Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 426: The Dangerous UFOs of Brazil

Episode Date: October 3, 2020

This week, we detail the bizarre string of aggressive UFO confrontations that have been documented in Brazil, as well as the Brazilian government's strong response to these nasty alien encounters.Kevi...n MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to this is the last You know what I'm better about with these Brazilian sucka suckas sucky suckies suck sucks these suck sucks Mm-hmm trying to make me afraid of refrigerators What is this some kind of skinny? conspiracy Trying to make me afraid of flying refrigerators. I mean that's horrible right of what's happening to my body I never want to be scared of my refrigerator. That's really bad I'd much rather be scared of my washer and dryer so I don't have to use it that would be kind of fun
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah, if you thought a little goblin lived in there, and that's why you're slow your clothes slowly become covered with longer and longer shit streaks Oh, no That's the real horror isn't it is that how we're starting I guess so welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone I am Ben with Marcus and with Henry as well So today's episode this is going to be fun. We promised you something spooky We promised you something scary because we are in October Yeah, very excited and today we are covering dangerous UFOs not of America, but rather of Brazil Brazil
Starting point is 00:01:30 Brazil So you're just delighted by the fordness of it Brazil This is gonna be a lot of fun Brazil's got so we're gonna find out has got some of the most condensed intense UFO activity in the entire world and it was brought to us on a platter by Beautiful French ufologist. I want to say probably the most classically handsome ufologist. Yes, Jacques Valle. Indeed great name, too Yes, he's very I mean he will lick your pussy. I know that Now the alien encounters covered in this week's episode are gonna be a little different from the ones we've talked about in the past
Starting point is 00:02:08 See usually we refer to people who have had experiences with aliens as Abductees or something similar. I think the preferred term now is Experiencer really? Yes. Isn't that strange? But in this episode, we're gonna be referring to the people Unfortunate enough to be involved in this particular flap as victims We've ever cheered at the word victims Wow, I don't like that these UFOs are being very mean Spirited in Brazil It's like I feel like this is just grown a chef's hat Because he keeps making the Mamma Mia
Starting point is 00:02:51 Italian fingers every single time he says Brazil yes Now as far as what the malevolent creatures involved here were called they had many names They were called the light the fire the animal the worm the apparatus the machine The thing the train or in their literal interpretation disco voyador oh Very cool. That's a flying plate. Although the apparatus is a little bit like do I have to be nicknamed the apparatus? It sounds like something that's used to make a woman orgasm after she was deemed crazy in the 1910s
Starting point is 00:03:28 Well, it also sounds like the name of a guy that's a dentist during the day But at night he wears like a dildo inside of himself the apparatus and he tries to like fuck through his dick with the dildo behind it Like giving him back up all night. Oh my god You just see the detective put his thumb into a pile of cum lick it with his tongue and say the apparatus The apparatus was indeed here. I'd actually be preferred to be called on my day name Warren But in the region of Brazil where all this we're gonna talk about today happened They're best known as the chupa-chupa which translates literally as the suck suck
Starting point is 00:04:08 And you know when you go down to Brazil There's one thing you're looking for and you're actually wondering if you'll find right is some of the suck suck Absolutely, but you don't think that you'd get the I'm gonna say the results of the suck suck in a dangerous way No, I mean with any luck. You'll just get a lollipop. Aren't they called chupas chup. That's chup chups Okay, different. Well, that's what they call lollipops in in Brazil. The lollipop the the this is Spanish lollipop, right? Yeah, it's a sucker. It's like a titty roll Or is that just is that what your German grandfather called his quote-unquote clients when he was living on it? Wow, isn't that interesting? But there is a reason for the name suck suck
Starting point is 00:04:51 It was said by these people who lived in a fairly rural area of Brazil that each person who had an encounter with these aliens Had holes on their body where it was assumed blood was sucked out They it's not even just assumed there is some quite a bit of people there They're they believe in some of these a quote-unquote attacks will say attacks We don't know the actual agenda of these objects or in fact, they were even piloted at all They want to want to stick to Jacques Vellet. They may want to suck they came here looking for I know just looking for a suck But what they ended up getting was blood, but they can drain up to what they said three milliliters of blood Damn, I mean, it's barely registable, but that is blood though
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well happening in two waves in the late 70s and to a lesser extent the early 90s Encounters during the Brazilian UFO flap usually resulted in mild to extreme physical and mental distress in the humans They attempted to abduct if that's what in fact they were doing if that's very true Okay, this is sad because Brazil is so beautiful people are hanging out on the beach everyone is gorgeous Just don't interrupt them. This is why you just like go to Pittsburgh and people will be thrilled to be like get me out of here Let them be in Brazil. What you they did them at and they did these attacks at night quote-unquote attacks again We I'm not gonna assume they were attacking yet But they all of this happened at night and it happened and I want to say in some of the less beautiful parts of Brazil
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, maybe the coast I imagine are beautiful Yes, but these were fishing villages where they don't often like if they have G strings a lot of times If they if they had a pile of G strings sure use it to catch a bunch of carp. Oh Well, mostly the extreme physical and mental distress was due to the method of abduction Each of the experiences we're gonna cover in today's episode Sounds like a cluster of walking nightmares with no two experiences being exactly the same although there is a running theme Usually the UFOs appeared at night with a sudden burst of what the Brazilians refer to as Sudden daylight. Whoa, they described it as the clean white light of an iridescent bulb
Starting point is 00:07:04 Quite often they said it felt like they went to a doctor's office Like it's that type of like when you go to with a dentist or something like that where it was an immediate and intense very Clear LED level spotlight, right and much like when you go to the dentist you end up molested We all remember that Seinfeld episode which they just kind of laughed about but he was getting jerked off by his dentist Jerry Seinfeld was this is before that was in a time when men couldn't be victims eyes Now naturally people would run but that's when the UFO would shine a kind of tractor-beam Lasso made of light that would slowly but surely pull the victim back But since this is Brazil there were usually plenty of trees for people to hold on to as they were being pulled toward the craft
Starting point is 00:07:51 And if they held on to that tree or fence or whatever long enough the UFO would simply leave with few exceptions Damn Even through all the attacks and fear and everything else as far as we know The aliens very rarely actually succeeded in abducting a person in this manner Which is why Jacques Valet points to what was the agenda of either the occupants of these objects or the phenomenon just exact as it existed so because you think if they could abduct you very easily and if they Wanted to abduct you very easily wouldn't they just do it but now we're going to see is that maybe there's something else to it Maybe it was an accidental or maybe it was a catch-and-release
Starting point is 00:08:35 Maybe maybe these aliens are too lazy you put up a fight and they don't want to deal with it and there you go You're out of there. Mm-hmm. And while one might think this was mass hysteria sleep paralysis or just simple bad dreams These encounters all occurred outside Usually while the victims were traveling on foot and in a few cases it happened to multiple people at once These are sightings with many witnesses These are events that we're because they are working close-knit family groups. They're working in They're literally working in groups. They're seeing all these things together on mass For months for months. They're seeing this shit to the point where everybody's just staying inside. Wow. I'm just gonna say I
Starting point is 00:09:19 Karumba Karumba on that. No, you have to do it very seriously if you're if you really want to have true gravitas you have to go I Karumba That sounds good Deal is made Furthermore in just one cluster of attempted abductions in the late 70s 35 people were hospitalized with dizziness headaches total fatigue insane diarrhea and vomiting and in many cases burns that resembled radioactivity or
Starting point is 00:09:50 Microwave exposure in the areas where the lasso light touched the skin That must be a rough day for your nurse when they're like, so what are the patients suffering from today? insane diarrhea it is somehow it's coming out of their hips what in the world These nurses were also told explicitly because the you we're gonna see the Brazilian government has rolled into town while These flaps are taking place and they are being told they're not only dealing with all of these mysterious Syndrome and people coming in with radioactivity burns They are also being told by a dude and camouflage being like don't tell them fucking anything that's happening And so they have to all of these people like what's wrong with me? What is happening to me?
