Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 593: Josef Fritzl Part III - Fritzl's Pretzels

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

The boys reach the final chapter in the story of Josef Fritzl whose dark secret would finally be revealed when an unavoidable trip to the hospital would expose his 24-year reign of terror. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes and get exclusive access to bonus content.

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You know, a lot of people reach out to us when we record the show and you know about this you get asking questions about How do you know if the idea that you have is right? You know like your pin our opinions There's so many what I'm just saying in general like how do you know as a person making things or doing things in life? That what you're doing is right. And what you, that inspiration, what it's like to catch that lightning in a bottle. Are you having second thoughts about talking about this for three weeks?

No. No, at all. I wish we could talk about it from now on. Never stop. But this is selection. Now, there was a book written by Joseph Fritzl's lawyer that got some, this is now hot off the presses, 2023, what it's like to finally catch the tail of an idea

that you always wondered if you could have. Suddenly he was there, the thought as if out of nowhere, like an impulse that flashed in my mind, wandering aimlessly in it, like a small lost leaf swirling over the asphalt of the road before being carried away by the wind like Forrest Gump. A vague idea I was playing with. Yeah, at first it was just a mind game, but I got used to it. The thought that it seemed so absurd,

so outrageous before took on shape. It became a fixed idea that gradually took root in my mind. I'd always been a person who made decisions alone. And one day, I knew what I had to do. All that remained was to wait for the right opportunity. talking about the sex dungeon, isn't he? Yeah, welcome the last podcast on See his inspiration that was his inspiration the leaf on the ground leaf swirling around on the ground like forest go like Forrest Gubb. Yeah, I've got the the the feather brain in Rizabrask It's true underground literature.

And the highly literate Ed Larson. Hi, you're doing a b c d e f. I'll keep going. So when we last left Joseph Redsel, it was Elizabeth's 24th year underground. I'm sorry. I don't mean to say that like happy 24th anniversary. You can't even believe it rolls around that. I think technically that does make her anniversary in the basement.

It officially becomes classic rock. So 24th year underground and she'd had seven children with her father. Three had stayed underground with her, three had been taken upstairs to be raised by Joseph and his wife, and one had died in infancy. The oldest amongst the underground children was Kirsten, who was 19 years old in April of 2008. That month she became mentally and physically ill as a result of having never once left the dungeon in which she was born.

Basically she was dying of organ failure. So Elizabeth begged Joseph Fritzl to take their daughter Kirsten to the hospital. This is not in the plan! No. Incredibly, Fritzl agreed. Although he did make Kirsten and Elizabeth wait for days until his wife Rosemarie left for a vacation to Italy. Oh, lucky her. Yeah, oh no, they took vacations to Italy all the time. It's Austria. It's like if we took a vacation to Arizona. It's not a big deal.

Rosemarie's so lucky. Once she was gone, Fritzl had Elizabeth write yet another letter, this time to the hospital, explaining Kirsten's situation to the doctors. Honestly, this time, Elizabeth, would you write it? Have you heard about this? And it's from America. It's an angry magazine. I think it's called Mad?

Angry! Angry magazine. Fury magazine. And they put these little illustrations of the models simply to die for. So you could draw little things in there and be fun little guys with moustaches. His name is Sergio Argonis and he's my favorite. Well while the note was terribly vague for obvious reasons, it did say that Kirsten was very afraid of people, that she'd been coughing for a few days now and that she'd never been

To a hospital a bit over explaining. Yeah. I mean I'm surprised he didn't kill her That's the question with Joseph Fretzel was like, why did he do this? You know why why I actually do I think I know why it is His sense of ownership over them is so utterly complete that the idea of losing them is way worse to him because it's a failure well I mean remember when Elizabeth had her you know miscarriage he got extremely angry and turned off the lights for weeks. Angry at her. Angry at her. Yes. And when the child died, when the infant died, even though, you know, he tossed it in the garbage,

basically, he was very angry about it. Like he was very upset that the child had died. And I think again, like you said, it's like a failure on his part to not take care, to not take care of them, you know, to not keep them alive like this sort of illusion that he has of this great family man. But they were his property. He'd be like losing a pair of his favorite shoes. Yeah, that's true. Now as I said at the end of the last episode, Fritzl was over 70 years old and was just plain fucking tired. So he had to get Elizabeth to help him carry Kirsten out of the dungeon and carry her upstairs

to the Fritzl family doorstep. It was the first time Elizabeth had set foot outside of the cellar in 24 years, and it was the first time Kirsten had ever left in her entire life. But as soon as Kirsten was laid outside, Elizabeth was locked back up. Just as soon as Elizabeth was hidden away again, Fritzl called emergency services and told them that he'd found an unconscious young woman on his doorstep. Once she was taken to the hospital, doctors noted that she was frighteningly pale, was missing clumps of her hair, and was missing most of her teeth.

Doctors were immediately baffled by what was happening here, but they could tell that her organs were failing, so they at least put her on life support. But even more puzzling was what happened when Fritzl arrived three hours later. He declared himself her grandfather, then asked them to please cure her, but do not call the police. You see, that's always, again, it's a super big tell. Like if you tell them,'re like hey listen all of this I know super shady right super fucking crazy, but if you

It's just like you can't believe the whole story. You would not be able to handle it. It's just the whole thing Good plug up a holes yeah I mean at this point he is thinking there's part of him that's thinking like, okay, I'm going to take her to the hospital. They're going to fix her up. They're going to release her into my care and I'm going to put a right back down in the basement and things are just going to continue on. But she has no like ID. She has nothing. Yeah. Well she grew up, was born in a cult. No Kirsten. Yeah. That's how that's the explanation. Yeah. Yeah. She was born in a cult. No Kirsten. Yeah, that's how that's the explanation

Yeah, yeah, she was born in a cult and like I don't know what goes on, you know, my daughter dropped her off I found her on my doorstep. I know what happens when they start listening to the Beatles She was listening to the Eurythmics and I knew she was going to go Naturally doctors did not follow Fritzl's directive. Fritzl had shown them Elizabeth's letter, which said that she'd only been sick for a few days. Nothing about that story matched Kirsten's horrifying condition, so doctors called police to investigate.

