Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 638: Heinrich Himmler Part II - The Reich Stuff
Episode Date: October 10, 2025This week, the boys pick back up with Heinrich Himmler just after Hitler’s failed Beer Hall Putsch, as the Nazi's most pathetic nerd stumbles through his failed-loser era. From chicken farming and o...ccult rabbit holes to his first taste of Nazi bureaucracy, we trace how a sulking Mein Kampf fanboy became one of history's deadliest men. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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there's no place to escape to this is the last hot task on the left
that's when the cannibalism started
what was that
today's episode I want to dedicate to the Saudi Arabian royalty
and I want to dedicate to them because we've been working so hard
And I just want to make them laugh so bad.
So do I.
And I feel like this series.
I want to make all 12 people in that audience laugh.
No, no.
There was like several thousand.
They were put there.
They were placed there at gunpoint.
But these guys, like, what's nice is that, like, this, maybe if we show them this series.
Yeah.
They'll like, I don't know.
To honor the Saudi Arabians, I just destroyed a bunch of solar panels.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Normally, that's actually really good idea.
I do plan to spray some gasoline on the street later on.
Welcome to the last podcast on the left.
My name is Marcus Parks.
I'm here with the highly ambitious Henry Zabrowski.
Very ambitious.
Invite me, Royal Family.
I can't wait to dance in a cage for you.
I would say the equally ambitious Ed Larson.
Yes, Arabian Nights.
I'm ready for you.
Yeah.
Before we begin today, Marcus, I wanted to pitch this thing.
thing at you. Please.
Which is a thought I've been having.
We've been watching hours and hours and hours of Nazi footage.
Do you want to get slaves?
Deep into it.
No, no.
Honestly, what a hassle.
I don't even know what to tell her employees to do.
Yeah.
Now, but I was thinking about this, about how I feel like a lot of all of this could have
been stopped by one well-placed older black woman named Hermler that could be insinuated
in these various circumstances and just say
like, oh, no.
Like, to the Nazis.
And I think that if there was a
withering look of an, I think the
withered look of an older black
woman at Hemler's going like,
have you ever had colored greens?
Like, at him. And he would just be like,
I have never tried something's
most beautiful, delicious foods
in all of my lives. So you thought
about it, but not very hard.
No, I mean, no. Just drop her
in there. I've been playing Hermler
Every single time I watch one of these documentaries, I just go, oh, child.
Every single time, Himmler says something.
I go, no, no, no.
But by the end there, he didn't have any hair for her to run her fingers through or anything, you know, so it might not have worked on him.
Himmler does not exist in a world that contains biscuits and gravy.
Yeah, no, the gravy you can't have.
The biscuits you could have.
Soul food changes Nazi Germany.
All right.
It's the worst take I've ever heard
But let's move on
Hey, why don't we just keep rolling
With that Himmler goodness
So when we last left Heinrich Himmler
The year was 1924
Oh, so nice
Yeah, 1924 seems like a fun year
Adolf Hitler's attempted coup
To take control of the Bavarian government
With 3,000 of the Nazis had failed
And as a result, Hitler had been sentenced
To a meager sentence of five years in jail
and Germany's Viamar Republic
had explicitly banned
the Nazi party. Oh, they were cancelled.
Yes. Now, after the failed
Putsch, Heinrich Kempler's
life was at its lowest point
thus far. His supposed destiny
of becoming a military officer
fighting for Germany's glory
seemed as if it would not come to pass
because Germany would never return
to its former military dominance
as long as the Viamal Republic
was the law of the land.
And of course, if there was no military,
to clear away the so-called undesirables of Eastern Europe,
than Himmler's dreams of being a warrior-farmer settler in a faraway land,
a fantasy inspired by various extreme right-wing Volkish writers,
that would not come to pass either.
As it was, Himmler was just another unemployed Weimar Germany goon
in his mid-20s that nobody would hire
because he was a hateful person with demonstrable and public connections
to odorous organizations,
organizations who are already responsible
for the deaths of hundreds of people
through gang violence.
What a bunch of pushies.
That's funny.
It's one of the few German words
that I just can't say for some reason.
Pooch!
Pooch! Pooch! Pooch!
But, you know, it's just hard because he's organized.
Doesn't that mean anything?
I...
Yeah, it does.
Doesn't that mean anything in this fucking country?
Of course I think I fucking love paperwork.
No, it's true.
You know what also I realized?
about the Volkish movement
that I forgot about
was all the nudism.
Yeah.
They were super...
They loved it.
All the Volkish writers
a part of it
would be getting back
to the country
or getting back
because all this
pastoral view
of the former
Germanic lifestyle.
A lot of it involved
sun rituals
which was like
getting naked
and showing your
butthole
not even
this is not even a joke
showing your
butthole to the sun
as like a part
of a magical reason
and like
that's all they were doing.
So he's
was just flipping through magazines of fat men dick out and canoes just like being like
that's the life you know but have you tried it no i mean i haven't i don't i don't want to
get splinters and you know and that's stuff like it's weird how these things these little
things show up again and again throughout like the nazi rain like in certain parts of their
propaganda like you know lini riefenstall triumph of the will uh that she you know trying for the
will was her massive propaganda film about the nuremberg rowlies but she also
also did a film about the 1936 Olympics, was it 36, called like Olympia or Olympiad or something
like that. And it's just full of these like nudes of German men, German women. Actually,
she herself appears nude in the movie. But yeah, it's all about this. Oh, I know I jerked off
to it.
Henry Zabraski going on record saying I've masturbated Delaney Reefingstall.
It was an experiment I was researching for the show.
Jerkinov is also in the movie as well
Oh yeah
Now even though the Nazi party
Was explicitly banned from participating in German politics
Himmler continued working for them
By acting as a courier between Nazi members
Yeah he became like a fucking a PA
Yeah
Himmler also fell deeper into the aforementioned
Volkish movement
Who held a lot of power in the local Bavarian government
As a member of the Volkish street team so to speak
Himmler gave public speeches in which he preached the movement's ethno-nationalist beliefs
and he openly pontificated in the foulest ways possible
about the so-called Jewish question.
But because he was unemployed, Himmler was forced to move back in with his parents in Munich.
Which honestly happens a lot after public speeches is about the Jewish question.
I thought the Jewish question was, are you going to finish that?
Yeah.
Yeah. And the answer is, of course, I am.
Where can I get a good nash?
That's the Jewish question.
Have you met my son Isaac?
You didn't keep the receipt?
Again, we must say Edward is Jewish.
He's allowed, and we're all hardest.
Well, after he moved in with his parents, he joined a small Nazi group in Lower Bavaria
that was, for lack of a better term, keeping the dream alive while Hitler was in jail.
isolated and humiliated, Himmler fell into a paranoid depression, believing that people were
opening his mail. He became increasingly arrogant and irritated at the entire world,
convinced that he was the only person who knew the quote-unquote right way of doing things.
Bored and angry, Himmler began sticking his nose into the affairs of others without invitation.
This, of course, only further ostracized him from polite society, which pushed Himler more
and more to the arms of his fellow
socially inept Nazi buddies who had
many of the same complaints about how the
world worked as Himmler. You know what these guys
needed? PewDie Pied.
This is a big thing. I feel like
Nazis, another thing that really could
have. I don't know where it would have taken them, but
they would have loved YouTube. Yeah. Oh,
my God. They would have loved
YouTube. I mean, the I see that
the parallels, we'll get into it here in a bit, but the
parallels between the rabbit
holes that Heinrich Kimler fell down
and the rabbit holes that people today
day fall down.
Anders Breivik.
It's the same fucking shit.
It's the same ideas.
It's just delivered in a different medium.
And that's the thing.
While we think about Himmler or some sort of like mastermind from the very
beginning, he actually joined the Nazi party from pretty much the same station as many of
the other early members.
Started from the bottom now we're here.
Start it from the bottom now so all the Nazis are here.
I think I did that in the last time with this.
I think he did.
I think it's same joke.
I think that's when that song was new.
Yes.
It's offensive because Drake is Jewish.
He's a lot of other things.
Well, Himmler, like many early Nazis,
was a young man who couldn't find work,
which is a legitimate complaint that really does affect
one's quality of life and one's self-esteem.
But the special sauce that made these young men into Nazis
is that they chose a path
where someone had to be blamed
and someone had to be hated for their lot in life.
So when a movement is founded on hate and blame,
it becomes baked into every decision that movement makes.
Furthermore, the hate becomes exponentially larger and more intense as time goes on.
Basically, this is how we get from, hey, why is that brown person using food stamps when
they have an iPhone to alligator alcatraz?
Oh, man, I fucking hate the term alligator alcatraz.
It's too cool.
It's the Everglades camp.
I know you have to like tell people like, you know, so they understand.
But like alligator, it's like if they're selling t-shirts of it and go fuck itself.
It doesn't matter.
it's an empty fucking swamp right now
that they just get...
Oh, they're filling it back up, bro.
Don't worry about it.
Oh, I know.
Yeah.
It's so...
I mean, it's not like Himmler
was selling dockout shirts.
Hey, I'd be...
But hey, he's definitely left money on the table.
Nazis love merch.
They don't even deny.
They do.
Nazis love merch.
Merch is one of those things that...
This is one of the...
When we talk about occultism, too,
later on in this episode, this is like...
It sounds like a bit.
But the idea of...
creating a group
iconography is so
powerful. Yes. And it's hard
to describe how powerful it is
because you don't really
those of us that are not in that
don't understand it. Also, like
the overhead on our bands is very low.
Super low. You can make a lot of money
on those. Yes. Tell me about it.
Honestly, Rob,
write it down, L-P-O-T-L-B-A-L-Benz.
Yeah, we need some pentagram
arm bands. If we could, thank you so
much. Yes.
Even though Heinrich Kimler was in his loser era, he did briefly become engaged to the daughter of a banker while he was still living with his parents.
The relationship, however, inevitably crumbled because of Heinrich Kimler's entirely unreasonable and strict rules for proper living, which sounds like the world's worst self-help book.
Come to my signings this Saturday for Heinrich Kimlitz entirely unreasonable and strict rules for proper living.
Excellent. I'm an unreasonable person, and I hate living without rules.
Then you must come
And me and have fun
Rule me, thank you.
How many rules do you have to have
To chase away a banker?
Banker's daughter.
Supple, big-titted bankals,
Banker's daughter, you know how they make them.
Old money bags.
Yeah.
They fucking make those old girls.
Well, Himmler placed all the blame
for the relationship's failure
on his fiancé
because she was apparently
too friendly towards another man.
Himmler declared that she had, in his words,
failed the test
You're the weakest link
Making the matter even more embarrassing
Is that Himmler was too chicken shit
To break off the engagement himself
Instead Himmler had his father
Write a letter to his fiancée's parents
Telling them to tell her
That the engagement was off
And you make sure that you put in the answer
I think that she was rude
And crude and lewd
And I just
Oh I hate her dead
Daddy, I hate the fairer sex.
Why don't they always lie to us, Dedims?
But even after a Himmler broke it off, he still couldn't let it go.
He was determined to find damaging material that would further prove his point that she was unsuitable.
So he actually hired a private detective to follow his now ex-fiancee.
The PI, of course, found nothing.
But when word got out that Himmler was harassing this poor woman,
it only served to ostracize him further from normal society.
Himmler, of course, blamed this further isolation on his ex-fiance,
because it seems like the central personality trait of a fascist
is to blame everyone but yourself for your problems.
Well, because, you know, why?
If you're the problem, that means you got to fix you.
No.
And the thing is, is that it's super hard,
but it's much easier to just attack people, randomly.
It's so much easier to just attack and attack and attack and attack.
Yeah, just give into the anger and let that take you away.
He's got to not feel anything.
As long as you don't have any feelings, then it's actually a great way to live,
and it always works because nobody wants to deal with you.
And so a lot of times, they just push you along, and a lot more than often, push you up.
Yeah, get out of here.
But for Hemler, he would have to get someone to attack for him,
because he would probably lose the fight to the woman.
Oh, yes.
Oh, a woman would have beat him to death.
Yes.
And so, what's an unemployed loser who lives with this parent to do after a relationship goes bad?
Well, like many others, Heinrich Himmler dove down twin rabbit holes that are still warping the brains of young men today.
He, of course, tripled down on the right-wing extremist ideology, but he alternated the anti-Semitic and highly nationalist dogma being spewed by so many Germans at the time with what else but the occult.
In short order, Himmler began saturating himself with books about astrology, hypnosis, spiritualism, and telepathy amongst other topics.
Now, Hamler's occult obsessions
are an interesting wrinkle in the Nazi
story. Some historians
have made the occult Nazi angle the focus
of everything. Oh, yeah, because that's interesting.
Oh, yeah. It's Indiana Jones. Oh, of course.
No, well, it's how you sell books. It's like,
if you say the motivations for the founding of the party
to the military decisions Hitler made
during World War II, if you say all of that
was because they were doing rituals
and castles, and it was all this secret
that it makes for a very cool story.
Yeah, with the spear of destiny and all that.
Trevor Ravens.
Kroft was the big guy
who was into it. But I actually
find that a very interesting smokescreen
for why they did what they did.
I feel like, well, talk about it here too.
Because you say, look, it's true. Then some people just don't
talk about it at all. Yeah. Others
treat it as if even
mentioning the occult is going to
lose them any and all credibility.
Well, it makes you not, quote, not serious.
