Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 461: USS Indianapolis

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

This week, we're bringing you the incredible story of the worst sea disaster to ever occur in the history of the United States Navy — the sinking of the USS Indianapolis.Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started Listen guys listen Let's say they make a new USS Indianapolis film. Oh, you know who I want that movie who number one Zoe douche Some kind of skinny Zoe douche is Zoe douche be one of those nurses. I Don't know why they always have those in World War two movies where it's always a nurse

Well, a lot of people are sick and dying Zoe douche goes into the water And I want one of the sharks to be played by number two. Guess what who Josh? Gad Wow, you are I'm just me taking myself out of the running. That's incredibly giving a part That's me giving back to Hollywood. Wow your heart has grown two sizes today showing love to Josh Josh Gad playing the single the shark. Let's say there's like Zoe douche is in the water And she was one soldier do she was sweet on right, but she was kind of an asshole like on the boat when they're out Right, and it's he's into like I don't need you side ditch because you can't change your name for films But you can't recognize other names. Oh, oh, I'm so sorry Henry. This is my elevator stop

Okay Security escort him out welcome to last podcast on the left everyone I am Ben with Henry and Marcus today's episode. I'm scared of being underwater. I'm scared of close spaces I'm scared of sharks, and I'm scared of kamikaze pilots, so I'm gonna be scared this whole episode to steal a line from Marcus Park You'll never go to the beach again Wow I'll never go in the water again. Yeah, yeah, you'll never go into the water again I thought you were gonna be mean, but that's how he sounds

And I'm very mad that I can't read Today's topic so cool to be covering this Nicholas Cage was a star in a film about the very topic We're gonna discuss the last night. It is so awesome Yes, USS Indianapolis. That is what we're discussing today. The USS Indianapolis So the sinking of the USS Indianapolis was the worst sea disaster to ever occur in the history of the United States Navy Ever since they stopped singing that song Which one the village people in the Navy in the Navy over the course of four

Harrowing days following a Japanese torpedo attack on July 30th, 1945 and the waning days of World War two 890 men went into the shark infested waters of the Pacific Ocean, but only 316 came out alive. Okay. Can we get it out right now before we continue? You get three I don't know references a lot. You think you're okay. So you get two? I'm just gonna do this one because I honestly I was gonna give it to you Marcus I think I should say it properly at the very top so that we we all know what we're talking about here You know what? I've already got I've already got a moment set out for me personally where I'm gonna do it I'm not gonna tell you when it is, but I've got a moment. I don't know what you guys are talking about

I guess I'll just do it. I'll take this one sir. You don't give me a moment. I take my moment Alright, do you want to do it? Yeah, of course. Okay. Do it. Um 890 men in the shark and visited water We'll need to be into 16 It came out of the brink That's what you wanted to do. Yeah. All right. There we go. Let's move on And while the USS Indianapolis is often put forth as a shining Impeccable example of courage in the face of impossible odds the real story like many events involving America and World War two is

Far darker than what the whitewashed histories would lead us to believe Imagine if the Donner party. Oh took all of the events of the Donner party took place over three and a half days on Raf's made out of lifesavers. That sounds like an absolute nightmare. Also when you say lifesavers I do think of the treat. Mm-hmm sweet candy. All right, cool But that's not to say that there were no men who behaved courageously over those four days in the water Some did and the efforts of those men saved the lives of others But the men who lost their minds in the waters of the Pacific over those four days and gave in to their baser instincts They helped to create a scenario. That's actually far more horrific than what Captain Quint's speech in Jaws

Implies now, you know, I'm fine if you lose your mind. Sure, but four days You're gonna lose your mind over a long weekend buddy. It takes two weeks before I'll allow you to kind of lose your mind If you look at me like I'm a ham-hawk after 24 hours I would have been like 48 hours ago. You must have been thinking the same thing These guys knew that no one was coming for them that there was not it. They were on a covert mission No, when nobody knew where the hell they were they assumed that once they went into the water No one was gonna get them out. So after three days, you're sitting there wondering how long can I float? How long can I keep this boner going? Oh my goodness

But before we get into the story, our main source today is Indianapolis The true story of the worst sea disaster in US naval history by Lynn Vincent and Saravlottic. Well, it is quite long like most World War two books are it's still well written and gives complete context to the disaster itself There's also the US Indianapolis Documentary that is pretty great that it's like a PBS one. That's a big one and then I watch it It's narrated by Kyle Chandler. It everybody's favorite Isn't that nice. The only white man in America everyone can still agree on. Day of the Comic-Cos he's also fucking dope And there was there's a lot of footage on this and then you know, just straight up fucking that movie the US Indianapolis

movie the USS Indianapolis it has a lot of It has a lot of like factorial like there is like facts in it What part? It's hard man because they always set it up they always do the thing at the very beginning where you have to like, you know, like Johnny's trying to see his best girl, but Billy he's been talking to his girl on the side like all this kind of bullshit And then they're all fucking eaten by sharks. It's called setting up the story So without further ado, let's get into the sinking of the USS Indianapolis and the four Heroine days that followed

Built in 1930 the USS Indianapolis was the flagship of the fifth fleet in the Pacific theater of World War two Focused solely on the war with Japan as opposed to the European Axis powers The Indy was the length of two football fields. It had three 250 ton turrets with three eight-inch guns on each one and it was a veteran of ten naval battles Including the Battle of Tarawa, the Battle of Tinian, the Battle of the Philippine Sea, the landing at Iwo Jima and the beginnings of the invasion of Okinawa Should have got a smaller boat. I guess so. That's a massive boat But kind of funny if you think about throwing the football around having a good time slapping butts with the boys But if you eat a place of six, you know how important naval warfare

Not it is still second to air warfare because of the coverage you can get but naval welfare naval warfare is incredibly important because you Absolutely, they can shoot their weapons 17 miles away from shore So you park them out and then they just bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb from the outside and then people like my dad Roll torpedoes around the basement of it and laugh and fun and just drink beers all day. Absolutely hammered Absolutely, the Navy is so powerful. You don't see it out of sight out of mind, but it's all around it They got a bunch of missiles aimed at our enemies and friends Yeah, we do it to both Now the India escaped serious damage in its first nine major battles

But during the advance offensive in the lead-up to the Okinawan invasion The USS Indianapolis received a dire wound from a Japanese kamikaze pilot Now America was at this point in the last year of our war with Japan Meaning that many of the best Japanese fighter pilots were long dead and replaced with teenagers with limited skills And some of those teenagers were the kamikaze pilots of lore They went around so all of the pilot schools and they got the top cadets They said did they get the top cadets or the worst cadets? Well, eventually the top cadets are taken and eventually it's just cadets and then it's middle cadets and then it's lower cadets

But mostly the very beginning of the push for kamikaze pilots It was true because they had run out of all of these experienced guys. They were all dead They were just going for whoever was the hot-shot and whoever they could basically persuade to believe That they were doing this for the love of the Empire. I missed this scene of Top Gun All they did was just try not to kiss each other. I know they were horned up Now the myth of the kamikaze pilot is that they effectively used their planes as missiles and while that's partly true It doesn't tell the whole story because just flying a small fighter plane into a battleship It doesn't really damage it in any meaningful way

My research this time really showed me that that was an interesting part of it Is that you can fly a normal plane into a battleship and you can fix it You can fix the battleship and you can actually continue fighting that day So they had to develop new technology to make just flying planes into shit that much more dangerous A little flex seal will fix a lot of stuff. We learned this when the New York Yankees pitcher I believe drew flew his plane into a building only two people died It's pretty great. Yeah, if he was trying to do it, he probably would have caused more damage. Yes, maybe I don't think the building Matt

I don't think intent really matters when two colossal things combine with each other I don't know what it's like when you decide stores Well, like if you think of like a 9-11 if like the terrorists were like what if we don't really do it that hard But like if you drive a plane into a building like I don't think a motion matters Yeah, it's just gonna happen science. That's science. You're saying they let God take the wheel Well, many of the kamikaze pilots were flying straight into heavy gunfire so they could survive Just long enough to drop a payload on their targets Okay, and that's exactly what happened to the USS in the Annapolis

Oh, well, there was two types right because you did eventually have what they called the I believe that they was like called the flowering chrysanthemum, which is they would have a bomber plane with a smaller plane that was lined with Explosives that a little guy would sit inside like you have one pilot inside of it And his job was they the the bomber plane we get close and then drop the super heavy bomb Built plane to crash directly into shit some of the planes were giant were designed to get close and just squirt Missiles at them right and just try to get as close as possible, but a lot of times they were good starting to build things That were specifically made to crash into shit They also would fly in at the angle of the Sun

So like you'd be trying to look for them and you can't see anything you're looking directly into the Sun all of a sudden They drop out of the the line of the sunlight you could see them and sometimes you only had like 30 seconds before they collided with you I Thinking of you Bessie indeed absolutely horrifying being tall is very difficult, and I think a lot of people But in this case very nice not to be Able to fit in a submarine or one of these airplanes the tall people did survive the kamikaze attack They also scream his that's who as they landed which meant sink without fail. Yeah, sing certain kill. Oh While the USS Indianapolis was shelling the island of Okinawa a Japanese pilot managed to maneuver through a

Maelstrom of artillery and gunfire to drop a bomb right on the deck of the ship Before he himself crashed into the sea and died. Oh my god. He took a military dump right on that ship That's what they do The 500 pound bomb crashed through deck after deck before it finally exploded deep inside the ship Sending a geyser of seawater and fuel oil spouting a hundred feet into the air The ship however held strong and didn't sink although nine men were killed Now contrary to popular belief there were many men in the Japanese military who were against Kamikaze tactics both because of the obvious moral implications

