Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 626: The Toy-Box Killer : Redux Part II - Storm of the Century

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

This week the boys close the book on David Parker Ray a.k.a. The Toy-Box Killer, focusing on the latter half of his secret life of crime, the details behind his smarmy band of accomplices, and the sto...ry of the unbreakable victim who helped put the killer behind bars. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to this is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started No, no something but this guy no I don't want a single Rob if you could not throw up a single visual reference today. That'd be great You know because this is the last one. This is a one we want to get Supervisual yeah, I think that's where we're really gonna start turning the audience well I mean I wouldn't have y'all both seen Cindy Hindi. Oh, yeah, that's what I've seen Cindy No, I haven't I actually would like to see Cindy Hindi. You know what she looked like you know I'll put this way she looks like Janice from the Muppets
Starting point is 00:00:49 Janice from the Muppets had an endless fucking hole for cock. Yeah. Yeah, she the super tough chick No, Cindy Hindi is the accomplice the girlfriend. Okay. Yeah, you want to pull up Cindy Hindi? Yeah, you're gonna watch out. That's her. Yep She looks like Janice from the Muppets if she had an endless hole for dick Janice is beautiful. That's Janice from the Muppets if that was a person. No it's not. If you were to put- There's no hippie in this woman. Yes, she's unfortunately the most hippie you've ever met. Yeah Unfortunately, this is the end result of hippie
Starting point is 00:01:20 Like if you don't stop hippie and you just kept like, you know They say a copy of a copy of a copy, you know When you keep making like copies of something that eventually you get something like awful That's what Cindy Hindi is with like Pink Floyd fans. Yeah, you just don't believe either one of you I've got that what she's got the Janice jaw, you know like those big lips and the same shape of head Yeah, this got lima bean head and she's got the kind of straw hair And so she does kind of look like Janice and I can Just I just put her in there Janice leave Janice out of this Janice is a wonderful Muppet. You just don't want to get Disney IP angry
Starting point is 00:01:53 No, I don't care about the Disney IP getting angry with me. She's not Janice. Look at Janice Janice is gorgeous It looks exactly like they look exactly the same. They look so similar Yeah, I mean Janice, yeah. This woman has no good teeth. She's not wearing a hat. My God, I can't believe you can't see it. Welcome to Last Podcast on the left. My name is Marcus Parks.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I'm here with Henry Zabrowski. I would say, the correct Henry Zabrowski. Thank you. We're on the same side here today. Finally, and I just want to say today's episode is dedicated to Julie, your wife. This is a huge get for this for this show and it's your anniversary and congrats I've already told her she's not allowed to listen to these episodes
Starting point is 00:02:34 Every time she wants to talk about these episodes, I'm like baby You're going to cry. You're not gonna like I tell you about what we're talking about I got into it about the tapes, too I did some information when you were talking about finding the 50 minute tape versus the four minute tape So apparently there is some chatter around Which one is genuine and which one is not okay? So the 50 minute one apparently was written it was is the full transcript But it is not his voice Sounds like it's not though.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It's an impersonator. Somebody else doing the voice. Jeff Foxworthy. I hope. Oh my God. Jeff Coxworthy. Have you wake up strapped to a table? You might be inside the toilet.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We also have the comedic chameleon, Ed Larson. How you doing everybody? This can't get over fast enough. Thank you Marcus for handing in the longest script you've ever given me. Yeah! It really is. It really is the longest one I've written since we started working together. It's real thick. By a couple pages. But the four minute video is his voice. Oh
Starting point is 00:03:46 That actually is David Parker Ray. So they are both it's half real the 50-minute one is like half So that's just the transcripts of the tape That's where we got all the information about the dog fucking and all that kind of stuff that we that came out that we have not Necessarily added back into this episode. Yeah, but what I would say actually I did He put the dog fucking in this Good. Yeah, but what I would say actually I did Sure that we don't leave anything out and it's not really we'll get it. I still left quite a bit out Yeah, I know. I know there was a couple times and I was like man. Does this need to be in there? It does welcome to toy box killer redux part two Yeah, so when we last left David Parker Ray Welcome to Toy Box Killer Redux Part 2.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So when we last left David Parker Ray, he and his daughter Jessie had just captured, tortured and raped a friend of Jessie's named Kelly Garrett over a period of three days in David's infamous Toy Box. Upon her release, David had given Kelly a heavy dose of psychotropic drugs that scrambled her short-term memory into an amorphous blob of unknowable trauma. David then drove Kelly, who was a newlywed, back to her husband's house himself. Now David's drugging method was successful because Kelly had no memory of what exactly had happened to her over the previous three days. But Kelly's husband didn't believe her story at all.
Starting point is 00:05:01 He instead chose to think that Kelly and Jesse Ray were trying to somehow scam him. They didn't even get, didn't really get specific with it. Just like I don't believe it you're trying to get money out of me. Kelly's marriage was therefore annulled and she moved away from truth or consequences with nothing more than the feeling that something absolutely terrible had happened to her after she'd gone out drinking with David Parker Ray's daughter, Jesse. This is probably a terrible way to introduce this character, but we thought about, me and Eddie had a really funny idea on the road about the idea of me playing the character David Parker Ray. Yeah, fat David Parker Ray.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And then we started doing the jokes, right? So at Side Stories we were doing a couple of these jokes, and we were like, alright so, hey hey bitch you may have found yourself in a situation you can't get yourself out of now you're gonna have to choose mayonnaise or light mayonnaise you hungry bitch hey bitch you ready for some pizza rolls i sure am i've had 25 already for breakfast i had some for lunch i'm about to have some for dinner with you bitch I know what you're thinking Your cholesterol is already really high The tagline and all of the punch lines take hey bitch
Starting point is 00:06:19 That was gonna be the the note that I had I was gonna be the the the note that I had It's really hard it's it's not pleasant to listen to it all no I will I always pictured myself as the person strapped to the table You should have led with that If it's that then it's funny. All right, so now picture that picture. I'm the one strapped to the table and I'm going hey bitch Hey bitch, I know you're thinking how long has it been since my last meal how long will it be until my next meal? I am hungry Don't worry you have your anniversary dinner soon. Oh, I can't wait for my nice Californian dinner. Now, Jesse was just the first of many known accomplices who would join David Parker Ray
Starting point is 00:07:13 in his incredibly wide array of sadistic criminal activities, accomplices who would participate in ways both large and small. These partners in crime, however, would share something in common with the people they victimized. To a one, each of the people we're going to discuss today could be described as lost souls, lost to substance abuse, sexual addiction, violence, or a combination of all three plus a few things extra. In other words, these were all people who had fallen through the cracks, and it's in those cracks that people like David Parker Ray and his accomplices thrive because they've also lived most of their lives in those same places. Yeah I own land inside your crack.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah you come on slip down and find me. Also was working on my hey Diddy, Diddy. That's my Texas, that's my Lubbock accent. That's your Lubbock accent? Diddy. Diddy? Hey, Diddy. He only knows one word. Yeah, and it's also not even close to correct. Uh, buddy, I watched the poop cruise fucking documentary last night, and the mothers from Lubbock, Texas, and I swear she was like,
Starting point is 00:08:17 I knew I needed to get him home to his Diddy. That is literally what the lady kept saying. I knew I had to get her home from that poo poo truce to back to his daddy. I would say she probably moved a Lubbock from somewhere else. I think she made me from bitchville. Are they always hungry there? Yeah I guess. I guess.
Starting point is 00:08:36 According to the bit. There's a poop in the bag. Poop in the bag? Honestly that's so unreasonable. It wasn't that unreasonable. We'll get whatever. I would have been so excited. I love the poop in the bag. See that ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But Roy's parents split up when he was young and by 16 Roy's life had gone off the rails. Now Roy did take drugs and drink like most of us did in high school but Roy also found that very special niche that a lot of bad angry kids found in the 1980s. A niche that would both terrify their parents and give the kids a way to make themselves feel powerful.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah! See starting in the summer of 87, Roy and his high school friends began pretending that they were members of a satanic cult by desecrating graveyards, tagging pentagrams on buildings around truth or consequences, and holding so-called black magic rituals in the nearby Sierra Mountains. What would their rituals consist of? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Unspecified. Probably just a bunch of kids chanting while I don't know listening to probably the most satanic music they had wasp Yeah, yeah like Molly crew. That's pretty evil venom venom. They didn't know venom They didn't have venom and truth or consequences you guys have no idea how hard it is to find good music out there in the fucking Wasteland those specs out there. Yeah A lot of like people playing the belly button. I'll tell you how fucking isolated it was I did not hear Nirvana until 1993 whoa Two years after nevermind and that was just because a kid from Washington State moved to our town and like brought his CDs with them
Starting point is 00:10:21 I didn't know Nirvana existed until I was 10. That's that's how isolated this shit is That's amazing. And that was in 1993. Yeah, this is 87 this five years before that It's kind of amazing that they fucking figured out how to put together a ramshackle satanic ritual that way. Honestly, it's kind of inspiring Just so you know anytime anybody mentions Satanism ever and of course is my job here is just remember that These children don't know what they're doing anybody mentioned Satanism ever and of course as my job here is just remember that These children don't know what they're doing They literally were children that were trying to scare Adults and it worked and the thing is is that they're also they're probably taking all of this imagery From the news reports and all the satanic panic bullshit that talking about satanic cults being a problem
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah It's like in the 90s when kids in Boca Raton where I grew up were drawing anarchy A's on their notebooks. It's like there's nothing anarchy about you. You live in Boca Raton. You're going to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in history class.
Starting point is 00:11:15 You have to turn this in later. Yeah. Yeah. There are quite a few kids in America spent their teenage years in the 1980s spray painting pentagrams in abandoned houses because they were bored and frustrated. I in fact saw many remnants of this trend all over my area of Texas when I was exploring abandoned structures not too far from New Mexico in the 90s and 2000s.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But Yancey's crew either took their satanic cosplay too far or Yancey found that Satanism was a convenient cover that he could use to dress up his violent urges in something that supposedly had meaning. See, in 1987, in the days leading up to Halloween, Yancey and his friends went on a canine killing spree by poisoning dogs who were exclusively owned by people with surnames starting with the letter R. Then the so-called Satanic cult left the dead bodies of those dogs on the owner's doorstep. Yancey and his friends subsequently bragged to the other kids at school that they'd Then the so-called satanic cult left the dead bodies of those dogs on the owner's doorstep. Yancey and his friends subsequently bragged to the other kids at school that they'd sacrifice these animals and rituals
Starting point is 00:12:10 that were supposed to summon the devil to truth or consequences. Why the R? It's a random fucking thing. It's just one of those things. It's like, just a weird thing to choose. Do you think it's a coincidence or they definitely chose that? They definitely chose that, but as to's the reason why who the fuck knows The one thing I think you did get wrong though is that yanty is actually pronounced? I'm sorry to correct you, but you're right. I bet you never thought that a Roy Yancy could be a prince of hell, but here he is! Yes, it be. I'm the dark prince of New Mexico. Hello!
