Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 615: The Montauk Project Part I - The Truth Behind The Truth Behind The Lies

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

This week the boys break out the tin foil hats and venture deep into the world of Conspiracy Theory with a tale that connects the dots between WWII, The Philadelphia Experiment, Deep Underground Military Bases, Alien Experimentation, Militarized Psychics, Time Travel, Nazi Gold... and that’s just the beginning of The Montauk Project. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

There's no place to escape to this is the last on the left That's when the cannibalism started No, I have a whole theory about where do you think the Montauk boys I have a whole theory about where do you think the Montauk boys Degeneration alpha There's a little Nazi train boys Time traveling into the past time traveling into the future. He is more the Nazis than alpha I'm just saying the broccoli head boys. Why do you think they had some stupid haircuts? It allows them to travel through time Oh, you think the broccoli hair like resists the the time juice

Have you said any of you done any sort of first of all fuck you Second of all, I'm here with an open mind man. Have you done any sort of research into Tesla coils Tesla coils? What do you think broccoli? You know what a broccoli hair cut is? I went to the observatory I watched a Tesla coil Do you understand what a broccoli haircut is? Yeah a bunch of Tesla coils on top of their well groomed Nazi head like yahoo serious. Yes Okay, now you're really getting it welcome last podcast on the left ladies and gentlemen, I am Marcus Parks I'm here with Henry Zabrowski Here is I'm a Montauk boy expert. I bet you I

Walked the streets of Montaukk I could tell you every kind of boy That's your stick ball boy, that's your boy. That's fucking at the age of 12 That's your boy that is gonna go on to become the new the situation and meaning that he's gonna cause a situation Yeah at a public grocery store now is this because on the way to Camp hero on the road, as you're driving there, you will pass Hank, some browse key Memorial field. I don't know where my father was during the sixties. He won't answer my questions. My father won't tell me what he was doing. I'm on talk. Why there was a Memorial field dedicated to him there. I think the way to, I think it's dedicated to you. I think if time travels real and you're involved with the fucking CIA like we always claimed you were I'm in the NSA and

You're in all of it, baby. I feel like all of this is I'm seeing it all flooding back Yeah, and I might have been divided into two different realities and maybe that's one reality where I'm some shit Fuck fat face in Long Island getting a Memorial field based upon me because I got shot in the bank or I think so Or and then the other half of me is here living this incredible Hollywood life Wow. Yeah, that's why I'm so tired That's exactly why you're so tired. And of course we have with us the open-minded ed larson very open-minded this week i'm here to learn, you know, i'm gonna ask some questions, but I am gonna Try to accept the answers

All we ask is that you try that's all we ask very good. This is an important chapter In conspiracy theory history. We're talking about the montauk Project today. This is a very important chapter. This is something that we've been wanting to cover for a very, very long time. We weren't quite ready yet, but I think now we finally got the chops to do it. We got the juice for it. Oh, yeah. This is the bullshit noise that is technically that strings the Philadelphia experiment MK Holter all of it together in one big old fun conspiracy suit.

Yeah, I mean at its core the Montauk Project is what happens when you take a handful of the great conspiracy theories of the 20th century from MK Ultra to alien collaborations with America to secret government time travel experiments and you put them all into one building in Long Island. Some of you may already know that the story of the Montauk project was very loosely adapted into the Netflix show Stranger Things. In fact the original pitch for Stranger Things was a found footage project called Montauk. But while Stranger Things is admittedly a delightful show and quite light-hearted, the

actual story of the Montauk project, or at least the story that has been presented to the world, is far darker and far more unbelievable. Although you will notice similarities here and there. As Henry put it to me, the Montauk Project is, in essence, the story of alien tech stolen by the Nazis to create a nation of time traveling boys. Mwah! Exactly! And that's what we all are looking for.

That however is only part of the tale here. The story goes that between 1943 and 1984, the Montauk Project also conducted experiments that brought fearsome beasts into our reality from the plains beyond, using psychics, kidnapped children, William Reich's organ energies, the Antichrist, and the actor Mark Hamill. Who is still trying to fight to get his way out of this story. But as far as what the goal of the Montauk Project was, it mainly focused on unlocking the farthest reaches of human potential by developing our psychic abilities via alien tech.

And it was the development of those abilities that led to all the time travel and monster manifestation. And it led to the scariest, funkiest lounge chair to ever exist. The Montauk chair. Oh, we'll get to it. But this story in essence, really, we have to remember, every single corner of this story

takes place in beautiful Long Island. Yes. And remember every single corner of the story takes place in beautiful long Island. Yes. And that every end of it, Oh man, the very end of it, tip of the Dick. This is where Billy Joel watches over everyone. Everyone. It's, it's all celebrities now. Oh yes. Sure. Sure. Sure. Like Baldwin, Steven Spielberg's got a compound out there. All right. Alec Baldwin. Just be careful around there Don't try to shoot a Western around there He's on the softball team. Did you know that? And this is but just remember I think a lot of what comes out of the story and why we are so obsessed with

The story is I dare you to have a building in Long Island and tell a bunch of Long Islanders that they can't go in it. And what they do, and they go, oh, you mean tell me? Oh, I can't go fucking in there? There's nothing, oh, there's nothing for me to see, huh? Nothing for White Pie Tony to see? You know what I mean? Like, yes.

Unfortunately, sometimes, I know, Tony, you do know everybody's business in Franklin Square, but not Not in this one square. Yeah, and in this little building when you tell them you can't go in there The people of Long Island started to create a story around this location. Yeah on Montauk Point Well, they're barely telling them they can't go in there. It's a six-foot fence. You can get in there. Hey, to White Pie Tony... I am too much pasta for Zulu to see if I can't get over a six-foot fence. White Pie Tony can't get out of a lawn chair.

You know, like, it's very difficult. I don't understand. Why don't these conspiracy theories just come to me? Since the Montauk project is such a hodgepodge of so many conspiracy theories, it can not surprisingly turn into a confusing labyrinth of pseudoscience and dead-end narratives quite quickly. Almost immediately. Additionally, the men who tell the story about the Montauk Project are, simply put, liars of the highest degree.

Pathological even some of the claims they make about both the project and their personal lives are either impossible or so easily disproved but they've built it all into the storytelling yeah the co-author of the definitive book on the Montauk project he totally copps to this his name is Peter Moon and he says that his book, also named the Montauk Project, is not necessarily 100% true. See? See?

That's just because some of its information is based on intuition, psychic readings, and the channeling of various alien entities. Peter Moon, however, does go on to say that if at least part of his claims weren't true, then the mainstream media wouldn't have spent so many years not covering his book. Like Lorcas here. Like what Lorcas is doing. Lorcas is already shutting down the valve of information as we even fucking go. You tell me I'm the work?

I'm covering the book. I'm doing it, man. I'm putting it out there. But in the conspiracy theorist mind, not covering the book is tantamount to actively suppressing the information contained therein who published the book I believe it was him One might have been like pretty legit might have been something like Pegasus press Like I mean legit in the fact that he I don't know if he had to put up his own money to put it out I don't think it was it wasn't a vanity pressing. I know that for sure. Yes sky books. I'm certain

Yeah, that was out there. That was like one of those small I think they I think it's the same imprint to put out behold the pale horse cool I think so well, I love to meet that fucked up editor Peer moon on one phone call got Bill Cooper on the other. How is the grammar in the book? Uh, it's fine. Yeah, well, it's like a finely written book. I just want to check. Yeah, it's good enough. It's definitely good enough.

But, D, I, you forget, Marcus, is that you're not giving them the credit of the fact that every single time that they were engaged in work on the Montauk project, they were being bombarded with hypnotic messaging from powerful radars that were being manned by boy psychics. Yeah, I am forgetting that. You're forgetting that and every single time you do, I'm going to put your ass right in the fucking corner. Oh, and I think it's interesting that a man named Peter Moon shows his ass so often. Hey, that's when, that was, he came from a lineage of fellow ass showers. But Peter Moon brought the story of the Montauk Project to the world with his 1992 book of the same name, which was co-written with a whistleblower who supposedly worked on the

inside of the Montauk Project as a scientist for well over a decade. These two men claimed that after they began publishing in the early 90s, because the Montauk Project as a scientist for well over a decade. These two men claimed that after they began publishing in the early 90s, because the Montauk Project was just one book amongst a series of books, including pyramids of the Montauk, I believe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is again just white Tony's back. White pie Tony's back is covered with a lot of Montauk pyramids. I usually get the red sauce, but it's starting to give me hot burns. Yeah, so I gotta do it.

Now I take it anally. Well, after they began publishing in the early 90s, these two men claimed to have been contacted by a multitude of people who worked on the Montauk project itself. People who have confirmed, Peter Moon said, that everything written in the book is true, even though Peter said himself that everything written in the book is true, even though Peter said himself

that not everything in the book is true. But Peter Moon is comfortable living with these contradictions, because for him, reality is highly malleable for everyone. In fact, he says that as a general rule, if you think that you've been involved in a space-time project, then you probably have. Because the entire universe is, after all, a space-time project in itself. That explains all my shit with Obama and being with him having lunch on Saturn.

Because Barack Obama comes into this later on. Oh, thank God. He comes in later. This also connects Project Serpo. It does connect to Project Serpo, yes. And the secret space program. Barack Obama on Mars and John Titor as well. Yeah, oh yeah, it all connects.

That makes it real. Yeah. What is Project Serpo? Project Serpo is an exchange between us and a race of aliens that we met on a planet called Serpo. They called it Serpo and we did an astronaut exchange Oh, okay through the same mechanisms that allow them to travel through time and space hold on so aliens Call their astronauts astronauts as well

No, we call them astronauts to make them feel better about having aliens aliens or astronauts. Yeah, technically fuck Was an alien on the moon. Put that in your fucking bong and smoke it. Goddamn! I can feel your mind opening. You gotta understand, dude. We already have been the aliens, man. I'm gonna fucking run some mind control on myself for next week.

This is gonna be great. I'm coming in fucked up. He's just gonna be doing it. It's called Whippets. He's just gonna be doing it. It's called whippets. He's just gonna be putting a plastic bag over his head to play the pass out game. Are you telling me that the fucking man on the moon was inside the moon? That he was in the bunker? Exactly.

