Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 508: The Incident at Devil's Den - The Monkey Men

Episode Date: October 8, 2022

It's alien time! This week the boys break down a classic tale of alien abduction with the story of former Assistant Attorney General Terry Lovelace, his 1977 abduction, and his lifelong relationship with a mysterious group of "monkey men" from outer space.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last stop on the left That's when the cannibalism started Taylor and Jenner $2,500 that makes sense now It's cause like 10 grand to get driving instructions Now I'm feeling you're loosening up me of course man. You're feeling the New York energy. You're over here You're in the New York studio. You're with me. It's kind of fun I've never been on this side of the camera and it's weird to see kissles so small Reverse telescope

You're good to see something pretty well small Yeah, especially oh through camera Yeah, there's nothing I guess you could put it up near the cup for scale But then you'd be doing that in front of Fernando our employee and then he'd sue you to you didn't exist series of things How are we gonna start this? Are we starting like that? Okay, great welcome to the last podcast and I left everyone I am Ben hanging out with Henry and hanging out with Marcus You're not

Hanging out I'm telling hanging out member zoom member when Jeffrey Tupin got caught masturbating on zoom we do The entire nation does yeah, you won't let us forget it today's episode. Oh, it's gonna be real exciting We're getting into UFO territory alien land I'm not quite sure but we'll learn together the incident at devil's den and no We're not referring to what happened with Henry on the toilet this morning. No, no because that was devil's living room But you're staying in New York City, that's what we call the devil's kitchen. Mmm. Yes breakfast. Nook. Yeah now guys Are you ready to allow some monkey man into your life? Why not today's episode all about is

Are you willing to greet these monkey men sure amount of respect? They need to be so that they don't Leave your shoes on tight Because you better be careful man One thing I also did learn from terry lovelace is that you better not sleep with your shoes untied Yeah, because you never know when you got to get up and not get arred by a bunch of monkey men in space Well, indeed I think those are prison rules the monkey man demonized by Wizard of Oz and I think we need to take the narrative back and Realize the flying monkeys can be friends as well. So let's get into it. Unfortunately today

We will be furthering the evil monkey man narrative unless you do believe what terry says later on that they were just masks Okay, but the incident at devil's den is a highly compelling UFO Abduction encounter told by one of the participants in said abduction in this case the participant was a highly respected lawyer named terry lovelace Esquire. I am a highly respected lawyer only with the name of a pornographic act Yes, indeed. I was driving down the street the other day and there's a street called Dixie Canyon here in Los Angeles And I thought that would be a great porn star name because it has dicks in it, huh and Canyon. Yeah Actually it could be both well it could be a man or a woman

I want if I'm gonna do porn my name is gonna be like Rupert Johnson A man's man, you know, it's like oh there it's guy herrington Richard Danforth That's perfect Well the source for our episode is of course the incident at devil's den by terry lovelace himself Which is as we'll get into over the course of this episode a classic tale of lifelong patterns of alien abduction This motherfuckers entire life was riddled with UFOs Monkey men little people praying mantis people got all sorts of stuff and doing all sorts of stuff with his jizz

How do you have the time to become a lawyer? It was intermittent Alright Well from what terry claims He's one of those alien abduction victims who have had to deal with alien encounter since childhood and not in the sort of sexually Adventurous way that say David Huggins of love and saucers claims to have experienced Yeah, cuz he's complicated because he kind of always is like I sure wish that maybe they had said something to me before taking my virginity Yeah, at the same time man, you had a big titted gray alien woman riding you just let it go

Just let it in and he painted amazing pictures because of it He did actually have one hanging on the walls here in the studio. We do Now terry lovelace rightfully sees his alien encounters as an extreme burden a half-century long nightmare That never seems to end and with few exceptions It is a terrifying and painful experience every time it truly did I just watched a really good interview with terry lovelace and he talked for a long time real long time and I Believe that he believes that something has happened to him Yeah, because it's true it ruined his life and he worked really hard to have a very composed

Legal life like he's a well-respected lawyer. He was a military man and all of this shit because there's something about those guys It's why it doesn't happen to me. It's what doesn't happen to me It's because I would just like that goes right in the bio. Yeah, right. Oh, you would love it Well, that's why it's never gonna happen. You want it biggest bookings if I get it abducted But for terry lovelace, I guess it really did like I guess especially in the 1970s if you tell a bunch of your fellow military officers that you've maybe been abducted and probed by a bunch of aliens and Slash monkey man in a UFO that it might hurt your career in the military Yeah, oh, they'll pin you down in the shower make fun of you a little bit

It'll be a nice as we talked about before the show farva like like ribbing there from super troopers Terry lovelace heard his lawyer career every time he would go and prosecute a case or defend a case lingerie he would wear and I always said funny Don't don't wear the lingerie. That's really interesting that you said that because it seems that I feel like if he heard that He might like old man. Jack. Yeah, he might old man. You remember when it was a buzz Aldrin Who was it? Who punched the it was buzz? Yeah? Yeah, the old man. Just come in Neil just from the shoulder the pop The World War two punch. I think it was Neil Armstrong that punched the fake moon guy and the fake moon landing guy in the face Yeah, yeah, why not now Terry's big abduction occurred in

1977 when he and his friend Toby went camping at a state park adjacent to the Ozark National Forest While they were taking time off from the Air Force and of course will cover the actual abduction later on in the episode But Terry kept that encounter a secret from everyone but his wife for 41 years and indeed planned on never telling anyone That all changed however when a fingernail sized piece of metal was found in his knee during a routine x-ray in 2012 That year when Terry was in his early 60s. He woke up and couldn't put any weight on his right leg So he went to the hospital to have some x-rays taken but after the technician took two x-rays He came back five minutes later and took two more then two more and then two more. That's a story of eight

That's exactly what I was just about to say for a total of eight good math Guess I'll actually showed yesterday. He has actually pretty solid grasp of common core. I got it pretty well figuring out our serious radio timing Yes, 64 plus 72 go go go go 64 plus 72 you would take the six that would be 72. So six minus 72 would be 57 Oh, no, I miss red. Oh, no, you're designing this airplane No, I'll get the answer to you later. Let me look at my phone here and Those are the tough ones and unfortunately turns out he only took eight x-rays is because he was jerking off to it. Yeah, oh Well the technician after taking eight x-rays he asked Terry if he'd ever sustained a shrapnel wound in the military because of course

Hey, you got a little tiny object in your knee But the mystery was that there was no evidence of scar tissue That's why he kept taking more and more and more something's not right here. Oh, yeah Additionally, there was a flower petal arrangement of objects the same density as bone floating in the middle of his calf muscle not good weird Grappulating from what we know about other mysterious objects found in human bodies This all points towards the possibility that Terry was a victim of alien implantation I know what I saw

But Terry it's interesting the concept of alien implants because we covered it on an episode a long time ago We kind of went over it But what still holds is that most alien implants are found by podiatrists and hypnotherapists almost like They might not know X-rays These are x-ray technicians here. These guys are true But we do have chunks of metal get pulled out of people and we don't know what the hell it is And but a lot of times as they go and they finally get it examined