Yes, it makes you not serious. So they ignore
the occult angle completely. They claim
that it had nothing to do
with Nazi Germany. But the truth,
is of course somewhere in between, because while Adolf Hitler may not have been on the quest
for the spear of destiny, many of Heinrich Kemler's decisions and beliefs were informed
by his occult studies. It's not even just his decisions and beliefs. It's literally what he realized
you needed to build. This is universe building. This is about universe. It's world building.
The whole point of this is to create a body of work that stands behind
Nazism, that appears to be outside of
Nazism, that happens to validate what's inside of
Nazism. And then you use that as a line from the beginning
of your new culture, because Germany at the time is a new
coalescing, like, national culture. Yeah. And you're trying to find out
what's the vibe. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, what's the vibe? So a bunch
of guys that are in there at the very beginning of this are all talking about, what's the
vibe here? What are we doing here? What are we doing? We're going to be, we're nomadic
warriors. Germanic people were hunted
back and forth by the Christian state.
Right? Like, they were literally the entire
Holy Roman Empire after the fact.
Like, just fuck them up again
and again and again. They suck our cities.
Yes. They hate Christianity.
They deeply, deeply
hate Christianity, but they still know you
need something with that kind
of skeletal frame that needs
to be there for people to believe in you.
So they wanted to believe in, they wanted to do
Himmler started to understand, we have to
create something that is
our Christianity. Yeah. And he's not just creating it for other people to believe in. He's
creating it for himself to believe in. And for the country to believe in. Yeah. But the important
thing to know about Himmler's so-called occult studies is that he wasn't like studying right-hand
path magic and performing rituals to summon entities like Alistair Crowley or Jack Parsons,
which I think is where everyone's mind goes when they hear the word occult. Instead,
Himmler's occult studies were more in the realm of pseudo-history and pseudoscience, put in a
modern terms, Himmler would have been far more interested in watching fucking ancient aliens
and following influencers who have wild, vague theories about mysterious energies than he would
in doing anything practical.
Like, he wouldn't join a Wiccan study group at a local occult bookstore.
For example.
No, because honestly, because a lot of times they'll celebrate Hanukkah.
You know what I mean?
They do a lot of stuff.
Wiccans, it's always like a, oh, we celebrate, you know, they always teach everybody, everything.
He's, I mean, he's on the very dark side of this stuff, you know?
It's not, it's not, well, we'll talk.
Give me my time.
Yeah, it's like the ancient alien stuff.
It's, you know, the complaint about the ancient alien stuff has always been.
It's deeply racist.
It's deeply racist because it's saying like, well, these people couldn't possibly have done this on their own.
Yeah.
And you don't realize that you could, if you throw thousands of artisans and artisan slaves at something and you don't have any sort of like workers' rights or any form of like kind of unions or anything like that in that way, then it's much easier to build those giant things.
They also had thousands of years to do it.
Yeah, they'll very long time to do it.
And also, it's not like they needed to go home and, like, catch the latest episode of 90-day fiancé.
Oh, though.
God, I wish they had.
I wish they had that.
90-day, 90-day!
Calm down!
Come down!
But even so, with Hamler, it's not like he would watch ancient aliens and think it's aliens.
He would watch ancient aliens and think, oh, that's white people that did that.
For example, Himmler was absolutely obsessed with the Great Pyramid of Egypt because he believed that it contained all forms of occult knowledge from various ancient civilizations, civilizations that were all begun by the Aryan race.
Basically, Himmler believed that the proof for all of his wacky theories about Aryan domination, these were always just out of reach.
They were always in the next place.
Well, yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, and if he could just read enough books and eventually investigate enough local.
locations. He would finally discover that secret that's out there somewhere that would finally
confirm all of his beliefs. Dude, it's so Indiana Jones. It is. Oh, yeah, but I love how much,
because he did his homework. Another thing I noticed, like, is such a nerd side thing, but, like,
Ravens Cross, the guy who, like, did the Spear of Destiny thing, that's supposed to be Marion's
father. No shit. She's Marion's Ravenswood. And so, like, and that's why he's looking for the
Spirit of Destiny and stuff like that. So, like, it's like, they just changed the end of
the name a little bit.
Oh, my God.
Fascinating.
Because, no, but that's true, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it works because it gives them
extra juz, it gives them an extra edge, it gives them something to be frightened of.
If the Nazis are powered by ancient unrecognizable German gods, then you can't beat them.
Right?
That's the idea.
Yeah.
Now, Hamler was certainly not alone in his beliefs that the Aryan race had created all of civilization.
In fact, spirituality in general was incredibly confused and confusing in Germany during the mid to late 1920s.
See, one of the interesting things about German and Nordic people when it comes to Christianity
is that a lot of them never quite bought into the religion in the way that, say, the Italians or the English did.
Like, you never heard of it.
Like, have you ever heard of it, like, oh, I'm German Catholic that doesn't fucking exist.
And all you have to do is you want to see how the Nordic people never quite gotten to Christianity,
Look at the fucking murderous Norwegian black metal scene in the early 90s.
That's what all that was about, burning down churches in order to bring back the Nordic gods.
And they got a lot of followers.
All they remembered about Christianity is how you fucking chased us around the woods for hundreds of years.
Yeah, and drowned us and all that.
But the reason why Christianity never fully caught on is because the Germanic people hadn't quite let go of their pagan roots.
They once had a whole pantheon of powerful gods.
And many Germans saw their medieval ancestors.
is almost godlike themselves.
They talked to their ancestors.
They were close with their ancestors,
and they viewed that as their own,
like families almost had
their own personal religiosity.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Where it was like almost like
your line was way more important
than an exterior god or heaven.
Very much so.
So when writers like Alfred Rosenberg
of the aforementioned Tula Society
began releasing books that rewrote history
from an exclusively white person perspective,
a lot of Germans like Heinrich Kimler
saw it as a lot of.
confirmation of what they already secretly suspected, and they therefore added these claims
to their own view of the universe.
It's all creating things that look like they're accidentally there.
It's like this idea that it was always validated.
Yep.
Now, in his bestselling book, the myth of the 20th century, Alfred Rosenberg claimed that the origins
of Christianity were simply a philosophical interpretation of the eternal laws of the Aryans.
Those laws predated all other religions.
wrote those laws then?
The Aryans.
But before them?
I don't know.
Who did it before?
What happened to?
The arians were the first.
The Aryans were the first.
They had to.
Someone had to be the first, and this guy said the Aryans were the first.
So I'm just asking questions.
By Rosenberg's reading of history, Jesus was either Syrian or Roman.
Anything but Jewish.
Yeah, no way he ever said that or anything.
Being a rabbi or anything.
But that didn't really even matter because every bit of Christian dogma had been stolen.
stolen from Eastern religions anyway, and melded with evil black magic.
But besides the pseudo-history, Rosenberg also suffused his book with philosophy.
He only reinforced Heinrich Kimler's ideas that humanism was a dead end,
preaching that life was nothing more than an internal battle between the manly honor of a knight
and the effeminate weakness of love.
Well, I ain't heard no lies yet.
Oh, that fucking shit hit, dog.
Yeah, Henry.
Oh, I know how that fucking dog waltz.
That's you all over.
Gallantry, knighthood.
Constantly fighting.
The two wolves in me is that the knight that fights for honor and the evil, wicked poet that yearns for love.
Fucking stupid ass love.
Hit that guy.
I want to fight.
Live from your grave.
But while Himmler was immersing himself in books about occult pseudo-history at his parents' house.
Shut up.
I'm trying to read.
Mom, you're listening to the clock and spiel too loud.
Do you know that we come from the ancient gods of the Orient?
Not going to be able to figure out where Atlantis is.
It's a cocoa clock that's going off every ten hours.
Heinrich, I just want to say, we are so happy to have you home,
and it's been so wonderful, but we do wish me and your father wish that you would go get a job.
For you would maybe make some fronts.
I do have a job, Mom.
I'm a researcher.
I know that you're very important, very important.
But if you could do something that was real,
you know, right now you're starting to look like the potato salad.
So far as when I realized, you look like a prairie dog covered in shit.
I'm going to send my mothers to the concentration.
I'm going to send my mother's one and that's the one.
Well, while he was doing all that,
Adolf Hitler was in jail
writing a book of his own,
a book that would incorporate
many of the same ideas,
but in a far subtler way.
I can see him
writing loudly.
Yeah, he's yelling while he writes.
It was written in all caps.
Well, mine calm, technically,
there was a rumor for many years
that he would dictate it
and someone would write it.
But now we're like, no, no, no.
He wrote it himself.
See, after the coup, Hitler wasn't sent
to prison for five years, so much
as he was held in a building for nine
months. Jeffrey Epstein.
The cushy treatment he received
from Nazi sympathizers
enabled him to write the foundational text
of Nazism, the infamous
Mind Kompth, or in English,
My Struggles. My Struggles.
Oh, no,
I was trying to get out of the bath,
but I'm too slippery for Mommy's
soap. Another one of
my struggles. It's a regular
Adolf Mandela.
Oh, I was trying to put my pants on earlier, but my hands are numb.
I guess it was because my shirt's too tight.
Another struggle of mine.
They took away my second pillow.
Actually, you know what I have learned, too?
Mine, cumf.
Kumpf.
Like that?
Yep.
Oh, that sounds like a silencer.
It is.
Now, my struggle is an incredibly whiny title.
My struggle.
Every time I had a problem
shitting, I'm like, my strong.
I didn't drink enough water yesterday,
and now my poop's too hard and big.
My struggle.
But it's far better
than what Hitler originally wanted to call it.
He wanted to call it,
during half-year-calf-year-camp
against Luger, doom height, and zekeye.
Which is,
Four and a half years of struggle against lies, stupidity, and cowardice.
Not a snappy title.
Okay, yeah, it's like fucking whatever.
Hitler's publisher, however, a Nazi named Max Amon.
Think about that.
He had a fucking publisher and an editor.
They're all like, oh, Hitler, you know, like having to deal with him?
This guy, he also operated as the Nazi's first business manager.
He's also the guy that's telling Hiller's like,
really the overhead on armbands is a little higher than you think of it.
Think about it.
Do we really need two custom Mercedes?
What if we just made it one-ass?
Think about how much we'll say.
Think about how much we'll say.
That's just one rude.
That's one rude.
You have a...
The rude market's insane right now.
Well, he talked Hitler into the much-snapier title that we know today, Mind Comph.
And, of course, one of the people who absolutely adored Mind Compt...
My Kemp!
...was Heinrich Kimler.
But not because Hitler was saying anything new.
Personally, I think Kimmer loved it because it was proof that there were
Plenty of other people out there who thought exactly the same way that Himmler did.
He was just looking for the other ones.
Yeah.
And that was the thing.
We talked about this.
He's not inspired by Hitler.
He was already there.
Yes.
He was there long before.
I too also struggle.
Such that I like to hear.
I do not like things to be reasy.
I do not like things to be not a hassle.
It's just, you know, when you go through life with a head like this,
potato head. You just, you don't think
because the struggles, it's gone to be. The more you point out
to a potato like head, the more I realize
that the Aryan blood and you would spin.
The struggle was getting out of the
Liederhosen. Every time.
It's leather, dude. Have you ever been in real
Liederhosen? No, I haven't. I know you have.
They're hard to wear. They're heavy.
It's like being inside of
a boa constrictor.
They should be made for, they should be, honestly,
more giving. Because it's for big
gutted men and big titted women.
Mm-hmm.
Any other thoughts?
I don't know.
It's just my podcast.
Sounds like it's your struggle.
My struggle.
Even though the publisher of Mind Kumpf was a Nazi,
he had still expected a racy personal story from Hitler when he offered to publish his book.
That's the thing.
He literally thought, I love this breakdown.
He thought that Hitler was going to write a spicy insider's view of the
beer hall poached. Yeah. He thought
he was at the very least good addition. Like, what's the
inside story? How did it all go down? Tell me,
what were you wearing that night?
You know, like, stuff like that. They literally thought they was going to be
because they never thought that the Nazis
were going to come back. They thought it was over.
They thought that this whole thing was done. But I mean,
this guy was still a Nazi.
Like, he was a Nazi Nazi. But at this point,
they're still super uncomfortable with being the bad news
bears, right? They're super like, we, we are
underdogs, and we
like, everybody knows, everybody roots for the underdog.
And we are like that. We are, like that.
You know, we're a fun band of Rapscallions.
Yeah.
But Hitler did neither.
He didn't even mention the very thing he was in prison for doing, the thing that had made him infamous.
Instead, Monkopf is more about how Hitler used to be totally reasonable dude.
Oh, yeah.
Someone, you might even call him a liberal.
Whoa, yeah, you're that guy.
Hitler, when I first met him, I thought he was from San Francisco.
Oh, well, what happened?
The Jews.
Oh, it's that right.
fucking time we should never let them in San Francisco.
He ran afoul of the Zedews.
Covering a wide range of topics that nobody but other Nazis would find interesting,
Hitler ranted for nearly 800 pages about imagined Jewish and communist global conspiracies
along with the need to destroy France and the Soviet Union so Germany had room to grow.
Liebenzram!
Fucking 800 pages of horseshit.
800.
I've ever tried to read it.
No.
Why would I do that?
I have no reason to read my comic.
So you know what's funny is that I...
I got a feeling I know what's in there.
Dude, the centerfold?
Yeah.
