Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 634: Aaron Hernandez Part I - Worst Case Scenario
Episode Date: September 12, 2025This week, just in time for Football season, the boys dive deep into the tragic, twisted saga of Aaron Hernandez — NFL star turned convicted killer. From his abusive upbringing to his meteoric rise ...on the field, we trace the beginnings of the violent double life that would make him football’s ultimate “Worst Case Scenario.” For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
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There's no place to escape to.
This is the last hot test.
On the left.
That's when the cannibalism started.
Who was that?
Oh, shit!
Aaron Hernandez, sucking on dicks, even though he says he's not gay.
Who does he slay?
That's awful.
That's terrible
It's like me and Edward
Sucker on penis all day
Even though he's not gay
I've worked so hard on this
You worked so hard
Me and Edward even like
Me and I were talking before
It's like you know like the gay thing
Like it's kind of hack
To like go like right into it
And it's like super and it's like
Really like
Batman is Bob because he's so gay
You can't say
Yeah you're like yeah you know
Who does he slay
You know it's like so like insensitive
To people and like
You know, and it's really like something like, you know, like outing somebody's like a super big deal.
He did it.
Let's not talk about it until like the second episode or something like that.
And then it's just like fucking, boom, man.
Why did you get you a job on that morning show that outered him?
Hey, buddy, why did you try to make love to my butt?
Welcome to the last podcast on the left.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks.
I'm here with Beatles cover master.
the weird owl of his generation
Henry Zbrowski
I swallowed an oat
I'm sorry
Yeah he I'm sorry guys
Marcus is gonna die
He's up in his diet
He had a single oats
He was trying to make sure
Before we started to eat
So I had a power bar
And there was an oat in it
And the oat is now caught
Where my voice comes out of
I was ready to fucking Heimlich his ass
Dude he had to stop me
It was pretty great
Yeah you just like
I was getting in
I gotta hear the word
You know what's you can
say a word, then you're not dying.
You know who is super good at the Heimlich?
Who?
Aaron Hernandez.
Henry.
We don't know that.
I don't think he ever saved the life.
That's not in my research.
If it is to be, it is up to me.
And we have the extraordinarily hardworking Ed Larson with us as well, Ed.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good.
This was emotional for me.
Yeah.
I learned a lot about myself while I was doing this.
And hopefully over the next week or two,
that's going to keep going.
But, man, the story is very tragic.
Oh, it's extremely tragic.
And it actually made me cry at one point.
And so.
Fucking pussy.
That's what's wrong with you?
I could have brain damage.
You never know.
Yeah, you don't know.
Who knows?
I actually think that you don't seem to have,
Like, you don't show weird aggressions and you don't, like, flip out, like, in that way.
You're very calm.
Before weed, I got in lots of fights.
But now you got weed.
I do got weed.
But it didn't help Aaron Hernandez.
Let's get into it.
Well, that's the thing is that today we are going to be starting a new series that's led by Mr. Ed Larson.
Yeah.
Who, who 42?
Who 42?
Hot.
Ha!
Yeah, we got to balance everything out after the fucking three weeks of vampire the masquerade.
Yeah.
This is our straightening of the network.
work? Yeah, we're going through three weeks of
Vampire the Masquerade to
football. Wrong subject.
Yes, Aaron Hernandez, of course,
convicted murderer and
football star, let's get into the story.
All right. Aaron Hernandez
was the worst case scenario for the
NFL and the New England Patriots.
He only played three seasons of
NFL football, but was on track to be
one of the all-time greats at his position,
and many would argue a future
Hall of Famer. But this
would never come to be because on June 17, 2013, he murdered Odin Lloyd in a dirt lot behind
his house in North Attleboro, Massachusetts.
Why do he do that?
We'll get into it.
I would say, still somewhat of a mystery.
Why do we do that?
Only convicted for the murder of Odin Lloyd, it is assumed he killed a total of three men
and possibly shot three more, including two in the head that survived, and ultimately
took his own life in his prison cell in 2017.
Thank God he wasn't a quarterback.
I've heard some people...
If he was a quarterback, he never would have made it to the NFL
because if you shoot two guys in the head...
And they live?
See, he's a receiver, Henry.
He's used to getting it.
Oh, I've heard that.
Don't make that hacky fucking joke.
It's too late.
It's too late. It's already out of the fuck. It's already out.
I've heard some people call Aaron Hernandez a serial killer,
but after my brief history on this show and
the knowledge I've gained, I would disagree. I don't think Aaron Hernandez murdered people because
he liked it. I think he was a feeble-minded, wannabe gangster who was raised in the violent
machismo culture of football and made some bad friends who egged him on as he made poor decision
after poor decision. I agree. That while also most likely being a closeted homosexual man
and posthumously diagnosed with CTE, chronic, traumatic, and cepylopathy. A progressive degenerative
brain disease affecting people who had
suffered repeated concussions through repetitive
head impacts. All
these things combined is why I refer
to him as the worst case scenario.
So over the next couple weeks, we're going to examine
Aaron Hernandez's short life
and what led a man who
was about to make $40 million
over five years become a murderer.
And even worse than that, a New England
Patriot. Yes.
Yeah.
Fucker.
Fuck the Patriots.
Fuck the Patriots.
No, like, he also, like, it feels like I saw a lot of, in all of the documentary footage I was watching, but this idea of that he came from this high pressure environment and that's a part of what pushed him.
But I feel like a lot of people are under high pressure and don't kill people randomly.
Absolutely.
I think a lot of people have CTE.
I think a lot, and they don't become murderers.
But I think that when you're already an incredibly violent person, it, you know, gives it a little looph.
Well, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah, it definitely pushed it. Yeah, I mean, it is true. Like, the environment that Aaron Hernandez
grew up in plays out literally a million times every day in America when it comes to, like,
high school football and it comes to the sort of pressure that parents put on kids when they're
younger. But Aaron Hernandez, like, as Ed said, it's a worst case scenario. It's all of these
things coming together. You remove even one of these elements, and it's possible he would not
have become a murderer. He would have just been a violent person. But all of these things,
together, it's a perfect storm. Yeah, there's lots of sliding doors moments in this where
just like Marcus said, you take out any of those scenarios. I don't think he kills these people.
Yeah. So personally, I wanted to take on this story for last podcast on a left because his story
was a tipping point for me falling out of love with football. Ed Larson, as the world knows,
as a weed smoking hamaholic that worships the pristine hands of Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins.
We know that. Yeah. But the truth is that I've since gotten older. I've realized that the
personal trauma. Football has caused me as a player, sports bar employee, and as a Dolphins fan.
And as I research Aaron Hernandez's young life, there's way too many similarities to my own
childhood. I also had an overbearing borderline abusive football obsessed father, football
coaches that taught me to hit with my head first, and sold drugs with low-level gangsters.
That's awesome.
So far, so good.
I don't think that I have CTE
And most people who played football
Never develop it
But it is estimated that one third
of NFL players suffer from the disease
I think partially it's because of what
We had a little sidebar conversation once
About how that and during our high school years
They were way more focused on the neck
Yes
They wanted to save the neck
And they wanted to be that was like the whole thing
So it might have inadvertently protected your head
Well they would teach me to hit with my face mask first
and to knock out other players.
They would tell me to hit their helmet with my face mask.
Real men's playing ball.
Real boys tussling and grabbing and ripping.
Yeah, the whole point, and I was taught the same thing.
It's like definitely never go with your head like straight down
because that was what they were always afraid.
It was peril paralysis.
Jack Tatum.
Yeah.
And so what they taught you is to hit the other guy with your face mask and go up.
Because what you're trying to do is you're trying to knock the other guy off of his feet.
So, yeah, you are hitting your head into the other player over and over and over again.
Yeah, good old fashion football.
And I'm like nowadays, are they're handing out purses at the front goddamn gate?
What is fucking happening?
I'm the man here, you have.
I'm the man representative.
And the thing about Aaron Hernandez is, like, when you watch his football, when you watch
his tapes, when he was a kid, he, I have never in my life seen someone use their head so much
when they're playing football.
And he gets hit three, four, five times before.
And he still doesn't get knocked down.
He's like, that was what he was known for, just fucking running through.
He did boy.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, some of us are more fragile than others.
I just, you know, broke four bones.
Yes, I mostly commented upon football during the talent show.
I got it hit so hard when I was in seventh grade.
But our coach decided, like, let's put the junior high kids against the high school kids.
and one of the high school kids
hit me so hard
and I was such a small kid
that I flew into the air
and landed on my coxics
and broke my tail bow
I was like that's how hard I
You must have been so fun to hit
that's a funny memory that I don't have
they really loved it
and that was my second bone
broken playing football
the first was when the kid picked me up
and spiked me and broke my collarbone
It's interesting.
Let me get in there.
That's one thing I kept thinking about during all of this because, like I said, I don't
think I have CTE.
Who the fuck knows?
I'm pretty sure my father did, by the way.
He had to stop playing football because he had too many concussions in the 60s.
Yeah, which means, yeah.
You had a literal.
Elephants everywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
You had a literal dent in his forehead.
Jesus.
You know, and so, you know, and I can remember certain hits.
Like, I just, like, they were, like, in my head.
When Mavika hit me in practice, when I hit Jason Reed, like, there's
certain things, like, I remember, like, I still see the stars from those exact hits, and
they may not have been knocked me unconscious, but they were many concussions, I'm sure.
Yeah.
And as far as CTE goes, unfortunately, there's no way to know for sure how many people have it,
because the only way to properly get diagnosed is to examine the brain after you've
already passed away.
Of course, only a small fraction of football players that die have their brains examined for CTE.
So we may never know how serious this epidemic has become.
As of 2023, Dr. Anne McKee, Director of Boston University CTE Center and the foremost authority on the subject, has studied 376 former NFL players' brains donated to her center, and 345 of those brains were diagnosed with CTE.
