Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 589: Horrors of SeaWorld Part II - Free Tilly
Episode Date: September 13, 2024This week the boys conclude the Horrors of SeaWorld starting with the tragic story of how Tilikum the Whale ended up in the hands of the animal-based theme park, the latter half of his life/career, an...d the controversial deaths of trainers Keltie Lee Byrne and Dawn Brancheau. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes and get exclusive access to bonus content.
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There's no place to escape to.
This is the last time.
On the left.
That's when the cannibalism started.
What was that?
Oh, yeah!
9-11 week is the best time to do a show.
You know, I almost forgot. You know, me too. 11 week is the best time to do a show.
You know, I almost forgot.
You know, me too.
I was like, what is happening this week?
That's the 23rd anniversary.
Why is this cop crying right now?
That was my first question.
And then I was like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Because his lungs are bleeding.
Welcome to Last Podcast on the the left ladies and gentlemen.
We watched the reading of the names this morning.
I'm Marcus Parks.
We do it every 9-11.
With me is Henry Zabrowski.
I taped mine on the VCR and then what I'm going to do is tonight I'm going to go watch
it because some of my favorite names are on there.
There's Ronnie McDungle.
Have you seen some of these?
They're great. Have you seen some of these? They're great.
Have you seen Sarah Brefs?
Very sad she died on 9-11.
One of my favorite names.
Yeah, I always stick around for Red Pepper
and then around Red Pepper,
there's a woman whose last name is Red Pepper.
Around the time of Red Pepper,
that's when I start to kinda check out a little bit.
That's when you get bored.
Yeah, do they read all the names
or just the people who died in the towers?
Like, do they read the Pentagon names or just the people who died in the towers? All the names.
Do they read the Pentagon names too?
And the United 25 names?
What about the pilots?
I can't remember.
And so we're not even naming the Al Qaeda guys that are even the reason for the season?
You mean to tell me of all of the names that are not on that list, those guys aren't there?
They did die.
You know?
In the towers.
None of that plaque wouldn't be there if it wasn't for them. Yeah, it's true. It's like when they skipped
Gilbert on the Oscar Memorial. Oh don't even get me started
Not the horrors of 9-eleven no not yet, but the horrors of the underwater world. We're not in the sky
We're in the sea or at least an approximation of the sea at SeaWorld and bring us back into it
Ah yes, it was lovely. You know it was a great response
You know it felt it felt really good a lot of messages a couple people who worked for SeaWorld reached out to me
Yeah, they're trying to cover their fucking things there was I will say one of them was like it's great over here
But yeah, no, it's uh, it was a thank you everyone who sent me the lovely messages. I really appreciate it
It's been interesting you get You did some detective work this week.
Well, this is a week that I started with orcas,
killer whales, I did a little bit of research
into one of the deaths that we'll talk about today,
the Alexis Martinez death,
but it is kind of interesting where I slid right
into the world of man-eating tigers.
Yeah.
Have you done any reading about man-eating tigers?
Yeah, dude, it's fucking nuts.
We really need to do even a more extensive series
on man-eating tigers.
This is great, I feel like I'm inspiring you.
Yes, and for those of you that don't know,
so this is all throughout, it's some Asian countries,
but a lot of it's in India.
And what you're seeing is, so a man-eating tiger
is what, by seeing is so a man-eating tiger is what by definition is
a tiger that has shifted its entire diet to eating only humans and hunting
systematically only humans yeah and so it's happened time and time again like
there was one that like they're all like I guess what was that one movie with
Val Kilmer? Oh the ghost of the darkness, but that's lions
Yes, and so it's not the same but the stuff like the Champawat Tiger this one tiger killed at least
200 people I love these stories
Yeah, this is this one and but what's interesting is that they they found out is that it's because in rural India
They have a relationship with the wildlife
or that they live in that is extremely different
than any other culture.
Like they are totally fine with living
with some of the world's deadliest animals
in their backyard.
They have kind of a symbiosis with them.
And they sort of-
Once you get used to it, you know.
You got to.
They're just used to it.
But the problem is, is that they're're getting because of the population increases in India, they're
going further and further into the Tigers territory. So they get super territorial.
But what the main thing is, is that they become man eating tigers mostly because like a tiger
will eat a person every once in a while. Yeah. But normally it's out of confusion. They say
the one thing that like the tigers do is that they'll stalk the guys picking rice, right? As they go down, as they crouch down. Why is that baby ox on two legs? Yes, but what the thing is, is that apparently tigers,
they get real close as they're under in the grass. You don't even know they're there. No, but then when they stand up, when humans stand up, tigers become disinterested, because largely they are afraid of human beings.
They don't want to be anywhere near humans.
Because humans have killed millions of them.
Yeah, we're dangerous monkeys.
We're dangerous, highly dangerous.
But when tigers get injured and they don't get fixed,
they said what happened with the Champawat tiger,
first of all, as they realized that,
is that she had a upper and lower canine teeth
on the right side of the mouth that were completely broken. The that she had a upper and lower canine teeth on
the right side of the mouth that were completely broken.
The upper one and a half, the lower one was right down to the bone.
And when they realized, it's like, oh, tigers that normally switch to full man-eating have
hurt themselves in a way that they can no longer go after their own prey.
So now they are going after the highly defenseless pink monkeys that we are and they realize they could do it one by one but then they
Start to learn they'd like tigers are so good at hunting
They start to recognize when a man is armed or not armed
They start to recognize whether or not he's alone or not because they only go after single humans
Because like that's the thing they're opportunity hunters and they try to stay come at you with surprise
It's like it's crazy. I mean I ain't trying to fight more than one person. No, I ain't either
But what I've been getting into is like, you know, I mean, I know everyone's watching chimp crazy right now
All this new Travis the champ footage that I've never seen crazy
Yeah, Travis the chip of course brutal the chimp that you know rip the woman's face off
You know and almost killed her chewed her hands off. Yeah chewed her hands up because man. That's what they do
That's what the chimps do they go for the face they go for the hand anything that you can attack them with they remove
Yeah
I but the saddest one was when that showed that Travis after he got shot
Multiple times by the cop and then he ran back to his enclosure. You just sort of see his hand
That's like slowly gripping the weird little dungeon prison that he's been left in it's extremely sad
Yeah, but can I just say we'll get back to this but with chimp crazy?
What do we have to do to make sure Amber doesn't become Tanya?
She doesn't become Tanya
But you know what's interesting with the man-eating tigers is that not only is so there's a issue with handling them as one is
They try to find the man-eating tiger alone isolate the man-eating tiger, but it's difficult to do. It's because you have to find out there's a difference between if a tiger eats a human accidentally
versus has been only eating humans, and they have to figure out how to prove that.
