Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 426: The Dangerous UFOs of Brazil
Episode Date: October 3, 2020This week, we detail the bizarre string of aggressive UFO confrontations that have been documented in Brazil, as well as the Brazilian government's strong response to these nasty alien encounters.Kevi...n MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0
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There's no place to escape to this is the last
You know what I'm better about with these Brazilian sucka suckas sucky suckies suck sucks these suck sucks
Mm-hmm trying to make me afraid of refrigerators
What is this some kind of skinny?
conspiracy
Trying to make me afraid of flying refrigerators. I mean that's horrible right of what's happening to my body
I never want to be scared of my refrigerator. That's really bad
I'd much rather be scared of my washer and dryer so I don't have to use it that would be kind of fun
Yeah, if you thought a little goblin lived in there, and that's why you're slow your clothes slowly become covered with longer and longer shit streaks
Oh, no
That's the real horror isn't it is that how we're starting I guess so welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone
I am Ben with Marcus and with Henry as well
So today's episode this is going to be fun. We promised you something spooky
We promised you something scary because we are in October
Yeah, very excited and today we are covering dangerous UFOs not of America, but rather of Brazil
Brazil
Brazil
So you're just delighted by the fordness of it Brazil
This is gonna be a lot of fun
Brazil's got so we're gonna find out has got some of the most condensed
intense UFO activity in the entire world and it was brought to us on a platter by
Beautiful French ufologist. I want to say probably the most classically handsome ufologist. Yes, Jacques Valle. Indeed great name, too
Yes, he's very I mean he will lick your pussy. I know that
Now the alien encounters covered in this week's episode are gonna be a little different from the ones we've talked about in the past
See usually we refer to people who have had experiences with aliens as
Abductees or something similar. I think the preferred term now is
Experiencer really? Yes. Isn't that strange? But in this episode, we're gonna be referring to the people
Unfortunate enough to be involved in this particular flap as victims
We've ever cheered at the word victims Wow, I don't like that these UFOs are being very mean
Spirited in Brazil
It's like I feel like this is just grown a chef's hat
Because he keeps making the Mamma Mia
Italian fingers every single time he says
Brazil yes
Now as far as what the malevolent creatures involved here were called they had many names
They were called the light the fire the animal the worm the apparatus the machine
The thing the train or in their literal interpretation
disco voyador oh
Very cool. That's a flying plate. Although the apparatus is a little bit like do I have to be nicknamed the apparatus?
It sounds like something that's used to make a woman orgasm after she was deemed crazy in the 1910s
Well, it also sounds like the name of a guy that's a dentist during the day
But at night he wears like a dildo inside of himself the apparatus and he tries to like fuck through his dick with the dildo behind it
Like giving him back up all night. Oh my god
You just see the detective put his thumb into a pile of cum lick it with his tongue and say the apparatus
The apparatus was indeed here. I'd actually be preferred to be called on my day name Warren
But in the region of Brazil where all this we're gonna talk about today happened
They're best known as the chupa-chupa which translates literally as
the suck suck
And you know when you go down to Brazil
There's one thing you're looking for and you're actually wondering if you'll find right is some of the suck suck
Absolutely, but you don't think that you'd get the I'm gonna say the results of the suck suck in a dangerous way
No, I mean with any luck. You'll just get a lollipop. Aren't they called chupas chup. That's chup chups
Okay, different. Well, that's what they call lollipops in in Brazil. The lollipop the the this is Spanish lollipop, right?
Yeah, it's a sucker. It's like a titty roll
Or is that just is that what your German grandfather called his quote-unquote clients when he was living on it? Wow, isn't that interesting?
But there is a reason for the name suck suck
It was said by these people who lived in a fairly rural area of Brazil that each person who had an encounter with these aliens
Had holes on their body where it was assumed blood was sucked out
They it's not even just assumed there is some quite a bit of people there
They're they believe in some of these a quote-unquote attacks will say attacks
We don't know the actual agenda of these objects or in fact, they were even piloted at all
They want to want to stick to Jacques Vellet. They may want to suck they came here looking for I know just looking for a suck
But what they ended up getting was blood, but they can drain up to what they said three milliliters of blood
Damn, I mean, it's barely registable, but that is blood though
Well happening in two waves in the late 70s and to a lesser extent the early 90s
Encounters during the Brazilian UFO flap usually resulted in mild to extreme physical and mental distress in the humans
They attempted to abduct if that's what in fact they were doing if that's very true
Okay, this is sad because Brazil is so beautiful people are hanging out on the beach everyone is gorgeous
Just don't interrupt them. This is why you just like go to Pittsburgh and people will be thrilled to be like get me out of here
Let them be in Brazil. What you they did them at and they did these attacks at night quote-unquote attacks again
We I'm not gonna assume they were attacking yet
But they all of this happened at night and it happened and I want to say in some of the less beautiful parts of Brazil
Oh, maybe the coast I imagine are beautiful
Yes, but these were fishing villages where they don't often like if they have G strings a lot of times
If they if they had a pile of G strings sure use it to catch a bunch of carp. Oh
Well, mostly the extreme physical and mental distress was due to the method of abduction
Each of the experiences we're gonna cover in today's episode
Sounds like a cluster of walking nightmares with no two experiences being exactly the same although there is a running theme
Usually the UFOs appeared at night with a sudden burst of what the Brazilians refer to as
Sudden daylight. Whoa, they described it as the clean white light of an iridescent bulb
Quite often they said it felt like they went to a doctor's office
Like it's that type of like when you go to with a dentist or something like that where it was an immediate and intense very
Clear LED level spotlight, right and much like when you go to the dentist you end up molested
We all remember that Seinfeld episode which they just kind of laughed about but he was getting jerked off by his dentist
Jerry Seinfeld was this is before that was in a time when men couldn't be victims eyes
Now naturally people would run but that's when the UFO would shine a kind of tractor-beam
Lasso made of light that would slowly but surely pull the victim back
But since this is Brazil there were usually plenty of trees for people to hold on to as they were being pulled toward the craft
And if they held on to that tree or fence or whatever long enough the UFO would simply leave with few exceptions
Damn
Even through all the attacks and fear and everything else as far as we know
The aliens very rarely actually succeeded in abducting a person in this manner
Which is why Jacques Valet points to what was the agenda of either the occupants of these objects or the
phenomenon just exact as it existed so because you think if they could abduct you very easily and if they
Wanted to abduct you very easily wouldn't they just do it but now we're going to see is that maybe there's something else to it
Maybe it was an accidental or maybe it was a catch-and-release
Maybe maybe these aliens are too lazy you put up a fight and they don't want to deal with it and there you go
You're out of there. Mm-hmm. And while one might think this was mass hysteria sleep paralysis or just simple bad dreams
These encounters all occurred outside
Usually while the victims were traveling on foot and in a few cases it happened to multiple people at once
These are sightings with many witnesses
These are events that we're because they are working close-knit family groups. They're working in
They're literally working in groups. They're seeing all these things together on mass
For months for months. They're seeing this shit to the point where everybody's just staying inside. Wow. I'm just gonna say I
Karumba
Karumba on that. No, you have to do it very seriously if you're if you really want to have true gravitas you have to go I
Karumba
That sounds good
Deal is made
Furthermore in just one cluster of attempted abductions in the late 70s
35 people were hospitalized with dizziness headaches total fatigue insane diarrhea and vomiting and in many cases
burns that resembled radioactivity or
Microwave exposure in the areas where the lasso light touched the skin
That must be a rough day for your nurse when they're like, so what are the patients suffering from today?
insane diarrhea it is somehow it's coming out of their hips what in the world
These nurses were also told explicitly because the you we're gonna see the Brazilian government has rolled into town while
These flaps are taking place and they are being told they're not only dealing with all of these mysterious
Syndrome and people coming in with radioactivity burns
They are also being told by a dude and camouflage being like don't tell them fucking anything that's happening
And so they have to all of these people like what's wrong with me? What is happening to me?
