Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 407: The Yorkshire Ripper Part I - John Carpenter's Fonzie

Episode Date: April 18, 2020

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I gotta see if I could get this together once before we even begin the episode. Okay Yorkshire Yorkshire Take a look at my motor boy Take a look at my motor bike. That's the sentence that you want to practice with take a look at my motor book I can do the most masculine thing with it. You can even imagine. Um, just drape my drape my winger wang over the seat Is that good? That's really good. Welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone. I am Ben Sterrett at the face of Marcus Parks Hello, uh, New York Times best-selling author Oh

We did it we beat Glenn Beck we did no one said it wasn't possible We said sure we can we beat his bulk by an ass We got Henry Zabrowski who you know this episode man, everyone's like why is he working on the Yorkshire accent? Is that right? You can't even say you're Is it Yorkshire? It's Yorkshire. It's Yorkshire. Yorkshire. I've got a bit of a salamander down in my pocket Isn't it enough? Isn't it nice? I ha I think it goes from Mrs. Doubtfire To chimney sweep and I have no control Anywhere in the middle of it. Did you take like the pedophiles

Linguistic class like what are these sentences you you're talking about a bicycle and then you have a salamander in your pocket I've got a salamander in my pocket. Do you want to pay a nickel to take a look at it? That's your penis, sir Yes There goes the crime there shites the crime Right so today's episode this will be a two-parter, but the first part of the Yorkshire Ripper No, not Yorkshire. It's Yorkshire. We won a war so I don't have to say this, right? Yorkshire the Yorkshire

Peter Sutcliffe aka the Yorkshire Ripper was an English serial killer who murdered 13 women and tried to murder seven others mostly in West Yorkshire between 1975 and 1980 but why do I imagine Yorkshire as a place where like like Hobbiton like it's got little houses and people make their own milk bread and People like they Tom that they told me culpits with a bit of a swagger I don't know what that means. You know, I mean like I assume it's a lot of people like fishing with with sticks with just pieces of rope on them Yeah, I sort of have a Disney fantasy when I hear Yorkshire. It's kind of nice I mean, I I'm not picturing like the best food, but I'm picturing a lot of it in the windows We've driven through it. Oh, yeah

This is very a pastoral it's a beautiful Area of England outside of the cities the cities themselves though Not quite so beautiful very urban a lot of grit very industrial cool. Is it just because they ran out of magic? Well for the most part Sutcliffe's victims were casual sex workers in true form It wasn't Intel Sutcliffe killed someone outside of the sex work business that the investigation went from a tabloid Screamer to one of the biggest manhunts England ever saw When you say casual sex worker, I just picture them all dressed like Best Buy employees Just like it's like it's a nice casual khaki with a nice not-too-flashy red top

We are seeing the rise of the casual sex worker with only fans. That's what it is Peter's method of murder was multiple hammer blows to the head Followed by the mutilation of the victim's body and while he was not quite as intricate as saucy Jack These mutilations were still brutal enough to earn the ripper label. I'd say that his MO was one of the more idiosyncratic Types of killing styles. Yeah of any serial killer that I have read about in the past where besides Richard Chase who is just he was just the fucking the Ralph Lauren of Putting a baby in a blender. He really came up with a dream. I don't know how he Steve Jobs that let's say

Are you describing Richard Chase as idiosyncratic? I would say that, right? Yeah, very particular Well, so this is kind of interesting so he would bludgeon them with a hammer. Yeah, just not exactly taking a scalpel No, but then he would do the dismemberment So is he sort of like is that sort of like a hodgepodge of different styles for lack of a better term of killing? Well, we'll definitely get in the Peter Sutcliffe's MO and exactly what it means Oh further linking him to Jack the Ripper was Sutcliffe's habit of arranging the dead bodies of his victims to achieve Maximum revulsion on the part of those who found them as if finding a dead body wasn't bad enough

He would put a New England Patriots jersey on them Kissel, sports are cancelled, right? You are need to talk about in very specific other terms. It's like he was wearing a Oh Comic-Con is also cancelled. Let's go fuck. We have nothing. Well, you know it's not cancelled. Dune Start reading soon. Yeah, it's like wearing a Harkonnen family shroud. Ah, of course a natural reference. We all get But despite the extra time spent with each body It still took UK police five years to catch Peter Sutcliffe

Owing mostly to the fact that the Yorkshire Ripper case is quite possibly the most bungled serial killer investigation of all time Worse than the hot dog squad much worse The hot dog squad at least like they were trying they did. Okay The hot dog squad wasn't as bad as all that hot dog squad Of course being the people who investigated the BTK mortar murder that was a failure of the people up top The Yorkshire Ripper case was a failure all the way through. They named themselves after ballpark condiments Truly was from the balls up. They really it's just In a fun stiff upper lip way. They cocked this up so hard. It might as well have been fucking

Meghan Markle Well speaking of names just to give you an idea speaking of names No, seriously, this is this absolutely works speaking of names just to give you an idea of what the investigators thought even of themselves One of the task forces assigned to stop the murders call themselves the special homicide investigation team which in acronym form was known as the shit squad they call themselves the shit squad and Because you know they're all their big thing was we ain't coming to work If we ain't gonna bucket of beans waiting for us

So they were chock full of beans, but not chock full of police training Hey Larry, we're gonna get out of this bank, man. I think the shit squad is coming I think they're gonna be on to us. We got to get out of here quick. Hey there cornstable Aresin Stop fought so audibly. Oh So he made his drink live a ball Forgot me cork No, your cork is attached to your foot. No, I'm talking about the coke that goes and soared me, but You made coke

New York Times best-selling author Technically all three of us Amazing Peter Sutcliffe himself was interviewed no less than nine times over the course of the five-year-long investigation But for a number of reasons we'll get into Sutcliffe was not taken seriously as a suspect until he was caught red-handed Partly that's because Peter Sutcliffe was nothing special at least at first glance as far as the police were concerned Sutcliffe just really loved paying for sex

But was otherwise just another unhappily married working-class Yorkshireman But we found out he felt the exact opposite about paying for sex. He actually didn't like it at all. Oh What do you mean? Oh, that's sad when people do things they don't like. No, that's why he did what he did kissle No, it's not a disappointing thing. It's not a little bit looked at a picture of Peter Sutcliffe I have seen him. Yes, his hair alone should have attracted any woman that he wanted Who who else could possibly turn themselves into an Italian Gumby? He looks like if Danny Zuko played a racerhead Women should have been flocking to him just to see how crispy the square was on the top of his head

I don't think it was about that. It was about the experience. He didn't want to feel like he was cheating on his wife He thought pain was better than having an affair. You're the opposite. You're completely incorrect. Yeah You're completely incorrect. You are. I don't know. The truth is opposite opposite. It is opposite What does that even mean anymore? What does that even mean anymore? Nowadays? I see people are eating pizza from the crust First which I thought was pretty crazy. That fucking idea started with Pizza Hut We've never been the same ever since you mean to tell we're gonna break some of the few precious worlds We have as a fucking society. Let's continue. I'm sorry. I agree But underneath Peter Sutcliffe was one of the most calculating savage murderers in UK history a

Pitiful beast who killed 13 women merely because it made him feel better about himself Or to put it in Yorkshire terms. He was a rete manky book Right. He just got us cancelled. I don't know where we're cancelled, but somewhere. We just got cancelled I tell you what you got it right now It's a hard time to go into the hospital for real for rete manky Burke I'm saying if you're showing signs for rete manky Burke right now Call the hotline 1-800-FUCK-TOE because it means you're your toes become horny. I don't know man

That explains all the holes in my shoes Perhaps what's most interesting about Peter Sutcliffe though is that his story from how he chose his victims to his method of murder To how he arranged the corpses suggests that maybe the infamous Jack the Ripper of 1888 Was just some guy There was no conspiracies. There's no fucking Freemasons. No, nothing It could be that Jack the Ripper was just some dude because Peter Sutcliffe was just some dude Or would you say that way the same way as the character that that fucking pig with the talking spider was just some pig

Yeah, exactly. It actually had a talking spider for a friend who could write that's charlotte's web Yeah, oh, yeah Well Jack the Ripper was you know my in my contention that he was three some guys And then would he it's with the worst thing is that I can't believe that the way that Peter Sutcliffe was eventually was discovered was actually just the cream of Just some guy, which is a very Very delicate Asian dish, but I can't believe that that's New York Times best-selling writing right there Honestly, these are evergreen episodes that will live forever, but isolation has ruined us Before we get into the story, let's acknowledge our sources

Today we have wicked beyond belief by Michael Bilton and somebody's husband somebody's son by Gordon Byrne For all the investigation and nasty details go to wicked beyond belief But if you're more interested in the story of Peter Sutcliffe himself and if you really want to go full Yorkshire Your best bet is somebody's husband somebody's son Also, if you really want to go full Yorkshire you rent a hotel room and you watch a sheep fuck your wife We fought a war for that So without further ado, let's get into the story of Peter Sutcliffe aka the Yorkshire Ripper so much cooler than Peter Sutcliffe Unfortunately, it's one of the one of the better pseudo killer nicknames in history. Yeah, absolutely

Peter was born to John and Kathleen Sutcliffe on June 2nd 1946 in Bingley which according to Yorkshire Manille who helps us out with a lot of research Bingley is a town within the city of Bradford They gave you a short sum up of Bradford in the industrial revolution Bradford was known as the wool capital of the world Absolutely fascinated I Did not know that So it's also the capital of the world for itchy thighs