Starting point is 00:12:57 I just keep wondering. Yancy, you're going to tell your compatriots, like, you're in're in TOC you're in T or C whatever they call it You're see you're gonna go up here. Give me like You know me and my friends we went and we made a ritual To bring the devil here to T or C and they're all like I thought the devil was already here It's my daddy It's my daddy Now this supposed satanic cult must have been getting the type of attention they wanted from their fellow students because they soon began planting
Starting point is 00:13:35 Pentagram covered letters inside the lockers of female students It said that the cult had pledged themselves to sacrificing a virgin and you better fucking think that by suck a dick You're safe. Oh, my penis made you safe. Terrible. Yeah. I don't think that makes her not a virgin either. That's the idea, is that if you make it, but if you start with the blowjobs, you work up to vaginal sex, then she's safe from the devil and she's your girlfriend. But outside of these fairly typical, if distressing, high school pranks,
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yancey and his friends were also connected to a string of burglaries in the area in which a fair amount of guns were stolen. The local DA actually formed a task force to investigate because he was worried, without evidence, that their local satanic cult was stockpiling weapons for nefarious purposes. Now there's only reason for thinking this is fear, because I can think of dozens of terroristic attacks perpetrated by gun-toting Christians all over the world. In fact, I think the number one spot is held by a very Christian man, but I can think of dozens of terrorist attacks perpetrated by gun-toting Christians all over the world. In fact, I think the number one spot is held by a very Christian man. But I can't think of a single instance of a mass shooting or a terrorist activity being perpetrated by a Satanist or a Satanic group.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's just not their style. We stay inside. Largely, we are, we're difficult to get around. A lot of, you see a lot of chronic illness. And then you see a lot of just straight up, I don't wanna fuckin', I don't even care enough about you to kill you. Mobility issues do factor in. It does, but it's that idea.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Satanists don't care about you, so why would they kill you? And it's hard for them to shoot guns with all their fingerless gloves. And the rings, my god, the rings. Yeah, the rings get away. And revenge will come for you don't you worry. But first, This dragon wings hurt.
Starting point is 00:15:10 They hurt. But in the end while the task force didn't find any guns nor did they find a satanic plot, they did hear that the satanic group may have been led by an older man named David. And it has been speculated that this David was David Parker Ray But this makes little sense because this was the exact same time period that David Parker Ray was being heavily investigated for human trafficking by the FBI and it's very hard to believe that David Parker Ray would be sending High school Satanists out on missions to steal guns while the FBI was on his ass also FBI bad job.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Super bad job. Super bad, you know, I tried to root for you, but this is, you know, this is a bad check mark. Yeah, they really fucked this up. Well, actually, I think on this one, I don't think he was trafficking women to Mexico. I think that was something that his, I think that was something that his daughter made up,
Starting point is 00:16:02 and that's specifically what they were investigating. So I think on was something that his daughter made up and that's specifically what they were What they were investigating so I think on this one. I'm not gonna get the FBI a pass necessarily But they were investigating what they were investigating and they didn't find any in any evidence It makes total sense and it almost sounds like almost in a way that they were told specifically to look for the wrong thing I mean it wasn't they were told to look for the wrong massive group rapes happening inside of the little toy box so you Oh, but that was the thing that someone could look at but that was five years before he built the toy box Yeah, yeah, that's a he didn't build the toy box. He didn't build a toy box until 1991 maybe 1993 and this all occurred in 1987 This was back when the FBI was called on David Parker, right? He was still splitting time between Phoenix and elephant Butte He hadn't even moved to elephant Butte permanently damn
Starting point is 00:16:47 Which also tells you that he had nothing to do with fucking he didn't have enough of he didn't have enough roots in the town To build a rapport with high school kids to turn them into little Satanists like it's fucking it's ridiculous to think so I'm sorry FBI Always I'm a very FBI. Always. Now while Roy Yancey never went down for satanic gun trafficking, police did arrest him and his friends after they broke into their English teacher's home so they could leave a rotting dog penis on the teacher's computer keyboard as a so-called satanic warning.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, read that. Watch out, great that Mr. Baclancy's a little bit of dog penis, all the way straight from the backyard, or all I can see! But as it is with many of these incidents... The teacher just picked it up. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do for four lunches. Ah, it's in between my teeth. Ha ha ha ha. Please, in the key of D. Dooo D. But as it is with many of these incidents, the dog penis was just a smoke screen for their ultimate goal, which was the $3,000 in property that they stole from the teacher's home. And for this, Yancey and his buddies had to spend time in juvie and write a lengthy essay
Starting point is 00:18:21 on the history of Satanism, which, depending on how much they hated homework, could have actually endeared them more to the ideology. Honestly, you sit them down with the satanic bible and they start reading and reeling as how the tenets are actually quite humanistic and very interesting. It might actually really help their empathy in many ways. It might, but it didn't. Nope. Yeah, it didn't take. No, it didn't work, no. Now Roy Yancey did clean up his act a bit when he did a stint in the Navy during the early 90s But when he returned to truth or consequence
Starting point is 00:19:13 But when he returned to Truth or Consequences in 1995 at the age of 24, the allure of the party lifestyle was too much for Roy Yancey to resist. Yancey began heavily using acid and heroin, and his penchant for partying paired with his increasingly adventurous sexual appetite caused people around Tiersi to refer to him regularly as Toyboy Roy. You just sat on my yo-yo! Hahahaha! Now Roy Yancy and Toyboy Roy are two entirely different people. Hello!
Starting point is 00:19:41 Same voice though. Toyboy Roy, I'm here boy! Well, since Roy Yancey was enough of a fixture in the tier C party scene to earn a fun nickname, he eventually ran into and became friends with who else but David Parker Ray's daughter, Jessie Ray. Sensing that Roy Yancey had just the right pep in his step that her father liked, Jessie introduced Yancey to David, which is a far more likely introduction story than the previous assumption that David had been the shadowy ringleader of Yancey's high school satanic cult. But no matter how they were introduced, Roy Yancey had, by late 1995, become a regular
Starting point is 00:20:33 fixture on the local sadomasochistic party scene that centered around David Parker Raid. This was in Yancey was in his mid-twenties. Yancey, in fact, understood and accepted the dangers of being in such a scene because he once admitted and this is actually much funnier with the voice once admitted to a friend that he was tied down and anal he raped with a broomstick at one of David's parties and yet Yancey kept returning. Hello second, I'd like a second plate please. Hello come on, that's not how you clean a butt. Hey ho. Uh oh.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Who ordered this made? Broomstick. You think you can get one of the plastic ones the woods got planted? Uh oh. Uh oh. Get the dustpan. Hey ho. I mean use the hoe.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Uh oh. Thinner rod. Fly from your grave. Now Yancey was one of the more sexually adventurous members of the truth or consequences scene, because Yancey was openly bisexual. As such, Yancey befriended and presumably, considering the evidence, had a sexual relationship with a 42-year-old truth or consequences gay man named Kenneth Lee Lane in late 1994 but the reason why I mentioned this is because the evidence shows that this relationship ended with Lane's death and it's very
Starting point is 00:21:54 Likely that Roy Yancey was the one who killed him now Kenneth Lee Lane according to his neighbors often had what they called Strange music blasting through his walls Lane also kept a fair amount of women's wigs in his apartment as well as a large cardboard cutout of Elvira, which from what I've learned from years of watching Drag Race, all spells Drag Queen in letters 500 feet tall. I just think he was a sensitive man that liked to party and he just happened to like something that wasn't Merle Haggart. It's the music, it's the wigs, and it's the Elvira. Yeah! The drag queens love Elvira. Oh, I know! Massively so.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Oh, I know! Also, strange music is probably just like what we call decent music. Decent music, yeah. It's probably just good disco. Yeah. And indeed, Kenneth Lee Lane may have participated in whatever drag scene nearby Albuquerque may have had at the time, but Roy Yancey allegedly put an end to whatever fun Kenneth Lee Lane might have been having in a most brutal fashion. See, Yancey was leaving Lane's apartment on December 26, 1995, and the neighbors remembered that
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yancey had left the apartment with an unusually large smile on his face. Good morning, Mr. Peterson! Oh, I see the lawn's looking nice! I'm on my way to the ice cream parlor. Bye bye. Happy boxing day. Please get rid of that guy. It took six days before the smell of decomposition began to seep through to the next department through the heating vents and when police broke the door down they found Lane's dead body in the front room. But in another instance of homophobic cops writing off an obvious murder as these gays sure are weird, Lane's death was ruled as accidental. This was despite the fact that Lane's autopsy revealed that he had died from metal poisoning because an assortment of nuts and bolts were found in his stomach in addition to a doorknob being shoved in his rectum.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It's an accident. Oh, you know how these gays with their hardware parties, where they all show up and they just eat wrenches, and they eat nails and nuts and bolts and stools. And the thing they say to each other is, how do we make each other furniture? And that is one of the worst things you can imagine, a man wanting to be a lamp. What are our boys fucking killing children in Vietnam for? I've been trying to tell these gays, use your hands to open the door. We were playing a game of lying witches in the watch robe, trying to see if I could turn them into a magical closet.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Now when the landlord cleaned out Lane's apartment He discovered some old blood spatter patterns drawings of pentagrams on a table and a few black candles now We know this is probably just harmless experimentation getting witchy on the weekends as people like to do But the rumor began to spread that Lane had been killed in an occult ritual. What would these fuckers have thought of my house? Walked into my house. I just I would just I guess look like king of the LA pedophiles All this shit like okay Too many pentagrams Yeah, I do remember one time we had hired someone to clean our apartment in New York and the lady
Starting point is 00:25:03 left immediately after walking into my office because, without saying a single word, because it scared her so much. Good. I felt bad, I felt so bad. I just wanted to say it's like, it's ornamental! My wonderful handyman, we worked together all the time, Arturo is a genius, but he literally was like, he pointed once, he was like, El Diablo.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I said, Si. And Nesta Costa, El Diablo was bueno. Ah, Si. Ah, Si. But even if Lane had been killed in an occult ritual, then the cops had a suspect with a history of using occult trappings to intimidate others, Roy Yancey. And Roy Yancey was the last one who saw the deceased alive. And yet, it would be another 13 years before the case would even be investigated as a murder. And that was, of course, after David Parker Ray and
Starting point is 00:25:59 the rest were caught. Now there's really no mystery as to whether or not David Parker Ray and Jesse Ray committed murders in the toy box. And that's because Roy Yancey told investigators that he participated in a murder inside the toy box when it was very much in Roy's best interest to say that he was not involved. As the story goes, a 21-year-old mother of two named Marie Parker went missing after hanging out with David, Jesse, and Roy in 1996. Marie was another lost soul who'd run away from T or C at the age of 14, but she'd returned to town
Starting point is 00:26:33 pregnant after five years of drifting. Marie met David Parker Ray's crew. Not Tokyo drifting. Southwest drifting, much worse. That's on a horsing buggy, right? I think it's in a shopping cart. Or a hand cart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's in the bed of a truck. Well, Marie met David Parker Ray's crew through Jessie Ray, and within months of entering their circle, Marie had smoked enough meth to become homeless. She also began dating Roy Yancy, but the two of them broke up when Marie tried getting clean. I don't like you sober! David Parker
Starting point is 00:27:09 Ray, however, gave Marie an army tent and he let her stay on his campsite by the beach at Elephant Butte Lake. But from what it sounds like, David, Roy Yancey, and Jesse Ray were merely saving Marie for a Fourth of July special. Now if Fourth of July at Elephant Buick Lake in the 90s was anything like my childhood holidays at Lake Snafuhr during the same time period, the environment would have been absolute heaven for a chaotic soul. These are the best memories of my childhood. You see, you like this, this sounds deeply frightening. These are easily the happiest times of my childhood.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It's like the Fourth of July and the time surrounding Fourth of July at the lake. Why? Because you were just let out to do whatever the hell it is you want to do? Pure fucking chaos everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fourth of July in these southwestern lake towns during the 90s? Utter fucking mayhem. I mean, I just think it's the 90s, because I remember spending Fourth of July up in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's when I learned that you could shoot bottle rockets out of PBC pipes, but not in a good way. Yeah In a way that was very damaging to me, but I was like, you know what? I'm gonna use this on by someone else Oh, yeah, dude, myself I mean, thankfully all the scars that I had from this time period are all healed up and man I had a lot of them a lot of burn a lot of burn scars I mean every doc had a pile of fireworks being set off without any care for safety. And every adult was too fucking drunk to supervise or even care about what the kids were doing. Today, we call it neglect. Back then, we called it fun.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That's right. But I only bring that up to demonstrate that these places in this period of time were pandemonium factories and some very dark shit could go down amidst the noise and spectacle. Now pretty soon after the fireworks ended on July 4th, David Parker Ray arrived in a furious mood at the campsite where Marie had been living in David's army tent. See the night before Marie and Roy had rekindled their relationship over a meth pipe with Jesse and they'd all made quite the mess as a result.