That's a whopping 91.7%.
Obviously, the brains are usually from people.
or families that thought they were infected.
Yeah, you need some control brains in there.
Yeah, exactly.
When they did a different survey, before she started studying this,
she studied over 300 brains, and only one of them was found to have CTE,
and that person played college football, and no one else did.
Actually, I have a test.
If you want to show it, come closer.
Yeah, right.
You just knock on the cranium like that, and if it sounds hollow, you got it, you fucking
CTE-Ridden Maniac.
Oh, no.
You're about to explode.
So as far as Dr. Anne McKee's research goes,
Aaron Hernandez was, in fact, one of the brains that she researched.
But we will dive deeper into CTE and the NFL's cover up in our next episode.
Nice.
Not just the NFL's cover up, the WWE's cover up.
I'm sure there's quite a bit going on to the NHL as well.
We're going to lose all of our contacts at the NHL.
Let's not do this.
Don't know.
I was supposed to be the jester at the new Raiders.
But before we jump into Aaron Hernandez's origin, let's acknowledge our sources today.
The rise and fall of Aaron Hernandez, All-American Murder, by James Patterson and Alex Abramovich, with Mike Harvkey.
Also, we took some info from the Boston Globe series, Goliath by the Spotlight Team, Killer Inside, the mind of Aaron Hernandez, the Netflix stock, and a little from The Truth About Aaron by Jonathan D.J.
Hernandez. I took what I could from DJ Hernandez's book because he is himself a flawed individual
who for sure has reasons to not tell the entire truth. But he is the only one who was around
in that home with Aaron growing up. So it could help fill in some of the blanks. Sure.
Aaron Hernandez was born November 6, 1989 in Bristol, Connecticut, the home of ESPN to Dennis
and Terry Hernandez. He was the youngest of two football playing boys. His brother, DJ, was three
years older. Dennis Hernandez was a local football hero nicknamed the king by pretty much to everyone in
town. Dennis played college football at the University of Connecticut. In 1977, two days after
Yukon lost their season-ending game in Dennis's junior year, a Plainview Connecticut police officer
was killed during a home invasion. Detectives questioned Dennis. He was never charged with anything,
but the team cut ties with him and he never played football again. Whether he had anything to do
with the crime itself remains a mystery
but this fueled Dennis to be obsessed
with both of his boys playing
football for Yukon. How do these
sports teams have so many connects
to the football, to the fucking
police? Like, even
just the idea of waving this.
Cops love football. They do. It's what they
do. But even a cop-murdering
football star. Well, I mean,
he's not cop-murdering specifically.
It's rumored that he, like, it's thought that he
may have helped some of the guys hide
at, like, after they
after they were involved in the shooting
they may have gone to his house
and be like, God fucking help me, bro!
And he helped them.
He's like, of course, when you come to the king,
you know, the king's ready to serve.
That kind of was his thing.
Everyone loved him.
He's like he was a terror at the house.
Good person in the streets.
The Yukon mascot is a husky named Jonathan,
which is what Dennis named his first son.
But he went by DJ for Dennis,
of it. I could imagine if someone in my family
is like, your name is Raider Red.
Yeah.
Because we're a Texas Tech family, you know,
like, you know, my uncle played football
for Texas Tech for, you know, when he was
in college in the 80s, we're all huge Red
Raider fans, you know, but yeah, to name someone
like, hey, that's Raider Red
McMeans. Like, this is our son
Grimmis, Hamburgler, Zabrowski.
The obsession didn't stop
there, though. They even bought a giant
white husky and named
the dog, Yukon. That's cute.
That's a cool name. That's a good name for a husky.
Is it? Yeah, Yukon.
Yeah, it's good. You know,
because it kind of, you can, it's also
like, you know, the Yukon, you know,
up north and all that, and huskies are kind of
Yukon-ish dogs. I guess, but it's like
weird to, like naming your dog, FSU.
It is. No, it is. It's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But to Dennis, the boys had no choice
but to play at Yukon.
And they would fulfill his failed
legacy. I will say I do wish my father
had a legacy that I could fail.
Instead of being a security guard at Wacken Hut.
Well, you could have been a cop.
God damn it, what I would have brought to the force.
God fucking damn it, what I'm...
A real man in the force.
I'm like, these two pussies in here.
This guy's getting out there laying down the law.
I'll spake a man until he tells me what he's done.
Well, I mean, Bristol, I find it really interesting
how popular Dennis Hernandez was.
the fact that they called him the king.
Because Bristol, Connecticut really was, it's a football town, which is, it's kind of rare in Connecticut.
You know, up, this is the northeast.
It's not like a bit, but this is where ESPN was.
Yeah.
You know, and this is also, like, it's a former industrial town that had fallen into disrepair.
So, like, football was kind of the only thing they had left.
It was sort of like a Texas, like, what you think of is, like, Texas football, this was in Bristol, Connecticut.
And with Dennis Hernandez, like, it's really interesting because they, like, they called him the
King, but his job, he was a
janitor. Yeah. He was
like, it wasn't like he was a local,
he wasn't like Buddy Garrity and Friday Night Lights
where he like owns the local used car
franchise. No, he was just an old-fashioned
peaked in high school kind of guy.
He was, yeah. And he was a lot of fun.
You know, he loved the party. He did drugs.
You know, he helped like
people place their sports bets.
You know, he was like a known all over time.
Yeah, cool guy. In DJ's book,
he goes into detail about how
physically abusive his father was to him
Aaron. The abuse was so frequent
and barbaric that he once threatened
to call the cops on his father. His
dad replied, I'm going to beat you even
harder, you and your brother. They're
going to have to pull me off for you when they
knock on the door. Jesus.
Yeah. The Hernandez house was not
a happy place to say the lease.
Dennis was arrested for trying to buy
Coke from a cop. And they always have the worst
Coke.
It's so funny, literally
the next thing I wrote is no blame.
Cops always have the best Coke.
Now, did this ask him, are you a cop?
Because if he did, he has to tell you.
No, he probably just like, yeah.
Then he was like, all right, good, here's the money.
Oh, good, cocaine.
I'm used to give him money to cops.
His mother Terry was also arrested when an illegal sports gambling operation was busted in their basement.
Wow.
They divorced in 1991.
They remarried in 1996.
And in 1999, they filed for bankruptcy.
See, and according to Aaron, there was a lot to argue about in the house.
Yeah, it just seemed like that.
Yeah, but that's kind of romantic in a way.
Oh, I guess so.
But he did beat her up a lot.
Well, yeah, but I'm just saying, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the divorce and remarrying, like...
That's what I'm saying.
I think it's sexy.
It's a small town thing.
Yeah, it is a small town thing.
But, you know, in the documentaries, like, again and again, like, the things they really hammer down on is...
you know, when, you know, Aaron's father goes away, like, that's when Aaron sort of, you know, that's when everything falls apart for him.
Yeah.
But what about these five years when they were, when his parents were divorced?
Like, was he living with his father during that time or?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Like, because that seems important.
I imagine, I think, what I'm pretty sure maybe he was living with his mother and his dad was just around all the time.
Gotcha.
He probably never even left the house.
They were just divorced.
Yeah.
It's one of those situations.
So Aaron and DJ, they went to central Bristol High School.
school. Aaron was immediately a great player
as a freshman. He
started on the varsity
team at 13 years old.
You're playing against 18 year olds.
Yeah. That's like a big... I know that's
five years isn't a big deal, but those are
crucial five years. Oh, it's massive.
As I was saying earlier, when
my collar butt or when my
fucking tailbone got broken by another kid,
that kid was 18 and I was 13.
Yeah. You know, like, but the thing is that
I was 13 and like 5-5.
Aaron Hernandez was 13 and 6-2.
Yeah, he could dunk a basketball in the seventh grade.
Was he just gifted physically?
Yes.
Yeah, no, he was basically like, they knew from a very young age he was going to be a pro athlete.
That's the dream as a father.
Yeah, really, he got his exact wish with Aaron.
DJ, he was the quarterback senior year, and they would link up regularly and we're a great team.
At the end of Aaron's first year, DJ graduated and got accepted into U.S.
and eventually became their quarterback.
Aaron was a pretty good kid in high school.
The only trouble he got into was once he drunkenly jumped on a car and dented the hood,
thus getting himself thrown out of the school dance.
He showed up to school the next day with a black guy and apologized.
It is assumed Dennis gave him some old school discipline, as his coach put it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And this is all, like, this is all very important to, like, who Aaron Hernandez eventually became as a person.
All of this, like, informs, like, the question.
of like how does a guy
with a $40 million contract
end up doing this?
This is all part of it.
Mean daddy.
So with DJ off to
Yukon, Aaron started to blossom
as a varsity athlete.
He was fast, he had great hands, was
nimble, and was as strong as anyone else on the field.
Plus, his work ethic through
training and practice was unmatched.
By junior year, he was one of the best
players in the country.
This is the time when Aaron started to figure out who he was.
He met his future fiancé, Cheyana Jenkins, and found his one true love.
That sweet, sweet weed.
Oh, yeah, fucker.
Aaron smoked a shit ton of weed.
Yeah, he fucking did, son.
Arguably more than I did.
It was really bad for him.
Yeah.
He did, it wasn't good for him.
He smoked before school, before games, after games, before practice.
