Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 412: Madame Blavatsky Part III - The Secret Doctrine

Episode Date: May 30, 2020

On this, our conclusion to our series on Madame Blavatsky, we cover both the fraud committed by Madame Blavatsky in India that still sullies her reputation to this day as well as her most influential work, The Secret Doctrine, and all of the influence both good and bad that it had on the century that came after. 

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This is my boy Muji. Yeah, I met him. I just met him Uh-huh, and he showed me a bunch of flowers from the sky. This is my this is my boy now. He's on the payroll Okay, this is baboula baboula is 13 years old now My thing is is that you may say yeah, baboula can't be he can't necessarily be working legally for the company Which is why I'm something saying like he necessarily needs to be working Legally quote-unquote for the company. Well, I see you winking and doing air quotes, but we are definitely recording this He is not legally quote-unquote wink wink wink wink, but but bully here He's doing great work. His main function is to absorb bullets that are coming at me

But and if you got a problem with his age, I do have a small problem also Henry Who is shooting at you? A lot of people have come for me to come from the hot seat if you're coming at the king You cannot miss telling that to people I told it to my mailman That's great. I had a mask on and no other clothes But I just gonna let you know if you got problem with the bullets because you're dealing with shadows and not reality No idea what that means. We're gonna explain all that shit. I love it What's up, everyone? Welcome to the last podcast on the left. I am Ben with Marcus Hi, and then we have the I guess newly secured Henry Zabrowski

willing to sacrifice the life of a child in order to save your own Whatever existence you have over there, but Bula loves his internship, and he loves a little room I keep them in this is here Muji has been taking me up the mountain. That's his main job. I call him a human elevator. And do you love it? Don't speak Muji You see Muji, right? Of course I do you're not losing your mind at all the Henry Zabrowski Sherpa The position will probably be open fairly soon because I'm assuming he will quit as soon as you've had three Bottles of whiskey and start screaming at him to change your underwear for some reason

Uh, I can't be changing my underwear. I have to be deciphering several invisible documents in front of me Understand how hard it is to see documents I understand where HPB comes from and why how many people were fucking dogging her all the time Oh, I want proof. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to fake read stuff? Have you ever taken a pantomime class? Ah, no, I believe you gotta move the eyeball, but you're not reading anything Yes, I've definitely done that in school when there was a tangible book in front of me But it's about to fake reading the faking it till you make it and once again, thank you Cliff for your notes Cliff notes Alright, let's get on to

No, Cliff is a guy it was Cliff notes. Anyway, all right, let's get on to Madame Blavatsky part three and the final chapter So when we last left Madame Blavatsky She had just gained American citizenship and was on her way to India where she would establish herself as both one of the finest Occult minds of the late 19th century and at the same time one of its biggest frauds It's kind of funny how it goes hand in hand a lot Now sometimes Madame Blavatsky's powers would be backed up by multiple witnesses But for the most part whether you believe she had powers or not depends on if you believe her number one guy Henry steel all caught or the madam herself. Hmm. So we got to take the cuck's word for it

Well, Henry steel Alcott you'd call him a cuck. I call him a liberated sub He was so excited that he got to leave his family. He's got the big long beard He's got the tiny glasses and I think a part of it a lot. I want to say a part of what's to blame here is those 1880s tiny glasses. Hmm, right the little circle ones that came back in the 1990s with Matrix all the tiny little the little circles how you see in shit Well, I think the point is you got to stay focused on the truth Oh, yeah, but although we definitely believe Madame Blavatsky committed some pretty serious fraud We also believe that there was something special about old HPB in the occult sense

The old horse has got some magic left in by serious fraud. Do you think she was just kind of frowning? Not not smiling when doing it. No, I mean serious fraud as in she was telling people She was doing one thing when in fact she was doing something very different. Oh Hmm, like what baboola I asked him to massage my feet and he goes out and he's like, uh, where do I get all these oils? I don't like the refrigerator baboola. That's mayonnaise Henry. Yep mayonnaise. Keep some soft The fuck Bert Reynolds in strip T's It's a strip T's or the other. I always miss those. I always mess those two I wouldn't squeeze the one with Elizabeth Berkley or Demi Moore. I can't tell you're slowly turning into Fred Willard. I

Did he did recently his spirit has gone into you. I've been Fred Willard for a long time His best in show performance has been my comedic spirit animal for a long time Well, the fact remains that Blavatsky's most influential work came after her most public humiliations Although the influence of that work is both very good and extraordinarily bad I'll take half of the one and half of the other Now part of the reason why HPB chose India in particular was that she was becoming obsessed with meeting Master Maria and she began to think that it was imperative that they meet in person or so she said

Perhaps a better reason for going to India was that an article called lights and shadows of spiritualism had just been published In which Blavatsky and Alcott were publicly and embarrassingly reamed as charlatans why Obviously India seems like a spiritual place very you know and so did they just straight up be like yo people of This ilk have no idea what they're talking about, you know, that's a very good question because I don't know I think it's spiritualism I Don't know fully about the history of it. I want to get more deep I want to get deeper and deeper. Stop it seem to have a

Spiritualism was both highly entertaining and extremely divisive right people were Both really into it and people thought it would help people than other people thought that it was what it as it seemed to be a Haven of charlatans and liars Right, so when HPB decided to sully the purity of her original occult vision by going into Spiritualism and trying to hook people that way I think she accidentally caught herself up in a bargain that she She didn't understand that she was gonna have to pay as well, right? She you basically you set up a scenario

She wanted the exposure that spiritualism would give her message But then when the backlash came of people like okay Well now we're now we're looking at it and we're gonna take a look at every single thing that you do and we want proof She found that didn't really hold up to the spotlight so HPB right ended up getting punished for her PR move interesting unlike Flexial which really does work Wow thing is that HPB also had Theosophists in India people in Bombay like they were all she had adherents

She had people in Bombay saying like yeah in New York City sounds like a fucking drag Why don't you come to Bombay? Things are pretty fucking cool here and we'll take care of you, okay? and Owing to a decline in her health due to a bad case of dropsy which is today called edema Bavatsky was not necessarily looking forward to another 19th century New York City winner But you think winners are bad New York City now imagine it in 1875 Yeah, keep those cars running keep that gas coming. We gotta get this place heated up I burned pure coal, and I don't do it to run anything. I do it because I like the smell

New York Island like what they used to call it but HPB feet were slowly but surely Turning into stools. Oh, she was melting Her head was slowly and all the meat from her breast to her butt meat was sliding down and becoming ankle Insulation mm-hmm, which was not good for walking around getting on a trolley And I don't know what else to happen in 1880s, New York of all it's like avoiding newsies. Yeah, no, I agree It sounds very uncomfortable, but she did also right before she went to India. She dropped about a hundred pounds Hey, y'all right the subway diet, huh? I didn't even know that existed What apparently what she would do is she would have a glass of water before each meal ten minutes before each meal

She would hold her hand over the top of the water She would stare at it intently then open up her throat and drink the whole water down drink the whole glass down in one Gulp, and she said that's how she went from about 250 to 150 by the time she went to India I can't tell you how many times I've looked at a glass of water and been like, okay, just imagine it's Pre-Pierre-Lard It's all down and then boom I'm full as hell. Is it magical thinking or is it an eating disorder? Well off to India madam Blavatsky went yay to the only place where she believed she could Rehabilitate her reputation. She was also a bit of an Indian Rachel Dolezal

She her thing was we're gonna go and just be in there and wear in a Serapi and a couple of sandals Like she was just gonna like be Indian, which doesn't seem to play. Oh, no Now Alcott was a little iffy on picking up his whole life and moving to India because he did after all still have kids and an ex-wife in New York City, he didn't abandon them completely Until he went to India and abandoned them completely. Ah, yeah, hell yeah But according to Alcott he got a full-on visit from a master in the form of an Asian man with a long black beard Wearing a yellow turban. Now from the way Alcott describes it a visit from a master Sounds like a visit to the Black Lodge in Twin Peaks very surreal and dreamlike cool

We said he sat in the room and it felt like that. Yeah, but yep Speaking of backwards the guy like walked in backwards, but like moving forwards You know that type of weird movement into the room and like they are not They are not young Alcott and then go up to him and he said the only thing he remembered he's like he's staring at this man and then he touched his hair and He went and he had this like weird little experience and then essentially the master went wink and went Disappeared Yeah, that's awesome

Well, how Gary Lachman describes it is kind of like how people describe encounters with men in black today It's that same sort of otherworldly feeling like the but like you're talking to a person who appears to be human But also doesn't seem to be all that human very uncanny speaking in riddles like mouth mouth is moving outside of the words and Highly mysterious. Yeah, I fucking love it. High strangeness It's like when you're on the phone with customer service and you know, they're talking but you also don't believe they care about you at all That's more of a spiritual Disappointment

Well, apparently Alcott had already been visited by another master at this point guy named Utan Liatto But this master the Asian man in the turban He told Alcott that he was doing great work for the good of mankind and Blavatsky needed his assistants Wherever she were to go. Okay. Alcott. He was kind of thinking like maybe this is just some guy The Blavatsky slipped five bucks to and said go tell that asshole to go to India with me You just cut to them and all of a sudden madam Blavatsky has like a turban fall out of her purse and like a fake mustache and a fake beard. He's just like, what's that? This is my question. Is it fraud to be a producer? Because that's all that is

You're just trying to get people on to the job Yeah, but according to Alcott as Henry said the visitor undid his turban handed it over and vanished into thin air and again This is if you believe Alcott. That's cool. Why you know what? I'll believe it Well, it's actually somewhat hard to tell if Alcott is actually telling the truth Or if he was just trying to prop up HPB because no matter what transpire between the two of them later Alcott remained a committed theosophist and theosophy did not exist without HPB Wow, I I am this is a call to a cultist to call me wrong I would love to see proof that it was wrong

But Alcott seemed like he was a true believer from when I was reading he'd seem like that's where the end of the The fallout between Alcott and HPB came from was that he truly viewed her as an infallible Like he thought that she was the real deal So I feel like these are instances where he saw weird shit and Can't fully explain it like this was what he essentially was looking for because he did need a kick to go to India because oh He's fucking these wife and kids are all like you're legally supposed to take care of me All these people around you need that type of boost to go and it just seems like as it always does

She's always got that fade away HPB's got the fade away at the buzzer every single time somebody is about to bail on her and so working with theosophy Society co-founder William judge Alcott was able to get a personal recommendation from President Rutherford B. Hayes And Alcott was allowed to travel to India under the roost that he was a US trade representative These were people in high places. They had a fucking line to a president Hayes. Well, Rutherford B. Hayes Rutherford Hayes I believe most of his day trying to get all of the sardines The smell out of his mustache. No Henry. You're you're thinking about William Henry Harrison. He died in 30 days

Was I yes, did Rutherford B. Hayes? He's the president got hit by a train Thinking of James Garfield. He got killed while getting off a train. Yeah, I was I Think Hayes you might be thinking to him. He might have been one of the first presidents to do whistle-stop tour I'm not sure nope didn't know that I had no frickin clue who these people are Now I'm not sure what sort of traveling companion Madame Helena Blavatsky was when she was traipsing around the world as a younger woman Sure when she was in her fifties and suffering from dropsy. She was quote

Unanimously voted a nuisance by everyone else on the ship to India loud and difficult. Who's collecting the votes? I got the same thing happened to me and when I was a senior in high school and then every day with my family So once they arrived in Bombay they met with their advance contact a man named Moolji Thakursley and he was working with an adept named hurry chun Chintamon Who is a member of the Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor just making up fucking names man? Yeah, they those are just Indian. Those are the names of Indian men. Oh my god I didn't know hurry. I mean, I love hurry chun. I think it's a very fun name It just sounds very magical. Yeah, these guys are a part of the real Hermetic Brotherhood of Lexor because this is the group

Remember the Hermetic Brotherhood of Lexor didn't exist right made up for a bunch of fake like occult glossaries back in the day So these guys just took the name and said yeah, we're a part of that Super ancient society, and yeah, I'm definitely Indian. I'm from Bombay, New Jersey That'll count that counts. They were Indian. I'm saying They were all Indian. That was the whole point is that they were all in good from New Jersey Were they from New Jersey? No, they were not from New Jersey They were from Bombay because that was the whole thing is that like madam Blavatsky her first adherents in India were Indian yes, oh, yeah, no, she was she this is what was super weird kind of like she had spent some time in India