Starting point is 00:10:29 And they're all like clouds By the way every time you guys say the word flaps I feel like your body shaming me so maybe we could do a different word No, that is the technical term any it always have to when I imagine a group of UFOs I always imagine that you fall to just breast and In addition all that the Brazilian government took it seriously enough where it fully admitted that UFOs were indeed real in 1986 years after the initial investigation when further evidence presented itself dude This shit is legit as soon as you pop the lid off of this story You will see that the Brazilian government has put a fuck ton of time energy and money into the quote-unquote UFO problem
Starting point is 00:11:18 But they could have they could have worked on the economy a little bit No, they did something fun with their energy instead of We need roads. Oh, we need highways Instead decided to crack this nut and I think that that's the my biggest takeaway From this entire story is just like holy shit. They put real fucking resources into this Yeah, these are the most credible UFO stories that I've personally ever been involved with All right, and I personally involved I mean sat in my underwear watching YouTube documentaries in Portuguese
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, I need to understand the gestalt of what they're saying by how their eyebrows are bouncing up and down you nailed it But with all this together it doesn't necessarily mean that aliens were behind it all Yeah, yeah, we know is that something sinister was going on in the 70s in and around the small town of Colaris Near the Delta of the Amazon River in Northeastern Brazil Don't even fucking think of saying the word alien He'll run jock-villain really why not he will kick you in your pubic bone with his tiny French Like little shoes really healed boot. He will step upon your big gigantic swollen Clot-filled toe with his pointy pointy leathers. Well, then what's the fun if it's just a UFO?
Starting point is 00:12:41 I mean, I think you got to have aliens in there No, it's just a little bit more spicy than an alien Maybe the so-called extraterrestrial hypothesis has been wrong altogether and maybe just maybe there's some form of Interdimensional intelligence that exists right on top of us and they don't need to come from Alpha Centauri They don't need to come through a wormhole They don't need to come from some from the supposed binary star system that we're a part of Marcus you too, buddy That's a part of what's going on right now is that we're a part of the false Sun system Look up binary star system that we're ready. You could really get some interesting literature. That's great
Starting point is 00:13:18 So anyway, ladies and gentlemen, that was a paragraph of what not to say on a first date You'll never find love I really hit a volume I didn't mean to but Jacques Valet Says explicitly again that the that's what I like about Jacques Valet is that he is not trying to make this make literal sense He's taking the evidence empirically Okay, and saying these are the things that people are seeing does that necessarily sound like a plane or a ship? No, so instead of saying the real then maybe we need to think about it There's so much what seems to be first-person evidence and experience of these situations that they
Starting point is 00:13:59 There there's something to the bottom of it that may not just be a nuts and bolts craft Maybe it's coming halfway from our own mind strangely enough. I can see you gaining weight Isn't that weird? But let's suppose for a second that they were UFOs Okay, and taking it further Let's suppose that the UFOs were if not malevolent then they were at the very least Disrespectful enough towards humans that they treated us with no more care than a child does when they pick the legs off a cockroach Yeah, and I ain't gonna be disrespected for most space refrigerators All right, if you go to mine
Starting point is 00:14:37 Is that a T-Mobile commercial? LG for LG farms, wherever they grow the refrigerators. Oh, yeah refrigerator trees I refuse to believe that my refrigerator slowly planning on Zapping my wife's body because they attack breasts quite a bit Is that right? That's actually really true, and I it's like leave the breasts alone aliens. No kid And if we suppose that they were UFOs at raises questions Why for example did all of this only happen in Brazil? Which as far as we know is the only instance of a cluster of UFO attacks of this sort
Starting point is 00:15:12 This has never happened anywhere else before or since is it possible that the culture of Brazil is a little bit chatty and That they said oh my god The and the the refrigerator showed up in the UFO showed up and they're like we really hit ourselves a pocket full of people that like to talk And so we got to go to like Texacan or Texacarny Texacana we got to go somewhere where people are a little bit more humble and mum Did you read that Adele book untamed this weekend? Are you untamed? She didn't write it she just
Starting point is 00:15:45 Adele and leave her alone off. Oh my god. Everyone needs to leave Adele alone. She's very happy and healthy and leave her alone Thank you Judgmental all the time, but then you're kind of heading into John Tenney world when we talk on purpose. I did that Tenney is a paranormal researcher that we have worked with we did an interview with him for The patreon series for last podcast and we and he is great He's a part of the Hellier series so nice go follow him on Twitter. He's a good follow But he talks about what if the we don't know what the agenda of whatever that intelligence is, right? Maybe there is a mechanism within
Starting point is 00:16:26 Whatever that is whether they come from another planet or they are Interdimensional or they come from inside our planet that are they conscious of not wanting to be seen or known and is that why it's so Difficult to get a proper picture of them because even in this case they had cameras They the Brazilian government is going to install an entire surveillance system for three months and only get they see shit But they're only getting certain pictures and then we wonder why are they such shape jifters like what is it about like that? They appearing like this in Brazil and not That way all around the rest of the world and what is there? What is their purpose? Yeah, and furthermore like, you know, they different areas of the world seem to have different flavors of UFO
Starting point is 00:17:11 Experiences like if you remember like up here in the northeastern United States like a lot of the UFO encounters up here They're gigantic triangular crafts, you know Hudson Valley sightings and all that and the Phoenix lights are very very akin to it the ideas of like seeing a thing that looks like a giant cloud and all of a sudden you realize it has like a Structure and then they're like solid lights in it And if you go over to Africa, then UFO encounters are a lot more shamanistic a lot more psychedelic It's something different entirely if you want to have a fun afternoon and again make you make you less accessible as a human being Okay, fucking spark of Spark the longest leaf that you can fold into your lip and watch credo mutwa talk with David Ike for six hours
Starting point is 00:17:54 That's good for your brain. I didn't say good. Okay. I said it's a challenge to see if you could fit that much truth Really your mind, but credo mutwa is We covered a story of his when we did the sexual liaisons with the alien He has a lot more where that came from. Oh my goodness But if you're gonna be fun with it and I say let's be fun with it Let's be fun with it. Yes, it's a possibility that different alien species may have dominion over different parts of the earth And it might just be that Brazil and quite possibly the whole of South America when you take their fucking cryptid experiences a new account Could be that that area was given over to some of the more aggressive B teamers of the alien
Starting point is 00:18:40 Experimentation community, man, you're just about to get chupa chupa buddy I actually wonder if we'd even say this is B teamers I wonder if this is more like a fucking version of the suicide squad This is a well the suicide squad's kind of the B team, isn't it? No Of course the suit the Justice League is the A team. Oh you both You men I don't know. Well, I don't know. I mean this is just my interpretation from what I've read about the
Starting point is 00:19:16 Calaris Sightings and the abductions and all that it seems like they kind of don't know what the fuck they're doing It does sound like it's a bunch of like when I got knockout game or now that Rick Moranis got knocked out Oh, that was very sad and the upper east side leave Rick This leave him alone episode leave Rick Moranis alone But that idea of maybe they're young dumb full of cum And these chupa chupas are just trying to blow off steam. Okay, it's like a training exercise Or the it's it almost sometimes it feels like they like bought a new tool like a new tractor beam
Starting point is 00:19:50 And they got and they traveled all the way from fucking Alpha Centaur and they got to earth and they didn't test the fucking tractor Beam before they left and then when they got to earth they fucking discovered that it doesn't work very well Oh, it's like the way we're dispersing all the protesters now with our new toys That's what they learned from the US government. Maybe it's being like well if you're gonna pump all this money to R&D We have to use it at some point. Absolutely But even if it wasn't aliens whatever it was made the people of Calaris believe that something was after them They were so frightened that many of the women and children left town and the men let bonfires at night and shot off Fireworks in an attempt to keep the ships away. This really immobilized this part of Brazil
Starting point is 00:20:33 So it's because this was a hard-working. It was a working-class part of the country These are fishermen. These are fishermen towns these like and farmers and farmers and they literally couldn't do their jobs They were starving it got to the point where they couldn't figure they were running out of food They were running out of money and they the whole city was just shut down Because they were so terrified of this phenomenon that to me that rings of like I know everyone's to say group elucidation mass hysteria, but again who benefits from this if you're literally running out of food To eat or could it be the men were sick of the children and their wives So they would be forced to evacuate
