Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 415: The Tall Whites

Episode Date: June 27, 2020

On today's episode, we explore the world of the chalky alien species known as the Tall Whites, who terrorized a young airman in the Mojave Desert for two years back in the late sixties as a part of a secret liaison program with the United States government. Allegedly. 

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Never be scared of a short, short man. He's always fine, and he has a plan. Always be scared of the tall, white man. Really?

I hate the message of that song. It's a great tune. I will be humming it, but the message is all wrong. Always be scared of the tall, white man. Always be scared. Welcome to the last podcast on the left, everyone. I am Ben, staring at Marcus. Hi. Hanging out with Sitar Henry Zabrowski.

Rockin' the tunes! Sitar looks incredibly difficult to play. The harder their instrument to play, the worse it sounds. It's one of those weird things. I love a Sitar playing. I loved that George Harrison solo album was always very good. We're already in tall, white man territory. Yes, we are.

You just really want to get into the fucking merits of all things must pass, because I can. I love it. Alright, everyone. Today's episode, we're talking shore. There's going to be some jokes about height. Yes, but when you need toilet paper at the store and you can't reach, when you need paper towels and you can't reach,

maybe you want beans and your favorite ones are on the top of the shelf. Who you going to call? The tall whites. And that's who we're talking about today. We're going to try to be less harsh on your people, because you're not really of the tall whites. No, they're thin. The tall whites, they're thin.

You were definitely a giant humanoid because of the size of your joints, and how swollen the tops of your feet are, and how big and gangly your hands are, and how you're all red-headed, and you could be a cannibal if you just could simply wrap your lips around a small enough person. Alright, tall whites. Let's get into it. Now, the tall whites are somewhat unique in the pantheon of alien races,

because they, unlike the greys and the reptilians, seem to have only one major extended encounter with humans in alien lore. And although one might say that this points towards the story being a complete and total fabrication... Puff! Pish! Pish-tosh! What? There are other factors that seem to suggest that the story of the tall whites might have, at the very least, a kernel of truth. A whole kernel?

Hey man, it's better than most alien stories. That's great! It's true. I mean, a whole kernel can do a lot, because just a kernel of uranium can ruin your entire family line. It totally can. One kernel in your stool can keep you alive forever, according to that lore. Remember that? There was a king who ate a corn kernel,

and then he just kept on eating it again out of his own dookie. What the fuck are you talking about? What are you possibly fucking talking about? I have never... We just started the episode, and you're trying to tell me some fake fucking drunk-on-a-stool version of corn lore, of a king eating forever more. It's true!

It's true! There is true! I heard that, I think my mother told me the story, where the guy, he kept on eating the same... She was just trying to stop getting you eating them out of all the corn, because you're just sitting on a pile of corn cobs, and she's just trying to wrestle some from you, so the rest of the family can have corn at the barbecue.

Corn is something, it's the food that keeps on giving. I'll allow it. All right! Allow it. Fairy top! Three minutes, 40 seconds in! Well, concerning those kernels of truth, for one, the Tall Whites are missing from Alien lore,

because, as we'll see, they are completely and totally uninterested in abduction, meaning their interactions with humans would be limited. They have their own agendas, they have their own plans. They are not concerned with the lives of humankind. They use us as waystops, if you do believe specifically the stories of Charles Hall. But there are other sorts of stories of Tall Whites that I'll bring up as we get into this, and I know that it feels like it's a hard time to just hear the term Tall White, again and again and again.

But we planned this episode many months ago, so we're ripping through it. Well, for two, technological advances in recent years, as well as new evidence wholly unrelated to the Tall White story, has made it more compelling. In other words, like the incident in Rendlesham Forest, time has been kind to the story of the Tall Whites. It's not necessarily boosted the credibility of the Tall Whites,

but it's not fully destroyed the idea of the Tall Whites. And the reason why we're covering this episode, the reason why we're even doing this episode, is because we've talked about Venusians. Right. We've talked about Greys. We've talked about, on our stage show, we've talked about Tall Whites a little bit,

when we were identifying them on the street. Do you remember that when we found all that footage just seeing Tall Whites on the street? Yeah. They look like Scott Van Pelt. He's a great sports center host. Now, we owe our knowledge of the Tall Whites to an Air Force veteran named Charles Hall, who outlined his experience with the alien race in six books,

known collectively as the Millennial Hospitality Series. Wait, six books? It took him six books? I made it through the entire first book, and I made it through a couple of pages of the second book. And the only way I can describe the style of writing is, it's as if Catch-22 was written by a man who eats cereal for a living. That's not a bad way to make a living.

These are difficult books. Okay. And by difficult, I mean, they are haltingly written, much as the man speaks. Yeah, because the other source is the documentary, Walking with the Tall Whites, because it's difficult, but it took me two days to watch an hour, 20 minute long documentary,

because I kept falling asleep. Oh, okay, so it's good. Charles Hall, Charles Earhole is an interesting, you know what? I'm not going to say fucking interesting. He's opposite of interesting. He is so not interesting that it makes him compelling. And having Natalie walk in several times,

because I listed you probably, what, 10 hours of this man speaking, because you're saying that these are the only two sources, but there's not. He was on such legendary shows as the Rob McConnell interview series. These are big shows. Who is on Rob McConnell? Richplanet.tv. He was on that.

He was on Living Self-Sufficient, which is a YouTube channel posting a bunch of weird videos inside of a Hilton. I watched 10 hours of him speaking. Wow. And although Charles White is, to say the least, a somewhat sedate human being, in his speaking engagements,

his overall demeanor of maddening calm also lends his story some credence. Yeah, apparently it does. It's not going like, do you have any girl? What the fuck happened to me, man? I'll tell you, I met some tall whites, man. They fucking stole my barbecue set, man. See, I believe that guy, though.

I believe the guy who has a lot of energy, a lot of emotion, a lot of trauma. The Travis Walton. I think that this guy might be too calm. Can I believe him? Well, we'll see. All right. To put the story in a nutshell,

Charles Hall was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base just north of Las Vegas. Or actually, if I remember my fallout New Vegas map correctly, it's a little northwest of Las Vegas. I know you remember that every day. Yeah, northeast. Of course it is. He was stationed there from 1965 to 1967,

sent there ostensibly to take weather readings in the Mojave Desert using weather balloons. What a shitty job to have in the military. Hey, I mean, weather's very important to the Air Force. Not apparently to the stories of Charles Hall. Talks about how they just threw balloons out. Didn't even take measurements, but it sounds like it's a thing that's really important

because you've got to find out where the wind's going for all the planes to land in and out. But they were just making shit up. But yeah, he had to go out into the desert heat. They just put him out there. And we'll get to it why it seems to be, it's like they just kind of left him out there to die. Well, what Hall's main purpose at Nellis ended up being

was to work as a sort of unwitting liaison between the United States government and a small colony of aliens known as the Tall Whites. Well, the Tall Whites were, that's also, that was their workplace. Right. They were in an area of the world called, it was the area 54, otherwise known as Dreamland.

Apparently they were given a section of land by the U.S. government. Charles Hall, as we'll see, was there as a sort of training person to get Tall Whites used to human beings. And he was kind of thrown to the dogs that way. But I think it's mostly got to do with the fact that he is the most boring man who's ever lived.

Natalie asked me to shut it off from the other room. She just came in, she was like, listen, I love you and I love your pursuit of knowledge to all ends. I don't think she said either of those things. No, she did. She always practices, she couches it. She's really good.

She's like, but I am falling asleep in the other room. Just hearing him mumbling. And I was just like, I understand, I know, I'm like slowly chopping, like making food as I'm watching him speak. No, Charles Hall published the first volume of his Millennial Hospitality series 20 years after being discharged from the Air Force.

He presented the book as fiction, supposedly to protect the identities of the other people involved. But as the books began to get more attention, or perhaps because the books got no attention, not quite sure which, Charles Hall began to say that everything he'd written in Millennial Hospitality

was actually a fictionalized account of a true story. Charles Hall is a deep cut version of characters that we've covered and have then exist throughout all of ufology. I put them kind of on the spectrum between Bob Lazar, who if you begin to look at some of his claims, some of it sounds, there is stuff to back it up,

and there's also, the way his personality works, you can kind of buy it. And then the other side of the spectrum is Billy Meyer, who we covered a couple years ago, who was totally a crank, totally a fraud. He might have had some form of, he had some form of visitation, or believe that he did,

and then he spun it into a whole world of lore. Charles Hall for me is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, because there's very little concrete proof to prove anything that he says, but it also just gets to become, it's just such a fun ass story, and it's a unique look at an alien race and a set of agendas that we have not covered whatsoever.

And so to see someone like build out this detailed world, to be honest, if he had just kept it fiction, it would have been, if he was a better author, it would have been a good series. But he wrote 1400 pages. So he's trying to do revisionist history, very similar to what Tommy Wiseau does with The Room, when he said, oh no, it's a dark comedy.