And they're all like clouds
By the way every time you guys say the word flaps I feel like your body shaming me so maybe we could do a different word
No, that is the technical term any it always have to when I imagine a group of UFOs
I always imagine that you fall to just breast and
In addition all that the Brazilian government took it seriously enough where it fully admitted that UFOs were indeed real in
1986 years after the initial investigation when further evidence presented itself dude
This shit is legit as soon as you pop the lid off of this story
You will see that the Brazilian government has put a fuck ton of time energy and money into the quote-unquote UFO problem
But they could have they could have worked on the economy a little bit
No, they did something fun with their energy instead of
We need roads. Oh, we need highways
Instead decided to crack this nut and I think that that's the my biggest takeaway
From this entire story is just like holy shit. They put real fucking resources into this
Yeah, these are the most credible UFO stories that I've personally ever been involved with
All right, and I personally involved
I mean sat in my underwear watching YouTube documentaries in Portuguese
Yeah, I need to understand the gestalt of what they're saying by how their eyebrows are bouncing up and down you nailed it
But with all this together it doesn't necessarily mean that aliens were behind it all
Yeah, yeah, we know is that something sinister was going on in the 70s in and around the small town of Colaris
Near the Delta of the Amazon River in Northeastern Brazil
Don't even fucking think of saying the word alien
He'll run jock-villain really why not he will kick you in your pubic bone with his tiny French
Like little shoes really healed boot. He will step upon your big gigantic swollen
Clot-filled toe with his pointy pointy leathers. Well, then what's the fun if it's just a UFO?
I mean, I think you got to have aliens in there
No, it's just a little bit more spicy than an alien
Maybe the so-called extraterrestrial hypothesis has been wrong altogether and maybe just maybe there's some form of
Interdimensional intelligence that exists right on top of us and they don't need to come from Alpha Centauri
They don't need to come through a wormhole
They don't need to come from some from the supposed binary star system that we're a part of Marcus you too, buddy
That's a part of what's going on right now is that we're a part of the false Sun system
Look up binary star system that we're ready. You could really get some interesting literature. That's great
So anyway, ladies and gentlemen, that was a paragraph of what not to say on a first date
You'll never find love
I really hit a volume I didn't mean to but Jacques Valet
Says explicitly again that the that's what I like about Jacques Valet is that he is not trying to make this make literal sense
He's taking the evidence empirically
Okay, and saying these are the things that people are seeing does that necessarily sound like a plane or a ship?
No, so instead of saying the real then maybe we need to think about it
There's so much what seems to be first-person evidence and experience of these situations that they
There there's something to the bottom of it that may not just be a nuts and bolts craft
Maybe it's coming halfway from our own mind strangely enough. I can see you gaining weight
Isn't that weird? But let's suppose for a second that they were UFOs
Okay, and taking it further
Let's suppose that the UFOs were if not malevolent then they were at the very least
Disrespectful enough towards humans that they treated us with no more care than a child does when they pick the legs off a cockroach
Yeah, and I ain't gonna be disrespected for most space refrigerators
All right, if you go to mine
Is that a T-Mobile commercial?
LG for LG farms, wherever they grow the refrigerators. Oh, yeah refrigerator trees
I refuse to believe that my refrigerator slowly planning on
Zapping my wife's body because they attack breasts quite a bit
Is that right? That's actually really true, and I it's like leave the breasts alone aliens. No kid
And if we suppose that they were UFOs at raises questions
Why for example did all of this only happen in Brazil?
Which as far as we know is the only instance of a cluster of UFO attacks of this sort
This has never happened anywhere else before or since is it possible that the culture of Brazil is a little bit
chatty and
That they said oh my god
The and the the refrigerator showed up in the UFO showed up and they're like we really hit ourselves a pocket full of people that like to talk
And so we got to go to like Texacan or Texacarny
Texacana we got to go somewhere where people are a little bit more humble and mum
Did you read that Adele book untamed this weekend? Are you untamed?
She didn't write it she just
Adele and leave her alone off. Oh my god. Everyone needs to leave Adele alone. She's very happy and healthy and leave her alone
Thank you
Judgmental all the time, but then you're kind of heading into John Tenney world when we talk on purpose. I did that
Tenney is a paranormal researcher that we have worked with we did an interview with him for
The patreon series for last podcast and we and he is great
He's a part of the Hellier series so nice go follow him on Twitter. He's a good follow
But he talks about what if the we don't know what the agenda of whatever that intelligence is, right?
Maybe there is a mechanism within
Whatever that is whether they come from another planet or they are
Interdimensional or they come from inside our planet that are they conscious of not wanting to be seen or known and is that why it's so
Difficult to get a proper picture of them because even in this case they had cameras
They the Brazilian government is going to install an entire surveillance system for three months and only get they see shit
But they're only getting certain pictures and then we wonder why are they such shape jifters like what is it about like that?
They appearing like this in Brazil and not
That way all around the rest of the world and what is there? What is their purpose?
Yeah, and furthermore like, you know, they different areas of the world seem to have different flavors of UFO
Experiences like if you remember like up here in the northeastern United States like a lot of the UFO encounters up here
They're gigantic triangular crafts, you know Hudson Valley sightings and all that and the Phoenix lights are very very
akin to it the ideas of like seeing a thing that looks like a giant cloud and all of a sudden you realize it has like a
Structure and then they're like solid lights in it
And if you go over to Africa, then UFO encounters are a lot more shamanistic a lot more psychedelic
It's something different entirely if you want to have a fun afternoon and again make you make you less accessible as a human being
Okay, fucking spark of
Spark the longest leaf that you can fold into your lip and watch credo mutwa talk with David Ike for six hours
That's good for your brain. I didn't say good. Okay. I said it's a challenge to see if you could fit that much truth
Really your mind, but credo mutwa is
We covered a story of his when we did the sexual liaisons with the alien
He has a lot more where that came from. Oh my goodness
But if you're gonna be fun with it and I say let's be fun with it
Let's be fun with it. Yes, it's a possibility that different alien species may have dominion over different parts of the earth
And it might just be that Brazil and quite possibly the whole of South America when you take their fucking cryptid experiences a new account
Could be that that area was given over to some of the more aggressive B teamers of the alien
Experimentation community, man, you're just about to get chupa chupa buddy
I actually wonder if we'd even say this is B teamers
I wonder if this is more like a fucking version of the suicide squad
This is a well the suicide squad's kind of the B team, isn't it? No
Of course the suit the Justice League is the A team. Oh
you both
You men
I don't know. Well, I don't know. I mean this is just my interpretation from what I've read about the
Calaris
Sightings and the abductions and all that it seems like they kind of don't know what the fuck they're doing
It does sound like it's a bunch of like when I got knockout game or now that Rick Moranis got knocked out
Oh, that was very sad and the upper east side leave Rick
This leave him alone episode leave Rick Moranis alone
But that idea of maybe they're young dumb full of cum
And these chupa chupas are just trying to blow off steam. Okay, it's like a training exercise
Or the it's it almost sometimes it feels like they like bought a new tool like a new tractor beam
And they got and they traveled all the way from fucking Alpha Centaur and they got to earth and they didn't test the fucking tractor
Beam before they left and then when they got to earth they fucking discovered that it doesn't work very well
Oh, it's like the way we're dispersing all the protesters now with our new toys
That's what they learned from the US government. Maybe it's being like well if you're gonna pump all this money to R&D
We have to use it at some point. Absolutely
But even if it wasn't aliens whatever it was made the people of Calaris believe that something was after them
They were so frightened that many of the women and children left town and the men let bonfires at night and shot off
Fireworks in an attempt to keep the ships away. This really immobilized this part of Brazil
So it's because this was a hard-working. It was a working-class part of the country
These are fishermen. These are fishermen towns these like and farmers and farmers and they literally couldn't do their jobs
They were starving it got to the point where they couldn't figure they were running out of food
They were running out of money and they the whole city was just shut down
Because they were so terrified of this phenomenon that to me that rings of like
I know everyone's to say group elucidation mass hysteria, but again who benefits from this if you're literally running out of food
To eat or could it be the men were sick of the children and their wives
So they would be forced to evacuate
It must have been one fun we they must have had a fun first weekend
Yeah, the first weekend probably was pretty fun, but all that shit went away because they discovered the more noise
They made the closer the craft came
As if the craft was either curious or was daring the men of Calaris to take the conflict to the next level
You have to play the silent game even when you're even when your friend perhaps get a little roundy a little rendy
Since they're fucking women the wives
Very lonely and fishermen are very lonely this thing out with fish all the days, but you know Marcus knows ranchers
They don't have sex with the other men. They have sex with the animals. Yeah, well, yep
That's what they do. They don't masturbate either. They just have sex with the animals somehow. That's better. It's not better
But before we get too deep into the story, let's acknowledge our main source for this episode today
We've got UFO danger zone terror and death in Brazil by Bob Pratt
It's a great name for a book
Well Bob Pratt previous to this was a journalist at a daily newspaper in Virginia
But he quit because he wasn't allowed to publish the stack of UFO paranormal and Bigfoot stories
He had at the ready
Honestly that newspaper editor needs to be fired newspapers are in dire need of readers put what's in seats
Put what's in seats just publish the damn UFO stuff. Yeah, and since Brazil only had a few hundred active UFO
Investigators in a country of over 200 million Bob decided to travel down to South America
To see what he could see in Brazil and this is what Bob saw also
Bob had a trunk full of tassels and an ass that just wouldn't quit really and so he was built for Brazil
And he knew he was just wasting his time and energy in Virginia
So no one wanted to see him swivel and nobody cared about Carnival not a diss
But it's a flat-butt country Virginians gray people, but it is a flat-tush place
Oh, man, now we're gonna get a pile of big-butt letters. No, well, that's
This is this is not required reading for this subject
But I'm going to say as a student if you are consider yourself either remotely a student of UFO
You should be reading Jacques Valet's confrontations
Which is where this story first sort of was broke and Bob Pratt was
Inspired by Jacques Valet and kind of took the ball and ran with it
But Jacques Valet is my favorite writer as I've said for years now
Yes, you have but it's because of his attitude towards the subject and it's also because you guys can share shoes
Yeah, I do wish I could fit in his Frenchman feet. He's also a million. He's a millionaire
Is he really he's a futurist and he's deep into the world of technology and hedge fund shit now
It's very very interesting. He's recently getting back the UFOs now that I think Tom DeLong's paying him
He's kind of on the he's kind of on the TTSA train
So some people are now like there's like a needy clamp bank and junk valet kind of movement
But it's like read confrontations and then see if your clapping is warranted
You wound yourself up and got yourself mad buddy
Now we don't know exactly who the first victim of the 1970s Brazilian UFO flap was
But we do know that these types of UFOs began showing up in Brazil in
1971 when Jose de Souza a farmer and Pux Inana was chased by a vaporous ball of light
10 meters in diameter as he was walking home from work
I'm gonna say this also right now the three of us
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say we could not be farther from Portuguese
Yeah, and I want to say Marcus has some experience with Spanish. Yeah, I do but it's different than Portuguese
It's much a yes, but Spanish and Portuguese are two very different language completely different language
They're American. They're they're similar, but yeah, yes
I took six years of Spanish in high school. I mean not in high school from high school when I take it
Did you go to this high school for six years?