Starting point is 00:21:15 It must have been one fun we they must have had a fun first weekend Yeah, the first weekend probably was pretty fun, but all that shit went away because they discovered the more noise They made the closer the craft came As if the craft was either curious or was daring the men of Calaris to take the conflict to the next level You have to play the silent game even when you're even when your friend perhaps get a little roundy a little rendy Since they're fucking women the wives Very lonely and fishermen are very lonely this thing out with fish all the days, but you know Marcus knows ranchers They don't have sex with the other men. They have sex with the animals. Yeah, well, yep
Starting point is 00:22:07 That's what they do. They don't masturbate either. They just have sex with the animals somehow. That's better. It's not better But before we get too deep into the story, let's acknowledge our main source for this episode today We've got UFO danger zone terror and death in Brazil by Bob Pratt It's a great name for a book Well Bob Pratt previous to this was a journalist at a daily newspaper in Virginia But he quit because he wasn't allowed to publish the stack of UFO paranormal and Bigfoot stories He had at the ready Honestly that newspaper editor needs to be fired newspapers are in dire need of readers put what's in seats
Starting point is 00:22:52 Put what's in seats just publish the damn UFO stuff. Yeah, and since Brazil only had a few hundred active UFO Investigators in a country of over 200 million Bob decided to travel down to South America To see what he could see in Brazil and this is what Bob saw also Bob had a trunk full of tassels and an ass that just wouldn't quit really and so he was built for Brazil And he knew he was just wasting his time and energy in Virginia So no one wanted to see him swivel and nobody cared about Carnival not a diss But it's a flat-butt country Virginians gray people, but it is a flat-tush place Oh, man, now we're gonna get a pile of big-butt letters. No, well, that's
Starting point is 00:23:37 This is this is not required reading for this subject But I'm going to say as a student if you are consider yourself either remotely a student of UFO You should be reading Jacques Valet's confrontations Which is where this story first sort of was broke and Bob Pratt was Inspired by Jacques Valet and kind of took the ball and ran with it But Jacques Valet is my favorite writer as I've said for years now Yes, you have but it's because of his attitude towards the subject and it's also because you guys can share shoes Yeah, I do wish I could fit in his Frenchman feet. He's also a million. He's a millionaire
Starting point is 00:24:17 Is he really he's a futurist and he's deep into the world of technology and hedge fund shit now It's very very interesting. He's recently getting back the UFOs now that I think Tom DeLong's paying him He's kind of on the he's kind of on the TTSA train So some people are now like there's like a needy clamp bank and junk valet kind of movement But it's like read confrontations and then see if your clapping is warranted You wound yourself up and got yourself mad buddy Now we don't know exactly who the first victim of the 1970s Brazilian UFO flap was But we do know that these types of UFOs began showing up in Brazil in
Starting point is 00:25:00 1971 when Jose de Souza a farmer and Pux Inana was chased by a vaporous ball of light 10 meters in diameter as he was walking home from work I'm gonna say this also right now the three of us I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say we could not be farther from Portuguese Yeah, and I want to say Marcus has some experience with Spanish. Yeah, I do but it's different than Portuguese It's much a yes, but Spanish and Portuguese are two very different language completely different language They're American. They're they're similar, but yeah, yes I took six years of Spanish in high school. I mean not in high school from high school when I take it
Starting point is 00:25:37 Did you go to this high school for six years? Yeah, it was a medical school for children Really? I was doing autopsies of the age of 16 years old. Wow. I think that's the plot of Doogie Howes room So we are going to maybe I'm gonna say maybe trample On the Portuguese language unfortunately. Yeah, I barely had time to write this did not have time to learn Portuguese That's fine. I think it's I think it's just great
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's like it Canadian versus American. It's kind of like Spanish But it's Portuguese. So here we go English and German. I think English and German It's two different languages in Canada. They speak English. Oh, so we actually speak the same language They just say a boot and they're passive-aggressive. You can't yes, you can't apologize if you speak real English But Jose de Souza at the time no one believed him He ran all the way home to his mother that night and immediately told her what happened But she dismissed the whole story saying that Jose had just seen a ghost because men who walk around at night Always meet up with ghosts. I do love
Starting point is 00:26:46 His mother be like you're crazy. You just saw a ghost. Hey, if you tell me you saw you have a one more time I'm gonna get you up. We know you're drinking again. Okay aliens that is far-fetched you my friend had a dinner with a Phantasma The next sighting we know of came five years later near the southern town of Jabba Tika Tupas And what is known as the Valley of Old Women? Oh get me there There's nothing better than Milf Canyon. Yes There a 30 year old man named Cecilio was walking at night with some elderly neighbors when a UFO appeared come come to the sausage restaurant elderly neighbors come
Starting point is 00:27:31 It's very excited for sausage at night very very excited CC. I think I say see Perfect nailed it. They all started running run run to the sausages sausages will be dry Guy caramba. What is that sky? Just flawless flawless Henry, but surprisingly Cecilio's elderly companions left him behind when his sandal broke Because he had it had broken on a patch of sharp stones. Oh Oh, you only have to be faster than your buddy. Yes, indeed Cecilio said that when the UFO caught up to him It looked like an open umbrella and hovered above surrounded by the smell of sulfur. Hmm. Finally when it flew away
Starting point is 00:28:18 Cecilio began vomiting. This is like Marcus's I want to say day camp experience where you just got drive-by farted on That was very mean spirited of the very mean kids very mean I still Got a laugh thinking about it, but it was more than day camp. It was just elementary school the entirety of it Yeah, kids do the far. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a fun summer thing. It was your reality For like a year for kid, but Cecilio was good We're gonna see that the UFOs farting on people and making them throw up is actually very common trope in the Brazilian UFO flap Mm-hmm. Okay, Cecilio eventually made it home and he stopped to vomit multiple times along the way
Starting point is 00:29:02 But he couldn't stop and once he got home the uncontrollable vomiting continued and he kept vomiting until he just fucking died What yeah, he died from vomiting too much. That's a rock star's death though That's kind of fun. That happens outside the Roxy. No, you have to have been a rock star Well, you had the rock star death. I'm not saying he was a rock star dinner with his old friends elderly people in Valley of the Old Women Rockstar in the same exact situation to Sammy Hagar. Yes, of course About a month later again in the Valley of the Old Women There was what seemed to be the first known attempted abduction on that night Hermalindo de Silva was walking home in a UFO about 10 feet in diameter appeared right above him
Starting point is 00:29:55 I was trusty dog immediately abandoned him. What Hermalindo wasn't going without a fight Georgie would run away immediately That is not good at all then honestly the dog. I mean, well, you can't punish it too much, but that's not getting treats that night Definitely Well, Hermalindo wasn't going without a fight. He picked up a pole and thrust it toward the UFO, but the UFO gave him a zap Oh, then four steel cables with hooks dropped down from the small craft with the obvious intent to drag Hermalindo back into the UFO and then he looked up and he saw that it was fucking Pinhead Centabyte mobile that is cool as hell. By the way, I am here for whatever this resurgence is of Clive Barker's work
Starting point is 00:30:43 They're making night breed again. Pinhead's coming back. Hellraiser's coming back. There's gonna be a TV series I think I'm here for it legitimately. I think that he got the rights back though Revered the right to revert it to Clive Barker and now he's just decided to make money on it again. Please God. Yep I love that love hellraiser But Hermalindo kept fighting and during his resistance a creature about four feet tall slid down one of the cables like a tiny little action hero Try and subdue Hermalindo by hand. You cannot kill me, dull man. You cannot kill me I have strength of pole. I am the strongest man in the valley of the old women
Starting point is 00:31:20 He's like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible and probably the exact same size and he's just coming down there But now you think about Tom Cruise's size and think about how brave he is. He's not that well I do like that he does his own stunts. I know I actually do like that. He does his own stunts Now Hermalindo wasn't taking any of this shit, but he couldn't get a grip on the creature because the creature was wearing this smooth metal soup He's very slippery. Hi, I am the metal pill I cannot get me. They call me space up man. Oh space up man. No kidding. Don't drop you But being much larger than the alien Hermalindo bear hugged it and threw it to the ground It's like when Hulk Hogan wrestled Andra the Giant into what some would call a super boring match
Starting point is 00:32:03 But others would call it super super boring But throw in the creature to the ground ended up being a grave mistake Because this enabled the creature to slip a hook around Hermalindo's left ankle before it scurried back up the steel cable to the safety of the craft got the fish Once the creature was back with its crew the cable began retracting pulling Hermalindo up into the sky toward a large Black hole open at the bottom of the craft, but even as the craft was pulling him back up It was also flying away, and it happened to fly in the direction of Hermalindo's home as he screamed for help dangling from a UFO
Starting point is 00:32:47 Can you drop me off here, please? All this screaming woke up Hermalindo's brother-in-law Who woke up just in time to see Hermalindo knock the cable loose from his ankle and fall 20 feet to the ground Right into the blades of a big yucca plant. Oh that hurts. Oh That's gotta hurt like a motherfucker. Yes, it does And after that the UFO chalked up the encounter as a loss and flew away into the night sky and other than the cuts and Scratches from falling into a yucca plant from 20 feet up Hermalindo was shaken but unharmed. Okay, can I say that there is in my mind? Joe we'll start with the jockelay threading in the way it attacked him
