Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 488: Randy Kraft Part II - Just Like Bridge

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

This week the boys wrap up the gruesome tale of The Freeway Killer, Randy Kraft, who after taking a short break from mutilating young men, re-emerged, ultimately racking up a body count of possibly 67 victims before being caught red handed.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started You know what Randy Kraft makes me long for what besides just did To a mustangs like man, but what's your eggs? Serial killers that like aren't as good as him Like he makes me sort of like nostalgic for an edgine style like someone that's like are just making them my angels Play with my dolls. There's my dolls in my field in my dream world I would say edgine was very good at being edgine. Yeah, he made a full nipple belt and his mom became a couch

However, I do get Henry's point and that edgine only killed two before he was caught It's more like a simpleton Murderer that is not quite as skilled as Randy Kraft if I may give a little bit of a pushback on that Gary Ridgeway Very much a simpleton Everyone I am Ben hanging out with Marcus and Henry We are live from Jacksonville, Florida the home of some of the greatest serial killers of all time Yeah, and of course the jumbo shrimp two three four We are the jumbo shrimp here to play the game

There's a bunch of rags inside of me We are on to part two of Randy Kraft and it's only gonna get more disgusting. He really puts the Randy in Randy So when we last left Randy Kraft He was well into the 12-year long murder spree that would eventually claim at least 67 lives, but like other serial killers we've covered it seems like love Temporarily killed Randy's beast can we have a soundboard that does like the old sitcom thing where people go Welcome to Delilah this song goes out to Randy Kraft and his beautiful wife Thanks for calling in see as we said last episode it's thought that Randy Kraft almost certainly had an

Accomplice in some of his many murders and considering how fellow freeway killer William Bonin had no less than four Accomplices, it's not a long stretch to think that Kraft may have had a string of accomplices as well I try to do some outside kind of like how do you put it asymmetrical research on Randy Kraft because he's never talked about That I was trying to think of like cuz Randy Kraft never talked We don't know really anything else I'm gonna I'm gonna comment a little bit later on one of the police interviews that he did But it really just shows what a cool customer Randy Kraft was versus anything else

But I listened to some interviews with William Bonin to kind of get a little bit more headway into what this style of killer is thinking and he said one thing that was interesting where he was like My main thing is is that I didn't really know how death came to a man when you stab a man and stab a man and stab a man You don't really know where you're putting it. I don't know where the heart is. I don't know where the organs are I'm just stabbing stabbing just kind of see how much he leaks Basically, but it did give me kind of this thing of like but Randy Kraft really built It's like how a comedian builds his tool sets. Hmm. Where you see like that You just fucking like right, you know because you accrue skills and abilities like me bomb arts right passions

My natural just my my tits my huge tits perfect tits Yeah, I just steal all of my humor from iced tea because I read his tweet today And he said I just got robbed at the gas station. I'm all out of money And then he said I called the cops and then the cops said, you know, who did it? He said pump number nine It's more it's pump number nine is who's doing all of this Fucking Midwestern father now he's become Bill Engel. Here's your sign Now the accomplice theory has never been definitively proven when it comes to Randy Kraft But it was strongly believed by the prosecution in Randy's eventual multiple murder trial that Randy's first accomplice might have been his first

living boyfriend Jeff Graves and if Randy would have married Jeff and taken Jeff's last name He would have been Randy Graves Which is like the best gay burlesque name ever Family themed gay burlesque dancer named Randy Graves. Oh, yeah, go for it boys You wait until I'm 55 and I let it all go They call me the brown waterfall You better come and support me Now Jeff was never charged with anything

But in response to intense questioning from the police after Randy's arrest Graves said quote I'm not really gonna pay for it, you know Now whether he was talking about taking responsibility for Randy's crimes his participation in the crimes or just simply his own sexuality We'll never know. There's one thing They're honestly There's a little bit of a reading about the the relationships that Randy Kraft had between both of the Jeffs Is that it seems to be they really let their partner be super independent? Yeah? They get to just do whatever but I think that might tend towards it really and helps harbor a serial killer in a way

I actually would put I would put it that they were so independent of each other that the one never really knew what the other was Doing and yeah, you you assume always out suck a nick because that's what you think he's doing. Well, that's what you're doing exactly Well, it's at some point you're so independent that you're no longer in a relationship. Are you yeah? You're just to know your two birds flying together. Hmm. That's something But perhaps the reason why investigators lean so heavily on the Jeff Graves theory is that when Randy and Graves split up Randy's urge to kill lessened then disappeared for a relatively long period of time Interesting that doesn't mean however that he stopped immediately soon after the breakup He murdered a 19 year old named Paul Fuchs and in a choice selection of lame serial killer humor

He gave Fuchs the name Expletive deleted in his scorecard. Well now why I don't get because it's spelled f u c h s It looks like fucks it might actually be pronounced fucks. I don't know if it's pronounced I don't know if people actually do pronounce fuchs as fucks. Paulie fucks. Yeah You go either way. Wow. So who now again corniness seems to run high in serial killers Maybe we should check on iced tea Start with billing No

Eventually though Randy met and moved in with the aforementioned chubby apprentice Baker the much younger Jeff Selig See in Jeff Selig the way the author. I like how he he described them He said that Jeff Selig was the Lucy to Randy's desk I thought you were gonna say that he was the Lucy to Randy's goose Terminally goose. Yes, I love that deleted scene from that new doc you movie about Lucy You know what I love about that movie too. It's about comedy. Totally serious Oh, I love that when they take all of the good things of comedy out of comedy. Yeah, that's great Well for the first 18 months of their relationship Randy didn't commit a single murder

Wow Seemingly he was happy with a sort of boring domestic life that depifies most people as they enter their 30s gay or straight See this reminds me of expectations because when Marcus said he didn't commit a murder for 18 months I literally was like good for him Wow, wow, wow, I've never committed a murder and I'm 40, but I didn't like I just haven't started doing it Well, yeah, I do see that weird craft bone in 2024 shirt Randy and Jeff joined their friends Phil and Bob for what they called Friday night poker club Oh my god, Phil and Bob is also what they were doing all night

And once a week the foursome would play poker or a bridge Interestingly craft would later play bridge on death row with one of the other freeway killers William Bowman as well as Lawrence Bittaker the toolbox killer and Doug Clark the Sunset Strip killer Oh my god pain in the ass group seriously bro must have been because Randy Kraft very Famously took his bridge seriously. Mm-hmm. Wow not a shocker Yeah, he took it very seriously He would get very frustrated when he lost because he viewed it one of their friends within the poker the game circuit said You know if you think about it murders a lot like bridge

Because it's really just about Randy understood. This is true. This is a quote. He's like Randy understood at some point that if you get a Hand and understand a hand and bridge you win So all he has to do is understand one murder and then he could do bunches and bunches of them All right, I love it. I wish I could see the poker tournament You know with the little cameras that they used to show on ESPN. I think they were out of content entirely I would love to hear what these people talked about. They must have just been disgusting I guess or they just thought probably just talked about Salisbury steak. I think so probably watched I'm gonna say is this bad to say maybe this is bad on Shark Tank, but I feel like this is a shark-shank group

Yeah, yeah, they might see that mr. Wonderful guys probably I don't like the villain But eventually the urge to kill came back and Randy returned to murder at the end of 1976 with victim Scott Hughes Discovered completely dressed except for the laces on his shoes Hughes had been alive when craft cut his genitals open from the base of his penis down to his scrotum It's just like bridge and remove just like bridge. Oh my god remove the left testicle This is honestly and you guys questioned it, but this is why I got the zipper put in Yeah, like the kangaroo shoes where you could put up any that's great. I'm so happy you got zipper balls zipper balls Additionally craft was getting an extra charge from throwing the bodies on busy freeway ramps such as the on ramp at Euclid Avenue in Anaheim