But at the end of the day, the Montauk Project is still a classic old school conspiracy theory that folds in all the old favorites like the Philadelphia experiment, the reptilians, and Nazis. And that's in addition to its own swerves like time traveling chairs and murderous monsters born from the human subconscious. And so let's get into the Montauk project by starting at its location, Montauk Point, located on the easternmost end of Long Island in New York State. Now supposedly, and I'm gonna be using that word a lot today.

Well, you know, it's a thought experiment. I counted it, I think in my script, the word supposedly is used 29 times. I think that you need to delete it, bro, and just understand that this is concrete reality, dawg. There could be a couple of allegedlys in there. No, that's the thing. It's not even counting the allegedlys. But supposedly, a lighthouse was constructed at Montauk Point specifically on the orders

of George Washington and Alexander Hamilton in 1792 through an act of Congress. The co-authors of the Montauk Project point towards the construction of this lighthouse as proof that the idea of doing clandestine scientific research at Montauk Point was something that has been planned since the founding of our country, but it only came to pass starting in the 1940s. I'm only gonna give a little bit of pushback here, only because a lighthouse is something that you can immediately see so does it really make any sense? It's like it's just marking it. It's just like hey guys if you want to do clandestine scientific research sometime in the future this country

This is a good place for it. That's actually the opposite of what you want to do with a clandestine Research facility you don't want to put anything that has any sort of like It also you know has nothing to do with the fact that it's the closest point of the United States to England. And the Nazis. And there's a giant sandbar that goes out a hundred yards that could make any ship run ashore. Whoa, cool. But that's just part of it. That's part of it. That's a happy accident.

That's a happy coincidence. When they start digging. 1792. That's why they got seven floors. That's why the Montauk Project had seven basements. Seven basements underground. Just west of Montauk Point is Camp Hero State Park, which until 1981 was an Air Force base called Fort Hero.

As far as why Fort Hero was built in this spot specifically, it was believed that if the Germans had decided to invade the United States during World War II, Montauk was a likely invasion point. So, to protect from invasion, we built army, navy, air force, and coast guard installations at Camp Hero, then disguised the entire base to look like a New England fishing village by painting windows on the concrete bunkers and putting ornamental roofs on the barracks to fool possible German spies. But it didn't because there were Nazi spies that landed on the beach in Montauk. Oh, yeah. And then eventually went through the Long Island Railroad to the city and got caught in D.C.

It's just such a funny idea of Nazi spies in Long Island just being like, hey, what you doing, nice pointy hat. Hey, what you doing, huh? Oh, hey, whoa. Just like, yelling and being like, you're Nazi. This is white. Don't fuck with New Yorkers and Nazis. All right, Long Islanders hate Nazis. They really do. Even if they're racist, they'd still hate Nazis.

It's funny. I mean, the largest Nazi rally in American history was held at Madison Square Garden Yeah, technically not on Long Island and that was booked from outside of town And there was just another one there last year. Oh, I remember. Yeah. Yeah Oh, yeah, now the military base story is reasonable But the authors of the Montauk project Maintained that Fort hero was never just a simple outpost for protecting us from the Germans or testing torpedoes like the government wants you to believe.

Mouse thinking, not giant thinking. Mouse thinking? That's a new one. That's a new one for me. Baby thinking, baby mouse thinking. Small fries here. Oh jeez. As do I.

Instead, Fort Hero, prior to being the site of the Montauk Project, was also where some of the most infamous alleged military experiments in history took place, like the Phoenix Project and the Philadelphia Experiment. So before we get into the Montauk Project proper, let's cover the operations that supposedly led to the project's foundings. Operations that laid the groundwork for the secret government time travel mind control experiments that came to define the conspiracy.

Yeah, man, because that's the thing. What they discovered was awesome about all of this shit, right? Is that they all failed their way to something dumber. Yeah, every single project was supposed to do one thing and then it just did something else and then they just kept giving them money To fuck up because it seems like he was government on some level in this version of reality or all like yeah Make it invisible. What did you do?

Great, let's make two-headed guys This is the best way to make two-headed guys Shit, I didn't even know I wanted to make two-headed guys. Yeah, it literally sounds like a 12-year-old being like, I have an invisible battleship. That's amazing. That's fucking, guess what? I believe you because I can't see it. Fly from your grave.

So the Phoenix Project started way back in the 1940s as a simple weather control program. Simple! Phoenix Project was the antecedent to all the projects to come. Eventually though, the Phoenix Project expanded into mind-reading technology, and all of it was made possible because of the work done by the infamous Austrian pseudoscientist Wilhelm Reich. Can we even just cut the scientist out of it? Pseudoscientist. He is definitely a pseudoscientist.

Yeah. He's still out there. I was just watching a sub stack of all of his, like, there's a whole thing still of getting rid of muscle armoring. Yeah. I mean, we've always wanted to do a full segment on Wilhelm Reich, and this seems like a good opportunity to do it. Because Reich's sideways views on science

is the ship that launched a thousand crackpots. Because his theories can sound good if they hit your ear the right way, even if they have very little basis in scientific fact. Basically, Wilhelm Reich had the theory that sexual energies, or organ energy, as he called it, they could be harnessed and used in everything from cancer treatment to weather control And there are still plenty of people who thought he was on to something

Oh, yeah, that's right. Like every once in a while, which is really nice They send a young young lady to these various It's any of these brand new experimental hospitals that I've been seeing using his teachings and they just have the experimental hospitals Yes, they have the young lady splat all over the faces of children with cancer Yeah, and it just kind of makes him forget that yeah for a little bit. They feel a little better And they're like no it's squirt it's Oregon Yep. Thank you concentrated Oregon. That's what the scientist says William Wright also says that the Wilhelm Reich says that our energies are like an earthworm crawling through our bodies and that we have to unleash the

Hardened rings of our earthworm emotional selves in order to get her calm energy to our brain Can anyone be a pseudoscientist? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you could be one. You come up with a good pseudoscientific theory. You could be one next week. Fuck yeah. Yeah, no, we're gonna do it. Oh yeah. Well, let's briefly get into the actual history of Wilhelm Reich, because his work on Oregon energy supposedly laid the bedrock for the Phoenix Project, which in turn supposedly formed the basis for the Montauk Project. Oh, definitely did. You can take this supposedly out of that one.

In this world. In this world. Yeah. Now, Wilhelm Reich began his career as an Austrian psychoanalyst who studied under Sigmund Freud, and as we all know, Freud had quite a bit to say about sex and its connection to humanity. But since sex was very much the basis of Reich's work, Freud would warn Reich against having sexual relationships with his patients.

Reich of course did not listen and had four of them. One relationship in fact turned into a marriage, and his wife eventually became a psychoanalyst herself. Don't worry my sweet young wife, when I lay down with you in our marriage bed, my humping, it will educate you to the ability to heal others. Oh psycho villain! You seem saddened in today's session.

Would you like a helping of my ball soup? Would that help you very much? If I gave you a bit of a tug on your nip? I just think it's wonderful that a story about liars from Long Island starts with sex. It does! Hey! German sex! Oh yeah.

Now, by the early 20s, Reich was publishing articles in Germany about the idea of quote orgiastic potency, which was the ability to release emotions from muscles by losing yourself in an uninhibited orgasm. Muscles was a really big thing with Wilhelm Reich. Muscles. By the 30s, he'd even registered as a communist because he believed that there was a link between sexual and economic oppression. That all went south, however, when Hitler came to power in the 1930s.

Figuring that Hitler's Germany wasn't the place for a swinging sexual communist, Reich left his wife and fled to Denmark with his girlfriend in 1933 when Hitler became Chancellor. That's fucking brutal, dude. Yeah. Have fun in Nazi Germany! I'm gonna go fuck professionally. From there, Reich made his way to Sweden, which he described as, quote, better than a concentration camp.

I mean, yeah, yeah, he's right. Definitely is, yeah. Most places are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Reich, however, met resistance in Sweden as well. See, Reich was meeting his patients

for their hour-long visits in his hotel room, which led local police to believe that Reich was a pimp turning out his girlfriend to a never-ending string of Swedish neurotics. By 1934, Reich had moved on to Norway, where he attempted to combine his psychological theories about orgasms with biology by exploring Freud's metaphor of the libido being an electrical or chemical substance. Freud's metaphor of the libido being an electrical or chemical substance. Now Freud had himself abandon this theory 40 years earlier, but that didn't stop Wilhelm Reich from taking Freud literally. This is one of those instances that just because someone is trained by the top minds of their

field in a specific time period doesn't necessarily mean it always takes. No! No, no, no. Just because somebody has a degree or a doctorate does not necessarily mean that they are an intelligent person that you should listen to what they have to say There's a part of that that inspires me Doctors got C. Oh, yeah, I'm got D's Yeah, there's always the bottom of the class there's always you know everyone talks about I was the third in my class There's also like second to bottom. Oh, yeah, and those are the guys working on you like you're a

horse. Those are the guys like let's check the hoofs. I was turd in my class. Ryke began performing experiments by attaching a device that recorded the oscillations of electrical currents to his friends. Then he would direct those friends to kiss and touch each other so he could take readings. Now play with the bottom of your titties. Very good. The dials are going crazy. And now play, oh, ha ha ha. Let's see the feet.

Let's see, oh, ha ha ha, yes, suck on his feet. Very good. From those readings, Ryke began to deduce that there was some actual separate sexual energy at play here. A heretofore unknown energy. Reich spent years doing various experiments along these lines in Norway, but by 1938, Reich had made his way to the big time, the United States of America. Within a year, Reich announced that he had discovered the very biological cosmic energy

that Freud had touched upon in his own studies of human sexuality decades previous. Reich dubbed his discovery, Orgon Energy, and he soon after opened a new branch of science called Orgonomy to study it. I love folding paper. It's not great for podcasts. No, it's not. No, it's just sounds are horrible. But you know, if you guys want to fold some paper, I'll fold some paper.

He loves it. Anything you can smoke. He'll put it right in his mouth. Do you think that there's any comparison or any... Do you think that he was inspired at all by... You said you think? No! Do you think that he was inspired by Vril Energy at all? Vril Energy? I don't think so, because real energy was very much a more of a Nazi thing I'm just saying I wonder if he got any of that reading too cuz like he may have it's quite possible the idea of sloshing around

Energies was a big thing inside of Germany. Yeah, I think he may have had some influence But you know he wanted to take it his own direction. He was very horny. Super horny. There's nothing horny about real energy. No, it's all about beating other races at the Olympics. Now, all this sounds pretty goofy, and it is, but Wilhelm Reich took it extremely seriously. And once he got infected by the American entrepreneurial spirit, his experiments around Oregon energy became quite intense, even though he didn't have a license to practice medicine

in the United States. That's a real fucking American. He showed up, he got rid of that European fucking garbage and understood it is better sometimes to ask for forgiveness rather than ask for permission. Ehhhh, I'm a doctor. That's how you know. After finding out all he could by experimenting on animals, Reich moved on to experiments on humans in his basement.

