Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 53: The Toybox Killer

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

David Parker Ray, one of America's least known yet most brutal serial killers, has his sexually sadistic crimes explored by the boys.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last stop. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Yes, please. Thank you, mister. Yes, please. Thank you, mister. I don't think that's acceptable. What do you mean? That's not a song? I don't know. No. You are my master. Thank you for owning me. Thank you for purchasing me. Marcus are we recording? Yeah. Alright, that's Mark. It's not bad.

And then we got that guy over there. He will never, never, never get back. It's Taylor Swift, everybody. Hey guys, can I tell you why Jake Gyllenhaal doesn't love me anymore? Taylor, what did you do to him? I think, um, I just think that her vagina makes fart noises. I'm sure that it does. He's got to be something horrible. Oh, absolutely. Because no one can continue to date her. No, no, no. She's the number one pop star of the decade.

She's an idiot. And no one can date her. She is not a very smart person when it comes to like social situations. I feel bad for her. That's right. And you're also... No, I don't. Henry Zabrowski. That is Henry Zabrowski. Hey, what's going on? So Henry alerted Marcus and I with another shocking email. That's right. Hot off the disgusting presses. We got an email and Henry was searching around on 4chan for serial killers. He discovered... I wasn't sure. Well, it's a problem. Let's start with...

Let's start from the very beginning of this. Okay, serial killers are in the news right now. Obviously, there's the Crazy 8 Killer happening here in New York City, which I'm sure has been covered on New York City Crime Report. Yeah, kind of. We won't get too much into it. Very boring serial killer story. Extremely boring. I've seen the headlines on the post day in, day out. I keep picking up the paper hoping for some sort of salacious detail.

Just a crumb of something that we can use. Nothing. It's just some dude going around blastin' middle-aged Middle Eastern man. It's just really strange. And now we've got to... Because all of the suspects are also horribly named. You've got the John Doe duffel bag, John Doe bubble coat. And then Jane Doe green jacket. So clever writing. There's supposed to be punny, I thought, over there at the Daily News and the New York Post. Yeah, I thought, come up with some snappy names.

Come on. Come on. It's like Mr. Belvedere and like Ronnie Ronny Run Run. Bacon bags. You never know. Maybe there's bacon in his bags. Think of a story. Make up a story. Add some sass to it. That's all you do is make up stories. Anyway, so Henry uncovered a real serial killer. And I'm not going to lie to you. It's the most disgusting serial killer we've ever heard about. His nickname is the Toy Box Killer.

And his full name is David Parker Wreck. Now you may have heard of this before if you're one of the more depraved members of our listenership. But that's the thing is that I had barely heard of this guy. And I thought, I was like, literally, I did not know I could reach the bottom of my serial killer knowledge. I thought that I was the guy to look to for serial killer information. And then this guy just comes shooting out of the stratosphere. This guy is from the minor leagues shooting his way up to the fucking majors. Immediately, we're talking dimer caliber, top five serial killers.

I didn't know about it. Which makes me feel like someone was hiding it from me. It makes me feel fucking paranoid. Nobody was hiding it from me. Who was hiding it from me? Well, people were hiding it, though, and it comes down to market. This all takes place. Everything that we're going to talk about today took place in truth or consequences, New Mexico. And that's the thing is that you just got to stick with the old Mexico.

The old Mexico is just so much better. You know, the old Mexico, you got your tacos, you got your floutas. You got your beheadings. You got your... Now you got your cocks and stuff them in the mouth. You're talking about New Old Mexico. I'm talking about Old Old Mexico, where it was just Mayans and tacos and just... No, I think you're mushing together some history here.

I'm just saying... I think you're mushing together a couple hundreds of years. I have a specific perspective about Mexico and what I see of Mexico because I went to Mexico once. Cozumel, my cruise ship landed there. And then I had lovely quesadillas to sit over there next to the beach. So you have a white Floridians view of Mexico. Cozumel is beautiful.

I'm sure it represents Mexico. But then we've got this New Mexico that's filled with toy box killers. David Ray Parker. I love New Mexico. So let's just clarify why they call him the toy box killer. Marcus, I know you have a lot of information. I have a ton of information. Why don't we get into the...

Let's set the mood with what... We will never, never, never... No, no, that's not a mood. You need to get a new bit. No more pop stars. I'm making a decree right now. No more pop music. I hate having no more pop music.

That's a problem. As soon as you say this, as soon as you put one rule on someone like... That's me, who is as free as I am. Someone who is like an eagle on fucking weed, a weed smoking... A weed eagle. Can you just get back to racism? I guess I could. You can always dabble in the darker parts.

But I started with racism. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He already did racism. So now he's just got to go to phase two. Get something new. Get some new shit, man. What do you want from me? I want something new.

I'm not just an endless supply of bullshit here. Yeah, you are. I want to hear about the toy box killer. So what's going on here, Marcus? Well, I'll set the mood. All of this happened in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico, which is in Central New Mexico. I choose Truth.

Jesus Christ. Well, Truth or Consequences, spooky name, right? It is a spooky name. Do you want to know where the name comes from? Yes. Originally named Hot Springs, the city changed its name to Truth or Consequences, the title of a popular NBC radio program. That's stupid.

In 1950, Ralph Edwards, the host of the radio quiz show Truth or Consequences, announced that he would air the program from the first town that renamed itself after the show. That's so stupid. It's because people in New Mexico, they thought that was God talking to them. They're like, that rock making noise. Welcome to Parks and Recreation, Indiana. Come on down here, Amy Poehler, so you could look at our Dairy Queen. Oh, God, welcome to Monk, New York.