That's where Hughes was found. Yeah, I was thinking about this and I wonder if His urge abated when he first got into a relationship or is he setting up the character of Dude who dates you Randy craft? I think the urge did dissipate because you see this a lot in serial killers where they get into something where they see Oh, this will fix all my problems. Yeah, like oh, yeah, this maybe I can get here because it starts It's exciting you're you because he was significantly younger you found that he found that out accidentally We're having fairly violent sex. It's regular sex very regular. Yeah, and they all kind of played a little bit with some with spankums There's some leathers there they all did that. Mm-hmm. Okay, that might be able to fill the void for a while

Yeah, well the dumping of the bodies on busy freeway ramps that was done not because the possibility of getting caught was more exciting But because this made the bodies more likely to be found and it made them more likely to be found quickly And of course if they're found quickly then the true extent of the mutilation could be appreciated in terms of terrorists He's a terrorist It just seems like in the 70s. These were ways to tell people how to get to your house Yeah, you just be like take a right on the body Corpse you're gonna want to take a right there It just seems like everyone was dumping bodies on the highway. Well, this this fucking four-year time period. It's wild

To maximize the effect craft was also mutilating the bodies more savagely burning them more with Car cigarette lighters mutilating the genitals further for example by cutting off the tips of the penises and Playing tic-tac-toe on the victims torsos and legs with his knife This is shit. I've written into sketches You know, I mean and I know like I'm not saying like like about making a joke about it, but it is interesting It is so wild. It's so over the top It's very cartoony and also the other thing that really struck me with my research this week was how so many of these victims Were right on top of each other

Multiples in a month like just again, we'll get into it He even expands this but he worked fast and hard. Did he play tic-tac-toe with anybody else or just himself? I think it was just himself. Well, I hope you won actually we will get into that later on But concerning the disposal method It's hard to imagine how Randy Kraft managed to push dead bodies out of his car while still driving 50 miles an hour That is unless he constructed an elaborate system of fucking ropes and pulleys Or I thought maybe a spring-loaded ejector seat. Well now we're getting into inspector gadget territory I don't know maybe it is the over-the-top nature of it

But I did start as I was writing this did start to think more and more in this whole thing in loony tunes terms Does he have bucket seats because maybe he did bucket seat you could kick him out. Mm-hmm. That's a mustang I mean at least he switches from a 1974 Mustang to like a 1979 Toyota Salica. Sometimes he had a van Yeah, sometimes he had a van sometimes he had an RV I think one one thing I was maybe rolling around my head was that he set it up in a way. He got so He got so in control. It's like bridge So in control of the scenario that I feel like he could almost like I mean this is really graphic and obviously belittling them as you as humans, but like

Mushing the cadaver up against the door and then like you either have a string You could have a string because he really did prep or you do the thing where you get real good at driving Because he's already on fucking valium You know you mean like he's already half lit most of the time when you go in reach across pop it and then he Flings out because you do see several moments where people have seen him do it right in front of them And they do see one dude, but I have a theory about accomplices that we'll get into later And I guess no one's expecting to get pushed out of a car. So maybe the element of surprise They're all

And I think and that's why they it just happens so fast And they're like watching it happen right in front of you and no one thinks so they see a very stern looking man with the mustache Right Well in one case craft was driving fast enough for the victim's body left a 90 foot streak of blood and skin on the pavement Wow, strangely this victim's cause of death was drowning in salt water while being strangled Which again shows you that randy didn't always kill in his car Concerning the deaths of others some like donald crissle were ultimately killed by such bizarre methods as tylenall overdoses But with donald crissle randy crafts 20th victim the police brought in a psychic after getting nothing but dead ends for years

Yep, you know who told them to hire her Who her she showed up and she says I have a vision you'll be hiring me soon You nailed it. The psychic's name in this case was jone julian aka reverend jones. Yes, it's me reverend jones I don't need anybody to call me reverend but myself. Oh my god. You smell like smoke Thank you She told police that she had a vision of a quote gay party animal who lived in a trailer park in urvine Working with this evil animal were other human sacrifice cultists Including a 50 year old man a short hispanic woman with big tits

And a balding former marine combat pilot who loved knives And that's in addition to other various bikers and satanists. Is this the b team? I love it. Absolutely. So in the end the only thing reverend jone got right was the word gay Hey, that's halfway there. That is halfway there reverend. You deserve it. Also. Can you come with me when I go to the gas station? because Meanwhile randy and jeff selig were living a perfectly normal life together craft took more computer classes to become a better data processor and jeff became a partner at a specialty candy and pastry store called

grandma's sugar plums I think I googled that earlier today I know I clicked on one one grandma sugar plums of my instagram and now my algorithm is all huge titted gilps These gals can crush it still. Yeah, they really can. They still can Life is going well enough where randy and jeff bought a house together in july of 1979 A cute little stucco bungalow on roswell avenue in long beach This bungalow was naturally a short distance from the gay bar club ripples

Which still provided randy with victims here and there Now jeff selig never once in their eight years together suspected that his long time partner was a serial killer Although considering how randy's car was in essence a serial killer mobile when he was caught It seems likely that jeff spent eight years never once catching a ride with his live-in partner. Think about that There must have been either he was in on it in some way shape or form Which I don't know if I completely believe I don't believe he was at all because he really was a the light-hearted Silly dude like that's kind of he was exactly. He was a partner at grandma's sugar plums Yeah, and not like d4 was though because we do know some and jeff dot jeff redimer both worked in candy and both were

And butcher baker monsters. Yeah, but that's it. But that's the things that dean curl made fucking pralines, which are iffy on candy They're not very good. I'm sorry We are literally in the we are in the praline belt right now pralines or pralines. I'll say whatever the fuck I want My fucking mentions Side stories between the daffodils and the dandelions, which are barely mixed up I don't give a shit. I don't go on twitter Fuck you. You're a hero and a saint I swear to god if dean coral would have invented our room bro. We wouldn't have covered him

Because workers be like, you know, he's a good dude at the end of the day people make mistakes Sometimes they make up to 70 mistakes But it's a crazy thing to think that you could live with someone for eight years and never ride in their car You never trust never you never actually know your partner I mean, it's very true. Yeah, you really you can no No, no, there's an inner core to every person. I mean, it is totally unknown to the others You think you know me, but you don't know what I do when I go take my fucking little shoes off. There's an inner core There's an inner core. I guess but I've ridden in your car and it's totally fine. Yeah, because I clean it

I clean my blood out. I think we know each other fairly well, but this is the equivalent to uh John Wayne Gacy's room that you don't go into right because I was thinking like the like what is the spot where None of these people were allowed to go and I suppose it's the car must have been We know for a fact that the floorboards of his car will find out later on were soaked in blood Like this has been his roving mobile murder unit for the entire time. It's it's really weird But yes, the idea like you never go in your boyfriend's car. Yeah, it's weird Well, partly Jeff Selig never suspected Randy because the hours they kept in their respective careers allowed them to live separate lives Since Jeff was a baker in his own business. He kept baker's hours, which for all intents and purposes is pretty much a night shift