It's not you'd expect it to look like some kind of crazy microchip, but it's more a very unique packaging of metals That are not necessarily found in the area in which the person that was suffering from the implant lived or worked. Mm-hmm Okay, I mean the thing about the Terry Lovelace stories I'll say this right up top is that you know I said I did say like this is a classic alien story because there are many of the tropes in the story that we see throughout a Lot of alien abductions But the thing is that I also believe that Terry Lovelace believes that all of this happened to him He has the eyes of an incredibly haunted human being. Yes very much so

So that does give the story some credence definitely not saying that's proof that this actually happened But Terry Lovelace, he's not a guy on a park bench Nudging you and the ribs asking you to listen to his UFO story this guy's legit. I wish you were all right We can always use a little bit more credence. Mm-hmm Hell yeah, but one must ask exactly when Terry received these implants because from what Terry claimed He had been plagued by alien visitations ever since he was a little boy back when Terry knew the visitors only as the monkey man Cool See Terry's visitations began in the early to mid 60s when Terry was only eight years old

So the image that we can all immediately conjure up in our minds for alien grays that was not yet in the public consciousness Yes, so Terry's young brain filtered these aliens as something he could understand ie monkeys Yes, or you because they were monkey-like in behavior. Mm-hmm. Okay jumping around jumping on the bed one fell down hit It said we know what they do Yeah, I'm gonna be very clumsy and but these aliens they get you jumped up and down and what you'll see like this is a common Thing amongst grays especially they love to hop they do huh? But from what Terry said he woke up in the middle of the night to see four gray two-foot tall monkeys

Oh large yellow eyes long arms and tails. Why isn't he just making friends with them? But it's just like they're like oh, what's a little weird-looking guy? It's kind of fun not as many people or as let's say allowing as you are Where you really have a strong threshold of what you sort of allow into your general reality. I just don't care about so much stuff Well after staring at him with broad grins for a bit The monkey men said without moving their lips quote I mean it was obvious that they were not speaking audibly. They were speaking telepathically. They said quote Come play with us. We'll have fun and we'll take you back home in just a little while nice

Of course Terry's parents didn't believe him, but after nights of Terry waking up screaming that the monkey men were coming again His father put electrical tape around his door to keep the monkey man out such a good dad quick fix Yeah, there we go. Yep, that'll do her right there. No way Strangely it worked for eight weeks all the monkey men tried a different approach One afternoon Terry said he was in his backyard shooting arrows at a bunch of big pieces of hay When a large silver shaped flat disc appeared 50 feet above his head making no noise The only indication that it was not a hallucination was the sudden smell of freshly mowed grass and ionized air Yankee candles Indeed is the smell of freshly cut grass. Is that a common UFO thing? I seem to remember reading that somewhere

It does come up. It does come up, especially just straight up in anomalous Like Experiences it does come up that smell like it might be something else because I think a lot of times I also hear the term Ozone yeah, oh, and then it might it depends on what it calls for you Yeah, I think it is actually ozone and not cuz I think I've looked it up and ionized air and ozone gets Confused a lot. I think it you have think you met it with the smell of ozone. It's cooking electricity Yeah, absolutely, and you know, you're having a good weekend when you're in the ozone That doesn't yeah, yeah, but yeah, man. I'm having a good week here except

I did watch that one video the guy that has what was it like 50 orgasms a day Wow life's a living hell Yeah, we can't control it which is he comes and he comes and he comes and then he's like he's talking to his reporter He's like My niece is And I'm coming why are we talking about that guy right now that's a whole episode Is he British can we talk about him during our UK relax? He's got he's British in spirit fantastic Well after about 10 minutes of this disc Floating in Terry's backyard it tilted upward and silently shot off nice a week after the sighting of the craft though

Terry's nightmares truly began with visions of shadowy figures grabbing him and carrying him away with many hands And then once he was carried away to another location He was held down by man-sized praying mantis like bugs His frightened pleas of mercy Yeah, that is scary he's right about that one I actually talked about this recently Um, I was interviewed by gothic beauty magazine. I know because you're quite the gothic beauty Everyone always asks me for tips and skits of how they could be more goth from the first thing I tell them wear sunscreen but

Um, but I was talking about the praying mantis aliens and about oftentimes gothic beauty magazine, of course sure All right, I'm not I'm not not me. Was that right after your polish pasty conversation that you're having? What? Of course the polish pasties to go over your polish nipples Yeah They put the pasties on their buttocks They're very funny. Wow. Oh, wow. Have you been hanging out with my father? But the praying mantis is the scariest of the alien subgroups besides the reptilians which are, you know, Parentally, I honestly now I'm certain to think that a lot of people are talking massive about reptilians

And it's actually the opposite. They actually are suffering from some form of intergalactic racism And I want to go I will bring that up in future episodes. I'm not totally against the reptilians at this point Yes, people have not been doing great. No, but the praying mantis are oftentimes when they're seen in these scenarios They're described as Nazi-like. Oh with their attention to devious detail Interesting. Yeah, they are scary for sure. Well, while Terry was obviously going through something His sister of course made fun of him for it. That's what's well. That's what they yeah That's what they yeah, so to get back at her he hid under the couch and waited until she was on the phone

Then he grabbed her ankle and she was so surprised. She screamed and wet her pants Nice. And it's fun that he put that in his book. Yep. That's called brother revenge You got her good. You could wait for years before your revenge finally plays out. Absolutely When Terry's father confronted him Terry said that he wanted her to know what it was like to be scared telling his father quote Spank me if you want, but you better make them stop it or else Jesus all right I'm four years old daddy I know you want to come over here and try to spank my ironclad little booty. I dare you

And you have at it let it clang away with your big old man to hands and your and your wedding band slapping against my middle butt But I'll let you know I know what I saw After that Terry said his relationship with his father was never the same. Yep. Oh Now over the next few months Terry developed both a fear of the dark and a fear of open spaces So he was taken to a doctor where he explained his nightmares or were they nightmares after all?

See now he's getting the doctor, of course blamed it all on cartoons watching too much space ghost kid Yeah, it's always I always fantasize the thing about space ghost, especially the original space ghost space ghost It definitely always being involved being like group assaulted by monkey men Well, actually I he's not too far off there lest he forget zorak my friend the praying mantis alien We now know the white washing of zorak Right, but he's different in the cartoon. Okay. Yeah in the original. He's much scarier Now things calm down for a couple of years after that

But at age 11 terry woke up in the middle of the night to find multicolored lights shining through his window And when he looked out the window, he saw another flying saucer shrouded in heavy fog Sweet This time the craft was accompanied by a low bassy Oh my god, sit on your speaker like the old Howard Cernshaw. Yeah. Oh, yeah Nice it's like a flaming lips concert. Yeah, like a son-o show. Yeah, I don't know who that is Someone good. Oh, yeah, love them. Yeah looking for the brown note Hmm the nightmares returned with images of the big insect-like things and in his words

They were manipulating tools with long thin fingers lucky another. I think about it. Yeah, he might have just been having zorak nightmares I mean How has anyone ever had a zorak nightmare? I'm sure they have. Yes. Yeah, I would imagine so but yeah Like you said we know zorak as like, you know, we know him as the funny zorak. Yeah, c-martin croaker You know, that's how we know that's how I like my zorak. Yeah But eventually though things calmed down again and Terry told no one about his experiences for decades. I'm not telling anybody for goddamn decades Okay He did however write a poem in high school recounting his experiences