Starting point is 00:33:34 It's not unlike the way a fisherman gets a fish That's what I was thinking if he was a fisherman by trade which quite a bit of these people were My question is is that in some way shape or form? Is it like the stay puff marshmallow man? Does something come from the very back of your subconscious and like it's a thought that you have because you wake up every day And you think how many fish am I gonna get today? I can't wait you feel guilty buckets and buckets and buckets of slippery fish now I think it's just more of a default thought and then all of a sudden now he in fact Himself is getting fished. That's why whenever the I get abducted by UFOs
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's a little delivery outside of my door, and it says McDonald's on it Yes, and then I put my hand in it and it sucks me through and now I'm the Big Mac God you'd be a big old Mac. Yes Louis Fernanded Barroso was not as lucky as Hermalindo And what seems like the first instance of light beam technology, which is obviously a step up from the hook method Louis was unfortunate enough to have an encounter as he was walking home one night with his donkey Isn't it fun to have the social distance dinner out Brutal? Fun how we get to sit and have a nice time together. Yes. Yes lick your penis
Starting point is 00:34:51 I love to walk with you Brutal. Oh my god About two hours before daylight Luis said a large object came out of the sky Hovered above him and blasted both him and his donkey with a hot light that caused both of them to pass out cold Oh, this is huge. Yeah. Yeah, when he awoke he was nauseous He had uncontrollable vomiting and insane diarrhea. He had headaches and no doctor was able to figure out what was wrong After three months his hair turned white and after six He lost his mental faculties and spent the remaining 17 years of his life sitting in a chair doing nothing But staring straight ahead
Starting point is 00:35:38 Honestly, that is the dream That is the ultimate goal. That's what Puffin does. That's all my dog Puffin does. I think Puffin's blind. He's happy Back to the hooks for a second They did try it one more time before switching solely to the light lasso Around the same time as Harmalindo's encounter an elderly man named Antonio Amador de Lima had a similar encounter When a UFO descended and hooked him on the back of his shirt. It's like what they used to do to nerds. Yeah When the hook pulled him up into the air toward the UFO Antonio was able to get a look inside and he saw three people
Starting point is 00:36:18 Strange and ugly with short black hair and yellow arms said they didn't look Brazilian at all. Huh? But Antonio said that once they saw him They told him quote here is a good old man. We can take with us to our earth After 15 minutes though the shirt could no longer support Antonio's weight and the hole made by the hook ripped Horrible Antonio fell back to the ground so the UFO again just spun a few times and blew away These UFOs do not have tenacity. No, you got it. You ever try try try again
Starting point is 00:36:56 I mean it can't be that difficult to get him back up also hook the flesh I wonder because they are going all of these are going to escalate Okay, we're going to see the the in their own serial killer fashion begin to try things out It seems like playfully and eventually refine the way they quote-unquote attack Okay, well, it's like I said earlier like it's playful in the way that like a six-year-old kid is playful and ripping apart a Bug like he doesn't exactly know what he's doing. Not really He doesn't see the bug as a sentient being just like these Creatures or whatever's in there may not see humans as equal beings are not even close to being sentient
Starting point is 00:37:38 You've mentioned this a few times about six-year-olds tearing apart bugs now I don't remember doing that when I was six Were you a big bug tear apart or Marcus? It is a very common thing for children to do You know, but you know you burnt burning the bugs on the sidewalk with the magnifying glass all that shit What I did was I remember we used to have a big ant colony in a tree and every once in a while There would be this big ant colony and I just would feel the power of I would get the hose No, no, no, I was always like I like the poop on the inside And also when I was potty training my parents said that whenever I had a poop in the diaper I go hide behind the lamp
Starting point is 00:38:16 I literally go hide behind a lamp and sit and just stare from behind the lamp You did learn shame at a young age really did thank you Catholicism, but I would go like an angry god with my hose and just Commit mass and genocide. We had a hornet's nest now. We're really talking bugs here, huh? We had a hornet's nest right underneath our front step And I did raid that a little bit and put some glue in there and stuff So I get what you're saying there. You're telling me you never pissed on an anthill. Oh, of course. I did I did everything On purpose I mean normally would but but I was more fascinated with ants when they would like it in our above-ground pool Not to be tell you how good we had it in Queens. Wow, you're an above-ground
Starting point is 00:38:58 But the idea of like I like to watch them like kind of walk around on my and like pick up a little ant kind of see it Walk around. I didn't always try to torture it. That's very nice, Henry. Yeah Well back to Antonio like many people who had a UFO encounter in Brazil He never again went outside after dark for the rest of his life Geez honestly if a hook came out of the sky, yeah Rain I'm like that's would that is always the stuff that kind of tickles the balls of my mind is These concepts of someone who is so Unbelievably traumatized by what happened to them. I watched a documentary on a ductees on Amazon that was like old school
Starting point is 00:39:37 It was I forgot what the hell was called But it was with bud Hopkins the original like researcher of abductees and him talking to these people whose lives were Shattered by their experiences and the ones that realized what happened You kind of see this like the the stripes of trauma of being treated as if I mean again We're used to a certain amount of respect on planet Earth as humans Yeah, we are some things that aren't human. Yeah. Oh sure We are used to being the top of the food chain. I don't know if you've ever heard of platypus disis You should see what they're saying but as
Starting point is 00:40:12 The imagine you're walking along and you have a certain set of rules of reality does not include Hooks coming from a UFO from the sky and attempting to bait me Everybody's bingo sheet for the day. Yeah, as soon as you get once that happens to you. I don't think you're ever the same I yeah, yeah a lot of it some people went out never went outside again for the rest of their lives Some people it took them months other people like there was one guy who would go outside afterwards But refused to smoke outside at night ever again because he believed that the cherry from a cigarette was what attracted the aliens in The first place. I mean it is just a scrambling of rationale I think that's what would attract the Chupa parks, which is the Chupacabra Marcus parks
Starting point is 00:41:00 But Antonio aged quickly after his encounter and spent the last five years of his life lying in a hammock inside Hiding from the rest of the world. Hey, and maybe I am just getting too used to quarantine As long as he's having fun, it's not like it's not it's down there like hammocks is just it's you would rather have a bed People just sleep on hammocks. I yeah, yeah, it is a yeah, it is a not a luxury. It is a that's how they live Yeah, I love okay, look it's I don't like the hammock. I don't like We're anti hammock. I hate him's there is however one interesting contradiction in Antonio's story While he later told people that the aliens had called him a quote good old man His daughter remembers him telling her something entirely different
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh when it first happened She said that he told her that the aliens had deemed him to be too old and of no use to them And that's why they left him although I'm not sure what the significance of this contradiction is You don't think I can still make the milk. I'll make the milk right now That's but we'll see that's what's interesting about this phenomena versus the US phenomena because this Phenomena in Brazil has a little of the cum draining that you see in the US version of abductions in US It's way more about what we were so we were talking about this one on our phone call about this It's way more about whatever the quote-unquote hybrid program is yeah reproductive rights that were not reproductive rights
Starting point is 00:42:45 Just wow reproductive Let's bring this up, and this is why we're here to talk. Let's just take it a strong right turn Let's talk scotis reproduction. That's what a lot of the UFOs in America North America in general are concerned with I see These Brazilian UFOs use seem to be straight up out Literally for blood like they want our blood weird now It's at this point in the story that things start to get a little more dangerous for the people of Brazil But according to Jacques Valet, there was one UFO encounter in Brazil back in the 40s that resulted in a Grizzly death. Hmm. I'm gonna read you a selection from Jacques Valet's
Starting point is 00:43:25 Confrontations. Okay. Well, this is a great presentation. You're in sixth grade. Do you think this is safe for the class? Everyone must know what I know teacher The year was 1946 and two men wow Precious feel-ho in his friend Salvador dos Santos were returning from a fishing trip near the Brazilian village of Acra quagwama Perfect Reached a village where they live they bade one another farewell and went their separate ways the time was 7 p.m. An hour later Precious showed up at his sister's home with a strange story a beam of light had hit him as he was
Starting point is 00:44:01 Reaching his front door. It stunned and blinded him. He fell to the ground without losing consciousness Hmm. He managed to get up and make his way to her house the same evening Precious's condition deteriorated rapidly witnesses said that his flesh literally Detached itself from his bones. It was if he had been boiled in hot water for a long time So that his skin and the underlying tissue fell off Precious was not in pain, but he was understandably in an increasing state of terror Mm-hmm soon. He was unable to speak the villagers placed him in a cart Intending to take him to the hospital, but he died enroute about six hours after being hit by the beam of light