I did this on purpose. In no way did I accidentally miss the mark so much, that it actually became entertaining. Yeah, I wanted to be funny. Yeah, that's his whole thing now. But before we get into the saga of Charles Hall and the Tall Whites, it'd probably be helpful to tell the audience what we know about the alien race

we're gonna be focusing on today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And listen, you know, again, there's a lot of shit going on right now, but this is a really good time to maybe, if you have some hash, they sell hash at the fucking store now. We used that to smuggle that inside,

like under our balls and little sandwich baggies, but now I go into a store and I can fucking buy it. Isn't that crazy? It's almost like it shouldn't be a crime and anybody using jail should be fucking out for it. But you should go, get yourself, get some top grade sativa. This is one of the new things I like to do,

get a top grade sativa, grind it down really, really hard, right, to a nice fine dust, so get yourself a hybrid hash, layer it in, mix, mix, mix, with the little shovel that you got, right? Then get one of these things. I've been using hemp rope. I'm at this fucking shit, this level of boredom.

I bought hemp rope online and I light the rope and then I light the ball, slowly circle, circle, circle, because what you're gonna want to do is relax the sphincter of your mind. You're gonna want to, you don't want to get a popper or something, maybe you can do something. Relax the sphincter to just let this information in, because this is an episode

of the podcast that is gonna make you stupider. All right. And I'm really looking forward to the dulling of the edge. Absolutely, and of course, even the sphincter when relaxed, it will hurt a little bit going in, but we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this.

Now the tall whites are not white in the way that the three of us are considered white. Considered white. Where the three of us are various shades of pink and beige. I'm pink. The two of you are pink, I'm more of a beige. You are just something.

Your egg shell. And they say we're not diverse. The skin of the tall white is actually white, like chalk. Oh, like Edgar Winter White. Yeah. And why you may think that the chalk white skin mean they come from a cold planet,

their home world is actually quite a bit warmer than ours, which is partly why they chose the Mojave Desert as their home base on Earth. That's their purview, but the US government also gave them a chunk of the Mojave Desert. So you wonder what they took and what they were simply given.

And what the arrangements were, because the tall whites do not enter and turn arrangements with any other alien species that does not also in some way benefit them. They're very fair. And their brains work seven times faster than ours. I'm actually upset with how much you know about this subject and how happy you are to expel these thoughts from your brain.

This is the only place in which I could be vaguely considered an authority. Well, as far as the tall qualifier goes, the tall whites averaged between six and seven feet in height, with the upward ceiling of the tall whites being

nine feet. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a bit. I saw you do a little like... Well, six to seven feet, that's my family. Six four is the smallest one. Six eleven is the tallest one in my family. But the thing is, if you compare them to other alien species, the other aliens are

relatively, for the most part, short because of the necessities of space travel, which is true. There's nuts and bolts. It's better for them to be compact. And they are actually inside of a UFO crate. It's good for them to fit inside the little capsules. Tall whites are long, but they go to three separate growth periods. They go from

baby tall white, with a little child tall white, or actually they're at their most dangerous. That's when they're in their most reactionary, because they'll snap at you with claws. And they go into a six, seven foot period, right? Where they basically, they grow up. And a lot of times they have to go back to their home planet where there's less gravity, so they can actually

spur up to nine feet. Right. What they then do is, they use groups of smaller tall whites, the baby tall whites, when they get so high because when they're so tall, that's when they're considered wise. And the small ones are supposed to go around them and support them and keep them from standing up.

Because otherwise, they kind of droop around, like those weird things that dance in front of car sales places. No kidding, like Bailey's WWE Superstar, she's a hugger. That's what her thing is, and she used to have those outside her entrance. Very interesting, Henry. But as it goes,

the tallest of the tall whites, as Henry said, are also the oldest. But therein lies the tragedy of the race. Hmm. What is this? Is this about circulation? If this is about, like, the veins can't actually get down to their toes, and the blood circulation doesn't work.

I don't want to hear it. Kind of. Well, the tall whites' lifespan is about 10 times that of a human, 800 years. And halfway through their lifespan, as Henry said, the tall whites go through a third stage of growth that does not stop until their ever-growing height kills them

through organ failure. Yeah, I mean, they get stretched to death. You have to get the surgery. Big Show got it. This is a lot of wrestling references, but Big Show got it, so he stopped growing. Oh, wow, really? Because Andre didn't get it. What do you mean? They snipped the, I don't know, the

pituitary gland? I don't know what. What? I don't know how anything works. That sounds like it's a bad idea. No, it's stopping from growing. You can start getting smaller? No, because he has gigantism. He keeps on going, going, going, going. And Andre had it too, and he could have snipped it, but he chose to not, because he wanted to be a big boy.

Yeah. As far as the head goes, the tall whites are said to have gigantic blue eyes that damn near sit on the sides of their head, like that girl in the Apex Twin video. Ah, of course. And although tall whites can be startling, they can still

pass as human, which gets under the skin of some exobiologists. I mean, they argue that if the Walt Laws of natural selection work on other planets the way they do here, aliens would look nothing like us, and may not even be bipedal depending on the environment in which

they evolve. It depends on the nature of the alien, right? Are the aliens just natural extensions of our brains, right? Are we, like, do we help formulate their appearance within our dimension? Therefore, we create some sort of mirroring effect where we selfishly make

them look like us so we can understand them, or as what they said in other parts of the universe, maybe they'd have like a phosphorus background, like a backbone to your DNA instead of carbon, and maybe you look like a living fart, or maybe you look like a plant with a dick. Alright, that could be.

That's kind of fun. But others argue that it is essential that sentient aliens have similar bodies and faces to ours due to the universal utility of various aspects of the human form, or as it's put on Openseti.org, what's good for us should be

good for everyone. Whoa, buddy, whoa, throwing the shit around. I also think it fits into the Judeo-Christian outlook of many people that believe that's a way for them to fold in the concept of God and aliens at the same

time, so they can believe that God used the same mold at the factory to make aliens that they made us. And that he, because God is supposed to, we're supposed to be quote-unquote made in his her image, right, that we look like the way the Godhead would look like.

Therefore, we constantly reproduce things that look just like us, which looks like God. So you look like God. Oh, yeah. I tell you, man, LRH. Same waistline. But according to Charles Hall, while the tall whites may look like peculiar

humans, they can, with the proper dress, pass as humans, which the more seasoned tall whites do during occasional field trips to nearby Las Vegas. They love Vegas. Yeah. They love Vegas. They love gambling with our money.

It's really, really fun for them. This is a big thing, according to Charles Hall. They love Vegas. But the way Charles Hall also describes tall whites is like, it's like meeting anybody from New York City, where you go and they come from all walks of life. All sorts of different styles of haircut,

different styles of music, different styles of food. They could be any type of person, especially in New York City. She's like, I'm going to fucking blow my brains out. Yeah, you can see, you can just see him talking over whatever, wherever

he is, I feel like he's eating a devil egg. And you can just see him begins talking and there might be people around him by the time he's done with his sentence, no one is there. He's obsessed with New York City. He uses that as the ultimate melting pot. Nothing is

wilder in a street in New York City, which is true. Yeah, sure. Well, one YouTube commenter claimed that they saw a group of tall whites years ago, wandering around Burning Man. And this person claimed to have been 100% sober at that point in the festival. Okay.

And no one's ever been nothing but truthful on a YouTube comment. Absolutely. Now, since the tall whites are able to mingle with Americans, it follows that they would need at least some command of the English language in order to communicate with the Black Jack dealers and the hippies. Sure.

Well, they have mechanical boxes on their clothes that they use to translate into English and then they use back and forth. They actually they use that they're not psychic, but they can put imagery into your mind from their mind using

these little boxes that they have in their belts. Kind of like my good friend Craig Rowan has a little box, but it was because he has diabetes. Yeah, kind of like that, indeed. Well, that's good for gambling. Yeah. Yeah. It's good to have psychic abilities when gambling. Sure. Is it possible these are just men with

alopecia? And they are constantly being hunted by stone freaks at Burning Man. They have beautiful long wispy white hair. But it's way thinner than human hair. It's like all butchers weird little wires, like

weird funky ass alien spaghetti. I'll never forget when I discovered angel hair spaghetti. Yeah. Oh, you'll never forget? My mom did. I remember when my mom accidentally bought it and it was incredible and then we got angel hair for the rest of the year.

That's what happened. I'm just trying to add to the conversation. If you guys want to talk about the 60 game baseball season, we can talk about that. Everything's going to have an asterisk. If you win the World Series, who cares? The Mets are probably going to win it this year and it's not going to matter. Wow.

But the fact that the Tall Whites can communicate in English begs the question of what their language sounds like. And from what Charles Hall says, most of their speech sounds are inaudible to the human ear because they speak mostly on a frequency that we can't hear. But according to Charles

Hall, the sounds we can hear sound something like a combination of the beautiful lilt of a singing meadowlark and the short sharp stabs of a barking dog. Oh. Oh. Oh.