So largely what all these people say is we kill the offending tiger, and then we leave the other tigers alone.
We're trying to keep them from mass killing all of the tigers, which they at this point have yet to do.
mass killing all of the tigers, which they at this point have yet to do. But the next issue is that their environmentalists wonder, they protest every single time they kill a tiger, whether or not it's
man-eating tiger or not, because they're like, we need every tiger that we can get. So that's
interesting. But number three, the worst seems to be the side effects, of course, with the deadliest
animal of all, humankindankind because sometimes man-eating
tiger goes berserk.
Nobody knows what to do.
This tiger seems to kind of be they don't know how to handle it.
So there's people within the town have to debate.
Do we kill it or not?
Do we go after it or not?
Blah blah blah turns into an angry mob.
All of a sudden the town is in flames. Like they literally, mobs of men getting drunk
and mass sexual assaults, mass fires, all, it's bad.
It's crazy.
I don't know why that happens over tigers.
Tiger riots.
Yeah, tiger riots, but that's my research project.
Thank you for that actually, that was,
it's a good palate cleanser.
Isn't it? Project thank you for that actually that was it's good. It's a good palate cleanser
All right, so I'm gonna take you to
November 1983 Iceland before Tillicum
Killed three people in captivity. He was a chill ass orca
Eating fish and he loved playing with his family
I mean, but we don't know how much he loved being with his family
Well, we knew that he cried when they stole him from them
How about that?
I'll get to it in a second some big tears
One day while frolicking in the waters off of whoo-hoo, please try to pronounce this
Barrowfoot or dirt. I'm gonna look at you know what I know I know how to pronounce.. Barrowfoo-der? I'm gonna look it up. You know what?
I know how to pronounce it.
Can you do it? Yeah. Barrowfoo-der.
Yes. So one day... I mean that's the best that I can do.
But yeah. One day, while
frolicking in the waters off of
Barrowfoo-der. His family
was rounded up by thugs
and he was kidnapped from his home.
Whalenapped.
Yes. Caff-napped. Yes. Yes.
Calf-napped, I guess.
The way this happened to Tilikum
was the hunters trapped the entire pot of orcas in a net,
and then they pick out the smallest of the orcas,
pull them out of the water with a sling,
which this time was Tilikum.
Sure.
Tilikum was then lifted into a boat, placed in a tub a little larger than his body, half
filled with sea water.
The rest of his family are released because they're too large to get on the boat.
They want to get the calves.
It's an easier transport.
This is extremely traumatizing for not only Tilikum, but his entire pod.
I did see some writings talking about
the emotional sensitivity of orcas and whales,
and it is, they are extremely smart.
Oh yeah.
They are like, they are.
No, they straight up cry.
They have emotions.
Yeah.
And they have, yeah, they have connections.
They make intellectual connections.
Remember we said, biggest brain of all the animals.
Yeah, biggest cock
Tilikum was on the boat and he could hear the screams of his family for hours as they chased the boat away
His mother of course chased the longest she followed for miles until she was too tired to continue
before this point
Tilikum This is like you said this
is like how a charles manson got started
fucking souping it up here before this
point till a common never been chum
killer chum before this till a common
never been more than a few feet from his
mother orcas have incredible hearing and the silence of not hearing his mother anymore was for sure
Defining and he does this help
You remember
side note You remember? Side note, when orcas are bred in captivity, the calf is taken from the mother.
The mother calls and clicks for months in search for her lost calf.
As time goes by, the calls get louder because she's trying to send calls miles away.
But of course, they are not heard miles away because she's in a tank.
I imagine Tilikum's mother did the same thing off of Iceland. All Tilikum could hear all Tilikum could hear on the boat
was the crassness of sailors and the ship's engines.
You're sad at them going like, I come to the S.R.I.T. and then I flipped her out when it was meat
He was then moved from the ship to a flatbed truck driven to a concrete structure in a shed
Moved from the ship to a flatbed truck driven to a concrete structure in a shed
In this tiny shed are two other female orcas. Well, this is like the beginning of a fucking whale porn I you've you want to look at it that way sure
These orcas a child
He's listed to come on yeah, but in York a years they can that's when they there that would make them for
These orcas start to scream at him in a language. He does not understand
They are confused by him and hate him because they were also recently kidnapped from their respective pods
He's bigger than both of them and takes up a lot of room in the shed that is already
Too small for the two of them and takes up a lot of room in the shed that is already too small for the two of them
He spends a year in his cell
One day he's removed and put in the back of a truck driven to an airport put into a cargo plane and flown over to
Victoria british columbia in canada to an amusement park named sea land of the pacific
This was thousands of miles from iceland obviously this concept was lost on him. Yeah, he doesn't know maps
Yeah, it's like the Charlie Manson
Institutionalized fucked up in the fucking system and then put in amongst the people you expect me to get better in here
Wait till he gets at a point where he draws a swastika on his forehead
But quickly soon afterwards I'd be like
How do you learn to do that?
There's no fucking no sharp angles in the ocean find out there's an employee at SeaWorld that's just been reading a mine comp every night
I've been a doodling.
The fish are delicious.
So he was placed in a containment area that's in the ocean surrounded by nets and docks.
It wasn't like an actual pool or anything.
But it was netted off and the people observed him from the docks during the day, flashing
cameras and yelling,
oh, that's a big fish, eh?
Very good Canadian.
Thank you.
It wasn't, it sounded British.
I'm trying to help.
I'm not trying to roast here.
Oh, that's a big fish, eh?
That's better, right?
Oh, that's a big fish there, eh?
Oh, yeah, right there.
But I tell you what, I seen a bigger fish.
And let me tell you, I'd seen a bigger fish and let me tell you I'd see that
Oh when I was over in Westminster, I saw a fish twice that size
That's the thing though is that you're operating under the principle that that there's a fish and it's actually not a fish mister
That's a mammal. Thank you fucking Canadian. Give me a goddamn lecture
Eventually they move till they come to a larger enclosure with two other killer whales, Nutka and Haida.
They're much smaller but also not fond of him because he's so big and he takes up a
lot of space and they're already cramped in closure.
I just saw a wire.
I'm sorry.
That is like his bane.
It's consistently, like through his entire life. He was bullied by smaller whales that could maneuver around him and like kick his ass
Oh, that's awful. Yeah, they begin to bully sometimes the big deserve it
We'll take it to the parking lot in a little bit
They begin to bully him and beat up on them
They ram him rake their teeth on him and during the evening the three of them are locked up in an even smaller
Indoor tank adjacent to the pool. So you saying them they were mean is interesting because I don't know why
Obviously, this is my issue. Uh-huh, but when I see the names newt cut and hide up like I just imagine like
nutka and Haida like I just imagine like
Two orcas with big huge tits and big steins of beer and big blonde hair and a plate of sausages and stuff But maybe that's just cuz it's just me. Yeah. No, I don't think it really holds water at all
Nine the the tank held water
The owner of sea land didn't want them overnight and the
the owner of seal and didn't want him overnight and the
And held in by just the nets and fear they would chew through it and escape So at night they put him in the small pool
The three of them would be locked in the module for 14 hours at a time from 5 p.m. To 7 a.m
every god damn day
Most nights newt good and the hide a attack tele. If he didn't get lacerated from their teeth, it would be the metal walls of the tank.