But these dudes are coming out of the woodwork saying being like HPB. What's up? And she would just like fucking give them high five. How the fuck do you know of course? Now even though her book Isis Unveiled had sold well She and Alcott were traveling on what you might call a budget and they requested modest lodgings with a minimum number of Servants from their hosts. I mean these are rich people who a Minimal number of servants is a strange request to be like a we're on a budget I mean no servants they were being paid the servants were being paid, but it was like assistant, right, you know Yeah, you like you guys yeah

I mean like that the justice people have assistance today like it's we just say assistance now at servants It's the same goddamn thing. Sometimes I call hunks move and junk just to just to get them on the phone And they're like you're not moving anywhere like no, no, what are you wearing? Now one source says that hurry chund provided them with lodging in his own home While the other source says that hurry chund rented an expensive vacation bungalow for his new guests Hmm both, however say that on their second night in India hurry chund hosted an extravagant reception with over 300 guests to celebrate both their arrival and Mahashiva ratri also known as Shiva's night damn

But Blavatsky and all caught they didn't ask for any of this shit No, they just arrived and but HPB she enjoyed it right you just like see how important I am See the powers that I have people come parties are thrown just for my very presence Look at the look at all of these people all saying I am a teacher there I'm they're here to learn from me and then hurry chund gave them the bill. Yeah My god, are you kidding me? I am so pissed. What is this 150 years? I am pissed for them right now I gave him the bill and also on top of that also gave them the bill for the telegrams that he sent inviting them to India

Well, if I knew I was getting the bill I wouldn't have ordered the second round of chicken lollipops would I that's why I wouldn't have done that Because you know that I know I've had this by before I remember there was one time the only time I ever got bottle services with our Buddy seen it because Navi he he got bottle service at this like club. We went to I don't know how the hell I ended up there But I remember at the end of the night. Everybody was so fucked up, right? I remember at some point see one person talk to like somebody from the club I obviously walked up to one of the members of the people at the table and I heard them like Like song talking and now you see like the club owners being like we're not I'm not speaking to you anymore

You're not gonna and then see me and I just try to pretend like I also am far too drunk to have a conversation But he started knew that it because it was right after I had booked a to z and he walked right up And he's just like here's the bill No, and I guarantee you everyone's like oh don't stress it. This is on But it's that truth just I could see HBB's face of her just like holding court that all of a sudden That's like a waiter just showing up with just a silver platter with a piece of paper on it And you're just going cuz I'm trying to make it disappear and

And hurry chun tried charging them for staying at his house Smart guy just like but that's the thing is that all cotton HPV had already sent him 600 rupees in advance for expenses But hurry chun had to sheepishly admit that he'd spent every bit of the money. They'd sent on Personal expenses. He's a busy guy. I'm sorry. Sorry. I know and then they're very classic. Um, but don't worry. I wrote you an IOU I That's a party for 300 people you're gonna want to hold on to that That is a stinger it's a singer you just anything you didn't eat you're pissed off you passed on it

I'm gonna eat that food get up eat that food. Oh, yeah Such hurry chun was kicked out of the Theosophical Society in disgrace and HPB in all caught found somewhere else to stay Somewhat rattled by the rocky start to what was supposed to be a new life supported by loyal adherents You can maybe call it a sign. Yeah, since HPB in all caught were in India the land of the so-called masters It follows that they would encounter them here and there or at least HPB had to appear to have encounters with the masters. It's just grabbing random people off the street You're a master. Are you a master? Oh my good. Look finally a master. It's Tiger Woods Please wear your green jacket. He is the best

Well from what HPB claimed she first encountered a master as she and her friend Mulgee were riding around the city in a buggy Suddenly she ordered her driver to stop at a mysterious bungalow which Mulgee was forbidden from entering She said I'll be right back. She went inside and came out claiming that master Moria had been waiting for her inside And had given her a bundle of white roses. She was mysteriously just holding some white roses when you said they were traveling in a buggy I can't stop thinking of Marlon Brando in the island of dr. Moro. It's very similar super pale Well Moria also told her that they could use the bungalow which was apparently invisible to unwanted visitors Whenever they like. Oh, the only thing I will say in defense of HPB in this moment is that Olcott was there as well He went in when he walked into the bungalow together and he did see a man and her go into a separate room

Have a separate some kind of conversation. She came out with a bouquet of roses It's very strange because we don't know how the hell she noticed guy how else she's just driving along and she's just says stop Goes out into just some random ass dudes house where he seems to know HPB very well But none of nobody else is allowed to talk to him, right? It's very strange. I mean because if HPB did not have any contact with you know, so-called masters Then she had one hell of a social network like she was somebody if she did not have contact with these people She had a fucking network of informants some headhunters that were going out and looking for guys and doing casting calls and Finding the right people finding the right actors for all this shit

And of course that is also if you believe all caught because most of the time when they say like yeah The old other people saw the masters those other people usually all caught but olcott was the responsible one kind of like that's kind of his That was his bag, right? It's the whole thing is that he did all the paperwork He did all the hard stuff running the society HPB was the magic She was the one that was like the fuel for the fire All caught was a witness and a party to all the shit, which is why I do think that he ended up being Loyal to her to the very bitter end bitter end when he finally couldn't do it anymore Yeah, I hope that they have some success here because currently I am totally I am I am totally team madden

Blavatsky and all caught right now because of what happened to them What a horrible first night or second night now Moolji supposedly had an encounter with master Maury as well He would you know all caught in Blavatsky. They weren't the only ones a couple other guys did see them on That day he all caught HPB and their 15 year old man servant baboola were boy They were on their way to a set of ancient Buddhist temples cut into solid rock Did you ever look up pictures of those things? No, I haven't it was called the allura caves These things were wild they were they are they are crazy looking and they are full-on homes

Like in whole temples just carved into a mountain well while they were on their way there the master also gave flowers to Moolji Saying that yeah, these aren't for you. They're for all caught give them over to all caught But you gave me the flowers good sir. You're a messenger now, okay? That's what just happened. You just got mastered That's the beginning of 1 800 flowers when you want to give your mother a gift, but you still need some distance Oh, then later that night as they were in the caves all caught her to sound like a large door opening and immediately after HPB apparently vanished into thin air amidst her own piercing laughter She then reappeared later saying the noise all caught heard was a secret door leading to a secret chamber

And she'd found her way inside for a secret conference of the masters to discuss Secret topics. Oh my god the kfc recipe But this was wild right because remember she had rhino feet she had a hard time moving around Very difficult walk into this they walk into this fucking place He it's it's like a fucking the Batman movie where he walks in He looks around all of this like crazy Carvings all this like weird things inside. All of a sudden you hear like boom. Shh. Ha ha ha ha He disappears he looks around for her because she's hard to miss and then all of a sudden turns back around and there she is

It's like ha ha I fooled you again God damn it HPB you gotta stop turning my mind all around you already got me Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I mean she was yeah, she was not a fast mover when they were when they went to these caves She had to be carried half the way up being in a cave is very difficult. I went to one in North Dakota I'm still traumatized looking at whatever the hell I was supposed to look at. What do they call triceratops? What do they call those stupid things that drip down from the freaking caves? Are you talking about stalactites? Hey, welcome to the world where I don't give a shit and everyone's like

This is pretty interesting. I'm like, I think I'm stuck. They're beautiful So they're absolutely unless unless you're claustrophobic and then nothing is beautiful because you're just you realize you're just in a cave And you're too big to be there Truly after the descent I will never go into a cave ever I just read a whole story about a guy who was buried alive in a cave because he went down alone They were able to rescue a kid because the kid was small enough, but this guy wasn't able to be rescued He's still there to this day. I believe it's in Utah Never go into a cave alone never never ever

Now these were only two of the many different interactions HPB and Alcott had with the masters in India and many times HPB would reportedly be able to send messages both to the masters and other Theosophists by writing the messages down and throwing them out of moving trains and they would get to them somehow very strange But the people who are not very impressed with HPB were the existing religious figures in India whom HPB Ironically demanded phenomena from even though she had once been so reticent to demonstrate it herself for so-called looky-loose So she's kind of pissing off the wrong people reminds me a bit of Rasputin She's messing with some powerful folks here. Mm-hmm The first guy she pissed off was a Sikh aesthetic who had been squatting in meditation for 52 years

Leaving his position only at midnight to bathe in a nearby river. This dude is fucking serious very serious And I'm glad he takes that knifely bath My god when she asked him through an interpreter for phenomena He scoffed and called such spectacles quote play things of the ignorant. He's completely correct. You just got Fuckin roasted. Yeah, you got sick. I love the Sikh religion a taxi driver on the way back from JFK He I was so hungover and said he was very encouraging and he gave me a little flier about it Oh, it's a it is a religion of love move like water I think you're like can I have some water? No, no, no, no, no, sir. No, it was very sweet man

Very helpful. Well, this man told Blavatsky that there was a much larger truth beyond visible phenomena And only a calm mind and an unperturbed soul could perceive that truth Well, this only further annoyed Blavatsky because nobody would have claimed that HBB was ever an unperturbed soul with a calm mind I'm plenty fucking calm. It's something me. That's me. I'm calm. I'm perfectly rational The next seat they spoke with was a nude emaciated gentleman with a collapsed stomach Who'd been living outdoors by choice for over a year another meditation thing? Huh, and he gave Blavatsky the same disdainful response scoffed Yeah, because who it like they don't know who did they know who she was? God. No, so this is just some random American

Russian Russian, but technically an American American citizen either way someone who was an outsider just been like Perform for me dance for me. Of course, they're gonna say no When Blavatsky was denied a third time by another Sikh mystic She according to all caught sternals lost her shit for a little bit hogging the whole seat on the elephant They'd ridden out to the mystic while her companions clung to the elephant's rum Nobody cares nobody cares about my tour nobody cares about doing tricks for me You're all you all sit where the shit go

I'm sitting up by the head enough of this shit. I need to clear my fucking mind I guess my mind you need to be to be fucking calm enough for me to achieve all the magic, huh? So I better have enough room up here Unanimously a nuisance I understand the I get the vote now. Um, my theory is that she Oh, well, you know are the masters real? I don't know right who fucking knows I feel like at some point she did receive a series of teachings from adepts from all over the world She was picking apart all different sources of knowledge as much as you can. She might have made up the masters

We'll get into that. We're not we're not sure probably but it doesn't matter. I don't know But when she showed up to see see these real six like these real Sikhs aesthetics like real wise men She kind of fangirls a little bit because up this point up to this point. She has really just kind of touched the very Outside of it. She can move like do the wraps move cups around do little tricks But she never really got to the next step, which is their total body control control of reality if that is all true like the idea of like gurus being able to fly Change their body temperature walk through walls all that kind of shit like what LRH was promising still wait to see if Tom Still wait you can do it

So wait a dude He's gonna I already it's gonna walk through a wall the new Elon Musk space movie that he's gonna do Can't wait and then he's gonna suck a dick for six whole minutes on camera, which I also think is very brave Well, that will be that that'll be one of those where it's like, you know, they didn't cut one time during shooting They kept the same camera angle the entire time like No, but but I wonder if she got frustrated with that where she's like show me the secrets I want to see the secrets now and she didn't realize that in the end that moment She was a massive hypocrite. Yeah, because the secrets are within you. You have to do the exercise

You got to be outside for a year. You got a squat for 52 fricking years. I'm not just giving you the secrets. Yeah, it's all You are understanding it. Exactly. I mean to in her mind She had done the work she had done the reading because at this point she's in her fifties She'd been studying this shit since she was a little girl. It is her entire life And so in her mind, she'd done all the fucking work and she shows up to these guys and go What the fuck are you talking about? You're nothing It is literally like me going up to Finn Balor or John Cena to WWE superstars and be like give me your abs I'll take your abs. You have to do the work if you don't do the work