Nice.
Ava Braun.
I'd read it.
Nipples out.
I'd read it because it got spoiled for me.
Yeah.
I have all the spoilers.
Now, Himmler, of course, loved all the shit about the global conspiracies in the Leibons round.
But the parts that really caught his attention
were all of Hitler's nods
to the pseudo-histories that Himmler was reading
about how ancient Aryans were responsible
for everything modern humankind enjoyed
and that all humanity forever lay in their debt.
But what's important about this
is that Hitler is not coming out
and saying this stuff so explicitly
and he's not going into all the theory.
He's just saying it.
He's just putting the ideas out there.
Because he doesn't really know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Hitler, we have to remember.
Hitler was well, he's reading the same books as Himmler.
And actually Himmler's like, it's like, what is Hitler's reading list?
I vaughn't that.
And he actually did get a copy of Hitler's reading list and he read all the same books
that Hitler did.
Was it on his Patreon?
Because we have ours and our Patreon.
Go to patreon.com slash last podcast and love.
And you can get your own mind comp reading list.
But no, not just that one.
But no, Hitler, I still feel like, again, it's why we're now realizing that Himmler is
the Nazi of all Nazis.
He is. He's top Nazi. There had to be one.
Even Hitler had an idea
of like, we got to set us this thing.
Yeah. We got to set us this thing.
There's whole things about presentation.
We can't immediately do this.
We're like, they know they can't do that.
Oh, yeah. And so he's just
kind of like the way
certain someone does where it just kind of says
that he's vaguely familiar with
because he knows it rings true with a bunch of people.
Yeah, you let other people pick it up.
And I fucking
I messed up
I feel bad that
Can you ask me if I've read MindConf again?
Yes have you read MindConf?
I struggle to get through it
You've been thinking about this
This whole fucking time
Didn't this do a goddamn mind
I can check back into the
To you now
Where are we in two
My struggles
Well the idea
That Hitler was putting forth
that Aryans were responsible for everything that modern humankind enjoyed.
This is exactly the same line of thinking used by certain right-wing commentators today.
The ones who maintain that white people built modern society.
It's the exact same myopic shit Hitler was spewing in 1925.
It's just dressed up in a more acceptable package.
Is it?
I actually don't think it is.
Well, I mean, acceptable enough.
I guess.
Do they have the part with the white people killing all the dinosaurs?
I wish.
And that wisdom
Fits as a dinosaur
But, you know, now that I think about it
It's this
rabbiosaurus
And I think about it
The unsircumcised
The penis
Of the devilic
Brontosaurus
Protasstein
You know, if there were dinosaurs
running around, we wouldn't get
anything done
You're right.
You're right.
I'd be chasing them.
No, another concept
that Himla loved in Mindcomp
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, was the idea of the Third Reich.
See, according to Hitler, the first so-called Reich was the medieval Holy Roman Empire,
which lasted from the year 800 until 1806.
That's a big-ass Reich.
It's the biggest Reich.
It's the biggest Reich.
Thus far.
That is like the idea of, like, that's where all the great guys came up.
Oh, I mean, this is where Frederick Barbarossa comes from.
This is also where, like, Richard Wagner, Hitler's favorite composer.
It's where he got a lot of his characters, like Parcival, the Knight, and the villain Klingzor,
who becomes a hero just by virtue of being a villain in a Wagner opera.
Am I not allowed to like Wagner anymore?
Oh, you didn't know this about Wagner?
Oh, my God.
You like Wagner specifically?
I'm a big fan of Poclips now.
Well, yeah, they got me into it.
No, listen.
Objectively, the music is incredible.
It's amazing.
It's classic music.
It's just know what it means.
He just tried it.
He was a super nationalist.
Ah.
He was a big old German nationalist, World War I style.
Massive anti-Semite.
Huge, huge, huge Hancy cinema.
All right, I'll have to sell my records back.
Yeah, I mean, no, I will say, I don't think that that's like, how do we put this?
This isn't like Woody Allen movies.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is a classical music of Wagner's style is a part of history, right?
Sure.
You'd put it, you just don't play it at a bar mitzvah.
Just don't play it at Hanukkah.
Don't play it at, you know, just it's Yom Kippur today.
All right, I'll take it off the list.
Yeah, honestly, yeah, that's the thing, is I was listening.
to this morning, and then I realized I heard the news
that it was Yom Kippur, so then I did switch it over.
Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good idea.
Yeah, switch it over. Don't even tell me anything about
Carl Orff.
Actually, I know nothing about him. Good.
So maybe we're fine.
All right. But, yeah, but Wagner,
yeah. Pretty iffy.
It's iffy. Yeah.
Okay. I can't believe you're a huge Wagner
fan. That's the surprise of the
episode. I used to be into
classical music and then I got out of it.
It's not that big of a surprise.
He likes music of all times.
That's the idea that he's like specifically said out loud into a camera.
He's like, Wagner's, there's problems with Wagner.
Which I've never even, I didn't even know.
Please don't say anything about it about Copeland.
I know nothing.
Good.
I know nothing.
Go ahead.
The second Reich was started in 1871 by Otto von Bismarck, who unified Germany into the country we know it as today.
And he became Germany's first chancellor.
This Reich was, in Hitler's view, disgustingly and dishonorably ended by the Weimar Republic and the Jews, which had erased Himmler's beloved aristocracy.
What Hitler was offering in my comp, however, was a Third Reich, a Reich that would last for one thousand years.
That is a very, very long time.
The Third Reich would do what else but make Germany great again.
And while Hitler never used that as a campaign slogan, he certainly used.
the phrase in quite a few
speeches. It is, in Goring
did? Definitely. Absolutely
did. Yeah, they did not, it was not an actual
it was not a slogan, but it was
used over and over and over again
in speeches. A good slogan would have been, when you're
right, you're right.
That's what, but they got rid of all the juice.
So they couldn't figure out who, no one could write that.
And so, but
it's true. Like that's, that, that was like
who, who? Yeah. Since a shiver
up my spine. Now, I think it is
extraordinarily important to note that the not
Nazis were not the only Germans who desired a return to the past. Many average Germans still held up Otto von Bismarck as an authoritarian hero because he ignored the law of other German states to do what he thought was best. They wanted a strong leader to come in and tell him what's what. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, author William Scherer argues that the ideals of democracy, the will of the people, and a parliamentary system of government, these never quite took hold in Germany with the Weimar Republic.
And, of course, because it never really took hold, it's a new, that's a, that was a new thing to them.
Yeah.
It made the Germans far more amenable to Hitler simply seizing power later on.
This, of course, is one of the major differences between then and now, because in America, these concepts of freedom are so ingrained in our DNA that I'm only just now waking up to the extent of how much we take them for granted.
This, however, is why I truly do believe that if a big power grab is ever made in this country, and I do mean big.
Oh, the big one.
It will not work.
Most Americans won't stand for it because that sort of shit
It tends to raise our hackles instinctively
I'm actually going to go ahead and say
As a moment I hope here
That after all the shit this administration just pulled
With ABC and Jimmy Kimmel
People I know personally who are a little on the fence about everything
They're finally starting to wake the fuck up
After 10 goddamn years
That's because they know they say a lot of fucked up shit too
And if they can't say their fuck
If we just start coming after him after
They all know that was pittily shit
That was what kid all said
He said nothing.
Nothing.
So they're like, oh, man, I say a lot worse stuff than that.
Yeah, buddy.
Yeah, buddy.
Those little jokes of yours are going to end up coming around biting you in the ass, and we'll see how it goes.
Yeah.
Now, after Heinrich Kemler read Mind Kampf, where all of his own beliefs and ideas were mirrored back to him so perfectly, he became fully convinced that the Aryans were the creators of human civilization, and therefore the only ones capable of keeping it going.
Now, I also wonder whether or not he believed it or if he understood that's the line.
He believed it.
Himmler, I, you know, in the end, he does, for me, he's, I'll always talk about this.
I always like the idea of how do they keep, how much of a foot in and how much a foot out?
These guys have, Himmler is standing fully within.
Himmler is a romantic.
Yes.
Hitler is far more of a cynic than Himmler is.
But Himmler also knows.
Even Gerbils is more of a cynic.
But what Himmler knows.
Not to mention Gore.
Yes.
History has to win.
Yeah.
History has to be written.
History has to come in.
So he also kind of, because he's a true believer, he understands that unless it becomes real, it never happened.
Yeah.
So he has to make it all real.
Well, here might be a good place, then, to talk about where the idea of Aryans actually came from.
Because it was not, as is often supposed, Madame Helena Blavatsky, the famous American occultist who first popularized the term.
See, if you made it through our series on HPB, and thank you,
very much if you did. You'll remember...
It was worth it. God, we worked so hard on that.
I read a quarter
of the secret doctrine.
You're making a deal when it's like fighting your
way through that horseshit?
It's not that secret if you put a book out. Exactly.
But if you made it through that series,
you'll remember that while Blavatsky certainly
had some foul racial beliefs,
she used the term Aryan to simply
classify the current iteration of mankind.
For her, Aryans weren't
better or worse. They were simply next.
They were the fifth iteration of
humanity out of six, if I remember correctly.
The key here is we can't entirely not blame HPB.
She did write it into the secret doctrine, but there were people that helped this.
Well, there were many other people who said, who talked about it long before she did,
and in far worse ways.
The secret doctrine was just this little idea.
She was trying to run her on grift.
Yeah.
HPB was the secret doctrine was her take on a world theory that she was trying to bring
forward. That was her proprietary
storyline. That she ripped off from the
Hindus. Exactly. That's what
grifters do. But the problem is other
grifters started to arise. So a part
of this Volkish movement, like when that really
started, there was a guy by the name of Guido
Von List. Yes, who was far more to blame
for the Aryan thing than HPB.
He's a funny looking guy. You've seen him?
Yeah. You remember that he looks like
kind of like Dr. John
slash the guy. He has like
a beret on. He wears a beret.
He looks like, what was that French chef?
Prudel.
He got it looks like Paul Prudol.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And he wrote the series of novels in his books attaching these thoughts, like this idea of within the secret doctrine, to this idea of naming Aryans.
And he plucked the Aryans out.
And he said, the way he, the bridge is, is that, yes, Aryans doesn't mean white necessarily or Germanic necessarily.
But the Germanic white people have the most Aryan blood.
within them.
So that's the bridge.
That's the jump-off point
that begins all of the rest
of the thought,
which is very interesting
because it just took one guy.
It's like, it's white people.
And everyone's like,
cool.
It's just basically
because they can handle the cold.
Maybe.
I mean, I do feel like
they always talk about that.
The problem is that then they always
bump up against this thing
of the main issue
with all of the greatest,
biggest works of humankind
is that they're all built
in these super hot places
by brown people.
And so they keep
having to figure out, well, what do we do about this? How do we get white people from here to
there? That's the biggest question. It's like, how do we make it where white people are the
sole proprietors of all humanity? And you know how he did that? Tied it to Tibet. Yep. Because
that's the thing is that Blavatsky, the only connection she has to the Nazis, is that
she's the reason why the Nazis later became obsessed with Tibet. If you'll remember, the swastika
is a Buddhist symbol. And Blavatsky claimed the Aryan race had its origins in East Asia. Yes.
So, since the Nazis took a piece of everything that even mentioned Aryans and added it to their own belief system, Blavatsky got lumped in with all of the purely repellent writers who used the term Aryan.
Those men were, of course, mostly homegrown white supremacists.
Also, they talked about this idea of which I think is funny, you know, that the idea that the original Asians were white.
Oh, yeah.
They became Asian somehow.
But the white people there first, they built everything, then became Asian.
And they got super lazy.
Understand, when you start breaking down the ideas granularly, that's what they amount to.
Always.
Is this how they were able to, like, rationalize, like, becoming allies with the Japanese?
Partly.
Oh, yeah, because, yeah, because literally, they are, they talk about, that used to be us.
Yeah, that's part of it.
Yeah.
And also, they just were fun guys and they got along real well.
And they really got along very well.
As far as origins go, the concept of Aryans as blue-eyed, blonde-haired Germans had been invented in the 1700s by two men with oddly similar names.
Johann Gottfried Herder and Johann Gottlieb Fichter.
Very Jewish names.
Every Gottfried and Gottlieb I've ever met is extremely Jewish.
Which because they were German Jew.
Who, these, oh, the guys, Edward knows.
Yeah, oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
No, these guys were not.
See, the two Johans had noticed some linguistic similarities
between contemporary German languages
and ancient Persian languages.
They both use letters.
How are the coincidence?
You've noticed how we all use the sound ill?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, everyone's white.
Well, both being extreme nationalists,
the two Johans greatly extrapolated from that coincidence
but claiming that northern white Europeans
have been the creators of all civilization
and the classification they gave to these Europeans
was the Aryans.
Oh, sit down, child, what you need are you talking about?
You're talking about all this whole.
You make it all this stuff up about white people.
Have a piece of pie, child.
Oh, you look so thin away.
You just look so pale.
I suppose maybe I could just have some pie.
You want some sweet tea?
I have been working very hard.
That does sound like, actually sounds like a very nice treat.
Now, you sit down here.
Let me fix that jacket of yours.
Most of the time I spend mended.
Okay.
Thank you.
You ever heard of Little Richard?
I have not, but it sounds very nice.
Wapap, Loubap, Boop, Bamboom, you're going to love Little Richard.
Little Richard!