There he would enclose nude test subjects in five foot tall plywood boxes lined with rock wool and sheet iron. These were materials that were meant to concentrate the Oregon energies. I hope you guys are ready to get horny. I'm going to be hitting the nails a bit harder for a little while. OK, but you just stay here. Be naked. Horny. Avoid splinters at all costs,

because that seems to really affect the horny readings. Right now, I'm not horny. Aye, very good. Honestly, I like you at the zero. We need to build layers of horniness. I feel like I'm getting less horny. Very good. Interesting. I thought getting naked would make me more horny, but now I'm just scared and afraid. Isn't that-

Which I know means the same thing, but I'm both. Isn't it clever of me? Scared afraid which I know means the same thing, but I'm both Basically these boxes were sort of Faraday cage which Faraday cages are normally used to block Electromagnetic fields right however called his boxes organ accumulators right claimed that an Organ accumulator could grab the organ out of the air because the organ is around us at all times. Clouds fuck.

Yeah, and it could transfer the organ to the nude test subject in a concentrated dose all while he sat nude in the box. He or she, of course. Well cumulators. Are you cumming yet? I'm cumming later. Are you holding it? Do you want. I'm coming later. Are you holding me yet? Do you want me to poke some holes in the box? Well, it was Reich's theory that bombarding the box with

organ energy could kill cancer and cure schizophrenia, amongst other things, and he used these boxes on hundreds of subjects over the years. Now, despite heavy criticism from the scientific community, and I do mean heavy criticism. Why scientific community, and I do mean heavy criticism.

Why? He was a doctor. Everyone likes to say quote unquote doctor. Wright continued his research on organ energy, but eventually went too far when he opened the Organomic Infant Research Center in 1950. The OIRC, as it was called, aimed at preventing, quote, muscular armoring in children from birth. Yes.

Orgon energy, of course, was supposed to prevent so-called muscular armoring, which was bad. It's bad. And I suppose had something to do with negative feelings getting stuck in the muscles. How dare you say something so simple? Yes, it is that. I've read so much stuff.

There is a certain position, they call it the right position. I can't do it here, obviously. Because you have to have sex with a baby? That's called the ending. You have to start in a position, you lay on your back, right? And then muscle armoring means that, yes,

your negative energies make your muscles tense. And you can do a series of very hidden proprietary breathing and muscle exercises that relinquish each ring of muscles to allow again the cum energy to go from your pussy or balls to your Spiritual center in your brain not just there but also the organ energy is around us all the time Yes, we can and in the soil need to get with Faraday cages though. That's the problem is that you have to then yourself have a Faraday cage and an organ accumulator and you then have to be horny.

Yeah. And it helps you do butt kegels. Go ahead, that's the only thing that allows me to get my butthole tighter. You know what those are called? What? Bagels. Funny enough.

Ha ha ha. But the problem with combining children with research that focuses on sexual energies, it tends to bring out the perverts when you start advertising for job opportunities in the paper. Honestly, I was looking at this the classifieds for weeks and I just want to say thank you so much for the opportunity. I actually have a lot of experience in this field.

I've made a lot of babies nervous. I've made a lot of children scream. Is there any way I can get in there because my family's sick and tired of me Looking for single white male big babies horny Actually, it's kind of my special That's the thing while nobody had any allegations against Reich himself many people later reported sexual assaults at Reich's Research Center self, many people later reported sexual assaults at Reich's research center, sexual assaults that were perpetrated by Reich's employees.

That's called se-process. See Reich formed a team of 30 therapists who would stand before naked children in Reich's basement, all while Reich described each child's so-called blockages. That kid's got the fat belly, he's bad at baseball, he can't skate, he can't ride the bike, he's a bad singer. That kid is too serious for his own good. And as you can see, Zisbon loves cake too much. Oh I like a little chubby, oh I like a chubby belly, he must be cut off.

Well, Reich then instructed these therapists in what he called Vegito therapy, which involved, among other things, massaging the children. I'll be right back, actually, for that. I brought my own oil. Reich's institute, however, lasted for a surprisingly long period, two years. Oh, wow, yeah. But it was finally shut down after a parent reported that one of Reich's therapists had taught her five-year-old son How to masturbate and the charges were only dropped after Reich agreed to shutter the Institute's doors

Maybe we need to slow down the research Imagine like if I knew how to masturbate at five, I'd be a useless human being What yeah at five yeah, I went real early that's five's early I figured it out I'd be a useless human being. That was not when I started though. What? Yeah. At five? Yeah, I went real early. At five's early? I figured it out, yeah.

That's crazy. Boyle figured it out. You don't need to teach a boy. A boy's got all he needs is his hands, his penis, and a couple of TV guts. He doesn't need a William Reich. He doesn't need an instructor. I mean, William Reich did have his boys and his therapist to help out. And by the way, the Sean Connery joke from Celebrity Jeopardy saying the therapists are

the rapists really works here. It does. It really does. It does. Appreciate it. Well, eventually, the people who took Reich down for good were the FDA because they began taking issue with all the bogus claims Reich was making about his Oregon accumulators. Turns out, no proof

they actually worked. Reich in turn accused the FDA of being government hoodlums, and he was soon after arrested for violating an order to not ship a organ accumulators or their parts across state lines. Wilhelm Reich was therefore sentenced to two years in prison and actually died in Lewisburg federal penitentiary in 1957 from a heart attack. Yes. The home of the rape therapist. It's kind of funny because, you know, a lot of people were inspired by him,

but I actually didn't know he died in prison. He died in prison. Yeah. It seems to be, to me, I feel like that would be a black mark on the research history. It usually is, but the problem is that Wilhelm Reich lives on the fringes, and people who live on the fringes,

you know, stuff like this is a badge of honor. Oh, yeah. And it also, the stuff about Wilhelm Reich, look, it really does go back into the idea of conspiracy theory and distrusting the government and all that shit, because these people that believe in Wilhelm Reich's theories, they're often the same type of people

who don't believe in vaccines. Oh, buddy, there. And they can point towards the FDA as, look, at this evil, this evil branch of government. They went in and they destroyed this good man who was just trying to make our babies horny and healthy. That's it. All the baby want, all he wanted was the baby to get super horny so you can give it the power to time travel. Yeah.

He was the inventor of the Wilhelm cream. He was the inventor of the Wilhelm cream. Ah! Ah! The Wilhelm cream is, uh, was actually what they first used to help the children learn how to masturbate. Oh, yeah. There's a bunch of kids going, ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! It is rough. I see what you're saying, too, because you're, it's the truth. He's a, it's hard. Everybody kind of took it around with it Oh where we're at right now and American history and world history when it comes to all this shit Like this is stuff that's been accumulating

Excuse the term but it's been accumulating for decades upon decades upon decades damn near century Now literally I just typed in Wilhelm Reich processes and the amount of current substacks of people actively teaching Reik's stuff in 2025 is very interesting and it just shows we just are, we're still in it. Yeah. It's what, 75 years later? Yeah. But despite Wilhelm's claims that the government was out to get him because of his Oregon accumulators,

it is said that the Phoenix Project, the antecedent to the Montauk Project, they used Wilhelm Reich's theories about Orgon as the basis for weather manipulation, amongst other things. According to Reich, the other side of Orgon energy is that it was also responsible for bad weather. Dead Orgon was said to be found in thunderstorms and hurricanes. And in the 40s, Reich supposedly invented a device called a cloudbuster that could either build up Orgon energy in the air or disrupt Dead Orgon through broadcast. And broadcast is going to be a very important thing for the Montauk Project.

Oh yes, it is the most radar-based thing possible. The theory goes that project Phoenix was partly about controlling the weather using Reich's organ technology Now according to our whistleblowers Reich's technology actually worked But the government abandoned the project because it would open them up to lawsuits if their ability to control the weather was made public Who's gonna fucking sue them? Is the weather gonna sue them? No, people whose buildings are destroyed by thunderstorms that were possibly, you know, created by the government. When has the government fucking cared about that ever once? They really don't.

They don't give a shit about that. If they wanted to control the weather, they definitely would. Yes, and it wouldn't be this bad no Well, you know they did talk about that we might actually though have an earthquake weapon Oh, there is some talk that we might have an earthquake weapon, but it's very different It literally has to be like drilled into the ground took a whole thing that it's Kwame from Captain Planet Yes Was that the woman though? He that it's Kwame from Captain Planet yes Was that the woman though? He's heart no Kwame was the was the guy with the African guy right yeah

Was the other one that would be a boc to know it were incorrect absolutely not Richard Richard yeah, Richard at Mati Guess what heart didn't do jack shit Mati yeah Mike totally crazy, I thought there was some truth to cloud busting yeah, maybe I mean cloud seeding Yeah, you know they do that with kind of when in all of the weird chemtrail conspiracy theories There's a lot of weather manipulation in that too we do have we can make rain we can make rain we could do but I feel like I don't know if we can though yes we can climb over Los Angeles because I think it's extremely unpredictable and it fucks with weather patterns and I think that's why they don't do it I think it's also

really expensive as well I imagine and imagine also it might like poison us over time. Maybe. Who knows? Side stories, lpotl.gmail.com. Cause that it's actually, there is a whole world of legit weather manipulation that's been around. It's just what,

that's the fun thing about conspiracy theory is that stuff like this really does cloud effectively stuff that might actually be real. That's why they like these being out on the internet. Yeah. You sound like a nimbus right now. Tell me that. You bet you I'm gonna cumulus all over your fucking forehead, buddy.

But weather control was not the only goal behind Project Phoenix. See while Reich had fled Germany to avoid Nazi persecution, the US government, during Project Phoenix, allegedly combined his Orgon technology with Nazi psychological research to develop psychic computers. Wow, yeah! As to what a psychic computer is. Yeah, what is it?

