Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 565: Anders Breivik Part III - 22 July

Episode Date: March 2, 2024

The boys conclude the story of Norwegian Mass Killer and Gold Star Loser Anders Breivik with the 2011 Norway Attacks, also known as 22 July, and the brutal massacre that injured over 300 and abruptly ...took the lives of 77 innocent men, women, and children.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Ed Larson and Amber Nelson from the Brighter side here to check in with you, see how you're doing. Is your day more disappointing than a gas station sandwich? Are you trying to put one foot in front of the other in a glue factory? Did you try to throw your air fryer in the bathtub, but nothing happened because you were too lazy to plug it in first? Then the Brighter side podcast is for you! Oh yeah! Each week we take nasty, duky, stupid, dumb, stinky, no good, doodoo factory, boo, kaka-like topics, and try to find the Brighter Side.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Hey, Amber, what's the Brighter Side of waking up chained to a bed in Russia? Um, at least they have free healthcare. That's right! So start your weekend off right every Friday with the brighter side on the last podcast network. You beautiful babies. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Okay. Okay. Okay. There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. Why? I love your glare.
Starting point is 00:01:03 That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? What was that? What was that? What was that? On the left. Why? That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Oh, yes! You know, I feel like Unders' Brave could have learned a lot from reading, dude. We were, I was yelling to Marcus about dude before this because there were inherent things
Starting point is 00:01:22 that Marcus doesn't yet fully understand about dude. Well, because I was telling... Marcus about Dune before this because they're inherent things that Marcus does yet fully understand about Dune. Well, because I was telling him, like, I even tried the audio book listening to Dune is just I just can't stand Frank Herbert's writing style in any form. You're turning people off to the show in droves and that's fine. This is a subjective show. But, you know, it's important for Anders Bravick to understand,
Starting point is 00:01:48 because this is what I've explained to you before, is that they were talking about the idea of being afraid of a white savior complex inside of doom, right, the idea. But the whole book series is about how a white savior just fucks everything up. Like, when they show up, any savior, anybody who says that they're the number one that can fix absolutely everything is lying to you. Or they have to turn to a despot to do the whole thing, which is my big plan.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But honestly, if Anders Brevik understood more things about dude, he'd understand his one man war against liberalism wasn't gonna fucking work because what you need honestly is the actual night's Templar which is the one thing he didn't have. He claimed he did. Exactly. But he didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:32 No, I guess Dune is the sav for all the world's problems. Come on guys get into it. His name is Frank. You don't want to live in Dune though. It's awful. No, the Freyman have figured out how to live on Arrakis. Yeah, and figured out how. It's fucking awful. Yeah, plenty of people have figured out how to live in the Sahara, but you don't want to live there. And to hide from the Harkinans. Oh, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:53 All right, fuck us. Welcome to the last podcast on the left. We're not getting into Dune and the Harkinans right now. You know the national anthem of Araxis? Oh, y'all come over. You fucked up. You know the national anthem of a Raxus? Oh, you're a Coma va. You fucked up. It's a Raxus, and that is a Raxus. That's the Santana album. You're a Raxus. It is a Bridgestooth Park.
Starting point is 00:03:11 My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with Dune Master, Henry Zabrowski. Yeah, I'm the Dune Master. And Poon Master, Ed Larsen. Whoa, hey, now, hey. Let's ask Julie. Is he the Poon Master? And we're here for the conclusion of or series on Anders Brevek.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And that's where the joking stops. Because today's episode is the real serious shit, but we're going to, we got some breaks in there. Yeah. Today's episode is brought to you by therapy. Actually, unfortunately, the episode was brought to you by Not Going to Therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, because if he had went to therapy, we would be talking about Swedish fish. Yeah, man. What are we talking about? All right, the world's scariest meals.
Starting point is 00:03:58 So when we last left Anders Brevik, the date was Julyst, 2011, and he just parked a van containing a homemade bomb in a garden center in Oslo in preparation for his day of terror. Now after parking the bomb, Anders headed to his mother's duplex to sleep, so he'd already be in Oslo when it came time to kick off the plan. You think he showed up with like a corn cob pipe and a straw hat being like, yaw mom, Jaws came from the farm. Oh, you're in my life. Like he's the guy from the Columbia beans.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So at 1230 the next afternoon, Breviks sat in the fart room and sent out an email to the 8,000 addresses he'd farmed from Facebook. This email contained his quote unquote film, a list of right wing websites, and his 1500 page manifesto. Problem was, such a massive send got stalled after it was sent to a thousand addresses because the spam filters marked Bravix Manifesto as garbage. Nailed it. And therefore most of the people who were supposed
Starting point is 00:05:01 to get the email never got it. You know, and I'm pondering reflection, it's not a very good manifesto. Yeah. How far did you get? I read a couple hundred pages. A couple hundred pages. Yeah. Good for you. That's not bad. No, it's bad. It was bad. Undeterred, Brevik left his computer going just in case the other 7,000 emails broke through and left his browser on a website that showed the day's program for a summer camp on nearby
Starting point is 00:05:27 Utoya Island, which is attended by the youth wing of the National Labor Party of Norway known as the AUF. Now the reasons why Anders Brevik chose Utoya Island were simple. The AUF was actually a pipeline for labor party leadership in Norway, so Brevik believed that he was exterminating the party leadership in Norway. So Brevik believed that he was exterminating the party leaders of tomorrow. It's the old knits make lies justification people use to kill or horrifically mistreat children. The Nazis used it all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Utoya Island was also a fair distance from Oslo. It was only reachable by boat or ferry. There were only a few places to hide and it had a large concentration of people on a relatively small landmass 564 people on just 26 acres But while there was a fair amount of older staff and visitors the vast majority of the people on the island were young adults and teenagers between the ages of 14 and
Starting point is 00:06:19 23 yes, the true Marxist soldiers of the future. Like it's just, it's really funny. Obviously it's very sad, but he also just knew that this would be an easy place. Yeah, there wasn't gonna be anybody that was gonna give him any resistance. So after Breviks sent out the email containing his manifesto and his quote unquote film, he returned to the garden center
Starting point is 00:06:40 where he'd parked the bomb and changed into an outfit that made him appear as if he was a police officer. After Brevik put on his cop costume, he drove the van to a tower block that housed both the Ministry of Justice and the Prime Minister's office. And this building was not blocked by any barricades whatsoever. This entire crime is predicated on the fact that Norway has never experienced anything like this before since the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like, I would say since the Nazis. Since the Nazis. And so they, they were just kind of open for it. Yeah, they really were. He then backed his 2000 pound bomb into an area where the impact of the blast would explode towards the building, maximizing impact. Now, ostensibly, no parking was supposed to be allowed in this particular area, but no one cared that Anders parked there because delivery vehicles parked in this spot all
Starting point is 00:07:33 the time. This was supposed to be for the sole purpose of picking up and dropping off the Prime Minister of Norway. Yeah. And that's- I feel basically like a guy from Domino's. I just been hanging out there being like, how did I get here? Did you order this on the app? My God!
Starting point is 00:07:51 This is, what a trip! The salted herring is incredible! Are you the prime minister? Here's your crazy bread! I mean, in essence, this is the equivalent of a terrorist parking a bomb in front of 10 Downing Street in London then walking away while the security guard shrugged and said, I'm sure it's fine. No problems here. And so, after parking, Brevik lit the fuse, which gave him six minutes to flee the scene.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He then pulled his pistol out of his holster and walked away while wearing a helmet and body armor, ready to murder anyone who tried to stop him. But since Anders was dressed as a cop, absolutely no one paid him any mind, almost as if he was just a part of the scenery. See in Norway, most citizens have an extraordinarily high degree of trust in their police force. Yeah, because they're trained to help. Yeah, I mean, the police force is structured specifically to foster trust and cooperation. Yeah, they don't go out killing people.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah, that's the number one thing they don't do. Yeah. Yeah, a 2021 poll showed that 82% of Norwegians had the utmost trust in police. This is vastly at odds with the way policing is structured here in America, where the culture is more of an antagonistic us versus them mentality, where we're scared of the cops and the cops are scared of us. Well, definitely has gotten to that in 2024. The idea might have started the idea that they are protecting.
Starting point is 00:09:13 There was a difference between the police and the military for a long time. I know you some of our younger listeners may not remember that, but there used to be like a separation of that. And they used to suppose to kind of help on a more local level. And then, you know, like like honestly even my father would talk about how being a cop was supposed to be about you're supposed to Help the neighborhood that you work in because ostensibly that's the neighborhood you live in and and it's changed once they got the tanks Yeah, which I understand once I get a tank. Yeah, a lot of shit's gonna be different. We have so many extra tanks What are we gonna do give them Israel?
Starting point is 00:09:43 We have so many extra tanks, what are we gonna do? Give them Israel You know what you do again I've been saying this for a long time every community should have one tank and that the police can have a tank if every Neighborhood can also have a neighborhood tank and then you can go and you can subscribe you put on a list Right and then that's your weekend with the tank. Oh, you can check out the tank like it's a lending library Right and then that's your weekend with the tank. Oh, you can check out the tank like it's a lending library And it's for specific things you have a problem with the DMV if you find out that the fucking caribou coffee is run out of your favorite mocha syrup son of a bitch Equality the NYPD is two submarines Incredible they have two submarines.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Wow, cool. And 30-something thousand people work for the MIPD, which is as many soldiers as all of Australia. Well, they should have went to- What am I talking about? You know, they should have went to goddamn Norway. This is the one time our police system was fucking correct. Well, but that's all to say that when Anders Brevik strolled through the streets with his gun unholstered, there was only one guy who made note of the fact that this supposed cop
Starting point is 00:10:52 climbed into his van and started driving against the flow of traffic. Now, I'm just speculating here, but this blatant disregard for safety, it might be exactly why this guy thought something was up, because it seems out of character for a Norwegian cop. But either way, just as Anders Brevik escaped the scene at around 3.25 pm, his 2,000 pound bomb exploded with incredible force. Instantly, a man walking near the van was so thoroughly destroyed that the only intact part of his body was his left hand, which was identified only by his wedding ring.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Two young women were likewise engulfed in flames and thrown to the ground, killed instantly. The resulting scene resembled a war zone with people unaccustomed to terrorism, listlessly wandering through the broken glass and rubble. In all, eight people were killed by Breviks bomb and a further 200 were injured. However, it could have been far worse. Since Breviks set off his bomb in June, many of the people who would normally fill downtown Oslo were on vacation, which tells you that this bomb was by no means the main event. Rather, this was a tactic that Breviks had written about in his manifesto,
Starting point is 00:12:05 make a loud noise in the east and attack in the west. But even so, had Brevik stuck to his original plan to build a 4,000-pound bomb, he could have quite possibly brought down the building where he parked. And that would have killed the Norwegian Prime Minister. You know, and we know that this is the first part of his plan. As we didn't go through all of the details of him building the bombs for the months that he was on his farm. It's quite tedious. It's very, very, truly the reason why is because it was tedious.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But it also shows it's his own lack of, I'm not going to say drive, because he did have this plan. But it was too difficult for him to put together all of the materials. Like he was going and going and then he realized he's just giving himself cancer. They were all still waiting for. Hopefully that pops up soon. That's hope so. Yeah. Do you think a 4,000 pound bomb would have fit in the van? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean isn't that the side? What was it? The OKC? I think that was 6,000. It's like, but he had help.