What's that, Lord Black? What's that? Baby Jessica is stuck in the well. Oh. You threw a will's your asshole. Oh, you got to release, release. Whoa. He said that it's also, one way Charles

Hall described their speaking, he said it's as if you put your face up close to a speaker at a rock session. Oh. This man is not a human. That's my official takeover. He might be the alien. He could be.

In addition to Henry's interpretation, I've seen the Liberty doing a little sound mixing to try and approximate what a room full of tall whites conversing with each other might sound like. Oh my God, I can just see you staring at Carolina as she enters the room just being like Marcus dinner's

ready and you're like, I'm working. I am working. Can't you see? My headphones are on. My brow is wet. I'm hard as the dickens. I am doing sound designing. Let's listen. Oh.

God damn it. It's very soothing. I like it. I don't know. Those are the nicest noises you've ever made in that little room. Thank you. However, as cool as an encounter with a tall whites might seem, some At no point have you guys made it seem cool.

At no point yet. It's kind of cool because they show up and they wave. Yeah. And they got cool suits on, man. Yeah. But they don't really care for us very much and to be honest, they're very aloof. They're kind of, to be honest, it's like a bunch of space Gwyneth Paltres. Okay, goop.

But some tall whites are also skittish to the point where they will not hesitate to use extreme force if they are threatened in any way. And it is not hard to make a tall white feel as if his life is in danger. Always be scared of the tall white, man.

Because they are physically very vulnerable. So they get very, very scared, especially on the planet Earth because we are war-like ape. When they come down here and deal with us they are very on guard because they know that we like to shoot first and ask questions later. So they quite

more often than not, they zap you with that fucking laser. They got lasers that they zap you with and sometimes they have little instruments that just makes you completely freeze and then they can do whatever they want to. From what Charles Hall said in the documentary, walking with

the tall whites, one needs to declare each and every movement when you are around them. Whether it be standing up or walking across the room. Lest a jumpy tall white interpret the action as aggressive. Oh my god, it's like hanging out with a bunch of people on mushrooms.

You legitimately the only person that could have discovered this accidentally is Charles Hall. Who does that in his day to day life? I am walking to the door. Huh. It's only seven steps of the door from where my office chair is. Better write that down.

Now I am going to use this hand. It's my right hand. I know because I put it up and it doesn't make a L properly shaped when I look at it from my eyeballs, which are there are two here in the top of the circle that is called my head. Now although the tall whites are much weaker

than humans, they react and move much faster. With their lightning quick reflexes, they are able to produce a pencil shaped weapon that can stun, immobilize, hypnotize, or kill humans using microwave frequencies that interact with ions in our bodies.

That's cool. Yeah, dude. Now as dangerous as they are, they can also be friendly. However, that friendliness also comes with a fair amount of arrogance and casual insults, which when you're dealing with Americans can result in conflict very quickly.

Well, the one time that Charles Hall said they loved playing mind games with him because they could think seven times faster than us. So one time he's like, can you please just, I've never asked you what's the name of your what is the name of your home planet? And they're like, well,

Charles, tell me, do you speak Zelenium? No, no, I do not. I do not speak Zelenium teacher. Then even if we were to tell you the name of our planet, he would not know it. Oh my god, I can't. I can't

with these people. You know, for a fact, they're just, you know, Big Bang theory might be canceled, but at least we have Young Sheldon. I hate these people. Well, the tall whites are also just terribly strange to behold, which caused a lot of military men who first came into contact with them in

the Nevada desert to immediately flip out. And then when the military men flipped out, the tall whites attacked. And then you fucking zap, dude. Scars you up. Okay. But this is precisely what made Charles Hall the perfect man to

liaison with the tall whites. Placid to the point where you might think something is wrong. Charles Hall was just boring enough to survive extended encounters with these high strong alien creatures. Now, prior to arriving

at Nellis Air Force Base, Charles Hall had done a brief tour in Vietnam. But after scoring what he said was the highest test score ever in a mathematics portion of the Air Force placement test, he was assigned to a weather station in the Mojave Desert. Is it possible

that they just lied to him to get him out of Vietnam because he was doing so bad as a soldier? I have an extended theory about Charles Hall where we're going to see how often the general calls him to tell him he's doing a good job. How many, the general

of Nellis Air Force Base how many times people could be in like Charles Hall simply the smartest man that I've ever met. That are all in his books. And it starts at the point that I read a, I start to think I think he's trying to hear those words from other people.

That he's never heard them before. He's never heard a minute of encouragement. I read the forward because his wife made him write the books. His wife said that he was puttering around. He had no job. He was completely unemployed and he's like we gotta get money in coming in his house. He was just like well maybe we could take a

look at the memoirs. I am writing for our grandchildren. She's like let me look at this. She got all the memoirs together and she was like this is filled with what she called vulgar masculine language. It must be edited and we need to sell this immediately because you're not making enough money for this house.

I think that his wife seems like a woman who just needed the, who realized the bills have to be paid. She's correct. Maybe he should make some money. She was correct but I don't think he's ever experienced a word of encouragement in his life. Okay. Now once Charles arrived at Nellis

he immediately made an impression on one of the Air Force majors by insulting the majors wife. Charles in his mid-twenties at the time was attending a party and the intoxicated majors wife asked him to dance. This is one of those fun things where she was dancing from man

to man right and she was like a fun gregarious woman who got a little handsy on the dance floor and it's all like you gotta dance knees as tall slim soldiers. Like a lot of guys go oh let's see these keys in your pocket. Go now I'm like feeling for like go inside the men's like pockets

in the back of their pants and stuff. But then she sauntered over to Charles and uh. Yeah Charles said ugh no you're too old. Whoa Charles! And the majors wife stomped off. And everyone was like oh dude what are you doing man

you said no to the fucking majors wife man. Yeah. I mean is the major a cock like Jim Cornette what's going on here. That's wrestling news Jim Cornette he's the cock we didn't know that until this week. Well the next day Charles was called to the majors office for what Charles assumed was going to be a first rate

astuant. No I know nothing worse than a second rated astuant that's just embarrassing. But instead the major thanked Charles for turning down his eternally intoxicated wife's constant advances to all the men. Yep. And that Charles

was the only airman to do so. All the other men was like yow yow dance with your wife. Huh. And therefore Charles could be trusted as a man who knew his place. Makes all the sense of the world. This is a plot. He stole this plot line from Mr. Belvedere.

Yes. I'm pretty certain. After that Charles proved himself further by talking down six F-105 fighters on a training mission through a blind landing using nothing more than his extensive knowledge of the wind. I mean weather's pretty important

to the whole flying process. I heard that. You would be surprised how much I know about wind. Wind can go left. Wind can go right. Depending on where you're standing that is either east or west. And sometimes if I eat a certain amount of fibrous foods I can make my own wind.

Charles that's funny. Humor is normally a statement that is in congress with logic. That one says in order to create a physical reaction. So yes indeed it was scientifically funny. So for his

efforts Charles was assigned to do weather readings in a weather shack using weather balloons out in the Mojave gunnery range. Or at least that's what Charles thought his job was supposed to be. Before Charles even went out to the range to begin his assignment though

he began hearing stories about a horse that haunted the desert that men had named range for Harry. I fucking love this story. This is the story that got me wanting to do this episode is that I love this idea

of an atomic evil horse. That is just betrayed by the nuclear testing of the American government. Now seeks to terrorize our boys in blue. Yes indeed. In green I think something like that. As the story went, back in

1954 range for Harry was a horse that had been too close to an atomic bomb test blast. It wasn't close enough to kill him but he was close enough to be terribly burned. And on warm summer nights the radioactive beast roamed range for

glowing a soft fluorescent light. It's like red dead redemption. Yeah dude it's cool. You look out in the fucking deserts you just see this fucking ghost horse with the atomic energy that's fucking deep. That's pretty fun alright cool. But this was no ghost it was said that anyone

who tried getting close to the horse either got burned or came under attack. And the few that did see him up close said that he was tall and had a human like face with big blue eyes. So weird and disturbing to think about.

It's interesting to think that like you see it takes the logic of he said that he was the only man that they could trust enough to put out into this area of the desert which was completely unmanned. No one was out there and it was filled with dangerous

radioactive ghosts and they kept telling him it's because he was a great soldier. And I'm starting to think it's the exact opposite. I think they wanted him dead. The men of Nellis believed in range for Harry so fervently that many of the men who took the assignment

on range four refused to carry out their duties alone. But Charles Hall was skeptical and suspected that maybe the whole thing was a humbug played on the new guy. That all changed though when Charles spoke with an airman named Dwight whom Charles trusted

because Dwight had also told him a story about how one time he and his dad had talked to the president. So that's a guy you trust. You have to. Yeah absolutely. Was it on an airplane with Jeffrey Epstein? Well Dwight said that when he saw range for Harry

it gave off a fluorescent light that while soft still hurt your eyes. Another airman named Rigby also saw range for Harry and afterward refused to go out into the desert alone and unarmed. Always went out with another dude and a loaded pistol.