Sounds very manly.
Oh, you'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised.
Now, of course, all of this begs the question as to why it is a common knowledge.
that the Aryans created
everything. Why everybody doesn't know
that white people were the start
of every single
aspect of civilization. Yeah, why not?
I mean, why is this earth-shattering fact
been buried over millennia? And more importantly,
who?
Oh, Marcus, I don't know if I want to know
the answer to that. It's the Jews!
Oh, actually, I did know.
Always. The answer to everything.
Because honestly, how easy
is that for them?
Yeah, it is.
They do make the Jews sound extremely successful.
Actually, we're going to get into that later.
Jews are both the most powerful cabal that run everything
and they're slimy, pestilent rats that need to be destroyed.
There is an absolute reason behind that, which we're going to get into later on.
And we're going to isolate that and ruin Henry's life.
If we could, yeah, yeah.
If we could put that Henry's a brat like as a quote, that would be great.
I'd say, thank you.
If we could send that to our agents, that'd be great.
And make sure they knew he said it on Yom Kippoor.
I am trying.
Now, the Aryan idea was reawakened in 1919 by the writer Hans Gunther, the author we spoke of last episode who wrote one of Hemler's favorite books, The Night, Death, and the Devil.
Gunther came up with five human races based on physical, intellectual, and emotional traits, and he placed the Aryans on top.
Gunther was also a staunch conservative who despised the Weimar Republic, and he believed that the Aryan race was so advanced,
that they might as well be their own species.
Like, you wouldn't, like, let a dog be president
and expect him to do a good job, would you?
Wait a second.
So, why would you do that vis-a-jew?
Is he guessing about my air president script
that I just wrote, your brother's president?
Where everybody in the government dies,
except for Airbud?
And he has to be president in the United States of America.
And then he goes to war with Iran.
But then the guy finds out he's a good boy.
And then everybody hangs out and it's fine,
and everybody, and then Iran gets a guy.
cat and then they fall in love brilliant have you sent that off yet no mostly it's all
it's an old notebook paper I wrote it my dokey copyright I say copyright I got it
it's fine I say copyright I say copyright my struggle another struggle golden retrievers
also the Aryans of dogs wow who's the Jew of the dog world
I'm not going to ask you I'm not
Stop the Irish setter.
The Guthers books and other romantic tomes in the vorkish vein were runaway bestsellers.
Many used the central idea that the so-called sick and impure races had to be exterminated,
while the remaining pure-blooded Nordic stock must exclusively procreate with each other.
It is, I think, important to note that these books outsold M. Kamp by incredibly large
margins, meaning that there were a lot of people in Germany who dug this stuff even before
Hitler amplified it.
Henry Kimler, however, was the one person in Germany who read all this garbage and began
giving serious thought as to how one could actually pull all this off.
And he started thinking about it long before the Nazis rose to the full height of their
powers.
Did Himmler ever write a book?
No.
Those who can't do teach.
He had his diary.
He has copiously kept diary
Oh man, you got a diary now
I have a little journal
The poop diary
I do I am on a
I'm dealing with no I'm literally dealing with a doctor
Right now in which I'm going on this
I'm trying to figure out stuff about my diet
And I have to keep a diary
Of my bowel movements
And I have to describe them
So like stuff like
Two paragraphs three
Like I'm shooting for longer
I'm shooting for page two page
stuff like, I sat down to
poop. It was just a pee.
Be back soon. Be back soon. Love you.
I love you. Good night. And then doing
P.S. Ed was so mean to me today.
My poop looked like
a bunch of raisins. Thank you.
I never, like, had
any instinct to read anyone's diary,
but I would love to get my hands on that.
Dearest Dr. Cremet, Chrysanthemum.
How does my poop
find you today? I hope well.
The brown
today was most surprising. A serene.
Mehagony, like an old woman's chair.
You know, I know exactly the poop you're talking about, and I feel good every time I see it.
Serene mahogany is the perfect color.
It's like, ah, yes, delicious.
Like, it looks like a chocolate mare.
Well, with a head full of ideas, Heinrich Himmler rejoined the main Nazi party
officially in August of 1925, just weeks after the publication.
of Mind Kumpf. Himmler brought the lower Bavarian Nazis
had been hanging out with while Hitler had been in prison. So he essentially came
bearing gifts. Whoa, it was a bringer. Yeah. But by the time Himmler joined
back up, Hitler had been out and about for a while after spending only nine months in so-called
jail. The ban on the Nazi party had been lifted, and two brothers named Gregor and
Otto Strasser were doing everything they could to reconstruct the Nazis into a functioning
political party. See, Hitler and his fellow Nazis had realized after the failed coup that the
path to power was not through sheer brute force. In order to destroy democracy, they had to first
use democracy, and Heiner Kimler was just the type of stooge to help do it. Once he rejoined
the Nazis, Himmler began working as a secretary and assistant to Gregor and Otto Strasser. They
took a shine to Himmler because, one, he owned a motorbike, which was super cool and useful.
Yeah, it's fine.
Yeah, and he could type a lot of words a minute.
Yeah, he could.
But more importantly, Gregor and Otto Strasser recognized Himmler's frustrated ambitions to be a soldier,
which was certainly something they could use to the party's advantage.
I want to go boom boom.
I want to go bang, boom, shoot, drop, and bow.
I wish I could fight.
Oh, my struggles.
But in 1925, Hemler became briefly distracted by his old fantasy of being a warrior farmer.
That year, Hemler resigned.
as Gregor and Otto's secretary to devote time to his brand new chicken farm.
This is what when people describe Hamler, in derogatory terms, is like, oh, the chicken farmer.
This is what they're talking about.
What was it called?
Cluckow?
Put it on top of the wire.
All he who enter here, abandon all eggs.
I actually weirdly think
I mean this is really fucked up
but I do weirdly think
that being a chicken farmer
is actually quite similar
to the way he viewed human beings
possibly
I mean at least viewed human beings
that he didn't consider to be Aryan
which is everybody
yeah
now 1925 is the year
that many Nazis found
for lack of a better term
their groove
That's groove tonight
Boom
It's a Nazi night
And around now
they're starting to get their groove back
That's good tonight.
It's a Nazi night.
We're on this time.
Future propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, found his talent as a speaker.
And since Goebbels was an up-and-comer,
he ended up replacing Heinrich Kempler as Greger and Otto Strasser's secretary,
which put Goebbels in the position to truly shape the Nazi party's politics.
Now that guy sucked.
Yeah.
But as it was with the farming apprenticeship,
Himmler discovered that being a chicken farmer kind of fucking sucked.
What?
And Himmler had no instincts for agriculture, despite having a degree in the subject.
None of these chickens respect me.
None of one will salute.
And they all know what they're supposed to do.
You're supposed to stick your little wing up.
Stick your wing up.
All of his chickens only had right wings.
That's hilarious.
So, Himmler's attention slowly began to return to the Nazi party.
Before long, it was discovered that Heinrich Himler had an almost uncanny talent for mundane
administrative activities and desk work, i.e. the shit that nobody else wanted to do.
Because what did he realize? That hate ain't hitting the table, unless somebody fills out the Excel
sheets. That's right. And this admittedly doesn't sound like an exciting turn of events. But it was
this talent that enabled Heiner Kimler to conceptualize, organize, and carry out the Holocaust.
It can't be overstated that it was as organized as it could possibly be.
Yes. That's the reason why we know so much about it is, because even
even though they spent weeks trying to get rid of all the documentation.
Weeks upon weeks trying to get rid of it.
But the thing about something like the Holocaust is that it requires a lot of paperwork.
And you're not going to get rid of all of it.
Supplies moving around, concrete, and making rail lines and building all the buildings.
Work orders.
And then that's just the non-human side of it.
What about the 6 to 10 million people that went missing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do we not know how many people were actually killed if they kept so check?
record. It's because there was so many killed.
Well, because... And some was official
and some was off the books. Yeah, and they
also didn't necessarily keep records of like
this is how many people were killed. It didn't
go that far necessarily. Not always.
No, because once they were dead,
they were dead. Unfortunately, they didn't treat them
like people. Yeah. They treat... The idea was
that it was really about capacities.
What we know is stuff like the fuel
that had to go to
run the crematoriums. Yeah. That's how
we know how often they're running.
How much Zichlon be they had to order?
Yeah, and then, like, how many people can fit in by how long were they running them?
That's how they have to figure that.
Yeah, and then when you start going into Eastern Europe, like, when we start getting to the Einzatz group in, it's like, okay, how many bullets are they ordering?
And they can actually go there and dig up some of the mass graves and maybe count some of the corpses.
If you're really a fun person.
If you're super curious.
I mean, we could go to Poland, buddy, and we could fucking, and do me in a shovel, yeah.
Yeah, you really do.
Poland's incredible.
No, I want to go.
I want to go.
I can't want to go to Krek off.
I could be wrong about this because I'm still very much learning about Heimerick Himmler,
but when they captured his home in his safe, wasn't it just filled with paperwork?
Yes, we'll get to all of that.
Well, Himmler putting together the Holocaust, this was, of course, in addition to Himmler's
construction of a network of terror and brutality that tormented, intimidated, and oppressed
the whole of Europe. It didn't matter if you were Jew, Gentile, or even a fellow Nazi
you were scared of Heinrich Himmler and his people.
Well, he now knows, too.
He understands that the most powerful fear
is the stuff from inside the party.
Yes.
Now, eventually, Himmler's ambitious diligence
was noticed by Adolf Hitler,
who made the decision to make Himmler second in command
of a small core of men known as the Schutstaffer,
which in English roughly translates to the protection squad.
Basically, these men began as security guards,
the ones who tried to prevent assassinations and attacks
carried out against Nazi leaders.
History, however, knows them better
as the administrators, guards,
and executioners of the concentration camps,
the dreaded SS.
The SS was only 200 men strong
when Himmler was put second in command.
But while he was half-assanid at his chicken farm,
he was also spreading his occult beliefs
throughout the SS,
which basically made the SS an occult organization.
It's so hard to get all those chickens
to sit at a round table.
Yeah.
They don't even understand what a grail is
Unless you fill it with feed
I can't believe he was bad at it
I mean he already looks like an egg
I know but that's the problem
I actually think that that's a day of us potato
Today I'm egg
Which fun is to make a decision
But the chickens look at you being like
You know but I find
It's not just the
The point of the SS
Was the occult angle
Because it was an exact
Opposite vibe
Of the stormtroopers
Oh, yes, which we're going to get into.
Yeah, so the idea was that he made the SS specifically for to house this philosophical viewpoint.
Yes, indeed.
And I didn't know it was shoot stoffel.
I always thought it was shit-suckers.
They are.
That is actually how it's pronounced in Detroit.
Well, as far as the SS being an occult organization, Himmler did his level best to spread his beliefs into every single man who became an SS member.
See, Himmler had cobbled together a Nazi-approved version of history that began with the Aryans living their best lives in a mythical land called Hyperboria, which was supposedly located in the far north of Europe and sounds quite a bit like Atlantis.
No, but it's cold.
Yes.
See, like Atlantis, Hyperborea sank or disappeared, but there were survivors.
Supposedly, the survivors were made up of the ancestors of Aryans, Jews, and the Romani, who often get overlooked when we talk about the Nazis.
Yep.
See, the Romani played a central role in the Nazi myth, acting as the evil turncoats who had betrayed the Aryans on Hyperboria.
Himmler taught his SS men that the Romani were deeply antisocial, treasonous, and ultimately responsible for the flood that had destroyed most of the earth 12,000 years earlier.
Honestly, Romani just mostly have some of the most entertaining weddings have ever seen in television history.
Indeed. This myth was the justification behind the murder of between 300,000 and 1.5 million Romani during World War II.
These murders were perpetrated by the Nazis and specifically Himmler's SS, either by simply executing them where they stood in their homelands or later by shipping them off to be killed or worked to death in Himmler's concentration camps.
And 300,000 to 1.5 million is a huge gap.
Yeah.
I mean, that's how it is with every single number in World War II.
Unless you have, unless you have, because there weren't, the records didn't necessarily exist in the way they do today.
Unless you, it's like a military operation.
Like military, every military knows exactly how many men they lost.
But when it just comes to people, like, you don't really know exactly how many Romani were out there.
There's a, there's, you know, you have an idea.
And then not only that, you don't know some of these people, you don't know, some of them might have just moved somewhere else.
They might have just been, they might have just ran away and got away, chased up me.
Or they could be at the bottom of a fucking pit.
You just don't know.
Also, the key here is to remember, the SS is a paramilitary group.
So it's another interesting factor that Hitler did that he understood to separate things from the main body of the official governorship and the official military of Germany.
So a paramilitary group doesn't necessarily have to follow all the same regulations and all this kind of same thing as the military.
And they can go do a bunch more off the books.
Yeah, I mean, they're just guys.
They're just guys.
Like, they're not, like, the SS are not soldiers.
They're just men in uniform.
Yeah, they're just, like, they're just, seriously.
The SS is a guy that Heinrich Kimler, who himself is just a guy,
they say like, you look good.
Come on.
Yeah, you're tall.
You've got a scary look.
You got blue eyes.
Yeah.
But according to Himmler's myth,
the Romani's treachery on hyperboria was nothing compared to that of the Jews.
