Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 640: Heinrich Himmler Part IV - From Atlantis to Auschwitz

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

This week, the boys dive deep into Heinrich Himmler’s deranged Ahnenerbe - the SS’s “research institute” dedicated to proving Aryan supremacy through archaeology, mythology, and pure pseudosci...ence. From Karl Wiligut, the self-proclaimed prophet of Nazi meth, to Hans Hörbiger’s absurd “World Ice Theory,” we take a look at how crackpot archaeology, stolen children, and state-sanctioned madness fueled the SS’s occult obsession - and set the stage for the unimaginable horrors to come. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to. This is the last hot task. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. Who was that? Oh, yeah! Oh, today. I just want to say, before we even begin, thank you to Voton.
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Starting point is 00:00:43 at all is unified with anything. So Voton is really does not enjoy the whole pageantry of the other racial monsters that show up to create him. Ah, yes. Yes, but Voton what up. Thanks again for making me pink. It's nice to be on your planet
Starting point is 00:01:00 earth and man, oh man, I sure hope you put another Christ out there for us to destroy as a puppet of your unwillingness to sacrifice yourself. Well, once Greta becomes a man, she will be that Christ. Oh, Greta,
Starting point is 00:01:15 my sweet Votan's bride. Welcome to the last podcast on the left. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with Votan's number one boy, Henry Zabrowski. That's me. I'm looking for all the greatness in every rock that might look like an ox. That's a deep cut.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We'll talk about what that means. I know exactly what you mean. I don't. And with us, the man who knows nothing, Ed Larson. That's right. I'm Voton's 420th man. Yeah, Boket 20. Taylor Swift is definitely Hitler's grandniece, right?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, who are great grandniece. There's no way she's not. She's selling new SS necklaces. Is she? Have you seen this thing? I have not. She took them off her website. They're lightning bolt necklaces.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Two double lightning bolt necklaces. They're next to each other. Uh-huh. Yeah. People are upset about it. It's an eight-pointed star and lightning bolt necklace. Himmler would have so many notes for this necklace that, to be honest, I think Taylor Swift should be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's loose. I don't think it is. I definitely think it's a mistake. But, man, you got to check your notes. No, exactly. Himmler would look at this and be like, how about the doubles them up?
Starting point is 00:02:36 I mean, I'm willing to bet that the person who designed this was far more inspired by Bowie than Himmler. But looking at it, holy shit, it looks like Nazi jewelry. It looks, that looks like something that's like in the German museum in the bad section. The only thing that we just can count on is the lack of education of the zoomers. And that's what has led to this.
Starting point is 00:03:00 So here we are. So Heinrich Himmler, Part 4. Woo. So when we last left Heinrich Himmler, the year was 1934, and everything was very unfortunately going Himmler's way. Everything's coming up, Himmler. You'll be swell. You'll be great.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I got the whole Reich on my plate. That's fun. Starten here, sottin now, honey. Every Jew's cow did. The concentration camps were becoming an essential feature of the Third Reich. Those were, of course, Henry Kimmer's creation. The Gestapo was under Himmler's direct command. That's the German secret police.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And the night of the long knives had both destroyed any internal opposition within the Nazi party, and it had tricked the German people into thinking that the Nazi chaos had passed. And so, with Germany firmly in Nazi control, Heinrich Kimler and the rest of the war, of the Nazis were free to reshape the country in their own image without opposition, using a framework that was directly inspired by the pseudo-scientific and
Starting point is 00:04:08 pseudo-historical authors that Himmler and Hitler had loved so much. So if they were doing it in Himmler's image, it would be a cabbage patch doll with half a shaved head. Yes, it would look like a hungover worm. Well, according
Starting point is 00:04:26 to the Nazi leaders, very selective reading of history, only one race fit into the category of the so-called founders of culture. These founders were the entirely fictional creation of various fever-brained German racists. They were the tall, willowy, flaxen-haired Aryans of Northern Europe. But going off those feverish fictional accounts, Hitler and his ilk believed that only the Aryans had the genius necessary to create civilization and its byproducts, like music, literature, agriculture, architecture. It was the Aryans, according to the Nazis,
Starting point is 00:04:59 who had single-handedly advanced all of humankind with their unparalleled brilliance. And then honestly really kind of speaks to the fact that I left several one-star reviews on every single The Weekan album because it never featured a tuba. And I don't really know what music is without a tuba. That's all they have is tuba.
Starting point is 00:05:18 This is also... And the accordion. And the accordion. You also... Beautiful noises. You see, you say selective reading. I'm actually now my last little jump into this whole fun world of this ideology. It's more of a...
Starting point is 00:05:37 And I hate to say this, Marcus. They were lying about a lot of stuff. They made up a lot of things, Marcus. They saw stuff on walls and cave walls and just kind of said it was Giannarians versus the Jews, whoever, whatever it was. Yeah. If you think that Aryans built the fucking pyramids. Yeah, dude, without SPF 100? Now, Heinrichimler, of course, believed in the Aryan myth as well.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But the difference between Himmler and Hitler is that Adolf Hitler's belief in all this shit was more surface level. Hitler liked these ideas because they were useful for his ultimate goal of restarting the Great War. So the details didn't really matter. In fact, for Hitler, the details could be kind of embarrassing. Oh, yeah. Because guess what the details found out? It's all brown people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Every single thing you wished white people did. It was done by brown people first. Yeah. And all of the details of the cosmology and all the details of, you know, Atlantis and all that. Like, Hitler has to go and, like, hang out with the king of Italy and impress him as a commoner. And he doesn't want to carry all this baggage. And also, did you know, we're from Atlantis? That's great, right?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. All right, I had flippers. Yeah. You know how I had flippers? presence and they were taken from me. It is crazy because Atlantis famously failed. Yeah, well, that's the thing, is that there's a reason why Atlantis failed, and it's a big part of the Holocaust. Himmler, however, as opposed to Hitler, he was all about the details.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And his deep, unassailable belief in the myths created by the aforementioned Volkish movement, they informed his every decision. inspired by these beliefs Heinrich Kimler used his main guys the SS as a sort of peachy dish to game out a lot of the ideas put forth by his favorite right-wing pseudoscientists and pseudo-historians this was all in service to expanding
Starting point is 00:07:35 his long-held fantasies in which Germany was destined to grow into a race of purebred Aryan warrior farmers who would eventually rule the globe This fucking Bible fan fiction is so annoying honestly it's beyond that it's way beyond the bible it's too jewish yeah bible's way too jewish yeah
Starting point is 00:07:57 i mean there is definitely some things that they take from the bible like the great flood is a really big part of it like the antediluvian shit like that's a very big part of it do you want me to get into positive christianity oh no it's a whole thing we'll figure honestly it's not this episode it's a later episode unfortunately now hemler's never ending obsession with racial purity was especially on display in the way that he developed the SS, and it actually prevented him from making the SS as large of an organization as it could have been. After Himmler took on a fair amount of Ernst Rome's S.A. men after the night of the long knives, Himmler purged the SS of some 60,000 men for not being Aryan enough, which brought the ranks of the SS down to what
Starting point is 00:08:42 Himmler believed was an elite group of 200,000 Aryans. Now, these men were expected to be first and foremost Aryan perfection when it came to surface level looks because Himmler was obsessed with surrounding himself with beautiful blonde young men who met his very fussy standards big pink nipple
Starting point is 00:09:03 golden you ever seen I don't like the small nipples on the man I think that Aryan should have the big puffy nipples like beautiful German breasts have you ever seen blonde pubs no right
Starting point is 00:09:18 that's how you're know you're Aryan. If you have blonde pubs, like literally, like, like, not to be like this, Marilyn Monroe in your pants, and it's going to, like, it's so hard. If your pubs have a sheen and a bounce to them, your Aryan material all the way, baby. Die them. Shave them. If you shave them, they come back different every time.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But these men in the SS were also expected to be physically fit. This was merely an extension of the overall Nazi milieu. because physical fitness had become a nationwide obsession. If you go a little bit through more like, you know, the Volk, like lifestyle, did you ever hear about the paintings of Fidus? I did not. The paintings of Fidus hung in many, many rural German, like, homes. And it was one of those proto-super racist things that now we know is a massive dog whistle.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like, if you had it in your home, you would eventually become a Nazi ostensibly. Sure. And Fidus loved painting naked German boys. worshipping the sun. And so it's this idea of a free-flowing, blonde-locked naked boy being a caressed, his buttocks, his tender buttocks,
Starting point is 00:10:29 his little pre-bubescent penis and balls being caressed by the light of the sun. This really has nothing to do with what I just said. But it's about this idea of physical fitness. Sure. Yes. This is all of the taking it back to the homeland,
Starting point is 00:10:43 the pure body, the pure body of the German man, the German person was just like he was taught and he And he jumped from tree to tree. Yes. And Goring showed that with his physical fatness. Yes. Well, that's what was ironic about all of this.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's because the Germans were obsessed with health and obsessed with physical fitness and obsessed with presenting this ideal body. It's ironic when you consider the physical shape of the Nazi leaders. Hitler was dumpy and disheveled. Gerbils was a fucking living skeleton. And Goring, he looked like a fucking pig that had been turned into a human by a witch's curse. Unfortunately, I'm becoming a bit of a goring head. And he, what a fashion sense, though. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Wow. When he wore that periwinkle blue suit for all those Nazis, wow, you must have been, that's bravery. He looked like Otho and beer juice. Yes. I never realized that. So did they ever get all the generals together and tell them they were too fat? No. No, they never had the balls.
Starting point is 00:11:42 No, they never did. The Heinrich Himmler was, of course, no different from the rest of the Nazi leaders in his lack of physical fitness. Himmler was a nerd, a bookworm, but he nevertheless tried to keep up with the jocks that made up the majority of the SS. See, Himmler had instituted strict physical requirements for SS members, and the SS officers who were at the top of their game could earn a special SS sports badge by completing a grueling physical routine. Himmler actually once tried to run the routine himself. Lift me up! Lift me up! Up to me, to my sides, officers.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Up the rope I go! But his pigeon-shaped reader's body performed so poorly that his assistants had to eventually just tell him that he met all the necessary standards, just so Himmler would stop humiliating himself. Because your boss is in front of you struggling to get through an obstacle course. You have to go like, Hynrich, Hynrich. And also, by the way, do you know what the English version of Heinrich is? Is Henry? Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh, I know. Oh, I know. Yeah. Hine. I'm like a please just cool it I'm stuck in this trash can And you know what Being stuck in the trash can
Starting point is 00:12:52 Is evade you vins a Brad Here you go I know I'm the meanest Nothing is a whole 5-4 Thank you It's like I'm just running
Starting point is 00:13:00 Trying to do it And everyone's like Hey uh You did it Yeah Hey You did it I can't believe
Starting point is 00:13:07 You completed it so fast This is what's great About not really Giving a shit About anything You'll take that As a win The Arian appearance
Starting point is 00:13:15 And physical fitness of the SS was merely the base requirements for Himmler's ultimate fantasy involving his men. But it must not be forgotten that the SS, even through all this goofy shit, they were some of the cruelest, most brutal people to ever walk this earth. See, Himmler envisioned the SS as a group of medieval knights who were both deeply religious and chivalrous, dedicated to the goals of conquest and conversion, men like the Knights of the Crusades. For his own part, Himmler was obsessed with being the leader of these two
Starting point is 00:13:45 Tonic Knights, the Grand Master. Do you not believe that there is part of this is a function of ruling over people that are, would be considered your physical superior? Perhaps. I actually sometimes wonder if that's a part of what you see, which is that Heinrich Himmler likes the power position of telling built, vicious men what to do, and then he gets a little extra hard being able to do that, and they can't do anything at him because he's the leader. Yeah, I mean, well, Heinrich Kimler always did want to project himself as this sort of manly man.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You know, he wanted to be amongst the tough boys in Germany. Like, when we talked in the first episode about the fencing, like we didn't quite get what it actually was, what fencing in Germany at the time actually was, what it involved. It's the dumbest shit you've ever seen. It's so incredibly stupid. I mean, it really just involves Germans cutting each other's faces. They slap each other with swords, with sharp and rapier. This is why at first we didn't bring it up because I thought it was just fencing. Like Olympic fencing.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yes, but then it turns out this style of fencing was entirely different and it was a shallow exercise in getting men face scars so that they can look tough later on, which is why so many Nazis had facial scars because they purposely got facial scars in their fencing schools in order to look scary. Oh, it's like when a rapper gets shot for cred. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. And during these fencing competitions, they would actually have, like, quote-unquote, competitions, they would actually have doctors on site to make the scars worse because they wanted to look tough. That's why so many Nazis are fucking covered in scars. Dude, have you seen, and then the doctor come in? I was watching footage of one of these actual old fights.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And then the doctors, the scariest man you've ever seen. Because he's covered in fencing scars. And he's coming up going like, yes, you get you, that's a rascal. He's like, do we, is there another guy? Do we have another, you have another doctor? His eyes like on backwards, you know? And he's just like, yeah, they're good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And so, yes, I do think there is definitely something with Himmler wanting to be considered a man. Like, he is the leader of the manly man without having to actually do any of the things that are required to actually be a, quote unquote, manly man. Because they're very hard and very dangerous. Yes. But concerning Himmler's fantasies, in the end, what night fantasy is? complete without an actual castle. So to complete the dream, Himmler found his camelot at a castle named Veverlsberg,
Starting point is 00:16:20 located in an out-of-the-way location in northwestern Germany. The foundations of Castle Velsberg dated back to the 14th century, but its isolation made it easy for Himmler to use slave labor from a nearby concentration camp to accomplish the incredible amount of remodeling that the place needed. After Himmler's vision was realized, he made Vvelsburg the place where he could truly let all of his occult fantasies run wild. Like, that's when I go to club met. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Lots of candles. Lots of sage. Weaverusburg is a, it's an interesting thing, because this is a thing that Nazis would do. The Nazis would take old buildings, and they would turn them into kind of like new strongholds. And then now we're also seeing the advent of like Albert Speer doing the giant religious style, like, this idea of we're going to live in eternity. Yeah. Because that's the key here is that the castle connects the Nazis to ancient times, but then the castle will stand, quote, unquote, forever to bring the Nazis into future times.
