Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 578: Patty Hearst Part I - 57 Days
Episode Date: June 22, 2024This week the boys crack open the tale of one of history's most infamous true-crime cases: the 1974 kidnapping of Patty Hearst and the story of her involvement with The Symbionese Liberation Army. ...
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Now, I would like to start today, first of all, by thanking Marcus for the work that you've done already.
Right? The work that I've done already. Right? The work that I've done already.
You've just done so much work on this.
He's talking like he doesn't appreciate what you did.
I did.
And it's not just me.
Carolina put in a ton of work on this.
Yeah.
Shaw put in a ton of work on this.
Joel put in a lot of work on this.
This is a big team effort.
But now I kind of feel like.
I'm starting to feel guilty.
Don't feel guilty.
He does this to himself.
But if you look at him right now, and Eddie said this to him is that like, with all the
work and with all the reading and the gravitas, the classes, because he's wearing, he is dressed
like a liberal college teacher in the 1960s.
No, you look like you're trying to talk me into like getting arrested. See, that's what I feel like.
Death to the fascist insect.
Because of this story,
Yeah, yeah, you look like a guy like, I feel like a trembling 15-year-old heiress
who's like, can you change me?
I am far more fashionable than the Symbionese Liberation Army.
Welcome to the last podcast on the left.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus parks. Hi, I'm fatty.
Her's funny name. It's not funny for last name.
Henry Zabrowski, fatty hurts. Yeah. I'm Patty burst bigger than the last.
Yeah. See, not as big as the net. There's so many ways to make fun of the name,
even though she's a victim.
Patty Burst is Ed Larson.
Ooh, so much sizzler.
You hear that groan?
That's the belt.
And of course, our subject today is Patty Hearst,
the kidnapping of Patty Hearst and the subsequent odyssey
that she went through afterwards.
This is a classic example of a name I've heard and a type of story I've heard and the various
scant details that I have known over all the years.
And you always kind of think like, Oh, I know the Patty Hearst case, Stockholm syndrome.
She goes into Rob's bank.
She's rich lady, but she hangs out with these crazy revolutionaries.
And you know, I, you never think about it, but the story itself is
Amazing. Yes, and it's huge. Yeah, I never really knew much about this This has been very exciting and especially because I've always like hated
William Randolph Hearst, you know, just naturally just because I have to and you know the Hearst family because of Deadwood
So what I knew about Patty Hearst is like before this before this, I'm like, oh, she's just
some criminal like the rest of them.
And then you start learning about this shit and all of a sudden, you know, you were like,
oh, we've been fed bullshit for all these years.
And that's the power of books.
And that's why I read the Bible to the homeless people around my house every day to teach
them about how Noah fucked his family.
Boo-wocks.
Boo-ah-ks. Boo-ah-ks.
Now out of all the true crime stories of the 20th century, it's generally accepted that
the top three, or at least the top three by name recognition, are O.J. Simpson, the Lindbergh
baby, and today's subject, the kidnapping of Patty Hertz.
That fucking baby was a criminal, dude.
That baby fucking went, he went, he brought out the automatic weapons.
I can't fucking believe that.
That freaked me out.
The whole time I thought the baby was the victim.
And I was going through all this shit.
I was like, motherfucker, that baby's a serial killer?
Fucking nuts, man.
Fucking Bandolero.
Fucking debunk festival going on here.
Oh, Bandolero's are going to play an important part in this story later on.
Believe you me.
Well, 50 years ago on February 4th, 1974, the extraordinarily wealthy granddaughter
of media mogul William Randolph Hearst was kidnapped from her Berkeley apartment by a
far left wing militant cult who called themselves the Symbionese Liberation Army, the SLA.
Yeah, dude, the fucking eight-headed snake.
Hell yeah, man, the Sybian Army, man.
They worked with Howard Stern back in the day, man.
Yeah, I believe.
Wasn't Jesse Jane in this?
Or was Jenna Jameson a member of the Sybian Liberation Army?
Do your own research, I always say.
That's how you know when the civilian liberation army is coming though, you hear that...
These horses don't move!
What's most remembered about Patty Hearst, however, is that she helped her captors rob a bank less than two months after her capture right after the SLA released a photograph of Patti dressed as a revolutionary
Holding an automatic weapon in front of the SLA flag looking real fucking cool real fucking scary to the squares at the time
And also kind of attractive. Yeah now since the SLA's beliefs were strictly political
Patti Hurst was vilified on the right for her participation in some
of the SLA's crimes, which included multiple cold-blooded murders.
That being said, those on the left also have their opinions on Patty, mostly because she
was born into an extremely privileged and sheltered life.
Privilege and shelter doesn't even really even come close to what she was.
She was a, she's like the last unicorn.
Yeah. Like I was privileged and sheltered. She was fucking taken away to a castle.
She had a nice time. Yeah.
The Hearst family is still to this day, the 14th richest in America. And Patty's grandfather,
William Randolph Hearst was one of the most visible and well-known symbols of the American
ruling class oligarchy of his time.
He's sort of like how we view Jeff Bezos today.
I actually think that Jeff Bezos is nicer than William Randolph Hearst.
I don't know, I'd like to put him in the ground myself.
We'll figure it out.
Now taking those facts into account, it may be tempting to look at Patty Hearst in a
less than sympathetic light.
After all, when Patty Hearst was kidnapped, she was indeed slumming it in
a bad neighborhood in Berkeley, California. She was the very definition of
the girl Pulp sang about in the song Common People. But when you reduce this
story to its most basic form, Patty Hearst was a young 19 year old woman who
survived by her own wits and strength of brutal kidnapping,
months of torture, and multiple sexual assaults perpetrated by men who also saw Patty Hearst
as almost a different species because of her background. Now with the Patty Hearst story,
it's important to know the historical context. We know. It always is.
That's why I love these series.
But this historical context are my two favorite words in the English language.
Besides I'm coming.
This is a this story.
It's interesting because it's it is important to set the context because it's nice for us because it's modern history.
Yeah. And it's something I can try to understand.
Except it's another time when I another time. And I'm coming. Listen, guys, communists, I hear you. All right. I'm
trying to read it. I tried to read the theory. All right. I don't understand a word of it.
And so this is far as I went. I did as much as I could though. This time as far as communism
goes, it looks good on paper, but it's obviously failed every single time. But yeah, there,
but just 50,000 bearded men just sit out loud.
But true communism has never actually been tried.
Yes, that is the idea.
And that's why we'll get there.
Next time I need a nap, one of them could talk.
Well, this happened in the mid 1970s,
which was a time of extreme inequality and social unrest
when crime was at levels
we can barely imagine today.
And a fair amount of those crimes were politically motivated.
There were bombings by leftist radicals.
That's the crazy thing about the 70s is that there was so much crime in that decade that
there were bombings like throughout and nobody talks about them anymore.
Man, everyone always talks about how this is the craziest worst time ever.
It's like in the 60s they used to like kill presidents.
Yeah.
You know?
Like, like.
What do you mean?
Like today is the craziest worst time ever?
It's like.
It's not.
No.
No.
No.
No.
The 70s were, and then the 70s made the 60s kind of look cute.
Yeah.
Because what happened after what was like, because at least the 60s had this sort of like
ideology attached to it in a way,
where it had this sort of like rising youth movement,
where the 70s was all about the absolute abject failure
of that movement and what kind of led to,
how that changed America and to where we're at today.
Yeah, the hippie peace and love
turned into coming into beer cans.
Amen, ain't nothing wrong with coming into a beer can as long as that beer can is my wife.
Also, you had racially motivated murders, both white and black. You had the KKK,
you had the zebra murders, and at the highest levels of power, you had the Watergate scandal.
Everybody's a fucking criminal. In the middle of all this was Patty Hearst, who became a symbol of economic inequality
while also further establishing the belief in the right that America was being murdered
by its young people.
Patty was indeed brainwashed, but not with the SLA's political ideology like many people
assume.
Instead, Patty was
brainwashed into believing that because it appeared as if she'd fully joined the
SLA, she would be gunned down on site by the FBI if she were to ever leave. If
you're asking why she didn't escape on her own when she had hundreds of chances,
it's really as simple as that. At some point during this her saga with the SLA She made several moves in order to ingratiate herself to her captors in order to not number one be killed from the inside
But then in those moves
made herself
Optically a fucking villain she made herself a criminal and at that point if you know if they're not negotiating
And you got your family and you don't know that your family is constantly working in the background, trying
to find a way to find you, you believe in your mind, you are fucked. You are on camera
with an assault rifle during a bank robbery. You know you're fucked. And guess who's not
too fucking good with trigger discipline either. The FBI. And they're like, and these people,
like they're going to fucking kill you.
Yeah. She's basically an undercover agent for her own survival. Yes! That's actually a really fucking
good way of putting it. Yeah. And indeed, after almost two years on the run from the FBI, that's
years, not months, Patty was arrested and tried for the crimes in which she participated. And to
be fair, there was plenty of evidence to support the opinion that she'd
fully bought into the SLA's political philosophy and their terroristic tactics.
It goes real deep. She goes deep. Though honestly, she Joaquin Phoenix'd it.
And into women.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She Joaquin Phoenix'd it and then unfortunately she,
instead of making the master, she made Joker.
of making the master she made Joker.
But what nobody knew then and what a lot of people still don't know now is that from nearly the beginning of her ordeal Patty Hearst never once bought into what
the SLA was selling and had one goal during her entire ordeal. Patty Hearst
was only concerned with survival and the journey she took
with the SLA as a result is one of the most bizarre, fascinating and incredible
stories I've ever heard. Besides Lord of the Rings. It is. No, Lord of the Rings is
better. It is. As far as epic journeys go, yes. Lord of the rings is better. And this is the similar really in for Patty. Yes. Now, in case you hadn't noticed, this is going
to be a pro Patty podcast. Sure. Sure. Sure. Anybody who wants objectivity, good luck.
Because it doesn't exist in the Patty. Her story. It just doesn't. This is also one of
these stories where there are so many perspectives coming in on this that it's
We are going to try to balance it
But we're gonna try to be as fair as we possibly can we anybody who tells you that their objective is lying
Fucking lying to you. This is very subjective if you watch the CNN quote-unquote
Top documentary of all time you want to talk about fucking subjective. Well, we'll get to that here in a second
I mean our main source of this series is Patty Hearst out-of-print
Autobiography every secret thing in which every moment of her time with the SLA is documented in detail
It's extremely readable and it's very entertaining. Why is it out of print? It just you know, some books just go out of print
It's very long. Oh, yes. It's really long and it is like, it is detailed.
It's exhausting.
Extremely detailed.
Yeah.
I mean, you're following her throughout this entire journey.
It is an exhausting read.
And obviously we're covering this from in that, in this part, in this episode, from
her point of view.
So this is all from her head.
She had a whole version of the story, which is a technically she did the last podcast
version of the story.
Like she's playing them how I would play the characters in my head throughout the novel,
which is hilarious.
It's not a novel.
It is nonfiction.
It's nonfiction, but they don't get scary until you look from the outside.
Well for a supplemental source used for historical context, events Patty wasn't privy to, and to get a different
point of view to be as fair as possible, we used the decidedly anti-Patty Hearst book,
American Heiress, written by infamous public masturbator, Jeffrey Toobin.
If I ever see Jeffrey Toobin, I'll be able to thank him.
Certainly not shake his hand.
No, never.