There was hardly enough room for the orcas to turn around in the tanks.
One night, Nuukka attacked Tilikum so intensely that she hurt herself when she rammed her
head into him.
She bounced her body off of the side of the tank and started bleeding out of her blowhole.
Tilikum obviously became depressed.
His dorsal fin slouched over and he was constantly covered in open wounds.
And during the day he was forced to perform for dead fish.
He very much would prefer to hunt and catch his own fish
like he did in the wild.
Of course!
My God.
If he refused to go into his nighttime enclosure
with the other prisoner whales that beat him up,
the humans would withhold food from him.
In fact, they would often withhold food from him
regardless to ensure that he would do tricks
for the little food that they gave him.
I always think that so many people like to check big people. Oh my god to kind of my whole childhood
Oh, yes, I'd have to fight all the goddamn time because I was the biggest guy around
But there's something about this where it's like this idea
Humans are very interesting this idea that you look at this
3,000 pound killing machine 12,000, you know, you know me
Look at this three thousand pound killing machine twelve thousand, you know, you know, I mean
And your mind is I can handle that thing. This is the first thing you thought being like, yeah, let's figure that out Yeah, he's gonna be begging for fish. Yeah, it's back get two more. Let's get people to come look at him
Yeah, be meanwhile like I feel like it's like the out with bringing back to Chimp Crazy
Every single moment of Chimp Crazy
When they wouldn't the one where was like they were all watching TV
they're watching that they were with the chimp that was watching the chimp from
2001 on the screen and this chimp is just going like
And they're all like laughing and shit and then like they showed old footage of them handling attending a toddler to one of the
They showed old footage of them handing a toddler to one of the champs and they're all laughing.
Oh my god, it drove me insane.
I'm just sitting there like, I'm just waiting for it to just rip it to pieces.
Yeah, you know it's not going to, but still it's in your head.
It's this close.
I know man, there was that one footage of him like, brought the teenager over to play
and then he starts fucking like going nuts on him and starts grabbing at his arm.
They're like, okay, okay, okay, this is really scary, very suddenly. And he starts fucking like go nuts on him and starts grabbing at his arm look because like
But they all just think they can reason with this animal No, it's not it's not a fucking person
No, I feel like this is like the perfect week to do this episode with all the chimp crazy stuff
Yeah, yeah, it really is man should it that's the thing we were talking about this at home. Man made two categories of animal for that.
Dogs and cats.
We have all agreed that we have, we made dogs and cats for this purpose.
If we just, I completely agree, if we spent generations mutilating cats and dogs to make
them great, to be kept inside of the the house if it wasn't for the centuries of
Eugenics dog eugenics call me would not be able to exist
No, you know, so but that's dogs were domesticated thousands of years before the wheel
Yes, they were a part. They've been a part of the human story ever since we literally have had communities
So they are but they are made to be with us now at this point. Chimps are not.
No.
Well, anyway, Nuke can hide over in heat.
Oh, all right.
I think my vision is coming a little closer.
And Tilikum, he's still a pup at this point,
but they dominated him and then made him have sex with him
as them against his will.
So he was raped?
Tilikum was raped.
Whoa!
In the beginning, yes.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
In Tilikum, he is Panzram.
Yeah, and also the thing to know about Tilikum
when he starts becoming a major part of the breeding program
is he was known to be a very sensitive lover.
Hmm.
Yeah. So Orcas had different styles of love making yeah, can Duke was a bastard
Wow
So what do you mean by like like it licked the clip?
No, he would like he would like follow them nicely and like and like rub the side of them
And like the orca would like look back
Yeah, it was very it was very sensual when they can Duke would just like ram himself into the the poor little orca that he was
Impregnating. Wow, great. Yeah. Yeah, I asked you died and till the comb lived. Hey, that's how it goes
So February 20th 1991 things took a much darker turn when Tillicum killed 20-year-old
student and animal trainer Kelty Leigh-Byrne.
What happened was, between shows, Kelty slipped and one leg fell on the water, when that
was all Tillicum needed.
He grabbed her foot and dragged her into the pool.
She broke loose for a moment, but there was no ladder out and Tillicum came back grabbed her again and
Dragged her to the center of the pool
He dragged her to the bottom of the pool and held her there. The water was cold member up in Canada
Witnesses said Kelty screened for help as Tillicum let her up for air briefly
But was now a game for Tillicum fellow employees tried to free her with a long hook
But Tillicum kept her away. They threw a life preserver and he kept her away from that as well
Staff was doing everything they could to distract Tillicum to release her but he would not there's something about like this
I was reading one about one of the tiger attacks that had happened in captivity
And also the the royal the Siegfried and Roy attack yes the Roy attack was that was in front of an audience of people that's interesting
because they tried to take but it's imagining all of the people desperately
like this giant animal is playing with a dead body in a pool like you hit it with
a baseball bat it won't affect yes man but they're literally like shaking
keys at it like it's crazy
I like a lot of water the water and they're shaking keys at it
They got a little fish and they go like stop it stop it now
Please stop it and then all they that's all they could do because it's a
12,000 pound killing machine. Yeah until it come he brought her under again and again
Letting her get brief gulps of air. The other whales
began to join in at this point. He was playing with her, balancing her while she
cried on his nose.
Whoa, so she was alive for that long?
She's still alive.
Oh, she's still alive?
Yes, she's still alive at this point. And then Nutka and
Haida began tossing her back and forth as well. While she was fighting for air
and survival, finally Tilikum took her underwater to her ultimate demise. Oh! The whole event
lasted for 15 minutes. Oh, I thought you meant she survived altogether. No, she's
dead. Yeah. Yeah, she's very much dead. I assume. Yeah. Yeah, but now... 15 minutes. Yeah, just getting beach balled back and forth by a bunch of whales like three orcas
After she was dead
Tilikum refused to give her back and he continued to play with her dead body in front of the staff and onlookers Ted Bundy
Finally they were able to retrieve her body with a weighted net when they brought her onto the dock
She had been stripped naked and was covered in bruises
and lacerations.
Sea Land of the Pacific was not equipped to house these animals and ended up selling all
three to SeaWorld.
What was Sea Land of the Pacific equipped to house?