Randy meanwhile could always use his work with computers as an excuse to be gone for days at a time because this being 1979 Most people including the author of the book we used as a source for this series Didn't have a clue how computers actually worked. They really didn't he did sort of sound like he was transported from another time period like from the industrial age because he's been like these so-called gay computers mysterious inner workings And so Randy was free to kill again and again All while he kept up the facade of a normal man with a boring job and a seemingly loving relationship On february 18th 1980 police found the body of a 19 year old marine named mark allen marsh

Marsh had been decapitated and his hands had been severed from his body Which interestingly seemed to be an mo that was reserved for marines. Yeah, he was obsessed with it with just marines Maybe they're I mean, I don't know but I mean decapitating and cutting off their hands the only time he ever did he did that twice He did it with mark allen marsh and he did it with mark hall who were both marines. Let me just pull out my new laptop here It's totally not a gay computer. It's the new apple tit and yes, that's a straight-ass computer Yeah, it's a pretty straight computer. Yeah, bro. Yep. Turns out he didn't like marines Did he keep I believe he kept some body parts as trophies. I believe he did body part. I don't know about body parts I know he kept a lot of like clothes and chains. Yeah, I don't think he kept any body parts though

Oh my god Eventually though Randy took a job that would allow him to increase his hunting grounds far beyond southern california In the summer of 1980 he got hired at Lear Siegler Industries as a data processing expert Which often sent him to portland to do data processing work for a subsidiary called peerless trailers Like I said Wow, what a great life. He liked total control. We know that for a fact He did this thing called est training, which is another version of like weird Scientology shit where people you go on stage

And people would yell what they think your flaws are at you and like he went through all of this sort of like yuppie Like early focus group business training shit also at the time that he loved Absolutely loved it and he apparently did really well. He wanted to train people in it You probably met someone like that when you were filming wolf. I mean, I know most of those guys That's the one thing about financial crimes is that in a way it's almost pure It's just about money, you know, I mean It's just a story of the matter, but if you take someone's money, they're fine. They're fine. Yeah, but you know, I mean They just get more of course

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While on the road Randy had his own expense account and access to whatever rental car he wanted And on one of his first trips out of town, Randy murdered a 17 year old named Michael O'Fallon in Oregon O'Fallon's body was dumped off the i5 highway 10 miles south of Salem and Randy codenamed him Portland Denver because O'Fallon had been hitchhiking from Colorado Now while Randy might have used the opportunity of regular out-of-town travel to put permanent distance between himself and the murders He didn't go to Oregon enough to satisfy his near constant urge to kill So the slayings continued in southern California and he would do this again and again like this is I mean

Again, that's the thing about him that is truly we like to Make fun of these fucking assholes and obviously randycraft is the same sort of he is a fucking dweeb and a piece of shit But he's incredibly dangerous because he would several times would turn two to three day trips Into little murder sprees that would be one serial killer's entire run He would do on a business trip. That's insane less than two months after Michael O'Fallon Randy back in southern California picked up and butchered a 19 year old named Robert Loggins then folded up the remains in a green trash bag and dumped the package in the gutter Where it was found three days later by a group of children

And I think that man and he did that because of Patrick Kearney. Yeah, because that's this is again We're heading into btk territory where because Patrick Kearney would eventually be known as the trash bag killer And he would do he was doing a tip of the cap to another person all operating at the same time And I was reading an interview with Patrick Kearney and him talking about them knowing that they had competition out there Like him talk about it as it was like it was competition He's like he's like, yeah, I heard there was a new boy on the scene, but when it really comes down to it I'm a necrophilia act. I don't do disgusting things like he did Patrick Kearney believed that Randy Kraft was below him because he just would shoot you in the head and then he'd like to play with

Your body. Yeah, wow oddly and perhaps tellingly Loggins death was ruled by police as accidental for a further three years I actually sleep in a garbage bag every night and I usually find myself in a gutter And he'd been dismembered. Yeah. Yeah, I miss you. I miss her potato myself every night before I go to sleep I take off my legs just because it's just nice to just be a torso. Yeah, I'm 40 now and I throw my back on when I'm sleeping You better go in the fucking dumpster and get it Wow these kids you can just see the conversation you touch that you touch it man. You just poke it with a stick and oh, yeah

Oh, oh, yeah made their day Made it ruined it It's an interesting story now with logins. We have a few more clues as to what Randy Kraft did with his victims prior to killing them When Kraft was finally captured police found photographs and negatives of logins sitting on the couch in Kraft's living room Slumped on a sofa either highly intoxicated or already dead In a series of pictures following logins was nude and in obviously pornographic positions What was more logins was by no means the only craft photographed in his own home police found

47 pictures of young men some nude some clothed and some very obviously dead And here we come across another possible accomplice angle Randy Kraft had no film development experience nor did he have access to a dark room That means that he had to get these pictures developed somewhere by someone who wouldn't report him Either because that person themselves were highly shady and didn't give a fuck what they were developing Or the developer had just as much to lose as Randy should anyone find out what they were doing Well, I did analog developing back in the day. Of course. I love your story about the grandma. Oh, yeah, but I um I'll tell you one thing about me and my compatriots in that field

We did not give a fuck What were on those roles unless we wanted to duplicate them and bring them to our friend And so to be honest, I'll tell you the truth. I was making what 575 at the efforts at the time If I saw a bunch of dead bodies on that fucking roll Honestly, I'd just let him go through and let him go because what am I gonna do? I'm gonna call the police I'm holding weed Right now like I knew that I had weed on me you're drinking scotch before you go in your breath ain't smelling too fresh Exactly. No, I drove here have lit

You know me and like I'm not gonna do well in prison and I'm gonna flip on and I had no one to flip on I just flip on anybody. I just feel like Shocked you would go gay People just did not go to jail. I'll do anything possible. But I also think that the accomplices in a way Randy Kraft Was very clever and he was very He was very specific and he really thought about his shit I even think that the compasses came and went I think that you'd get one accomplice

Like it was William Bowden He had four and he would work with one for a while and then be like now you're a victim number 25 And then like he'd get another one I I that is my idea is that he would have certain relationships That would go certain ways and then he would just wipe him out because he just kept doing that He would do that anyway. So why not just burn burn them like as you went as possible Now for the next two years Randy Kraft would commute between his home in Long Beach and Portland, Oregon Sometimes staying up north for weeks at a time there

He continued his killing spree creating some of his bloodiest crime scenes yet in April of 1981 Randy left Michael Clark near a landfill off I5 naked from the waist down His skull had been shattered by 30 blows from either a tire iron or a jack handle His anus had been ripped and his thighs and groin were covered in fingernail scratches Oh my goodness. I was just I was six months into gestation Oh at that moment So were you almost named Randy Kraft? Like so much is like is that one of those things where your mom is like, I hope he grows up

No, we are in that time period. He took one of his victims two days before I was born When were you born Henry 1984 I was past all this Um, this is when Kramer versus Kramer came out. That's how we really need to start positioning I love Kramer versus Kramer. Although that one Kramer loves the n-word He really did Um, but I feel like with this murder that each I feel like it's cause the dude fought back. You think so That's why you get he killed him so brutally. He might have interesting I mean this one was actually nicknamed Portland blood

Because it was you know, it was the bloodiest crime scene yet. Great name for a sporting team. It's a Portland blood That's cool. It's a freaking great ice hockey name or something. That's a roller derby team. Yeah, this is great A few months later back in california Randy killed a sex worker named Christopher Williams who hustled at the bus stops of hollywood Williams had choked to death on his own mucus And since he was a known sex worker police unofficially labeled his death as a quote-unquote Misdemeanor murder and it went entirely uninvestigated Now the thing about serial killers is that while some like Dennis Rader can balance their public facing life with their true self without issue Others like Randy Kraft eventually crack under the pressure

Perhaps there does exist a human threshold for murder that even serial killers reach because by 1981 at the age of just 35 Randy was falling apart. It's that seven-year-rich. Yeah, I guess so. I also wonder did an age like athletes Maybe well, I think that meets like pro wrestlers. Yeah If you look at the number of victims there actually might be something to that where you look at the wear and tear on baseball players right like the idea that any baseball player in particular just Bobby we need to get out of here Now let's switch it come on. Let's switch to dales strawberry. Can we switch it to dales strawberry?