I'll be like, where's your fly?
Let's see those hands. But you know, what he did brought one of the only
light moments I had during that dark, dark time,
during that COVID time when he did, saved me.
So I want to thank YouTube and for being a public
master fader.
Because if it wasn't for your limp gray penis, nothing.
I don't know if I ever would have smiled in 2020.
I just still thank you for that.
I just love that his last name's tube.
And it's the act of pulling your dick out on a zoom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's my tube.
I'm doing it.
Yeah, it'll never get old.
And I'll never take a word seriously
You have to say ever again Jeffrey to bit you're fucking done, dude, and your documentary series a piece of shit. Yes
For some reason to been absolutely
Despises Patty Hearst. I think it's possible
I think it's because she declined to work with them on his book because she's tried she's tried to put it behind her
She wrote every secret thing and she's like, that's it. I'm done.
I'm moving on.
I'm going to go fucking, I'm going to go be in serial mom and get killed by Kathleen
Turner.
Hi, listen, Patty.
I know I might be Jeffrey Toobin and yeah, I might be cruising for a bruising, but I
prefer to get a bit of the boobin.
Yeah.
This follow up email to her was just send nudes.
Send nudes please.
All right, all right, sorry.
Sorry, I actually totally get it, no worries.
Send nudes please.
Toobin also executive produced and featured himself as a talking head in an absolutely
awful CNN series on the Patty Hearst story which gives an offensive amount of
time to a former member of the SLA who straight-up says that Patty Hearst was
asking for one of her sexual assaults and then he completely ignores the other
assault that occurred soon after. This dude drives the fucking narrative. This is
Bill Harris. This guy, it's fucking despicable.
This CNN series is despicable.
I do want to finish it just to see maybe if he ends it with something, but it just, the
first three episodes are miserable.
It doesn't matter.
And the two men finishes it themselves.
It doesn't matter if he turns it on because there's still three entire episodes where
Bill Harris, the fuck, one of Patty Hearst's kidnappers and torturers drives the narrative.
Yes.
And paints Patty Hearst.
Well, it's also the SLA.
It's remotely entertaining any version of thought from the SLA, which we'll get to
next episode, but you know, it's the, they, I guess they wanted, they decided
they needed to take the SLA seriously to make it scary or so
I don't know what the fuck they thought they I don't know what they I think they just thought we have a member of the SLA
Who's willing to talk and that's gonna get ratings. I think that's the only thing they thought I find that it's just nice to hate CNN again
But with all that in mind, let's dive into the Odyssey of Patricia Campbell Hurst
Now to really understand what the kidnapping of
Patty Hurst meant, we've got to understand the place that the Hurst family occupied in
the American consciousness in the 20th century. Patty's grandfather, William Randolph Hurst,
was THE face of media in America. He was a celebrity in his own right and was so well known
that Orson Welles famously used Hurst as the inspiration
for his movie Citizen Kane.
And everybody knows Citizen Kane because of The Simpsons.
Right?
He's just one of those.
You mean the Bobo episode?
I think it's that episode and then every single, you know, every time you've heard, well, it
was bad.
Like, that's the fucking Citizen Kane thing.
Love Citizen Kane.
Love it.
Surprisingly modern film for the time period that it was made.
It's unbelievable film.
But also, isn't it weird that William Randolph Hearst kind of looks like Herman Munster?
But he's got a big head.
But such was the power of William Randolph Hearst that when he just heard about Citizen
Kane, he threatened to expose the private lives of multiple people in the film industry
in his newspapers if the movie was released.
And he came damn close to buying all prints of Citizen Kane and the Negative in order to destroy the movie before anyone saw it.
Before people call that fascist or bad, just remember, like, that's the closest feeling that William Randolph Hearst has to vulnerability.
Which is that just being like, they can't know I love to sled.
They can't know I have a girlfriend.
Like, he's, cause then you look at the movie,
it's like, technically, like, yeah, he's sad and old
and mean and he was ruthless.
But also, at the same time, if you're William Randolph Hurst,
if I'm watching Citizen Kane, I'd be like,
man, that guy's got it all figured out. How bad was he really?
The ultimate message of citizen Kane is that it's all worth. Success is worthless. Like
the same time, if he doesn't, he doesn't feel that he doesn't know that. So he's watching
the whole time and like, God damn, I'm a good actor. Like he doesn't even know it's him.
Do you think he even watched it?
I imagine he did.
Every one of these people hate it's about him. So he has to watch it.
Well, as a result of Hearst bluster, many theaters refused to show Kane out of fear
that Hearst would sue them for libel and Hearst banned all of his newspapers from even mentioning
the movie in a positive
or negative light.
Hearst had such influence that in an attempt to get the boss to notice him, an employee
at a small local paper owned by Hearst, he attempted to frame Orson Welles as a pedophile
by hiding a 14-year-old girl in his hotel room closet along with two photographers. Wells only avoided the scandal because a policeman
warned him to not go back to the hotel.
Ooh, master stuff.
Honestly, Kelsey, who's here helping us today. I just want to say this is a part of the,
to be honest, the kind of commitment we're looking here at LPN. Which is, you gotta, I actually want a list of other top podcasters and how we are going
to sabotage them so that we can move towards the top.
Of what?
I don't even fucking know.
Getting another Webby?
I don't know.
I actually don't know what this leads to.
I don't know where the end of this is.
We just gotta get a couple of photographers that snap a picture and go, wow wow what a scoop. What a scoop. And then fucking run out the door. But in the end, partly because
people didn't understand the movie, admittedly, but mostly because Hearst decided to kill it,
Citizen Kane bombed and only became known as a classic decades later. Now the Hearsts were
that particular stripe of American royalty in the sense that there was no blue blood in their family.
stripe of American royalty in the sense that there was no blue blood in their family. William Randolph Hearst's father was a 49er from Missouri who
struck it rich in the silver mining business in California. Afterward he
became a senator despite the fact that he could barely read.
Hey man you gotta read to pass laws. Now that just makes you president.
Eddie! Come on Eddie! got a read to pass laws. Now that just makes you president. But once William Randolph Hearst
came of age, he used his father's silver money to force his way into the media. As the line in
Citizen Kane goes, I think it would be fun to run a newspaper. That's what you said. Yeah. Yeah.
That's why you did it. That's what, yeah. That why I got bought stock in the Reykjavik great buy
Forever a week. I walked around going I think it would be fun to run a new
Even though I don't run it in any way whatsoever
Take it down, man
We got to do when we as we go to Reykjavik
We have to make sure that the your newspaper starts dec us as a, like we're this rampant, like this
rage of like teenage chaos is gonna arrive.
Gods are coming to town.
Be careful.
Oh, that's podcast mania.
I shot Reykjavik down.
Just a picture of me just like hide your pigs.
Hide your pigs.
They ain't got no pigs. They got sheep
It's Reykjavik's newspaper honestly if there was a picture of Eddie that said to hide your sheep that means he's coming there to fuck
Now citizen Kane portrays William Randolph Hearst soon found success by selling sensationalism.
And while he did have some principles, loose principles, his first goal was always to sell
as many newspapers as possible.
Case in point was when he began publishing op-eds from some of the most evil people of
the 20th century because it was good for business.
Hearst actually commissioned Benito Mussolini
to write regular columns for his papers.
Well, we're in unprecedented times.
It's unprecedented times.
It delighted him that the most famous Italian in the world
had a byline in his papers
and Italian Americans bought papers as a
result he was the most famous Italian name one Italian more famous than Benito
Mussolini in 1936 famous living Italian maybe Rudolph Valentino? Romeo Spaghetti.
Have you ever met him?
Romeo Spaghetti?
Fucked underage girls through a pile of pasta.
Again, time does not show a lot of favor to Romeo Spaghetti.
Mussolini, however, never actually wrote any of the columns himself.
His mistress ghost-wrote most of them, and even then it was usually difficult to decipher
what Mussolini was even trying to say.
He wasn't a famous orator, was he?
Mussolini.
Was he like, did people like, was he a funny guy?
I have pictures of him being super funny in my head, like standing on a balcony and yelling.
Because he had the big like, like his lip and he just looked like he was pouting.
Yeah, he was a populist.
Mussolini however paled in comparison to the man Hearst gave an American voice to in 1930.
That year, in the Sunday March of Events section, Hearst published an op-ed called Adolf Hitler's
Own Story.
He tells what's the matter with Germany and how he proposes to remedy it.
I like you Adolf, you're a straight shooter, you've got a good haircut, I love the mustache.
Now who's that?
For a time Hitler was Hearst's favorite commentator because Hitler could produce big headlines
in his copy of a shop in decisive.
I love the use of exclamation points.
And it also sold papers to a lot of German immigrants.
The only problem was that Hitler was shit for making deadlines.
But still willing to give the Nazis a shot, Hirst replaced Hitler with Hermann Göring,
the second highest ranking Nazi.
That's the guy. That's the guy that you would bring in, right?
Because he's the guy that wrote for the Nazis.
Yeah. Hearst. Well, no, that Göring, he wasn't the propaganda minister.
That was Goebbels. Yeah.
So what did Göring do? He was second in command.
He ran the Lutwaffe and he was just Hitler's like guy.
Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah. He did a lot of really awful shit.
Yeah, I bet. Yeah.
He was sitting in some hanging in the Nuremberg trial.
I don't think he was the fun one.
But I'm just saying, he had writers.
He should have a bolt kill him.
That was his last name.
Goring.
Goring.
But it's not spelled the same way.
There we go.
Killed himself with a cyanide capsule the day he was supposed to be hanged.
That's kind of funny.
Pussy.
Yep. Hearst even went to Germany to meet with Hitler after some of Hearst's Jewish friends,
particularly film executive Louis B. Mayer,
they expressed some concerns.
Yeah, we feel like there might be, we just gotta feel, we feel like your buddy's out of pocket.
Yeah.
But all Hitler said about his treatment of the Jews, all he said to Hearst was basically,
don't worry, it'll all be over soon enough.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I was saying, you got a cover, dude.
Cause you know how Hitler loved that look, that sheepish like, you don't see the look
over a telegram.
No, Hearst chose to take this statement in a manner that I'd call willfully positive.
And he continued tacitly supporting the Nazi regime because Hitler's columns sold papers.
Hearst would finally be forced to speak out against Hitler after the events of Kristallnacht
in 1938, but even then his criticism was lukewarm at best.
That's all to say, of course, that William Randolph Hearst was not necessarily a beloved
figure in the minds of the American people.
And the Hearst name became associated with both ruling class arrogance and over-the-top opulence as was portrayed in
Citizen Kane. Well his fucking house was a famous
Sansimian would become this like it's this
Otherworldly castle yeah in the middle of the California countryside it is gorgeous
But you also wonder why they thought you were some kind of alien right from the outside because you're literally living like an old-school
European like royal family inside of the United States of America. That's interesting because weren't they building Hitler a castle in California?
That's that's another crew. That was Lindbergh's baby
Actually also until I started reading into Lindbergh baby thing. The baby was the Nazi
Oh, so the baby was the one who convinced the father to be the Nazi?
I'm pretty certain that Lindbergh's baby did the
believe the contract negotiation between Hitler and
William Randolph Hearst for the amount of words deliverable. Yeah and and set the deadlines and did a lot of the template, which I saw
was very strange.
Getting his hands dirty.
Oh yeah.
And his little girl, the goo goo Gaga.