I made my brain green
It's me
It's believed that the marijuana
Helped him deal with being closeted
In a hostile home environment
If you smoke enough weed
You could forget your gay apparently
But you can also forget your straight as well
So be careful out there
That's what's happening to me
I would actually argue
That the more he smoked weed
The more he probably obsessed over being gay
I imagine
He was very paranoid person
known for it
it was the way lots of people described him
well like because his thing was
he'd just kind of show the wiener right
and go like it'd be the same
for wasn't having sexed with
well I mean you're making him out to be an absolute
moron yeah he wasn't an absolute
moron he wasn't no from everything I heard
him speak he doesn't sound like
he's fucking Barack Obama
he wasn't educated well yeah
he did not care about school but as far
as football goes yeah sure he was
smarter than anybody that's what they said yeah
He was incredibly brilliant when it came to football
And when it came to thinking about things like that
And we'll get to that here in a little bit
The reasons why, but he was
I would not say he was an absolute moron
I think he was
He definitely had like a certain amount of intelligence
It was just that football was the only thing
That was given to him in life
I get it, all I do is fucking comedy and fuck
He was basically told by everyone in his life
Don't worry about school
Of course you're going to
You are a born football star.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't worry about it.
In fact, it's a waste of your time.
You shouldn't be studying.
You should be out there doing split squats.
Yeah.
Once he got to college, they literally were like, your classes are getting in your way of football.
Take these, like, shitty classes.
Take bowling.
Take, you know, like poverty.
You know, and stuff like that.
Which you got a D.N.
Hey, man.
He's allergic to being poor.
His brother DJ remembered at first, Aaron wanted to be a cheerleader because his cousins were cheerleaders.
But his dad put an end to that real fast
And what I imagine was in brutal fashion
He also would change the way Aaron would stand
And hold his hands because his father deemed it to be too feminine
But he used a different F word of course
I will say though
What's so girly about being a teapot
You're not short and stuff
You're tall
I just want to be helpful
Well and I think also like the way that he talked
It was also a way to hide his sexual
Oh, I totally understand that.
Yeah, because he wanted, like, he all...
Ha, ha, ha, baby, what you want, baby.
Everyone loved him.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was very charming.
Yeah, and he always wanted to be seen as, like, tough.
And it really is, like, sometimes there are people who think it's, like, being smart is gay.
And by gay, I don't mean, like, stupid, I mean, like, you know, like, if you, I was called the F word quite a bit growing up.
For being, for having a...
tiniest bits of intelligence
You mean the major in creative writing
In Texas Tech? No way!
No way! No way! No way!
But I think...
I sure hope you want to kiss me. If not, I'm a beat you to death.
But I think he just...
His is a story of overcompensation again and again.
It also has to be stated that Aaron was sexually abused as a child,
but is not confirmed by anyone who did it to him
or when it happened, just that
it did in fact happen.
Is that proof? We know that somebody
at least said that. Both his mom
and his brother said it happened and
Aaron's lawyer. My mom thinks everybody's
molested. Does she think you were molested?
Well, she'll just say, you know, I mean...
Oh, God. We should look into it.
Yeah.
And then I flipped it out on him,
and I started sucking his dick, and I was like,
you like this? You want me to be your whore?
Obviously, Dennis Hernandez sucked as a human being, but I'm torn on whether Aaron would have killed people if his father had stuck around longer.
He was a strict homophobic football dad and someone who had a strict homophobic football father.
It did suck.
But Aaron may have benefited.
And you weren't even gay, like literally.
Like, imagine being closeted in dealing with it.
Oh, my God.
My first date, my father was so happy.
Because, like, when I said I wanted to do drama, he was so nervous.
And then I was just like, and then when I went out with a girl, he was like, oh, my God.
Thank God. Thank God. I was like, well, you know, it doesn't matter.
But, you know, Aaron may have benefited from a stricter father.
Certainly, constantly getting punched in the head as a child didn't help with the e-old CTE.
Nope.
And maybe not helpful as far as his career was concerned, but Dennis was the only person who held him accountable for his actions for his entire life.
Aaron had a quote from his father tattooed on his body.
It read, if it is to be, it is up to me.
And it wasn't until Dennis passed away.
Did Aaron start to act out in social situations?
His mother was cheating not so discreetly on Dennis with a man named Jeff Cummings.
And boy, oh boy, he earned that name.
Let's just say, Aaron wasn't the only shooter in the house.
Come on.
I apologize.
But Cummings wasn't some random dude.
He was married to Dennis Hernandez's niece, Tanya.
That's Aaron and DJ's first cousin.
It's just so, it's just, man, you could be white trash anywhere, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bristol's, what, 60,000 people, some are around there.
So small enough to be small towns.
Growing up from Queens, Connecticut was always like, that's fancy.
It's not.
That's where fancy people live.
And it's like, no.
No, there's like four fancy places, and the rest of it's actually quite dangerous.
I did not know that.
Yeah, it's like they've got ESPNs there, the WWE's there,
and the rest of it is just like bad drivers.
And again, they're just TV stations.
It's not like they were like they didn't,
like a corporation made them.
Yeah.
Like, it's not like Benjamin Franklin was born there.
He just made ESPN there.
It's not born there.
It was a natural part of the fabric of the universe.
It's a company.
It's weird that it's there.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know why ESPN is specifically in Bristol.
But yeah, but in WWE as well.
But yeah, sometimes corporations have Connecticut headquarters.
I say not so discreet.
Because on September 25th, 2005, in the stands at a Yukon football game, Tanya confronted Terry in the stands and slapped her.
DJ on the field at the time, happened to look in the stands at just the right time to see the whole thing go down.
Jerry Springer meets Friday night lights meets lead poisoning.
Scandal.
A scandal.
Yeah, no, that is, I could not imagine anything more humiliating.
Oh, my God.
It's incredibly huge.
humiliator. At the game.
Yes. But that was a Dennis's game, not Aaron's
game. Just so, yeah. But even so,
it tells you the volatility
of this family. Oh, my God.
Dude, they used to beat the shit out of each other
all the fucking time. Yeah. You see
Dennis Hernandez, with his troubles from
his youth, far behind him, was a pillar of
the community in Bristol. He knew the
whole town and was nicknamed the king by locals.
If he saw a flat tire,
he was the first one there of the jack.
The whole town saw him as a hero,
even if he was a fucking terror at home.
It's almost like he did that so he could be a terror at home.
And he did it with impunity.
Or that he was trying to do everything.
A lot of these guys also do this.
They do everything and their power to be nice to everyone around them
because they think it makes up for the terror that they are at home.
It does not.
Also around this time, Dennis's brother, Dave, was dying from cancer.
The whole town knew about it.
So then in January, 2006, Dennis gets a hernia and goes in for surgery
and ends up dying a couple days later from a bacterial infection.
When news spread in Bristol about Dennis's passing, everyone would correct them.
They would say, no, you mean Dave died?
No, Dave's like, I'm still here.
I still live.
You know, I spent my entire life dedicated to the medical sciences.
I have three patents in my name, and my fucking janitor brother gets called the king.
I'm fighting bravely against Kant's.
every day
nobody cares
oh but Dennis has
football so he does
his football
just Connecticut allow
kill me
did they allow
assistant suicide
because I'm done with this
kill me I'll do it myself
they booked the largest
funeral home in Bristol
and it was not big enough
to house the service for the king
Jefferson's funeral home
the largest funeral home in Bristol
Listen, we'll do four at once
We got a shit ton of chance
Try the salad bar
I actually just learned from David Dust Malton this week
About the idea of leased caskets
Oh yeah
I didn't know you could lease a casket for a funeral
Put you in the casket for the funeral
They then remove you
And then bury you just like in a fucking
Well they cremate you
But this idea of like
So we'll just reuse it
Interesting how I actually thought it was illegal
I thought there was a whole episode of six feet
under where they talked about how it was illegal
to reuse a casket.
I'm sure they have to tell you.
They have to tell you.
Yeah, I think if they don't tell you, then it's illegal.
I mean, as someone who had to buy
a couple caskets, a cheaper one's always nice.
Caskets, you slay.
Don't let dasmaltz in here, you say that.
I know, I know. I don't want to affect this bottom line.
There was over an hour wait for people
to pay their respects. Dennis was
the most important person in Aaron's
life, and he spent pretty much
every moment outside of school with his father.
At the funeral, Aaron showed little to no emotion.
DJ was a mess.
The night after the funeral, Aaron had a basketball game and scored 30 points.
When he dunked, the crowd went insane.
The next night, he scored 31. No emotion.
I'm the best at basketball now.
So now, it's just...
It's up to me.
I just love his son.
If he was taller, he probably could have been a professional basketball.
they say because he was so good
but he was six too
but he's also maybe because he was up
against a bunch of kids that he was just
physically so dominant
yeah like I said he had incredible
he could jump like a motherfucker
big ups yeah yeah so he could dunk
in seventh grade which is
pretty much unheard of yeah but that
the way that he could jump also made him an
incredible receiver oh he's quite good
but also good from getting his
feet taken out from under omen
landed on your head you almost call him a power
receiver
I don't even want to tell you what his actual
fucking position was called
because it's just going to come to me with the fucking
The hacky ass fucking
The hacky fucking boring zoo DJ
They beat you to the joke many years ago
Oh don't you worry about it
So now it's just Terry and Aaron at the house
And she's had a pretty public affair going on with Jeffrey Cummings
and Aaron ain't taking any of this shit,
but he's on track to get out of there soon.
He should have killed that guy.
He thought about it.
Yeah.
He definitely fought him a couple times, I'm sure.
But he's on track to get out of there soon.
At this point, to his father's wishes,
he's verbally committed to Yukon,
where his brother is the QB,
and he's going to be the tight end.
It's storybook.
But during this time,
Aaron, who doesn't really like hanging out with his mom,
started buddying up with his cousin
Tanya. Jeffrey Cummings' ex-wife.
It's really weird. Yeah, they had
plenty of shit to talk together,
so this trauma bonded them
for life. Tanya kind of seems like
almost like a weird witch woman.
She's intense. Tanya's very,
very intense. Very haunted.
But Tanya is just, she's
one of those people, like,
well, you know what, if I just let them
drink here at my house, at least I know where they are.
I know. Yes. Yes. And so she just
She's the sort of woman that brings all the high school kids over to her house and hangs out with them.
And lets them deal drugs and all that stuff.
But it's like, well, as long as I, but really she's just wanting to fucking hang out.