Strawberry honestly, I think he's a better. He's actually a better athlete because of how much he did while actively using cocaine throw really talented But like btk only had like he had hit he had it far like literally a fifth of the victims Yeah, it's like not a brandy craft so btk could like his was all about the build-up and stalking and all of like his games And all the kind of shit where randy craft really was I I feel like in a way was burning the candle at both ends I'm randy craft here for icy hot your elbows ever hurt after you strangled your other another victim Icy hot Well, even though randy was getting preachy about taking care of one's health

He was obsessed with vitamins exercise and fresh vegetables and goddamn you if you weren't as well Oh my god, randy was shaky and jumpy. He sweated all the time his stomach hurt He had migraines. He had anxiety worry and fear. He couldn't eat sleep or concentrate And as a result randy got a poor performance review at work. You could have just very easily put your own name in there marcus You get high marks at work. What do you do at night? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah another well done performance review from marcus parks I don't sweat very much. That's true. That is true. What I don't prince andrew Again prince andrew on the show hot ones answering the tough questions, he'll sweat Well, he got a bad performance review at work and when randy began to suffer in the bedroom back at home

He moved out of the house temporarily Conversely though, we could look at his ailments another way randy's physical problems might have come from the fact that randy's killing had slowed down considerably Meaning his most effective avenue of release was cut off While randy was quite busy during the summer of 1980 He took a break from july until april of the following year and didn't kill again for 20 months This from what I can surmise matched up with the worst times of randy's ill health He just wasn't into it. He was not feeling good. He was probably feeling the heat because they were

Like the press was starting to get involved and talking about this because for a while the cops were they were actively Investigating it, but no one they never really talked about how many open cases they had. Yeah, and then when they arrested kirnee And that came out and all the news about his massive Like fucking body count and all this shit that he did like I feel like there's also some of that where he was like the People were noticing what was happening. Yeah, interesting. So he was following the other people in his profession He must have he had there is no way he didn't now But once the faucet was turned back on randy murdered six people in two states in the span of a month and a half Oh my god with all the fury and anger he'd had before and it's quite possible that his health problems dissipated soon after

Includes like when you're when you go to the doctor and you've been a chain smoker for three years or for, you know 30 years they're like if you quit smoking now, you're gonna die. That's what they told my father Yeah, literally being like they're like smoking is the only thing he's got because the doctor like randy you got to start killing again Okay, well if you're gonna beg me Wow Who included in those five murders was an actual double murder one of four that randy called his two in ones In december of 1982 randy attended a seminar through lear zeigler at the amway grand hotel in grand rapids michigan While randy's seminar was being held there was also a horticulture convention at the same hotel

Which is attended by two cousins named christopher schoenborn and denis alt No one is sure how randy pulled it off But when the bodies were found Schoenborn was naked while alt was closed Both were frozen and covered in an inch of snow and both were filled with alcohol and volume to render them comatose while randy Did what he liked a ballpoint pen from amway grand had been shoved up schoenberg's penis up to his bladder Oh my god while alt had somehow escaped this sort of indignity. He was the big one Uh, because there was one was a six foot one

Dude and the other guy was a little guy and he seemed to do the he he tortured the bigger guy more kissle So i don't know why you love this guy so much because everything out for you It's like he wants you he wishes you can play with your body like it's a blunderland That's true. Um, but he I was watching this little special on this like because there was the grand rapids like local investigative team like did a story about this and Randy kraft was seeing hanging out with these two dudes and it seems like they were the after party for the convention and randy kraft Like did the thing like you guys come here often like, you know He's like hanging out and doing his like weird thing like just like they were he seemed to be fine with them

But he was doing old school. I think Feed them beers. They were all just get they were lit They were lit right and then the reporter showed just how easy it was to slip Valium into an open beer, which also showed me I was like, have you been practicing this? Because he really did show he's like and with a flick of the wrist you can just drop the valium right in there And you know, it's just like, whoa, that's wow very practiced He's a cia operative Oh, perhaps any time a uh, the word grand is used wherever you are if it's a hotel or a city

It's not now and so always remember that like the more like hyperbole is used for the grand canyon It's a big hole. That is a big hole. Yeah Yes For some reason though when randy flew to portland for more murder instead of going back to la He left behind a green military jacket from one of his previous victims, anthony silveria Whom randy had killed in organ just a few days before More damning was the fact that christopher show and borne's car keys were found in randy's room Now today this would have been the end of randy craft

But randy had registered with a false address And even though it seems like he registered under his own name, henry, you might be able to help out with this I don't know for sure And that's the thing It's 1982 even if he had registered under his own name. You couldn't just google randy craft Right You he had to have been there under his own name because he was there for work Yeah

And since randy craft could be from anywhere Considering how there were two conventions going on at the same time investigators had little to go on But that's the thing is that even if he was there for work I would imagine that he the cops could cross reference The names with who attended what convention and then they could like call somebody like hey Where's this guy randy from? Who does he work for actually? We're a little bit busy. We're on the beat ice tea said he was wrong I feel like there might be a little bit of homophobic like this is icky. I think there's a little bit of that coming from the cops I don't know no not on this one. This is like a double murder. Yeah, it was intense

Yeah, and it's just like it's just two dudes dead in a field like that's that they're gonna investigate And they were positioned to like at right angles like in a snow field like it looks like a scene from seven It was very scary looking but he uh, you know what? I just don't fucking know I was watching a uh one of those explore with us like true crime stories I was kind of talking about this missing woman like on on youtube and they solved the murder by seeing on a ring Camera that the dude had the woman's keychain like in his hand They saw it just out of the corner of his eye, but it was also really difficult for them to prove it in court still And they had the footage of it because they're like, you know, all the the fucking defense attorney really has to do is like that

You can't see this is all smudges. What is it? Did you have your jeweler's glass? You know, I mean like that kind of shit where like I don't maybe it's just not enough Yeah, maybe But it would at the very least be enough for an investigation at the very least be enough to ask questions Randy Kraft was had been he'd already been questioned several times in SoCal Like they were they was being brought in because I mean by the Grand Rapids police Maybe it's because once he's out of town. He's out of fucking town. Yeah, and maybe it's really difficult to go and call

Like I'm not giving him. I don't know what the excuse is. I feel like you call like all of the fucking records We're ancient. Yeah, that's true But speaking of the investigation Authorities in Oregon were at least coming somewhat close to narrowing down who might be leaving these horribly mutilated bodies off i5 They theorized that since there were long periods between murder clusters The killer probably lived in another state and only visited organ for business Okay So they contacted other police departments across the country to see if they had murders with similar mo's and victim types