Yeah, it was a medical school for children
Really?
I was doing autopsies of the age of 16 years old. Wow. I think that's the plot of Doogie Howes room
So we are going to maybe
I'm gonna say maybe trample
On the Portuguese language unfortunately. Yeah, I barely had time to write this did not have time to learn Portuguese
That's fine. I think it's I think it's just great
It's like it Canadian versus American. It's kind of like Spanish
But it's Portuguese. So here we go English and German. I think English and German
It's two different languages in Canada. They speak English. Oh, so we actually speak the same language
They just say a boot and they're passive-aggressive. You can't yes, you can't apologize if you speak real English
But Jose de Souza at the time no one believed him
He ran all the way home to his mother that night and immediately told her what happened
But she dismissed the whole story saying that Jose had just seen a ghost because men who walk around at night
Always meet up with ghosts. I do love
His mother be like you're crazy. You just saw a ghost. Hey, if you tell me you saw you have a one more time
I'm gonna get you up. We know you're drinking again. Okay aliens that is far-fetched you my friend had a dinner with a
Phantasma
The next sighting we know of came five years later near the southern town of Jabba Tika Tupas
And what is known as the Valley of Old Women? Oh get me there
There's nothing better than Milf Canyon. Yes
There a 30 year old man named Cecilio was walking at night with some elderly neighbors when a UFO appeared come come to the sausage
restaurant elderly neighbors come
It's very excited for sausage at night very very excited CC. I think I say see
Perfect nailed it. They all started running run run to the sausages sausages will be dry
Guy caramba. What is that sky? Just flawless flawless Henry, but surprisingly
Cecilio's elderly companions left him behind when his sandal broke
Because he had it had broken on a patch of sharp stones. Oh
Oh, you only have to be faster than your buddy. Yes, indeed
Cecilio said that when the UFO caught up to him
It looked like an open umbrella and hovered above surrounded by the smell of sulfur. Hmm. Finally when it flew away
Cecilio began vomiting. This is like Marcus's I want to say day camp experience where you just got drive-by farted on
That was very mean spirited of the very mean kids very mean
I still
Got a laugh thinking about it, but it was more than day camp. It was just elementary school the entirety of it
Yeah, kids do the far. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a fun summer thing. It was your reality
For like a year for kid, but Cecilio was good
We're gonna see that the UFOs farting on people and making them throw up is actually very common trope in the Brazilian UFO flap
Mm-hmm. Okay, Cecilio eventually made it home and he stopped to vomit multiple times along the way
But he couldn't stop and once he got home the uncontrollable vomiting continued and he kept vomiting until he just fucking died
What yeah, he died from vomiting too much. That's a rock star's death though
That's kind of fun. That happens outside the Roxy. No, you have to have been a rock star
Well, you had the rock star death. I'm not saying he was a rock star dinner with his old friends elderly people in Valley of the Old Women
Rockstar in the same exact situation to Sammy Hagar. Yes, of course
About a month later again in the Valley of the Old Women
There was what seemed to be the first known attempted abduction on that night
Hermalindo de Silva was walking home in a UFO about 10 feet in diameter appeared right above him
I was trusty dog immediately abandoned him. What Hermalindo wasn't going without a fight
Georgie would run away immediately
That is not good at all then honestly the dog. I mean, well, you can't punish it too much, but that's not getting treats that night
Definitely
Well, Hermalindo wasn't going without a fight. He picked up a pole and thrust it toward the UFO, but the UFO gave him a zap
Oh, then four steel cables with hooks dropped down from the small craft with the obvious intent to drag
Hermalindo back into the UFO and then he looked up and he saw that it was fucking Pinhead
Centabyte mobile that is cool as hell. By the way, I am here for whatever this resurgence is of Clive Barker's work
They're making night breed again. Pinhead's coming back. Hellraiser's coming back. There's gonna be a TV series
I think I'm here for it legitimately. I think that he got the rights back though
Revered the right to revert it to Clive Barker and now he's just decided to make money on it again. Please God. Yep
I love that love hellraiser
But Hermalindo kept fighting and during his resistance a creature about four feet tall slid down one of the cables like
a tiny little action hero
Try and subdue Hermalindo by hand. You cannot kill me, dull man. You cannot kill me
I have strength of pole. I am the strongest man in the valley of the old women
He's like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible and probably the exact same size and he's just coming down there
But now you think about Tom Cruise's size and think about how brave he is. He's not that well
I do like that he does his own stunts. I know I actually do like that. He does his own stunts
Now Hermalindo wasn't taking any of this shit, but he couldn't get a grip on the creature because the creature was wearing this smooth metal soup
He's very slippery. Hi, I am the metal pill
I cannot get me. They call me space up man. Oh space up man. No kidding. Don't drop you
But being much larger than the alien Hermalindo bear hugged it and threw it to the ground
It's like when Hulk Hogan wrestled Andra the Giant into what some would call a super boring match
But others would call it super super boring
But throw in the creature to the ground ended up being a grave mistake
Because this enabled the creature to slip a hook around
Hermalindo's left ankle before it scurried back up the steel cable to the safety of the craft got the fish
Once the creature was back with its crew the cable began retracting pulling Hermalindo up into the sky toward a large
Black hole open at the bottom of the craft, but even as the craft was pulling him back up
It was also flying away, and it happened to fly in the direction of Hermalindo's home as he screamed for help
dangling from a UFO
Can you drop me off here, please? All this screaming woke up Hermalindo's brother-in-law
Who woke up just in time to see Hermalindo knock the cable loose from his ankle and fall 20 feet to the ground
Right into the blades of a big yucca plant. Oh that hurts. Oh
That's gotta hurt like a motherfucker. Yes, it does
And after that the UFO chalked up the encounter as a loss and flew away into the night sky and other than the cuts and
Scratches from falling into a yucca plant from 20 feet up
Hermalindo was shaken but unharmed. Okay, can I say that there is in my mind?