Starting point is 00:44:45 He remained conscious until the end. Oh When his body was bought back his flesh had fallen off to the point where the corpse looked decomposed Wow put that in a barbecue cook off my god Oh, it's off the bone sloth and off just sloth and off nasty. Okay now Even though there were plenty of UFO sightings in the time leading up. It was in 1977 that the Brazilian UFO flap truly began Are you gonna why are you taking your shirt off again? It's just for Marcus and I it's all audio That's the sound. That's the sound of my little making my little nice. Mm-hmm beautiful Henry. Thank you in July of 1977
Starting point is 00:45:29 a man named Alfredo Marquis Suarez was walking home at night from a neighbor's house when a burning sensation Struck his left leg from behind. There's a burning in my rectum Oh, yes indeed a rector dang near God hurry fine position at a pizza place When Alfredo looked back he saw a beam of light yellowish white shining on his skin Whatever it was it grabbed hold and began pulling Alfredo toward the sky So Alfredo grabbed a wooden fence and held on as the force continued to pull Finally it let go and Alfredo tried running under a cashew tree But the leg that had been pulled by the beam was numb
Starting point is 00:46:16 So he just started running around in circles instead. He had no fucking choice Hot and cold at the same time and he was shaking with sickness This is such an example of a neighbor like watching out the window like watching a man be lifted by a beam of light Holding on to a fence and then like running in a circle with like doing the Ellen dance. Like do you remember? I love that. Yeah, he's just sitting there being like I guess sober October is over Stopper spinny September Eventually the light gave up grew dim and disappeared when Alfredo got home. His leg was black and burned It blistered and became infected and for two more days Alfredo had diarrhea
Starting point is 00:46:58 And it took three months for his injured leg to be useful again Damn the first day must have been fun though with the diarrhea The first day is never as bad until you get dehydrated and then it's very dangerous We've talked about this many times more times than we've talked about anything else that is Useful on the show. Yes, indeed And if the Brazilian UFO light beam attacks would have ended there We probably would have never heard Alfredo's story Hmm, but it kept happening again and again and again and three months later
Starting point is 00:47:34 40 other people in the area Experienced similar attacks and actually and they went to the hospital to get treated for this What did they say to any information on the hospital like where the nurses like we've seen this before well There is a lot of evidence that shows that people went in for what is just essentially radiation burns They said that they wouldn't they would not hurt necessarily on the outside they would just be raw and Essentially the skin looked like it was the way to describe like microwaved and sometimes they'd be covered with like little bumps hard bumps That look like bug bites and they couldn't quite determine what the hell it was
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah, and people were coming in and like after the first there was one Doctor that treated a lot of these people and said that as when the first few people were coming in Uh, everyone they they were saying like okay, this is mass hysteria. Ha ha like who knows what the fuck this is These people are all crazy or something right then once it got to be like 10 20 30 people That's when they really started paying attention and asking what was really going on here and the doctor said that she herself Saw UFOs on multiple occasions because it got to be such it got to be such a Normal thing that a night wouldn't go by without seeing without someone seeing a UFO. Okay
Starting point is 00:48:54 But perhaps the most terrifying encounter came on Crab Island Scary Around the time of the UFO attack on Alfredo Four men headed out to Crab Island off the coast of Brazil to cut down trees for construction materials They traveled to the island by boat and were planning to leave around midnight when the tide came in and the men Decided to stay until morning All four fell asleep, but only three woke up to sheer horror the first man
Starting point is 00:49:30 Oleriano had a burned butt and yet his clothes were completely intact He got sat by a laser and went through the pant. Oh Mm-hmm, and that isn't so bad considering everyone else's condition a companion named for many Oh was burned so badly all over his body that again his skin was sloffing off in chunks Yikes, but the third was by far the worst Even though he had only superficial burns from what I can tell from the account Jose Sousa 22 and otherwise healthy was stone Dead although no autopsy was performed his death certificate listed Cerebral vascular accident caused by emotional shock as the cause of death in other words
Starting point is 00:50:15 Jose Sousa was scared to death I mean, I don't mean it's a good this death, but you know That's yeah, I get aliens fucking getting some on there and scorecard fucking aliens for human zero that time You out and also you can die of a broken heart I saw that on the internet where it's true the blood vessels and stuff like that. They can kill you Are you just looking up this like the logic behind country music lyrics late in the night? Well as far as the survivors of Crab Island went for Minio was in a coma for a week And his left arm was so badly burned. He lost complete use of the appendage
Starting point is 00:50:57 While all a riano seemed to have gotten away with just a burned butt My goodness gracious, but the other guy had nothing other guy had nothing nothing at all. Yeah, okay He just wanted it too much. He wanted it too much indeed As far as what the burns looked like a doctor said the injuries were consistent with a lightning strike But that was an impossibility for it to be lightning The bolt would have had to hit the sand bounce back up then travel sideways Inside the boat hitting three men at the same time while also managing to set nothing on fire And then that same lightning bolt will jump back in time to Dallas, November 1963
Starting point is 00:51:39 Do the left and furthermore there was one of them Apollonario who wasn't a rose off the tongue Apollonario, Apollonario, Apollonario, you just have to say it a few times Apollonario Apollonario, Apollonario, yeah, but he wasn't burned at all and instead his problem was long term His health failed and after a year the left side of his body just stopped working and he never recovered What's insane though is that nine years later? It happened again in the same place same place What can you say if your left side of your body just stops working? Can you just say it's retired? Yeah, I think you can yeah, that's a warm and voluntary retirement. I need a vacation for my vacation. You had a stroke
Starting point is 00:52:26 Four men sailed to Crab Island for wood nine years after the first incident and again Three were injured with burns while the fourth died with nary a mark on his body Other than a bit of blood coming out of his mouth and that's just from flossing. Yes indeed In other words, there was some weird shit going on down in Brazil and it wasn't only happening to the men in 1979 a woman named Rosalito was pulled up by the light but was able to resist by grabbing onto a pole and Screaming for her husband until the UFO gave up And there was a lot of tales of women being zapped by beams on their breasts and I mean this you've been talking a lot about this
Starting point is 00:53:07 This is true is that they were discovering that these women were having like bite marks and burn marks on the tissue of their breasts So they're in Brazil. Of course, they're going after the butts in the boobs. They want the meat They want the perhaps is that I mean honestly, is that what they're going after? Ask ask Marcus. I am asking Marcus. I'm definitely not asking you because you're just gonna get it horned up over there Well, the guy with the burn, but as far as I know, that's the only but burn that we got and we're going for what Brazil's known for We're definitely going for they've no more for butts Mm-hmm. Yes, they are. Yeah, I've seen some of the literature Well, actually the aliens or whatever they were
Starting point is 00:53:46 Sort of seemed like they just weren't very good at whatever it is They were trying to do and the town of macambo a 14-year-old boy named Giulianetti Saw a glowing object and felt himself being pulled up But instead of running Giulianetti just stood there not grab it on to anything Oh, and he never left the ground. He said the pulling was intermittent not steady as If the aliens were just trying to figure out how to properly use the beam They were just practicing on these people. Yeah, they were just giving little tugs. My goodness Nothing I like better than a tiny little space took yes indeed
Starting point is 00:54:23 But eventually the UFOs did figure it out and in March of 1978 Luis Carlos Cera was taken up through the beam and was gone for three entire days and came back with hardly any memory of What had happened? All anyone knew was that he'd been found on a jungle path in terrible condition Unable to speak or move and most bizarrely. He was completely bald were before he'd had long hair The long hair was the lie Oh, it was a wick like the main villain from almost heroes Well, this is him like trying to figure out how to transition away from the wigs
Starting point is 00:55:04 Like maybe you start to get like a rash from the lace front So he has to like figure out a way to like get out of this whole scenario I'm just happy he disappears for a couple days says he was abducted shows back up Like Ace Ventura when nature calls coming out of the right now You just have to do it one day like John Travolta like he just did it. He just looks great bald We all knew John. We all knew but this kid's hair hadn't been shaved off by a doctor's estimation It had been burned to the root Because the tops of his ears were slightly singed as well. Oh, but the cruelest thing done to Luis involved his teeth
Starting point is 00:55:40 Four of his teeth had been pulled out while others had been broken and they hadn't done a very good job either While one tooth was pulled out completely the other three missing teeth had left behind the roots I can't do teeth stuff still don't like it no matter how many times I've seen horror films where they pull out the teeth I still just knock I can do high stuff. I used to not be able to do any high stuff or nail stuff teeth I'm fine with high stuff. I like high stuff. When Luis finally recovered He said he'd been picking guava fruit in the jungle when he heard something that sounded like a car horn Followed by a bright light above the palms Apparently the UFO inhabitants had finally figured out how to use the tractor beam
