Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 589: Horrors of SeaWorld Part II - Free Tilly

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

This week the boys conclude the Horrors of SeaWorld starting with the tragic story of how Tilikum the Whale ended up in the hands of the animal-based theme park, the latter half of his life/career, an...d the controversial deaths of trainers Keltie Lee Byrne and Dawn Brancheau. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes and get exclusive access to bonus content.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to. This is the last time. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Oh, yeah! 9-11 week is the best time to do a show. You know, I almost forgot. You know, me too. 11 week is the best time to do a show.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You know, I almost forgot. You know, me too. I was like, what is happening this week? That's the 23rd anniversary. Why is this cop crying right now? That was my first question. And then I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. Because his lungs are bleeding.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Welcome to Last Podcast on the the left ladies and gentlemen. We watched the reading of the names this morning. I'm Marcus Parks. We do it every 9-11. With me is Henry Zabrowski. I taped mine on the VCR and then what I'm going to do is tonight I'm going to go watch it because some of my favorite names are on there. There's Ronnie McDungle.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Have you seen some of these? They're great. Have you seen some of these? They're great. Have you seen Sarah Brefs? Very sad she died on 9-11. One of my favorite names. Yeah, I always stick around for Red Pepper and then around Red Pepper, there's a woman whose last name is Red Pepper.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Around the time of Red Pepper, that's when I start to kinda check out a little bit. That's when you get bored. Yeah, do they read all the names or just the people who died in the towers? Like, do they read the Pentagon names or just the people who died in the towers? All the names. Do they read the Pentagon names too? And the United 25 names?
Starting point is 00:01:29 What about the pilots? I can't remember. And so we're not even naming the Al Qaeda guys that are even the reason for the season? You mean to tell me of all of the names that are not on that list, those guys aren't there? They did die. You know? In the towers. None of that plaque wouldn't be there if it wasn't for them. Yeah, it's true. It's like when they skipped
Starting point is 00:01:49 Gilbert on the Oscar Memorial. Oh don't even get me started Not the horrors of 9-eleven no not yet, but the horrors of the underwater world. We're not in the sky We're in the sea or at least an approximation of the sea at SeaWorld and bring us back into it Ah yes, it was lovely. You know it was a great response You know it felt it felt really good a lot of messages a couple people who worked for SeaWorld reached out to me Yeah, they're trying to cover their fucking things there was I will say one of them was like it's great over here But yeah, no, it's uh, it was a thank you everyone who sent me the lovely messages. I really appreciate it It's been interesting you get You did some detective work this week.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Well, this is a week that I started with orcas, killer whales, I did a little bit of research into one of the deaths that we'll talk about today, the Alexis Martinez death, but it is kind of interesting where I slid right into the world of man-eating tigers. Yeah. Have you done any reading about man-eating tigers?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah, dude, it's fucking nuts. We really need to do even a more extensive series on man-eating tigers. This is great, I feel like I'm inspiring you. Yes, and for those of you that don't know, so this is all throughout, it's some Asian countries, but a lot of it's in India. And what you're seeing is, so a man-eating tiger
Starting point is 00:03:24 is what, by seeing is so a man-eating tiger is what by definition is a tiger that has shifted its entire diet to eating only humans and hunting systematically only humans yeah and so it's happened time and time again like there was one that like they're all like I guess what was that one movie with Val Kilmer? Oh the ghost of the darkness, but that's lions Yes, and so it's not the same but the stuff like the Champawat Tiger this one tiger killed at least 200 people I love these stories Yeah, this is this one and but what's interesting is that they they found out is that it's because in rural India
Starting point is 00:04:03 They have a relationship with the wildlife or that they live in that is extremely different than any other culture. Like they are totally fine with living with some of the world's deadliest animals in their backyard. They have kind of a symbiosis with them. And they sort of-
Starting point is 00:04:21 Once you get used to it, you know. You got to. They're just used to it. But the problem is, is that they're're getting because of the population increases in India, they're going further and further into the Tigers territory. So they get super territorial. But what the main thing is, is that they become man eating tigers mostly because like a tiger will eat a person every once in a while. Yeah. But normally it's out of confusion. They say the one thing that like the tigers do is that they'll stalk the guys picking rice, right? As they go down, as they crouch down. Why is that baby ox on two legs? Yes, but what the thing is, is that apparently tigers,
Starting point is 00:04:54 they get real close as they're under in the grass. You don't even know they're there. No, but then when they stand up, when humans stand up, tigers become disinterested, because largely they are afraid of human beings. They don't want to be anywhere near humans. Because humans have killed millions of them. Yeah, we're dangerous monkeys. We're dangerous, highly dangerous. But when tigers get injured and they don't get fixed, they said what happened with the Champawat tiger, first of all, as they realized that,
Starting point is 00:05:22 is that she had a upper and lower canine teeth on the right side of the mouth that were completely broken. The that she had a upper and lower canine teeth on the right side of the mouth that were completely broken. The upper one and a half, the lower one was right down to the bone. And when they realized, it's like, oh, tigers that normally switch to full man-eating have hurt themselves in a way that they can no longer go after their own prey. So now they are going after the highly defenseless pink monkeys that we are and they realize they could do it one by one but then they Start to learn they'd like tigers are so good at hunting
Starting point is 00:05:50 They start to recognize when a man is armed or not armed They start to recognize whether or not he's alone or not because they only go after single humans Because like that's the thing they're opportunity hunters and they try to stay come at you with surprise It's like it's crazy. I mean I ain't trying to fight more than one person. No, I ain't either But what I've been getting into is like, you know, I mean, I know everyone's watching chimp crazy right now All this new Travis the champ footage that I've never seen crazy Yeah, Travis the chip of course brutal the chimp that you know rip the woman's face off You know and almost killed her chewed her hands off. Yeah chewed her hands up because man. That's what they do
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's what the chimps do they go for the face they go for the hand anything that you can attack them with they remove Yeah I but the saddest one was when that showed that Travis after he got shot Multiple times by the cop and then he ran back to his enclosure. You just sort of see his hand That's like slowly gripping the weird little dungeon prison that he's been left in it's extremely sad Yeah, but can I just say we'll get back to this but with chimp crazy? What do we have to do to make sure Amber doesn't become Tanya? She doesn't become Tanya
Starting point is 00:07:19 But you know what's interesting with the man-eating tigers is that not only is so there's a issue with handling them as one is They try to find the man-eating tiger alone isolate the man-eating tiger, but it's difficult to do. It's because you have to find out there's a difference between if a tiger eats a human accidentally versus has been only eating humans, and they have to figure out how to prove that. So largely what all these people say is we kill the offending tiger, and then we leave the other tigers alone. We're trying to keep them from mass killing all of the tigers, which they at this point have yet to do. mass killing all of the tigers, which they at this point have yet to do. But the next issue is that their environmentalists wonder, they protest every single time they kill a tiger, whether or not it's man-eating tiger or not, because they're like, we need every tiger that we can get. So that's interesting. But number three, the worst seems to be the side effects, of course, with the deadliest
Starting point is 00:08:02 animal of all, humankindankind because sometimes man-eating tiger goes berserk. Nobody knows what to do. This tiger seems to kind of be they don't know how to handle it. So there's people within the town have to debate. Do we kill it or not? Do we go after it or not? Blah blah blah turns into an angry mob.