Which Henry will now recite in part shadows from the hallway crept into my room Long the monkey men too. I assume Never before in life had I seen a creature that grinned before I could scream A candle's flame dances before it grows dim One monkey man shadow had slowly crept in on his knees and with ease He is perched on the edge of my bed if you please The silence was broken one inch from my ear as the monkey man whispered my boy. I'm right here Now monkeys were four and were master to see

Children are even grown men if you please I started to tremble and covered my head, but the monkeys all four They crept close to my bed and outside of my covers for peeled with delight these monkey men here Will take me this night Dude, that's really good. That's a great poem. I mean he does need to see the counselor because it seems like he's being molested But Dresses as apes It's a very good poem though. It's pretty solid. It's actually it's much longer than that. It's very very long

A talented guy smart kid. You can tell. Mm-hmm, but the kick cut. Yeah, he became a lawyer. I know maybe he went to tufts So where my brother-in-law went he went to tufts and he's very doing very well now, isn't he? He's doing great. He's doing wonderfully very well, but the kick comes at the very end with this final stanza I swear by all that is holy and all that is right The next time you come to take me at night when four little monkeys crouch near my bed I'll take my revolver and shoot them all dead Well, it's a little aggressive towards the end there, but again, he's got some issues You can't write a limerick or a poem like that anymore

Well, that's my This monkey man story is absolutely compelling Terry to tell me uh, do they uh, do they like bananas? The alien that was coast to coast he did do that. It's just like did you man everywhere? Did you tell me Terry? I don't mean to poke holes in your study here, but you live close to a zoo George snorey asking the hard question. He's asking accurate questions only critical the only critical thing I've ever heard him say on coast to coast because he's always yes, ending But he was just being like I simply cannot believe The monkeys would ever work in such a aggressive fashion

He's like he just refused to believe the monkeys can ever be very aggressive. I think uh, michael jackson's monkey bobo or whatever Yeah, he had to be put down. I mean he had to be well. Yeah because of all the fucking trauma experienced Yeah, everything he saw he wasn't a lot of tell anybody. What is this 1992? You're doing bubbles joke. Oh, yeah And he always was pointing at the kids going okay. Thank you bubbles Now the aliens stopped bothering terry for a while and terry eventually joined the air force But once again the aliens found him although it's hard to say whether this next sighting was about him specifically Or if it was just a fun coincidence, okay? See in 1975 terry was working as an emt and a medic at whiteman air force base in kansas city

He was working with a young senior airman whom terry named Tobias in his book incident at devil's den called him toby for short sure, okay? So one day during a routine emergency call terry and toby both came upon a chaotic scene of emergency vehicles And security vehicles with men crouched behind cars holding rifles shits going down Cool. Uh-oh Not just stopping terry and toby saw that the object causing the commotion was a black diamond shaped object A little larger than a full-size van hovering about 50 feet over a missile silo This is also very common. Oh, yeah, UFO sightings. It's the it's the matte black

Uh triangles pyramids diamonds and also sometimes a lot of times especially over military Bases the way they describe it a lot of uh spheres chrome spheres chrome sniffing around see what we got Yeah, well spotlight showed that it did indeed have a matte black finish It was non reflective and there was no sign of engines or propellers This sounds a lot like the so-called UAPs that we've been seeing lately in these leaked videos And this is something that he saw in 1975 And like some of those objects this object went from a dead stop to blinding speed and was gone in less than a second Of course when terry asked an officer

Hey, just what the hell was that thing the officer said quote guys guys guys guys That was an experimental helicopter. Okay Okay, I didn't see any blades. They're making any noise though. You're inside. Just shut up It's just all right. It's it works somehow. I don't know you think I know buddy Is that thing full of monkeys? Let me hear can I hear it? Well, am I hearing any chimp? Nope. Can't hear it chimps aren't monkeys Wow

Chimps aren't monkeys. They're just not let's just I'm just I'm just not there's a difference. Yeah, there is a difference. I know. Yeah, right? Oh, yeah, there is a bunch of differences Are you looking it up right now? Yes. Are you trying to fact check me if monkeys and chimps are different? Chimps monkeys I don't know. I don't know. Do you want you really want to do it? Let's see Fantastic marcus berks with the wind really good two years later though Oh, Terry saw another object that sounds quite a bit like the object I myself saw in high school while hanging out in a graveyard alone

Oh at around 4 a.m. Terry said that he and toby saw a glowing orb just below the north star That slowly traversed the night sky before it blinked out like someone flipped a switch Yes, which you hear quite often. Yes But despite all the weird shit happening out in the wilds Terry and toby decided to take a camping trip together at a place called devil's den near Russellville, Arkansas Well, that is actually where and then Terry was saying when he was uh, they were setting up this camping trip He was like, don't be asked me. Hey Terry, you want to go camping? First of all, you're goddamn crazy. It's the first time I've ever heard about camping from you ever once

Because he knows me. I'm a city guy. I'm from st. Louis Yeah, he was really like being like, why would I go camping? But it kind of sounded like toby was kind of angle and he's like, we should go out This is like, I know this place we can see the sky or it's all these beautiful stars Meanwhile, like Terry's like, you know, he's like, he was my best friend It was the best time we've ever we ever spent together was me and him holding hands watching the stars Having fun at the old devil's den with your buddy toby Yeah, well at devil's den both of their lives would effectively be ruined by what happened in the woods

Just like so many abduction victims before and after they actually got stuck in the 69 position It's very difficult. It's very difficult to explain to your co Why you're in that scenario where you're like, I tell you there was a these monkey men They left a series of banana peels all over the field and you know, I was spinning in the air We were running towards each other playing a little bit of naked touch football because what we do All right, you try to see how slippery we can get but it's it's more about avoiding capture But they are a fantastic defense attorney team because one guy stands on his feet He gives a nice speech and they flip around

They tumble and the other guy and it is they're really good if the cock fits you must acquits and you know You can imagine how the cock was fitting there That's great Now after arriving at the campsite Toby and Terry decided to take a hike before setting up their tent and all Oddly they stopped after about three miles for a rest and both of them fell asleep When they woke up it was almost sundown and Terry said that he felt disoriented as they both hurried back to camp Yeah, he said it was very compelling that he had never he was a young man. You didn't understand

He's just he's like I never slept in and you sleep. I was in the military. It's weird Yeah, I've never been on a hike and thought I'm gonna lay down and take a nap. They may have passed out or something And well, they won't see after hastily setting up their tent and a fire They settled in but noticed that while the forest had been just an hour before full of life There was now not a single sound around not even a solitary cricket or a frog Well, he did say like this idea that him and his buddy had a yell over the fire and the crickets Isn't that loud? No, it's never that loud. That's if he was saying he was like he was like, you know, because that was a thing

Is adobe and I we were just You got a scream at each other to even be heard over these frogs It could be loud if there's a bunch of cicadas around or something like that You would have to yell if you're in the middle of it. I guess if it is cicadas I mean a fire is not that I mean, let's just like burning down a hospital or something like That's the scream that loud The damn screams Yeah, sweep all these screams

But as the silence settled it was at that point that toby pointed out something in the sky There were three identical points of light sitting low in the western sky in a perfect triangle And as he and terry watched the lights got brighter and began to move Rotating while maintaining that triangular configuration The lights then climbed the horizon growing brighter still as they grew larger and sped up blocking out entire fields of stars This thing was fucking big Finally these lights, which were now very obviously a craft They stopped just over toby and terry's head