Penguins.
Seals.
Yeah.
It was basically like on the water.
Yeah.
It was just like docks and shit and they had nets and it was very simple place.
So this is, it's like the sea equivalent of like a roadside zoo.
Kind of.
It seemed like it.
Yeah.
And they were trying to, but at least they knew enough to get rid of the whales after
this.
Okay.
In captivity, Tilikom would go on to be Sea World's best stud, having 21 offspring in
captivity and 11 died before he did, and 7 of them are still performing to this day.
Whoa!
The rest were sent to other parks.
He's Joe Jackson!
No, Tilikum, like, when you come in another whale, like, do you think that he made other
more agitable?
Like agitated bull whales I guess not because really very much so yeah, because he is
An aggressive whale yeah, and it is in his blood
And he's also mixing his aggressive whale blood with other whales from all over the world other different types of whales remember
We have residents and you know and so there's there other different types of whales. Remember we have residents,
and so there's different types of whales,
transient whales.
So, and he was a resident,
so if he mixed with a transient,
and then all of a sudden you got a whale
that eats mammals that's aggressive.
Yeah, man, we gotta be careful
because that's how we got Chet Hanks.
God knows where she caught that dick, man.
For the record.
You got two of your favorite references in under like two minutes.
Joe Jackson and Chet Hanks.
That's my dream blunt rotation.
Joe Jackson, Chet Hanks, Bobby Bonilla.
Bobby Bonilla, JoJo Siwa and Elrond Hubbard.
Yeah man, that's your group.
That's my fucking group.
That's my boys.
Oh and what's his name, the little guy?
Chris Chan? No?
Chucky
Chucky's Gonna be my employee
But you know before we go in for the record as we stated sea world has since ended their breeding program and
Once these whales pass or become too old to perform they have pledged to end their orca shows
entirely.
So after this last batch.
They're not doing it ever again.
And also it's important to note that the trainers no longer get in the water with the orcas
and that has happened since 2012.
Well yeah, it sounds like that's the majority of the main issues here.
Yes, yeah.
So now the orca show is like there's a trainer on the side and they do tricks and it's more of
like a
presentation and they teach you about orcas. Good! Yeah, which is better for sure.
One thing we haven't really talked about much yet and that's the trainers.
From what I can tell most of the trainers are not marine biologists or scientists, but performers that love whales.
A lot got into the job because it seemed like the coolest job in the world
It does especially back in the 80s and 90s. Oh, yeah
You know, I thought I was enamored by it. Oh, yeah, it was like nothing
I remember going to see one of these shows and see world and it's just like, you know, it's hot babes
It's cool guys. Yeah, no like surfing on the whales
Awesome. Yeah, but it's the same people that are like also working at like
the Beetlejuice stage show. Now we know this. Yeah. At the time I used to think, well, they
must be real experts. Yeah. But it's not till they all started working there till they really
found out what was going on. Some of the trainers say that the only reason they stay working there is because they are
scared of what will happen if they leave.
That makes total sense.
Yeah, because-
They built a relationship with the animal and they don't still want somebody- what
if somebody comes in who's a total shithead?
Exactly.
So they love these animals.
Oh yes.
The emotional attachment between a whale and his trainer is stronger, if not stronger,
than we have with our cats and dogs well dogs for sure
I don't know I refuse to believe that I mean I mean imagine if carmy was an orca
How much more you would love her yeah?
Then I'd have like a pool that I could throw my enemies into yes, but they don't need humans. They just kill them. That's the fun
My enemies into yes, but they don't need humans. They just kill them. That's the fun
Then I fish it out Then I feed the rest of the neighborhood. Honestly, I feel like it'd be a good way to for me to help feed the poor
Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah
people cannibalism
Also, you don't just become an orca trainer when you're hired
At first they start you off working with like seals and dolphins and false killer whales
and stuff like that.
And then once you're excelling there, they will move you into the bigger pool with the
bigger animals.
At least it's not just been like, well, she was good at the tilter world, so let's toss
her a cake up.
I think she's ready to handle.
She slung some corn dogs pretty fast
One ex-trainer Carol Ray remembered applying for a tour guide position and on her resume
she put she had a psych degree a
specialization in behavioral activities a scuba certification
Theater training and was a competitive swimmer. Holy shit. Yeah, so they tried to make her an animal trainer instead of a tour guide But she declined she just wanted a job for the summer
When she was a tour guide she was taught how to deal with problem guests who asked challenging questions
Yeah, yeah, she was always me as a kid. Yeah
She was told to avoid buzzwords and phrases like animals weren't captured but acquired. Yeah
Oh, you don't know how they got here
Yeah, the animals weren't in cages or tanks but enclosures and aquariums
Captivity was called controlled environment and animals never had sex they engaged in courtship behavior
No animals fuck. I know but
Know
If someone asked where an animal was that had died there were simply said told to say
It said of kill they just like actually it's in the tuna sandwiches in the panini press
Instead of kill they say the animal ate
And they didn't ever want to say the word evolved because they were a Christian organization So SeaWorld had them use the word adapt
So much more now no it was
For me to dislike SeaWorld more you remember when Jesus was on the cross and he's like capture the whale
Seas and bring back all of the great
Go out under the seas and bring back all of the greatest fish and put on shows for the people in town. Jesus, yeah. Jesus sounds good to me. Tommy, uh, got a bit of a question.
Uh, what's a whale?
Ah, but you do not remember the parable of Jonah.
Honestly, no. No, that was in the OG book.
I was walking on top of the water and I looked down.
None of this shit's been written yet, dude.
None of this shit's even been drafted yet, man.
I believe Jordan the Whale's Old Testament.
But I think Old Testament, do they have the Old Testament
during Jesus's time?
Yeah.
I mean, it was mostly talks and stories, I imagine.
I think at the time that it was just the testament.
Yeah.
Well, eventually SeaWorld convinced Carol
to take a trainer position because they
had to move some of the regulars to Texas.
And then they started her with the Dolphins and the Belugas
and the false killer whales.
And she was soon promoted to Shamu Stadium.
She got a whole new batch of glossary terms
once she moved there. The first thing she was told was to tell people was the Orca's only eight
restaurant quality fish. Nothing but the best fish. Absolutely excellent fish.
Top quality. You would get it anywhere at the Shoe City. You gotta love this fish.
The best fish. Everybody knows it. They're all talking about it.
Meanwhile, when the fish arrived in boxes they had
not for human consumption stamped on the side of it.
But that was just cause that restaurant quality fish was for the whales.
To make sure the humans didn't steal it.
It said in really small words at the very bottom, jealous.
So shambos, they eat over 200 pounds of fish a day at SeaWorld this includes smelt herring
Mackerel salmon is a treat and other fish and this is much like Joe Biden where there's multiple of them, right?