Starting point is 00:08:21 All of a sudden the town is in flames. Like they literally, mobs of men getting drunk and mass sexual assaults, mass fires, all, it's bad. It's crazy. I don't know why that happens over tigers. Tiger riots. Yeah, tiger riots, but that's my research project. Thank you for that actually, that was, it's a good palate cleanser.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Isn't it? Project thank you for that actually that was it's good. It's a good palate cleanser All right, so I'm gonna take you to November 1983 Iceland before Tillicum Killed three people in captivity. He was a chill ass orca Eating fish and he loved playing with his family I mean, but we don't know how much he loved being with his family Well, we knew that he cried when they stole him from them How about that?
Starting point is 00:09:13 I'll get to it in a second some big tears One day while frolicking in the waters off of whoo-hoo, please try to pronounce this Barrowfoot or dirt. I'm gonna look at you know what I know I know how to pronounce.. Barrowfoo-der? I'm gonna look it up. You know what? I know how to pronounce it. Can you do it? Yeah. Barrowfoo-der. Yes. So one day... I mean that's the best that I can do. But yeah. One day, while frolicking in the waters off of
Starting point is 00:09:36 Barrowfoo-der. His family was rounded up by thugs and he was kidnapped from his home. Whalenapped. Yes. Caff-napped. Yes. Yes. Calf-napped, I guess. The way this happened to Tilikum was the hunters trapped the entire pot of orcas in a net,
Starting point is 00:09:54 and then they pick out the smallest of the orcas, pull them out of the water with a sling, which this time was Tilikum. Sure. Tilikum was then lifted into a boat, placed in a tub a little larger than his body, half filled with sea water. The rest of his family are released because they're too large to get on the boat. They want to get the calves.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's an easier transport. This is extremely traumatizing for not only Tilikum, but his entire pod. I did see some writings talking about the emotional sensitivity of orcas and whales, and it is, they are extremely smart. Oh yeah. They are like, they are. No, they straight up cry.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They have emotions. Yeah. And they have, yeah, they have connections. They make intellectual connections. Remember we said, biggest brain of all the animals. Yeah, biggest cock Tilikum was on the boat and he could hear the screams of his family for hours as they chased the boat away His mother of course chased the longest she followed for miles until she was too tired to continue
Starting point is 00:11:02 before this point Tilikum This is like you said this is like how a charles manson got started fucking souping it up here before this point till a common never been chum killer chum before this till a common never been more than a few feet from his mother orcas have incredible hearing and the silence of not hearing his mother anymore was for sure
Starting point is 00:11:30 Defining and he does this help You remember side note You remember? Side note, when orcas are bred in captivity, the calf is taken from the mother. The mother calls and clicks for months in search for her lost calf. As time goes by, the calls get louder because she's trying to send calls miles away. But of course, they are not heard miles away because she's in a tank. I imagine Tilikum's mother did the same thing off of Iceland. All Tilikum could hear all Tilikum could hear on the boat was the crassness of sailors and the ship's engines.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You're sad at them going like, I come to the S.R.I.T. and then I flipped her out when it was meat He was then moved from the ship to a flatbed truck driven to a concrete structure in a shed Moved from the ship to a flatbed truck driven to a concrete structure in a shed In this tiny shed are two other female orcas. Well, this is like the beginning of a fucking whale porn I you've you want to look at it that way sure These orcas a child He's listed to come on yeah, but in York a years they can that's when they there that would make them for These orcas start to scream at him in a language. He does not understand They are confused by him and hate him because they were also recently kidnapped from their respective pods
Starting point is 00:13:19 He's bigger than both of them and takes up a lot of room in the shed that is already Too small for the two of them and takes up a lot of room in the shed that is already too small for the two of them He spends a year in his cell One day he's removed and put in the back of a truck driven to an airport put into a cargo plane and flown over to Victoria british columbia in canada to an amusement park named sea land of the pacific This was thousands of miles from iceland obviously this concept was lost on him. Yeah, he doesn't know maps Yeah, it's like the Charlie Manson Institutionalized fucked up in the fucking system and then put in amongst the people you expect me to get better in here
Starting point is 00:13:58 Wait till he gets at a point where he draws a swastika on his forehead But quickly soon afterwards I'd be like How do you learn to do that? There's no fucking no sharp angles in the ocean find out there's an employee at SeaWorld that's just been reading a mine comp every night I've been a doodling. The fish are delicious. So he was placed in a containment area that's in the ocean surrounded by nets and docks. It wasn't like an actual pool or anything.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But it was netted off and the people observed him from the docks during the day, flashing cameras and yelling, oh, that's a big fish, eh? Very good Canadian. Thank you. It wasn't, it sounded British. I'm trying to help. I'm not trying to roast here.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh, that's a big fish, eh? That's better, right? Oh, that's a big fish there, eh? Oh, yeah, right there. But I tell you what, I seen a bigger fish. And let me tell you, I'd seen a bigger fish and let me tell you I'd see that Oh when I was over in Westminster, I saw a fish twice that size That's the thing though is that you're operating under the principle that that there's a fish and it's actually not a fish mister
Starting point is 00:15:16 That's a mammal. Thank you fucking Canadian. Give me a goddamn lecture Eventually they move till they come to a larger enclosure with two other killer whales, Nutka and Haida. They're much smaller but also not fond of him because he's so big and he takes up a lot of space and they're already cramped in closure. I just saw a wire. I'm sorry. That is like his bane. It's consistently, like through his entire life. He was bullied by smaller whales that could maneuver around him and like kick his ass
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, that's awful. Yeah, they begin to bully sometimes the big deserve it We'll take it to the parking lot in a little bit They begin to bully him and beat up on them They ram him rake their teeth on him and during the evening the three of them are locked up in an even smaller Indoor tank adjacent to the pool. So you saying them they were mean is interesting because I don't know why Obviously, this is my issue. Uh-huh, but when I see the names newt cut and hide up like I just imagine like nutka and Haida like I just imagine like Two orcas with big huge tits and big steins of beer and big blonde hair and a plate of sausages and stuff But maybe that's just cuz it's just me. Yeah. No, I don't think it really holds water at all
Starting point is 00:16:36 Nine the the tank held water The owner of sea land didn't want them overnight and the the owner of seal and didn't want him overnight and the And held in by just the nets and fear they would chew through it and escape So at night they put him in the small pool The three of them would be locked in the module for 14 hours at a time from 5 p.m. To 7 a.m every god damn day Most nights newt good and the hide a attack tele. If he didn't get lacerated from their teeth, it would be the metal walls of the tank. There was hardly enough room for the orcas to turn around in the tanks.