She's lonely.
She wants to be seen as cool by children.
Exactly.
So Jeff and Aaron, they even switched homes.
Jeff moving with Terry and Aaron moved in with Tanya, his cousin that was 14 years older than him.
Tanya's house was the hangout for lots of unsavory people.
There was Uncle Tito and two other gangbangers important.
to our story, Carlos Ortiz and Bo Wallace. This crew would end up being a bad influence on Aaron.
Ortiz and Wallace would be with him when he murdered Odin Lloyd seven-ish years later.
In a recorded conversation with Terry from prison later on, Aaron accused his mother of never
giving him his ADHD medication when he lived with her. She said, she hit him in the head with a hammer,
and that was his medication. She considered his Adderall to be likened to cocaine, so she never let him
take it. It's almost like, is it a doctor?
And doesn't know what the medication does.
Well, this for me, the ADHD thing, this is the skeleton key to understanding Aaron Hernandez.
Because with somebody with, like, it sounds like he has severe ADHD and, you know,
severe ADHD, as I know from experience, it causes emotional dysregulation, it causes
anger problems, it causes over sensitivity. Lack of impulse control.
Lack of impulse control, and it also can make you extraordinarily good at one thing.
Because it's things ADHD is also, like there are a lot of negative things to it,
but there are also a lot of very positive things to it where you can lock into one thing
and you can focus so hard on that one thing that you end up being incredible at it.
And for Aaron Hernandez, that was football.
He locked into football and he just had the mind for it because that's what his brain wanted.
It just, football always gave his ADHD brain what he wanted.
He could hyper-focus on it.
He could be incredible at it.
But it also made him very emotionally disregulated at all times.
Yeah.
Even in high school, he spent up to 60 hours a week on football.
Yeah.
You know, and in the end, thank God it was football in terms of making money,
not like water coloring or something.
Because it wouldn't have made anybody anything, you know?
I think about who he would have murdered at the fucking art store.
Bob Ross.
Wow.
I'll give you a happy little bit.
Yeah, you want to see.
But yeah, that emotional dysregulation, I think that paired with CTE is really fucking dangerous.
And the oversensitivity as well, you know, we're going to see a lot of times with some of these attempted murders as they will, I think, I believe are completely linked to oversensitivity and also extreme drug use because extreme drug use, especially weed.
Not great for an ADHD brain.
Aaron's verbal commitment to Yukon didn't stop college recruiters from going after Aaron anyway.
With no one guiding him, he gets wooed by the then current national champions of Florida Gators.
They invite him down to Gainesville, Florida.
It's awesome.
It's warm.
The stadium is cool as shit.
They throw his name on the Jumbotron.
He bought in a thousand percent.
Aaron tells Yukon, you can go fuck yourself.
I'm going to be a gator.
Now, it's a, but UF is still a huge college football town.
And it's cool.
But is it bigger than Yukon?
Yeah.
Way bigger.
Way bigger.
Youcon's more of a basketball school.
But they're in the Big East and shit, and they do have football, but it's like, it's
not even close.
Children's sports scares me.
I don't think children should be.
I don't think you should be allowed to make money off of sports until you're 21 years old.
Yeah.
Either way, I'm happy to work gators into the story.
but um
i believe that i believe the college football players should be paid
they are starting to get paid i think they deserve it
personally because most of them never go on and they've devoted their entire life to this
and there's money there so why not pay the people fucking giving themselves
but eddie i don't think you understand then how are they are supposed to make all that money
if they give it to these stupid kids they're just going to blow it on fucking gum
you know how kids are they going to blow it on burritos they're not going to invest that
money. Now, I'm not trying to make this thing a sports history podcast. In fact, I'm doing my
best to not talk about football, the game, as much as possible in the story. This matters for
Aaron Hernandez. Urban Meyer, the head coach at Florida at the time, knew getting Hernandez
on his team would really help them stay champions. But at 17 years old, reeling from the sudden
death of his father, Urban knew he had to get Aaron down to Florida early.
So they worked it out that Aaron would graduate high school early, and then he would go to Florida that spring and skip his high school graduation.
Yeah.
He didn't graduate early because he was good at class.
No.
They just let him go to Florida.
That's awesome.
And they pulled a lot of strings to make that happen because I actually tried graduating early, too, to get the fuck out.
And it was difficult, like, even for me, who was, like, actually, like, a fucking student student.
You were good at school.
Yeah, I was good at school.
And there were so many hoops to jump through.
And the thing is with Aaron Hernandez, whatever Aaron Hernandez wants, he gets.
Yeah.
And like I say, it's nice to be able to skip all that grieving.
Yeah.
Well, this is something Urban Meyer actually was known for doing.
It was a tactic he would often use to make his teams great.
He get the kids in in January so they could study the playbook and practice with the team in spring, take summer classes, and be ready for football by the fall semester.
That's awesome.
Yes, sure.
Well, I mean, it's...
Man, fuck school, man.
Yeah, it's a great tactic for fucking get for winning football games.
Yeah.
Man, they're just throwing these 17-year-old kids like into insane, insane situation.
But you know what's funny?
I feel like when I was a younger man, I actually didn't understand pressure the way I understand it now.
Like, when I was like 18, I was flung in front.
I remember how many times I had to go in front of like 2,000 kids and just riff and like,
and I didn't even think about it for a second.
too, too. I would host the pep rallies. I would do
an hour. And I would just like, if you
told me I had to do that now, I'd have a panic
attack. Yeah, well, like, now, then I could have just, I
didn't think about the pressure of it.
Oh, shit, I did, man. I mean, because
I was also the same way. Like, you know, performing
was fine. Like, I could go up and perform in front
of people that was whatever.
But I, you know, I played football all
throughout my, hell, my senior year.
You know, I was, I played
safety, and I was
pretty bad at it. I was not good. Both my
brothers were incredible at football. I'd come from a
very, very small town where football is
incredibly important.
Well, they're got big shoulders.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah.
They're very much, they're bigger than I am.
Charlie's a big boy.
Charlie's a very big boy, but Charlie works at it.
But, you know, I'm, I was put out in this position.
I was put back at safety.
And, you know, there was a lot of hope for me.
There was a lot of hope like, there's another parks coming up.
Like, all these parks is, like, parks are good at football.
So he's going to come in and fucking Marcus once he gets in.
Once he gets feet under.
Hello, everyone.
Yeah.
It is I. I have you enjoyed the cure?
No, I was actually pretty fucking good until I broke my leg my junior year.
And so I missed my entire junior year and then came back my senior year.
And I was behind.
I was in the wrong position.
I should have been at fucking running back instead of safety.
But since I was back there, every team that played against us knew that Parks is bad.
Parks is a shitty safety.
All you got to do is just keep throwing and he can't, you know, and we can beat.
So we went three and seven that year, so I had to spend that entire year, like, sitting back there with these shitheads on the other side of the fucking fence going, come on, Parks, get your shit together.
Come on, Parks, come on, Yeager, come on, Parks!
It's just like a whole fucking town.
And the next day, no, dude, it, you have- You suck.
You see me big and fat, suck on the big of a big-off.
You suck, Marcus.
You have good football.
it fucked me up
in ways that I'm still dealing with as a 42 year old man
of like you know having like you know
in the next day he's like fuck you doing parks
you know I'd be out at parties like parks
you got to work it out man you got to figure shit out
and it's just like the happiness of an entire town
was placed on my shoulders
I was so thankful to just utterly reject any of it
I remember it's just so happy to just not feel that
Thank God I didn't have parents
that gave a shit about any of that
because as soon as I tried sports
and as soon as I realized that I had limitations
I was like, bye!
Like I was like, oh no, I'm not a negative feedback, girlie.
No, my parents were actually fine.
My parents were actually very good about that.
They were, they supported me in the things
that I was actually good at.
But when after that season and basketball,
after football was over and basketball came around
was like, I'm not dealing with that shit anymore, I'm not playing.
But it's a fucking pariah because I didn't
because I didn't participate in basketball.
But you just hated me because I sucked.
Yeah.
No, exactly.
You all just hated me because I sucked.
I'm allowing another guy to take it.
Nope.
Dude, the same thing happened to me when I finally quit football for, you know, weed in theater.
Yeah.
They treated me like shit for years, the coaches.
They were, and then they would, like, they would try to talk me into coming back.
And then one time I came back for a little bit, and then they wouldn't even let me practice and shit.
So I was like, you know, what the fuck am I doing?
Yeah.
This is crazy.
And, you know, I was all fucked up, too.
Because I, like, my dad, like, if I had a.
bad game, I would get like punished.
Yeah. You know, I would like get like grounded.
At least I didn't get it that bad.
I didn't get it. My parents were cool with that.
They didn't, they didn't. I started taking steroids.
It wasn't like steroids, steroids. I didn't know I was taking steroids.
It was a, I bought it from GNC. It was a thing called Androsteen.
Oh, yeah. And the, um, the, the, the spokesperson was Mark McGuire.
And, uh, and, uh, he was fine. He was completely clean.
And I was popping those motherfuckers like crazy. I would go nuts. I would like eat grass.
I tried to scare everyone.
You know, it was like fucking intense, you know.
Yeah, and you didn't realize it.
And then when we found out it was steroids and they were taking it off the shelves,
what do you think we did?
We went to GNC and bought all of it.
Yeah, of course.
And so I was all fucked up on that for a while at 16.
So it's just, and that was just, like I said, and I turned out pretty normal.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, that's the crazy shit.
No, there's a lot of sliding doors with this shit.
But, yeah, so there are definitely ways in which this cut in which football really fucks up kids
in this country in Aaron Hernandez is the, the,
worst-case scenario of how badly football can
fuck up a kid. Yeah. The University
of Florida, it's
actually an amazing school to get
an education at, and it should have
been a perfect fit for Aaron. But
he didn't give no shits about no damn
school. Yep. And why should he?