Some are taller shorter
They've never disclosed how much they spend on the fish, but it may be less than you think
because they charge tourists money to buy fish from them to feed the dolphins and stingrays
and dorkets.
So it's a pretty good business model.
Yeah, I was at this place, I was at this gator reserve, which is probably, they also probably
had to change their name at some point when I was in st. Augustine Yeah, it was really fun, but there was like an area where you go and the Gators are obviously
Like way overfed. Yeah. Yeah, so that because they're five feet from you
So I'm pretty certain they just feed him and feed him and feed him and feed him
But a part of it was that you could go and spend you put a quarter in and you get a handful
Alligator feed and then you just fucking- Was it just pellets?
It was just pellets, but it's just like,
you're just watching countless children
just literally pelt an alligator's side of its head
by throwing feed, just throwing,
and they're like, feed the gator again!
Feed it again, Troy Joseph!
And it's just like, just going like,
ah, ah, just throwing feed at its its fate and is bouncing off of this ancient
killing
And they're just kind of how I chomping it all up and there's so swollen and fat
Dude when I was a kid my parents took me on vacation to pigeon Forge and there was this one t-shirt shop that had on
The sign outside it said see and feed five live bears and I was like I want to go there
That's where I need to go. So I go and they like I bought like a
Cup of sliced up apples and then you're just on the second story
Like walking on a catwalk above five bears that are just sleeping on concrete below you and you just throw the apples
At the bears and they like slowly walk over and eat it all sadly and shit
And you're like go so yeah, I will say I went to pigeon Forge last year, and it was no longer there. Oh good. Yes
Now those Bears working in the restaurant
Paint them black and white put them in a pool
Our extensive collection of these new marine bears.
They're borkus?
They're not drowning, they're drowning.
Well, one of the things that never sat well with Carole Ray was the injury of San Diego
trainer John Silek. That was in November of 1987. You've probably seen footage of this.
If you've seen Blackfish, they show it to you. He was riding an orca named Newtka.
Another orca named Newtka?
This was Newtka too. I believe it was Newtka's daughter, I believe, which probably was Tiluka's daughter I believe which probably was
Tilikum's daughter as well. No yeah out of because he got he got hard he got
hard so he got hard so the wow yeah under our common presidency that baby would be Not in Texas. John's... Don't fucking point at me.
I haven't lived in that goddamn state in over 20 years.
We know you're still running it.
So John was riding the Orca and it was during a show and Orky 2 leaped out of the water and crashed on top of him, pinning him between the two whales. It didn't look that bad on the footage,
but when you think about it, Orky too weighed 12,000 pounds.
Yeah.
And so John Sillick fractured his pelvis, his femur, ribs,
along with other injuries, leaving him permanently
disabled, and as far as I could tell,
is in a wheelchair for life.
Some people say wheelchair for life.
I say I'm in a wheelchair for the fun of it but he have you ever met anybody who's broken their
pelvis no I had there was a girl in high school that was a cheerleader and she
was it was one of those where she was thrown up and they caught her wrong and
it snapped her fucking pelvis and it just looks like the worst possible injury ever. Yeah. Yeah, it's real bad
Cuz you have to be entirely like stabilized. Yeah. No, you're in a body cast. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah
And she had you she was she was very pretty and she was so sweet
But she had to like come in in her body cast to school and it was just like it was hard cuz she was the girl
on the body cast for the rest of the girl so it was a sure just like
sitting in class. It's all like
Very hard for her. Yeah, I'm doing great. That had been very very difficult. Yes
Well, you know what SeaWorld said about the whole thing trainer error
Which would become a pattern for them whenever there was an incident and when Carol inquired for further details with others
The only response consistently was it was trainer error.
Soon, she had an incident of her own
when baby Kalina bit her hand during training.
So after two years, Carol Ray left the job.
I could see that they are putting it on the trainers,
and it's interesting,
because they don't want to put it on the whales,
because then someone would have to come
and do something about the whales.
Exactly, and the whales are their big
Moneymaker where the money it's the logo. Yeah, you know it's fucking they need these things there
Incidents like hers and John's were not the only ones of course there was an incident with
Tamarie Tullison in July of 2002 in San Diego
Tamarie was doing dry work with the two whales orchid and splash
Tamarie was doing dry work with the two whales Orchid and Splash. She was building up a relationship with them, something that she and others had done many
times before.
During this, one of the orcas grabbed her foot and pulled her into the pool.
Both is all on camera.
This was filmed by a guest.
Both Orchid and Splash began to play with her, tossing her back and forth while pulling
her underwater
All while she screamed for help whenever she came up for air another trainer Robin Sheet made a very
Intelligent split second decision that most likely saved Tamarie's life. He knew that Orchid and Splash were juveniles
So he opened the gate to an adjacent pool
Which allowed the more dominant female Orca?
opened the gate to an adjacent pool, which allowed the more dominant female orca, cause soccer into their pool or can splash the Tamariko and she was able to escape with her life,
but not fully intact Tamariz arm was totally broken, but like a bad ass, she was able to
climb out of the pool to save her own life. Here is a picture of Tamarie's arm. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yeah, I feel like yeah, you'd see me burst out of the water like the human torch I mean you see this fucking asshole offering his hand to pull her out
Couldn't imagine like getting like get killed by something with a cute name like splash. Yes, it's ridiculous
It's so it's it's very hard, you know, it's like and you anyway, it's it's when you talk about these, you know
Candu and Corky, you know the cute names of these stories make it
extremely more chilling. It really does
So Orkin was 13 years old. I always think of them porky though. Yeah, you know what it is
You know, it's one of the most chilling sounds in the world
Is that it's like who did it great was with Jordan Peele with Nope where that sound of
the emergencies happened
The audience is freaking out right you're watching people run from the stands, but then the silence of
the room when you sort of see the
aftermath of the dead body floating in the water with the orca but you still hear the
world of wonder
Music playing as you're watching an orca nose of
The mini video games based on like Bioshock infinite and I based on that exact
There's been many video games based on like Bioshock Infinite and all based on that exact
So orchid the whale the one that pulled her in the water we think he could have been orchid or couldn't splash
Was 13 years old when the incident took place and some say was the most intelligent whale at the park
She was also a deeply traumatized individual. I understand that orcas are not humans and vice versa, but Orca was born smack dab in the middle of a Shamu show
in front of an audience of thousands.
It does feel like, like it shouldn't register with the whale.
It shouldn't register with the whale, but it's such an embarrassing, weird thing.
But also there's a part of me that's like, because I'm addicted to the concept of showbiz,
I've been like, that's Vaudeville, baby!
Yeah, that's incredible!
Barnistah!