See, the central tenet of the Nazi story, the thing that answers the seeming contradiction between the Jews being simultaneously all-powerful and subhuman was that the Jews and the Aryans were locked in a never-ending battle of domination over the earth that could only be one if the Jews were exterminated and their religion destroyed.
It's not that the Jews were necessary, like that's the thing.
It's not that they didn't have power.
The whole point was like, no, they're very powerful.
they're just evil and they must be eliminated.
But this was not necessarily just so the Nazis could spend all their time as warrior farmers,
because one of the little spoken of aspects of Nazism is that it was ultimately an apocalypse cult.
They believed that another great cataclysm like the Great Flood was coming,
and the reason why they had to sweep away all of their rivals for earthly supremacy
was so the Arians could survive to lead human evolution to the next level.
again, the worst villains of history believe they are heroes.
Hamler believed that putting all of this together was going to save the world.
The greater good.
Always about the greater good.
Interestingly, though.
But at that point, on to that level, I don't think he believed in that.
I believed he was just like, once the Nazis are in power, we'll see.
I feel like once he's like, once we've achieved world domination,
there's the ceiling.
There's no ceiling we could do it ever.
Ones, you know? Maybe.
Interestingly, Himmler did not keep his historical fantasies to just Germanic origins.
Just like it was portrayed in the movies, Heiner Kimler really was obsessed with finding the
Holy Grail.
It's still white people shit.
Yeah.
He believed that the inevitable war for domination over Europe would lead to the acquisition
of the grail.
And once found, it would be placed in a castle where it would be guarded by Himmler's
modern medieval knights.
These knights, of course, would be the men of the SS.
Now, Himmler made a name for himself throughout 1925 in the Nazi party by fundraising and organizing,
but he also gave dozens of speeches at various regional Nazi headquarters across Germany.
God, how sad must be to be a regional Nazi headquartered, like being out there in the middle, just being like,
I'm the leader of Heidelberg.
I'm the most evil man in Heidelberg.
You want to shoot?
You know what I mean?
Like, they're all having to deal with all these idiots, guy.
Well, the topics of his speeches were, of course, all anti-Semitic.
No way.
Yeah, well, that's the like, Himmler sort of became known as the guy who really didn't like the Jews.
He's the guy that other Nazis would be like, all right, like, calm down a bit.
But then, when they did that to him, he'd know, oh, you'll be on the list as well.
Yeah.
In speeches that were often over two hours long, Himmler would openly complain that if Germany had gassed more Jews during the Great War,
then maybe Germany would be in a better position than they currently were.
But judging from Himmler's speeches, top Nazi Joseph Gurk,
Goebbels took notice of the 26-year-old hate bug.
Before long, Goebbels had made Himmler the Deputy Reich Propaganda Chief, writing, quote,
Himler's a good fellow, very intelligent.
I like him.
First time anyone had ever written that about Himmler.
I like him.
I guess who was?
Joseph Goebbels.
That's who likes you.
But then again, you're Heinrich Himmler.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just, like, it's fucking 26.
26. It makes me so crazy.
And he looks 45 when he's 26.
He didn't moisturize.
No. But one thing that set Himmler apart from the other Nazis
was that Himmler was not brought into Nazi leadership
through Adolf Hitler's charisma like so many others.
In fact, Himmler never spoke about Hitler directly in his speeches
because Himmler was playing a different game than most other Nazis.
See, many Germans have been swayed far more by Hitler's promise to return Germany
to its former glory than they were by all the Jewish stuff.
In fact, the race talk, I was sort of waved off.
Much like that sort of thing is waved off today.
Like, ah, like, fucking so what?
Like, Hiller, he might say some stuff about the Jews that goes furzes and I might,
but, you know, Hiller just, like, says stuff, you know?
Like, he just says, but out comes to his mind.
He's crazy like that.
I love him for that.
And they're all, like, literally, and again, it sounds familiar in that way,
where they're like, he's just fucking spouting off,
and he's just trying to get attention.
You know, he's just, like, it's all just his personality.
He's just him.
He's just playing to his base.
I mean, the more important thing is that Hitler is going to give us jobs.
He's going to take care of as the farmers again.
And also, aren't Jews kind of annoying anyway?
Like, don't you kind of think that you said, like, a little bit annoying?
Like, you can admit it to me, you can, because we're not Jewish, you can, you can say it to me.
Yeah, it's kind of.
Why would you say that?
Yeah.
Are you calling Gilbert Godfried annoying?
Yeah.
What?
Himmler, by contrast.
Honestly, God help us.
them, they had met Gilbert, Godfrey.
God help.
Or would they be turned? Would they be like,
I love this little anchoring?
I feel like they could literally look like,
he is fucking hilarious.
I can see that. Well, like, obviously,
we all know all the stories about Hitler bringing
Jewish entertainers into the castles.
He was obsessed with Jewish singers
and comedians and he would play
movies and Wizard of Oz and all that shit.
It's all way everybody's, again, hypocrites.
Yes. And
Is there anything worse crime?
Himmler, by contrast, he came to the Nazis with his beliefs fully formed.
The Nazis were simply the ones who were saying in public
what he'd already been saying in private for years.
And Himmler saw in the Nazis and therefore in Hitler a path towards actually making his
horrid dreams a reality.
The key is, remember, he's not here to make Hitler in charge.
He wants to make Hitler in charge only because it's going to give him license
to spread his hatred on everyone.
Yeah. Now, once the Nazis really started cooking in the mid-1920s, Himmler immediately saw how he could rise in the ranks.
He would sit back and watch the other Nazis rip each other to shreds.
And when one Nazi fell, Himmler would pick up the responsibilities left behind.
He was sort of a power scavenger.
Himmler also knew how to leverage his comrades to get support from Hitler indirectly.
By concerning himself with organizational matters, communication and propaganda, and endless reports,
Himmler made sure that when people spoke about him to Hitler, it was only to say how amazing, incapable Himmler was at everything he did.
It also shows that Hitler was like, it's more just him seeing all this paperwork and going like, oh, he's very busy.
It's like, he's just not, it's all of this.
It's all, says, Van Zeng I love.
It's a busy bee.
Easy be.
And they're all just, like, that's the thing.
It's all surface level.
Like, they're all, like, lying to each other.
But the other side of Himmler's rise to power was they.
that he knew how to set up the rules so that other people would be sure to break them.
And when they did break them, he gained only further opportunities to gain influence.
Once Himmler got a little more responsible and trust within the party,
he put together a pamphlet which laid out guidelines for all Nazi administrators.
This was basically the beginning of Himmler practicing for the day
when the Nazis were in power and his view of morality could be forced upon the whole of Germany.
Keeping with the strict guidelines set out by his father when he was a child,
Himmler wrote that failure to keep deadlines
would result in a stern warning
and when necessary, these failures
would be reported directly to the furor.
You don't want me to tell daddy, do you?
This may not sound like such a big deal,
but remember that the Nazis were at this point
they're basically a bunch of dudes
in their early to mid-20s.
That's a fact that is often forgotten by history.
Heinrich Kimler himself was only 26 years old
at this point,
So he knew that placing extreme importance on deadlines was going to get a lot of Nazis in trouble with Hitler, who, Hitler, ironically, was himself famously lazy.
I don't think it's ironic. I think it's built in. I think it's the idea is that he can be lazy. You know, he's in charge.
He's the furor. But he can't. The rest of them can't. The rest of them, God forbid, they're lazy.
Yeah. Hemler does have resting tattletail face.
He does. Well, then again, Hamler was working when Hitler wasn't working. You know what I mean?
Hemler knew.
And I like the idea of power.
He was never working.
You never.
And I love the concept of power scavenger.
Yeah.
Because it's a corporate thought.
It's a way these guys.
Well, it's how fascism works.
Why do you think we have David Zazlov who's never made a fucking movie in his life in charge of one of the most important show business pillars right now, economically?
Because he's good at all the other dumb shit except for making movies.
And so this and someone likes that.
There's somebody they understood at some point, oh, we're sitting here all day making movies.
when we should be making money and this is
that's how you find yourself in a corporate
idiot running everything. This guy
is just great. He's
great at the corporate edge and that's exactly
how the Nazis are going to make it to the top.
All I know is someone who's got a
Kickstarter for their movie shouldn't be talking shit about David Zasloff.
UFO.com.combo.combe, honestly, if you can check it out,
I just got, I just got
obviously I'm not going to Marvel.
All right, so if you could.
But within this pamphlet,
Himmler also began giving explicit instructions on how Nazis could purposefully target Jews.
He wrote that it was a Nazi's duty to document all relevant information about any Jew that a
Nazi might come upon, information like ages, jobs, and addresses.
Any person who refused to work with the Nazis collection of data was to be fine, imprisoned,
or when deemed necessary, killed.
This was all before the Nazis had any actual governmental power at all, because at this point,
the Nazis were more like a street gang.
They're more like,
there's something like the proud boys
than they were an actual political party.
So they're actually killing people at this point?
Very much so.
Yes, they've been killing people since the 20s.
Or since the,
I guess since the early 20s.
But even before that, they had killed
a couple hundred people.
Like, they're just street gang.
They are an extraordinarily
violent street gang.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, they actually killed enough people
where I think I mentioned it last episode,
It was a plot line in
Downton Abbey
where one of the girls
like boyfriends
goes to Germany
and he is killed
in 1924 by
this horrid man
Adolf Hetler
I believe it's his name
I don't think that's
I don't think that's the last
rookie hearing of him
I hate that fucking shit
That shit makes me so angry
I love it so much
You're not gonna go see the wedding one
In the theater?
I love it
I love it so much
I'm gonna make it a red wedding
Perhaps because the Nazis
gave Heinrich Himmler a bit of street cred
He was in 1927
Finally able to convince a woman to marry him
Wow, yeah
Because that's exactly
She's like, honey, you need to get a job
Hemler's bride was a large,
humorless, divorced woman
With a noticeable facial tick
Eight years older than Himler
named Marga
Ahlo
Handsome name
Yeah
I don't get the full name of Marguerite because I was already so big.
As far as we know, Marga was the first woman to ever take a serious interest in Heinrich Kemmler,
who had little, if any, sexual experience.
He may not have even kissed a woman before Marga.
No, I honestly don't think, yeah, I don't think he did.
Yeah.
Himmler was the soul of prudishness, and Marga was a domineering woman who did all.
All the seducing forums.
Show me your pickle.
Now make pickle big.
Oh, I show you how to make pickle big.
Oyo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Now put the milk in my craft.
Put the milk in me, you little bitch.
Okay.
Put the fucking evil milk fill with your little squids in my fucking cleft.
It sounds very, very dirty.
Fuck.
Fuck my horse.
He probably couldn't kiss with the little lips.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which he thought were very nice.
He loved little lips.
He loves thin lips.
Yeah, teeth just keep hurting you.
According to Himmler's diaries, he was terrified to take Marga home to his father,
writing that he would rather clear a hall of a thousand communists single-handedly
rather than try to get approval for a marriage to an older Protestant divorcee.
But in the end, Professor Himmler said, fine, whatever.
because Heinrich and Marga
seemed to be a good match.
He's just like, get him
out of my fucking house.
Oh, he's at by this point.
Just do whatever you want.
I don't fucking care.
I don't fucking care.
Yeah.
Please have sex with my son.
Fuck my son.
Both of them worshipped efficiency,
thrift, and rigorous neatness.
And Margot would call Himmler
her, quote,
naughty darling.
Oh, man.
She also called him Hainey.
Yeah.
He's cute, which is the Jewish name for ass.
Hiney.
I mean, oh, my naughty little darling.
Well, she also, she was just barely a human being.
Yeah, well, she was the owner of a homeopathic health clinic.
Yeah, very vulkish.
Which shows you that, well, not just vulcish, but, you know,
it shows you that the whole natural healing phenomenon
touches tips with fascism quite a bit.
Always.
Always.
It's always has.
It's so funny.
It's so strange.
Are you calling her a vindictive bitch?
I don't think I can see.
stand for that. I know. I know.
I'm just saying when people, when
someone's really into crystals,
there is a better
than not chance that they might
be a Nazi. It's weird. Like it's weird
but it happens. It's always about
if they have crystals and a bra
they might be a Nazi. I view that
a view it that way. Yeah.
Well, Heinrich and Marga were married in July of
1928 and shortly after took out
a mortgage on a small chicken farm
outside of Munich where they kept 50
chickens and grew produce. The next
Next year, Marga gave birth to their only child, a daughter named Goudroon.
And true to Himmler's nerd nature, his daughter, Gudroon, was named after the wife of the Germanic folk hero Siegfried.
It's like, it's like the modern equivalent.
If you named your daughter like Catnus or Hermione today, it's the same fucking thing.
Oh, I could see Himmler deep in Funko.
He would love Funko Pops.
But to show you that all these dudes hung out, I've got to drive to Dragon Khan.
There is a limited edition female silver server from Fantastic Four First Deaths.
I must acquire my doctor who, Funko Pop, or there will be vengeance.
He was kind of like his own Funko Pop.
Here he was.
Tiny, big, other piece of shit.
Thank you.
But to show you that all these dudes hung out together and formed their own little world bit by bit,
the man who delivered Gudrun Himmler,
was one of the great villains of Nazi Germany.
Dr. Victor Brack.
About a decade after delivering Himmler's daughter,
Dr. Brack would lead Himmler's euthanasia program.
Aw.
Oh, nice.
Keeping into the family.
The youth in East Asia.
You know, like, you know who'd be great for this?