Starting point is 00:17:24 The thousand-year right. Yes. And so that's what all of this stuff's always about is building a thing that is so hard to destroy that it'll be there forever. Yeah, and they always put it on the top of a mountain, right? Like closer to God type of thing. Well, this one was already on one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's, a lot of it is building on the foundations of what's already there.
Starting point is 00:17:44 But Hitler's, his retreat, the Berghoff or something like, I think it's what it was called. Yeah, it was on top of a mountain as well. That's where all the Nazis would go to hang out and, you know, have their fun weekends together where nobody's to talk about Jews. Give us a break. Actually, well, no, they thought it was gauche to talk about the final solution when they were on vacation. Oh, I mean, yeah, it's work. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Live from your way. Now, Himmler's castle was run as a sort of monastery where privileged SS men, Himmler's top knights, so to speak, could use it for retreats. Unfortunately for the SS men, though, these retreats were all planned by Himmler, who would force his men to participate in weekends that were half larping and half pseudo-historical study. Oh, I hate when a nerd owns the timeshare. Right? We all got to go to school. I thought we were drinking Natty lights and finding horse. But I guess we don't have to do.
Starting point is 00:18:39 that I want to do, it's just, you know, I paid for it, you know. It's fine, you know, if the group doesn't want to, it's just, you know. That's absolutely fine. It just seems that it would be a total waste of the grail room. That's just fine. The things, Himmler did in the end create a perfect atmosphere
Starting point is 00:18:55 to make all of his bullshit seem real. In the remodel, Himmler had the entire castle complex adorned with runic designs that would set the mood. But the castle centerpiece was the grail room. See, Himmler and his followers were obsessed with King Arthur.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's not just an Indiana Jones thing. That shit was real. Can I also say why? It's because they considered them to be like the pinnacle of white people. Yeah. And so they assumed that the other pinnacle of white people, according to them, of the height of the dynasty of England and the UK, would be some has to connect to Nazis.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they looked up to the Brits in a way. In a way. The old white people, they looked up to the Celts. And it's about separating the medieval from the modern, you know, because they can always say, they can always kind of put a point, a stop point on anything and say, and that's the moment when the Jews took over, that country.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And that's a moment when the races became too mixed. And so they can pick a moment, whatever moment they want, and say everything before that was great and we love it, but that's a moment. No, I don't like that. Yeah, because they didn't like the fact that they had built a whole thing, that they were, that white aliens from space came down. fucked animals here and made Jewish people and black people. Like, that's kind of like
Starting point is 00:20:12 one of the big things. That was one of the big issues when Earth went wrong. Yeah. I mean, I agree. Well, Himmler's followers believed that the Holy Grail was a magical stone of light that had fallen from the jeweled headband
Starting point is 00:20:28 of an ancient sun god. If one were to merely look upon this stone Himmler believed, that man would live forever. The power of immortality. It's such a lazy way to become immortal. Hey, you want to be immortal? Look at this rock.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Cost you. The Himmler was counting on his assumption that the grail would be found once the war finally began. So he constructed a room in his castle with a large rock crystal in the center, illuminated from the bottom with electrical lights for effect. This would be where the grail would one day be kept and utilized by only the most select of SS men.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Vavelsberg will never reach full potential. And largely it's because of how the war turned out. But you also, we got to remember, every single time they do something like this, the reason why Himmler is doing this is not for now. It's for after. Yeah. This is for, this is supposed to be for after the war when Nazism has conquered everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And now this is the capital of Nazism. And today, Vavelsberg is one of the largest youth hostels in Europe, which means it's just full of people of every single race color and creed. Yeah, people just cornhole in each other and doing whippets. Since Himmler had, in effect, built a secret clubhouse for the SS, it was only logical that the clubhouse would be followed by all the rituals and accoutrement that go along with most secret societies. Because why are you doing it in the first place? You're not going to have the cool shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:52 It's a frat house. Yeah. Yeah. These trappings, of course, only about, well, I would actually say that the concentration camps are closer to frat houses than Vablesburg is. Like, Vavelsberg is more like... Would they have a lot of ice lusges? I did a lot of it. Did they have a yager?
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, yeah. They have a lot of Yeager for it. It was like I was talking about last week in Docow. Like there was the Fratboy atmosphere. That was the concentration caps. Vivalzburg was, I guess, more of a Bohemian Grove type thing.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, it was where you went to do very serious things. It was Vatican City. It was the heart of the holy part of the Nazi empire. Yeah, Vatican City. That would be a great comparison. Club 33. Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:35 To translate. Well, these trappings, the accoutrema, and the rituals, they only bound Himmler's men further to the SS, making them far more amenable to carrying out the atrocities that Hitler would ask them to commit in just a few short years. And as it goes with secret societies, it also gave the men in the lower ranks of the SS a goal to work towards. For example, every SS man with a membership number less than 2000
Starting point is 00:23:02 have been gifted a death's head ring by Himmler, which made them all feel very cool and very special. But if you joined after number 2000, you could earn a ring by becoming a leader in the SS. And earning that spot usually meant that you had done or were willing to do horrible shit. To further drive home that violence was at the heart of everything, Himmler also presented SS leaders
Starting point is 00:23:26 with ceremonial daggers every November 9th. My mom's birthday! Wow! Get a couple, and then two days before. Let's get her a dagger. Yeah! Day before my wedding anniversary as well. Cute.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Two days after Tutsi's birthday. We could do this all day. Cute. November 9th is also the anniversary of the founding of the SS. Wow. Happy birthday, Mom! I don't want to get her this year. And during the presentation, Himmler would say this.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I can far unused the sword of the SS. Never draw it without need. Never sheat it without honor. preserve your own honor as unconditionally as you are committed to respecting the honor of others and to act in chivalrously
Starting point is 00:24:15 to defend to the theft defenseless. Yeah. Means nothing. Yeah, yeah, because they don't defend the defense. It's all horseshit. He's saying a nightly thing to them to, again, this is all a part of an indoctrination process. Yeah, and this whole idea of like
Starting point is 00:24:31 you're defending the defenseless in Nazi ideology and the way the Nazis look at the world and the way they look at Germany is that they're all defenseless and that they've all been put upon and they've all been attacked for thousands upon thousands of years they have this persecution complex because it's the only way that works. Yeah, it's so contradictory because if they're defenseless
Starting point is 00:24:51 then why are they the master race? Well, the idea is they carry, it's holding the two in your hand. Part about fascism is that it does not have to make sense. Yeah. Also, I think I made some sense out of the rings. I'll tell you that much. First 2,000 get rings. He started, it was like, oh, shit, we're running out of rings. He's like, you got to do something special if you want to, you want to ring.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Let me see if I'm having you around, yeah. It's like merch. Maybe it's like beer coosies? The whole thing's merch. It is. It is. But concerning, you know, the whole mass, the thing that seems like it's a contradiction with the master race, it's not.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's actually, it's a feature of it. Because the idea, because the thing is about the Nazis, I think I said earlier, is like there is an engine. there's a motor within every Nazi and especially within Hitler and within Himmler is that, yes, we are the master race and we've got to do everything we can to get back on top because we've been knocked down. And those people over there, the Jews, they're so powerful that they have even managed to knock the master race down, but we got to get back up again and we got to do it as fast as we possibly can. We can never stop moving. We can never stop working towards that
Starting point is 00:25:59 goal. So yeah, feature. Now, Heinrich Kimler was obviously taking a lot of inspiration from the Crusades with his night fantasies, which the Crusades were a decidedly Christian undertaking. Yes. But that did not mean that Himmler was inspired by or was even tolerant of Christianity itself. In fact, just like fellow top Nazi Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Kimler absolutely despised Christianity. And we did talk a little bit about some. So, yes, there was obviously a lot of Christianity in Germany. And yes, Martin Luther came. from it. What we were trying to even talk about is the idea that what Germany had specifically was a bunch of nomadic cultures that all had their own set of folk beliefs mixed in with
Starting point is 00:26:41 whatever Christian stuff that's also sort of mixed in. Yes, there were Christian enclaves, but the heart of the Germanic people was kind of still this vaguely up for the, up for grabs, kind of. A lot of the Christian stuff failed and a lot of it succeeded. So it's really just where you found yourself, but you're also sitting next to all of these, like, magical, ancient Germanic things that you're supposed to then consider. Yeah. And I'm very well aware, of course, that, you know, Austria was a very Catholic country. Going to get to that later.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But if you listen to what I actually said, perhaps I can say it fucking again, is that the Germans did not take to Christianity as much as the others. The others. Yes. Like the Italians or the English. But that's what left the wide. This is why we're even talking about the occult angle of the Nazis again is because they took that gap and filled it. Because that was an extremely important part of the lore for the thing to last for 3,000 years.
Starting point is 00:27:41 The key here is that Nazism is supposed to last forever. When this is over, Nazism is supposed to, once Nazism hits the world, they believe the whole world is going to be so excited to accept Nazism. So they think that this is just the beginning of a new thing. they're building something it's the beginning of like the shit that people say like today and have even been saying for the last few decades is like you know what you're just thinking it I'm actually saying
Starting point is 00:28:07 it and that's what the Nazis think is that like once they think once they get to America they're like oh shit look at how racist America is they're going to love us once we get there like we just have to get through a few people who we have to get rid of the communists and the Jews and once we do that then America's the whole world's going to love it
Starting point is 00:28:23 yeah well Hemler's vision for the future of Germany was a completely de-christianized country that had ancient ties to both the lost continent of Atlantis and the mythical Tibetan civilization of Shambala. That is 100% true. Yep. These advanced civilization
Starting point is 00:28:39 similar believed have been destroyed or corrupted by the Jews and the Nazis were the only remnants of their bloodlines left. Because there's always white people in the Indian Ocean and there's always white people in the mountains of Tibet because they believe that during the flood that was the only high ground.
Starting point is 00:28:55 But that's the other thing too. You're also making you're making a logical fallacy here is that Arian does not necessarily equal white. Correct. In their view, Aryan does not necessarily mean white. But they're looking for white seeds. They're definitely looking for that. Yeah. They want it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Because I had to say that to get the Japanese on board. Sure. I guess. That's actually one of those things that I know very little about and we will one day do because they do feel like that's the whole, the Japanese side of it. I only know so much about it. I don't really know how everybody got in bed together.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, that's for another time. Yeah. But as to why that bloodline did not continue indefinitely, the bloodline from Atlantis and Tibet, Himmler partly blamed that on the Teutonic conversion from paganism to Christianity, which was considered by Himmler to be history's greatest sin. In his view, even though Charlemagne the Great had begun the First Reich with the founding of the Holy Roman Empire, Charlemagne's Christianity had prevented so-called Germanic virtues from unfolding to their full potential during the medieval age.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Now, Himmler was born and raised Catholic, but once he learned that Christianity had its origins in the Middle East and that Jesus was logically a dark-skinned Jewish man, Himmler chose the ideas of the Volkish pseudo-historians over his childhood faith. He didn't wait a little while, and then they would make Jesus into a Nordic Amorite that was a wizard that destroyed other rabbis. You could do that too. Yeah, that's all you got to do, buddy. Yeah, but Hamler was, Hamler, that's the thing. I will say this, principal. You can say nothing else about Henry Kimmerle, extraordinarily principled. Stuck to his gods. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And additionally, once Timler began forming his own internal morality, he found that the core tenets of actual Christianity, charity, charity, compassion, brotherhood, the equality in the eyes of God. These were completely antithetical to Nazi ideology in every way. This house chooses racial purity. This home embraces hyperborean qualities. Our Jesus is white. In Himmler's mind, there was no way to square Christianity with Nazism, because Himmler, as I said, was far too principled to use the Project 2025 method of ignoring or twisting anything in the Bible that was inconvenient to his own goals.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So instead of using mental gymnastics to fit Christianity into his own morality, Himmler adapted vulkish ideas to create a religion that, in the words of one author, sprang from the forests of Germany. under hemler's guidance Nazism would have a state religion and a god that had ideally been worshipped by the ancient tribal Germans
Starting point is 00:31:30 which is there wasn't one yeah it was all over the place that's what paganism is yeah now hemler was smart enough to know that he couldn't just come out and tell them in the SS like hey we're worshiping the sun now get with the fucking program everybody shut shot for playing volleyball that's like to do a new sports volleyball
Starting point is 00:31:48 yeah I mean remember like Zeno doesn't come into Scientology until your OT8. You can't start with the hard shit. You've got to be stuck on that line. So to slow roll first his men and eventually all of Germany into his new belief system, Himmler wrapped the rituals that he created in Christian clothing in order to wean the SS off their Christian faith. For example, Himmler believed that he could use sun worship to replace Christian rites like Easter and Christmas. For the summer, Himmler planned a solstice festival to celebrate life, while the winter would be marked with a similar solstice festival to Remember the dead and honor their ancestors.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's like playing a game of a child and they just keep changing the rules so they win. A lot of times that child can't send you to a concentration camp. What if it could? I know. Oh, don't tell me. Have you put a bunch of children together and told them they were in charge? The children would become Nazis. I know that they would.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Have you ever seen children on a playground in elementary school? You know, they actually do describe. when the pogroms first began in Germany and in Czechoslovakia they described the children as some of the most terrifying people around when it came to like they would like you would see
Starting point is 00:33:04 a pack of children chasing a Jewish man down the street so they could take it and they would like overtake him like fucking just like a bunch of fucking animals they overtaking like he and snap him they would have sticks and just beat him. I started watching a thing but I knew I wanted to wait till the end of the series
Starting point is 00:33:20 but she talks all about that, about the deprogramming of the children of Nazi Germany is actually very interesting. You couldn't just beat them? You know, that was the first go. But that's what led to it in the first place. That was how the Germans were so inured to violence was because they had been beaten their entire childhoods. And they were like, oh, your violence is fine. What if we put them in camps? But they're day camps and we do things like take canoes and they play javelin and they make, they make.