Yeah.
But this whale, like this orca, the first thing that it experiences when it comes up
from the water is a bunch of fucking monkeys screaming at
Yeah, so orchids parents or
Orchid to all right orchids parents were orky to and can do three days after she was born
Her father orky to passed away from pneumonia and then Jason tank ammonia. Yes
Orchid 2 passed away from pneumonia and an adjacent tank. Pneumonia?
Yes, usually it's pneumonia.
And then 11 months later, she watched her mother, Cando, get in a fight with Corky 2.
So there's Orchid 2, there's Orchid, Orchid 2, and Corky 2?
Yes, that's right.
And obviously there's also Corky and Orchid.
I mean, they're as to me. Yeah, so Corky too rammed Candu until she bled to death in front of Orkid.
Orkid, obviously, now very traumatized orphan before the age of one.
She was then raised by humans instead of orcas and her only friend was Splash, the other
orca in the incident.
Eileen Wuornos.
This is what we're seeing I actually feel like that they trauma
Could be you know, obviously tell me if I'm wrong side stories lpot l at gmail.com. I know you love to do that, but I
Have a if it's so intelligent it actually I imagine it would experience more trauma. Yeah, of course it would yeah and
her best friend splash
he was suffered from epilepsy and
Once had a seizure so bad that orchid got underneath him and brought him to the surface and saved his life
Whoa cute during the incident splash hit his head on the gate and injured his jaw
SeaWorld then decided to remove all the teeth on his lower jaw,
and he was never able to fully close his mouth again.
Oh yeah, this is not good. Again, very bad serial killer whale chum.
Yeah. SeaWorld denied that Orchid was an aggressive whale.
Years later, her animal profile leaked, and she had 12 aggressive incidents over as many years.
SeaWorld denying responsibility is a very clear pattern.
You know what's interesting is another one, it's like with Travis the Chimp,
was that they noticed that Sarah, I believe, was named the lady that owned Travis the Chimp,
is that after Travis killed her friend, so it was her friend who came over because they were finally
going to essentially transport Travis out of the house, It was like one and so the friend was the one who got maimed
But apparently the owner of Travis was saying but revealed that
Travis was getting more and more physically violent to her throughout the entire time before the attack
So she was covered in bruises and shit so it seems to be like giving them
value and shit oh yes but this is this is interesting because these whales are
like like building it's like the aggression builds inside of them but the
weird thing they said this about both chimps that were killed after attacking
humans is that after the attack they both have like they had these very
confused looks on their faces like what happened
Yeah, why did I do what I do? Why did I just do that? Yeah, they don't know they're not
You know, it's a fucking moment of rage. You're not supposed to be there anymore. Yeah
So the only death no I said there was four deaths until it come killed three
The only death of a trainer by an orca that did not take place at SeaWorld was the death of
Alexis Martinez by the orca Keto.
This unfortunate incident took place during a training session on Christmas Eve 2009 at
Loro Parque in the Canary Islands.
This is the one that I had you look up a little bit about.
Yeah, this is the story.
This dude, again, loved whales.
He was a great trainer.
He was a great trainer. He was a great trainer. You need a trainer for 14 years
He was a trainer. Yes, and he was yet. He was in the Laurel Park
A it's so it was like out in the middle of the park is the world's largest indoor penguin exhibition
Oh very nice student largest shark tunnel in Europe, and it's one of the only two parks in Europe to house orcas
Hmm, but I still feel like why do I always feel like a European water park cuz it's gotta be kind of not great
Yeah, because I think you imagine it being an Eastern Europe. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I imagine like concrete squares
Welcome to Procorsk
You will beg to see
the monkey you will cry and suck to see the puffin.
Like I could see it being like very intense and very sad enough.
So Martinez was working maneuvers with Keto and he'd done these a million times before,
but he decided to improvise a little.
And Keto rammed Martinez and then brought him to the bottom of the pool where Alexis laid motionless
So the way it happened is that they were they had done he had been acting weird
He'd open acting weird the entire show right they were doing this thing was a training session training thing
He'd been acting strangely and so the thing that happened is I guess like part of what they do
It's like in between like as they're trying to figure out what to do
They're like floating on top of the water and they said the first thing that was weird was that Kido came
around and positioned himself between where like the ladder and Alexis Martinez so they were trying
to sort of do and then all of a sudden it like flipped like he was like it was getting really
aggressive and it just flipped and used its nose, put
and just pushed him all the way down to the bottom of the water.
And in that push, crushed him against the bottom of the flight.
Literally just crushed him against the pool, came back up for air, went back down, crushed
him again and then came back up.
Yeah, man.
Kido retrieved, retrieved Martinez from the bottom of the pool and brought his unconscious body back to the surface where everyone then tried to help
Perform CPR to no avail, you know, and that was what happened. Laurel parquet called it an unfortunate accident
Oh, yeah, so he drowned but after the autopsy it was revealed that Alexis did not drown but suffered a very violent death
According to the coron corridor in Henry.
Oh yeah, his whole chest was crushed.
Yes, he had multiple abrasions, a lacerated liver, badly damaged internal organs, a collapse
of both lungs, fractures of his ribs and sternum and puncture wounds consistent with the teeth
of killer whales.
He was smooshed.
That would be the term, which you very rarely see in true crime?
You know, it sounds like a car accident. Yeah, only only bad car accident. It's about the size of a car
Yeah, the only other smoosh we've ever covered was in the Salem witch trials
the weights with it with the trial but
Interesting press to death
And interesting press to death. Oh good. I can't wait for the movie
Also, I find it interesting is that the Canary Islands Ministry of Labor and Immigration they basically said
Well working with orcas that's inherently risky activity and you're asking for it Like essentially they said the only way to prevent
Orcas killing humans in captivity
is to stop having orcas either in captivity
or stop having humans interact with orcas in captivity.
You know what?
They're right.
They're not wrong.
So I know what you guys are thinking back at home.
Ed, you're piling on.
This is called horrors of SeaWorld.
This happened in the Canary Islands,
at Laurel Parquet off the coast of Morocco, you know?
SeaWorld has nothing to do with this.
But the man leading the training exercise was Brian Rokeach, who was actually a trainer
from SeaWorld San Diego on loan to teach them how to train the orcas.
And Keto was one of four orcas on loan from SeaWorld, so Keto, in fact, had a list of
incidents involving trainers back in SeaWorld in America.
I find this.
It's like priests.
It's like they're moving them around.
I do also find it interesting that the ones that go on to actually kill people have a
track record
Yeah of hurting trainers over and over again. Yeah, the traumatized. Yeah. Yeah, man. It's crazy
They and they hide the fucking incident
I just cuz also cuz they don't want to talk because I feel like that's really the giant glaring red flag
Which is it's not a one. They also can't say it's a one-off incident
Yeah, you can't say oh we freaked out like like incident. They can't say, oh, we freaked out.