And then he would do something about how like, and then he said, juju no, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was weird.
They loved working with the baby because he looked like a talking bratwurst.
I just make it're a person.
Now when William Randolph Hearst reached the end of his life in 1951, he found that he
had not raised worthy heirs.
Many of his sons were alcoholics, none did well in school, and most were living lives
of leisure as playboys and layabouts.
This of course included Patty Hearst father Randy. Now Randy had also taken up the newspaper
business as a career, but he was boss more in name than in practice because he just pop
into the paper every once in a while to see how everything was going and say, bye bye.
Has there ever been a responsible Randy? No, no, I don't think so. The dude, the, the pitcher,
the big tall pitcher Randy Johnson
Showed up at every game he was supposed to show it up in practice He killed those birds just like he promised his father he would and were you ever disappointed by a Randy Newman song?
No, I love Randy Newman and Randy Bachman. Okay, we're okay
That's it. Randy Bachman saves me. I don't like Randy Newman.
You don't like Randy Newman?
Nah, he's smug.
We can fight about this later.
I think he's smug.
He's got every right to be smug.
But Randy Hurst was a family man.
He married his wife, Catherine, at the age of 19.
He had five kids and he actually raised them himself.
His favorite was the middle child, Patty.
Oh yeah.
Patty was a lot of fun. Yeah,
everyone loved Patty. Now Patty was raised in a mansion in the Old Money area of San Francisco
where they had a live-in maid and a governess. She described her childhood in her book as happy
and affluent but sheltered, which is a bit of an understatement. She had no idea that there was a
world outside. No, this is a woman who grew up with an actual castle as her summer home, the famous San Simeon
property, which was once the home of the world's largest private zoo and is now
an actual tourist attraction owned by the state of California. You can still
see like zebras in the California countryside that escape from the zoo.
When you drive it's these like switchback roads up to it.
And the way it made, it was made to look super, honestly, like it's far off.
It looks farther in the distance than it is.
Because you're driving these kind of like switchback things up and it's like a fairy tale.
You slowly watch this castle like crest over as wild zebras feed on the grass all around it.
And apparently the goal for a long time was that no one know exactly where the castle itself was.
So he would have people like when you went to go visit the Hearst mansion, he would call the Hearst castle.
What he would do is you'd get a letter that's saying you wouldn't know but you get a letter that says from William Randolph
Hurst and mean like you're coming over to the house and so you'd be like, alright
and so a guy would show up and pick you up at the house or you'd meet at
Somewhere down below on the bottom of the property and he'd have somebody else come and take you so that no one would actually
Know how to properly get up to the castle itself. Yeah now
Why do they do they give it to California?
They sell it to
the game together.
They gave the land cause it sat on something over like 275 acres.
Like it was this huge stretch of land that they just vent slowly, but surely sold off
chunks to the state government.
And this castle was all like, he'd throw these massive Hollywood parties there because he
was, yeah, yeah.
Cause he was, he was friends with every nasty boy in Hollywood, like Charlie Chaplin.
Well, he had every fingers. He had fingers in every single pie.
Tongues and many soups.
Tongues and many soups because he was like, he liked getting inside information on people.
That's how he controlled people. And what he would do is he had this big long table
and then you'd sit at the center. He'd be at the center and how you knew how he liked
you is that you'd be close to the center at the table
But then slowly but surely the more you get invited the closer you get to the outside of the table until eventually you're not invited
Anymore and so that's like how you knew how he didn't want to talk to you guys ever see mank
Now when they got older Patty and her sisters all went to Catholic school
But while Patty was rebellious enough to tell a nun to go to hell,
she was not by any stretch an out of control spoiled rich brat.
In fact, she bucked her socialite mother's expectations of being just another rich wife
and even considered changing her name because of the connotations at help.
I wouldn't even say she was that like special of a rebellious kid in that way you were saying.
She's like, she really was just kind of... in LA you meet some of these people. I mean yes she was of
course very rich but she was also just a very normal girl. Yes. And if very normal
young woman. If you went to any affluent city in the United States of America and
went to any one of these fancy neighborhoods where like people went to
sort of like cosplay being like regular
You know, I mean you're having a lot of money and they're gonna go out to like some area
We don't like in Brooklyn if we got rid of all the people forget faking
They weren't for money the place would be empty. Also like someone's gotta pick up the tab
That being said Patty Hearst had grown up so incredibly wealthy that she really had
She didn't have a great idea of what it was like outside of her bubbles
Nor did she really know how to just be a regular person out in the world
Like she didn't know how to set up an like she didn't know I like call up the electric company
You know set up bills
Patty needed a bridge and that came in the form of a teacher named Steven Weed whom Patty started dating when she was 17
And he was 23.
Oh, but he was cool his last name's Weed.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Look how young my girlfriend is, man.
How you doing?
Fucking crazy, man.
It's fucking sometimes when I'm kissing her I imagine if she was a little egg.
I mean like how small can you fucking be, dude?
But Stephen Weed.
Back to class.
It's about me being a full adult.
Stephen Weed, I use cream.
Yeah, yeah.
Stephen Weed was a math professor who ran a music workshop at Crystal Spring School,
which was basically a finishing school to prepare young girls for a life of opulence.
Yeah, I go there a lot of times and they'd call me like, all right, welcome to alabaster
skin class 101.
First of all, here's a bucket of mayonnaise.
Rub it on yourself, you worthless pigs.
None of you are soft enough.
That's what you got to do, man.
You're going to get these debutantes into shape.
Let's see their nipples. Let's go!
We're learning how to make spring rolls!
Alright, now we're doing my taxes!
Steve met Patty as a guitar tutor, and even though the age difference is fucking very
creepy and definitely inappropriate, they started dating and got more serious after
Patty's first year in college.
As could be expected from a guy in his 20s who dates girls still in high school, Steve
soon became difficult, arrogant, and condescending.
They're always like that.
Yep.
It's always like, man, he's so cool.
And then all of a sudden he's like, you start doing stuff where you think it's cool to act
like a wife at home.
And she's starting to do that, sort of like mothering him.
And he's really excited about that.
And then he really reverts to a childlike state even though he's much older than her.
But even so, even though they were having problems, they still decided to get a place
together in Berkeley, California after Steve won a fellowship at UC.
At the Bong Sciences Department.
Now Berkeley at the time was a place that was dealing with the aftermath of the 60s, not
unlike how nearby Haight Ashbury had, in just a few short years, devolved from a hippie
paradise into a place where heroin addiction, pimps, and con men like Charles Manson thrived.
Patti however was thrilled to be living somewhat independently, and even though she had her
doubts about Steve, she liked the idea of being married.
Playing adult. She wanted to, she saw it.
Like, you know, we hear people talk about all the time.
Natalie talks about how when she dated a man that was 20 years older than her and
she felt super mature because he fed the line of how mature and ready you are and
how amazing and special you are.
So when Steven asked for her hand in marriage,
she said yes at the age of 19,
which is the same age her father was when he got married.
The engagement was announced in a Hearst newspaper
on December 19th, 1973, but unbeknownst to anyone,
that announcement would change the course of history,
for it was quickly noticed
by the Symbionese Liberation Army.
Oh man, we needed Jimi Hendrix guitar still.
They don't, these fucking assholes and idiots
don't deserve Hendrix.
Well, cause right now we're from the outside,
the way I'm viewing the series is like,
we're on the outside now.
So to this point, the SLA, like,
they're gonna look pretty scary, pretty intense.
Now we're gonna get into the full story of the SLA in episode two, but the broad
stroke said that the SLA was a small militant black revolutionary group that
basically operated as a cult. As Henry told me earlier, think Charles Manson but
with left-wing politics instead of pure nonsense. Yes and it comes from the same
spot, it comes from someone that was also institutionalized by the United States government. The only hitch about the SLA being
a black revolutionary group, however, this is a big hit. I would say honestly, yeah,
was that out of the 10 members, only one of them, the leader was actually black. Yeah.
The other nine, lily white, and they just became more white. You know what I mean? As the time went, it kind of
reminds me about how, when we did Westside stories in my high school and they decided
that everybody with that, because we had no Hispanic students, that anybody with dark
hair.
No, no, this was in Florida. By the time I was in Florida, I was in West white team because I'm translucent.
But then everybody else, it was all the Italians.
You were a jet, but you were a jumbo.
I was snowboy.
Oh yeah.
That's great.
Good for you.
Well, the white people in the SLA wanted to be black so badly that one guy Bill Harris aka
Teco this is the guy that was in the fucking CNN series
He was known to sometimes pound the floor with his fist yelling quote. Oh god how I wish I were black
Black I wish you were me
Can I close my eyes and open up these white lids and see a black skin underneath?
Please!
I get it. I do this sometimes in casting offices.
I mean, basically it's a cult full of Rachel Dolezal's with guns.
It is wild, man.
It is wild man, cause they, whoo. Now the SLA were never really an organization known for their brilliant plans and schemes,
but they figured that they could kidnap someone important and trade them for the release of
two members of their group that they felt had been wrongly imprisoned.
And we'll get into next week why they thought that would be a viable plan.
Now they had a long list of names,
but they eventually settled on Patty Hearst
after seeing the engagement announcement.
This was not just because of what the Hearst family name
meant in American society that was important,
but it was also because Patty's living situation
in a bad neighborhood in Berkeley
made the kidnapping extraordinarily easy.
And so
on the night of February 4th 1974 Patty Hearst and Stephen Weed settled in for
the evening. Yeah let's fucking count our nugs before we go to sleep, Patty. Cause if not, you know the
Nug Fairy comes and fucking cheaps half your shit, man. So when Nug Ferry comes you gotta say I got
exactly 34 Nugs.
You're not counting bitch.
Alright.
Could somebody tie my shoes?
Oh shit.
Cause every time I go to fucking tie them man all I see is noodles man.
This is freaking me out dude.
I'm stupid.
Steve was planning on a nice
evening a TV he had a double feature he was gonna first he's gonna watch Mission
Impossible and then he was gonna watch a TV show called The Magician
Patti meanwhile was studying at the table wearing her in for the night
outfit a bathrobe and underwear little did she know that these would be her
only clothes in the weeks to come now at 9pm that night, the doorbell rang on Patty and Steve's second floor apartment.
Steve opened the door to find a young, agitated white woman. This was SLA member Angela Atwood,
aka Jelena. She told Steve that she'd backed into a car downstairs and she needed to use
Steve's phone.
Hi, is this Mr. Weed? I saw it here on your doorbell. I've had the most horrible set of
circumstances. I want to stop you right there. Is Professor Weed? I didn't know I was talking to a
professor I should have seen and noticed by your weed like smell in your small glasses.
Immediately forgiven.
Yes.
Well, you have to know, I'm a bit of an emergency situation.
Jelena was a former actor.
They're all, guess what I've learned about all of them?
All theater majors.
Did you notice?
Oh, we're waiting for next week.
The entire crew, the whole three of them that joined up with the first three, they're all theater.
Before Steve even had a chance to answer Jelena, the door flung open and he was soon faced
with two armed men, one black and one white. After them came Jelena, who backed Patty
into the kitchen stove and pointed an automatic pistol in her face.
You better watch yourself little girl, it's thoughts on you into human glue. Is an automatic pistol in her face. You better watch yourself, little girl. It puts our tongue into human glue.
Is an automatic pistol a thing?
Yeah.
I know what you're...