You don't get the abs, which is why I don't feel so bad all the time because I'm happy because I don't deserve to be thin And if I was then there would be no rules in the universe. No, the truth is that no if you became thin it means you have cancer Even though Blavatsky was I call it I call it cancer because I refuse Hellish rebuke hellish rebuke to the can't don't be now. You're just being Steve Jobs What if I switch to plantain ships know you're gonna die mr. Jobs Now even though Blavatsky was denied secrets from many of the public mystics in India The main purpose of the trip was still to rehabilitate her image Hmm, so she and her followers started work on a monthly magazine called the Theosophist

Supported by an already growing number of Theosophists in the Hindu upper class the Theosophist magazine was an immediate hit selling out its initial print run of 750 copies an establishing HPB as an occult force to be reckoned with in British ruled India the Theosophist also sounds like a great pastor porn fisting type thing Where it's like you're oh hello, mr. Pastor I'm a naughty gal and then he's like come over here. Let me fist you Just keep going man Write this script tell your story

Man, I think I know what your third act is gonna be Fucking producer You're gonna be the ideas guy at vivid video man. Well, I bring talent together with opportunity Now once the Theosophical Society established itself in India Blavatsky started getting positive press once more and the woman HPB had started the failed spirit society with in Cairo that we spoke of at the end of episode one She saw these articles and thought boom I'm gonna be a part of this. Okay, her name was Emma Coulomb Formerly Emma cutting and she'd fallen on hard times since her days in Cairo with HPB

Wasting a family fortune and the inheritance of a hotel and she'd done all this with her new layabout husband It this really is the wealth. These are wealthy kids. These are wealthy kids They were a fantasy they were handed a big pile of money and a highly functioning hotel on a silver platter And it was just fucking gone. They just fucked it all away. Damn Well in her letter Emma asked HPB if she had any room for her and her husband Alexis and Blavatsky Remembering how well she got along with Emma and Cairo told her to come on out if she could figure out how to make it to Bombay on Her own, so I'm not paying your way, but if you make it here. Yeah, you got a spot So while the destitute Coulomb's figured out how they were gonna make that happen

HPB and Alcott accepted an invitation from a newspaper editor named Alfred Percy Senate Who was their first contact and what was then the British ruling class in India? Okay, so you're telling me even in India the newspaper editor has a name that only belongs to newspaper Editors, yes, like even in India. It's not like an Indian name pioneer editor Alfred Percy Senate, and you were born here Is that right? Yeah Yes, I'm as Indian as this here ever which actually is now officially pretty because we own it Well this two weeks day with Senate started a run of Extraordinary demonstrations of paranormal abilities possessed by Madame Blavatsky, but of course it's all dependent and if you believe the people involved

Now as soon as Senate mentioned to HPB soon after her arrival at his home that his experiments with supernatural phenomena had not produced anything She immediately started producing knocks and wraps throughout the whole house over the next two weeks HPB even began to produce wraps on her house heads from across the room They felt a little knock knock that which they said felt like faint electric shocks Of course, these were people who already wanted to believe so take it as you will But they weren't the only witnesses to phenomena during that stay During a gathering of Sanskrit scholars one of them began to wax philosophical about the old days when yogis could pull off magical feats

such as making roses appear out of thin air right and hitting home runs and then HPB She looked into the future and she saw David Blaine whoa, maybe it's controversial, but I'm a big David Blaine fan. Yeah, I think it's amazing what he can do Yeah, I love a good illusionist sure. He's fine. He was on Oprah. He's don't let him anywhere near your fucking wife How are you pregnant right now? David Blaine starts again Well HPB replied Yogi still do that stuff and after waving her hand in front of her

It's said that a dozen roses fell from above BAM! and then that's where K. Emeryla Lagasse actually told a BAM is actually an ancient occult word Stands for B. A. M. Balthusmik Altromosiot magical nominist right now when he learned then is that ancient Sanskrit word? It does make flavors increase in food. Absolutely Then when one of the scholars asked at the end of the night if she could do it one more time So he might have a souvenir for himself. She produced a bouquet seemingly from out of nowhere There you go, buddy. Take that home with you. That's a little souvenir. Boom. You just got fucking master

Now there are definitely all sorts of explanations for how this might have been done the scholar who offhandedly mentioned the roses Might not have off-handedly mentioned it at all. He might have been a plant. I thought it was about a rose It could also be that these men were all just yes, anding themselves into a fun story from something much smaller Where a slight phenomena slowly turned into a major event with each telling of the story Something towards just HPB's character. She was a very she was a funny. She was just show woman, right? She'd know how to present this stuff. I will say it would be difficult for her to plant it because she wasn't like in her home base So if it if she did see it it was at somebody else's house So it randomly happened one of my other favorite things that HPB did was they were talking I forgot where they were

What the scenario was but one of the people she was traveling with wanted a cigarette case and asked that anybody have a cigarette case and HPB was like I will show you yes Yes, the yogi will show you and she made a bunch of signals with her hands and like you know weird little evil I thing stuff in there and then reached into her pocket and just pulled one out and handed The Mary and me the woman who writes the anti-HPB book she tells the story somewhat differently saying that HPB in Senate We're having an argument about Blavatsky performing feats under lab conditions And Blavatsky was refusing because the masters would see that as quote-unquote showing off. It's just called I'm gonna put my no fun cap on

Let's do this in a lab But me does concede that during this dinner conversation Roses did fall on the table out of what appeared to be thin air and she offers No comment on how such a feat could be accomplished. Yeah, take that you flap doodle So once again, this is not proof but when it is combined with all the other events that supposedly followed a very Interesting portrait of HPB's possible abilities begins to emerge Something's happening which at the very least proves her to be a master illusionist if nothing else Yeah, David Blaine was in that ice block for like 12 hours. Remember that even longer. It was a full weekend

He was so cold in there So cold someone should have gotten him a blanket, but it would have been kind of more fun if he died Well, he might one of these days Well on her next invitation from Senate He took HPB and four other guests out to a picnic and on the way the merry group stopped for tea But when only six cups were produced for seven guests Oh, someone in the party cheekily asked HPB. Why don't you materialize the seventh cup and the seventh saucer? Yes, hold on one second. Well, hold on one second hands up her fucking skirt

I Think I got one right. Yes. If that tea cup could talk like in Beauty and the Beast it would scream and cry They should have just done human water fountain. Yeah, one person drinks all of it It spits it out and then it goes down and trickles trickles to the others Well to their surprise she agreed and after looking around on the ground for a bit She asked one of the guests a military man named Major Henderson to dig in a specific spot He actually was an admiral his first name was major. No, I just want to say that a funny He was an admiral his first name was big

Well sure enough six inches down he found a cup matching the ones they were using According to major the soil had been unbroken as if the cup had just appeared underground And when HPB told him to dig further, what do you know found a saucer down there as well wrapped in roots? Yeah, you just got fucking master When cups are fucking everywhere, dude, you don't know where they will be my friend Wow, I guess that's how you grow a cup tree when he asked her and when he asked her how she did it She said that she couldn't say unless he was a theosophist So he again cheekily asked for a diploma. She said you shall have it hands up her fucking skirt

God I've heard of a prison purse before but that's a whole that is an entire storage unit No, she said you shall have it and almost immediately Henderson found a diploma in a bush He made out in his name. What fucking mastered. You don't know what's going on You are not real my friend. Oh Mastered all over town now admittedly Baboula HPB's man servant did later Allegedly tell someone that HPB had ordered him to bury the cup and saucer on that spot And it was HPB herself who led them to that spot

But the person who made that claim who will get to later may herself have had ulterior motives And it was a pretty impressive feat to okay one She's got to make sure that there are seven people in six cups two She's got to make sure that she's that they stop on the exact spot that she buried that cup and saucer Three she has to make it appear as if the soil is completely and totally unbroken Major Henderson dug a tunnel in the ground underneath He went underneath to see if this soil was unbroken Well, she would have had to have been a master at all sorts of illusions and subterfuge in order to pull this off

I mean she had the time and it was her career. So I wonder if she spent all those extra time. Just you know essentially Practicing yeah, but who knows Baboula though. Who knows because at some point Baboula was like Mrs. Bobotsky asked me to bury like ten cups And a lot of my time was spent Getting cups and looking at people's cupboards and seeing what cups they had a lot of it I was like, maybe we should talk about your taxes Mrs. Bobotsky. I can help I can help you with that She didn't want any of my guidance. I'm just 15

Well 15 years old and of course that means that it was two years removed from his employment with you Henry You said he was 13 years old. So at the very least he's no longer rubbing mayonnaise on your feet. Hey, man I'm raising my assistant So soon after the cup and saucer trick HPB and her posse were having dinner at the home of a person named Alan Hume When Bobotsky asked Mrs. Hume if there was anything she wished for is there anything that you have lost that you wish you had again? Uh-huh and Hume replied that there was a brooch her mother had given her But it had been lent to her daughter and lost long ago Hmm. So Bobotsky took her hand and asked her to picture the brooch in her mind and describe it

Okay, it was It was sort of like it looked like a widespread open pair of legs And the hair was kind of little brown diamonds at the very bottom of the back of it And so it sort of looked like the view from behind of a buttock It is making Thessias. It is very special and very unique to our family It's a poopy brooch Well after here in the description and even having Hume draw a picture of it

It wasn't just that she had the description. She had a picture of the brooch HPB took two cigarette papers and wrapped them around a coin attached to her watch chain and put the bundle in the pocket of her dress After dinner HPB checked her pocket and said, oh, the papers are gone. Mrs. Hume if you would Go out to the garden look in the star-shaped flower bed and there you shall find your brooch What well, okay Outside right immediately and there it is. Oh my god my poopy Yeah, sure enough it was there exactly as Mrs. Hume had described and It was wrapped in the cigarette papers that HPB had wrapped them in or at least it was wrapped into some cigarette paper

All right, the whole family just thought we'd go like Absolutely incredible now skeptics point out that HPB had met Mrs. Hume's daughter earlier that year in Bombay And she might have been given the brooch then but the daughter denied giving Bovatsky the brooch And it's hard to explain why the daughter would have given a family heirloom to a complete stranger on the off chance that she might Have contact with her mother and might have reason to fool her pull a humbug. It's real strange We're just why it's just we're doing a lot of walk around To say that yes, I mean sure I guess if she planned this Fucking a year

Earlier than yes, but it doesn't seem like HPB if from every other description of her She doesn't seem to have a great eye for detail No, I don't think she did I think she was fairly impulsive and she was a she was a scatterbrain That's the way they talked about her was that she was all over the place and the idea of like putting together this amount of Of of just pre-planning these illusions. I don't know who knows well Mary and meed claims that the brooch was never lost and that mr. Hume had actually ponded for cash and HPB Scooped it up and then of course pulled the ruse later

But that again takes multiple levels of knowledge groundwork and coercion to make it happen the way it did She had to know that the brooch belonged to the Humes She had to know that mr. Hume sold it and didn't want his wife to know mr. Hume would have had to keep quiet about the whole fucking thing because if mr. Hume came out and said Man, yeah, I sold that to the pawn shop And she must have just bought that and brought it in Hume was a very a highly influential figure in India in the British ruling class It would have ruined her entire fucking rep yep reputation to take a risk that big I am just so happy that a tale as old as time as husband's pawning things behind their wife's back to try to make some money

That is just amazing that there's still pawn shops Well, I mean what a good scam that is is that eat the husband sold the brooch You picked it up to go fucking you're gonna fool this whole family You're gonna do all of the shit Maybe you're super excited for it and just a look on mr. Hume's face as she's like and the brooch is right here What an incredible day Well interestingly despite this being one of the most famous Madame Blavatsky stories This is the one that people tell to kind of illustrate Madame Blavatsky's powers

Mary and Meade she rushes through it and says maybe this happened maybe that happened where every other Supposed fraud is picked apart piece by piece by piece. She can't explain this one except through Circumstantial accusations Interesting Mary me don't like HPB. Well, I mean but without Skeptics you don't have you don't got a wizard. You got to have your skeptics. What does that mean? If you do not if you don't have any pushback, then you don't have any sympathy coming from your supporters being like Well, they are trying to take you down. Everyone has to be the underdog of their own story