Starting point is 00:17:18 One night, Nuukka attacked Tilikum so intensely that she hurt herself when she rammed her head into him. She bounced her body off of the side of the tank and started bleeding out of her blowhole. Tilikum obviously became depressed. His dorsal fin slouched over and he was constantly covered in open wounds. And during the day he was forced to perform for dead fish. He very much would prefer to hunt and catch his own fish like he did in the wild.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Of course! My God. If he refused to go into his nighttime enclosure with the other prisoner whales that beat him up, the humans would withhold food from him. In fact, they would often withhold food from him regardless to ensure that he would do tricks for the little food that they gave him.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I always think that so many people like to check big people. Oh my god to kind of my whole childhood Oh, yes, I'd have to fight all the goddamn time because I was the biggest guy around But there's something about this where it's like this idea Humans are very interesting this idea that you look at this 3,000 pound killing machine 12,000, you know, you know me Look at this three thousand pound killing machine twelve thousand, you know, you know, I mean And your mind is I can handle that thing. This is the first thing you thought being like, yeah, let's figure that out Yeah, he's gonna be begging for fish. Yeah, it's back get two more. Let's get people to come look at him Yeah, be meanwhile like I feel like it's like the out with bringing back to Chimp Crazy
Starting point is 00:18:43 Every single moment of Chimp Crazy When they wouldn't the one where was like they were all watching TV they're watching that they were with the chimp that was watching the chimp from 2001 on the screen and this chimp is just going like And they're all like laughing and shit and then like they showed old footage of them handling attending a toddler to one of the They showed old footage of them handing a toddler to one of the champs and they're all laughing. Oh my god, it drove me insane. I'm just sitting there like, I'm just waiting for it to just rip it to pieces.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, you know it's not going to, but still it's in your head. It's this close. I know man, there was that one footage of him like, brought the teenager over to play and then he starts fucking like going nuts on him and starts grabbing at his arm. They're like, okay, okay, okay, this is really scary, very suddenly. And he starts fucking like go nuts on him and starts grabbing at his arm look because like But they all just think they can reason with this animal No, it's not it's not a fucking person No, I feel like this is like the perfect week to do this episode with all the chimp crazy stuff Yeah, yeah, it really is man should it that's the thing we were talking about this at home. Man made two categories of animal for that.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Dogs and cats. We have all agreed that we have, we made dogs and cats for this purpose. If we just, I completely agree, if we spent generations mutilating cats and dogs to make them great, to be kept inside of the the house if it wasn't for the centuries of Eugenics dog eugenics call me would not be able to exist No, you know, so but that's dogs were domesticated thousands of years before the wheel Yes, they were a part. They've been a part of the human story ever since we literally have had communities So they are but they are made to be with us now at this point. Chimps are not.
Starting point is 00:20:26 No. Well, anyway, Nuke can hide over in heat. Oh, all right. I think my vision is coming a little closer. And Tilikum, he's still a pup at this point, but they dominated him and then made him have sex with him as them against his will. So he was raped?
Starting point is 00:20:45 Tilikum was raped. Whoa! In the beginning, yes. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. In Tilikum, he is Panzram. Yeah, and also the thing to know about Tilikum when he starts becoming a major part of the breeding program
Starting point is 00:21:00 is he was known to be a very sensitive lover. Hmm. Yeah. So Orcas had different styles of love making yeah, can Duke was a bastard Wow So what do you mean by like like it licked the clip? No, he would like he would like follow them nicely and like and like rub the side of them And like the orca would like look back Yeah, it was very it was very sensual when they can Duke would just like ram himself into the the poor little orca that he was
Starting point is 00:21:37 Impregnating. Wow, great. Yeah. Yeah, I asked you died and till the comb lived. Hey, that's how it goes So February 20th 1991 things took a much darker turn when Tillicum killed 20-year-old student and animal trainer Kelty Leigh-Byrne. What happened was, between shows, Kelty slipped and one leg fell on the water, when that was all Tillicum needed. He grabbed her foot and dragged her into the pool. She broke loose for a moment, but there was no ladder out and Tillicum came back grabbed her again and Dragged her to the center of the pool
Starting point is 00:22:08 He dragged her to the bottom of the pool and held her there. The water was cold member up in Canada Witnesses said Kelty screened for help as Tillicum let her up for air briefly But was now a game for Tillicum fellow employees tried to free her with a long hook But Tillicum kept her away. They threw a life preserver and he kept her away from that as well Staff was doing everything they could to distract Tillicum to release her but he would not there's something about like this I was reading one about one of the tiger attacks that had happened in captivity And also the the royal the Siegfried and Roy attack yes the Roy attack was that was in front of an audience of people that's interesting because they tried to take but it's imagining all of the people desperately
Starting point is 00:22:52 like this giant animal is playing with a dead body in a pool like you hit it with a baseball bat it won't affect yes man but they're literally like shaking keys at it like it's crazy I like a lot of water the water and they're shaking keys at it They got a little fish and they go like stop it stop it now Please stop it and then all they that's all they could do because it's a 12,000 pound killing machine. Yeah until it come he brought her under again and again Letting her get brief gulps of air. The other whales
Starting point is 00:23:25 began to join in at this point. He was playing with her, balancing her while she cried on his nose. Whoa, so she was alive for that long? She's still alive. Oh, she's still alive? Yes, she's still alive at this point. And then Nutka and Haida began tossing her back and forth as well. While she was fighting for air and survival, finally Tilikum took her underwater to her ultimate demise. Oh! The whole event
Starting point is 00:23:50 lasted for 15 minutes. Oh, I thought you meant she survived altogether. No, she's dead. Yeah. Yeah, she's very much dead. I assume. Yeah. Yeah, but now... 15 minutes. Yeah, just getting beach balled back and forth by a bunch of whales like three orcas After she was dead Tilikum refused to give her back and he continued to play with her dead body in front of the staff and onlookers Ted Bundy Finally they were able to retrieve her body with a weighted net when they brought her onto the dock She had been stripped naked and was covered in bruises and lacerations. Sea Land of the Pacific was not equipped to house these animals and ended up selling all
Starting point is 00:24:33 three to SeaWorld. What was Sea Land of the Pacific equipped to house? Penguins. Seals. Yeah. It was basically like on the water. Yeah. It was just like docks and shit and they had nets and it was very simple place.