AI. No, no, no, a psychic computer. This is totally different from AI, you fucking Christ, man. Jesus fucking Christ. Totally different totally different from AI fucking Christ Well psychic computer Peter Moon claimed that sensor technology was developed in the 50s that could use a computer to display what a person was thinking on a mind-reading machine. It was said that Congress, however, once again got cold feet. Supposedly, they were afraid that the psychic computers could be used to control congressmen, so they shut down this portion of Project Phoenix as well.

The man allegedly behind the Phoenix Project was a Hungarian scientist named Dr. John von Neumann. Von Neumann was actually a very real mathematician, one of the most well-respected and accomplished in history. He contributed to the development of quantum physics, digital computers, a big part of the Manhattan Project. And I invented the yo-yo Get out of here dr. Von Don Moimman

You want to taste so this conspiracy is already sullying this incredible mind and you want to sully him even further by claiming He invented the yo-yo. I will say anything I want about that fucking piece of shit Claiming he invented the yo-yo. I will say anything I want about that fucking piece of shit Attack him wholeheartedly and I hate him and I hate his family and I wish I could dig up his grave play with his bones You can it's just could put you in prison. Hey, you know, maybe I want to go three hats in a cot But according to author Peter Moon Dr. John von Neumann was also one of the minds behind the Phoenix Project, and the government therefore brought back Dr. von Neumann and the rest of his team to Montauk Point when the next big military experiment was cooked up in the late 40s.

The next iteration was known as Project Rainbow, but some of you might know it better as the Philadelphia experiment. Yeah! It took place in Montauk, on the very spot where the Montauk project would also be developed. Now the Philadelphia experiment was an alleged top secret World War II era project that had the initial goal of rendering a battleship invisible to enemy radar by creating an electromagnetic bottle that diverted radar waves around the ship. Which sounds fairly reasonable. It sounds like that could be a thing that might be done.

Possible. But it's, you know, apparently it's very difficult and it turns you into a bunch of jello. Well, according to the legend, the Philadelphia experiment went awry when the battleship used in the experiment, the USS Eldridge, turned invisible, then suddenly reappeared in Norfolk, Virginia, 600 miles south of Montauk Point. And we also have a whole series on this from many years ago, but we covered this very thickly. Technically, that's what's awesome about our lives and how long we've been doing this, is that that series connects to to this series which MK Ultra lies on top of it JFK is right after it. Well supposedly the surviving crew on board the Eldridge were found at best confused and disoriented. At worst some sailors found themselves fused into the bulkheads of the ship itself as a

result of the unintended consequence of teleportation. Well, you know that Nikola Tesla was told ahead of time by the aliens that he was conversing with that when he was working on the Philadelphia experiment that they said that they would kill the Participants in the experiment so Nikola Tesla on the first one of the Philadelphia experiment actually threw it So it wouldn't work because he knew that the aliens would be mad about it And so then Nicholas Nikola Tesla instead of getting fired He said I quit Nikola Tesla in the in the year 1943. Yep How is he there? He was there

spiritually Time is nonlinear He worked on the first Philadelphia experiment. When was that before this one? 1776 The results of that Well as for the sailors who were just confused You just gonna move on huh? Yeah, of course

Well, you're the one you interrupted me right in the middle before we get are there any pictures of this like what? Because I pictures of what the invisible battleship This like what because I have pictures of what the invisible battleship No, that would be just that's evidence, okay But that would be bad for the government to have so that's why I destroyed it What about those those soldiers and they had their families most of them died a year after the Philadelphia experiment effects for those that went On to work on the Montauk. Is that true? Yes Well as for those who were just confused and disoriented He was in Long Island. Nikola Tesla went to Long Island fine

It's not fucking tora Bora in Long Island, it's right next to New York City Brooklyn is technically Long Island It's technically Long Island. Ugh. Sorry, Ryan. Well, as for the sailors who were just confused and disoriented as a result of the Philadelphia experiment, many had to be discharged from service and rehabilitated because the experience was so traumatic, and it's said that most never recovered from the total mental breakdown that the experiment caused. Officially, Project Rainbow was halted after this supposed accident, but according to Peter Moon, the Philadelphia experiment was only the beginning of what went on at Montauk Point.

Supposedly, Dr. Von Neumann and his team spent 10 years studying the effects that the Philadelphia experiment had on human bodies, and specifically, the human brain. Eventually, it's said that they learned that humans are born with a time reference point, which they claimed was the basic orientation point each person has that connects them to the universe and the way the universe operates.

It's like you have a serial number. Yeah, yeah. Or a birth date. Not, no. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, or a birth date Not no, okay I would say it's more like a barcode, you know It's like a barcode like you scan the barcode and the barcode gives you information Okay but if the time reference point is changed as it was with the crew of the USS Eldridge when the Philadelphia experiment

Hurdled them through time and space Then those who experience a change in reference point can suffer from extreme psychic trauma. The way Peter Moon put it, a human's energy is attached to a timeline in this universe, but the Project Rainbow technology created an artificial, separate reality that was completely different from our own timeline, which is how the ship and the men aboard were able to travel through time and space and turn invisible. They hopped over to the artificial reality, then came back to ours. But when the men of the USS Eldritch were sent to that artificial timeline, they received

energy from the wrong universe. And the inability to sync with that energy caused the widespread insanity. It's sort of like the barcode. It's like if you pop it and you get the wrong type of reader, then it's not going to work. Yes, and then you're stuck in it. They tried to just do it with it. So again, the long short of whatever the actual Philadelphia experiment was that they were supposed to use electromagnetic field, they thought. That's what was going to be just kind of a more innocent way. So they weren't actually invisible. It was more of like there was magnets protecting them from radar. Exactly. But, and physical light, so you could not look, see it while you were looking at it, but accidentally they sent it to another timeline. And the only thing that you can do to end that timeline is to close the loop and bring them back. Because everyone's on their own timeline,

that means you don't actually affect the future because the future is actually your Singular view of the future you each one of us has a proprietary Timeline that we are all on and cannot escape from yeah unless someone goes back a time and fucks with the entire timeline No, but it's only for you That doesn't make any sense sure That doesn't make any sense. It does though. Sure.

That's what they say about this. How long did it take for, in Project Rainbow, for the USS Eldridge to reappear from Montauk to Virginia? It was instantaneous. It was instantaneous? It went and then it showed up in Norfolk, Virginia with all these dudes stuck inside of the hole. Now supposedly Dr. Von Neumann petitioned Congress for funding to figure out ways to prevent insanity when using Project Rainbow technology. But Congress, ever the scaredy cats in this story, they turned down the proposal out of fear of what would happen if the technology fell into the wrong hands.

Meanwhile we had the Manhattan Project, we had all this fucking shit. It's just so funny to think that Congress would ever say no to new weapons. That is the funniest depart- that is the most implausible part of all of this story. Yes. Project Rainbow and Project Phoenix were then supposedly folded into the military, who were particularly excited to get their hands on a piece of radar equipment used in Project Phoenix called the Sage Array. Now the Sage Array is a very real thing and actually still exists on Long Island in Camp Hero State

Park as a part of the remaining structure of the military base. But in Peter Moon's world, the Sage Array operated in a frequency window that could break in to human consciousness. So once the military had the Sage Array, they refocused the project towards mind control and psychic powers, thus beginning Phoenix Project 2, better known by the much catchier name

of the Montauk Project. Well, you know why it fed directly in? It was part of the way they said that Cloud Busters would work is from people pinging Oregon energy off of the receptors inside of the floating cloudbusters. So what they said is this began, so it started as this weather manipulation thing and they saw they started using psychic connection and using Oregon energy and eventually they're

like now that we know that the brain, you can hack into human consciousness by according to these rules by getting on the same frequency that is coming out of our brains. That is what allows you to see our thoughts onto a television screen. That's what they use, right? But then they're like, well, if we can see in, why can't we also talk to it directly? Why can't we just go right into the center of somebody's brain, which is then the second layer. Now, as I said, Congress reportedly refused to fund any of this stuff, but the authors

of the Montauk Project book claimed that they were told by so-called Montauk acquaintances that the entire operation was funded by what else but mountains of Nazi gold. Cool. Allegedly, during World War II, a train carrying 10 billion in Nazi gold was traveling through a tunnel in France when the whole thing blew up. The cause of the explosion was a mystery, and the gold was never officially recovered.

But according to the whistleblowers, that 10 billion in Nazi gold was used to fund the Montauk project for years. Hey, see, you got pile Nazi gold dead. That's kind of nice It's kind of nice. You ever had any nantucket green The worst weed I've had you're gonna be so thankful. You're gonna be so thankful. You're not gonna get scared smoking it You got to try it. Okay, wait, hey, you know, I'm just an acquaintance Tell you what to do with your fucking life

I'm just saying they see you with a pile of Nazi gold. And I actually, I got this little boy I want to make psychic. I don't want any Mom Talk acquaintances. I don't want any fucking massapiqua consequences. You don't fucking know what I can bring to the friendship. You don't know. Take that back. I'm taking that back.

Oh, I guess all I gotta do is just go spend a week in the Massapequa. Oh, maybe you got to. Maybe you don't know what you're missing, you fucking maluk. Remember Montauk Project. I'm missing diners. That's all I'm missing. We all are. But the best diners in America. All in Long Island. And so, by the early 1970s, the Montauk project was in full swing and had expanded to performing

experiments on humans animals and aliens And I do realize that the alien part here does take a bit of explanation not for me Just accepting just ready to believe. Oh yeah. See, according to the authors of the Montauk Project, the first treaty between an alien civilization and the US government was signed in 1913,

while the second treaty came a few decades later in the mid-40s. These aliens who signed this treaty with the United States government were known as the K Group. And from what I can tell, these were the more benevolent aliens alarmed by the development of atomic weaponry.