Yeah, and because of the loss of resources and money that came from sacrificing plane after plane after plane It took like one crazy guy to pitch it He like there was one of the the field of generals he pitched doing this like this movement This idea was called the special attack unit that we would go we would because at this point What's hard about the propaganda machine that they were also within was how deep did the officers themselves also believe the propaganda machine? So one side was a bunch of people saying we'll win it no matter the cost We'll do it because we're the we're the Empire of the Sun will rise again and again and again But then there are other people who are looking at the data and saying like we're losing hard

Yeah, it does not seem like an effective way to to fight a war Well the people that were for Kamikaze pilots they believe that if just 30% of those pilots succeeded Then it would all be worth it I think it's also safe to say the people that were for Kamikaze pilots were never Kamikaze pilots No, absolutely not and so and so 3800 Japanese pilots plunged to their doom during the last days World War two killing 7,000 American servicemen and the Kamikaze pilots themselves were not that thrilled either So it must have been horrifying there were some true believers

But a lot of them were forced and a lot of times when they were forced to sign up They would have to they would have this sheet where they would have to sign up to volunteer and one column was eager and one Column was very eager They all seems like a PlayStation review where it's like did you like it? Did you love it? Did you love it? Love it just tell us and they also would beat them into submission They would break them down and beat them and this was it there's obviously very scary and then certain things they would do They would purposely overload planes according to one witness that they had went and they had overloaded a plane to basically show like Look how happy everybody is to be inside and go kill themselves. They love it. Meanwhile. They're all like

As they left in some ways we could this is adjacent to a death cult, isn't it? Yeah, there was a man one of the leaders of the Kamikaze unit the vice admiral Motomi Ugaki Who actually when they finally realized that the ending had finally come? He committed suicide but Kamikaze because he felt it was only honorable so he loaded up He saluted everybody for one last go and then took off But there was no registered boat sinking because there's also a lot of like there's a lot of discrepancies about how Effective the Kamikaze's were sure. Yeah, but what's truly amazing is that Kamikaze tactics weren't just used in the air By sea some Japanese submarines were actually outfitted with piloted Kamikaze torpedo

Why not just use missiles? They wanted you to see how serious they were about winning But that's the things that the Americans didn't know that there were people in these torpedoes They did it because it was efficient and because it was more there It was just that they could get the target they could hit the target more times if there was a guy actually piloting this Kamikaze Torpedo than if they just shot one out of the submarine Okay, known as the kaiten these torpedoes were 60 feet long less than six feet wide and Piloted by one man in a suicide mission of deadly precision

Wow once the pilot boarded the torpedo and closed the hatch. However, there was no escape Oh, man, but before you go you want some gum or something. Oh, yeah, sorry too late. We're gonna have to close this. Yeah, I shouldn't even ask. I'll be back. I can't. Where a kamikaze pilot could turn back if mechanical trouble prevented him from succeeding in his mission No such option was available to the pilot of a kaiten. Oh my gosh It was impossible to redock with the submarine that launched him So if the mission could not be completed for whatever reason the pilot had the choice of either detonating his warhead in the open sea or Sinking to the ocean floor where he would suffocate to death

Basically you're floating in Davy Jones's locker. Oh, this sucks. I guess this just sucks either way, huh? So after the USS Indianapolis suffered a kamikaze pilot attack in the lead-up to the invasion of Okinawa The ship returned to the mayor island shipyard in San Francisco Which we mentioned briefly in our series on Alcatraz penitentiary. Did you know that Alcatraz means pelican? I did not know that. Wow The repairs took months and in the interim history moved along at a rapid pace in Just the last three weeks of April 1945 President Franklin Roosevelt died got a Benito Mussolini the dictator of Italy was publicly executed by his own people

Got finally Adolf Hitler shot himself in the face in his Berlin bunker. That happened in three weeks Wow, wow a lot of It's a lot of people who should be dead dying. Yeah, that's a lot of Roosevelt should have survived. Yeah, yeah, you are me. Are we upset about Roosevelt? We like Roosevelt. We like Roosevelt. Yeah. Yeah, that was Japanese and the Japanese and termic camps were a bad thing But that was bad. Yeah, that was bad. But overall the idea successful. Yeah, I love the chair pretty successful presidency overall Yeah, yeah, there's always a couple of asterisks Apparently, but there was still one more world-changing event in 1945 that the USS Indianapolis would take a direct role

This was the event that perhaps defined the second half of the 20th century The USS Indianapolis was involved in the dropping of the atomic bomb on Japanese soil. Oh See the atomic bomb hadn't even been tested when the USS Indianapolis docked in San Francisco Because Roosevelt had never given the final go-ahead to the team developing the bomb Of course, the team developing the bomb was the Manhattan Project. We are gonna do it a full atomic series Oh, I love I love that a gigantic multi-part full atomic series that goes from fucking Oppenheimer to Nagasaki and beyond Yeah, we're gonna do it. I know it's a comedy, but Dr. Strangelove just rewatched it last week It's just so frickin good my favorite comedy. It's absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, one of my fades right behind apocalypse now

When it comes to my favorite movies, I thought you were gonna call apocalypse now a comedy Show and then we're gonna say actually you need to go to the hospital Well, that's like a film critics version of a comedy, you know what I mean? Like that's the thing what's like what they when they get into it when film critics laugh at things It's like phantom thread where they go to watch it. They're like, hmm I laughed very hard at certain moments. I love Dr. Strangelove. Dr. Strangelove's truly funny. Truly funny But when President Truman who of course succeeded President Roosevelt when he learned that America was in possession of potentially the most powerful weapon in existence

Okay, let me finish not too far off well Truman ordered the immediate deployment of a combat-ready nuclear weapon to drop on Japan And I would also like to know Truman very tiny man A little guy syndrome should never be in in office important men don't need all of this body But while the dropping of the atomic bomb and Hiroshima and Nagasaki had horrific effects beyond just the initial blast It's not like America wasn't already killing Japanese civilians en masse Mm-hmm in April of 1945 our bombing tactics on Japanese soil switched to low-altitude fire bombing that focused on Factories that supplied materials to manufacture military aircraft that meant we were bombing civilian targets in just one fire bombing in downtown Tokyo

approximately 105,000 people were killed in two hours and 45 minutes Destroying a fifth of the city. It was the deadliest air raid in history Surpassing Hiroshima and more than doubling the death toll in Nagasaki, and you never hear about it because it was just regular bombs Regular old run-of-the-mill carpet bombing by one survivor's account a baby was seen to catch fire Oh on a mother's back and the people who worked in the targeted factories were reduced to heaps of charred bones and Specifically this area had been chosen because it was deemed the easiest to burn But that's why we made the atomic bomb so we could stop ourselves from doing these horrible things Marcus

I mean also whoever decided to build all the houses out of matches needs to be fired horrible construction company But after this massive war crime was deemed a success on all fronts We increased the practice to 60 more cities Killing what is conservatively placed at three hundred thousand three hundred and thirty-three Japanese civilians although some estimates place the number far higher, and that's why we went stop it Oh my hand stop it everyone a little slap on the wrist indeed Harry Truman's like make a bigger one We just didn't drop it We do one big one

There's nothing scarier than a little guy trying to be tough Yeah, very awful and horrified and I would assume that the estimate is low because I'm sure we killed more than that But for reasons that will go into fall when we cover the atomic bomb President Truman decided that the firebombing of Japanese cities wasn't doing the trick So he ordered the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. I know you've been saying making this mushroom cloud But what is it but mushrooms? That's France. That's France. What if it blows up to some kind of eagle some big old eagle? Firework you want that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I can't wait for that when we cover the nukes because there is the large Contingency of people who think that stopped the war and save lives. I don't know if it's cuz killing massive people

The war is really it was not necessary We have no choice but to roll into the neighborhoods of Tokyo. We have no choice We have no choice. We have no choice. We have to go. So that's what they did They pinned one against the other where they said like yeah, we'll either roll in with 1300 Battleships and our entire army that now is done with Europe. We'll all just come over to the Japanese fleet We'll come we'll tack the other side of the world It's we'll get into it. I think the idea that the atomic bomb like saved millions of American lives from dying on Japanese soil as a complete and total PR campaigns that was put forth by the American government

It's a part of the PR campaign when it started coming when stories of the atomic plague started coming out from Hiroshima But anyway, we will get to that in the series great but since constructing an atomic bomb in full at Los Alamos and Transporting it across America to its eventual destination in the Pacific was deemed a dumb idea for many reasons Hear me out dude Domino's they see 30 minutes or it's free, bro. What if we do that with nukes? Yeah, dude This atomic bomb belongs in the back of a Nissan centrum of a 19-year-old it does Since that was a dumb idea the parts were transported separately to the Tinian Islands where the atomic bomb

Nicknamed little boy would be constructed. He's he's he can read how bad a little boy be pretty bad Yeah, little boy was the one that was dropped on Hiroshima Of course the one that was dropped on Nagasaki that was fat man Yes, which I thought was a little insensitive towards the missile I'm just waiting for the fucking photoshop's for when we do the serious And since the USS Indianapolis was a fast ship with a battle-hardened crew that coincidentally Happened to be docked in San Francisco. It was chosen to transport the enriched uranium used in the bomb across the ocean Amazingly not even the captain knew what their cargo was and they departed just hours after America