Starting point is 00:56:27 They laid Luis flat on his back before pulling him up to the craft Luis said it was a classic flying saucer complete with a dome on top and once he was inside the dome He said he saw three creatures about three feet tall who spoke very loudly and very deeply in a language He didn't recognize please sit down. Do you want pretzels? This is my friend Frank you you seem to have problem understanding me. Do you need a seltzer? Do you want to sit and play co-op games with me and my friend? We have smash brothers. Have you heard of it? Wow? Luis said the last thing he remembered was the little people putting a tube up his nose and a Transparent ball in his mouth and the next thing he knew he was bald and partially toothless on the jungle path three days later
Starting point is 00:57:16 Oh my god, it sounds like he was partying with Motley crew indeed. They made him a little Christmas tree. That's not good I want to talk about the dream state of being involved in an alien abduction in this scenario I think there's a reason why there's a halfway mark with all of this shit people Experience these things people who've been abducted people who have dealt firsthand with entities quote-unquote a lot of times They talk about this kind of half world of logic where things kind of make sense But also don't like it come like how many times you're on mushrooms trying to put trying to figure out your television Remember that when I unplugged the TV a whole bunch, then we couldn't figure out how to plug it back in Yeah, cuz we were just looking at a bunch of cords like they were spaghetti and then everyone's be like where's the music
Starting point is 00:58:01 That literally happened and then that's when I showed up and fixed everything and you know I showed my worth Isn't that funny that nobody remembers that part Marcus? Yeah, no one remembers that part that I showed up and fix and fix everything and Yeah, thank you. Thank you Thank you There's something about like the tugs this kind of halfway working the pulling the teeth out there There's a I don't know how to really describe it. It's a dream logic that doesn't make full and complete total sense So in some way shape or form if they are like just aliens from another planet coming to experiment on us Why is it not more like photo realistic? Why is it so dreamlike?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Why are there because it sounds like all the things that happens in a nightmare? You know when you like can't run away of course the thing that's chasing you and you can't fight the person it's like you automatically enter into this sort of liminal space where you and This you're like in a shared reality with a thing that's maybe having a hard time staying in our dimension Like I wonder if that's a part of it like they're them crossing over to here if that is indeed what they're doing is not complete So you're only experiencing 50 to 70 percent of the event. I think it's more It could be that but it could be that combined With the phenomenon of the human brain just not being able to understand things sometimes like sometimes when you see it like you
Starting point is 00:59:30 Sometimes the human brain cannot comprehend What is being fed into the eyeballs and the brain sort of fills in the gaps? And that could be what this is the bits the brain not understand is just what these UFOs are Dealing with what they are on the inside. It's just too foreign for us to but we have no frame of reference for it It's crazy. These these experiences are so much more brutal almost I'm gonna say almost because of the this straight-up rape that happens in US Subductions is like a different type of brutality. It seems more cold and I'm casting you're talking about Hollywood cast There's certain things you have to do and you have to be able to keep a secret if you want to make it in this town
Starting point is 01:00:10 But these events in Brazil are like the getting the teeth half removed I've never heard of in any other scenario. Yeah, sounds like they didn't do it, right? Yeah, they don't do anything right. Okay, mr. Mr. Parks, I just find it interesting of like what is it about doing something incorrect that we're supposed to learn from? Mm-hmm. Do not do it that way. Yes Now by this point the people in this area of Brazil were getting mighty tired of the suck suck Especially when new sighting zones around the country reach saturation levels so high that nary a night passed without a UFO sighting And this wasn't just one small town like this was a large
Starting point is 01:00:53 Swath of Brazil like imagine if there were UFO sightings from Cleveland to New York City for a month straight Wow, that it's that area. It's that thick, okay? Yeah, and so the Brazilian Air Force finally got involved and project Prato began headed up by a man named Captain orangue Boliva Suarez New Guara de Holanda Lima aka Captain Holanda. That's the guy who likes tan hats. Well, that's a long badge It's a long badge now and Captain Holanda showed up. He found that people were actually taking shots at the UFOs with rifles and pistols Which caused damn near every Air Force official to yell Jesus Christ stop fucking doing that you West say you West say you West say
Starting point is 01:01:42 I'm actually happy to hear that that makes me feel that makes me feel less dumb for our country No, he said just doing it because it seemed to make it continue every single time they shot at them They would actually come and be more aggressive. Well, the the reason why Captain Holanda even got involved was because the mayor of Coladas, which we're about to go to which is an island community They the mayor of Colaris Finally had seen so many UFOs That he was so freaked out that he got there like basically there was like a posse of people together And they watched a group of UFOs and this is this is according to the mayor of Coladas
Starting point is 01:02:21 And it's an official record of operation plate Prato is that they looked up at the sky They saw these UFOs show what like fly over and then the entire town's electricity went out Whoo, and so they sat there and then finally finally the mayor was like we are calling the Air Force Okay now unlike the experiences that civilians have had with the United States Air Force when it comes to UFO sightings in our Territory the Brazilian Air Force while they were pretty hands-on They seem to be there at least a little bit to help out its citizens and to try to figure out what the fuck was going on They actually showed up with a team of psychologists to help like deal with the panic that had overtaken the entire fucking region They didn't even do that after Hurricane Katrina and that was definitely real
Starting point is 01:03:10 But they went they set up an entire base They set up a a way to watch the skies they started they put up video cameras and Motion-sensitive cameras to look up at that like at any single moment. Hmm. This is one of them in 1978 technology though but for any time this is one of the most comprehensive like Research attacks that a government has done on a UFO flap. They showed up. Okay. Yeah, they brought cars cameras radio transmitters They even fucking brought helicopters and at one point tried chasing the UFO with the helicopter But they turned around when the UFOs started chasing them The prey
Starting point is 01:04:03 This of all of the alien stories we've ever covered really shows like it's scary. This is fucking crazy Yeah, Laura's blew up Okay, but even so the presence of the Air Force did nothing to stop the attacks One woman named Claudio Miro Rodriguez Said that she was sleeping in her hammock outside when she was awoken by a beam of green light She looked up and saw a UFO and inside was a man wearing something like a diving suit Carrying something like a pistol and it was from this pistol that the green light was emitting and I was playing with my cat I'm playing with you
Starting point is 01:04:41 Really? Wow Claudio Maria said that when the beam struck her chest It took a little blood and left three scars in a triangle and she said it felt like being struck with a hot needle Afterward she was terrified and thirsty and when she became paralyzed because the para the paralysis came on slowly She started screaming and she was taken to a hospital where she was treated for an abnormally high fever for weeks But what's even more interesting is that when Captain Holanda was interviewing her about the experience a goddamn UFO Zipped right past and he wasn't the only one to see it that night. It seems like these UFOs are taunting them. Yeah Absolutely, they are conscious of whatever they know that humans are paying attention and Captain Holanda is a very
Starting point is 01:05:33 Interesting personality too because even after all this shit, he said that he probably saw 20 UFOs himself during this time period But he still does not fully believe because he's like I still am looking for another Explanation because I refuse to believe if they're coming here to kill us that they haven't just outright killed us all together Well, perhaps they're they're peaceful like Stephen Greer says I don't want to bring up Stephen Greer He's a disinformation agent. That's what you say too fucking much and he charges $2,500 a pop That's what you're mad about. I mean that's a part of it, but that's why you're upset. No, she's Stephen Greer He likes these aliens a little bit too much. Yeah, well
Starting point is 01:06:12 I think you got to be careful when you make a deal with the hildafook Encounters of the fifth kind if you want some info on Stephen Greer horrible shoes That's why you can't trust a new balance Overall Holanda interviewed between two and three hundred people over a six month period and by the end of it He and his team were able to document eight distinct styles of UFO You had the disc with windows the rectangle with a barrel on the side That's the chupa-chupa. That's like the classic chupa-chupa. Oh, that's the suck. Okay. Yeah The pyramid with the top cut off the cigar the arrowhead the dome the black and the white and the ball with three sticks
Starting point is 01:06:52 The ball with three sticks is also very interesting. That's the polish one I'll kill you I'll fucking kill you Yes, indeed But the ball with three sticks actually was recently seen over sundiago The same type of structure where you see that orb with the three little landing gear. It's cute as hell seems like to me That's like the vw bug of these Small in the outside big on the inside much like how marcus is a thin on the outside fat on the inside Yeah, I actually eat very healthily the vw. No, we talked about this on side stories