That's the only way you come across as a winner. Hmm. Hmm. Or they celebrate your winning anyway Which is why I lost yesterday at a small competition show and I won And I won But the final act of paranormal phenomena when it came to impressing the British ruling class was the one that might have pushed Blavatsky from legitimate phenomena into the world of out-and-out Fraud oh yeah, man You because you got you constantly have to top yourself, right? Mm-hmm Every single time you do something you have to come up with another way to come up on top

It's getting harder and harder for her to figure out like well, how do I really blow their minds now? Yeah, and that is why a little movie Recommendation, it's a documentary the house in between. They it's nothing too special. Mm-hmm You just see a baseball, but that makes it seem very real to me because they do not go crazy with it I get it man. Well, Blavatsky told Alfred Senate that the big master Koot, who me had asked her to inquire after where and when the Senate's would like their personal proof that Koot existed Mrs. Senate then pointed to a cushion on their couch and said we want it here and now I Suggest you go and smell that cushion Someone not too far from now has farted

So when Senate cut the cushion open Mrs. Senate's broach different broach different woman, okay was waiting inside with the initials k h and Scribed on the back. Wow It also included a note that read thus My dear brother This bird's number two is placed in this very strange place Simply to show you how very easily a real phenomenon is produced. All right, Koot Yeah, Koot's doing it man. Yeah, Koot is kind of Koot's doing a little harder than he needs to

You know and so with this first communication Senate asked if he could write a reply to the masters using Blavatsky as a middleman and And madam Blavatsky said of course you can and that promise was the beginning of the end for HPB's Credibility. Ah, she flew too close to the Sun. She went too far with it. Well now. She's got to be the master, right? She's I in a way whatever Communications she's having with the other side has really been a one-on-one thing and you notice up until now mostly She's like I do the communicating y'all do the listening and the learning and so she could Hide her secrets. This was a thing that I think that if she had just

Sat and really thought about what she was doing where it's like the secret schools were secret for a reason It's because some of the machinations have to be hidden for the power of the message to be fully delivered Now she's showing you how the the occult sausage is getting made. She is a she's bringing you in a step closer Which is gonna shut like she's not gonna be able to cash them checks. Yeah, mm-hmm Now I'm not gonna speak for Henry here But I'm pretty sure that the masters as HPB knew them were simply characters She created a way for a woman in the late 19th century to be taken seriously by men. I'm pretty much with you Yeah, I just think that she had she did have teachers

Yeah, of course and that she used the images of those teachers as her masters as Short-hand occult shorthand and the same thing the idea is that because no one would believe anything coming from the mouth of a Woman at the time. Yeah, but if she says koot. Who me told me this then they're like, oh Very good. Oh, yeah, you always got to trust a koot Anybody who has a name that rhymes with hoot. Yes indeed So when Senate asked for communication Blavatsky most likely not only wrote the letters But she for some reason decided that these letters needed to be delivered in a way that appeared magical and the person

Who made it possible was Emma Coulomb. I would call you say a fraud, right? And you say that Emma Coulomb and and her were they were Shifter they were shysters and they were con people, but I also I'd use the term imagineers At Disney they apologize if you see their construction. They don't want you to see their pixie dust They just want you to be just enthralled by just how much money you can spend within 25 minutes for magic It is illegal for Daffy duck or Mickey Mouse or Minnie Mouse or any of those characters to take their masks off If they do they get in big trouble. It's all done. Yeah, it's done. I don't know if it's illegal. It's illegal No, it's not a lead they're not gonna go to prison. No, they're gonna Disney prison

No, that is 100% true. We don't know we don't know the pedophile ring underneath that got center We don't know we don't know It's terrible down there. Well, Emma and her husband Alexis finally arrived in Bombay and even though Blavatsky had totally forgotten that she'd invited them She welcomed him with open arms She's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Now now I remember and she gave them the bedroom above Henry's office in the Theosophical Society Okay Now the way these two people are described they sound like they showed up on the Theosophical Society's doorstep and absolute Shambles like a fucking like like a couple of Frankenstein monsters

after years of poverty the Coulombs were haggard amiciated and Petually grim these are rich kids who have been poor now for a long time and do not know how to be poor Oh, is it not as fun as you thought it would be? It's not fantasy Island Yeah, they had the cross punk experience that have like families and like you that have money and then they just want to go They go and vacation on the streets. Yeah, except for going to St. Mark's place. They went to India Alexis had lost one of his eyes Somehow and had it replaced with a glass one

And hey man, you know many times I leave a cup of coffee on the roof of my car sure and his pasty complexion prematurely wrinkled face and black beard only made his surliness all that more pronounced Nevertheless Emma was made the Theosophical Society's housekeeper while Alexis became the handyman They put him where they could and since the Coulombs owed Blavatsky for taking them in she thought she could trust them With the fraud that ruined her reputation No, you can't do that No, no, no, you need to get you need to vet these people man before you let him in on the fraud Well, she thought she had vetted Emma because Emma was with her in Cairo and Cairo if you'll remember

Was fraudulent they were fake and shit with the spiritual assayances So she thought she could treat and she thought she could trust the problem with trusting people during a Doing that illegal activity or fraud because they're by nature not trustworthy people. You never know when they're gonna flip Exactly, you got to watch oceans 11. I think if she really if she had seen oceans 11 She'd know that sometimes Friends and rogues or sometimes not friends indeed. Yeah. Yeah, that's very true Well soon after the Coulombs arrived Blavatsky asked Emma to saw a hole in the floor for room and Emma did as she was told and

Cut a hole large enough to slip her hand down to the ceiling cloth Ceiling cloth was used in India to prevent death from above by way of spider Christ That was not on the Zillow profile when I was moving into this home Death by spider you say Blavatsky then told Emma to cut a slit in the cloth wide enough to slip an envelope through and thus they made a way to make it appear as if the Letters from Koot homie to people like Alfred Senate materialized out of what Blavatsky called Astral special delivery, but it's so much more fun than the U.S. Postal service

Like the idea. It's like eating at Jekyll and hides Do you remember how horrible that food was but sometimes shit would just talk and you're like this is fun as hell Jekyll and hide a restaurant and theater Here in New York City all of those raiders got sag cards because they were technically acting They were getting paid to perform, but I was to be quite mean They were sometimes mean they did say mean things to you, but they thought it was funny But actually it was their contempt was showing. Yes Well, the reason why Blavatsky did this is because yeah

I mean there's not a whole lot of mystique in a letter being delivered by the mailman from master Koot homie Absolutely not. I get it make the mailman. We're a skeleton So fun is that skeleton mail? Yeah, so I mean and I don't know I really don't it quite possibly it could be another yes And conversation, you know where you know Senate's talking to madam Blavatsky and he's like well How would such a master be able to deliver such a communication and she would reply with something like I Rolls special delivery delivery. Yeah, I love it, but then Emma's is like

Okay, my I like her she a thug from Sherlock Holmes They were haggard people man. They were vagabond. I just imagine her just like that like Slinking like it's like all right now couple hole in the floor here. I'm not with this is how these mechanisms will go and she didn't heard just go like Cut a hole our way and cut a whole rug will all gain. Oh Thomas see again. You're like, what are you mumbling Emma? Nothing? She's working with Moriarty

Well over the next three years Blavatsky would deliver a hundred and twenty letters to Senate and other members of the British ruling class Writing everything from esoteric instruction to commands that they must as always be patient with madam Blavatsky Gotta be it's important. That's what I've been to I wish I had a way to Tell my family to be patient with yeah Yeah, but no matter how what came to be known as the Mahatma letters made their way to their intended recipients The content contained therein was the beginnings of what would eventually become madam Blavatsky's most well-known work the secret doctrine We finally got there that would be the hardest book to read in a world No, no, no, no, we were still like an hour from secret doctrine time. No

This is just the seeds okay like the the secret doctrine grows from the Mahatma letters like there the Mahatma letters are like the first draft of The secret doctrine now there is a strain of misogyny present throughout these letters which Mary and me takes as evidence that Blavatsky Hated all women and thought that they were insipid beasts without the power of concentration necessary to become true occultists And it's also throws the scent off a HPB so because though all of these letters are like H She obviously cannot handle these things on her own like saying all these things from outside of her perspective to basically say Like I couldn't possibly be writing these letters He said that I he said that my breasts look like two hogs with costume masks upon them That's right. That's why if I ever have to write a letter to the police after committing

I mean, I don't know maybe a bank robbery. The first sentence is don't know about you, but I hate Taco Bell I don't order it when I'm sad or happy. I don't order it late at night or early in the morning. I hate Taco Bell Well, she was playing new her audience most likely Yeah, I mean she had working relationships with multiple women throughout her life and after her death that Theosophy Society Became a female dominated organization at the highest levels. It was hand She handed the baton to other women most and she would as Henry said she would tear herself down in these letters She would roast herself and most likely she was doing this to get these high society dickheads on her side, right? She needed their money. She needed their class

She needed their position especially in India because she had a connection to the common people But she also needed a connection to the up top people. That's kind of like what she was trying to do is bring these all together Because also again, you remember the main goal of this whole thing is to set up Theosophy Hardcore in India as her the new location of where she would be in charge or secretly in charge in the background So she's trying to get as much as she can going but she's biting off more of the shake of show That's right. So she's a little bit what mother Teresa was to Catholicism to spirituality. Is that is that with the sense? I'm getting here. If she was she a woman of the people somewhat

Mindwalk hang hanging out with people. I mean she was apparently very charitable like that She was stories are told again and again of you know her charitable works. She's better than mother Teresa She's better than she's better than she doesn't believe that suffering brings you closer to God. No Well, her shit too was that she she liked to think that she was in connection with the common people She liked it. She liked the feeling of it again. She's she came from money She had a whole idea. This was very exotic to her being like poor and on the road Well, all caught he was connected to the people like all caught actually a very briefly became like a national hero in India He became a national celebrity because he apparently had the powers to heal people with fucking magnetism

And he apparently like would the Indian people would just line up and he would lay his hands on them and they'd feel fucking great People use magnets all the time people have those magnet wrist watches and all that shit. I don't know what it does nothing It does nothing. It's all psychosomatic, but he got a good reputation for I mean, it makes it it makes it easier to open the fridge Well, her efforts absolutely worked Alfred Senate, he became such a loud proponent of Madame Blavatsky that the owners of the newspaper Well, he was editor they warned him to cool it. They're like dude settle down. Wow when he didn't they fucking fired him. Yep Now this wasn't necessarily the beginning of the end for Blavatsky, but long-standing relationships were starting to fray Particularly Blavatsky's relationship with Henry Steele all caught. Oh, no It seems to be the work balance of the two

seem to be off for many many decades where Henry Steele all caught did everything and Blavatsky was you know, she was fun She she wrote a lot and she smoked a lot and everybody liked her and she can make things knock and cups move around shit But all caught really was doing a lot of the heavy lifting all caught was doing all of the heavy lifting But all caught was running the Theosophical Society. He was running the whole fucking operation Blavatsky just sort of showed up It seems like what broke up. Okay, see a few years ago with the Thunder Russell Westbrook Kevin Durant They were like not getting they were they couldn't split the credit. Ah, and now we got this guy who was doing its basketball You're gonna store back. It's a man. It's basically a national past. It was an international sport that has billions of followers

You talk about Dune like Frank Herbert was a genius But but he's got his own side also going he's got people lined up to meet him Why does he care anymore? He's doing pretty good and he wanted to take a trip to Salon He wanted to go to Sri Lanka But Blavatsky knowing that she couldn't run the Theosophical Society in his absence or most likely being unwilling to even fucking try to Run this Theosophical Society in his absence told him that the masters forbade it and if he went to Salon He'd never speak to a master again

Now according to all cuts journals the shine on Blavatsky had started to fade a little once they'd arrived in India Is Blavatsky to me Blavatsky and all cuts relationship like they were great friends in New York City Like they had a fucking great time with each other in New York City where they met going on a road trips a different story all together Yes, it is well especially because she was she was bad at it She's bad at traveling bad at traveling and she and she was sour and they did not and I don't know if I don't think maybe All caught wasn't an angel either. I don't know what he was expecting going to India But it brought out bad parts of their relationship. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you got to know if someone's a good traveler or not Yeah, yeah, she's she was it. Well, I mean she was a good traveler probably when she was younger