Do we have to go after Monk? But these murders where the toy box killer David Parker Ray, where these actually happened, were in Elephant Butte, New Mexico. It's Elephant Butte, or Butte. It's Elephant Butte. Elephant Butte. Marcus really gets upset about this, by the way. He does not like us misusing the term Butte.

It's B-U-T-T-E, and you're dumb enough to name your town. It's like a malt shop. When you spell it with the two P's in the E, you still call it malt shop. You don't call it malt chup. Yes. Well, in Elephant Butte, what it is, I'm not going to call it Elephant Butte. That's fine. I'm not.

So Elephant Butte is a man-made reservoir. And just like any other man-made reservoir, any other body of water in a desert, drifters start popping up all around it, setting up pop tents, setting up trailers, and setting up tiny little houses, just like our man David Parker Ray set up this horrible, I saw a picture of the place, it's this horrible, flat-roofed place in the middle of the desert, and next to this flat-roofed, horrible, horrible domicile is a trailer. Now, my question is, is this like off-the-grid area, where no one owns these lands? You can just set up shop?

It's more like a national park type of situation, because David Parker Ray was a mechanic for the parks department. So this man had access to all sorts of lawnmowers and hoes and rakes. That will actually come into play later. But he also had access to miles and miles of abandoned land. And all around this area were abandoned caves, abandoned mines, abandoned soap factories. So that's one angle on the horror situation, you have isolation and you have terrain that you don't know anything about.

Absolutely perfect setup for the serial killer, looking for no little funny, nosy neighbors. That's right. Because that's what Dahmer had a problem with, all his neighbors were all like, what's this smell? Why are people screaming in Filipino? Why are you walking around and mumbling yourself about making fuck zombies? I know, Dahmer needed to get his life together, move out to the suburbs, get a nice house. I can't believe he tried to pull all that off in an apartment.

I was rewatching the documentary where Dahmer was sitting down with his father, kind of talking about why he is who he is. I didn't remember he was sitting over here. Evolution did it, by the way. We talked about this. That's Dahmer's big excuse. Last night too, after Holden brought it up, because Holden is a mini Dahmer in training. He was watching the documentary, I rewatched it and him talking about like, yeah, I didn't

really want to kill him, but you know, and then I tried to put us in their brains to see if, you know, I could make them zombies, you know, but that didn't work, so. I just wanted to watch, I just wanted to watch the Packers game and drink a couple of big guys. I didn't necessarily want him to die. I just thought that we'd be like friends or, you know, but, you know, you just pour a bunch of acid in your brain. Well, you know, then I'm just from Wisconsin, so I just rolled him up into a bratwurst.

Oh, I needed a bratwurst. A little brainwurst. I used to call it and laugh a little bit to myself. Anyway, back to David Parker Ray, who is really, by the end of this episode, I think you can make a decision for yourself, but he might trump Dahmer. There's a little bit of background information on David Parker Ray, speaking of fathers. I can't even, I can't believe you said something like that. I know Dahmer is our champion of all serial killers, as we've talked about before, and

I'm telling you, DPR has got a good, good second run in going right now. Well, David Parker Ray was a severely neglected child. He was shuttled between family members all throughout his childhood. His father, who was a truck driver, a bit of a drifter himself, would show up about once a month with a huge bag full of S&M porno mags. Cool. And we're not talking like classy kink.com shit here. We're talking like...

Over-the-road truck driver porno. That's all you have to say. People understand exactly what that is. Yeah, because kink.com is new. Just made S&M porn fine. Yeah, yeah. Like just now. Just now.

It's very controlled. Okay, so let's go into some details. So we have a shitty house next to a very nice trailer that he spent over $100,000 to make. Yes. We're building towards this. We're going to see, we're going to spell out the tale. We don't want to spoil this precious gift.

And so this man, he was obsessed with pornography, all of his life, specifically S&M porno. Different than us. Much different. I hope so. I hope so. We're into his very, I guess it's different, right? Yeah. Tell me it's different.

I mean, I've heard that the black cheerleader orgy that I watched last night is much better than the S&M porn that this guy was watching. I think so, right? Yeah. They were just trying to win the cheer competition. Oh, that's fine. Yeah. That's fine.

The cheer competition. If it blow on a couple of dudes, it makes you do it. Watching a stepmom help her young stepdaughter make love to her boyfriend properly is a thing that's all about building community. I only watch pornos where at the end the woman learns to read, which I always think is really interesting. It always has to have a nice educational art. And it's boring.

That is very boring. Well, it gets crazy. You're saying it's just two people just sitting naked learning to read? Yeah. Yeah. And then I don't even have a computer. I just stare at my window at the school. Yeah.

And he went. This is bad. David Parker Ray. Keep in mind, first of all, that all of this was called. He's got three names. First of all. Yeah. First of all, David Parker Ray.

And remember that when he was caught, he was 59 years old. That's right. He had been doing this a long time. In 1999, too. Yeah. This is very recent. Yeah. Yeah.

And he was married four times before he found the love of his life. He's a lover. Cindy Hindi. Her name is Cindy Hindi. Yeah. Is Cindy Hindi? Is Cindy short for anything? No.

No. No. No. My name's Cindy. My name's Cindy. Let's just call you Cindy. Yeah, Cindy Hindi. It's a good doctor Seuss story.

Cindy Hindi. How are you? I hope and rape a girl. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Cindy herself had a horrible childhood. She was molested at eleven, and when she went by her stepfather.