Sure enough organ got a hit from southern california and the six organ murders were connected to all the rest Randy killed back home. Yeah, some detective work going on here. Yeah, absolutely They're trying of course because they were really stuck and it was just these The numbers were piling up like it was really like this guy was out of control and the way they said is that they had boiled it down to 11 things 11 11 actions within randy craft's murders that were a part of his MO and these had 10 of them And so they called and they said it's like just ticked off the list and but maybe that's what it is Is because randy craft gave a false address maybe gave an address to some other hub within his business

So then it would you not looking at the so-called randy craft. Yeah shell corporations Now randy's time at lear zeigler was coming to an end because randy had finished the work He'd been brought on to do and he wasn't going to get hired for another job there Because he'd violated company policy by renting the nicest cars and running up the mileage while he'd been in organ He does not understand working yourself out of a job. Take it easy Take long lunches, you know relax To give you an idea of just how much randy craft prowled organ. He racked up 993 miles in just a single weekend

Whoa, even though the distance between the portland airport and his company was just 25 miles. I just like to drive He did say that when one of his police interrogations. He's just like I just get this driving fever, man Like if it comes on me, it's like, you know, I just get out there and I just zip on down to mexico I just zip all the way up to portland and they're all like that's not why Why would you do that? A lot of people like to drive they do it's mostly the murders. Yeah, that's the problem And so the road murder stopped save one and randy would therefore commit six of his last seven known murders in southern california It's also during this time period that investigators would obtain the strongest evidence yet for an accomplice

After a worker for the california department of transportation found the body of 21 year old eric church off the shoulder of the 605 on ramp near Seal beach It was found that the semen sample taken from the body did not match randy's blood type Hmm. Definitely another guy there Furthermore randy's next and last so-called two and one seemed to have been nearly impossible to pull off alone In february of 1983 cops found the still warm and mutilated body of jeff nelson Covered in skid marks after it had been pushed from a fairly fast moving vehicle The next day cops found a friend of jeff nelson's named roger devolt down a ravine next to the highway

The link between the two men came when both were found with potato skins and grapes in their stomach And a photo of devolt's corpse was later found in randy's possession. Oh man I don't want that to be my last meal potato skins and grapes It sucks unless you're at like a mixer Yeah, that's good for a mixer meal, but not for your last meal. No, no my last meal. I wanted to be a bullet But roger devolt he might have been the accomplice. I think that's the accomplice Oh, and then he gets it out. Yeah when he's done with him Well, let's get into it a little bit see with the grand rapids two for one

You had a situation in which randy most likely met the cousins drove away with him drug them with volume and beer Then killed them together in a secluded location when neither one could fight back That's his whole thing killing people when they can't fight back Additionally, it seems that he did it alone because he committed it far away from home And I believe the way that that would work is I mean straight up predator style You look at the big guy you get him super fucking loaded the him and the little dude were family members, right? They were cousins they go they went together everywhere. So you get the big guy hammered And you're like we're gonna go out this party because that's what randy craft used to do and say like we're gonna go out

To him some party. There's gonna be a lot of girls. You're gonna little girls and then you'd get in their car and by then You are now succumbing to like maybe you have one more road soda With another fucking value until a little guy a little guy is now drifting off The other guy's already out and then he just dispatches one and then dispatches the other Like in that and then because I think like that was part of his fucking game Was he liked it with the cards were pressed against him like that it was difficult to do He did it four times. He didn't take the easy way out. I mean other than being a murderer as opposed to anyone successful And yeah, but he definitely pushed himself to the limit. He didn't find easily easy to kill victims

It doesn't sound no but with nelson and devol any number of things could happen Some requiring an accomplice some not and some of course making devol the accomplice as he said From the solo angle randy was never found with a gun But it's possible that he could have coerced of all into helping him throw the body from the car with a gun pointed at him Then killed the ball afterward Devol also might have been the first killed and it was just a case of nelson being found before devol Or randy might never have had to threaten anyone and just killed one victim in his two and ones while the other was passed out Also, when you say two and ones, I just think of ponderosa. Yeah, and I think of like families eat free

That was fire for one, but this is this is about murder But that's more of a lame-ass serial killer humor is like it's taking like a fucking, you know as fast food special And trivializing a murder of two human beings, right? I'm giving up your life for lent But it also shows that he had his own little lexicon in his own mind and what and how he viewed his own work He wrote it was it like he would write that on he would write two and one and then like for the grand rapids He wrote two and one g r. Yeah g r2. Yeah But it's also possible that randy had an accomplice to help him handle both victims at the same time Especially considering how closely this murder came after eric church was found with another man seamen present

But they could I mean, okay, let's go out here. I'll let's go on a limb here. You're going on a limb Uh-oh, we swim in it. We swim in a deep water. Oh, deep see many waters. What if it's just some other guy seamen? I mean, it's very possible. No, it really is now that that's the thing What if it's a guy he didn't he didn't kill because he also would still cruise He would still straight up normally cruise. No, no the seamen was found on eric church's body Which means what I was more thinking is the eric church might have had sex with another man immediately before meeting randy Yeah, it's very possible. That's also that that's some of the people police investigators look at all the time when they love watching that Well, the fact that nelson was still warm when he was found

Tells us that randy probably killed him in the car while he was driving And it's hard to imagine randy strangling someone to death while driving down the freeway Although you could see because a lot of these victims were killed with their own shoelaces So it's possible that randy was driving had already wrapped and tied the shoelace around this dude's neck And was just pulling on it while he was driving just using one hand Or is he just choking a death on his own vomit? Yeah, like this one was strangled. Yeah. Oh my god Well, what else is interesting concerning eric church is that even though randy was found to be in possession of church's belongings That's how they connected randy craft to eric church's murder. Yeah

Church did not appear on randy's scorecard Meaning that the trophy from eric's murder May have been presented to randy as a gift from a willing accomplice. Sure. Oh, that's my shirt This is crazy. Sure because then he kills him. Maybe that's a thing. Maybe none of the accomplices are on the list Oh my god, this is freaking. This is a super super villain. He is He is one of the worst of the worst like besides like, you know The child murders of south america, which we'll get into in the other freeway killers. Like he is just Yeah, no, there's a world that went that existed around randy craft that we will never know because he still to this day

Does not admit any guilt whatsoever. It's amazing. He's still alive maintains an instance You know what he looks like now too. Remember the fat guy from fucking urnist goes to camp. Of course. Remember his partner? Yeah Looking like him. He went from real forty to that guy. He was a great sous chef for eggs or However, as it sadly went with most serial killer investigations in the past It's not until after the killer is caught that the pieces are all put together And even then sometimes many of the pieces are still missing

As such the killer often had to get caught red-handed And there are a few serial killers who have been caught as red-handed as randy craft was I would go as far as to say it was maroon handed Like this is this is as red as hands can be. They are they were they had blood on them No on may 13th 1983 the day before craft was captured His partner jeff selig was invited to participate in the first los angeles candy convention Oh my god to the candy convention. Okay, listen, okay, everybody's got to stop with the group rapes. Okay. I'm here for team laughy taffy Yeah, okay. Just so you know before just for everyone's awareness the group rapes will continue in the taffy room

But not here. This is the candy cane area. All right. It's candy cane area. I'm with team laughing taffy Yeah, I can tell Well randy helped jeff set up the booth at the candy convention. Then he left fuck this Imagine randy craft being surrounded by so much joy as a candy convention He was very again, but this is this is when randy crafts that is it's like highly agitated Like that's the truth He grew into because he used to really be a very cool customer if you read there's one interrogation within angel of darkness that is very interesting because

His story of like why he was innocent for this thing is so detailed Like he put so much detail into his alibis and and what he knows about the areas Like he does a lot of research about his dumping areas and all this kind of shit. It's just like bridge Just like bridge. I keep saying that to myself And then but randy by the time he's at this candy convention, he's like Fucking all right. Here's your fucking bonbons. All right. Do we got are we done here? All right, you want me to set all you want me to separate on my fucking nut. So is how am I supposed to know the difference that you want to cast you with a hazelnut This is where this is where you got some explaining to do Lucy

I I understand that would be confusing. Mm-hmm to be fair Well the next time yeah, no it really is I don't know I even know you're a murderer. Do you know how much blood is on my hands? You're making me hear dig through all these fucking academia nuts randy. You're stressed Don't tell me when I am why don't you spend some time in the laughing taffy room? Okay, you're right There's some group activity over there. I was really interested The next time jeff and randy spoke to each other. Who's the following day?