Fritzl stuck to his cult story when the cop showed up to his house, even going so far as to produce other notes that were supposedly written from the cult compound where Elizabeth had ostensibly lived for over two decades. That was his story and he was fucking sticking to it. You couldn't even say anything about where the cult was or what it did? No. Now, police had already heard this story and they'd accepted it time and again, but Kirsten's condition and perhaps a belated realization that Fritzl's story was fucking nuts,

that led them to reopen Elizabeth's missing persons case. The doctors needed to find Elizabeth because they needed her medical history to help diagnose what they thought was a mysterious illness. It didn't cross anyone's mind that this 19 year old girl had been kept underground for her entire life. That wasn't really a diagnosis a doctor has in his back pocket. So to them, the best thing they could come up with is that this was possibly some sort of rare wasting disease. Yeah, because you don't know that she has been literally in a actual basement, because even just being born in a cult doesn't necessarily mean that you're bound inside of a basement.

No. A lot of cults got the outside stuff. Most cults live outside. You got to go to a, they all go to the diner before everybody commits suicide. Yeah, there's comets and shit. Yeah. Like all that kind of stuff. They go out, they have excursions.

Chicken pot pies. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. So police looked at where the last letter from Elizabeth had been postmarked. It came from the town of Kamaten on the Krenz, 43 miles east of Amstetten. So the police started their search there. Now, of course there was no evidence for Elizabeth anywhere but the dungeon. And so Fritzl may have thought that his plan was kind of sort of working.

Good work Fritz, you're the smartest man in the whole world. Let's go have another daughter. Ha ha ha! Fritzel, however, had not factored in an officer named Manfred Wolfart. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, oh. Guys, you need Wolfart.

I think he's a hero. You seem to be amused by the existence of his name. Hello to the Manfred Wolfart. And now I'm the hero of today's story. I'm so sorry. How does it concern you that I have some people have irritable bowel syndrome. I have furious ass syndrome. My ass barks. Mark Simon Manfred Wolf.

Now we can treat them like an adult. I've been laughing about officer Manfred Wolfart for days. It's all about what you can cling to. Officer Manfred Wolfart studied Elizabeth Letterford's glutes. Let me take a look at this letter. Yes, her handwriting is odd. Looks different. Looks different. Looks old.

Now tell me, Manfred, how do you feel about semen in the panties? I tell you what is better than poop in the literals' n- Better mess! Semen eventually disappears! Wolfheart! You can keep those panties! He found that the handwriting in the letter was odd, as if it was more calligraphy than everyday handwriting.

He also noticed that the sentence structure felt more like it had been dictated rather than written. In other words, police were starting to figure out that there was something stinky about Joseph Fritzl's story. Sorry everyone, it's me. I once cleared a set of Indiana Jones and the Tile of Fortune, I forgot the name of it, but I am far too so bad at that one, everybody ran, Harrison Ford sued me. Meanwhile, Kirsten was only getting worse, and the doctor in charge of Kirsten, a doctor

writer, was getting more and more frustrated by what he felt was a lack of any real help from her grandfather Joseph. So in a move that bypassed Fritzl completely, Dr. Reiter issued a press release asking the public if they had any information on Elizabeth. And with that, the media got their first taste of what would be Austria's biggest story since a funny little fella named Adolf Hitler started making headlines in the thirties. You're so delighted with yourself. We're calling it a funny little fella. There's something about it. There's something about that idea because it is true. Turn the clock all the way back to 1939 for a funny little

fella called Adolf Hitler. That is wild. If you think about like Austria's like it was really not known for much, but fucking literally Adolf Hitler and homebound children. No Schwarzenegger. Yeah. It's famous of all of us. Maybe more famous. Hitler. Hitler. I'd say Hitler's number one. Yes. Do you think that Hitler on the star meter like if Hitler was on IMDB? Mm-hmm. He'd have a higher star meters than fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger. Let me actually look that up I mean, well, he was in triumph of the will so that and that was you know, Lenny right like that was a very Yeah, like influential movie. So he has his own IMDB page Of course, he was in triumph of the will and I want to see what his star meter

Well, I mean everyone who's actually actually who has Joseph Fritzl has his own IMDB page I am I had so here's IMDB page. I honestly can't fucking believe that Adolf Hitler actually has 43 credits yeah Yeah. As self. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. He is all shy. He has his headshot and has all the pictures in the photo with like where they would have all the scar Joe's stuff. Who manages them? Oh, let me look up his agent. His agent. I bet he's with CAA. Wow. Well, immediately, reporters arrived at Fritzl's house, but instead of finding a concerned, devastated grandfather, they found a furious old bastard berating the press and cursing

Dr. Ryder for causing trouble. Now, Rosemary Fritzl had still not returned from her Italian vacation, possibly because no one had told her what had occurred while she was away, and I would imagine she probably doesn't call to check in with Yosef all that often. I think she's happy to be in fucking Italy, away from the sex dungeon topper, and she is just like enjoying herself, I guess. I actually also feel like Rosemary does a lot of the it's all the clinking of a glass Staring into the middle distance like no she's got the thousand yards. Yeah, it's all just being like someone always goes like so do you like?

some brata, and she's like huh Yeah, it's good nice and squishy Soon enough though she was called back when doctors requested DNA samples from everyone in the Fritzl family. She complied, but Joseph refused, saying he was too busy to do so. I'm too busy! I'm too busy to come! I've got office work, it takes me nine hours, and my daughter! Eventually, though, perhaps because Fritzl was just too tired to keep up the charade once the first kid was out of the dungeon He decided he had no choice but to free Elizabeth and the rest of the children Some about him opening the doors and the mole rutting out like all the animals to the top of Lion King

It's not a complete bit, but it's just an image in my head. I just see Rafiki him as Rafiki with his red butt and he's holding up the he's the babo. Here's the end. It's like a 19 year old super long skinny, like the emaciated girl and stuff like that. Yeah. To me it's like if he was Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln at the same time. Jefferson Davis, Abraham Lincoln, Joseph Ritzel. But before they were all let out, Joseph made Elizabeth swear that she wouldn't tell the truth about where she'd been for the last 24 years and would instead stick to the cult story for the rest of her life. Yes, and the way we will bind this is by the sacred Australian power of the Pinky Swear. Elizabeth eagerly agreed, probably knowing that she would drop the pretense as soon as

she felt it was safe to do so. There was also no chance that once the authorities got a look at the family, they wouldn't immediately see that something was terribly wrong here. And they would also see that Elizabeth and her kids were going through whatever her daughter Kirsten was going through as well. They were fucking see-through. Yes, they were. And I think that you should then see this answer from the

Abyss of Yosef F of why he thought like this is just an Example of his brain as you could why he think he'd walk through this whole fucking thing unscathed The woman the this horrible lawyer that asked him the question being like time to ask you It's like I got the impression that you're someone who's always wanted to have everything under control ask you. He's like, I get the impression that you're someone who's always wanted to have everything under control. Didn't that play a decisive role in your crimes? And he says, you see where all this leads? Think of values like family. It used to count as the nucleus of society. The parental home was the most important thing. Nowadays, everything is completely different. The state interferes everywhere. This leads

to nothing good. I could see it here where I am now. Many of those who end up in prison, they come from broken homes. As opposed to the home that you created, very, very, very put together, very bound. We were bound together. This is why they didn't have to watch Sesame street because they were being held captive Together very bound we were bound together This is why they didn't have to watch Sesame Street because they were being held captive by one of the characters It's like our wives with last podcast why would they listen they get so much But after 8,516 days in the dungeon, Elizabeth finally left with her two remaining children, Stefan and Felix.