He's a guaranteed pro athlete.
Now, Gainesville, being a great
town to go to college, is also a great
town to party. And the only thing
more important than education in this
small town is the football team. I'd argue
say it's the only important thing in
that small town. Maybe. It's up there. Well, the hospital's great. Yeah, you got a lot of good
doctors come out of here. Shands. Yes. And they helped Aaron get away with murder. Excuse the
expression. Truth is, he was known around campus as a fun, outgoing dude. But in Coach Meyer's
office, he was often in there wailing about how much he missed his father. Meyer really put in
the extra time with Aaron because Aaron needed it and he needed Aaron. Even as a freshman,
Aaron was quickly turning into an on-campus celebrity.
He was able to go into liquor stores and buy booze no problem at 17 years old.
He would frequent a popular bar called The Swap.
And this is exactly where he had his first violent brushup.
First violent brushup that was reported.
Yes, that was, yeah, exactly.
One night, he was hanging with Tim Tebow.
Boom!
And tennis player Sean Young, when a waitress came over with two shots,
He took them no problem and went about his night.
But as they went to leave, bar manager Michael Tapphorn presented him with a $12 bill.
And Aaron said something similar to...
I play football. We don't pay for shit.
That's right.
Tebow and other patrons try to diffuse the situation.
Let's pray on it, son. Let's pray on it, dog.
Come on, let's play Christ together, dog.
Come on, let's bring Christ in this, dog.
Tim Debo can fucking suck my dick.
What a guy is the worst.
He is the most annoying football player
of all times.
How is he more annoying than Aaron Hernandez?
Legitimately, I think he's a worst person than Aaron Hernandez.
Taphorn grabbed Hernandez and then Hernandez sucker punched him,
rupturing Tapphorn's eardrum in the process,
and then he ran away leaving his sneaker behind like a Cinderella in berserker boat.
Only my true princess will fire my sneaker and bring it back to me.
Later, a university lawyer would convince the bar manager and owners not to press charges, offering them tickets and an apology from Hernandez.
That's as good as money.
They never got their apology, but occasionally Hernandez would creep by in his car, making intimidating finger gun gestures towards the employees.
Jesus.
Well, I mean, it's not just, you know, them convincing him to not press charges.
You know, if this guy takes Aaron Hernandez out, if he takes their fucking, you know, star,
if he takes the U of F star player out of circulation, his bar's done.
Oh, yeah.
No, they're fucked.
They're boycotting that bar.
He loses his entire livelihood.
That bar gets boycotted.
People stop going there.
And he's just fucking done because some shithead kid decided to punch him in his fucking head.
Sports bars across the nation rely on football.
If football ever ended, the restaurant industry would take a giant hit.
Yes.
And I think that's one of the reasons.
It's all connected.
It's amazing.
There's giant industries built on top of a billion-dollar industry.
Because it's all feeding.
It's very, very difficult.
Yeah.
Now, this may not seem like a crazy, important incident,
but this is really when Hernandez started to feel like he was untouchable.
There was another incident when Aaron was with teammate Ronnie Wilson at a nightclub called XS,
when they got into an argument with another Patriot.
and Wilson went to his car, got his AK-47 to scare a guy, which worked.
AK-37, maybe wouldn't have done the trick, but the 47, they're great for that.
Hey, I had an AK-47 when I was their age, too.
You're just like that.
There must be a Florida thing.
Wow.
Oh, you know, AK-47s were kind of weirdly prevalent.
I bought mine on sale with my tax return.
Nice.
Well, in Texas, our drug dealers were much more like handgun guys.
They always made sure to have it on the table
When you went by to buy weed
Yeah, I remember that
It was so much harder to keep the scale on the table with the AK
You know, it takes up so much room
Yeah, no, no, my guy just had a Glock
You know, and then he'd make you sit there and watch weeds with them
While you stared at the gun
That's like me, that's like, oh
We smoked out of the shotgun.
Nice.
Yeah, that was cool.
He called the, you were there for that, weren't you?
He called the cops and Wilson fired the gun into the air,
which gave Wilson a hundred hours community service
and he was able to rejoin the team
after he finished that slap on the wrist.
Urban Meyer would start to
take shit around town for his players
acting out. He was an advocate for
second, third, and fourth chances, which
worked back when he coached Utah.
But this season in Florida, his
loosey-goosey discipline made the
Gators the most arrested team of all
time. Florida State.
Number two. Wow, great.
Later in a
2015 ESPN investigation,
It was noted that University of Florida football and basketball players avoided criminal charges.
Two-thirds of the time they were arrested.
My God.
Well, I mean, and that's the thing with Aaron Hernandez is that it's not just the people in his immediate life that let him get away with everything.
He has existed in a system that lets people like him get away with anything and everything since he was about 14 years old.
As long as he keeps putting up numbers.
Yeah, as long as he keeps playing, as long as he still.
scores touchdowns that he's going to keep, he's going to believe that he's going to get
out of whatever happens to him. Yeah, man. It's fucked up. You know, I really do think I hate
football. Yeah, it's really changed. Yeah, it really has. I'm working on it, though. I'm still
trying to figure out how I feel. We'll see how I feel after this.
Fly from North Lane. Coach Meyer, um, determined to keep Hernandez on the right path.
He put Tim Tebow in charge of him. Tebow,
a known evangelical was
notoriously one of the most religious
players of all time
failure
and he was
he fucking failed
NFL he was awful
yeah he really did shit the bet
isn't he playing for like Romania now
he's a commentator now
he would kneel and pray
anytime he scored a touchdown
and it became so nationally known
that he would do that it became a trend
called T-boing
T-bo would often write Bible verses
on his eye black as well.
John 316 was his favorite.
And it goes like this.
For God so loved.
Actually, Henry, you want to take the Bible quote?
But God so loved the world
that he gave his one and only son
that whoever believes in him
shall not be Paris,
but have eternal life.
John 316 would be written in blood
on Hernandez's prison cell
and in ink on his forehead
when he would commit suicide years later.
Yank!
yeah that's a
that's a yikers
that's a long
that's a long kind of phrase
for him to remember
no he just wrote John 316
if you write that
you don't have to write the other
the rest of the phrase
yeah that's the whole thing
you write John 316
is the others are you bad at the Bible
God's going off the world
that he gave his one
I know it's on
and Hernandez
well Tebow
annoying Jesus freak
that he is was a tenacious player.
He would often finish games
injured. In high school, he
made a game-winning 29-yard
run on a broken leg to win
the game, and in Florida
threw a game-winning TD to Hernandez
with a separated shoulder.
I like my players not getting hurt.
Then you don't
like any players. Because
they all play like this. No!
Then on Sundays,
he literally would be a
preacher at church. So,
Meyer made Tebow Hernandez's neighbor in Gainesville and roommate when he was on the road.
It was kind of working.
Oh, my God.
I'm fucking him just all day.
I've been like, Aaron, come on, let's pray on this now.
Come on.
Let's hear Aaron.
It's been like, what is prayer on?
They prayed together.
They practice after practice and shit.
But the problem was every time Aaron would go back home to Bristol, Connecticut, he would
reconnect with his bad boy crew of cousin talking.
Tony, Tito, Carlos Ortiz, and Bo Wallace.
They would also often come to home games in Gainesville and cause trouble around town.
His brother, DJ, would even plead with Coach Meyer to not let him come back home
because he would just slide back into hanging out with these gangsters again.
Every time Aaron came back to Gainesville from Bristol, it was like starting from scratch.
Aaron felt allegiance to them because they were the ones that were there for him when Dennis died.
I, man, don't know how many times I got to say this,
but just because someone was kind to you when you were younger,
that does not mean that you have to fucking let those people bring you down
for the rest of your fucking life.
Well, also, he's the type of guy that is now living like his father.
So Aaron Hernandez, he views himself, his father is as a role model.
The father's the king, right?
Every decision he's made, everybody's lauded.
Even though he ended his life in obscurity and sadly died, right?
Like, you know, like he technically, you'd say his father,
flamed out. Oh, very much so. Yeah, that's why I pushed his own kids so hard. Yes, but they viewed him as
somebody that was a, you know, this perfect role model. So I could see Aaron Hernandez is walking
around and he has an idiot's idea of what a confident man does and what a confident man chooses.
And so in his way, he's like, those are my friends. They've always been my friends. And when you
say that they're not my friends anymore, I get me because they're my friends. Because it's this whole
like he's he now views I think in his own way no I protect them now like they're I protect them
they're all this is my coterie and they all suck his dick and they all like yeah or and whatever you
want Aaron because they know he's going to be a millionaire yes yeah maybe but I mean I think it's like
one of those things townie it's like a townie thing it is a towny thing yeah and I think a lot of it
also has to do with with his intense need for structure and he's just always looking for it wherever
he goes because you know with the severe ADHD like this is a guy he should have been on medication
yeah he should have been in therapy he should have gotten structure at all points and I think
when he goes back to Bristol he's looking for some sort of structure he's looking for something
but all he finds uh are people that are just telling him what he wants to hear he's literally
sleeping on the couch while they're doing drugs around him yeah yeah and he just thinks it's he that is
his version of what family and home is yeah yeah because it's because it's his cousin his first cousin
that took him in and so he thinks all this is normal they can't be wrong they can't be wrong it's my family
because she and also she loves me so much and she's the one and you know her mother is or errin hernandez
his mother is hitting him in the head with a fucking hammer to try to cure his ADHD and you know his
cousin tanya is patting his head and saying i love you and that's what he wants it's a tv version
of what a happy family is and that's what he wants because that's all he can kind of remember
yeah all right so now let's get into the uh shooting incident
in late September 2007, after UF lost an early division game to Auburn.
Tensions were high, losing such a pivotal game so early in the season.
Aaron Hernandez was out blowing off some steam with some other gaiters
when an ex-gater, now NFL player Reggie Nelson, came back to town to celebrate.