What happens? You have a Reiman name. Yeah. Reiman name is just a detract molestation. So Cindy was. Billy Billy got fucking. Got his hardcore. I knew him growing up.

Yeah. not, couldn't be left alone by adults. My name only kind of rhymes so I got sideways molested all the time. Marcus, Parkus. Just a couple of dick slaps. So Cindy Hindi. That was sideways molested means I was wondering what is sideways molested exactly. It just would have naked man runs past you very fast. You just clip, you get clipped on the shoulder with the head. I think I was just sideways molested. No one's gonna believe my tail. So she, when she went to her mother saying like mommy, mommy, stepdad molested me. The mother chose the stepfather and kicked her out. That happens every now and again. Yeah,

that'll happen. And then she was a failed coke dealer. She was also a violent sociopath and she met David Parker Ray while on a work release program for domestic violence at Elephant Beauty. Elephant Beauty. My question is, what did she look like? She had kind of a, she was blonde, long blonde hair, had kind of a, okay, all of the women involved in this, they were trashy in a way that only existed in the late 90s. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, right. Especially in New Mexico, they were all... We'll call it the Tanya Harding effect. Yeah, exactly, yes, absolutely. It really is. Like they were back when like trashy women could still be skinny without the help of meth. Oh, they were just, they were just, you know,

had the huge hair... Just used to constant aerobics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's kind of the women that you want in your mind. Most of the women were blonde, couple of them were dark-haired, but Cindy Indy herself was blonde and somewhat skinny. She had a, yeah, but she had like a full face... Party animal. Definitely a party animal. I got both kind of pants, stretchy pants and sweat pants. And it is interesting that you mentioned party animal because these people, David Parker Ray, he chose certain people to surround himself with. Specifically, he chose drunks and drug addicts because they were less likely to remember what happened the night before the next day. And I'm sure he liked his, he did his fair

share of both. He's lost it up a little. Oh yeah, absolutely. Man, he must have had such a good party for so long in his terms. We'll get into what a party is a little bit later. I was saying, but they're so long, they were just hamming it up. So now let's expand the accomplice list to two more people. Jesse Ray, who was David's daughter from a previous marriage and her boyfriend, Roy Yancey. Did they all fuck? I don't know if they did. I would not be surprised. I can neither deny nor confirm that. Thank you. Thank you, Bill Clinton. Yeah, no doubt. But you know what? I would say no because David Parker Ray, reading some of the transcripts and seeing that, I think he had limits. Yeah, I think I don't

know how you got that out of these transcripts. I think his limits were very far, but I think he would have drawn the line. But at the same time, he was just trying to help his daughter into into his career. Yeah, he definitely raped his daughter. He raped his daughter. Yeah, well, maybe, maybe not. He's no longer around to ask. That's right. No, it's not. I almost feel bad talking bad behind his back. That's the thing. So his daughter, Jesse Ray and his wife, Cindy Hendy, they're much trash. Yeah, so much trash. Jesse Ray, Cindy Hendy, Roy Yancey. You get in here on the double Roy Yancey. Yeah. And Roy was a bit of a sociopath himself one year. Yeah, I think the consequences they had to cancel Halloween

because Roy and a gang of his friends went on a rampage around town, strangling cats and flipping over gravestones. They cancelled Halloween to me. Sounds like you had a hell of a Halloween that year. So the bar that all that that a lot of the victims were brought from a place called the Blue Waters Saloon, full of drifters, cool, just filled to the brim with drifters. I've never been to a drifter bar. They're scary. I mean, yeah, you just you're not a drifter. You don't want to go to one. You don't mean you don't think me showing up with my Evangelion shirt on and my Batman hat would do well at a drifter bar? I know. I think I think you do great. You'd end up chained up in somebody's fucking sweet

torture chamber in their toy box. Oh, God, I'd make them laugh, though. Mm hmm. You would make them laugh. Make them laugh. But it's like the same way that people laughed when you had your mustache. Like you wouldn't actually say anything and they would just like. Yeah. Yeah, we had to cut it. Never mind. So let's get to the victims at 513 Bass Road, the domicile of the toy box killer. Now, so we'll just get into the sweet meat of this. Yeah, this thing. What makes now this is the this is the fucking I don't fear the reaper of David Parker Ray. This is the fucking, you know, until it sleeps. Yeah, I don't know why I even thought of that song because it's creepy until it's unsettling video, which was only unsettling because you

saw Lars Ulrich all painted in gold and there was no reason for it. There was. There was a large. That was a bad, a bad era for Metallica, although that video did get in. That video did get me into Hieronymus Bosch. So there's that much. That's what they did. That was really good. Good imagery in that. So David Parker Ray, in order to fully extend his fantasies into reality, spent a large sum of money over $100,000, built it, building a secret torture dungeon in the trailer next to his home. This thing was a rock solid torture house that he had mecca of torture for no one to escape from and no one dead. It's about the size of a double wide. No, no, it's about half the size of a double wide. It is a single one.