Okay. The first person to recognize that range for Harry was not a horse but was in fact a humanoid though was a fellow weather observer named Jackson. And that's how the Millennial Hospitality goes. Charles Hall only refers to

these men by like their first names like Jackson, Matt. He changed everything twice over. He first changed all the names and then he said he changed all the locations and as we get a little bit later in the episode we'll see that's kind of where people then search for proof where they try to line up the things he talked about geographically

and topographically to certain places around Air Force bases to prove that it's real. But he changed a lot of stuff and he didn't do really good with like the things that like a biography normally have like details. Right. And like like facts and like dates

and like proper sequenching of like sequential like placings of like ideas. Well it seems like that's a long way of saying truth. It seems like there's not a lot of truth in that but we'll see. I'm sure we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Well Jackson said that range for Harry looked like

a thin human all chalk white with blonde hair and blue eyes. Hmm. However he did say that range for Harry looked at him the same way a horse looks at a human. I have no idea. I grew up around horses that have no fucking clue what he's talking about.

All right. Hey, where are you going? No. Need a ride. Need a ride. What are you doing? No. Want to get up there? Nope. I don't know how horses look like a sly look like a horse looks at a human the same way he looks at a tree the same way he looks at a fucking cat. Horse looks at everything the same.

It's just a horse. Horses are very smart though. But I thought a horse gives you like a certain amount of affection. Oh yeah. I'm not talking about like sex but I mean yeah I'd take affection from a horse. A horse is a big horse. You're such a big little horse. Now you're talking my language. But you never had a favorite horse.

Don't horses like run up to you and you scruff their rough and you like go and you play with their mane and stuff and give them a wax down. Give them kisses. Yeah. I mean you put a little carrot in your mouth and say hey have a carrot. Do you do that a lot? No I've never done that but you could do that. Why haven't you done it? Have fun with it.

You have horses. You could lady in the tramp with a horse. Yeah why don't you. I just like petting a horse. Horse is very pretty. Very pretty. Very soft. Yes indeed. But you have muscular. Very muscular. Ride them hard. Leave them wet. That's what I heard. Oh yeah. Sometimes

they flap their tail around and show you their butthole. That's fun. Jackson was also the first guy to get close enough to speak to range for Harry and when Jackson told the tall white his rank and name introducing himself

the tall white responded by saying quote you may call me range for Harry but that was a fairly peaceful interaction. Yeah. Another airman named Zimmerman was not so lucky. That might have been Bob Dylan.

Really? After hearing a tale of Zimmerman being badly burned by range for Harry Charles Hall checked the medical records and sure enough he claims to have seen actual pictures of bone deep burns that were similar to wounds caused by extreme radiation

exposure and with those pictures were Zimmerman's statements that he'd been burned by a radioactive horse. Damn. So cool. I want to play a radioactive horse in a video game. Zap people with my

cockroaches and give cool people rides. By the way, thank you to the creators and the wonderful designer for Last of Us 2 for giving us a small shout out. Marcus found it. Yeah, I found it. I saw it. It's really cool. It's very strange to see yourself in a video game and to know that we most likely

all three died on outbreak day. Cool. Make me an atomic horse in Last of Us 3. No, now you have demands. I'm just asking. It would be fun. Now play Henry the atomic horse. I like it like Chopin could do a side quest where you got to find me apples.

Yeah, that's such an exciting side quest. I play a lot of games where that's where all the side quests are. Just when you thought Death Stranding couldn't get more boring, make it about apples. It was amidst all these stories that Charles Hall was assigned to weather reading

duties at the old shack on range 4 after an airman named Sullivan declared he would never again return to the area no matter what. This is one thing that is interesting that he would he would talk about how everyone's reactions out in the desert. I don't know if it was just to boost

up his own bravery, but there is something to it because if you people talk about the skin walker ranch being like one thing in general you hear is that you just walk around there and you just feel the fucking hairs in the back of your neck stand up, right? There is just something about this concept of you're out in the middle

of nowhere, but you feel like you're observed and so that was the thing that they said about this area of the world which has been brought up in alien lore for forever. Like this is the underground caverns in the middle of like in the deserts of New Mexico and

Wyoming, like all these, the central stripe of America have always been associated with reptilians, greys, all sorts of alien life living underneath it and people saying when they go under there or going under the ground I don't know if it's just the humans natural reaction

to kind of harsh circumstances that we kind of feel afraid or something but this part of the world like they just were freaked out by it. And Wyoming of course it's a bull. It's a bull. That's why you'll notice the winds are different. There's dust.

It's a bull. Fascinating country. Fascinating. Now since Charles didn't really believe in all that radioactive horse business he had no problem going out to the range alone to take readings. I think he called it poppycock. Yeah. Poppycock. And that's a strong language.

Poppycock. Yes. But Sullivan, the man whom Charles had replaced flipped out when he discovered Hall was heading out alone. According to Millennial Hospitality Charles Hall's book this is what Sullivan told him and this is a direct reading from the book.

You shouldn't do that Charlie. It's too dangerous. It's just too dangerous. They'll come Charlie. They always do. Even in the barracks they always come. They're curious Charlie. They're curious about everything. How they love the darkness. They come just to look.

And when Charles asked Sullivan just who was coming to look Sullivan said, It's the creatures. The white creatures. The white creatures Charlie. They'll come. They always come. It's a very dramatic dramatic army branch here.

Interesting. As far as what Charles's job out in the weather shack was he coincidentally was in charge of setting off weather balloons which even a passing student of ufology knows has been the skeptics de facto explanation of the crash at Roswell.

What Charles discovered out in the desert was that over the previous seven years over 1,000 weather balloons still in their original packaging have been discarded unused by airmen who were too scared to actually do the work. They just drove out there threw them up

and then drove back. According to Sullivan when they were first getting together because Sullivan was training Charles and Charles was just taking it back what I always remember about Sullivan was just how handsome his hair was and how pressed his suit was. I was like that's the most

soldier soldier I've ever seen in my life and he just loved Sullivan. Talk about how handsome he was for like three or four pages and then Sullivan told him listen here's the thing you could just make up the winds every Monday when they need the winds I don't stick around here I come around here I stay at range one

I stay range one I never go to range three or four you go out here but you know what I just always send in stuff the big thing is if you're ever sending in fake winds write down the number four the government loves the number four they just love it and you can use it at any time and so Charles Hall would go like he doesn't understand so he showed up and

apparently this place which should have been this is a top secret nuclear testing facility where they also like run new air technology in and out and they were just saying they were just throwing given fake weather data for years

well that doesn't sound good no I don't think it's I don't think that's good I don't know and Charles insisted on doing the job right and it was while he was in the middle of doing his duty that he had his first encounter with the tall whites okay now at first Charles only saw white fluorescent

patches floating in the distance this is the shit that's fucking interesting because he would pop in and out right he would see these sort of like squares white squares of fluorescence that kind of come in kind of the way when we were talking with John Tenney for a patreon interview this week we talked about how like people see the same

UFO but in different shapes and forms and people see the same anomalous thing that's what's weird that he saw like this floating patch but then it's it turned into something else the longer he saw it cool yeah John Tenney said in Michigan people are seeing a triangle with legs walking

around weird yeah and cubes covered with hair wow yeah but when Charles nonchalantly told the other men what he'd seen they once again flipped out because as Charles told describes it in his book there was nary and airman at Nellis who wasn't

one step away from a full hysterical breakdown whenever the tall whites were mentioned how did we win the cold war how did we win anything when Charles spoke of the lights an airman that he named Matt said he'd seen a big flying saucer shaped like a flattened sphere

a lip sodal as they called it out in the desert outside of the UFO where three tall thin chalk white humanoids sleeping in hammocks strung between the trees or as Charles Hall keeps saying hammocks

he's a hammock he just says hammocks it makes my brain hurt every single time I hear it but the tall whites because they were so soft they needed to sleep in hammocks because beds would hurt their thin alien bones

well actually that doesn't make sense the hammock is not that comfortable I think it's an overrated form of leisure yeah hammock really isn't all that great you always get twisted up and it's not comfortable at all no I'm stressed going in I'm stressed coming out I'm supposed to spend my whole fucking afternoon relaxing

in this hammock knowing for a fact that I'm gonna come spilling out at any time it's scary stuff I'm not a fucking baby to put me in a Bjorn I'm an adult I'm on vacation I want a chair as far as those ships go Charles described them as being white pods somewhat shaped

like tic-tacs to me the artist rendition sorta looks like the top section of an El Carina you know what an El Carina looks like big ol' jubbler's El Carina I met her in Portland at the Lucky Devil Lounge

it's an instrument it's like a flute but it's like kind of fat on top but it's got like a yeah it's a lipsoidal at the Lucky Devil Lounge like I said it's for like beautiful Irish women and big fat dudes at Renaissance fair I want to go to a run fair so bad

me too but as Charles continued his duties he discovered that perhaps his assignment wasn't what he thought it was according to his buddy Dwight all of Hall's submitted wind reports were being tossed in the garbage and when Charles tried phoning in the reports

he was told they weren't needed and if men were getting away with just tossing weather balloons on the ground for seven years and if Charles's reports weren't being read and if nobody even cared what he was doing out there then the real question was what was he doing out there

when Charles started questioning his role he found out one night as he was taking readings he spotted a small white creature hiding behind some sagebrush occasionally peeking out hi hello