You remember that guy who delivered Goudron?
Yeah, he would be great to annihilating the Jewish race.
Well, actually, Brack was in charge of Action T4, in which the Nazis murdered 300,000 people with disabilities and supposed mental illness.
In essence, Dr. Brack oversaw the dry run for the Holocaust.
Like, the Action T4 was like, let's try this out, see what people think of it.
Just so you know, it's the industry, we call it, it's Tech Week, but we call it Hell Week.
And actually, that was a good run.
Yes.
Good run.
Good run.
It's allowed.
He is just a Jew
Now, when Goudroon was born in 1928,
the Nazis had made some slight gains in Germany's parliament,
known as the Reichstag.
They held 12 seats, just 2% of the vote,
and Hitler had no official standing.
In other words, they were not popular,
and it seemed like the Nazis might peter out.
I think that's what people thought in general.
It's 100% what most people thought.
They're like, okay, you know, he had a moment.
Yeah.
But as we mentioned last episode,
the Great Depression swept through Germany in 1929
and erased any economic gains the Vyemar Republic had made
since the years of hyperinflation.
Hitler and the Nazis therefore leveraged the economic turmoil
into massive support amongst people
who are looking for simple and comforting answers
to complicated questions.
As such, the Nazis took 107 seats in the next election,
giving them 18% of the vote.
This made them the second largest party in the Reichstag, although Hitler still held no official position.
While Hitler had no power in government, he was still making moves within the Nazi party to prepare for the day when he did cease power.
In 1929, Adolf Hitler made the fateful decision to appoint Heinrich Kimler as the sole commander of the entire SS.
So how did Hitler fit in if he had no position?
Was he just like a mouthpiece?
Yeah.
Like a Tucker Carlson type of deal?
No, he's just the guy behind the guy.
He's the guy that's selling you.
We're here and we're getting there.
We're going to take you where you need to go.
Vote my people into power.
I need to get there eventually, but vote my people into power.
You put this correctly last time.
It kind of feels like he's like LeBron James of the Nazi party.
All these other guys, they're waiting because they know he's not going to be some little guy.
He's the team captain.
Yeah, you don't, like that's the thing.
You don't put him as like a Reichstag member.
too big for that. He's too important for that.
Yeah, they're aiming for him to be Chancellor, which
is their version of the Prime Minister.
And it's more Jordan because of a tiny mustache.
Yes. Well, that's definitely the fact. That's what he really is.
That was that Haines commercial where he...
He was trying stuff out, you know.
If there was one man that
is allowed to take back the Hitler mustache,
it is the true goddamn American Michael Jordan.
He tried. He's allowed to try.
He tried, and he failed.
Yes. But he's allowed to try.
And he took that personally.
Live from your grave.
You know what's really hard about keeping a bowel movement there and all this,
starting to realize, like, how many times I really shit.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Did you write that down in your log, the one you just took?
I looked at it.
Oh, it's funny that it is a log.
Yeah.
It's a log log log.
It's a log log log.
I looked at it.
I noted it.
Nice.
It was...
Do you take pictures?
Solid.
No, not yet.
It was solid.
It had frayed edges.
I would say it was more towards a ceramic tan.
Yeah.
In the days of the...
camera phone, like the camera phone, isn't
it far easier to just take a picture of it
and text it to your doctor than it is
to describe it with words? It seems that
this woman doesn't want
pictures of your feces. Yeah, it
seems that she'd prefer my
attempt at explaining them.
I'm going to just start, I am going to start taking
pictures. So like when we have the one-on-one, I can show
her. Maybe the problem is that she would get
so many pictures of feces that she would
lose track of whose was whose. So you
should probably start writing your name down
in the day and taking a picture. And taking a
picture of that. Or that's put a little clown face
at the edge of your toilet. So she knows
who her. So she knows it's here, yeah.
She's like, have San Luis.
Back to Himmler.
Now, even though Adolf Hitler was
famously lazy and spent much
of his time when he did finally get in the office
reading right-wing newspapers instead of
listening to briefings or actually governing.
God, who does it?
He did have a knack for placing
people where they could operate at maximum
efficiency, which, fortunately, is not a skill that the current administration has.
He really was, unfortunately, yeah, super good to delegating authority.
He was.
Yeah, he's like a Cicholese manager.
Yes.
Yes.
Especially like the one in Toledo by the 145?
That's a high volume.
See, Hitler recognized Himmler's incredible administrative skills, his perfectionism,
and his self-discipline.
Yeah, he's willing to do all the fucking shit work that nobody else wants to do.
But more importantly, Hitler recognized Himmler's military ambition.
And since Himmler had so desperately wanted to play army his whole life,
Hitler figured that Himmler was the right guy to turn around the SS.
See, at the time, the SS was sort of a disappointing younger brother of the SA,
the Stormtroopers.
The SA, they'd been causing havoc all over Germany.
They were doing fucking great.
Oh, yeah.
At least when it came to, you know, the Nazis.
But they were like scruffy and like...
There was like tens of thousands of them, and they were very, very, very,
Dangerous.
But the vibe was distinctly one way.
Yeah.
What was the street gang vibe?
Street gang, young guys, high energy, lots of violence.
And, but largely, like, they were sort of, like, kids.
Like, they kind of feel like droogies.
You're reminding me of, like, Clockwork Orange, where they're running around, doing chaos for chaos's sake.
Less drugs, though.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what it was.
And the essay were starting to become completely out of control.
People were starting to complain.
like you created this monster
you need to get a handle on this shit
Mr. Hitler
He's like my thing is I don't really get
a handle on things unless I'm
killing it in a mast state
So Himmler's 26
at this point or like 30 maybe
He's about he this is, we're at 1930 now
Is Hitler the same age?
No, Heller's a few years older
Okay
Yeah Hitler, he's from senior class
Yeah gotcha
I don't know exactly how old Hitler is this point
I think he's maybe like five six years older
But yeah, Hitler died in his 50s
So he really wasn't that old either
He didn't look good, buddy
Well, he didn't look good at all
He got to put a smile on that face
He was 41, right
At 1930
Okay
Yeah
Because the essay had been causing so much havoc
Hitler called up the corpulent
openly gay World War I veteran
Known as Ernst Grom
Yay
Grom had actually been absent from Germany
For the previous six years
Which is kind of how the essay had gotten out
a hand, because he'd been spending his time as an advisor to the Bolivian military in South
America. And you'd think there'd be like a massive story there? There ain't. Like, he just
hung out in South America for six years, kind of doing stuff, kind of not, had very little
impact on the affairs of South America. But it does seem like it's a little eerie in the fact
that they all went to South America. So there must have been, like, not anything, but there must
have been like, that idea at some point must have at least been like tacked on a wall somewhere
and a Nazi idea of, like,
retired to Bolivia.
It just started with one guy's like,
you remember, like, Ernst?
Like, and before we killed him,
you remember he's the Bolivia, it's really nice?
He said it was, like, very cool for us.
It's so great.
Very cool for us.
And the pork was unbelievable, honestly.
Well, when Adolf Hitler called Rome
and asked him to return to Germany
to run the essay once again in 1930,
Rome came running.
Now, Hamler knew that as soon as he was put in charge
of the SS,
that he was going to have to break...
Also, please, prancing.
But Himmler knew that as soon as he was put in charge of the SS,
that he was going to have to break away from the essay eventually.
At this point, the SS was a part of the essay,
which meant that Himmler was beholden to Ernst Rome.
Himmler, of course, saw Rome as a filthy degenerate due to his homosexuality.
Himmler believed that he could transform the disappointing SS
into the pride of the Nazi party.
So he imposed his own brand of discipline and order.
order onto the group while also passing down his techniques for gaining power.
See, Himmler thrived on information, so he instructed the SS to gather information not just on
prominent Jews, but on the leaders of rival political movements in addition to well-known
Freemasons, because Himmler was nothing, if not a conspiracy theorist.
Well, Freemasons, but we talked a little about it last time, it's the same groups of people
that these secret society places became hubs of international espionage.
So he viewed that as, because he knew it was going on inside of the Tula Society.
It's like, so he just, again, like all Nazis, they commit crimes against people committing their same crimes.
Indeed.
Once Hemler was fully given the SS, he lost all enthusiasm for his wife, Marga, and their chicken farm,
which was failing just as badly as every other agricultural pursuit Hamler had ever attempted.
Was my husband all I have with all these feathers?
I wish my hospital will come and feel my crevies again
Anish, your neck is getting very big
Very big
Can't keep coming home to this fucking neck
I'm sick of your trucking
See, Himmler had been appointed a spot in the Reichstag
A position that paid far better than chicken farming
Himmler was the type of guy that you put in the Reichstag
You don't put Hitler in the Reichstag
So Himmler therefore all but abandoned his family
And his farm to devote himself fully
to remaking his section of the Nazi party in his own image.
Ew.
Yeah, right?
What an image.
Now, with the SS, Himmler could truly bring his fantasies to life.
As opposed to the street gang vibe of Ernst Rome's essay,
Himmler saw the SS as an elite band of warriors
who had eventually become Hitler's knights at arms.
Following this line of gallantry,
Himmler demanded that every SS leader follow and enforce Himmler's brand of strict discipline,
SS men could not drink alcohol
they were required to get plenty
of sleep, drink plenty of water
and their clothes were required
to be clean and properly ironed
at all times. I do believe
there's a little bit of this that we've seen this new
kind of this sentiment I keep
coming about of this idea of like
civilized ways of doing
things and this is a civil
way of doing things. We're doing these things
proper way of doing things
and you could see that that's what he
did with the SS where he started understanding
being like, we will make them a fearsome group of serial killers.
They will be very neat so that people will at first think they're official and they're real.
Yeah, they'll look up to them.
They'll look up to them.
Well, in other words, Himmler demanded that everyone beneath him be as exact, scrupulous, and pedantic as he was in all respects.
This meant that Himmler's great obsession was the elevation of his men.
So he had little to do with the day-to-day strategy of the Nazi party.
He wasn't in the meetings with Hitler and Goring and Goebbels.
To build out the ranks of the SS, the most Nazi of the Nazis,
Himmler purposefully sought out, disaffected middle and upper middle class young men like himself,
as well as the sons of former nobility.
These were the men who had a specific nut against the Weimar Republic and the communists,
and bonus points were awarded to those who had formerly served other paramilitary organizations
or had served in World War I, unlike Himmler.
Because you know it's nice. Don't got to train them.
Nope. And they can actually tell you what should be done.
Yes.
And then you can make it seem like it's your idea.
Because that's what Himmler was doing, because he had no idea what he was fucking doing.
Well, I mean, he'd gone through officer training school.
He knew everything from an academic perspective, everything.
But again, it's also an example of somebody that is still largely, he's not a professional soldier.
No.
He's not an amateur.
He's an amateur. And he is put in charge of an extremely important part of the government.
Yeah.
He's a super fan.
Yeah, he is a super fan.
But at this point, like, he's not in charge of, he's just, like, the SS is still not a
part of the government.
No, yeah, it's just its own crew.
There's still a bunch of guys.
Now, a somewhat underrated aspect of the SS in terms of importance is there are now
infamous uniforms, which, contrary to popular belief, were not designed by Hugo Boss.
They were manufactured by Hugo Boss.
They were, the seamstresses worked at Hugo Boss.
No, they, no, Hugo Boss did make that they took the contracts to make the SS uniforms.
Okay, so I could still be mad at them.
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the designer of the uniforms was none other than Heinrich Himmler.
Yeah, you know what's nice about that guy?
What a multi-tail one.
The further separate the SS from the essay,
Himmler designed a uniform consisting of a brown shirt,
an SS armband showcasing their goofy double lightning bolt,
a black tie, black pants, black shoes, and a black belt.
See, Himmler actually knew the power of branding,
and especially the power of conformity.
And he became so obsessed with the SS uniform that one could be dismissed from the SS or even the Nazi party itself for wearing the uniform outside of Himmler's exacting standards.
This has a psychological, like, effect as well.
Oh, yeah.
Like, this idea of making these rules that you almost can barely follow, it's a way to, it keeps you on the line, right?
It's the same with all the other stuff.
It makes you feel like you are a part of an elite group.
Yeah, and it's, but it's also the idea of knowing, like, I gave you all this, I put you in this position, and I can take it away for the tiniest reason.
So be on your fucking toes.
Now, what's Himmler got the look under control?
He began implementing his foul racial theories by crafting policies within the SS itself in anticipation of one day implementing these rules worldwide.
In 1931, Himmler formed the Race and Settlement Office.
In German, that's called, Reich Zika, he shout out.
But we'll call it Roushya.
Oh, I thought they were against them.
Well, Roushia developed a racial grading system that weeded out men who would not serve Hemler's vision of the SS or his vision of Germany's future.
Because remember, they're one and the same.
By investigating the physical characteristics of each applicant and grading them on a five-point scale from pure Nordic to suspected non-European blood components,
Himmler whittled down applicants to construct a group of perfect physical Nazis.
Amongst the most sought-after characteristics were long heads, narrow faces, flat foreheads, angular chins, thin lips, tall slender bodies, blue eyes, and fair hair.
Whatever, man.
So, I mean, I've got like, you know, four out of six, four out of eight there.