Haha, that is a funny joke. You've told here at this pub Did you know that right over there? They used to make the wall? Wow You're my very best friend And I'm gonna have gay sex with you tonight That's a whole different kind of wool will be rubbing. It's our butthole Yes by the 70s though when Peter Sutcliffe was active Bradford was and still is known for urban grit combined with a strange countryside influence

Essentially from what I've been told Yorkshire where Bradford is located Yorkshire is pretty much the Texas of England Okay, from what I'm looking at I'm looking at Google pictures of West Yorkshire and it looks lovely It looks really lovely. You've got little castles there where I guess they're their king lives their Duke must live there And then I see another kind of castle looking thing and I gets their archduke must live there and this must be the prince's Quarters, which is actually right next to a Jersey Mike's Okay, now there really isn't a whole lot said about Peter Sutcliffe's mother in either of the books we read But Peter's siblings describe John Sutcliffe as a terrifying man with a hair-trigger temper who doled out beatings when he got drunk

But he was also known for being great at both football and cricket. He was a local actor He loved ballroom dancing and he was a soloist in the Bingley male voice choir While also having a healthy appetite for pig entrails He loved pig entrails. That's the main thing that this is the first thing that they said about his personality and somebody's husband Somebody's son where they're like it's a trotters Wiggles he eats the gumballs. He eats the crick-a-nicks and you're like, what's the crick-a-nicks and it's like that's the tip of the bowl Great eats all that. That's Great, that's the first thing you hear about somebody which I get because I'm a trade person

Yeah, but if it's the first thing you hear is that is my buddy Dave. He fucking loves organ meat Like cool cool. Yeah, the things you eat should never be a personality trait. Oh, no That's a little he also played them in the Yorkshire men's choir He also played that he did the creepy door noises for the Halloween albums each year How much do you owe FSU for their theater program again? I I think I still owe the money Now John was a healthy man all his life Until his son Peter was born when Peter was born John started wasting away Almost as if the new baby was feeding upon his life force in just eight months

John Sutcliffe went from almost 200 pounds to just a little over 130 and Peter wasn't John's first child either But if baby Peter was sucking away his father's life energy the infant wasn't showing it Peter I mean baby Peter was not sucking away his father's life energy That is not I mean the children do not have the ability to do that. Maybe his dad was more tired. I Some people there's some people that are super happy with raising their kids and those people are Gwyneth Paltrow with a team. Yeah, the team of people. She's like I love just having so much time at home with my kids right now And then she never sees no she's stretching her vagina in the background with her fucking You know with some guys she met from Thailand

She's wearing a face mask and the kids are being watched by a good group of women from Guatemala. Oh, very possible very possible Well, Peter was always a weak and weedy child with baffling habits Always blankly scooting around the house on his ass with one leg sticking out front and the other dragon behind He's playing semi truck Look how he was on my balls when I do my friction splits. You're draining my life force Peter Was so weak that his father bought him a pair of reinforced leather boots So Peter could walk without breaking his own ankles. I had to go to the children's kink store And when Peter did walk he'd usually do it while clutching his mother's skirt

I don't like standing up. I like my new wrinkles being on the ground I don't like going to school and I don't like Going to keep me cool Oh look me mommy Just cut to his father putting his own name on a bullet put it in One day one day little bullet Well because of this weakness when Peter was eventually sent to school He was mercilessly mocked for his skinny underdeveloped legs. Me mom says it's me magic shoes

But Peter didn't react to the mocking at all and was so passive that none of his teachers Nor any of his priests could put a face to the name After Peter Sutcliffe was arrested as the Yorkshire Ripper. I guess if you're going to be a serial killer It's not a bad trait to not be remembered at all. It's not like he was trying to be the prime minister or whatever They have in Yorkshire, but I mean if you're going to be a serial killer Being being invisible ain't that bad? It ain't yeah Although you might think that Peter would be a gigantic disappointment to his footballer father John actually believed his son to be extremely bright

Despite Peter's grades being only average This belief actually showed John's intelligence because John reasoned that Peter must be bright Because he spent all his time in the library. Yeah, she was gonna be reading all day He's reading that's what nerds know. He's got skinny likes. There's gotta go there with his books and he hangs out with his books But you can do a lot of things in the library. Yeah, that's the thing I'm wondering like was he just taking two wooden blocks and jamming them up to his ears. You're like, it's like headphones It's like no, no, just sitting there and staring in the distance. That's all he would do You just went to the library so we wouldn't have to go outside. I don't like going outside

I like the pleasure of the books, but I don't like reading them. I like Look Ned and I don't like my library record because I don't love things. It is square And according to his sister sometimes he just sit in the kitchen and just stare off into space for hours Without moving or getting restless. I Mean, it's not easy draining your father's life force. You have to focus on doing it You just think that he would be getting bigger and stronger each month He went draining a life force out of his father, but it was just he was just wasting all that energy God knows what he was doing. Yeah, well at home his particular fortress of solitude was the bathroom

Where he'd shut himself away for hours on end, but he wasn't doing what most boys do when they lock themselves in the bathroom all afternoon Oh, yeah, writing my manifesto. I'm gonna take over the school See his brother Mick got curious as to what Peter was doing in the bathroom day and night Oh, tell me he put a camera in there. That'll be great. That's a real curious brother He'd secretly watch him through the window Who is crazy here? Who is crazy all Peter's office at this point? All Peter's doing is hanging out in the library to not get bullied and trying to go to the bathroom to avoid his family And his brother is peeping like it's the movie porkies. I

Just I don't want to know. I don't know Jackie lived with me for a year Can you mad like this like recently the idea of do that like You just see pants cool around her ankles and then just a pounds of bush I'm sorry Jackie. I'm just I I just want to I just want to laugh Well, surprisingly Peter was doing nothing more sinister than spending hours meticulously shaping his own hair cutting the strands Millimeters at a time this little kid was born with a full-on

Mr. Cotter like pile of Of of droops that is the only way I can really put his hair cut he came out looking like he had stuck his finger in a fucking Outlet his hair stood straight up and he has a kid he ever understood like this is my thing And so he clip it and clip it and clip it and clip it excessively to it became this very strange shape If you look at it, if you look up Peter Sutcliffe, I think that's to me You know you see him looking like a Greek landlord vampire Yeah, honestly immediately and he was like that since he was a kid He's been walking around like that since he was fucking nine years old. He's got big-haired confidence. Mm-hmm not 15

Peter began his first of many English blue-collar jobs when he gained employment as an apprentice fitter at an engineering works in Bingley All anyone at the job remembered though was that Peter was just some weird dickhead Who usually wore the look of a frightened animal? Wait a second? Is this some kind of pipe? Is that a pipe that you got there? I don't like the shape I don't like the shape What is that? Is that a- It's a- a shovel. Oh!

I don't like it I don't like the shape of it and I don't like- I don't like anything. I don't like water either. I'm- Oh, oh, oh, oh, are you ghost? He's like Jason Voorhees and I am not gonna say it here and come to the defense of Peter Sutcliffe Um, but you're about to now. What I'm saying is all so far everyone's like he wasn't noticeable What do you want him to- it's a pipe fitting job Do you want him to show up with a little twirly hat on and just be like hey guys time to make the jokes? It's like no do your freaking job

You're gonna find out why he just didn't exactly fit in. Yeah. All right But by 18 Peter began to come out of a shell when he discovered what should have been his first and only penis replacement Peter What? Peter became obsessed with motorbikes and cars and he doled on to this obsession for the rest of his life He's one of those guys that somehow even though he doesn't make any money He's always got like a cool car like a quote-unquote cool car. He's got like a step-dead car It's kind of got like my car where women don't notice you

But other ugly dudes give you winks and like give you high fives and thumbs up as you drive along the street as you listen to Howard Stern just like going 75 miles per hour in a 30 Where he is he is like that where I'm certain that if death leopard Could have gotten to him and if I think that maybe he would have found a whole new a whole new lease on life Yeah, okay. So he's a cool guy. He's cool. He's a cool step dad. He's got the trans am nude as he gets older He reminds me very much of Buck and I'm here to fuck Kill Bell. Yeah

So in 1964 Peter briefly moved out of the industrial sector and got hired at Bingley Cemetery as a grave digger So fast immediately into a serial killer profession. Yeah, yeah Now possessing just the slightest bit of confidence Peter for the first time made a strong impression on the people around him Although the impression was almost universally bad One co-worker named Billy Moore recalled one day early in Peter's tenure at the graveyard Peter was digging a grave near a wall the cemetery shared with a local grammar school. Hmm. That's a Horrifying place for a school. That's how England is man. I went to a lot of cemeteries out in England

There's they just plop them down in the middle of fucking any old place always remember kids You're gonna work until you end up in one of these I Would be hard to focus on the studies when you realize it's all for nothing. Yes, you're just dead Now I think Peter was either replacing one body with another are stacking coffins in the same plot But it's hard to tell from the transcription of Billy Moore's account because Yorkshire slang is fucking impossible to decipher Let me just give you an example. Okay of Yorkshire slang. All right. I'll try to figure it out a But I got me were wrong about where's chuddy faffing with some push on so I says just say I'm up and skip down

In a pub for a snake lifter, but he just lets a catty guffin puts wood Oh, so all gop is cackin feddle the gayness cafe. I Don't need any decaf I'll just take a regular coffee. No, I have no idea what that was. I you know what though if you have about seven Guinness's You automatically understand what that is. That's what Kissel and I sounded like in Dublin That's very true But at any rate Billy Moore said that Peter was trying to find the coffin lid already in the grave with his shovel It involves a lot of that noise