Stefan was 18 and Felix was 5. And just like their sister in the hospital, neither had seen sunlight in all their years on earth. Now, Rosemarie and the upstairs children, who had also been birthed by Elizabeth, they were out of the house when Elizabeth got her first taste of freedom. But when they came home, they were surprised with the arrival of the wayward daughter and mother Elizabeth, who'd supposedly come home from the cult after 24 years. She's just suddenly in the fucking living room.

Yeah, just hanging out and again, I'm trying not to at all talk any mess about the, but it's also the visual must have been very stark. Yeah. Because I think that it's very similar to the Donner Party gets, right? Where they get kind of like feral, like this idea that this person that went from the basement, no sunlight, like she must literally be translucent, red, the gray stringy hair, teeth rotted out of her mouth. And she just, what's supposed to do? She was just sitting there being like, Hey everybody, uh, what's Saturday night live?

You know what I mean? Like just saying stuff like random weird questions. We have to go like, so this is normal now. Our new normal. Now at this point, are there people living in the apartments in the house? I have to go like mm-hmm. So this is normal now our new normal now at this point Are there people living in the apartments in the house? Yeah, I feel I deal with her in the not deal with her But you know what I'm saying like well the apartments were completely separate from like the home itself Okay, I don't know if there was a shared living space. No no no no okay Well soon after she was let out Joseph Fritzel called Dr.

Ryder and told him that Elizabeth had suddenly returned, and Fritzl was bringing her to the hospital to see Kirsten. It's crazy! This shit's fucking crazy to me! I just, it's, uh, life's crazy! You know, I jumped in and said, life is what happens when you're making other plans. The twist and turns in this story, if you would have wrote a Hollywood screenplay, you would have thrown it to the trash Honestly, you would be like, okay, that's a made up You then again quite suspiciously told dr. Ryder to not call the police The general's always gonna say that

Don't like to be annoying, you know half an hour later Elizabeth showed up at the hospital Disoriented in sporting a head of snow white hair despite being just 42 years old She told the receptionist that she was there to help her daughter Kirsten, but Dr. Ryder figured it was better for Elizabeth to immediately talk to the police. Now Fritzl's cult story had already started to wobble with the police due to their inability to find a cult anywhere near Amstetten. And that's not to mention the work of officer Manfred Wolfhardt. I'm trying to see anybody who's operating a group. I'm so hard.

No, no, I'm not doing anything except the bowling league. And it's way more. I honestly was surprised how consensual the bowling league was. Excuse me. Very difficult. You don't think it's difficult. You go ahead and take a walk in my big police boots. My fart-filled pants.

That's life's like. Nevertheless, Elizabeth did try to stick to the script when police first questioned her. It became obvious very quickly, however, that Elizabeth wasn't telling the truth. Her story made no sense, and like her daughter, she was unnaturally pale, obviously malnourished, and missing most of her teeth. She was, in a word, completely jacked up. Yeah. And like, talking to her, she obviously-

Three words. Completely jacked up, yeah. Those three words Did we did you break? I'm just getting to it early before you get the emails I'm just trying to jump on top of it here. We'll snap him out. Mr. Fritzel your daughter's in a living room That was my erection in case you didn't know that's what the sound Finally though, Elizabeth agreed to tell the truth, but only if the police promised to protect her and her children and only if she would never have to see her father ever again. Investigators agreed, and Elizabeth quickly broke into tears and summarized the last

24 years of her life in just two hours, talking as fast as she could. She told them about the dungeon, the sex slavery, the forced pregnancies and births, and the baby that had died from medical neglect and was subsequently burned in the incinerator. The first session of therapy is always the worst. Yeah, because you've got to sing everything. It's the long one. And that's when the investigation fell solely on Joseph Fritzl. Because even though the dungeon story was fucking insane,

it still made more sense than the cult story. Of course! And then it just... The vibe in that room like the idea of sitting in hearing this because this and looking at her the way she looked at her looking the way she looks and knowing everything else they experience with interacting with Yosef it that just missed have been such a Crazy afternoon been such a crazy afternoon. It's not a summer at camp. Like, it's not just a wild day.

Unfortunately, there's like one cop that's like, fuck, this is going to be a lot of paperwork. It's like sitting, especially in a liberal country like this, where you're just like, oh, this is going to. Wow. I just wanted the cult thing to be real. Yeah. Now, initially, Joseph Fritzl was a tad standoffish when he was brought in for questioning. Eventually, though, he couldn't deny the situation any longer and confessed to the whole thing in a highly whitewashed version of the truth.

See, he admitted to the incest. How could he not at that point? There's seven kids, but he made it more quote-unquote Romantic by saying that he never technically forced Elizabeth to have sex with him. I made her laugh Yes, he said he did have sex with her But she'd wanted him to and besides he hadn't had sex with his daughter for many months now Hey listen, okay, you try to fucking tell me have you ever tried to quit cold turkey on anything? I haven't touched my daughter once in like four months

You know how hard that is for me And that was actually something he said in his defense as if it made him a better person The only way to really describe I mean he is so person. The only way to really describe, I mean, he is so unbelievably mentally ill and nothing illustrates it more than the book from his perspective. And it's all of this. He lives in an entire fantasy realm. It's crazy because I would keep trying to think of people to reference him to, but he is the worst one. He's singular.

He's unique. Yeah. In his words, he imprisoned Elizabeth for her own good to save her from drugs and so-called bad company. He said he always meant it well, and he therefore had no reason to be sorry for keeping her underground for almost two and a half decades. In his book, he also, he puts it like it was this colorful, sick at life. And that what he, it was the stress that he had at home.

And he would always love going out to go to work. He would travel for work. And he would go out and he said that like, and then he would describe in this book that when he would go out for work, these like, tris, these like romantic consensual tris with waitresses and flight attendants and people working in hotels.