Starting point is 00:13:06 It was either 4,000 or 6,000. Yeah, and didn't he, McVeigh had a system of people helping him, but that fit in a band. Yeah. And it was his, Bravick obviously was inspired by that, right? Yeah. And he definitely looked at McVeigh
Starting point is 00:13:18 as an example of a fertilizer bomb. Well, yeah, that's what he put in. He was like, it was possible to make this much damage with just a fertilizer Yeah, and they also had the same favorite quote about the blood of you know, tire, you know blood of tyrants Tree of Liberty bullshit and fuck off. Yes Now the witness who noted Breviks odd behavior called emergency services and gave them the make model color and license plate of the van Driven by a man dressed as a police officer who was
Starting point is 00:13:45 behaving strangely just before the blast. They had him. Yes, they had him dead to rights. They had every bit of information they could have needed to catch him immediately. But the literally fatal flaw here was that Oslo police had no shared alert procedures simply because it had never occurred to them to put such procedures in place. Do you have any idea how hard it is to put a siren on a sled? It's extremely difficult. And if you're skiing with a siren on your hat, it's fun in games and everyone loves to see a guy do it. But it's very difficult to balance, especially if you don't do it all the time. Yeah, there's actually a reindeer that knew it was true, but no one could understand.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, because you're going, There was actually a reindeer that knew it was true, but no one could understand. Santa Claus? Well, therefore, anytime an order or a piece of information needed to be shared, everyone had to be called one by one, making timely coordination impossible. That meant that there were no roadblocks leading out of Oslo and no immediate search for the van that was being driven by a possible suspect. Instead, all available manpower focused on the rescue operation downtown. And that included their version of a SWAT team, Norway's Delta Force. Why do I feel like they're like the band or like the emblem for the Norwegian Delta Force is just like a seagull with a bunk chair like liquorice. Black liquorice too. Scandinavians love that black liquorice.
Starting point is 00:15:10 They love that. A lot of bitter candy. Maybe it's because the weather's bad. Oh, and that's it. Now that's Delta Force's first album, Bitter Candy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do the candy dance, do the candy dance. I think we're supposed to be doing something right now. Have you ever eaten lack of roll, their candy? Yeah. Fucking cigarettes. Yeah, it tastes like cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So disgusting. Additionally, Norway only had one police helicopter. To put it into perspective, the LAPD alone has 17 helicopters, which is actually less than I expected. I thought so too. I thought it was going to be like 30 or 40. They're just all flying it all the time. But also you're not just got, that's just the LAPD. Yeah. You have like, you know, the downtown, the, all around SoCal, I think there's a lot of helicopters. Yeah. Beverly Hills might have their own helicopters because they're their own police force. Most likely Burbank's their own city probably got its own its own helicopters too. Yeah good for them
Starting point is 00:16:11 It's the only one to be is India from Siv You just want to be about paramilitary You just want to be like a full but but a good guy Yeah, as soon as you got to say I'm a nice guy I'm like a nice guy, when they find out that you're... I don't know, I mean... I didn't feel like, ah, you're a good guy, you're a good guy! Yeah, as soon as you gotta say I'm a nice guy, I'm a good guy, that means you're a piece of shit. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. It's like what we did on tight circles this week, about how you always know if somebody's reasonable, if they're screaming it. But really, the number of helicopters in Norway was irrelevant, because the helicopter crew, it was June. They were on vacation and they had no backups. They take vacation very seriously in Scandinavia.
Starting point is 00:16:51 All Europe. All we got to do is meet in the middle here. That's like all I'm asking for. Yeah, the Americans, us working ourselves to death, constantly making a part of our culture to work yourself to death and being gone for four months. I mean, there's got to be there's gotta be a happy eat. There has to be somewhere in the media in the middle. They go on paternity leave if their cousin has a kid. Yeah, and I'm like, I've got to go and see if my other cousin's pussy is still intact. There's a middle ground here.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Well, much of the response that seemed at least at first relaxed for lack of a better word. I would say there was for lack of a better word. I would say there was a lack of urgency to it. Well it seems like they were showing up to help people get better or get out and not like concentrating on the who did this part. Yes, that was exactly what they were focused on. Like let's just, we gotta help these people and that's all we're focused on. We'll worry about catching this guy later because it didn't really occur to them that
Starting point is 00:17:44 that guy, whoever was responsible for it, didn't really occur to them that that guy, whoever was responsible for it, it didn't occur to them that that guy might be doing other shit. And also at first they kind of assumed like, this seems like an al-Qaeda type thing, so it's probably, it was probably a suicide bomber. They were saying that at the time too, there was a lot of like, spear rattling, what's the term? Saber rattling. Yeah, from Gaddafi? Saber rattling. Yeah from Gaddafi Mm-hmm, and the Gaddafi was saying that he was gonna bring terrorism to Scandinavia like and he was saying so there was a little bit of that thing And it's Olympians. Mm-hmm. And the thing is that the helicopter pilot did show up He's like yeah, I'm on vacation, but it sounds like you need me. All right
Starting point is 00:18:24 Stop having sex with his four wives. I don't know what it's like in Norway. It sounds nice. Yeah, but he was told he wasn't needed. And Oslo police didn't notify the military or arrange for military helicopters, even though the prime minister himself was nearly killed. No nationwide alert was issued, and none of the information about the bombing was sent to the media. But most importantly, even when CCTV footage spotted Anders Brevik, no one was told that the suspect was dressed as a cop. Had this information been made public, someone may have taken notice when Anders Brevik, hopped up on Red Bull, showed up at the ferry heading to Otoya Island
Starting point is 00:19:13 In his possession was a rifle a pistol and a pelican case containing thousands of rounds of ammunition and various other Implements of destruction. Yeah, I found out that he called the pistol Molnir yeah, and he called the rifle Yolner yolner And then the rifle was called like another was Odin's spear, which just sounds like a Swedish brand of condoms. I don't know what it's called. Some dumb Norse shit. But he also was like, it wasn't just Red Bull. He was, I guess it was all the epinephrine or whatever that, that the stuff that you said.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The stuff that they took out of medicine, the good stuff. Yeah. He was taking that solidly because that was, and then he was all up on his steroids and shit. So he was like, oh, I'll ruin it up and ready to go. And, and he was kind of expecting a lot more conflict. He was. Now, within about an hour and a half, the kids and counselors on Utoya Island
Starting point is 00:19:58 were getting reports of what happened in Oslo. So the news was spreading quickly. Ironically though, as I said, the first report suggested that the terrorist bombing might have been perpetrated by Al Qaeda. This worked in Breviks' favor. When he approached the ferry to Otoya in an unmarked van holding a rifle, which suspicious! Yeah, in us, in our world, we now are, we're also hyper paranoid now. We're extremely paranoid. But if there's an attack and like a cop shows up with a gun, I mean that seems so.
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's the thing. A security guard approached him and asked him, hey, what are you doing here? And with a casual dismissal, Anders told the young guard that he was there because officers were being posted in various locations around the country because of the bombing. You know, and it also like unmarked cars like,
Starting point is 00:20:40 oh, well, good thing they're here in a hurry. Yeah, yeah, he just got here. He must have been just got done delivering his fish. Yeah. After that, the only request put towards Anders was to cover his rifle so the kids wouldn't get scared once he arrived on the island. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And then the term Anders, it's always the annoyed. It's the, uh, uh. Yep, went back to his van, found a plastic bag, which only really covered half the rifle. Is he scared enough? Is he good for you? Yeah, all right, get on. went back to his van, found a plastic bag, which only really covered half the rifle. But they're like, yeah. Is he good enough? Is he good for you? Yeah, all right, get on.
Starting point is 00:21:09 This was deemed good enough. And the ferry, the MS Thornbjorn pushed off soon after. All the baggage had been checked except for Breviks case, because it simply didn't occur to anyone to even question whether or not he was a cop, much less search as shit. And this ferry captain would be haunted for the rest of his life for doing this.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He didn't know and he felt, cause I guess he did try to run a loose, like a rescue operation after to help. But by then it was already like too late. Now once the fairy arrived at Utoya Island, 600 yards from the mainland, the security guard at the dock was immediately suspicious of Brevik,
Starting point is 00:21:44 who by this point was getting a little twitchy. Almost immediately, Brevik nearly blew his cover, giving fumbling answers about his supposed assignment. Yeah, he's not going to be on who's line anytime soon. He's one of those guys, some comedians can't improv. Everything has to be written, he left it all on the table with his manifesto, and even that was bad. So he's no George Carlin. Nope. But pretty soon, Brevet convinced the security guard to help gather everyone on the island to meet at a single location, a grassy slope near the main building.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And here, if you could hand out these neon shirts, that would also help, yes, these orange shirts. If you could handle these whistles as well and have them begin to whistle. Oh, don't forget how, these orange shirts, if you can handle these whistles as well and have them begin to whistle. Oh, don't forget the glow stick. If you could, it's almost going to be sunset. Yeah. And I mean, this was under the guise of like, we got to brief everybody on this bombing.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So let's gather everyone together in one place. But as Brevik walked behind the guard, a man named Trond Bernsen, he pulled his pistol from his holster, held it to the back of Bernson's head, and pulled the trigger. With that, the killing spree had begun. And now we might do little bits of, just so you know, obviously this is going to be very difficult as we go into the details of all these crimes. And I think Eddie said you also have some really important material that will help some stuff, stuff that would really like, because I know a lot of people look to us for emotional support.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah. I thought it'd be best that in order to cut the pain, I would write some really hacky Norway jokes. Oh, I thought that you were going from grief counseling. I thought these were grief counseling notes or... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know that Norwegian cuisine is so bad that they're changing the name of it to Sizzler? I think that this might be almost as bad as the crime success. What?