But he discovered that the top of the coffin had fallen in Billy heard a yelp from across the graveyard and ran to find Peter standing there with the skull on his spade Shaking look at this crazy meatball. I found It's art when Shakespeare does it in the park, but all of a sudden I'm a grave robber who has like a skull in my hand Not an actor. I think he could have been a thespian From what Billy said though, nobody really knew for sure what Peter was ever thinking. They just knew they didn't like him He said Peter's face almost never dropped a sneer of superiority He always had this fucking little half-smile that infuriated everyone. Yeah, I dig graves. I also dig motorbikes

Yeah, you're a pretty cool guy, huh? That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's what I saw. Yeah, I'm pretty good boy Yeah, yeah, you know they used to make a lot of wool around here No, really. Yeah, right here right here. Yeah, they made like a lot of wool a lot of wool You know where that comes from that is all I think I do know where that comes Comes from sheep sheep Yeah, yep pretty cool guy really all We're best friends now Well Peter was also disliked because of his modesty see most grave diggers

They just pissed right on the headstones But the dainty Peter Sutcliffe would always run off to the bushes when he needed to relieve because that's very polite to do Because why are they pissing on the headstones? They're literally like there you go stinking. He's better than us They can ease over some corner king of society. We pissed right here with it with the dead are interned It just piss all over these very expensive tubes out just all over the bodies just laughing at each other So I'm starting to think that maybe the problem is the society that's here that he's around He wasn't desecrating the tombstones, so they're like he's a little strange. What are you talking about? I will say they didn't go on to kill 13

prostitutes That's true. That's true. That's good point But the only person who was friendly with Peter was old Eddie Bishop But that ended after Peter whacked him on the head with a mallet as Eddie was boarden up the coffin And it's funny that same sort of thing also happened with John Wayne Gacy One day he John Wayne Gacy was with one of his employees in his garage and just hit him in the fucking head with a hammer So this was super impulsive very impulsive. He's just and then he laughed it off like it was a joke He did this like bit where he was like

What if I hit you on the head with one of these and then he's just like well Peter stop it It's an exam and then he says like what and then just hit him a little too hard. Yeah for it to be a joke Yeah, I feel you all right. Yeah, and then he had this fucking awful laugh And the problem is that I can't go into Israel keys territory, but he definitely had like one of those And he loved he loved to laugh he loved to laugh he did oh they said it was high-pitched and he would only laugh through his nose Oh my goodness like the nasa next man. Yeah But this wasn't Peter's only job in the death industry. He split his time between the graveyard and the local morgue

Where he'd boost loot off bodies and offer the jewelry to his sister And when she recalled that the thought of where the jewelry came from he'd give that same annoying nasal laugh You don't like Because that's what they used to talk about he used to say being like all these all these fucking idiots going to the store getting their fucking jewelry Well, go right here. It's it's a fucking easiest job in the world They're right there. They didn't leave a jewelry on the fat fucking dead fingers And he's like right saying this to his friends very casually getting again just how how how fucking lucky he was that he had this endless supply of free jewelry and

You know mostly they they shook it off with the loft because it was a working-class society So, I mean against I think people do they they would take things with a gallows Sense of humor. I mean the only other conversation the only other topic of conversation as well So you're telling me this guy's coming in here with some new bling and you got it off a corpse Yeah, I'm here to hear the story. I want to listen to that tale because if I hear about whoa one more fucking time That is what you that is why you are true You are a bar patron to your soul where your job is to collect all of these various stories That's how you explain this to whatever it is that your future wife

When you have to explain why you're drinking every night, which I do all time. I say I'm a I'm an anthropologist I just collect stories Now Peter kept both jobs until 1967 But he was not fired for stealing jewelry off corpses or for attacking his fellow workers instead He was thrown off the job because it couldn't show up on time But he said you know me that that's his whole thing He's like almost one of those guys that just doesn't show up on time and he acted like that was like normal But that was like a thing that it did some people just are and in Los Angeles you see it a lot

But I don't see it a lot in working-class England in his defense. It was corpses that he dealt with Where are they going? Yeah, what are we doing here? You got to meet up with the other gravediggers. What am I doing? I'm waiting around for 30 minutes for Peter. The first 30 minutes is just them taking dumps on tombstones He's expected to do that alone I don't hold another subculture I don't need to know about if you're shitting in graves is a two-man job because you have to have a lookout for these fucking Narks you're gonna explain that somebody's putting a couple of dookies in the fishbowl

I think it's a three-man job because you do need someone to be like that was a good plop Good pop and then that's always the guy who's holding your hands Your toes dug into the side soil where the wall of the grave and he's holding your hand So you could really get the shit down in there and pop out. Why do you guys have to hold somebody's hands? Well, we lost Steve three years ago He was taking a massive liquid shit in the grave. He fell in and we never got him back Now since this was 1967 in the UK free love was definitely on the table for someone who was even moderately good-looking I don't know why that's so disgusting the idea of UK free love just does not like I don't think of hate and Ashbury

I don't think of like roses or petals in your hair. They were hip man. You've seen Austin Powers. Come on Yeah, yeah, some of their their teeth look like parallelograms and some of them smelled like old sacks of beans But they have the same spirit and we came from them. So yeah, that's true and by 1960s British standards like Peter Sutcliffe was Moderately good-looking. He's fine One of the one of his the people that he injured One of his attempted victims said a thing about Peter Sutcliffe where it's like he's got them big rooms Come here eyes. He's handsome and he knows it and then you look at him and you're like Really?

Yeah, well, it's cuz also I remembered the one story that he had is that he had a leather jacket that he wouldn't take off Yeah, that no matter what the temperature was he had this leather jacket, which everyone said made him look like that like they're like He's a rather he's a regular old Bobby Driscoll. I don't I don't know that reference Oh, well, then I here's another one. He's a regular old root, but don't have it I Don't understand Well Peter was good friends with a guy named Keith Sugden Okay, and Peter practically lived at the apartment shared by Keith and his girlfriend

One day though Keith said a girl who lived in the building threw herself across their breakfast table Naked and offered herself as Peter's breakfast 1967 UK free love right there. That is disgusted Well, what do you mean? What's he supposed to get a full English? What do you do? I know that it cheesy-ass strip business man's strip clubs. They'll do the sushi Mm-hmm, but what are you gonna do fucking beans and toast on the bitches nipples? What are you going to do? What are you eating? European food off of a woman on a table is so disgusting sounding an offer for sex Ben

I didn't mean oh she didn't want it was I She wants to have sex with him she wanted it no breakfast as in like offer yourself is like Jaina is yes. Yeah, no. Yeah, you fucking moron Isn't he still hungry for breakfast She's not fucking like putting the tomato in her fucking asshole She put herself on the table that's where food goes No, no, no, it was it was sex. It was sex, but Peter ain't gonna make you not hungry

But Peter instead of taking her up on the offer or even just politely declining He said nothing and only stared at the girl with disgust and something that looked a hell of a lot like hatred Cuz her butt cheeks is in the beans. You would you are you have become the prude. I would love A couple of bunches cover this is strange you becoming you become quite prudish We're at let's just say we're at a beautiful steak house We're ready We're like oh can't wait to eat steak and all of a sudden a waitress comes and flails herself on the table and says Oh, I'm the food now. It's like no, you're not well. I know that I get food

I know eventually I will receive food if I wasn't married. I would be like Coming as a part of the thing or is this extra? I don't know breakfast is a very important meal. That's all I'm saying Now this girl had possibly tapped into what can be described as an almost Pathological shyness and of course there's nothing wrong with being shy But when Peter shyness was confronted he responded with an inner rage that would eventually manifest as something terrible Now he could always say hi to a girl But as soon as the conversation progressed past that Peter would turn silent and his face would go red and

Eventually the girl would just walk away Despite this though Peter Sutcliffe still peacocked his appearance. Yeah, he did He wears some Outfits yeah, it is capital O outfits with this man every day I know for a fact I've lost women because I talked So maybe this is a good technique. Just say hello and shut the fuck up. You just shut up You let them shut up. It's the idea right let them speak you pepper a couple of questions They speak his thing was I think came from a lack of a understanding of women that slowly but

Surely turn into hatred of women very very fast because for some reason he could not bridge the gap He would attach himself. I think a lot of people know this I might like I I've seen this type of relationship a lot in my life of You know like you got a single dude guy that has attached himself to another couple Where he's sort of living vicariously through this couple. He's kind of I'm not gonna say it's not like it's not full cuck Right, it's not that type of thing but he's kind of living vicariously through this other couple and does not understand how to do it himself and Begins also view anything else besides some weird

Some idea of what a this a normal relationship supposed to look at mixed with now the burgeoning free love scene Which he cannot handle right so instead of him being able to figure out what is it about me? That's bringing out these feelings. Why why why am I could he is? reverting completely into total I call it like a Frankenstein rage I Mean mostly because of the hair so there's a difference between being quiet and listening. He was not listening No, no, I don't know quiet probably trying to figure out how to how to talk Yeah, well concerning his outfits Peter Sutcliffe loved black suits with off-white Drain pipe pants paired with Cuban heel boots and

Immaculately styled hair. Oh, yeah, I can't forget that hair man. That thing is dripping Product, but he also wouldn't wash though. So he would wreak his pee himself He was a very dirty man But his clothes were immaculate for some reason and it's wild those big old pants big big big old pants Kind of a kind of a man of the times though, right? So what a man of the times but he was like one of those guys that like those dudes that don't wash their asshole because they think it's gay Mm-hmm. Got you. I don't know any of those dudes, but yeah My favorite moments of the day

Yeah, yeah, it's like me saying hello to myself. I use lupus as well. It's quite pleasant It is it is a it is wow I didn't think about that, but it really is saying hello to yourself first thing in the morning It is and then but that's why you but you have to have a separate luffa New York Times best-selling authors talk about wiping their assholes with luffas Yeah, cuz sometimes there's little ornaments left on the luffa that you want to spread to the rest of your hairs interesting But just because Peter Sutcliffe's hair was immaculately styled does not mean that it looked good