And he told this like long story. He's stories like I met the most beautiful woman in Ghana She was a professional painter and I wooed her with my international ways and fine mustache And when we made love her her excursions would feel the hut with all sweat filled noises and gasps as I Salt or sweat filled noises and gasps as I plunged in and out of her and then he says that he had like a baby That he went to go see he said he had babies all over the fucking world Which I believe I actually do believe but they did not come from consensual sex Yeah, well Elizabeth Fritzl's underground children meanwhile were alternating between being ecstatic and Terrified of what they found outside of

the cellar. On one hand, Felix Fritzl screamed with delight when he finally saw the actual moon. Oh my god, but he couldn't handle cancel culture. And 18-year-old Stefan was able to stand up straight for the first time in his entire life. On the other hand, the outside world was also overwhelming. The kids could barely stand to be apart from Elizabeth at all, and they were absolutely terrified of cars. Each child also had their own complex health problems, from paper-thin skin to wildly defective

immune systems, not to mention the health problems that come from inbreeding. Additionally, they also had to wear protective goggles in all but the most dimly lit rooms because their eyes couldn't handle the light, and they had to wear prescription-strength sunscreen just to go outside. They're basically vampires, as far as what they can handle. Little flash of sunlight can burn them, when they said when like Felix would feel like sunlight on his face, he'd like giggle he'd scream You know like there's these but like scream and delight. Yeah, there's the this like dichotomy here of like yeah, they've Seller, but they're also kids. Yes at the same time

Doctors even had to install a cargo container at the hospital to replicate the underground world the Fritzl children were accustomed to Pandas yeah, and they had like the kids would like go into the container when the outside world became too overwhelming Windows were too much. Yeah, just windows people sounds, you know anything like that And so they would just like to go into like a dark place a dark small place I mean that was what they'd known their entire life, you know, anything like that. And so they would just like to go into like a, a dark place, a dark small place. I mean, that was what they'd known their entire life. You know, like, I don't really like Texas all that much, but I can't deny it's kind of comforting to drive, drive down a dirt road. It's your home. Yeah. That's where I'm from. It's in your blood. Yeah. It's in your blood. Like that's the thing with where you're raised. There's something comforting about that. You know, I enjoy the Everglades Yeah, it's in your blood. That's the thing, where you're raised, there's something comforting about that.

I enjoy the Everglades, but it's horrible. I love the back of a cop car. That's where I was conceived and that's where I really cut my teeth. Despite all that though, the kids were remarkably happy and were continuing to make progress Rosemarie Fritzl however had a total nervous breakdown when she was told the full scope of her husband's crime She finally had to face it. I mean she just knew that her life was over. Yeah, that is how I view this I think that she I I don't blame her she was just as much of a victim as anybody else But it's so hard because you want to say that the mother's job is a sort of like Be the shield or fix things or do something to some kids. Yes. Yeah, but so it's hard

So I know it I know that she was also a part of but she was also a victim Also, if she didn't have that nervous breakdown, then that'd be like, oh, okay. Well, you should go to prison Yeah, she was so distraught that she very nearly died from the shame of it all and was hospitalized for a time with severe heart problems partly her stress came from the Incredibly intense press coverage of the Joseph Fretzel case. Do you guys remember when this story broke in 2008? Oh, I remember we were on roundtable. No, we weren't roundtable didn't start till a little bit later We started we I think we were actually talking about the other story that referenced this story. And then we were, our minds were shattered when we found out about this. I think when, by the time we said we didn't start doing around table till 2010.

So I think that his trial was coming up. Cause I don't think we were talking about it on round table until like 2000. I think pretzels pretzels was like 12 13. Yeah What was yeah real early? Yeah real early. We're really late Well when Austrian police released a statement with details about Fritzl and his underground dungeon the press dubbed him dos In this monster while claiming and this is a biggie in this part of the world that his actions were quote the worst Crime in history I will stay I will say it's Yeah, no, no I got again no problem. Yeah. I'm not trying to disparage Elizabeth Fritzel, but the Holocaust. Right? I've always said that. I've always said, I was like, why do

we got to go this hard? Yeah. And when she got released, it was a little bit like the sound of music. The police held multiple press conferences full of stunning details, including one announcing that DNA tests confirm that Joseph Fretzel had fathered seven children with his own daughter. According to a test, you are the father. Oh, no. What the fuck? No, that's not beach. No, it could not be.

I kill you, Maury. Oh no! What the fuck? No, that's not beach! No, it can't be! I'll kill you, Maury! Well, this steady stream of information made Joseph Ritzel a blockbuster worldwide news story that always mentioned Austria, Austria, Austria as the location. Yeah! Austria Austria as the location. Yeah, then Natasha Kanpush the girl we talked about last week She'd escaped her captured just south of Vienna in August of 2006 Meaning that within a little over a year and a half Two underground rape dungeon stories broke out of Austria on a global scale Well, this is all very distressing to the Austrian government who'd hoped that 2008 was the year

very distressing to the Austrian government, who'd hoped that 2008 was the year everyone was going to talk about how good of a job Austria had done hosting the massive European Cup soccer tournament, instead of asking why Austria has so many highly disturbing fuck dungeons everywhere. Hey listen, I am sick of these questions. No one wants to ask how we got the nets. How we got the nets so big and cool. Right? No one wants to ask questions. Oh god, isn't it crazy? And so Austrian Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer announced that the government was going to

launch a PR campaign to take the focus off Austria as quote, the land of dungeons and shift it to the fancy football tournament that was sure to bring in many tourist dollars. But while many Austrians thought the PR campaign was distasteful, people weren't going to stay away from Austria because of the dungeons any more than people stay away from America because of the serial killing and gun violence. Yeah, dungeons only got one person at a time. Yeah, I mean that's even factoring in that you're far more likely to get shot in America than kidnapped in Austria. Yeah, exactly.

Your father's not Joseph Fritzl, you know, like you don't know you're going to be, yeah. Yeah, it's not great for Austria, but it's not gonna like I mean they still had Arnold Schwarzenegger You know, yeah What people want for the not promo the soccer tour no It's what they just didn't want them to like sweep the Joseph Fritzl story under the rug Which is what they were trying to do. They were trying to like kind of know the shit I love her story in an eight door basement. Yeah. I mean, what do you want to do? Talk about it all the fucking time. Yeah. Yeah.