Everyone was partying at the nightclub, creatively called the venue.
Along for the ride was the Pouncey Twins, who would be connected.
connected to Hernandez for years to come.
They're...
He even tattooed their initials on his body.
It should be noted that...
Those two guys.
Was it two guys?
Two guys.
Mike Pouncy and I actually,
I didn't take the time to learn how to pronounce the other Pouncey's name.
If you have a man
whose last name is Pouncey
tattooed on your body,
you might be a homosexual.
Well, it should be noted
that Mike Pouncey later had a very public incident
when he played for the Miami Dolphins.
Him and offensive lineman Richie Incognito
tortured and bullied teammate Jonathan Martin for being gay.
They were reprimanded
and Martin quit football and later got in trouble
for an IG post he made of a shotgun
that was captioned when you're a bully victim
and a coward, your options are suicide or revenge.
It's interesting how these things keep coming around.
A lot of themes that are repeated.
Oh, yeah.
Now, the details vary between sources, but allegedly one of the pouncy twins got a chain stolen off his neck by some local gangster named Randall Kaysen, who had it out for UF players because one kicked the shit out of his brother a week prior.
Never have an issue with the entire football team.
It seems that, like, they might have a bunch of numbers against you and they might just beat the living fuck out of you to your dad.
They're kind of strong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was fucking tired.
The football players at Texas Tech.
Oh, I can't even.
You stayed away from the football.
Like, they were-
I gave the FSU players a wide berth.
They were like,
they were such dickheads that like when one, like,
one of the fuck football players like got paralyzed during his season.
And everyone was like,
good.
I hate that.
That guy,
because he was a fucking monster around campus.
He would go into parties and start punching people.
I did not meet a nice one.
Yeah.
They were very.
frightening. And they were too big
to be in school. He shouldn't have been
let go. I think you get to a certain
weight class. You can't be amongst
other kids anymore.
Like you've got to leave. You're too
big. You're too dangerous.
I'm sure some of them are very nice.
Sure. Man. And these schools
are football is like a big fucking deal.
Because when I was... It's not a true. Jamie
Wilson, you just show up and just park halfway
across all the handicapped spots.
It's like, you can't say anything to it.
Oh yeah, Chris Ricks, man. He always
get in trouble for parking in the handicapped spots.
Jesus.
Yeah, yeah.
And they were just, I guess they were just mostly like,
one day I'll make one.
After the club closed, there was a quick scuffle in the parking lot.
The Pouncy Twins are here.
Hello, my name is Michael.
This is my twin, the Pouncy Twin.
I can't pronounce my other name.
He is unpronounceable, and thus he is ungovernable.
I'm the Pounce.
Pouncy twin.
Tie the back of my costume.
My butt is hanging.
I don't worry about that.
I want to make sure that your butt is not open to the public.
We're the pouncy twin.
When Kaysen and one of his crew went up to them and said,
fuck your chain and then showed him a gun in his waistband,
which obviously made the pouncy twins and Hernandez pissed.
But it was all broken up by the NFL or Nelson,
and the night did not end there, unfortunately.
The locals, led by Kaysen, were stuck in traffic.
and their crowned Vic.
Late nights in college towns tend to be a standstill of drunk drivers when the bars let out
on game nights.
It's chaos.
Yes.
Because it's a bunch of people that are illegally drinking who also don't know how to drive.
Yeah.
In a traffic jam.
Yeah.
It's the worst.
Kaysen stuck his head out the window to holler at some chicks in the car next to him.
He then noticed that they were being followed by a big black SUV with the players inside.
But the 2 a.m.
procession traffic had everyone at a standstill.
All of the people in Kaysen's crowned Vic were strapped except Squirt, who was sitting in the passenger seat.
Shit was being talked.
The tension started to develop.
It was a developing situation.
Yes.
They were on University Drive, and a sign ahead of them said, welcome to the University of Florida.
They were in the middle of everything.
Then, according to Kaysen, apparently a man that looked exactly like Hernandez, walked up to the car, stuck a gun in the window, and fired five.
times. Squirt was shot in the head and the driver was shot in the arm. Then as a distraction,
someone threw some black cats in the street while the man who looked exactly like Hernandez
ran away. Let's go to the CTE Mobile. Other witnesses said the man who shot the gun was a black
man with cornrows. Now at the hospital, Kaysen was... I certainly made squirt. Squirt. That's right.
Now at the hospital, Kaysen was beside himself. He felt guilty that he was. He felt guilty that
He gotten his friend Squirt shot in the head.
Kaysen and the other fellows with guns in the car had local gang ties.
But Squirt was just some dude in community college with shitty friends.
My name's Squirt.
Kaysen was screaming, it should have been me over and over again
when Detective Patty Nixon arrived to take his statement.
He fingered Aaron Hernandez as the shooter and the pouncy twins as the instigators.
I'm not an instigator.
I am a master.
I'm going to go shit.
I'm not.
the flippiliter. Even though
uninvolved witnesses had
said the shooter was a 5-8
black man with cornrows, Hernandez
was 6-2 Hispanic and covered
in tattoos. Squirt,
a black man was not dead
and could not speak. Coincidence.
But when ass
who shot him, he kept pointing to
the palm of his hand, not the
black side of his hand. He would like
point at the black side of his hand and go like, no,
and then turn his hand over and point at the palm.
Yeah. They took this
as it was possibly Aaron Hernandez who did the crime.
It was the thing from the Adams family films.
Or possibly it was just the side effect of being shot in the head.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
He could probably report it to a little man.
He's like, the little man will tell you.
The little man knows.
There's a witness in my hand.
Detective Patty Nixon.
Squirt Jr.
reached out to the university for them to help bring in the involved parties,
but was confused on how it took them almost five hours to comply.
They were getting their story straight with the football team's lawyer.
Yeah, that's what's incredible about it is that it is every time Aaron Hernandez gets into trouble at the University of Florida,
like he immediately gets a lawyer from the university itself that it gets him out of trouble every time
and tells him what to do and what not to do.
He's a real good football player.
He was the best. He was incredible.
They had two national championships when he was there.
Yeah, the lawyer, his name was Huntley, I believe.
And he was like an effortlessly good player.
Yes.
He was like one of those guys that just showed up and he just was immediately better than everybody else.
He could party all night long and show up and fucking murder it.
He was also 24 and 20th.
He was like, but I mean, even so, man.
Like I had a hard time fucking, you know, showing up to play well when I was, you know,
I remember our coach would always say,
smells like a goddamn brewery out here.
Oh, you fucking boys.
I know you've been drinking last night
because we were all playing like shit
because we had been drinking the night before.
It takes a special kind of person
to party all night and show up and still play.
Yeah.
The lawyer.
The lawyer, Huntley?
He said, he's a dog.
Yeah, he's got a dog.
He's got a dog.
That's me, man.
I got that fucking dog, man.
It's little.
No, yeah.
The lawyer, Huntley,
he had a signed picture of the team
from Urban Meyer in his office.
and Urban Meyer wrote on there
Thanks for all your help
You're the 12th member of our team
Basically
Well that is the lawyer
For the most arrested college team of all time
What can I say I know when the getting's good
Yeah thank you guys
And there's nothing I love more than getting
Children off for violent crimes
And possibly sexual ones as well
All I'll tell you is you keep them crimes coming
I'll keep lawyering
You know what I say
Fuck the victim
Let's get another championship
Because that's what matters.
When held for questioning, the Pouncy Twins stories matched mostly,
saying the man stole Mike Pouncey's chain at the club,
approached them in the parking lot and showed them a chain and a gun.
Yeah, you shit-head children bullshit.
Yeah.
Then the football players went to a friend's apartment,
got checkers, and went home at 2.30 in the morning.
The only thing is, one Pouncey Twins said Aaron went home with them,
and another said he went walking around.
When Detective Nixon went to question Hernandez, she was a little upset to find him fast asleep in the interrogation room.
He's always at ease.
Yeah.
They said that's what his closest friend said is that they never saw him show fear once, ever, for anything.
After some time, she released the pounceies and Nelson and then went to wake up and question Hernandez.
After getting his rights read to him, he simply stated,
I'm not going to say anything.
I want my lawyer present.
I'm sorry my lawyer told me to say that
Direct quote
So between the great UF lawyers
And the unreliable witnesses
And most of the victims
Being gangsters themselves
No one ever was charged in the incident
Aaron never mentioned
That he had a visitor with him that night
Neither did the Pouncey Twins
The detail was only shared by Aaron's mother
In an interview with the Orlando Sentinel
After Aaron's suicide
Squirt, who ended up living,
but had to learn how to speak and walk again,
never got any retribution for getting shot in the head.
When asked about it today, his mother just simply says,
we live in Gator Country.
With a stadium that fits 88,000 people
and is usually oversold for games
in a city of less than 150,000 residents,
it's hard to argue at Squirt's mom.
There's a lot of money in the Florida Gators
being a winning football team
and the players getting special treatment
to make sure that no matter what,
they were on the field ready to play on Saturday.
Urban Meyer, as complicit as he may be
in Aaron developing his superiority complex,
did his best to keep Aaron on the right path.
Aaron even lived with him for a while.
His phone was always open to him night and day,
and his wife, a psychologist,
would often hold private sessions with him.
Ooh.
In the end,
sexy.
In the end, though, he looked
past some of Aaron's troubles more
than he should have, but the pressure
to win for a high-level coach
can cloud your judgment. Even
being a two-time national champion,
you're only as good as you are this
season, and your job is on the line
just about every single year, no matter
how good you are. All the pain
comes rolling down from the very,
very top. It's called the
viciousness of capitalism. Yep. The
Pressure. Pressure starts up top and just goes all the way down.
Yeah, man. Aaron Hernandez was one of those it players.
He was as good as any one coach Meyer had ever coached.