It was so large that it blocked out the entire sky above I've seen a couple of stories like many stories of sightings that sound just like this This comes up a lot. Just recently we talked with somebody about Sighting over new york city Like these are types of things that show up like they literally like well Like it happens in new york too weirdly like people have talked about seeing these. It looked like a pizza pie It looked like a slice of pizza That's a you know, they brown bro thing

whoa But later terry would describe this craft as resembling a five-story office building covered in brightly lit windows featuring Constantly changing colors and while it's not quite as large as the football field sized crafts others have seen It does sound similar to what was seen by dozens of people during the hudson valley sightings just a few years later I still kind of have a theory that somewhere the government has like three pyramid UFOs that they've had and then they ever once Wow, they just like fly them out. Yeah Just to see what happens. Yeah, you see what happens. Yeah, yep turns out they freaked out again Now again this large craft was covered in the same non reflective black matte surface

As the smaller diamond object that toby and terry had seen a few months before but for some reason toby Decided to communicate with the craft And he flashed his flashlight three times towards the sky toby. Don't be such a toby. What are you doing? He's just a problem if you'd invited toby. He's gonna invite the aliens into the tent. Oh god But they he said that when they were watching it It was tumbling in a way like he said he watched it move and for him He felt that it was doing it for his benefit. Ah Yeah, toby's like that friend that when you meet the weird guy on the camping trip the weird hippie

That's alone toby's gonna be the guy that invites him along and then you got to deal with that guy for the next two days turtles great Yeah, he says he gave up his last name because the government's a series of liars. So but yeah, he's coming. Yeah I gave him all of our medicine to hold That's great Well instantly after toby flashed the lights a beam of light the size of a softball Focused on their dead fire pit and after a few minutes a blue pencil thin light struck the campsite actively and hypnotically darting around the area never sitting on anything for more than a few seconds like a cat toy

Yeah, oh nice It seemed like it was looking for toby and terry because it did hit them a couple of times and then after it hit him It disappeared and after they were hit. They both felt a pleasant feeling of sedation. Oh Both of them unable to stay awake Crawled into their tent to sleep oddly not caring all that much about what was happening This is interesting. Henry. I wanted to ask you about this the book incident devils then used a term called alien apathy Have you ever heard of that before? Uh, I I've never heard that specific term But that's kind of what they talk about

Well, there is a sedation effect. They say that when you are abducted as you'll do as we'll cover Is that a lot of times they show up? They you know, the often the scenario is they see a light something weird in the sky They're oddly fascinated by it shows up the entities coming to the room a lot of times They they they're very peaceful. They're trying to calm you down. They're saying don't worry. We always do this Everybody loves this and then you go like, oh, yeah, I do love this and they talk about how you sleep You basically in a kind of half-sleep state like that's when you travel through things you travel up through like the light Allows you that you're traveling in to break all laws of physics. Oh

But when they went to sleep That's when the true terror began. Yep Now terry lovelace, of course blacked out and he had no real idea of what happened to him that night until he later went under Hypnosis all he knew that night is that when he was woken up by lights He heard the same low base hum. He'd heard during encounters as a child every bone in his body ached and he was dreadfully thirsty Yeah, he said he was the thirst he has never been in his life and then he posted but to main Oh my goodness, but what that's it's something on the internet I've seen people say that but to me. You know what I learned off of the internet today throw goat

Well, someone who's super good at sucking dick. I mean, I feel like that's a self-explanatory Yes, it is He loves it Toby however was already awake and he had been crying He was breathing quickly and shallowly and it was trying to peer out of the tent But all they could see was these flashing multicolored green and yellow strobe lights Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have flashed the flashlight there Toby. It is Toby's fault Yeah, but Toby's like, we know if we can't go out there, man. I rang the doorbell, man

Geez Suddenly though the two men realized that there were people outside of their tent at least a dozen Well, he was very scared at first because they had to go They so where they were was in a restricted area of the national forest where they were at So they had to go pass a bunch of like no trespassing signs Because again, Toby had a spot where they could be super alone and watch the stars together And so you need to go out there. It's fine to just go out and watch some stars with your buddy Sometimes it doesn't have to be like that

Yo, I know All right, well Marcus is reliving his college experience But no, I say you went out there so at first they thought they got us my god, they found us They thought that it was like park rangers and shit coming to kick them out. Mm-hmm Well a column of white then put yeah, wait a minute So he thought it was a bunch of park rangers with flashing strobe lights This is terry trying to piece it all together after the fact Okay

Well a column of white then poured from the dead center of the building sized aircraft and a pillar 30 feet in diameter and terry and toby saw Little people Perhaps those not unlike terry's childhood monkey men Oh, yeah, he said the way they looked is that he said that their legs they were like They were like in the field like being weird right like being fun working in remote Like they used to they kind of walked like they were programmed to walk together But he said their legs look like they were hinged to go backwards so they had no knees

So they were like like, you know like when that you see kermit the frog run. Yeah, yeah, and it's really unsettling It's like that. Yeah, where they're just they kind of float and they're like I can't really see my act up. It's like a doll Where the legs kind of kick back and forth, but they slowly trotted into this light That was there and they went and they pixelated away. Oh cool. Yeah, people can't see the act out, henry for the 11th year in a row They can hear it Once the last being was gone The light switched off the craft stopped making its low vibrational hum and the meadow was once again

Dead silent the craft slowly gained altitude, but instead of tilting and shooting away like they usually do It merely ascended like a hot air balloon until it could no longer be seen. Yeah, it's like a hot woman showing off her butt How's that slowly sauntering down the street? That's right great great impression And a woman You have an idea Now something had obviously happened between the time the two men fell asleep and the time they woke up terrified and crying But all terry had was the vague memories of images and sounds

He remembered the whirring noises heard inside the large mothership Senses of motion and visions of ceilings and wall panels He also had the vague suspicion that he'd seen not only other craft inside the building sized mothership But dozens of other humans milling around not afraid at all alien government Co-conspiracy working together retrofitting technology putting in our phones giving us tiktok. Why don't know? Perfect. Absolutely. You're on the path of to get shot by the cops as we talk Henry If only Well terry also noticed that his boots which were previously tightly laced. Oh, they were now unlaced

And his socks were crooked And his friend Toby's boots were in the same condition. Yep Their bodies ached they felt sick and they were both as we said insanely thirsty. Hmm nothing untoward Nothing at all After deciding to leave they made it to a gas station and terry and toby noticed then that they were both Badly sunburned all over their entire bodies with no tan lines at all. See that's interesting very common in alien encounters Very common and a common and high strangeness of all kinds. Oh, yes We talked about this earlier

We're talking about in the live show too like the idea that there is a sickness associated with the phenomena That the government is very actively interested in figuring out how to gain access to and use for their own good Also very common on the beaches of brazil Well, yeah, they know tan lines. Yeah, absolutely. But these guys if they were tanning I'm pretty certain that they were wearing clothes. I'm pretty sure And both of them were also covered in what appeared to be insect bites little red bumps But their main concern at that moment was thirst and because I don't think they sold bottled water At gas stations in the 70s. No, they definitely didn't I remember the first bottled water I ever saw it was stunned. Yeah