Randy had called jeffton told him that he had made a Monstrous mistake. Oh my god and needed help finding a good lawyer as soon as possible Uh, I think you need to go as far as an excellent lawyer. I need a cooby man. I want cooby Bill consular Call rudy julian See at around 1 a.m. The night before two california highway patrol officers had seen randy crafts 1979 toyota selica Driving far into the right lane weaving on and off the shoulder for several minutes After randy made an illegal lane change the cops turned on the sirens and pulled randy over

Let's go congratulate this guy and how great a drunk driver he The randy slowed down to 30 miles an hour But didn't stop and when cops pulled up next to him and shown a spotlight into his car They saw him grab a jacket from the back seat so he could use it to cover something next to him Man, I live in la I know what it's like to do everything within the confines of the driver seat of your car And like, you know, I've changed full outfits while driving a trip. You're an actor. That's gotta be very uh difficult Yeah, to cover up a world of murders. Yeah, wow

Finally randy pulled over and immediately got out of the car quickly and nervously walking towards the cops In the experience of the highway patrol this usually meant the driver was hiding something most likely an open beer And randy did indeed have a half empty moose head in his cup holder There's moose head. That was I love moose head. I've had it many times Yeah, I mean the best part of a moose head you drink dozen of them. You're only as drunk as you feel That's right only as drunk as a moose But the cops almost immediately noticed that randy's fly was open And they also noticed that there was an unresponsive dude slumped over in the front seat. That's the thing

Oh, yeah, because I thought at first I was like, no, do they get him because he didn't have a license to sell hot dogs? You got him the guy in the front seat was terry lee gambriel a 25 year old marine Whom randy said was simply a hitchhiker who had too much to drink You don't need to go talk to him. He's just had too much to drink. You need to stay far away from that guy He's had too much to drink. I see don't want to wake him up Yeah No not taking his word for it Sergeant michael howard approached the car and saw gambriel amidst several empty bottles of moose head beer

And an open prescription bottle of lorazapam. Where'd those come from? What when gabriel didn't wake from verbal command Howard tried shaking his arm and that's when he discovered that randy's passenger was cold as ice Oh, man, if you're a police officer side stories lpotl the gmail.com Is this the type of thing where you are dismayed at what your night is going to be or is there a little bit of you? That's like, yes Like this is going to be a good story. Hopefully you can get a promotion so you can get off the beat. That's what my dad did Your dad didn't know your dad had to go off the beat. No, no

He stopped uh, that's what he got commended for stopping a guy that was wanted for two murders on a traffic stop And then he chased him down and arrested him and then he got to not have to be a dangerous cop anymore And then he also detained the fat boys for a moment When howard reached to check gambriel's pulse He found the gambriel had a ligature mark around his neck from being choked to death by his own belt And when the patrolman removed the jacket, he saw that gambriel's genitals were exposed His lap was wet with urine and his wrists had fresh welt marks from being bound with his own shoelaces Well, let's just book him on public indecency for the zipper being down

Oh, it seems like there's kind of a gay thing going on here. Why don't we just give you let's just sort of Let's smooth this one over Anyway, what time is the laughy taffy room close? And as ranny waited for the paramedics to come and officially declare gambriel dead All craft would say was how's my friend? How's my friend doesn't seem like you treated him very friendly, did you? Now considering how erratically randy was driving during an obvious dump attempt It's hard to see how his method had never been noticed before Mayhaps randy was trying to accomplish alone. What was usually a two-man job?

But even so considering the mountain of evidence present in just randy's car alone All it would have taken to catch one of the most prolific serial killers in american history was a simple search, you know Oh, it could just be The fucking wheels are falling off too. It could just be he's lost the fucking the fucking grip on he's getting older He's not as he's not able to dump a body as well at 36 as he was at 26. That's how it is. It makes sense It's very physical to kill somebody. That sounds facetious, but it is true. Like yeah, I'm not I'm not as spry as I was at 29 Yeah, you've killed anyone you've been able to kill in five years. That's why he has to let all his body slowly dissolve in his bathtub covered in light Straight the old way the foodie. Do you know the classic Amish?

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And if you want to set your favorite weed store give them a call and ask for them by name last podcast on the left It's weed. Hail yourselves everyone. Hail Satan Well, besides a bottle of concoction called sticks Spelled styx, which author denis mcdougal identified as a quote aphrodisiac for gay lovers This author is so scared of how gay he is That is the problem He's jealous of randy crafts freedom. Yeah, he's not like I don't know if he's like scared

It's just there's this yearning that and he knows a lot about it. He's like, oh, yeah sticks only gay men Use sticks. Yeah, it's like, how do you know? It's like jeff sessions talking about the lifestyle of gay people and it's like, that's just you that's your life In addition to sticks cops found nine different prescription drugs A well-thumb paperback called the essential guide to prescription drugs and an envelope containing 47 photographs of young men in various stages of unconsciousness and death and a one-page pitch sheet that says if I did it What? Furthermore, it was obvious that gambrel was not the only person killed in randy's toyota selica

Because while gambrel had no open wounds the passenger seat of randy's car was soaked with blood Oh my god, furthermore. What's that even smell like it must have been a slaughterhouse. Oh, you just scrub the outward blood off I mean side stories lplgmail.com if your car is soaked in blood. What does it smell like? Yeah, and it doesn't have to be human blood say you're a hunter. Yeah, you didn't have the bed of your truck was filled with Something you had to put the deer in the backseat and what happened perhaps on open lines our serious radio show and thanks so much for calling Maybe we'll talk about police investigations or something at some point. Yeah Here's some of the juicy stories uh from the from the lives of cops Crazy

Furthermore cops found a briefcase containing a woodgrain binder with 61 neatly printed notations 30 names or phrases on the left and 31 on the right This was randy's scorecard And while randy at first said that it was a list of nicknames for his friends in the gay community It was obvious to investigators that this was a victim list However to this day only 42 out of the 61 entries have been positively identified as 44 victims Including the two in ones meaning they were 17 john doves. Oh my god Including two unidentified double murders

These victims were listed as Angel harikari marine down van driveway two and one mv to pl lb marina diabetic portland navy white user Iowa two and one hitch front of ripples carpenter mc dump hb short portland egg oil and finally What you got? All I know is if you kill me don't name my illness Yeah, I don't need to be known as diet diet. Yeah Stinky gout Yeah, oh a super funny castable man. What is this? Wow