Joe we'll start with the jockelay threading in the way it attacked him
It's not unlike the way a fisherman gets a fish
That's what I was thinking if he was a fisherman by trade which quite a bit of these people were
My question is is that in some way shape or form? Is it like the stay puff marshmallow man?
Does something come from the very back of your subconscious and like it's a thought that you have because you wake up every day
And you think how many fish am I gonna get today?
I can't wait you feel guilty buckets and buckets and buckets of slippery fish now
I think it's just more of a default thought and then all of a sudden now he in fact
Himself is getting fished. That's why whenever the I get abducted by UFOs
It's a little delivery outside of my door, and it says McDonald's on it
Yes, and then I put my hand in it and it sucks me through and now I'm the Big Mac
God you'd be a big old Mac. Yes
Louis Fernanded Barroso was not as lucky as Hermalindo
And what seems like the first instance of light beam technology, which is obviously a step up from the hook method
Louis was unfortunate enough to have an encounter as he was walking home one night with his donkey
Isn't it fun to have the social distance dinner out Brutal?
Fun how we get to sit and have a nice time together. Yes. Yes lick your penis
I love to walk with you Brutal. Oh my god
About two hours before daylight Luis said a large object came out of the sky
Hovered above him and blasted both him and his donkey with a hot light that caused both of them to pass out cold
Oh, this is huge. Yeah. Yeah, when he awoke he was nauseous
He had uncontrollable vomiting and insane diarrhea. He had headaches and no doctor was able to figure out what was wrong
After three months his hair turned white and after six
He lost his mental faculties and spent the remaining 17 years of his life sitting in a chair doing nothing
But staring straight ahead
Honestly, that is the dream
That is the ultimate goal. That's what Puffin does. That's all my dog Puffin does. I think Puffin's blind. He's happy
Back to the hooks for a second
They did try it one more time before switching solely to the light lasso
Around the same time as Harmalindo's encounter an elderly man named Antonio Amador de Lima had a similar encounter
When a UFO descended and hooked him on the back of his shirt. It's like what they used to do to nerds. Yeah
When the hook pulled him up into the air toward the UFO
Antonio was able to get a look inside and he saw three people
Strange and ugly with short black hair and yellow arms said they didn't look Brazilian at all. Huh?
But Antonio said that once they saw him
They told him quote here is a good old man. We can take with us to our earth
After 15 minutes though the shirt could no longer support Antonio's weight and the hole made by the hook
ripped
Horrible
Antonio fell back to the ground so the UFO again just spun a few times and blew away
These UFOs do not have tenacity. No, you got it. You ever try try try again
I mean it can't be that difficult to get him back up also hook the flesh
I wonder because they are going all of these are going to escalate
Okay, we're going to see the the in their own serial killer fashion begin to try things out
It seems like playfully and eventually refine the way they quote-unquote attack
Okay, well, it's like I said earlier like it's playful in the way that like a six-year-old kid is playful and ripping apart a
Bug like he doesn't exactly know what he's doing. Not really
He doesn't see the bug as a sentient being just like these
Creatures or whatever's in there may not see humans as equal beings are not even close to being sentient
You've mentioned this a few times about six-year-olds tearing apart bugs now
I don't remember doing that when I was six
Were you a big bug tear apart or Marcus? It is a very common thing for children to do
You know, but you know you burnt burning the bugs on the sidewalk with the magnifying glass all that shit
What I did was I remember we used to have a big ant colony in a tree and every once in a while
There would be this big ant colony and I just would feel the power of I would get the hose
No, no, no, I was always like I like the poop on the inside
And also when I was potty training my parents said that whenever I had a poop in the diaper I go hide behind the lamp
I literally go hide behind a lamp and sit and just stare from behind the lamp
You did learn shame at a young age really did thank you Catholicism, but I would go like an angry god with my hose and just
Commit mass and genocide. We had a hornet's nest now. We're really talking bugs here, huh?
We had a hornet's nest right underneath our front step
And I did raid that a little bit and put some glue in there and stuff
So I get what you're saying there. You're telling me you never pissed on an anthill. Oh, of course. I did I did everything
On purpose I mean normally would but but I was more fascinated with ants when they would like it in our above-ground pool
Not to be tell you how good we had it in Queens. Wow, you're an above-ground
But the idea of like I like to watch them like kind of walk around on my and like pick up a little ant kind of see it
Walk around. I didn't always try to torture it. That's very nice, Henry. Yeah
Well back to Antonio like many people who had a UFO encounter in Brazil
He never again went outside after dark for the rest of his life
Geez honestly if a hook came out of the sky, yeah
Rain I'm like that's would that is always the stuff that kind of tickles the balls of my mind is
These concepts of someone who is so
Unbelievably traumatized by what happened to them. I watched a documentary on a ductees on Amazon that was like old school
It was I forgot what the hell was called
But it was with bud Hopkins the original like researcher of abductees and him talking to these people whose lives were
Shattered by their experiences and the ones that realized what happened
You kind of see this like the the stripes of trauma of being treated as if I mean again
We're used to a certain amount of respect on planet Earth as humans
Yeah, we are some things that aren't human. Yeah. Oh sure
We are used to being the top of the food chain. I don't know if you've ever heard of platypus disis
You should see what they're saying but as
The imagine you're walking along and you have a certain set of rules of reality does not include
Hooks coming from a UFO from the sky and attempting to bait me
Everybody's bingo sheet for the day. Yeah, as soon as you get once that happens to you. I don't think you're ever the same
I yeah, yeah a lot of it some people went out never went outside again for the rest of their lives
Some people it took them months other people like there was one guy who would go outside afterwards
But refused to smoke outside at night ever again because he believed that the cherry from a cigarette was what attracted the aliens in
The first place. I mean it is just a scrambling of rationale
I think that's what would attract the Chupa parks, which is the Chupacabra Marcus parks
But Antonio aged quickly after his encounter and spent the last five years of his life lying in a hammock inside
Hiding from the rest of the world. Hey, and maybe I am just getting too used to quarantine
As long as he's having fun, it's not like it's not it's down there like hammocks is just it's you would rather have a bed
People just sleep on hammocks. I yeah, yeah, it is a yeah, it is a not a luxury. It is a that's how they live
Yeah, I love okay, look it's I don't like the hammock. I don't like
We're anti hammock. I hate him's there is however one interesting contradiction in Antonio's story
While he later told people that the aliens had called him a quote good old man
His daughter remembers him telling her something entirely different
Oh when it first happened
She said that he told her that the aliens had deemed him to be too old and of no use to them
And that's why they left him although I'm not sure what the significance of this contradiction is
You don't think I can still make the milk. I'll make the milk right now
That's but we'll see that's what's interesting about this phenomena versus the US phenomena because this
Phenomena in Brazil has a little of the cum draining that you see in the US version of abductions in US
It's way more about what we were so we were talking about this one on our phone call about this
It's way more about whatever the quote-unquote hybrid program is yeah reproductive rights that were not reproductive rights
Just wow reproductive
Let's bring this up, and this is why we're here to talk. Let's just take it a strong right turn
Let's talk scotis reproduction. That's what a lot of the UFOs in America North America in general are concerned with I see
These Brazilian UFOs use seem to be straight up out
Literally for blood like they want our blood weird now
It's at this point in the story that things start to get a little more dangerous for the people of Brazil
But according to Jacques Valet, there was one UFO encounter in Brazil back in the 40s that resulted in a
Grizzly death. Hmm. I'm gonna read you a selection from Jacques Valet's
Confrontations. Okay. Well, this is a great presentation. You're in sixth grade. Do you think this is safe for the class?
Everyone must know what I know teacher
The year was 1946 and two men wow
Precious feel-ho in his friend Salvador dos Santos were returning from a fishing trip near the Brazilian village of
Acra quagwama
Perfect
Reached a village where they live they bade one another farewell and went their separate ways the time was 7 p.m.