Starting point is 00:29:07 As was rare for David, he lost his shit and yelled at Jessie in front of everyone that she, Roy, and Marie were jeopardizing his good reputation at the Parks Department. This of course also gave David justification for what he and the others were about to do to Marie, because David could now paint Marie as a quote-unquote problem. According to Yancy's confession, Marie told her brother that she was going to Blue Water Saloon on July 5th to score meth, which is where she ran into Jessie and Yancy. Unbeknownst to Marie though, Jessie and Yancy had arrived there that night specifically to find her. After a few minutes of conversation, the trio hopped in Jesse's
Starting point is 00:29:46 truck and drove to the local cemetery to engage in the long and storied southwestern tradition of doing a meth deal in a graveyard. I don't know why, but yesterday I just became obsessed with the phrase meth deal in a graveyard. Meth deal in a graveyard. Just kept saying it over and over again. Meth deal in a graveyard. I loved it it well now you need to write an album dude that's your fucking debut deal in a graveyard yeah okay well you're stripped down in a hotel room with just a drum set and your voice I start from that point and build yes but once they got to the cemetery, there was no meth deal to be had. Grrrr!
Starting point is 00:30:25 I hate when that happens! Yeah, I got damn it and I came all the way out here and I'm tired y'all! Instead, Jesse took out a handgun and handcuffed Marie while Roy Yancy stood nearby to make sure Marie didn't run for it. After Marie was subdued, she was driven back to David Parker Ray's Toy Box where Jessie and David led her inside. Now Roy says that he didn't participate in the torture and rape of Marie Parker, but he fully admitted that he knew what purpose the Toy Box served, and he could certainly guess at what Jessie and David were up to in there for three days straight.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Give me three guesses! But while Roy claims he didn't enter at any point during the rape and torture, he was invited inside right at the end, when Jesse and David told Yancey that it was time for Marie to go. So at midnight on July 9th, Roy entered the toy box to find his sometime girlfriend naked, blindfolded, gagged, and bound to a cot. Jesse then handed Roy a rope and told him that he knew what he had to do. A supposed figuring he was in too deep
Starting point is 00:31:27 as an accomplice at this point, Yancey began to choke Marie with the rope. But as we all know, death by strangulation, even with the rope, can take an uncomfortable amount of time, especially if your heart's not in it. Stop looking at me! Stop watching me! I can't be micro managed like this! When things weren't moving along fast enough, Yancey put his knee on Marie's chest for extra leverage and used every bit of his strength to choke the life out of her body before she finally went limp.
Starting point is 00:32:01 After Marie was killed, the three conspirators wrapped her naked corpse in a blanket and snuck it out to Jesse's truck under cover of darkness. The body was loaded up and driven with fair certainty to a remote area north of Elephant Butte, a place called Monticello Canyon. And when I say with fair certainty, I mean they knew exactly where the fuck they were going. Roy watched Jesse and David unroll Marie's body from the blanket before hurling it off the side of the ravine. But after the body landed at the bottom, Jesse and David scrambled down to conceal the corpse in a burial mound of sorts with loose gravel.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Once it was all over, David and Jesse told Roy Yancey that if he told anyone about what happened that night, he'd be the next to die. So they never found that body? That to die so they never found that body That no they never found that body even though they know where it is It's suspected that David Parker a later moved it okay Yeah, and then who knows someone who could also the animals could have got to it You know maybe who knows just loose gravel coyotes just ripping it apart and this man out there. It's nothing but coyotes This is fucking coyotes everywhere, so yeah quite possible that and there's also big cats
Starting point is 00:33:06 There's a lot of things that could have got to that body and drag dogs. Yeah a lot of birds There's some snakes Forg Pound scorpions The Jesse and Roy probably paranoid from the meth and filled with the urge to leave because they were the last people seen with Marie Parker, they drove thousands of miles the very next day to the Texas coastal town of Galveston where they basically lived homeless on the beach for the next year. Wow. Yeah. Well, it was one of those things where like Roy Yancey came back and was like, you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:33:39 believe it, I lived with homeless people on the beach the whole time. That means that you, sir, were homeless. No, I was just roommates with a homeless person. I know that the distinction is hard to understand, that's like what this voice is. It's a bit of a master shake. Well as it turned out, there really hadn't been a lot of heat to escape in the first place. Marie had been reported missing even before Yancey murdered her, yes, but very little was done after the police found her Geo Metro abandoned in the parking lot of the bar where she'd last been seen alive.
Starting point is 00:34:20 In fact, the official file in her disappearance didn't even name Roy and Jesse as the people Marie had left with. They didn't even get the genders right. Instead, the report said that Marie had left with two cowboys in a two-tone brown pickup. One of Marie's friends did say that she knew that Marie Parker was dead after Marie Parker went missing, and she also said that she knew that Jesse Ray probably had something to do with it. But as it has happened countless times and will happen countless times more
Starting point is 00:34:48 Marie Parker was deemed not worthy of a full investigation Partly because the cops have been told that she'd been out looking for drugs on the night. She went missing Now while Jesse Ray and Roy Yancey are certainly villains in their own right they both at the very least Villains in their own right they both at the very least seem to have shown at least the tiniest bit of reluctance Before fully crossing over into David Parker Ray's world that however was not the case with David's future girlfriend Cindy Hindi it seems that whatever goes along with a Predator person's choice of victim like the way that they do that It actually also it kind of is the same way that they choose accomplices.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Because the same way that they can suss out who they can sort of con, they sort of also can kind of suss out who's got that X factor that's like me. Very much so. And Cindy Hendy just like arrived picture perfect. Oh yeah, no, they can definitely tell who's safe to let in. Yes. Now by the time Cindy Hendy showed up in Truth or Consequences at the age of 37,
Starting point is 00:35:51 and that was a hard 37. Yeah. She was what you'd call a permanently out of pocket human being. For example, Cindy had fled to New Mexico in the first place from Washington State because she disobeyed a court order to enter rehab. Cindy had already spent some time in prison. She didn't really want to go back to prison, but she also didn't want to slow down the partying.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So Cindy abandoned her two children and headed straight for the town of truth or consequences, where Cindy knew she would be amongst other similarly out-of-pocket individuals. She literally probably looked at a map. It's just like, oh yeah, sure, which was I'm trying to do my Janice voice. Yeah, what's the Janice voice? Yeah, so it's like the idea she just was like where God go get the most fucked up yeah Yeah, man, like that's yeah, man. Let's fucking do it. Let's go to true the man, like that's how I'm like, yeah man, let's fucking do it, let's go to truth or consequences man That's how I, yeah, that's how I imagine it. Oddly enough, best thing that happened to those kids.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Seriously, they dodged a fucking bullet. Well, they did visit truth or consequence, one of them visited truth or consequences once, but called her grandmother after like two days and said, get me the fuck out of here. This is, these people are abusing me and this is a hellish nightmare. Yeah, we don't like it here. It's all consequences. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. Yeah. Now upon her arrival in T or C, Cindy Hendy quickly established a partying reputation that was considered hardcore even amongst local standards. Cindy came to be known as Six Pack Cindy because a six pack was all you needed to get with Cindy. Cool! Self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Cindy was also rumored to be earning money through sex work but she claimed openly and loudly she never had to worry about being arrested because she quote-unquote had something on most of the police and businessmen in truth or consequences. It's chlamydia. I got some, yeah man I got it on them, I got it in them, I got it everywhere. I got it on there, on the sheets, on my legs. Cindy's arrival in town however was somewhat serendipitous. See David Parker Ray could have never handled a woman like Cindy with his chronic impotence. Hey spaghetti disease.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I got rigatonia downstairs. That don't mean I got meatballs upstairs. But in 1997, right around the time Cindy showed up, David Parker Ray very unfortunately received a prescription for Viagra. Dudes fucking rock. Hey, that's fucking awesome. Thanks to Pfizer. We also reach out.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Honestly, we heard last podcast in the left. We want to say thank you, Pfizer, for all of the wonderful things you've added just to our show today. Yeah. And this is back in the day when people were still getting, when registered sex offenders were still getting Viagra off of their government insurance. Really? Yes, it stopped in 2005.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Wow. Wow. Wow. Really? Yes, it stopped in 2005. Wow! Wow! Wow! You know what though? A couple years of freedom, that's all we can guarantee here in America. God, can you just imagine being, because that's what's hard, is that like, even as a, hmm. How are you going to say it? The idea of starting my day hard as an offender, It's just like you're already going to get hard. You're definitely going to get super, super hard over something super inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Why are you getting extra hard on it? But no, that's the thing is that David Parker Ray didn't get hard, but he was still an offender. So getting hard doesn't necessarily correlate to being an offender. Chickatilla, Andre Tickatilla as well. There was so much Viagra everywhere back then. I remember like we used to, it used to be all over my school in high school around this same time period. That's insane It's really crazy. I remember we talked one kid and then taking it before football practice David before the Viagra he'd always seemed kind of standoffish to his co-workers the park they all consider David to be a bit of a loner kind of a
Starting point is 00:39:56 dull guy but mostly David was seen as a scrounger who was concerned with taking home broken equipment and spare parts from around the park. Little did his co-workers know, however, that David was actually using those abandoned and broken components from Elephant Butte State Park to build the majority of his homemade torture devices. But once David started taking Viagra, his fellow employees said that David became much friendlier and was much more talkative about his sex life. Howdy y'all. Dating, huh? It sucks. What do you even do? Everybody's talking about height right? I'm a bit of a sharp-dressed man. He was. He started adorning himself in turquoise jewelry. He started wearing cowboy hats. This is all the
Starting point is 00:40:37 want of your average New Mexican whitey. He just finally had the money to do it. Yeah and the dick. Now it's been the hardest parts honestly because I hate being a hypocrite. I don't want to be some big old dandy man if I'm not just using a mutant power drill and a tied down woman. Now at least I can get hard as well watching it all happen and goddamn it has done so much for my self-esteem. And no one else has done well for my self-esteem is these rattlesnake suspenders. Viagra may cause many side effects including... I'm David Parker Ray for Viagra. For Viagra. A Pfizer company. I take nine every morning, I hang out in the toy box and wait. Now not too
Starting point is 00:41:22 long after David got his Viagra prescription, Roy Yancy and Jesse Ray felt comfortable enough to return to Tier C from Galveston. Jesse moved back in with her father Elephant Butte, while Roy Yancy got a roommate in town. Jesse and Roy also quickly rejoined the Tier C bar scene. There they met and bonded with new arrival Cindy Hendy so quickly that both Roy Yancey and Jessie started dating Cindy at the same time and all three of them would go back to David Parker Ray's trailer to fuck. So Cindy was dating everybody?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Well at this point she's not quite dating David Parker Ray yet, she starts with Roy and Jesse. So she's fucking his daughter and his co-killer. Okay. And then she graduates to him. Eventually, yeah. She's got to work her way up to Davey. I mean yeah, you can't go after the big dog first. Yeah, dude. No, you got to show you got the middle. Show you can handle it. Show you got enough vagina.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Now the arrival of Cindy Hindy into the T or C party scene is one of those chance meetings that would feel like destiny if the only consequences for the stars aligning weren't just women being raped and murdered. That's true poetry. Actually, I think it shows that synchronicities do not make distinctions between good and evil. Well, Roy Yancey, he soon began bragging to his friends that Cindy Hindy liked being handcuffed and beaten up.