The K Group promised an exchange of alien technology in return for our abandonment of nuclear technology. But when the U.S. government inevitably broke the treaty, the K Group pulled out of the agreement. The K Group were soon replaced in the early 50s by the regal in gray the regal in Yeah, the regal in grays were far more evil and not at all concerned with humanity blowing ourselves up The good these are that your classic alien grays

The grays only concern was a steady supply of bodies on which to experiment and as long as we kept serving up bodies They keep giving us technology as far as the K group goes I would imagine that it's K group aliens that are Experimented upon in the deepest reaches of the Montauk project facility. Although that's just wild fucking speculation on my part I mean, it's as good as any so 1913 yes, we sign a treaty with aliens This is important to know this is true the backbone of a lot of aliens after Kitty Hawk Oh very much so we're signing treaties with aliens. Yes, okay, so we're barely in the air ourselves

No, we met aliens. They said we can well How do you think how do you think we got into the air after Kitty Hawk, man? Fucking, because of the fucking, because of the breeze in North Carolina. Nah man, I'm talking about the big fucking jumps, these big jumps. Big jumps. Because everyone says like, oh isn't humanity so fucking incredible that we went from Kitty Hawk to the moon in sixty years? Oh did we do that? Or did we trade our souls to the aliens for that technology? Marcus gets it

It was mostly just science here This is a but this is a part that and the 1940s one of the gator treaty that was like, you know We're talking about with Eisenhower. It's called the gator treaty okay, and it's actually With Eisenhower that's the 50s well. Yeah, I was one of them These fucking pieces of shit just keep it a timeline they knew Well, I mean Eisenhower did somewhat presage the war on terror that if we know he did make his famous speech that if we were To put money into the military industrial complex than war itself would become a business and therefore never-ending war would be a consequence So no way and all I know is I'm just glad that that speech fixed everything

Just warning you on that the whole thing I just created might kill you all, all right? I'm gonna go hang out in Camp David and I'm gonna masturbate in front of my wife. All right. Die from your grave. Now, considering the works of Wilhelm Reich, it's probably not a surprise that one of the Montauk project's

most infamous operations involved a group of children and teenagers these kids programmed with Psychosexual mind control techniques would have came to be known as the Montauk boys. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we're ready to go suck my dick so many space Yeah, I'm gonna go underground and I wanna suck all these dicks I don't like them all the station, but if it gets me to Saturn start fiddling Small price to pay for knowledge This is my buddy Tucky I'm over here my name's Jonesy

Remember this whole thing Should have been played by the people that were in Lords of Flatbush. It was not supposed to be Millie Bobby Brown. Millie Bobby Brown is not a Montauk boy. Yeah, they put that in middle America. They definitely changed the entire tone of the project. Oh, yeah, no, it should have been two kids with a stickball, like a whole get up, a guy flipping a coin. That's what these are. It's little boys that are- It's the 1970s. There weren't kids in Long Island playing stickball in the 1970s I played stickball you know what stickball is yeah what is stickball baseball or the broom handle yeah I

played in Queens little kids it's a very thing very New York thing but you can't go to the field you know you got to play it in the street yeah stickball you played in the street I played it with a broomstick. That's fine. Yeah, I was like a little boy one time I was like really out there. Oh boy and queens playing stickball Supposedly groups of young boys and teenagers by the way when you say look at that guy Audience can't see that Yeah, I know it's right in front of us, but we're not doing this for us Well, you know we are though in a way think of that guy

Supposedly groups of young boys and teenagers were abducted from all around Long Island by the regalian gray were abducted from all around Long Island by the Regalian Grey Aliens and those boys were then delivered to the Montauk project Once there they were separated into three groups by age six to twelve thirteen to sixteen and seventeen to twenty two shit-head bigger shit-head Problem Society's issue. The youngest group was placed into two subgroups, one for genetic manipulation and one for mind control. Those who were genetically manipulated would stay on the base, while the mind control group

would be reprogrammed and sent back out into society to hold various high-powered positions as lawyers and politicians. How you doing? It's me, new Senator Butchi Samsonetti. How you doin', damn? I'm away from Long Island. You ready to have me? I wanna make sure we're playin' everybody's handball mandatory. Alright, everybody, who wants a soft pretzel? Anybody wanna kill some turkeys? Come on, you wanna go through that? Come on.

Well, these mind-controlled Montauk boys were thereafter sleeper agents who could be activated by the government at any time to form gangs of vigilantes who could eliminate enemies of the government. Yeah. An army of 14 year olds fighting the government. Isn't that what we use the clan for? At one point. Yeah.

Yeah. Now these weren't armies fighting against the government. These were people these are armies of 14 year olds or older No fighting Americans like killing killing people that were threats killing people like you and me. Hey, I dare you Montauk boys Cuz I'll flip you Not dare the Montauk I don't either we dare the Montauk boys. I don't either. I'll flip you. We're going to get you in there. We're all going to sit and listen to moving out together. We didn't start the fire.

We have to remember that and stay strong. Okay? The middle group, 13 to 16, would also be subject to genetic and mind control manipulation. But these boys were reintroduced into society as so-called disruptors. These disruptors worked on the opposite side of the fence, spearheading satanic movements and other similar cults to subvert society when it needed to be subverted. The oldest Montauk boys, however, were simply used as slave workers, but Montauk boys of all ages could be pulled into Montauk Experiments at any time if the scientists at the Montauk project needed a boy for whatever reason That's when they became Montauk men. Yeah when they had to start working. Well, also they're 18

The oldest boys they are Montauk men Yes, they're very much Montauk men unless you but, but it's more of a title. Also, if you have all this Nazi gold, why make them slaves? Just pay your workers. Because that's what paying, you're paying for the radar. You're paying for the cum buckets. 10 billion! You're paying for the Wilhelm cream!

10 billion! That you're gonna be using on the boys! 10 billion goes away really quickly. And it's also- It's seven floors deep, dude! It's concrete shovels! Yeah! It's fucking super expensive, man! These dumbs are fucking expensive, dog. Billion goes away really quickly and it's all floors deep dude These domes are fucking expensive dog It's also a part of the experiment because you got to experiment to see if you can turn a very rebellious 19 year old Long Island boy Into a slave. I tell you what with the nut Nazi gold a little Long Island boy

I'll do anything you ask him. I tell you what then the nut Nazi gold a little Long Island boy will do anything you ask him I tell you what Then he's an employee Rob knows how you know how you make a Long Island boy a slave is he gets He's just gonna make some random Montauk girl pregnant It's finding to be a long Ellen's wonderful, I know some Hampton and Montauk locals and man, they're fucked. They can't afford their own homes anymore. Too bad. Yeah, that's why we need a bunch of disruptors to go in there and ruin these neighborhoods. They might have something here.

As far as how the Montauk Project Mind Control Program worked, the programmers focused on boys ages 9, 14, and 19 because those ages were considered peak points for mind control manipulation. That's what the Paul brothers are doing. Yeah. First, the boys would be placed in a room naked. Yes. Where radio electronics would be placed on their genitals.

Then a series of Pavlovian dog tests would be forced upon the boys until they were mentally and physically broken enough to accept new consciousnesses and these tests were supposedly intense enough where many boys died in the process funny yeah nothing to say about that just a slight giggle too many boys like random Long Island boys exploded and just been like, God damn it, we're gonna need more boys. Somebody fuck these women! We're gonna have to go out there, someone get me a softball team. Is there a roller hockey rink around here? Call up the Greys, we need another shipment of boys.

Excellent. So I was talking to, I have a friend who their father grew up in Long Island, we're still close, and I called him before the show and I asked what he knew, he grew up in the Hamptons in Montauk, you know, so what he knows about any of this. And I was like, did boys go missing constantly

in the 60s and 70s? And he's like, I've never heard of that once. Well, what's funny is that in this time period, every single heavy hitter that we've covered that was a mass killer of children they every police officer was so certain that there were just bands of Runaway boys and girls that were just running everywhere like they were the lost

boys and never landed like the foot clan and shit and it's just I just think it was just harder to find boys Yeah, they were I mean kids kids were running away from home quite a bit in the 60s and 70s but the cops unfortunately you tended to use that as an excuse to not investigate anything even when the the evidence was sitting right in front of him like Dean Corl for example he was the most famous example in you know in Houston in the 1970s no 27 boys 29 something like that forever 27 teenagers. Yeah for he was until one of the boys killed him Yeah, yeah The one of the boys that was helping him kill other boys ended up killing him when Dean Corl tried to kill the boy

But it was also because Dean Corl might have been involved in a gigantic national network of making children's sexual exploitation material and using that and then the cops might have been on that. Those are also nexus. Maybe. And that's where we get the expression coral anal bleaching. Thank you. Yes. Actually, wow. I never actually never heard of coral anal bleaching. It's a bleaching that gets it to a nice pink.

A pink. Because I don't like it when they blow mine out to fully Phantom white and I'm white. I don't like that because you're pink. Yeah. Oh, no, I wanted to see the polish I don't want it to just because because then when my butthole is too clean too pure It's kind of oh you want a piggy hole. Yes, because then it's gets uncanny Valley Bleaching mine till it's clear Wow See what's coming, man. I stain mine.

But I did say a deep dark clay brown. Oh, nice. But also mine is that's where I see my little time travel ID number. It's right on the rim. You wanna see? Six nine six nine six nine six nine. Four twenty. Four twenty.

Four twenty. Yeah. Six, nine, four, twenty. Four, twenty. Four, twenty. The other side of these tests on the Montauk boys was that scientists could use alien radio technology to pick up patterns of fear and hopelessness. And some of these Montauk boys were supposedly killed

at the height of their fear so they could be harvested by the regalian gray aliens while they were full of adrenaline. And that hopelessness was piped through in them through their mothers. Yep. Yes. Rob, how much did you- you're a Long Island mother. Hopelessness or hopefulness? Somewhere in between.

Alright, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, this whole concept of, you know, making boys afraid before you kill them to make sure you got the maximum amount of adrenaline, this was all written about 1992, decades before it was repurposed into QAnon lore. With Montauk, it's satanic panic myths with aliens replacing Satanists combined with MK Ultra, where with QAnon, you've still got the government collaboration, except it's Democrats and celebrities and the deep state replacing the aliens. And who lives in Montauk now? Democrats and celebrities and the deep state replacing the alien and who lives in Montauk now

Democrats and celebrities Coming for you, which who else is there Billy Joel? Who else is there? Everybody's there man How's the Hamptons? Yeah, the Hamptons in Montauk. What are you Allen's there? I guess it would be considered of the Hamptons Oh, yes, Scarlett Johansson. Yeah, everybody's out there. Yes, De Niro. These people are ruining Long Island It's supposed to be for the fat and us. Oh, the middle is still very fat Oh, yeah, for my people. It's supposed to be for these fancies Gwyneth Paltrow is too skinny She's not gonna fucking she's not gonna know what good local dirty Chinese is Also, I will say another thing about the mind control and all that Montauk and the Hamptons is like a mecca for Lyme disease

Yes, because the real conspiracy about Lyme being a generated by the government Project which is a whole other thing. Yeah, that's a whole other series. The big side quest. Plum Island. Yeah. Now, I'm sure that all of this seems pretty intense so far. But while we've already covered MK Ultra style experiments, invisible battleships and treaties between the government and alien civilizations, we've just started to scratch the surface on the Montauk Project.