An hour later Precious showed up at his sister's home with a strange story a beam of light had hit him as he was
Reaching his front door. It stunned and blinded him. He fell to the ground without losing consciousness
Hmm. He managed to get up and make his way to her house the same evening
Precious's condition deteriorated rapidly witnesses said that his flesh literally
Detached itself from his bones. It was if he had been boiled in hot water for a long time
So that his skin and the underlying tissue fell off
Precious was not in pain, but he was understandably in an increasing state of terror
Mm-hmm soon. He was unable to speak the villagers placed him in a cart
Intending to take him to the hospital, but he died enroute about six hours after being hit by the beam of light
He remained conscious until the end. Oh
When his body was bought back his flesh had fallen off to the point where the corpse looked decomposed
Wow put that in a barbecue cook off my god
Oh, it's off the bone sloth and off just sloth and off nasty. Okay now
Even though there were plenty of UFO sightings in the time leading up. It was in 1977 that the Brazilian UFO flap
truly began
Are you gonna why are you taking your shirt off again? It's just for Marcus and I it's all audio
That's the sound. That's the sound of my little making my little nice. Mm-hmm beautiful Henry. Thank you in July of 1977
a man named Alfredo Marquis Suarez was walking home at night from a neighbor's house when a burning sensation
Struck his left leg from behind. There's a burning in my rectum
Oh, yes indeed a rector dang near God hurry fine position at a pizza place
When Alfredo looked back he saw a beam of light yellowish white shining on his skin
Whatever it was it grabbed hold and began pulling Alfredo toward the sky
So Alfredo grabbed a wooden fence and held on as the force continued to pull
Finally it let go and Alfredo tried running under a cashew tree
But the leg that had been pulled by the beam was numb
So he just started running around in circles instead. He had no fucking choice
Hot and cold at the same time and he was shaking with sickness
This is such an example of a neighbor like watching out the window like watching a man be lifted by a beam of light
Holding on to a fence and then like running in a circle with like doing the Ellen dance. Like do you remember?
I love that. Yeah, he's just sitting there being like I guess sober October is over
Stopper spinny September
Eventually the light gave up grew dim and disappeared when Alfredo got home. His leg was black and burned
It blistered and became infected and for two more days Alfredo had diarrhea
And it took three months for his injured leg to be useful again
Damn the first day must have been fun though with the diarrhea
The first day is never as bad until you get dehydrated and then it's very dangerous
We've talked about this many times more times than we've talked about anything else that is
Useful on the show. Yes, indeed
And if the Brazilian UFO light beam attacks would have ended there
We probably would have never heard Alfredo's story
Hmm, but it kept happening again and again and again and three months later
40 other people in the area
Experienced similar attacks and actually and they went to the hospital to get treated for this
What did they say to any information on the hospital like where the nurses like we've seen this before well
There is a lot of evidence that shows that people went in for what is just essentially radiation burns
They said that they wouldn't they would not hurt necessarily on the outside
they would just be raw and
Essentially the skin looked like it was the way to describe like microwaved and sometimes they'd be covered with like little bumps hard bumps
That look like bug bites and they couldn't quite determine what the hell it was
Yeah, and people were coming in and like after the first there was one
Doctor that treated a lot of these people and said that as when the first few people were coming in
Uh, everyone they they were saying like okay, this is mass hysteria. Ha ha like who knows what the fuck this is
These people are all crazy or something right then once it got to be like 10
20 30 people
That's when they really started paying attention and asking what was really going on here and the doctor said that she herself
Saw UFOs on multiple occasions because it got to be such it got to be such a
Normal thing that a night wouldn't go by without seeing without someone seeing a UFO. Okay
But perhaps the most terrifying encounter came on Crab Island
Scary
Around the time of the UFO attack on Alfredo
Four men headed out to Crab Island off the coast of Brazil to cut down trees for construction materials
They traveled to the island by boat and were planning to leave around midnight when the tide came in and the men
Decided to stay until morning
All four fell asleep, but only three woke up to sheer horror
the first man
Oleriano had a burned butt and yet his clothes were completely intact
He got sat by a laser and went through the pant. Oh
Mm-hmm, and that isn't so bad considering everyone else's condition a companion named for many
Oh was burned so badly all over his body that again his skin was sloffing off in chunks
Yikes, but the third was by far the worst
Even though he had only superficial burns from what I can tell from the account Jose Sousa 22 and otherwise healthy was stone
Dead although no autopsy was performed his death certificate listed
Cerebral vascular accident caused by emotional shock as the cause of death in other words
Jose Sousa was scared to death
I mean, I don't mean it's a good this death, but you know
That's yeah, I get aliens fucking getting some on there and scorecard fucking aliens for human zero that time
You out and also you can die of a broken heart
I saw that on the internet where it's true the blood vessels and stuff like that. They can kill you
Are you just looking up this like the logic behind country music lyrics late in the night?
Well as far as the survivors of Crab Island went for Minio was in a coma for a week
And his left arm was so badly burned. He lost complete use of the appendage
While all a riano seemed to have gotten away with just a burned butt
My goodness gracious, but the other guy had nothing other guy had nothing nothing at all. Yeah, okay
He just wanted it too much. He wanted it too much indeed
As far as what the burns looked like a doctor said the injuries were consistent with a lightning strike
But that was an impossibility for it to be lightning
The bolt would have had to hit the sand bounce back up then travel sideways
Inside the boat hitting three men at the same time while also managing to set nothing on fire
And then that same lightning bolt will jump back in time to Dallas, November 1963
Do the left and furthermore there was one of them
Apollonario who wasn't a rose off the tongue
Apollonario, Apollonario, Apollonario, you just have to say it a few times Apollonario
Apollonario, Apollonario, yeah, but he wasn't burned at all and instead his problem was long term
His health failed and after a year the left side of his body just stopped working and he never recovered
What's insane though is that nine years later? It happened again in the same place same place
What can you say if your left side of your body just stops working? Can you just say it's retired?
Yeah, I think you can yeah, that's a warm and voluntary retirement. I need a vacation for my vacation. You had a stroke
Four men sailed to Crab Island for wood nine years after the first incident and again
Three were injured with burns while the fourth died with nary a mark on his body
Other than a bit of blood coming out of his mouth and that's just from flossing. Yes indeed
In other words, there was some weird shit going on down in Brazil and it wasn't only happening to the men in
1979 a woman named Rosalito was pulled up by the light
but was able to resist by grabbing onto a pole and
Screaming for her husband until the UFO gave up
And there was a lot of tales of women being zapped by beams on their breasts and I mean this you've been talking a lot about this
This is true is that they were discovering that these women were having like bite marks and burn marks on the tissue of their breasts
So they're in Brazil. Of course, they're going after the butts in the boobs. They want the meat
They want the perhaps is that I mean honestly, is that what they're going after?
Ask ask Marcus. I am asking Marcus. I'm definitely not asking you because you're just gonna get it horned up over there
Well, the guy with the burn, but as far as I know, that's the only but burn that we got and we're going for what Brazil's known for
We're definitely going for they've no more for butts
Mm-hmm. Yes, they are. Yeah, I've seen some of the literature
Well, actually the aliens or whatever they were
Sort of seemed like they just weren't very good at whatever it is
They were trying to do and the town of macambo a 14-year-old boy named Giulianetti
Saw a glowing object and felt himself being pulled up
But instead of running Giulianetti just stood there not grab it on to anything
Oh, and he never left the ground. He said the pulling was intermittent not steady as
If the aliens were just trying to figure out how to properly use the beam
They were just practicing on these people. Yeah, they were just giving little tugs. My goodness
Nothing I like better than a tiny little space took yes indeed
But eventually the UFOs did figure it out and in March of 1978
Luis Carlos Cera was taken up through the beam and was gone for three entire days and came back with hardly any memory of
What had happened?
All anyone knew was that he'd been found on a jungle path in terrible condition
Unable to speak or move and most bizarrely. He was completely bald were before he'd had long hair
The long hair was the lie
Oh, it was a wick like the main villain from almost heroes
Well, this is him like trying to figure out how to transition away from the wigs
Like maybe you start to get like a rash from the lace front
So he has to like figure out a way to like get out of this whole scenario
I'm just happy he disappears for a couple days says he was abducted shows back up
Like Ace Ventura when nature calls coming out of the right now
You just have to do it one day like John Travolta like he just did it. He just looks great bald
We all knew John. We all knew but this kid's hair hadn't been shaved off by a doctor's estimation
It had been burned to the root
Because the tops of his ears were slightly singed as well. Oh, but the cruelest thing done to Luis involved his teeth
Four of his teeth had been pulled out while others had been broken and they hadn't done a very good job either
While one tooth was pulled out completely the other three missing teeth had left behind the roots
I can't do teeth stuff still don't like it no matter how many times I've seen horror films where they pull out the teeth
I still just knock I can do high stuff. I used to not be able to do any high stuff or nail stuff teeth
I'm fine with high stuff. I like high stuff. When Luis finally recovered
He said he'd been picking guava fruit in the jungle when he heard something that sounded like a car horn
Followed by a bright light above the palms
Apparently the UFO inhabitants had finally figured out how to use the tractor beam
They laid Luis flat on his back before pulling him up to the craft
Luis said it was a classic flying saucer complete with a dome on top and once he was inside the dome
He said he saw three creatures about three feet tall who spoke very loudly and very deeply in a language
He didn't recognize please sit down. Do you want pretzels?