Starting point is 00:24:47 So this is, it's like the sea equivalent of like a roadside zoo. Kind of. It seemed like it. Yeah. And they were trying to, but at least they knew enough to get rid of the whales after this. Okay. In captivity, Tilikom would go on to be Sea World's best stud, having 21 offspring in
Starting point is 00:25:05 captivity and 11 died before he did, and 7 of them are still performing to this day. Whoa! The rest were sent to other parks. He's Joe Jackson! No, Tilikum, like, when you come in another whale, like, do you think that he made other more agitable? Like agitated bull whales I guess not because really very much so yeah, because he is An aggressive whale yeah, and it is in his blood
Starting point is 00:25:36 And he's also mixing his aggressive whale blood with other whales from all over the world other different types of whales remember We have residents and you know and so there's there other different types of whales. Remember we have residents, and so there's different types of whales, transient whales. So, and he was a resident, so if he mixed with a transient, and then all of a sudden you got a whale that eats mammals that's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, man, we gotta be careful because that's how we got Chet Hanks. God knows where she caught that dick, man. For the record. You got two of your favorite references in under like two minutes. Joe Jackson and Chet Hanks. That's my dream blunt rotation. Joe Jackson, Chet Hanks, Bobby Bonilla.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Bobby Bonilla, JoJo Siwa and Elrond Hubbard. Yeah man, that's your group. That's my fucking group. That's my boys. Oh and what's his name, the little guy? Chris Chan? No? Chucky Chucky's Gonna be my employee
Starting point is 00:26:33 But you know before we go in for the record as we stated sea world has since ended their breeding program and Once these whales pass or become too old to perform they have pledged to end their orca shows entirely. So after this last batch. They're not doing it ever again. And also it's important to note that the trainers no longer get in the water with the orcas and that has happened since 2012. Well yeah, it sounds like that's the majority of the main issues here.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yes, yeah. So now the orca show is like there's a trainer on the side and they do tricks and it's more of like a presentation and they teach you about orcas. Good! Yeah, which is better for sure. One thing we haven't really talked about much yet and that's the trainers. From what I can tell most of the trainers are not marine biologists or scientists, but performers that love whales. A lot got into the job because it seemed like the coolest job in the world It does especially back in the 80s and 90s. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:27:31 You know, I thought I was enamored by it. Oh, yeah, it was like nothing I remember going to see one of these shows and see world and it's just like, you know, it's hot babes It's cool guys. Yeah, no like surfing on the whales Awesome. Yeah, but it's the same people that are like also working at like the Beetlejuice stage show. Now we know this. Yeah. At the time I used to think, well, they must be real experts. Yeah. But it's not till they all started working there till they really found out what was going on. Some of the trainers say that the only reason they stay working there is because they are scared of what will happen if they leave.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That makes total sense. Yeah, because- They built a relationship with the animal and they don't still want somebody- what if somebody comes in who's a total shithead? Exactly. So they love these animals. Oh yes. The emotional attachment between a whale and his trainer is stronger, if not stronger,
Starting point is 00:28:23 than we have with our cats and dogs well dogs for sure I don't know I refuse to believe that I mean I mean imagine if carmy was an orca How much more you would love her yeah? Then I'd have like a pool that I could throw my enemies into yes, but they don't need humans. They just kill them. That's the fun My enemies into yes, but they don't need humans. They just kill them. That's the fun Then I fish it out Then I feed the rest of the neighborhood. Honestly, I feel like it'd be a good way to for me to help feed the poor Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah people cannibalism
Starting point is 00:29:00 Also, you don't just become an orca trainer when you're hired At first they start you off working with like seals and dolphins and false killer whales and stuff like that. And then once you're excelling there, they will move you into the bigger pool with the bigger animals. At least it's not just been like, well, she was good at the tilter world, so let's toss her a cake up. I think she's ready to handle.
Starting point is 00:29:22 She slung some corn dogs pretty fast One ex-trainer Carol Ray remembered applying for a tour guide position and on her resume she put she had a psych degree a specialization in behavioral activities a scuba certification Theater training and was a competitive swimmer. Holy shit. Yeah, so they tried to make her an animal trainer instead of a tour guide But she declined she just wanted a job for the summer When she was a tour guide she was taught how to deal with problem guests who asked challenging questions Yeah, yeah, she was always me as a kid. Yeah She was told to avoid buzzwords and phrases like animals weren't captured but acquired. Yeah
Starting point is 00:30:04 Oh, you don't know how they got here Yeah, the animals weren't in cages or tanks but enclosures and aquariums Captivity was called controlled environment and animals never had sex they engaged in courtship behavior No animals fuck. I know but Know If someone asked where an animal was that had died there were simply said told to say It said of kill they just like actually it's in the tuna sandwiches in the panini press Instead of kill they say the animal ate
Starting point is 00:30:54 And they didn't ever want to say the word evolved because they were a Christian organization So SeaWorld had them use the word adapt So much more now no it was For me to dislike SeaWorld more you remember when Jesus was on the cross and he's like capture the whale Seas and bring back all of the great Go out under the seas and bring back all of the greatest fish and put on shows for the people in town. Jesus, yeah. Jesus sounds good to me. Tommy, uh, got a bit of a question. Uh, what's a whale? Ah, but you do not remember the parable of Jonah. Honestly, no. No, that was in the OG book.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I was walking on top of the water and I looked down. None of this shit's been written yet, dude. None of this shit's even been drafted yet, man. I believe Jordan the Whale's Old Testament. But I think Old Testament, do they have the Old Testament during Jesus's time? Yeah. I mean, it was mostly talks and stories, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I think at the time that it was just the testament. Yeah. Well, eventually SeaWorld convinced Carol to take a trainer position because they had to move some of the regulars to Texas. And then they started her with the Dolphins and the Belugas and the false killer whales. And she was soon promoted to Shamu Stadium.
Starting point is 00:32:21 She got a whole new batch of glossary terms once she moved there. The first thing she was told was to tell people was the Orca's only eight restaurant quality fish. Nothing but the best fish. Absolutely excellent fish. Top quality. You would get it anywhere at the Shoe City. You gotta love this fish. The best fish. Everybody knows it. They're all talking about it. Meanwhile, when the fish arrived in boxes they had not for human consumption stamped on the side of it. But that was just cause that restaurant quality fish was for the whales.