One acquaintance who found Peter to be an all-around unsettling person said that his hair looked Strangely square shaped like a dense black hedge To make him even more unsettling and this also kind of goes into his silent act Peter would constantly tongue the eighth inch wide gap in his front teeth and His bulbous bloodshot near black eyes would constantly dart around the room looking at everything except your face That became a very To a point where it almost helped catch him it became it's such a part of who he is that it's it's so

Specific where his eyes would just dart around because it seems like in a way He could not fucking tell you a straight fact if you if you wanted to like he was such like kind of like a pathological liar Mixed with like constantly hiding his true self at all times never being able to be real to be able to connect It seems like he might be on the spectrum. He may have some kind of I mean cuz he's I don't know. I think he's just if you mean in spectrum of assholes Peter also kept an immaculately styled beard Often trimming the soul patch area and his chin into two

Triangles that made it look like he was wearing a couple of hairy vaginas touching bottom tip to bottom tip on his face at all times The way I would use the one out the word I would use for his facial hair was ambitious Because it showed a man of a certain discretion that he felt that he needed to create a ravine in his flavor safer But I guess would hold old beer. I guess Now Peter wasn't necessarily an outcast Surprisingly, but he did do the type of shit that gave people pause One night he was at the pub wasted lost in a weird trance when suddenly he grabbed a glass and smashed it on the table Sending shards of glass flying across the fucking room. No need to do that

Yeah, so in true British form someone walked over and poured a pint on his head It's the general British action for you're being a dickhead sure But Peter didn't react in any way whatsoever Instead he most likely went over to the jukebox and put on the spider in the fly by the Rolling Stones Which he sometimes played Several times in a row. He was one of those guys I don't guys had those in college a friend that would like do something really outlandish and stupid to get attention Right, then act like he didn't do anything, right?

So then he walks over and he basically does the the fucking from dirty work where he's like street fat in Man, and then you would just go and put it on the fucking jukebox and then just dance alone Right jukebox listening to his favorite song over and over and over again Which I guess you just don't get punched for at this point when they when you grow up with somebody Kind of seems like a Fonzie character in happy days if the score was by John Carpenter There's something like I you I can see the black jacket. Yeah, I can see that he's trying He's trying to do he's trying to be the guy. Yeah smash Yeah, but the thing is that he's not the guy no no the loser

No, because when you are desperately searching to be the guy you eventually I think that's the frustration of it can sometimes allow A bad shit to get in there. Yes. Yes. This is what happens when a serial killer tries to be the guy Yeah, it's just not working the spotter in the flies. It's a fine Rolling Stones song. It's not one of the best It's no start me up. I mean, it's the B side to satisfaction. It's okay, but it is not the problem here Marcus Now, although Peter was of course the worst of the sucklifts. He wasn't the only one in the family with a violent streak Put it on my tombstone This brother mech was arrested for assault robbery and grievous bodily harm Damn grievous bodily harm. It's a UK criminal code that essentially translates out to

Beating the fuck out of somebody as hard as you possibly can It's the closest you can get to beating someone up without killing them. Cool But it happens so much in England that they have a Classification for it assault is pretty much getting into a fight grievous bodily harm is beating someone with the intent to almost kill them It's like what the little brother did in a Christmas story when he finally got that fucking asshole Although they did do bad to the redheaded people my people they did make us to be bullies Well, even though the redhead deserved it when you are mean and have braces. That's what you get. You get a smash in the face Now while Peter was quote the one who'd half choke on a boiled sweet watching his father perform, Oklahoma in quote

Oh, you better not call me that again Nick was a big robust Hard lad and he was taller than Peter despite being younger and the contrast and masculinity Was certainly not lost on Peter Sutcliffe. He became kind of focused on Mick Mick became his the view of what these fucking these super uber heterosexual man is Okay, so I think in a way kind of like with Richard Ramirez had he had a family member that he kind of formulated of the picture of masculinity The young boy, right? This is how you're supposed to be. She was to take no shit You know, it's like slap people in the face and and you know like be the guy, right, right?

And not all serial killers are all about masculinity, but Peter Sutcliffe was definitely about masculinity. Okay But it was Peter's sister Anne who had what might have been more of an influence on Peter Sutcliffe as a killer Although that influence was undoubtedly indirect See in 1966 and married a man named Trevor Stuckey and moved to a town called Morkham Yes, Morkham We have some of the best goop We have I tell you what I'm really sad. We moved to Morkham from Lescom

Yeah, yeah, I'm drowning in it. I am drowning. New York times. Best selling authors there Morkham You get it if you think about semen What was important about this concerning Peter was that Morkham was the home of a low-rent Madam Tussauds style wax museum Called Louie Tussauds wax works. He named him after his fucking little person cousin Little Louie, he likes wax too This doesn't seem to be made of wax. Is this a is this a cum Brad Pitt? You know what they say more come mo mo come mo problems Yeah, and Louie Tussauds was known until it's closing in 2014. Oh as the world's worst wax work

I would honestly I kind of wish I could have gone. I wish I could have gone, too Who did he have like what were the celebs of the time? I mean, that's the things that they did have I mean up until 2014 I you can check out online the way it looked like all the like they had Prince Harry They had all the big British celebrities. I remember they had Billy that was like their big one was they got the new Billy Connally in Okay, all right, that's stars But as Gordon Byrne put it all the heads were much too large for the bodies Making them look as if they had an unpleasant stunting disease. They really do. I'm looking at these right now

Gordon Ramsay looks like he's on crystal fucking meth. This is the scariest wax museum I have ever seen they oh my god. They made it off Hitler black Straight up. He's like tan No, that's a thing they made Prince William ugly and they made Mr. Bean handsome. I'm not saying they're wrong Whoever back in the 60s the owner soon found that what got the public in the door was not Joseph Stalin in a ladies coat or Princess Margaret in a shitty wig both of which were exhibits at the fucking wax museum I would have loved to take edibles and walk around this wax museum I love it. Dude tonight take some edibles with take some edibles wait until they kick in and then look up Louis two soads wax

You're really gonna love this some of these are very interesting They got they get the Guardian did a whole thing on the world's wax museum and pictures. They follow my god Well what they found was what got the public in the door was blood and guts cool Louis two soads had a chamber of horrors displaying Britain's most famous murderers and chicken wire cages Killers like dr. Crippen hanged for dismembering his wife or Reginald Christie the Halifax necrophile Yeah, you fucking puts a bookmark in a corpse and I mean his fucking dick. That's crazy

But even though there were plenty of graphic scenes like murder in the bath Jack the Ripper and my favorite wax museum horror piece The blood hook that's classic when it comes to wax museum. What's the blood? What is the blood hook? The blood hook is either a woman or a man can be either one. I've seen both Just with a hook through their torso and they're hanging from the ceiling on a big fucking hook Yeah, most chamber of horrors and wax museums have them. Yeah, I've seen good ones. I've seen bad ones That's why you had those hooks for the fucking wedding pictures, which I haven't even seen Marcus I haven't seen the wedding pictures yet. I'm sending out the wedding pictures next week. Fuck. Yeah. All right Now I've said it now. I've got to do it now. You know, it's not like you don't have a little bit more time anyway

I have it's the same amount. I had the exact same amount of time as I did before okay Well, what attractive Peter Sutcliffe the most to Louis II soads was the museum of anatomy Over the years Sutcliffe would return to the two small dusty rooms tucked into the back of Louis II soads Again and again where the proprietors displayed an exhibition of Victorian wax works Meant to educate the lower classes on the dangers of brazen iniquity I mean, I don't think the lower classes need any sort of training on STD They're the ones who have them in your tire at the time Well at the time because British every everywhere you go is as fucking school in British

And everything has to be some kind of proper set of etiquette and everything all these fucking rules So they created their validation of being like it's educating them. That's why we can do all of these depictions of tits and Vaginas and guts and all that stuff in real life. They were just giving the people exactly what they wanted, right? All right, right, right. Well these wax works similar to what can now be found at the house of wax bar and sought a Brooklyn Alamo The draft house. Yes, it's a lot like that a little shocking not gonna lie when you walk in there You're like, I'm surprised like I'll have the chicken fingers and then you look up and you're like there's a fetus coming out of that Woman's fake vagina Makes me hungry very bizarre

Well in the first room at Louis II soads the different stages of pregnancy were shown through a series of nine Headless legless female torso's got to heads in the legs fucking honestly. You're so distracting from I like just the torso They really were just what? This is just it's made to fuck up the human brain kind of is yeah But what truly drew Peter Sutcliffe's attention was the second room in there Peter found dozens of models of sexual organs in various stages of venereal disease Puss-ridden vaginas and penises and gray clouds of pubic hair appearing as so much of yesterday's half-eaten sausage

I Can see you getting erect as you write that sentence But I tell you what you bake those up you bake those into a fine cake, right? You have a puss-ridden vagina Uh-huh puss though a nice coconut cream You've got the vaginomy with a nice like some kind of what are those? You know, it's like a velvet cake a red velvet cake. Oh, well now that is that is very tasty. Yeah, that's good The diseased scrotums were shown in cross-section and one particularly graphic display Showed the hand of a doctor reaching into an oozing vagina to grab a fetus covered in green scabs and

Running sores and then they had a thought bubble on the doctor and it said another day another dollar dollar I actually it was very interesting what an interesting because in the name of I'll never forget the name of that display the birth of baron trump I Love that beautiful beautiful. It's like the birth of Jesus Christ himself Well speaking of Jesus at the center of the display was a bust of a woman inspired by pictures of the Virgin Mary Suckling the baby Jesus But in this case the bust nipples were discolored and encrusted with scabs and the breast was covered in burning sores and hives