This is my friend Frank you you seem to have problem understanding me. Do you need a seltzer?
Do you want to sit and play co-op games with me and my friend? We have smash brothers. Have you heard of it? Wow?
Luis said the last thing he remembered was the little people putting a tube up his nose and a
Transparent ball in his mouth and the next thing he knew he was bald and partially toothless on the jungle path three days later
Oh my god, it sounds like he was partying with Motley crew indeed. They made him a little Christmas tree. That's not good
I want to talk about the dream state of being involved in an alien abduction in this scenario
I think there's a reason why there's a halfway mark with all of this shit people
Experience these things people who've been abducted people who have dealt firsthand with entities quote-unquote a lot of times
They talk about this kind of half world of logic where things kind of make sense
But also don't like it come like how many times you're on mushrooms trying to put trying to figure out your television
Remember that when I unplugged the TV a whole bunch, then we couldn't figure out how to plug it back in
Yeah, cuz we were just looking at a bunch of cords like they were spaghetti and then everyone's be like where's the music
That literally happened and then that's when I showed up and fixed everything and you know I showed my worth
Isn't that funny that nobody remembers that part Marcus? Yeah, no one remembers that part that I showed up and fix and fix everything and
Yeah, thank you. Thank you
Thank you
There's something about like the tugs this kind of halfway working the pulling the teeth out there
There's a I don't know how to really describe it. It's a dream logic that doesn't make full and complete total sense
So in some way shape or form if they are like just aliens from another planet coming to experiment on us
Why is it not more like photo realistic? Why is it so dreamlike?
Why are there because it sounds like all the things that happens in a nightmare?
You know when you like can't run away of course the thing that's chasing you and you can't fight the person
it's like you automatically enter into this sort of liminal space where you and
This you're like in a shared reality with a thing that's maybe having a hard time staying in our dimension
Like I wonder if that's a part of it like they're them crossing over to here if that is indeed what they're doing is not complete
So you're only experiencing 50 to 70 percent of the event. I think it's more
It could be that but it could be that combined
With the phenomenon of the human brain just not being able to understand things sometimes like sometimes when you see it like you
Sometimes the human brain cannot comprehend
What is being fed into the eyeballs and the brain sort of fills in the gaps?
And that could be what this is the bits the brain not understand is just what these UFOs are
Dealing with what they are on the inside. It's just too foreign for us to but we have no frame of reference for it
It's crazy. These these experiences are so much more brutal almost
I'm gonna say almost because of the this straight-up rape that happens in US
Subductions is like a different type of brutality. It seems more cold and I'm casting you're talking about Hollywood cast
There's certain things you have to do and you have to be able to keep a secret if you want to make it in this town
But these events in Brazil are like the getting the teeth half removed
I've never heard of in any other scenario. Yeah, sounds like they didn't do it, right?
Yeah, they don't do anything right. Okay, mr.
Mr. Parks, I just find it interesting of like what is it about doing something incorrect that we're supposed to learn from?
Mm-hmm. Do not do it that way. Yes
Now by this point the people in this area of Brazil were getting mighty tired of the suck suck
Especially when new sighting zones around the country reach saturation levels so high that nary a night passed without a UFO sighting
And this wasn't just one small town like this was a large
Swath of Brazil like imagine if there were UFO sightings from Cleveland to New York City for a month straight
Wow, that it's that area. It's that thick, okay?
Yeah, and so the Brazilian Air Force finally got involved and project Prato began headed up by a man named
Captain orangue Boliva Suarez New Guara de Holanda Lima
aka
Captain Holanda. That's the guy who likes tan hats. Well, that's a long badge
It's a long badge now and Captain Holanda showed up. He found that people were actually taking shots at the UFOs with rifles and pistols
Which caused damn near every Air Force official to yell Jesus Christ stop fucking doing that you West say you West say you West say
I'm actually happy to hear that that makes me feel that makes me feel less dumb for our country
No, he said just doing it because it seemed to make it continue every single time they shot at them
They would actually come and be more aggressive. Well, the the reason why Captain Holanda even got involved was because the mayor of
Coladas, which we're about to go to which is an island community
They the mayor of Colaris
Finally had seen so many UFOs
That he was so freaked out that he got there like basically there was like a posse of people together
And they watched a group of UFOs and this is this is according to the mayor of Coladas
And it's an official record of operation plate Prato is that they looked up at the sky
They saw these UFOs show what like fly over and then the entire town's electricity went out
Whoo, and so they sat there and then finally finally the mayor was like we are calling the Air Force
Okay now unlike the experiences that civilians have had with the United States Air Force when it comes to UFO sightings in our
Territory the Brazilian Air Force while they were pretty hands-on
They seem to be there at least a little bit to help out its citizens and to try to figure out what the fuck was going on
They actually showed up with a team of psychologists to help like deal with the panic that had overtaken the entire fucking region
They didn't even do that after Hurricane Katrina and that was definitely real
But they went they set up an entire base
They set up a a way to watch the skies they started they put up video cameras and
Motion-sensitive cameras to look up at that like at any single moment. Hmm. This is one of them in 1978 technology though
but for any time this is one of the most comprehensive like
Research attacks that a government has done on a UFO flap. They showed up. Okay. Yeah, they brought cars cameras radio transmitters
They even fucking brought helicopters and at one point tried chasing the UFO with the helicopter
But they turned around when the UFOs started chasing them
The prey
This of all of the alien stories we've ever covered really shows like it's scary. This is fucking crazy
Yeah, Laura's blew up
Okay, but even so the presence of the Air Force did nothing to stop the attacks
One woman named Claudio Miro Rodriguez
Said that she was sleeping in her hammock outside when she was awoken by a beam of green light
She looked up and saw a UFO and inside was a man wearing something like a diving suit
Carrying something like a pistol and it was from this pistol that the green light was emitting and I was playing with my cat
I'm playing with you
Really? Wow
Claudio Maria said that when the beam struck her chest
It took a little blood and left three scars in a triangle and she said it felt like being struck with a hot needle
Afterward she was terrified and thirsty and when she became paralyzed because the para the paralysis came on slowly
She started screaming and she was taken to a hospital where she was treated for an abnormally high fever for weeks
But what's even more interesting is that when Captain Holanda was interviewing her about the experience a goddamn UFO
Zipped right past and he wasn't the only one to see it that night. It seems like these UFOs are taunting them. Yeah
Absolutely, they are conscious of whatever they know that humans are paying attention and Captain Holanda is a very
Interesting personality too because even after all this shit, he said that he probably saw
20 UFOs himself during this time period
But he still does not fully believe because he's like I still am looking for another
Explanation because I refuse to believe if they're coming here to kill us that they haven't just outright killed us all together
Well, perhaps they're they're peaceful like Stephen Greer says I don't want to bring up Stephen Greer
He's a disinformation agent. That's what you say too fucking much and he charges $2,500 a pop
That's what you're mad about. I mean that's a part of it, but that's why you're upset. No, she's Stephen Greer
He likes these aliens a little bit too much. Yeah, well
I think you got to be careful when you make a deal with the hildafook
Encounters of the fifth kind if you want some info on Stephen Greer horrible shoes
That's why you can't trust a new balance
Overall Holanda interviewed between two and three hundred people over a six month period and by the end of it
He and his team were able to document eight distinct styles of UFO
You had the disc with windows the rectangle with a barrel on the side
That's the chupa-chupa. That's like the classic chupa-chupa. Oh, that's the suck. Okay. Yeah
The pyramid with the top cut off the cigar the arrowhead the dome the black and the white and the ball with three sticks
The ball with three sticks is also very interesting. That's the polish one
I'll kill you I'll fucking kill you
Yes, indeed
But the ball with three sticks actually was recently seen over sundiago
The same type of structure where you see that orb with the three little landing gear. It's cute as hell seems like to me
That's like the vw bug of these
Small in the outside big on the inside much like how marcus is a thin on the outside fat on the inside
Yeah, I actually eat very healthily the vw. No, we talked about this on side stories
Your your love of the sweets. Although you just have a bite. Yeah, the little bites of candy
Yeah, I just take a little bites. I consume so much less sugar than the two of you beer drinkers do
But what's seemingly distinct to brazil is what came after a sighting
Several reports said that sometimes after a craft or a ball of light appeared
A window in the sky could be seen that seemed to be looking out onto a different place
