Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 644: The Battersea Poltergeist Part II - Ghost Writer
Episode Date: November 28, 2025This week in Part II, the Battersea Poltergeist escalates by burning bedsheets, literally killing Grandma Ethel, and claiming to be everything from an Extraterrestrial to a Hollywood heartthrob. As Ha...rold Chibbet spirals into a years-long hunt for Donald’s “true identity,” the Hitchings family faces off with flying furniture, mysterious knocks, and a long-term poltergeist deep in an identity crisis. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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There's no place to escape to.
This is the last hot task.
On the left.
That's when the cannibalism started.
Who's that?
Oh, shit!
Hi, up on the shore.
Oh, it can't be Irish.
You're Irish again.
Oh, fuck.
But it's kind of like an Irish.
I was listening to Shirley talk this morning.
The lady.
The British, like the batter sea of the London accent.
Man, when I, there was an interview with her with Shirley about the new podcast,
because I didn't know that there was a big extensive podcast.
Yeah, it's about three years ago.
And I looked at it.
And, you know, really, there doesn't really come to any specific conclusions,
except for the fact in the end, like Shirley was like,
a ghost will reel all along.
You know what I mean?
But when they cut to her talking,
on this, this is like from, I guess, three years ago
on this morning television show,
she's the ghost.
Now, currently?
Yes, British people turn into ghosts
while they're alive.
Oh, yeah, at age like 44, I believe.
Something happens where one day,
she was a young girl, and then she was a woman,
and then all of a sudden,
when you turn into that,
I know that ghost was coming,
you have a specific fear of old people,
though you and Jackie both I mean it's fear yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a fear yeah you have
true you you were both truly afraid of old people you're disturbed by them they're
easy to fight it's the weird you know it is it's loose faces they pose you no threat
there's something about them I don't like them yeah I don't like them they
they make you uneasy they do and I think I take a pad of paper from an old
person it'll ruin their month I know I think that's the problem is that there's so
many of them on hair triggers yeah hair triggers
But to think once the trigger is pulled, what happens?
Nothing.
Sometimes they take a plane down.
I don't know, man.
It's just like, you could take their socks and they'll die.
Welcome to the last podcast on the left.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks.
I'm here with the elder phobic Henry Zabrowski.
I would say that there's nothing that quite keeps me more together elementary as a female as my compression socks.
But because without him, I would explode.
And we also have the man who has a million ways to kill Grandma.
It's Ed Larson.
Oh, yeah, you know, one thing, slap her to death, you know, just put a pillow over her face.
Honestly, if you just shake a really old woman long enough.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, just remove the air conditioning.
That's only, that's the summer kill.
That's a summer kill.
Put it in on the winter.
That's a winter kill.
That could see some, like, new merch, like 1,0001 ways to get rid of Grandma with Ed Larson.
Slice him, dice him, drown them, gas them.
Oh, like, one of those, like, really, like, rectangle, horizontal books?
No, I know you've always wanted to write a joke book.
I really, I think this might be your joke book.
A thousand and one uses for a dead woman.
Dead old woman.
I'm sorry.
Dead old woman.
Please, thank you.
Because we want someone to live the full life.
Actually, let's be respectful.
And none of the ways uses are fucking.
No, none of them are fucking.
No, no, keep an door open.
You put a pencil sharpener in her ass.
That's number 98.
which is debatable as to how sexual it is.
Today we are on the Battersea Poultergeist
Part 2, the conclusion.
So when we last left the Battersea Poultergeist,
the spirit had taken the name of Donald
and had engaged in his first violent act
against the girl he detached himself to,
15-year-old Shirley Hitchings of London.
This was after the Hitchings family
had ignored Donald's repeated requests
to have specific reporters that Donald had called out by name
dropped by the house to talk to him.
And after the reporters didn't show up,
Donald the Poltergeist allegedly lit Shirley's bedsheets on fire
in the middle of the night.
And while it has been speculated that Shirley lit the fire herself,
investigators came up with nothing
when they tried to determine the fire's actual cause.
To me, this implies that there could have been something paranormal
behind the fire, something we don't understand.
But literally, of the term paranormal.
Yes, of the term paranormal.
paranormal. Yes, something we don't understand. I'm not saying that it is a ghost named Donald
who lit the fire. More just like the investigators couldn't figure out like any conventional reason
why the bedsheets set on fire. And, you know, that's the thing. I don't think that it's likely
that a 15-year-old girl in 1956 had the arson skills necessary to stump a hardened London fire
investigator. Because it's such a burnable city. It's very much a burnable city. Yeah. And they've just gone through,
all the time. They'd just gone through the blitz.
There's a lot of ways
for London to burn down. Also, I
think that this is a story. I talked about
it last week, but even further into
this side of the story, you begin to
see, it's obviously all around Shirley.
It follows her everywhere
she goes. And I think it's very easy
to say that it's a hoax.
I actually think it's the more middleway
conversation is the fact that we're seeing
an actual contained
psychic event mixed with
a creation of a tulpa, completely
accidentally by family in London.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, something closer to something between, yeah,
Kerry and Jeff the Talking Mongo's.
Yes.
Now, it seems like after the fire,
Donald resigned himself to the possibility
that no more reporters were coming.
So he had no choice but to begin...
Start blowing him himself.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
You're allowed.
So he had no choice
but to begin communicating
with the portly paranormal investigator
that was Harold Chibbett,
who, if you'll remember,
Harold Chibbett was the guy who named Donald
the poltergeist who writes
It's a fat name
Yeah, it is, it is, it's like
He don't Chibbocker
The Polder who sits
No
Interestingly though
Donald seemed to know his audience
When he and Chibbitt began communicating
See, in addition to being the founder
of a paranormal group called The Probe
Harold Chibbett was also a science fiction author
He was very interested in alien
So, while communicating, Donald sent a message that he would, quote, do harm to anyone who don't believe in flying saucers.
That's cool.
Who don't believe in flying saucers.
I guess you have to do harm to anyone who don't believe in foreign sources.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
Let me think about this.
I don't.
I believe.
Yay.
I figure out it's a double negative.
That's how they get you with that Michael Cain British ghost logic.
Well, Donald also claimed that he had knowledge of.
space travel. Knowledge that was unknown
to any human. This is the first time
I've ever heard of a poltergeist bringing aliens
into it. Go north.
Yeah. And he also had knowledge
of eight foot tall beings
who were living on no less than five
other planets in our solar system.