What this shows considering the locational nature of some of the names is the transient nature of many of his victims And it shows you just how many extremely violent deaths in this period of time were lost in the shuffle as so-called misdemeanor murders Alternatively, it might instead or also show that southern california is still covered in dead bodies that have never been found for certain Yes, for example included on randy's scorecard was paul fuchs His body is missing to this day and we know that he killed him. So yes, there is definitely there has to be many bodies left Investigators cleverly made the connection to randy's lame serial killer joke expletive deleted and they put two and two together Because fuchs was a regular at club ripples where randy found multiple victims

And speaking to lame jokes harry curry might refer to a 30 year old man named david sant Who was found with multiple stab wounds to the stomach? His body was found in a kneeling position with his arms extended outward Which could be seen as a reference to the japanese ritual suicide practice of harry curry, right? Yeah, unless it was a guy who sounded like harry carry Interestingly though the scorecard entries were very similar to how date vials and an ibm computer worked Meaning that randy craft had applied his nerdy computer knowledge to his murder catalog It feels like not only just his

I don't know if it's just his like computer shit. It's just also kind of how his brain worked Because he was one of those like hyper hyper specific dudes that just like lived by his own weird Kind of code like i feel like all serial killers live like or most serial killers live like so well He's talk about organized killers. Yeah, he is by far One of the most organized killers that there has ever been Oh, yeah, because he really did keep a running tally and this was obviously kind of like his way to jerk off looking at his list Yeah So after finding enough evidence to convict randy just in his car

Cop set in on randy's apartment where furniture in the house was matched up to randy's photos As far as heart evidence went a shaving kit inscribed with the name michael cluck was found in randy's bathroom Where randy had obviously used it on the regular In addition, they found michael o fallon's camera a neralco shaver carrying case belonging to eric church And a pair of nun chucks that had belonged to a victim named lance tags Man, you had to take nun chucks from your victim. How dangerous are you man? He had nun chucks One of the most dangerous weapons that there is. Yeah, because it's one of the only weapons that can really kill you accidentally Absolutely. I used to have a pair when I was a kid. I bought him at a thrift store and they were real cool

Yeah, I got my head. I hit myself in the head a lot, of course There was also a box containing chains shoe laces shirts jackets and belts all from murder victims And they found an old yellow rug that matched fibers found on the body of victim scott hughes All this evidence and more pointed towards the fact that randy had been killing men in his own home Right under the nose of his partner For years and we're going to give you an extra year again for being an illegal hot dog salesman Wait again, check on your lover. Yeah, see what they're doing ask. Hey, how's your day? No, really? How's your fucking day? It really didn't yeah, you can dig in if you like. Yeah, man get in there man

accuse your lover tonight But despite evidence that rivals that found in john Wayne gasey's curl space Randy maintained his innocence. In addition, his partner jeff selig defended him and all his friends family and co-workers Went along with the frame-up story. It's because his character that was normal guy randy craft was very well put together Very well liked too. People really thought it looked solid like it looked like there's no way he's got this dark side He's a nerd. He lives this shit. Like, you know, he lives this quiet like The kind of suburban gay lifestyle and he has a professional job and all of this shit and you never know What anybody does no and of course all those people dropped away faster and oj simpson hangers on

Once the evidence started coming out, right, right? No one stood by him for long Randy craft was really like living that american dream the true american dream is that if you lie long enough it becomes real Absolutely, and if you just never admit if you never submit to what anybody says to anything ever the maybe one day They'll all just forget about it. Yeah, they'll just leave you alone and sadly often they do Now about a month after craft was arrested police received a compelling if probably fake letter from a man named less Who claimed that he was the new zodiac killer? And some of the victims attached to craft actually belong to him. Oh, but it wasn't him It wasn't me last year

Oh Are you trying to be jeff dunham? Let's claim Let's claim to have come to quote Liquidate the evil boys and men of this area who were all members in the army of satan Oh my god This letter quite reasonably was ignored and randy was charged with 16 murders. Yeah, there's that guy though Letter from less bunny chance

Now the cops did have enough evidence to charge randy with many more than 16 murders But they figured perhaps rightly that 16 was enough because randy was going down No matter what and this is already going to be one of the longest and most expensive trials in orange county history Yeah, it would have been nice if the victims families could have screamed at him to his face But uh, yeah, I mean they did eventually get together and all yell at him, but it's not the same I mean that's because you know the thing too is that what's funny about the court system and all that kind of shit If you if something goes wrong like you really have to play it correctly Even when you have a guy dead to rights and you're like, oh, he's gonna go away forever

Absolutely if the lawyers fuck up like you're you could bust it all up And so you might as well like keep it tight like let's get him what we can get him for I can't I mean that is bigger than 99 percent of weddings if all of the victims families get together Yeah, that's hundreds of people. Yeah, really is. Oh my gosh But the opinion that randy was going down was not randy's opinion While he waited for trial. They'll take this into account Listen, listen, let's ask randy. What do you think? I didn't do it. He didn't do it

I mean, it is true if they if the jury comes back and they say guilty and if if in within two seconds you say the word not It works. Yeah, but not from the year 1992 to 1997. Yes Well while randy waited for trial He wrote letters to his sister saying that he discovered meditation and the philosopher allen watz And he spoke to everyone who came by as if nothing had even happened. Oh my god, because he just figured I'm gonna he's gonna do he's doing old fashioned John. Let's hold the line. Mm-hmm. Yeah In a predictable move randy also started studying law so he could act as his own defense attorney Of course because he thinks he's a fucking genius. Yeah, but he was wisely persuaded to trust a licensed lawyer by the time the pre trial hearing began

However, there wasn't much even an experienced lawyer could do Echooing John Wayne Gacy's unlicensed graveyard defense The lawyer was forced to claim that just because a murder victim is discovered in the front seat of the car you're driving It doesn't necessarily mean Think you're the one who killed him just because I woke up next to a thousand Taco Bell rappers It doesn't mean I'm the one who ate all the Taco Bell. Yes. I was alone Man, he just must be such a funny ass lawyer that owes so much money to so many different people or he says like How could this be a crime?

Well, that's what he did. He called being pulled over with a body in your car. He called that circumstantial Circumstantial He's got it, you know credit to him Everyone deserves credit to his profession I guess well, meanwhile Randy was convinced that somehow if he just kept denying the truth He'd walk away from 16 murder charges and a christmas letter written to his family Craft optimistically drew upon a popular pop culture reference of the day writing quote I think master luke. There is a joyous swelling in the force. Oh my god. I'm gonna do any gas pumps work in this country

number nine And since there were so many murders to contend with jury selection didn't begin on randy's trial for five years Oh my god. Well, he was in jail at least during that time. Yeah, he got to Bail. Yeah, no, he went out on bail like helping fucking Jeff set up at other candy the second annual Los Angeles candy convention No, he's in fucking jail and because of the volume of the charges the trial was expected to last another two years Wow, you're asking a lot of these jurors. Yes Oh my god, two years of your life as a juror on this case This is why you find only you only find people who have like a plate in their head

Or like somebody who's been like my grandfather is an alien Like that's the problem. That's who we end up But what happened? I mean you have to if you get elected to jury duty, we will just have to stop the show I mean, yeah, really would but this we have to record at court I mean that might actually help us Well by the end of it 157 witnesses took the stand and over a thousand pieces of evidence were introduced by the prosecution You know, I almost got put on a murder jury trial a week before me and carolina got married I remember. Yeah, that was horrible. And then you were like i'm a true crime podcaster. They're like shut up