Entirely cool like phantasm. Yeah, take me dude. I want to see the window in the sky
I want to take fucking 75 milligrams of edible sure get myself one last filly cheese steak
And then just give me a little bit of a ladder into the hole so I can look up in there
Oh, I just I'm curious and to them you'd be really big. Isn't that interesting so you get to suffer
You get to live in that reality where everything is too tiny because it's built by little people
Yeah, but at the same time I'll be a sexual curiosity
I'll be kareem abduldjabbar
I'm gonna be out there fucking playing hoops. I'll fucking join the alien basketball association
Destroy it up there doing crossovers being like the fucking the new larry bird the new larry bird
Henry Zabrowski what we know from space jam aliens are actually quite good at basketball
Now since there was so much attention given to these sightings
It was natural that the press would become involved
It was actually a couple of journalists who experienced one of the most aggressive if somewhat petulant encounters with the ufo's
But before that happened these two men had a different kind of encounter that was also
Experienced by multiple people in the area. You know what was weird about this specific encounter was that the reporters
Everybody was having ufo like moments. So these guys really wanted they wanted to scoop they wanted to see
And so what they did was there was a rumor that if you use the colors red black and yellow
That it would attract the ufo's that there's something about they said that it was often seen on the dome shape crafts
Or the normal like the disco viades the like the actual like flying saucer shapes
Would have stripes of red black and yellow on them
And so what they did was paint the top of their car
Red black and yellow. This is true and before going out scoping for ufo's
Interesting and told what happened happened. Well with uh with any luck people will confuse them for texas tech fans
Who are red black and white? That's right yellow. Yes indeed. Get your guns up
Get your guns up. My guns aren't as high as they used to be really a weekend. Love it. Yeah. No, you are very upset with those people
Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially since
You know, they're real um
They're real uh easy going right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, and it's also like really mad though at the same time
Which is super mad about like everything and like really aggressive and like want to tell you about it
Whether you want to hear about it or not
Well, the journalists said they were sleeping in their car when they were woken up by a powerful beam of light
But the light wasn't shining through the windows
Instead it was actually shining through the roof of the car passing through the solid metal completely
As if the paneling was made of glass
And this happened again and again to people like in their homes in their cars
Uh, they said it was a very unsettling thing to witness. Cool
But there was one story Jacques Valle was talking about about a woman talking
He was kind of talking about the abduction experience in general
And this happens a lot, you know, how often you travel through they say abductees are taken from one spot
And they see themselves traveling through their house or through a ship where a woman was before the
Incident happened
She was lying in bed and she realized she could see the moon
From her bed and looked up and her ceiling was gone
And then all of a sudden the ship rolled over and then she was slowly tractor beamed up. Wow
The petulant part with the journalists however came a few days later
Those same dudes actually spotted one of the craft and they tried taking a picture
But when the flash bulb went off the light coming from the ufo became bright and solid
And it shattered the car's windshield. Whoa, Sean Penn
Cool
He hates paparazzi. Yes, he does. Well, they hunt him down
And still the attacks continued for years after each one was followed by numbness paralysis dizziness headaches diarrhea vomiting
And chest pains for days if not months afterward and some victims lost the will to live completely
Really? And what is that run alongside of radiation poisoning?
Interesting
And it wasn't just the poor farmers and fishermen either one of the largest land odors in the region
Genuncio de suza was almost pulled into a silo-shaped craft by what appeared to be a man and a woman
Genuncio said that when the light started pulling him up
He wrapped his arms around a tree which caused the beam to pull him up and down up and down up and down
times until his chest was scraped raw and the alien was yelling all aboard the kuk train
All aboard the kuk train, but who would be the kuk?
Finally the ufo tried a new tactic and covered genuncio in something like hot oil to get him to let go
It fucking shot you foe bullshit all over him
He was like gripping onto a tree your ankles getting tilted for the love of god. I ain't even paying for this. I'm a landowner
He persisted and the aliens gave up after only two minutes
And like many people before and after
Genuncio was afraid to go outside for the rest of his life and never fully regained either his strength or his health
Wow
Do you think that at some point again?
Maybe with some excuse for just being covered in oil to begin with
Yeah, you explain it same damn thing happened to a sunbedo a couple of months later right down to the hot oil
Now how hot was the oil? Was it super hot? Did it burn the skin? Not super hot. It was uh, warm oil
Really hot massage oil kind of yeah warm warm enough where it's like what the fuck this is warm
This is very very warm. Oh, you want a rub? Yeah, because then it gets all viscous and you're sitting there and you and your father is
Just was wet as a couple of eels. Look at that. Yep can't hug your father then
No, yeah, just flopping around like a couple of salmon's both
You've got your ankles tugged and both you don't know what happened. It sounds like a regular things given over at the kiss
Lucky lady. I'll tell you that
Now scary as all these encounters are nobody actually saw a ufo
Deliberately kill a person outside. I you know that 1946 story
When joc valet tried finding a witness
But the closest he came to a ufo murder in the 70s was a guy who had a heart attack fell out of a tree
And died during an encounter. That's the tree's fault. I think it's the heart's fault really
It's I mean that's manslaughter. I would say yeah negligent. Yeah negligent homicide
Well, he climbed the tree. Did the aliens put him up?
The aliens were pulling him up and he grabbed onto the tree. He had a heart attack fell out and died
I couldn't take it couldn't take the heat. Well, there is a lot of talk about especially on joc valet side about are they purposefully attacking
We I don't know it sounds sometimes
The way he describes it is that they necessarily weren't purposefully attacking. It sounds like they either
Surprised the ufo which is a very interesting concept that they stumbled upon the ufo
and it was some sort of self-defense mechanism or
Oftentimes the ufo is seen scanning the ground with the same exact beam that they are getting zapped with
So they also wonder whether or not
What if there's a stun beam that you'd normally use for an abduction something like that?
And instead if they're too physically close
It kills them or they're doing a beam on something else
And they're trying to maybe god knows what it does it makes frogs gay
And then it turns over and it bounces off of you and then you get cancer from it
I mean what joc valet said is that if they are trying to kill us
They are doing a terribly bad job at it a nut with a sniper rifle would have a higher kill count
Than one of the what is assumed to be a highly advanced race of beings
Well, I don't know if there's anyone more advanced than a psycho with a sniper rifle because they are scary and they can kill
I'm scared. I don't have a sniper rifle. I want to get a big. I want to get a big gun
I want a six juda see you say this about a gun. I prefer just one nuclear bomb. Yeah, just one
If I had one I'd fix a lot of problems in this country. Don't think you would I would destroy a lot of stuff
No, you understand. It's called leverage
That's battlefield earth
Uh
Oh, you know plenty of people they did die after the ufo encounter
It just happened days weeks or months afterwards
But it was a result of the ufo experience and there are some who believe that an entire group of hunters
Who were found dead in the par narama region of brazil were killed after a ufo encounter in the jungle
I think it was like 1981 right?
Yes predator. It is like fucking predator than it's though. Oh shit
Oh, even with the triangle even with the triangle dots
We can kill it. Yeah, that's so cool. I mean, I'm so happy that all of us are in the army and all of us are so cool
Yeah, my buddies you and me. Yeah
Marcus we're in the army now. Oh, yeah, we're in the army. Yeah. I mean, it's so cool being in the army. That's what's cool about it
Put me in there. Yeah, I'm in demolitions
And catering
Even though the brazilian government took all of this very seriously and they even supposedly have pictures and videos stored away
They still denied that all of these encounters were caused by ufos at least at the time
But in 1986
Many years before disclosure here in the united states
The brazilian government openly acknowledged the existence of ufos by holding a press conference to announce
They've been tracking 21 ufos on radar in the previous days and several of their jets had chased the ufos to no avail
It is brazil is a interesting ufo country because in 2005 they had a big old disclosure event as well
They popped open the records of operation plate
And they discovered all of the actual hard evidence that they had found and while they had very little video
They had some kind of pictures that were a little bit on the edge because people didn't quite understand if you could identify or not
But what they did have was sheets and sheets and sheets of officers saying luminous light
Saw a pyramid move from here to here like all of this witness testimony when we spoke with john tenney
He was talking about the pyramids and the triangles that I believe that was all over detroit
It seems like that's a really common form for these ufos to take
Look at the black vault. The black vault has all of the operation a proto documents. Isn't that what Geraldo Rivera opened?