Oh, poor Chibich is going, oh
sorry, I just made another mess
in my britches. This is most fabulous
conflagration topics
I've ever heard. Is this turning into
space jam?
It might.
I think it's space jelly.
It's more space marmalade.
Base marmal, put it up my crumpets.
Angry.
But just as quickly as Donald had gotten friendly with Chibbitt, he switched back to threats of arson.
He claimed that he was going to set fire to Nan's bed, referring to Shirley's grandmother,
Ethel, and that everyone should get ready for fire.
And as it happened, on the evening of that threat, the family's stove repeatedly turned at
on and the stove kicking on by itself soon became a fairly regular occurrence in the
hitching's home. It wasn't a gas stove. It was an electric stove, but still, it could cause
fires. That's almost number one in poltergeist activity in terms of operating with fire and
operating a stove. Yeah, which I find interesting. I just dealt with this with the ghost in the
box in my home where I was told that obviously when we received the ghost, Jason, we knew that it would
have an issue with flame
and fire and that it would move things
that's what they said and I spoke
with Jason true it gave him a little gift
he gave him a joint and gave him some
alcohol because I knew he liked that in life
and then when I went
I was grilling and I was talking
with Jason and I had put
hamburgers out on the grill
with it fully going and then when I came
back out the grill was turned off
hmm really yes
you just run out of gas no
the dials were completely turned
Oh, maybe he was a cook, and he was mad you were burning the food.
I wasn't.
I had a timer.
Sounds like you were burning it.
I don't do that anymore.
Also, it's very difficult to cook hamburgers to temperature on a grill.
We all know this.
You're asking for a medium-rere-temperature burger at a fucking backyard barbecue, a leave.
Yeah, no, you definitely should.
I'm trying to wrap my head around this right now.
So, Harold Chibbitt is what it looks like to me.
Okay.
All right.
Harold Chibbitt is a fraud, but there's a real ghost in the house.
I don't believe that Harold Chibbitt is a fraud.
Harold Chibbett is a true believer.
He's not actually, I would put Harold Chibbett in the category of, you know, like the guys who were at the infield Poultergeist House.
Okay.
And the, but the, what's it, the rectory, the, the Borley Rectory.
Yeah, yeah.
Harold Chibbett is a true fucking believer.
In fact, he is such a believer that he's going to spend years of his life trying to find a way to tell the world that this is real.
Yeah, he's he is a true believer to a fault
Okay
And it's also a specific type of ghost investigation
In America we made it very agro
Right the idea of that it's some battle between these forces of good and evil
Yeah, they all got like tactical Vassad and shit
Yeah, like headlamps
It started with the Warrens like the Warrens made it started this like antagonistic style of ghost hunting
These guys really were more like I'd put like wildlife photographers yeah
Like, he wanted to just be there and witness because he believed that if we just categorize
all of this information, one day there will be a piece of proof.
So he really is kind of just in the house.
But that might instigate behavior from a little girl who's looking for attention or potentially
a little girl who has untapped psychic abilities.
Yeah.
And also, she likes boys in Harold Chippet's Harold Chippet.
He's a man.
Mm-hmm.
And she don't got that taste yet.
For a big, thick, British man.
You got to like vest fluff.
Cigar ash.
Yes, the standards have not yet gone away,
and she is not yet accepted that she can't have both.
Now, after threatening to burn Grandma Ethel alive,
Donald began hurling insults directly at Shirley's nan.
See, Ethel and Shirley had somewhat of a strained relationship,
although the strain was very normal, very normal, very strong.
middle class and very British.
Apparently, Ethel refused
to teach Shirley how to make
lace, because Shirley was too
impatient to master the craft
properly. Shut up!
And Shirley
was very missed. Oh, you're mad about not making lace?
Shut up! Oh, I want to make lace!
You can't. You're too impatient.
We fought the Holocaust.
What did you do, Shirley? Maybe that's what happened with the
bed sheets. She was just trying to get a quick way
to make lace and bring little holes in it.
Who knows? Too quick.
Yeah. But even
though this seemed to be the worst of Shirley and Ethel's conflicts, Donald began focusing his
ire on Ethel in late March in 1956 by communicating insults through messages, using the tedious
one-letter-at-a-time system the Hitchings family had developed, tapping out each letter
one by one, and I just find it so funny, because think about this, right before Henry reads,
as Henry's reading this, think about this, is that these people are writing out this
entire message, one letter
at a time. So it's like
C?
Well, it's, what it is is they're moving their finger.
They have a piece of paper.
It's like a Ouija board kind of. It's like a Ouija board. They have a piece of paper
with the entire alphabet written on it. And then when they get to a certain letter,
when they get to like D, they'll hear like, and they're like, they write down D.
And then they get to E and then write that down.
Now, is it an order? Is it the cordy system?
It's in order. It's in order. Yeah, yeah. It's an order.
But this is the message that took probably
half an hour, 45 minutes
to Decipher.
Oh, Lapo, silly,
silly old bugger.
She is old battle eggs.
Fass like nose overgrown
beetroot.
Silly old cow, do as I say.
Shit pan monkey chops.
Windbag.
Bomb fluff.
Shit, you shit.
You shit.
You shit.
You shit.
Shit.
You are shit.
She started losing it at the end of it.
You shit, you shit.
Use your words.
That's the weird thing about it.
It does sometimes these, even though they're tapping out the letter, tapping out the words one and a time, the messages do at times become more frenzied as they go on.
Yes.
Ah, yes.
S.
Oh, interesting.
H, R, maybe she, she, I.
ah
tea
fine
you
fuck you
fuck you
fuck me
fuck me
I'm shit
I'm shit
I'm the one who shit
wind bag
I see
oh bum fluff
bum fluff
interesting
now not to keep
being an asshole
but
has this little French
boy speak English
well he also
speaks French
well he's eight years old
he doesn't know
shit you shit
I know everything
yeah
he's 15
I thought the little boy
died
eight. No, well, the little boy
died at eight. But I grew up in heaven.
Am I getting ahead of myself? You're getting ahead of yourself. Sorry about that.
No, it's fine. It's fine. I grew up in
heaven. Everybody thought he in
heaven. Sex is illegal
for me in heaven.
That message was communicated to Harold Chibbitt.
But Chibbitt was unmoved.
After Chibbitt set aside what seemed to be an
almost uncontrollable amount of anger
towards Grandma Ethel, he began
deducing Donald's identity.