Oh, like Robocop.
Yeah.
Like Robocop.
I don't know. I'm probably gonna get some...
Maybe it's a semi-automatic pistol.
It's a gun. It's a gun.
It's a really dangerous fucking gun.
It's a gun that Jelena shouldn't have had.
No, for sure. For sure.
I'm sorry I got caught up on the wrong date.
No, it's fine. You'd probably save just like have had. No, for sure, for sure. I'm sorry I got caught up on the wrong date.
No, it's fine. You'd probably save just like 20 emails from a bunch of fucking gun nerds.
Well, Jelena then clamped her hand over Patty's mouth and told her to be quiet and nobody will get hurt.
I'm in the movies. It's like I'm in a little revolutionary.
Meanwhile, Steve and Weed had been pushed to the floor and was being kicked repeatedly by the white guy.
No, man, my fucking show just started.
Oh, man.
And this would be the last good thing they would ever do.
Man, listen, dude, the fucking magician was about to pull all the fucking thregs out of his sleeve.
The guy kicking him was the aforementioned Teco. Steve actually thought at first that Teco was black because Teco talked in an affected
black voice as did many members of the SLA.
Henry, what does it sound like?
I actually was going to wait for next episode because there's a couple.
It is really funny because
they talk about it with each one. It's like, that's what's fucking hard. Is that like,
I don't even want to get, I have a breakdown for this.
But once both Steve and Patty were down on the ground, the actual black guy started asking
him where's the safe over and over again, because he was under the impression that every rich person in the world had a
safe in their home. There's a safe in every single fucking hotel room. There's a safe lots of places.
The man yelling about the safe was career criminal Donald DeFries aka
Sincu Mtuobay, aka Sin.
Sin was the leader of the SLA and the only black guy in this black revolutionary militant
group.
You listen to me, you ever-loving fellas.
Alright?
There doesn't need to be one more black fella in this group, right?
Because you got the number one guy.
Sin Q. I know you worry about it.
Alright?
I'm the blackest man you've ever met. That's how you stay in charge
We're gonna get into that in the next episode it's you're exactly right. It's so fucking stupid
This is the problem man. I don't want to get into it right now. We have to remember Marcus the SLA scary right now
Remember, Marcus, the SLA is scary right now. It's scary right now.
They can never at any point be scary to me.
I know, but we have to pretend like they're scary right now because we're going to find
out that they're stupid soon.
Well, the thing is that they are scary.
They are very, very scary to Patty Hearst.
Of course.
And will remain terrifying to Patty Hearst throughout.
Till the end, yes.
Now, Patty and Steve didn't have a safe, but Sin's insistence that there was a safe made
it seem like this was probably a robbery and would be over soon enough.
But then, Patty's hands were tied behind her back, a knotted rag was stuffed in her
mouth and a blindfold was wrapped around her eyes and tied behind her head.
But Steve, even after being hit over the head with a bottle of wine and kicked and hit in
the face repeatedly,
We're supposed to drink that!
Is that my pong? That's what I'm fucking told hurt my pong! the head with a bottle of wine and kicked and hit in the face repeatedly.
He managed to get his hands free before rushing out to the patio to get help.
That's when he noticed no one was running after him.
That's because the SLA were too busy dragging Patty the other way out the front door.
She'd spit out the gag and was screaming for help because she was now fully aware
of what was actually going down.
Her neighbors came outside to see what was going on.
So one of the kidnappers let out a burst of gunfire from their automatic weapon
in response.
Not subtle.
No.
By this time, Steven Weed had made it to a neighbor's apartment and was pounding
on the door begging for help.
Any nugs to help me get inspired to go to the police, please?
Emergency nugs needed.
I need to fucking chill to the max, man.
This is so much pressure.
I can't handle this, dude.
My fucking rich ass girlfriend's got a fucking kidnapping problem, man.
But Patty had already been tossed in the trunk of the car.
The lid was closed and just before the car sped off with Patty inside, one of the kidnappers
let loose with one last burst of gunfire for good measure.
Now they'll know we have bullets.
She also said that she was having dreams about getting kidnapped.
I find that real.
I feel like it was just in the air because there was the, because there was a case.
Was that around this time?
Yeah.
The Getty kidnapping was the year before.
Oh, so it's blatantly inspired.
Well we're going to get into the Getty kidnapping next week.
There's a lot of inspirations, but she was having prophetic dreams, but I think, but
she was saying that she had this feeling that something was going to happen.
But I realized now, you know what it was. And she said so much kind of after the fact was that cause she was saying that she had this feeling that something was gonna happen, but I realized now, you know what it was,
and she said so much kind of after the fact,
was that because she was actively being tailed,
and they were watching where she was going,
and sometimes, and this is great for my friends
with OCD out there, is that sometimes
when you're super paranoid thinking
that somebody's following you, they are.
Yeah.
It's actually completely a total real scenario.
And they are coming to kill you.
That's why I walk in zigzags.
Always! I taught you that, serpentine!
Walk like a cat! Jump like a dog!
After a short drive, Patty was transferred to the backseat of another car.
And she sat in abject terror listening to her kidnappers
congratulate each other on how smoothly their operation had gone.
You were so scary. You were so good.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I did you good, right? Yeah, baby.
You cut all your lines right?
Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, I rehearsed. Yeah.
They also had all the windows rolled down ready to quote, shoot it out with the pigs
if they needed to.
Because all of these people are all ready to die at any second.
They're begging for it.
Oh, this is a, this is the story of a group of people heading towards total annihilation.
Yep.
But after anywhere between an hour and three hours, Patty was really fuzzy on the time.
She found herself being led up a flight of stairs and down a series of hallways.
At first, Patty was terrified that she'd meet the same fate as kidnapping victim Barbara
Jane Mackey.
Mackey was a 20-year-old college student who'd been kidnapped in 1968 and was buried alive
in a coffin on an isolated hillside in Georgia for 83 hours
Before her father paid a ransom of half a million dollars. No, thank you
No, but while Patty didn't go in a coffin her reality wasn't far off
She was soon thrown into a walk-in closet six feet long and two feet wide
Modified so it could only be opened from the outside.
It was filthy and stank from the old carpet and padding that had been used to soundproof
the space, giving it the feel of a cell at an insane asylum.
Soon after she was thrown inside, the door flew open and a member of the SLA placed a
small radio inside with the volume turned all the way up so Patty couldn't hear what her kidnappers were saying and
So she would be disoriented even further at the very beginning
So we what we said this like they're very frightening you have these people who mean a lot of business soup that she's now watched
Her husband get the shit beat out of him fiance fiance
Fiance's piece of shit. It's of shit dumb name it's a stupid role
mrs. weed mrs. weed man that's a peanuts character no lessons man. But she's traumatized. And then the way it begins is extremely like, they seem like they're very capable.
And they are, like they have a full on like, there's an agenda here.
Yeah. A few hours later, the leader of the SLA opened the door and told Patty that his name was Senkyu Ntume and he was the fifth prophet
and the general field marshal of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
As soon as Patty heard the name Symbionese Liberation Army, she knew she was in trouble.
While she did admit to being blind to most inequalities in American society at this time,
she still read the news and she remembered the headlines
the SLA had already made.
The reason why two of their members were in jail was because just four months earlier,
the SLA had executed the superintendent of the Oakland Unified School District in the
school's parking lot, a guy named Marcus Foster.
And that was not a good move.
It was a bad move.
It was a bad move because as we come from the other direction next week,
you'll see why they made this move.
But they really shit the bed.
Yeah.
Because the thing is, if you're going to be a revolutionary group,
a bit of advice.
Those first couple roundabouts, those first couple engagements.
Like your first headline?
Yeah, dude.
Super crucial to how everybody's going to view you for the rest of the time. And you really got to start off on the right foot. Yeah. roundabouts with first couple engagements. Like your first headline? Yeah dude, super crucial
to how everybody's going to view you for the rest of the time and you really got to start off in
the right foot. Yeah well the murder had received widespread condemnation and bafflement from other
black revolutionary groups because Marcus Foster was not only black but a symbol of success in the
community because he was the first black superintendent of a large American city school district. The SLA had murdered him because they didn't agree with some policies.
He was merely entertaining, not even implementing. And a lot of it was conspiracy theory. Yes.
Like what he was reading. And paranoia. And paranoia. Like he was basically was about
creating an ID system for children in the elementary school system. And then he extrapolated it.
Sink use extrapolated to this concept that they were going to be bringing
police officers into monitor the everyday activity of children.
Cause he kind of had all, he thought it was this slippery slope of, Oh,
they're going to start tracking the kids kind of like in a, uh,
Mark of the beast style slash police state.
The kids are going to come and the cops are going to be teaching the kids classes and
stuff. And he doesn't know the cops are lazy. They're not going to do that.
They're not going to teach classes.
If I was a cop and then I was forced to watch it, like be in charge of an elementary
school, like it's like class, we're going to watch dumb and dumb.
It looks like officers are browsed.
He's going to put on one of his favorite documentaries
Yeah, watch the Charles Larry Christmas. You know mad they must have been when he wasn't killed by the KKK
Soon after two members at the SLA were arrested for the crime, Russell Little aka Ossie and Joseph
Romero aka Bo. But even though Patty knew exactly who she was dealing with, she thought
it would be best if she feigned ignorance. Perfect. Yes. This of course bruised Sen's
ego and he proudly and angrily gave Patty the SLA's entire resume including the murder
of Marcus Foster.
They're still very proud of this.
He still thinks that he's done a wonderful thing for killing this superintendent.
Because where we're at right now in the SLA's life, we're into the Charles Manson section
of we are going to have to ramp up the rhetoric in order for me to keep the cult.
Sin then told Patty that she was a prisoner of war because she was the daughter of Randolph
A. Hearst, a corporate enemy of the people.
But since she was a prisoner of war, she was going to be treated according to Geneva Convention
guidelines.
And she wasn't.
Sin asked her if she had any religious medals on her person, explaining that under the Geneva
Convention, she could hold on to any religious medals bad to forego every other item to the SLA.
Yes, I worship this gun.
Thank you, St. Barnabas' gun, for the protection that you give me each night, and thank you,
the bullets of the Virgin Mary.
Oh, holy night.
Blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. Bullets of the Virgin Mary
But since Patty was wearing only her bathrobe and underwear She thought for the first many times that the person talking to her might be insane
Now this is about half true because it's hard to tell how much sin actually believed in what he was about to tell Patty
Although it's most likely he was just to tell Patty, although it's most
likely he was just trying to make himself sound more impressive than he actually was.
See, during the kidnapping, Patty had been hit in the face with the butt of a rifle and
had been cut, scraped and bruised by the rough treatment she'd received between her apartment
and the SLA's closet.
For those wounds, Sin promised that an SLA doctor would soon arrive,
but their medical team was, at that moment, very busy.
We got a lot going on, a lot of different stuff there, madam. All right, so you got
to know, it's like we got arm fronts. We're fighting in Alaska right now. Did you know
that the snowmen were conservative? And then we got a lot of stuff going on a lot of places Toledo
Milwaukee a lot of places we got Seattle some people need to be at Band-Aids in Seattle
Out super last minute for some crucial
Crucial Band-Aids
Cruuuuutial band-aids! Well, I gotta go.
Well, Sin claimed that other SLA combat teams had captured five other prisoners that night
across the state of California.