Like a capture the ocean In a bottle It's kind of like that. Is this all water? Yeah We've normalized bottled water way too much. Yeah, we have so what talby and terry did Well, the reason why we've bought normalized bottled water so much is because most of us in america can't drink the water that comes out of the faucet You got to toughen up your immune system. You got to do one ounce a day Then you do two ounces and then you're strong like bow. Um, the first actual sold bottled water was in 1767

Fantastic, but not at gas stations. No, because you know why there were no gas stations back then You're fucking moron. Yeah. Where was it? Where was it? Also? Who the fuck knows? You tell me how the water historians apparently the most boring people that have ever lived Yeah, I study water It's kind of interesting water. It is actually no actually it's bottled water So anyway, they fucking bought a bunch of orange soda. Well actually toby bought a six pack of orange soda Uh, no, yeah toby bought a six pack of orange soda terry bought a gallon of grape soda And they just that's not gonna that's not gonna quench the thirst though. It's too much sugar

I don't know. Maybe their bodies were depleted of sugars Perhaps their bodies craved it like some people crave salt Now once terry got back to the air force base He had a temperature of 104 and got checked over by a nurse who found after photographing his seemingly diseased body That there were 124 red spots covering his skin As his practice for the air force when someone shows up looking all weird They gave him the obligatory Once over with the geiger counter. Yeah, see if he's irradiated. Yeah, and there was many click click clicks

Yeah, he got literally he was radiation burned. Yeah from something. We don't know And I know that his wife corroborates this. Yeah, they did go to the hospital He said that was the most embarrassing thing is that him and his body they drove away and it felt It was kind of like oh, it's scandalous Kind of because they were both like they didn't they felt weird about what happened They had no clue what happened and he dropped off. They felt they've obviously felt violated in some way all fucked up And he was like so he dropped off toby. They're both like So yeah, and then like he went home and his wife was like you have to go to the hospital

Like you're very hot. You're physically very hot and you are pink. Yeah, you're vividly pink Mm-hmm and covered in bites weird bites weird. We're bites way more. Let me play just play a game of mushy pig Yeah, I'm pretty pink when I play game of mushy pig I want to know what mushy pig is If you take a soft old pig and you try to make it How do you play mushy pig More mostly kind of lingus Well after two days in the hospital going in and out of fever dreams

Two men in business suits showed up in terry's room and introduced themselves as agents of the osi The office of secret intelligence, which was an actual sub branch of the cia They presented terry with papers to sign that terry couldn't even read because his eyes were now swollen shut Oh my god, I've just got to sign this shit Wow But after a fair amount of vague threats they told terry that if he knew what was good for him He'd never contact toby ever again. They made him break up with his friends. Yeah. Oh, that's horrible Horrible. Yeah, they also told them never mentioned to anyone what happened that night at devil's den

Me and toby were just seeing the stars or something gay about it I talked to my old friend is the gayest straight man. I know and he said that it's cool This is what guys do. It's a purely platonic relationship. You just do you can do things with your male friends You can't go hang out. You don't have to be so insecure about it. That's right Yeah, I texted you at 9 p.m. Kissle. It's like I'm gonna go to a field and go look at some stars You don't think it's not gonna be weird I well Yeah, cuz it's us you can have friends that you do have that relationship with yeah, sure. Yeah

Henry you city boys. You don't know I don't like grass Yeah Afterward terry was discharged from the hospital and given a 14-day prescription of mystery pills Odd generic capsules no telling of what was inside. Huh? Now terry did take the pills for a couple of days But found that he soon couldn't remember even the simplest things it was obviously scrambling his brain So after only three doses he flushed the rest Against the agents orders terry then decided to see toby's no one's gonna tell me if I can't fucking hang out with my friend or not

Friend yeah toby was in the middle of an alcoholic spiral cool That's a cool friend. Yeah, it's just gotta tell us like yeah, his life was Absolutely destroyed. Oh, yeah Toby desperately asked if their encounter at devil's den had really happened Did it happen terry? Why were our boots different? And terry told him yes, it did indeed occur But after he left he never saw toby again, you know what now that I've seen him again. Uh

Actually, I don't want to be friends with him. No, he's all weird now When terry returned to work at the air force base He was given a task that seems to me like a low-level sigh up He was told to paint plywood work benches Then was given the task of sanding the paint off the work benches. He just painted. Oh, yeah He did that for two months Well, if he had taken all the pills he would have been fascinated Yeah, that's true take all the pills. Yeah, you wouldn't notice it's kind of nice to paint and then grind it off

And there's something fun about it. Well, uh, you know, it's again or just keeping them busy. Mm-hmm keeping them busy Absolutely after those two months terry was called to osi headquarters. Although. I always say headquarters I don't know if osi had a headquarters since it's a sub branch of the cia It could just be in some room somewhere in virginia and then you just have to go through that with some hall in the pentagon Yeah, no, it was it was a small beige room at the end of a long hallway blind with steel doors It's a terrifying place very scary. Yes there. He waited for hours until his commanding officer finally showed up Along with one of the osi agents who had come to intimidate him in the hospital And yes, I know osi is a cartoon organization. No

No, it was also it was also very much a real organ a real sub branch of the cia But there's also the air force special investigative unit, which is also labeled on the osi They it depends on how you look at it Every branch has a group every branch of the of the military has like Basically their own version of both internal affairs And because that's what it's all about is investigating from the inside out. Mm-hmm Eventually terry was told that he was about to undergo hypnosis with the assistance of medication MK ultra somebody needed information

Well after terry weakly protested No The other two men were joined by a mysterious figure carrying a small kit in a leather bag. Let us see what is going to happen Oh, no Yeah, it's always a little secret nazi. I know Terry was then injected with an unknown substance and put under hypnosis. Although terry does maintain that he stayed conscious the entire time Because he what I had to have been Because he did remember enough to write a whole goddamn chapter in his book about it. Well, and no way did he just make it

Hey Well, it's hypnotic. Well, we know that hypnosis is not necessarily the most reliable way to recount information But it's very interesting what comes up, especially if it's super specific But I wonder if uh, it's isn't it true. Maybe I'm core incorrect, but if you Do go through hypnosis you do kind of have like subtle memories, right? I don't know because I do know that every time that we've talked about like hypnotic sessions like say with the woman Was it the andresan? You know, uh, Betty Betty hill also went through a fair amount of hypnosis

They always recorded it and the people if I remember when they come out of it. They're like, what happened? Yeah, like what happened? I went through memory that something did happen. Yeah I went through hypnosis and I'm no longer gay. You know if you excuse me. I have to go have sex with this man Well from what terry claims the ceo known henceforth as brad He'll drag things out. I hate that. There's something about a brad ceo like that's just a pain in the fucking age You can see the butch haircut. You can the flat top you can shoot all John ham from the from the new uh, tom cruise. No, john ham is too round-faced I think a brad is gonna he's gonna pinhead. Yeah tight tight