But at this point she's got fucking horrible health problems, right? She's got really bad health problems And she's also like Henry said just fucking sour just kind of a difficult person to deal with right So when Blavatsky threatened to take away the masters all caught said fine do it I don't even care anymore, but can take him away and he went to say long He well, he's not gonna get any masters Does he know that well, yeah, does he know that see if you call my bluff so sad for yeah But when he got back

Blavatsky welcomed him as if nothing had happened. He called her bluff and she blinked. Oh my god As such She lost all cuts respect for not following through and he wrote that after that He did not love or price her any less as a friend or teacher, but the idea of her infallibility The juice that kept him unquestioningly loyal was gone for ever damn And she didn't realize how much he protected her yeah, and how much he covered for her and what what she did because the very complicated relationship between the aspiring occultist and the

The one who is in touch with the ascended masters the touched one right like this idea of that's the font of knowledge HPB is where is the wellspring of the the true inspiration that built all of this other stuff so now you're watching somebody who She popped that bubble and now you're sitting there me like how do I believe that you're a pure like mouthpiece For the ether where and because now I see like I can bluff you like I can write you I can manipulate you yeah, he protected her a lot like he kept the wolves at bay And then when he sort of backed off a little bit the attacks started coming from all sides first

It was the Indian spiritual leaders one Swami printed pamphlets calling HPB and all caught Atheists liars and selfish persons Then her former friends started coming after Alan Hume He of the brooch turned on HPB and called her quote crude unenlightened and beneath the criticism of real scholars Yeah, I don't trust anyone who pawned a family heirloom But I will say that's what they said about us and Tom Green Hey My bum is on my bum is on the ship. I love it. Love them. Love them. Absolutely

The bread yeah, no him making the putting the statue of his parents having sex with each other on their front lawn is the best prank ever pulled It was quite funny, we didn't have the internet when we were growing up. We just had MTV But even people in the Theosophical Society turned on her the president of the British TS Called her out as a fraud when she reversed her stance on reincarnation due to what she learned during her time in India See an Isis and unveiled which she had written before India She'd written that abortions dead infants and quote-unquote incurable idiots were not eligible for reincarnation So this would be this would be like if Bill Maher put a make America great again hat on She's she's losing her base. She's losing. Yeah, she's changing too much

Yeah, she's flip-flopping and then once after India She said nobody's exempted and this was apparently Unforgivable to some of her followers. They hated it. She created a monster, man Well, you saw the letters I sent you about people talking about the math of how it was physically impossible for Blavatsky to smoke a pound of tobacco and the way they broke down the Graham Time that would take so yeah, there are nitpickers out there. Yeah, the different kinds of tobacco that were available in 1880 what she's smoking Russian tobacco, which was a little bit stronger than regular American tobacco and actually the Russians are very interesting because

There were some of the first people I respect it. I respect their hobbies. They didn't spend everybody's got a thing Absolutely. Well after that her health began to fail even more in addition to the dropsy. She was also diagnosed with brights disease Which is a malady of the kidneys that resulted in what was then called bags Allah kangaroo All over her body. Well, guess what they weren't filled with cute little joeys They were filled with horrid to tumorous Skin meat. I don't know Bryce disease is still around but people still die from Bryce disease bags Allah kangaroo That sounds like an appetizer. That sounds like something you get it in an Australian restaurant

I'm gonna see I'm just gonna look at it and see what it does. No does no one's shown any pictures of it Oh, it's just a picture of a beautiful woman going Oh, yeah, sounds right. So she's got a lot of cute sounding diseases Horrible to the body brights disease drop see drop see Yeah, it's cute drop sees sound like cute little like Like sugar candies. Yeah when your fucking legs give up being solid drop She also kind of sounds like the great-great-grandfather of Banksy, but he would just leave dumps in public Streets

Drop see strikes again In other words, it was all starting to fall apart. Damn. So anyone in her corner anymore kind of sort Yeah, I mean, there's still plenty of theosophists that are still in her corner It all cuts not out of her corner like all cuts still prizes her as a friend still prizes her as a teacher But she's no longer infallible. I see like she has it like it's you know, he's a pastor who's lost his faith That's oh my god. I just finally found a picture of it. You're just your eye. You look like your face turns into a big clip So to kind of bring things back she needed something juicier than the letters So she had a Lexus coulomb

Construct what came to be known as the occult room in her new house in the Bombay suburbs Cool the main feature of the occult room was a cedarwood cupboard that Blavatsky told people was a direct line to the masters Where the masters could send larger objects much more impressive than mere letters Yeah, like it nowadays if you'd open it up and see Kevin Spacey in there Masterclass and then what he could have sent through the cupboard all those boys Plenty of room. Yep. I think most of those boys have now committed suicide In reality The cupboard was a trick box attached to a wall that had a hole leading to the next room on the other side

And it had three sliding panels in the back invisible to the casual observer, which made the swapping of objects Easily done. Dude, that's it's like the movie candy man. Yeah when they take out the frickin The mirror in the in the in the bathroom a lot like that except it had like a full-on false back So if like you looked at it and you knocked on it like it sounded solid But you know she could close the doors you could put an object in there and say, you know, okay We're gonna put something in there and the masters are gonna get us something back So she puts something in there whoever was on the other side usually a Lexus or Emma They would open up the panel put whatever HPB asked for in the fucking cupboard and then close it

And then she'd open it up and say like ah the masters have brought you this Do you think that Henry ever put his cock and balls in there? Yeah, every once in a while, I think that they may be tried it But all of this was real for people he wasn't I don't know how much he was brought in for in terms of the scam side I think that he was this like he'd sit for this he was not he was so he was not he was not brought it He was not brought in on the occult room at all But he also I imagine as a learned man You also know that there's a little bit of flim flamery going on and now what this begins the point of

Let's see where she's going with this because this is very classic illusionist trick This is yeah, this is the most classic like trick door behind a cupboard like this is just what happens So it just seems to be it's highly interesting. It would in my mind if I sat in that room I know that that's a trick. Yeah, but I also am a Modern human being right But just as she was getting this fraud up and running her health got even worse and her doctor suggested Perhaps the air in India is bad the air I don't think the air has anything to do with it

Well, there's certain there's certain maladies or like if you have tuberculosis if you have tuberculosis you go to a drier climate You know, yeah, but she's got bright and dropsy God knows I mean it didn't seem like nothing was doing well for her I just had a lot to do with her diet and lifestyle. Yeah, maybe the smoking. Mm-hmm But the doctor told her it'd probably be best if you packed up and left for London But as plans were being drafted for HPB to leave India Emma Coulomb supposedly started having second thoughts about all the Deceptions she'd been a party to over the previous three years. Oh, come on See as long as they were in India

She claimed she didn't care because she said they were only fooling Hindus who believed in miracles already Even though the biggest humbug she helped perform were on the ruling class Just come on but from what Emma said now that HPB was off to Europe Blavatsky would now be fooling good Upstanding Europeans in their homelands and that was not something she could stand by and let happen. I've been to Europe. They're not Upstanding You got a bit of a crook back Honestly, yeah, and Europeans there a lot of times they're sitting down smoking having a coffee enjoying their lives That's what they're doing, but I think she's full shit

Yeah That's what she claims in reality. It seemed like her motivation was far simpler Emma was broke Behold the HPB and she very simply wanted that cash money And she did try borrowing 2000 rupees from an Indian prince to get out on her own But when HPB found out about the deal just before leaving for Europe She was mortified and furious that one of her people was asking for money She put the kibosh on the whole thing and supposedly as HPB sailed away Emma told the person next to her quote I shall be revenged on your mistress for preventing me from getting my

2000 rupees Damn you sound like a scary dude Thank you But I you know because that's the thing if HPB if she just wasn't such a controlling Person mm-hmm. If she had just let her go I'd have been like, okay, you want to go go because you got to keep things to cope with that Especially if she's a part of the fraud She's the main thread of the fraud you need to keep her in play and figure out how to do that, but HPB

She wanted it. She wanted all of it too much. She wanted her cake and eat it too She wanted the bakery and she wanted all the flour, right? That's one of HPB's biggest problems is that she always wants it both ways and she you know when it comes to opinions when it comes to a Lot of shit. She tries having it both ways and that's exactly when things blow up in her fucking face I gotta say I hate the phrase. They wanted their cake and eat it too. Are you just supposed to stare at it? I don't understand where we've already we've already had this discussion. How many years ago was that I? Think it was in the unabomber case, and I think that was eight years ago We've had it again since I remember having this case this discussion with you both on air and off. I will never apologize for not changing

What it means that you want to be able to have your cake and also eat it Because if you eat if you eat the cake you don't have it anymore And you want to be able to have the cake I'm gonna go listen to the unabomber episode and try to figure out how you don't understand this It doesn't make sense if you don't if you eat the cake you don't have it anymore. You don't have it anymore Want your cake shit if you want to have your cake and eat it too. That is an impossible proposition Proposition because those are two different those are two different states in which these things cannot exist if there was only one fucking cake in the World, but there are multiple cakes. I

It is allegory allegory, and this is why I'll let you into my secret school You are abominably literal my friend. All right, I got it. I get it people like cake No, Bovatsky, not so smartly left. I'm letting it go. No, Bovatsky, not so smartly doesn't sound like you're stewed No, Bovatsky, not so smartly left India without instructing Emma and Alexis to tear down the fraudulent apparatus Oh, it was a bad move and Emma soon revealed to the board of control left in charge The Bovatsky was a fraud and her next stop was the newspapers Now they did attempt to pay her off with the exact same amount HPB had prevented her from borrowing But by this time it was a matter of revenge and Emma said she was finally gonna lay the truth of HPB bear for all the world to see

Damn dude fucking watch who is your fucking main Damien this shit. It became personal right now When it comes to the two sources up for this series the writers not surprisingly take completely opposite opinions when it comes to Emma Coulomb Mead takes everything she said from the accusations of fraud to later airings of dirty laundry as Absolute fact and reports it as such like you know in the in the first two episodes like when we say it's like well me Mead says this all that shit comes from Emma Coulomb all that shit comes from things that Emma Coulomb said you know anti HPB pamphlets Anti-HPB articles like all that comes from Emma Coulomb. She said Emma Coulomb said HPB told me this This is what HPB told me. She was her confidant for years This is what she told me and Mead takes that as fact, but she's also she's also a fraudster. Yeah, can't trust us

Lockman takes a much more skeptical stance on Emma Coulomb saying that all of this came about because HPB spoiled the loan deal and Because HPB didn't put Emma Coulomb on the board of control when she left You got to just take care of your scammers God take care of your fellow scammers You really want him you got to toss him you want somebody to keep your secrets you got to toss some tips You got to toss him some money. You got to keep them in play I think that we're looking at you're a solid a little bit of one and a little bit of the other Yeah, as it always is there's with all with this whole story where Emma Coulomb

She was Massively made bitter by her arrangement with HPB was given the most devastating Secrets about her and it just comes to a point where you have somebody who you decided It's going to only have a certain amount of money and you're going to let them you're going to let them have a certain amount of money They're going to decide well, then maybe I'll just take it Maybe I'll just take whatever I can and in the meantime I here's an extra fuck you because I spent how long dragging my ass to Bombay to work for you and do all of this stuff And now you're going to tell me to go fuck myself. Mm-hmm. I don't tip a bartender for the service

I don't tip him for the beer. I tip him to keep the secrets. I tell him Well, I mean she took it and she didn't and she didn't take advantage or she took her for grand You know like she totally completely took Emma Coulomb for granted, you know, and it's arrogance It's full-on arrogance where it's like, oh Emma Emma's not going to say anything about me. Emma's not going to take me down It's just Emma Emma. Yeah, I'm too powerful Emma is my servant She does what I need you all of this is in the service of the of the masters and in the message It's not about these paltly little tricks How do I that's what the Sikhs told me that are all of this stuff is paltry tricks

So who gives a fuck if I just make it up? I will make it up because in the end the message is what's supposed to matter But unfortunately we live in the real world I know that we we want to believe that we live in a world of shadows that that none of this is real and that our world is a Construct of various consciousness, maybe with the all-knowing Venus behind us But besides that but until you get to there you could still get your ass fucking sued Yeah Yeah Well Emma was pretty heavy on the extortion going back and forth with the board of controls with demands that got ever higher