Starting point is 01:07:26 Your your love of the sweets. Although you just have a bite. Yeah, the little bites of candy Yeah, I just take a little bites. I consume so much less sugar than the two of you beer drinkers do But what's seemingly distinct to brazil is what came after a sighting Several reports said that sometimes after a craft or a ball of light appeared A window in the sky could be seen that seemed to be looking out onto a different place Entirely cool like phantasm. Yeah, take me dude. I want to see the window in the sky I want to take fucking 75 milligrams of edible sure get myself one last filly cheese steak And then just give me a little bit of a ladder into the hole so I can look up in there
Starting point is 01:08:21 Oh, I just I'm curious and to them you'd be really big. Isn't that interesting so you get to suffer You get to live in that reality where everything is too tiny because it's built by little people Yeah, but at the same time I'll be a sexual curiosity I'll be kareem abduldjabbar I'm gonna be out there fucking playing hoops. I'll fucking join the alien basketball association Destroy it up there doing crossovers being like the fucking the new larry bird the new larry bird Henry Zabrowski what we know from space jam aliens are actually quite good at basketball Now since there was so much attention given to these sightings
Starting point is 01:08:55 It was natural that the press would become involved It was actually a couple of journalists who experienced one of the most aggressive if somewhat petulant encounters with the ufo's But before that happened these two men had a different kind of encounter that was also Experienced by multiple people in the area. You know what was weird about this specific encounter was that the reporters Everybody was having ufo like moments. So these guys really wanted they wanted to scoop they wanted to see And so what they did was there was a rumor that if you use the colors red black and yellow That it would attract the ufo's that there's something about they said that it was often seen on the dome shape crafts Or the normal like the disco viades the like the actual like flying saucer shapes
Starting point is 01:09:47 Would have stripes of red black and yellow on them And so what they did was paint the top of their car Red black and yellow. This is true and before going out scoping for ufo's Interesting and told what happened happened. Well with uh with any luck people will confuse them for texas tech fans Who are red black and white? That's right yellow. Yes indeed. Get your guns up Get your guns up. My guns aren't as high as they used to be really a weekend. Love it. Yeah. No, you are very upset with those people Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially since You know, they're real um
Starting point is 01:10:22 They're real uh easy going right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and it's also like really mad though at the same time Which is super mad about like everything and like really aggressive and like want to tell you about it Whether you want to hear about it or not Well, the journalists said they were sleeping in their car when they were woken up by a powerful beam of light But the light wasn't shining through the windows Instead it was actually shining through the roof of the car passing through the solid metal completely As if the paneling was made of glass
Starting point is 01:10:56 And this happened again and again to people like in their homes in their cars Uh, they said it was a very unsettling thing to witness. Cool But there was one story Jacques Valle was talking about about a woman talking He was kind of talking about the abduction experience in general And this happens a lot, you know, how often you travel through they say abductees are taken from one spot And they see themselves traveling through their house or through a ship where a woman was before the Incident happened She was lying in bed and she realized she could see the moon
Starting point is 01:11:29 From her bed and looked up and her ceiling was gone And then all of a sudden the ship rolled over and then she was slowly tractor beamed up. Wow The petulant part with the journalists however came a few days later Those same dudes actually spotted one of the craft and they tried taking a picture But when the flash bulb went off the light coming from the ufo became bright and solid And it shattered the car's windshield. Whoa, Sean Penn Cool He hates paparazzi. Yes, he does. Well, they hunt him down
Starting point is 01:12:04 And still the attacks continued for years after each one was followed by numbness paralysis dizziness headaches diarrhea vomiting And chest pains for days if not months afterward and some victims lost the will to live completely Really? And what is that run alongside of radiation poisoning? Interesting And it wasn't just the poor farmers and fishermen either one of the largest land odors in the region Genuncio de suza was almost pulled into a silo-shaped craft by what appeared to be a man and a woman Genuncio said that when the light started pulling him up He wrapped his arms around a tree which caused the beam to pull him up and down up and down up and down
Starting point is 01:12:48 times until his chest was scraped raw and the alien was yelling all aboard the kuk train All aboard the kuk train, but who would be the kuk? Finally the ufo tried a new tactic and covered genuncio in something like hot oil to get him to let go It fucking shot you foe bullshit all over him He was like gripping onto a tree your ankles getting tilted for the love of god. I ain't even paying for this. I'm a landowner He persisted and the aliens gave up after only two minutes And like many people before and after Genuncio was afraid to go outside for the rest of his life and never fully regained either his strength or his health
Starting point is 01:13:41 Wow Do you think that at some point again? Maybe with some excuse for just being covered in oil to begin with Yeah, you explain it same damn thing happened to a sunbedo a couple of months later right down to the hot oil Now how hot was the oil? Was it super hot? Did it burn the skin? Not super hot. It was uh, warm oil Really hot massage oil kind of yeah warm warm enough where it's like what the fuck this is warm This is very very warm. Oh, you want a rub? Yeah, because then it gets all viscous and you're sitting there and you and your father is Just was wet as a couple of eels. Look at that. Yep can't hug your father then
Starting point is 01:14:17 No, yeah, just flopping around like a couple of salmon's both You've got your ankles tugged and both you don't know what happened. It sounds like a regular things given over at the kiss Lucky lady. I'll tell you that Now scary as all these encounters are nobody actually saw a ufo Deliberately kill a person outside. I you know that 1946 story When joc valet tried finding a witness But the closest he came to a ufo murder in the 70s was a guy who had a heart attack fell out of a tree And died during an encounter. That's the tree's fault. I think it's the heart's fault really
Starting point is 01:14:52 It's I mean that's manslaughter. I would say yeah negligent. Yeah negligent homicide Well, he climbed the tree. Did the aliens put him up? The aliens were pulling him up and he grabbed onto the tree. He had a heart attack fell out and died I couldn't take it couldn't take the heat. Well, there is a lot of talk about especially on joc valet side about are they purposefully attacking We I don't know it sounds sometimes The way he describes it is that they necessarily weren't purposefully attacking. It sounds like they either Surprised the ufo which is a very interesting concept that they stumbled upon the ufo and it was some sort of self-defense mechanism or
Starting point is 01:15:31 Oftentimes the ufo is seen scanning the ground with the same exact beam that they are getting zapped with So they also wonder whether or not What if there's a stun beam that you'd normally use for an abduction something like that? And instead if they're too physically close It kills them or they're doing a beam on something else And they're trying to maybe god knows what it does it makes frogs gay And then it turns over and it bounces off of you and then you get cancer from it I mean what joc valet said is that if they are trying to kill us
Starting point is 01:16:08 They are doing a terribly bad job at it a nut with a sniper rifle would have a higher kill count Than one of the what is assumed to be a highly advanced race of beings Well, I don't know if there's anyone more advanced than a psycho with a sniper rifle because they are scary and they can kill I'm scared. I don't have a sniper rifle. I want to get a big. I want to get a big gun I want a six juda see you say this about a gun. I prefer just one nuclear bomb. Yeah, just one If I had one I'd fix a lot of problems in this country. Don't think you would I would destroy a lot of stuff No, you understand. It's called leverage That's battlefield earth
Starting point is 01:16:45 Uh Oh, you know plenty of people they did die after the ufo encounter It just happened days weeks or months afterwards But it was a result of the ufo experience and there are some who believe that an entire group of hunters Who were found dead in the par narama region of brazil were killed after a ufo encounter in the jungle I think it was like 1981 right? Yes predator. It is like fucking predator than it's though. Oh shit Oh, even with the triangle even with the triangle dots
Starting point is 01:17:16 We can kill it. Yeah, that's so cool. I mean, I'm so happy that all of us are in the army and all of us are so cool Yeah, my buddies you and me. Yeah Marcus we're in the army now. Oh, yeah, we're in the army. Yeah. I mean, it's so cool being in the army. That's what's cool about it Put me in there. Yeah, I'm in demolitions And catering Even though the brazilian government took all of this very seriously and they even supposedly have pictures and videos stored away They still denied that all of these encounters were caused by ufos at least at the time But in 1986
Starting point is 01:17:51 Many years before disclosure here in the united states The brazilian government openly acknowledged the existence of ufos by holding a press conference to announce They've been tracking 21 ufos on radar in the previous days and several of their jets had chased the ufos to no avail It is brazil is a interesting ufo country because in 2005 they had a big old disclosure event as well They popped open the records of operation plate And they discovered all of the actual hard evidence that they had found and while they had very little video They had some kind of pictures that were a little bit on the edge because people didn't quite understand if you could identify or not But what they did have was sheets and sheets and sheets of officers saying luminous light