Starting point is 00:33:50 make friendship bracelets. The problem is the little thing called denotification. You can actually listen to our series of the No Dogs in Space series on Cannes for more on that. We actually went quite deep into denotification. Well yeah. But it's a, yeah, it's a whole thing. Now, once the ritual train got rolling,
Starting point is 00:34:06 Himmler drew upon his Catholic heritage to come up with a whole host of customs and practices that would replace the Christian rituals that surrounded birth, marriage, and death. These rituals were then forced upon Himmler's men in the SS who practiced them dutifully, and proudly.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Marriage ceremonies in Himmler's New Religion, for example, would start with quotes from Hitler's followed by quotes from Friedrich Nietzsche's thus spake Zarathustra
Starting point is 00:34:31 and a short speech from a local SS leader. Wow, that's so romantic. Oh, you think that's romantic. Did you not like it when I read the Power of the Will at your wedding?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Did you not like that when I read the student garden at your wedding? So Himmler's basically a comedy booker. Yeah, ha! This does. It looks like Joe List
Starting point is 00:34:49 if he didn't eat vegetables. Yeah, got his fucking ass. Got the poorest one, Eddie. You just roasted the porous one of that whole pack. Well, if you think all that's romantic, the bride and groom would then light a candle as a sign of the commencement of a new Germanic bloodline. That's why I did not do the candle ceremony, actually, in yours.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I was going to do it, and then I found it had some bad roots. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you for cross-referencing that. But at the end, instead of a kiss to seal the union, SS marriages would be marked with a hearty hand. I got to say, wife, it's been a great time, and I can't wait to kill some Jews with you. Put her there! I love you, Marga! Well, the handshake was to commit themselves.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It would commemorate a commitment to a shared life that worked solely towards the furtherance of the Nazi state. Once the handshake was done, the marriage ceremony ended with everyone present signing the SS Anthem of Loyalty. And if Heiner Kamler deemed the marriage important enough to attend, He would gift the couple a pair of silver goblets. Bory! So much merch. Mm-hmm. Now, once that newly wedded SS officer impregnated his wife in an act of functional Aryan sexual congress, the Nazi couple...
Starting point is 00:36:03 I can literally see me one of those where he has to put, like, the thermometer in her pussy to see if, like, if she's ovulating and stuff like that, you know? Oh, yeah. The Nazi couple would begin preparations for the inevitable birthing ceremony. Yay! Instead of a Christian baptism, a child would have a name consecration ceremony. at an altar draped in a swastika flag under a picture of Hitler in a room decorated with black SS flags
Starting point is 00:36:26 in Nordic ruins. Nothing says baby like rooms. The child would then be laid before the altar and those present would speak excerpts from Minkl aloud. Although the Nazis by this point, and actually this was a new piece of information for me, they had actually started working excerpts from Mine Kampf into song.
Starting point is 00:36:51 They had started making their own Nazi basically their own hymns. And once finished with the mind conf, whether it
Starting point is 00:36:57 was spoken or song. This is where Hermler should have come in because you've been like, oh, child, that's not how you sing a song. That's not how you sing a song,
Starting point is 00:37:07 you got to clap your hands down. Once finished with the mind conflph, the consecrator would say, we believe in the God of the universe and in the mission
Starting point is 00:37:19 of a German blood That grows eternally young From the German soil We believe in the nation The bearer of this blood And in the furor Whom God has given us Wow, that sounded just like
Starting point is 00:37:35 Praise music That sounded like Christian, that sounded like a Christian song Now you're praising the Lord Now you're singing, that's I like to get you Move your feet back and forth Find the rhythm of the bass drum then at long last Heinrich Kimler himself would step
Starting point is 00:37:52 in and present the baby with a silver cup and a silver spoon Here's your cup Here's your spoon Along with a large blue sash To commemorate the occasion If the kid was Jewish He'd be like what
Starting point is 00:38:02 No fork This is my We are sleeping I'm gonna hate to rice I'm just a spoon I don't like I have soup for every meal I would I also will see this
Starting point is 00:38:17 What kind of person do you think I just eat matzo bowl soup every meal? No, I have many different things. It's a varied and wide menu for the Jewish people. Jesus! The Himmler's hatred of Christianity and its brown origins were not his only motivation to create a Nazi religion. There was also, of course, his hatred of the Jews and the ever-important concept of Leibn's realm. Himmler, however, had very cleverly worked out a way to link these two things together. In fact, it was essential that he linked these two things together.
Starting point is 00:38:51 See, the Hamler, Hitler, and the rest. The Jewish people were the so-called destroyers of culture. Fuck, they are culture. I know. You have to understand. We know this. But Nazis do a thing. You have to remember it's, it seems vaguely familiar right now.
Starting point is 00:39:08 They say things that are opposite. They do it specifically. Think about joy division. Think about these things that they do to make you think you're doing something good. They call it something good, so you're saying good words. You're saying national socialist. You're saying these things that would make sense. They make sense in other concepts, in another context.
Starting point is 00:39:26 They remove the context, they change the context, and now you're a different person. Yeah, I just can't listen to that hippity hop music. Nope. Yeah, and the Nazis are also, and this is, you know, very much, I guess, or influenced by Himmler's just general way of being, is that the Nazis, once they get into power, they become the arbiters of culture. They've become the ones who say what is culture and what isn't. Like there was even,
Starting point is 00:39:51 I think Gerbils put on like an exhibition that was a, what did he call it? Like, it was something, not deviant art, of course. Because Gerbils was the one taking all the deviant art and hoarding it and fucking doing all the shit. It was like Picasso and all those things, all the impressionists.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah, all the like Max Ernst. It was, yeah, I can't remember what it was. But yeah, they came in and they said, this is what culture is and this is what culture isn't. And it just so happened that a lot of the culture that they hated was created by Jewish people. Or people who were just fucking groovy. Well, they just assigned or they just decided they had too much Jew thought in them. Yes, that was also something that would be talked about. Well, the Jewish people were seen as the eternal foil to the Aryans. And the Nazis
Starting point is 00:40:34 believed that the sole aim of the Jews was to undermine and corrupt the culture of other races, simply because that was the nature of the Jew. In fact, the Nazis looked at the whole Jewish question from a natural perspective, which is extremely important to understand, because it allowed the Nazis to speak about the Jewish people in terms that they believed were reasonable. Nazis would very coldly and condescendingly say, you cannot blame a snake for being a snake. I think that you would use the word basilisk. But you would also not allow a snake to live in your home. Some people have lots of me. I know snake people. Well, if you were to say that, then they would say, well, if you were in a hotel and the bed was full of bedbugs,
Starting point is 00:41:14 you would not take a single bed bug and say this is a good bed bug. You would merely exterminate all the bedbugs. I just have a hard time trying to beg bugs. Now you're just arguing with me for the sake arguing. Well, no, I'm arguing with enough. Yeah. And I will say, like, since time has gone on,
Starting point is 00:41:31 there's plenty of people with swastikas that have snakes in their house. They two really seem to me together. They really do. No, now that you mention it. But the point is, is that they were trying to use nature as a way to say that all Jews were dangerous. You can't say this Jew is one of the good ones. You cannot take an individual one. They all must be eliminated because they are all fundamentally the same, just as all snakes are fundamentally the same. But the flip side of that is that the Nazis also
Starting point is 00:42:03 look themselves from a natural perspective and from an animalistic perspective. But once you make yourself an animal and you make everybody animals, you're very much prone to do some very awful shit to other people. Well, they also is having the veneer of civility. Every single time they have an opportunity is having this idea that we are having a civil science-based conversation about all things. Everything must be
Starting point is 00:42:24 and that's why when they say the destroyers of culture, we're the creators of culture, they're legitimately creating the culture. Like they are just saying they're doing the opposite. They're destroying the other culture and creating a new culture. What if the snake was uncircumcised?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Again, this is a, this is deeper, It's a longer conversation. We've got to get to episode seven. Now we're going seven episodes. Now, naturally, not everyone in Germany was comfortable with the whole exterminate the Jews thing.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So the Nazis did not embark upon the final solution immediately upon entering office. Instead, it was done in fits and starts throughout the 1930s, so as to not totally freak people out. And also, they're really, relatively, as far as, like, the population goes,
Starting point is 00:43:10 Jewish people made up, like, 1%, of the entire German population. So if they started disappearing little by little, people aren't really going to notice. See, even though Hitler had been saying in interviews as early as 1922 that he wanted to see the streets of Munich lined with the rotting corpses
Starting point is 00:43:25 of hang Jews, he said that... He's so funny. Yeah, it's such a funny bit. They love cleanliness, they love making things nice. It's because it's funny, it's comedy. He's just fucking... He's just rattling cages, man. Yeah, he's just rattling cages. Yeah, but there were many average Germans who didn't take him seriously.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Or they were at the very least willing to risk that Hitler was being serious if he gave them what they wanted. It's like how people who have half-supported Trump over the years have justified the awful things he said and done by claiming that Trump is just, quote-unquote, playing to his base. You're the base. And while these people aren't necessarily bad, they're ignoring the troublesome stuff because they're hoping that he's eventually going to get around to their wants and needs. Because they believe they're a part of a selected subclass that will be treated special by the authoritarian government. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And they don't understand that everybody, when everybody's a Nazi, everybody gets treated like a Nazi. Mm-hmm. And Germany worked much the same way during the 1930s in the lead up to World War II. But what the German people didn't know was that they were being deliberately slow-rolled into accepting the worst of the Nazi's goals, little by little. Now, by the mid-1930s, Heinrich Himmler had spent years' workshops. his ideas and beliefs within the SS. So in 1935, it seemed like Hitler felt like his beliefs were ready to be taken to a wider audience. See, besides just creating a new religion for Germany, Himmler wanted to create a whole new history. And this to me seems like the far more important
Starting point is 00:44:57 task when it came to getting the average German on board with concepts like Levens round, in which Germans would take the land of others as their own because it was their ancestral right. And it actually wasn't that too far off for what World War I was. And if Himmler could create an atmosphere within Germany in which he could twist the truth to create proof that the Germans had lived in a region prior to the current occupants, then he could make the Germans believe that they were totally justified in eliminating said occupants, people like the Jews, the Polish, or the Russians, kept getting bigger and bigger. And you had to create a fake past because the real past was that Germanic various tribes ran different cities. states in all this like very complicated like mountainous region and they all kind of believed in semi different things and then the spread of Christianity kind of half worked and it's kind
Starting point is 00:45:46 of all this big misogosh of stuff like it's there is no central culture and it also just wasn't that impressive no it's not they're they're mountain people they're just fucking they're just people they're they aren't I'm sorry Eddie I know that you were worried about this but Aryans are not the supermenches that we thought we were creating the whole world in their How dare you? I will say, all of the research and documentaries I've been watching and shit, Germany does look beautiful. It is.
Starting point is 00:46:17 It's a beautiful country. It's an absolutely gorgeous country. It really is. But we'll talk right now. It's actually a feature. It works in. It works into the mythology perfectly. Well, to replace Christianity and to justify the concept of Lieben's realm,
Starting point is 00:46:31 Heiner Kimmer founded an institution in 1935 with the goal of creating a new reality. for not just the SS, but for the German people at large. And Zen, the world! Mm-hmm. This institute was called the Annenerba, and Himmler founded it with himself as superintendent. Basically, the mission of the Ananerba was to find new evidence of the great deeds and accomplishments of the Germanic people,
Starting point is 00:46:54 evidence that had been sneakily hidden or destroyed by the Jews. This evidence would then be conveyed to the German people through the media, social events, and scientific conferences. The idea was that if the lie and the legend was told enough backed by pseudoscience and pseudo-history that felt right to the German people because that's very important. It has to feel right.