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm killing. I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was really funny. We'll figure it out. I didn't know that this didn't come from a Greek household. It's true, but that is a fact, though. That's fine. I mean, I just thought that this was... I thought this was... It's written down. I thought it came from the guy from 9-11. That one guy.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I mean, people say he was... I mean, I'm not sad anymore from 9-11. Well, walking with Brevik and Bernsen was a woman named Monica Bosse, who was only there because she was married to the captain of the MS Thornbjorn. Brevik shot her too, and after she went down, Brevik straddled his first victim and shot him twice in the head and did the same to Monica. Once the shock were off, the captain, who was also walking next to Brevik, ran over to the grassy hill where everyone had gathered and warned everyone to run for their lives. That's when the chaos began. One of the misconceptions about mass shootings
Starting point is 00:24:26 is that the perpetrators are wild madmen reveling in the moment, laughing maniacally, something akin to natural born killers, or Jake Busey and the Frightners. Whoa, interesting example. Oh yeah, well, I mean, he's very much, he was into it. He was. But no one's seen that movie.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah. People think you can even see the Frightners. The Frightners is a class. Imagine Jake Busey, who is Gary Busey with less rules. So imagine that. In reality though, most mass shooters carry out their task with cold, calm precision, methodically working their way through groups of people
Starting point is 00:25:00 while exuding a thick atmosphere of stoic inhumanity. In all, Brevitt may have been the best example of this behavior. When a young AUF member ran up to him asking for help because he was dressed as a cop, and this would happen again and again, he shot her without the slightest hesitation, then took aim at a group of kids 30 meters away. There was a very interesting GQ article from the time period that interviewed a lot of the survivors and talking about what it looked like. And one of the things that struck me about the imagery of Anders Breivik from a distance looking like a lone police officer. But the way they looked at it is that they also said that the vision of him was so kind of unbelievable because,
Starting point is 00:25:43 yeah, he was dressed in a police officer uniform, but they also thought it was interesting that he had the rifle that he had was like so absurd. Right? Like it was way overpowered for what that what he anybody would be trying to do. And they said it was this massive silencer on it and the bayonet attached to it. And then he had the pistol on the other hand, like walking like the Terminator. And there was like that. There was like a moment of almost being like who's this fucking cartoon character like before you're even scared It was way more like why is he doing this like this like this is not like the absurdity of he showed up to Like I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:18 I guess it's about the shattering of an innocent afternoon like it's about that But it's also he was such a pussy that he arrived with this like an army style, like he's, to kill children. Yeah. Now, I know, I think I asked this question before, but how many rounds of ammunition did he have with him? 3,000.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah. How do you even carry that? A huge box that you took four people to lift onto the ferry and then they lifted off to the ferry and then he made a little base of Operations and so he brought it into the he went through the main kind of cafe area and cleared it out And then he put all this stuff out. Yeah, and that's it became his like little center his little war room Well, he immediately dropped a 22 year old member of the AUF by hitting him in the shoulder with a rifle bullet Then he calmly walked up to him and fired again into his neck to make sure he was dead. This would
Starting point is 00:27:09 be Breviks' chosen method of execution. Get him with the rifle, make sure they're dead with the pistol. But for the victims, the most terrifying part of their ordeal was that Utoya Island didn't have many places to hide. There were few buildings, much of the island was made up of open fields of grass, and the formerly thick forest had been reduced to a few sparse trees. As far as swimming for it went, a lot of the island was skirted by sheer cliffs.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And even if they did make it to the water, they still had to swim the equivalent of six football fields. And there was always the chance that Brevik would fire at you while you were swimming away. Well, that was one of the original plans was to shoot in a circle, get everybody. That's the way he viewed it, was to get him in the lake and then he would pick everybody off from inside the lake. So that's what he kind of thought.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He'd sweep them into the water. So was it a lake? Yeah, it was a lake. It was an island in the middle of a lake. Now within 10 minutes, the local police station received a call from the boat captain who told them that there was a man dressed as a policeman shooting kids on Utoya Island. By this point, Bravick had already killed nine people. While walking through the camp buildings looking for more victims, Bravick later said that he almost disassociated from the situation, imagining
Starting point is 00:28:24 that he was carrying out a raid in World of Warcraft. The dissociated is a kind word. I would say he didn't give a shit. As it almost disassociated. He quickly cleared the main building, going from room to room and shooting anyone he found inside. It then occurred to him that some of the kids might have been feigning death, so he went back and shot each kid who was laying on the ground in the head to make sure he killed him
Starting point is 00:28:48 Well, I'm got two bullets in the head What very much surprised Brevik though was that hardly any of the kids were fighting back or even running Instead they begged or simply screamed in terror in one case Anders brought a pistol to the face of a girl who was in mid-scream and he fired into her open mouth, killing her instantly. Others were shot through their hands as they tried covering their faces in some instinctual, ineffective bed for protection, while some sat frozen against the wall in the hallway of the main building while Breviks shot them one by one.
Starting point is 00:29:23 When I read that witness testimony, I think it was important because then I saw from inside their heads, like kind of why. Why they froze? Why they froze? Because they all kind of said the same thing. This doesn't happen here. Yeah. They all were, they said the beginning wave of the shots
Starting point is 00:29:39 came and they were mostly driven by curiosity because they didn't understand what the sounds were and they didn't fully, they heard people saying this and they're like, oh, this must be a prank or people are freaking out. Like no one thought that this could happen. Yeah, they're all raised to be kind, gentle human beings. Yes. I mean, there's a lot going on, but it's more like neutral.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Also understanding that you can deal things with the, there's diplomacy in there and that you're supposed to deal things with bureaucracy and government. That is the nice part of the left-leaning government. Rationalization. Yes. Now this is the definition of it can't happen here. It can't happen here. Now do you have any statements about that? Does anything help? Do you have anything from the grief counselor to help? Yeah. Trolls, you know, in Norway there's lots of, you know, they're a major part of Norwegian mythology and most trolls, I don't know if you know, in Norway, there's lots of, you know, they're a major part of Norwegian mythology. And most trolls, I don't know if you know this or not, Henry,
Starting point is 00:30:29 but most of them are known to be short, stubby, unkept creatures who feast on anything from stones to children. And in America, we call them Zabrowski's. I don't understand how this is helping. I don't know why this grief counselor thought that this would help. I didn't think that I would come into this scenario, this very serious moment, and be a roasted in such a fashion.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Burn the troll. Burn. And that makes me really angry. Well, your nose job looks great. I am untouched by surgery. I know a lot of people don't think so. Right from your grave. Well incredibly, Breviks entire spree in the main building alone took less than two minutes. By the time he left, he'd killed 13 kids and critically injured many more.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Then moved on to shooting the tents that dotted Utoya Islands' open campsite. Meanwhile, Norway's lack of a centralized response system was making the police response painfully slow, and incredibly, even though it was well known by this time that there was a shooter on the island, the Utoya Island ferry was not being used. See, the ferry had returned to the mainland after dropping off Anders Brevik, because the leader of the AUF, a guy named Eskel Peterson, had used it along with eight others to escape the island themselves immediately, even though there were still over 550 people trapped on the island with Brevik. This is one of those moments where I'm not going to speak ill, I don't know this person
Starting point is 00:32:04 or this family, but this is bad. He was heavily criticized. Yes, he left everybody to die. He was in charge and he was the guy that Bravik was technically there to kill. Yeah, he'd been one of Brevik's main targets. I mean, he was so set on killing him
Starting point is 00:32:21 that Brevik had studied photos of Peterson to make sure he could recognize him once he saw him. And some kind of fucked up way, I feel like if he had shot Peterson, he might have actually ended his spree a lot sooner because he would have gotten over, he would have gotten the thing that he came for, so this guy, he just kind of left all these children to die. Yeah, well, in his defense, he had just filled his subway sandwich cart. And you didn't even have free sandwich. And I get that because that shit runs out. He said that was his plan for the day.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And you know, it can't break those plans. It doesn't roll over. I thought that if I could leave that to Natalie, because I have a collection of these, and they said no, the lawyer said no, the state said no. So I don't know what's gonna happen when she kills him. Well, as it went, Peterson's decision to leave was heavily, heavily criticized especially when witness testimony came out describing the anguish that some of the critically injured
Starting point is 00:33:14 kids felt as their leader fucked off to safety while they lay on the ground bleeding to death. Could you imagine being shot in the field and the guy that you're doing a bunch of free work for? Let's just face facts right? You're an intern. Well this is summer. Yeah. But you know what I mean? But a lot of these, there's still interns or kids and you're watching the guy that it's Pelton telling everybody to do, being like, love your hustle. Oh yeah, good work in there. You're a real rock star, Bjorn. And you're doing a bunch of free work with him, watching him duck and cover run into the fairy and they're all like, he's going, he's kind of safe. He's leaving.
Starting point is 00:33:48 And then you just watch the fairy just pull off. Nobody, plenty of room. Yeah. Literally 200 people going to run on the fairy. Yeah. He just left. But do you think if they would have sat there and loaded 200 people on the fairy, don't you think Bravac would have just fucking not, it would have just like loaded into it.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You know what's weird is that as we'll get to, Anders Bravick was looking for an out. Like he was kind of looking for an out. He was trying to find a way for, because like right before this, they did definitely contemplate committing suicide. There was a moment before he was coming from the, from the bomb to Toya where he was going to, he was gonna do it,
Starting point is 00:34:26 the thing would be a full martyr. But then he was like, oh, but the trial. Yeah. I gotta get there for the trial. And so that's why he continued to move on. Now back on the island, an 18 year old named Anders Christensen had found a phone. He called the Norwegian version of 911,
Starting point is 00:34:42 telling them that a shooter was loose on Utoya. Feared, feared, feared. Incredjord, fjord, fjord. Incredibly, though, the operator argued with Christensen and told him that he was wrong. There wasn't a shooter on a toy, there's a bombing in Oslo, you fucking idiot. And so, the kid hung up and huddled together with a group of kids who were all quickly found by Brevik and executed. Now, by this point,vik was looking at the situation with a degree of fascination.