Donald, however, tried on a lot of hats
before he finally settled on a winner.
You would say shit.
You shit.
At first, Donald gave information
that implied that he'd been an actor
at a famous London theater
who died in 1753 at the age of 100.
As proof, Donald gave a bunch of names
that supposedly belonged to his fellow 18th century actors.
That's easy. I can do that all day.
Daniel Punch, Chu.
Reginald act most
Gwendolyn Actleast
I can do a lot of different
There's so many names you make up
Yeah
And most of these names
They were kind of close to the actor rosters
That Hald Chippet found in the archives
Because Donald did name the theater
Yeah how many British names are there
Quite a few
Well like Tendison Robert Mann
And oh his name is Ribbitt
Wondergunt
Pritchard Fair
child. Yeah, this is all names.
But there was
at least one name that
Donald absolutely nailed.
The spirit claimed to have known
an actor and playwright with the
incredible name of Richard
Steele.
Now, Chibbitt was floored
when he found the name Richard Steele
in the history books. Because how
would a 15-year-old know the name of an actor
who've been dead for 200 years?
Especially a name as odd as
Dick Steele.
But even if it was a coincidence, Dick Steele was still enough to keep Harold Chibbett going.
Now, after Donald spent weeks cycling through identities, he said he was an actor, then he said he was an alien, then he'd settle every once in a while into being a pyromaniac with a hatred for old lady.
Which is understandable, it's relatable.
But he finally began to settle on a permanent identity by the end of March.
He was claiming that he was a 15-year-old French prince who had almost been murdered during the French.
revolution.
Unlike his unluckier relatives who had met their ends with the guillotine, Donald claimed
that he had escaped the revolution but had tragically drowned in the English Channel not
too long after, that he had been imprisoned at 8 but had drowned at 15.
Now, this is a big claim.
So to prove it, Donald began leaving messages for Chibet that described late 18th century
France in great detail.
Ah, France.
Many a street.
Oh, France
Restaurants
France
Many ways for which
For you to visit France
In the 18th century
I will say this
He was far better at describing
18th century France than the
Kentucky vampire
When he described 18th century France
He was way out
It really was like there's like
Stones on the
Fucking roads
And like people
are eating like,
food, bread.
And everyone would just be like, yeah, yeah, they were.
Yeah, they were.
They were.
No, this was, he was getting in a pretty good detail, you know, like describing, you know,
like court rituals and, you know, what the crowns looked like.
It was fairly accurate, not perfect, but still pretty close.
And this would have been absolutely incredible, if not for the fact that a British TV series
called The Adventures of the Scarlet Pimpernel set during 18th century.
France and involving French royalty, it was airing at the same time that these claims began.
Now, Shirley Hitchings claimed that she never watched a single episode of The Adventures of
the Scarlet Pempernel. It had an 18-episode run. It was actually one of Christopher Lee's first
roles. He had an uncredited role as an executioner. He started off well.
He was actually an executioner, and then he got hired to do the role. I love him, the story
of him describing killing a man in real life to Peter Jackson.
And while not a single episode of the adventures of the Scarlet Pimpernel involved the drowned French prince,
the emergence of the French royalty personality in Donald emerged right after this show finished airing.
It must also be said that the airing of the show coincided with Donald's first celebrity request.
In what would be a recurring theme, Donald left a message demanding that the Scarlet Pimpernel himself,
a handsome young actor named Marius Goring
come visit the hitching home
just to say hi
it's hard to get him
yeah it's hard to get anybody
like how do you get a celebrity
a young celebrity like
hey there's a ghost out in Battersea
that wants to see you
well if you also offer to sell him your daughter
I think a lot of the weird guys
have come out of the woodwork
that's what Shirley was banking on here
yeah maybe yeah hopefully
it seems like it's just like a little girl
who wants to meet her crush
I mean this is it's true
Yeah. But it's interesting in the way that the message was delivered versus what the message is.
That's kind of what I keep coming around is they keep talking about how the messages were found and they were both highly strange, like written in weird, like, papers and doing the kind of stuff, but also in this knocking, like, weird way they do in the long form knocking communication that they did.
That it's just, it's just interesting.
I feel like the ghost would ask
to see normal people as well as celebrities
He asked to see reporters
He did
But that's not a normal person to me
Those are people who are like out in the world
With their names and papers and stuff like that
I'm agree with you
It is one of those things of why it's very easy
To say the story is not true
Mm-hmm yeah
But it does also
But the thing is to use that
As the only debunking method
Is to ignore everything else that happened
It just keeps getting thicker
Yeah also you remember when we were younger
Just like the grandma
But we're going to make
We're going to take your got to sense
Do you don't feel like when you were younger
There was a lot more scarlet pimpernel
In pop culture
Yeah
It was huge in the 50s
And then it
It had like another revamp
And then another revamp
And then I remember being a musical
Mm-hmm
Yeah
And it just kind of went away
I think it just became too hokey
And we stopped caring about
17th century frash
And saving aristocrats
Yeah
Yeah
But also then technically like
Batman
Came from that
So Batman's better, yeah.
After the French bitched out and left
the Vietnam War and we had to take over
fucking losers.
I like to fucking hear it. Finally, a real
goddamn man's opinion.
I'm not going to comment on that
because that was a big can of
worms you just opened there and I'm just going to move
right past. It did give us the bombie
sandwich and I love that. Thank God for
Vietnam. The one thing the Vietnam
conflict brought me with summer rolls.
And I will still argue
that the scene with the French
colonists and apocalypse now should have been left in the movie.
It was awesome. I love the scene, but it was long and boring.
It's very, well, debatable.
It's long and fascinating and boring.
Context.
Fly from your play.
Now, after Donald's request for a celebrity visit was denied, he made a statement that would
send Harold Chivitt down an obsessive investigative rabbit hole that would go on for years
on end.
After weeks of false starts when it came to Donald's identity, the poltergeist finally stuck to one and communicated that his real name was Louis.
He was indeed a crown prince of France, and he had indeed been killed as a result of the revolution.
Now, Chibbitt took this statement and ran with it, because this message heavily implied that Donald was actually the spirit of Prince Louis, aka Louis the 17th, son of King Louis the 16th.
King Louis, of course, had been executed during the French Revolution in 1793, and according to historical record, Prince Louis died not too long after.