Charles asked if it needed help but when it ran off Charles followed it in his truck eventually Hall managed to corner the creature in a thick sagebrush patch and that's when Charles discovered he had been chasing a three foot tall white skinned little girl

he said she was much thinner than an ordinary girl and she had oversized eyes molded to the side of her head almost like a deer Christina Ricci it's a little Christina Ricci life it's a little bit like Christina Ricci yeah and her hands only had four fingers

which ended in short sharp claws and there was a little section of Sullivan's story where he did say that he saw a tall white accompanied by its child and the child attacked him with these claws

so these are actually the most dangerous form of tall white because this is before they learn how to control their impulses because they attack on instinct and they could righteously eff your ass up and of course I mean the child

I would assume that phase is like 200 years yeah I think so I think they do describe it as being about like 200 years right they're around for a while they gotta they take so much milk they take so much milk to make them it does yeah

well feeling both sympathetic and terrified Charles treated the whole situation with calm and care backing up his truck to let the little girl go when he came to realize that she was not in any way human but when he let her out he heard a loud shrill sound from behind

the truck so he hightailed it back to the weather shack however he felt as if he was being followed and when he turned around he saw another white creature this one six feet tall terrified Charles drove back to the base calming himself by saying that what

he'd seen was probably some bizarre undiscovered species of seagull oh yeah seagull always looks like kids I always throw breads at kids just walking down the street thinking they're seagulls get out of here get out of here crazy seagull yeah

but before he returned to the base he said he felt the presence of one of the creatures thanking him for finding the child which freaked out Charles so much he had to pull over and vomit oh he vomits a lot he does he vomits quite a bit he talks about vomiting being tired he talks about being vomiting

he talks about vomiting from being hurt he talks about being vomiting from fear and he talks about vomiting from being happy he vomits quite a bit in millennial hospitality once he got back to Nellis the base cook Smokey had a thermos of coffee

eight pieces of toast eggs and bacon waiting on the order of the base general who'd somehow been aware of what had just transpired between Charles and the tall white child this is something I don't this is where the book also kind of breaks down in terms of I have no clue what the fuck's going on here

apparently the aliens would contact the general saying your guy's doing good out here in order to thank him the general himself would order a big breakfast for Charles to have like Charles was a hobbit and this was the only way

to give him like money wouldn't help or a medal wouldn't help that all Charles Hall would need is bacon so he's just like give that guy a big old breakfast which one the one who called my wife a fat bitch this is insane so Smokey who for

some reason was carrying messages for the general told Charles that because of his calm and kindness he need not be afraid of anything white out on the ranges ever again it never explained why the base cook was the liaison between the general and Charles Hall

okay things are real loose at Nellis Air Force Base because everybody knows everybody's business and general even though this is a highly covert base next to an even more highly covert base filled with aliens

then you don't it's strange you need a big breakfast Henry sounds like you need a big breakfast after that the tall white sightings came with greater regularity Charles noticed that the soft fluorescent light that everyone had described

was actually a trick of the light because the clothing the tall whites wore appeared to be made from something close to aluminum what is this fooboo very interesting but when Charles did see a tall white it was usually when they were in motion

as he usually saw them as they were sprinting across the desert at speeds of up to 35 miles per hour they would do the Naruto run straight up arms back hair blowing behind them he would see there are certain images that are kind of burning my mind just from

thinking about it and I think it's got something to do with all the hash that I have but the idea of like driving and looking up into the desert and just seeing like this weird tall white long haired thing standing in a brush and then arms back

hair flying as dust shoots around them as they zoom back and forth around that's fun as hell honestly that's Kevin Barnett's dream life all he wanted to be was Naruto just isn't for Halloween once very good outfit when Charles started seeing the tall whites more

and more he decided to start following them but the speed at which they ran 35 miles per hour was much faster than Charles's top speed of 8 miles per hour he timed himself he was trying to be the fastest man in 10 feet and what he would do is

literally run 30 yards he would set up 30 yards and time himself and then do the math to see how fast it was to go back and forth just to see if they really were running that much faster than he could run yeah I think they are so you can just see the people smoking cigarettes

just be like what's Charles doing just being a fucking idiot I can't wait to the tall whites kill him yeah somehow he's racing himself and losing I really think they were fattening them up like a fucking pig too just give them all the food just trying to see

what weapon the tall whites use to kill him they set up a whole Truman show version of the army where they were all just being like yeah Charles is the smartest cadet we've ever had you're the best one just keep going out there why don't you go poke him a little bit see what happens

when you shoot this air horn at him alright let's just see what happens but you know even though the fastest human ever live it was saying that's about 28 miles per hour Charles figured maybe if he starts training he can catch up to the tall whites

so he started training because you know he didn't really have a whole lot to do doesn't sound like it but as he was practicing his broad jump by himself in the middle of the Mojave Desert outside of his water shack I would fucking pay money to see you dude this is me because we're shaped exactly the same

me and Charles all he slipped, smashed his knee fell into a thorn patch and vomited and it's immediately it's like it's like his way of keeping predators away from him well hurt and screaming

in pain with no hope of rescue Charles saw a tall white again hiding behind the sage brush little help eventually another one arrived and they finally came out of hiding with what looked like an old timey doctors bag and for some reason this fucking

freaked out Charles but you know he was terrified but still calm and he managed to get up and limp back to the shack the reason why though an explanation for the reason why he might be so scared is that they talk about sometimes in abduction scenarios especially the grays are traditionally more scary than all of the other

aliens whatsoever except of course the reptilians but the reptilians are pretty rare in terms of people having direct experiences with reptilians so the idea is that something so not human is in front of you that your body has a nervous reaction like literally you hunch

like a cat and you do you have this sort of like out of body experience because you're meeting another ultra predator that you can't understand and can fucking kill you in a second with a laser beam well they did back off

but once Charles got inside the shack a telephone call came from Nellis saying a woman had called the pentagon to say Charlie had broken his leg and needed help and they were calling to see if he in fact needed help they called the pentagon one of the tall whites called the pentagon

they called the pentagon what phone did they call they just called the building we don't know right now in this point of the story is that there is an entire base filled with aliens down the street from where they're at so they had

like lunch rooms and shit and they had phones in that area so yeah they used to you think the pentagon didn't have anything else going on the pentagon just was like oh dumpy dump fuck fell in a thorn bush they all love him they're all really focused on Charles in the story

well a few days later Charles was setting off a balloon at 4 30 a.m. near a generator shack when he saw white lights coming from the cracks in the shack doors he went in to shut off the generator when he turned around he was faced with range 4 harry and range 4 harry

was looking at his dick like he never saw something so special well this encounter like many of Charles Hall's encounters with the tall whites is somewhat confusing although it's hard to say whether the confusion comes from the encounter or from Hall's writing

I am so fucking confused at any rate Charles said that harry pointed his pencil like instrument at Charlie's temple and told him that this wasn't going to hurt but his generals really needed to inspect that damaged knee they had to look at him and make sure that he could be carefully looked at without freaking

or vomiting all over there do you know how hard it is to clean fabricized aluminum it's a lot yeah alright so they gotta look at the knee you gotta look at the knee yeah sure Charles's vision then blurred for what felt like only a few seconds but when he regained his composure two

hours had passed after that there were a few incidents of slight weirdness one time the phone at the shack rang irregularly and another time Charlie saw tumbleweeds change direction mid tumble but for the most part the tall whites backed off for a little while

this is a boring part of the fucking book yeah okay when we get to the point where we're describing how tumbleweeds move yeah that's when I'm like what what if I fall asleep to death yeah and never wake up sure sometime later though the tall whites came back

they arrived on a floating platform wearing fluorescent suits and helmets but when Charles first saw them from a distance they appeared to cast the shape of a large horse alright what are the what are the odds that this is just a rush doing a USO show I mean it

does sort of feel like they are practicing with new they're out they just they needed to find room for their new like stage play for their new huge like lifting pieces for their movement shows oh movement shows we forgot what the word concert is because we had to work for so long

to get out of my house I miss the movement shows I need anything man I'm losing my ability to describe things well what this kind of shows is that you know in the past when they mince it when the men said hey we saw this big radioactive horse out there

what they were actually seeing were the tall whites on the floating platform it was all a trick of light I see so after a little hide and seek with these tall whites Charles was able to get a good look at the group that's when he saw that the tall whites traveling on the platform were actually

a small family they were family according to what Charles white later discovered the tall whites actually have family structures much like we do with uncles and cousins and so on and so forth hmm there's not as much like fake sex play between them

yeah they take their families more seriously yeah arrogantly tall whites always made sure to point out that they love their children much more than we love ours what are you talking about I just watched a stepmom walking on her son masturbating and then she finished him off