It is pretty fucking insane inside. It was equipped with a series of torture devices like Marcus. Give us some of those devices. There was one that he made. It was a DIY breast shocker. Do it yourself. Breast shocker. Yeah, he made it. Did he get that on Etsy? No, he made it himself because remember he was a mechanic. So a lot of the torture devices that he had in this room were trained by the government, by the way. Yes, another great job government. He had them all homemade. He had a leg stretcher. My favorite part, I saw, because the whole thing was extremely well organized and there was one of those little metal signs hanging up next to all the tools and it said, I'm rather busy. Would you piss off? Oh,

yeah. And he had that sign. There was the other one. If they're worth taking, they're worth keeping. Yeah. Yeah. And he had some flair up there on the wall. But yeah, it was very TGI Friday. He said, however, his favorite sunglasses on going like, hey there baby. Yeah, there was a kitten hanging on from like a fucking cliff. And his hang in there kid. But his favorite toy out of all of them, the gynecological chair. Now this gynecological gynecological chair would sit in the middle of the room and above it was this giant mirror and in front of it was a video camera. And he would videotape everything that was happening to the girls that were would wake up strapped to this gynecological chair. And it was positioned in a way so that they were looking at the mirror

so they could see everything that was happening to them. Right. So that's what the room looks like. That's what the room looks like. And it also has wood paneling on the walls. Wood paneling. So it was classy in the 70s. Yeah. So these women are kidnapped. They're drugged. They wake up in a random place. They may or not be gagged. And then he would play a transcript. Now this is where horror movies meet reality. This is a totally true scenario. These women would wake up and they would snap awake from being drugged. The idea is that they would snatch them and they would drug them and then they would wake up naked tied to these chairs. You can just imagine that fear. You know. Yeah. Usually they'd roofie them in the blue water saloon like honey you're drunk.

You need to get right home. Yeah. And then he would take them back to the toy box because he called this place his toy box. And they would wake up to a tape playing of a David Parker race speaking. And when I read about this originally I was like holy fucking shit. Like that was the first thing I was like you mean to like really like this is what happened. So I did some digging. It's saw. Yeah it's saw. It is literally saw. And I did some digging and I found the actual transcript from the video. I could not find any audio because they destroyed the tapes. They gave the tapes to one of the victims families. And this is the other thing too. I don't know if we need to follow up with some more details of the fact that he was never even convicted of murder because no one

could find any remains. They were the only reason they got him on like these like we can talk about it. Well I've got a lot of the sentencing information. I want you to. Yeah. We'll get once we get into the sense that you're tied to a chair. You've just been drugged. You're hung over your drowsy. You're tied to a chair. You might be gagged. These are steel chains holding you down. You wake up and this is what you hear. I mean I would expect you know what you should do as well if you're if you're alone in your house. Right. Do this. Take off all your clothes. Right. Do it. All right. Well that's getting creepy. Take off your clothes. Sit in a chair. Tie yourself to it with some rags. All right. Jesus. Hopefully you've smoked a bowl. All right. I imagine

put yourself there. Mm hmm. It smells like metal. You are you are strapped to a chair and wood panels and you wake up. Your first thing I imagine it's a little cold in there. Oh definitely. Yeah. You're entirely naked. You don't know where you are and you hear this voice. Hello there bitch. Are you comfortable right now. I doubt it. Wrist and ankles chained. Gagged. Probably blindfolded. You're disoriented and scared too I would imagine. Perfectly normal under the circumstances. For a little while at least you need to get your shit together and listen to this tape. It is very relevant to your situation. I'm going to tell you in detail why you have been kidnapped. What's going to happen to you

and how long you'll be there. I don't know the details of your capture because this tape is being created July 23rd 1993 as a general advisory tape for future female captives. Now you are obviously here against your will. Totally helpless. Don't know where you're at. Don't know what's going to happen to you. You're very scared or very pissed off. I'm sure that you've already tried to get your wrists and ankles loose and know know that you can't. Now you're just waiting to see what's going to happen next. You probably think you're going to be raped and you're fucking sure right about that. Our primary interest is in what you got between your legs. You'll be raped thoroughly and repeatedly in every hole you've got because basically

you've been snatched and brought here for us to train and use as a goddamn sex slave. Sound kind of far out. Well I suppose it is to the uninitiated but we do it all the time. It's going to take a lot of adjustment on your part and you're not going to like it a fucking bit but I don't give a big rat's ass about that. It's not like you're going to have any choice about the matter. You've been taken by force and you're going to be kept and used by force. What all this amounts to is that you're going to be kept naked and chained up like an animal to be used and abused anytime we want to any way that we want to. You might as well start getting used to it because you're going to be kept here and used until such time as we get tired of fucking

around with you and we will eventually in a month or two maybe three. It's no big deal. My lady friend and I have been involved keeping sex slaves for years. We both have kinky hangups involving rape, dungeon games. We found it is extremely convenient to keep one or two female captives available constantly to satisfy our particular needs. We're very selective when we snatch a girl to use for these purposes. It goes without saying that you have a fine body and you're probably young maybe very young because for our purposes we prefer to snatch girls in the early to mid teens sexually develop but still small body, scared shitless, easy to handle and easy to train and they usually have tiny little pussies and assholes. They make perfect slaves.

Anytime that we go on a hunting trip we can't find a little teenager really start hitting the gay bars looking for well-built big titted lesbian. I thoroughly enjoy raping and screwing around with lesbians and there's not as much danger than carrying a sexually transmitted disease and I don't like using condoms. Also even though they're a little older unless they've been playing with dildos a lot they still have tight holes between their legs like the younger girls. All right well that's a great little sample there nice diverse he's not homophobic very good to hear and there'll be more coming up later. Absolutely all right so that's what you wake up to and that's what you hear so let's get into what did his accomplice do let's talk about Cindy Hindi what was her role exactly

or do we want to start going into some more of the sex party type things. Well let's uh let's actually now that we've got that mood set let's go to one of the victims Kelly Garrett. Kelly Garrett was a woman who was uh taken and this works into your question she was taken from the Blue Water Saloon by Jesse Ray who was one of her friends. This is really just house of a thousand corpses. Yes. I mean Rob Zombie must have heard this story. Oh yeah yeah oh yeah absolutely so Kelly Garrett gets into a fight with her husband she goes to the Blue Water Saloon to try to drink away her troubles Jesse Ray roofies her drinks say like honey why don't I need to take you home. I mean did she win or lose the fight with her husband well like if you find out here's what