Starting point is 00:32:57 To make sure the humans didn't steal it. It said in really small words at the very bottom, jealous. So shambos, they eat over 200 pounds of fish a day at SeaWorld this includes smelt herring Mackerel salmon is a treat and other fish and this is much like Joe Biden where there's multiple of them, right? Some are taller shorter They've never disclosed how much they spend on the fish, but it may be less than you think because they charge tourists money to buy fish from them to feed the dolphins and stingrays and dorkets.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So it's a pretty good business model. Yeah, I was at this place, I was at this gator reserve, which is probably, they also probably had to change their name at some point when I was in st. Augustine Yeah, it was really fun, but there was like an area where you go and the Gators are obviously Like way overfed. Yeah. Yeah, so that because they're five feet from you So I'm pretty certain they just feed him and feed him and feed him and feed him But a part of it was that you could go and spend you put a quarter in and you get a handful Alligator feed and then you just fucking- Was it just pellets? It was just pellets, but it's just like,
Starting point is 00:34:07 you're just watching countless children just literally pelt an alligator's side of its head by throwing feed, just throwing, and they're like, feed the gator again! Feed it again, Troy Joseph! And it's just like, just going like, ah, ah, just throwing feed at its its fate and is bouncing off of this ancient killing
Starting point is 00:34:29 And they're just kind of how I chomping it all up and there's so swollen and fat Dude when I was a kid my parents took me on vacation to pigeon Forge and there was this one t-shirt shop that had on The sign outside it said see and feed five live bears and I was like I want to go there That's where I need to go. So I go and they like I bought like a Cup of sliced up apples and then you're just on the second story Like walking on a catwalk above five bears that are just sleeping on concrete below you and you just throw the apples At the bears and they like slowly walk over and eat it all sadly and shit And you're like go so yeah, I will say I went to pigeon Forge last year, and it was no longer there. Oh good. Yes
Starting point is 00:35:14 Now those Bears working in the restaurant Paint them black and white put them in a pool Our extensive collection of these new marine bears. They're borkus? They're not drowning, they're drowning. Well, one of the things that never sat well with Carole Ray was the injury of San Diego trainer John Silek. That was in November of 1987. You've probably seen footage of this. If you've seen Blackfish, they show it to you. He was riding an orca named Newtka.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Another orca named Newtka? This was Newtka too. I believe it was Newtka's daughter, I believe, which probably was Tiluka's daughter I believe which probably was Tilikum's daughter as well. No yeah out of because he got he got hard he got hard so he got hard so the wow yeah under our common presidency that baby would be Not in Texas. John's... Don't fucking point at me. I haven't lived in that goddamn state in over 20 years. We know you're still running it. So John was riding the Orca and it was during a show and Orky 2 leaped out of the water and crashed on top of him, pinning him between the two whales. It didn't look that bad on the footage, but when you think about it, Orky too weighed 12,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah. And so John Sillick fractured his pelvis, his femur, ribs, along with other injuries, leaving him permanently disabled, and as far as I could tell, is in a wheelchair for life. Some people say wheelchair for life. I say I'm in a wheelchair for the fun of it but he have you ever met anybody who's broken their pelvis no I had there was a girl in high school that was a cheerleader and she
Starting point is 00:37:15 was it was one of those where she was thrown up and they caught her wrong and it snapped her fucking pelvis and it just looks like the worst possible injury ever. Yeah. Yeah, it's real bad Cuz you have to be entirely like stabilized. Yeah. No, you're in a body cast. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah And she had you she was she was very pretty and she was so sweet But she had to like come in in her body cast to school and it was just like it was hard cuz she was the girl on the body cast for the rest of the girl so it was a sure just like sitting in class. It's all like
Starting point is 00:37:47 Very hard for her. Yeah, I'm doing great. That had been very very difficult. Yes Well, you know what SeaWorld said about the whole thing trainer error Which would become a pattern for them whenever there was an incident and when Carol inquired for further details with others The only response consistently was it was trainer error. Soon, she had an incident of her own when baby Kalina bit her hand during training. So after two years, Carol Ray left the job. I could see that they are putting it on the trainers,
Starting point is 00:38:18 and it's interesting, because they don't want to put it on the whales, because then someone would have to come and do something about the whales. Exactly, and the whales are their big Moneymaker where the money it's the logo. Yeah, you know it's fucking they need these things there Incidents like hers and John's were not the only ones of course there was an incident with Tamarie Tullison in July of 2002 in San Diego
Starting point is 00:38:40 Tamarie was doing dry work with the two whales orchid and splash Tamarie was doing dry work with the two whales Orchid and Splash. She was building up a relationship with them, something that she and others had done many times before. During this, one of the orcas grabbed her foot and pulled her into the pool. Both is all on camera. This was filmed by a guest. Both Orchid and Splash began to play with her, tossing her back and forth while pulling her underwater
Starting point is 00:39:05 All while she screamed for help whenever she came up for air another trainer Robin Sheet made a very Intelligent split second decision that most likely saved Tamarie's life. He knew that Orchid and Splash were juveniles So he opened the gate to an adjacent pool Which allowed the more dominant female Orca? opened the gate to an adjacent pool, which allowed the more dominant female orca, cause soccer into their pool or can splash the Tamariko and she was able to escape with her life, but not fully intact Tamariz arm was totally broken, but like a bad ass, she was able to climb out of the pool to save her own life. Here is a picture of Tamarie's arm. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yeah, I feel like yeah, you'd see me burst out of the water like the human torch I mean you see this fucking asshole offering his hand to pull her out Couldn't imagine like getting like get killed by something with a cute name like splash. Yes, it's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:40:19 It's so it's it's very hard, you know, it's like and you anyway, it's it's when you talk about these, you know Candu and Corky, you know the cute names of these stories make it extremely more chilling. It really does So Orkin was 13 years old. I always think of them porky though. Yeah, you know what it is You know, it's one of the most chilling sounds in the world Is that it's like who did it great was with Jordan Peele with Nope where that sound of the emergencies happened The audience is freaking out right you're watching people run from the stands, but then the silence of
Starting point is 00:40:58 the room when you sort of see the aftermath of the dead body floating in the water with the orca but you still hear the world of wonder Music playing as you're watching an orca nose of The mini video games based on like Bioshock infinite and I based on that exact There's been many video games based on like Bioshock Infinite and all based on that exact So orchid the whale the one that pulled her in the water we think he could have been orchid or couldn't splash Was 13 years old when the incident took place and some say was the most intelligent whale at the park
Starting point is 00:41:47 She was also a deeply traumatized individual. I understand that orcas are not humans and vice versa, but Orca was born smack dab in the middle of a Shamu show in front of an audience of thousands. It does feel like, like it shouldn't register with the whale. It shouldn't register with the whale, but it's such an embarrassing, weird thing. But also there's a part of me that's like, because I'm addicted to the concept of showbiz, I've been like, that's Vaudeville, baby! Yeah, that's incredible! Barnistah!