Now the attacks died down as the 70s turned to the 80s
But in 1990 the ufos returned and began attacking people in the exact same ways that they'd done a decade before
Using the same pulling light and causing the same adverse effects
But the weird thing was that they still
weren't very good at it if
abducting people was indeed their goal
Moises campillo a farmer in his mid 30s was faced one night with a bright flash of light
Which was followed by an unsettling craft as large as a house that was noiselessly and slowly spinning
Is it possible they were just fishing for nutrients the way that someone will throw a large
Net into the ocean, but the next thing you know, there's a dolphin in there
I you say I don't want a dolphin dammit. I like the dolphins and then of course the dolphin has to escape
That is a theory again if they are nuts and bolts actual extraterrestrials
Maybe they are here on some form of research done sucked up and the people are just in the wrong spot at the wrong time
Well, everything around moises lit up even brighter after that and everything got very hot
He started to rise into the air so rigidly paralyzed that the cookies he was carrying under his arm were crushed
This could I mean this could also just be like the story. He made up after he ate all the cookies
You're abducted and you still ate all the cookies
Yeah, it's not like I wasn't any less hungry because the fear really sparks it so
It's weird though because you were getting probed and they just they let you have them, huh?
I know I shouldn't have been messing with my new cookie crap
These cookie trees are real since the other numbers are running out of the cool milk it takes to grow
Brazil is an awesome place
But just as suddenly moises was let down to the ground gently and both the light and the ufo settled on top of a nearby tree
Then it started doing it again using the light to pick him up and set him down pick him up and set him down over and over again
The last time the light just dropped him and he fell so hard his left eye swelled and bulged out of his head
And it took him a year before he could see out of it again like vader when he got his eye poked out
Yeah, and like most of the others he no longer goes outside at night. I mean
It's they have to face the fear at some point you got to go outside at night. It's weird. It's very very scary
Yes
Other encounters, however, were not so dramatic a man named Antonio de Silva nicknamed balinga. That's just how you know
He's joking
Oh, he said he was walking home with his brother and his donkey late one night when they heard a loud pinging sound
Both men quickly hid underneath the donkey with balinga wrapping himself around the front legs while his brother wow
Wrapped around the back
I mean, come on. It's you or the donkey
I know, but I've heard that's the safest place you can be during an earthquake is under
their donkey
They stayed under the donkey for several minutes and while the light did strike balinga on the back
It didn't pull just getting covered in donkey piss and donkey shit. Yep. Well, okay
Well, by the time the ufo left balinga found that his shirt was covered in a thick oily yellowish grease that smelled terrible
That's not he was it was done. He was convinced that it came from the ufo
But his wife quickly surmised that it was an indeed donkey piss. This is the only one that doesn't check out
This is the one but also think about how scared the donkey was
I mean, I just feel like it's that scene from kingpin where it's like milk the donkey
But like we don't have a donkey
Wait, is there milk in donkeys and what i'm saying is he got pissed on he was jerking off the donkey
Even his brother were having sex with the donkey and this is another story to cover up. Yes
And there are other goofy stories sides of this one
I mean back in 1965 two salesmen claimed they came upon a ufo while they were driving through brazil
And then the ufo landed and then two robots came out. But then the men shot the robots
Honestly, only the only way to get rid of a ufo and kind of where she's be like, hey, you want to buy a vacuum?
And then the ufo was like i'm going i'm on you want to what about shower curtains?
Have you heard about our lord and master jesus christ?
So anyway, it's so great that you abducted me because i'm here to tell you about herbal life
And if I can get 18 of your species on board you're gonna make money
Well the robots in the men's words after they shot them with rifles
Silently exploded cool blinded the men for 15 minutes and when they recovered both the ufo and the robots were gone
Those are just the enemies from teenage mutant ninja turtles the arcade game
But this is a very common occurrence in ufo sightings and and all of it's something about the way our brains
Interpreted and what it's supposed to mean. Jacques Valle calls all of this a massive control system
He believes that there is some form of us working with this dimensional intelligence
Whether it's intrinsically a part of the reality that we are in like maybe it's it's just a it's an earth thing
Baby that we're like a part of or is it this this other thing that that knows us and it's trying to teach us something
But it's also it plays upon our pop culture references
We see these robots pop out of the ship you see this quite often they
They every generation it changes it goes into
You know medieval times saw the chariots in the sky the all of you know read passport to mcgoni again
You fucking pieces of shit before you start telling me you're making yourself bad
No one else is arguing with you. He's getting on this show. No one's literally made yourself mad. That is the old polish argument
That's classic
Yeah, you did that
Well, what's interesting outside of the goofy realm is the allegation that in 1996
The brazilian military captured two living aliens in what is known as the varghina ufo incident
Whoa
The story is that i'm one rainy night two young women in the town of varghina
Found aliens squatting in a vacant lot obviously lost and scared
They were humanoid appeared to be three feet tall at their bouts and were hairless with big triangular heads red eyes
long arms and short legs
Yeah
It's like he had a little pot belly
He's like oh my god. He's like that was it macking me? Yeah, yeah, he's all fat
But the weird thing was that they both had huge veins in their necks shoulders arms chest and back
It's like the kind of veins you might see in a weightlifter
Yeah, it's still vassal salon with his like hgh rattled 80 year old. He's looking better than ever
He has got so many veins you could play him like a guitar
But apparently didn't he take the robot out of the new uh rocky or something?
They got the rope they got rid of the robot. I think yeah, he is retconning the past
Like a fascist. I agree. It's crazy. You can't change history
But from what sources say the brazilian government handed these aliens over to our government where if this was all real
We probably killed and dissected them
Yeah, I mean we definitely didn't like make them baseball players
I don't know. I guess so. What else do you I mean, honestly, you got to look and see how their penises work
We always you got to keep but you got to keep one alive if you have two
I mean that would be amazing. It depends on whether or not he's funny. Yeah
However, there is speculation that the quote-unquote alien that the girl saw was actually a local mentally unstable homeless man
Uh nicknamed moudinho
So named because he was usually covered in mud for one reason or another
He could have been coming from the spa
I don't know. Some people spend hundreds of dollars to be covered with fancy mud
You never know why people are covered in mud
But in the beginning of the cholera slot just to step back
It was interesting to see the one of the original theories
Was that when people were seeing these ships with spotlights taking our blood
One of the first instincts was that they thought it was us technology coming to terrorize them
Well, that is just a testament to how we have spread fear across the globe
It's like our major export
In the late 70s the america did not have america did not have the best reputation in south america
As opposed to the 80s. It got even better in the 80s. Yeah, we love us. Of course. They just fucking love us now
Yeah, of course. That's great
And ufo sightings are still happening even today in brazil
Just a few months ago in may thousands of people in the municipality of maje just north of rio de gianero
Saw and filmed multiple glowing lights in the sky something magical about brazil is i would love to go see
Any one of these ufo hotspots, but we cover this on side stories
And it's another one of those where a it sound like a very physical thing
Crashed into the ground and there seemed to be a pretty extensive
Research into like they went and they then there was a big ol investigation
And the brazilian government those being more hesitant this time to say what it was
Which actually in my mind points more towards is there some sort of like technology that crashed
Like is there a blackhawk down thing going on in the middle of brazil right now?
Yeah, and with all the you know camera phone footage that we see it's like every single ufo sighting caught on a camera phone
It's difficult to say exactly what the lights are
But no matter what the maje sightings were we still have no idea
What happened way back when and the mystery of what went down in brazil in the 70s and 90s will most likely remain a mystery
forever
The dangerous ufo's of brazil
No, that was cool
Usually we have much more peaceful interactions or different interactions with the ufo
But these are very intriguing indeed. I wonder why they got so aggressive down there
You honestly feel like I mean maybe they got some of that nazi runoff energy
Well, isn't that fun the way you continue to make those jokes?
I didn't say anything to you. No, no, no, not at all
No, you absolutely did not no that was a south that that was a nazi
Uh, nazi's escaping the south america joke which intriguing
All right, everyone. Thank you all so much. It's fair. It's fair. It's right in brazil
I know
The boys from brazil. It's not as spicy as you might think
Um, okay. Well, very good. Steve gunberg was very good in the film. It is so hard to jerk off to that movie though
It really is
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