family therapy I think it was called that's what it was called I didn't watch it I did some bad term for it I didn't watch it but back when Charles encountered his first family of tall whites he decided to approach them like he approached cattle

back in his home state of Wisconsin oh he's a Wisconsin boy Wisconsin boy no Wisconsin accent at all no accent in any way whatsoever oh we don't have an accent you have an accent we don't have an accent Charles advanced slowly trying not to spook him

but when he did so they all stood up straight as if they were preparing for an attack yeah because nothing is more spooky than someone is like what but that's when he was humming this mantra to make sure that he kept himself together you know

never be scared of the small man they're always kind always be scared of the tall white man it's gonna be stuck in my head for a very long time and I'm gonna sing it at a very inappropriate moment

well suddenly range 4 Harry appeared and started communicating with Charles through a thought transference helmet that Harry was wearing and since the family were also wearing the helmets everyone's thoughts including Charles's were linked Charles tried to communicate

that he wasn't there to hurt anyone but the woman of the family wouldn't quit thinking that Charles was gonna tear them to pieces and stuff them in quote those terrible garbage cans how would he why would they be scared of him they are more scared of us than we are of them

they're scared of all humans but they have the power to obliterate us but we also have the power to obliterate them they go about 90 pounds they're very fragile I'm not even that strong and I could rip a tall white apart with my bare hands

if you got in a tall white yeah you could very easily beat a tall white to death you could grab a grey's head and fucking smash it against a wall and a skull will crack you could take your hand and shove it up a fucking grey's no ass you could make an asshole pull out its guts

if you want to they're that fragile if you're thinking about it like that that's what you want to do with your life if you met an alien you could do that but they can control your body though and that's when they get you yeah it seems like it after about 10 minutes of this woman freaking out and Charles saying

I'm not going to hurt ya she finally made her way over to Harry and the child soon followed then Harry thanked Charles for not moving a muscle during the entire ordeal and Charles went back to the weather shack but Charles was still hearing their thoughts and he overheard Harry

tell the woman that Charles would never hurt them because he was so much more intelligent than everyone else and in fact Harry had never seen a man as intelligent as Charles but he will annoy them Charles is just this never no one has ever believed in Charles

and he had to make up a whole series of events where a bunch of people believed in him just so that he could feel what it's like to hear a bunch of people say you're great Charles you're doing good Charles he never heard that once I'm Tony Robbins in his life

he needs a little encouragement he needs some encouragement the whole book no one ever says a bad word about him in the entire book it's just a bunch of people telling him how smart he is how brave he is how wonderful he is how fucking gutsy he is

it's all been like Charles got got well after that the Tall Whites pretty much started fucking with Charles in the same way one might tease a pet producing unknown elements into his environment just to see what he would do one day Charles

saw a white parachute floating around the gate of the base which caused him to what else vomit uncontrollably of course he really man the next day out on the range he saw a piece of plastic floating which caused him to

vomit again it's like my honestly Wendy vomits a lot you know this little dog in his defense it is a great safety mechanism like if you're gonna go beat the shit out of someone and all of a sudden they start vomiting you're like

I'm gonna vomit well as he did his weather duties throughout that day the parachute appeared again and followed him and when he got back to the base he said that he had the distinct feeling that the parachutes were happy that he was safe back at his home

which seems like a weird kind of like dream this does seem like he saw something that his brain could not comprehend at all for some reason the parachutes that's what it seems like to me I mean maybe it's just bad writing but it could also be that there was just he interpreted these structures

or these creatures or these you know whatever as parachutes it is bad writing but I do think that he did see stuff that's where the story goes off into fucking zee new land after all of this

but I do think that he saw this is the normal part of the story this is the reasonable part but how many times have we heard tell of stories of people seeing these type of weird anomalous activities that they go out there and they can't understand so your brain goes

I don't really I've never heard of so many people vomiting when they saw weird stuff but normally you go like huh that's weird that's a normal response to it soon after that though Charles Hall finally made contact with the tall white that he came to know

as the teacher on that day Charles got a call from an airman who said he'd just seen an airliner crash out in the desert even though no planes were flying in the area that day Charles sent out a few men to check it out but they soon reported that while there was no crash

one of the airmen had been burned badly on the forehead and was having trouble staying conscious huh and the airman finally came too he said through racking sobs that when they arrived at the craft it appeared as though an airplane without wings

or a tail was on fire and the airman started shouting for everyone to exit the craft lest they burn alive at that moment he said four white terrible little mutants emerged and growled at him with a noise that sounded like a coyote

mixed with a horse and the creatures were followed by a tall white woman she shouted in perfect English that the creatures which were definitely tall white children were only playing with him and that he needed to run away immediately if he wanted to survive

that's the opposite of playing with him that's totally being serious with him not knowing what to do the airman grabbed the woman by the arm because he thought that she was in danger and that caused two male tall whites to run out of the fuselage stupid idiot run for your life

oh my goodness but still the airman tried taking the woman thinking he was saving her and that's when one of the men pulled out his pencil device and burned the airman on the forehead the airman dropped and the male called him a stupid pig whoa jeesh

he said you had no right to touch the teacher and I'd kill you if my captain would only give me the authority but you did call me a stupid pig that's not quite killing me I have a stupid pig they then drove the airman back to his weather shack

pressing the pencil against his forehead and burning him again and again saying are you gonna get out of here are you gonna get out of here the airman then passed out and when he came to his friend Steve was there and they called Charles because Charles was the only one who had ever had a positive experience

with the tall whites however from what I can tell the only reaction was what do you want me to do about it come on Charles this is your chance you can be a hero what were you gonna do mess up his relationship with the tall whites he's been working on this for a while what is he's just

what's he gonna do go out there and shoot him no he should go talk to them they only talk to you if they want to talk to you soon after the pod snafu though another airman named Brian had an encounter with the so called teacher the airman said the teacher showed up in the airman barracks

wearing what was obviously a wig along with a lot of makeup although he could still tell that her skin was chalk white they were not good at makeup okay she told Brian that he could call her the teacher and that she was waiting to talk to Charlie fortunately though Charlie

he was off in Vegas that night oh okay yes he was making everyone very uncomfortable at the craps table so the woman thanked Brian for his time and ran off at an incredible speed saying she had to get back to her trailer park I just think it's just all of this weird shit

where she could call the pentagon immediately and knows when he's been hurt psychically but she had no clue that he was on vacation in Vegas and she still got all done in her I'm a person get up to go talk to him well that's where it's strange to me I know there's a lot of things that don't make a lot of sense

but these are the things that are just like what are we talking about here why would she do all this yeah it doesn't really have any like makes sense no rationality or anything like that but does that point towards it being more true

or I mean think about it this way does your life follow a plot does mine a little bit kind of I mean I knew I was coming to work I knew like I know sort of sort of in a way but I mean anything can and will happen at any time

yeah but not really you can have sex with a talking horse tomorrow you don't know you don't know what's going to happen Ben all right okay that's true after that the tall whites furthered their contact and concocted a ruse to corner Charles

posing as doctors just make a big breakfast and he will show up posing as doctors they set up an appointment with Charles by telling him he was going in for a standard visit to the neurosurgeon oh yes oh I always do my monthly visit to the neurosurgeon I always go

just to have him look just to see like is your brain still there and Charles showed up though he found an unusually thin receptionist wearing a wig heavy makeup gloves and a dress with long sleeves despite the desert heat and she had Charlie wait for 30 minutes

oh that's it you're going to have to you're going to have to say he has some magazines though if you want them but you notice that these are kind of similar to the descriptions of the men in black yeah where they did just look strange absolutely nothing really fits and you know for a fact sometimes you're in a doctor's

office no one else is there you're still waiting for 30 minutes it's a power trip they just want to make you wait yeah the doctors in there god knows we just hoping on laughing gas just like playing with the scalpels when Charles was finally brought in to talk to the quote unquote doctor

he instead found what he believed to be a security agent but it might also have been a tall white in disguise after some bizarre small talk involving fruit trees in San Francisco Charles can you explain to me why do some trees have eggs

that's a very good question actually I'm not really certain I guess fruit are eggs right aren't fruit eggs yeah that's a great conversation to have after that the man told Charles he passed the patients test

by waiting quietly for 30 minutes then the man directed Charles exit the room and walk for one mile without turning around once which is biblical it's interesting it's like the story of Sodom and Gomorrah Charles was then told that he would be

stationed alone out in the desert until further notice and that he would only be allowed to leave his post once every six months for no more than two weeks that's not that bad two weeks good vacation Charles was also told that he had a new name when he was out

in the desert if he was asked what his name was out there he was told to say either friend of the teacher or teacher's pet oh god I never want to be brought in an office and told that my new name is teacher's pet oh that's not good

oh well because this shows this is the thing where they're telling him openly like we can kill you at any time like if this is all real like we are not even pretending we are just now in this world of the weird neutral alien agenda