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. But this whale, like this orca, the first thing that it experiences when it comes up from the water is a bunch of fucking monkeys screaming at Yeah, so orchids parents or Orchid to all right orchids parents were orky to and can do three days after she was born Her father orky to passed away from pneumonia and then Jason tank ammonia. Yes Orchid 2 passed away from pneumonia and an adjacent tank. Pneumonia? Yes, usually it's pneumonia.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And then 11 months later, she watched her mother, Cando, get in a fight with Corky 2. So there's Orchid 2, there's Orchid, Orchid 2, and Corky 2? Yes, that's right. And obviously there's also Corky and Orchid. I mean, they're as to me. Yeah, so Corky too rammed Candu until she bled to death in front of Orkid. Orkid, obviously, now very traumatized orphan before the age of one. She was then raised by humans instead of orcas and her only friend was Splash, the other orca in the incident.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Eileen Wuornos. This is what we're seeing I actually feel like that they trauma Could be you know, obviously tell me if I'm wrong side stories lpot l at gmail.com. I know you love to do that, but I Have a if it's so intelligent it actually I imagine it would experience more trauma. Yeah, of course it would yeah and her best friend splash he was suffered from epilepsy and Once had a seizure so bad that orchid got underneath him and brought him to the surface and saved his life Whoa cute during the incident splash hit his head on the gate and injured his jaw
Starting point is 00:44:01 SeaWorld then decided to remove all the teeth on his lower jaw, and he was never able to fully close his mouth again. Oh yeah, this is not good. Again, very bad serial killer whale chum. Yeah. SeaWorld denied that Orchid was an aggressive whale. Years later, her animal profile leaked, and she had 12 aggressive incidents over as many years. SeaWorld denying responsibility is a very clear pattern. You know what's interesting is another one, it's like with Travis the Chimp, was that they noticed that Sarah, I believe, was named the lady that owned Travis the Chimp,
Starting point is 00:44:37 is that after Travis killed her friend, so it was her friend who came over because they were finally going to essentially transport Travis out of the house, It was like one and so the friend was the one who got maimed But apparently the owner of Travis was saying but revealed that Travis was getting more and more physically violent to her throughout the entire time before the attack So she was covered in bruises and shit so it seems to be like giving them value and shit oh yes but this is this is interesting because these whales are like like building it's like the aggression builds inside of them but the weird thing they said this about both chimps that were killed after attacking
Starting point is 00:45:20 humans is that after the attack they both have like they had these very confused looks on their faces like what happened Yeah, why did I do what I do? Why did I just do that? Yeah, they don't know they're not You know, it's a fucking moment of rage. You're not supposed to be there anymore. Yeah So the only death no I said there was four deaths until it come killed three The only death of a trainer by an orca that did not take place at SeaWorld was the death of Alexis Martinez by the orca Keto. This unfortunate incident took place during a training session on Christmas Eve 2009 at
Starting point is 00:45:53 Loro Parque in the Canary Islands. This is the one that I had you look up a little bit about. Yeah, this is the story. This dude, again, loved whales. He was a great trainer. He was a great trainer. He was a great trainer. You need a trainer for 14 years He was a trainer. Yes, and he was yet. He was in the Laurel Park A it's so it was like out in the middle of the park is the world's largest indoor penguin exhibition
Starting point is 00:46:14 Oh very nice student largest shark tunnel in Europe, and it's one of the only two parks in Europe to house orcas Hmm, but I still feel like why do I always feel like a European water park cuz it's gotta be kind of not great Yeah, because I think you imagine it being an Eastern Europe. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I imagine like concrete squares Welcome to Procorsk You will beg to see the monkey you will cry and suck to see the puffin. Like I could see it being like very intense and very sad enough.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So Martinez was working maneuvers with Keto and he'd done these a million times before, but he decided to improvise a little. And Keto rammed Martinez and then brought him to the bottom of the pool where Alexis laid motionless So the way it happened is that they were they had done he had been acting weird He'd open acting weird the entire show right they were doing this thing was a training session training thing He'd been acting strangely and so the thing that happened is I guess like part of what they do It's like in between like as they're trying to figure out what to do They're like floating on top of the water and they said the first thing that was weird was that Kido came
Starting point is 00:47:27 around and positioned himself between where like the ladder and Alexis Martinez so they were trying to sort of do and then all of a sudden it like flipped like he was like it was getting really aggressive and it just flipped and used its nose, put and just pushed him all the way down to the bottom of the water. And in that push, crushed him against the bottom of the flight. Literally just crushed him against the pool, came back up for air, went back down, crushed him again and then came back up. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Kido retrieved, retrieved Martinez from the bottom of the pool and brought his unconscious body back to the surface where everyone then tried to help Perform CPR to no avail, you know, and that was what happened. Laurel parquet called it an unfortunate accident Oh, yeah, so he drowned but after the autopsy it was revealed that Alexis did not drown but suffered a very violent death According to the coron corridor in Henry. Oh yeah, his whole chest was crushed. Yes, he had multiple abrasions, a lacerated liver, badly damaged internal organs, a collapse of both lungs, fractures of his ribs and sternum and puncture wounds consistent with the teeth of killer whales.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He was smooshed. That would be the term, which you very rarely see in true crime? You know, it sounds like a car accident. Yeah, only only bad car accident. It's about the size of a car Yeah, the only other smoosh we've ever covered was in the Salem witch trials the weights with it with the trial but Interesting press to death And interesting press to death. Oh good. I can't wait for the movie Also, I find it interesting is that the Canary Islands Ministry of Labor and Immigration they basically said
Starting point is 00:49:18 Well working with orcas that's inherently risky activity and you're asking for it Like essentially they said the only way to prevent Orcas killing humans in captivity is to stop having orcas either in captivity or stop having humans interact with orcas in captivity. You know what? They're right. They're not wrong. So I know what you guys are thinking back at home.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Ed, you're piling on. This is called horrors of SeaWorld. This happened in the Canary Islands, at Laurel Parquet off the coast of Morocco, you know? SeaWorld has nothing to do with this. But the man leading the training exercise was Brian Rokeach, who was actually a trainer from SeaWorld San Diego on loan to teach them how to train the orcas. And Keto was one of four orcas on loan from SeaWorld, so Keto, in fact, had a list of
Starting point is 00:50:10 incidents involving trainers back in SeaWorld in America. I find this. It's like priests. It's like they're moving them around. I do also find it interesting that the ones that go on to actually kill people have a track record Yeah of hurting trainers over and over again. Yeah, the traumatized. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's crazy They and they hide the fucking incident