Now, this would have been a massive discovery for Harold Chibbett, because throughout the 19th century, it was popular amongst scammers and crazy people to make claims that they were actually Prince Louis, the long-lost son of King Louis the 16th.
Usually scammers would have some sort of harrowing tale to tell as far as how they had escaped the French.
revolution and they would sometimes even have documentation to back it up prince louis fate was therefore
the subject of no less than 500 books that's just in the coming centuries it's so amazing i didn't even i had no
fucking idea about this stupid conspiracy theory and it was that big no clue well it's not a conspiracy
it's just one guy well it's kind of like what's his name what was the the daughter from uh the
i'll get to that here yeah i mean yeah i mean that's really what it's like i mean as far as the
cottage industry goes, it's, think of it like the JFK conspiracy. You know, there's just a whole
industry around it. There was a whole industry around the Prince Louis story. And this scam was the
antecedent to the Princess Anastasia claims that were made throughout the 20th century in which
women came forward to say that they were the last surviving member of the Romanoff dynasty and
it somehow survived the mass basement execution that came as a result of the Russian revolution.
It's this interesting thing in which, you know, the people have a revolution.
They kill a bunch of royal children, and then somebody comes forth to say, like, no, I survived, and I am that royal.
Yeah, because they'll either, they hope that they'll get money.
Yeah.
No, no, it's about money, fame, getting into the, you know, aristocracy by actually doing nothing.
I feel like it has to have worked at least once.
I mean, honestly, aristocracies, the aristocrats get in there doing nothing anyway.
What's it different if you lie to get in there?
True.
Amen, brother.
Now, as far as Prince Louis went, the real story is indeed hero.
King Louis the 16th was guillotined in January of 1793
But his wife, Marie Antoinette, and his son, Prince Louis, were separated and imprisoned by revolutionaries until their fates were decided.
And we're in real history.
This is real Prince Louis.
Now, Prince Louis was just eight years old when all this happened.
But he was nevertheless locked in a dark, damp cell where he was fed infrequently and his jailers physically abused him.
Hey, it's hard for a kid that age to get his own room.
Yeah, it's truly, and also, how much fun would it be to beat up a little prince?
Yeah, that's the problem.
It's too much fun.
Eventually, the terrible treatment enabled the revolutionaries to convince Prince Louis
that his mother and sister had sexually molested him prior to his imprisonment.
This is more proof of the decadent royals.
This false accusation of sexual abuse was used as evidence in Marie Antoinette's show trial,
the one that the revolutionaries set up for,
in order to basically give them license to cut off her head.
And, of course, the trial entered in a death sentence,
and Marie Antronet was executed by a guillotine in October of 1793.
Interesting.
I had no idea any of that.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, the sexual abuse thing, that was a really big part of, like, this woman needs to die.
Like, look at how decadent she was, look at how awful she was.
You know, because they needed some personal.
Extra.
They needed some extra.
Yeah, they needed to show that, like, it wasn't enough to just show that, you know,
we're starving while, you know, they're in their palace in Versailles.
You also need, they also needed to show like, they got to be evil.
Yeah, they have to be evil too.
They can't just be out of touch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it can't just be on the wrong side of history.
Yeah.
But the crazy part of this story is that the revolutionaries simply left young Prince Louis to rot in jail.
Over the course of about a year and a half, the prince became unrecognizable.
He was covered in soars, and he eventually died from tuberculosis.
in prison at the age of 10.
As was medieval European tradition,
a physician cut out Prince Louis Hart
and secretly smuggled it out of prison,
preserved in wine.
Very French.
The rest of the body was reportedly dumped
in one of the many mass graves
that had been dug to bury the thousands
of people who were executed during the French Revolution.
It's estimated that about 17,000 people
were guillotine during the French Revolution.
That's awesome.
It's a lot of blood?
it's so much blood oh my god the head rooms i can't wait till we do this yeah it must have got sick
but no one liked it actually it was a problem it was a mass of bodies it was a huge problem
health-wise but the now the physician held on to the heart of prince louis until 1815 that was the
year the french monarchy was restored napoleon and all that the physician attempted to give the heart
to prince louis's uncle king louis the 18th
But the new king declined to accept the ghoulish gift.
I'll keep it.
You know what?
You've already had it.
You've already been, you're close to it.
You know, I don't want to get in there.
I don't want to change its schedule.
Instead, the heart passed through the hands of various European royals
until it was finally laid to rest in a necropolis reserved for French royalty.
Oh, I thought it was Dick Cheney's chest.
Yeah, baby.
Unfortunately, did you hear the news?
What?
Dick Cheney's got a big old hog.
Oh, of course.
he does he's a piece of shit yeah
he's got that amount of confidence
that's a bed so that's big
dick confidence big old hog yeah
they found that on the autopsy
dude it's like I I can't even
get to his chest
giant cocks in the way
someone
get someone cut out of the way
honestly can we pin this back behind him
can we shove this up his ass
fortunately my cock
shrunk three inches
those few years I had the heart of that little
French boy
no way we'll tug the rest of
it out.
Well, the heart stayed
in the necropolis until
1999 when it was removed
and DNA tested. At
long last, the test proved that
the heart did indeed belong to
Prince Louis. Wow. And it was eventually
laid to rest with the bodies of
his parents, Marie Antoinette and
King Louis the 16th. Oh, good for him!
Yeah. Now, part of the reason why the heart
had been DNA tested was because even
back when Prince Louis died in
1795, rumors began
immediately circulating that he had escaped prison and that the dead body of another child
had been used in his place. As a result, dozens of impostors showed up at various European
noble households over the following decades. One, a German clockmaker, even wrote memoirs
that were so convincing that his death certificate and gravestone identified him as Louis
the 17th when he died in 1845. That clockmaker, however, was just one of
dozens of men who claim to be the so-called lost Dauphin,
men who hope to ascend the ranks of European royalty.
But that's all to say that if Donald the Poltergeist
was indeed Prince Louis, the long-lost child king of France,
then Harold Chibbett was on to a very big story indeed.
And it would not be.
The only problem is, is this is Harry Chibbitt's main issue,
is the fact that this is now where we really see the antiquity of his knowledge.
where he has this idea now
that it's a very specific ghost
that does very specific things
and it's very easily categorical
like you can put it all together
it's easy now I need to figure out the history of this ghost
and we'll tell its story
and it'll be a whole thing
and it's going to show it's actually going to prove
that in its trickster-like
presentation of the phenomena
it's going to embarrass him
looking for this information
and essentially going to
I might even say
waste most of the years
of his life that he spent
trying to connect Prince Louis
to this ghost. That's a true haunting.