You're thinking a brad dwarf. That's the brad you're thinking of a real tight pinhead Yeah, I love him. Yeah, I'm not a pinhead, but he's got a thin head. I love brad dwarf. He's one of my favorites I want to meet him. I want to meet him. So maybe think of the guy as brad dwarf Maybe we'll put brad dwarf in this role as the hypnosis cast Well, this ceo apparently drug things up from terry's subconscious mind things either forgotten or repressed Things that terry maintains were his objective experiences Now terry claims that some combination of the sedation and the half-hypnosis opened up his memory and once he said these things out loud He claims to have never forgotten them because he fought through the sedation like a fucking teenager taking an ambient. That's what I do

That's why I can't take sleeping medications because you fight through them a fight. Yeah, and then you I rage And then I fucking Yeah, can't wait till you get on twitter one fateful night Oh, yeah, you'll see that's why I just logged out. I don't really do that. So I'll never have access again During the hypnosis session after telling the story all the way up until they arrived at devil's den terry said that the space people as he called them They told him and toby where to go And after being sedated by the blue light terry said that they were both taken

Although toby was only taken once for a very long extended session while terry was taken twice Apparently they took terry the first time when he and toby fell asleep on their initial hike That's possibly why they fell asleep. Possibly they were sedated by the aliens and that's why terry woke up feeling so discombobulated That time apparently that wasn't all that bad Second time that was when the real work got done. Yeah, these aliens They like you too. We talked about the trickster side of the phenomena if this is indeed a thing that does happen Then they like to fuck with you. Yeah, like there is something about them doing some kind of constant test about how we react To what they do. Mm-hmm

See these space people were the same so-called monkey men from terry's childhood and terry was now realizing as many people do later on in life That they'd been abducting him for damn near his entire life. Oh, yes And they uh, he then remembering it realized I think that they were wearing some kind of mask That looked like a monkey. They literally like that was one way he interpreted it Was that like maybe they were wearing something that they felt maybe would make them look more because aliens do that too They shape shift a lot of times So that's where the guy needs to be more comforting

Like they think might it might be more fun for a kid to experience a bunch of monkeys stealing them in the night Yeah, I mean, I guess so Yeah, and again, you know him saying that I fought through the sedation and I remembered the half hypnosis And I was abducted my entire life like it stretches the limits of credulity, but it's very interesting I like there's something the fact that it's hyper specific. Yes very interesting It's hyper specific and it also shares a lot with other alien abductions And some of the craft that he claimed to have seen matches the craft that we've seen In videos in which we absolutely know like that is a UFO. That's a thing

We do not know what that is. So there's corroboration even if not every single thing in here is true There is still some corroboration fucking reality against the fucking ropes All right Rub it upy Well in those childhood abductions terry said he was taken into a sort of flying city a hundred times larger than the building sized craft It was so large. He said that he couldn't see the end of it It was so big that he had to be shuttled through the thing in golf cart like conveyances Whoa, like I always saw ozzy. Oh, yeah, they put him in that humiliating little cart. He got put in a wagon. Yeah

Yeah, to go talk about a pinball machine. He's 80 years old. No, he just needs a wheelchair He just needs a metal ass wheelchair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they put him in a cart instead The cart's fine. It's great. We're out of trouble for everybody. He looked like he was a bunch of watermelon he is When terry was a kid he said that he was actually taken somewhere nice with other children who all played together And there was a lady there the entire time Taking care of them and terry remembered the lady fondly But that doesn't mean that terry enjoyed it. Yes

He began to realize that they'd taken him multiple times during his childhood But made him forget But they still left an inkling of memory So he would recognize him when he grew up and learned to see them as his quote-unquote space brothers Yeah, oh nice But in this terry came to think of it as a grooming process with unknown alien goals Absolutely because they're not telling you what their goals are like if this hybrid program is real

They are do not we don't know why they have insinuated many things and various entities have talked about the hybrid program Is used to either allow their offspring to be more stable in our reality There's like that one thing or just seed us with alien dna that will allow us to Evolutionarily grow up grow past the need for things like nuclear weapons and oil and fake butter Oh But when terry was asked what the monkey men looked like terry got a little angry saying don't be asinine They look like monkeys. You fucking moron. You're fucking moron. All right terry. Let's calm down, please I know what I saw. Oh my

And then he said that the monkey faces were actually masks Yep, and when they took the masks off. They were in fact little gray people with large eyes It's always been me your neighborhood gray But they uh, he said the the eyes is that it's not as cartoonishly as they've seen that you see like normally the way wittly Streeber Uh, it's great and they actually look more like wrap around sunglasses. Oh very cool. Very guy f Yeti A roast as dark as the night Perfect for fueling the cryptid research and mad ravings required for your podcasting. Don't mind the red eyes

He's just trying to warn you of the bridge the bridge Finally from the caffeine addled brains of spring hill jack coffee and last podcast on the left Bre bring you moth men's red eye blend. Yes Yes, delicious Panama beans go to last podcast merch.com to order yours today Now once terry and toby were on the ship they realized that they were inside the building sized craft that had appeared above their camp site Apparently this craft held not only smaller craft like the black diamond they'd seen on the job But an actual support staff made up of 50 or 60 humans all wearing tan colored flight suits with orange insignia Of rank and interestingly to this terry co said quote son of a bitch terry

You'll forget about the men in tan flight suits Not me if this is all true points towards the possibility that the co might have knowledge of a joint alien government project And considering how he said son of a bitch Son of a bitch on one side of a cold war between a branch of the government that works with aliens and another branch That believes that working with the aliens is a bad idea. What do we get from it? I don't know Who benefits don't know queen bono. Don't know Sounds like he was just tripping balls at target I don't know

We don't know But after walking past the support crew terry said that he and toby saw a long well of aquariums filled with what he thought at first We're swimming puppies. It's puppy. Oh, no puppies can't swim like that though. No, no, no Now when he looked closer, they were twitching reptilian creatures with big eyes floating in pink water, and they're cute to somebody Yeah, as he walked by more aquariums. He saw that some of them housed human-like creatures One of them turned towards terry and blink But after that hall of horrors terry and toby were ushered into a steel sort of waiting room It seemed like steel, but it's aliens who the fuck knows it was filled with other people

Some of these people were nude holding their own clothes. Maybe they were going through security at the airport There were however windows and terry said that they were definitely in space by this point Flying near the moon. You can see the goddamn moon. It's right there. It's outside the goddamn window Yeah, he looked down at the moon and he saw a city on the surface of the dark side of the moon fucking yeah Yeah And the moon city was populated not only by aliens But also humans who were living and working side by side see we can get along Oh, we gotta learn to fuck. We gotta find out what holes go to what parts. Yeah, bro

Absolutely. I bet you it's quite similar to be honest I always wanted that on star trek because every alien species seems to be fucking Every other alien species. It's fun. It's part of what it's the universe propagating its own life I do find I do actually find myself We watch a lot of star trek in my home and I do find myself More often than not just staring at an alien and wondering what the genitals look like you see because that's usually American That's what americans. This is why if you're a wife out there never say honey, what you think about like what you're thinking about No, that's it. Oh, yeah

No, no never anything Like I it's thinking how much I love you. It's like no no no it's been like, where's the pussy on that? Yeah, they got two bottles of two or three maybe one I don't know This was told to terry all this shit about the moon city and all that by a tour guide who was there to help terry through the experience But terry's experience not bad But terry soon realized that his tour guide was the same nice lady who had watched over him during his eight childhood abductions Yep. Oh very sweet. Yeah, she was a half alien half human a hybrid