Starting point is 00:35:07 The more he killed, the more he began noticing little details of death. For example, he said that when he shot someone in the head he heard a sort of exhalation, a breath coming from the hole he'd made. Instead of horror, all he could think was how interesting it was. All while he alternated weapons to make sure he at least had one gun loaded at all times.
Starting point is 00:35:29 By 5.40pm, about 25 minutes after Bravik began, Norway's elite response team, Delta Force, finally left Oslo for Otoya, which, unfortunately, was about an hour's drive away. Okay, time to go! Like, you got to go. Like, oh God. Yeah, if they had the helicopter there, could've gotten there a lot faster. These aren't my work shoes. Yeah, like, oh, if I can't wear my casual cardigan out,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I became Canadian. Meanwhile, local police were at Utoya Island looking at it. They were ready to go, but they were told to wait until Delta Force showed up. Problem was, Delta didn't know where Utoya Island was, because their GPS was giving the wrong information. Oh my god, the GPS... And it wasn't a well-known place, not really, not to everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:20 But still, you know, like it's just all of these things that just repains me. I know that, and the rendezvous point for a full assault kept changing for one reason or another in other words norweg Was entirely unprepared for an American style mass shooting and the extreme panic that came as a result Cost them dozens of lives and casualties, which is not necessarily something I blame them for they just weren't ready It's why you did it. It literally is why he did it, is because he knew they weren't ready. And he did it because it would be easy. If he felt that, I think there was a,
Starting point is 00:36:50 obviously there was a moment where he thought that he was just gonna get shot by a bunch of cops. Like he kind of thought that the military was gonna roll in. And then when they did- Yeah, like it's five stars on GTA. Yes, that's what he wanted that, because he wanted all this attention.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But even after all of this mayhem, people still didn't care about Anders. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, you know, people don't do mass shootings at police stations. They pick balls. Yeah, they pick where it's where it's vulnerable or it's easy. Well, case in point, when it came to the surprising nature of the attack was when Brevik decided to give himself up at 6 p.m. This is after he murdered 40 people. He still had 29 to go. Because he'd forgotten his cell phone in his van in downtown Oslo, Brevik made his way into the island's cafe and found a cell phone.
Starting point is 00:37:39 There he dialed the number for the local police and said quote, Yes, good afternoon. My name is Commander Anders Bering Bravik of the Norwegian anti-communist resistant movement. I'm on, you're going Irish. I just doing my best. I'm on your toy at the moment. I want to give myself up. You have the worst Norwegian accent in the world.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I was doing the German then, which is closest for me. That was the closest I was trying to do. And then I was trying to do subtle. And every time I tried to do the subtle Scandinavian, it goes Irish, Canadian, or back to German. So I'm just kind of sticking to it sort of a Sphin. You're sticking to Swedish. You're doing Swedish, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm sticking to Sphin, because that's what I know. And that's what you guys get. That's what the Scandinavians get. I'm doing my best. You should have sucked on a bunch of licorice before you got here. No, because then I would have, again, it would have soothed my stomach
Starting point is 00:38:29 and I need that fire inside in order to do the show. Amen. Now the cell phone didn't have a SIM card, so the number didn't register on call or ID. The operator asked for Breviks number in case they got cut off, and tragically the call did indeed drop. But instead of calling back, Breviks put down the phone, walked to the water's edge
Starting point is 00:38:48 where more kids were trying to escape and continued shooting. And think of the boredom inherent in this. There is a, there is this level of just total like, he was tired. Yeah. He was tired. He was done. Like he didn't feel like he was done. The Red Bulls worn off.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. He just is a, I guess that's like one of the, truly one of the worst aspects of this story is his, I'm kind of almost wishing for, no, some of the modern style energy. Yeah. You know, a little bit more, get up and go. It's just straight, it's like apathy.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It's boredom. It's boredom, sheer apathy. Yeah, doesn't care. Now, one of the stats that usually go unmentioned when it comes to the otoya Massacre is just how many people were actually shot, but didn't die while Brevic killed 69 He wounded a further 110 meaning that one out of every three people on otoya caught a bullet from Anders Brevic Many of those 110 survive much of the time, however, on sheer luck. For example, one girl who was shot in the face crawled out of the café while holding
Starting point is 00:39:52 her own jaw. And just by chance, a woman who knew first aid found her and saved her life. And luckily, she did so in a spot where Brevik did not return. Because concerning Brevikik's path, he had enough time to circle the entire island, finding more and more kids waiting on the shore for rescue. Then he had time to do it again, sometimes finding and shooting kids
Starting point is 00:40:18 that he'd missed the first time around. So people who stayed in the middle were more likely to be saved? Yeah, there were people that were treading water in the lake. It all depended on what time you... Like, if you stayed in the middle in the beginning, then you were more likely to be killed. But if you went out to the edges and then moved to the middle, then you were more likely to survive. It just... It was... There was just no way to know.
Starting point is 00:40:39 They was sheer fucking luck. And they're all pacifists. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, they also are just not, they don't understand what's happening because they are now, as you begin to understand, but like how are we all gonna get together to find the guy? Also, they're children.
Starting point is 00:40:54 They're all like 14 to 21 years old, essentially. Yeah, but I think at this point, I think- Because they don't have military training and it's not one of those countries. Yeah, they do. Do they have to go to military training? Yeah, Norway has mandatory military service. But that's not, this is kind of a lot of times, it's before, those countries. Do they have to go to military training? Norway has mandatory military service. But that's not, this is kind of a lot of times
Starting point is 00:41:07 it's before, I mentioned this before they have to go. And like by military service in Norway, a lot of them have to be waiters. Yeah. Again, this came from the grief counselor. His doctor Reverend Bollingo. Yeah, because remember Anders got out of his mandatory military service because he had to take care
Starting point is 00:41:28 of his mom who had herpes so bad she had to get her head flushed. Yeah, to get her head pumped out of all the pus. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. So I would imagine some of them... I cannot go. My mom is filled with sex juice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:39 She has to be sponged. So I would imagine some of them did have some military training, but the vast majority of the victims were under the age of 18. Yeah, they're also not prepared for this. They've not come. This is not wartime. They are on summer camp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Meanwhile, Delta Force had finally arrived across the water and 10 heavily armed officers boarded the local police's Red Rubber Dinghy. It's the kind that you usually see on like rafting expeditions or lifeguards something like that Bad for taking Delta Force over. Yeah, cuz their gears pretty heavy They're real heavy and so the boats outboard motor couldn't work effectively. It was like halfway down And about halfway to the island the overworked engine gave out and pretty soon the dinghy started taking on water And that's the story of how Delta Force drowned They could
Starting point is 00:42:29 Do it they all the entire SWAT team drought they absolutely would have drowned. I just It's technically funny, but it's not yeah Yeah, the sort of three stooges style running around like bailing it out like it's a bugs bunny cartoon style running around like bailing it out like it's a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Yeah. But it's not. But the whole time they're hearing pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, coming from the, coming from the island. And they're all just panicking. Everybody's panicking. Delta forced them to continue the shooting. Is that too much? There's editing. There's so much editing to be done. Well, I mean, the thing is that suddenly, like a good Samaritan appeared in a rowboat and all 10 cops got on the rowboat.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But they had the same problem with the weight. They're actually moving slower now because they can't use... the rowboat is too heavy. And so another row robot showed up. And so that way the officers go five and five and that sped them up considerably, but they're still on a rowboat and they got like 300 yards to go. I mean, I don't mean to compare, but then I think about like Charles Whitman, like how Charles Whitman's lighting up people from the, tower. But then like 40 guys with guns. You know what I mean? Like it's such a different scenario in America.
Starting point is 00:43:49 You know what I mean? And during Charles Whitman shooting, like remember there was a dude, a regular dude in an airplane, shoot down. Flying around the tower, just fucking shooting it. It's not, it's very different it's not
Starting point is 00:44:05 pro-america but it's like the one thing we got on lockdown everybody's dangerous everybody from the house to house can be dangerous that's actually one of the big reasons they say why we like truly why America has yet to be fully invaded yeah which is one of the most dangerous things about us is that the entire population can be motivated and mobilized, which, you know, it's not good when you're going to the mall. But if the Ruskies come, we got... Well, but yeah, I mean, that's the thing is that Charles Whitman, it's 14 versus, you
Starting point is 00:44:41 know, 69. Yes. Yeah. Well, the lack of police presence, speaking of which, was highly puzzling to Anders Bravik. He'd expected special forces to arrive by helicopter long before this point, but the only bird circling the island was a news copter. Idly Anders again thought of suicide, but again ultimately decided that he owed it to himself to carry out his plan to phase three the trial the fucking time he had yeah
Starting point is 00:45:08 He's like sitting on a stump had a time to ponder. Yeah, he's just like hmm. You know like he's hanging out You're drawing pictures fucking playing Sudoku the cops are fucking rowing to get you. You got some extra time Yeah, you're watching them come. Yeah, do you think they got those rowboats in Orway? You know that one, that one made me feel better. That one made me feel better. In the meantime, Brevitt continued with phase two, even though he was almost out of ammo and had been active for well over an hour without an ounce of resistance. Pretty soon though, Brevik himself decided, enough's enough, and he tried calling again to turn himself in.
Starting point is 00:45:51 After reaching the emergency line, he told them that he was on Utoya, he'd completed his mission, please someone come get me. I am tired. Yeah. I want to watch my shows. Yeah, I want to watch the Shields. Where is my iPad?
Starting point is 00:46:07 When the officer asked him what he was commander of, referring to his earlier proclamation of rank, because they're still trying to figure out who the fuck this guy is. Yeah. He said, quote, Knights Templar Europe, the organization is called, but we are organized in the anti-communist can-resistant movement against the Islamization of Europe and Norway. We have carried out an operation on behalf of the Knights Templar and in view of the fact that the operation is complete, then it's acceptable to surrender to Delta. What followed is what I imagine to be a very Scandinavian conversation. This is the operator.