Starting point is 00:47:16 That's the key. That is the key. It has to feel right. And if it feels right, then the Germans would be far more amenable to all of the horrible shit that Himmler had planned. Unfortunately for millions, this turned out to be a very good bet on Himmler's part. Now, unlike Himmler's secret SS castle, the Ananerba was set up,
Starting point is 00:47:35 to be a respectable institute in the eyes of the German people. Its offices were in a nice villa in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Berlin, outfitted with all the latest technologies. You wanted it to look nice and legit. But Himmler also made sure that the Ananerba had that
Starting point is 00:47:49 mysterious occult edge that he added to almost everything, save for the concentration camps. The halls in the Ananerba offices were decorated with photos of arcane carved wooden symbols, and plaster casts of ancient run stones were scattered throughout
Starting point is 00:48:05 So staff members could consult them before making big decisions. Now, this makes it sound like the Ananaraba was just a bunch of cooks. But there were plenty of supposedly legitimate scholars who participated in Himmler's nonsense. Partly, these people participated because they were too scared not to. But some of them very much wanted Himmler's alternate history to be true. Because if it's all true, then everything can be excused. And everything can have an actual rationale instead of what seems. to be a giant maniacal
Starting point is 00:48:37 global madness that they are caught up in. Well, we're not even there yet. Oh, yeah. Like, that's the thing is it. Like, at this point... It's the beginning. It's just heating up.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah, it's bubbling. At this point, it's not about justification. At this point, it really is, and it cannot be stressed enough. It's about feeling better. Yeah. Because the German people feel like shit. They were butt hurt after what happened
Starting point is 00:48:57 in World War I. Super butt hurt. Yeah. And they wanted to not be butt hurt anymore. Yeah. After losing World War I and the Treaty of Versailles and all the things that came afterwards, everyone's feeling
Starting point is 00:49:05 real bad about themselves, and they, and what the German people want more than anything else to feel good about being German again. Yeah, they want to feel better. They should stop eating so many carbs and pork. Well, that's what we learned, Eddie, with that took emotional maturity for us. Well, to make all that happen, the staff of the Ananaraba wrote new histories of Germany that made people feel good about themselves, while erasing the histories that made people feel bad, which is the same fucking thing that's been happening across America for the last few years in our educational system. They went around looking for a German Stonehenge. Yeah. They were
Starting point is 00:49:36 obsessed with finding a German Stonehenge. Something like that. Because they loved Stonehenge. They did. Himmler loved Stonehenge and he was so jealous of Stonehenge and all he ever wanted was a German Stonehenge. So he sent out guys to go look for the German Stonehenge and so what they do? Every single time
Starting point is 00:49:52 they found a weird looking rock they would take a picture of it and say ancient white people put this here. Yeah. And they would go like, look at this rock. Obviously it's the shape of a lion. this was carved in stone by the ancient white people that used to live here and they're the only ones who ever would have done it even though it's just a rock yeah also you look at the pyramids you look at the stuff down in the Aztecs and the Mayans
Starting point is 00:50:13 white people had to do it yeah the stone edge kind of lame yeah apparently there ain't really much going on there because you know why but you can't sleep in it was because you know why it's because Jews in the next rain it rain sideways it's because Jews in the night came from the sky and knocked down the super complicated parts of Stonehenge, buddy. That's only the tip of Stonehenge, buddy. That's the buttonhead. That's the fucking penis top of Stonehenge dog.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Truth is the Jews built the pyramids. Yeah. What the fuck? Well, the Annerba, they had the assistance of the Gestapo, the German secret police, who would steal materials from universities and other institutions that would support either the creation of new history or the erasure of reality. Those in academia who refused to cooperate with the Gestapo risked being sent to the camps, while those who willingly participated in the Annenerba were often given high-ranking positions in the SS.
Starting point is 00:51:13 As far as those who refused went, Himmler would replace their positions in academia with SS officers. So the Nazi version of history could extend its tentacles into every aspect of education, from literature to the sciences. If it's not reality, we're going to make it a reality. Mm-hmm. Now, when it came to Hitler using the Ananerba to warp the past to fit his goals and beliefs, one of the biggest stretches concerned homosexuality. They loved it? Yeah, it was big there, and they liked every second of it? They did not. Oh, weird.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Well, as we said last episode, Himmler considered male homosexuality to be a blight on society because gay men didn't usually have kids. That was the whole reasoning behind it. And fatherhood was considered to be one of the most patriotic duties that a German man could perform, especially in not. see Germany because, you know, they'd lost a lot of people in the war, and they had to refill those population coffers somehow. Well, yeah, the idea was they were going to kill all those pesky people there in the first place, and they were
Starting point is 00:52:09 going to fill it with German people. And that required lots and lots of big German babies. Yep. But Hemler also truly believed that you could catch being gay. You can, buddy. Yeah. Oh, you can. And guess what? It's great. Yeah, it's a catcher smith. It looks great. It's
Starting point is 00:52:25 fucking awesome. Dude, suck dick. Don't ask questions. Move on. Mistake, move on. Oh, yeah. Hamler believed that male homosexuality was a communicable disease that would infect all of Germany if the Nazis didn't nip it in the bud. Coming from the capital of leather datties. Which I think is amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Berlin is literally where I saw the most human male ass on the street. Man, woo. Yeah, they're making up for time there. Very much so. And so, Hamler went to the Ananerba and told them to find historical or scientific evidence to support the persecution of gay men particularly. Nothing, of course, was found. But researchers did offer some speculation
Starting point is 00:53:06 that a group of Iron Age Germans had maybe once executed their fellow tribesmen for homosexuality one time. Now, that's thin gruel for evidence, but it was more than enough for Himmler. He expanded upon that speculation and announced that the Ananerba had found hard evidence
Starting point is 00:53:25 that ancient Germans had drowned homosexuals in swamps as a matter of course. Yeah. And we did it as an old-fashioned way by putting new bronze tint into the bottom of the swamps. And the gay men couldn't help themselves. They jumped in to find it. You know, they are, it, homosexuality didn't even really exist as a concept until, like, modern times. It literally was a, uh, Alexander the Great was homosexual. Yeah. And we are really, I mean, that's, yeah, they're wrong. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude, you're brave.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They're wrong. No, you're brave. No, you're brave. No, you're brave. Thank you. The Greeks were gay before God. Yeah, dude. The Greeks were so gay, they became Italian.
Starting point is 00:54:15 No, once Himmler's believed that... I doesn't mean anything. No, it doesn't. It means nothing at all because the Italians, I believe, are famously homophobic. I have no idea, dude. They just fucking, it was a patter. Yeah, uh-huh. It followed a patter.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Now, once Hemler's beliefs about homosexuality where, quote-unquote, confirmed, he began sending gay men to concentration camps where they were forced to wear the infamous pink triangle badges. It's really kind of hard now. You see that because, you're like, obviously, this very, very serious thing. And then we had that song.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Pink triangle on a sleigh. Well, I know that because of... Let me know the truth. Is that a real song? Let me know the truth. No, what this... But that's... Well, the pink triangle...
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'm dumb. lesbian. I quit. I quit the show. I'm done. But just like the LGBT people say he jumped right in baby!
Starting point is 00:55:11 But just like LGBT people today have been used as the vanguard for bigotry in this administration, gay men were actually among the first group to suffer Nazi human experimentation. This was all so the Nazis could see if they could turn gays
Starting point is 00:55:27 the Straits, and they did so through a variety of horrific methods, including, but not limited to chemical castration. Reportedly, 15,000 gay people were sent to concentration camps, and 60% of them either died there or were killed during the course of the experiments. Is that another track on that Weezer album? It's not. Not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:55:46 The song, because the gay people, like, they took the pink triangle, you know, is a thing of power, and then it's all about how he's an idiot, an idiot. Yes. It's an idiot. Yeah, I understand. Yeah. I'm doing a lesbian. Great.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well, Himmler put homosexuals, people with biological defects, and women who got abortions all in the same criminal category. They were all people who were actively working towards the destruction of Germany because they were not making more Aryans. Weaver puts them in the category of groovy cats. That must be destroyed. Arresting these people, Himmler said, was a preventative act. But most chillingly, Himmler made it very. very clear that this mission would never end. As Himmler put it, in public, thinking that all this would be over in years or even decades was, quote, reckless and erroneous. In other words,
Starting point is 00:56:38 just like it is today, would say these new leaks from the young Republicans where they're all talking about, I want to burn people, I want to gas people. That's just traditional funny stuff amongst kids. They are saying exactly what it is their planning and exactly what they believe out loud. It is, however, ultimately the responsibility of the average citizen to take these people at their word when they say it, as opposed to, say, sweeping it under the rug again because you're annoyed at how fucking expensive milk is. Get your priorities enough.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Nazis tell you exactly who they are and you need to listen. If you are, and I can't say this fucking strongly enough, if you have the strength to stand in front of a swastika-based flag and you need to think about that because swastikas are a no-go in the United States of America and I don't fucking give a fucking shit. What you think about it.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Man, I'm so sick of these interviews with the fucking guys from the South, calling them swastikers. Yeah, they don't. You know, people got swastikers all over the place. It's all, you know, this is a fun-looking ex. That's all they, da-da-da-da-da-all. They just think it's five pot stickers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Now, the Nazis had a thing for blood in both the metaphorical and literal senses. But under Himmler's direction, the Ananerba viewed Aryan blood as an actual magical elixir. And another example of Himmler getting an idea and telling the Ananerba to figure it out, he believed that the blood that flowed through his Aryan ancestors' veins was what had supplied them with their heightened powers of creativity and intelligence. Himmler, therefore, believed that if the Ananerba could somehow crack the code of synthesizing pure Aryan blood, then that blood could heal all illness, transform those of mixed blood into pure-blooded Aryans, and produce superior livestock. It's an all-in-one. You mean there's something that could finally make me?
Starting point is 00:58:26 white? Actually, I do believe that this, that was, the turning someone of mixed blood into pure Aryan blood, I think that's why Himmler wanted it so bad, because he knew deep down that he was not in any way Aryan. He did not have any Aryan features
Starting point is 00:58:42 whatsoever, and I think he thought that if he found his magic potion, he could drink it and he could somehow be that beautiful blonde boy that he wanted to fuck so bad. Can someone please Photoshop me an image of Heinrich Himmler taking the Aryan blood and turning him into a giant
Starting point is 00:58:58 titted, beautiful blonde Aryan woman with the mustache. Like if he could look like a beautiful, big-tid, like, beer wench like that. He's just like, oh, no, I use the wrong blood. And then all of a sudden, we had a Nazi Freaky Friday.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, actually, well... Do you want a man? Yeah, it's Freaky Friday meets weird science, meets zone of interest. Yeah, wow. Write it down. Pitched. Copyrighted.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Mailed it to myself. Done. Now, again, this sounds ridiculous. But in Himmler's eyes, the discovery of pure Aryan blood was one of the Third Reich's greatest works. And he recruited scientists, anthropologists, musicologists, zoologists, astronomers, doctors, and folklorists to try to make it happen. All the Aryan blood, though, is at the bottom of the ocean. Mm-hmm. If it's in Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:59:47 If you believed it. It's about synthesizing it. It's about figuring out what it is. First, you figure out what it is, and then you figure out how to make it. And Germans love synthesizers. They do. Fucking top shelf, bud. Top shelf.
Starting point is 01:00:01 They do. Now, Hemler's actions surrounding homosexuality and Aryan blood, these are just two examples of the corticopia of insane tasks that were undertaken by the Ananerba. They're also very much on the tamer side of things when you consider the Ananerba's logical conclusion. See, when the Allies finally raided the Ananerba offices in 1945, there were definitely a lot of questions like, hey, where do these skeletons and skulls come from? You guys have a lot of skeletons and skulls around. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah, it's kind of a thing here. You know, it's kind of a mode. It's like, where'd you get them? I inherited them from a man that I murdered. I've never heard of this place. Spirit Halloween. There was also quite a few questions about the Annen-Arabis correspondence with a so-called doctor working out of poll.
Starting point is 01:00:54 named Joseph Mangala. Mangala. But unfortunately... You don't like it? You know, it does rub me the wrong way a little bit. Oh, there's that smiling guy. That jack-o-lantern of a fuck. What was he doing?
Starting point is 01:01:15 Let's continue. But unfortunately, the full extent of the Ananerba's works are still a mystery. 961 volumes of Ananerba files survived the war, but this was only a fraction of what they had before they started burning files during the final Allied advance. That's how many files they had. That's how many files than not, and that really shows you the scope of the Ananerba, the scope of the Holocaust, scope of the concentration camps, the Gestapo, all of it, is that the Germans, there were so many Germans who could see the Russians coming,
Starting point is 01:01:49 could see the Americans coming. knew that the war was over and we're just constantly burning shit constantly trying to get rid of it and they didn't even come close to getting rid of all the evidence. Yes, well I actually feel like especially with the Ananerbao of all of them
Starting point is 01:02:03 to be honest, I think a lot of it was gobbledygook horseshit. Like I think most of it was them with various skulls because like one big project of the Ananerba was to go to Tibet and measure the skulls of every single Asian person that they met
Starting point is 01:02:17 because they were desperately looking for any form of Nordic sign inside of these cultures and they would go meet, which should have been, that's an interesting movie of the Nazis that went to Tibet and they said they earned the trust of the Tibetan people so much that they lived amongst them, ate with them, hung out. Some stayed. They literally fell in love with Tibet, but then they measured everybody's heads and they were so excited by these new people showing interest in them. They fed them. They gave them all these like celebrations that they went and they literally like made all these plaster casts of all these
Starting point is 01:02:48 different types of Asian people. Oh, they should do it should be called to bet your ass for all Nazis. Yeah, hilarious. Well, I mean, you have kind of half of the story
Starting point is 01:02:58 there is that, yeah, they did go and the Tibetans were like, oh, you love the swastika, we love the swastika. That's great, yeah, and then eventually like someone, eventually someone from like outside showed up and like, hey, what are you doing hanging out with Nazis?