But they did. They just wanted to remake Austria's image with a PR campaign. I agree. Honestly though, it would take Arnold Schwarzenegger showing up as the Terminator going like, you know, like, you will not be back in a sex dungeon. I don't know. Now, Joseph Ritzel was largely unfazed by all the negative media attention and in fact seemed to enjoy it all quite a bit. He spent all his time in his jail cell reading news and watching TV coverage about himself

soaking up every word. Cause he liked how his hair looked. He liked how his mustache looked. reading news and watching TV coverage about himself, soaking up every word. In a kind of sick irony, though, the prison cell where he was kept for imprisoning his daughter was far nicer than the cell he built for Elizabeth. Fitzel had a TV, a radio, a comfortable bed with clean sheets, a window, and a potted plant. He also got three fresh meals a day and an hour to go outside and get exercise. The difference was that Elizabeth did not have multiple men threatening to kill her day and night

like Joseph Fritzl had in jail. Well, you know, she had him. Yeah, that was true. He was, but he was only one of them. Yeah. There wasn't like an entire jail full of men. Yeah, but he says he's very well-liked. Well, that's what he says. He was simply called Satan by the other inmates, and an actual bounty was put on his head that would be paid to the inmate who finally murdered him. Joseph Ritzel had naturally been a fan of true crime for his entire life. So when it came time to pick a lawyer, he knew exactly who to call. The lawyer was named Rudolf Meyer, and he defended the most notorious criminals in Austria's recent history. Most notably, he defended Alfreda Baudensteiner,

the so-called nanny das of Austria. Elfriede was a black widow who'd murdered seven elderly men for their money by poisoning some of them with a diabetes drug, Uglucon. One terribly cruel death, however, came when she locked an old man in a bathroom in an ice bath with the windows open during winter, which froze him to death. God, pretty impressive. You know, he said, because he also knew very well, he got really well. There was a guy that was his next door neighbor in jail that was the name of Alfred Yu. He was a man. When he was awaiting trial?

While he was awaiting trial. And so he got him, they got to be really good friends according to him. And he said that he was, the guy was, he was called the C killer after being prisoned for more than 30 years for violent sexual offenses. He was released on parole. Then after two years, he relapsed because it's how they do it over there. He strangled a sex worker, dismembered her body, and then he took up a bunch of her body parts, minced them into a bunch of beef and then would taste them, would eat them and then sell those things that meets other people. Wow. Now he's a chef in jail. Specialized meals for Joseph. Interesting. Wow

Now Rudolph Mayer had represented elf fright us seven years earlier in 2001 after her initial conviction when more bodies were exhumed So Joseph Fritzl was well acquainted with Mayer's work mayor. Meanwhile, who seemed to revel in publicity Immediately agreed to represent the most notorious Austrian of the 21st century. The reason why, Mayer said, was that he could tell when people were really monstrous. And when he met Joseph Fritzl, he detected, quote, no negative aura. Oh yeah, it's all about he definitely, uh, Joseph Fritzl definitely passes the vibe check. He is totally mellow, totally fun. And he's just fucking like chill as hell and he just fucking he'll be there

He'll have sex with his daughter and that's it. You don't gotta worry about anything. You want to take care of yourself at all He has himself well the mayor's words He wanted to show Joseph Fritzl as a human being instead of a horrific monster or a sexual tyrant that of course meant pleading insanity instead of a horrific monster or a sexual tyrant. That of course meant pleading insanity. Now, even though there was a mountain of obvious evidence showing what Joseph Fritzl had done, Austrian authorities were taking no chances. They interviewed everyone who'd lived at all of Fritzl's properties over the last 24 years, cataloging every bit of information they could find. Can you imagine that? Like

someone showing up and like asking like, Hey, you remember that landlord you had 10 years ago? He had an underground rape dungeon with his daughter. Yeah. You were living on top of it. Yeah. What do you remember? Oh, I remember being real nice. I remember one time I went in the backyard and he beat me with a hose. Yeah, but I deserved that. I was not supposed to be in the backyard. I spent a lot of time in the dungeon, but really just hanging out. Well, in all 30 detectives and 300 police officers worked around the clock for months, even though they knew he was guilty. They wanted an airtight fucking case.

This is like a Nuremberg level trial where they're like, we must put, because also what's intense about their legal system is, which we covered a little bit with Anders Breivik, not the same countries, but kind of similar in vibe, where they really have to spell out why Josef Fritzl must be in jail forever. Yeah.

Right. Because they like to, they believe in, uh, in rehabilitation and they believe it. And I believe they do have the 20 year maximum sentence as well. I'm not certain if it's like that, but his sentence gets reevaluated every couple of years. Well, I think, I don't think they have like life without parole And I know he gets parole after 15 years Yeah

So they had he has to keep meeting with people and cops also looked at over 700 cold cases They looked at sexual assaults missing persons murder But they could find nothing new to stick to Joseph outside of what he'd done to his family But we know he done so we found out he did some bad things. Well, it was speculated that he committed a couple of murders, but it's just that he was around at the same time that these horrible murders occurred. And then did he plead not guilty to this whole fucking dungeon crime? We'll get to that here in a second.

All right. And that's the thing is that authorities, they took no chances. They use sonar probes at Fritzl's other properties to see if he had built any other underground dungeon. A second underground dungeon? It's more exhausting than having a daughter for a wife. It's cheaper than a sonar probe, a shovel. No, no. You don't want to ruin the precious apartments of Austria. Such escapades as using sonar, that was just more fodder for the media, who couldn't

stop talking about Joseph Fritzl's Austrian sex dungeon. Journalists camped outside of the hospital where Elizabeth and her children were recovering, and allegedly there was a reward of $1.5 million for the first photo of Elizabeth after her escape. 1.5 million dollars for the first photo of Elizabeth after her escape after that Austrian anti-terrorism forces guarded the hospital and many photographers were arrested trying to get in it I do think that they took her safety and happiness very seriously Yes, which I will say that is also what's kind of it's almost like they took it per like the country They took it personally of like we failed this girl

Yeah, it is it's because it is very different than you see it sometimes in certain cases in America But this is just one of those cases where you could tell Yeah, they smelt their failure all over themselves And they knew that they had to do something about it and they they the way that they very closely guarded her was was very You know like it was great like she we still don't necessarily know where she is I wonder if the Tasha was the other woman, right? Yes. I wonder if they ever met and like talked about this shit Yeah, they're on a group text with the girls who escaped Ariel Castro. Yeah Talk all the time

Well on one occasion an English photographer a type of journalist known to be the scummiest around, Yes. Climbed the hospital walls to the third floor to try to claim the reward, but was arrested when a nurse spotted him. A different nurse, however, was caught surreptitiously taking a photo of the family so he could sell it to a magazine for nearly half a million dollars. It's a lot of money. After that, the host- No, what are you saying? Are you saying that?

Is it like, you know, he probably did it, it's a lot of money. With a nurse, it's like, when you keep ramping up the reward of it, I feel like in a way, it's like, it's where you could almost blame a little bit of the institution too, being like, you're doing this on purpose.