we don't know what they want from you this is all you know this is putting the everything is true hat on and so they are putting out there being like we'll kill you maybe we're trying to figure out what to do with you and what we decide what to do what you'll find out later on is that they were using Charles to nurse

the younger ones to get them used to being around humans before they were allowed to be around human generals and human mucky mucks at the human side of the air force base of course and when Charles was given all these instructions he naturally asked why he

was chosen the security agent told him that he'd been picked because he was patient and that the pentagon had picked him particularly because of his quote incredible reasoning ability I think well I'm gonna say technically the reason

why we chose you is because you're a little bitch and we can do whatever we want to you and you never scream incredible reasoning the man then ducked out but not before saying he couldn't believe the guts Charles had it's almost like he's making it up

any single time someone keeps telling you you're brave it means you're doing something they would never do they are very scared for you and you are in constant danger you just have to have a lump in your brain or some kind of wall between your direct understanding of reality

and your consciousness to not see like I think I might be like a goat on a stick out here like Jurassic Park yeah so once Charles was stationed in his permanent post the teacher finally showed herself six feet tall the teacher was pleasant and friendly

and Charles said that when he looked at her he felt as if he was looking at a beautiful horse how does that feel how does that feel what it even feels this is the kind of guy who feels colors you know like he doesn't see anything really but he has

he has a sixth sense about him perhaps yeah some sort of like synesthesia thing I mean I think essentially what he was saying is that like if there was a horse that you'd want to fuck she would be that horse she's a fuckable horse there's never been one there's never been a horse but that's why you're not military grade Henry

that wasn't covered in hair that had normal human breasts had a vagina I could see without moving a tail I mean unless I wanted a butt plug to be in there with a tail on it but even that's kind of weird Henry it sounds like you don't have any guts doesn't sound like you have

a lot of guts at all my friend it's your pony play you have a little fun you prance around I'm fine I'm fine with being a pony cowboy pony boy pony boy but even so the tall whites did indeed treat Charlie like an amusing pet one day Charles had the unfortunate task of unloading

12 heavy helium cylinders from his truck into the weather shack in the desert heat man he got exactly what he fucking asked for Charles went to the fucking head of the office and he bitched about how no one actually was doing the weather and they threw out all the fucking balloons and they threw out all the helium tanks

and then finally he was like I just can't believe that no one's actually doing the weather work around here and they were like alright here's all the weather work go lift these 12 fucking helium fucking cylinders by yourself dude because that's what the real weatherman's supposed to be doing you could be skating right now

well I have fun with it blow up some balloons make them doves that's all he does it's his whole job his whole job is blowing up balloons like he's a simple man at a car wash well those people are needed well as he begun unloading the cylinders he noticed a tall white woman

and a child staring at him from about 20 feet away after the sixth cylinder Charles laid down to rest and a tall white man appeared jokingly Charles offered the tall whites a coke and some corn chips if they'd help out but he got no answer so he kept moving the cylinders

alone they didn't want his fucking corn chips they didn't they didn't care about corn chips I guess I'll just eat my 7-eleven breakfast on my own well after the ninth cylinder Charles got a call from the base commander commending him on his bravery because apparently the commander

the major and the general were all somehow watching to see if Charles was going to get killed in this interaction he had no idea what he was out there for he did not understand that if all of this is real he was literally out there to be killed they were sure he was going to get murdered

he's got guts that is actually what he called his like I can't believe how brave you are right now he was like I don't understand all of the calls and all of the probably everybody saying I'm brave I'm sitting here simply here filling balloon you shouldn't be mad you should be running

you should be getting the hell out of there like Sullivan was screaming like a fucking maniac and Charles said thank you that's great and then continued moving the cylinders but being so exhausted he started vomiting again I don't know I'm sure you vomited

like when you're working out like doing when I'm working out like in high school in football practice that maybe vomited maybe maybe once no I remember we were encouraged

to vomit during hockey practice oh yeah I'd vomit every two days but yeah I guess okay sure it was the only way to show you had to be crying and vomiting or you weren't I guess like masculine enough like you had to push it my problem is that I vomited once

and then I was like I don't like this no you have to work out throughout the summer and then when you go to your two days you're still in fine shape so you don't vomit that's outsposed to happen but doesn't always work I didn't do it I would just quit but yeah well after Charles

recovered the teacher and a child approached him Charles playfully tossed her a block of wood which she caught and threw back he said he threw a block of wood at this person who's been number one you know that they are easily agitated

and they will burn you to death with their laser beams or just fucking paralyze you and he's just like sure I was having a fun game of toss wood and I've never played a fun game of toss wood no I didn't know that was a game once he caught it and she threw it back but Charles was so exhausted he didn't catch it

hit him in the head and vomited again just fucking and they were just laughing man and that's when a fully armed tall white male showed up looking a little threatening Charles communicated to the teacher that he met no harm and then he vomited again

sorry sorry I just think vomiting is my favorite he is the fat kid in stand by me there is so much vomit in this he's not in an eating competition he's just doing nothing with these creatures and he's just vomiting up corn chips

and coke coke well trying to put everyone at ease after he stopped vomiting Charles started telling jokes to the tall whites of course it's a great opening act so you eat corn chips you slam a bunch of coke and vomit then it's time for humor

then it comes the jokes then comes the real entertainment that was the appetizer supposedly the jokes even though Charles admits the jokes were bad he wouldn't even put the jokes in the book he didn't even put the jokes in the book it was infuriating that he just like the jokes were bad

but the teacher laughed hysterically it's so annoying but he said that the teacher laughed the laugh of a tall white is a bark like ah alright alright I will assume they're laughing

which is how I spend most of my life Charles had even managed to crack up two of the tall whites off in the distance causing one to admit quote general he sure has guts what how that doesn't even he's telling jokes

but that doesn't take guts that takes a sense of humor but you know it does take guts to try heaving immediately after he's very tired well he hasn't more vomited him and at that moment

an american air force colonel stepped out from the building where Charles had been loading the cylinders guy had been in there the whole time whole time watching a masterbaton from the corner god knows what he's doing in there I don't know why he was hiding in the shed no idea as the colonel stepped out the teacher confusingly told Charles

that the next time he had to help the tall whites for free I don't know what the fuck that means and then Charles passed out until 4am when he came to the remaining cylinders were unloaded they did the work for him and all you have to do is vomit a lot

that's one thing about the american work force we will make sure we keep going in 2021 vomit until you lose all responsibility you know what one thing we forgot to mention the very beginning was that he technically where the sort of the first layer of trust came from

was that he saved the young child of the the tall whites he found some kid and he cleared sage brush so that the kid could get out and ever since then they thought that he actually was a good one

because the kid somehow for some reason the kid didn't kill him yeah he was calm you know he was very calm very loving he gave off a good vibe from then on the tall whites were at ease with Charles but they still terrified him

sometimes he'd sing out loud in their presence just to keep his shit together which usually caused the tall whites to bark laugh once again I like big butts in a can online all the other brothers can't do nothing you're like what is this

but they did end up having some conversations and Charles was able to figure out small details about the tall whites as far as where they came from they wouldn't tell him but he figured their home planet was about 105 light years from earth now why did he figure that

Henry made it up he tried to say he tried to make up a concept about how he thought they knew about stars but I think all that kind of came after the fact as far as why they were there Charles could never figure that out either

but he was led to believe that earth would be a sort of way station for lengthy interstellar trade routes run by the tall whites basically the US government this is the later on in books 2 and 3 he explains a little bit more about how the tall whites had an

arrangement with the US government kind of like the greys but with the greys they allowed us to abduct us and use us for their hybrid programs to get weaponry the tall whites were used to get some form of technology but they did not believe in abducting us

they didn't want to mix their DNA with ours so they were allowed to have big swaths of underground bases where they would go and they would bring their giant essentially what used to trade ships in there were these huge ellipsoidal things that were double hold this is after the fact of what Charles Holt

said he figured out with his research and what was told as he got higher and higher quote unquote security clearance and that within these two holes was a series of fiber optic cables that allow the ships to fuzz out in order to do all the weird aerodynamic things that we see UFOs

do that would kill normal pilots stop on a dime, move super fast but what they would do is they would come to earth this was like a way station sort of a fix it spot where they would never share technology with the US government much to their disappointment but what the US government would do

is leave out things for them to use like give them like metal give them tools and they would use them using their own science and that every once in a while they would take one of their crafts and fix it on their own and be like there you go that's payment thank you for allowing us to fix our ships with your materials

we just fixed one of yours so they would fix vehicles they were just mechanic that was they were space mechanics and that was currency this is the movie space truckers well as far as how long the tall whites had been there they were again vague but one of them did suggest that they'd been

in the Americas in one form or another since the administration of President James Madison early 1800s but even though it seemed as if Charles Hall was just a play thing to the tall whites he was apparently doing a task that was of extreme importance

when it came to the interaction between the alien race and our own government on Charles's last encounter with the tall whites the entire base was emptied out except for Charles and Smokey the cook Smokey's very important somehow yes you gotta have breakfast

it's the most important meal of the day that is actually why Charles that's why he said Smokey was left behind because somebody had to make him food I hate when I'm accidentally dumb you're being purposefully dumb you're being purposefully dumb but you are correct yes okay

once they were alone though truckloads of Pentagon personnel showed up along with a whole crew of tall whites after the tall whites immobilized Charles with a strange white cube pressed to his head tall whites suddenly had complete and total control

over Charles's movements and speech great look we're making him scratch his butt now he's scratching the other side of his butt that guy's got guts once they did that an American general emerged from one of the trucks and he was met by the tall white ambassador

and they did that handshake thing where slap slap slip and slap and then they touched boots yeah finally the teacher appeared and 15 tall whites followed her in perfect English she introduced Charles Hall to the 15 tall whites this is Karen