Starting point is 00:46:41 You want to surrender to Delta? Can you put me through to the chief of operations at Delta? Well, the thing is, you're talking to someone with our, in a way, superior authority? Okay, just find out what you need to do and then call me on this phone right here, okay? Alright? Hmm, but what telephone number? Brilliant, bye. I haven't got the telephone number. Hello? Hello?
Starting point is 00:47:05 Eh. And then it's over. Star 69! Star where is it? I miss it! Well of course Brevik had again used a cell phone without a working SIM card, but thankfully Delta Force had finally arrived, although it did take them a while to find Brevik. As Delta Force made their way north, Brevik headed south.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Again, a girl saw Brevik in his police uniform and ran towards him. Coldly, Brevik asked her which person needed help, then he shot and killed her, just giving her that little bit of hope before snuffing her life out. He then stood at the shore and fired at a boat that was trying to save the kids were swimming for it. And that drove the boat away. Brevik then shot five more kids. He did, however, decide to spare at least a couple of the people who found themselves within his rifle sights. One older boy was spared because Brevik thought he looks like a conservative. He looks like one of us. So I'm not gonna shoot him another
Starting point is 00:48:05 That saved his life. It really did. No, you saw a picture of him. He had a crew cut Another much younger boy whose father Brevik had already murdered was spared because Brevik decided that he was not an indoctrinated cultural Marxist just yet. He had such a hard time killing white men. Yeah He was so sad about it. He was. But finally, a little over a minute after Brevitt killed his last victim, Delta Force found him and advanced. Some of them telling him to get on his knees, some telling them to lie on the ground.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Brevitt casually laid his rifle against a tree and sarcastically told them to make up their minds, kneeling or lying. Oh, God, you fucking, but then he also did the, he said that he arrived and he looked like Jesus coming out of the woods where he used his hands to the side like this
Starting point is 00:48:49 where he was like, you have me up? Like, well, it's the meme, the thing with the shrug meme. I have no idea what you're talking about. Shrug meme. Yeah, it's a face with two hands like this. Yeah, the shrug meme. People send it to you and then you want to punch them in the face.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Yeah, that's what he did. Yeah. Now, how come they didn't just to punch him in the face. That's what he did. Yeah. How come they didn't just fucking light his ass up? Because that's not what they do. It's not what they do because they say, truly, they say a life is a life to us. We treat you like everybody else, which is we don't believe in killing anybody for any reason. Every single person is treated exactly the same. If you would have shot at them, would they have lit his ass up? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, probably. Yeah, they definitely would.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But he didn't want to. He didn't want to be shot that way. He wanted to go to... he wanted to have his moment in front of the cameras. But as one officer pushed Brevik to the ground, Anders began babbling, saying that this was a politically motivated shooting because the country was being invaded by foreigners. He added that this was the start of hell, that it was going to get worse, and that a so-called third cell had still not been activated. But when they asked him if there was anyone else on the island besides Brevik, he finally
Starting point is 00:49:51 told the truth in both the island and in his life. There was only him. Meanwhile, the full extent of the carnage on Utoya Island was being seen by outside eyes for the first time. The buildings were full of the dead and dying, the shore was covered in bodies, rocks were stained red, and clothes covered in blood and shoes that had slipped off when kids ran in terror were strewn everywhere. They said that was one of the weirdest things, that there were shoes all over the place. Some of the survivors were in total shock, some were apathetic to
Starting point is 00:50:25 their rescue, and others remained terrified that anyone who approached them, especially authority figures, might try to kill them. I'd probably follow that apathetic, like, thanks for nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good work, guys. Good hustle. Yeah, they said that they would just kind of, they would refuse refuse to move and they would just have to like kind of carry them out Yeah, they're all comatose with shock. Yeah, but his emergency crews transported the injured off the island and the dead were counted Brevik was taken to a building that had been turned into a temporary headquarters for the police They're doing a long interview Breviks spewed bullshit for hours on end. I'd like to tell our audience to go ahead and if you are interested about the brain of a...
Starting point is 00:51:11 The one thing that Anders Brevik with his constant blabbing does for us is a view into this sad, lonely head of his. The sad, lonely head of a narcissist. If you read his interrogation and It's in what there's chunks of it in one of us and there's also like you can find his interrogation like reading through it really illustrates just how paper thin a human being Anders Bravick really was like he is a there's just like there's just nothing there. He's just some bored shitty Like there's just nothing there. He's just some bored, shitty online troll now kind of surprised at his own actions.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Was he like saying a lot of stuff that was in the manifesto? Absolutely. Well, yeah. After being told specifically that he didn't need to explain himself, they didn't fucking care. They were like shut up.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He insisted saying that he had sacrificed himself for his cause and he was prepared to suffer and be tortured For the rest of his life. He actually requested waterboard me waterboard water in this statement may go a long way towards explaining why Brevic to this day complains about his cushy life in prison because if there's anything extremists of all stripes share It's a fucking persecution complex. Yeah, he wants to be treated like a supervillain. He'll and The one satisfaction the Norwegian Justices gives me is the boredom with which they also react to Anders Bravik I find that also like
Starting point is 00:52:37 Appropriate where his boredom is angry But you can kind of see if you put him in an American cop like you can see the guys like beat them or being like you sick fuck Or like that kind of thing where like no, it's just one board man Expecting all of this like vitriol like he's expecting to get beat in their cell and like them all drag You know call them trash. You know like they're just as bored with him as he is with what he did Like it's this weird like whatever. You're just another one of these criminals that we deal with every day, essentially. Speaking further, Brevik made it seem as if he was a small part of a massive organization that was geared up to carry out similar attacks all over Europe.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He claimed that this organization, the Knights Templar Europe, had been set up in London in 2002 and had since gained delegates in 12 countries. You should meet my crazy girlfriend. She's so hot and amazing. She delegates in 12 countries. And you should meet my crazy girlfriend. She's so hot and amazing. She's just so good. She's in it too. She loves white people as much as I do. But she's in Canada right now.
Starting point is 00:53:33 She's in Canada. Don't call her. She's not working. She's so busy. Brevik then went on to try and explain his confluted Arabia theory, but stopped himself, saying that if the cops really wanted to know what he was all about, they would have to read his 1500 page manifesto. Getting right on it.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Now after going on about Muslims... Tell yourself copies. Yeah it is. That's grass roots, that's grass roots. Now after going on about Muslims for a bit, Brevik noticed that one of his fingers was bleeding which was most likely from a cut that was sustained when a skull fragment flew towards him after he shot someone in the face at close range.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Was he covered in blood? No. That was the weird thing about it. Like, why wasn't he covered in blood? He should have been. It's because he was far away. Because he was shooting people. No, he was shooting people at very close range.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It seemed as if they were like, from what I've seen, because you see all the pictures, like he was covered in gear. So maybe by the time they got all the stuff off of him You couldn't see it but he was it because also he never used his precious bayonet. No that he was talking about Yeah, he did shoot people but I do believe a lot of it Maybe it's like this again our gut nerds will very happily correct this Again, I respect you. But then, Nick, the idea of like, I think it blows out. So we think a lot of times if you shoot somebody from close range, it's not like exploding up at you. It's exploding out the back where the
Starting point is 00:54:57 exit wound is. Probably. But if you're shooting someone at very close range, maybe the skull just explodes. I think it did explode, but then maybe it's not as much juice. Yeah, maybe. I never done it. I don't know. Like the thing is a bunch of watermelons outside. I'm about to say, come on, let's have fun. You're talking about like our gun nerds out there. It's like, you guys know about shooting people in the head. You can tell us about, you can tell us about that.
Starting point is 00:55:21 That's not talking to our gun nerds. That's talking to the murderers. They never fail to know Every single thing that is true Well, Brevik immediately began freaking out when he noticed that he was bleeding He said that he'd already lost half a liter of blood He also said he had had too many energy drinks and then if he didn't get a drink he was gonna die of dehydration Yeah, so they gave him a soda. Yeah, But in the end the cut itself was less than a quarter of an inch long and was easily bandaged. This was the only injury under his brevic would
Starting point is 00:55:53 sustain. And this is also all of his, he's negotiating, he's trying to get him to like, he's like, you know, I'll give you the information that you seek, but there's things that I'm going to need. Yeah, you say, I needed a computer with Microsoft Word installed. I needed, no, and I need Wikipedia. And then he also said he, and then he got his Coke, he got a cigarette though. He didn't get a cigarette and he got his Pepsi's. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. Well, that was the one thing, they kept giving him the stuff. And after a while it's just like, everyone's like, just let one American homicide detective in there. Just let one in there. There isn't one mustache in the crew. Just one. Just hit his head there. There isn't one mustache in the crew.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Just hit his head against the table just one time. You're gonna get somebody in there. Like pee-pee-nice-coke, like the old affirmation. Poison him anything. Yeah. Well, steering Brevik back to the practical, the police asked him if there were any explosives back at his mother's duplex. In all serious, in all serious... Just vagina. explosives back at his mother's duplex. In all seriousness, in all seriousness, in all seriousness, Breviks said, quote, No, but they have a PC in the Fart Room. He called the cops. It was a PC. And he actually used the word the word Fart Room. Yeah. Yeah. Anything of interest in his mother's duplex was in the Fart Room, he said, while the rest could be found at his farm. Finally, Breviks said that while he was proud of his operation,
Starting point is 00:57:06 the killing itself was absolutely awful, later adding that, quote, it sucks to take a human life. Now, in this, I actually believe him. You know, we'll talk about it. Yeah. Well, I don't think he ever really expected to make it to Utoya Island, nor did he really want to. In fact, he flat-out said that if he had a choice,, quote unquote, had a choice, he would have skipped Otoya. But once he
Starting point is 00:57:28 was there, I think he convinced himself that he didn't have a choice. That is, if he wanted to keep believing his own bullshit. I think that this is the example of this sort of runaway narcissism that takes it to a clinical place, where he just, I think he felt nothing. When he's saying it sucks to take a human life. I think he didn't like it, but that's the thing is that he didn't like it like I don't like doing the dishes. But he will, yes, and it was a shallow affectation about what he just did. And that he, he does it time and time again. What makes him, I think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:06 people throw the term narcissists around, but I think part of the reason why I use it specifically with Anders Bravik is because he's shapeshifts, depending on who he's talking to. So I think there is a little bit of the, it sucks to take a human life. He's saying that to these police officers because there's a little bit of him that's trying to ingratiate himself with the police officers She's trying to make them think. Oh, he's just this political Kind of figure like I kept saying it's like I wish I didn't have to do this these they're all forcing me to do this This is all like everyone's making me do this because I have to do this horrible. He said there's a difference between brutality and tyranny. Like there was
Starting point is 00:58:45 like this, and he was like sometimes you have to do something brutal to get people to pay attention to your cause, but it's all this still like, but as you'll see, he didn't actually care. He didn't actually care. I mean, he talked about how awful it was to take a life. He talked about how he felt for the parents. He talked about how scared the kids were, and then he'd openly yawn. It would the next thing out of his mouth would be a yawn, and he'd ask how much longer the interview was gonna be because he was all tuckered out from his big day. Because they were really trying to get out of him like,
Starting point is 00:59:16 are there other terrorist cells? Like, are you about to, is this going to be a massive strike of terrorism across the entire city? Yeah, that's why they're like, yeah, fuck it, yeah, you can have a fucking computer with word who gives a shit and tell me that. They did the Norwegian thing, which is nice because they passive aggressive. We're like,
Starting point is 00:59:31 we will look at the, we will look at the circumstances of your arrest like they do with everybody and decide all of these things you can get. And so it had to go through the full red tape of the left wing government that had like, like, which in that way is nice, because then it took, like, eight weeks, and then they were like, unfortunately no, you cannot have a PC with the Wikipedia on it. Slide from your grave. Now, once the forensic team showed up, Brevik told them that he didn't want to have his photo taken, because as per his own instructions in his manifesto, a terrorist needed to control his own image.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Instead, Brevitt tried convincing them to use one of the photos he'd posted online, either the one where he was pretending to be a Freemason or the one where he cosplayed as a member of the Knights Templar. Was he able to run that past his press agent? It's so hard, these publicists, it's so hard to get him to pick up the phone
Starting point is 01:00:24 but I guess this is a big moment for him. This is his Grammys. They of course refused and took a picture of him looking tired in an armchair. Which is good. Again, they're doing a little bit. They're getting their little more subtle shots. Well, they're waiting until the trial for the big one. Yeah. Next, they told him to undress. He refused twice, but suddenly left up and started tearing his clothes off.