It is. I think
that that is the spookiest story
of all is Harry Gibbitt
reading about Prince Louis for no
fucking reason. For years.
For years. For years.
Well, I think the reason why he
focused on this so much
is because he wanted proof.
Yes. And he thought that if
if the ghost could somehow say something that surely had no way of knowing,
and if he could connect that, then he could say, look, look, here's the proof that this is a poltergeist.
Because he has no way of knowing how to prove this phenomenon.
I mean, he is collecting all of the information that he can through the Floridian method.
But he is also looking to make his mark in the world of the paranormal.
and he's trying as hard as he possibly can.
Could be several ghosts.
Oh, very much.
That's another weird explanation of this whole thing.
Now, even though Donald was supposedly communicating directly with Harold Chibbitt as Prince Louis,
it must be repeated that the house at No. 63 Wycliffe was still extremely haunted,
and Donald's antics were by no means limited to messages.
It said that furniture upended itself every night.
Objects from the kitchen would go missing, or they'd fly through the air.
And the taps and the knocks became so routine that each family member was greeted with a specific noise each morning.
Can mine be a fart?
Sure.
That's my noise.
That's my noise.
Oh, what's my?
There were so many incidents that occurred in even just the first few months, never mind the following 12 years, that it would take us hours of
upon hours to cover them all.
So I would very much recommend the book,
The Poultergeist Prince of London,
if you want this full story.
It is fascinating, but fuck, there's so many incidents.
It's really, to me, it's the volume
that speaks to the weirdness of the situation.
That's why, like, if you read the book
and allow yourself to be kind of enveloped
in the amount of incidents that happens,
you might start to see why we're like,
there was something strange happening inside of the house.
That's what happens.
It's so long when you let the ghost write.
It's got nothing about time.
I mean, tell me about it.
You got to cut these guys off.
Get the ghost that editor.
The ghost that edits.
That's what I know.
The ghost needs a ghost writer.
That actually knows how did, you know, kind of mean.
Everybody knows.
Every script passed through like nine hands.
But when you look at Donald the Poultergeist's overall goals,
it seems like one of his biggest focuses was keeping Shirley from holding a job.
He wanted Shirley at home, or quite possibly the other explanation.
is that Shirley wanted to be at home.
See, after Shirley lost a second job to Donald's tapping,
because if you'll remember, that tapping followed her everywhere,
Donald threw a tantrum the night before Shirley was about to start a third job.
Reportedly, Donald hid Shirley's new work clothes
the night before she was to start a new job at a bank.
Then he tipped a slot bucket full of garbage,
this is very weird, directly into Shirley's underwear.
Yeah.
The spirit then drew black crosses on the wall.
using lead because, you know, lead was around.
Around at that point.
I think they used it to clean their stove or something.
Brush your teeth.
Yeah, honestly, really.
It seasons a soup.
Really nice.
I cover my dildos in it.
That's an old ingredient to English breakfast.
He used to come with a sight of lead.
Yeah, yeah, you just gnaw on that until you get dizzy.
Yeah.
And then Donald turned on the stove and caught a towel on fire.
Donald then left a message saying that he had, quote,
seen those Chinese fishermen with atomic ash fell on them,
all burnt up and swollen,
which I assume is a reference to the same incident
that inspired the creation of Godzilla.
The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
No, this is 1950.
You know, it's when all those fishermen were burned and killed
in the, I think, the Bikina Tal test.
One of the nuclear tests.
But yeah, all those fishermen were burned and killed
and inspired the story of Godzilla.
Donald then added that he was quite capable
of doing the same thing to the hitching family.
That would be fucking...
Now he's threatening nuclear holocaust.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Fucking no.
One spared.
I think the worst part is Donald doesn't know the difference between Chinese and Japanese.
And I think that's a little upsetting, Donald.
I do believe he was adding a bit of his old British point of view there.
Determined to get the job, though, surely still try going to work the next day,
even after Donald threw a tea kettle at her head during breakfast.
She even had a friend go with her to the train station.
But after the friend was allegedly pushed onto the tracks by an invisible force,
that's something the friend said,
Shirley gave up on the job and returned home to focus on Donald.
But isn't that weird?
I know that it's really strange that it went with her so thickly.
The phenomena everywhere she went, and they all talk about it,
that's the stuff that's really interesting,
is the fact that the noises were so loud,
you could hear him on the street
the fact that everywhere she went
they could hear this
this series of noise and there's only
so often she can fake
it I wonder if there's
just this mixture of
all of this stuff flying around
yeah I mean I think it is a mixture
because I bet she didn't want to work
and I bet she's like I got this ghost
at home I got a friend I got a reason not to work
and I might as well go back home I'm feeding
this topa we're calling it a name
we're giving it a job we're telling
it what it does, and the more and more
we're all sitting here paying attention to it,
it seems to just be
feeding it all up. Yeah, and they're now
at this point, like, giving it a history.
Which is exactly how you make
a topa. And he could have just
been trying to give her tea. He's just a bad waiter.
That's again, yeah, yeah, hyper-impressive.
Europe is not known for its customer service.
Now, Harold Chibbitt somewhat ignored
all of the intense paranormal activity
that was constantly going on at the Hitching's
house. But, I mean, it might be fair to
that the activity had become tedious and routine to everyone involved, Harold Chibbitt included.
As such, Chibbitt began to pedantically obsess over the Prince Louis angle, constantly trying
to catch Donald out with factual errors.
Now, Shirley steadfastly denied that she knew anything about French history, although a second
paranormal researcher who popped into the house, he claimed that he did see French history
books in Shirley's room.
It also did not sound like that obscure of a story.
No.
So if there's a French ghost in your house, I'd buy a book of French history.
Don't learn a little more about it?
Why not?
Yeah.
Interestingly, Donald the Poultergeist could communicate impassable French.
And he was quite fond of drawing fleur-de-lis designs, often used to signify French royalty around the hitching home.
After taking all this into account, Harold Chibbitt declared in July of 1956 that there was no way that Shirley could have faked all this activity for six months straight.
And he therefore decided that there was.
were genuine supernatural agents at work
even if the facts weren't
always straight. And that dude was
embedded. He was there every
day. And I do think
that he would have
said
that it was fake if he
could have caught it. That's the worst part
about having a poltergeist is eventually
some fat dude has to come live with you
and tell him everything.