You're driving people that are desperate to want to do it. Oh no, it's the institution's fault, definitely, for offering the money for the privacy, you know, to destroy the privacy of these people. Oh yeah. After that, the hospital banned all phones and cameras and threatened the job of anyone who broke the no phone, no camera rule. Eventually, the family's plight gained the attention of the world's second most famous Austrian Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think he's more famous. You really think so?

Joseph Fritzel? No, then Hitler. Oh yeah. He's definitely more famous than Fritzel. He's definitely more huggable. Actually, I don't know. But Arnold Schwarzenegger, yeah, I mean they won't show me. I got to log into my IMDB Pro.

I have to change it again, because I let it lap. So I'll look at their star meter, and I'll find out the definitive answer if Schwarzenegger is more popular than Hitler. He's definitely more popular! Well, positively, yes. He's more welcomed. Well-liked. His movies are more watched.

Actually, I don't know, Tri'm trying to the wills pretty big Well at the time of the Fretzel case This was back when Schwarzenegger was governor of California And he offered a personal invitation to visit him here as his personal guest you bring me your little bit You bring me the daughters and I will pop them up. They're very skinny looking. I will make them strong. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la Come on you pussy dude, put up 20 more pounds, I don't care, your skin is ripping off at the simple touch of metal I'm sorry, he became Fritzl Yeah he did, yeah he became really horrible Yeah, I'm sorry

Yeah and you're spitting, you have a bunch of spittle on your lip that you just, I just saw you suck it back in You love your spit You really do It's called the fucking, it's Montong's lube of your spit. You really do. It's called the fucking, it's Montong's Lube. Well, on a far smaller scale, a former schoolmate of Elizabeth's, in a misguided attempt to help, she recorded and released a schlager song about Elizabeth's experience called

Vairun Svansegyara, or 24 years. The song, however, is completely unobtainable because Elizabeth's lawyer very quickly slapped the singer with a cease and desist order, even though all profits from the CD went to Elizabeth. Year one, it's not so fun. Year two, hey, I'm feeling blue. Year three, hey, what's growing in me? Year four, that's my daughter. She's on the floor. But aren't you allowed to just write a song? Yeah, but they still slapped her with a cease and desist. I don't know. Maybe the laws are different in Austria I think it's maybe in poor taste

Song I think is it in quiet port is Yeah, kind of sort of like a drinking song, you know, I feel like it's not what I want to hear in a tavern Well, if I'm drinking a big stein no, but then I'm in Oktoberfest You can totally do a schlager song that's kind of based on your model That would be like you could imagine yourself in a beer hall holding a stein No and everyone's me out. No and everyone's going yara Ainz Ainz Ainz It's kind of nice I'm gonna give me a way to Format the memory just saying it can't be done. You know who should write a song about it boy, George

Why didn't he keep someone a prisoner I didn't know about that at all. Captive man. Yeah. 15 months from falsely imprisoning male escort. Wow. Wow. He looks like Kingpin. It's still, I mean like much better. I will say that. The basement was lovely. Unfortunately, yeah, if you're being held in, boy, George's, like, nice house, you got the big bath, you got the fucking glory holes, you got the DJ room. Kirsten Fritzl, meanwhile, had finally come out of her medically induced coma and had been taken off live support.

But speaking of who could have done a song when she regained consciousness, doctors gave her a CD player and every album from UFO enthusiast Robbie Williams because Kirsten had seen him on TV in the cellar and had become obsessed. Wow. So he could have written the song. Yeah and then I could just see Robbie Williams showing all up just like, hey how's that logo? You're like doing like the weird sort of like you know the meet-and-greet that they do for like you know like wish kids and she's just like I'm sure he did a great job being nice. You know I mean, but it's super awkward. Yes, it is

But while there were some happy times with Elizabeth and her family and there was You can't believe the kids is fucking goblins It was in a weird afternoon. But nice, I'm glad he did that. But while there were some happy times with Elizabeth and her family, there was a certain resentment that was starting to grow concerning Elizabeth's mother, Rosemary, especially concerning the question as to how much she knew about her husband's crimes. Reportedly, Elizabeth took the three so-called upstairs children out of Rosemarie's care

after giving a deposition as to what happened to her in the previous 24 years, which I think got her to thinking about just how her mother couldn't have known about the dungeon. The dungeon is different. Like I know it's ridiculous to say. I think that the dungeon was specifically Fritzel's entire life was devoted to keeping that dungeon a secret. The most part and his work, which is what he said. Everybody ignored was how hard he worked and, but Rosemary, I just, it was more all of the rest. It was just all the kids showing up. No questions asked. She was the

perfect person to go along with it. Any other person might have asked a question. He picked when he was 20 years old, he knew exactly who he was picking. He specifically paired himself with someone he could entirely dominate and abuse. Yeah. Well, after giving the deposition, Rosemarie was kicked out of Elizabeth's new house, which of course shattered the elderly grandmother. The nightmare only continued for Rosemarie after that, who was hounded by the press both at her new home in Linz and at her former home with Joseph when she went back to pick up a few possessions. I would fucking whatever's in that house still leave it. Leave it man.

Also with these reporters isn't there anything else going on? In Austria? Well this is the biggest story in the world. Dude this story is fucking ape shit. This story the story is if you really we're used to it No, I mean when this was like a hot new single. Yeah, this shit was blowing people's minds like R. E S P Ct. This is a crazy Crazy story. No, there are people being sent from America and England and countries all over the world being sent to Austria Specifically for this story. Oh my god. Yeah. I mean it this was massive. This is covered wall to wall What's the big deal?

And soon after that she finally announced she was divorcing from Joseph Fritzl Oh took that it took a long time As far as what happened to the house at it's trust of the a sig where Fritzl built his dungeon Joseph actually hired a second lawyer to transform it into a true crime attraction. He was gonna charge admission But once police heard about this plan, they flooded the cellar with liquid concrete the house However, still stands to this day. Concerning Fritzl, he was charged with manslaughter for the dead baby, 3,000 counts of rape, and slavery under an obscure 19th

century penal code. In other words, there was no way Joseph Fritzl was ever going to be free. Although the trial was kept private except for opening statements and sentencing, the court psychiatrist's 130-page report on Joseph Fritzl's mental state got leaked to the press. In it, Fritzl blamed his mother for everything saying that because of her he was quote Born to rape you see though. I feel like they twisted the statement because the actual quote is I Lasted a long time for someone born to rape

That's the actual say that yeah, that's the actual quote that's the actual quote Yeah, well he did also say that he could have behaved a lot worse than locking up his daughter That's the actual quote. That's the actual quote. Yeah. Well, he did also say that he could have behaved a lot worse than locking up his daughter. Oh, that's basically saying like you're lucky. This is the worst I did. And it's not even that bad. Yeah. Thank you.