Starting point is 00:42:43 But Yancey soon discovered that Cindy, she also not only liked it the other way around, but she liked it the other way around non-consensually. Roy Yancey would wake up in the middle of the night to find Cindy beating him, and once he was jolted awake, he would find that Cindy had handcuffed him as well. So Roy had no choice but to let Cindy satisfy herself so he could eventually be let free. As we said last episode, David Parker Ray could be very charming in his own elephant beaut fashion, but once Viagra came into the mix, David gained a newfound confidence.
Starting point is 00:43:17 As such, David and his daughter Jessie began inviting swaths of local women and tourists from around the T or C area onto David's sailboat where they would take long expeditions that were women only except for David these expeditions came to be known as ladies days But the reason why I bring up ladies days is because ladies ladies ladies days is just it sounds like I mean Yeah, well ladies days. It just sounds like yeah all those like ladies like that
Starting point is 00:43:47 You have like wild horse prairie days back home. There's always the days that this one's awful Many ladies on each day many days. So it's ladies days Every day has many ladies and there are many days Well, the interesting thing about the days is that sometimes the days will be only one day yeah yeah but that is but then there's a series of them throughout the month he was given it could have been da Z well very true very cute well the reason why I bring up yeah that's the cutest roofie joke I've ever heard but the reason why I bring up ladies days is because on one ladies day in particular
Starting point is 00:44:27 David gave one of his passengers insight into why none of the bodies of David's victims have ever been found. On one voyage David began a conversation with one of his young female passengers by pointing out the deepest areas of the lake, which in my opinion leans on the implication a little too hard. It's not flirting. No, yeah Now after pointing out the deepest points of the lake David began pontificating on the best ways to dispose of a human body Within said lake he told this young girl that a man could open up the chest of a corpse and fill it with rocks as ballast
Starting point is 00:44:59 Okay Yeah, theoretically. Yeah And theoretically the chest cavity would then need to be bound tightly with chicken wire. So the rocks... Chicken's good. That way the rocks can never come loose. Theoretically. Yeah, that sounds like a good theory.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And finally, the body would be dropped overboard to sink to the bottom of the lake where David said, quote, The catfish would enjoy a three-star meal. That sounds like fun. I want a nice meal. I like catfish It's interesting to me that he chose three star. Yeah Doesn't even appreciate the meal well That's the thing is that he knows that it's not the best meal that a catfish could have yeah best thing a catfish can eat His corn meal which tells you that you thought about it a lot Yeah, but how now we're not putting all these this like, how'd a catfish feel about it?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Are they liking it? Now Roy Yancey was also invited on David's boat from time to time, but being bisexual, Roy would also sometimes bring his roommate, a guy also named David. This is David! Because Roy- You twins!
Starting point is 00:45:58 Because Roy was also banging David. Now roommate David immediately got the shiver jimmies when he met Jesse and serial killer David and he tried his best to get Roy Yancy to stop hanging out with him. Roy however insisted, nah they're cool and he therefore kept up the friendship. That's actually what he's doing, he's like nah they're cool, whatever. Now if a friend is telling you that your other friends are bad news and it's not like a valley girl situation where they just don't like his clothes or where he's from.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah it's not making fun of him for having androids Yeah, like don't be stubborn because there's a big difference between he's bad because he dresses weird and he's bad because I get The feeling that an ancient evil lurks within his soul. That's what I like about him Yeah, just cuz someone's nice to you and if everyone else says they're horrible just give it a leather lesson Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just think about it. But despite his own warnings, roommate David figured, Alright, fuck it. If you say they're cool, they're cool.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But that surrender led roommate David into being a witness to some pretty fucked up and highly incriminating shit on serial killer David's boat one dark evening. Hey Roy, just so you know, roommate Dave doesn't really want to be key witness Dave. Okay, so let's get the hell out of here. I have no idea what I'm even doing in this town. But I do like being on a boat. This is nice. I always said you never do anything nice, we never do anything nice. So in this, I have to give you credit. But otherwise, it's a bad boat.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Well, during one particularly boozy night, Roy and roommate David were invited to a party on David Parker Ray's boat, along with Jessie Ray, Cindy Hendy, some dude named George, and a woman named Angelica Montano. Before long, the partygoers were smoking dope, drinking beer and whiskey, and in some cases, shooting heroin. All while David Parker Ray blasted Pink Floyd on his big ass battery powered boombox 90s style.
Starting point is 00:47:51 One of these days I'm going to cut you up into little pieces. Oh yeah, that is a Pink Floyd line. Yeah. No, but these guys just hello Yeah, sure just that over and over oh, yeah very much all the all the spacey stuff Yeah But it must be said that while David Parker a might have supplied the drugs during these parties and he may have been a notorious Jane-smoker he was never seen drinking even so much as a single beer himself
Starting point is 00:48:22 Same thing they said about Manson Mans Manson was, at least near the end, Manson was always sober. Yeah, David Parker. Yeah, David Parker is the same way. Uh, John Wayne Gacy. I thought he was hammered on coke and weed all the time. He would, but then sometimes he would, if he knew that he had a bunch of dudes and he pretended to drink. Oh, yes. It depended on how, with Gacy, it depended on how on his toes he felt like he needed to be yes and David Parker Ray felt like he needed to be on his toes all the time Because he was a true predator. He was always Looking out for that opportunity and I think with him because you know on these boat on the boat The crazy thing about is that they said that like hundreds of girls came on to David Parker Ray's boat and nothing happened to him
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, they just wait. he just took money from them, essentially, he used it as a little job. If even that, like sometimes it was just hanging out with David and Cindy on the boat. I, with David Parker Ray, he, I think, stayed sober at all times so he could be clear-headed enough to recognize if he could attack a woman and get away with it.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Like he didn't wanna make, he didn't wanna make any foolish mistakes Now a lot of these guys drink afterwards the cope did he do that even or no states over the whole lease over Oh, he didn't feel guilt. No, there's no guilt here. No, no, he believed that all humans were tools to be used Now as it almost always went with a David Parker Ray party shit started getting dark when the clothes started coming off Parker Ray party, shit started getting dark when the clothes started coming off. Jessie, Cindy, and newcomer Angelica all began stripping, but very suddenly Angelica, who was almost certainly on heroin, she found herself being handcuffed and stretched out on a long table by Cindy and Jessie. As roommate
Starting point is 00:49:57 David looked on in stunned horror, Jessie quickly grabbed a camcorder and began videotaping, while Roy Yancey grabbed a cattle prod to shock Angelica's genitals While Cindy held her down now that is indeed fucked up But what's almost just as fucked up is that Roy Yancy was surprised to see that his roommate David held the opinion that tying a drugged Naked woman down and shocking her genitals with a cattle prod was a fucked up thing to do I thought we were going on the wine tour. I thought that we were going to go to a spa or something. Yeah, then Roy's like, what's the big deal?
Starting point is 00:50:32 This is what we do for fun. We ride the boat. We're sailing. It's ladies days. This is how you sail. No, he did actually tell him he's like, oh, no, it's just a sex thing. Like, what are you freaked out about? People like this.
Starting point is 00:50:43 People like it. They enjoy it. Come on. Yeah, I mean, technically, if everybody's consenting, it's just a sex thing like what are you freaked out about people like this people like it. They enjoy it Come on. Yeah, I mean technically if everybody's consenting, it's fine You just need to sort of clear that with everybody Yeah, but roommate David was like I don't think she's consenting. No, I don't think she wants to be I don't think she wants this To happen to no, I don't think so also at the very least the word cattle should never be brought into a sexual situation People like to zap their their penises and their vaginas. I've seen it. Yeah, we'll do it Yeah, people do it people people people sometimes love it. Okay, sir. Ah, sir But in the end Angelica survived the night and woke up in a terrible state
Starting point is 00:51:23 After the abuse she suffered. She was, however, too afraid to go to the police and her incredibly intense drug addiction would ensure that this was not the last time she would cross paths with David Parker Ray's crew. See, from what it seems like Cindy and Jessie use their gender as assertive lure to make girls like Angelica comfortable. As always, it's the same game played by so many other couples who kill. Basically, having a girl present makes a possible victim more likely to take a chance, and they are therefore more likely to get in the car with the creepy old man. And to that point, as I said, David, Cindy, and Jesse regularly brought home young
Starting point is 00:52:00 female hitchhikers and a girl who spent a lot of time on David's boat said that it was possible that Hundreds of other girls may have passed through David Parker Ray's world with varying degrees of molestation and murder It was his entire life. Yeah, he dedicated every why he moved to elephant Butte Yes, he dedicated every minute of his life to his to the sexual game. Yeah, and it is We've covered a lot of guys, we've made fun of them, we've, you know, we've always kind of talked about this idea, especially with serial killing,
Starting point is 00:52:30 it comes out of extreme mediocrity, this is no different, but David Parker Ray was actually, unfortunately, very good at this. And this is an example of somebody that went a real long time without anybody being caught. And it's kind of one of those really very scary things of how many other David Parker Rays were out there and are currently out there. Yeah, David Parker Ray was caught at the age of 59. And he built the toy box, I think, around the time he turned 50.
Starting point is 00:53:02 So, you know, there was still, you know, still 49 years who knows what the fuck he was doing like, you know We talked about it a little bit last episode But there's really not a whole lot known about his life up until that point And you know, there are a lot of these guys as you said are born out of mediocrity I don't think David Parker Ray was I think David Parker Ray lived life exactly how we wanted to live it at all times And was very pleased with himself because of it and that's fucking terrifying You know that there's many men out there like that Now by Halloween of 1998 David Parker a and Jesse through a small party at their trailer that supposedly included a black magic
Starting point is 00:53:36 Sacrificed the devil Cindy was reportedly all in when it came to black magic after Roy Yancey had allegedly Introduced her to the occult, and she was excited that David had picked out a dress specifically for her to wear that night. This night, it seems, was a turning point for Cindy. It could be that Cindy Hendy saw David Parkere as the more powerful man in the group, because it was around Halloween of 1998 that Cindy stopped seeing Roy Yancey so she could move in with David on a casual basis Although Cindy was also still seeing David's daughter, Jesse
Starting point is 00:54:09 So to make it absolutely clear for those of you not familiar with these sorts of situations Cindy was casually living in David Parker raised double-wide while carrying on a sexual relationship with both David and David's own daughter all while they lived in the same domicile. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. There's barely a door in that place. And a double-wide? Yeah. They've got a couple of bedrooms in a double-wide. Hey, when daddy and daughter are fucking the same person who needs a door Proofing it all is just daddy teaching daughter. It's I don't know why I thought he had a home like a house I meant house. I meant house. Yeah. Yeah, yeah double. Yeah, double. It's definitely a home in double It's it's pretty big. You can really knock it in there. You can really nail it in the ground. It's twice as wide I get it
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, and got it so long it's wide it's long good footage in a double white is surprising a lot of stuff you could do in double wide even though Cindy was now technically with David Parker Ray the new living situation didn't preclude Roy Yancey from engaging in sexual dalliances with Cindy within said double wide That November Cindy hired the local grocery store owner a guy named Rick Hart to take some sexy shots of her in David's trailer Because Rick the grocer also thought of himself something of a photographer. Yes. I call my You want two for one squashed? Two for one squashed, huh?
Starting point is 00:55:44 I come, I take naked pictures of your father and daughter. Fuck woman. Excuse me, did you take the pictures of these grapes? Yeah! Yeah, you like the shine, you like the grease on them? Listen, I think I have a... This seems crazy to ask, but... Let me guess, you're fucking your father's girlfriend, huh?