Detonated the first atomic bomb in history at the Trinity site in New Mexico. That really has to be I mean Overwhelming obviously you're the captain of like one of the most prestigious ships in all of the US Navy They show up to you essentially the night before and they say what we're gonna do is we're using your ship as a courier And then they took the uranium and they they attached they welded it to the boat And then they took the crate of all the bomb parts and they put in there like two guys know what this is You don't even know what this is tomorrow You guys are shipping out and taking this as fast as humanly possible across the Pacific Ocean You're not supposed to ask what the fuck's in these boxes. Also if this ship stinks

The first thing that gets out of this ship are these two boxes. Nothing else matters. Mm-hmm. What is in the box indeed? What's in the box? What if it was just when the culture is that well that would have caused equal devastation, I think The problem here was that the speed of the USS Indianapolis came with some potentially fatal trade-offs Since the Indy was maximized for speed range and firepower It had armor so thin that it was among the ships that were designated as Tinclad as opposed to ironclad. Oh, no. Yeah, you didn't even unlock iron for that, huh? This meant that it was highly vulnerable to Japanese torpedoes which were designed to crack stronger ships in two and

The construction of the ship itself prioritized ease of movement over durability This almost ensured that any crack would quickly fill the ship with seawater and sink the vessel It was actually just kind of luck that the USS Indianapolis had survived for as long as it had because remember it was built in 1930 and a lot of the newer ships were built to withstand these torpedoes and were built with the Japanese military in mind But you know the old adage is that every mill the beginning of every war is a failure because the they're essentially fighting the last war Right the USS Indy had a sort of reputation of being like one of the best of the best Well, it seems to me a lot. You must give human characteristics to it. It seems well

It's cuz it's about the captains of the ship I think quite a bit in the crew so it's so like they used it effectively and they ended up like kind of I guess how Let me this is my sports. Yeah, like they get the sports the best sportsmen all arrive on the same teams Sometimes because it seems to be kind of sport the there is La Crosse just dude just say like 90s cowboys. Just say 90s cowboys say 1995 cowboys Oh, you're talking about I think you're talking about men No, just the 90 or 1996 the 1996 Dallas Cowboys. Sure say that damn And what do they do? Oh, they spend money and they get big jewels

You gotta fight for that inch How I got here. That's that's actually good fight for every inch And of course shortly after the USS Indianapolis dropped off the uranium for the world's first offensive atomic bomb That's exactly what happened Now considering how vulnerable the Indy was an escort destroyer ship on the way to its next destination Probably would have been a good idea But the captain of the USS Indianapolis Charles B. McVeigh the third was told that there was no Japanese submarines between him and the Indy's next destination in the Philippines

So nobody including higher-ranking naval commanders saw any need for an escort You can need to get an escort life is always better with an escort Well unbeknownst to Captain McVeigh though, there were in fact four Japanese submarines between him and his destination But this fact known to certain intelligence bureaus was buried under a sea of information See the allies had long since broken the encrypted access military codes and they were churning out two million pages of Intelligence per week from Japanese communications alone Problem here though is that the allies didn't want to tip their hand as far as how much they knew So the intelligence they gathered was handed out very carefully

Was there also some I this is where I actually have a little bit of confusion Was there not some hesitancy to give them an escort because the mission was so secret the mission was over Oh by the time but when they went there like they that was the big risk They had it without an escort. Yeah, the island. Yeah, but they after Tinian though this all of this happened after Tinian Yes, I know that the top secret mission is over at this point. Yeah, yeah, they got the uranium Yeah Hiroshima happens we yeah And so literally they're like in their minds, maybe they're a little relaxed They're like we did it we dropped off our payload. Let's just go chill out and everything will be fine

Yeah, I mean, they don't know what they dropped there what they dropped off They don't know what happened all they know is that they had a mission they completed it And now they're on the way to the Philippines for their next mission Okay, I think it was I think the next thing they had to do was like gunnery practice like not nothing Extremely there wasn't that they were the top secret shit was over Okay, we're supposed to be running tests, which is the part of the reason why they weren't discovered Well as such the USS Indianapolis went out solo into the lonely shark infested waters of the Pacific Ocean No around the same time

No, it around the same time that the Indy was delivering the uranium to the Tinian Islands a Japanese submarine commander named Mochitsura Hashimoto was given orders to move into the sea west of Guam to find an enemy to attack So on the evening of July 29th 1945 Hashimoto submarine designated I-58 spotted the USS Indianapolis through its night periscope Making this the first real opportunity Hashimoto had in his four years as commander to sink an American ship How exciting for him? I guess so also is the night periscope. Is that just in lingerie and like when you look through it? It's kind of sexy. Oh The name of the bar that we open the night

Right by Dapers Right next to Gapers Now when it comes to what Captain McVeigh could have done to prevent the sinking of his ship the word that comes up again and again is Zigzag got a zigzag See in waters where submarines are known to look ships like the Indy are supposed to take a zigzag course to avoid submarine torpedoes Okay, but since Captain McVeigh was Explicitly told that there were no submarines in the area. He was not zigzagging nor should he have been by naval standards Nevertheless, it would later be on this point that the entire

Fire USS Indianapolis disaster would be blamed on Captain McVeigh So you're telling me if I went back in time all I would have to do is tell the captain to zigzag to avoid this whole thing But that no it wouldn't matter at all because what's truly tragic is that even if Captain McVeigh was zigzagging It still wouldn't matter okay upon spotting the Indy alone out in the sea Commander Hashimoto decided to fire a fan of six torpedoes to ensure that at least one of them hit that completely negated The zigzag method When it comes down to it no US Navy commanders trained as a zig no, it's impossible to do I never actually hurt someone doing it because the first thing you have to do is suck a dick

I think you have to zigzag backwards if you zigzag I mean honestly I mean sure and I don't know why you would have to suck a dick at any time because technically it's illegal to be gay in the military at The time so you'd have to do the opposite of what's illegal at the time, but actually was probably very prevalent Yeah, there was a lot of men inside of each other. Yeah And I mean inside like the idea that people weren't getting it on yeah, everybody I would I mean I would We're here we're delivering this uranium. Maybe I'm the only guy who knows suck me dick I would find a twink on there, and I would cuddle we would cuddle consensually together so scary You said the term find a twink on the boat like the idea

Looking for you decided that I'd love to know there's not a lot on the boat. I'm too big. I see the boys over there Okay, I Can I be thanks for my service, please Even if the fan technique didn't work I 58 also had plenty of kamikaze Torpedoes that fucker was going down no matter what But as it happened the kaiten weren't necessary at 12 15 a.m. Hashimoto's torpedo detonated on the indie starboard bow killing dozens of men instantly and opening the front of the ship to seawater And also like how we talked about how in certain episodes of the Black Death series that it's nothing but screaming

Yeah, know that this is nothing but screaming from here on out everyone is screaming from this point forward Yeah, cuz they gotta go dog them down. Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to think would you rather scream in space or scream under water? No one's hearing you either way But this is one of my being in a space shuttles my number one nightmare stuck in open water is my number two nightmare I think I'm gonna have to reverse that I think I would rather float up in the air than being under the water water So scary cuz there's no there's no air sharks That we know of those are drones. Yes, that is true. Those are drones now concerning the power of these torpedoes The type 95 used by the Japanese was designed to mortally wound battleships

The first blast would buckle the ship's skin while the second warhead was meant to punch a hole in the ship itself breaking it in half Now soon after the initial torpedo a second torpedo followed This one ignited the aviation fuel stores which severely burned Anyone below deck in the forward part of the ship in addition to creating a gigantic oil slick on the ocean surface So this was mr. Bean and he was sliding around the oil on fire. Technically would be funny, but it's our boys I think technically it would not be funny I

Would make it funny sell it. He'd make it through an Atkinson row in Atkinson is truly unbelievable because if you see him in real life He's quite handsome, but mr. Bean isn't so handsome, but you're like, how do you do that? That's My image was just the young zitty kid who should just be in high school probably just like Getting drafted going to do this thing for the country and then all of a sudden I'm burning alive in the middle of the ocean, you know, I'm out of teenagers on the ship Oh, God, I heard a little gum wrapper. Tell me war is hell It's a weird Laffy Taffy you think

Well seawater then came rushing in drowning anyone caught in its path Oh, and also people became trapped in these because as Henry said doggen They had to try to close some of these chambers So that they tried to close some of the decks to prevent the ship from sinking So, you know, you had the old scene of a guy banging on the door. Let me let me out Just rises above No, no, he's Frickin brutal. Yeah, but once the torpedoes had done their job the chaos set in as men dashed to their battle stations

Unaware that the fight was already lost. They ran past fellow servicemen with melted flesh dripping from their faces and bones jutting through their skin Am I gonna make it back home? Oh my God. Have we won the war? Yes, yes, Billy. We won. The war is over. You're at home now. Die. Die. Die. Just die now Well, they said in that those initial moments like this the immediate screaming was Horrifying, but at least in those initial moments that screaming died within a couple of minutes because all of those guys died as well And everyone else is just trying to save the ship sounds like the bad guy from Robocop

Who just melts and gets hit by the car and explodes. Yeah Now Captain McVeigh believed in the immediate moment after the torpedo attacks that he could control the damage and save the ship Because after all the USS Indianapolis had survived some pretty heavy blasts already But since all communications went down immediately after the initial blast Captain McVeigh had no idea how bad the damage in the engine room actually was To put it into perspective when the second torpedo hit a colossal steam leak Flashboiled any men who are unlucky enough to be in that section Flashdance flashboiled

That was such a great one the way they dance and the temperature slowly rises and they all turn into dumplings Yeah for one nipple. That was such a powerful conclusion The one nipple that stays on the stage And since all communications were down there was also No way to send out a direct message telling any other ships what had happened where they were or that they needed Immediate rescue. Oh my god. Yeah, they could have they could have used an SOS like the great song that the police made Well, they actually did send out like a general SOS. Okay, but No one picked it up. Nobody cared. Well, no, just no one was around to hear it