The SLA, he said, was a huge army that had intelligence and medical units in addition
to their ground troops, and that it was all financially backed by supporters of the revolution.
And you can bet your buttons on that little mess.
All right?
Because no hardcore fellas such as myself, who just got out
of the pen, aren't going to mess around with no half measures,
you little woman.
All right?
So you better cross your T's and dot them I's when it comes down
to it, because if not, Miss Buster Brown,
I'm going to come over there and I'm going to, and I going to, Oh, you better watch it. I gotta go. I gotta go make sure
as I'm sending the SLA doctors to Baton Rouge. Yeah. Jazz Fest get out of control. Yeah.
I gotta get out of here.
He then added that the SLA was linked internationally to the countries of Ireland, the Philippines
and Puerto Rico. The whole country. Yeah.
Which are all known for how many black people they have. Blacks, Ireland, you wouldn't even believe
the type of crazy loco fellas we got in Ireland. What these guys are doing. They are keeping it
real, my friend. And even though Puerto Rico is not as we all know a country no
no finally since why finally Sen told her that if she behaved herself she
wouldn't be mistreated but if she dared make a sound or even touch the closet
door she'd be strung up from the ceiling like a dead pig she was then left there
in the dark blindfolded with her hands tied.
Don't you mess with me, alright? Because I'm a cranky MF'er. Alright? Have a good night.
Love you.
Now the next day, Sin was furious that the papers hadn't printed anything about the kidnapping of
Patty Hearst. In his view, this was not a kidnapping at all, but an arrest.
So he decided to send a so-called arrest warrant to the media.
Issued by the Court of the People, the statement said that any attempt to rescue Patty would result in her execution,
and this and any further communications had to be published in full in all newspapers,
and any failure to do so
would endanger the safety of the prisoner.
The statement ended with the now infamous sign off death to the fascist insect that
preys upon the life of the people.
Yeah.
So you got to say it in a mill to you're allowed to with the glasses.
Sure.
Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. Yeah. That felt that a lot better. All right. Now there you mind your
bees and cues, right? Because we're calling for the death to the fascist insect. It preys upon
the life of the people and, and that's got to stop. And our first person to do it as Sergeant Orkin.
to stop and our first person to do it is Sergeant Orkin. I will not let that stand.
Almost immediately, Sin began drilling the thought into Patty's head that if the FBI
were to show up at the SLA safe house, the SLA would kill her first, then shoot their
way out or die trying, because all of them would rather die than go to prison.
But when he wasn't telling her all the ways she could be killed, Sin lectured Patty in
a phony, formal tone of voice, as if he were a judge or a general. His words, of course,
barely made any sense. Or at least, they didn't make sense to someone from Patty's background.
Or to a lot of people. Yes.
Because I could already tell what he's doing, which is he's saying a lot of people. Yes. Because I can already tell what he's doing, which is saying a lot
of very intense left wing words. None of them mean any of the way that they say it. The
word always means something else from the way they use it. And it's confusing. And then
it feels in many ways as if the information is being held from me. And I do wish, cause
I'm not a dumb man.
Well, what you just said is systemic.
I'm not a dumb man.
I try to read and I feel like I'm gullible enough to be gotten.
Yeah, you know, because I go in there 110 percent.
You always do. And I leave me behind.
I go into the work.
Now, I still don't really
understand what dialectical materialism is but I know that it's a thing but I know he
said a lot of words that he did at first to sort of I do believe it's a tactic I believe
that is a tactic to be like look how official we are we have all of these crazy terms and
all of this terminology and these meanings why and the validations. But Sen wasn't the only featured speaker. Every member of the SLA
took every opportunity to lecture Patty, sometimes opening the door to ask her if
she wanted to go to the bathroom, then immediately launching into a diatribe
about Marxism before she even had a chance to answer. And this happens
everywhere you are trying to go to the bathroom with communists.
But no, but it is interesting. I find it interesting, but it's like, let me shit.
Yeah.
Finally though, Sen told Patty the reason why she'd been kidnapped, or at least the loose reason why.
Loose principle.
Two of their comrades have been held in a pig's prison, Sen said, and the SLA was going to trade her for them. But in the meantime, the SLA was going to treat Patty exactly how their comrades were
being treated in San Quentin.
Yeah, and we're not going to be playing no hopscotch, and we ain't going to be playing
no jump rope, little miss.
All right, so you better get your head on straight and you better be thinking about
communism by the time I get back, all right?
And tomorrow we got Johnny Cash books.
He's so mad about it, he doesn't want to play. He doesn't want to play, he hates it. Communism at the time I get back. All right tomorrow. We got Johnny Cash book
He's so mad about it. He doesn't want to play
All right. Good night. I love you
Over the next few days Patty settled into what she hoped would be a short if torturous ordeal
She learned how to eat blindfolded and sat through because that's important. Remember she was blindfolded. That's the one thing I don't know if we've said. Yeah.
Is that she was permanently blindfolded.
Yes.
And she kept it on and they also like, this is part of also the reasons why she was like,
they might be fucking stupid.
Because he kept saying stuff like, she had to keep it on in the closet no matter what.
Yeah.
And so she was taking it off every once in a while.
They would let her take it off to bathe where they would wear a mask sometimes and she'd
be able to take it off.
But then she was noticing it was like blinding her because essentially she was at days at
a time with no light.
Also it's just like it has to like give you like weird like sores.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She learned how to eat blindfolded and she sat through so-called interrogations conducted
by Sen who wanted to know as many details
about her father and his financials as Patty could tell him.
How many slides does he have?
All right, how many llamas?
How many carousels?
I want to know.
That sounds amazing.
Working llamas or pets?
That's incredible.
I wish I had access to that many llamas.
You know what I'd do with that many llamas?
I'd run a llama communist university.
All right?
You should be so lucky. That's incredible. I wish I had access to that many llamas. You know what I'd do with that many llamas?
I'd run a llama communist universe.
Alright, you should be so lucky.
The answer is 4, 15, and 3.
That's all I needed to know.
See, Sen was under the impression that Randy Hurst was a member of the Committee of 40,
which Sen believed was a super secret, high level group of businessmen and corporate executives
who were also CIA agents.
And it was this committee who told the president what to do at all times.
Just know that as soon as you hear the term committee of 40, you don't have to listen
to a single thing that he says ever again.
That's like one of those things.
You're like, oh, you're wrong.
Yeah.
Little did Sin know that Randy Hurst barely even showed up to the job he had most of the
time.
Yeah, dude.
That's what rich people do.
And after days of interrogation, Patty just told Sin that her father made, I don't fucking
know, a million dollars a year.
Yeah.
And since that was a nice round number, Sin's like, cool, million dollars a year.
Sounds right.
Must be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Million dollars, huh? Yeah. I bet that's jump change for you daddy
Hmm. Mm-hmm. Well about mmm. Well, I make five million
Like is that what I was supposed to say is that how I was supposed to react
Didn't take long for Patty to learn each SLA member by voice
Because again as we said she was almost
never allowed to take off her blindfold in those early weeks. While Sin was
always recognizable as the meanest male voice, Patty also heard a sharp cold
female voice that sounded as she said it like a school marm. And they all had fake
voices. I'm not doing the real sin voice.
The real sin voice is that he was a
he was an African American, but he also
pretended to have sort of like
an Indian Island accent as well.
He faked that.
Because he was from Cleveland.
What does an Indian Island sound like?
It um...
hmmm...
Well the school marm voice was often paired with the jumpy nervous male voice who repeatedly
tried unsuccessfully to sound like a black guy.
Yeah, you fools.
Yeah, you better check yourself before you wreck yourself, right?
I like sneakers.
No, I certainly like sneakers. The nervous fella was the aforementioned Teco,
while the school marm was his wife, Emily, aka Yolanda.
Patty then learned the names of the rest of the SLA members, or at least their aliases.
Those aliases, no shit, they were the white SLA members' reborn Swahili African names adopted for the revolution.
Oh God, I wish I was black. Oh God, I wish I could be black. Oh please.
Shut up. If you fucking, if I give you a black name, will you shut the fuck up?
Yeah, I guess it's okay. What kind of black name?
It's fucking Swahili. I don't know.
Cool.
Do you know anyone else named Swahili, I don't know. Cool! Do you know anyone else named Swahili?
Wow!
What part of black is that?
Apart from Yolanda's hard tone and Teco's nervous faux black accent, there was also
the friendly, sing-songy theatrical voice of the aforementioned Jelena, who had often
giggled and had studied
to become an actor before joining the SLA.
If you have a hard time memorizing these communist terms, you'd have an even harder time doing
Sondheim a cappello.
Because of her theatre background, she'd make over-the-top ridiculous disguises for
the SLA to wear anytime they left the safe house using her professional makeup kit.
Look, now I'm an old woman with a little bit of gray hair.
Now I'm an old man with long droopy balls.
I attach it attached to my labia.
Now I'm a doll.
A rough, rough bark bark.
One can be anything.
Suck out the balls though.
Yeah, no.
One can be anything if you're in the theater.
She'd previously been in a relationship with one of the SLA's arrested comrades, but now
Jelena spent most of her nights sleeping with sin.
Patty also got to know the voice of Patricia Soltisic, who had legally changed her name
to Ms. Moon, that's M-I-Z-M-O-O-N, white people, before adopting the so-called
Swahili name of Zoya. Zoya was an ardent bisexual second-wave feminist who preached
that women could be just as strong, macho, and violent as men were. She was the real
frightening one. Yeah. As the lectures continued day and night, Patty also met Faheesa, the SLA's second-in-command,
the one who worshipped sin like a god.
But unlike Tekko, Faheesa actually sounded black, so Patty was surprised to later find
out that Faheesa was actually a white woman from Orange County named Nancy.
She was surprised that they were all white.
It's just the truth.
She was just like, wow.
She was really surprised when she got a good look at everybody.
Patty also came to know Willie Wolf, aka Kajo, who
not Kuja, not Kuja, who mostly talked about Vacaville prison.
That was where both Ed Kemper and Charles Manson would eventually be held.
Since Vacaville is where the state sends prisoners with psychiatric issues, Patty assumed Kajo
was himself mentally disturbed.
No.
You would be surprised how mentally well I could be.
In reality, Kajo was just a big fat idiot who often ate so much he gave himself a tummy
ache.
Oh no.
So far, he's the only appealing character.
Somebody stopped me because it's going to get to the point where I'm going to be too
big for the revolution. I mean, I literally did this yesterday. I'm too big for it. You
know how many tunnels we got to go through What the little bamboo sticks we gotta whittle?
They'd actually have meetings where they're like,
Kajo is eating too much.
I don't know how to stop. I'm nervous.
It's hard out here. It's a lot. We're in a war.
But Patty later described him as an overgrown, awkward high school senior.
With short hair dyed a hideous red
that didn't match his facial features at all.
But since Kajo was big, he actually towered over Sin.
And even though Kajo was soft-spoken
and unimpressive in every way,
Sin would still arch his back
and try to appear taller when standing next to him.
And then-
Always go shorter.
Always go shorter, yeah.
Because it shows you're more powerful.
Yeah.
And then there was poor Camilla,
the saddest member of the group
that no one particularly liked.
No.
Is she the maid?
No.
They might have liked her if she did shit.
What was her name?
Gabby?
Yeah, she went by Gabby.
She was heavyset, physically weak,
and totally uncoordinated. She was also Zoya's
ex-girlfriend, and had a fantasy of one day organizing an army of homosexuals to violently
rise up against the establishment.