Starting point is 00:56:00 And you want me to take nude pictures of you, your father, and your daughter in one big fuck kind of triangle? Oh my god. I will do it for free! You just please, two for one squash! I'll buy the squash. Two for one squash! What a salesman.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Well, Rick the grocer obliged and took some very flesh world like photos of Cindy. Play with your father's balls boy. These are solo shots. This is just Cindy in the trailer by herself like nude. Very classy. Very classy. But when Rick came back a few nights later to deliver the photos Cindy was waiting with David and Roy Yancey. Rick
Starting point is 00:56:45 the grocer was instructed to take photos of all three of them being intimate with each other. So Rick happily obliged by shooting images of Roy sucking Cindy's nipple while Cindy was naked, all while David looked on from the cuck chair with approval. Hey David, bigger smile! Big smile! Big smile. You love to watch the nipple get sucked. Big smile. It ain't getting any bigger than this. It ain't getting any bigger than this. Rick, it ain't getting any bigger. Okay, now Roy, when I say you're a sucker nipple, what I need you do, you put entire breast and mouth, suck whole breast into mouth.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Okay, I don't need to breathe it down my neck. David, what is this looking on your face? Are you sleeping? Are you sleeping? Now later, Rick would defend his photos of Cindy as tasteful sexy. Yeah! Those are his exact words. You can barely choke off.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You can barely choke off with so much class. He said that his work in the trailer was more akin to college girls flashing at spring break, which to me means that Rick the Grocer would also describe A Girl's Gone Wild tape as tasteful sexy. One of my favorite food videos I've ever seen is the Yucatiz Two Young Ladies, and they And they have one cup that they share Man comes in one provides But You asked two for one. You want some of these old grapes? But Rick, he wasn't turned off by the photo shoot at all.
Starting point is 00:58:28 He actually got to know his clients pretty well over the next few months. Or so he thought. He actually believed that David Parker Ray was the victim here, because in Rick's view, Roy Yancey and Cindy Handy were taking advantage of a sweet if incredibly horny older man in his late 50s You stop fooling that fucking big tall thrift I see what you do man with silly voice lady who looks like muppet You know you should start taking advantage of that very kind man very nice man taking advantage of that very kind man very nice man who fucked me with broomstick. I asked him to. I begged him to. David you come now live with Rick you now live with Rick you
Starting point is 00:59:11 come with me now. Come with me now this is what I them grapes. Cindy did not keep her exhibitionist impulses to the trailer, and as an out-of-pocket person, Cindy didn't seem to be able to control these impulses no matter where she was. One of the best examples came from one of Cindy's friends, a woman named Jean, who said that Cindy showed up to her house in December of 1998 just as Jean's kids were trimming the Christmas tree. Cindy arrived in the afternoon with a girl named Trish, but both of them were already highly intoxicated. Hi, huh? Merry Christmas, John! Yeah, man, Merry Christmas! It's not fucking Christmas unless you're drunk by four!
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah! Merry Trishmish! Ha ha ha! Relatively quickly, Cindy was lifting up her shirt to show her bare breasts, which were heavily bruised from the extensive use of a bondage suction device. This is a sucking device! And as the children looked on in wonder, Cindy began making out with her friend, and it was at this point that Gene asked them to leave. Merry Christmas it's been a fun night. Thank you so much for
Starting point is 01:00:30 coming. Thank you so much for the gifts. They're gonna love the little baby bottles of Smirnoff. Me too. I say it all. I say it to myself all the time. Get out of here. Live from your grave. Now Cindy moved in permanently with David Parker Ray in January of 1999. She decided this was the guy for her. Because really David Parker Ray by Elephant Butte standards, he's a catch.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You know, he's not, he's got most of his teeth, he's got a really well paying job, he wants to take care of ya. A toy box? Yep, a full one man, and obviously a double one. That's two more than one. But one question listeners might have is how David Parker Ray was able to hide his activities in the toy box if the trailer was plopped down right there in the front yard. Well the simple answer is, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:27 By the time Cindy moved in, David had already spent months carefully training her on the best ways to help him kidnap and torture a woman. But notice that I said training, not grooming. David didn't have to groom or convince Cindy of anything, because for her, the whole toy box experience was absolutely thrilling. Consequently after Cindy moved in she told David that they should kidnap a woman soon so they could experience these thrills together. As far as who their first victim together would be, Cindy, or at least the first one
Starting point is 01:02:01 we know of, Cindy looked through her contacts and came up with the woman that they'd previously victimized on David's boat with the cattle prod, Angelica Montano. See, Angelica had stayed friends with Cindy even after the attack on the boat, which a mutual friend of theirs had chalked up to a shared interest in drugs. Cindy and David had drugs, so Angelica looked past what had happened on the boat to get the drugs. So in February of 1999, Angelica was speaking with Cindy on the phone, and Angelica lamented that she couldn't afford to buy her boyfriend a cake for his upcoming birthday. This innocent lamentation became, for some reason, the needlessly complicated web that Cindy would use to entrap Angelica for the purpose of sexual slavery.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Not through cake! Yes, it's all through cake. Cindy promised to give Angelica a box of cake mix that Cindy had at her trailer, if Angelica agreed to meet with her and David at the courthouse in truth or consequences after a hearing that the two of them needed to attend. Angelica agreed, but on David and Cindy's arrival Cindy slapped her forehead and said oh Biscuits I forgot the cake mix back at the trailer Yeah So Cindy told Angelica that they could all drive back to Elephant Butte to pick up the cake mix and they then give
Starting point is 01:03:15 Angelica a ride back to truth or consequences so she could make the cake herself But that is not how things went down at all 98 Box of cakes mix is like a dollar fifty. Angelica ain't doing well. No, she's not doing well and let me just say I don't know if it's necessarily about the cake mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Angelica's doing very, very poorly. Now once they got to the trailer David grabbed a dagger, held it to Angelica's throat and told her that she was being abducted. At first Angelica
Starting point is 01:03:44 thought David was just pulling a bad prank, but she soon realized how much trouble she was in after David punched her in the mouth and her supposed friend Cindy held a gun to her head. Before long, Angelica was naked with a padlocked silver collar around her neck, chained to the bars on either side of David and Cindy's bed inside the trailer where they both lived. This strangely enough would become a pattern for David and Cindy's bed inside the trailer where they both lived. This, strangely enough, would become a pattern for David and Cindy. The abduction would begin in the double wide, where torture and molestation would take place for a day, sometimes two, sometimes three, but the toy box would be saved until the end
Starting point is 01:04:16 as a sort of grand finale. So after putting a leather gimp mask on Angelica's head, David played his induction tape in his and Cindy's bedroom, and once it was done, Cindy forced Angelica to swallow a roofie at gunpoint. Angelica lost consciousness, but when she woke up, she, in a very unsettling scene, found David and Cindy simply watching TV. Pivot! Pivot! I love this episode of Friends.
Starting point is 01:04:42 We're doing the pivot thing. Ross is so fun. Ross and Rachel, they're just, I don't know. Is that the one where they move the couch? Yeah, that's the one that gets stuck on the stairwell. I just can't get enough of the chandelier has got my butt in a sling. You know, he's funny as hell. I get it, man.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Snarky as hell. I don't know how they're not all laughing at his jokes. In the scene. God, dude, that's a lot of TV to get into for an entire roofie to pass and go by. Yeah. Now, Angelica was kept in the main house under Cindy's watch when David went to work the next morning. But Angelica soon discovered that Cindy didn't really do much of anything with her day. Cindy just sat there watching soap operas and only once offered Angelica food, a shared burrito, which Angelica of course didn't want. All she wanted
Starting point is 01:05:30 was to be set free. So she sat there all day chained up begging Cindy to unlock the chains. Now, they like, it's kind of insane how people's behavior is the same, like no matter what they're into because when David came home from work that night He said he's just too tired to really do anything. Yeah, he's just he's just always just wore out Yeah, yeah, so David sat naked from the waist down in a t-shirt What we call the bad daddy special while he and Cindy watched part one of Stephen King's Storm of the century three part mini series on TV while Angelica was still chained to the wall. Well, I guess me and them are alike in that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Because my family also sat and watched the Stephen King storm of the Century when it first came out that night as well. I'm sure your father had no pants on. Oh, no, he definitely didn't. He wore bikini briefs though, because honestly, he might want to lay a couple of paper towels down. Did he have a... did your dad do the bikini briefs and the T-shirt thing no sure yeah bikini briefs Oh, that's what it was forever, and then he only had to put clothes on if my sister's friends were coming Yeah, yeah, yeah the dudes it didn't matter similar. Yeah, yeah similar at my home. Yeah, my dad was all tight He whities and like I yeah like a Homer Simpson t-shirt. Yeah, it's probably the same exact outfit Yeah, bad daddy special bad daddy special
Starting point is 01:06:46 Technically though now the bad daddy specials when it's no tighty-whities Yeah, just full nake is yeah, just the dicks hanging out and you're just wearing the t-shirt porky picking it So it was mine was the regular daddy special regular dad special yeah Father dress yes get out of the house father's cock. I love seeing father's cock. Now at one point, Cindy left to go get groceries, which was the first time since the abduction that Angelica had been alone with David. In another incongruous moment though, Angelica asked David for a hug and David surprisingly reciprocated.