No one's around to catch it. It was just a general SOS of like we don't know where we are We don't know what happened SOS SOS SOS like cuz they didn't have time to they didn't have time to give actual coordinates or anything It's just SOS SOS SOS and the vague hope that someone would catch it and nobody did right So within seven minutes of the initial strike a commander arrived on the bridge from the engine room to tell McVeigh that the situation was hopeless The order to abandon ship was given but again since all communications were down the order had to be passed man to man I've given it all she's got captain You know if you ever play the game of telephone the miscommunication that occurs I'm sure one guy just by the time it got to him. He's just like what was that go to bed. It's taco Tuesday

It's taco Tuesday. That's what you want to tell me but blambin BIP. No The survivors began cutting down live preservers as the ship listed and sank further into the ocean And they soon started hopping over the side into the open sea But while the engine room was damaged beyond hope the propellers of the USS Indianapolis We're still pushing the ship forward Oh, no That meant that when all was said and done the men who had jumped from the sinking ship were strong along a path of two miles in clumps of survivors

Some were lucky enough to escape with rafts and some were able to grab life jackets But many were simply left to swim Others however chose to end it quickly One machinist said that he saw two stewards leap over the back of the ship right into the twirling propellers Which instantly ripped both men to shreds Private Sanderson, do you remember when I taught you how to zag zig? Yeah. Yes. I'll always remember other private Thompson Let's go, baby. Oh, let's go hand-in-hand, baby I don't know if it was that romantic. No, these were only two of the approximately

300 men who died before the USS Indianapolis even went underwater As the tail of the Indy finally sank into the sea the suction pulled even more men down to a watery grave and the surviving 890 were left to float in the waters 12 Minutes after the first torpedo struck the ship. What a difference 15 minutes can make I'll tell you what if I was in there. I'd be like, hey, I didn't have this in my 1945 bingo card. You are unbelievably talented Toss-up question not not of these survivors. Let's say you have to die

Within the first 12 minutes. How do you want to go? I'm thinking I almost just want to have the initial blast Just right because everything else seems scarier You want to be right on the other side of the hull from the initial torpedo blast because then you just takes you out Yeah, you're just gone. They had the explosion the pressure of the explosion Just I mean shred your body and then you're done. You're just even the flash boiled is at least fast That's a flash boil versus a slow poach. Yeah, that's fine. It's but honestly, I'd like to live Well, I can go on the speaking tours. Of course, of course In the immediate aftermath of the sinking that

890 survivors found themselves to be in a sea Covered in the fuel oil that had gushed from the Indy as it sank all in a midnight darkness That only increased their fear Furthermore the survivors knew that sharks swam in these waters Oh my god, and those sharks belong to Exxon mobile. Honestly, they want their oil back They wish they were as evil as those sharks real sharks are fairly neutral But they're hungry and I tell you what there was more white tips in that ocean than there is on all of the heads of less than Jake Very good less than Jake reference

Now nobody escaped from the Indy completely unscathed, but some men were worse off than others One crewman said that he found a close friend covered in flash burns that were so bad It looked as if his face was melting off. Tell me. Tell me. Do you see anything weird? No, Bob everything looks There's something is my mascara running away, sorry. It's actually trying to keep screaming and saying I remind them of a ghost Yeah, it's just so funny the way that they're don't look in the mirror I'm actually gonna do the opposite. I'm actually gonna go zigzag Right zigzag bud

Well according to the survivor his friend screamed in agony for an hour as oil and salt water filled his wounds before he finally and Mercifully died. I can't think of a worse Tub to be in Then salt water and oil you're covered in burns This also is a group of people that have immediately turned into the the Game over man like guy immediately been like we're fuck man Yeah, now the crew of the Japanese submarine was thrilled that they'd finally sunk a ship and many of them wanted to go and finish

What they'd started commander Hashimoto, however, wouldn't allow it. He said they'd already done their job Okay, the submarine then sped away leaving the men of the USS Indianapolis to four days of horror in the water This is fucking honestly does scare me man Now once the submarine left the men took stock of their situation and found that they were clumped together in groups over a Two-mile long oil slick so far apart that many groups believed they were the only survivors But even the groups that were closer together were only close for the first night as the days stretched on the groups drifted Further apart and by the first dawn the survivors had already drifted five miles from the site of the sinking Rodney, I just feel like I don't even know you anymore

I just feel like we're drifting apart literally It's an emotional distancing we're having those however were the smaller groups out of the 890 initial survivors there was one large group that made up almost half of the men some with life jackets and Some just treading water trying to survive as long as they could you're just Like dog paddling that's me. Yeah, I'm just dog so sitting there You try it you can't even really like because also you're covered in oil right covered in like covered in oil and

These life preservers are only built to last for two days in the water Well, as we know from the wonderful oil spills that happen on a regular basis Specifically we can go to 19. What was it 1991 there? We had that little that little oil spill in the Gulf Exxon spill I think that was 89 maybe 89 either way if oil likes to float Yeah, yeah, did it help at all? Yeah People above water we went to Italy. Do you remember how the boats sit on top of the water just because of the sheer she No, my hair product just like On the Mediterranean. I know everyone is like I want to be in Amsterdam

I want to be in the canal and then you get there and you're like that's the toilet Which is true, but it's beautiful though. I love it. I'm not gonna diss it One thing the oil actually did is that it worked as a kind of light sunscreen So the men who they weren't they did come out of the water the survivors did come out of the water like horribly burned But not as burned as they could have been great Hey, thank you. Thank you black gold But as it goes with military operations officers took charge and life jackets were tied to lines So the unvested could hold on okay

What few life rafts existed were mostly reserved for the most severely injured Although some life rafts sank when too many men tried climbing on. Oh my god, you know big fat Tom. Can you remember for me actually I shouldn't really go on there Can you not please? When I was on the deck, I twisted my ankle. Oh my dude. I'm really gonna need to get on this graph. Can you get off? No, okay the officers then told the men to resist the urge to vomit up the ungodly amounts of seawater and oil that they'd already swallowed Because they had no idea when they would be rescued and the preservation of fluids was priority number one Wow One interesting observation made by one of the survivors though is that for the most part the men who lived to tell the tale were the younger ones

That wasn't because they were stronger But rather because they didn't know enough to know just how fucked they were Because they still had optimism. This is what it seemed like is that the scariest part was especially the night Yeah, is that when the first night came? It's like I was listening to some of these survivors like talk and it is harrowing and just like you know one guy's like in the not You don't know what happened. I was next to uncle Ed. I called him uncle Ed He was only two years older than me, but I called him uncle Ed. He was my friend and in the night He was gone and then there was candidate Joe

Oh, he was from Detroit. Oh, and I said hey candidate Joe. Hey, where are you? Where are you? Where are you? And he was gone It's very scary. Yeah So by morning the survivors had drifted 10 miles from the sinking site in three main groups and even more smaller ones and each of these Groups was commanded by officers and the men commanding the largest groups were Glenn Morgan Felton Outland and Richard Redmayne. Are these all just born to be commanders in the US Navy? Do you just get a certain last name and then you're made to be an officer? Yeah, yeah Richard Redmayne is like one of the best World War two names Glenn Morgan, Captain Glenn Morgan Captain Glenn Morgan. Captain Glenn Morgan sometimes is a suck dick, but only in Italy. Whoa

Good morning to you Now as I said some groups had life rafts, but others only had jackets One group made up only of jacketed survivors lost a third of their men by the first morning and soon found themselves surrounded by a school of Floating corpses that refused to go away Well, it's because they also they they were tied to them sometimes, right? And then they would just float and float and float they a lot of they died of a dehydration. They died of Shock they died of from their injuries. So they started building up, especially in that first day

But then it just seems like having a bunch of just sort of like Meat around would be bad. Yeah As far as Captain McVeigh went he was relatively lucky His group was only nine men strong and they managed to escape with a life-draft a sheet of canvas to gather rainwater Somorphine a bit of brackish water and enough emergency rations to last 10 days I got a film projector. I got a torpedo. I actually have a full toilet seat Yes, so we can actually enjoy that and also I saved this bag of croutons. Isn't that fantastic? Yeah, they're in a carnival cruise compared to what other people are going through. Yeah, as far as the men in the water went

They very quickly began spotting the shadowy forms of sharks swimming below Now this area of the ocean was home to six species of shark But the most likely culprit here was the oceanic white tip what you might call shark classic When you imagine a shark, this is what you imagine long dorsal fin Very aggressive. Yeah Called the yogore by the Japanese in an assemblage of kanji characters that convey the words Pollute defile and rape the white tip is the worst First possible shark to show up in this situation sometimes you don't get the shark you wish for you get the shark that shows up

I guess so yeah, cuz you want the titty and money in Shark to show up. I don't think there is a shark like that. I mean not yet, but yeah Science will prevail the hammerhead is quite a nice shark the hammerhead is there. It's a very nice shark There's actually very nice sharks out there, but the the white tip is not one that you want to fuck with really We're not saying that the white tips the evil I think because we're gonna have to dial back some of the talk about sharks being like killing machines Which is why they're over fish and all that shit, but honestly when it comes down to it Can you help these sharks can these sharks help it?