You don't do the thing where like maybe murder isn't so bad a crime No, I definitely went into like the true crime pedigree. It's like, yeah, I'm a true crime podcaster and in the past I've worked on many True crime podcast and the prosecutor Openly told me I was trying to get out of jury duty and it's been like you're trying to get out of being a fucking moron ass Got your ass. Also, check out this trick. I'm an unlawful hot dog salesman I just like I would like to just tell the remind the court opening up your pants and revealing your penises actually a crime You can be arrested for while you're in court By the end of it 157 witnesses took the stand in randy craft trial and over a thousand pieces of evidence were introduced by the prosecution

Crafts defense meanwhile relied on alibis and alternative suspects Including the aforementioned magician vernon butts. Also, we're gonna bring kelly on conway down and she's gonna give some alternative facts here Well, I mean this wasn't putting vernon butts in the hot seat Not the worst idea because vernon butts had participated in six murders with fellow freeway killer william bonin I wonder if we had the same opinion where he's like, uh, randy's gross though. Actually, we're gonna get to that right now William bonin himself was not presented as an alternative suspect although the third freeway killer Patrick Kearney was and later When bonin was asked about his possible involvement in craft's crime. He was offended saying quote I don't cut the dicks off little boys

Oh god, okay, you know what congratulations In this world, you know the bar again, you really did it. You didn't you didn't do it. So you did it Oh, yeah, Patrick Kearney went on to say like he openly admitted to jerking off his own dog and Training him to suck his dick throughout his childhood, but he'd still say i'm not disgusting like randy craft Oh my god Well concerning a possible accomplice police never quite settled on a firm suspect But one possible suspect was john mcmallon who'd been under surveillance on and off for years Now it's thought that when did they turn it off?

Like once you're on surveillance at what point are they like we've surveilled enough we'll come we'll circle back I don't know I think when they just finally figure out like now there's not they get that the gut feeling There's nothing here. We've seen this guy's open asshole too many times. I really wish we can we stop the surveillance? It's thought that mcmallon was probably just a hedonistic counterculture figure who liked kinky sex But it is interesting to note that mcmallon killed himself right after randy craft was arrested Hmm another suspect was a small-time criminal named bob jackson Who gave an interview in which he claimed that he'd murdered two hitchhikers with craft and wyoming in colorado during the mid to late 70s

Authorities however were unable to corroborate these claims because there were no bodies to attach them to when we now we know A lot of times people confess to these crimes that they might not have anything to do with because if you're already in jail It gives you some cred It gives you like people then look at you like like you're higher up on the food chain and I know you enter into his lore in a way you become a part of randy craft story It also gives you something to trade like you got you also you get out of jail for a little bit I mean remember that was the whole thing with uh, henry lee lucas got his milkshakes to talk to that fucking nun Yeah, yeah

Now concerning the defense they were somewhat clever when they had the chance to be they refused to submit randy to Psychological testing which is routine in most multiple murder cases making the argument that testing the defendant didn't make sense Because he's innocent. Why would we? They did however agree to have randy's brain scanned and the scan Showed lethargic electrical activity in the part of the brain that dictates judgment an abnormally high activity In the parts that governed emotion impulse and sex drive It's interesting that he would go into computers Seriously, I mean, but also I don't think we need to scan his brain. I think we look at his everyday activity

And see all of this. Yeah, that is interesting though that they went that route that they scanned his brain That's interesting. I mean people we very much need to know like how does a serial killer's brain work? Absolutely And that and these see from the serial killer brains that they've scanned they see that same shit over and over and over again Well, but in the end randy's trial was the biggest waste of time and money in orange county judicial history 13 months and 10 million dollars And he was sentenced to death for all 16 murders in 1990 by 1993

Dennis mcdougal had published his book angel of darkness about randy craft and in turn Randy sued mcdougal and his publisher for 62 million dollars in damages Again staying in character. Yeah, like fucking we're going down. I am not going to be vilified by your so-called rag From Randy's point of view the book it smeared his quote-unquote good name And it destroyed any and all prospects for future employment Should his conviction be overturned? Hey, hey, randy craft if this podcast happens to get to you while you're sitting at 77 years old on death row Fuck you

You piece of shit. You fucked up. You're bad at it. He's bad at it. You're ugly And he's wow you went there. Absolutely. What a douchebag. He's still technically on death row in San Quentin No, I don't know at the age of 77 Is isn't everyone through 77? No, I'm just joking. You can live a long life. They say the person who's going to be a thousand years old might be alive today Yeah, our president 78 And probably the reason why he's still on death row is because he's been able to appeal each of the 16 murder convictions separately Again and again over the years spending untold amounts of tax dollars because the death penalty is for countless reasons

Dumb. It's just too expensive. He's going to die And you're gonna kill innocent people. There's so many reasons why he didn't get rid of the death penalty Again and these motherfuckers should sit and rot And they should be pastored by psychologists and scientists and he should be looking at the flesh of their stupid fucking brains And see what they do. Yeah. Hello, randy. I'm here again for another one of our videos Sexy Marcus, that would be nice. I was trying to go like German scientist, but I guess it didn't That's what he wants. He wants a German scientist. He needs to be a big busty woman Most likely randy craft will be able to put off his execution

In indefinitely in pursuit of a natural death just like Lawrence Bittaker Who lessened randy's death row bridge club by one when he died in 2019? I guess god got himself another angel And now kiss all I hope after learning all about this you can correct that tattoo To maybe something like brandy craft like some sort of independent new brandy line You can run something else just so you can just learn to just I mean turn some of the fandom down Oh, you agree. You can get in the brandy business yourself and change it to brandy crafter. See, oh, that's very good Well, I'm never helping out with research or ideas again. Um, I've been demeaned for the smallest amount of work. I tried to do

Thank you all so much for listening to this series. This guy is one of the worst human beings we have ever covered Yeah, probably I would say him like maybe if we rank him I would put him in there You know outward fish like the old school baddies that were covered like the original og villains fish like but he's in there Rock terrio. Yeah, I would put him close to that Jim Jones that we know because of his just because of the body count that he had Yeah, because he took nine over almost a thousand people with him. Yeah herald ship and still just a boring ass bitch I mean What are we gonna do with this? What are we gonna do? Well, thank you all so much for listening to the show and for all the shows

Um, I suppose because next week. So, you know, we're heading into some modern cult territory very very excited for this next topic Small cult small small boutique boutique. Exactly. Yes, but I'm very very excited to get back up into the cult saddle absolutely and uh, Jacksonville was fantastic Memphis and Atlanta y'all are beautiful people Well, I'll be Check out our comic book last comic book in the left z2. It is out there pre-order it. Um, I don't know when that's coming out Not sure either but go and pre-order that because eventually Spring of uh, 2022 is what I was always told spring hill jack coffee. We'll get him off and it's out there

We don't hear the commercial up top anymore But just so you know, we're still thinking about it And we're begging you to buy that fucking coffee because if not everything's gonna burn down Everything's gonna fucking fall apart ready craft style. We've been in and out So you got to be there getting that coffee And this week no dogs in space New series Yeah, the replacements. Oh, yeah. No, we're getting to know the midwest quite well on this one

Well, I feel like I understand you a lot better now Is it passive aggressiveness that drives you insane? Because that's what drives me insane the passive aggressiveness of I love the people but the passive aggressiveness makes me freaking nuts. It makes them half canadian. Yes The passive aggressiveness is definitely a part of it. But just overall like I in studying them. I feel like I've been studying you All right. Well, that's In some place underneath also comes back season two this wednesday. So wherever we're back up and saddle And of course check out top app or all the uh for the true horrors that's going on all around the world. It's just great to be alive

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