It sounds like she wasn't a virgin Mary. I don't know what happened there I didn't know way to depict the Virgin Mary that ain't right now Peter Sutcliffe paid close attention to these displays And when he later contracted VD multiple times from various ladies of the night, okay? Did he show up with a fucking monocle? What do you mean? Like how was he taking all of this in? Yeah, yeah, that won't that gonna do that wasn't gonna do that one. Yeah, it's just you use it as homework Yeah, just the janitor here. Oh, mr. Suckliffe. I gotta turn the lights off once again time for you to go home He'd go again and again and again and again. He loved it there. It was his favorite place on earth. Hey, buddy

How about you go out? Give me them up. Yeah, you want to be the janitor here? You just got fired. Oh, I just got all right, but The thing was is that when Peter started contracting VD. It seemed like he felt almost proud for knowing Exactly what he'd contracted one time. He called up his friend Keith Sugden He hadn't talked to Keith in two years Mm-hmm, but he wanted to specifically show Keith his diseased penis because Peter's bell end had gone all white and flaky That's what I'm saying. He's he's the John Carpenter Fonsi. He's like look how much pussy. I'm getting it. Look at all go Yeah, look at that. I'm making my own palma John Ain't that fun. Ain't that nice

Yeah, I guess it is good that he realized that he had a venereal disease Yeah, and Sugden just said like you need to go to the hospital. Yeah, yeah But surprisingly Peter Sutcliffe's obsession with waxworks depicting the worst of Victorian VD Did not prevent him from eventually finding a wife. No technically. That's our fan base Yes, I mean there is a fantastic book called the sick rose if you guys want to see some really cool like Victorian Like medical drawings that really goes into VD like really fucking deep Yeah, if you guys want to see some really cool stuff, and then you guys could maybe come over to my place On the podcast, but I don't know if I want to go into your home

Because you seem to be you said you're not you haven't gone to the store for two weeks, but you have all this fresh parmesan This reminds me when Marcus and I went to the fucking the was that in medical? What was the museum we went to in Edinburgh? Uh the museum we went with Neil Neil took us. I think it's the Museum of Medical Oddities or not nothing It was much Classier than the mother let me look it up It was super classy But if you guys want to check out a cool book right now the sick rose disease in the art of medical illustration by Barnett Richard is a wonderful thing to Read oh, yes, we went to the

Surgeons Hall Museum Surgeons where we went and it was just jars and jars and jars and jars are fucked up pussies You know I love it if I guess that you really loved it. I got sick Does it smell like formaldehyde like the Mutter Museum because I went in there hungover after our show in Philly and that is it No, it doesn't smell like formaldehyde. Okay afterwards. I went out had a meat pie with Neil. It was great Yeah, guys, my mom said I could have four friends over tonight, but I told her that oh, I don't know I have to and I'll have to make some hard decisions because I so many people want to come Marcus We're gonna go home and just watch them just normal comedies We're gonna watch the don't involve penis is falling apart with disease. All right, buddy. It's been great though. Thanks for the education

Thank you for the edutainment. Oh, yeah, didn't have a lot of friends. There's not a lot of people in Texas I'm like 28 million But anyway Peter Sutcliffe got married. Oh, he did. Well, he found a wife. Yes Okay, although Sonya Zerma was not by anyone's definition a prize catch. Oh, I saw pictures of her I actually thought she was surprisingly cute from her description cute. Yes, but with a horrible personality He's riddled with VD shy to the point of haughtiness and Eternally unamused by the common rabble Sonya responded to Peter Sutcliffe's shitty attitude toward life almost immediately and the short lumpy Afro Czechoslovakian fell in love. That's what it takes

You have your shittiness has to align with the other person shittiness So he met him the way it seemed to really go down is that he had one of his standard like they met up He silently stared at the table and she just sat next to him and then afterwards because she was just supposed to like She went with like a girlfriend of a friend of his to like hook them up together And they're all like well, this was a fucking disaster and then afterwards. She's like, I think I like him I mean, you know, if you can get your VD to line up with another person's VD, then you lock and then you're married forever Well from what the rest of the Sutcliffe family said Sonya would do nothing all day But literally twiddle her thumbs in silence and when she finally did speak she did so in a high strong whisper

That was usually an order to get her a cup of tea. I Can't name the person that I know that does this There is a there is a type of person that I just can't stand. It's it could maybe it's cuz I'm so loud Yeah, how my family is loud and so when people do the thing where they go like Like they are specifically like low-talking in a way that seems to be a comment on How loud I am, you know, maybe it's one of those strange ironies were to cut Above the loud Italian Zabrowski family, you actually have to go underneath to penetrate the ear No, we don't trust those people those people are telling their whispering fucking secrets

When Peter's sister Maureen had a baby Sonya and Peter paid a visit and while Peter was reportedly good enough with the infant He was a pretty standard uncle Sonya dropped it to the ground the moment the baby started crying touchdown Well, so she was not a mother. No, she was definitely not a mother But you at the very least like plenty of people who aren't parents don't instinctively drop a baby the moment it starts crying I mean, no, I mean sometimes you toss it. I think you well, you can't shake And from what Mick Sutcliffe said Sonya quote looked like a fucking horse But that seems to be a brother thing That seems to be a brother because the brother because Mick used to fucking just pick at Peter

I don't like this big guy so far. He's just got a quiet girlfriend He's a quiet guy who has a strange fascination with VD including his own But for the most part, it's just it seems like these are it seems like this is the match for him Well, it's gonna blossom and I think that's very similar. We talk. Well, I get a lot of Brutus vibes from from Sutcliffe so the wife The in his arrangement creating the veneer of a normal family man will allow the other side of him Develop further like in a strange way. There's something about creating this kind of an umbrella of

Quote-quote looks like look, I'm normal. I got a wife. I do a machine I would never be able to do all these other things and his right brother was looking to destroy whatever it is that he had Because he didn't want him to feel good about a single thing that happened to him and also Peter Sutcliffe then antagonistically chose Sonya because everybody was so down on her and talking about how she was gross and mean and Stuck up and bad and they didn't like hanging out with her and he's just like well I double like a because right he is an antagonistic personality as well So just a very immature version of love and just like an immature version of like what what he thought reality should be

Oh, yeah, and she and she didn't even really seem to like him that much But Sonya also never really liked anyone except her sister Because when Peter told a story, you know the way he told it He was one of those guys that like he can't stop laughing at his own jokes like he cracks himself up so much That he just never stops laughing. He would turn a five-minute story into a 20-minute ordeal Yeah, you're trying to get a bit. Wait, you gotta hear this before you go. Yeah, buddy. Listen. I'm thinking about how you're gonna be what I say in this thing What happened with Cinderella finally got to the ball Oh

What happened when Cinderella you remember? Yeah, she went to the ball and she's on she went to the ball What happened when Cinderella Finally got to the ball. She saw the prince, but then it turned to be me. No listen I didn't love it. She gagged That would take 20 minutes Worth it. Actually pretty good punchline overall pretty good punchline overall better than the world conversation We were having earlier, but the only thing that would make him stop was a scold and a glare from Sonya She hated it. It's love. I guess that's the beats a yin and yang, baby

Then it was discovered in 1972 that Sonya was also schizophrenic in addition to being a wildly unpleasant person But this should kind of came out of nowhere Yeah, like they kind of had this kind of wishy-washy thing and she was me She was very paranoid and distrustful of people to begin with but then Her something clicked inside of her which I guess it does emerge quite a bit in your mid 20s. Yeah Mm-hmm. She started bursting into violent fits of rage convinced that she was the second coming of Christ complete with Stigmata, really? Yeah, huh when Peter would visit her in the hospital She thought he was an airplane and would screech shrill demands for quote a bigger teddy bear

Wait, she thought he was an airplane totally fucking lost him. I went off went way off the deep end Is that even normal? She thought he was a fucking airplane. What did he walk in with it? Did he make an airplane noise when he walked in? He didn't help because when he saw her at the hospital, he'd go time to open up the hangar It's ridiculous But strangely Peter stuck by Sonya every step of the way showing Extraordinary patients in care although this was probably as Henry said him laying the groundwork for a quote-unquote Normal life

Okay, but even though it seems like Sonya was not the type of woman who could hook two men at once She still stepped out on Peter in 1969. I go and I found myself a bus to fuck That is just another man That year Mick saw Sonya riding around in a sports car with a mysterious Italian man, and of course Mick mercilessly made fun of his brother for it. He's a chef His name is Boyardee Here's what he is a brilliant man in his mustache and tickles me down the stairs Wow, I feel like if I was gonna be a fake name I would Ricardo Marbaro

That's actually pretty good, I like that yeah, it's kind of cool What about it? Yeah, what about like Ricardo Marbaro, Jr. I like that you come from a long family I don't like my dad. I don't like my dad Aren't you a junior Thomas Henry Thomas? I am Henry Thomas the Browsky, Jr. Yes Well since Sonya was having her own affair Peter decided to respond in kind Although as we know he did not have the social skills necessary to just go pick up a woman in the bar Mm-hmm. Oh, I see where this is going. Yep instead Sutcliffe decided to visit the girl Soliciting on LUM in Manningham lanes

Which was the popular spot in Bradford when it came to a paid sexual encounter Now if you want to go down and find one of the largest sex workers in all of Yorkshire, you're gonna want to check out LUM Yeah, it's a street that sounds like Come on down to LUM. He's only one. One woman left. And ask me to call me LUM woman I love you LUM woman. And I'm five hundred pounds, please Four pounds, four hundred pounds a tug and suck That's great. I love all the ladies at LUM. They've got great breasts, butts and flam Unfortunately though this visit would have dire consequences