Starting point is 01:07:20 He held her tenderly and reassured her that nothing bad was going to happen. But once Storm of the Century Part One was was finished David began rambling about the various crimes He committed over the years crimes most murderous David told Angelica that he'd killed an ex-girlfriend and he'd killed the ex-girlfriend's little son But this was only after he turned the ex-girlfriend's 10 year old daughter into a sex slave David also said that he'd once killed a man in his trailer, but then David began complaining about how much of a mess the murder had made because he'd shot him in the head. This murder, we understand, was most likely the killing of David's former boss, Billy Ray Bowers.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Now listen to me run my mouth. Liz and the majors run my mouth. I'm sorry, must be a bore nail idea. How much do you think of this is the truth or him just trying to scare her? No idea Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like I know he did he definitely killed Billy Ray Bowers And he's it's most likely that he killed him in his trailer because David said it and then later Cindy like said the same thing We're gonna get into that even though Cindy was there at the time But it might just but it did say that David was saying the same thing to multiple people. I have no idea if he killed an ex-girlfriend. I do know that there was a woman living, already living in David's trailer when Cindy moved
Starting point is 01:08:35 in like some woman just kind of shows up for just a second in the narrative and then she's just never mentioned again. So she either disappeared or he disappeared her. And the, the truth too is that once you're in that little world, they're so far away from everything. We've discovered I think in the show that there's two types of killers besides just product and process. It's those that killed way more than you think they did and those that killed way less than they say they did. You have something like Ted Bundy that was so open
Starting point is 01:09:06 To talking about his crimes and eventually like Henry Lee Lucas, too Eventually, you're like you might actually be full of shit, but David Parker Ray I think is guilty of way more crimes. Yeah because of the way he behaved and how Kind of like controlled the environment was. And there's also other evidence that we'll get into later that does definitely show that there at the very least used to be bodies out there. Yeah. Now, another unnerving aspect of Angelica's abduction was that for two days
Starting point is 01:09:39 straight, Angelica would watch Cindy send David off to work as if they didn't have one of Cindy's friends chained to their bed against her will But things got far worse when David came home from work on day two Refreshed and ready to take Angelica to the toy box After giving her a bath like a dog, collar and all, Cindy applied makeup to Angelica's face while telling her that she had to look her best for the video. Angelica was then led to the toy box, where she was subjected to all manner of torture, from beatings to electric shocks to repeated insertions of foreign objects large and small.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Sometimes those items would also be electrified, and it was quite obvious that Cindy Hindy was having the time of her life. Or at least, that's how it went for the first hour. Fortunately for Angelica, an hour was all the time Cindy and David had before the premiere of part two of Stephen King's Storm of the Century. And much like them, also me and my family were glued to the television. You watched this with your family Yeah, so you know now that when you were watching this with Jackie your mother and your father We all look at the same moon every night. Well David and Steddy they'd been like super into part one of
Starting point is 01:11:14 Storm of the Century. So they stopped everything on night two to continue the series. Later Angelica would dryly say, quote, thank God for Stephen King. You know, has he responded yet? Yeah. With all of his equipment and stuff like that, he could have taped it. Yeah. That's all I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:11:36 No, I don't want to spoil it. All right, no, this is about, we go, Stephen King went to hiding for a certain period of time because he was hit by the fucking bus, and then he got hit by that van and then we didn't know if he was ever gonna ride anything again and then he went he wrote The Storm of the Century
Starting point is 01:11:50 everybody knew that he was super mysterious we didn't know what it was we didn't know if it was gonna tie back in to the dark tower or not so I had to see that. And also I ain't gonna tape it that night because the next morning I ain't gonna be left out of conversation at work
Starting point is 01:12:01 and all boys gonna be talking about Storm of the Century I won't be in there, I won't be able to talk about it. I might be a guy that said no spoilers, no spoilers, no, no, no, no, I want to talk. And if I don't get my eight hours, I am a bastard. I'm a bastard. You saw me yesterday. You heard me yesterday. I was a fucking pain in the ass. Perhaps because Angelica was a friend of Cindy's, she got far better treatment than some of the other women who were kidnapped and tortured in the toy box. I mean this! Well, perhaps because Angelica was a friend of Cindy's, she got far better treatment than some of the other women who were kidnapped and tortured in the toy box. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was still absolutely fucking horrendous. But Angelica had been in dangerous situations like this before, so she actually played it
Starting point is 01:12:36 quite smart. In an incredible show of strength, Angelica managed to keep up the friend facade the whole time she was in David and Cindy's thrall, later saying that if she had quote, played the bitch, they probably would have killed her. As such, David actually softened towards Angelica by the end of the third day, and he even told her that he liked her as a person, and he never would have kidnapped her if he'd known her better beforehand. If I only knew how much we all love Stephen King, and the long lore, and how much we all love Stephen King and the long lower knit and how much we all wish we can't wait to read
Starting point is 01:13:06 wizards and glass Can't wait don't wonder whether or not we knew what's he gonna do? What's the gunslinger gonna do? You know is it gonna all feature in I just wouldn't David even allowed Angelica to call a friend so she could arrange Bus fare to Albuquerque once travel arrangements were taken care of David unlocked Angelica's handcuffs and collars, and after four days of torture, David almost paternally offered Angelica a coffee, and he returned her clothes. He then asked her to come over, give him a hug. And once she did, David and Cindy drove her to the bus station without incident. Pull it in, girl. Pull it in, girl. I just can't. What we've been through. Alright. Hell of a week darling. Hell of a week. So we're into the century. You remember that. You couldn't even give her money for bus fare? No. Didn't like her that much I guess.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Now Angelica was smart enough to keep the game going until the very end. So when she said goodbye she told Cindy and David that she'd love to do it all again except next time she wouldn't be playing the victim. You hear me? I'll be on the other side. They're like, haha, alright, you're new. But as soon as David and Cindy drove away probably saying what an ass girl, Angelica sprinted out to Interstate 25 and frantically tried flagging down one of the passing cars. Eventually she was picked up in a moment that seems Serendipitous an off-duty member of the local sheriff's department picked up Angelica from the side of the road and after agreeing to take her to Albuquerque he drove away with Angelica both of them sat there in silence
Starting point is 01:14:38 But finally Angelica said that she had something to say but he wouldn't believe her if she told him Now Angelica didn't know this guy was a cop So when the officer pressed Angelica felt comfortable in describing her four days in captivity with David Parker ray Now after hearing all this the officer owned up to his identity and asked Angelica if she was willing to go back to truth or Consequences to file a police report. Now maybe David said something to Angelica, maybe he didn't. But Angelica said that she would never go back to T or C because the police were involved in what David Parker Ray was doing. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:16 They were definitely, someone was at least hanging out. There was somebody, because I do think that that also is a part of the reason why he went under the radar for a while I think that there was a you obviously they were waiting to whatever pressure point built, but there was just too much Cop activity in and out of his area Well, it's that's the thing and it's also just the thing, you know You're in these sorts of like situations in these sorts of towns Like you really do end up finding yourselves hanging out with people that you
Starting point is 01:15:45 should not be around that you do not want to hang out with just because there's not that many people. I say this from fucking experience where you're like you're sitting there and it's like I just spent three hours with the worst men in the world and I had no choice in the matter. It just fucking that just the only man there. It just happened. You know like I just had to sit here and listen to it and take it for three hours and I would imagine there were a lot of officers and there were a lot of cops that just happened to be hanging out with David Parker, right? And they knew like, Oh shit, people know that I hung out with them.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Also, when you're younger and you're fucked up all the time, you don't realize that you could just not hang out with certain people. Yeah, you don't just think even in New York City, I'd find myself deep in the conversations with people that I could just not hang out with certain people. You don't have to mistake. Even in New York City, I'd find myself deep in the conversations with people that I'm just like, this person's a criminal, and then you see him again the next day, because you really, frankly, don't know any better yet. Yeah, you really don't. Now, Angelica kept asking the officer what she should do,
Starting point is 01:16:38 and the officer kept telling her that they couldn't do anything unless she followed a report. But Angelica, unfortunately, would never get around to it. So the officer was quote unquote pressed for time. So when he got to Albuquerque without having successfully convinced Angelica to follow a report, he dropped her off at a bus station just outside of town. And instead of going to the police, Angelica went to her father for justice. After telling him everything that happened, Angelica and her father were fully planning to return to Elephant Butte to murder David and Cindy
Starting point is 01:17:10 for what they'd done. Now that would have been a very cool ending to this whole fucking story, sadly. It would have been an incredible ending to the story. But in yet another tragedy in a life full of them, Angelica's father was gunned down by a 15-year-old boy outside of a Taco Bell and a drug deal gone bad just four days after she told him about her ordeal. Completely
Starting point is 01:17:32 distraught and still unwilling to trust the police in any capacity, Angelica decided that she would leave David and Cindy's fate to God for the time being while she returned to a life of sex work and drug addiction. I mean, she had to be somewhat right. I mean, she returned to a life of sex work and drug addiction I mean she had to be somewhat right I mean she told the cop about David Parker Ray and David Parker Ray kept doing what he was doing I mean without someone there to file a report I mean the car and that's the thing is that the cop he was a sheriff in Sierra County
Starting point is 01:17:58 Which is that's the that's the county where truth of consequences is not like it was out of his fucking jurisdiction No, it wasn't he just didn't want to deal with it because he doesn't believe they didn't believe a woman He didn't believe a woman that was basically still a sex worker that was drug Addict and he didn't want to deal with her and she's completely right because it is not her burden to stop it She just got out. Yeah, and she should just have never go never go back to truth or consequences ever again Yeah And from what it seems like Angelica was far from the only woman that Cindy and David victimized in the relatively short period of time they were together.
Starting point is 01:18:30 In all, David and Cindy, they were actually only together for about six months before it all came crashing down. They had been in each other's social circle for about a year before that, but I mean, it burned bright and burned fast. You know what I view this as? It's like a, you know how we talk about how when serial killers slide into berserker mode It's like that it is but it's with the two of them David Parker Ray alone David Parker way alone could handle it mm-hmm, but once he had her in there and threw a bunch of gasoline on it
Starting point is 01:19:01 Oh, yeah, they're really getting reckless, and they're really getting insane. He may have never got caught He wouldn't have I don't think he would have ever gotten caught if he hadn't brought Cindy into it I think he would have died Just a few years later. Yeah, yeah, probably. I don't think he'd be lived that much longer. No, just a few No, he had a massive heart attack Yeah, he was a fucking yeah, he was a chain smoker. Yes did not he was not healthy and that's something you couldn't learn from him It's up-smoking. But regardless of how long David and Cindy had known each other,
Starting point is 01:19:29 David had apparently told Cindy quite a bit about his own illicit activities that had occurred before they met. See, when Cindy got drunk or high, she got chatty. And while this had absolutely nothing to do with their capture, Cindy's big mouth should have gotten them arrested long before they got caught. So just a few months after the abduction of Angelica Montano, Cindy went over to her friend Gene's house, the one where she'd shown Gene's kids her bruised up tits the previous Christmas. Yeah, oh that Christmas!
Starting point is 01:19:57 Amazingly, they let her back! It's almost like it's the only people they know! It's the way it goes, man. It is the way it goes. People do fucked up shit, you're mad at them for about a month, maybe a couple weeks, and then they come only people they know it's the way it goes man It is the way it goes people do fucked up shit You're mad at him for about a month Maybe a couple weeks and then they come back and they do it again what Cindy almost ruined Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, she's on her way over Great oh, so she can ruin our birthday, too Well once Cindy showed up at Gene's house She began downing a bottle of white wine with Gene and Jean's husband. Before long Cindy was telling her host that her boyfriend David Parker Ray he was a serial killer who killed hundreds of women over a period of 20 years and that Cindy
Starting point is 01:20:35 personally knew of six or seven women whose bodies had ended up in the bottom of the lake. Now she wasn't tearfully confessing this she She was saying this with a smile. She was bragging. She loved it. And Cindy didn't stop at telling her friends that her boyfriend was a serial killer. Far from it. Cindy talked about how much she actually loved that he was a serial killer. She proudly stated that she'd always been intrigued by serial killers. Cindy then talked about the toy box, spilled everything about the toy box, said that there was a blood stain the size of a quarter that wouldn't come out. It was from the time she said that David shot a man in the head inside the toy box, but David, he learned from the messiness of that murder, he didn't fucking shoot anybody in the head anymore.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Now he strangles people to death because it's cleaner, you know? And Cindy said that she couldn't wait to experience the rush of strangling someone to death with her own two hands. And she was going to do it soon! Do you want some stuffing? The things about that you don't understand like when you actually kill a human being when you put their hands around the throat in Their eyes are like bugging out. They start bugging out so bad. Yeah, that sounds great. Why don't we put a little Marie to sleep? Yeah, that sounds great. Why don't we put a little marita sleepy? People probably don't pay attention to each other
Starting point is 01:22:00 And Cindy then described David's method of slitting open corpses to fill their innards with rocks So they'd sink to the bottom of the lake and you know And really as I'm reading all this I realized that Cindy probably took a big hit of meth right before going inside. There's no way yeah because especially they're like yeah much like how we did with as you notice how Deborah here put a lovely lemon and a onion inside of the chicken in order to add an aromatic part of it yes I can I can't agree can you please. Can you please leave? Can you get the fuck out of here get the fuck out of my house? And finally just as she was leaving Cindy told Jean and her husband she and David were planning to take another victim soon to keep
Starting point is 01:22:36 David busy while Cindy visited friends in Seattle He's gonna be gone so he's gonna need something to do so I'm definitely gonna get a woman then I'm gonna go to Seattle and See you soon. All right. Bye now. Bye Cindy. Bye Cindy. No, but that's the thing is that he's going to be gone and so he's going to need something to do. So I'm definitely going to get a woman and then I'm going to go to Seattle and he's going to have a big good time over. Love it Cindy. See you soon.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Bye bye. Very tired. Time for work. Please get your bruised up tits out of my house. Now whether all the rest of it was bullshit or not, that's up for debate. But we do know that the last statement Cindy made was true because she did indeed have a visit to Seattle coming up and a kidnapping Did occur but regardless of the veracity of Sydney's statements what you may ask was Jean and her husband's reaction to her
Starting point is 01:23:15 Confessions well put simply just as soon as Cindy left they turned to each other and said ah bo honky She ain't killed nobody Now all you got to be is super not reliable. Yeah. No one believes anything. They didn't believe a word she said. And instead they just considered the encounter as another wacky night with Six Pack Cindy.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Honestly, I probably would have done the same thing. Oh yeah, you know how many things, cause I also feel as a comedian too, I sometimes don't have like a proper register when someone says something that's either extremely Offensive or over-the-top or something like that because sometimes I'll just call like haha Yeah, and not even kind of like really put it all together until later on and you realize like they've sort of maybe confessed a crime to me or something
Starting point is 01:24:02 They've sort of maybe confessed a crime to me or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As horrible as the consequences were, Cindy and David's relationship, it was obviously special. Yeah. So two days after Cindy fully outlined
Starting point is 01:24:13 not only David's entire serial killing career, but also her plans to join him in the future to her friends, David proposed. And the two planned to marry in June at a ceremony by the lake. Oh, wow. That's just how beautiful that would have been. Wow, and the two planned to marry in June and a ceremony by the lake You remember that now when we was out there on Lake we dumped that body right after yeah Do you know I was thinking is that you could stab my clit? And I will now I have all these rings covered in blood Would you like any one of them? Do not clean them, but you get one
Starting point is 01:24:55 That wedding however would never come to pass because David and Cindy would only have a short time together as a serial killing or at least serial abducting couple. Because soon a woman would escape from their clutches alive and running. The plan for that march, as Cindy had told Gene, was to kidnap a woman so David would have something to do while Cindy was out of town. David, however, had convinced Cindy to postpone her trip to Seattle because he didn't want her to miss out on the excitement of kidnapping a new sex slave.