Starting point is 01:00:43 They stopped him and got him to slow down because they needed it for forensics, but once he was down to his underwear, he started jokingly doing bodybuilding poses for the camera. Everyone in the room just stared at him until he nervously laughed and acted normal. See again, that's where that true powerful European disdain comes in. The Norwegian Stone face. It's so much more powerful maybe in a way, cause like again, we would just beat the fucking shit out of
Starting point is 01:01:10 we'd stick a broomstick up his ass. But then like they're just that withering, I remember the look. It was just in Germany when we were doing our show in Berlin and the end I remember just being like, so where would you go after the show? It's like 1130. And they were like, we have you on the list for Sahatas club in Berlin.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And we're like, oh, great, we'll go hop in right now. We'll grab a drink and go to sleep. And they're like, that look, I'll never forget the look on the promoter's face when he was like, one does not go to the club until 1 32 a.m. Like that look, and I will never recoup. No. Like, it was very rough. I will never recoup from that look. Like it was very rough. So I can imagine a group of men.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You know, please, Rui, just get a beer. I just need to get this. I'm tired. Man, have you ever had to undress in front of the police? No. No, thank God. No, man. Well, I've been to jail.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And I remember the first time I went to jail and I had to undress in front of the police. They made me undress. Did you show them your but to jail and I had to undress in front of the police. They made me undress. Did you show them your butthole? I had to show them they had me. Lucky cops. The cops were like, all right, take you home. Completely naked.
Starting point is 01:02:13 They're like, all right, now turn around and bend over and talk. And I was like, what? And so I was just like, hey, what's going on? Hey, how are you doing? How am I doing? The cops like cough. I said cough, not talk! So my name is Larson, there's a lot of guys that say I look like one of the guys from Duck Dynasty.
Starting point is 01:02:33 They're not saying we're like, Schmuck Dynasty, you know. Meanwhile, police had found Breviks mother, Venka, and it hauled her into headquarters for an interrogation all her own. As the interview went on, as the interview went on, and the scope of what her son had done dawned on her, she naturally made it all about herself. Incredibly, she said that this was almost worse than her son being a homosexual. Think about this. Think about the fact that she said this. Like, that's wild to me. It explains a lot. Yeah, it really does. I mean, that may give you some insight as to why,
Starting point is 01:03:09 if Brevik was in fact gay, he never even entertained the idea of coming out. Because at this point, his mother, at this point, she thought that he had killed only 10 people, not 69, but even then, like 10 people, she's like, this is almost worse than having a child who's a homosexual. That is, it's wild. She was just obsessed, subset yet and the chance to give him herpes yet?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah, well she not for lack of trying Because they were super close, you know finally though the only person he ever kissed. I'm sorry. Yeah his mother Yeah, no he he had that one They ever kissed Talks about it. Do you think they butt-sizzard? I still don't think they ever kissed. The way she talks about it. Do you think they butt-sizzered? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Ha ha ha ha. Hold to hold. How I knew we would spend our lives. You can fart into my mouth and I fart in your fart and we- We fart and you'll put your farts in my fart. Ha ha ha. Uh, well finally, Venka found a way to make the deaths of all these people all about herself, saying a refrain that she would repeat over and over again in the coming years.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Sobbing, she would say, I'm the unhappiest mother in Norway. Yeah. This is father was like, I wish he killed himself. Yeah, his father was checked out. No, when it came time for Breviks pre-trial hearing, he demanded that he be allowed to wear his night's Templar costume. It's not a costume, it's a uniform!
Starting point is 01:04:32 This request was roundly rejected. Are you fucking idiot now? He was also disappointed that there were only seven people present at the hearing, because phase three of his plan was entirely dependent on a media circus. But on this day, there were only court officials, lawyers, and Brevik himself present when he was charged. Now when it comes to punitive measures in Norway, there is a wild misconception when it comes to their sentencing. Famously, Norway has a maximum penalty of 21 years in prison for any crime, including murder.
Starting point is 01:05:02 But what people often ignore or just don't know about is that those 21 years can be extended indefinitely every five years for another five years. If the convicted prisoner still represents a danger to society. I mean, it's a massive pain in the ass that every five years we're going to have to hear from Anders Bravik, but that's how their system works. We still got eight years to go before that starts happening. Oh, we already, we've already heard from him twice. He was in 2022.
Starting point is 01:05:27 He had another thing because they were allowed to, because technically he got a parole hearing at 11 years. Yeah. Well, he gets to go because you have to serve 11 years. Yeah. He sued for it. Yeah. We had to hear from Manson all the time. But Manson was fun. Well, did we have to or did we get to? Yeah, we got to, did we get to?
Starting point is 01:05:54 Exactly Charles Manson had a skill. Yeah, you know, he was a beautiful voice. Yeah But when it came to Anders Brevik He was almost sent to a hospital for the rest of his life instead of a prison The only person who stopped that from happening was Anders Brevik of a prison. The only person who stopped that from happening was Anders Brevik. See, pre-trial, several forensic psychiatrists examined Brevik to see if he was responsible for his own actions or if he was legally insane when he did what he did. They wanted him to be insane. Yeah, interestingly though, during those interviews, Brevik was treated as if he was the most dangerous man in the world, what he always wanted. For the first 11 sessions,
Starting point is 01:06:24 the psychiatrist refused to be left alone in a room with him, so he always wanted. For the first 11 sessions, the psychiatrist refused to be left alone in a room with him. So he was placed in a corner with his arms shackled to his belt behind three tables while two guards looked on. On the 12th session, they locked Brevik in a plexiglass cube like he was fucking Magneto. Yeah, he was getting off on all this. And he was like interrogating the psychologists.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He was like trying to ask them if they were Marxists if they believed in multiculturalism And they all just kind of the withering looks of a bunch of people being like so why would that be important to you? Yeah, like that's all they would do, you know, like not giving them jack shit turn it back on him Now if you do something like this, aren't you by like Aren't you crazy? No, but you know, yeah, I told crazy legally from what I have understand my limit understanding But it's mostly like you in that moment don't understand that what you're doing is wrong or like that you are so No, yes, he did well He understood completely yeah, cuz he told the cops in the interrogation like it really sucks to take a human life
Starting point is 01:07:20 I wish I didn't have to do that. I feel bad for the parents. He knew exactly He knew that what he was doing was wrong. He just thought it was justified. So what's the shithead who fancies himself a terrorist? He's a missionary style killer. So he had a plan. Like he had a whole thing that he was like trying to execute with them. The murders were something else. They weren't like, it's not like with a normal, like a regular quote unquote serial killer where it's sexually motivated or power motivated or one of these other type of things like it didn't come from inside. He believes which I still like take it back because like I will never give him the he likes being a terrorist. He wants to be called terrorist. I will still call him a mass killer, but the
Starting point is 01:08:01 he knew what he was doing was bad. So he's not crazy. But what is his mental condition then? An asshole. He's a fucking asshole. But lots of people are assholes. He's clinically an asshole. A narcissist. Like he has narcissistic personality disorder.