Like Roy, Siegfried and Roy, when he got attacked by the tiger, he was trying to say, the way
he tried to keep, what was that, I think it was like, Monte Carlo, I forget the name of
the dog, I think it was the tiger.
I don't remember its name.
But he, when he was dragged off stage.
I think now it's called Rug?
Yeah. When he was dragged off stage, yeah
When it was when he was dragged off stage, so he was named like Monteclair
So we got dragged across the stage and Roy tried to explain it as he's like the problem is is that during the attack Roy had a stroke and so he was trying to say I had a stroke
The cat was trying to save me and everyone's like no
They're all like cuz he smacked the tiger in the face. That was what happened
He smacked him in the face after he did something wrong and the tiger grabbed him by the neck
I never knew this it was on Roy's birthday. It was
59th birthday and they'll never say they kissed
Frieden Roy they died pretty close to each other. Yes, they did because he died at kovat in the end, right?
That's what got him in the end the biggest tiger of all
So, of course with Alex Martinez's death see world denied any responsibility
This was still before the fourth and most famous victim Don Branchow
And she would be the third and final victim of Tillicum now Don
Was not like the other trainers at SeaWorld
Oh, yeah
She wanted to be a Shamu performer since she was a child and stopped at nothing to achieve that goal a lot of people
Considered her one of the best if not the best SeaWorld orca trainer there was damn
She was even featured on their billboards alongside
Tilikum if you were at SeaWorld Orlando or even picked up a brochure you probably saw her until they come together
now February 24th
2010 was the last day of Don Brandt shows life. It's like a it's like a spouse killing. It's like a husband killing a wife
Yeah, really they were truly in love with each other. Yeah. Yeah
She had just finished a successful dine with Shamu lunchtime show when the attack happened
She was in the middle of a relationship session with telecom when he decided to end theirs
What's a relationship session? What does that mean? I mean, just basically like.
A date?
You know, just like, kinda like, putting your arms up
and he puts his arms up and it's just like,
you're just kinda like hanging out with it.
Okay.
Making sure, and people kinda watch,
like the VIP people kinda watch you do it
and stuff like that.
Yeah, but forming a bond.
It's like the show after the show, kinda,
but yeah, they are forming a bond
and they are in constant contact with these whales yeah they're hanging out with them all the entire
time they're at work and they're playing with them at all times there's a they
you know that's the thing is like the orcas are very active even though
they're in a tiny prison yeah you know and so but they are better be yes well
they have to be if they're gonna perform yeah, yeah, it'd be smart enough to you know
Not kill everybody. I mean you put me in a solitary confinement cell. I'm gonna be pretty active in there
Much like in chimp crazy, you know that um after this incident they put Tilikum in solitary confinement for a year
In a small pool not much bigger than this body
Terry confinement for a year in a small pool, not much bigger than this body.
Um, yeah. So they had their relationship session. Yeah. And Tilikum grabbed her by the arm or ponytail, depending on who you talk to.
C-Roll claims that she was dragged in the pool by her ponytail and it was her
fault because she had a ponytail and it seemed appealing to Tilikum.
Even though that's how she wore her hair on most days.
There's footage from a guest just seconds before the attack, almost if Tilikum was waiting
for the camera to be turned off.
They call it the Millennial Pause.
Guest Suzanne Connell witnessed the attack and screamed, he took her down, he took her
down.
Below, because below in the tanks they have like giant windows where you can go look underneath
There was a viewing window where 30 guests were eagerly waiting for a photo opportunity with telecom
I mean sit there and telecom would show up behind you and like nod its head and you get a picture and shit like
That whoa the best fucking picture ever do that be fucking metal is out when telecom arrived
He had Don Brand show in his mouth. Whoa
Fucking metal is out when till it come arrived. He had Don Brand show in his mouth
Telecom then rammed her head at the bottom of the pool dragged her body and then held her there until she briefly broke free
Guests watched this several guests saw her surface and try to get to the edge, but till it come came back for more This is serious again. It's like if a serial killer was doing kills on live stream. Yeah
came back for more. This is serious.
Again, it's like if a serial killer was doing kills on live stream.
At this point, more than two dozen SeaWorld employees tried to come to her aid, putting
out a net, other slapping the water with their hands.
It's called the cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha-cha.
Come here, come here.
That's literally all they can do.
They go, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Yeah, they were doing whatever they could to get the fucking things attention.
Because they can't all go, they don't have the big knives on
Giant poles like they do in Japan or in Iceland
Because that would also I wonder what that would do if that's how they handled it
Imagine it would immediately kill it. Yeah. Yeah instead of waiting a long time
Till it comes most dangerous game was not going to end yet. He circled the pool with Dawn in his mouth.
He drove her to the bottom again,
and her body again drifted to the top.
She was no longer moving.
He then circled around and rammed her for a third time
at full speed.
He held her body captive for over half an hour.
Eventually, the staff were able to lure him
into a medical
pool and cover him with a net. Don's body, still in his mouth, confused and angry, he
shook her like a dog with its toy. Ten more minutes passed before they finally got her
body out of his mouth. After they retrieved her body, her arm was detached and still in
his mouth, and her ponytail had been scalped from her head and was floating in another pool
Christ dude, what do you think?
Is there any sort of wondering like what goes through their heads during a moment like that?
Is it just because they are giant wild animals and they flip out and you're just it's also a game
Game like you know they play they could do that sort of RAM games.
Is that what they do with other Orcas?
It seems like they didn't know that they were doing it.
Yeah.
No, yeah, it does seem like.
And then afterwards, it knew.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was depressed.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Jeffrey Dahmer.
They tried to bring Dawn back to life
But the event was too violent and she passed away there next to the tank
You may remember the famous image on the news of her body with a blanket over her and Tilikum in his tank next to her crying
Possibly not sure what he had done. Yeah, I mean the only way you would know if he had actually purposely done it if he was posing
like hard style
You had actually purposely done it if he was posing like hard style
Everything changed after that obviously such a public violent death of one of the best trainers in front of a small crowd of people Got OSHA's attention. Oh, yeah. Yeah the occupational safety and health administration
Yeah, they sued see world in defense of the trainers and dawn
But as we know the Shamu shows continue to this day.
That wasn't even Tilikum's final show.
Holy shit!
He kept performing for six years,
along his grandson.
Holy shit, now it's R. Kelly.
Yeah.
Oh my God, he just kept doing it?
Yeah, man.
SeaWorld still claims that Don's death was her fault,
and that working conditions were and are safe for all employees.
After the movie Blackfish came out and won an Oscar, SeaWorld took a major hit.