Starting point is 01:03:12 And they're like, what are Nazis? Yeah, yeah, we're in Tibet. We're hanging out. They're fine. It's like, you know what they do, right? And then they told the Tibetans like all of the shit that the Nazis are like Okay so we need to stop hanging out with these guys
Starting point is 01:03:24 Now I was like yeah you should probably stop hanging out Yeah it's like Manson and the Beach Boys Yeah It's so funny though because they went And there's like how do you say like There's a teaching moment here guys Guys but guess what they found Nothing
Starting point is 01:03:38 Now while much of the more nefarious experiments Of the Ananerba were lost The work they did rewriting history was a matter of public record before the war even began. See, there were two big question marks when it came to buying the concept of a history in which the ancient Aryan Germans were the superior race. And I'm not even just talking about worldwide. I'm talking about just in Europe.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah, you're not talking about Africa or the Middle East. No, or South America. Those question marks were Rome and Greece. See, it was already well established that while the Romans were building the Coliseum, the Germanic tribes were struggling to make a piece of pottery that didn't look as if it was crafted by a very gifted child. And the Germanic tribes sorted at the thing where they burned, roamed down as it collapsed, and that led us to a little thing called the Dark Ages, which was a period
Starting point is 01:04:25 of time in which we don't know exactly how long it lasted, in which there was no communication across the country. So that was also kind of their fall in the way. The goths. A little bit. Well, oh, no, not the gout, the vandals. The vandals and all of the barbarian clans. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:04:41 With a sidestep all of these inconvenient truths, the Germans changed his. history itself by claiming that the accomplishments of Rome could be traced back through time immemorial to blonde-haired migrants from the north. It's got to be. Northern Europe. Yeah, it's got to be. Yeah. In northern Europe, the Nazis claimed, was too damp to properly cultivate
Starting point is 01:04:59 the genius of the Arias. Too wet. Too cold. Get me. I'm like that. I'm like that. I can't. I give me wet. I give me wet. Yeah. Yeah. I need to think. Anything. I need to try to think. Yeah. So the Aryans were forced to migrate to the Mediterranean, where the weather was better. And then once they got a little
Starting point is 01:05:13 sun, once they got a little bit of just like, oh, I got it so nice here. They founded Roman Greece. But the mixing of the races eventually diluted their Aryan blood, which is why the Romans and the Greeks were no longer Aryan. There were snowbirds.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. Permanent snowbirds. Yeah. See, white people just, they love to move and they go to all of it and they just love to help. So they go to places and they just help and that's what they do and then they just ran away. And it's not like being fucked out of existence. It's
Starting point is 01:05:45 Like, it just seems to be if every single time an Aryan tribe arrives and then fucks itself out of existence, maybe we need to learn something from that as well. Well, the argument, the Nazi counter argument to that is we have learned something, and that's something is we must kill every Jew on earth. Yikes! And that's why I say, oh, child, that's not what you're supposed to think, child. You need to have yourself a nice plate of pasta, child, you need to have yourself a nice plate of pasta, child, you needly. Well, but that, but seriously, that is the idea.
Starting point is 01:06:12 is like, this keeps happening again and again, and it will keep happening unless we kill all of them. Now, incredibly, the German people ate this shit up. As far as reasons go, one of the biggest motivators for believing all of this was that many Germans, like I said, desperately needed to feel better about themselves after the humiliation of losing the First World War. In some ways, many Germans lost their minds after World War I, just as many Americans were utterly broken by 9-11. And people stuck in this frame of mind will do and believe just about anything if it makes them feel better about their national humiliation. We all know somebody who was never right again after 9-11.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah, Matt Lauer. But the other side of why these people believed in the alternate histories was because the Nazis crammed all this shit down people's throats through propaganda and Nazi-controlled media. So-called historical articles that rebranded history, history through a Nazi lens were a regular feature in the official SS newspaper, SS Guidebook. As an aside, though, these Nazi newspapers were fascinating artifacts. According to one writer who studied SS Guidebook, it combined dime store pulp, hardcore political
Starting point is 01:07:27 doctrine, sexy photos of frowelines and swimsuits, quotes from Mind Kampf, and even a Dear Abbey-style column that offered tips to SS men who were looking for suitable Aryan brides. Have you thought of just taking them? You just needed them. You know, it's very interesting is that obviously they had a very good eye for marketing and tone. So one of the things they understood was
Starting point is 01:07:52 kind of keep it almost on an entertaining hyper-optimistic, like way, right? This idea of all these horrible things are happening. But when you are listening and talking and reading Nazi content, it's entertaining, positive. It's extremely positive. It's very like, and obviously it's talking about violence, but in
Starting point is 01:08:07 a positive way. It's like, it wants you get all like, were like gumbed up for it and once you could go. And then they also had the ability to completely cut off all the spigots of any other type of information coming in. You know, there's no internet. There's nothing coming. There's no way for you to know that this isn't really just an ever-pervasive reality necessarily.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And then they are starting to make stuff look really intense. Now, while Heinrich Kimler certainly had a lot of ideas, he did not create the foundation for all of these narratives. As we said in the first episode, many of these concepts came from books Himmler had read in his 20s. But as he gained more power in Germany, some of the authors of those books, and this is just, this is your dream,
Starting point is 01:08:45 they became Himmler's collaborators. He was like, oh, I was such a huge fan, and I can't believe I get to work with you, Mr. Willingott. Yeah, that is it. That'd be like if we got Schachter on the show. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, at such, when Himmler began rewriting history and science with the Annenerba, he included some of those writers.
Starting point is 01:09:03 And while there were some real crackpots in the Institute, none were more cracked than Carl Maria Willigut. Fucking Willigut. This fucking guy. Yeah. Born in 1866, Carl Maria Willigut,
Starting point is 01:09:17 where I guess it's Villegut. Villegut? Yeah, it was like, really good. Carl Maria really good. My name's Carl Really Good. How you doing? Oh, look at how happy is in his uniform? He does look like a good old boy.
Starting point is 01:09:30 He was a World War I veteran who claimed to have genealogical links to both the Norse god Thor and to a German tribal chief who had slaughtered three Roman legions in the year nine. Carl was also an occult author, who had been an early influence on Heiner Kimmler's own occult beliefs. But just like many people in Himmler's inner circle, Carl was also certifiably insane. Largely the craziest one. Yeah. After fighting on both the Italian and Eastern Fronts during World War I, Carl retired from military service after spending 40 years fighting for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Of course, after World War I, no more Austro-Hungarian Empire. you do then? You become bitter.
Starting point is 01:10:11 All my credits for this all-strong American Empire. And so he joined his local Austrian right-wing paramilitary group and became a violent, unpredictable alcoholic who always carried a loaded revolver. Carl was also a suspected incestuous pedophile who was so inappropriate with his
Starting point is 01:10:27 daughters that his wife had locks installed on their doors to keep Carl away. Hey, at least she did something. Yeah. At least there's that. Yeah, yeah. She could also, like, you know, stabbed him in the throat while he slept, but at least he put box on the doors. He's deady. He's also like Paul Atreides. Because he believed that he could see into the past. He believed that he had access to every single white person memory. And he was attached to a thing called the racial soul. And the racial soul was what the essentially, it's a collective unconscious only for white people. Yeah. And it's for white people history. And he could look into the past at any time and confirm anything that Himmler said because he could see it. These fat fucks, they just make up anything. make him sound cool.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah, yeah. Eventually, Carl became so out of control that his wife had him committed to an insane asylum sometime during the early to mid-1920s, where he told anyone who would listen that he had single-handedly defeated every communist there ever was.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And whilst committed... Good work, Carl! Well, whilst committed, Carl also obsessively collected pebbles and very small rocks, which he carried in his pockets at all times. In his room, Carl would polish and arrange these rocks, thousands of them, lined up in rows.
Starting point is 01:11:40 He would give each rock a representation. Like, that one's a snake. That one's an eagle. That one's a really big dick. Another times, he would give a stone a larger, more abstract meaning. Like, this stone represents the battle between the forces of light and darkness. Very important stone. Carl.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I fucking hate you. Shut up, Carl. Stop polishing your rocks. Obviously, if I was polishing them, I would be putting them in the camps. After a few years in the insane asylum, Carl was finally released in 1927. He was done. Yeah, and he immediately found himself drawn to the growing Volkish and Nazi movements. Wow!
Starting point is 01:12:19 There he found like minds and began calling himself Vice Thor, which just means wise Thor. I would love for anybody to go onto TikTok and take stills from hashtag TradWife content, make it black and white, and put it of pictures next to the Volkish movement, and tell me if you can see the difference. I really would like you to see if you could see the difference between the two of those. Within the Nazis, Carl found a group who would actually honor his request to be called Vice Thor. I mean, he kept insisting. Yep, that group was, of course, Himmler's SS. Always go where you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Yeah. But rather than just humor the old man, they encouraged his claims. Himmler and his SS men actually believed Carl when he said that he could channel ancient Nordic figures by entering seizure-like transits. I'm like, I'm pretty certain it was seizures. Yeah, yeah, it could have been. And they listened carefully when he would come out of those seizures and recite primeval adages, sayings, and proverbs. They claim to have received from the ancestors.
Starting point is 01:13:20 The Jew is like the rotten turnip. God, you're a wise thorn. It is always wrong in the wrong places. Also, this just shows. Never hang out with people that let you pick your own nickname. Ever. Ever. Never. Never. Never. Never. You can't tell anybody your minute. Like, oh, who does that bit? Isn't that Eddie Isard who does the bit about Sting? No, that Dana Carvey does it.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Dana Carvey. And like, okay, Gordon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was also a whole Seinfeld episode about it. Teabone. Yeah, T-Bone. And he gets nicknamed Coco. Well, again, all of this sounds ridiculous. But Carl Villegut attracted a large following in the Volkish German scene. And by 1933, he had become a friend. to none other than Heinrich Himmler,
Starting point is 01:14:08 who was somewhat of a villigut fanboy. Vizeghuthead. Carl would bring Kimler old books and manuscripts bound in pig leather. That, according to Carl's claims, contained all his accumulated occult knowledge. And the presports is if you're hungry, you can fry it.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love a book you can suck on. And it's the great thing. Is this how you keep the Jews from reading it? Yeah, I can't even touch you. They can't touch it. Using these books, And Carl's channeling techniques, Himmler and Carl made decisions as to where to place SS training camps and headquarters in locations that were most magically suitable, at least magically suitable, according to the ancestors.
Starting point is 01:14:49 You know what we are doing? Very important decisions were made based on Carl Villegod's seizures. We're also, we're discounting Hitler here because, yes, Hitler only had shallow belief systems and in any aspect. But Himmler also knew to pitch Hitler, you needed a full storyline. Like if you're going in there to pitch Adolf Hitler, you better come really ready to talk about the wise and wares of what you want to do. Because Hitler was like that. He did no work, but he wanted to know everything. So you'd show up and you'd need reasons.
Starting point is 01:15:25 So I think partially with Villagut, it gives again gravitas, the decisions we're making over here. Yeah, you got to know what's going to happen in season five. Little one. Yeah. And Himmler's other technique with Hitler that worked extraordinarily well is that Himler would go in and basically be him like Hitler's pitching post. Like he would go like he would wait until Hitler was very angry and then he would go in and he would let Hitler scream at him for hours upon hours on end.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And he would just take it and like yes, yes. And then finally. You are misunderstood. Yeah. They don't listen to you and they don't get you. Yeah. And then finally when Hitler got tired. himself out, that's when Himmler were going like, oh, hey, I got this idea.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And Hitler's like, Hitler's like, yeah, yeah, fucking, whatever. Fine, fine, get out of here. Just go. I'm tired. And it worked again and again and again, you know, and that also brought Hitler closer to Himmler. Himmler was his, me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Yeah. Yeah. Now, the problem with Carl Villegud and Heinrich Himler's working relationship is that while Himmler was a vivacious and excitable 33-year-old Nazi, Carl was already 66 and getting quite tired by the time. to start working together. So to keep Carl
Starting point is 01:16:35 going, Himmler supplied Carl with drugs. Now, we don't know exactly what Himmler gave Carl, but considering how just about everyone in Nazi Germany was on meth
Starting point is 01:16:44 during this time, Carl was probably gacked out of his skull. Yeah, he was able to do cartwheels and shit. Yeah, dude. That's the fucking shit, man. Getting that IV meth
Starting point is 01:16:54 when you're an old man, sign me up, dude. Winning, man. Well, the Nazis, it was a little pill. I can't remember what it was called. It was like pee
Starting point is 01:17:00 or something like that. But yeah, it was a little pill that was made, And everyone got it. That's how the Blitz Creek worked. Like, that's how they were able to blitzkrieg, France, because every single one of them were on meth and they didn't have to sleep.
Starting point is 01:17:11 And so they just went for days upon days on end. But then I was reading that Blitz book, and they talk about how then they burn out. Yeah. Then when the burnout hit, that's like when the Nazis started hardcore losing. Like, literally, watch an entire army get burnt out. Mm-hmm. It sucks, because they've taken all that meth. They would have loved being gay.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Right? Right. And then with the haircuts, too. The haircuts look like they look like every bear and weho. Well, likely hopped to the gills on speed, Carl claimed to channel ascended masters of the occult, just like Madame Blavatsky had claimed to do. In reality, Carl probably just stolen Blavatsky's act. Of course.
Starting point is 01:17:49 But as opposed to Blavatsky, Carl's ascended masters only had apocalyptic fissions, which made Himmler believe with even more fervor that the Nazis and specifically the SS needed to wipe the earth clean of all bad influence in advance of a few. future planet-wide catastrophe. Couldn't even wipe his own ass. You don't know. He might have loved wiping his ass. He was a rag on a stick, man.