Have all these like bleeding screaming pink like because they have to remove all their clothes too. They don't even have clothes in the way They're all just like out there just tread and water It's like if if you left the five cheeseburgers in front of kissles house and expect him not to get kidnapped They mean like if someone never have them and they just scooped them up with a crate. Yeah, you got to get the burgers This is simply nature. This is 890 men entering the food chain and this is what happens Now white tips are usually loners But when a food source is plentiful as it was in the aftermath of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis White tips form groups for the feeding frenzy to come. Oh, they're going out to dinner with friends

Yeah, it is like that and as far as the sharks were concerned They just found a two mile long bucket of chum Besides the burns men had suffered from broken limbs and wide gashes Which all pumped a constant stream of blood into the ocean waters and sharks can smell blood from a quarter mile away So you have a two mile long stretch of men all bleeding And out of those two miles quarter mile in each direction Shark shark shark shark shark shark shark honestly, that's really lucky for those sharks because all I ever smell is blood You're gonna want to get that checked out. It's just I just smell blood

I see blood everywhere. I look looks like it's covered in blood It's a hell of a time to be a shark here And the broken limbs and gashes were the best case scenario injuries At worst you had the fate of officer Stanley Lipsky His eyes appeared to have boiled in their sockets And what was left of his hands were nothing more than charred meat clinging to bones Oh, no, he was at the whole time. He was kind of like the nerd from toxic avenger too Where he was just like the guy that you walk in the lovable nerdy guy who's just like

You guys want to play a game of chess and they're like good at it here was eggzig and And then he goes into the water and he's covered with burns, but he doesn't turn into a superhero, dude No, he turns into screams. He turns into technically in chef's terms. He was charred Yeah, oh my god, they brought out the natural sugars. That's I'm sure it's very good Meanwhile allied code breakers had intercepted a vague message from commander Hashimoto Saying that he'd scored three hits on a ship and sunk it now This was a slight exaggeration and Japanese commanders were known to exaggerate successes to lure American ships on search and rescue missions So hoping that this was just one of those things

The intercepted transmission became just one of the 500 received that day alone But even if they'd made it a priority They didn't have the type of vessel. They didn't have the location. It was impossible to know what exactly happened There was no reason for them to go out and look. You never want your search and rescue team to be like, let's table it We'll circle back. Yeah, let's circle back. We'll circle back and table that Oh gosh But what's most distressing about the sinking of the endy is that when it did not arrive on time to its destination in the Philippines Its name was simply taken off the board, which at the time was navy policy

See, there were thousands of ships in the pacific and reporting the arrival and departure of every single ship had resulted in too much communication So when the endy didn't arrive on time, which by the way, wasn't that unusual anyway? No one noticed. Didn't they have like a week lead time or something? There was like something that was like if it was a week late, they'd know But then if it's like a certain but a week if they had went a week. It's so late. Oh, yeah Yeah, in other words Nobody was coming The badly injured survivors of the uss indianapolis and they were starting to notice the shark swimming below

Yeah, this one survivor kept saying he felt the shark start to nudge his feet because I was watching a bunch of footage of white tips and It's it's like they're cool, right? They're cool when you're out around them If the he did uh his show whatever his show is even at number and it's all be like, can you see the absolute delight That the sharks take in taunting the photographer And so like they you know, they're like going after this photographer who's fucking nuts and these white tips Bump you to see how you react and so there was one survivor talking about how like he was floating and at first

You'd feel them come up and touch your feet and you try to pull your feet up to get away from them But it's like then you just get used to it because you just like fuck it let them touch my feet What are they gonna do? What are they gonna do? You know, honestly, maybe I'll ride it flip it in reverse and pretend you like it But even if someone had noticed that they didn't show up The survivors had already floated 20 miles from the sinking site by the evening of the first day But now by accounts the first group attacked by a shark was Buck Gibson's A shark

Barreled up from below and locked its jaws around the hand of cozell smith dragging him 10 feet below the surface in an instant Oh fucking scary very refusing to let the shark win smith punched it in the nose But still the shark snapped its head back and forth in an attempt to saw off smith's hand with its teeth That's from what I gathered from when I was watching. That's how sharks they they do it They bite in and then they shake their head back and forth like a saw Mm-hmm Finally though smith jabbed his finger into a soft spot on the shark's body and the shark let go But smith's ordeal wasn't over

When he emerged from the water with a bloody shredded hand The men in the gibson group told him to stay away Because they knew enough about sharks to know that blood would only attract more sharks But i'm getting dizzy man need to stay with you, man I can't fucking let me hold on to the lifesaver man So when smith tried rejoining the circle they kicked and clubbed him But since he had so much adrenaline from the shark attack He managed to make it to the middle of a floater net

And that is when another sailor pulled out a knife and attempted to murder kozell smith Damn, dude, dude. This is not even this is just the tip of it, man Realizing that his only chance of survival was to go it alone smith swam about a hundred feet away from the group with no life jacket Kicking his feet to stay afloat until he very quickly sunk and died And you know the whole time he's just like guess i'll just be over here Alone while you guys are all over there. I'm just gonna sit here and what i'm gonna do is Sing a song about floating in the ocean till i die never gonna let you sleep

Wow, he's gonna slowly disappears. Yeah, of course some shark repellent No, but he was shark attractants. Yeah, he was shark attract I mean, I understand the tough decisions that have to be made of course in very difficult times It just sucks. Oh, no, it's a fucked situation. Yeah. Yeah Well in the group led by Richard redmayne a survivor named harpo salias said that the sharks had effectively set up a patrol While harpo closed his eyes waiting for death He said that he heard a scream unlike any he'd heard before Which turned out to be the sound of a man being eaten alive by sharks

So that you do make a sound if you're being eaten alive, huh? Yeah, yeah, and it's not It's not good Man, but they I will say to be fair to the sharks They say a lot of it is you can't really estimate how many people were eaten alive No, but a lot of them were eaten dead And the thing is is that sharks are not exactly asking questions and Filling out customer surveys to see who's alive and who's dead. So they don't really know who's alive and who's dead I actually think they would probably prefer the dead ones

Because it's easier for them to pull it down than they can do the group bunch and then it's gone Where it's like a thing's still kicking and screaming and still difficult to eat. Yeah, I don't know. I think the fresher the better I don't know if sharks care. I don't think they care. I think they would probably I know scientists say that the sharks probably ate more dead men than living men But the fact remains that sharks ate a fuck of a lot of living men Oh, yeah, man, a lot of like a lot of people were dead 500 people When men came out of the water, they were covered in shark bites Sure

So it was not uh, they give little nips Yeah, give little nips to see. Yeah, they get a little chunks to see what kind of meat you are It's nice the water is already salt water because you know the little sharks with little fins They can't be salt bay. They can't sprinkle the the bodies with any kind of um any kind of spice How far away from salt bay are you at all times like in your mind? Do you think of somebody also don't like him because I heard them the meat's not very good No, it's not it's restaurants was panned by critics So I actually don't really care for him, but I do think about the salt bay sometimes you do. I know you do

Yeah Now amidst the chaos there were moments of true courage Some men kept their heads and swam around their groups encouraging assisting and comforting others when they could While others loaned their life jackets to the more exhausted men until they could catch their breath Okay, but there was another side to that While some groups like captain bays got away with plenty of food to survive Others had little more than half a cracker and a single malted milk ball per day Inevitably some men began stealing and hoarding which led to fights and eventually

Murders yeah, this there was one survivor who talked about Floating away because it was very dangerous to float away from the groups because that made you very vulnerable to sharks So he found a crate and inside of it. He found a bunch of rotted potatoes But he knew he had to keep it secret So he'd be like come on come on and they would go and they'd all eat all these rotted potatoes and try to keep it down Inside of them to keep living. Okay Meanwhile, Buck Gibson's horror was only beginning When the sun came up on the second day

He saw the bare bones of a young sailor's leg A shark had eaten it in the night and when he jostled the boy Gibson found that the boy was long dead Although Gibson did keep that body next to him for the entire time They were in the water because he wanted to return the body to the family It was one of those like old world war two promises. There's a lot of those guys He didn't want to have like a weekend at Bernie's with him I wonder how many times I mean, I guess you talked to the corpses probably Oh for I imagine at night the loneliness would set in you talked to anybody who was available

But that was fairly common people were trying to keep the dead bodies as much as they could But the problem is the dead bodies brought the sharks right right Over at McVeigh's group. He began hearing the yelling of men about 1500 yards away So amidst a group of five sharks circling their raft They managed to paddle over so McVeigh could do his duty as a captain But after four and a half hours of arduous paddling McVeigh found that the yelling men were not injured but merely lonely Tell me

Captain captain. I'm so glad you're here. Tell me if you were Gonna be a candy bar. Which candy bar would you be? I'd be a fucking shut. I'd be a I'd be a smack you around because you have any idea how many people are dying out here No, no, no, okay. This is actually so important captain. It's so important. If you met Marilyn Monroe, what would you say? I'm so mad at you right now Well, McVeigh thought I think I'm pretty sure McVeigh believed that he was they were one of the only survivors Like because remember they were so far apart from each other that ship when they were jumping off that ship that fucker was cruising So when he heard the yelling he's like, oh, there's more survivors and it's just goes like, hey, but he's kind of bored

What do you want on your tombstone? Oh my god. I'm having pepperoni. I am so done with you Now the group that you'd think would be doing relatively Okay, was Felton Outland's group because they were a tight cluster of four life rafts But the constant bumping together was creating friction that would eventually destroy the boats And some of the men were already starting to lose it by the second day As Henry because as Henry said they knew they were fucked and they knew no one was coming So in order to both save the life rafts and to distance himself from the increasingly unstable men Outland ordered his group to distance themselves for the time being. Okay. This is all very it is interesting because in a way

it feels like schoolyard tactics too where everybody has to cordon off and go into groups Like everyone has to make sure they're all children I think yeah, there's a very young a lot of them very young Well, I mean when you get to survival mode everything becomes very primitive Right and very childlike so it is it does things like that do happen quite often Yeah, do you remember when we almost ran out of granola bars that one show? St. Paul I'll always remember 2016 we all had a fight over that one last granola bar and I just remember the look in your eyes You're black