Patty soon figured out that the reason why all seven SLA members constantly lectured
her was because no one else was listening to them. And in Patty's words, she was literally
a captive audience.
They got to the point where they were so excited just to talk to her
because she was somebody new that they started opening up the closet
just to be like, you need some air?
Just so you know. So Mark's actually blah, blah, blah.
And they would start talking more and more into their leftist
like theology shit.
But they'd open it just to crack.
Like they wouldn't open it up all the way.
You know there were times.
It wasn't theory.
You know there were times where she just
pretended to be asleep.
Of course.
But she actually did an extremely good job,
which is, remember this, and this is a good lesson
for our audience to hear.
If you're dealing with an aggressive idiot,
always say yes.
Nod and move close to push away.
Well, but in listening to them talk, Patty soon figured out that the only way out was through.
She decided to humor them, listening to everything they said and doing whatever they asked,
and she hoped that somehow, sometime, she would be rescued before they
decided to kill her.
The exchange of Patty for their comrades in San Quentin soon became a secondary goal for
the SLA.
They decided that as a show of good faith, they would have Randy Hurst feed the poor,
just generally feed the poor.
And if Sin found Hurst's actions satisfactory, the SLA would make an actual ransom demand.
Yeah, he wanted to see if he was good for it.
But unfortunately he had a tacit misunderstanding of how money works in the country.
Yep.
Now once they discussed what this gesture of good faith would be ad nauseam as the SLA
did with every single subject, they decided that the Hearst Corporation should give $70
worth of food to every poor
person in the state of California.
To solve the idea, Sin had Patty make her first of many recorded messages, urging her
family to fully cooperate with the SLA.
Joining Patty in the closet with a tape recorder, extensive notes, and a flashlight was Sin,
who untied Patty's hands and handed her the microphone
Sin then told Patty what to say then had her repeat it back to him in her own words while he recorded her voice
Then after each point he'd switch off the tape recorder so he could prepare her for the next point
He also would make her repeat things
He would say do it again take, take it back. Like,
so she was heavily directed within her recording. What you're about to hear is some of the first
words the world heard from Patty Hearst post kidnapping in which you could clearly hear the
stops and starts. I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons and there's also a medical team here.
Generous. be released until they let me go. So it wouldn't do any good for somebody to come in here and
try to get me out by force. These people aren't just a bunch of nuts. They've been really
honest with me, but they're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing. And I want
They're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing and
I
Want to get out of here, but I'm the only way I'm going to is if we do it their way
and I
Just hope that you'll do what they say, dad, and just do it quickly.
I've been stopping and starting this tape myself so that I can collect my thoughts. That's why there's so many stops in it.
I'm not being forced to say any of this.
Defensive.
Defensive.
Well, because he was also relistening as he was going, he was like,
ah, that doesn't sound right. We have to do it like this. Oh, no, no, no. They're going
to think that you're the one, that we're forcing you to do this. We have to make it so, it
sounds so, so involuntary. And so, so, so voluntary. And he, they kind of begin this
back and forth relationship. I actually feel like in that way, that's what she's, he's
starting to do where he needs
her to participate fully because at this point in time, this is way in the, this is the way
in the beginning.
They cannot afford to shoot her yet.
No, how involved are the cops at this point?
I mean, the FBI, we're going to get into that.
That's how we're going to start episode two, but the FBI gets involved like immediately.
Like this is a massive operation.
Now, Patty collapsed and started sobbing immediately after recording that message, which ended FBI gets involved immediately. This is a massive operation.
Now Patty collapsed and started sobbing immediately after recording that message, which ended
up being 12 minutes long altogether. We just listened to a minute of it. That's when Sin
crawled over and pinched her nipple and pinched her between her legs, heavily implying that
if she didn't continue to cooperate, sexual violence would soon follow.
The tape was sent out along with the demand to feed the poor of California, but the authorities
soon deduced that the SLA's ultimate goal was the exchange of their two comrades in
San Quentin.
Yeah, they came out and just said it in the newspaper.
Like, they're obviously going to use Patty Hearst as a way to negotiate for the release
of these two other people.
And Sin is immediately immediately like what the fuck
and once deduced then governor of california ronald reagan responded with his now famous quote
well you tell them they can forget it oh i thought his quote was where are my pants funny stuff
it's an old all right just for those of you that don't know that aren't 40 plus.
Ronald Reagan was a controversial president back in the day. People seemed to enjoy him at Alzheimer's for the entire time of his
president. Well, the last two years. That's enough. But he wouldn't read any of his reports. He had to make videos of it and
show to him on television every day. He was an actor.
Randy Hurst, meanwhile, immediately announced on TV that since plan would cost no less than 400 million dollars, which in today's currency is 2.5 billion.
Well, he was like, because they just made this number up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Seventy dollars actually comes from the sin cues, actual inspiration was a very, very interesting
person. That is a, uh, he was an activist and a revolutionary
named George Jackson, who was a prisoner that wrote about a
finding like a Marxist and left wing ideology in the prison
community. And he was arrested for stealing quote unquote
seventy dollars worth of food, and then he was held in jail indefinitely. George Jackson
is a very compelling, interesting, like an actual activist slash revolutionary, and he
sort of kind of stole from that. But SinQ never did the math.
No.
You mean like, so there's a hundred million people like how many people all the poor people in California?
Yeah, so like Randy Hurst literally was like did the math on television. He's like that's uh, that's like a billion dollars
Yeah, cuz California by itself would be like the fifth biggest country in the world. Yeah, could do it. They just
I don't think they know they couldn't have I mean
Too much money didn't have that much mean, that's too much money. They didn't
have that much money.
Pulled all of them pulled their fucking money to give all. That's exactly what sink you
said he's like they could call like their friends like the Shah of Iran. They didn't
do it though. In the end they didn't do it. Not how it works. You can shit in one hand
you can call the shower or the other and see which kid fills first or Randy couldn't pay that because the fact was Randy actually had access to a relatively
small amount of cash. See the Hearst family's money was not liquid. They didn't have a Scrooge
McDuck safe for Randy Swann and gold coins. They should have though. Cause that's cool.
But if you jumped in a pile of gold coins, you would kill yourself. Yeah, you just would. You would die immediately. Yeah, he'd have brain damage.
Yeah, Scrooge McDuck would literally be Harrison Ford from Regarding Henry.
In fact, Randy actually had very little control over even the Hearst Corporation because when
William Randolph Hearst died, he gave Randy and his brothers only five seats on the board
out of 13 so they
couldn't ruin daddy's company.
It's almost like there was only one smart one.
It's almost like one super evil guy who realized like, oh you guys are going to fuck it all
up.
I got to bring an evil from outside.
Sin of course had no idea how true wealth worked.
Where most of the money is tied up in stocks, real estate, and various other hidey holes,
this is also the super rich can avoid paying taxes like the rest of the country."
Also saw a fun little video that does remind me.
It's like once money became not real, like once it became a place, it made much harder
for like back in the day, you know, when they wanted to take the czar Russia's money, they
just wouldn't took it.
Yeah.
They took all its jewels.
Yeah. They took the stuff. Yeah. Where like there's no stuff. No. For this money. No. Like this is a fantasy world.
America baby. Yeah. Like it's literally fake it's just numbers on a piece of paper. It's a million
dollar loan that a rich person takes out that they don't have to pay taxes on. It's awesome.
Well eventually Randy negotiated a food distribution program that would cost $2 million, estimating
that the program could feed 100,000 people a month for a whole year.
In addition, Randy hired an attorney to represent the two SLA members who were in San Quentin
for the murder of Superintendent Marcus Foster.
But none of this was satisfactory for Sen.
Seems like a lot of good work.
He did quite a bit of stuff. for Sin. It's possibly one of the largest, I think it is the largest food
distribution program that has ever occurred in America and that's including
the Great Depression, like all the New Deal shit. And none of this was
satisfactory for Sin. And Patty could sense that Sin really had no idea what
he was doing. The SLA had begun with the idea of exchanging Patty for their
comrades, but now all of a sudden they're coordinating food distribution programs that cost millions of
dollars.
And he had no idea what even the concept of millions of dollars was and how to move that
around and what to do with it. And so it's this the dog caught the car.
Yes. Like most cult leaders, Sin was making it up as he went along. It also didn't help
that the SLA was being criticized by radical organizations, black and white, for linking left-wing politics to the
kidnapping of a teenager, not to mention the murder of Marcus Foster, which everyone's still
very pissed off about. As the days turned into weeks, Patty began to realize that the SLA were
truly pathetic. Starting to switch. From her closet, she could hear their daily training,
which was calisthenics in the morning
and so-called military maneuvers in the afternoon.
This is in an apartment.
Remember that this is like, literally,
there are other apartments in here.
And the SLA is one of them.
They're doing up-downs and shit.
Yes.
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take that pig, you see the thing is then I would be like,
but then someone has to role play as the pigs, right?
And go like, yeah, I'm the cop.
So they're all like, ah, gotcha pig,
and then Julien is like, what if I play Queen Elizabeth?
And they're all like, wait a second Julien,
all right, this isn't acting 101 anymore.
But we need to kill that pig too!
Yeah, let's get her!
In other words, Patty Hearst began to realize they were delusional.
These delusions, of course, were only fed by the media,
because while the story had not yet reached its height,
this still wasn't the biggest story yet, it was still massive news.
Yes.
Sniffing their own farts as much as they could,
SLA members would spend their days listening to the radio or watching TV,
flipping through the channels continuously until they found someone talking about them or the kidnapping.
But then they talk a bunch of shit.
Yeah.
Right, yeah, they're like, yeah, we're actually getting that wrong!
And they don't know what they're talking about, man!
Meanwhile, like, it's just, it's just all just, they're doing it for attention.
Yeah.
But after getting to know the SLA,
Patty realized that they were only
going to keep moving the goalposts.
And any fantasy she might have had about being rescued,
set free, or even killed were a waste of energy.
And so Patty decided she would not
think about the future at all.
Instead, she would concentrate on staying alive one day
at a time.
And we can all learn from that.
That's right.
Now, even though Patty's mind was strong,
her physical state was starting to deteriorate
because she'd been kept blindfolded for weeks on end
in a six foot by two foot closet without exercise.
The SLA, of course, would never admit
that this was indeed torture,
and it's fucking sickening that the CNN series
never even approaches this subject while talking extensively to
Teco who pretty much drives the narrative of that entire series. It is seriously so fucking bad.
It is it's kind of like wildly irresponsible now after reading all of the other stuff that I've read because I just actually was so
confused by their tone. Yeah, it's a it's literally like they're mad at Patty Hearst.
Yes.
But once Patty's health began to seriously deteriorate, the SLA at first just made fun
of her for being a bourgeois weakling, or bougie in today's parlance.
But pretty soon they realized that if Patty didn't get some exercise, she might die.
So several times a day they began guiding her around the room outside the closet. When she got a little stronger they had her do jumping jacks and knee
bends all while blindfolded. But after just a few days they either lost interest
or just plain forgot to do it and Patty remained in the closet. Now Patty knew
she had to get out of there somehow. She just had to not even get away from the
clutches of the SLA she just had to get out of the closet. She just had to not even get away from the clutches of the SLA. She just had to get out of the closet. She was going to die. You know what it is too, it wears on you. This is what
they talk about. This is why torture is illegal. At this point, she'll do anything to get out of the
first level of her situation. There's no no, there's no even thought about escape
because it's just how do I, how in the living fuck
do I just get out of this closet?