Starting point is 01:08:14 He's got something. He's just not, he's not. That's what he was diagnosed with. It was narcissistic personality disorder. And in the extreme. Yes. But as the psychiatrist spoke with him more and more, they came to believe that he was
Starting point is 01:08:25 possibly a paranoid schizophrenic. And with good reason. Brevik regularly used self-styled terms like national Darwinists, suicidal humanism, and suicidal Marxists, which the doctors judged to be a part of a psychosis. And when I say with good reason, I mean that he showed all the markers of being a paranoid schizophrenic without actually being a paranoid schizophrenic. Because he showed up acting as if he was a the leader of a gigantic movement, this huge terrorist organization with thousands of members and sleeper cells and that he was a sleeper cell
Starting point is 01:08:59 and that he did all this kind of shit and also like this was all gonna happen the year 2040 Muslims were gonna take over Europe and saying all of this stuff which is like it's interesting because that's the core beliefs of these right-wing groups but it's the him just expressing them they were like oh this guy's fucking nuts like no that's what a lot of people fully believe is happening. Now what is a Darwinist? Is that like someone who dresses like a turtle? The idea that only the strong can survive and this idea that there's social Darwinism, which is a term that was social that comes up a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:34 That's again, it's a Nazi thought. And suicidal humanism, this is one of the dangers of this manifesto and what happened after the fact. Like even I saying left wing fascism is a small little blip or like of this like mistake type thing that allow you to talk about it. But suicidal humanism, I looked up, I looked up all these terms to see where else they popped up.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And the only other place that they popped up was this thing called the Chalcedon Foundation, which is what's called an American Christian Reconstructionist Organization, which is all about how gay people should be executed, how unruly children should be executed, how like they wanna bring out, and talk about Sharia law.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Like it's exactly Sharia law, but it's Christian Sharia law. Like women are second, women should be not vote. They should only be childbearing entities. That fun term of Yolkata. Yolkata. Yeah. Additionally, Brevik talked at length
Starting point is 01:10:22 about a massive secret organization made up of Knights Templar cells, thousands of them, who were already to strike at any moment. Now, at this point, police had surmised that Brevik had acted alone, that no such network existed. Therefore, this organization was thought to be a schizophrenic fantasy. But what psychiatrists didn't take into account was that while the Knights Templar claim was a fantasy, it was more a wish than a belief.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And his made-up terminology was simply the creation of a narcissist who believed that he was so smart that he could see the world in a way that no one else could. The psychiatrist in the end said that she believed that he was the loneliest man she's ever met. Yep. Yeah. That he would, he's so... That was like the thing that she mostly diagnosed with with which is like this almost like a homicidal loneliness But when Brevik realized that he could be declared insane and therefore his manifesto would be sullied He insisted that he be held accountable for his actions This was in spite of the fact that he already knew that the vast majority of people thought that he, along with his uniforms, awards, decorations, and titles were fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Everybody was roasting him. Yeah. During his next round of interviews with psychiatrists, he toned down his rhetoric considerably, calling him a foot soldier instead of a messiah, claiming that everything he'd said before was just an act, a role that he felt he was expected to play. Therefore, Anders Brevik was judged to be a narcissist, narcissistic personality disorder, and he was very much liable for his crimes then. And this, Anders Brevik played a similar game as his left-wing
Starting point is 01:11:55 mirror image, male bomber Ted Kaczynski. We realize they're kind of close. They are the mirror image of each other. They absolutely are. They live in the middle of nowhere, you know, like no friends. Well, just the idea that they're smarter than everybody else and they're gonna put their pain on everybody else because they don't get them. But wasn't Ted Kaczynski actually smart?
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah. No, Ted Kaczynski was brilliant. He was genius. And then we'd be, MK Ultra kind of fucked up his brain. Yeah, and in Anders Brava, he wasn't actually smart. No, he's an asshole. No, he was an asshole and an idiot. Yeah. So yeah. So he's worse than him. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go America. Well, when Kaczynski's lawyers told him that his only possible defense was to plead not guilty by reason of insanity, Kaczynski refused and took the maximum punishment so he could maintain the integrity of his manifesto, industrial
Starting point is 01:12:45 society and its future. And there's a lot of people that rag on him for his spelling errors inside of his manifesto, but I also want to say you guys rag on us for mispronunciation and you kind of missed the point. That's the problem here, right? Is that you're missing the point of the manifesto? You're not seeing the forest with the trees. Read it again. So you're comparing yourself to Anders Bravitt? No! He's comparing stuff to Ted Kazinsky. But while Kazinsky was quickly tucked away in Colorado's Super Max prison, never to be heard from again. We did a good job on that one. Yeah, just fucking put him in a box. Put him up there with Timmy D. Mouve and Khalid Sheikh Muhammad. Let them
Starting point is 01:13:20 all enjoy each other's company. What a fun lunch That must be. Unders Brevitt got a full trial in which he was given a platform to espouse his extremist right wing agenda. Or he thought he was going to get that chance to do it. What Brevitt didn't expect though was that the trial was not broadcast and not a single person in the room took him seriously. In fact, most everyone was visibly bored and highly impatient anytime he went off on a tedious rant, which was often it's the coolest. That's the oh again That's where they rock Of graphic designers, you know cuz like they're all have like, you know like the clear glasses like Norway everybody's like very fashionable And cool and techno and like them all just seem like arms crossed just like
Starting point is 01:14:04 When he's over. Just so many. Did you see the judge sigh? The judge was like, let's go, go ahead. Yeah, if anything, Breviks own actions during his trial was what helped defang him because he showed everyone just how small he really was. Now the prosecution maintained that Brevik was a mad man who had lost it five years earlier after he quit the progress party, shut down his diploma mill, lost all his money, moved back in with his mother, and disappeared into World of Warcraft. Nope, they also showed his quote-unquote
Starting point is 01:14:36 film, which I will now reveal why I say quote-unquote film, was because it was a fucking slide show. It wasn't a movie, it was a slide show. It's hard, man, editing's hard. It was 99 images. It was like Soviet troops taking Berlin, you're like, this is the beginning of Marxist, cultural Marxism. You know, it's photoshopped images of Muslim women pregnant with grenades.
Starting point is 01:14:55 That's impossible. Pictures of them. I can't handle it. Pictures of refugees entering Europe, so on and so forth. And as a soundtrack, Brevik used church music, European electronica, and the soundtrack from the PC game Age of Conan. He used the soundtrack from a PC game. Mm-hmm. While everyone else in the court was just sort of puzzled over this glorified 2011
Starting point is 01:15:18 YouTube dump, Brevik openly wept as his quote-unquote film was shown in open court. And this really like made me rethink like 2010 to 2012 YouTube. Oh, sure. Because you know we used to show like- I love those slide shows. We used to show those all the time. At our old live shows you know that we used to do back in Queens where we would just show videos like we every month we had a new fucking piece of bullshit that was just like this. And it never occurred to me that the people who posted them
Starting point is 01:15:48 were taking it deadly seriously. And they thought it was the best thing that anyone had ever produced. That it meant a lot to them. It meant so much. What are you gonna do? They don't know art. That's why you need to left us.
Starting point is 01:16:01 That's why you must have left us. You have to. You're making all the stuff. As far as what Breviks' defense was, he claimed self-defense against the threat of multiculturalism and Islam, and presented his manifesto as the evidence that justified his actions. Yeah, he wrote his ending statement. He never expected to get off. He just wanted to use this as a platform.
Starting point is 01:16:22 At one point, he took to the witness stand and brought along a lengthy written statement, which he read in a fast, somewhat high-pitched monotone. Brevik hoped for applause throughout, but instead got sighs, shrugs, and yawns. This is where the deep loneliness really comes in, because there was this kind of thought in his head. This is where he's delusional and bad at everything. Where he thought that he was gonna read this out and everyone's gonna be like, oh wow. Yeah, never thought of it that way. I never thought about it that way.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Anders, you're fucking incredible. And it's nah, they are just like, again, no outrage either. Not people like, damn you. Wait, I think he also thought he was gonna get, I think he would have accepted that also gladly. But it was just like, he thought it was gonna be televised or something? Yeah, he did, he thought it was gonna be televised.
Starting point is 01:17:10 But he knew- He thought the whole world was coming to a screaming halt for Anders Bravik. And that everyone, he's finally gonna, the revulsion and the celebration, all at once, and he'd be at his, like I think in his head, he's like gonna put me at a podium,
Starting point is 01:17:23 and I'm gonna zig-high-ole, and everyone's gonna be like, yeah, finally we get to do it too and the other thing is that you could do it at any time, you shouldn't. You know, like it's difficult to do it. Yeah. And it's weird because it's like he thinks it's like a thing of honor but he's there zig-high-ling and it's like, all right, go back to your fucking hole. That is what they did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Yeah. And Brevik bulldozed through that written statement. Even after the judge told him, hey, did you give you 30 minutes? 30 minutes up. And the judge asked him, like, are you done yet? And Brevik pathetically said, I'm only on page six of 13.
Starting point is 01:17:55 She should've cut him off though. I do, and that's the one thing. He's been like, just fucking cut him the fuck off. But they said that it would be good for people to hear how much of a moron he is essentially It could have just taken it out of his hands and fucking pissed on it in front of him It would have been very good. They don't do it in public spaces in Norway. They are they are very clean Yeah, and on and on Brevik went reading faster and faster just so he could get to the end all while stopping to complain
Starting point is 01:18:20 That he'd already convinced it down to 13 pages from 20. I don't know what you want from me. I'm already convinced again. I've got to get this Microsoft word away from him. Single space, double space? I mean, it is single space. I would imagine. Finally, Brevik finished, and predictably, the first public reading of his ideals have been met with nothing more than utter boredom.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Now, that's not to say that Anders Brevik's manifesto isn't dangerous. It is. It is still. It's highly dangerous. He got enough fan mail where he complained that he wasn't given enough stamps to reply to everyone. And as we've mentioned twice already, the Christchurch shooter was inspired by the Manifesto. Breviks could shout out. We can talk all the shit we want about him, but these ideas are fucking extremely dangerous.
Starting point is 01:19:00 If you look up the stupid little terms he uses, you can see how it proliferates among a bunch of other like hate groups and they use it as new ways to talk and they look up to him. This is the thing about little people, like little shitheads that are looking up to him. But it's very interesting because we all make fun of him for and kind of attack him for. They view as a badge of honor. They are accepting this ridicule because they have this belief that all pioneers, all prophets are ridiculed
Starting point is 01:19:33 as they're ruled out, which is sometimes true. But you got to, I think people need to understand that life is an arc. I mean, you gotta think about like at the end of your life, they'll look upon your life and see, oh, he wasn't a little person, he did all this, blah blah blah blah blah, in this moment, you could see it didn't, it doesn't do anything. There is no end to this arc, it is not working, the thing you do is not gonna work, but they look up to him as if
Starting point is 01:20:03 he's like, I'm a shitheaded with no talent I could get on TV too. Yeah, but like if you send him fan mail, aren't you then just like watched forever? There were people that there was one guy in particular That was proliferating all like during the trial like getting all of his shit out there like, you know facilitating You know fan mail doing all this shit and they found out it was just some dumpy fucking South Carolina. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. And then, and then we got a Dylan roof. Yep. Breviks heroes, however, did not stand behind him. Fjord man himself. Yeah. Breviks favorite author was called to testify. Predictably, he was found to be a short, ugly little fella
Starting point is 01:20:42 in his 30s. Short is not the problem. Right? Right? Most of a good short man is more powerful than a good tall man. I don't think that's true. It is true. I don't think that's true in any way whatsoever. A good short man is better.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Is it? Than a tall good man. Just saying it doesn't make it real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. But there aren't short good men still looked down on. Only physically. Only physically.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Only physically. Allegorically, I know what you're saying. And it's not a good room. Well, Fjordman roundly rejected Brevik as insane and said that he'd done a disservice to the anti-Islam movement by sullying it with blood. I'm sick of all of my hate being filled with this murder. Can't we just hate?