This actually tracks with other abductions We've heard about because hybrids are often used by grays to take care of abducted children Or to be a sort of less freaky liaison for abductees Well, also a lot of times pure humans are used to nurse some of these hybrid babies because according to People that have experienced these types of abduction scenarios what they have learned Conversely through whatever they could figure out is that they are watching humans are there to sort of like give compassion to these aliens That don't particularly know how to emote. Yeah, and that they also give milk And so they go in and a lot of times they're forced to nurse some form of alien hybrid baby

That's always non and they always take Yes, indeed and I'm sure they have the ability to suckle Is that a slight against me? Yeah, I think that was a dick against you. Yeah, it's because I'm too human to suck tit Not for milk. I only do it for pleasure please Well concerning this hybrid Terry said he felt a maternal attraction to her a maternal attraction meaning she Mummy. Yeah, not a maternal attraction. Yeah. Yeah, not like oh mom's stuck in the washing machine Again and again and again

And while he did like her she was still an unsettling creature. Oh, yeah She eventually gave him a hug But he said when he looked down into her gown to peek at her breasts, which he said was natural It was a natural thing. You just naturally. Yeah, I used to always do that with my mother I was a cleave check Let's say cleave check Well, he was not specific about what he saw But he said what was down that shirt was non-human and repulsive. The titties were upside down

Whoa, it's guatto But this hug did calm him down a bit. Yeah, that is nice after the hug though Terry was somehow back in the tent trying to scream but making no Sounds it seems like it was a bit of you're doing an act out of him screaming, but not making no 11 years It's really good really good act out Everything terry said was silent except for the home of the spaceship and toby was nowhere to be found presumably He was still on the ship

Another bright light came and terry was back in the ship in that room with all the other humans being undressed by the Greys do you remember the coronado group abduction? Yeah, it was like the one guy it was the poor dude That was just a mark of the aliens and that one guy he was abducted with that other guy And he just sat there watching as they were shoving stuff up his penis and like and he'm going They're all like the other aliens are like You guys are really struggling over there. You see I really be enjoying this. I mean while like he wasn't probed. No, not at all Now after terry was undressed he was taken to a white room where he was laid down on the tell tale alien

Experimentation table alongside toby. I think he was next to toby. It's hard to follow Yeah, there's some dream logic here. We'll see what's here. But yeah, I could definitely if I saw the table I'd be like no fucking way Is that Wait a second. Is that the Alien abduction probe table. That's the milking table. Okay. I've been gaping all day Oh, his body went limp as multiple aliens did the bidding of the boss alien The one as you said that was a little more official who was insect-like. Yes

Oh, terry also said that the smaller aliens were almost robots worker bees and that tracks with what we've heard about grace In other abduction scenarios, you know the different classifications the the small graze some theorize might be robots We do learn. Oh Sure The examination then came where the aliens drew blood from terry and toby's body And of course used a machine that was put over their genitals Yep to suck the sperm from their bodies painfully and humiliatingly as both terry and toby scream Because they do it it makes you so hard that it hurts and then you're crying against your will. They're just it's not good

Yeah, because you're coming through a flaccid penis which can't be fun I mean sometimes but it's only just because you've been spitting all day Work sitting thinking about it We're saying what yeah, you can come through a flaccid penis No, I don't think so. Yeah, you can't absolutely. I guess you can't I mean if you're one of those guys that comes when they're just touched But but you mean back and forth depends on how long you've been going at it All right, I guess so Hey, am I an alien?

Well the guy that was uh the guy that comes a hundred times a day his name is dale decker Ah, they should have just why don't they just abduct dale decker? He'll give them all the come they need. I have extra come already Well from what terry said the demeanor of the tallest alien the insect-like alien the one who is directing the semen sucking in the blood sucking His demeanor was hey Not personal guys Just do my fucking job. Just do my job. Just doing your job. Absolutely. Also just a quick quote here from dale decker another man That needs to be abducted imagine being on your knees at your father's funeral beside his casket saying goodbye to him

And then you have nine orgasms right there Well, well your whole family is standing behind you They gotta get dale decker. They gotta get dale decker Well, basically, this is the old trope of experimentation reverse. These are aliens Dispassionately trying to learn about our anatomy through experimentation Just as we do with lower life forms here on planet earth And like humans who don't enjoy the sound of monkeys screaming. We hate it. The aliens got Annoyed when terry screamed and he told terry come on. You know us. You know, you're not going to remember this

Relax. Yeah, I said if you're not going to remember why should you scream? Well, you get a scream all the time screaming like you haven't like we haven't done this countless times to you They should have a little statue of human beings then thanking us for all of the scientific research They do want us like they have with the little mouse. No, there's definitely a statue somewhere in alpha centauri to all the humans We've drained. Yes Then the alien touched terry's temple and all went black Next thing terry knew he and toby were back at the campsite But because the beaming crew screwed up they were about 20 feet away from their tent

Oh, come on. We've got to get back ships over They were laying on the ground next to their cars So the aliens had to come in and manually carry them back to the tent Yeah, that's gotta be difficult for them. They're just like us aren't they? Yeah, and that's where we rejoin the story with terry aching and toby on his knees crying over What had just been done to both of them the ship rose up in the air like a hot air balloon and that was that Back at the hypnosis session though the co After terry spilled the beans. He was trying to make terry forget that anything had ever happened. He said quote. Okay, listen

Hey, you and toby you went on a camping trip to devil's den and it was a horrible trip. Yay today You both were bug bitten. You were sick. That's all over now. All right. All you will remember is our pleasant chat About camping. There's nothing on the moon, but rocks. There is nothing On the moon But rocks you forget about the tiny woman who was kind to you Everything you saw hurt a devil's den you will forget That's it. Wow. Talk about middle manager brad. All right fine After that terry did indeed try to forget

He told nobody about his experience save for his wife for many years But even then things came back in flashes In 1987 terry and his wife were out christmas shopping when terry had a panic attack After seeing the cover of a book that showed an illustration of an alien gray wittly strippers community And that's it set off Thousands of people. Yeah, it was the first time that he'd ever seen the representation of the alien gray And of course his specific so-called monkey men terry also had missing time incidents like when he went out for a ride on his hog

When he suddenly found himself on a gravel road, which he never rode on because it damaged the paint on his bike When he arrived home, he found that he was two hours late two hours missing time his wife was freaking out and called a cops And ship it's like two hours late. That's not that long not 1989. Yeah, it's fine Yeah, when someone's out on a motorcycle you worry you do you worry a lot Sheila however was all in when it came to the encounters. Yeah, whenever terry. That's a good wife. That's a great wife Whenever terry talked with her about it. He had nightmares in which he'd wake up screaming But one night Sheila said she woke up and saw a three foot tall woman standing at the edge of their bed sell the rupenstein

Wow Three footer told Sheila And she did no problem. Okay But after the alien implant we discussed at the beginning of this episode was discovered High strangeness slowly began to seat back into terry lovelace's life starting in 2016 That year terry mysteriously started losing weight dropping from 240 pounds to 150 Baffling doctors. Was it cancer? It doesn't sound like cancer. Yes. No baffled doctors because they thought baffled doctors They thought oh this dude's definitely got cancer. He's got cancer