He really was.
Yeah, but his off-the-field incidents continued to pile up between fights,
heavy marijuana use, and hanging around with unsavory characters back in Bristol,
made his baggage more than the coach was willing to continue with.
Aaron missed the first game of the 2008 season from a failed,
drug test.
Too little weed.
Coach Meyer had him listed as hurt, but put a boot on his foot.
A player suddenly on the sideline with a boot on his foot usually meant they weren't hurt.
They were there for disciplinary reasons.
He would have a good season as the Gators won the BCS championship.
His daily marijuana use continued to be a problem, and he was not hiding it, but finding
ways to pass the drug test with clean urine.
He would push the clean urine through a fake penis if being watched.
That was very common.
Yes.
I remember these things were being called Wizzinators.
Yes.
I had one for a job interview.
Really?
Yeah, I only had to take one drug test my whole life.
And I did get clean for it.
You know what the job was?
What?
Janitor.
They fucking, yeah, I worked that job for like two years.
But yeah, they were like, yeah, you know, we want to hire you full time,
but you're going to take a drug test.
I'm like, if you want to hire me full time,
You can have to wait a month.
And then we'll take the drug test, and then we'll see.
Yeah, yeah, because, God.
You need drugs.
You need drugs.
Yeah.
I want you to be on drugs as a gym.
The 2009 season, Aaron Hernandez, had an amazing junior year as a Florida Gator and won the Mackie Award, which goes out to the best tight end in college football.
This award will usually guarantee a first round draft pick and a huge contract in the NFL.
But Hernandez, knowing that he was maybe knowing that he was not mature enough.
to move on to the NFL, decided to stay in college football for one more season.
I bet you it's also just kind of, you don't know.
You don't really know what you're going to be like once you go into the NFL.
Yeah.
I think that you, he obviously has a lot of confidence, but people's, it all changes once you're
on the big, once you're in the big fucking lakes.
In Urban Meyer, even though he knew how talented and a straight up force of nature he was
on the field, told him there was no room for him on the team anymore and that he should
enter the NFL draft.
I didn't know this.
I did not because every
documentary I saw always said like
Aaron Hernandez decided to go to the NFL
I didn't know the Urban Meyer said like
I don't want to deal with you anymore get the fuck out of
Yeah he's like there's no he just figured he was going
Yeah and then when Aaron was like hey listen I'm going to stick around
He's like you can't
Yeah yeah you got to go wow so he just failed him up
Yeah he just told him to get out of there
That's incredible for him
Well I'm sure Irbyr probably had planned
He'd probably recruited and so like okay here's my next tight end
like that's going to come up after Aaron Hernandez
and like, yeah, why are you? No, get out of here.
I mean, the same thing happened to me in theater.
They're like, you can't go to districts this year
because we're working on the junior. You're a senior.
And I was just like, well, but I'm a senior.
I finally got my spot. I've only got the fucking spot.
I mean, I wasn't that good.
But you won in the end, didn't you?
I did. I'm here.
He could no longer handle Hernandez's weed smoking,
his overall bullshit and off-the-field violence.
The onto field violence was more than welcome.
Of course.
So now, Aaron declares to enter the NFL draft on the fourth anniversary of his father's death and is ready to kiss Florida goodbye for now.
He signed with Brian Murphy of Athlete's First Sports Agency.
Murphy knew Aaron was arguably the most physically superior athlete entering the NFL draft.
But he didn't just have baggage.
This dude had luggage and no one was helping him carry it.
So Murphy told Hernandez
Fuck taking your statistics class again
Come on out to Cali with your brother DJ
And we'll get you trained up
And ready for the NFL Combine
The NFL Combine sounds like it's fun
Yeah well the NFL Combine
Is an insane experience
That has been compared by some as a slave auction
Oh
329 players are invited to show their strength, speed,
agility and intelligence
Whoa in their curiosity
with their creativity
their whimsy
their whimsy
know what is it
they all in their underwear
their creativity
uniqueness nerve and talent
that's what they need to show
charisma
uniqueness
nervin talent
yes
Hernandez showed up
you've scored three
on the cunt scale
thanks
you have to play for the Cleveland Browns
oh no
not the brookies
they named their team
after shit
dukees
Hernandez showed up to the
combine with a torn muscle in his back
so he sat on the sidelines for most of the time
but the scouts still
were drawn to him watching him weigh
in and get measured look how big and legs
they're in their underwear
it's weird
that's why people compare it to a slave auction
because it's like they do everything but check their teeth
yeah they watch your teeth watch their gate
yeah check under their tails
yeah then came the intelligent
test now Aaron Hernandez
might not have been the best student in the world, but he knew football just as well as
anyone. And he scored well. So what's this? That's a football. And what's this? That's
a helmet. Ten out of ten. Well, he scored ten out of ten for focus and mental quickness.
ADHD. Nine out of ten for self-efficacy. What does that even mean? I don't know. And seven
out of ten for dedication. But the category of social maturity, he scored one out of ten.
What's you talking about?
Fuck you.
Oh, man.
They came out his ass hard, dude.
They pressed him about his shitty friends back home, his failed drug tests,
his off-the-field incidents, his dead dad,
his dad being able not to stay in school,
and who murdered the cop and his mom's new shitty husband,
anything they could do to get a rise out of him to see how he reacted.
You shut the fuck up!
You shut the fuck up!
Basically how he reacted.
Not a good way to beat her.
in the combat. It's not. No, it's, it's
like almost like he's the Ghostbusters
two mood slime. And they're trying to
get him to bubble over.
Rumors started to develop
about his gang ties. You're not about an unstable
molecule!
Football players having gang ties
is not a new concept. It happens
often, actually. Most players
come from poverty-stricken neighborhoods
around many unsavory characters,
but Aaron loved his gang
affiliated members back home and
considered them to be family.
Then came the pro-day workouts back in Gainesville.
He had to overperform there, as well did Tim Tebow, who didn't have a great combine as
well.
It turns out that was because he was a bad football player.
Yeah.
He just choked.
It happens to quarterbacks a lot.
They are amazing in college, and then they just go to the NFL, and they just shit the bad.
Was it Johnny Football from A&M?
Yeah.
God helps though.
So you better be good.
Tebow was good for, like, one season in the NFL.
then everyone figured out how to go against them
and he never could do it again.
Hernandez overperformed at the pro-day workouts, though,
back in Gainesville.
You got a 4-5-40-yard dash.
You could bench-press more than any other tight end,
but his character would continue to be called into question.
Now, April 22nd, 2010...
Yeah, man, for this thing, man,
Greta Turnburg isn't fucking there.
If Greta Turnburg could put a fucking 285,
you'd use her.
Now, April 22nd,
2010 was the first day of the NFL
draft. Aaron should be a top 10
pick, but the teams are passing on him.
Three of his teammates, including
Tebow and Pouncy, are picked in the first round.
Rao.
Because the Ponce, Mike Pouncy, is always
a first round gentleman.
Everybody needs a little kitty cat.
Everybody needs a big old sneaky cat.
I hope I go to the Detroit
Lion.
Myon.
Four more players from the Florida Gators would be picked before Hernandez.
Many of them, not without their own issues, including DUIs and one linebacker, Brandon Spikes,
that served a suspension for trying to rip out another player's eyes.
Honestly, I think it's a plus.
Yeah, man, you mess with Brandon.
Yeah, don't fuck with Spikes.
Yeah, don't fuck with him.
My God, those linebackers.
That's funny.
And he's trying to rip out of teammates' eyes?
Of opposing player.
Oh, see, again, that's a problem.
Yeah, that is a pro, yeah.
Finally, during the fourth round on the last day of the draft, with the 113th pick,
the bitch-ass New England Patriots, Robert Kraft, and Bill Belichick picked Aaron Hernandez.
Excited as he was to be playing for his favorite childhood team, he did not take it well getting picked so low.
He had only one failed drug test on record, but rumors said that he had failed six and UF covered it up.
Bill Belichick, evil gross fucker that he is, knew how to manipulate the NFL draft.
Tom Brady was a sixth round pick a couple years earlier, and in the second round of the same
draft, the Patriots selected Rob Garnkowski, who just retired as one of the greatest
tight ends of all time.
Not just that, Belichick was also known for turning troubled players and his successful
winners at the Patriots.
He had done so with players like Randy Moss and Brian Cox.
They even drafted the eyeball
Popper branded spikes.
So this should have been the best case
scenario for Aaron Hernandez.
I'm starting to think that there's something wrong
with Bill Belichin.
Realize like all these guys are
essentially criminals.
Yeah, it's like the Patriots are like
13 ghosts.
He's like pulling together all the things.
And I specifically choose the murderers.
Now, that's the Oakland Raiders.
Yeah.
A real team with real men.
Playing real ball.
I guess the Las Vegas Raiders now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll always be Oakland to me.
They were in Los Angeles for a long time as well.
Yeah.
Either way, fuck Al Davis.
There you go.
But joining the New England Patriots might have been one of Aaron's sliding door moments as well.
And many believe if Hernandez had been drafted by any other team, he may not have ended up becoming a murderer.
You see, the New England Patriots play in Foxborough, Massachusetts.
Just a two and a half hour drive from Bristol,
Connecticut, the home of all of Aaron Hernandez's criminal friends.
So with a $200,000 signing bonus in his pocket, Aaron Hernandez is moving back to where his
troubled pass had begun.
He hired two buddies with criminal pass as his assistants, and one of them was his weed
dealer, so that's convenient.
That is called a promotion.
That is an assistant.
He is assisting him in getting weed.
Yes, absolutely.
His life back home in Bristol was no treat.
his mom had married his cousin
Tanya's ex-husband Jeff Cummings
Aaron had refused to go to the wedding
he did not approve of the union
he hated the man his mom had been
publicly cheating on his dad with
and the fact that he was now living at his
old home really pissed him off as well
also it's fair to say that
Cummings was a total fuckhead himself
he had a rap sheet that including
hitting women and children
one night just one month
before Aaron was due to report to the Patriots
he got drunk and slashed
Aaron's mom's in the face
and with a butcher knife.