Andrew Madison this is Mackintosh this is Tomassian a new type of white when I was growing up I was going to name my children and I thought they were good names but of course they're horrible names

isn't that interesting the strange of the brain changes though Liberty's a fun name for a girl that's bad though I didn't know Liberty yet this is my daughter Freedom this is my other daughter Liberty and they'd be like are you a pedophile

well after she introduced Charles Hall to the 15 tall whites she made sure to note that they didn't know what to do with the tall whites she made sure to note that Charles was extremely intelligent he's got guts she then revealed that it was in fact

her daughter playful butterfly that Charles had saved oh so long ago in the brush the teacher then went on to say that while Charles was always terrified he never panicked never became hysterical and never ran when he encountered a tall white

instead he just stood there and sang and for that he was special he just he just he's writing this he's a grand old flash he's a high fly I simply love his attitude

as it turned out the tall white ambassador was the teacher's husband oh it all works out and he thanked Charles as well saying quote you have helped both of our governments more than you will ever know for what

I still don't know how surviving that's it then range for harry appeared and said he'd always enjoyed charlie singing that favorite song of mine of yours is incredible never be scared of the short

short man because they are kind and they have a plan they're like Charles he's got guts and after he told them that he enjoyed his singing harry pointed the pencil device at charlie's temple

and Charles just started singing against his will and then they're all like tapping and you know the human generals are fucking terrified they're just sitting watching me like oh my god is this when they finally gonna kill him I can't wait to see it

and after that Charles's mind wandered and when he came to he was alone at his desk the phone rang and when charlie answered he was told that it was all over and he could go back to whatever life he wanted to live so it was all a dream does he end this book

like it's in a snow globe what is going on he served his purpose it was all a dream no it wasn't all a dream it was all real it was all a beautiful reality I'll tell you that

now taking it face value the story of Charles Hall and the tall whites is objectively ridiculous in fact it might even be considered borderline stupid I might be upset with you too maybe I need to go and be like guys I'm going to now be a thrice producer

for the show and let's talk about topics together maybe we'll just spitball maybe I can just be like no yeah you know we just learned a lot more about tall whites and whatever their fake reality is however it might be considered borderline stupid

if not for the evidence that came afterward and here's where it gets interesting okay this is now okay now it gets interesting that's where you got we got you legally over in the knee you got me legally now the websites that support Charles Hall's story do a lot of topographical analysis

that they say proves Charles knew what he was talking about because the topographical maps match the topographical descriptions and millennial hospitality but what Charles Hall could not have foreseen when he started working on his book decades ago was the invention of google maps oh

using that tool investigators have been able to find something extraordinary in the same area Charles said he had all these encounters one can clearly see on google maps three white tic tac shaped objects

the same sort of object Charles Hall described as being the craft of the tall whites furthermore Paul Hellyer Canada's former defense minister said when he went public with his alien knowledge a few years ago that the tall whites were one of the two alien races

working with the United States government now take Paul Hellyer as you will because he also says that the council of foreign relations, the Bilderbergs the trilateral commission, the banking cartels and the oil cartels are all working to keep information about aliens from the public it's absolutely true

absolutely fucking true we can't even handle messaging about a plague that is ravaging our country without making it some political fucking bullshit you're going to deal with the tall whites coming from the sky there's also some cooperation from other

sites because he's not the only one who's necessarily talked about tall whites Betty Andreessen, during the Andreessen affair actually saw things closely described towards what these tall whites description. There was another guy named Raymond Fowler who talked about the Italian Navy

so I guess that's just a fleet of gondolas. They pursued a UFO sighting on the slopes of Mount Etna in 1978 and they saw a red pulsating dome disc landing and the witnesses encountered what they called two tall golden-haired white rope

beings accompanied by three or four shorter beings wearing helmets and space suits very very similar. This comes with the book Alien Identities by Richard L. Thompson. He's big into the Vedic movement talking all about how the the old books of Indian culture described ancient UFOs What can't be denied is the

video released just a few years ago by Tom DeLong's To The Stars Academy that at the very least proves that UFOs exist even if the video does not prove that there are aliens inside those UFOs and when you watch the video in question we showed it on our last tour

great video. An Air Force pilot is tracking an unidentified flying object that very suddenly moves out of his view but what's interesting is that this object is very similar to the white tic-tac craft that was described by Charles Hall in Millennial Hospitality

decades before. Okay. You watch this fucking blip make a turn like you watch it move against the wind and make a turn that looks like it is piloted. It has been covered endlessly by the ufology community. I think it's really really interesting. I love that video

and there's I mean ellipsoidal porcelain white ships have been seen all over the world. Jacques Valais famously covered a bunch of them that happened in South America of these big but he kind of called a more refrigerator shaped porcelain UFOs

that was that people though. And of course you can watch the last podcast live.com if you want to watch our live show you can go to the last podcast live.com and you can see Henry's fun alien segment where we show those videos and of course Marcus has some rebuttal videos. Yes I do. Of his own that are quite dare I say funny.

So it's possible these things can coexist right. Yeah. Because the tic-tac stuff I mean we've seen evidence of that. Yeah we have. And then maybe he just kind of put the story around it. Yeah. Big if true. Yeah. Big if true. Yeah. I mean it could be that the images on Google Google Maps or manmade structures that Hall merely used as inspiration for this

story could be that he was out in the desert for six months and just stared at these fucking things for a really long time until they became something else. Sure. And it could be that his experiences were a government experiment of an entirely different sort. Yeah dude honestly it could go that fucking far too.

That is one of those where you don't know what kind of mental games they're playing with you if you're just being thrown out in the desert and expected to die. I mean remember Edgewood the Edgewood chemical experiments you know where they were actually drugging dudes and you know but seeing what would happen

maybe the same thing happened with Charles Hall I don't know. Could be. I like to think that he maybe saw shit and then as time goes he expanded it and then as he realized it was because people obviously always say well they profit off of this like Charles Hall profits off of this

and I've seen some of his live shows I'm going to say live shows and I don't think he's making a lot of money. You don't think so huh. Yeah and I don't think it's leading to a lot of other work as well because he definitely tried to expand his purview

to a thing where he tried to explain how these ships work using a thing called the Hall theory of photon structure which he said is based upon his endless thinking and ruminating upon the super complicated physics theories of like relatively and string theory and that he

managed to combine them all into a brand new science called the Hall photon structure and that he only understands and those are only to be found in the appendices of books three and four where he explains it using a bunch of words. Okay in other words there's no proof here

but a lot of interesting correlations very interesting which is that's how all UFO investigation goes. You know it's interesting correlations but when you take all the evidence outside of Charles Hall's story it does suggest that at the very least some parts of the story might

have nuggets of truth. Okay. Even if Charles Hall juiced it like everybody in the paranormal community disappointingly does every single time. When I watched the documentary I was compelled by the idea of a man alone at a weather station seeing objects

in the desert seeing creatures in the desert to me there's something that is very interesting about that little story right later on when he goes on to meet the galactic commission when he meets the Nordic aliens that are born with 24 teeth and he talks about that and that's supposed to be proof that we know for a fact that he

met Nordic aliens when he talks about the greys and how he had a whole theory about Roswell about how the down ships there were three ships in the corona incident yes not Roswell incident right there were three ships and then when they were brought down one was brought down and the US government

was actually highly hesitant because the US government had secret information that actually small greys are baby teenage greys and they're the ones that pilot all ships but actually the tall greys can't exist within our dimensions that's why we never meet them but the air force didn't blow off the other two ships

that came into orbit because they didn't want to kill a bunch of teenagers and they didn't want baby blood on their hands right all right is that the tall white that's the tall white and there is the tall white you know what I know you're not finished Henry I love it this is very exciting stuff I feel like

I want to vomit what a great fun story whether it be true or not true it's a very good tale and I will err on the side that everything you just listened to folks is a thousand percent true and if you write an essay on it in class you will get an F

because that teacher is a C.I.A. stooge C.I.A. fucking stooge and you are a part of an experiment on your own so go I dare you if you are in school right now write an essay

on the existence of the tall whites in Charles Hall and prove it and get out there because if they fail you you're doing your own civic duty absolutely fucking fight in the universities if it was that fucking money system if it was easy everyone would tell the truth wouldn't that's right this was extraordinarily difficult

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