Starting point is 01:25:27 So the two of them set off for Albuquerque on March 20th in their white Toyota truck with the camper attached to the back. This was with the express purpose of meeting a pimp named Terry who could unwittingly provide them with their next victim. Yes, it is me, Terry the pimp. Everybody, all you hoes line up okay let's see see your faces hand the money over to me bitch yes say say you're welcome okay thank you all right let me see your yelp reviews. Terry the pimp
Starting point is 01:26:00 introduced David and Cindy to a 22 year old woman named Cynthia Vigil who agreed to give David oral sex in his camper For thirty dollars coincidentally Cindy's birth name was also Cynthia. How amazing It's a coincidence that Cindy's last that it really last victim has the same birth name you say coincidence. I say happy accident It's just a lot of names of those two Davids Yeah, kismet. Limited. But once Cynthia, the active sex worker, was inside the camper, David pulled out a fake
Starting point is 01:26:33 badge and a pair of handcuffs, said this is a bust, and Cindy busted out of the camper's bathroom with a stun gun. Now Cynthia's visual was as tough as her name suggests, so taking her down wasn't easy. But finally, David and Cindy managed to handcuff, shackle, and duct tape Cynthia before driving her back to Elephant Butte. That's what it took to take Cynthia down. It took handcuffs, shackles, and a shitload of duct tape. I mean, you know, she's a lady of the streets of Albuquerque.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Yeah! You know, it's a tough situation. It is. And unfortunately, yes, Cynthia was definitely a bit of an escape artist. Yeah. So good luck with her. Now after they brought Cynthia inside their double wide and played her the tape, David and Cindy took to the torture routine that was by this point customary.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Electrodes and spiky dildos, metal bars and chains. But this time David added something new, something that he had threatened in his tape But as far as we know only did once After fetching a can of gravy from the kitchen David dipped his fingers inside and pushed the gravy into Cindy's vagina Then David brought in his dog from outside and let the animal lick it all away You satisfied now? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are we all are all you sick fucks out there satisfied? We talked about the dog last podcast love is brought to you by factor meals What you can get with factor good dogs all of anybody
Starting point is 01:27:58 In any situation Now Cynthia was put through a lot over the next couple of days. Ordeals involving suspensions, hog ties, whips, clamps, and an elaborate system of extremely painful pulleys and weights that were all made from Elephant Butte State Park equipment. And incredibly all this happened before Cynthia was even taken into the toy box. This all happened in the double wide. But on the morning of March 22nd, Cynthia awoke to find herself handcuffed and shackled to the wall, while David was getting ready for work.
Starting point is 01:28:31 David unlocked the handcuffs, but left Cynthia chained up. But just before he left, he promised her that when he returned, he was going to introduce her to the place where they were all going to have some real fun. David was going to take her to the toy box. Upon that threat, Cynthia became extraordinarily determined to never find out what the fuck happened inside the toy box. But luckily for her, Cindy was still spending pretty much the entirety of her days obliviously watching soaps. And on that day, Cindy had also quite stupidly left the keys to the padlock It was holding Cynthia captive. She left the keys on a coffee table
Starting point is 01:29:10 Just a few feet from where Cynthia was being held Now Cindy was fully entranced in her daytime TV by 3 p.m Which if I remember correctly 3 p.m's Judge Judy time. I mean, I don't know it could be the Cosby show It's 1999 so yeah yeah. Oh, three PM is also but which time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could have been a whole myriad of horrible television shows. When was Wapner? Yeah. Wapner was also three was Wapner. But was people's court over this point? Mills lane could have been Mills lane. It's definitely a, definitely a court show.
Starting point is 01:29:44 There was Joe Brown. No judge. Joe Brown wasn't around yet there wasn't there was an overlap between Wapner and Judge Judy but you know Judge Judy eventually took over yeah she actually hired an assassin to kill Wapner I know at 5 p.m. supermarket sweep was on USA and I love that show night court used to come on at 6 because people frantically running around food and shoving it in a Well while Cindy was duly distracted in the living room watching whatever was on 3 p.m. At 3 p.m. Coming out of Albuquerque Cynthia made her move in the bedroom after stretching herself across the table as far as the chain would allow
Starting point is 01:30:25 in the bedroom. After stretching herself across the table as far as the chain would allow, Cynthia wrapped her feet around the base of the coffee table and slowly pulled it towards her. Finally, after a lot of scooting, Cynthia grabbed the keys and opened the padlock. Actually, tiptoeing, Cynthia made her way across the den and picked up the phone to dial 911. But just as the operator answered, Cindy walked in and caught Cynthia in the act. Thinking fast, Cindy grabbed a glass lamp and smashed it over Cynthia's head. But Cynthia, as I said earlier, was among the toughest ladies in New Mexico.
Starting point is 01:30:59 While blood gushed from multiple wounds, Cynthia managed to grab a blunt instrument from the table, which she used to smash Cindy's head in over and over until Cindy was knocked unconscious. Covered in blood and totally naked, Cynthia burst out of David's trailer and ran barefoot down a dirt road as fast as she could, trying to get anyone to stop and help her. The first person she ran into was an old lady who locked her doors and sped away while the second just swerved around her But finally after running for three blocks Cynthia spotted an unusually nice double wide with manicured grass and a covered porch This person Cynthia figured just might give a fuck and sure enough after knocking on the door Cynthia was relieved to find that the owner was all too willing to help
Starting point is 01:31:45 Cindy meanwhile had regained consciousness soon after Cynthia escaped and immediately called David at work to tell him what happened. For his part, David just told her to stay calm. He said, I'm on my way. Together, we're going to get in an RV and we're going to find her. But by the time David Parker Ray had picked up Cindy in his RV at the trailer, Cynthia had already called 911, and police had already set up roadblocks. And since an RV is no sort of a chase vehicle, David and Cindy surrendered when they hit the block and they were finally arrested for their many crimes. I do believe he might have known at that point that it was over.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Oh, as soon as she called and said that she escaped, he knew it was over. Yeah, and that he... Cause that was like, he knew, he knew. And I think that it was just that thing of like, God damn it, Cindy. You know, like, I knew you fucked this up. Yeah. I'm feeding Jan this fucking muppet ass.
Starting point is 01:32:41 And he still went back for her. Of course, he loved her. He was something. Well, I think at this point, Fucking muppet ass and he still went back for of course he loved her he was well he was something well I think at this point they I think they always had a plan for well they might escape What are we gonna say if they escape? I know they had some sort of plan because when they were arrested and interrogated they had the same fucking story Yeah, they both said that everything that had occurred between them and Cynthia vigil was totally consensual and had in fact been a part of a transaction. Cynthia, they said, was trying to kick heroin and David and Cindy had agreed to help her
Starting point is 01:33:11 in exchange for some bondage sessions. Whole thing was simple barter. It had gone wrong. You don't always spank the heroin out of people. Yeah, you don't kick heroin, you shoot it. David, however, couldn't help but get carried away during his interrogation. While talking to the police, David took a pen and paper and made a detailed drawing of a butt plug, then fully described how he'd inserted it and why.
Starting point is 01:33:34 And what's important here, honestly, the most important part of the butt plug is the end bit here that sticks out of the butt, because that's what keeps it from sliding all the way into the intestines. Without this, you ain't getting it back. Without that, that is just a missile into your colon. The end part actually is what makes it the plug. Yeah, yeah. Without it, you know, that ain't yours no more once you put it in. Yeah, that belongs to God in the butt.
Starting point is 01:34:00 But at that point it seems like David realized what was happening. He realized that the cops were pumping him for information. He realized that the cops were pumping him for information He realized that the cops were getting him excited So he told them that he better get a lawyer because quote I think I'm in a lot of trouble a lot of trouble As far as being in trouble went David was indeed correct when the truth or consequences police department opened Just David's trailer never mind his toy box they knew they were fully out of their league so they immediately turned the case over to the new mexico state police now is that a mixture of just is that an is that actual understanding or is that pure laziness
Starting point is 01:34:38 is that just well there's a lot of paperwork don't want to do that yeah Well, there's a lot of paperwork. Don't want to do that. Yeah. Hold on a second. We're all stupid. Yeah. I don't know if you guys know. But between us, we have, and there's
Starting point is 01:34:53 10 member over here of the Truth or Consequence Police Department, we together have an IQ of 150. And did not Socrates say, I only know that which I do not know? And so there is forew for wisdom in us being lazy Quit talking that sense is gonna give us a case Well within days David and Cindy were facing 90 years in prison But predictably when a judge set their bail at a million dollars each Cindy rolled over on the supposed love of her life as fast as humanly possible. She
Starting point is 01:35:26 called the agent in charge and told him that David Parker Ray, oh you know, just a, he'd murdered at least 14 people, he'd used makeup to make his victims more photogenic for the videos he made and sold before killing them, he'd buried and dumped bodies all over the southwest, and after hearing all that, the agent at the New Mexico State Police also figured like Good enough to deal with this one. So he kicked it to the FBI So he's selling these tapes all over the country maybe the world Yeah, did anyone ever find any of these tapes when raiding somewhere else? I don't know I like I have no idea. The information I have is,
Starting point is 01:36:06 I actually got a really interesting thing in Atlanta. I'm going to, before I even really talk about it, I'm going to flesh it out more. But there is a central figure that is attached to a lot of this. And I do think that you'd be surprised. I don't think that, I think when he put out those videos,
Starting point is 01:36:23 it was out the death part. So it was just the S&M stuff. Yeah, so he was going no murder There's not stuff films. Yes, so that is just I mean it's definitely out there. It's for certain out there. Oh, yeah No, I'm sure I actually I I would not be surprised if somewhere on the internet on some tube site that there is a David Parker ray video that we just don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah, and I'm not there yet. Yeah, I'm not super looking for that. Well, because the guy, I wasn't talking to Atlanta, the guy was just like, you mean tell me you don't use Tor?