Until finally she declared she would take no less than ten thousand rupees for her silence Meanwhile back in London Blavatsky was getting her feet put to the fire by the Society for Psychical Research Who had decided to do a full investigation into the well-known occult figure that madam Blavatsky now was oh my goodness The smell that must have come with her feet to the fire These are the people like these are the these are the guys that were they were the finest occult minds of their time the finest Researchers this is when you know the paranormal was starting to go into science a little bit where it's starting to be a little bit like Let's look at the paranormal from a scientific perspective and see if we can figure something out

Not necessarily saying like all this stuff is real like let's see what let's look at this scientifically and see what we can figure out And Brandon Blavatsky was top on their fucking list was like she makes a lot of claims a lot of people are making a lot of claims Let's see what this woman's all about And when all caught was questioned. He was pretty open about everything. He told him about the masters He told him about all of his fucking that dealings with the masters. He told him about all of her powers What is he doing? Well because his whole thing is that to him it was kind of real Yeah, he saw all this other shit. So he wasn't really in on the other side as far as we know He wasn't a part of all the planning so in his mind

He saw a bunch of shit and he's like no I want to tell everybody that about the purity of the word and It was fucking too late man. She needed her She needed a Cato Kalin in her corner and she didn't have one. Well, no, I mean all caught I thought was I think all Caught was doing the right thing. So he was he believed all of that was true He believed all it was treat He did not tell them about her fraud like he's talking about like yeah You guys like if we get the Society for Psychical Research on our side then we're gonna be in the money like at least Respect wise like we're gonna be like we're gonna get the respect we deserve people are gonna believe us finally

but Him being so open pissed Blavatsky off so much that while she was in the middle of berating him around our four He said quote What do you want me to do? Do you want me to commit suicide? What? She got pretty angry with him. She she destroyed him. She went right at him and just ripped him a new one Just go back to your kids. Just go back to your go back and hang out with the kids see if see if you can apologize a bit well Blavatsky was also angry with Alfred Senate because he had gone off on his own and published two books talking about the masters by name in

Such a casual way that in her words Nowadays people call their dogs and cats by the name of coot. Who me? It's a dog's name It isn't it is a fun name. Who does he dog's name a cute get up get off her leg? Well, this is but she that's where she's a fucking hypocrite where she was the one that opened this fucking box to begin with She started bringing people closer to the masters. They were never supposed to be this close to actual physical reality They were supposed to say you're supposed to stay like a psychic spiritual projection Mm-hmm, but the worst was still to come After Emma's demands were not met

She made her play and teamed up with some Christian missionaries who were all too willing to help take down Madame Blavatsky Oh, we're just here straight is spreading the plague, but what was this? Oh, we have a side quest sure They published an article called the collapse of coot. Who me which tore Blavatsky to shreds and featured letters Allegedly written from Blavatsky to Coulomb outlining how to do each scam Why they did each scam and who they were scamming don't put it in print. Yeah, but that's where I think it's horseshit I don't think that she actually wrote those letters I think that a lot of those things were fabricated, but I think that they were probably pretty close to what they were planning Mm-hmm besides the spirit letters and the occult room scams

It even outlawed a scam in which Alexis would place a straw dummy on his shoulders and run by Blavatsky's house Blavatsky could say Was that a guy with a Good looking a guy that had a bunch of wicker on top and he was kind of running all weird. That's my buddy Okay, he's two guys But perhaps the worst revelation from Blavatsky's perspective was a letter Absolutely roasting Henry steel all-cott for ultimately being a gullible fool Since the New York days. Oh, and it fucking broke all-cots heart. He's just like a little he's like flounder from a little mermaid

He's a good guy. Yeah trying to find love. He's a good guy. He just got fucking He got got yeah And without all-cots unwavering support Blavatsky Entertained the notion of possibly faking her own death so she could reappear years later when everything had calmed down But with her health and rapid decline Such shenanigans weren't feasible. She was like, what if I just die? Yeah, what if I really do it and things were looking dire back in India as well When the occult room cabinet was examined by the TS and a member boldly banged on the back claiming, this is solid a

Spring snapped and the secret panel went flying And then they knocked on the wall and really oh fuck someone just plastered over a big fucking hole here like Feel it it makes me cringe Just like being in the room It's just you just a thing flying open and that poor guy covered in wood jewelry and you know like dressed all Indian like so Excited to finally be at the center of Theosophy, and then it's like oh shit Anytime your your plan gets spoiled by a spring Popping out you're like this is this is comically bad

Now despite the discovery of the occult room humbug Blavatsky held on to many of her followers and even gained a few new ones But this had more to do with the strength of Theosophy than the powers of madham Blavatsky Theosophy was still a solid philosophy for living your life. You know it was fun. Sure However, there were some who went whole hog with following her still when she returned to India to deal with the Coulombs She brought a man named Charles led better and to test his loyalty She made him carry her full chamber pot across the main passenger deck on open seas And he did it. Yeah, it's like that video game death stranding. He had to live it in real life

He had to do it cw led better. He wrote the astral plane, which I talked about during chef the talking mongus and he went We're still bringing him up and he went to cw led better and she kindly called him wc led better It's a bit of bathroom humor for you That really steams my engines Now what's hpb arrived back in india she eventually decided to not take legal action against the Coulombs Because that's exactly what the Coulombs wanted. Yeah, the last thing she wants to do is go under oath Yeah, because as she went to court

You're gonna call kut humi to the stand And blavatsky Didn't want that you could just wait a second is that ted dancin and turban. Wow Oh, that is highly controversial all the pictures of it. It's like, uh-oh Well another disappointment came when the society for psychical research published their findings about hpb saying she was quote one of the most accomplished ingenious and interesting imposters in history And most likely a russian spy

What that's where russian spy That's where it fucking kind of went off the rails where they they they went after all their scams But then it turned into a massive thing about how she was a russian spy, which is the one thing that was it true about her Yeah, she didn't have what you'd call the temperament of a spy No It discredited the whole thing anyone who had five minutes contact with I was like, she's not a fucking spy You kidding me?

Amazingly in 1986 over a hundred years later the society for psychical research issued a retraction On the madame blavatsky story saying that the investigator way back when had used trivial evidence to condemn hpb And he had ignored all evidence in her favor But it's a thing is that the uh, society for psychical research did not have The spirit box evidence nor did they have the spirit letter evidence? No by then they'll by then all those were destroyed Okay Yeah, as soon as the spring, uh popped off of the spirit box We're like take it out to the edge of town and fucking burn it smart. I didn't get this the fuck out of here

Fix this all this shit like literally had to go in redo the ceiling redo the walls being like this What is just this shit needs to be locked up? Yeah, we are the holy shit guys Needed to chainy here. This is bad very bad Yeah, I actually blavatsky made peace with the whole debacle She said that it was better if the masters were made out to be myths mostly because their names had been Desecrated anyway by people like alfred senate It seemed as if blavatsky was all set to give up and die

But then she claimed that master moria appeared to her in the night and gave her a choice Either die now and rest Or hold on for a few more years To write the secret doctrine Oh Cool Now we're in the secret doctrine. Oh my goodness. It's when it gets impossible to understand We're gonna do our best. We're gonna do our absolute best to try to get through this

And so hpb whose health was getting steadily worse after returning to india Left forever and landed back in europe in 1885 to well and truly bear down on what would be her most influential work for good or ill Hmm. It's amazing that the most influential work has come so late in her life. Yes at the end of a rife I actually think that that's kind of appropriate because it's a year's worth of her lessons and the stuff that she's absorbed And now this was what she was been promising. Yeah, right, right Now the secret doctrine is in a word confusing

Hmm to give you an idea Here is a short excerpt Of the seven elements first one manifested six concealed two manifested five concealed Three manifested four concealed four produced three hidden four in one fraction revealed two and one half concealed Six to be manifested one later side. Lastly seven small wheels revolving one giving birth to the other Funny it's supposed to be funny Uh, hey ma'am ma'am. So are the cups at the store? You don't just go get what i'm teaching you This is not about the cup

Oh, okay Well from what people who edited the book said it was actually Yeah, they said it was more of a mess than isis unveiled was when she first wrote that It was completely without structure arrangement and dealing with her was so awful that her editor Literally tore his own hair out in the process The book which clocked in at two volumes and 1500 pages took three years to write And doctors said that there was absolutely No reason why this woman with brights disease

Dropsy a diet of buttered eggs and the equivalent of a two pack a day habit Should have lived long enough to accomplish it spite Yep spite And she was not by reports pleasant to be around during those three years She was called disrespectful Contemptuous paranoid crude condescending angry vindictive and abusive by multiple people She would have been a great podcast host. I think you mean fucking awake I mean fucking awful to be around for friends and family. Yeah, she's

Whatever But even though she was a terror she still wrote the damn thing And what we're left with is at the very least a highly interesting set of ideas some good some very bad Okay, but still those ideas partially influenced the course of the 20th century Now critics say that the secret doctrine was plagiarized from somewhere around 20 different works But as we said, this is how occult knowledge comes to be Many sources are synthesized into one new idea and that's what plavatsky was doing. It's an amalgamation Yes, it's a in a repackaging because you have to we learned about occultism and how to read things occult ways you you apply lenses

To material to see different aspects of it But she says it in the intro straight up that this is not my original these are not my original ideas It is my original sequencing of ideas very open about it saying that all the major religions all come from a single source Something that she touched on an ice sun veiled And but it comes as no surprise. She says hinduism and buddhism. They come the closest to hitting the mark, but Every old religion is only a chapter of the entire volume the universal esoteric language aka the seven keys So there's no cup Just go get yourself a goddamn cup from the kitchen

So that's what I've been asking an occultism particularly the secret doctrine was all those things put together the full secret as it were Basically it is the accumulated wisdom of the ages a record that had been orally passed down through thousands of generations of seers Blavatsky claimed that she was next in line Except she was the first to think to write it down Sell it bro. She learned how to beat That's where that's where she's truly american. That's great. That's very good The secret doctrine is really an alternate history of mankind and the origins of the universe An allegorical and meditative way of explaining both the big bang and evolution while also being a conversation about the evolution of the human soul

Well, the birth of the universe is not it is again It is a macrocosm of the birth of the individual soul All of this it's explained again and again. It's as above so below But for 1500 pages or 700 of those 1500 pages. I'll say that Right. Well, I think it's safe to say she's taking works from others and putting them down on paper very similar to what robbie robertson did with the band It's all leave on help. All those stories are leave on stories But robbie wrote him down and that's why he got all the money made him in a song Now as far as the origins of the universe part goes it's pretty much incomprehensible great, but at the same time

It's also written in such a way It makes everything sound fantastically important everything Here's another example talking about I think the starting point of consciousness. I think that's what this is about It is the root that never dies The three tongue flame of the four wicks the wicks are the sparks The draw from the three tongue flames shot out by the seven their flame the beams and sparks of one moon Reflected in the running waves of all the rivers of the earth It sounds cool and that folks is how you make a pipe bomb

But the she talks about I mean the the eternal spark is a thing that comes up quite a bit They're all synthesized from a group of essentially Fake books called the the Dyson stanzas that she called that that that was the tone of the ancients That she was transcribing which also was a fake version Of her talking about her getting her hands on a hold of a bunch of old books about esoteric buddhism And bringing them into modern times, but she also yeah, she made up all the shit She made up the language it was in it was all there was a lot of fakery inside of it But you know, it's it's also genius in the spiritual world

I was forced to read the bible growing up and it's not that far off It has to be sort of wide strokes. It's it's supposed to be interpretive And I mean the bible is basically just an ancestry.com Um, it's just telling who is related to who half the goddamn time But I mean, it's not that off base. I mean honestly, what are what are the wicks? What are the candles? I can see someone Overthinking it. You can waste a lot of time doing that And to possibly extrapolate upon the wicks and the sparks and the three-tongue flame