And they showed if shit was just legal if sex work was legal. I think that this is the way to go about it I don't know how you could navigate this within your own relationship parameters But it's actually better if you know, I mean, this is bad to say this But if you're gonna step outside it'd be better to have it with a professional So all of a sudden that person doesn't have a bunch of evidence that you're cheating on them destroy your whole life Did you feel the psychic vice grip on your testicles as you were saying that sentence from your wife? I'm Happily married Say it five times in the mirror

I'm incredibly happily married and my balls are empty. Thanks to my beautiful wife All right, we don't need to know about all that One night Peter drove to Manningham Lane and picked up a woman after confirming what business she was about Oh, so you're not in the shrimp sales, huh? I thought this might have been a shrimp exchange. Never mind But as Peter said he couldn't do it after realizing quote what a course and vulgar person she was All right, so he also has is this the beginning of seeing them as lesser and seeing them as like oh, yeah Like okay, he's going down that he's going kind of Gary Ridgway. He is in my mind Incredibly

Tracted to sex workers in general. Yeah, and what you were saying before where it's like he is Sexually engaged which is a which is a function of this of this relationship of the paying for it Yeah, or the I thought he was right and he sees his women of the night They view of them he views them as just totally available and that they should be so lucky to get to sleep with him But these kind of views they get into his car. He starts have the reality of it come in as she begins to say This costs money. This is what we're gonna do. She begins the negotiations right and that's gonna switch turns on in his brain of Like he had some magical Shit-fucked nerd idea that she was gonna come in the car

And I guess like blow him for free thinking that all of this was gonna be like some kind like she would look at his hair I'd be like I'll cow want to see if the curtains match the drapes And then like see if she opens up his fucking pants and see if his bush is fucking two feet high Right, but that's not how it goes Now it's interesting a lot of people like it's the equivalent of saying you read playboy for the articles Yeah, it's the same thing to be like I go to sex workers for the conversation I don't even look at that though, but you got to pay him you You still yes, you still have to pay. Well, he thought it was gonna be this grand romantic encounter

And it ended up being a very Mechanical type of transaction Even so he still made it back to her place and got to the point where the unnamed woman was naked She said it was a fiver for sex, but all Peter had on him was a ten pound note She claimed to not have change. I mean you're fucking. What do you think? She's nude. Do you think she has one of those coin bells? No, yes, she doesn't have fucking change. Pull my finger and a couple of coins pop out. That's incredible And that's gonna cost you ten. I mean to do my old five a bit. You're gonna have to give me ten

Just a little I they're never gonna have change Can you break this hundred They can't they're gonna keep that hundred So she got dressed and went to the garage across the street while Peter waited in his car But suddenly two men appeared from the garage and started banging on Peter's roof Tell them the fuck off the scam was in So Peter sped away humiliated and outraged more because he wasn't able to get back at Sonya for her Daliants with the Italian man them for losing the fiver to a wily lady of the night

So he just went back like her umf like all yeah, oh my goodness Well, then also, you know fully blue ball did all experiences and he doesn't understand because he's a fucking chit-head Right that yes this yeah, he got scammed, but also, you know, he didn't do it, right? Yeah Adding to this humiliation was the fact that Peter had left his new industrial job early that night to have this experience And because of his negligence Several of his co-workers almost died because Peter wasn't there to do his job Hmm. It was like a why it was a big ol fuck up. Yeah, and so he did everything bad He's not a bright human being. He was a very you know, you know, yeah, what we've said, of course

Then a few days later Peter saw the woman who'd stiffed him and so he asked for his money back I mean, I think the problem was she didn't stiff him Instead of giving him the money back She started telling everyone on the street about how the boy wanted a refund and the whole goddamn neighborhood Had a good laugh at Peter's expense because it's ridiculous. It's stupid I mean, but it's humiliation on top of humiliation on top of humiliation and at every point it is his fault It's not he's blaming everybody else for it. It's not a kinko's. She didn't print the paper wrong It's a sex worker. You're not gonna get a refund. She tried to fuck you

She would have still fucked you despite your head despite what your fucking dick smells like She would have still had sex with you, but he didn't want to deal with it because it came down It came down to these kind of Robert Hansen ask a little But baby freakouts where because these are not that big of humiliations either No, you fucked up on your own job, and then you fucked up Dealing with a sex worker and so you are entirely at fault, but of course he Elliot Rogers it So it's just everybody else. I can see I can see myself at the bar with the buddy as he walks in be like I demand a refund and we'll just be like

Hey, Teresa that guy's trying to get some money off you. Huh? You fuck him up. Yeah. That's like, yeah I fucked him up That guy's one of the dumbest people I've ever seen in my life. Oh, I mean weird to meet someone He's like, oh, you want a refund? No, no, don't worry about it. Let me just shit all that come out Scraping up Thank you. Thank you very much for giving me my babies make and then his fucking cock would eat up the same and like It was a dog eat a bunch of farmers farmers dog Incredible well made it

Artisanal meals for your dog. It's food so good your children will want to eat it because you're not taking care of them Well Peter did what men of his ilk often do he turned the humiliation and anger He felt toward one woman into hatred for all women who did sex work Hmm, although his first violent act towards a woman would be focused on the perpetrator of his first humiliation Not too long after the incident on the street Peter was parked in his car with his friend Trevor birds all eating fish and chips after a night out at the pub Mmm, just smell that car Chips in 1968 or 70 70 this is 69

From what Trevor said Peter was eating when suddenly his demeanor changed and he slipped out of the car 10 minutes later Peter returned out of breath and told birds all to drive away as fast as he could Once they were away Peter said he saw the woman who'd scammed him So we followed her and hit her in the head with a piece of brick stuffed into a sock So Peter Sutcliffe actually talked about this move quite often because he would yet is like at this point He'd built a little bit of a group of boys that kind of sort of put up with and listened and sort of laughed at his stories Because he used to tell them all the time. I fuck them all the time I fuck these girls all the time and they never make me pay which was never true like right

I mean never did that once but and then he also brought up several times like you never need you ever need a quick old Wacky mop you go in there and you fucking put it up and you take your You get a sock and you put it in your pocket and you can put up a rock and put it in things So he was obsessed with this little weapon Yeah, okay, so he was a bit of a man about town in his own weird world in his own wheel weird world Yes, and the woman was rattled but relatively unscathed Considering what Peter would work his way up to and she'd written down the registration on birds all's car as the two men had driven away Eventually, the assault was traced to Peter and the cops gave him a stern talking to oh

My god stern speaking with that's very embarrassing because think about how embarrassing a stern talking to a police officer is versus all of Yorkshire going You just imagining them all laughing at you again But nothing more happened they just gave him a stern stern talking to don't do it again He beat a woman with a brick and a sock. Yeah, and it's a stern talking to that's a stern talking. Yeah Maybe a little bit more heightened than that because we're seeing the very beginnings of how they view the sex worker And how they right the serious of the how serious those crimes are towards them. Yes, absolutely Later that year Peter had another run-in with the police when he was found crouching in the garden in the middle of the night Clutching a hammer, and of course he was charged with the very interesting crime of just not gardening

It's not that I'm not guardian in but I'm thinking about flowers That work Force gone Yeah time for another stern talking to I'm going to get to detective ventura over here to speak to you with his butt New York Times best-selling authors Well three years after that it's thought that Peter Sutcliffe may have attempted his first murder Although Peter himself never fessed up to it

So we have a three years after the first assault of the sex worker. Yeah, that's a pretty long He was just stewing this happens It's it's different for every serial killer, but Peter Sutcliffe is it's pretty common where the They give themselves allowances and they just slowly work their way up to the murder very few of the people that we've covered like start Straight up with like big fucking horrible murder Peter So if it's those guys one of those guys that just like it's just little by little by little well Ed Kemper Yeah, where you slow you're you're visualizing what you're going to do again and again and again You sit and you think about it each time you do it you start maybe fleshing out your own fantasy more and more

Maybe you start going talking more the girls on the street because they said they had a reputation they knew him So he was around already so he would come and he would chat up everybody and get in the world And he started kind of feeling like and maybe he had a little bit of good feelings a little bit where they started kind of like talking When the buddy all been the back of his head he knew each one of them was going to not give him change and he did not like it So he slowly it would flesh out and then all it takes is the one step forward the physicalized the fantasy Well in 1972 a 19 year old typist in Westgate said she was followed after she left the pub one night Once she was in a secluded area a stranger grabbed her from behind punched her in the back of the head and pushed her into a

Wall but before things went from bad to worse the attacker was chased away by a guard from a nearby prison This wasn't necessarily Peter's mo but the woman said that when Peter Sutcliffe was caught She was absolutely sure he was her attacker Although at the time all she could say was that the assailant looked like cat Stevens Well, if anybody was more specific looking than Peter Sutcliffe besides mr. Potato head I don't know how he I don't know how he committed these crimes for as long as he did Yeah, I just feel bad for cat Stevens I mean he's gonna use to be in this man. He couldn't travel after 9-eleven

He's not cat Steve is anymore He's like dog. He's like dog Billy now you set Islam. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely not dog Billy Because I'm pretty sure he would be allowed Well with welcome arms after 9-eleven if his name was dog Billy The two years later Peter may have escalated once more that year a 28 year old woman named Gloria Wood Was hit in the head with a hammer by a man who had a similar cat Stevens look Then in 1975 a 14 year old in Silsden said that she was attacked by a man who called himself Tony Jenis