That's just because you're mostly British, but your hair.
honestly your eyes
Well I got the angular chin
I got the thin lips
I got the slender body
Tall slender body
Yeah it's no
Blue eyes kind of
I don't know
If I was similar
I still might just shoot you in the head
I'm not certain
I gotta think about this
Think about it
Hey hey let me think about it
Think about it yeah
Get back to me
But didn't they need everybody
No
Well this is the thing
This is the SS
And that's a really
It's actually a really important thing
To remember
And that's a really important
distinction
This is not the army
Like that this is
This is the elite group of Nazis within the Nazis itself.
This is the most Nazi of Nazis.
And this is before they became the Nazis that ran Germany.
This is the beginnings of all of this.
It's like they're Marines?
I'm just trying to equate it to something I understand.
Dude, it's like their royal guard.
It's like the Pope's guard, like the Swiss Guard.
Yeah.
It's like that, but for Hitler.
And then he's going to turn them, but he's going to expand it.
Yeah, because right now these are supposed to be Hitler's guards.
They're knights.
Okay.
These are, think of them as knights.
Like, you know, you have a king and the king has his knights, the SS are supposed to be the knights.
That's how Himmler sees them at least.
But then his goal probably is to turn the SS into the actual government.
Yeah.
Well, once inspected and deemed worthy, Himmler would keep a so-called stud record of the SS officer,
proving that the man had what it took to breed Germany into Aryan superiority.
Yeah, they were obsessed with babies.
Yeah.
But the great irony here is that everyone who worked at Ruscha knew that Heinrich Himmler himself
did not in any way qualify as pure-blooded Nordic.
In contrast to the ideal,
Hemler had a small pigeon-chested body,
a round face, sallow skin, dark hair,
and a receding chin,
which were all signs of so-called non-European blood.
After the war, one Ruscha examiner
finally let his frustrations fly
by openly saying that Himmler was, quote,
an unassimilated half-breed.
Unfit.
Unfit to be even a member
of the organization that Adolf Hitler,
another obvious non-Aryan,
had actually put him in charge up.
But while Himmler was still alive,
no one dared say anything about this to his face,
save for one man.
Dr. Werner Best,
eventual organizer of the Einzatzgruppen
and the creator of the Jewish registry in Germany,
he did actually confront Himmler
about his non-Nordic appearance.
Himmler, however, was completely unfazed.
He already knew he didn't fit the mold,
but he had an answer all ready to go.
while he didn't have an Aryan body
Himmler said he did have quote
A Nordic brain
Yeah his brain was Nordic
You can't check that
Fuck you
It's like a lot of people would assume I'm white
A lot of people assume
Just by looking at me I'm white
So what is your brain? No I'm Polish
Well my brain's white
But my body's Polish
Yeah I got you see like that's the thing
Again I'd be in a concentration game
No you wouldn't
Yeah they would
No simply just because I'm too
great. No, because you couldn't keep your mouth shut. That's why, not because you're Polish.
I mean, they would have been happy about it.
The only person in my family... You would have been higher on the list than me.
Yeah. So half my family's Jewish, half my family's Catholic, and the only person in my family
that went to a concentration camp was a Polish Catholic. Interesting. Wow. Yeah. What
for? I think she was hiding Jews. Oh, yeah. I thought, I was really afraid you're going to be
like, she was catering. She worked there.
Yeah. She cleaned on like Mondays and Fridays.
That's my dad's old. That's an old dad joke. It's been like his grandfather died in Auschwitz.
Yeah, he fell off one of the gun towers.
Now, Himmler wormed his way into the lives of the men of the SS in far more ways than just examining their physical characteristics.
In an attempt to control every aspect of their lives, Himmler decreed that the potential wives of any SS officer had to also undergo racial screenings,
and medical examinations.
Incredibly, these women, who today would be put
into the Tradwife category,
they were fully willing to submit to these tests
because Nazism had, by this point,
begun to move from the lonely loser space
into mainstream German society.
That's when you really have to watch out
when the ladies are starting to say,
OK, I'll do it too.
Well, they're also, remember,
because they're white ladies
and they're getting the same privileges.
And they also know,
this is actually kind of in the,
for me, it's in the function of why people
have sex with serial killers, like why they
are attracted to that style of thing, is that
a lot of these ladies are starting
to see the very cynical writing on the wall
of, oh, I better catch
some gunk for some Nazis
because that's going to keep me fed
in a really nice lifestyle.
My life won't change. Like
nothing about my life will change.
I actually maybe will live like a
normal life in this world. Yeah,
there's certainly some of that, but you're really...
Sure, but also just pure hate. Yeah, that's the thing. You can't
discount the fact that there are also plenty of women who are
just filled with hate, just as much as men are.
Oh, there's a bunch of them, man.
There's a bunch of them. You ladies?
You guys got it.
Yeah. You guys know what's going on.
So before this, they all looked like Marga, but then they started looking a little better.
Yeah.
Well, they, the SS one specifically.
Yeah, because the SS guys were supposed to be handsome, so they're getting more handsome ladies as well.
Well, this is the beginning of also, like, their views on, like, this is like a vaguely, like, eugenics, like, programs.
It's not vaguely.
It is 100% in spot.
by eugenics like the eugenics because eugenics that's an american um creation oh really oh yeah they're
inspired by that yeah eugenics is american creation it was created here it was developed here uh and the nazis
hemler and hitler both loved eugenics they thought it was incredible yeah himler was actually
kind of surprised he always expected he actually always expected america to like come around he's like
they'll be they'll they'll get into it eventually like come on like i mean the manifest destiny
love that based my entire
Liebens around on that. That's awesome.
You know, eugenics, they're super
into that. I'm super into that.
Well, to me honest, that's what we'll, once we get
later on in this series, we'll talk about that.
But I do think that that is one of the weird
hitches and all this,
is that these guys really do believe on
some level that when we get
the Third Reich up and
running, the rest of the world is going
to be into it. Like, there is like this
kind of almost thought of like, once we get it all
set, the rest of the world's going to be like,
Okay.
Yeah, that looks cool.
I want that.
Yeah.
Well, he fucked up by not telling Japan.
Yeah.
It just turned out that, like, what's really probably good to hear is that a lot of these ideas aren't super popular across the world.
And eventually you're going to end up in a trench covered in gasoline on fire.
Concerning, you know, Himmler's search for the perfect Aryan bride, if any fault,
was found in a potential wife for an SS member,
Himmler had the power to deem the woman unsuitable for marriage.
And if Himmler thought the woman was offensively unsuitable,
he reserved the right to kick the man who brought her out of the SS altogether,
for even suggesting her as a potential mate.
But once the woman was deemed suitable,
Himmler would put her through so-called bride schools of his own design.
These taught future SS wives the principles of both tradwifery
and the principles that needed to be taught to their children
to ensure that they were brought up
in the proper Nazi fashion.
Because the Nazis were very invested in children.
Very much so.
Yeah, well, I mean...
They had that four.
Yeah.
That was the rule, right?
Yeah.
And eventually, it got to be
where children in Nazi Germany
were the most terrifying people of all.
Watch the white ribbon.
Yes.
Yes, because the children were the ones
who were telling on their parents.
They were completely out of control,
and parents everywhere in Germany
were absolutely terrible.
of what was going to happen.
And likewise, the men were told not to drink, fight, or have sex in excess.
Even with their own wives, every SS man had to be extremely disciplined in every way,
because Himmler believed that it was that discipline that made them good Aryan examples for the German people.
Or is a good excuse for him not to fuck his own wife.
Do I mean?
No, no, no, you know, you see, the rules.
A real man.
It's the rules.
A real man only has sex once a month.
Yeah, and I made the rules.
Yes, I am as I made the rules,
but there's still the rules that I can't have sex with you, Marga.
He just...
I'm with that, neck!
Do you think that, was Marga, or was Himmler gay?
Sometimes I really wonder.
How much focus he puts on on handsome, broad-chested, tall men
and measuring their bodies and taking pictures of their naked bodies
and making sure they're fucking right and eating right
and all these do is watching these big alpha Germans
that are taller than him, wider than him,
stronger than him, and he's getting, like, blowered over them
and, like, look at their piss and shit.
It's an interesting theory.
It's possible.
But I think that...
I just guess.
Honestly, I think Himmler was asexual.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he's a Nazi first.
Yes, he's a Nazi first.
And a lover third.
Yeah, I don't think Himmler...
Administrator second.
Yeah, I don't think Himmler really had, if he did have sexual feelings, he didn't like them, and he didn't really want them.
Like, he didn't say, like, sex to him was useless. It was a nuisance. It's kind of like how I look at eating, you know?
Yeah. It's like, it's a pain in the ass.
I get it. Yeah.
That's how I look at. Honestly, no, I'm pretty, I'm full bourgeois, Aviv.
Now, what Hemler put the men of the SS through in order to be a part of his medieval night revival society was just the start.
Essentially, what Himmler was doing with the SS was merely a blueprint that he planned to use for all society.
He and he alone would decide who the ideal human should be.
And while he knew that the creation of that ideal human would cause suffering on an unimaginable scale,
he believed that any sacrifice was justified in the pursuit of that goal.
An incredibly short order, though, Himmler's obsessions would catch on first in the Nazi party
and then throughout Germany, to the point where if you wanted to,
to be a part of society, you had no choice but to believe in, or at least accept the same
things that Heinrich Kamler believed.
It sounds like a silly term, but it's called notzification.
Yeah.
And they say it a lot in historical context.
And I didn't know that that actually really was that.
And they talk about it.
They talk about like the idea that like the boiling frog allegory, like this idea that you don't
really understand quite how fast it's going.
And then everything becomes notcified.
The judges become not, like every single layer become infused with this fake thing.
Everybody has to like walk through to like, you know, like all of the, the ritualistic behavioral, the zigheiling and the, and the things you have to do.
And it keeps people like locked in.
And it just becomes a part of society.
It's like it wasn't, like it wasn't necessarily illegal to not zigheel people.
Oh, but it was frowned upon.
Well, you would get the shit beat out of you.
You could be beaten half to death for not zigheiling someone.
And it probably could beat the shit to death by a lot of things.
Oh, many, many things, yes.
There's so many faux, like, because that's the thing, they created a whole new system of faux paws
and a whole new system of things they could get pissed off about.
Well, basically, Himmler was creating a new aristocracy from the peasantry,
the aristocracy of the Third Reich.
And it's a part of the egalitarian nature of the Nazis, which is very true.
They understood a little bit about the class war stuff that Russia was talking about,
And they understood that if we make this a workers, if we make this about the quote-unquote little people in the beginning.
The Volk.
Yes.
That was the whole point.
It's all about der Volk, the people.
The existing aristocracy of Germany, however, the wealthiest people in the country, they believed that they could use the Nazis for their own personal gain.
Oh.
Yeah.
This same thing is happening with rich men today, men like Mark Zuckerberg.
I mean, Mark Zuckerberg changed his entire personality.
to better fit in with this administration.
There is no Mark Zuckerberg.
Grilling these meats.
Yeah, there is no Mark Zuckerberg.
There is no Peter Thiel.
Yeah, they're all,
I literally, I'm starting to almost believe that they believe that,
do you know that that's a big thing with Peter Thiel right now, right?
That he believes that AI is God.
But he's saying this.
He's saying it because he knows he's going to be in charge of it.
So this is a new thing that they're doing is acquiring Christianity.
It's this whole, like, creating frameworks around Christian thought
because they're reacting to our current government.
Sure.
Yeah, I mean, it's all about molding to fit into the government.
So you can get what you want.
You can get your law push through.
You can get your favors.
You can get whatever you want.
I guess what Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg also think?
They're smarter than everybody else.
And everybody's going to fall in line with whatever it is that they do.
But the problem with pretending to be a monster is that both the pretender and the believer end up in the exact same spot in the end.
Yes, be careful of what you pretend to be.
Now, while Hemler was constructing his racial hierarchy within the end,
SS, he met what could essentially be described as mini Himmler in terms of brutality and
cruelty, a man who doesn't quite reach the heights of the Mount Rushmore of evil, but
certainly has an honorable mention. That man who joined the SS in 1931 was Reinhardt.
I got to say, he's all right. He's my husband. Mr. Himmler. I am a his boss and I have a peanut.
Isn't this the guy we were originally going to do the series about? No. No, no, no. Oscar Derlerwinger.
Okay.
Yeah, this started with Oscar Der Luanger and turned into Himmler.
Okay, cool.
All right, right.
See, Reinhardt Heidrich was damn near Himmler's physical idea of what a Nazi should be.
Hyderick was tall and blonde-haired with a model physique and piercing hypnotic blue eyes.
God, Himmler just wants to be fucking ass full of that guy.
Hydric, however, wasn't perfect.
He also had very wide, very feminine hips.
His voice was too high for a man.
and he spoke in a nervous staccato
men with big butts are weird
I have a big butt
no but big butts
I got a bubble butt
I got a bubble butt
you have a nice butt
I'm talking about big butts
yeah big wide butts
I like my big white ass
talking about a grimace
but
Raynard Hydrick
he was alert
filled with nervous energy
hard working
and above all, extremely intolerant
to anyone who wasn't just like him.
That's what you call a perfect Nazi.
You know, I've got to say to you,
Hyderick, I love your tolerance for intolerance.
Do you only like people that are just like me?
Oh, you don't like me.
That's your attitude I like.
You're not like me, but you like me.
Okay, I'm already annoyed by you.
Now, waggle your fat ass out of this room, please.
Oh, you like it when I live,
but you love to watch me go.