At the very least give it a good go. Henry is now going to tell us what he's learned About the origins of the universe from the secret doctrine over the last month. Perfect Nothing Well, the problem is that I just began to I got the secret doctrine first, right? I bought the unabridged hardcore secret doctrine And they even say, you know, like I was like, I'm gonna try to understand impossible understand I then got an annotated Book of the secret doctrine if you want to read it, you should honestly y'all should go ahead and check it out

It is very very interesting called the secret doctrine H.P. Blavatsky But it's a bridge and annotated by Michael Gomez Who if you look him up on youtube has some great lectures as to how to understand the secret doctrine There's several people that come out and try to talk about it because the first thing that they say As you begin to read they're like, don't even try to just read the secret doctrine. You'll never understand it That's not what you're supposed to do with it. You're like, what? But it's a book and they're like, no, you see but you need a teacher You need a guide and that each section can take years

To begin to wrap your mind around right very very difficult And so one thing that I did think of what they basically say one thing I will point you towards is that I'm not even going to attempt to describe What half the shit is are you gonna get a foe hat? What? Foe hat the creative spark of the universe I love foe hat Slow ride. Foe hat's too far advanced It's too far advanced. You'll go mad. What they basically said is that you can spend

Straight up two years Reading the intro for the secret doctrine. You could maybe start to understand it the original intro is a thing called the Proem right which is a five page Just sort of like madame. Lovatsky talking has hpb saying like okay. Here you go I fucking I didn't make this shit up. I I applied old school Works to now I am fully bridging the gap between science philosophy and religion And this is it. This is how we're doing it. But y'all can't even understand my shit unless you even begin the very first three Fundamental principles of what the secret doctrine is. Okay number one that it came from this book called the book of Dizon

Which is completely made up, right? Okay, number one, but she said that's not the point It's the point. It's what she called it right. She called it the books of design, but the main thing she says all right so number one There needs to be an uned in first before you can even begin to read even by the secret doctrine You have to understand that there's an omnipresent eternal boundless and immutable principle on which all speculation is Impossible since it transcends the power of human conception and can only be dwarfed by any human expression or simile to Starts off saying you can't even understand it

Oh, what they're saying is is that there is the DOS program of all life, which is sort of also lifted from kabbalah Which is the infinite eternal cause the beginning Simply formulated what they say dimly formulated in the unconscious and unknowable of current european philosophy It is the rootless root of all that was is or shall ever be so it's a rootless root A rootless root essentially saying that the creator god is we don't you cannot know where the creator god comes from It is unknowable by human comprehension. I take your word for it, but you didn't read it for two years straight So I don't know either one of us did it is truly in the true meaning of the term

Unknowable you literally cannot weak physically Cannot understand what it means for the whatever that backdrop the dark backdrop behind all reality Which is what they she calls the eternal beingess The symbolized in the which is symbolizing the secret doctrine under two things Which is this concept of abstract motion and unconditioned consciousness where there is consciousness Is everywhere and always it's in the background right and that what happens is is that our Brains and our personalities are sparks that come out of which is this this this motion the motion of life And they said that within the infinite

area of this unknowable God force The vein the vein that goes through your face is starting to really Pop out here. I we can't have you die But in order for something so people will say Here come from nothing get you flap doodle. I'll tell you I tell you what if I can You can say for that in order for something to be truly infinite It must hold within it the ability for it to create these life forms and do things right because then because if it doesn't

It's not truly infinite. Is it kissle? I am not even exaggerating Marcus attest to his veins are popping You can see the blood in his body. He's like we got to go work to the brain He's trying to think about Blavatsky. We got to get to the brain. He's sad The closest I got I've been rereading the same five pages for several days now Yeah to try to fold it back in all right The next thing that you have to understand even begin to understand Before you can even try to read the secret doctrine is the eternity of the universe in total as a boundless plane Periodically the playground of numberless universes incessantly manifesting and disappearing called the manifesting stars and the sparks of eternity

Basically saying universes are as impermanent as we are They pop up and they go away all time We're constantly in a state of ebb and flow things rise and fall always There's always a beginning and there's always an end but those beginnings and ends They're infinite and they happen again and again and again So you say beginning and ends and on our time period we we are born and then we die That's to us are the entire universe Imagine that but the entire universe is doing it again and again and again and again. I get that time time is a flat circle

I've heard that before no, I understand that that's very good And that the other thing is that the number three the fundamental identity of all souls within the university or universal Oversoul the latter being an aspect of the unknown root is that we all come from one big happy sky family in the sky That doesn't exist. It is the we come from the beingness and that's where that is the final that's like I think part of what it is that you know like talking about the unknown and all that You know a part of this to start is trying to explain like the big bang. What came before the big bang What was there before the big bang? I don't know nobody knows nobody can ever know what came for the big bang It is unknowable by definition to know what came before what was it when there was nothing

Was there something or was there nothing or is nothing nothing? You know, that's the thing is nothing nothing if nothing is nothing then is nothing also something Time's illusion, bro. So this the unknown known It's similar to what donald rumsfeld said for to explain his war crimes. No There are no known unknowns It's it's under it's one sort of explanation of kind of like the cabala creation story But also this this idea that like the beingness this unknowable god that there's a noble Force whatever the hell it is. I'm not even gonna say force. It's like we are all

In it and and it's behind us and it's in front of us at all times all the bullshit like that We are like that We come from the same stuff and have the same abilities to create and And destroy and and just be You know, I actually I mean, I think it makes more sense than zinu I think it's I think it makes it's more easy to understand than Scientology's bizarre It is easy to understand than Scientology. It's legitimately the first five pages. Yeah, and so that is the rest of it That's the first so the first half, right? That's the first chunk

Which is what they call it is the Cosmogenesis, which is the explain it's a the stanzas and her just Subscribing the stanzas and her explaining the stanzas saying how this ancient knowledge is what's spelling out in the long form The very beginning of the the idea the concept of an unknowable universe. Oh, right I think we've got a taste of it for sure It's definitely a taste of it and the difference between like this and say Scientology, you know another Religion that has a nonsense sort of a book to it, you know, Dianetics all that shit The reason why Dianetics doesn't make any sense is because L Ron Hubbard wanted you to keep paying So you could eventually understand it. It's dangling knowledge in front of you, right?

And it just keeps pulling away from you. It's like well, if you get if you get to the next level Then you'll understand it and if you get to the next level then you'll and then the but the level's never in with madham Blavatsky, there is no levels theosophy was not a money-making scheme. It was not a money-making venture It was a money-losing Sounds like yeah, yeah, it was not a scheme at all like it was real or at least it was legit All right, but unlike Dianetics, which is an esoteric work, honestly It's a modern esoteric work which requires deciphering and that's the whole point of it, right? That you pay for a secret school you in L LRH

Made money off the secret school concept where HPB is using this and saying someone's gonna need to explain this to you But in my mind from what I was reading from the secret doctrine. It's one of the beginnings of it, especially the first third of it Unlike Dianetics the longer you read it the smarter you get where Dianetics the more I was reading it the less good I was getting that like everything in my life. That's great. Perfect. Yeah, because it was like HPB was saying like Somebody's gonna have to explain this to you and then you'd ask her well Who's gonna explain it to you to me and she could I don't unless you guys want to be complicit Unless you guys want to be complicit in like 50 suicides. We have to move on Because I am I am ready. Oh Jesus. Okay

Jesus Christ I am like I honestly don't get it. I feel like I'm aging faster. I don't know what's going on I want to compliment kiss along his patience Because he did very good. He sat and listened So now that we've got the origins of the universe covered at least the best we can Let's move on to what the secret doctrine is best known for The root races Dude, we're like a third of the way through this. No, I am well aware

No, I know dude. This is where again. This is where it gets controversial. Yes. This is where it gets very controversial Push put put it on the gas And despite how it sounds this idea does not necessarily have to do with race as we think of it at least not entirely Blavatsky mostly uses the term race to mean something closer to evolutionary levels Like if we were to refer to australopithecus apharenzis And other pre-human species as previous races to our current existence as homo sapiens. Got it. Got it See when Blavatsky is using the term root She's saying that humanity as it is now is not in its final form

We are currently and have always been growing into our ultimate state and hence life is still in the root phase Hmm from what she writes there have been five root races on earth already with seven sub root races in each iteration And ultimately seven root races will have to exist before we reach what I think is ethereal godhood That's where it gets very close to weird esoteric Mormonism and narcissism Where she this idea that we are she is trying to combine the very new evolutionary theory from Darwin at the time into Spirituality so she's trying to talk about how as we evolve

Things will evolve and we're supposed to be evolving towards What the universe and its peak would allow us to do which is ultimate creative power For any and all total peace total oneness anything at your feet at your fingertips But it doesn't even matter because you don't even got fingertips at that point No, no Now at the same time that the root races are growing and changing though The earth is going through what she calls rounds and there will be seven of those as well The first three rounds materialized the earth into physical being through what gary lachman calls

Cosmic condensation Yeah, hell yeah, man Then the fourth round crystallized it, you know made the earth hard and the last three The moon shorted its woobies And the last three rounds are taking us back to Ethereal form having gone through the necessary evolution to reach that state essentially from how I understand it Humanity has to be ethereal Then physical before we can become a combination of both. So we're not the combo yet. We're not the combo yet

Exactly, we're not ethereal, but we do have the consciousness and intelligence But yeah, we did put pizza on a bagel And then you can have pizza at any time. Yeah, yeah, of course We all know this we all know that that's science. That's just science What she was kind of also referring to is that because there's a lot of karmic wheel shit here So you're supposed to we were supposed to as a species Learn a certain amount of lessons as just ethereal bodies, right? And then we learned those lessons according to her we did and evolved to acquire bodies

Which is what they talk about like the idea that each one of our personalities was made willfully We have to go through a many layers of reality to become physical creatures And then now we're supposed to be learning lessons about physical nature I've got the idea of attachment Of desire all of these things and then once we shit all those out Then we could start to become ethereal again. So we have to shit out the desire and attachment. Yeah, and then we become ethereal Yeah, I got it And during each round a different race is created to reach the ultimate goal of being ethereal

The first root race created by electric fire I want to be part of that one. Maybe that's why I have red hair Well, they were ethereal, but they did not have intelligence as we know it And they lived in what she called the imperishable sacred land until it ultimately perished Well, then okay, I'm not Doing that. Yep. The next race the hyperborians or hyperboreans depending on How you want to fucking say it? They live close to the north pole back when the earth's axis was slanted differently

So the whole planet was a tropical climate, but since the hyperborians were also ethereal climate didn't really matter much That seems like a margaritaville to me I don't want to be a fire person anymore It's important to remember you don't sweat if you're a ghost That's a good point Now the first two races being nothing more than the kinds of astral shells Blavatsky said spiritualists were communicating with they were asexual and reproduced through periodic spiritual rejuvenation But with the third root race things got physical

They began as jelly-like creatures who who reproduced through spores Which would grow into copies of the one who produced it what Blavatsky calls the sweat born I think that that's actually uh, that's Holden mcnealy skyrim name Yes, it might be of course check out page seven and wizard and the bruiser Well sweating out offspring gave way to laying eggs eggs Oh, it would have been edith massie's 93rd birthday a couple of days ago. Oh happy birthday edith massie. She is dead Who gives a shit?