Are you talking about my wife's
Natalie's life?
With Harold Chitt, though, there's also an argument to be made for sunk cost.
Oh, very much, though. Oh, he's got to do it.
Yeah, he's just put in so much time that he just needs to put in a little bit more.
And then just around the corner is the answer.
Now, after spending a few months getting hammered on all things 18th century French,
Donald the Poultergeist briefly reverted to making threats against the family
after Shirley's father, Wally, refused to buy Donald a typewriter.
I mean, we do need to speed up this process.
Seriously, honestly, just can't we just try?
Can he just get flashcards or something?
He taps. Get him a typewriter.
Oh, but just think about how a lot of typewriter is, and it's never going to end.
The ghost is like we can just speed this up so much if you just get me a fucking typewriter.
Now, for a brief period here, after the request for the typewriter was refused, Donald referred to himself as Shaggy Roots.
Shaggy Roots. He took a new name.
Oh, I love this.
No, Shaggy Root.
Shaggy Roots is getting
angry.
Yeah.
And Shaggy Roots
threatened to burn
everyone in their beds
with matches.
But the focus of the
aggression was once
again on Grandma Ethel.
So even though Grandma Ethel
was the wittiest member
of the family outside of Shirley,
remember she had said
that she had seen souls
leave the bodies
of people at the hospital
where she worked.
She loved it.
Yeah.
She had still frequently...
Bye boy!
See in hell.
She had still frequently
expressed her displeasure
about living with a
polter.
in her twilight years.
And so, acting as Shaggy Roots,
Donald reportedly soaked Ethel's
sheets in alcohol, then
left a message saying that Ethel
was going to be dead by dawn.
Dead by dawn! Dead by Dawn! Dead by Dawn!
Donald then cryptically added,
Oh, help. He got der Rat poison.
He got der Raat poison.
Oh, help. It's me, Shaggy Root.
I'm trying to tell you all what's happening here.
He got the rap frozen. It wasn't
me.
The coffee's living in the cop.
Those are taps, the bombastics.
Yeah, come on, leave them alone.
It's not me, man.
Not me, Shaggy.
Oh, you trust your mother.
You trust your brother, man, Shaggy.
The poltergeist then spent the night,
throwing objects around the house.
Actually, if it was in the shade,
like, I help, get out the rat poison.
That's a really good shaggy.
Thank you.
I actually.
I don't have a hell to help that arous.
I didn't realize that.
That's how you.
the shaggy
you do it with me
the shaggy voice
actually isn't that hard to do
there wasn't me
yeah
oh wow I didn't know
I'm gonna do that
it's really easy
I do it around the house
all the time
oh yeah I'm working on this
it's one of my
talking to myself
making myself laugh voices
yeah a lot of my voices
I can't repeat anymore
yeah
but they're for you
yeah for my family
yeah
well the polter guys
then spent the night
throwing objects around the house
while all the members
of the Hitchings family
huddled together
in the bedroom
to wade out Donald's tantrum.
Now, just as quickly as Donald had turned violent,
he changed tack yet again
and began communicating with Shirley
about matters that sound more like they're coming
from a fellow teenage girl
as opposed to the vengeful spirit
of a drowned child king.
Using taps, Donald asked Shirley
if she liked a 19-year-old
British child actor named Jeremy Spencer,
who at the time was filming the Prince and the Showgirl
with Marilyn Monroe and Sir Lawrence Olivier.
19 years old, that's a man!
baby. Well, he was a
former child. He'd been acting since he was
like 12 or 13. So he was
a well-known child actor in the British
Post War cultural
history. Now, was he the prince or the
showgirl?
He was the prince.
Now, Shirley, obviously,
like Jeremy Spencer. She had an autographed
photo of Jeremy Spencer hanging above her
bed. Don't ask Shirley about Jeremy
Spencer. But after Shirley
confirmed that she did indeed like
Jeremy Spencer, Donald's
started asking Harold Chibbett if he could contact Jeremy Spencer, because Donald was sure that Jeremy Spencer was about to get into a car accident.
And Harold Chibbett is exactly who Jeremy Spencer wants to talk to.
That man's going to arrive and he can't wait to go to that little girl's house with Harry Chibbett.
He says, like, I want you long to come with me and experience a most wonderful occult phenomena.
Get the fuck away from me.
do you leave. Now, no one contacted Jeremy Spencer at this point, but Donald was out of it. He even
tried proving his pedigree by saying that he had known James Dean was going to die in a car crash in
1955, but he had not been strong enough back then to communicate the warning to other people.
But in a moment that is only amazing, if you believe Harold Chibbitt, Donald warned the family
once more that Jeremy was going to have an accident on November 25th. The next day, the British
newspaper reported that child
actor Jeremy Spencer had indeed
been in a car accident, but
was ultimately unharmed.
Interesting. Unless it's
Harry Chibbitt, trying
to make a little bit of news for himself.
I've never thought about that.
I've got to figure out how to cut these brakes.
How do I cut these brakes?
Or, you know, news traveled slow. We could have heard about it.
And then they told... This isn't the 1860s,
buddy. There's radio and television.
Yeah, they're not going to wait for the boat
to come across the pond for this.
You got to wait for the early paper, then the late paper, then is it evening paper?
You're right.
But he had been saying for weeks beforehand that the car accident was coming.
And then finally, you know, car accident's coming tomorrow, and then the car accident came.
And Chip had also claimed that Donald made another correct prediction on December 9th.
When Donald wrote, quote, they have accident, Paola.
Allegedly, that same evening.
Kind of more of Malamia, huh?
Yeah, it turned into like a little Peruvian woman.
It was Paula, not Paola.
Paola is a Brazilian name.
I just go immediately, no, sorry, it's Malania.
Okay, Donald, you buy me from big bad men, thank you.
Well, allegedly, that same evening, the news reported that 28-year-old Paula Marshall,
the wife of a famous British magician, had been killed in a car accident.
Honestly, that's a really good way to release her from that fate.
You're being married to a famous British magician.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, perhaps encouraged by two correct predictions in a row, Donald began telling Shirley that Jeremy Spencer had a message for her.
And Donald knew so because he could read Jeremy's thoughts through accidental mind transference.
Awesome!
Yeah, and those were Donald's words.
Donald wrote out accidental mind transference.