The reason why we know about all of this in detail is because the man who co-authored Peter Moon's eponymous book about the conspiracy, he was also a scientist who claimed to have been a part of the Montauk Project for over a decade. This supposed whistleblower's name was Preston Nichols. And if you believe everything Preston had to say, which is asking a lot, he lived quite possibly one of the most interesting lives in human history. Preston Nichols is a pure example of an old school,

I Sent the Boys, the oldest school possible three hour long documentary called Montauk Survivors, which was a VHS-filmed talk between Al Bealick, Duncan Cameron, and Preston Nichols in just a house, right? And I sent it to you just so you could get a taste of what conspiracy theory used to be like, maybe. Yeah, you could see the wives weren't there because they probably were never gone.

I think that they were disappeared. They were disappeared. But Preston Nichols is the ultimate example of this man has said so many different lies, different stuff, different conspiracy theories that I, to this day, I have no idea what he did. I didn't know really what he, like, I don't know what was real or what was not was real.

And that's technically a compliment. Yeah. I real or what was not was real and that's an Technically a compliment. Yeah, I'm like cuz that is a that's awesome He's a true for to be a fat fuck from Long Island and become a mystery. Yeah, it's awesome Yeah, I tried figuring it out too. Yeah, I had no idea what his real profession was throughout life You know, he didn't really start coming out and talking about all this stuff until he was what in his 40s or 50s, something like that. Yeah. So as far as like what Preston Nichols was before he became an author that was published by the same house as Behold a Pale Horse, big question mark. Is he the guy who like claimed he was like an engineer that went to University of Tampa,

but then he actually didn't go to the University of Tampa? Yes. This is one of the things that he said. Yes. Okay, cool. But that's not, that's not his most illustrious credit. Well, Preston Nichols said that he was an electrical engineer and an inventor. He sadly left this world in 2018,

but the story he imparted before his passing is an incredible one, and it was told, as Preston put it, despite brainwashing and threats to silence him. Supposedly, Preston Nichols discovered the truth behind the Montauk Project while doing telepathy research with psychics in the mid-80s. He had found that psychics were having their powers suppressed by radio waves, and eventually he traced those waves directly to Montauk Point. Preston Nich however soon discovered the truth behind the truth behind the lies behind the truth behind the lies

And figured out that he himself had been a key figure in the Montauk project But his memories have been wiped after the project was shut down Using technology of his own making can ask I ask a question? Please. Sure. If his memories were wiped by himself, how would he remember that? He was also a powerful hypnotist. See, he was... He could hypnotize himself and other people,

and he also asked other people, and there were many people that told him many things. And also, he asked this other guy that we're gonna get into next episode, and this other guy, Duncan Cameron, he into next episode and this other guy Duncan Cameron He could commune with aliens and channel with aliens and these aliens were also some of the ones that worked And with the Montauk project and these aliens all told Preston Cameron a lot of stuff who told The dude told this guy Preston Nichols a lot of stuff and then Preston Nichols like oh, yeah

That's definitely what happened so Preston Nichols remembered nothing, but someone told him that he did this and he was like, yeah Yeah, no what happened? Well, then he kind of then it all came flooding back, right? And then we have the real actually explanation right here Marcus. Okay. Now according to Preston's co-author Peter Moon Preston occupies nonlinear space C Which means that he is operating on a consciousness not regulated by linear thought can't be controlled Can't be contained man therefore his memories and experiences do not always conform to linear Applications yeah, dude like taxes and work which is a nice way of saying that it appears as if he's lying quite often It's hard for him to not to lie. He was put into two separate spaces because time isn't real. Okay? And reality isn't real.

Additionally, Preston himself wrote that while people have been quick to call his writing science fiction, that does not make him unhappy because he is aware that what he writes about is controversial. Not many people are ready to accept what I have to say and the types of truths that I have. Because the truth, sometimes they're so confusing and they're so not real that you Be crazed to think that that's not the truth. But actually the truth can be not real Reality not being real is a very contradictory sentence exactly Sounds like some fat guys getting it Are you not real too?

Real I'm not fucking real except when I'm ordering my pizza and then I'm fucking present. You show up with that fucking shit. That's a millennial application I will fucking apply to. Preston Nichols also claims that his work has been ripped off by Hollywood countless times for TV shows and movies. It has! Although the Hollywood elites have done it quite cleverly so as to make lawsuits difficult if not impossible. Also, I'm a bit not liquid at the moment. Specifically, Preston claimed that the shows Farscape and Sliders were both based off his

work. They definitely were. Sliders? Yeah. This is Sliders, dude. No, this is not Sliders. This is kind of Sliders? Yeah. This is sliders dude. No this is not, this is kind of sliders. This is sliders if there were actual sliders involved. The sandwiches. This is a legitimate, this is sliders. No sliders is Jerry O'Connell is a brilliant science student working in

his basement. Replace him with Preston Nichols, that's who it's supposed to be. No you just cut me off before I can tell the actual story which is nowhere near Preston Nichols. That's who it's supposed to be. That's not it. No, you just cut me off before I can tell the actual story, which is nowhere near Preston Nichols actual story. Yes, Jerry O'Connell was the tiny burger. No, he built a dimensional hopping device in his basement and then he somehow brought in his professor, in his basement and then he somehow brought in his professor, the girl that he worked with at the store and a random soul singer who happened to just be driving by at the time and then they started hopping dimensions together using the sliding device. I know you're talking about sliders but Rob just put up a bunch of pictures of actual sliders.

Yeah. And I'm actually super hungry just looking at it. That's actually a great look at seven sliders. God, I haven't had sliders Just look that's actually a great look There should be more sliders around when we go to Detroit we should go to the stairs an entire There's a restaurant that only serves sliders really and of different meats I'm talking about, let's cut it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about slides. Start talking about potato skits.

Well, before we get into Preston Nichols' biography completely, I will warn you that it does sort of feel, his autobiography, it does sort of feel like talking to an annoying friend who tries to one-up everything you say with a story that's ten times more impressive and clearly untrue at every turn. He's the type of person that I honestly can't stand that does the thing where he corrects you on something so minute in a bunch of nasty of other garbage, right? It was like a whole thing where like I was in the middle of this three hour thing.

They're having this like long dumb conversation about how like USS Eldritch is it more is it considered a battleshiphip or stuff and he has to go like uh it through smoke specs it's a destroyer and you're like fuck you man it's not real shut up stop trying to fucking just cause you're logjamming for no reason yeah did the Elv- no one knows where the Eldritch is now? no the Eldritch I believe it existed I believe was a real battleship they had to pull it apart destroyer they had to pull it apart yeah Destroyer. They had to pull it apart. And they had to do the other parts because obviously all the boys were trapped in it.

So they had to pull it apart and they used that still for other things. Well, from what it seems like, Preston Nichols saw himself as somewhat chosen for high strangeness. As he described having his first encounter with aliens when he was just five or six years old. He saw many more UFOs over the years and tried to capture them on film and camera, but he claimed that each time the footage would go missing or it would corrupt itself. This, Preston believed, was proof that the government had had him under surveillance since childhood. Now Preston was a sickly child, but all of Preston's health problems, including cerebral

palsy, disappeared at around the age of 17. I grew up out of it. I just honestly I was over it. I was so sick of it. I was like, oh, I'm stiff. You know what? I'm going to stretch. Next thing you know I'm fine.

I'm just fine. Through later hypnotic regression, Preston came to realize that he had been cured of all his ills when the alien race known as the Pleiadians took him to their home planet of Alderaan for medical treatment and education. He said that along with the disappearance of his health problems, he suddenly had a mastery of electronics and a so-called guiding voice appeared in his head. It was suddenly available to give him answers to any question he had.

Okay, ask me a question. Ask me a question. I got the little voice in my head that can answer everything. It's easy. What's the pie recipe down at Basta Bongi's? Oh, well first thing you need to follow, you need to first of all go fuck yourself trying to even steal that secret recipe because now I know you're trying to catch me, Slugworth. That's what this is.

You're Slugworth, aren't you? Yeah, you fucking are. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm Slugworth. You're not even Slugworth. I'm sorry I'm Slugworth. Don't you make me eat your betray, Willy Wonka. Now, what type of UFOs did the Palladiums use? Big ones.

That easy. Cool, cool. Adam Becker fulfilled the Palladiums use? Big ones! That's how it is. Cool, cool. Adam Beggar from Phil with Palladiums. Yeah, he's super long-waited, a lot of deaths. And where are the Palladiums from? The Pleiades system, from the planet of Alderaan. Yeah, from Alderaan. And that is where? In Star Wars. The Pleiades system.

Yeah, the Pleiades system out in the spiral arm, Betelgeuse, I think, something. Betelgeuse. Binaryades system. It's a, yeah, the Pleiades system out in the spiral arm, Beetlejuice, I think something, Beetlejuice. Binary star system. Alpha Centauri. Now is that east? Let me check my Google map. Depends on which direction you face it. Now the planet of Alderaan might sound familiar.

Now that's because Alderaan was Princess Leia's home planet in Star Wars. Ah, see? You'd think this would be a bit of a gotcha moment against Preston Nichols, but it is in fact quite the opposite. That's where I got you. According to Preston, everything in Star Wars is actually accurate to the truth of the universe, and quite a few pieces of media like Star Wars are in fact actual histories, while the

history that we know as Earth history is not history at all, but fiction. Yeah, it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Listen, my cousin's a wookie Traulis is there something old girls go on and be with you, but you know what comes down to it He's a he's totally confident with himself And uh, yeah, it's like Jedi's he's a wookie turn wookie We're anti-Wookiee here. It's an anti-Wookiee podcast. In fact, we see a guy that started the Wookiee chapter in Montauk, the Wookiee Wookiees.

Yeah, oh yeah, that guy. Love that guy. Same thing. And they got the order then. It's all real. Quit asking me questions, alright? I'm trying to finish this five hot dog line I have going on. I'm trying to finish this five hot dog line I have going on. As far as our history being a fiction goes, Preston claims that the Pleiadians, the same aliens who helped him, they were actually involved with Hitler and the Third Reich, but only because the Pleiadians were involved in a millennia- long war against the Draconian race, aka the Reptilians, who had colonized the earth in the form of the Jewish people. Oh, is that real? Wow, oh my god, I gotta go, I gotta go out there!