happened is that she goes off with Jesse Ray and then she blacks out she only starts getting and from then on she only has flashes of what happened but doesn't really know three days later she comes to like just out in the middle of the know of nowhere have no idea what happened to her she goes back to her husband tells her husband what happened he doesn't believe her kicks her out and never forgives her and the woman yeah and the woman like moves away from truth or consequences she doesn't know what happens to her until years later but we'll get to that but that's also very important but we'll get we'll get to we'll get to how she found out found out later the next one and by the way the only ones that we're going through right now are the ones that they were

prosecuted for because there were a lot of there were a lot of there was no evidence they know when no one ever found any bodies are the ones that they had to murder there was there was evidence but there was no like they used ultra they were going to get to the two they use MK ultra techniques in order to wipe their brains right like they wipe these people's memories yeah which is pretty much just raping drugs yeah that's what it is yeah and they would drop these bodies off hundreds and hundreds of miles away they really took their time to scatter the bodies so that's why they had nothing but time exactly they had nothing but time and space no one was coming after them in any way shape or form they were working in total isolation and then we brought this up earlier there was a

discussion on the facebook page we were talking about like and it's true there are over 50 active serial killers at any time something I guess is probably happening right now yeah and you know and they're probably listening to this and that's why we talk about these things stay stay prepared people stay vigilant be strong so we have victim victim number two here victim number two Angie Montaño Angie Montaño was a single mother who had moved from Albuquerque out to Truth or Consequences to try to get a fresh start after a bad marriage she was friends with uh Cindy Hendy Cindy Hendy brought her over to the house drugged her bashed her over the head put her into the toy box they tortured her there for five days she remembers everything like oh yeah yeah

she doesn't like she actually and she pleads with them to release her like listen I've got a son let me go back to my son and David Parker Ray said you know if I'd known you so nice I wouldn't have kidnapped you she's like that's it that's like the scariest thing that's like the worst it's almost like damn it you know why you gotta be why you gotta stop yes I'm smiling come on I was just gonna rape you and torture and then you gone and warmed my heart why are you gonna do that why you gotta make my heart go three sizes that crazy all right this ain't a goddamn Grinch and so Christmas I'm trying to rape you bitch yeah and I think that out of here yeah well I think this is the first time you bring all them presents back to Whoville on your way out I think this is

the first time that they had ever kidnapped and abducted somebody that they knew right it was a friend it was a friend of his wife's so they took her which is why obviously drifters tend to be the targets because if you don't know these people you don't know their backstores it's much much easier to torture and rape them exactly so they took this woman and they drove her up I 25 a couple hours they dropped her off she gets picked up by a cop right tells the cop the story and the cops like oh shit we have to go report this he's like no no I don't want to go to the police I don't want to go to the police for some reason she had a huge irrational fear of cops so she was probably I mean if she's friends with Cindy Hindi I'm sure she had meth you know in her system yeah I do have had

some sort of like past with police officers so the cop but when she says like no I don't want to go to the cops the the guy's kind of like well she doesn't want to go there's not really much I can do and plus and she doesn't want to go she kind of seems a little crazy anyway so he just drops her off next like near her house doesn't even drop her off at her house just close to her house 48 hours later that woman's right the fuck out of truth the consequences goes back to Albuquerque absolutely I think that would sour truth or consequences so how is that so how was it a truth or consequences oh this is great dip oh yeah she was weird she talked a lot about the dip she didn't answer any questions questions she was crying I don't know yeah anyway whatever and then for uh the third

victim Marie Parker this is the one that uh Roy Yancey comes in on she's uh another drifter she was living in a puck tent uh by on elephant but so it's almost like elephant beauty I like it's almost like you know she got like a little house mm-hmm that's almost nice yeah it's almost nice I was the tent yeah yeah so Roy Yancey kidnapped her uh took her uh to Ray's house and they tortured her for a few days and then Yancey killed her and helped uh David Parker Ray dispose of the body uh and then they say you never they never found the body when they were all caught the he told the police where the body was David Parker Ray had gone out and moved it afterwards yeah David Parker Ray is a smart motherfucker and an evil son of a bitch yeah now let's go back you want to go back

a little bit more to the tape let's go a little bit more to the so this is um this is now a section that describes he's been more fully what they're going to do and him describing how uh how that he gets away with his crimes and you can get the full transcript online of course it's it's very repetitive so it's this is a good sample of yeah pretty much will get all of the gist of it it is 11 pages long yeah it is a long but he liked to hear himself talk he loved it it was his favorite favorite radio one again sit down in a chair you're transported back to David Parker Ray's toy box your pussy and assholes gonna get a real workout especially your asshole because i'm into animal sex also both of those holes are going to be subjected to a lot of use with some rather large

dildos among other things and it goes without saying that there's going to be a lot of oral sex on numerous occasions you're going to be forced to suck cock and eat pussy until your jaws ache and your tongue is sore you may not like it but you're fucking sure gonna do it and that's the easy part our fetishes and hang ups include stringent bondage dungeon games a little sadism nothing serious but uncomfortable sometimes painful just a few little hang ups we like to use when we're getting off on a bitch if you're a young teenybop or an ignorant about fetishes and deviations right again in a lightning crash course in six who knows you may like some of it it happens occasionally we want to take the time of the trouble even under these conditions