Starting point is 00:50:32 I just cuz also cuz they don't want to talk because I feel like that's really the giant glaring red flag Which is it's not a one. They also can't say it's a one-off incident Yeah, you can't say oh we freaked out like like incident. They can't say, oh, we freaked out. Like Roy, Siegfried and Roy, when he got attacked by the tiger, he was trying to say, the way he tried to keep, what was that, I think it was like, Monte Carlo, I forget the name of the dog, I think it was the tiger. I don't remember its name. But he, when he was dragged off stage.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I think now it's called Rug? Yeah. When he was dragged off stage, yeah When it was when he was dragged off stage, so he was named like Monteclair So we got dragged across the stage and Roy tried to explain it as he's like the problem is is that during the attack Roy had a stroke and so he was trying to say I had a stroke The cat was trying to save me and everyone's like no They're all like cuz he smacked the tiger in the face. That was what happened He smacked him in the face after he did something wrong and the tiger grabbed him by the neck I never knew this it was on Roy's birthday. It was
Starting point is 00:51:38 59th birthday and they'll never say they kissed Frieden Roy they died pretty close to each other. Yes, they did because he died at kovat in the end, right? That's what got him in the end the biggest tiger of all So, of course with Alex Martinez's death see world denied any responsibility This was still before the fourth and most famous victim Don Branchow And she would be the third and final victim of Tillicum now Don Was not like the other trainers at SeaWorld Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:52:14 She wanted to be a Shamu performer since she was a child and stopped at nothing to achieve that goal a lot of people Considered her one of the best if not the best SeaWorld orca trainer there was damn She was even featured on their billboards alongside Tilikum if you were at SeaWorld Orlando or even picked up a brochure you probably saw her until they come together now February 24th 2010 was the last day of Don Brandt shows life. It's like a it's like a spouse killing. It's like a husband killing a wife Yeah, really they were truly in love with each other. Yeah. Yeah She had just finished a successful dine with Shamu lunchtime show when the attack happened
Starting point is 00:52:56 She was in the middle of a relationship session with telecom when he decided to end theirs What's a relationship session? What does that mean? I mean, just basically like. A date? You know, just like, kinda like, putting your arms up and he puts his arms up and it's just like, you're just kinda like hanging out with it. Okay. Making sure, and people kinda watch,
Starting point is 00:53:15 like the VIP people kinda watch you do it and stuff like that. Yeah, but forming a bond. It's like the show after the show, kinda, but yeah, they are forming a bond and they are in constant contact with these whales yeah they're hanging out with them all the entire time they're at work and they're playing with them at all times there's a they you know that's the thing is like the orcas are very active even though
Starting point is 00:53:36 they're in a tiny prison yeah you know and so but they are better be yes well they have to be if they're gonna perform yeah, yeah, it'd be smart enough to you know Not kill everybody. I mean you put me in a solitary confinement cell. I'm gonna be pretty active in there Much like in chimp crazy, you know that um after this incident they put Tilikum in solitary confinement for a year In a small pool not much bigger than this body Terry confinement for a year in a small pool, not much bigger than this body. Um, yeah. So they had their relationship session. Yeah. And Tilikum grabbed her by the arm or ponytail, depending on who you talk to. C-Roll claims that she was dragged in the pool by her ponytail and it was her
Starting point is 00:54:16 fault because she had a ponytail and it seemed appealing to Tilikum. Even though that's how she wore her hair on most days. There's footage from a guest just seconds before the attack, almost if Tilikum was waiting for the camera to be turned off. They call it the Millennial Pause. Guest Suzanne Connell witnessed the attack and screamed, he took her down, he took her down. Below, because below in the tanks they have like giant windows where you can go look underneath
Starting point is 00:54:46 There was a viewing window where 30 guests were eagerly waiting for a photo opportunity with telecom I mean sit there and telecom would show up behind you and like nod its head and you get a picture and shit like That whoa the best fucking picture ever do that be fucking metal is out when telecom arrived He had Don Brand show in his mouth. Whoa Fucking metal is out when till it come arrived. He had Don Brand show in his mouth Telecom then rammed her head at the bottom of the pool dragged her body and then held her there until she briefly broke free Guests watched this several guests saw her surface and try to get to the edge, but till it come came back for more This is serious again. It's like if a serial killer was doing kills on live stream. Yeah came back for more. This is serious.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Again, it's like if a serial killer was doing kills on live stream. At this point, more than two dozen SeaWorld employees tried to come to her aid, putting out a net, other slapping the water with their hands. It's called the cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha. Come here, come here. That's literally all they can do. They go, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Yeah, they were doing whatever they could to get the fucking things attention.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Because they can't all go, they don't have the big knives on Giant poles like they do in Japan or in Iceland Because that would also I wonder what that would do if that's how they handled it Imagine it would immediately kill it. Yeah. Yeah instead of waiting a long time Till it comes most dangerous game was not going to end yet. He circled the pool with Dawn in his mouth. He drove her to the bottom again, and her body again drifted to the top. She was no longer moving.
Starting point is 00:56:14 He then circled around and rammed her for a third time at full speed. He held her body captive for over half an hour. Eventually, the staff were able to lure him into a medical pool and cover him with a net. Don's body, still in his mouth, confused and angry, he shook her like a dog with its toy. Ten more minutes passed before they finally got her body out of his mouth. After they retrieved her body, her arm was detached and still in
Starting point is 00:56:43 his mouth, and her ponytail had been scalped from her head and was floating in another pool Christ dude, what do you think? Is there any sort of wondering like what goes through their heads during a moment like that? Is it just because they are giant wild animals and they flip out and you're just it's also a game Game like you know they play they could do that sort of RAM games. Is that what they do with other Orcas? It seems like they didn't know that they were doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 No, yeah, it does seem like. And then afterwards, it knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was depressed. Whoa. Yeah. Jeffrey Dahmer. They tried to bring Dawn back to life
Starting point is 00:57:25 But the event was too violent and she passed away there next to the tank You may remember the famous image on the news of her body with a blanket over her and Tilikum in his tank next to her crying Possibly not sure what he had done. Yeah, I mean the only way you would know if he had actually purposely done it if he was posing like hard style You had actually purposely done it if he was posing like hard style Everything changed after that obviously such a public violent death of one of the best trainers in front of a small crowd of people Got OSHA's attention. Oh, yeah. Yeah the occupational safety and health administration Yeah, they sued see world in defense of the trainers and dawn But as we know the Shamu shows continue to this day.
Starting point is 00:58:05 That wasn't even Tilikum's final show. Holy shit! He kept performing for six years, along his grandson. Holy shit, now it's R. Kelly. Yeah. Oh my God, he just kept doing it? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:58:19 SeaWorld still claims that Don's death was her fault, and that working conditions were and are safe for all employees. After the movie Blackfish came out and won an Oscar, SeaWorld took a major hit. They now have roller coasters and other theme park fare to win back guests. Yeah, and it's like a shitty version of a, it's not, SeaWorld's bad. Now SeaWorld has Discovery Cove, a water park for humans. Turns out they're not good at that either, because three people lost their lives there this year.