Starting point is 01:18:14 While Carl was on Himmler's wavelength ideologically, Carl obviously did not have what you'd call an administrative mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's basically a rambling homeless man that smelled like a barn. He literally was this disgusting, rambling, insane old man. His family had abandoned him. Yes. Yeah, and Himmler just happened to find him hilarious.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Well, Himmler used him as like, it's his Rasputin. Yeah. It's his mysterious source of all his ancient knowledge that no one can really cryptically understand. Only Himmler can, and he's the only one who can translate to everybody. Also, when he stands next to him, he doesn't look as fat. Honestly. Yeah, Hamler has the fattest head of a skinny boy I've ever seen him alive. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It's just so incredibly weird. Yeah, he's got that Adam Scott head. Yeah. He's skinny, but he's like, but he's his. fat. That's the thing about Himmler. Like, he's got a little pouch. Yeah, it's called these in management. Yeah. Yeah, just out of shape. The Killsbury
Starting point is 01:19:10 doughboy. That's hilarious. Well, Carl Billy Gut was a great ideas guy. He didn't really have the wherewithal to actually run something like the Ananerba. And Himmler's duties with the rapidly expanding concentration camp system and the Gestapo
Starting point is 01:19:26 that was, all that was taken up quite a bit of his time in the mid to late 1930s. So, Hamler stepped down from his position, a superintendent of the Ananerba, and created the position a president for a 50-year-old pre-historian named Herman Verth, who, if you look at him, had the appearance of an old-timey scientist whose explosions constantly blew up in his face and covered him in soot. And that kind of gave him cred. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:49 He looks like somebody the daffy duck would chase after. Oh, look at that moustache. Yeah. God, he looks so chooky-faced. Yeah, he looks like a Confederate, like a confederate. Confederate soldier. I do, man. But I will say I'm really getting and having it up to here with these Nazis. Yeah. Yeah, they're
Starting point is 01:20:08 pain in the ass. Right from North Korea. Now, that's not to say that Herman Verst was not an ideas guy as well, because everyone in the Ananerba was, shall we say, full of ideas. Full of ideas. See, Herman was very much into the idea
Starting point is 01:20:24 of creating an Aryan religion, and he told Himmler that he had a treasure trove of ancient sacred texts written by the Nordic race. that Herman himself had, quote-unquote, discovered. Herman's motivations for creating the religion, however, were more in line with your average German. See, Herman had become disillusioned
Starting point is 01:20:42 with Western civilization as a whole after Germany lost World War I. Herman believed that civilization was spiraling towards an inevitable collapse, but he also believed that he could prevent this collapse if he, quote, recovered the truths of the past. To Herman, his work with the Annenerba was not just important but existential, and the fervor with which Herman spoke and wrote about ancient Aryans led people to call him the Hitler of German scientists, which is one hell of a nickname.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Hell yeah, you know what I'd say? You're the Hitler of Research Podcast. I don't want that nickname. I'm the Hitler of sideman comedy. Oh, yeah, and I just struggled in the bathroom. You're the Hitler of the downstairs shitter bathroom Because we have obviously As you know, downstairs is the shitting bathroom Upstairs is the pissing bathroom That's right man
Starting point is 01:21:41 Because it goes down Yep trickle-down effect It's closer to the river Do you think that Herman was trying to convince everyone Did you know that it used to be called harmony? Yeah I don't know Herman
Starting point is 01:21:57 Are you guys in As well, he used to be Hamann. Now, by the time Heinrich Kimler had established the Ananerba in the mid-1930s, Herman Verth's star was on the wing. He was nearly bankrupt and inching towards debtor's prison, so Himmler used SS funds to bail Herman out, thus creating another loyal man who owed Himmler his life. Now, Herman was partly hired to lead archaeological expeditions outside of Germany,
Starting point is 01:22:24 because any and all attempts made by Ananerba researchers to find evidence of past Aryan superiority within their own borders had only produced a lot of shitty Iron Age pottery. So, under Herman's guidance, the Ananerba began making expeditions all over the world, although Himmler was smart enough to give Herman orders that you do not discuss politics with anyone outside of Germany. So fascinating because it shows that he knew that there was a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Yes. But using Herman as his frontman, Himmler could fully explore his growing obsession with, Tibet. Now, Himmler's interest in Tibet was not original amongst a cultists who subscribed to the Aryan myth. As we mentioned, Madame Blavatsky had kicked off the idea that Aryans had originated in Tibet and countless other crackpots had run with it. As such, Himmler believed that the Aryan race had built an empire in Central Asia, the mythical Shambala. And using a particularly Nazi brand of circular reasoning, Himmler believed that the symbol of Aryan Shambala had to have been the swastika. It had to have been because it's
Starting point is 01:23:27 It's the here now. It's the swastaker. Yeah. You know that there's a shopskers up in Tibet. You know what's happening under the other, man? I don't use no brown sauce with my swastika. Oh, hey, you know what they say? Swattsker marks the spot.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Right right there is where I get my brought worst. Shambala was not a metaphor to Himmler, nor was it even a myth. He truly believed that Tibet was the last refuge of the Aryan root race, that they were still, even in the 1930s, Aryans tucked away somewhere in the Tibetan mountains. They are sitting there, they see a corken spieless, wondering where is the fatherland? So Himmler tasked Ananerba researchers
Starting point is 01:24:10 with finding these remaining original Aryans. Once found, the Nazi researchers were instructed to leave behind a radio transmitter so the Aryans could make contact with Berlin. And once the bond was established, the ancient Aryans could teach the Nazis how to mine substances to prolong their lives and how to build psychic conductors
Starting point is 01:24:28 to reach higher states of consciousness because volkish writers had told them that's what ancient Aryans knew how to do. I will say it's a big Hail Mary pass. It seems like that little trip's going to wrap up a lot of stuff. He's like, Zend wants to go, and so we get some machines, some we get the hidden elements and see Asia Mountains,
Starting point is 01:24:43 some of the super powerful set. They're good. We just got two dishes. We just need X, Y, Z to happen. And then we're good. If you go there, you go to, to bat. You find me a yodeling monk. Yeah, please. You find me as a man
Starting point is 01:25:00 stuck on a plateau with wooden shoes and he has no idea why he is there, white as hell. This expedition, however, almost didn't happen because the guy they put in charge of it accidentally shot and killed his wife during a duck hunting trip right before they set off. Sure. Yeah, I mean, tell me about it. I've heard that excuse nine times. Excuse me, Vive, could you put this duck on your head?
Starting point is 01:25:21 No. Okay, Lowa. The researcher, however, pulled himself together after eight weeks of grieving. They then set off for Tibet, but nothing, of course, was found. Now, Nazi theories about the past didn't stop with the creation of the races and where they originated. Nazis even had their own ideas about how the earth itself was formed, and amongst the Nazis, the most widely accepted creation story was the World Ice Theory. Now, the creator of the World Ice Theory was a man who was... Oh, it was an Anheuser-Busch?
Starting point is 01:25:51 No, it was not. He was a man who was regarded as a complete idiot by legitimate astronomers, and that is a quote. This man was an Austrian with the absolutely terrible name of Hans Horbigger. I'm Horbeer. My life's homes old, partner. Yeah, everything's cold at first. That's like a guy who... It's like a fat man who orders a prostitute.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I need my whorebigger. Obviously, more, to be frank, and more specifically, I need my... whore wider. Well, Horbaker had the reputation of being an idiot because he openly bragged that his world ice theory involved no actual math or science. Best part is this no thing to write
Starting point is 01:26:36 now. Because math and science were, quote, too Jewish and deceptive. What is the number four? Is it found in nature? What is the number seven? Is it found naturally amongst
Starting point is 01:26:52 the trees. I love it. There's becoming truth to Hitler on ice. As you can imagine, his theory was indeed moronic, but it did serve as an important piece of the history that Himmler was constructing with the Ananerba. Well, it's more rhyming doctrine
Starting point is 01:27:10 with the past. This idea that there is the Hyperborean island, right, there's Hyperborea, which is the icebound island that the mystical white people first sprung from, right, that went down, that we're Eastland. would be, right? So that's... Iceland, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And Iceland does not like the fact that Nazis retconned a lot of their lore. Well, yeah, they're taking the poetic edda and saying that, oh, this is actually the history of area. No, they don't enjoy that. They don't like that. They really don't enjoy that at all. Because the poetic edda is a beautiful work of literature. But they, yeah, they don't like it.
Starting point is 01:27:39 They just turn it into whatever they wanted it to. So these guys are all doing... So that's another rhyming thing to the ice world that they all came from. Well, basically, the world ice theory held that the earth had started with six moons made of ice. really taking this down to its basics. Yes, because this is just an anime. What you're describing. One by one, these moons were pulled down
Starting point is 01:28:00 to Earth through gravitational forces. We must defend the Earth from the forces on negativity. Yes. I am in charge of kissing. I have the energy of hugging. I have the energy of whistling. These caused incredible destruction and change each time. That's one of the things that they would say
Starting point is 01:28:18 about the Bible, one of the only true things about the Bible, is that the flood did happen. but it was because a moon made of ice fell into the ocean. But what was important to the Nazis... Did you know that the first Jews were snowmen? Yeah. But what was important to the Nazis was that the fifth moon had come down 11,000 years ago,
Starting point is 01:28:34 and it had been this moon that had destroyed Atlantis. Now, you might be saying that this totally negates their other belief that Atlantis was destroyed by the Jews. We talked about, I think, in episode one or two, yes. It was the Jews and the Slavs working together that had sunk the city or sunk the continent of Atlantis. Well, the space laser, melted the ice moon
Starting point is 01:28:53 I don't think you understand I actually don't think you understand that the first space lasers were natural from an invading Jewish star and that's where you're incorrect where the space lasers were then built by modern Jewish cabals in order to
Starting point is 01:29:12 compare to the ancient Jewish star that destroyed the six moons of white ice I'm so sorry thank you for the clarification you'll be right for pointing out those contradictions but an essential part of being a Nazi and an essential part of being a part of any fascist system
Starting point is 01:29:30 is that you had to be able to hold a lot of contradictory ideas in your head all at the same time while never questioning said contradictions see it's not necessarily about what is true as much as it's about what can be true just so long as what can be true constantly feeds back into the central ideas of the movement. Like, oh yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. And it just goes on and on and on and all just gets added up and until nothing is true. And everything is true at
Starting point is 01:30:01 the same time. You're also being, you're physically frightened. Yeah. And so you now know that to cut the physical fear of being inside of the fascist machine, you have to say yes. And that's just most of those things because everyone makes a big talk of when the Nazis come, you're going to fight. But actually, it's like very uncomfortable to fight them. Oh yeah. Because they send you to concentration camps. Well, it's not...
Starting point is 01:30:27 I mean, just think of it on a very human level. How many times have you been in a conversation with somebody and they say some really awful, off-the-wall shit? And you've got to laugh your way through it. And you have to laugh your way through it because you know that this... You know that the person you're talking to is violent and unstable. And if you say something or if you push back even a little bit,
Starting point is 01:30:44 they're going to beat you half to death. Yep. Yep. Everyone has done it in their life. I've done it multiple times. I do it several times a day. Yeah. And it usually starts with, I know dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Now, in keeping with fascist tradition, Horbigger and his Nazi followers doubled down. This horse too big. I need horse smaller now. They doubled down when actual scientists said that the world ice theory, also called glacial cosmology, was really fucking stupid. Instead of backing down,
Starting point is 01:31:16 Himmler sent a German novelist named Edmund Kiss to the Bolivian Andes to see if Edmund could prove the world ice theory and the only reason why he sent Kiss was because Kiss had written novels about Atlantis. Nothing, of course, was found. But that did not temper Himmler's admiration
Starting point is 01:31:37 of novelist Edmund Kiss. Himmler so loved Edmund's work that he actually had a special edition of one of Kiss's novels made with a leather cover and Himmler gave this special addition to Hitler himself as a Christmas gift. A Christmas gift, please. I must say this. Haini, only you get me.
Starting point is 01:31:58 I wish that you were perched young. Let's try this Aryan blood again to see if it makes you into my school to be wise. Please go look for the lost city valantis. Where? The top of a mountain. God is Himla gone? miss his fucking books every year and I don't want to fucking...
Starting point is 01:32:19 It's so long. It's for giving someone a fucking homework excitement. It's not... Is it I have to read it because if I don't read it, then he gets fucking butt hurt when he asks me about it in February. I thought he was this guy's guy but he gives me his gay shit like his reading fucking sex and I'm sick and tired of this fucking garbage and do something. Take me to a strip club. Do something fun
Starting point is 01:32:36 with me. I'm a man. We're men. We're men. Let's experiment. Have fun. We men have fun. Now, as the years went by and the German people became more and more inundated with the bullshit being spewed by Himmler's Annenerba, a large number of Germans came to believe that the old Norse myths were actually the secret history of the Aryan race. This is where they looked at, you know, Iceland's edda and said, oh, that's real.
Starting point is 01:33:01 That's us. Yeah. For example, the most fervent of Nazis thought that Thor's hammer, Mjolnar, was an actual thing that could be found and used, but Himmler believed it harder than anyone. And I know I'll be able to pick it up, just like when Captain America picked it up. But I can do it. I think I can do it. Himmler thought that the thunderbolt imagery
Starting point is 01:33:21 in ancient Norse art and literature was evidence of an ancient advanced weapon that could be recreated and wielded by the Nazis, a modern Mjolnir that was capable of unleashing the power of the gods. It was lightning. Yeah. That's what they were drawing.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Yeah. Was the lightning itself. Well, yeah. Because it was an impressive natural formation that they couldn't understand. We also use that as evidence that the ancient Aryans had electricity for everyone else. Lightning Diz come from the sky. It is electricity.