I appreciate everything you've done for us. Yeah, dude. I could have totally. That's worse. Lots of shit I could have done. He also blamed seeing bombs fall on Amstetten during World War II when he was a Hitler youth, saying it was a traumatic experience for him. Everyone had it!

Hundreds of millions of people went through the exact same fucking thing. But do other people have siren phobia? Yeah! A lot of them. Whatever! You don't know me. the exact same fucking thing. But do other people have siren phobia? Yeah! A lot of them. Whatever! You don't know me. Don't talk like you know me.

I'm going to my basement. He said that it was traumatic, especially since his mother would abandon him during the bombings, which sounds like his mother wanted him to die. These statements were expanded upon in an interview Joseph Fritzl's did with his lawyer Rudolph Meyer Who thought and because Rudolph Meyer thought hey if only people could see Joseph Fritzl's human side Yeah, if they could so charming and funny and cute they understand them a lot better. Yeah, you sit down. I have a meal with them As author John Glatt put it, the interview was, in a way, Fritzl's Mein Kampf, his way to explain himself to everyone.

Now Mayer was probably trying to show people how crazy Fritzl was, because you'd have to be crazy to imprison your daughter, rape her, and father seven children with her over the course of 24 years. Crazy like a fox! Crazy like a fox! It's because he built a fox. Yeah, it's only crazy like a fox. It's because he built a den. It was a burrow.

But surprising no one except Rudolph Mayer, the hours long interview only creeped people out even more than they were already creeped out. Crazy! Fritzl spoke at length about his sexual feelings for his mother, then implied that he should be congratulated for never acting on his fantasies. Get over it! No! No!

I was strong! Okay? Do you have... Tell me. Okay? Alright. Who was your mother like? I tell you what, she had bigger tits than your mom and I still didn't fuck with her.

Hey! My mom had great tits! How dare you say anything bad about... My mom had great tits and your mom. I still didn't. Hey, how dare you say anything? Great tits. My mother did have Fritzel then talked about how much pride he had in raising an incest family in a dungeon of his own making. I did it myself. I pulled myself up by my bootstraps. I got the concrete. I made the concrete. I made the daughter. I made the daughter's daughter. And then I was going on to make the new daughter be my new wife. Okay.

And you try it. He basically said that the reason why he was such a brutal tyrant was because he'd grown up a Nazi, which wasn't his fault either. But he liked it, but it also wasn't his fault. It's bad, but it's good. But it's also bad, but also good. And also what's bad about it? Come on, why does everyone get so weird about this?

He then said that he was not the monster the media portrayed him as because, quote, Hey, I could have killed them all. Then nothing would have happened. No one would have ever known about it. Okay. Arguably would have been better. Well, maybe. But at the same time, I could have totally done it in crazy ways. Fritzl, however, got angry when his lawyer brought up Elizabeth's claim that her father

started raping her at age 11. Fritzl denied that, saying that he was not a man that has sex with little children, but was definitely a man who had sex with his daughter after she turned 18. I waited till my daughter became a woman. Yeah, because there's nothing wrong with that. No! And he keeps banging her after she was dying. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah, Eddie, you seem to... You know what I'm known to see from you? You know what? I'm letting it get to me. You're... I'm letting it bother me. Oh, so you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I... from you, you know what I'm letting it get to me From you you know what I get from all this work, it's I'm so surprised we're in Los Angeles. You're so judgmental

You're so judgmental of this man the way he lives his life. Okay, how dare you? I know I should feel sorry for this Nazi that his daughter. Yeah Think about how much pressure that was for him. He says it right here. He says it, he's like, think about it. I could tell no one how I felt. I was a man alone that could never tell anyone my true inner struggle. Don't you feel bad for him? I take it back.

His conf. Mine conf. I take it back his comp mine comp Well Fritzl also doubled down on what he told police Saying that the only reason why he put Elizabeth in the cellar was because she didn't follow his rules She spent all her time hanging out in local bars hanging out with persons of questionable moral standards She was 11. Yes the dungeon he said well no she was 18 when she was put in the cellar. Oh yeah, that's right, that's right. But still, it's early. It's very early.

The dungeon, he said, was a place where he gave her a chance, by force, to stay away from bad influences. Now, Mayer hoped that all this would garner sympathy for Fritzel. Definitely, yeah, of course. They just gotta see. But predictably everyone saw him as cynical and delusional. The media pulled quotes like, I could have killed them all for headlines, and ran photos of Fritzl sunbathing in a speedo next to a story called, I lusted after my mother.

And aren't you jealous? The Joseph Fritzl story. After just four days in court, Joseph Fritzel pled guilty to all charges and was sentenced to life in prison. Okay. And since then he'd been imprisoned at a psychiatric hospital for mentally ill prisoners. Although as of just this year, it was determined by courts that the 89 year old Joseph, he's still fucking alive today. These mean bastards never fucking die.

They never do there's also something about people with like you know I I hate it when people throw the word like narcissism around but he Legitimately is the textbook Like of the very peak of having a narcissistic personality disorder my grandmother was also Diagnosed with the same and what she would do is take a Fair implicit care of herself and so she lived till she was 94 evil bitch to the very end So we just got five more years Well, the hospital said that he no longer posed danger and could therefore be transferred to a regular prison. His new lawyer, a woman named Astrid Wagner, said that she will apply for his release after his transfer.

Joseph wrote in his book that if he is ever released, he plans to move back to Amstetten and open a small business. Here's a couple of these. Now, this woman... Quite possibly Fritzl's pretzels. I legitimately... This is the time! This is this woman that wrote the book, The Abysses of Joseph S. The abscesses. The abscesses of Joseph F.

I would actually put her in a category of, apparently she dated a serial killer in jail. And so she became a serial killer groupie in this world, right? She's deep in this world, which is why you said Fritzl chose her. He wrote her a letter saying I saw and read your book about Jack Unterweger and I loved your sympathetic stance with him. Will you retell my story? Now this isn't 2023. So this is years after this. So all of the trials happened. He's had a long time to really sit and think and she's trying to show the world. Same thing. You've got to know him. If you meet him, he

is just a frail grandfather who just he is the most charming, delightful. And what she does is a very similar. It's how do you put this? I feel like it's the same way anybody who loves these historically bad men Where they must identify with something within their family that they see the way she seems to talk about him is that he's she's either physically in love with him or Like all she does is ask questions stuff like she's like What does love mean to you?