most bitches can be brought to orgasm now i've already been told you that you're not gonna you're gonna be here a month or two or maybe three if you keep us turned on if it's up to my lady we'll keep you indefinitely but personally i like variety a fresh pussy now and then to play with we take four or five different girls each year depending on our urges and sometimes accidental encounters basically i guess we're like predators occasionally some sweet little thing will be broke down inside of the road walking bicycling jogging anytime an opportunity like that presents itself and it's not too risky we'll grab her now i'm sure that you're a great little piece of ass and you're going to be a lot of fun to play with but i will get tired of you eventually now if i

killed every bitch that we kidnapped there'd be body strong all over the country besides i don't like killing a girl unless it's absolutely necessary so i've devised a safe alternative method of disposal i have plenty of bitches to practice on over the years so i've pretty well got it down pat and i enjoy doing it i get off on mind games after we get completely through with you you're going to be drugged up real heavy with a combination of sodium pentothal and phenobarbital they're both hypnotic drugs will make you extremely susceptible to hypnosis auto hypnosis and hypnotic suggestion you're going to be kept drugged a couple days while play with your mind by the time i get brainwashing you you're not going to remember a fucking thing about this

little adventure you won't remember this place us or what has happened to you there won't be any dna evidence because you'll be bathed in both holes between your legs with thoroughly flushed out you'll be dressed sedated and turn loose on some country road bruised so we're all over but nothing won't heal up in a week or two the thought of being brainwashed may not be appealing to you but we've been doing it a long time and it works and it's the lesser two evils i'm sure you'd prefer that in lieu of being strangled or having your fucking throat cut all right well there's that one well almost reassuring to some degree hearing that you're not going to be murdered necessarily i suppose so like if you're a young actress you could consider like you're playing

a role that's right a very serious serious role well to get a little bit into the inside of this guy like the the mindset of this guy he was a sexual sadist classic sexual say oh yeah and that he can only yeah and like Jackie Gleason kind of sex yes but he can only get off when another person is in physical or mental anguish and the more physical and mental anguish they're in the more he gets off uh and i was watching i i watched a great uh show on this guy and there was an fbi profile that uh described what a sexual sadist is uh she said like in the morning you get up you blow your nose you throw your tissue uh you throw a tissue in the trash can if you leave the house and go to work the rest of the day do you worry about that tissue is that tissue like on your mind

what happened to it how it's doing not at all i don't care that's how that's how these people see their victims just absolutely nothing oh yeah yeah yeah they don't give a shit yeah absolutely not and of course i'm sure you guys picked up on the exact mk ultra was in full effect here with especially with that part and he's working for the government i wonder i wonder what branch of the government he was a fucking landscaper for was it for the black ops because they have gardeners they have very short grass ravencroft had a had a fucking like candy man you know what i mean like they had a janitor that was there every day they had a guy who brought the coffee who like delivered the paper cups and the paper every day like two mk ultra because they

fucking burned through a shit ton of copy paper oh yeah and how much toner how much toner we burned through you gotta have a direct supply line and these people every day delivery men to the damned these people are just as culpable if we could find these ups people who've been delivering to these companies we could get to the heart of the matter we should dress up as ups i like it in tam k ultra we'll figure out but no you bring up a good point the the world is larger capers the world is larger than just david parker right i mean they used to throw sex parties at his home as well so really i mean how many people overall do you think knew about what was going on here in the toy box a groovy 13 yeah a hot 13 sweet 16 something like that

i mean more than just the four people that we've spoken about already had to know because they would throw large sex parties and henry's gonna end up reading a read part of the tape about what those were like very very soon do you want me to jump right into now could we do that in the part of the tape do we go into the consequences can i read something uh like a fit like the most fearful part of the tape that i think of oh yes yes yes no i think like this part of the tape like before it gets to the really disgusting stuff this is when he gets into the really psychological stuff which is the stuff that i like the most like the what i like to get hard at all when you know not at all this is what i said smile you know he did no this is what i like to call

the uh no hope passage i realized that being abducted and being forced into sexual slavery is a hard pill to swallow some girls really have a lot of trouble with it and i'm sure that you will to a certain extent but face it you can't get away you can't say no you're gonna be naked all the time you won't be able to struggle or resist you're gonna have to lay there and take it good or bad no matter what's being done to you a scary thought yes but there are no options nothing that you can say or do will change the fact that it's gonna happen many girls begging plead almost all of them cry a lot especially during the first three or four days and some of them scream and threaten but i have a poster on the wall in the playroom that says it all if they're worth taking they're

worth keeping and i'm going to tell you just so you know since you are being kept here against your will you will never trust anything you say do or promise you are a potential threat to us and you will always be treated as such on numerous occasions bitches have told me that they do anything i wanted them to do if i just take the chains off i've been offered ransom money and i've even had girls tell me they liked it but i like to use the chains money's not that important masochists are rare as hell i wonder what your scam's gonna be not anything that i haven't heard before i bet if you get a chance to talk at all um sort of sounds like the beginning of uh the Big Lebowski yeah the word's a little bit the heavy's lost um and so this is uh this next part

this section is by and large the most disgusting part of the whole tape uh yeah so we could throw out a solid disclaimer uh saying that this is pretty fucking horrible yeah yeah yeah i think they're onto it really i mean this is when it gets i mean that everything that came before pretty run of the mill well it's pretty intense but pretty intense but it's not anything we haven't heard before sure i mean not technically yeah because i've never heard anybody do the date before i've never someone made such a presentation of it this guy's got a real flair for the spectacular that's the thing it's a theatrical event that's going on yeah it's like he's on broadway what is this the producers weird um so now this is stepped up this is him