Okay, very good. You got your one. That's your one. Don't mess with Marcus's snacks. We actually that is very true I just it's he didn't flip out when we ate the other sneaker. I didn't flip out at all I merely asked did you eat all of the Snickers? Did you eat all of them? How did you guys eat all the Snickers? We have like four of them I'm actually happy that he honestly said that the way that he said it to us I was not complicit in the Snickers thieving. Um, but that was the That was the accusatory. It was over two days And no, it was the first day. No, it was the second day. It was the second day you came and looking for Snickers

This is what happened out there. This is what happened to the crew of the u.s. Indian and u.s. Indian apples Okay Meanwhile Richard leave the Snickers alone. I was there for me to eat. No, just leave one. Just leave one I did leave one and then I ate it Because he didn't get to a fast enough. Good. Well, meanwhile Richard Redmayne leader of one of the largest groups He had himself lost his grip on reality by the second day And he would periodically cry out that he needed to get to the fucking engine room. It's so wet in this engine room Somebody get me to the engine room. There's a term for that though. Isn't there losing your legacy delirium

Yeah, it's it. Yeah, it's full on delirium like the the vivid nature of their hallucinations cannot be understated It's crazy how vivid we'll get to the hallucinations later But it was like full on vivid mirage like not seeing shit that was not there I've said this in more woo wee woo circumstances But the idea of like perception being reality is very interesting and you can really see when you push the mind to its breaking point What it can physically see as a certainty in front of it is wild But you know, it's kind of sad. It's like when you dream that you're like in school and in reality You can dream that you're in space or you can dream that you're a shark

But it would be nice if you didn't just have delirium where it was like, oh, I think I'm at work Sucks You could think of I mean, you know imagine your imagine the man that you're looking at with big old boobs And like imagine him being a woman and then you kiss and kiss and kiss But it some but some guys some guys did that and we'll talk about that later, but it was not it was not good No, it wasn't it was not it was not good. It was very it wasn't zag-zicking zag-zicking is consensual. It was bad. Okay But Richard Redmayne's breakdown was understandable because his men were dying at a rapid pace Half of the 140 men that Redmayne had started with were on rafts, but the rest were on floater nets

By the second day Most of the men on the nets were beginning to sink and die Oh beneath the waves, which the waves were a problem in their own right. Oh my god It's so the waves were 10 to 12 foot swells Constantly rolling up and down up and down hour after hour This caused intense nausea Which was only made worse by the consumption of fuel oil and seawater Not to mention the smell produced by hundreds of floating rotting corpses

And as we said vomiting meant death by dehydration So they were like literally eating their own vomit. Yeah In addition, every group was also forced to periodically hear Maddening screams every time a shark decided to take another man But the group that perhaps had at the hardest was the one led by corporal edgar harrell His men numbering 80 to begin with swam the entire time With no rafts or floater nets to keep them above water That's so hard and you must get so tired too

You must be so tired in the idea of just letting go and just going into the water just becomes that is the welcome Absolutely By the second day half of edgar's men had already died, but their bodies refused to float away Forcing the survivors to exist within a sea of corpses And you wonder why this generation went ahead and gave over nature to the oil companies? Yeah, maybe Now the sharks were certainly the most terrifying way that these men died Over the course of the four days they spent in the ocean

But sharks were not the biggest worry that the survivors had That's how you sell the story the sharks attacks are like why everybody even knows about the uss indianapolis That gets you in the door. Yeah, the worst enemy here was dehydration Yeah, dehydration as an enemy is like if that was like if that was like the end of alzheimer's is the enemy Yeah, like that in-night shamalan movie that's just called old Which looks absolutely horrible, but if it turns out it's just like it was dehydration the whole time This movie sucks. Well, he had the other movie was just about spores. That's true. So it is possible Yeah, and the whole thing with signs is water water water. It is gonna be that it is gonna be dehydration

It is. Yeah. Wow Many of the men were so dehydrated that their tongues swelled and in the delirium and madness that followed Some sailors Irrationally began drinking seawater even though they knew full well that drinking seawater is 100% fatal See when a person doesn't ingest fluids the level of salt in their body increases, which makes them even thirstier Then when still no fluid comes water begins rushing from the body cells to fill the gap Next brain cells tear loose Which greatly impairs your judgment and that is how sailors came to believe that drinking seawater was a good idea

And that's why having a wet-ass pussy means you're healthy. Oh, isn't that nice? Yeah, like a wet nose on a dog That is great. That's nice Well drinking the seawater of course only introduced more salt making them more thirsty Which made them drink more salt water. It's a vicious. It's a vicious ironic cycle Eventually blood vessels would tear and fluid would build up in their brains causing seizures and insanity They finally vomited uncontrollably foamed at the mouth and died of kidney failure amongst other possible deaths One indie survivor was so dehydrated that his eyes bulged from his sockets

Making it impossible for him to close his eyelids and his seawater Splashed and the sun burned his eyeballs. He could do nothing But scream You're gonna want some blue blockers Get him some sunglasses Lord and well, I say he could do nothing but scream. That's if his tongue wasn't so swollen The whole time you're like steve you're being a bummer right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's kind of a bummer situation So I think I'm just calling it like it is. No, you have to say it like steve. Oh

It's hard out there, man. It is hard But there was one guy who talked about the way he saved himself from The glare of the ocean water because he said it was blinding during the day, especially when the sun was high You couldn't see anything because of the the reflection of the sun from the water He would take off his socks and he would just lay them over his face. Yeah all day long And by the third day a smaller group led by a man named hains succumbed to a group hallucination That was both optimistic. Oh and deadly. Okay They convinced themselves that the indie hadn't sunk at all and was in fact

Anchored intact just below the surface of the water SpongeBob What's more is that they also they also started believing there's an underwater hotel down there And you can take your pick ice cream candy bars and coca-cola. They even got a root beer stand down there They got free root beer floats and it's all served by pin-up girls Do it actually come on down here Hey, you're my friend. I got plenty of foods stuff down here and come here and visit my district and visit my police department I mean, that's kind of a fun group thought. Uh, you know as far as the collective unconscious goes kind of a good time there

Well, the problem with this hallucination is that men began swimming underwater to actually look for these things And the men in the group who had kept their heads. They spent hours Chasing down divers lest they drown in their fantastical search And if you know anything about the show alone, you know that that's burnt calories And the more calories you burn when you go down there you're you're expending all of this extra energy To get the dudes back in the pocket as they've left to go crazy. You're just making yourself more and more tired. Sure And this was one of the lucky groups The groups without water some as small as 17 men

Couldn't even talk to each other because their tongues had swollen so much from dehydration Is this kind of like that we get to have these quiet moments? It is a little bit nice Could we only always feel five months with sound? Uh-huh. Yes, thank you. Why don't we just be quiet? What was more is that the life jackets made to last at most two to three days Were beginning to lose their buoyancy now This was bad news to the red main group where a dozen men were attacked by a frenzy of sharks

On the third day all the nearby men could do was cover their ears until the screaming stopped Oh my god Perhaps the oddest reaction that some of the men had in the face of death Was the aggressive sexual advances Again in the red main group which seemed to be lapping against the jaws of hell Survivor harpo salaya said that a sailor lunged at him quote demanding sexual congress in lewd terms You literally take me out to dinner first. Yeah, like literally get me food and we'll give me a fucking fish to eat

All I know is is that of all of the shit you'd think you'd be safe from in the water, right? In this in this situation. Don't forget we are dealing with the navy here Share force. No, we are a pro We have time. We probably have more listeners in the navy than any other Um, but the idea that you're out there and then you're just floating because again, you're all nude I'm just the idea of getting horny in the scenario like I don't know how you get horny Why don't you just jerk off or something? Oh, there's no way you could pull a tube in out there Yeah, I mean demanding sexual congress in lewd terms. It's just a guy lunging at him saying fuck me. Fuck me. Fuck me

Or I fuck you. I fuck you terrifying. Oh my god. Okay, buddy. Hey, you want to play a periscope? I that's how you softly ask sure And at the same time that this guy was aggressively propositioning harpo Several sailors in the same group started attacking each other with fists and knives Spilling blood and attracting even more sharks. Why did they have knives? Why why would they use knives on these on these rescue boats? Oh, it's because you need it seems very dangerous utility knives I mean these are Floating men like that some of the men were floating some of the men were on nets

Some of the men were in inflatable boats. There was a lot of different shit going on and also nobody's thinking straight No, right. Yeah Well, luckily for harpo he managed to escape the group But the book we use for this series does allude to several survivors demanding sexual favors from other men Throughout their four days on the water. I can only describe it as like day three of bonnaroo I guess at that point you do you wonder if you're gonna die out there and you kind of just want one more sexual experience How could you even get hard?