That's a lot of taps.
Yeah.
Now, at this point, I don't know if there was actually something going on or if Harold Chibbitt was totally losing his mind.
because he documented that Shirley's
autographed photo of Jeremy Spencer
just after this car accident
that autographed photo actually
began weeping like
fucking stigmata and the
wetness on the photo was indeed salty
like real tears
he tasted it. Harry, stop licking
every ghost juice.
Harry, stop it. It's wet over here.
I'll lick that. That is urine.
Ah, yes, that is every urine.
That's grandma. She hasn't been wet in a long time.
Well, it looks like I just accidentally added some witness of my own.
She, I mean, he documented this, he said, he swore that this thing started crying.
This photo started crying.
That is an exact, another wild, full-on poltergeist commonality.
Yeah.
Right?
Also, with every single religious visitation, they experience things weeping.
It's a very, very common psychic phenomena.
but he's not dead
No Jeremy Spencer's alive
So why would his photos start weeping?
Picture said
But the picture is of him
Picture misses him
Well it's Donald whatever Donald is
Making the photograph cry
Fuck Donald
Sorry
Well Chibbett even gave in at one point
And actually reached out to Jeremy Spencer's agent
And while I don't know exactly what
Harold Chippett said to him
Spencer's agent declined to respond
Thank you for the opportunity
No thank you
Now, as 1956 became 1957, Donald remained a fixture in the Hitchings household,
although Harold Chibbitt seemed to be totally lost in the sauce.
Frustrated by his lack of progress with Donald,
Chibbett wrote and mailed a letter to the Hitchings
addressed to Donald the Poulter guys.
In the letter, which was meant to be read aloud so Donald could hear it,
Chibbett demanded that Donald, once and for all,
gives some proof that he was indeed Prince Louis,
the lost child king of France.
But what's strange about this is that while Donald's response was indignant, it was also far more articulate than Donald's previous messages, whereas before his messages were rambly and disjointed, you know, wind fluff, shit, you shit, but, yeah.
He now wrote, quote, that letter is preposterous. How dare he ask me that?
Cheap has made me very hungry.
And he calls him Chib, by the way.
Chip, you make me very angry.
I dismiss him now
I will not talk to him
Cheeb thinks of me
as a machine
But he must understand
I am a spirit of the past
Far more articulate
Fuck you cheap
Chip you go fuck
Now did he ever say
His name was Louis
Or did he say
That he was the son of King Louis
Because King Louis
Could have multiple sons
Well okay
The thing is with that
I simplified it
Because there was so many
There's a lot of louis around.
Technically, Prince Louis's name was Louis Charles.
Okay.
And he was also, but he was also known as, like, Louis the 17th.
So just to simplify it for the listeners, so they wouldn't become confused.
Yes, his name was, his name was technically Louis Charles.
Okay.
And really, like, Donald didn't really, like, he didn't always call himself Donald.
He just responded to Donald.
Okay, gotcha.
And Donald then claimed that he was going to produce an old handkerchief if Chippet needed evidence so badly.
He does.
He's asking for it.
Just do it.
Now, the handkerchief never materialized, nor did Chibbitt respond.
A few days later, though, Donald wrote that he was glad that Chib had apologized, even though Chibbett had never apologized.
And I never would.
I didn't apologize to the French.
Actually, both of them seemed to willfully forget the whole standoff.
It's better for just move on.
Yeah.
Because by February of 1957, they'd continued communicating with each other as if they'd never had the whole tiff.
Look at Muscle.
You just
Right back in
You just move right along
Right back in
Now despite Harold Chibbitt's
Continued push
Towards the Prince Louis
Angle
Donald the Poultergeist had
By 1957
Become focused mainly
Upon young, handsome male
celebrities
By February
Donald was claiming
To be the spirit
of James Dean
And in another interesting twist
Donald's handwriting
and grammar
were much improved
When he was playing
James Dean
As James Dean
He wrote
In what is
by far my favorite message
Quote
Now I don't know who you good folks are
But I'm still waiting for help
Please hurry
I'm grateful to you ma'am
For keeping me here but I'm lost
I want to get back to my country
Look mister
I'm James Dean
I didn't ask to come here
But I just guess I got here
So help me please
I belong in California
It gives me the same vibes
It gives me the same vibes as
Oh, Mom, I'm stuck in the oar
Oh, oh, I'm in the oar
How this happened, I'm in the oar
Look, Mr. I'm James Dean
I didn't come here, help me please
I belong in California
Bring me back to California
Signed James Actor Dean
Life of Northland
At this point
Donald seemed to become confused
even with himself.
When Shirley started swooning over James Dean,
Donald seemed to get jealous of the James Dean persona
that he himself had created.
He told Shirley that he wasn't going to help James Dean,
and he was going to cut off James Dean from sending messages entirely.
You're not going to talk to James Dean anymore
if you love James Dean so much, and you're going to talk to him.
I just got to say, honestly, I don't care what you're fighting about,
but if you could, get me back to California.
Because I hate it here.
It's cold, it's rainy.
There's no motorcycle.
There's no men for me to dally with?
I mean, actually, if you look at the message,
you did kind of get like James Dean's pouty personality.
Like, I didn't ask to come here.
My guess I just got here.
He just got here.
He was a great actor.
He really was.
He was incredible.
You ever seen Giant?
Oh, it's great.
Yeah.
Love Giant.
East of Eden?
Incredible.
Now, Chibbitt.
He wasn't there, though.
He wasn't in the UK.
No.
But Chibbitt, meanwhile, dutifully documented the messages that spelled out the fights
between Donald and James Dean.
And again, it must be said
that this very well
could have just been the ramblings
of a high-strung, if-imaginative
teenage girl talking to herself.
Very much so.
Of course!
Very much so.
But what if it's all done
with an uncontrollable
childlike psychic ability?
What if all of that's true?
And it's projected from her changing
body.
She's growing older.
They always talk about this.
It's connected to young women.
She happens to have this latent telekinetic ability.
And it's doing the will of a 15-year-old girl.
I believe that over anything else.
That's what I think is kind of happening here.
I think that that's way more real than any poltergeist will ever be.
Because eventually a ghost would show up that's not like some hot teen boy.
Sometimes.
Who knows?
You know, like that's the thing.
Why is it all hot teen boy?
Because Hottie Boys die with fucking unfinished business all the time, every time.
It's not just hot team.