Starting point is 01:36:53 Like you don't use the dark web? And I was just like, no, no. Why? There isn't well-written shit there. No. Well, just like, yeah, I went and go found old David Parker Ray's tape, and my wife is ecstatic. No. Well, just like, yeah, I went to go found all David Parker Ray's tape and my wife is ecstatic. She can't wait for me to show her all the David Parker Ray original
Starting point is 01:37:12 tapes I found. Yeah, I gained nothing from it and yet I watched them anyway. And it's a crime. Everyone's angry at me. Our Google search histories are awful enough. Oh yeah. Now after throwing David under the bus, it seems like Cindy figured she might Our Google search histories are awful enough. After throwing David under the bus, it seems like Cindy figured she might as well get as much mileage out of snitching as she possibly can. So she also brought up Roy Yancey and told investigators that Roy had killed a woman named Marie Parker years before. And as it was at the time, investigators did think that this case was about to blow wide
Starting point is 01:37:46 open because just after Cindy rolled over on Roy, investigators found bones in David's backyard, and those bones did indeed appear human. Going off that, investigators began to believe that cold cases were about to be solved by the dozens, that countless families would finally discover what had happened to their missing loved ones. But tragically, no bodies were turning up. Police dug through every inch of David's property and found nothing else. Likewise, the divers scouring Elephant Butte Lake found nothing either.
Starting point is 01:38:15 This was despite the fact that they were in possession of a map found inside the toy box that had about a dozen X's marking locations exact locations all around the fucking lake It sounds like that also might have been a plant it might have been but the lake water was that the lake water in man-made Lake oh no, it's the sky you can't even it's it's just algae It's all algae blooms you can't see you cannot see anything what you get It's not just mud you don't just have like the muddy water of the Rio Grande like yeah, that's definitely a factor But it's also the fucking algae now is this the lake in the State Park or is this a separate lake? Guess is that lake in the State Park? I don't know one. Yeah. Yeah, cuz then how many lakes are there?
Starting point is 01:38:58 Yeah, not that many in New Mexico. I know that much So people are just kayaking over all these bodies all the time. Very much so Oh, elephant Butte lake is very much a recreational facility. Yeah. No, I'm just looking at Well speaking of which Even when human material did show up on the lake It proved to be useless just a few months after David's arrest, a fisherman, a guy out there on the lake just trying to have a good time, he spotted a burlap bag floating on the water. The bag had split open to reveal its contents.
Starting point is 01:39:32 And those contents were described as, quote, pinkish clumps of cheese-like material. The material was determined to be human flesh and bone, but it had been in the water far too long to be of any use. And that was just what happened when one guy actually reported something. Who knows how many people saw awful shit floating in Elephant Butte and just left it
Starting point is 01:39:54 because they didn't want to get involved. I would start screaming and then run away and then not think about it for years. Yeah, it does happen with you. But also, I do think it's an essential nature of this place. Yeah. I think like we said last week it's a place where people go to be left alone. Yeah so they want so they got want to be left alone so they leave others alone so everybody is everybody's minding their quote-unquote minding their own business even though
Starting point is 01:40:19 everybody knows everything about everybody. Oh of course you want to know about everything about everybody but yeah it's I mean that's the things you look at over in the side of you know There's also all sorts of shit floating in these lakes like it's not like these are a bunch of fucking conservationist environmentalist They're just throwing shit in these in these fucking waters But when it came to the investigation the worst horror of course was the toy box itself See every item inside had to be cataloged, and a young special agent named Patty Rust was tasked with making detailed drawings and diagrams
Starting point is 01:40:51 of every single thing contained therein. But the futility of it all, the sadness and the pain, it was all far too much for Agent Rust. A week after completing her task, she walked out of the toy box pulled her service weapon and Shot herself in the head Jesus Christ. So she did it at the toy box or at home It was the she did it at the toy box They had taken that the FBI had taken the toy box and moved it to their offices in Santa Fe
Starting point is 01:41:20 Where everything could be cataloged and where the whole thing and it was in Santa Fe. Yeah, she just walked on just... Damn! It broke her completely. Oh, God. I can see it. Yeah, it's fucked up because also I think that once you see how much evidence was in there. Yeah. How much stuff and there's no and there's nothing to stick him with.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah, I mean there are... Yeah, they're gonna get him. They're gonna get him, but not in the way that you wanna. No. Now Roy Yancey was picked up from his job as a short order cook after Cindy told on him. You want him smothered and covered? No.
Starting point is 01:41:54 No. No. No. Hello. I'm like, pick it up. Who likes marshmallows on the sandwiches? I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:42:04 I love it! Well after Roy was picked up, he spilled just as much as Cindy. And eventually, victims like Kelly Garrett were identified and questioned as well. And Kelly Garrett gave investigators enough information to also arrest David Parker Ray's daughter, Jessie. But in the end, the sentences handed out were either paltry or ultimately unsatisfying. Roy Yancey was sentenced to 20 years in prison for the murder of Marie Parker, but even though the death of Kenneth Lee Lane was investigated, Yancey never got the charge. David Parker Ray, meanwhile, had three trials that collectively came to be known as the David Parker Ray Tour. These
Starting point is 01:42:42 concerned the kidnappings of Cynthia Vigil, Kelly Garrett, and Angelica Montano. All stories that we talked about on this show. But the reason why we talked about these stories is because these women were the only three out of the possible hundreds that David brutalized who could be identified and or found. They only found Kelly Garrett because of a photo, a photo of a tattoo. They found a photo of a tattoo. They tracked her down. And then when they told her, hey, this happened to you, all of the
Starting point is 01:43:15 memories came flooding back. She didn't remember any of it until after David Parker Ray was caught and FBI had to come and show her pictures of what happened to her. So brutal. Incredibly brutal. FBI had to come and show her pictures of what happened to her so brutal incredibly brutal Well as such David Parker Ray was ultimately sentenced to 223 years in prison after he tried to get a Dominatrix to testify on his behalf about what everyone in the court just didn't understand about rough sex
Starting point is 01:43:38 That's how we like think about that think about that. He was setting that up Try throwing anything you could that I get in prison Yes, but infamously David Parker Rae served less than one of those 223 years as he died from a heart attack on May 28th 2002 as far as Cindy and Jesse went they both got off incredibly light Jesse Rae ended up serving just two years in prison, got five years probation. She's just fucking out there. Like I said last episode, there was a Reddit comment that said that someone took a trucking course with her and she is mean.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Yeah. Oh, I bet. Cindy Hindi. Meanwhile, she was released in 2019. As of 2024, Cindy lives in a community in Washington state that is in no way happy to have her there. Man, I bet when Jessie's a trucker that she doesn't even honk when people do the impotent things. And that's the most, that is the biggest crime of all. Because I still do it. And I don't care if you think I'm mentally handicapped.
Starting point is 01:44:38 I like it. It's fun for me. I hope that you think I'm mentally handicapped because you think you're making my day, which you are Making a fully capable person. Yeah happy fucking bitch But then there's the question of truth or consequences Four days after Jesse wet ray was arrested the city nevertheless decided to go ahead with an anniversary arrested the city nevertheless decided to go ahead with an anniversary marking 50 years since the incredibly stupid renaming of their town I know it's really bad timing but honestly when it comes to it we already ordered all the
Starting point is 01:45:12 banners the guys here that fucking guys already flown into town the guy from the old TV show he's gonna die anytime soon and we just got we order all these pizzas can't stop well divers were down in the lake looking for human remains He's gonna die anytime soon, and we just got we order all these pizzas Can't stop well divers were down in the lake looking for human remains The city was hosting a parade led by the almost 90 year old living corpse of the original host of the game show That was Ralph Edwards But there's no word on if Ralph was told about what was going on out at Elephant Butte at the time. I'd like to go see a toy box.
Starting point is 01:45:51 I like toys. We used to have a Jack in the box. I used to surprise everyone. Incredibly, truth or consequences has in the years since become a sort of billionaires playground great Currently it's the base for sir Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic space tourism company. I'm gonna change the virgin name France Branson began commercial space flights out of T or C just a few years ago Those flights go for about six hundred thousand dollars a seat which I would imagine is more than enough to buy
Starting point is 01:46:29 a hell of a lot of double wides out at Elephant Butte where so many of David Park array's victims remain undiscovered Jesus fucking Christ what a great show then that's it well that's David Parker a redux just dredge the lake it's too big and they also don't have the money dredging lakes really fucking expensive. They don't want to yeah Yep, they don't want to and it's too big and and also the you know The burlap sack like that cheese the the cheesy substance that for me It really says a lot about what happened to those bodies down there like they just fucking disintegrate and no more DNA in that Like down there, like they just fucking disintegrate. And there's just no more DNA in that.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Not at the time. Not unless those people were in a DNA registry in the first place to be found. Yeah, not at the time and not sent like in not sense. Yeah, they have to already be. Yeah, because that's the thing is that they're not like they're the people that are being found. It's not like they're criminals, you know, so there's the DNA is not going to be on the database in that way. And also a lot of these people
Starting point is 01:47:26 Aren't weren't reported like they weren't reported missing. So they don't have anything to match it against What about the bones found on this property? Turned out to be nothing. Oh, they weren't human. No, they just human ask. Yeah monkey bones Time I killed those three chimps. Yeah That's it I was gonna bring up that is that 4th of July when we got them three chimps. Yeah, and that one chimp got a hold of that artillery shell and he lit it and he put it down the throat of that other chimp, but it was big enough to blow up all the chimps.
Starting point is 01:47:57 It was amazing. It was amazing. Also, I did find Roy Yancey. I thought it was him, but I don I don't think it is he was son Iowa he's this another guy in an Iowa's sex offender list I mean Roy and has his address Roy Yancey's about this that is a sex offender name that is look at this sex offender He's not smiling. I mean he is a sex offender actually that that sex offender is smiling There's a I would say a flirty curl to that lip. This one's here.
Starting point is 01:48:25 This one's a weird one. It looks like Spicoli from fucking Fast Times. Yeah, I don't know who these is. I don't know if that is. He's in Des Moines. Huh. Yeah. I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I'll put the address up on the socials. We all go to his house. Bring him to the show. Well, thank you, Marcus, for finally breaking me. Really? I'm glad you needed it. Yeah, we needed it I'm glad time. Yeah, yeah, yeah patreon.com slash last podcast on the left watch ed's thick tears Happen and roll down his big cheeks
Starting point is 01:48:55 As he's saddened by the news of david parker ray. I can't wait to take my wife on a nice romantic dinner tonight Yeah, you go and you be nice to her. Just flush it all out. Just on the drive home, put on the soundtrack of Little Mermaid. And just, no, Under the Sea, that's going to remind you of stuff. Don't do Under the Sea. You can do, what are some of the other? I don't know, yeah, look at this stuff, isn't it neat?
Starting point is 01:49:19 I feel like that's the song David Parker wrote. That's like the tin hens in the toy box. Hey, bitch, wouldn't you think my collection's complete when you think that I'm the dude, the dude that had everything. Hakuna Matata. How's that? Yeah, sure. No worries.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Yeah. At the end of your days at LP on the left is where you can find us on TikTok and Instagram. And don't forget to check out our new YouTube channels that someplace underneath LPN Romanticie, Who's the Bee, The Foreign Report, No Dogs in Space podcast, and of course the overall LPN TV and don't forget to come out and see us on tour. We got some awesome fucking shows coming up this year. You know what's a bad song for him? Be our guest, be our guest, put our service to the test. Also a terrible song. guest be our guest put our service to the day I'll tell you that Lumiere someone
Starting point is 01:50:09 needs to keep an eye on hell same everyone oh and how gay hell she never gonna hear this shit you can say Jan Janice. How about Janice? Yeah, hell Janice. The Muppet. Yeah, who looks exactly like Cindy Hinn. She looks nothing like her!

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