I think it's just a closeness and I'll I think that would probably be what you're craving like a closeness to another human being They really want cuddles. I would imagine feel like intimacy. Yeah, the feel of intimacy. You're gonna do it at knife point Yeah, I mean, that's that's where it's bad. Well, that's where it's made where it should be a band of brothers all sucking each other Yes, so that would be very nice. Sure. Honestly, it would be nice But also this is another point where you they couldn't even untie their fucking once the life Preservers started getting too sogged up. Yeah, their skin was starting to fall apart They were starting to melt within the water and shit So they would try to untie the knots of their life preservers and their skin would just kind of slough off

So they couldn't even handle the cord. Oh my god. Now you're getting me horny Yeah, no everyone loves slough Wow Now when it came to the size of the sharks attacking the men the smaller ones were the most aggressive Those were three to four feet long and they snatched any man who floated away from the group killing him bite by bite This is like being single at the club. Oh my The larger ones. However, we're terrifying in their own way Measuring up to 20 feet long those would swim right up to a group

And specked a victim then instantly devour him before the man even had a chance to scream Not it. Not it. Not it. Yeah, I don't like this guy. Don't this guy. He don't show good. I taste horrible shark Well, because we're also the not we're not the natural food of sharks normally they would Yeah, they would not eat it. Yeah, we don't taste good to any sort of apex predator That's why usually when you die of a shark attack, they take a one bite and they're like, yeah, fuck that But yeah damage is done. You're just so you're just free ass food. Yeah Yeah So by the afternoon of august 1st the men had been in the water for 64 hours

And they were now 60 miles from the sinking site And the furthest distance between the groups on each end of the oil slick was 30 miles By this point the red main group had shrunk from 200 survivors to 40 In that group fatal fights Regularly erupted and rumors were abound of men holding down others to rape them in the life raps Like I said, this is the one like red man's group opened a gate to hell Like there was something horrific there that took a hold of these men that did not take other groups in this manner

Okay, this is also why the story the survivor's group bug Gibson had some pretty fucking awful shit too But that's why this story was uh kind of hidden for years This was a there was a lot of secret shame that went on with the survivors of what happened During the sinking because they were shattered by what they saw of human nature In the water like it really fucked with everybody. Nobody wanted to talk about this shit Yeah Though still in the water we're beginning to sink from a lack of buoyancy and some had exposed Bone where small fish had constantly nipped at their fingers and toes over the previous three days

As far as those fish went and the sharks too for that matter. They actually preferred to feast on corpses Buck Gibson said he would see small colorful fish swarm a corpse before a shark swooped in To tear the dead body in half. It's Nemo I love that part of finding Nemo Afterward the smaller fish would coalesce around the leftover pieces to nibble the flesh from the dismembered bodies And that my friends is when the cannibalism started He did it again! He did it again! He did it again! Oh he did it! That's cool! Wow! That's a titular line. Yeah. Almost. It's bad.

One man in Buck Gibson's group lost his mind to such an extent That he slit the throat of another survivor Just to drink his blood. Oh my and another cut someone else's wrists for the same purpose Open sea vampire. Yeah, but there's so much sun They would be damaged greatly. It's the new ones where they just sparkle. Oh, I don't like that Vampires have to have some flaws. Otherwise. They're just having sex with all of our wives and they're looking good They can't go out in the sun. That's the only they have to have some kind of problem one of the best Reimagining of a vampire story is a new movie. I just called a new movie

I just saw called my your heart beats because I tell it to it's very okay. That's very good. That's that's a good title Well, after only three days at sea Gibson said that between Eating swells that brought the horror in and out of his sight He saw a man in another raft eat one of his fellow servicemen. Oh my gosh Three days three days. Waited. It's just it doesn't seem like that a month without eating It's very scary. Like this is I feel like there is like this guy was gonna eat somebody anyway Some people are just looking for a reason to pop off. I do agree There's also this is so scary. You're free-floating. I also believe that the delusional

The delusional part of this really fuels it, right? It's the dehydration. It's the constant movement. There's no rest So you're exhausted. There's barely any sleep Everybody's falling apart at the seams, but it I mean, you know, you'd like to think we wouldn't immediately eat each other But just that scene of like floating and then each time the other wave crests You see the guy fucking stab a guy in another lifereft and then all people probably staying back Probably trying not to get involved. Well, the nipples can be kind of a pepperoni I suppose if you flip it in your head. Yeah, I might have a nipple. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I guess man through me Yeah, yeah, I fucking guess. Yeah. Well after the cannibalism began the men began making packs with each other

They all agreed at least the ones in the Gibson group They all agreed that any man who became dangerous to the others due to hallucinations or madness would immediately be killed Oh, they're gonna vote him off the island Permanently, yeah, he would be put in a headlock and a knife would be inserted under his armpit into the heart Which was deemed the most humane way of execution that they could manage at least Multiple men were killed in this way But instead of saving more survivors the executioners themselves became warped and deranged Accelerating the madness within their group because they just had to kill their buddy

Like they had to kill the guy that they knew the guy that they have been serving with for a certain period of time I know that this was a new crew on the USS Indianapolis, but still like these are guys You've gotten to know like in the beginning of the cage movie, but those guys. I kind of wanted to see die I would I mean when I was taking Greyhound buses. I mean, I don't know them I still want to stab them in the heart. Mm-hmm. It's not really traumatizing to me I honestly think it makes you different than 65% of the people on the Greyhound buses Now really the USS Indianapolis is not a story that any of us should have heard The odds were greatly in favor of these men sinking to the bottom of the sea

Where their deaths would have been nothing more than a large number without a tail But the survivors of the Indy were extraordinarily Impossibly lucky they are just when McVeigh's group were using their flares to light cigarettes Scrounds from a case of lucky strikes that had floated by oh another group spotted a black speck Moving along the horizon Now the survivors had seen planes flying overhead relatively often during their time in the water But all of the planes were too high to see the men floating below But this pilot a man named Lieutenant Gwynn

Spotted the oil slick from his Navy bomber and decided to investigate See Gwynn hadn't heard of any ships being destroyed in the area But a large oil slick implied that a ship had in fact been destroyed Well technically that mission when he saw the oil slick he had thought maybe this was a ship that had we had already popped Right, so he was gonna go finish the job His key lot they armed the missiles to the plane when they came back around so they saw it circle And then they saw it come back and all of the survivors like they're coming for us to come and for us But the first thing that the impulse of the pilot was like we're gonna finish off these fuckers that are down there

And we're just gonna bomb them whatever's left in the water until what he saw I guess the pilot said he it looked like a bunch of coconuts Yeah, in the water. Oh, and he saw them. Yeah, and then he saw them. I was like all those coconuts have arms. Oh Arms are coconuts with arms, and then he called in and he said there's ducks in the pond There's ducks in the pond. Oh, yeah, that was a code They get the code was transmitted to all the ships in the area that assistance was needed and the survivors of the USS Indianapolis were finally saved 1100 men when the water Three hundred and sixteen men come out. Yeah, you did

Awesome Mistaken for dogs in a bath. That is just fantastic Well, they also and a lot of guys talked about how that was the scariest part. Yeah, that's what quit said. Yes That was how I was most terrified news and loser the waitin to get on the boat So the guy is like, yeah, we got a bunch of we got a bunch of turtles in the lake over here Whatever he called it and then how long was this rescue mission a few days So they had to hang out, but someone had a rescue. They took the worse injured first But they had to do it in a scary fucking way

Yeah, now the odds of rescue for the men of the ND was truly one in a billion For this to happen the sea had to be abnormally smooth the sunlight had to hit the oil and just the right way and Lieutenant Gwynn's plane had to be at just the right altitude and for me. This begs the question As to how many times this happened where there were no survivors Well, that's not just American ships. Yeah, let's not even think about Yeah It might be happening right now could be yeah could be that's just that's not just American ships That's ships of Indian nationality and that's also not just World War two. That's the history of naval travel

All right, how many times did this happen? It's really scary to think just how difficult it is to find somebody floating on the ocean that it's Yeah, and still even when Lieutenant Gwynn called in the shipwreck Nobody knew that the ND was even missing By the end of the first day 52 men were rescued emaciated shark bitten and covered in oozing Sores they had to put them on the water plane came right the circle brown out They circled back around and the water plane came and it was not supposed to hold 52 people in the first go

They had to tie them to the wings Wow, they literally had to tie them to the outside of the plane. So you have just been You've just been in the water for this is the rescue. Yes, and now you are flying I don't think they took off with them on the wings And you know what so what's funny Ben is that the name of the Navy rescue team Dumbo No cute Named after that sad elephant Took her mother Wow

Well the oil on their bodies was so thick that it had to be heated before it could be removed And those were the men who still had skin. Yeah The guys who had skin they were always bragging Yeah, floating in salt water for four days is akin to taking an acid bath and Some men's skin simply slid off their bodies when they were pulled out of the water Now, what do you do then? What do you do there? You get a bandaid, man? You get a you get a graft I think you might just die. I think you see the sea shea butter Yeah, a lot of a lot of guys after they were rescued like they survived their time in the water

And they just died on the ship. Yeah, it was yeah, just the worst the worst I guess and what made matters worse was a particular asshole by the name of RIN who Grilled some of the survivors like enemy agents when they were brought onto his ship Even after a survivor had his flesh and muscle pulled from his bones when he was brought out of the water RIN still screamed questions in his face Asking him what his ship was and what city the Dodgers played in What the fuck do I give a shit? You want me to tell you what the die in that in that era probably Brooklyn Brooklyn

Brooklyn bad the Brooklyn Dodgers But for the most part the search and rescue crews were gracious and the men were gracious in their rescue The sailors of the USS Doyle gave up their bunks for the survivors and the survivors when they were finally given water for the first time They drank just the minimum amount Said I got mine and then passed the bottle to the next man. Oh, it's nice by the final tally Approximately 300 men died in the initial torpedo attack while 579 Died in the water. Yikes and even the men who were rescued had PTSD