I gotta go tell some fucking people! I gotta get out! This, however, according to Preston Nichols, Ed, is not a racist statement. I've been trying to say this. There's nothing racist about it. It's just truth. It's just that Jewish people are shapeshifting, reptilian aliens, but I love their culture and I love their holidays.

Advanced. We are advanced. We're better than them. Yes. They got great food. They got great comedians. You know, when it comes down to it, yeah, of course, I find reptilians funny. A lot of people do.

I'm not gonna live on Long Island if I don't get away with it wrong with the Jews. How am I gonna be able to, honestly, because you throw a yarmulke, you're gonna hit a reptilian every five feet out of you. Why do you think I was so big when I was born? The egg was in the nest too long, and it took forever for me to hatch.

Your mom's pussy should have been bigger. Oh, God, if only she was. She'd probably still be around. Jesus Christ. You made it real. Is there a relation between vagina size and diabetes? Oh, I know that I was so big that she became a diabetic. Yeah. Okay. So yes. Side stories at lpotl and gmail.com. Well, as I said, Preston Nichols claims it's not a racist statement to say that Jews are reptilians.

Damn, it's just a fact. Deal with it. It's like how all Asians are hybrids of grays and insectoids. That's why they have the worker bee mentality. It's not racism if it's a fact. These are just facts, Preston says. It's nothing to get offended over. Why are you getting offended? You're acting like you're some kind of like you some kind of whatever?

No, these aren't jokes these are facts these are the opposite of jokes But then sometimes when you find out is what you joke about is actually quite serious Not supposedly. The Nazis agreed to a technology exchange with the Pleiadians, and the Nazis offered up people in concentration camps as alien experiment subjects, most likely the communists and the gay people, because you know, I would imagine the Pleiadians already had plenty of reptilians. But supposedly, through this treaty, the Nazis learned about mind control, nuclear tech, and time travel. According to Preston Nichols though, Hitler apparently

went quote, off mission and took things a little too far. So be assured that the Pleiadians staunchly anti Holocaust. Listen, again, it's nothing racist about this. It's just facts, it's just what history was, okay? They were like, whoa, Hitler, whoa. Hey now, now this would be illegal on our planet. But luckily for the good old US of A, America was able to get their hands on all the alien technology the Pleiadians handed over to the Nazis through Operation Paperclip. Cool!

When we rehabilitated all those Nazis. Naturally, much of that technology was then applied to the Montauk Project. Whoa, man, do you think Clippy was a Nazi? Um, I know Clippy was a Nazi. At least he hung out with Nazis and said nothing. He just corrected their grammar. And there's nothing worse than a grammar Nazi. Looks like you're trying to institute Liebensraum. Do you need help? As a matter of fact, I do, Clippy.

But now that we've had a bit of history, let's get back to the incredible life of Preston Nichols. Now that we've had a bit of history, let's get back to the incredible life of Preston Nichols. Now, Preston's biography was not just limited to science. Oh no! Preston is far too cool for a life of solely intellectual pursuits. Yeah, too cool. Chicks keep pulling me out of the academic game. Rather, if you believe what Preston Nichols claimed, he changed the face of pop and rock

music many times over, acting as a key yet unsung figure in the music business. Allegedly, it all started for Preston at a very young age, sometime in the late 1950s. See, Preston claimed that his Cub Scout leader, a dude by the name of Cal Mann, recognized Preston's innate abilities in the field of electronics and took Preston to New York City when Preston was innate abilities in the field of electronics and took

Preston to New York City when Preston was just 12 years old. I gotta tell you Preston, I saw you. You were playing with that radio and I just knew that must be his second language. Thank you Mr. Man. Yeah, you're right. Hey there little boy. I can't even know what you're really good at. Tie them knots. You want to go see a Broadway play with your favorite scum god leader?

All you gotta do is sit on my lap here. It's called time travel training. We're gonna turn whittlin' into diddlin'. If you ever heard a little thing called the twist, I'm gonna do it on you. We'll get your insertion patch. Oh yeah, that's your big Gaper patch. He dialed, he's a little bald, dialated for centimed. I'm a man scout.

Man scout. Well, Preston had an interest in music and he had supposedly built a special recording device at the age of 12 that was able to tap into the esoteric principles of any song, thereby amplifying how well it could connect to an audience. Kal-Man was a musician, Preston wrote, who was better known by his stage name, Chubby Checker, and the song Preston supposedly used his new equipment to record was The Twist. Yep! Absolutely!

He's the only one who can hear me do it! Hold on. was the twist Preston claimed that chubby checker was his cub scout leader And that chubby checker was so impressed with his electronic skills that he chubby checker took him to New York City so they could record the twist together Okay Now you just sit there watch me dance. None of this is true. Oh, yeah None of it's true cow man was a songwriter But he wrote let's twist again, which was the sequel to the twist Whoa, Hank Fowler wrote the twist and that's not even to mention the fact that Chubby Checker's real name was Ernest Evans And he was certainly wasn't a Cub Scout leader taking 12 year old boys on trips to the city. Yeah, sorry

I'm not Chubby Checker my real name is Big Fat Mr. Domino Unfortunately, I have not been training you for time travel. I have been molesting you Domino is the name of the actor famous. No, no. The Cal Man's real name actually was Cal Cohen. Oh, he changed it. He was a very nerdy white man. Yeah.

And yeah, he changed it when he got into the songwriting business. The interesting thing I'm thinking about is Chubby Checker, Fat Domino, and Chess Records. Yeah. It's all in there. I just, you know. What does Chess Records have to do with him being chubby or fat? He's just distracting us from what we have to do here, Marcus. It's another connection. You're asking me to find far-fetched connections this whole episode.

I found one on my own. But the thing is about all the information about Cow Man and Chubby Checker and Hank Ballard, all that's not easily attainable in 1992 when Preston's book was released. Preston actually, he even spelled Cal Man's name wrong. He spelled Cal with a C instead of a K. So, I think that Preston just figured that it was safe to make both this claim and the avalanche of name dropping that's about to come. Also, just because I was such a big part of American history that they had to cut out. It was so hard for them to do it to cover it up.

So it was just like, you know, you just can't know my whole history because I'm no secret man ever live. Preston claimed that he also worked with the surf rock hitmakers, The Ventures on many of their albums as an engineer. Through The Ventures, Preston met singer Frankie Vall Frankie Valley who recruited Preston as the drummer on Big Girls Don't Cry. Is that real? No! Of course! Big Girls Do Cry. The only person I could see relatively like that makes sense in this story is Frankie Valley. He's like the only guy. One of the Four Seasons is in this. You's like the only guy that I've ever... One of the four seasons is in this.

You're like, oh yeah, that makes sense. I'm just having Frankie Valley there. I can sit and be like, now that's a good tune. You know what I mean? Like that's a, cause he had a great voice. Yeah. Almost, I'd say, unworldly voice. Ooh.

Is he an alien? If you look at Frankie Valley now, he definitely looks like a Teddy Ruxpin style robot. I can't believe Frankie Valley's still alive. Have you seen him do his animatronic performances? No, it's just so good. It's just You can't see it he's not he's dead on the inside. Yeah, he's dead man. I'm very proud of him Yeah, he's making money. You know, my mom dated one of the four seasons for a second. Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I probably autumn but the But I know she said only lasted one date because he tried to go out with her sister She should have took that

Your whole life could have been better certainly would have been worse than my father Well things about these claims Preston told his readers, don't even bother trying to verify all this, because after Preston saw the kind of hell that Chubby Checker and Frankie Valli went through with being famous, he decided to have his name withheld on all of his work in the music industry, which is incredibly extensive, supposedly. For example, Preston claimed that he helped Phil Spector develop the wall of sound recording technique. But you didn't put how he said he knew Phil,

where he was like, I walked with Sky Day Mom, his name was Phil Big Hair, Big Hair, crazy guy. I can't go into all of his like, I can't go into all of his fucking like stories because he goes on and on and on and on. I'm definitely bringing all these down. Like that he was responsible for the Beatles jump and artistic ability with Sergeant Pepper is like, yeah, they came over to America. And I said, why don't you try recording on the big speaker? Did you

see the wall of sound that he built in his barn? No, I didn't. Oh yeah. Like there was one of the, the, one of the docs that Rob sent me dark days or something like that. Oh, dark files. Yeah. They go and they interview him behind his like broken, broken knobs. And he lives on top of base speaker where he lived on top of base speakers. Cause they said it cleared him that the base noises below 30 megahertz cleared him of his psoriasis He also said that he was the one who told Jimi Hendrix like hey you ever thought about playing electric guitar He was also the guy who told the Beach Boys like, Hey, uh, you guys ever thought about singing together? Like, no fucking shit! We've mostly been singing one at a time!

Don't do it one at a time, do it all like, 1, 2, 3, I'm thinking about good vibrate shit, come on! Oh my god, you fat piece of shit, you're a genius, who are you? You never saw me. I'm the guy who told Phil Spector to get a gun collection. Preston also claimed that he was not only the one who recorded Light My Fire by the Doors, but that he was personal friends with Jim Morrison. And it was actually Preston Nichols who taught Jim Morrison how to perform live.

Before that, Jim Morrison just stared at the wall. Honestly, I was the one who said Jim pull your dick out They're gonna love it. It's gonna cause a moment. All right, you got you got the snooze for it I want you to go out there and you flapping around. I was the one who said hey Jim Jim You ever thought about singing about fucking your mother? Two words, Lizard King. Just made that up. Just thought of that. Done, right? Lizard King, that's you.

But interestingly, Morrison's story is actually related to another character from pop culture, who also plays a role in Preston's history. Apparently, one of the most powerful, psychic, and esoteric minds on earth belongs to the actor Mark Hamill. But Mark actually started in the music business, according to Preston. Preston claimed to have met Mark Hamill through Chubby Checker and Frankie Valli, because Mark Hamill was writing songs for other people without taking credit with his brother Chuck as far back as 1967. That would make him know he was 16 years old just something I think seven writing songs for chubby

checker like 16 year old Mark Hamill right also start because also it's funny because then Preston Nichols also says Star Wars is real yeah yeah so he's hanging out with Luke Skywalker well no he's still like just the act. Mark Hamill is just the actor. We're going to get into the Star Wars thing here in a second. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. At the age of 16, Hamill supposedly wrote and recorded Beg, Borrow and Steal and released it under the name of The Ohio Express. Oh damn! No word, however, as if as to if Hamill also wrote The Ohio Express's other hit, Yummy, yummy, yummy.