impressing his friends yes also we have a couple real close friends that we party with once in a while they know about our hang ups and don't have any problems with fucking a slave you may be required to service them occasionally but that's an easy one you know for the most part just fucking and sucking they don't get into the heavier stuff however when we have a party sometimes i could put on a little show that you won't like at all you'll be taken into the living room and put on a floor and your hands and knees naked your wrist ankles knees and hips will be strapped to a metal frame to hold your body in that position the frame is designed for doggy fucking your ass up in the air sex organs exposed your tits hanging down on each side of a metal support bar knees

spread about 12 inches position similar to that of a bitch dog and heat right in the middle floor so we could sit up on the couch and chairs and watch i'm gonna rub canine breeder's musk on your back back of your neck and on your sex organs now i have three dogs all of them's male because i don't need any fucking pups one of them is a very large german shepherd that is always horny and he loves it when i bring him into the house to fuck a woman after i let him in the house to sniff around you a little bit within a minute he'll be mounting you there's about a 50 50 chance which hole get his penis into but it doesn't seem to bother him whether it's the pussy or the asshole this penis is pretty thin goes in easy but it's about 10 inches long and when he gets completely

excited it gets a hell of a knot right in the middle of it now i've had slaves tell me that it feels like they got a baseball inside of him it doesn't take long he's gonna hump you real fast for about three or four minutes and while he's doing it he'll wrap his front legs around your chest to hold him in position and in the process he'll probably scratch your tits up a little bit with his claws after he gets through he usually turns around and tries to pull out oh he'll jerk a little not much mostly just steady pressure and i've timed it did not usually shrink up enough to come out of your pussy in about three minutes if it's in your asshole about five minutes i don't use the dog all that often but i don't deprive him of pussy either there's no doubt he's gonna be on

you a few times while you're here because i like watching it and anytime it's just you me and the dog it will always be in your butt the dog not on his penis is big and extremely uncomfortable when he's uh pushing it back and forth way up in your anus i really enjoy watching a girl wiggle jerk and squirm around while he's doing it consequently i give him a little uh assistance getting it in the right hole now if you think all this stuff is sick and deprived you haven't seen anything yet this is a different world all right yeah it's definitely an odd one it's a little bit different it's a different kind of party i like a karaoke machine sure that's great oh a fog machine little smokies i love little smokies that's amazing swedish meatballs i can't believe

that's what we're getting fucked by a dog yeah that's the party hmm that's the party over there oh i see i was just here for the treats okay interesting the baseball slaves like i i just can't imagine a slave going like it feels like a baseball it kind of feels like a baseball saying fine i may mm-hmm shut up yes um all right so that is interesting well yeah after it was like you know that slave had a goddamn point yeah that's that interesting and the timing it's like i've timed it like i can imagine sitting there like yep no this guy is um organized cold cunning uh perfect killer and then um what happened to him let's get to how do you in my opinion truly the saddest part of the story if we want to get to the uh the third victim cindy v hill

she uh was a friend uh again a friend of cindy handy cindy uh or yeah cindy was wanting to go off to visit her daughter in oregon who is giving birth so she asked right good such a good relative that's amazing go support someone who's in a time and yeah so she asked david parker a hey can i go uh to oregon to uh you know visit my daughter while she's giving birth to my first grandchild that is the most wonderful idea i've ever seen give my regards and he says well sure you can go just so long as you get me a sex slave before you leave that's true yeah of course yeah and so they get this woman cindy v hill and they bring her back to uh the toy box and henry why don't you take it from here the escape i love this is just again horror movie come to life so what

happened was is that the daughter was in charge of watching her and goes to answer the telephone of course because she's a teenager always on the phone with the texting laughing with the boys what she was in her mid-twenties but yeah i see she left the keys uh to her wrist shackles uh near where she can get to it and this girl saw her opportunity got the keys again which he would he even said that he's like where we look at you as an enemy as an enemy to us and as a threat to us what she was right about yep and they she took the keys she unlocked the shackles snuck up on the girl the girl saw what was going on they attacked each other they had a giant fight imagine this again it's just like you know naked girl who has been ravaged for three days like they're they're fighting

in the in the down in the toy box all over each other and then she grabbed an ice pick that he had left on the floor the naked girl the naked girl yeah stabbed the daughter as many times she could and escaped and they found her the daughter threw a lamp at her on the way out oh that's right yeah yeah huge scene huge fight and then they found her with the collar around her neck and shackles on her hands like screaming on the highway well here's where they here's where they found it well first the girl was able to get to the phone herself and call 911 from the residents but they didn't really know like what was going on it was hung up yeah and it was yeah it was the daughter hung it up really quick yeah yeah it was a hang up and so this woman made it as a fake

hang up what is this what is the fake hang on those fucking kids yeah yeah and this woman made a run to one of the nearest houses which was an old lady which was also occupied by serial killers right and she and she was god damn it but a dog collar and with a chain attached to it completely naked and just barges into this old lady's home wearing nothing but a chain and initially out here i'm trying to watch wopner wopna i love wopna um but initially she runs she nearly gets hit by one car swerves around her and then another car she's like trying to flag them down for help and uh she had no idea if this if the daughter was chasing her or what so she was like i'm gonna go back there i mean it's just horror and you know and here's something that uh that david parkeray