Because the more, because eventually,
I think in the back of your head you know
this is not a permanent situation.
And the longer I'm in this small room,
the longer it's more difficult for me to leave this room.
The more I become a liability to the people outside of this room.
The more and more they got to shuffle me around and I know one's responding or the things
are not working out.
They'd be like the more and more my position becomes more fragile in this place.
And once you thought of like as just something in the closet, you're not thought of as a
human anymore.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And they already started off not thinking of her as human.
And so, but the thing was, is that the SLA was just as paranoid as you'd expect. So getting
out of the closet was going to be difficult. They spoke in whispers because Sin was convinced
the FBI had super listening devices. And when the SLA had meetings, they always turned the
TV around because they believed the FBI could spy into their house through the TV screen.
I know Milton Burroughs looking!
I know he is!
I mean, nowadays both of these things are very possible.
Oh yeah, they're hearing!
The government can listen to you through your TV controller.
Very, very easy. They can see you from space.
Just ask Jeffreyer Tubman.
Wow.
But he did it himself!
He did it to his own self!
But back then, of course, this was moronic, when TVs were made of gigantic tubes and glass and wood.
But to further demonstrate the paranoia, the SLA started getting worried a few weeks in that their neighbors were going catch on that they were a Dangerous group of revolutionaries. We got to do something. We got it. I mean we got to make do like a bake sale
We're gonna do like a garage sale or something. We got to put on play
That's the best I would sink you with us all together. I think we have just the perfect amount to do
Neverly we roll along
Also, I was thinking maybe we should do our somersaults a little quieter.
A little quieter because honestly, they are keeping me awake now.
And Henry, you made jest, but they put on a play.
Yes, they did.
They held a make-believe party with loud.
Act like we're having fun because they didn't believe in drinking. No, they didn't. No smoking,
no drugs. Well, nobody believed in drinking except. Thank you. So funny. It works out
for him. And how he never had to do the calisthenics or he was born good. But yeah, they had to
like, they're like, all right, now wave your arms more. Yeah. Like you're really dancing. All right. Now you dance with him. Cool. Now make, make it funky now. Oh, oh, make it funky now. Oh,
oh, take it back. Huh. Huh. I mean, literally that table is fragile. Let's go. All right.
Drink the brown tea. Fatty, you're eating too much.
fragile. Let's go. All right, drink the brown tea. Fatty, you're eating too much.
They even had ice clinking around and drinking glasses. They put ice like a clink, clink, clink. Clink like you're yelling. Clink like you're laughing. See, the cover story was that the SLA,
the house they were renting, the apartment they were renting, the cover story that they were
telling people is that this is being rented by two stewardesses. So the SLA had to make sure to spill the party into the backyard where Kajo,
playing a pilot, you know, how it is flying in the sky with the clouds and all clouds are a lot more
solid than you'd think they'd be. He discussed all of his various travel exploits in a loud voice while everyone else
responded with their own tales of world travel.
Oh, hair.
Certainly confusing.
Oh yes.
Logan international.
Also a miasma of lane.
Oh, there's so many, oh man, birds, huh?
What fucking pieces of shit they are.
But little by little, sin opened the SLA circle to Patty and it was a time for her to be a
part of the world.
She was a big fan of the world.
She was a big fan of the world.
She was a big fan of the world.
She was a big fan of the world. She was a big fan of the world. She was a big fan of the world. She was a big fan of the world. She was a big fan of the world. man, birds, huh? What fucking pieces of shit they are. But little by little sin opened
the SLA circle to Patty. And it was actually his paranoia that started it. See, sin believed
that if the FBI ever found them, they'd be forced to shoot their way out. And sin decided
that it would be best if Patty learned how to shoot her way out too. Well, you're hanging
out long enough. Yeah. For three days straight, Patty practiced
handling a sawed-off shotgun, breaking it apart,
putting it back together, and getting comfortable holding it,
mostly with the blindfold on.
For Patty, though, guns weren't that foreign
because she'd often gone hunting with her dad
when she was a kid.
But pretty soon, Patty figured out
that the more interest she took in what the SLA
members were saying,
the longer she was allowed to stay outside the closet.
She was constantly thinking of questions to ask them, and no matter how silly or stupid
those questions were, Sin and all the others would always answer in excruciating detail.
It's a good lesson to learn.
People like talking about themselves.
Ask questions. Mm-hmm
Patty also took up smoking to ingratiate herself even further because every
SLA member was a chain smoker because he couldn't smoke weed and he couldn't drink booze according to sinq
Mm-hmm one day though sin told everyone else to leave the room so he could talk to Patty alone
He told her that he'd have to ask the Symbionese Liberation Army War Council first
But he was thinking of letting her join just also you remember throughout this whole thing
Sin Q is telling her that there's millions of units that there's a whole army that we were on the verge of some
Massive flip like we were gonna do all of this shit. And so she's listening and talk about this it sounds completely outlandish
but she doesn't know you know like she has no idea whether or not there actually is a
sea of terrorists or not but it sounds really legit at the very time and then but I told
I but I think there's a little bit of like a you guys let me in real fast yeah.
On Sen's words Patty was like the pet chicken people have on the farm.
When it comes time to kill it for Sunday dinner, no one really wants to do it.
He said this to her.
Yes.
So, like in other revolutionary movements, when an enemy soldier is captured, Patty was
given a choice.
Fight for us or die.
I feel like a lot of farmers don't give a shit.
Yeah, they just kill
the chicken. I feel like that's the whole point of being a farmer is that
you're raising it to kill it. Yeah, you're done with the eggs, now I kill you and eat you. What would
happen to you? This is the dust bowl and you had one chicken left and then you're
gonna go feed the family and then you as the father tell your hungry children
like unfortunately me and Dizzy are best
friends now.
You know, you're like, no, you're going to eat the chicken.
But before Patti was let into the SLA officially, she had to endure a horrible ordeal twice
over.
One night, Jelena whispered in Patti's ear that Kajo wanted to quote, get it on with
her because everyone was feeling much more
comradely towards her since she first arrived. That was their word, comradely. See, Jelena explained
that as a part of Patty's education, she needed to learn what it's like to live in an underground
cell in every way. It's a whole lifestyle girlfriend. Yeah, but the SLA, free sex was a
principle of the cell.
Because underground revolutionaries, they couldn't very well go out into the street and pick someone up in the usual way.
And it's not because we're not charming. It's not because we're not incredible, amazing, romantic revolutionaries.
That's for certain, and attractive, and ready to fuck.
Certainly not that at all. No, no, no, no. Everybody wants us.
It's so hard to choose the date.
So everyone in the cell had to take care of the needs of everyone else.
And while no one was forced to have sex, or so Jelena said,
it was very comradely to always say yes if asked.
It's almost sorta like it's like forced.
Yes. By the group, yeah.
Immediately after Jelena explained
this Kajo entered the closet raped Patty and left three days later Sin did the
same thing now while Patty was just trying to survive the fucking closet
much less everything that came after her father was looking for help to organize
Sin's unrealistic demand that the Hearst family personally feed
every poor person in California.
I have very little nice to say about any other member of the Hearst family.
They're all, they all don't need to be around, but he did try his best.
Randy tried really fucking hard.
He did try to find her very, very badly, but it's like, that's what he kind of said.
This story would be very different
if this was the story of a young woman
that was kidnapped for a month
and then a very powerful family sent in a band
of mercenaries to kill them all one by one, right?
Like this would be a very different story.
He did try to work his way around this.
And like, and weirdly in a way,
he learned a lot about people.
Like Randy Hurst had to talk to poor people
for the first time in his life.
And it really was, like, it sounds like it was kind of
an educational experience for him.
Now the SLA, I'm sorry if this is a little off topic,
did they have jobs?
Where did they get money?
My friend.
We'll talk about it later. Okay. Now, since this was San Francisco in 1974
and the operation involved the underprivileged class, who else should pop up their head offering
help but the Reverend Jim Jones? Six years before Guyana, would you like a drink? His
offer was politely declined, but incredibly this will not be the last we'll hear from
Jim Jones in this series.
Yeah, dude, everybody's hanging out in this type of area.
It's like they're all there, dude.
Elrond Hubbard's in town.
He's literally in San Luis Obispo.
So he's like right down the street.
Even though Randy soon found people that seemed like they knew what they were doing, the program,
which was actually attempted, was nevertheless a disaster on most fronts.
Millions of dollars worth of food was distributed at points in San Francisco, Richmond, East
Palo Alto, and Oakland.
It actually happened.
Yeah, and on the day of distribution distribution thousands of people lined up for food but while it went okay at best in the first three cities riots broke
out in Oakland 21 people ended up in the hospital and one woman lost an eye. She
ended up suing both the Hearst family and the city of Oakland for a million
dollars. Soon after Hearst publicly communicated to the SLA that he could not contribute any more
money to the food distribution program.
So in response, the SLA left a package behind a toilet in a popular San Francisco restaurant.
Inside the package was another tape, this one recorded by Jelena and Patty.
Jelena was not one of the SLA members who spoke with a faux black accent, but she
did speak with one on this tape, possibly because Sin was starting to feel insecure
that there were no black people in his black liberation movement.
Do you think that he would just straight up say like, you need to sound blacker?
I think so.
Wow.
I think on this one, because I mean, why else would Jelena use it? You know, like to feel cool. Yeah. I think that they all
are also like that's the or disguise or voice. Yeah. But they're posers. These guys are
they are posers legitimately. These are the D these people are the definition of posers. They are,
you know what a good word for them is dips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a good word for them.
These guys are, they're just, they're not good at any of this.
And I feel like a lot of it was just to kinda like make SinQ smile.
But after Jelena said her piece demanding that the SLA be allowed to communicate with their comrades in prison,
live on national television,
she handed the microphone to Patty, whose frequent conversations with SLA members had
somewhat changed the tone of her voice.
In this communique, which was typed and written for her to read, Patty said that she no longer
feared the SLA because they were not the ones who wanted her to die.
She realized now, it was written, that it was actually the FBI who wanted her to die. She realized now, it was written,
that it was actually the FBI who wanted to murder her.
She also said that she'd been issued a 12-gauge shotgun
to protect herself, which did not sound good.
Now, Patty's tone and the content of the speech,
this was the first time that public opinion
started to turn against Patty Hearst,
and it seemed like there were very few people
willing to speculate that she might just be
going along to get along.
I think there's a couple factors here.
I think one is she had learned to talk the talk
of the SLA within the SLA in order to,
according to her, further ingratiate herself to the crew.
Which makes total sense.
Just to stay out of the closet.
Absolutely, and then what you're talking, like legitimately these guys, like, unfortunately, I'm not,
it's like, it's why some of this, the, the, the, the, the political stuff is a little
hard to understand is that it's a language.
It's a language and there's a glossary of terms.
And so she started inhabiting the terms.
And so I think there's-
And the patter too.
And the patter.
And so I think that the second option is also like, they're looking at her being like, Oh, how would she even get to know all of this if she didn't want to be
a part of it? Like there's no way this little girl would be clever enough to, to fake this.
She has to be an utter of revolutionary now, even though it's been a couple of weeks.
It's a couple of weeks.
Yes. That's what I was about to ask.