So bad that some of them couldn't even take a bath for the remainder of their lives I'd certainly avoid the beach. Yeah, that's true So remember that when you when you run into someone maybe they stink a little bit, but maybe don't judge them Maybe they were they were a survivor of the USS in the Annapolis 97 years old there are five men left on earth who remember the us that were on the USS in the Annapolis And they're all in their 80s, but everyone has their own struggles Everyone has their own USS But there's I mean there's one there was an interview I saw with one guy like when someone just like suggested

Do you ever go near the water? He looked terrified? He's still to this day? I mean he was in his 80s and he looked here. He goes on me and me and water don't get long I don't know. I don't go I don't go near water. Nope Uh-huh. Just like Jason Voorhees. They were deeply. I mean traumatizes the a small word for what they were like afterwards Yeah, it's absolutely life-altering life-changing. They'll never be the same again. Yeah, and also my pillow came from it Oh, that's nice. I love that guy who does all the drugs I mean that the documentary the PBS documentary is let's let's say the PBS documentary is a little Candy-coated well it's a lot on like we have a new submarine. We're gonna find in the USS Indianapolis

We're gonna find it which is like probably the last thing that they want to see I never want to see that damn boat again No, they did they brought in guys that were on the USS Indianapolis the co-founder of Microsoft like did a James Cameron Went and found it himself. They brought in these old men to like look at it and some of them were like whoa That's amazing. I remember that I remember being on that back. I remember being there showing Nicole Brown Simpson's sister a bunch of knives Yeah, why do I don't want it? I know I was there. I know what it looks like. I was in it There were well, there were degrees I think you know with some of these men I think if you were on Captain McVeigh's Ship if you were in his little flotilla then it wasn't as bad because yeah rations the whole time you were on a raft

You were the stable leader like he was kind of like keeping shit together They I feel like the captains or also like held people together But then if you're on one of the other groups, you know, if you're in the red manable cruise line Yeah, if you're in the red main group or our Bucks group like you're coming away with it with much different stories Then you know a guy in Captain McVeigh's group And of course for a disaster of this magnitude Someone had to answer for it So you remember the USS Indianapolis had just dropped off the enriched uranium used in the atomic bomb

Dropped on Hiroshima meaning that all of this happened in the last weeks of World War two On the same day that the Japanese surrendered the sinking of the Indianapolis was also Announced to the public it kind of soured the victory because the men and the boys and the indie they died for no reason at all But since somebody had to pay the blame was placed completely and totally on the shoulders of Captain Charles B. McVeigh the third in November of 1945 just months after he survived the sinking of his ship Captain McVeigh was court-martialed Wow failing to order his men to abandon ship and time which was not a fair charge and

For failing to zigzag also not a fair charge. This man was scapegoated harder than I Would say he's one of the top scapegoats of the 20th century as far as people that were like Unfairly blamed for a lady the whole thing on him because they just wanted to say that it's kind of like it was a mixture of policy and Bad luck that's all like the missiles that came from the I mean that's just war man. They were fine. They're out there to kill But that's what to blame. That's who you blame. Yeah, yeah, what is it good for? What's so what's so Well, dude, I mean speaking of the person who fucking launched the torpedo during McVeigh's court-martial hearing they brought Commander Hashimoto to testify

Oh my god, the USS Indianapolis he showed up in court. Sorry everybody. It's just Man, I was under the influence of a flag. Oh, of course. So what happened to McVeigh? Well, Hashimoto said that even if McVeigh was zigzag and it wouldn't have made a difference Because Hashimoto had fired enough torpedoes to guarantee a hit. He's like it wouldn't have mattered Even so McVeigh was court-martialed and placed on the dead-end career track as a rear admiral And your admirals actually do a lot of this zigzag. Oh, yeah Well McVeigh was I mean McVeigh was by all accounts a Fantastic captain. I mean he was third generation too or no

He was second generation like his father had been a naval captain. His son was in the Navy Every man to the one on the USS Indianapolis had nothing but the best things to say about McVeigh he was supposed to be an admiral Wow, because the court-martial had been highly publicized and because the media had pressed the Navy's narrative that the disaster was all McVeigh's fault. Oh the the families of the men who died transferred their grief and hatred Directly to McVeigh himself. What a nightmare for that poor guy. See McVeigh had erroneously thought that writing 879 letters of condolence to the families of the men he lost

He thought that'd be a comfort to the families, right? Instead all McVeigh dead was give all of these people his home Mailing address. He docked himself. Oh, man for decades Decades afterwards McVeigh received a steady stream of hateful letters from the families of those killed on the USS Indianapolis all of them blaming him for the tragedy and the letters Only increased around the anniversary of the sinking and especially at Christmas. Oh, yeah Oh, get letter after letter this that you're the reason why you know my my husband would be I want to wish you a merry Christmas I'd be having a merry Christmas except your decisions led to the death of my husband

And that's why my children don't have a father This would be my took the 25th birthday of my son except he's dead because of you Oh, this is just you just see him flipping through me. I'll be like hate mail hate mail hate mail Oh, a bill hate mail hate mail. Oh my god This is this is clearing house. Yeah, you're talking about it's a memory from when mail was a thing and people cared about mail Yeah Amidst a never-ending flood of hate mail from sisters brothers wives and parents not to mention the insane amount of PTSD He suffered from McVeigh put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger on November 6th

1968 damn that ain't right But in 1996 an 8th grade student named Hunter Scott began researching the story of the USS Indianapolis for a school project after he saw Captain Quint's speech and Jaws How movies change lives? I don't care what Spielberg has done. I don't care about his crimes and the secret You know you don't know you just don't know you just don't know. Yeah, I think you have a pretty good idea I don't think Spielberg. We did we shouldn't just be saying what did Spielberg know? What would they tell him before he calls the counters of the third guy? What did he know? You're talking about alien stuff that is again that criminal. It used to be more serious. It is very serious right now And after this 8th grade student discovered the terrible disservice done to Charles McVeigh

He began a campaign to clear the captain's name Hunter was soon joined by the commanding officer of the second USS Indianapolis, which is a fast-attack nuclear submarine Cool, that's not gonna do bad things And working together they took the fight all the way to Congress and after a lengthy legal battle with the Navy a Resolution was passed in October of the year 2000 exonerating Captain Charles B. McVeigh 55 years after the tragic sinking of the USS Indianapolis But while the sinking of the USS Indianapolis was really no one's fault at least when it came to the Navy brass a

particularly American desire for revenge and punishment ensured that the USS Indianapolis Still ruined the life and the career of one more man who had already Suffered more than we can ever imagine. Wow. Well, I mean, I guess it's nice for the family for the lineage It's always nice to be exonerated after you're dead because then you can Think you can really it really helps everything when you're dead What's going on right now with the NCAA Reggie Bush? He's getting his Heisman Trophy back Oh, because now you can actually make a little bit money and you can sign autographs

That's very nice. Actually, they used to they used to prosecute or I mean, he didn't kill 800 man Like no, he had sex with Kim Kardashian Wow, that is who well, I think you did. Yeah, I'm pretty sure anyway. Wow. What an incredible story the USS Indianapolis It is different than the Nicholas Cage movie Show me those things That's a crazy thing with the whole thing is that they there really was this public desire for punishment Like someone had to be punished for this and it was just McVeigh who happened to be the one who bore the brunt of Everyone's anger and grief. It's what we do. It's what we do. It's like, you know after 9-11. Someone was gonna get it

Yeah Just happen to know just yet. We just had that you spin the wheel and they did there was hundreds of thousands of Iraqis Yeah, there's always somebody's got to get it when America gets pissed somebody's gonna get it Yeah, and it's usually not the actual perpetrators. No, you're not looking at you Saudi Arabia. Oh, right? We're actually announcing our new tour dates over in Saudi Arabia Do have some tour dates we want to pump yeah week where y'all come out Des Moines Yes, I got some tickets available in Des Moines. We've got tickets available in Omaha We got tickets tickets available in Detroit I will say we're very very lucky in the fact that our shows are selling out and

It means a lot. We can't wait to come and see you last podcast and left calm get those Yeah, get the tickets. We can't wait to see you And we can't wait to go did we go to Omaha together or because I when I traveled across country I stopped in Omaha Yeah, we went over there. Okay, that was actually the the last date of the first big tour We did that year that we did Like 60 so we did something like 60 shows in a year. The last date was Omaha I'm excited to go and of course Des Moines. We always have a blast. I love Des Moines. That's stripped on there's really fun I'm not having fangs again before we perform. I'm not doing that, but I will have it afterwards. Yeah, sure

Wonderful wonderful for it. Um, well, thank you all so much for supporting all the shows here on the last podcast network Well, that shit last podcast merch. We got the last podcast merch. We got some Spring Hill Jack coffee We got the weed line. Absolutely Santa Anna. We're gonna be in there tomorrow Tomorrow, we're gonna be there from noon to four. We're gonna come down there and see you guys can't wait at Whedon I'm excited to do to show you some of our vape I'm gonna show them there. I hope you guys enjoy the vapes and is there anything else and a little bit of a notice You're gonna see a tiny change this week We're gonna have some interviews come out because our staff is taking a week off

We're gonna take a bit of a week off for everybody. So we're gonna be coming back around, but we're here We're gonna have shows pumping out. Nothing else will change a mini summer break But of course we still provide the content and I think you guys will enjoy all of this because we could put the lash to ourselves Yeah, we put what is it called phlegelizing? Flagellating flagellating flagellating flagellating flagellating Well, thank you so much for supporting the network and the shows and never forget hail yourselves hail Satan Helgi Augustulations show me the way to go This show is made possible by listeners like you thanks to our ad sponsors

You can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listened to go to last podcast network comm