And when he rained blows on her head and face with a heavy object He made a grunting sound similar to that of famous tennis player Jimmy Connors I looked up some Jimmy Connors, and it is a lot of the tennis noises are weird man Mr. Connors, I don't know if it's illegal what you're doing, but your opponent has said you're Distracting him with sounds of orgasm. Do you please grunt like a man? Are you right? You're right. I'll grunt like a man Like how men grunt. Yeah, of course Now these aren't confirmed Peter Sutcliffe cases as the cat Stevens look was apparently pretty popular in the UK in the early 70s Just we can stop maligning cat Stevens

There's plenty of people cats I mean cats did the cat Stevens look was just the cat Stevens look bearded bush big bushy beard Yeah, but with the soft spot for his father He wasn't there. He was always working cuz I know What is confirmed however is that Peter Sutcliffe's criminal MO was established in 1975 Now by 1975 Peter Sutcliffe had already been married to Sonya Zerma for a year And the two of them were living under the roof of Sonya's parents But neither the family nor Sonya would ever suspect that Peter was the infamous Yorkshire Ripper Oh

That summer Peter attacked two women named Anna Rogulski and olive smelt with Anna Peter followed her for days running off every time she noticed the man with the quote racing eyes and dainty hands Some of us are just we just look like that Damn so he wasn't even I guess he wasn't really good at this sneaking No, well, you'll see he grows he grows because it because it becomes more and more attractive to him But on July 4th 1975 Peter took his first real step into serial killing Smashing Anna's head three times with a ball peen hammer before he lifted her skirt and began slashing at her stomach He was just about to plunge the knife into her flesh for the killing blow when a man down the street

Called out asking what was happening Peter ran but strangely the man who called out didn't check on the woman lying on the ground Rather Anna wasn't discovered for another hour and doctors worked on her in surgery for half a day To remove all the splinters of bone from her brain She survived but had no memory of what had happened Damn five weeks later Peter tried again with all of smelt his first sex worker victim of many That night Peter and Trevor Birdsall were again out drinking this time in Halifax But as they were on their way back to Bradford Peter suddenly got out of the car

This seems to be one of his first triggering mechanisms where I think that in my mind I mean this is totally fiction, but I imagine Peter and Trevor are hanging out and so Cliff is running his mouth as always and he is talking himself up About all the how he loves to fuck Every single thing that he does you know like how the women love him and how no one will respect him because he go Basically, this is his he's acting like the guy and then that night He I think in a weird way. It almost starts us of a way to like show off for his friends. Yeah, right? Well, Peter had spotted a woman turning down an alleyway

So he slipped out of the car somehow carrying a hammer and a hacksaw without Birdsall seeing it And these friends seem a little bit like blinders on yeah, dude. Come on And so Sutcliffe followed all of smelt into the darkness And after mumbling some pleasantries about the weather Sutcliffe struck her twice in the back of the head with the hammer Before dragging the hacksaw blade across the small of her back Olive's life was only saved by approaching headlights and when Peter got back to the car He said nothing to Trevor and Birdsall saw the news of the attack the next day He knew that Peter Sutcliffe had done it. Oh, he did know he knew but he said we knew he said nothing

He said out of loyalty to his friend. I Mean, this is where the loyalty. I love my boy. I love my boys. I love my boys But this is where the loyalty I think would stop for me I know I mean you can talk to him in prison, but you gotta put him out man I'll support during the trial and mean like I should have stopped you But I also would be like you know like any step too far My only thing is that if you call like one of you murder somebody, you know the protocol I just need an explanation that I can apply to my own brain sure sure

So I can help you hide a body if I have to she said she said that Dune was for fat nerds And I I said no, no, where's the body? Yeah, let me see her. Oh, I'm not gonna know that it's not Excusable it has to be something like that was my corn that she ate. Oh So he is like getting validation not just from the cops you give him a stern talking to yeah But from his friends who are like, oh, this is again another reminder of how sex workers have been demeaned through time Mm-hmm why we need to have it up and in the daylight legalize it Absolutely lies it but because Birdsall said nothing Peter Sutcliffe was successful in murder for the first of 13 times on October 29th 1975

That night Peter picked up Wilma McCann in the city of Leeds as she staggered home from a night of drinking She got in his car and asked if he wanted some business and he replied that he did So they drove to a field and parked they talked for a minute, but her tone suddenly changed pretty much saying Let's get on with it. Yeah, if we're doing this, let's do this Yeah Now Peter said when he couldn't get aroused immediately McCann called him useless and said she didn't have all fucking day Which of course brought Peters rage to the forefront. You got one job

Utility the penis is utility tool I thought you were horny enough to fuck me and you just saw me on the side of the street So like I got to get back to my rags and then this is the UK So she's got to go and make her she got a knit rags and she's got to go and buff the floor of a castle There's so many jobs for a night time person then Peter suggested that maybe they'd have better luck trying it out on the grass so McCann Exasperatedly complied and got out of the car while her back was turned Peter grabbed his hammer from his back seat By the time he got to the spot McCann had chosen. She'd already started undoing her pants saying let's get this over with

Peter said don't worry. I will and struck her hard in the head with the hammer twice She fell flat on her back and made a loud Horrible gurgling noise in her arm began to move up and down voluntarily from the blow to the head So Sutcliffe walked back to the car grabbed a knife and stabbed her over and over again in a blind panic Making certain that Wilma McCann would never tell a soul what he'd done Now we know that he is a process and product killers He is a process killer. Mm-hmm. So his what he would do is this one. I think you could see that he panicked and Stabbed her and stabbed her and stabbed her but obviously he was getting something out of it as well

And they said they probably you can imagine the sexual act Was him stabbing her and stabbing her and he probably they said most times he would then masturbate over the corpse Oh, he did that stuff to get it out. That's how he would finally finish it, right? That's how but the end but then it would be like Out of a system, right? Then he'd be gone and that's and that's the difference Four months later in January Peter Sutcliffe came across Emily Jackson Jackson was also in sex work and Sutcliffe claimed that it was the smell of her cheap perfume That made him decide to commit murder that night. She's not wearing the good stuff for a john

She's not gonna waste the good stuff on your fucking ass and didn't you are you know, of course like I I hate these types of dudes because you could have just had sex. Yeah Sutcliffe picked her up at about 7 p.m Parked behind some derelict industrial buildings in the city center and pretended his car was broken down He asked her if she could help him pop the hood and as she looked at the engine with a cigarette lighter Sutcliffe struck her twice in the back of the head with his hammer He then dragged the body into a trash filled yard and stabbed Jackson 52 times with a Phillips head screwdriver

Before picking up a piece of wood which he thrust between her legs as a strange and pathetic gesture of disgust for Jackson's lifestyle Now this is where he hones in and discovers what he really likes He likes the multiple very because what do you know when somebody's been stabbed? More than once this is a rage crime Is somebody who's doing this again and again because this takes some fucking it takes some energy Yeah, it's exactly the same He immediately adopted an mo which is It's it became very ritualistic because the first time he killed with a hammer used a hammer

The hammer was accidental and then it became an immediate almost kind of Like this is this is what I do like I adopt the these things. These are my tools and I'm not certain why I really don't know why he chose the hand. I think he just chose the hammer in particular It's a it is definitely an instrument of rage It works like like when when you are hitting someone in the head with a hammer like that that is a like that takes A lot of rage to fucking do that. I guess it also kind of hides in plain sight people have hammers in their car Yeah, it's just a hammer. That's true. It's not a big fucking butcher's knife It's not a gun and he already works in like he works in vaguely kind of like, you know, there's hammers around

Yeah, I feel like every guy until 1994 just had a hammer because your father would just buy you a toolkit And for some reason you had to keep it in your car And it never I never you never opened it ever Yeah, I only have a hammer because because for a while adult swim was giving Christmas gifts in the shapes of tools And I literally have an adult swim hammer that it has become my hammer Which I tried to use and it's it's more of a prop. I use my adult swim hammer all the time It's not exactly great. It's a great hammer. It's a good hammer. It's a good useful hammer. Sure. Sure Well after the murder

Sutcliffe returned to his in-laws house without a drop of blood on his clothes Filled with a sense of satisfaction and justification for what he believed he'd accomplished Now Sonia spent Wednesday and Saturday nights working at a nursing home with her mother And they never returned until the next morning which gave Peter ample time to prowl the streets of Bradford Two nights a week looking for another victim And she'd come home and see him sleep in the 4 p.m. And she's like he works so hard Thinking that he was been working all night and that's why he's tired. Right His next was Marcella Claxton attack just a few months after Emily Jackson, but Claxton survived

The problem was that Claxton had an IQ Around 50 and the police did not believe her when she reported the crime But still her survival spooked Peter enough where he didn't try again until the following year in February of 1977 He picked up Irene Richardson and drove her to almost the same spot where he'd killed Wilma McCann And strangely Gordon Byrne the author of somebody's husband somebody's son Made sure to point out that this spot was only a short distance from the home of infamous pedophile Jimmy Savile Yeah, he's just out there watching jerking off having a great time say his house's christmas theme 24

Hours a day 365 a week. So that was probably also very creepy. That was probably creepy for peter suckliffe Honestly, that is disgusting. Jimmy Savile. Would we ever cover him? Maybe his my goal is to cover him But it's gonna be a couple of juicy ones. It's nasty. It's difficult. Yeah But in any case once they arrived at their destination Irene got out of the car to urinate As she was crouched so you're gonna want to use that tombstone over there I have seen so many people take peas on that tombstone As she was crouched suckliffe took his hammer and struck her so severely that according to forensics

Suckliffe had to lever out the tool to get clear of the bone. Oh He then slashed her throat leaving a gaping wound and tore a seven inch gash on the left side of the abdomen Causing the intestines to spill out on the ground Rolling her over suckliffe then arranged the corpse He stuffed her pants and tights into her knee-high boots and draped them across the back of her thighs And covered the spilled intestines with leaves and twigs before driving away Leaving the corpse to be found the next morning by what else but a jogger. I thought you were gonna say jimmy savill No, so he's getting like kind of tight us with it. He's like trying to make art. Is that is that what he's doing here?