Starting point is 01:33:54 It's like, how can you be so evil and so annoying? Because that's, again, it's a feature. Now, the Ananerba's first president, Herman Verth, fell out of favor with Himmler in 1937, when Herman dared to make the suggestion that ancient Nordic civilizations were matriarchies ruled by priestesses. Oh, man, I can feel the tent. Ooh, that room. What did you say? This was a grave affront, because in Himmler's world, women were, in the words of one author, little more than compliant baby factories. That's what women were supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Yeah, if that. They could have made women just the uteruses they would have been very happy to. Yeah. And when these so-called dangerous ideas made their way to Hitler, Hitler publicly denounced the president of the Unanerba. I was just about to do that. Yeah. Luckily for Herman, though, he'd already done enough to prevent a trip to the camps. and he was instead busted down to a ceremonial position.
Starting point is 01:34:48 But as it was with Dachau, Herman's replacement, a man named Walter Vust, was far more dangerous. See, prior to joining the Nazi party, Vust was a professor who had become accustomed to teaching classes to handfuls of board students who were barely paying attention to what he was saying. But with the Nazis,
Starting point is 01:35:07 Vust found an incredibly motivated audience, so he jumped at the opportunity to mold the minds of thousands of men Himmler's SS, men who would then force those ideas upon the rest of Germany. It's really been a thing with men, huh? This idea of you just go where anybody will sing your praises no matter what it is that you do. There's something about that, the idea of, like, Nazism, the constant motif that constantly comes up is the mediocrity of the people involved, how when the Nazis came up, they created
Starting point is 01:35:38 a world in which they were venerated in the previous world, they were considered an idiot. Well, if you're, if you are considered mediocre, then what you do is you change the definition of mediocre. Well, that's what the Nazis did, because on the whole, they were entirely mediocre, as we could see. They can even just kind of come trying to come up with some fancy version of their past. You could tell that they were just some, they're just a normal group of people. They're just people. And it's just very, obviously it's a feature, but it just comes up a lot. Now, by 1937, the Ananerba had 38 full-time researchers, but not all of them were what you'd call respectable.
Starting point is 01:36:12 guys like Carl Maria Villegut were still knocking around the building Call me by my full name Maria My body's call me Maria Carl Maria Vista Villegut That's my name, that's my name Carl Maria Vista Villegut He also became the MC from Cabaret So Voltervost as the newly minted president
Starting point is 01:36:37 Got to work replacing crackpots like Carl With scholars who were actually respected in their fields This was a much worse thing than having cooks involved. Yes. But the catch that these very ambitious scholars had to deal with was that they had to be comfortable with bending or breaking the truth to fit the Nazi way of looking at the world. Tragically, this view was becoming quite a bit more popular by the late 1930s.
Starting point is 01:37:01 See, Hitler's reign since the night of the long knives had been rocky to say the least. But just like another modern leader I could name, Hitler always managed to pull himself out of a popularity slump with a big gesture. Whenever Hitler's popularity began flagging because of the chaos the Nazis caused or because the economy was in the shitter,
Starting point is 01:37:19 which it constantly was, Hitler always managed to produce a big foreign policy victory, something that made the average German feel good about themselves. But it was something he constructed. It wasn't something he actually, like, did, right? No, there was things he did.
Starting point is 01:37:33 There was very much things he did. But, yeah, but there was, I mean, usually all he had to do was violate something from the Versailles Treaty. That's kind of what I mean in terms of like He just constructs it in terms of it being like, oh, look at it. We're going to, we're going to fuck them. We're going to make a huge army no matter what the fuck they say.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Exactly. And regular people would be like, well, yeah, well, why wouldn't, why shouldn't we have an army? And even people in other countries would be like, yeah, yeah, we went too far with the Treaty of Versailles. Why shouldn't Germany have an army? Like, everybody's got an army. Why shouldn't Germany have one? And he used it wrong. Because their memory is fucking short.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Well, when Hitler did something like that, you know, like, for example, like he expanded the military, even though the Versailles Treaty prohibited the Germans from having a force larger than 100,000 men, when Hitler did something like that, even the Germans who didn't really like him would say the same shit that I've heard people say today again and again.
Starting point is 01:38:21 They say, like, I don't really like him or like there's things that he says, but he's getting stuff done. So like just stop being so fucking hysterical. It's like you got like Hitler derangement syndrome or something. Well, it's the, it's the belittling of the thing. I get it. You know, we're in very different set of circumstances than
Starting point is 01:38:37 Germany was at the time. But, you know, know, again, what we just said, it just, we should really be super on the ball about it getting even remotely close. Yeah, yeah. And when you just see the same, like, when you have like two or three things, coincidence, like 20 or 30 things, that's a comparison. And we're pointedly pointing them out just to show you that, again, it's not that the current administration is Nazis. No. They want to be Nazis. And that's an entirely something different. There's a different thing that we're dealing with. Even just one fucking thing needs to be stopped. Sure. Well, it's just, it's sort of the thing that we talk about, like, with cults, like, how over
Starting point is 01:39:16 and over again, you know, cult leaders somehow, like, instinctively know how to form a cult, how to control people. There's just something about it. And that's sort of what's happening again. They get the gears of a cult. They understand when to slow down, speed up, slow down, speed up. But they're just seeing, you know, people notice how humans respond to things. and if you're of a certain mind, then things will go in a certain way.
Starting point is 01:39:42 And this is what we're looking at now. It's like it's like minds doing the same thing. Yeah, but not Nazi Germany, but they are the worst. Correct. Now, under Volter Wust leadership, the Ananaraba doubled in size in just two years. They moved into a massive mansion in Berlin and increased the amount of staff and researchers dedicated to alternate histories and Nazi religion to just over 100. As far as who paid for all this, Himmler set up a foundation using taxpayer money, but the Ananerba also depended on donors, supposedly respectable corporations who wanted to stay on the Nazi's good side, just like today's corporations make donations to the current administration to Curry favor.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Or fire people in order to get their president to say hello, like, you know, to acknowledge them, which we've never dealt with before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or, you know, do what people in the administration say to do in order to get deals, you know, push through. But back in Nazi Germany These were big companies That gave money to the Ananerba Companies that still exist today For example, tens of thousands of Reichs marks Were donated to Ananerba Research
Starting point is 01:40:47 By BMW Oh yeah They made a bunch of the cars too Yeah One of the saddest things And a lot of I believe didn't BMW also make Like a ton of engines for the planes Or was that Mercedes-Benz?
Starting point is 01:40:58 I don't remember but one of the two God though it is just sad to watch Himmler Just driving those just Beautiful Mercedes Ben He's just driving around, and I'm just like, and you're like, ooh, it's a good whip. Seamins, right? Didn't they get involved with the Nazis too?
Starting point is 01:41:14 Probably. A lot of semen in there. Yeah. Well, the point of all this is that German society was accepting Heinrich Himmler's Ananerba as a respected establishment. Therefore, its ideas and theories were beginning to inform how Germans began to act. For example, Himmler published an article where he openly called upon the German race to preserve their heritage through violence, because that preservation
Starting point is 01:41:40 was so incredibly important you had to kill for it. And the people of Germany, after years of consuming anerba propaganda in the media, they were inclined to listen. In this article, Himmler fully acknowledged that his black-uniformed SS officers were causing fear and anxiety in every corner of Germany. But Himmler maintained that the SS was necessary. They were, quote, a merciless sort of justice that would guarantee the survival of future Germanic generations. They also were told amongst themselves. So the SS would be frightening in the front, but the SS would, the way he would lead them is to be like, when you go out, your frame of mind is your helping.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Yeah. When you arrive, you help. SS help people. We're helping the German people. We're helping people. We're reminding people. What makes you a good Aryan is by doing these things. you know and if they continually
Starting point is 01:42:35 could pair Jews to snakes why did they name them after something a snake says and that's why we still got fun to you around and it's always good to have this is right now dance
Starting point is 01:42:51 yeah yeah he did want to kill him but now every time he makes me chuckle I know he got six more days you keep this going and you'll be the talent in front of the showers. Concerning the survival of the German people,
Starting point is 01:43:09 Liebenzram was not the only Lieben, Himmler, was obsessed with. There was also the infamous Labensborn program, the so-called Fount of life. Fount! Founded in 1935, and inspired by the American Eugenics movement, this secret group had the goal of greatly increasing the number of children who met Himmler's exacting standards for racially pure and healthy Aryan boys and girls. You sure it's not the Labia's born? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:43:36 They got to trim them back and get the proper blonde curls. Unfortunately, yeah. They trim the lips because the curls actually form when the heads first out of the, for what the foyer, the vagina, the mudroom of the vagina. Hey, how you doing? Welcome to the roast beef curtain club. That's where I'm dancing at the Rose Beef Club. Amongst other duties, Labensborn, provided.
Starting point is 01:44:02 unmarried German women who became pregnant with assistance by moving them into maternity homes run by the SS. These women were, let's say, encouraged to give up their children to racially pure Aryan parents, often SS officers who would raise their children instead. In this same spirit, the SS also ran orphanages that would foster Aryan children out to, quote-unquote, worthy families. But these children were often not orphans. Many times these kids have been kidnapped, from their biological families, and quote-unquote, re-educated before being given over to an SS couple. And what, their parents would get sent to the camps because they hid somebody or something? Either because they hit someone, or they might have been communist, they might have been leftists.
Starting point is 01:44:45 They might have been just killed. They might have just not looked correct. Literally, they were a shame on their own child, and they just didn't want them there anymore. This happened a lot in Poland, you know, like it was, it happened a ton in Poland, actually. A lot of blondes in Poland. Yeah. How do they feel about redheads? Um, fine.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Yeah. It depends on where you're from. Yeah. It depends on where you're born. Actually, a lot of it is more about the shape of your skull than it is about the color of your hair. It's a lot of that. The exact, well, that's how you decide who's perfectly Aryan. Yeah, it's phrenology.
Starting point is 01:45:15 That's when you get into the real nuts and bolts of who was an SS officer. Yeah. Well, Leibn's born, however, did not just concern itself with births. They were also the only people in Germany who could legally perform abortions. They performed forced abortions on those. who were deemed unworthy of the Aryan race, while all other abortions in Nazi Germany were strictly illegal.
Starting point is 01:45:38 But on the more proactive side of the program, women who gave birth to the most Aryan children were given awards by the state, and in 1936, Himmler announced that every SS man would be given a special Nazi brooch to present to their wife after they gave birth.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Well, women be broaching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Women love a fucking brooch. When I want to fucking get my dick sucked, I know I come home from the brooch store. Woo! Yeah, man, I love hanging out my brooch. This attitude, however, got far more serious in October of 1939. Same is mine.
Starting point is 01:46:16 This is, of course, just before the Nazis invaded Poland. And this inspired Himmler to issue an order that all SS men had to conceive children before going into battle. But the strangest part of the Levensborn story, and I'm only saying this to avoid a flood of did you know emails, is that one member of the legendary pop group, Abba, was a Levensborn child, born to a Norwegian mother who had been impregnated by one of Hamler's loyal SS men. So we got that out of the way, right? And honestly, it's why, you know, Abba's pretty good. Abba's incredible. I'm actually a very big Abbott fan.
Starting point is 01:46:49 I love Abba. Ed, guess which one's the daughter of the Nazis? Is it the lady of top? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that lady with a mustache. They make them different in Stockholm. Now, one of the things that's essential to keep in mind is that almost every single thing that the Nazis were doing here,
Starting point is 01:47:08 from Labensborn to the Ananarba, it was all about either preparing the German people for war or making sure that there were plenty of people willing to fight and die in war. As such, at the same time that Himmler was managing Ananarba expeditions all over the world, he was also taking orders from Hitler to prepare his men in the SS for the inevitability of total war with the Western powers. Because at this point, Hitler's still, there's still a lot of people in the Vermach, the regular German army who are like, no, like no war. We can't win. We can't do it.
Starting point is 01:47:42 We just did this. Yeah, we just did. Well, it's, there's still a bunch of treaties and there's still like a bunch of tripwires. Like you invade this person, then you got both France and Britain on your ass. We can't beat them both at the same. And it's just, there's a lot of guys But Himmler is one of the guys That's like, yes, yes, war, war
Starting point is 01:47:59 Let's do it, let's do it, let's go I'll do anything And he knows it's going to take a lot of bodies Yeah, by March of 1938 Hitler was pressing for the invasion And annexation of Austria And Himmler never wanted to let an opportunity For a new outfit passing by
Starting point is 01:48:14 He got to work designing special gray SS uniforms To mark the occasion. Hey, you know, different seasons. You got to, you got to try it You got changed it up. Is there any reason for it? No, he just thought like, oh my God, it's going to be so cool. I want a new uniform.