Starting point is 00:58:49 The most recent was last week. Oh my god. How? Drowning! Yeah man! They're all found unresponsive in wave pools and shit. Oh god. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:01 So January 6th 2017 Tilikum to the come arrived on the steps of the White House Going through a window January 6 2017 Tilikum's trouble life came to an end when he died as many captive whales do from bacterial pneumonia They just I had hands I put my heart put bum around the throat of the world And I'd strangle them to death That's his quote from his last work
Starting point is 00:59:47 They disposed of Tilikum's body like they do all other whales, which I learned about from an unnamed source who contacted me after the first episode. Yeah, because I have no idea how they do this. Because first of all, because it's like they can't feed them to the other animals. So he was moved by crane to the back of house zoological area where the vets conducted a necropsy. Is that how you say that, Marcus?
Starting point is 01:00:07 Necropsy, yeah, that's good enough. They conducted a necropsy which can last for hours. Then the whale is cut up into 45 pound pieces and placed in stericycle containers. That would be about 260 bins for telecom. Hey, you like whales? You want to make 45 of them? Hey, come on out. Oh, I heard you like whales? You want to make 45 of them? Hey, come on out. Oh, I heard you like whales.
Starting point is 01:00:25 You have chainsaws? If the whale dies in the afternoon, the people conducting the cropsy and disposal work all night. The next day, a stericycle truck picks up the bins to incinerate. It's a very messy process that would put the Gainesville Ripper to shame. Oh yeah, buddy, because it's the... Just covered in whale blubber. Oh, yeah, buddy was that because it's the Just covered in whale blubber. Yeah, then put in the bins. Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:54 We're gonna need to sweep up in here chopping them up into cubes and chunks Yeah, man And then she was she said that sometimes she would show up to work to them in the morning and see that the fridge was Full of like bins and like oh something big died last night that the fridge was full of like bins and like, oh, something big died last night. You know, like. You know, like. Can you imagine if they did this at Disney World with the character actors?
Starting point is 01:01:11 I mean, they'd probably do it at the Animal Kingdom, probably. Most zoos have incinerators and stuff like that is another thing I learned. Today, Sea World the Aquarium is a much better organization. They are more than regularly inspected by multiple organizations,
Starting point is 01:01:26 like the AZA, the American Zoo Association, OSHA, USDA, Humane Society, US Fish and Wildlife, and PETA is even a shareholder so they can have a vote in board meetings. It's almost like they have to. But hey, I'll take it. SeaWorld often rehabilitates animals like sea turtles and sea lions, etc. and they release
Starting point is 01:01:47 them back into the wild. The people who work there truly do care for animals, but is it enough good grace to make us forget about the past? Think about like, I'm going to bring up Chimp Crazy again just because in the middle of watching it, that crazy woman Tanya is always only first there Because of how much she loved those goddamn chimps Yeah, she loved them even though she had no fucking idea what she was doing. No taking care of giving them happy meals But she was the chip you ordered chocolate shakes for the fucking chair
Starting point is 01:02:19 Pouring the milkshakes into the chimps mouths was just like one of the wildest scenes I've seen in a minute And I was just but but it's hard because it was like when my mom would feed Gracie May Friday exam which is the dog in the morning dude that I brought up when we were watching that documentary I brought up Gracie May to Carolina. I was like this is exactly what Henry's mom did to their fucking dog It's called toxic love. It's this thing where she does not know that her love is killing the animal Yeah, just cuz he likes Happy Meals doesn't mean that he should have them Yeah, fucking Wendy would love to smoke a cigarette
Starting point is 01:02:56 Well as far as SeaWorld goes people still go It's still one of the most successful theme parks in the world and recently I stayed at the hotel next to SeaWorld in San Diego. Oh, so that cuz that's where they had beds your size. Yeah I had the front desk hold my luggage while I ate one of my many meals And when I went to retrieve it the lady at the front desk yelled to the back, get me some more SeaWorld vouchers. And then I asked, do people still go to SeaWorld? And she replied to me, no one cares about that documentary.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Maybe she was right. That's it. And thank you so much. My God. Good Lord. No one cares about that documentary. Wow, you're right. They don't.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I guess they don't. Ed, thank you so much! My god! Good lord. No one cares about that documentary. You're right. They don't. They really don't. Really great work, Eddie. This has been great fun. We definitely stepped outside of our normal territory, but I like that
Starting point is 01:04:00 we brought it with the same vibe. It's the same shit. We're gonna get back to some real human crime It's gonna be murder next week. Yeah murders on the menu murder on the docket. We got a bunch of shit We have to we'll figure that out, but we got a bunch of shit coming up what murder on the docket everything Yeah, we all the docket the future docket. Yeah, I want to do murder next week. No, I want to do more We're doing murder. Okay. Yeah for certain. Yeah, more we're doing murder. Okay. All right. Yeah for certain Yeah, we had been human murder. There you go folks. You heard it here first
Starting point is 01:04:30 Marcus is gonna murder somebody The side stories live show come and check us out we are figuring it out Yeah, and we can't wait and it's tonight. So come on out to the park west Please do and then tomorrow night. We are gonna be I think we have like it's like we sell out time of this recording They release a hundred extra tickets. Yes, we had sold out and then they released another another hundred tickets Go pick them up. We're gonna be in town. This shows our best show yet. It's pretty fucking awesome. It's pretty fucking great We just honed it like fuck in Australia. We can't wait to show to you I will say though. I will have to cut all my breakdancing ray gun jokes Yeah, because the time has passed, but that woman is still dumb
Starting point is 01:05:15 It really was just the perfect time for us to be in Australia I have never experienced yeah, it was cheap, but every single time I did the because it was only for Australia they were so happy they were so happy because it was great because they had ray gun they also had the only Olympian to get arrested for buying cocaine yes and then with and then they suck ill a Chinese meal man died while we were there well we were in Melbourne yeah or Brisbane yeah in Brisbane so hey that's kind of stuff. We bring everywhere we go Know what we're gonna change for Go to patreon.com slash last podcast on the left not only can you see us do this?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Flopping around in on camera you do it there But also you get all bunch of shit you can go you get tickets ahead of time all the kind of stuff go check It out We put a lot of content on there and go to at LP on the left for all social Medias and don't forget to watch side stories on YouTube Yeah, please now please and check us out and check all the other streams that we do out at LPN TV That is switched on TV slash LPN TV and of course go to last podcast on the left.com and click on shows to see all the places we're coming to this year Chicago Boston Los Angeles London and Reykjavik Please come on out and Brooklyn as well gonna be coming to see you this year. So come on out see us alive Okay, I can't wait to perform in Brooklyn. It's been so long I'm gonna have a way to go cuz I haven't performed in Brooklyn since murder fest. Yeah, it's gonna be fun Yeah, I can't wait. Oh, yeah, right. Hell sweet sight. No, no game. Hell telecom
Starting point is 01:06:57 Why no no not telecom? I know I can tell whoever I want. There's plenty of whales We're traumatized and didn't kill their trainers well telecom Well rhymes with hell He's allowed he wrote the script

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