She was...
That's Jeff, that's Cummings.
Cummings did this. Yes, Jeff Cummings
slashed Terry Hernandez
in the face with a butcher knife.
She was able to escape to a neighbor
and called 911 and he was found
in the backyard and the cops took him to jail.
Not the best welcome home for Erie.
They're all just drama monsters.
Yes. Yes, they are.
But I don't know if I agree
with the
with the assumption that
if he would have been drafted
to any other team he would never have killed
anyone. I just think it would have taken longer.
Yeah. I think he would have eventually because
he would have found a network of shitheads.
Well, I think just the stories that they tell
and like the emotional dysregulation
that he had and how bad the CTE was
and how much he would just fucking flip.
Yeah. Like if he would have been drafted
to another team, maybe, maybe not
but the possibility was always
still there. Yeah. It's not like he was
well behaved in Florida. No, it was not.
And those guys weren't around when he was in Florida
for the most part. They were there sometimes,
But, you know, they weren't there when he fucking popped that guy's eardrum.
They weren't there when he allegedly fired a gun into those other two guys' car.
Like, he was cruising for a bruise.
Yeah.
When he was, when he popped the dude's eardrum, he was with a tennis player and the most religious man in football.
Exactly.
That's true, but never forget the Meninas brothers, also tennis players.
Oh, wow.
Cute.
When Hernandez joined the Patriots, he was an emotional disaster.
during his first week he almost fought Wes Welker
Wellker well
I love Wes Walker too
He played a he played a Texas Tech when I was there
Oh yeah it was a great he was a great dolphin
Yeah then you was
He was like the only guy who like returned a kick return for a touchdown
punted the ball
Returned a punt and made a tackle in the same game
Yeah he's a great record
He was incredible to watch in in college
And he was actually a nice guy from what I hear
Yeah well well well
That's nice
I'm out of my depth
But you know why also?
I think the other thing, too, West Welker, not a big guy.
No, he was a tiny dude.
He was a route runner.
Yeah, it was really quick cuts.
Yeah, and there's something about, like, the bigger guys.
Like, the guy that I talked about earlier that everyone hated, he was gigantic.
That's why he was massive.
The smaller guys, nicer.
Always.
Well, the reason he tried to fight Welker is because Welker wouldn't help him figure out a weightlifting machine.
Welker just giving the rookie a hard time, said figure it out for yourself.
Other than that incident, though, he was often.
referred to as a sweet guy. They called him Chico. He's a buddy around. And then he would, but the thing
was, he would openly cry when he made mistakes or he was ridiculed. It's not normal locker
room behavior. But it is normal ADHD behavior. The over, the oversensitivity. His is just out of
control in every way. Yeah. There was one reporter who had a good relationship with Aaron Hernandez.
He and Hernandez developed a relationship early on. Hernandez, you know, always available
to be interviewed. He was a rookie, you know, and
Hernandez wasn't popular yet, and
he was always available for an interview. And one day
he told the reporter, I like you, but if you ever
fuck me over, I'll kill you.
Seemed out of nowhere, but the statement stuck with the
reporter for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, we talked last... He's a huge man.
Yeah, we talked last week about the, like, the Kentucky
vampire kids who, like, would always talk about
they would kill this person or kill that person. It's like, don't take
him seriously.
We're 95 pounds soaking wet.
Take this guy seriously.
This is a guy that, like, should not be throwing around, like, you know, I'll fucking kill you.
I'm going to kill you.
Yeah, like, he is not fucking around.
You know, sometimes I look at my hand that I just wonder, my hat's going to kill the day.
He was always smiling.
Yeah, that's why I'm doing it like this.
You don't try to fuck with me.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's always like, that's crazy.
You're crazy.
Wow, yeah.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Yeah, he would get very, very angry, though.
And, yeah, just fucking, just the way he would say, I'll kill you.
And there was also, like, one of his other friends.
I bet you he came loudly.
Yeah.
One of his other friends said that if Aaron Hernandez said that he was going to do something,
whether it was big or small, if he said that he was going to do it, he was going to do it.
Yeah.
Like, that was like a part of his character.
Yeah, he was a, definitely follow through.
Yeah.
The 2011 season, Rob Grunkowski and Aaron Hernandez were on.
unstoppable as a tight-end duo.
Even as rookies, they were both
top five tight-ends in the league
and combined for more yards and
touchdowns than any other tight-end duo
in NFL history. And the
two of them had a great relationship.
Belichick had figured out
something no other team had before.
These two were unstoppable
together. The AFC championship
game that year was against Tim
Tebow in the Denver Broncos.
Tim Tebow was all John 316ed
out. I hate him. I hate him.
The previous week, he wrote John 316 on his eye black and coincidentally threw for 316 yards, averaging 31.6 yards per completion, through 16 passes in the first three quarters, accused rapist, two-time accused rapist, Ben Rafflesberger, threw an interception on 3rd and 16, and the ratings for the game were 31.6 million viewers.
John 316 was all anyone could ever talk about.
Even God thought it was a little on the nose.
It didn't matter, though.
The Patriots kicked the shit out of them the following week, 45 to 10.
God isn't real.
Yeah, killing God.
The Patriots did good.
The Patriots were headed back to the Super Bowl.
But in the fourth quarter, Aaron Hernandez had to leave the game with a head injury.
But you know that shit wasn't going to stop him from playing in the Super Bowl in two weeks.
weeks. I mean, playing with head injuries. I mean, this is a guy that's about to play the Super
Bowl. When I was in fucking high school, I was like a sophomore, my buddy, a friend of mine
got hit in the head so hard during a game that he was wandering the sidelines yelling,
Ball State wants me! They want me! And the coach just told him like, hey, Gary, yo, calm down,
just it'd be okay. And then after about, I don't know, a couple of possessions, he fucking
shook his head and went right back into the game.
Wow. And he was
hallucinating on the sidelines.
I wonder how he's doing.
You know,
I don't know. I'm actually
not sure. I haven't talked to him in a very long time.
I don't know how he's doing these days.
It's good you got off Facebook.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
I don't know how he's doing. I hope he's doing well.
He was a close friend when I was a kid.
But yeah, he was, that was
a high school football game. It wasn't even
a district game. Yeah.
Like, this was just like, this was before the district games even came, and he got back into the game after a hallucinatory concussion.
Dude, I dislocated my shoulder and popped it and went back in and did a long snap.
You just did that shit because you thought that's what you had to do.
Oh, that was what they told you.
That's what they fed that that's, yeah, that's what you do to show commitment.
No, when I broke my leg, I walked, it was there in practice, I walked all the way back to the field house because I didn't want the coat.
I didn't want to ride in the coach's truck and be seen as a pussy.
and then I took a shower
I drove myself to
you know my parents' job and walked in and said
I need to go to the hospital right now
but the whole time
and that's not even playing
that wasn't even playing football
that was like just like not being
want to be seen as a pussy during practice
oh yes and think about the fucking
you know the pressure of playing in the Super Bowl
yeah I know it's fucking nuts
so Super Bowl Sunday
during Kelly Clarkson's national anthem
the cameras turned to air
Hernandez. He stood there, visibly lost in thought, swaying with his mouth agape.
Aaron Hernandez scored a Super Bowl touchdown in the third quarter, but ultimately was
unable to catch the last second Hail Mary and the Patriots lost their second Super Bowl to
Eli Manning and the Giants. Yeah. Yeah. During this offseason, Aaron Hernandez's life
would take a turn for certain disaster. And it's with that that we pick up back next week
when we discuss Aaron Hernandez
and killing a bunch of people.
Eddie, great job.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
Yeah, it's intense, man.
Yeah.
I've tried to fill it with jokes,
but it just made me so sad.
It's my job.
Yeah.
It's a very sad story.
Like, you know, like in so many ways,
like Aaron Hernandez is a shithead.
In so many ways you made other people's lives miserable.
But in so many other ways,
know you hear people talk about him like he was a nice guy he was nice to be around you know like he
was a like his well like for and he it's what's so strange is like there's like his wife or i guess
fiance at the time but like never said anything about any kind of domestic abuse like he was
apparently like you know there for his kids like he was a good friend but also just this
violence there's just living underneath at all times you know and just this idea that he has an
entire system, a national system, set up to protect him and to keep him from seeing any
sort of consequences for any action that he does. And it doesn't matter who you are or what
you do. If a human being does not face consequences for their actions, they're going to be
a bad person. They're going to do bad shit. It just fucking happens. Yeah, look at Lawrence Taylor's
now on the fitness, the new fitness board for the White House. Yeah, so is, so was Tua.
Lawrence Taylor, the former crack cocaine addict
who also slept to the 14-year-old girl?
15, Marcus.
15?
Yeah, he was a sex worker that he bought,
and he said the only reason he bought an underage sex worker
was because he couldn't turn down how cheap it was.
And he's always more of a deal on her.
And he's working for the White House now.
Yes.
He was my favorite football player growing up.
No, I loved LT.
Did I show you?
I said it to Eddie. He made his speech
and he said, I don't know why I'm here
and I don't know what we're doing,
but I'm happy. And then Trump
literally was like, isn't he great?
Jesus.
The country currently has CTE.
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Eddie, honestly, such a good job. And next week we're going to get
even deeper into it. Great job. At LPion, on the
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man
let's go
let's go bang our heads together
I want to get
I want to get my brains
pushing up
but then how getting it
and I'm going to hail
today is
I'm going to let the cat out of the bag
today is
August 18th
it's Brody Stevens day
so hail Brody Stevens
another great athlete
we lost too soon
yeah that's very nice
yeah I love my boy
I miss it
all right guys
goodbye
Thank you.