But he they were baffled but he didn't This prompted terry to tell everything he knew and he even tried reaching out to toby to corroborate his story What are what toby's up to toby's dead? Ah toby died. Now. What happened with toby alcoholism? Oh Was it suicide then or well alcoholism is belongs Like yeah, but sometimes you get drunk you pop yourself in the head something like that or wasn't just the he just drank enough to kill him Of the liver. Yeah, something like that. You can you can kill yourself with drinking in all manner of ways

It doesn't have to just be cirrhosis both my father's father and his grandfather died of alcoholism Wow, that's why your dad thought he was going to be dead, but he's never going to die. No, it's crushing Yeah, now by 2017 terry had decided to take his show on the road Telling his tale at various ufo conferences around america He did the circuit before he wrote the book which i'd give him credit for i've said true But about a month after a talk at a conference in houston terry woke up in the middle of the night sweating Oh god sitting directly across from him was what appeared to be a four foot tall asiatic woman wearing oversized sunglasses That obscured her large almond-shaped eyes and part of her face

Around her throat was a red scarf that hid her pencil thin neck, but otherwise She was a woman in black you can Very cool. Is that cool? There's a whole book one day will cover all of women in black is actually massive There's a many of them. Absolutely. Remember uh, Uh, freddy classy blasty. He would call people. He didn't like pencil necks. Oh, I love pencil necks. Yeah, like pencil neck

I like four eyes. Yeah four. Oh, that's good. Good one. Yeah Now like many people in black she wore a wig An outdated jet black number sitting slightly askew on the top of her head Is this right did I put it on right? Hey, harriet harriet. Is it on right? Yes From what terry said the wig was reminiscent of betty rubble from the flint stars And so he called her betty But her immediate thought upon seeing the pib was quote that wig looks ridiculous

That's what's so crazy. Yeah That wig can't I can't believe no netting However betty as she will henceforth be called she responded telepathically by asking so you don't like my hair It's the same And when terry asked the same as what she responded The same as the last time we met Whoa, that's scary She told him that yes, she was the hybrid. He'd been seeing his entire life

The one who took care of him as a child and the one who gave him the tour of the ship before they sucked out all of his blood and Come remember when we sucked out your blood and all of your calm. I do. Yes. It's kind of why I'm traumatized Yeah, yeah Yes She then said that he would not be taken that night nor would there be any more examinations ever Then she removed her sunglasses to reveal large But not alien gray large black eyes. Yes, but still she's like freaky. Yeah Just freaking her out

Yeah Well, once she looked appropriately scary betty told terry that his public discourses that he'd been giving ufo conferences about his experiences These were worrisome to both terry's government and her quote-unquote hosts interesting Adding that the things he saw were crucial to their shared shadowy agenda What are we getting out of the government alien fucking combination? What are we getting, huh? Let me know Yeah, what are they getting more importantly? That's what I want to know more streaming services. Oh, no Oh god

Are you ready for disney discovery netflix amazon plus? Yes. Yay Can't wait terry asked about the implant next asking how many people have been tagged in the same way terry had been tagged with the metal object in his knee. She said thousands over three generations She said that the implants do indeed serve a purpose but cause no harm Could be a locator attack could be Or just could be some sort of what are they calling like a fit bet? Yeah, we got you

Yeah, it's just sending back information They scoop you up once they read your cum levels that are a certain like mark and then they were like that's how they know to come Squeeze you Interesting like an oil check almost. Yep. Yeah But since the aliens nor terry's government would allow terry to remove it by himself Scientists discover its purpose because he did get use of his leg back But he left the implant in because then now there's a lot of kind of criticism of like why didn't you take the implant out?

And he was like because the alien said no. Yeah, don't do it. Okay. The alien said We'll do it. Yep. I hope he has alien insurance No, that's actually the most scariest thing of all is the bill afterwards. So then you have to go fight You always have to fight them too. It's not necessary to remove it. Please. Oh, it's it's an optional surgery It's an optional surgery. Yeah, it's cosmetic Well terry then asked why the government would try to stop him from removing the implant But while she did not reply verbally she nodded In a graphic replay of not two but four alien encounters played out in terry's brain

While two of these encounters were shared in terry's book the devil's den The third bet he said Was just for him and his wife. Oh That's nice The fourth though was beyond terry's understanding and apparently there will be a full discourse on accounts three and four After terry's death Sweet Soon after terry woke up with pain in both of his knees and dark bruises showed on his legs

He soon got another x-ray but found that the metal implants were gone and all that was left were two small wires Serving an unknown purpose. Absolutely incredible. Very fascinating. I love this story Please if you if you've ever experienced getting an implant. Yeah email side stories lpotl a gmail.com Because I'd love to know if you went through the process of getting it removed if you went through it and because it is really interesting It comes up quite a bit in these stories and people have found chunks of weird garbage in people and we don't know where it comes from Yeah, and so that's why I find this story, you know, it's it's very interesting And again from a reputable source that waited until he was no longer a high powered lawyer to tell it Yeah, and that's just like his retirement present to himself. It was a bit fooling a bunch of fucking dumpy ufo

People incredible. I can't wait to do it myself. Have fun with it. Also on a side note the the d character here again dale decker Um, so what happened is he suffers from persistent genital arousal syndrome after a disc slipped in his back He just started coming. Yeah Be careful. We're a back. So barely it's something to do with a disc slip And then he was on the way to the hospital and then he just started coming a whole bunch God, and then he they say here. He's been pretty much horse He's a real true story that we should be covering he and his wife have to sleep in separate beds He comes so much. Oh, well. Yeah, my god. So he's I'm gonna tell Natalie. She's got it easy. Yeah

Yeah, that's I'm gonna tell my wife the same thing. Yeah, at least I'm not coming constantly Screaming about it Oh, well Uh currently I believe so I mean technically me and you are a new york city in benzin, los angeles But we're also currently in Amsterdam. We are currently in Amsterdam and I just want to say gudentag and donka Right. Uh, both of those are german works. German. Those are german greetings. Things are gonna be fine over there. You just said good Good day. Thank you. Things have already been fine since we've been in your yeah in Amsterdam 600,000 people. They speak in dutch That's all that's the that's all the amount of people that speak dutch is 600,000. What that's it. I think so

Anyway, I heard that one time now. We're just making now with the no, I think that is true. I do think it's true Um, but again, don't worry everyone. You're doing better than terry You're doing better than toby and you're doing better than dale decker. Yes. You are really matters And yes, it's been fantastic here in Amsterdam. Henry did something really funny where he drank so much. He fell in a moat Oh, yes, I'm still getting out of the muck off me. Yep. Yep. And then marcus was kicked out of the heineken factory for just really falling in love there Yeah, he loves heineken. I love I love green bottles. Yeah, everybody said that about marcus He's famous for loving heineken and as the new leader of amsterdam. I promise you spread the wealth around Yes. Oh, thank you guys. We'll see you soon. Can't wait. All right next week. We're getting creepy

Oh, this was kind of creepy. We're getting even more creepy. Oh, even more creepy because we're covering phantom coming syndrome I know that was interesting. All right, everyone. Hail yourselves. Hail Satan. How do you mean? Magus Dalatians. And me and dog Which is good. That's goodbye in dutch. Dog dog dog dog dog. That's nice This show is made possible by listeners like you thanks to our ad sponsors You can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listened to go to last podcast network.com