They now have roller coasters and other theme park fare to win back guests.
Yeah, and it's like a shitty version of a, it's not, SeaWorld's bad.
Now SeaWorld has Discovery Cove, a water park for humans.
Turns out they're not good at that either, because three people lost their lives there
this year.
The most recent was last week.
Oh my god.
How?
Drowning!
Yeah man!
They're all found unresponsive in wave pools and shit.
Oh god.
Yeah.
So January 6th 2017
Tilikum to the come arrived on the steps of the White House
Going through a window
January 6 2017
Tilikum's trouble life came to an end when he died as many captive whales do from bacterial pneumonia
They just I had hands I put my heart put bum around the throat of the world
And I'd strangle them to death
That's his quote from his last work
They disposed of Tilikum's body like they do all other whales, which I learned about from an unnamed source who contacted
me after the first episode.
Yeah, because I have no idea how they do this.
Because first of all, because it's like they
can't feed them to the other animals.
So he was moved by crane to the back of house zoological area
where the vets conducted a necropsy.
Is that how you say that, Marcus?
Necropsy, yeah, that's good enough.
They conducted a necropsy which can last for hours.
Then the whale is cut up into 45 pound pieces and placed in stericycle containers.
That would be about 260 bins for telecom.
Hey, you like whales?
You want to make 45 of them?
Hey, come on out.
Oh, I heard you like whales? You want to make 45 of them? Hey, come on out. Oh, I heard you like whales.
You have chainsaws?
If the whale dies in the afternoon, the people conducting the cropsy and disposal work all
night.
The next day, a stericycle truck picks up the bins to incinerate.
It's a very messy process that would put the Gainesville Ripper to shame.
Oh yeah, buddy, because it's the...
Just covered in whale blubber. Oh, yeah, buddy was that because it's the
Just covered in whale blubber. Yeah, then put in the bins. Yeah
We're gonna need to sweep up in here chopping them up into cubes and chunks
Yeah, man And then she was she said that sometimes she would show up to work to them in the morning and see that the fridge was
Full of like bins and like oh something big died last night
that the fridge was full of like bins and like, oh, something big died last night.
You know, like.
You know, like.
Can you imagine if they did this at Disney World
with the character actors?
I mean, they'd probably do it at the Animal Kingdom,
probably.
Most zoos have incinerators and stuff like that
is another thing I learned.
Today, Sea World the Aquarium
is a much better organization.
They are more than regularly inspected
by multiple organizations,
like the AZA, the American Zoo Association,
OSHA, USDA, Humane Society, US Fish and Wildlife,
and PETA is even a shareholder
so they can have a vote in board meetings.
It's almost like they have to.
But hey, I'll take it.
SeaWorld often rehabilitates animals
like sea turtles and sea lions, etc. and they release
them back into the wild.
The people who work there truly do care for animals, but is it enough good grace to make
us forget about the past?
Think about like, I'm going to bring up Chimp Crazy again just because in the middle of
watching it, that crazy woman Tanya is always only first there
Because of how much she loved those goddamn chimps
Yeah, she loved them even though she had no fucking idea what she was doing. No taking care of giving them happy meals
But she was the chip you ordered chocolate shakes for the fucking chair
Pouring the milkshakes into the chimps mouths was just like one of the wildest scenes
I've seen in a minute
And I was just but but it's hard because it was like when my mom would feed Gracie May
Friday exam which is the dog in the morning dude that I brought up when we were watching that documentary
I brought up Gracie May to Carolina. I was like this is exactly what Henry's mom did to their fucking dog
It's called toxic love. It's this thing where she does not know that her love is killing the animal
Yeah, just cuz he likes Happy Meals doesn't mean that he should have them
Yeah, fucking Wendy would love to smoke a cigarette
Well as far as SeaWorld goes people still go
It's still one of the most successful theme parks in the world and recently
I stayed at the hotel next to SeaWorld in San Diego. Oh, so that cuz that's where they had beds your size. Yeah
I had the front desk hold my luggage while I ate one of my many meals
And when I went to retrieve it the lady at the front desk yelled to the back, get me
some more SeaWorld vouchers.
And then I asked, do people still go to SeaWorld?
And she replied to me, no one cares about that documentary.
Maybe she was right.
That's it.
And thank you so much.
My God.
Good Lord.
No one cares about that documentary.
Wow, you're right.
They don't.
I guess they don't. Ed, thank you so much! My god! Good lord.
No one cares about that documentary.
You're right. They don't.
They really don't.
Really great work, Eddie.
This has been great fun.
We definitely stepped outside
of our normal territory, but I like that
we brought it with the same vibe.
It's the same shit.
We're gonna get back to some real human crime
It's gonna be murder next week. Yeah murders on the menu murder on the docket. We got a bunch of shit
We have to we'll figure that out, but we got a bunch of shit coming up what murder on the docket everything
Yeah, we all the docket the future docket. Yeah, I want to do murder next week. No, I want to do more
We're doing murder. Okay. Yeah for certain. Yeah, more we're doing murder. Okay. All right. Yeah for certain
Yeah, we had been human murder. There you go folks. You heard it here first
Marcus is gonna murder somebody
The side stories live show come and check us out we are figuring it out
Yeah, and we can't wait and it's tonight. So come on out to the park west Please do and then tomorrow night. We are gonna be I think we have like it's like we sell out time of this recording
They release a hundred extra tickets. Yes, we had sold out and then they released another another hundred tickets
Go pick them up. We're gonna be in town. This shows our best show yet. It's pretty fucking awesome. It's pretty fucking great
We just honed it like fuck in Australia. We can't wait to show to you
I will say though. I will have to cut all my breakdancing ray gun jokes
Yeah, because the time has passed, but that woman is still dumb
It really was just the perfect time for us to be in Australia
I have never experienced yeah, it was cheap, but every single time I did the because it was only for Australia they were so happy they were so happy because it was great
because they had ray gun they also had the only Olympian to get arrested for
buying cocaine yes and then with and then they suck ill a Chinese meal man died
while we were there well we were in Melbourne yeah or Brisbane yeah in
Brisbane so hey that's kind of stuff. We bring everywhere we go
Know what we're gonna change for
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Please come on out and Brooklyn as well gonna be coming to see you this year. So come on out see us alive Okay, I can't wait to perform in Brooklyn. It's been so long
I'm gonna have a way to go cuz I haven't performed in Brooklyn since murder fest. Yeah, it's gonna be fun
Yeah, I can't wait. Oh, yeah, right. Hell sweet sight. No, no game. Hell telecom
Why no no not telecom? I know I can tell whoever I want. There's plenty of whales
We're traumatized and didn't kill their trainers well telecom
Well rhymes with hell
He's allowed he wrote the script