What he's trying to do It's it's kind of it's the same thing as jack the ripper where he's arranging the body To to freak out whoever finds it whoever he wants because he wants to traumatize someone Again and then traumatize them again when like the cops have to come in right with the first cuts the ravaging of the corpse Comes from that's him getting off To in my mind it is an instinctual Fucking like stab stab stab full on total destruction of the corpse pause you just shoot you come Right you all the thing this thing happened the fucking that that sort of flurry of activity clears and then it's like

All right now it's time for something completely different to take something from monty python Well, it was with this murder that the press finally began to get involved printing sensationalistic headlines like jack the ripper murder horror And ripper hunted and call girl murders. So he got everything that he wanted. Why is it that the media? This is why we do a good job. You're not to pet ourselves in the back. But like we should call this guy like like The the leaky turd killer. I don't know what to call him But just like don't call him something that makes him seem like Fucking jack the rippers. You know crazy demonic son. Mm-hmm. They got to sell news They got to sell them papes because not those news boys get turned into fucking dog food for the king's rottweilers

Yeah, that's probably true And it was also with this murder that the police began their complete and total bungling of the entire investigation From beginning to end See when it comes to a murder investigation, it's important to keep an open mind Especially when it comes to serial murders But the police in this situation seemed hell bent on narrowing their field of vision as much as possible from the very beginning I suppose I mean I know the instinct is to find the perpetrator as soon as possible and the more you narrow it things down The faster you're gonna find them, but they completely fucked it up

I thought you I thought you were gonna say when that comes to the cops keeping an open mind. They were fine with transgender bathrooms But apparently that's not the case back in the day. Yeah And when they began looking for a motive for the murders of wilma mccann Emily jackson and iran Richardson. They chose hatred of prostitutes as the number one factor Okay, and this was the right call. Yeah, but they used the information in all the wrong ways In thinking about it so narrowly They only looked at previous attacks where the victim survived involving sex workers

And if you'll remember none of peter suckcliffe's surviving victims who had seen his face were in sex work Which meant that the cops completely overlooked the cat stevens character who'd showed up again and again in previous local attacks They could have seen a pattern, but they didn't they also I'm gonna say straight up weaponized their ignorance with certain like witness testimony like marcella clackston Marcella was a little bit. They think that she might have been a bit

mentally handicapped And so they immediately did not believe anything that she said they're like, well, you don't know what's what you're talking Right, and then they said several things to anybody that there's something about but when you see several times Like cat Stevens killed me and we don't even we're not even gonna talk to cat Stevens once I don't think we need to bother cat Stevens. He is busy singing to a group of kids in portland He is that killing a bunch of sex workers in the uk Well marcella she was also taken out of the pile because she hadn't been attacked with a knife Even though she had been attacked with the hammer

And as far because as far as the cops were concerned if a knife wasn't involved it wasn't a Yorkshire ripper case Yeah, it's a little that's a little narrow. Yeah, you know, the only thing was to be fair They had very little knowledge about the idea of serial murder and the idea of escalation And so they were just trying again. They were just aren't wrapped this shit up being like we just need to get this whole thing He's trying to kill prostitutes who got again and they because they are just fucking I don't know man. It's like a Yorkshire. I don't know if I can And they ran out of puddings Yeah, yeah

Well, it was around this time that peter got a job as a truck driver working for an engineering transport firm called t and w h Clark There his co-workers found him odd because he kept all his truck pornography neat and tidy Instead of plastering the walls of his truck cabin with centerfolds like everyone else did that's why they thought he was weird I mean, yeah, they thought he was being like some fancy assholes I just feel like this is not just an indictment on soocliff the whole town So we got most people are like me he's got a weird he doesn't take a shit on graves at all And then this guy's like he doesn't even come on the paper on the walls He keeps it in the little thing called a magazine

You're supposed to be coming on the paper because then you can cramble it up and you can come right and then praying But he uh, but he was so ex-happy to become a truck driver because the whole thing was that look at how big my truck is Yeah, like he loved cars so much that finally he's a part of this. He has this 250 pound 250,000 pound Like the money worth Fucking 18 wheeler and he just thought it's for all it put it in a vagina a bit You know, he just loves his big old truck There was a time where being a trucker was the coolest job you could have over the top Yeah, we got a great big convoy. Absolutely. We got a convoy across the usa

Yeah, we know But meanwhile sex workers and leads were starting to work in pairs with some leaving the area altogether for nearby Manchester or down south to london Tina ackerson. However took no such precautions On april 23rd 1977 she was drunk banging on the roofs of cars and shouting fuck off when people drive away Oh, she's having fun. Yeah, she's looking for business. Okay. Yeah Now as Tina was banging on car roofs. She came across the vehicle of Peter Sutcliffe and they soon ended up back at her apartment She got on the bed and Peter hit her four times with a hammer knocking her to the floor

He then pulled her back up to the bed and clawed her exposed torso with a hammer Before stabbing her in the stomach and covering up as much of her blood as he could with her bed sheets And as he was driving off he threw the hammer out of his car window But instead of ending up in the hands of the police The hammer was used by a local groundskeeper as a regular part of his tool set for the next three years There is no such thing as a free lunch or free hammer. So please But it was with Sutcliffe's next victim that he would bring the attention of the entire country to leads On June 26th, 1977 the Yorkshire Ripper claimed a 16 year old shop clerk named Jane McDonald

Which of course is exactly why people start paying attention to it as soon as you start killing what they view as an innocent Well that night Peter had gone to a gay bar called the dog in the pound with a couple of friends Now what's gay about that? But Peter had left in a huff after refusing to buy a round when it was his turn Which when it comes to fucking going out and drinking with the british, that's fucking cardinal sen right there. Yeah, of course it is What's wrong with this guy at 2 a.m. As he was driving home. He saw Jane walking down the street Assuming she was a lady of the night Sutcliffe parked his car grabbed his hammer and knife and got out following McDonald along chapel town road

Once he got close He struck her in the head and dragged her to a nearby playground Once they were off the road He hit her two more times then pulled up her shirt and stabbed her in the chest and back Stabbing one wound in particular as many as 20 times Over and over again. This is what the knife or the screwdriver knife He's moved on to a knife And then what he would do is the the weirdest the thing that was highly specific to him

Where he would he would make a stab wound and then stick the knife back into the same wound and stab in multiple different directions Inside of one wound Making it bigger and bigger and it's nothing could be more of an of straight up Mimicking of the sexual act than that like it's the psychology is so on top of it We showed how not in touch. She was to his own feelings that it was like happening Instinctually with his hands He was literally just guided by his cock and what it would do for him Then he took a broken bottle with the screw top still attached and embedded it in her chest

Before laying the body on its stomach and walking away Ensuring that whoever turned it over would be faced with just one more brutal discovery And with jay mcdonald the murder investigation went into high gear Although as we'll see on next week's episode The shit squad would well and truly live up to their name Damn, all right, peter succliffe succliffe What a man this dude is he's an interesting there's slight differences with this story Yeah, with a previous serial killers. We've covered. No, he is a he's a real fucking piece of shit

This guy. I don't want to be I don't want to step out of school. I know I know Um, he's a real piece of shit and then next week. We're gonna hear some more details about him that are Yeah, I don't know how to put it. So then it's uh, uh shocking Interesting and unique Some of the details that we know about peter succliffe. It really makes me wonder The sort of personal details about serial killers that Homicide investigators have held back over the years Because we find out and that we're gonna find out in the next episode like one of the most bizarre details

I've ever heard about a serial killer and it was something that the police held back They just didn't tell anybody because it wasn't necessary to getting peter succliffe Imprisoned so they held it back and really makes me wonder how many of these little facts That we will never know. All right actually exist. Well, that'll be our next week's episode of the yorkshire ripper yorkshire yorkshire ripper Oh my god Indeed um, thank you all so much for listening to this episode of the last podcast on the left And thank you all so much for the unbelievable response to the last book on the left. You guys have been so sweet Thank you for sending all the pictures on instagram. Um, I hope you guys are enjoying it

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Honestly super cool. All right, everyone hail yourselves. Hail Satan again. Let's do a maghustalations. Yeah Yeah, I'm going to learn a lot about it And hey man, just make love to the sex worker. Yeah, sure I don't know if I want that either. I don't think you're supposed to really kiss them. That depends on the person No, you can't you can get if you give them a I think if you give them a tip you can get a kiss There's a series of rules that must be followed at all times. Yeah, you don't need to make love to the sex worker Have sex with the sex worker have fun Have fun. I like to like set an atmosphere make her laugh a little bit. I don't know how else you do that

You know what I mean? You are like the honestly, you're a sex worker's nightmare where they're just like, yeah, he just uh We didn't have sex. He told me jokes for five hours and I laugh I gotta fucking uh, you know, I gotta all I'm doing is running material at windy. Yeah He actually cost me four jobs. Usually we just have sex it takes 25 minutes And I'm and I go but this guy was uh, either way his new special is going to be pretty fun Does this work? I got five minutes on uh, uh, what happened to all the traffic? Oh, okay. Let's do something else. Uh, what happened to all the Restaurants, huh? That's yeah, that's uh, you can I can only fill up bread so much in my home

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