Starting point is 01:21:23 Brevik was further humiliated when the only part of his trial that was actually televised was his psychiatric review. It painted him as, from my point of view, a clinical little bitch who was unable to tolerate frustration, experience guilt, or maintain relationships. Brevick proved their point by having emotional outbursts multiple times on live TV because he wasn't allowed to respond in real time. Yes, literally what he did. Literally, that is, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:54 The psychiatrist continued by saying the Brevik was a quote, lonely, deeply lonely person who desperately wanted a community. Yeah. But when he didn't find one, even amongst extremists like Fjordman, he created a fictional society with himself at the center. Because he couldn't be a part of a community in which he wasn't the leader and king of that little world. Like it could never be he was a toy acting like a king. He should have just like, you gotta be amongst us, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Now after the testimony, the cameras were turned off and Brevik was allowed to respond. He said that he'd never been lonely. He's got a lot of friends. You'll be surprised. I tried to throw a birthday party and not everybody could fit in a restaurant. And he definitely been out on a whole bunch of dates.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I'm always dating everywhere I go. I know every happy hour and I know when I go, I know every happy hour. And I know when the people, I know how to dance. Cha cha, with the whole different, every lady, big bucks and big heavy breast. I love a lady. And I, ooh, I hate the penis. I hate the big, veiny, delicious penis.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I, I'm cha, I am one of many. But after the f**king bitch, everybody likes me, nobody hates me. But after the farce that was Breviks Trial finally ended, he was sentenced to the maximum of 21 years in prison, which is going to be extended by five years every time there's an opportunity to do so. The only thing I'm concerned about is the fact that they, because they're so like forthright in that country, again, it's not like us where we just been like, even if this was a rule, like we'd be like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:23:36 But like, they seriously listen to him every five years. Every five years he's gonna roll out. They treat everybody the same. I respect that. I understand. I absolutely respect that. I absolutely respect that I get it Every single person I mean they believe in rehabilitation, but if he just gets better at lying it's gonna be bad They're not gonna ever let him out. I I don't I don't want them to know I
Starting point is 01:23:57 Really wish they just someone would knock the shit out of him. He's in isolation He can't go he's gonna go his whole life without ever getting the shit cute that I do believe I do believe if he gets out of jail, he's not gonna last long. But who knows? I don't think he'll ever get out of jail. But no, I don't think he's ever been beat- maybe he was probably beaten up as a kid a few times. Maybe. Well, as of today, Brevik is 12 years in, but he's certainly made a lot of noise since
Starting point is 01:24:19 being put away. In fact, one might say that he's almost more well known today for complaining about his living conditions than for his political beliefs. Even though he basically lives in a nice one-bedroom apartment with a dishwasher, microwave, washing machine, flat-screen TV, and access to a basketball court and workout equipment, he still paints himself as a tortured victim. He's got a better apartment than a lot of comedians. Mm-hmm. He should have to wash his own dishes
Starting point is 01:24:50 Did that for a while there was a period of time where he was trying to get these various favors But he was so used to his mother Cleaning for him doing everything that he literally would like leave all these messes and they would be like Anders You're not going to get fucking I don't know what it is like boo boo time whatever they called it for when he gets to go to the basketball cart Like you can't go to recess unless you do this and then he would like pout and shit and finally he started cleaning his room For the first time was he in total isolation? Yes, he's in complete and total isolation. So he doesn't talk to anybody other than like two guards? There's two guys he sees.
Starting point is 01:25:26 There's other two isolated prisoner guys that he can kind of see. Well most famously, he complained that he was unhappy with his PlayStation 2. Instead, he wanted a PlayStation 3 because it offered in his opinion more suitable adult games. I'm sick of Sonic. He actually, it was Rayman. He's like, Rayman Origins is a game for three-year-olds. It's for three-year-olds. I'm an adult. And'm sick of Sonic. He actually, it was Rayman. He's like Rayman Origins is a game for three years. It's for three year olds. I'm an adult and I would be treated as such. I want to get Monopolis.
Starting point is 01:25:53 He also at one point threatened to starve himself unless he was given access to a sofa and a bigger gym. Go ahead. They gave him a leather sofa. A leather sofa? Yeah. Which honestly is the worst of all the sofa. I hate leather sofas. It's an opinion. It's hot in the summer and it's cold in the winter. I don't like it either, but I've had nice times. I just think it's a punishment in and of itself. See just like his rambling... A futon is punishment. Death. I would believe. See just like his rambling manifesto, Breviks complaints go on and on and will likely do so until he finally dies in prison. Likewise, his manifesto itself is receding into history.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Like every other person who uses murder to get their point across, Breviks' legacy will not be his ideas. Instead, he will be remembered not as a brave member of the Knights Templar who kicked off a revolution, but rather as a murderous fool. His only remaining role in this world is, appropriately, to complain about the supposedly cruel conditions in Norwegian prison, which is, in all reality, the nicest prison system in the entire world. You know what a revolution I wish that he had concentrated on more, the dance, dance revolution. Because that would have done a lot more.
Starting point is 01:27:09 You know, and we've watched a lot of RuPaul's Drag Race together. Yeah, we really are. I'm on season six right now. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. And I think that- Jinx one soon. Love ya.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Truly believe that if he just let some bass in his walk, he would have done a lot better than if he had learned to serve Yeah, versus kill. Yeah, I mean he is pretty good at a read But I want you to say honest guys out there if you're writing a manifesto right now And if you want to go out there and kill I would say obvious and don't do that you better work Right, and I need you to take that energy and put it out on the dance floor. Yeah, and up the font size. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Up the font size. I didn't see the manifesto was a nightmare to read. Yeah. Very small font. Actually, I'd take it back. He couldn't read it all. Yeah. He was terrible.
Starting point is 01:27:55 He was terrible at the read. Oh, yeah. He can't do. No, he's not a funny man. No. He's not funny. He's not charismatic. He's not even a good terrorist.
Starting point is 01:28:03 No. He's just a shithead that killed a lot of very easy people and is extremely sad that he did so. Low fish game. Yes, he was low fish game. Definitely not serving cunts. Which is interesting because you think it'd be bad. But it's good.
Starting point is 01:28:18 It is good though, that's what we learned. Alright, go to patreon.com slash podcast on the left if you want to see us do this because it is there Visually, you can also see the patreon feed You get last three on the left live and you can comment and be part of all this shenanigans We do that on the Tuesdays go check it out and go see the stupid. It's the tick tock And it'll be on the left because if it on the tick tock and Instagram and LP on the left I don't know what it does. The TikTok?
Starting point is 01:28:45 People like it's where Jesus is. No, it's not. Jesus is nowhere on there except for the, it's just China. Hold on. Jesus isn't Chinese. I was hoping. I was hoping.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I was hoping. I mean, go to Twitch.tv slash LPNTV. We got some really good stuff coming out this week. And I think we got, yeah, tears of a clown was really fun this week with Carolina Yeah, yeah Carolina came on and talked about 80 sitcoms this week. She did really great someplace underneath We got brighter side. Yeah, it's gonna come back because we are intrepid technical director Eric I want you to wish him luck because it's gonna be a
Starting point is 01:29:18 Daddy So he's got to go in paternity leave which is intense. Yep. And also this Monday We're gonna have our monthly no dogs in space live stream. So this Monday. Oh, yeah, it's it's leap day today The way I'm thinking about things the dates are all fucked up. I got to look it up wrong. Yeah, this March 4th at 6 p.m. PST 9 p.m. at, um, six PM PST, nine PM EST. We're going to be doing no dogs in space live. Gonna be showing some videos. Going to be doing a good vinyl hall. I might do a more Garcin vinyl hall, but I haven't quite decided on these people. Um, I also, I was going to say on Wednesday at a five PM PST is going to be the brighter
Starting point is 01:30:01 side with Amber and ISO. Come on, show up, bring us your problems. We'll give you the positives to your problems. And then following after that we're going to stay on every other Wednesday, but we're moving back an hour. Yeah, great. Love it. And then someplace underneath is going to be every Wednesday too. So it's going to be really fun. I, um, uh, it was one other thing I wanted to bring up coming, coming, coming LPN deep dive soon. LPN deepives soon. Go check it out. It is on its own Feed now I am going to be doing with my intrepid human wife holding the McNally We are going to be doing a review of doing two. I'm seeing it again for the second time tonight. I cannot wait Yeah, it is very good. It's real fucking good. Are um are you and holding just doing one episode? Are you gonna do multiple? No, do one just one one? We will- we'll- we'll help.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Okay. We'll help everyone. Alright. You people need that. Cuz I'm sure you won't understand another one. Oh, and also, so next week, we're coming back. Last podcast on left is doing one of a fan favorite things that we've done the last couple years. I'm really excited to do it for you guys.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Um, and then, we got another super long series coming right after that. We've got a lot of work. I'm excited for 2024. We got a lot of good subjects this year now next. I'll give you a little hint for next week brackets brackets Brackets March madness don't do Atlantic University All right everybody see you next week Hail Satan again Hail Norway. Yeah. Yeah sure. I like I like norway Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's not the same but it's never I've never been in Norway. I want to go to know you know, I love my Iceland Well, no, it's culturally Scandinavian, but some people say that that means nothing
Starting point is 01:31:50 Well, I mean there's differing opinions on everything if you keep this up. I'm gonna Ikea your cars The grease counselor I haven't said and? Let's see here. Um. Nah. All right. Let's get out of here. Bye, fuckers. This show is made possible by listeners like you.
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