said in the tape which actually turned out to be true it would not be prudent on our park to have you running around in the woods screaming rape it would be an embarrassment to say the least that's right um so that is the beginning of the end of the end of david parkeray uh began as soon as that woman made the very strong decision to grab those fucking keys and bust on out of that place just keep fighting every single time yeah so the woman makes the escape and of course david parkeray and cindy hindi uh go out looking for the cops stop them and uh they admit to abducting the woman but the reason why is that they say that they kidnapped her for her own good in order to help her kick a heroin addiction yes that's a really fun like what a ridiculous funny lie well i'm

sure it's a bizarre 12 step program you have just don't take her to six flags and then uh well she went all humpedy dumpy onus yeah and so he was a rat both uh all of them were arrested uh cindy hindi she was uh she was arrested you know david parkeray royancy and they all pulled plea bargains jesse they all got fucking plea bargains in the fucking first place yeah which is ludicrous yeah the story the end of the story is the worst part we all ratted each other out and like they all tried to sell each other uh under the bridge which is fine because they're all horrible people cindy hindi got 36 years plus uh probation uh they went through three david parkeray was really his trials are fairly interesting he had three trials ahead of him uh he had the first one because

they couldn't have any remains yeah no remain but the but they had a videotape and they had two of his victims were still alive the videotape that they found they found a videotape of a woman who was bound and gagged uh and had a very unique tattoo on her leg uh which kind of looked like driftwood uh but they showed it but they didn't know who she was so they showed it on the local tv news and a woman watched it and said holy shit that's my ex uh my ex-daughter-in-law's tattoo kelly garret the first woman we talked about yeah who for years have been plagued by nightmares and had no idea what was going on so the cops go and uh they're like hey excuse me can we you know have a look do you have any tattoos we're and you know we're investigating a crime

and so she shows them the tattoo and they go uh yeah and showed her a still of the uh the rape video god damn so the shit work right yeah yeah hold the hypnosis stuff what and showed her and showed her the still and then like it all just came like boom like everything came flooding back and to this day she she's like i mean i saw her interviewed and she says that she can't go anywhere without a uh without a gun can't go anywhere alone constantly afraid constantly it would have been a better course it would have been a the only thing to do is it's a very hard life absolutely i mean what you need to do is go come move to the city get a job as a as a publishing assistant in the wild and wacky like you know upper echelons of new york city party life and get a couple of gaggle

of friends and start walking around party and drink cosmos we're wearing you know like fun shoes and stuff like that and then she'd be fine yeah it would have been a better uh better ending to the movie the notebook if she would have just gotten her memory back and just like take it away take it away next up was angie montaño who died right before the trial began so there was no trial there and with cindy v hill uh i heard a a bit of a court uh recording from their uh from the actual trial she was on the stand testifying against him and uh the uh prosecutor just walked up to her and slammed the caller in the chain that she was wearing uh as she escaped just slammed it in front of her and she just flipped out and started screaming like you bastard you did this to me

you did this to me you ruined my life they had to completely stop the entire trial they had to call the ambulance to try to calm her down because she was just fucking freaking out of course and at that point uh david parker it was just like add let's just stop this and he uh he pleaded what a classy move he that's guy really pulled around and he pleaded and he pleaded guilty and i saw a uh a video of him they interviewed him just like about his sexual perversions like you know do you really do this these things and uh he said and he had this like kind of faraway wistful look in his eye while he was saying it he said i get my excitement from making women happy i get my pleasure he's like a steve madden from their pleasure that's right yeah yeah he sounds like yeah

that's so okay so he was sentenced how many years in prison did he get uh before we yeah david parker ray was sentenced to 224 years in prison on september 30th 2001 in uh march of uh 2002 he was being transferred from jail to prison to serve out his sentence and he died in the holding cell without having massive heart attack with that with a massive heart attack without serving a single day in prison for his crime so it's almost like he died a free man like he did die a free man he did not spend one day in prison god damn i mean and he was and he was uh 61 when he died i thought he was 59 well he was 59 when he was caught yeah when he was caught yeah yeah so i mean so this man he got he won he did it is right that's right is the frank sinatra of serial killers

i agree so then again so this is an important reminder you know check who your friends are that's right if you know anyone with a rhyming name they have a toy box or they know somebody that does um always be vigilant that's don't be a drifter don't be a drifter and if you're a girl you've got to take some karate lessons do some major shake some karate lessons i don't know just do whatever you're gonna do practice the houdini thing where you contract your muscles and the shackles fall off of you my theory is that social media has ruined drifter killing forever i think so too it's really put a damper on it because everyone's always instagram and everything you can't be a drifter properly i really do like a location pops up every single time you take a

picture of a road sign i think the 70s 80s and 90s were like the golden age of drifter women serial killer absolutely you got serial killers wandering around and be like how do i make this new how do i make things different it's all been done before i agree because these women are all over the place like hell that uh that murder that uh that happened you know when i was growing up back home the woman uh the the lot lizard that was killed by those three meth heads they didn't she wasn't uh there was no uh was it there was no investigation into her murder because she was just drifting from place to place yeah no one and if you want a lot lizard is a truck driver's call prostitutes that hang out at truck stops yeah um anyway all right great so that's

marcus and then i'm ben and then uh who are you over there i was taylor strip now you know i'm too you pray yeah that's the thing the thing is that yeah that song though is really i really think that that song really could have done well um being played in the if you had yeah that's the thing i would have i would have rather heard him talk over that song if i had to wake up and hear one thing i would rather hear david parker right yeah just like hours of taylor swift explaining why her and jake gillen hall broke up all right we'll talk to you later magusta installations howl me howl geen be scared of your neighbors definitely will be aware of them