I've got love in my tummy and I feel like loving you. Actually, I think that was the guy that played Obi Wan. Was one of the mom talk boys who was forced to have a yummy tummy. Yeah, he does. Let me get some. But the connection to the doors here is that Preston claims that Mark Hamill actually wrote most of Jim Morrison's poetry. That's why that's really not as big of a credit as I think Preston Nichols thought it was. I really don't do this.

Yeah. But Preston claimed that everything he knew about audio engineering fit into his understanding of mind control, which is what made him, in his estimation, one of the great recording engineers of the 60s, despite his name never coming up once anywhere for anything. Preston claimed that sound waves held electromagnetic power, and his later work on the Montauk project dealt with similar energies, as the Montauk project was all about harnessing frequencies to control minds and shape realities. It was the music business, Preston said, where all these possibilities were opened up. It's an interesting idea. In fact, Preston was

certain that the psychic implanting of messages into pop and rock tunes is how the Montauk project was eventually able to lure in so many Montauk boys to be experimented upon. Have you ever thought about Billy Joel possibly being a Montauk project candidate? Oh my god was Billy Joel piano man Seems from an Italian restaurant. There's no way that that was made by all this Nazi technology. Yeah, but sometimes. You mean to tell me that the stranger

was inspired by the Nazis? Well, it took only the mean Montauk boys lived. That's why only the good die young. Wow, Billy Joel. And Billy Joel hasn't talked about it once, and that's how you know he's a part of it because he doesn't remember. Yeah, that's true.

Isn't it? I'm gonna find his chubby little hands, and I wanna find out. I wanna go to Montauk and find him on this, because I think he's only legally allowed to drive a golf cart now. Yeah. And so I feel like, I think it'd be easy to find him.

What do you think happens to those two people that get brought from the back row to the front at every Madison Square Garden Billy Joel concert? Do you think those people just go home? Do you think Billy Joe's doing that at the kindness of his fucking heart? Candidates for the time travel program. No fucking shit MSG's a fucking it's a slave market They got to provide a bottle of red and a bottle of white and of course has blood and cum or plasma blood and cum. Wow! Or plasma. But in addition to being an unsung hero in the recording industry, Preston also claims

movie credits by saying that he was the one who convinced George Lucas to cast his friend Mark Hamill in the role of Luke Skywalker. No shit! As such, Preston said that he was present during the filming of Star Wars, every single scene, and that two psychics were present during all takes of Star Wars, every single scene, and that two psychics were present during all takes. In Preston's view, Star Wars was so popular because Lucas had instructed the psychics to implant psychic messages onto the film itself to make people like it more.

Additionally, Preston claimed that he was the one who gave George Lucas the idea for the Force. And later, Preston claimed that he used his extensive knowledge of sound to not only develop THX, but also mix sound for The Empire Strikes Back. Wow! Yeah! Wow! No, it is my favorite thing. At this point, like, when I'm reading it, I'm just like,

I can just tell the fucking weirdo that I'm stuck on the train with. And you know, that's the thing, is what's crazy is that you'd even be, you know, the psychics were cooking lunch. We're in Pangaea, you know, we got the Jedi's over there, and the whole time I'm just thinking, like, you know, Mark could be skinnier. And then me and George, we had a little sidebar You know George oh me and George go way back. Yeah

George Lucas George and we were hanging out and then I mean obi was working on that new sequel to the twist and The whole time I'm like this is gonna be big this movie's gonna be this gonna be big Yeah Bing-bong, okay, okay, this is my stop this movie's gonna be, it's gonna be big. Yeah. Bing bong. Okay, I get it, this is my stop. No! No, I can't wait to be dying about what I did with Prog music!

Stand clear of the closing doors, please. Alright, see you later! I know it, I know Rick O'Gayson! No! Now, by the early 70s, Preston had either stepped back from the music industry for a little bit or he was splitting his time.

Starting around 1971, Preston began working for a military defense contractor on where else but Long Island. Preston said that he was hired to be on a team of scientists who were tasked with examining some so-called foreign material, foreign technology, which turned out to be a captured UFO. The craft was a typical disc-shaped flying saucer with no seams, no obvious buttons, and no controls. From what Preston was able to figure out from disassembling and reverse engineering the craft, however, it was operated not by conventional means, by mind control using psychic chairs

Powered by crystals this guy's so lazy. It's just everything's like a powerful chair It is all about powerful chairs you trying to tell me that you trying to tell me the fat man from Long Island is not Going to be passionate about chairs My lazy boy I'm a busy man because in this throne I can control so many things with my Long Island mind I could do it all right here! Because I'm sitting in this chair completely filled, completely to the brim with raviolis! And I'm not walking around because I got a bit of a cramp! This is Preston Nichols, by the way. I love this picture of him.

We need to put this on social media. No, Preston's top. What? That's what that picture says. Again, audio medium. If you could see the picture of him going, my blood pressure is what? Now, Preston's timeline can be difficult to suss out at times because he can be extremely vague and he jumps around a lot. But it seems like the defense contractor on Long Island that had hired him to reverse engineer this UFO, this defense contractor, was the Montag Project. Because soon after he cracked the psychic chairs, he became a full part of the

operation. Actually, we had to rebuild some of them because we just didn't, we needed to make them all weight bearing. Using the technology he gleaned from the mind controlled UFO, Preston claimed that he was involved with the creation of a device that could send out thoughts from a giant transmitter. This device came to be known as the Montauk chair. It's not funny Eddie. There's nothing funny about it.

There's not a single funny thing about this chair. I mean, I know that the Montauk chair also sounds like when you sit on the toilet too long because you have too much mozzarella. Better go take a break on the Montauk chair. Being constipated because too much cheese. Now a lot of the experiments in the Montauk project would revolve around the Montauk chair But in the beginning Montauk boys would be sat in the chair while various radio waves UHF waves and microwaves of varying widths pulse rates and frequencies would bombard the Montauk boys bodies

Just to see what effect it would have on their psyches Now it was said that these waves could make a person sleep, cry, laugh, or be agitated, but it wasn't just the person in the chair who was affected. Supposedly, everyone on the base would get into a mood when the chair was turned on. Oh yeah. So the brass began taking note of how powerful this thing could be. See, the chair was attached to that radar I mentioned earlier, the Sage Array, which, if you'll remember,

was one of the big selling points for the military to turn the Phoenix Project into the Montauk Project. The Sage Array operated at just the right radio frequency to access the human mind. And once the Montauk Project figured out how to use the chair to break into the mind It was only a matter of time before they figured out how to use the chair to project the minds of the people Using the chair outward using tubes

tubes in the chair Outside of the chair chair. Okay. Yeah and tunnels but time tunnels We'll get into it later that lead and their tubes. They're not pipes No tubes Difference very much so no no what what is the difference between a tube and a pipe in your estimation? Let's just say one works and one doesn't I think pipes aren't as flexible I think pipes aren't as flexible. Tubes you can wiggle. Yeah, too. Yeah, wiggly tubes are quite wiggly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't want to base it. I don't want it to base it in that way, but yes. Rob, former plumber? Yes. Tubes come in long rolls. Yeah. Pipes come in lengths.

Thank you, Long Island former resident Rob, for bringing your proper representation. Well, the Montauk Chair was also discovered to be quite useful for recording pop songs with subliminal messages. And Preston Nichols was naturally the engineer for these sessions that supposedly occurred on this military base on Montauk Point. I couldn't help but notice when we were torturing that one Montauk boy, he had a beautiful voice. And I got just the song for him.

That song, 1974's Ever lasting love by Carl Carlton open up your eyes then you realize Yeah, man great song great song great song great for a boy to sing Yeah, I built this chair with the two yeah, yeah, two We wouldn't have that cover of everlasting love without it. No, it was an early and wildly successful Montauk chair experiment Although the subliminal messages that were in everlasting love Preston Nichols declined to impart that information But once the potential for the Montauk chair was discovered the Montauk Project was able to move from controlling the minds of others to using the psychic powers of human beings to control and manipulate not just time, but reality itself. And that is where we'll pick back up next week for our conclusion with time travel, with Pyramids on Mars, and of course the mon talk beast. Yeah. And nevermind boys in space.

That's a boys in space. Many, many boys in space, many boys in tunnels. Now the Montauk beast is that the Montauk monster? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, no, no, no. That's it. That is it. Yeah. I forgot about the Montauk monster Montauk You're talking about the thing that washed up on the shore right? Montauk monster supposed to be of the same Origin of the Montauk beast he might be from Plum Island who knows yeah, yeah Oh man, Plum Island we gotta do next. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of different things. We're coming for you Lyme disease We're taking Lyme disease

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We had a doomsday. We can't fucking wait to do those shows with you Eddie That's right, but until then Be a boy in space That's what I want whatever that means to you. Amen. I know what that means to me Huge fucking bowl and sit in the tub. Fuck. Yeah, man rock and roll. Do you do that man? I'm now I'm dude tub life now. I used to I'm in there now Yeah, I don't tub, but I definitely Toilet bowl yeah, yeah

I've got to start smoking blunts on the toilet again. I'm in a while. I miss it Yeah, the thing is once you start wiping though. You got to finish the blunt. Yeah, everyone's upset. Hmm. Oh, yeah It's hard to hard to share hell Satan. Oh Sorry, I'm just I just got distracted by the whole like blunt in the wiping thing. Yeah, Elgin. Hail... Mark Hamill. Yeah. Yeah He doesn't deserve any of this. Neither does Dr. John von Neumann. I also feel like more people need to honestly hit up Mark Hamill about this. Yes.

Like he needs to know how deeply involved in this. Come on the show? Oh, I'd love to he needs to know that he there's a whole world of like He's just he's gonna be so excited. No Star Wars is real. Yeah If you want to come on the show and personally thank Preston, I think the family of would appreciate it really appreciate what he didn't have any family the family of would appreciate it really appreciate what he didn't have any family no because you can't have a family when there's truth involved well the guy who has a giant pot on his head that lives on his property I'm sure fuckers