Ooh, shites, and heikin, heik and schneikin, I want to put my strudel in that.
Call, fucking click-cluck, cluck, cluck.
Oh, I dropped my pencil.
I just dropped mine pencil.
Personality-wise, Hydrick was the perfect match for Himmler's cunning, an astute in calculating Nazi who surrounded himself with men who compensated for his failings while remaining subservient.
But the problem is, though, constantly knocking things over with his big.
but
that is like
a thing
that allows
it doesn't allow
you go to
management
see
Hydrick was
the one
who came up
with the
idea
that the
SS
should have
an
intelligence
service
specifically
to secretly
investigate
other members
of the
Nazi party
every
member
of the
Nazi party
and any
Nazi
whose ambitions
didn't
line up
with
Hitler's
hemlers
or
Hyderks
would be
identified
and eliminated
at the
proper time
I would get
them out
we would
get these
Bad Nazis are bad
Nottsies were being not bad enough
And kick them out
Oh
Mostly it came down to like
Do you believe
That Adolf Hitler is the one and only
Furor
And if the answer was anything other than
Absolutely
Or just the idea that any
Any Jewish person could be saved
Yeah
These sorts of ideas
Created a mutual respect
Between Himmler and Hyderick
Over the next 10 years
Until of course
Hyderick was killed in 1942
while he was plotting to surpass Himmler
and even Adolf Hitler himself.
And that's the key.
That's Himmler in a nutshell
because Himmler knows
that he also wants to do the same thing.
Yeah.
But guy like Hydrick, he just doesn't do it right.
No.
Himmler knows you got to be very patient.
Mm-hmm.
You got to wait for just the right moment.
And even when he had his moment,
he was still too fucking stupid to notice.
That's what happens with being a fucking Nazi
apparently means that you're not super good at many things.
Yeah.
But even though Heidrich was close to the Aryan ideal, many of the other men that Himmler chose as leaders in the SS weren't.
Rather than enforce extreme strictness when choosing leaders, Himmler chose men who would be loyal to him, although that wasn't the main requirement.
Perhaps even more important than loyalty was an inability to live in German society as it existed.
Same problem that Heinrich Himmler had himself.
See, many of the SS leaders had served in World War I, and they had not adjusted back to civilian life,
at all. And others were just dickheads like Heinrich Himmler. Himmler, therefore, chose men
who otherwise would not have been able to hold positions of real power. Like, say, make it a podcast
host, the deputy director of the FBI. And it was the elevation that created the loyalty that
Himmler needed so badly. I also think it serves as a function when somebody doesn't know quite
what they're doing and they're put in a really perilous situation that requires a lot of
attention. And then you can get quite a lot out of that person. Yeah, you can. So you kill it?
Yeah.
More until they
something bad happens to them.
Yeah, or they self-destruct.
Yeah.
Now, while it sounds like the SS was nobody's idea of a good or even tolerable time,
Himmler's ideas were attractive to a lot of young Germans.
So when Himmler took control of the SS in 1929, he commanded only 280 men.
By 1932, though, the SS numbered 30,000.
Fuck.
280 to 30,000.
In three years.
This is entirely under Heinrich Kimmer's control.
Hard worker.
They had specialist departments.
They had administration, training, discipline, intelligence.
But even though Himmler was extremely important within the party itself,
he somewhat operated outside of everyone else.
Heinrich Kimler and Adolf Hitler never built an intimate relationship with each other,
like say, Hitler and Gerbils or Hitler and Goering.
Those guys, they all stayed over at each other's houses,
had big Nazi slumber parties all the time.
Oh, that's so cute.
Very cute.
Doing makeup and playing, like, that dating game with the phone.
Yeah, who do you have that's mystery date?
Yeah, it's a mystery date.
Yeah, let's go to the mall.
In the rainbow game?
You know, when they all wear different kinds of lipstick.
But Himmler was always sort of the cheese that stood alone.
Instead, Himmler made connections with everyone around Hitler,
which kept his name in good standing with the furor,
and it kept Himmler out of Hitler's crosshairs when something went wrong.
This also kept Himmler in the perfect.
position to scavenge power when a fellow Nazi fucked up.
And the perfect position to scavenge power for even if Hitler fucks up.
Yes.
Because then you're right not, you're not right next to him when that man eventually goes
down.
Well, Hitler's the ultimate carcass.
Like, that's the big one that he's waiting for.
Oh, yeah.
And as it turned out, Himmler had back the right horse when he chose the Nazis, at least
when it came to power.
The party did not when it comes to like, the ideas.
Hanging out.
Yeah.
Yeah, creativity.
Yeah, the parties.
The Nazis did even better in the election of 1932, doubling their wins to 37.4% of the overall vote.
And that doesn't sound like a whole lot in our two-party system.
That's more than what Trump fucking won with.
That's like literally like the amount of people that abstained from the vote.
Yeah.
But that was a massive show of support from the people in a parliamentary system like Germany's.
As such, the day after those elections, both Rome's ever.
and Himmler's SS launched a series of bombings against Nazi opponents in the city of Konasburg.
Several elected communist officials were straight up murdered,
and socialist newspaper editors were injured in a campaign that had been masterminded by Heinrich Himmler himself.
But within the government, Himmler was simultaneously working alongside Hitler and the German vice-chancellor,
a sniveling little fucking weasel. He's one of history's great villains,
Franz von Poppin
His lack of cowardice is
His lack of strength
Is the exact reason why
He's like this is the thing
He's why Hitler got no power
He's the guy who he is the man who opened
The door for Hitler
Because together these three men
formulated a plan to fully integrate
The Nazis into government
Even though Franz von Poppin
knew that the Nazis were dangerous
He just thought that he was smarter
Well they also knew
That the Nazis wouldn't be able to
be the governmental body
that they need to be, right? Because that's the
other thing, too, is that when the Nazis come together
like, this is the type of thing
where they have to build a coalition government.
They have to build a government out. It's
very complicated. So, and these
guys don't have any administrative
experience at all.
And so these guys all think, like,
we'll just fucking, we're going to ride these Nazis
and then we're going to ditch them.
Yeah. Now, when they killed all these communists,
did they just replace them with Nazis?
No, they just, would they just die?
Everybody just died. It's all happening so fast.
Yeah, I mean, it does happen very, very fast.
Now, von Pappen was not the only conservative who believed he could use Hitler for his own purposes.
Everybody thought.
Everyone thought that they could use Hitler.
See, after the Great Depression, the Nazis became the most popular conservative alternative to the communist and social democratic parties.
And the capitalist conservatives of Germany wanted to do anything to keep the left wing out.
So, seeing how popular the Nazis were and thinking that Hitler was,
sort of a useful idiot, the conservatives began machinations to install Hitler as Germany's chancellor,
which was the highest position of power in Germany right under the president.
They think, all right, we get Hitler in there.
We can ride this fucker until the wheels fall off just so long as we don't get anybody in government
that might actually, I don't know, tax us or like help people or anything like that.
Now, fuck that.
We want to keep all of our money.
Put Hitler in.
We can handle it.
Take a chancellor on Adolf Hitler.
Wow, you should have been there.
Yeah, when you're right, you're right.
Dude, they needed you then.
Oh, my God, if they had just let one Jew and you have been the perfect one for Hitler.
God, he needed you.
To the detriment of the entire world, those machinations became a reality in January of 1933.
When Adolf Hitler, having never actually been elected to office, was appointed Chancellor of Germany under the elderly, barely cognizant president, Paul von Hendenberg.
Oh, that's what a great name, right?
Yes, I know, I know.
But also, I will say, this is one of those things where I don't, we can't get into the nuts and bolts of how it happened,
but just understand that the, they all negotiated a way to create a coalition government.
They needed the Nazis to create a coalition conservative government.
And there was involved all these guys negotiating.
And one of the, the final negotiating point was like, okay, we just give him the chance.
He was like a co-chancellor.
Right.
Isn't the thing that was like him and Van Pappen, kind of?
They were like, well, he's just in there nominally.
It's very complicated, but yeah, but they didn't, but they did, the point is that they all thought that they could control him.
Yeah.
And von Hindenberg at this point, he's in his 80s, he's fucking barely there.
And he's also very tired.
Yeah, and they're all telling him that the other parties are going to destroy the concept of the aristocracy and they're going to pull these things.
And he's like, I can't have that happen.
And then he also was having problems with war outside of Germany.
and they said, what if we give you the stormtroopers as German soldiers?
And so he was like, all right.
Now, when Hitler was made chancellor, his man, Herman Goring, was immediately placed in charge of the police forces.
Goring ordered about 35,000 S.A. and SS men to supplement the Nazi actions to come.
And in short order, massive acts of violence and terror became the norm, where leftists were murdered by Nazis on mass.
And then, in the midst of the chaos, came the Reichstag fire.
On February 27, 1933, the German parliament, aka the Reichstag, was engulfed in flames,
burn in half the building down. The blame, conveniently, was placed on a Dutch communist named
Marinas van der Luba. Now, Hitler immediately declared that the fire had been a communist conspiracy,
where leftists had been working in tandem to destroy all of Germany. In reality, though,
Marinas van der Luba was a half-witted bricklayer who simply had a passion for arson.
and by all evidence and accounts
acted alone.
This is a big question I had
that I actually didn't understand
and I guess for a long time
we keep saying this idea
that the Reichstag fire
was this inside job
but I guess it really wasn't
right?
It wasn't it wasn't it was both.
It was twisted.
It was it was spun.
Well it was taken advantage of
I just didn't know
it was like one of those
where I was like
I always assumed that my head
that the Reichstag fire
was an inside job
but now it just seems like
he did just happen to set fire
to the Reichstag
And then he's like, great.
Well, kind of sort of.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, yeah.
I mean, who knows?
I don't know.
I mean, I was about to say.
Yeah.
I'm about to tell you.
I just didn't realize that lube was flammable.
You got to go fast enough.
Well, all Luba had to start this massive fire was his own shirt.
But half the Reichstag was on fire within just two minutes.
And expert witnesses testified that the fire was ignited by vast amounts of chemicals
gasoline. Maybe the shirt was made out polyester.
Well, what actually happened was that days before, some Nazis had overheard Luba in a bar
bragging that he was going to set fire to several public buildings, and the Reichstag
was next in line. So, seizing the opportunity, the Nazis set the Reichstag on fire themselves.
Then they used Luba, and by extension, all communists as scapegoats.
So it's both. Luba did start the fire.
but the Nazis helped and they made it bigger and large far bigger and far larger than it was going to be if Louva would have done it on his own so they're kind of like the great white yeah I was just surprised that Nazis would lie yeah right now the Reichstag fire was truly the beginning of the end for Germany Hitler pressured the ailing President von hindenburg into declaring a state of emergency to quote unquote protect the people because the
the communists were out of control, and the people let it happen because they believed Hitler's
lies about the danger that leftists posed. Again, Hitler was telling everybody that the leftists
are coming for you. They're going to destroy us all. They're here to destroy the country.
So you need to give me all of the power so I can protect you against the leftists. And the Nazis
claimed that they had found documents, which those documents have never been seen. But the Nazis
said that the communists were planning to burn down government buildings,
museums and mansions, women and children were going to be executed, and the communists were not
going to stop until every wealthy German was dead. Well, thank God they stopped those communists.
Using President von Hindenburg's powers, Hitler suspended all constitutional civil liberties the day
after the Reichstag fire, which meant that anyone could be arrested without trial. This was
very good news for Heinrich Himmler and the brand new prison he'd just built outside of
hometown of Munich.
History knows this pit of despair
as Daqau, the first
concentration camp. And that's
where we'll pick back up next week for
part three of our series
on Heinrich Himmler. I got a question
about the Daqau episode.
Can I skip it?
No, buddy.
You got to check it out, buddy.
Yeah. The fun thing is, is that
it's not even going to be the worst one.
Not even close.
Yeah, dude.
Cool.
That one was for, um, actually Newark.
What a fucking script, dude.
They're really fucking good.
We're really, uh, I think it's good history.
And we're going to go.
I hope so.
I'm also going to tell you this right now.
We're going farther than the other series that went a certain distance about Heinrich
Himmler.
We're going farther and longer.
We're going to be covering the entire life and crimes of Heinrich Himmler throughout the
entire Reich, and we're going to be covering his untimely death.
You're right good or not.
Oh, yeah.
And this is a, this is important.
And also, we're going to keep having fun with it.
And, uh, just go out there.
And, uh, the next time you see, if you see anything like standing next to a Nazi flag
or have it a Nazi flag, throw us up at them.
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Julie Rosen. I just had a really good time
with your wife yesterday. What the fuck?
What were you doing with my wife? Had a wonderful
time with your wife yesterday. The fuck you're talking
about? You know, I just entertained her.
Yeah? Yeah. All right. Maybe I'll
have a nice time with your wife. Maybe you would.
See, that sounds kind of nice.
Maybe I will.
No, we actually, we're filming Hoopagoo, part two.
That's right.
It's a lot of fun.
You got to, but we're having a fucking.
That was a blast, that was a show.
Hail soon.
Hail Natalie.
Wow.
Yeah, I hail your wife.
Okay.
Yeah, you hear that?
Okay.
Oh, hell, do you talk to my.
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, you want.
Take it back.
Nope.
Take it back.
I can't.
I can't.
None of this is going to end well.
Love your wife.
Ha ha ha ha ha.