Or she has to be brainwashed.
We'll brainwash the big term.
Yeah, that's the big term here.
Yeah, but there's no, but no one's entertaining.
Like maybe she's clever enough to fake it.
Maybe she's lying.
Also, she was kidnapped.
Yeah.
You know, like she, even if she did go to the other side,
you still have to save her.
You're gonna come against this.
We're gonna come against this time and time again.
But it's got to do with her last name.
Yep. And this was, after all,
1974. And the elder
generation after the tumult of the 60s
had come to see the youth of America
as dangerous and unpredictable.
To the establishment, it wasn't unthinkable
that a young woman, even a hearst,
almost especially a hearst,
could very easily be turned into a violent
Marxist in just a month. But as Patty put it, she was ready to do or say anything the
SLA asked however they wanted it said, because her life was firmly in their hands.
And yeah, it was a month at this point.
Still!
Yeah. Now, on March 21, Patty was told that their safe house was getting hot, so the SLA moved
Patty to a new location in a plastic garbage can with two holes cut in the top that they
tossed in the trunk of the car.
Yeah, they put her in a garbage can and that's how they brought her back and forth.
Oh my God.
You know they were just getting evicted.
Yeah.
Hey listen, we heard you having that fake party last night.
We're actually, we just
hate you. The whole building hates you, everybody else just hates you. Have a real party, okay?
As they left, Zoya told Patty that if she let out a single sound, she was going to fill
the garbage can full of holes with her machine gun. So Patty did as she was told, spending
45 minutes silently banging around in the trunk of an
SLA car.
Once they got to the new safe house, Jelena, usually the friendly one, made fun of Patty
for how docile she'd been, saying that they could have taken her out into the woods to
shoot her and Patty wouldn't have known the difference.
And you're like, yeah.
Exactly.
It's kind of an issue here.
Well, cause it's funny. Cause like someone like
her, this shows the sort of like double layer of, I am a revolutionary and I'm an actual
child that just barely got out of college. And this is a fun adventure for me. Like I
believe that people like Jelena, Jelena looks at this as like
She even believed she think that we would take her out to a field and shoot her in the head
Meanwhile like you have a submachine gun. Yeah, and you put her in a garbage bag and you've been telling her you were gonna shoot Her in the head. She's been raped twice and now we're all gonna ask like
Patty you're crazy
So dramatic well much to Patty's horror when she was brought inside the new safe house, she found that
her new closet was a pantry.
It was only about two feet deep.
The door, however, didn't close, which meant Patty could see what was happening outside
at night.
That's when she discovered that she was guarded at all times by two heavily armed SLA members.
In that moment, she realized that a simple escape in the middle of the night
was nothing but another fantasy she had to disabuse.
Now after a few days in the new safe house,
Sin approached Patty again about joining the SLA.
And without hesitation, Patty told him that she wanted to join and fight for the people,
knowing now that joining was the only way to survive.
Wow. But in order for her to join, all of joining was the only way to survive. Wow.
But in order for her to join, all of the SLA had to unanimously agree.
So they have the sit downs like they do in Drag Race All Stars?
They do that.
That's exactly what it was.
Now tell me, like, why do you think you deserve to be the new SLA All Star?
I just feel that I messed up one time.
I just feel that this competition is about consistency.
And according to the rules, Jelena's been in the bottom two twice now.
So I just feel like it would be fair to send Jelena out.
So for a full week, Patty had to have heart-to-heart talks with every member of the cell,
where she regurgitated
everything they'd taught her during her long re-education seminars.
Just understand that this is the acting job of her fucking life.
You have to get that on some point during this process, like whether you believe or
not that she was quote unquote capital B brainwashed. You have to believe that during this section,
she had to show that she truly believed she had to. This is her knowing that if she doesn't
convince them in this moment, she is very probably going to get shot in the head.
Yeah. Because they did at one point say like, you know, you could maybe go home or you could
stay and fight with us.
That was not an option.
No, going home means dying.
Anybody that says, and I've seen several sources that try to say like, they tried to let her
go home in the beginning.
They did not.
That is absolute utter horseshit.
They've already killed people.
There is no reason why she shouldn't think that she's not going to get killed by them.
Yes. While most members loved Patty's enthusiasm,
Tekko and especially Yolanda weren't convinced.
Yolanda was grim-faced, withdrawn, and mean.
A perfect match for Tekko, who was himself an arrogant twat.
As a result, they both questioned Patty for hours in front of the whole group.
Even Sin had a bit of a hard time believing that
Patty was truly as gung-ho about the cause as she seemed to be. And at one point, he asked her
if she was sure that she hadn't been brainwashed. Have you been brainwashed?
But Patty flipped the script and clinched it by asking Sin,
you don't believe the pigs in the press, do you? That's just brilliant. Genius.
It's very smart.
And so, one day, Patty was led to a meeting where she sensed a decision had been made.
Sin told her that the sisters and brothers had voted for her to join this particular
SLA combat team.
Sin declared that she was now a guerrilla fighter and soldier in the Symbionese Liberation Army.
Wow!
And that's when Patty took off her blindfold and got a good look at her revolutionaries for the first time since the night of her kidnapping.
She thought, remember, that most of these people were black people, a part of this black liberation movement.
Yes.
And she thought that they would all be these sexy
dangerous looking
Yes
She later wrote that her first thought was oh god, what a bunch of ordinary unattractive little people
No, it's the C team
She realized like oh shit, you're a bunch of
Children. Yeah, but of course she didn't say this instead. The first thing she said was like, oh my god, you're also
Attractive yeah, right Instead the first thing she said was like, Oh my God, you're also attractive. She then had to identify each SLA member by their voice and members were delighted when
she was able to name all of them in turn.
Reactive.
Let me do the impersonation.
Hey, how you doing?
And they reacted as if they were celebrities being recognized by a fan.
That is so weird.
It's not what I sound like.
It sounds like me.
No awareness that that's how they were going to get sent to prison.
Just like everyone else in the SLA, Patty Hearst needed a new name, but she was not
given a Swahili name.
Instead, she was given the name of one of Che Guevara's
guerrilla fighters which really burned Yolanda's ass. Oh yeah. But nevertheless from that day
forward Patty Hearst was known as Tanya to the rest of the SLA. Tanya the fierce. Tanya the
unredeemable. Tanya the Tucker. Yeah. Well Tanya. You know that T Tanya is named Che Guevara's girlfriend?
Yeah, that's what she was named after.
And that's why Yolanda was mad.
She was like, I'm Che Guevara's girlfriend.
As the new recruit, Patty was given a tour of the safe house and was assigned cleaning
duty.
See, contrary to what you might think, each member of the SLA was expected to be clean
and they were expected to appear impressive at all times.
Sin didn't even approve of blue jeans
because he said black people don't wear jeans.
And such clothes didn't instill the respect the SLA needed from the people.
Sin, we're not black!
But maybe one day, maybe one day it'll all be different.
You mean I'm going to stay this
color?
It was during cleaning, though, that
Patty realized just how heavily
armed the SLA was.
The bedroom closet had machine guns,
rifles, a shotgun,
and weapons Patty didn't even
recognize.
They also had bombs.
They had sticks of dynamite.
And as far as Patty's first SLA weapon went, she was issued an M1 carbine.
Once they said that she was in, she was fucking in.
Yeah, man.
That's a quick initiation.
You're a prisoner and here's your gun.
Here's your gun.
All right.
Honestly, I'm so glad we're over that prisoner bit.
Don't you love that gun?
Yeah.
Once she was in, once that day came when she said, I'm joining you, she had spent 57 days
in the closet and she had about 540 days left to go with the SLA.
Now that's around this time that Patty first saw Yolanda
bouncing around the house in the blue bathrobe Patty had been wearing when she
was kidnapped. Since the kidnapping the female members of the SLA had sewn up
the rips and tears and delighted in sharing it with one another. Patty also
realized that the toothbrush she'd been using all this time was a communal toothbrush that every member of
the SLA shared.
Having your own,
Oh yeah.
I used it twice.
I got a lot of plaque in there.
Apparently having your own toothbrush, they said was a bourgeois luxury as was bathroom
privacy. The SLA believed that no comrade should close the door while showering or going to the bathroom
No matter how nasty of a shit you were taken
They insisted that it was uptight for anyone to be embarrassed over normal bodily functions. That's why I poop my pants
I'll just sing his phone. It's Cal and strike shows my authority. It's the only thing they had in common with Lyndon Johnson.
Yeah, pissing the door open.
If they knew, they might have understood him more.
Now one morning, Patty noticed that Zoya and Sin were having a conversation that was far
different from the regular revolutionary pattern.
Instead, they were discussing the logistics of robbing a liquor store.
When they noticed Patty's confusion, they very simply said, look, we need the money. We need money. Gotcha. But after discussing it
more, Sin declared that the SLA had no choice but to rob a bank, which was met by audible
gasps from the other members. Because they were all like, that's amazing. Because they thought, because he was, SinQ was so delusional.
He was just like, fuck, fuck a goddamn liquor store.
It's like, no, we need to go up to the top where the pigs are, the bank.
But was he delusional?
Because it fucking worked.
And as Sin put it,
People said I was wrong.
People said that cum humor would never ever get you a wife.
But guess what man?
I'm living proof.
Well, as Sin put it, the cell needed thousands of dollars, not hundreds.
But while the robbery was still in its planning stages, the SLA wanted to show off their newest
recruit.
Sin ordered Zoya to dress up Patty like a combat soldier for a picture to send to the press.
After putting her in fatigues, they handed Patty a semi-automatic gun and had her pose in front of a homemade
Symbionese Liberation Army flag. It's the only thing that makes me mad is because the flag's awesome.
Yeah.
It's like it symbols awesome. I love it. It's stupid, but it's great.
It's to what, a Symbian on a white flag.
The Symbian liberation army.
It's a, it's a Symbian with two flaming wings.
Hang by your vagina at the very top.
Zoya then took a Polaroid and sent it to the press.
And it's this photo with Patty holding the gun that lives in the minds of many.
When they think of Patty Hearst, the very front of the tube and fucking express video thing that he did.
Along with the photo was a taped message from Patty in which she said that she was now Tanya,
urban gorilla, and she ended the message with the words of the Cuban revolutionary from whom she took her name.
She said,
Patria o muerte, vencemos.erte, Vencermos.
Ooh, aye, aye, aye.
And that means, Fatherland or death, we shall be victorious.
And it makes absolutely no fucking sense in this context.
It makes sense in Cuba, like, for like, you know, urban guerrillas, like, fighting for their freedom.
But it does not make any fucking sense here.
It's almost like they didn't have a tacit understanding of what they were talking about.
Yeah. But Patty, she's got a sense of humor about this. Like years later, she was having
a con like she had a conversation with John waters in 2020 in town and country magazine.
And John water said that Patty Hearst once told him that that picture is going to be
picture they use in her obituary when she dies. But Patty said,
the only good thing about it, at least I was thin. But either way, it's with Patty's further
involvement with the SLA and the bank robbery that made this the biggest crime story of
the decade that will return next week with Patty Hearst part two.
Damn, a lot of shit here, dude.
Full story. We're gonna get into the full story of the SLA,
their full history, and shit, man, what comes after the bank robbery is fucking insane!
It's just as crazy. There's a whole third act to the story that that's what made this kind of longer.
Yeah.
Was because there's a third act to this that I did not know even existed.
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