Starting point is 01:18:42 Saw a pyramid move from here to here like all of this witness testimony when we spoke with john tenney He was talking about the pyramids and the triangles that I believe that was all over detroit It seems like that's a really common form for these ufos to take Look at the black vault. The black vault has all of the operation a proto documents. Isn't that what Geraldo Rivera opened? Now the attacks died down as the 70s turned to the 80s But in 1990 the ufos returned and began attacking people in the exact same ways that they'd done a decade before Using the same pulling light and causing the same adverse effects But the weird thing was that they still
Starting point is 01:19:27 weren't very good at it if abducting people was indeed their goal Moises campillo a farmer in his mid 30s was faced one night with a bright flash of light Which was followed by an unsettling craft as large as a house that was noiselessly and slowly spinning Is it possible they were just fishing for nutrients the way that someone will throw a large Net into the ocean, but the next thing you know, there's a dolphin in there I you say I don't want a dolphin dammit. I like the dolphins and then of course the dolphin has to escape That is a theory again if they are nuts and bolts actual extraterrestrials
Starting point is 01:20:02 Maybe they are here on some form of research done sucked up and the people are just in the wrong spot at the wrong time Well, everything around moises lit up even brighter after that and everything got very hot He started to rise into the air so rigidly paralyzed that the cookies he was carrying under his arm were crushed This could I mean this could also just be like the story. He made up after he ate all the cookies You're abducted and you still ate all the cookies Yeah, it's not like I wasn't any less hungry because the fear really sparks it so It's weird though because you were getting probed and they just they let you have them, huh? I know I shouldn't have been messing with my new cookie crap
Starting point is 01:20:53 These cookie trees are real since the other numbers are running out of the cool milk it takes to grow Brazil is an awesome place But just as suddenly moises was let down to the ground gently and both the light and the ufo settled on top of a nearby tree Then it started doing it again using the light to pick him up and set him down pick him up and set him down over and over again The last time the light just dropped him and he fell so hard his left eye swelled and bulged out of his head And it took him a year before he could see out of it again like vader when he got his eye poked out Yeah, and like most of the others he no longer goes outside at night. I mean It's they have to face the fear at some point you got to go outside at night. It's weird. It's very very scary
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yes Other encounters, however, were not so dramatic a man named Antonio de Silva nicknamed balinga. That's just how you know He's joking Oh, he said he was walking home with his brother and his donkey late one night when they heard a loud pinging sound Both men quickly hid underneath the donkey with balinga wrapping himself around the front legs while his brother wow Wrapped around the back I mean, come on. It's you or the donkey I know, but I've heard that's the safest place you can be during an earthquake is under
Starting point is 01:22:28 their donkey They stayed under the donkey for several minutes and while the light did strike balinga on the back It didn't pull just getting covered in donkey piss and donkey shit. Yep. Well, okay Well, by the time the ufo left balinga found that his shirt was covered in a thick oily yellowish grease that smelled terrible That's not he was it was done. He was convinced that it came from the ufo But his wife quickly surmised that it was an indeed donkey piss. This is the only one that doesn't check out This is the one but also think about how scared the donkey was I mean, I just feel like it's that scene from kingpin where it's like milk the donkey
Starting point is 01:23:05 But like we don't have a donkey Wait, is there milk in donkeys and what i'm saying is he got pissed on he was jerking off the donkey Even his brother were having sex with the donkey and this is another story to cover up. Yes And there are other goofy stories sides of this one I mean back in 1965 two salesmen claimed they came upon a ufo while they were driving through brazil And then the ufo landed and then two robots came out. But then the men shot the robots Honestly, only the only way to get rid of a ufo and kind of where she's be like, hey, you want to buy a vacuum? And then the ufo was like i'm going i'm on you want to what about shower curtains?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Have you heard about our lord and master jesus christ? So anyway, it's so great that you abducted me because i'm here to tell you about herbal life And if I can get 18 of your species on board you're gonna make money Well the robots in the men's words after they shot them with rifles Silently exploded cool blinded the men for 15 minutes and when they recovered both the ufo and the robots were gone Those are just the enemies from teenage mutant ninja turtles the arcade game But this is a very common occurrence in ufo sightings and and all of it's something about the way our brains Interpreted and what it's supposed to mean. Jacques Valle calls all of this a massive control system
Starting point is 01:24:18 He believes that there is some form of us working with this dimensional intelligence Whether it's intrinsically a part of the reality that we are in like maybe it's it's just a it's an earth thing Baby that we're like a part of or is it this this other thing that that knows us and it's trying to teach us something But it's also it plays upon our pop culture references We see these robots pop out of the ship you see this quite often they They every generation it changes it goes into You know medieval times saw the chariots in the sky the all of you know read passport to mcgoni again You fucking pieces of shit before you start telling me you're making yourself bad
Starting point is 01:25:02 No one else is arguing with you. He's getting on this show. No one's literally made yourself mad. That is the old polish argument That's classic Yeah, you did that Well, what's interesting outside of the goofy realm is the allegation that in 1996 The brazilian military captured two living aliens in what is known as the varghina ufo incident Whoa The story is that i'm one rainy night two young women in the town of varghina Found aliens squatting in a vacant lot obviously lost and scared
Starting point is 01:25:37 They were humanoid appeared to be three feet tall at their bouts and were hairless with big triangular heads red eyes long arms and short legs Yeah It's like he had a little pot belly He's like oh my god. He's like that was it macking me? Yeah, yeah, he's all fat But the weird thing was that they both had huge veins in their necks shoulders arms chest and back It's like the kind of veins you might see in a weightlifter Yeah, it's still vassal salon with his like hgh rattled 80 year old. He's looking better than ever
Starting point is 01:26:13 He has got so many veins you could play him like a guitar But apparently didn't he take the robot out of the new uh rocky or something? They got the rope they got rid of the robot. I think yeah, he is retconning the past Like a fascist. I agree. It's crazy. You can't change history But from what sources say the brazilian government handed these aliens over to our government where if this was all real We probably killed and dissected them Yeah, I mean we definitely didn't like make them baseball players I don't know. I guess so. What else do you I mean, honestly, you got to look and see how their penises work
Starting point is 01:26:47 We always you got to keep but you got to keep one alive if you have two I mean that would be amazing. It depends on whether or not he's funny. Yeah However, there is speculation that the quote-unquote alien that the girl saw was actually a local mentally unstable homeless man Uh nicknamed moudinho So named because he was usually covered in mud for one reason or another He could have been coming from the spa I don't know. Some people spend hundreds of dollars to be covered with fancy mud You never know why people are covered in mud
Starting point is 01:27:16 But in the beginning of the cholera slot just to step back It was interesting to see the one of the original theories Was that when people were seeing these ships with spotlights taking our blood One of the first instincts was that they thought it was us technology coming to terrorize them Well, that is just a testament to how we have spread fear across the globe It's like our major export In the late 70s the america did not have america did not have the best reputation in south america As opposed to the 80s. It got even better in the 80s. Yeah, we love us. Of course. They just fucking love us now
Starting point is 01:27:51 Yeah, of course. That's great And ufo sightings are still happening even today in brazil Just a few months ago in may thousands of people in the municipality of maje just north of rio de gianero Saw and filmed multiple glowing lights in the sky something magical about brazil is i would love to go see Any one of these ufo hotspots, but we cover this on side stories And it's another one of those where a it sound like a very physical thing Crashed into the ground and there seemed to be a pretty extensive Research into like they went and they then there was a big ol investigation
Starting point is 01:28:28 And the brazilian government those being more hesitant this time to say what it was Which actually in my mind points more towards is there some sort of like technology that crashed Like is there a blackhawk down thing going on in the middle of brazil right now? Yeah, and with all the you know camera phone footage that we see it's like every single ufo sighting caught on a camera phone It's difficult to say exactly what the lights are But no matter what the maje sightings were we still have no idea What happened way back when and the mystery of what went down in brazil in the 70s and 90s will most likely remain a mystery forever
Starting point is 01:29:07 The dangerous ufo's of brazil No, that was cool Usually we have much more peaceful interactions or different interactions with the ufo But these are very intriguing indeed. I wonder why they got so aggressive down there You honestly feel like I mean maybe they got some of that nazi runoff energy Well, isn't that fun the way you continue to make those jokes? I didn't say anything to you. No, no, no, not at all No, you absolutely did not no that was a south that that was a nazi
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