Somebody messaged me that person gave a crap Well, the offspring that gave way to laying eggs that was a sub root race blavatsky called the eggborn And it was with the eggborn that speech first developed from there. The third root race became giants I am Henry Zabrowski of the eggborn Yeah, they all resided in the continent of lemuria lemuria, you know, which we fully covered on a previous episode Yes, according to blavatsky lemuria Became australia and easter island and the gigantic stone heads on easter island are representations of the giant Subrace of the third root race. That was just them setting up botchy balls

See each root race has seven subraces and each subrace has to evolve to the next Level before the following root race can take hold Ah with the lemurians, they began as jelly but evolved into men and women with a third eye on the back of their head that they used for telepathic communication I think it's fucking dope Very uncomfortable. How do you sleep? Well, you could look at this direly literally or you could look at this allegorically You could say that there were a bunch of people rolling around Right there were they turned it to people like with third eyes at the backs of their heads or like circle people

Which they talked about for quite a bit like people that were literally roll And then they would be divided in half and that's how love was created, right? Which is comes from head with an angry inch or you care or you believe all of this is allegorical and this is just about Things that the lessons that we picked up as we went away, right as we go What are the lessons does the human species learn? Sure Now from what blavatsky wrote the physical formation of humans as we appear today occurred about 18 million years ago on lemuria And after lemuria was destroyed by fire its successor rose and became Atlantis

All right, so theory here fair people at lantis lemurians the tall giants that try to piss out the fire They don't realize how much piss is inside of them like when you're trying to pee in the car And it fills the gatorade bottle too quickly because you don't realize how much you actually pee Atlantis is nothing but giant urine Dude, if this was like a thousand years ago, you'd be a like native american witch Like that would be like a story that you told that ever be like Oh, I cannot wait until the urine floods come again We can rise

No, this is Atlanteans Atlantis I watched a good documentary when they were looking for it like right outside of the the stone of Gibraltar Uh in uh outside of spain and they went looking for atlantis, man Yeah, and They did not find it. They did not find it. No Now when atlantis first popped out of the ocean about 850 000 years ago humans were still gigantic Okay, which bovatsky said explained the pyramids and stonehenge

But once atlantians got to be between six and seven feet on average They mastered both mechanical flight and electricity the atlantians were highly developed They also had the psychic powers that were present in the lemurians But after the atlantians dabbled in black magic atlantis sunk and the remaining atlantians settled in egypt and the americas Ah, it wasn't underwater the whole time not the no, no, it's No, it's not like aquaman Okay, no, but they also black magic was possibly code for nuclear weapons and that they blew themselves into oblivion But there's not a there's just like not a lot of proof

Yeah, well, thank god. We're never gonna do that. No way. That's gonna happen to us No way. We certainly have more sense than that Are these irresponsible hands? Yes, indeed We also lost our psychic powers because the atlantians had degenerated into phallicism and sexual worship of their own bodies And their preoccupation with the flesh is what lost us our telepathic third eye Uh, I'm fine with it. Thanks for aesthetics. I don't need the eye in the back of my head. It'd be cool. I guess You have to sleep on your side

Well, no the eye in the back of your head is all it's not necessarily like an actual eye that you see through That's the eye that you telepathically telepathically communicate. So it's not like kathy segoal in in in futurama No, it's not our character. Well, there were cyclopses at one point, but when are they gonna be brought up? They still got two eyes in the front of their head, but they've also got the third eye in the back of their head You know what man? I'm just so happy now. You have self parking cars when you're trying to it's symbolic Oh, I see I get it now. Hmm. However, atlantis was not destroyed because of their depravity or because they have become deeply sinful Rather it was destroyed because it was simply their turn They had evolved to the end of their round and so atlantis had to go. Well, that's not a good message

Then you can do whatever you want if it's just about Epson flows. Yeah, dude that ebbs and flows things come and go every civilization's rise and fall We are supposed to learn a certain set of lessons Expiration date comes up. Sometimes you just sink into the fucking ocean. Yeah, how you doing at civ 5 by the way? You still playing? I'm playing civ 6. Well, I've been moved. I moved to platform gaming. We're gonna get into this I can't I can't do this right now. All right But as each round went man developed in the first two and a half rounds Man was said to be an animal intellectually but midway through the third. We developed human intelligence

It was physical being first then human intelligence We developed even further for the fourth round and finally the stage was set for the fifth and current race Of which we are all a part of That is the infamously named Aryan race. Yay All right And here's where things have gotten a wee bit muddled over the years. Okay. Now when we hear the word Aryan We usually think of two things whites and primacy and nazis

But that wasn't at all what Blavatsky was trying to say Really all Blavatsky was saying was that the Aryans were the current iteration of mankind and more specifically We're all a part of the fifth sub race of the Aryan race But again Aryan doesn't necessarily mean better. It just simply means next But how are we better now without Uh, the third eye. I just told you it's it's not necessarily better. But so it's just it's just okay. It's just next This is not an order. Yeah, these are the lessons we need to learn now They used they they used the third eye for the lessons that they were supposed to learn them

Now we have bush hair and we're supposed to learn something with those lessons I'm not certain what the difference is between the Aryans, but the Aryans look like us and we're supposed to learn how to live I think in my mind It's almost like telepathy and kind of they talk a little bit about this It used to it's certain people who write about consciousness that early man used to be more telepathic Right, we used to talk with each other more often with either something like instinct in our brains and also our brains were bicameral So at some point our subconscious and our conscious were literally separate And so we're maybe one of the concepts of God came from is that when we thought of things

We literally might they don't know for sure But we might have heard an actual voice coming inside of our brain as if we were talking to someone else Right, man. The man with two brains Yes, but at some point those things came together So what if we're not supposed to be directly telepathic anymore? But we're supposed to learn how to have empathy and understanding without being necessarily Mentally connected to each other but to be able to just intellectually understand that we are all one being and that we should be able to Get along just because and I don't have to do it just because I can know when kissle has to shit before he has to shit

All right Well, bovatsky said that the sixth sub route race would take hold here in america and current theosophists have an interesting theory about this From what theosophists like michael gomez say bovatsky was alluding to the melting pot of america Essentially america being the place where every nationality and creed and race and religion are all gathered America will become a massive fuckpot that creates a new race the american race The sixth sub race and they'll be very beautiful You get everybody together and get all the different best bits from everybody from the top They'll be coupled with all the worst bits everybody

But that's just people like me where I got all the recessive genes for my father and jacky got all the good genes Well, I am never going to call it a melting pot again. It's a fuckpot. It's a fuckpot America is a fuckpot Yeah, and considering how just a hundred years ago like the irish the english the italians the germans the french They were all divided amongst strict social lines. Yeah today. We're all just white You know, there there's no there's no lines anymore at least in that respect in that respect in that respect Work will say work in progress work in progress work in progress a lot of work to do but Now admittedly blavatsky did have some dumb shit 1880s opinions about race as we think of it But she also wrote that dividing humanity into superior and inferior races was a fallacy

Saying further that if the whole of europe were to be destroyed in 1881 Any race could and would replace the whites She she also the theosophical the theosophical society was specifically They opened to everyone. That was the ideas. They wanted a diverse group in there Well, you know the first command of theosophy is to form the nucleus of a universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race creed sex castor color Can't really get any clearer than that They will judge you by your feet though They will

Essentially, I think blavatsky was trying to have it both ways Just like she was trying to have it both ways by talking shit about women in the mahatma letters while also entrusting the theosophical society Her occult baby to women. She was trying to have her cake in to eat it too Now you're forced to say now you get it Blavatsky also wrote that it will be the american race all the colors mixed together That takes humanity to the next level of consciousness Even if most of us are killed in a cataclysm like the lemurians and the atlantians were Well, we're supposed to aren't we if it does happen

That's how it was supposed to go anyway, which is you know kind of a fatalistic view about it But you also have to imagine that nothing's real anyway, but not to worry because from what blavatsky wrote It'll still be 25,000 years until the sixth sub race turns over to the seventh at which time We will destroy europe and the entire ariam race with it. It's not that far off 25,000 years isn't that like I can see it I can yeah, yeah, we're not gonna we're not gonna see it, but I can see it I could think about it like that, but I also wonder at some level

Man, oh man, we got to do this for another 24 Thousand years. Yeah, we got a long time. No, we got to do it 24,900 I don't know if the american experiment is gonna make it to the year fucking 26,000. Well, it's gonna have to Well as far as what comes after that blavatsky is pretty vague because after all it hasn't happened yet And the secret doctrine is an accumulation of wisdom already passed down with just a small peak into the end of our own current race But she believed that once the seven keys open the mysteries of the past and the future Her teachings will finally be accepted because she had no illusions that the secret doctrine would be accepted in its time Hmm much like Susie Orman. She always always ahead of her time financial

Liberation for women. Who's Susie Orman? Susie Orman? Susan Orman. No, it's Susie Orman. It's not Susan Orman. It's you guys don't Who's she's a financial guru Financial guru. This is it's so funny to have the kissle knows a financial guru author He owns a recliner an iphone seven He owns a uh 80 inch television two two 80 inch televisions Um and two I think you have two separate ps4s, right? You can take the boy out of the trash, but you can't take the trash out of the boy Why is the boy in the trash?

I don't know It's fun in there As far as the nazis go part of the reason why they were so obsessed with Tibet and the swastika Which is a buddha symbol was because bovatsky has said that the arian race had its origins in east asia But the nazis were working off a perversion of the word arian that had been put forth by occultist Guido von list and jorglans von libenfelds. Of course the guy's a race. His name is a racial slur And they took the word and vague notion and created Ariosophy, which certainly is white supremacist doctrine. However, considering what we know about her

I think it's safe to say that bovatsky would have rejected Ariosophic and especially nazi ideas wholesale if she hadn't been long dead by the time they gained popularity She'd been dead for like 30 years. She would be fighting with us. Anyway, she would be with the with the brits, right? Yeah, or the russians or america either way. She would not be pro nazi No, I would pray I would imagine that she would have been up for being killed by the nazis I imagine that she'd be the type of person that would end up in a concentration camp at some point And madam bovatsky dead die not too long after the secret doctrine was published during a particularly bad influenza season In 1891 and her last words were appropriately enigmatic

She said quote Keep the link unbroken Do not let my last incarnation be a failure Last incarnation There's a fucking cop in my pussy still No, but I gotta say dude. Those are some pretty solid ass last words. That's not easy. That's the final word dude That's hard and she nailed it. Those are very very good last words great last words. Yes

Following her death the dominant personalities in theosophy were annie basant and charles ledbetter who? Despite his admitted days for teenage boys still had some fascinating things to say about the astral plane Taste for teenage boys. That's how you want to phrase You're like a sommelier I'm on a teenage boys. I get I'm like, I'm like, what's the top notes? Actually, I'm more interested in what are the bottom notes. Oh my goodness. Well ledbetters Descriptions of radiating vibrations and floating forms which were influenced by levatsky inspired was silly kandinsky the first abstract artist However, it's a very abstract name. It's a very yes

However ledbetter was kicked out of theosofical society in 1906 for giving private masturbation lessons To young boys. Hey, man. Who's gonna teach these kids? You know But that's my father didn't teach me a lot of stuff Yeah, I learned that masturbation from the encyclopedia. I think we're incredible to have learned it from an elder author I don't think so. All right. So he is a real spacey. Yeah, I like how we got to the very end We got to the very end of this whole fucking thing. It's just cw ledbetter Given private masturbation lessons

Right. Yeah, that's very very bizarre. Also. You cannot give a Masturbation is alone. I mean you can't do it with a partner. I suppose but it's dual masturbation Now levatsky's ideas of masters were further honed by annie basant and the idea of ascended masters Was later taken up by allister crowley Who will one day get a proper series all of his own when we further map Just how occultism shaped the 20th century and beyond and beyond This is like the first part. This is like the first thing Well, let's not scare the audience madame. It'll be like next year when we do next year. We'll do it though. Yeah

I love it. It's coming. Thank you all so much for listening to our madame. Blavatsky series really awesome. Great job Uh, super interesting man. Thanks to joan rachel for all their help on research as well. What a life lived It's amazing that she what she died mid fifties Uh early 60 and her she did a lot of shit. Mm-hmm. She did a lot of shit She changed a lot of stuff for good and for bad. She she is a mixed bag of a human being Very very complicated just like the subject matter and then Constantly left with the question. Where is the line between magician and con man? That's kind of up to you and what you get out of it. The hpb always said it's all about whatever her lessons were

Whatever the back door whatever the the the concepts that she was selling and it did help a lot of people and one little coda Is that right before any right before she died? any basant In her like because any basant was the chosen successor of hpb So she was like grooming her to be the next her and at some point as hpb was like dying in bed any basant was like I just I want to see the wraps I want to see the nox like I want to see all the stuff that you've talked about you did for years

And she's like i'll show you and grabbed her by the shoulders and she said she felt the nox Rack her whole body which is kind of sexy, right? It's kind of weird Right is a zapper whole body with it. And so there was just this like last little peek Of the magic still inside of hpb just lodged in her gut Near a patch of butter and eggs Yeah, I don't know if I would describe it as sexy It's a woman in hospice shaking another woman of a certain age, but Indeed

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