Like she says stuff like that like one time asked me, like one of the questions she asked, um, tell me, hey, tell me, Joseph, who was the true love of your life? And he said, don't even ask him that question. No, dude, no, this is like, it is very, very, it's just like stuff like that where he said, um, my wife, I always got along well with her, but we had very different spheres of life, you know? I had my job, my travels, and of course my secret love affairs.

I was always looking for adventure in some way. I guess I didn't appreciate her enough, you know? Could you perhaps get in touch with her? I have so much to explain to her. They say that you should not only be at peace with yourself, but also with others before leaving this world So he believes that also my favorite was she's like, what do you look for in a woman? And he says I like it when she has a temper when she's approachable and I mean I don't mean that in a sexual sense I mean open-minded in terms of a character. Yeah, he likes to see himself in

Yeah, well, he said in the book with no irony He says that he is a good guy Yeah, and a responsible family man He also says the direct quote from him and he is bitching constantly about how no one paid attention to how great his work was Yeah, like how he was such an impressive, successful businessman, and that he would call these like his dalliances, and he would mostly talk about the pressure

of having a secret love, and how hard that was on him. Never mentions Joseph Jr., which I find intriguing, does not come up at all. None of the other kids come up. No one mentions Joseph Jr. Nobody does, and it is just really fucking crazy Yeah, well, he also claims to have many illegitimate children abroad from his many trips, especially the Thailand

He says they keep correspondence with him. He also claims that his son in Ghana is a respected lawyer Supposedly yeah that he was is not true. We know that he did go to Ghana It was all for work and you like he did travel around various things for work for the concrete and steel companies Yeah work for and but then but there's no way he wasn't doing sex tourism at the same time Oh, of course! He was doing sex tourism at home! The entire time, yes But the best part is I just gotta go downstairs! Don't hassle me, I'm local

Oh my gosh. Anyone in Ghana or Thailand with a pencil, pen mustache, he might be a Fretzel. He also called that guy who killed all the people, killed the woman. He called him a helpful nice guy. Yeah. He loves that guy and he says he's super popular in prison, but he can't walk around because people hound him to want him to talk. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. He's just so popular. What is he fucking busy? Talk to him. Now he says he's busy. He gets up every day. He has his fitness regimen that he does every single day where he, he doesn't need a walker, even though they've been forcing them to use one, man. It must be stream prisons must be kind of nice because this guy is he gets a garden

He gardens he gets to make his own meals. They have a communal kitchen where they make meals and pastries together That's the one thing he doesn't like to eat because he's watching his figure and they which is all that's all real And so they it's just it seems really nice. Yeah. Yeah, but it does reports to the contrary They're far more credible like it seems like people want to kill him Oh, I'm gonna want to come and he's in he's in solitary confinement most of the time for his own safety The second he is in general gen pop someone's gonna fuck someone already did beat him up Oh, he was he was attacked very badly once in the shower where he the same thing They mashed up his face. They did a bunch of bad shit to him and now he just forever just kind of went

back into solitary confinement. Yeah and concerning Elizabeth and her kids they were settled in an unnamed rural Austrian village where they are fiercely protected from outsiders by their fellow villagers no one knows where they actually are. As far as I know no picture has ever been taken of Elizabeth or any of her so-called downstairs children. As for Joseph Fritzl, his unprecedented criminal energy, as the Austrians put it in their sentencing, means that there is absolutely no way he will ever be released, even though he is eligible for parole this year. Now, a thing that's important you remember this is what the lawyer, his lawyer reminds us

all of. And I want you to think about this in terms of this. Who's the new chick? Yeah. I can already hear them shouting their phrases of how a lifelong sentence must stay lifelong. Those who condemn my wanting to understand the darker sides of the human soul, to them I'd like to say to their face, keep me from judging a person before I've walked a mile in his moccasins. Moccasins?

There's no moccasins in Austria! What? She ended it with a racist statement! You know what? Fine, he can go live with you. Yeah, yeah, have Joseph Fredt to live in your fucking house. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him.

I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let him. She ended it with a racist statement! You know what? Fine, he can go live with you. Yeah, yeah, have Joseph Fritzl live in your fucking upstairs apartment. Well, Joseph Fritzl has been in prison for just a fraction of the time that he imprisoned Elizabeth, and unless he lives to be 97 years old, Joseph Fritzl won't even come close to the sentence he imposed on his daughter.

But unlike Elizabeth, Fritzl will most likely die alone in a prison cell as one of the most hated and reviled men of the 21st century. Well, I hope that we did our part in rehabilitating his image. Because that's such a hard burden to live with. Yeah, well, we have muppetized him. Yeah, you turned him into Grover. But you know, honestly, he could never turn himself into Grover and that was the problem. Yeah, he's more of an Oscar the Grouch.

Oh, he's a Grouch the Grouch. No, no, no, I tell you that. And more like Mr. Groper. Yeah. He seems more of a snuffleupercase. Oh, yeah in appearance Yeah, he would have if we were to made a movie would have been a snuffle uppercase film a stuff film Disgusting at your end. I come slash last podcast on the left Entire series about a single tasteless joke

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I find spooky- It's gonna be real life again. I feel like this is spookier than ever. Okay, yeah, so he's, guess, Arnold Schwarzenegger's number 57 is Hitler on this list. Oh. So, so Arnold's right between Shia LaBeouf and Robert Downey Jr. Interesting. I would have never, I, this is a flood list. I don't even want to get into this. If you're around in Los Angeles on Sunday, October 13th, I'm going to be doing a forest

firefighter benefit. Again, don't bring your fucking wives to that shit because yeah, these guys are fucking hot, but I think they're busy right now um yeah they're not coming to the comedy show yeah so it's a night of comedy and country music at scribble in hyland park that's october 13th come check it out if you want to get tickets it is on eddy tunes.com all right whoa imdb pro won't let me look up all right adolf hitler wow his star meter is 8 766 look at let me look in art Adolf Hitler. Wow his star meter is 8,766 look at let me look at our old Schwarzenegger for the final answer. He's 57

Wow, I guess yeah And I want to say eight thousand spaces higher he legitimately Schwarzenegger is officially more popular than Adolf Yeah, that's the big question. Alright so he's at 8,606. I am at... Oh this is great drumroll. I can't wait for this. Henry funnier than Hitler. More popular. He's not he's not all I can tell his clothes. I can tell as close as you think conclusive Date of his in conclusion I know I'm just seeing the results Inclusive yeah, that's too bad. I'm just gonna hide that score like I had my other daughter

Hell Satan a-hacking I'm not no there's nothing just like Schwarzenegger