Starting point is 01:48:29 To be honest? We can just be marching here with these black uniforms. Everybody's seen us in these so many times. Just get some great ones. LR.H understood this implicitly, and he understood this, which is the idea of you could make a loser feel amazing by putting them in an amazing uniform. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:45 And you can make them. And so what he did is like these are all, again, they seem, everybody talks about this. It seems very shallow and dumb, right? It seems very like, but no, it's all a part of the plan. When you give them a new uniform, it's a new ritual, it's a new re-up, it's a new commitment. Every single time you give them a new piece of merch and meth. Yes, literally, every single time you give them a new piece, it's a new, all right, I still like this. Yeah, I like this. Okay, new uniform, cool. Yeah. New boot goofing. But uniforms were not the only thing that Himmler had done to paved the way for Germany to invade and annex Austria, which of course was number one on Hitler's
Starting point is 01:49:25 to-do list in the coming conquest of Europe. First you take Austria, then you get Czechoslovakia, and then we'll talk about Poland. See, during the early 1930s, Austria was ruled by a chancellor with the incredibly ridiculous name of Engelbert Dolphus. And I really don't know if I can come up with a better roast other than he very much looks like a guy named Engelbert Dolphus. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's simple Jack. His eyes are uneven.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Oh, my God. It's fucking... Definitely looks easy to conquer. That's the character. That's I am Sam. Yeah, you just give him a box of yo-yo's and you're in. Oh, my God. It's Mickey Rooney from the Milky Life.
Starting point is 01:50:13 He looks like a man named Engelbert Dolphus. I can't say just... Whatever you're picturing, that's what he is. I wish you could see this picture, because this is the... voice you like my cat I got a new hat I dropped it on some feathers yeah that some gum on it
Starting point is 01:50:29 he literally has a feathered his cap because he only eats macaroni I got a little sticky stuff on my head there's a feather on it it's like my handsome bird God he looks like tiny sloth hominates inglebird you can call me by my friends
Starting point is 01:50:47 call me Englebird No wonder Hitler didn't want to be Austrian. No, Hitler wanted to be German, more than anything. That's probably why he wanted to take over Austria first, because that was his hometown. Yeah, it was where he was from. Well, Hitler... Wait, you happens when Taylor Swift takes over Kansas City. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Well, Hitler was born on the border of Austria and Germany, on the Austrian side. His father was a border agent. So Hitler had always seen himself as racially German, even though he was Austrian. you know but he also like he never could shake the Austrian thing either like that would you know they always said they called him a jumped up corporal like really what they would say who's a jumped up Austrian corporal what's he doing here in Germany so Hitler very much had the motivation to take Austria because if he took Austria then he's not Austrian anymore he's German because Austria is now a part of Germany I find it interesting all these people like
Starting point is 01:51:40 wake up and they're like I'm not Aryan but I feel Aryan yeah like it's this idea of like but I I should be, though, right? Well, that's what I mean. It's all about what feels right. And that's what this entire episode is about. It's the theme of this episode. It's like, whatever feels right, that's what the truth is, and that's what we're going to run with, no matter what happens. Truth groovy.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Yeah. Now, Engelbert Dulfus was doing some real weird shit in Austria's leader. Yeah, I bet. He'd been inspired by Italian fascism to form a kind of Catholic corporatist movement, where the Catholic Church had control over both the government and Austria's businesses. This alliance, Dolphus believed, between the Catholic Church and Austria could be used to resist the Nazis because he did actually, in fact, hate the Nazis. But little did Dolphus know that Heinrich Himmler was making plans to take him down without taking down Austria as a whole. See, it's long been debated how much the Austrian people really wanted to
Starting point is 01:52:38 be a part of Germany, because we've all seen the newsreels of Hitler rolling into Austria through throngs of adoring crowds. You have women throwing flowers. People are crying. But this was actually a Nazi tactic. It's a sort of pufferfish move, where they would use intimidation, threats, and propaganda to give the impression that far more people
Starting point is 01:52:58 supported the Nazi party than they really did, which made the people who didn't support them feel like resistance was hopeless, which it wasn't, and it isn't. And again, it was much easier to do that stuff without the internet. The internet shows you, right? because, like, you know, how many times we, you know, I don't want to keep bringing it up. But now we have the Internet that can actually show you the truth of what someone's saying. And it's just hard because now it's about whack-a-mole, right?
Starting point is 01:53:22 It's all about constantly fighting it with misinformation. But we at least know you can see the truth on the Internet if you'd like to. Yeah, you can see how many people showed up to the birthday parade. Yes, if you'd like to. But even though the annexation of Austria was ultimately accomplished without warfare, it was not done bloodlessly. See, regardless of how many average Austrians wanted Nazi rule, Austria did have a sizable Nazi population.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Through the SS, Heiner Kimler had been supplying weapons and dynamite to the Austrian Nazis so they could engage in a campaign of terror by blowing up railways, power stations, and government buildings. And that's not to mention the straight-up murder of Austrians who supported Chancellor Engelbert Dolphus. But while Engelbert Dolphus was feeling reasonably secure, Yeah, I got a good new seat I got a new dock on my door
Starting point is 01:54:14 But the problem is that keep a getting to lock it Because sometimes I locked it from the inside And then I kick it out And I'd climb out the window Don't do the Nazis about that though Look at this fucking man Look at this fucking moron It looks like someone's holding ice cream in front of him
Starting point is 01:54:33 You're weak, but all you just give that to me? Why are you not eating it? You give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. But Engelbert Dolphus didn't know about a concept that has in the years since been referred to as working towards the furor. And this is a very important concept with the Nazis. A very fascinating concept.
Starting point is 01:54:55 So as I said in the last episode, it really can't be stressed enough how incredibly lazy Hitler actually was. And I'm not just talking about lazy intellectually. He didn't want to read briefings, and he'd rather just read his newspapers all day. Hitler slept till noon almost every day. That's the life. Yeah. Motherfucker slept through D-Day. It's boring.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Because nobody wanted to wake him up to tell him, hey, the Allies have invaded France. We need to get our shit together. That was something that he should have known. Well, it's because the office culture was toxic. Yes. I never knew that, that Hitler slept through D-Day. He did. He was actually...
Starting point is 01:55:33 He was up in the Berghoff, and he was on vacation in his retreat. And, you know, the Allies landed on the beaches of Normandy, and Hitler was here. And they're like, well, we can't wake him up. Don't wake him up because he's going to be really grumpy. He's going to be really mad if you wake him up. And then when he woke up, he went like, they told him, and he were like, it's fine. And then walked away. Didn't they know we were coming?
Starting point is 01:56:01 No, absolutely not. That was it. We won all that. That's actually, I love the story of that. It's for another podcast. It's a military history podcast. Yeah. But it's actually very interesting because we got them good. We got them good. They had no idea. It was a complete and total surprise. It was one of the greatest. There's a reason why there's millions of books and TV shows and movies made about it. It's one of the time. Yeah. That really is. The thing is about Hitler's laziness is that it greatly informed how the Nazi party worked.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Since Hitler was so lazy, Nazis oftentimes, took matters into their own hands and did things that they thought Hitler would want Don, working towards the Fuhrer, as it were. And it's very likely that the Austrian Nazis were working towards the Fuhrer in the years prior to the invasion. In July of 1934, a relatively small group of Austrian Nazis, like seven or eight guys, they stormed the Austin Chancellery and shot Engelbert Dolphus to death during an attempted coup. You guys here to take me to the park?
Starting point is 01:57:02 Hey, what you got to do? You got us to look all angry, right? You all say to play baseball or something? Go-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-k-g-k-k-k-k! Do you say there's chocolate in this tube? Yeah, wrap your lips around it. You just suck on it? Well, the coup, of course, failed.
Starting point is 01:57:18 But, after Dolphus was killed, Hitler ordered the Nazi leaders to accelerate the German war machine to full production because Hitler could feel that the time for war was approaching. That was 1934. By 1935, Hitler had... Hitler expanded the size of the German army to half a million men in the aforementioned defiance of the Treaty of Versailles, which, in theory, should have been stopped by the other great powers of Europe. But since they were still traumatized by World War I, Britain and France merely grumbled, and they did not act.
Starting point is 01:57:49 They also did not act when Germany moved troops to the French border, again in violation of the Treaty of Versailles. Now, Hitler would have absolutely backed down, and he would have been humiliated if France would have moved just one unit, in opposition. The Nazi troops were actually under orders from Hitler himself to retreat if this happened. But again, France did not act. They didn't take it. They were like seriously. They didn't take them seriously. Well, no, they didn't. It's not that they didn't take them seriously is that they didn't want to do anything that could bring them even an inch closer to returning to the war. Then that was what was all about is that they did not want in any world to return to the trenches and what they had just gone through. Everyone remembered it. And every one remembered it. And every
Starting point is 01:58:31 and hated it. And similarly, the governments of Europe, again, huffed and puffed when Hitler annexed Austria, but nothing meaningful was done to stop him. In fact, England all but facilitated Germany's subsequent annexation of Czechoslovakia in September of 1938 with the Munich Agreement and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's
Starting point is 01:58:49 now infamous proclamation of Peace for all time. When he got, you know, you know him at the fucking airport holding up the piece of paper, like he just averted everything. Yeah, because he gave. Hitler allowed, he basically said we won't do anything. Yeah. Maybe he was talking about peace as in piece of paper.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Peace of our time. It took two hours of my time to receive this worthless piece of paper. What all this added up to is that Hitler was starting to see that nobody was going to stop him. He could rearm Germany. He could amass troops on Germany's borders. He could
Starting point is 01:59:23 annex countries. He could do anything he wanted to the German people and the rest of the world would do little more than give him a stern tut-tut. This is, of course, very good news for Heinrich Himmler, who was waiting in the wings with the rest of the SS for the inevitable invasion of Poland, where Laban's realm would finally be put into practice. And to ensure that Eastern Europe was well and truly cleared of all so-called undesirables, Heinrich Himmler would deploy, perhaps, the most evil group of men to ever walk
Starting point is 01:59:55 this earth. They called them the Einzatzgruppen, and it's with their incredibly harrowing story that will continue our series next week. Man. It's crazy that they took over Austria and Czechoslovakia and no one cared. But when they went in the poll and everyone's like all right, this is too much. Well,
Starting point is 02:00:15 there's military reasons. Yeah. Well, I know, but Austria and Czechoslovakia are probably like, what? No one gets the fuck about us? Well, I mean, with Austria like there was, like I said, like they said like, okay, fine, we'll do it because Austria thought like, okay, we're going to be a part of Germany. But what
Starting point is 02:00:31 Austria didn't realize was that what the real motivation for annexing Austria was and for annexing Czechoslovakia resources because the German economy is in the shitter. They don't have the resources. They need the, you know, they need food from Austria. They need Czechoslovakia's factories. Like they need these things. So they say like, yeah, yeah, you're going to be a part of Germany. And then once, you know, Austria is in, you know, in Germany and part of Germany for, you know, like, really just within a few months, they're like, oh, no, shit, we're not a part of this at all. We're, we are subjects to these Nazis. Like, we're here, we're a fucking feedback. We're not a part of this at all.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Fuck me. This is a really bad idea. Did they turn a lot of them into soldiers, too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And killed a lot of them, too. Yeah. Just know that whenever a Nazi offers you a job.
Starting point is 02:01:26 It's not going to be stable. Unless you're a horse. Unless you're a horse. And then you better get bigger. Truly, because if you look at a lot of administrations, right, it was recently, for no reason, I was reading about Pol Pot, just to laugh. And that was only five years. And this was only a certain period of time. So just don't know these guys burn out.
Starting point is 02:01:43 They do burn out. Just remember that little Nazis out there. Your job is safe with the Nazis because they're going to defy you too. And then when they come for you, they're going to be just as mean to you as all. the other people you were mean to as well. The Thousand-Year Reich lasted 12 years. Yep. And we're still talking about it. And the last few years
Starting point is 02:02:04 were quite awful. It's not like the last couple, like, it's not like 1943 to 1945. We're fine. Good. Yeah. There weren't like fun times to be in, I don't know, Dresden. Oh yeah. Same thing when you go to Cambodia.
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Starting point is 02:02:55 Instagram and all that stuff to see fun clips from the show and to see where we're going to be playing next year to see all of our dates. Eddie, let him know what's happening. Tomorrow we're in Oakland. Fuck yeah. So come fucking party, Oakland. We are ready for your goddamn asses. I love sweet, sweet Oakland. Come on now. Yeah, man. Bring me some goddamn food too, you piece of shit. And then November 29th, we're going to be in Akron, Ohio, December 12th and 13th, Portland, Oregon. January 31st, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, February 28th, Austin, Texas, March 13th, Indianapolis, Indiana, and April 25th, Cincinnati, Ohio.
Starting point is 02:03:32 I can't wait for all you nasty natties to come out and see me. May 29th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan, July 17th, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and July 18th, Oklahoma City. And also, I got to say, Henry and I are doing the Crime Wave cruise in a couple weeks, and I added shows in Florida before and after. So on November 2nd, I'm going to be in Miami. And on November 8th, I'm going to be in Orlando doing the Disney show again. Dead Men Tell Some Tales.
Starting point is 02:04:03 So go find tickets to that. And that's a great show. On Editunes. Except I want there being able to be Walt Disney, so you won't be Disney this time. Unless I fucking make you record a bunch. We'll see. We shall see. Go on YouTube, LPN TV, someplace underneath.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Forward Report, No Dogs of Space, all those shows. can I please let me go sleep Yes this time I go to bed You're going to the camp Ha ha ha ha ha Hale Satan
Starting point is 02:04:31 Good life for one Oh, okay And hail Hell Waterloo I guess No no Hey
Starting point is 02:04:38 We're not with them I'll give you a good one Hell Sophie Shull and the White Rose Sophie Shul and the White Rose Who are they? Amazing punk band That are out of
Starting point is 02:04:48 Bristol Connecticut We might talk about here in a couple episodes. The resistance movement within Germany was a teenage girl beheaded by Heinrich Kempler. Oh, see, now I'm not going to have anything to Hail next episode.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Oh, yeah. Well, that'll probably be episode six. Hale Kamazi, Washington. Yeah, he's great. Yeah. I love Kamasi.

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