I mean, Shaggy Root showed up.
And he was just a fucking insane pyromani.
Don't talk about Shaggy like that.
I don't think Shaggy has a problem.
I got to be something false, man.
I don't care, man.
So you want about Shaggy.
He's not a heart throb.
All right.
He's not a super handsome man.
I'm just not good of catching being cut.
I got to work on this.
I have to work on this.
Now that I know that I can do that.
Yeah.
No, it was on me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if you look at the way this James Dean Donald fight works, it sounds like you're in the mind of a teenage girl who is in the throes of like just kind of a fantasy.
Yeah.
It's like I've got this French boy king and then James Dean comes in.
But then the French boy king, he, French Louis, he gets jealous about James Dean.
He's not going to let me talk to James Dean anymore.
It's, you know, she's imagining that two boys are fighting over her.
But at the same time, she's also communicating this fight through psychic taps.
Yes.
It's insane.
I'm starting to feel bad for Chibbitt.
Chibbett loves every minute of this.
Never feel bad for Chibbett.
He loves ghosts.
He, at this point, he is getting very frustrated.
It is getting, it's starting to get tedious.
Now, if it tells you anything, it's around the time that Donald was fighting with James Dean,
that the poltergeist began working very hard to get Shirley accepted into the Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts
so Shirley could become an actor.
At the same time, Donald began writing letters, which, I suppose Shirley stamped and mailed,
to David Spencer, Jeremy Spencer's brother.
See, David was also an actor, but he was also a producer, a writer, and a director.
So in these letters, Donald begged David to give Shirley an acting job.
Or failing David, failing David, maybe Jeremy could give Shirley an acting job.
not a bad idea.
If you want to get an act, you want to be an actor
on the stage, she can't be having taps
falling or everywhere. But the idea is, you got to
probably the part of it. She was, did anything go?
She could do taps. Oh shit. Or
or she would look so much better
and stop for people. They didn't have stomp back then.
No, you could throw the candles back and forth.
That's the thing is you can't control the tapping
so it's going to throw all the rhythm off. She'd actually be the
worst person to be in stomp or tap.
I wish a poltergeist would inhabit a
black person.
It happens.
Well, these letters were apparently enough of a nuisance to the Spencer team that an actual representative of David Spencer's showed up to number 63 Whitecliffe to personally tell the hitching family, you gotta stop sending David letters from the ghost.
It's not working.
It's not working.
It's a nuisance because she's sending out like three, four a day.
And it's filling up their inbox.
But tellingly, the same night that the Spencer representative dropped by, Shirley was reportedly thrown from her bed,
eight times. And Vaseline was smeared across all of Shirley's closet doors and walls. The knocking
also became so loud that it sounded like someone was stomping down the stairs. And Wally reported
that their piano began playing on its own. Now again, this all only holds water if you believe
the family. But remember, Wally Hitchings was a very average Englishman who never made a dime
off of this story. He gained nothing. Specifically, Wally did not do anything. Anything
to make money off of this thing. Nothing.
But on the other hand, I started
thinking about like, well, if that's not the
case, if that's not the motivation, what is another
possibility? Wally may have
been so repressed and straight
laced that it could have been easier
for him to believe that his daughter was
haunted by a poltergeist.
Because the other possibility
is that his daughter was a force
five pain in the ass who talked
a lot about burning Wally's
mother alive in her bed. I completely
agree. I think that there's a little
bit of that too of the he's so stiff upper lip that it's much easier to believe a ghost is causing
all these problems instead of his daughter yeah so now i'm on she is the ghost she is telekinesis
that that is me that is my theory okay all right all right yeah i'm i'm i'm willing to fall on that
as well yes there is something that she's she's tapped into something uh there is no pun intended
Yeah.
Ghosts don't work like that.
No, pun intended.
Yeah.
Funn't that she's tapped into something.
Thank you.
No.
I said to say it right.
Now, it's my personal opinion.
I guess that we're all there.
It's kind of both.
But I'm not the first person to come to that conclusion.
Ghost hunter Andrew Green, who had become one of the UK's most famous ghost hunters,
he visited No. 63 Wycliffe and surmise that while he thought Shirley was mentally unwell,
she had nevertheless summoned.
Donald the Poltergeist with psychokinesis during a mental break.
Yes.
And by the way, everyone in the house hated Andrew Green.
Yes, he did not like it because, again, the idea of a physical ghost is so, it is easier.
Yeah.
It's easier than being like, it's her fault.
It's easier to wrap your head around.
Either then, whether or not she knew she was doing it or not, I don't think she even knew
she was doing it.
I don't think so.
I think that there were knocks coming from literally the bones in her feet that she
was subconsciously doing.
I think that there were exterior noises that she somehow created.
And I do believe that the objects flying around came because of she had this weird untappedability.
Mm-hmm.
Not tapability.
It literally, yeah.
Got him.
Now, if Shirley was indeed behind the whole thing, one way or another, she got very angry in May of 1957.
Domlin began writing a barrage of letters that Shirley sent to Harold Chibbett.
so many letters that Harold simply began ignoring them.
And similarly, several of the Hitching's neighbors
began receiving horrible, abusive letters in the post,
supposedly sent from Donald.
They called them poison pen letters.
Donald also began threatening murder and arson more often,
which unfortunately brings us to the death of Grandma Ethel.
Yay!
Finally!
See in July.
of 1957. Donald asked
Wally and Kitty if they would buy
Shirley some new makeup, but the
request was again ignored.
And if you'll notice, this is a recurring theme.
Donald asks for something for
Shirley. The family says no,
Donald throws a fit.
Right after the request for makeup was made,
five shillings went
missing from Grandma Ethel's
purse. That sent Grandma
Ethel into an uncontrollable
rage. She tried hitting
Shirley with her cane.
which led to a huge fight
and a massive poltergeist event
which allegedly sent everything in Ethel's room airborne
imagine the end of poltergeist
where everything's flying around the room
it's supposedly like that
and the next day a butcher knife
was thrown with such force by invisible hands
that it supposedly stuck in the kitchen door
and after that Ethel's room was in such a state
of constant paranormal turmoil
that it eventually gave her a stroke.
She was placed in a nursing home and died soon after.
That is one of those facts about this case that prove something was happening inside of the house.
It literally drove her to have a stroke.
She was so afraid and upset by what was happening inside of the house that it really, like, that I find that that's the most interesting of all.
Yeah, yeah, that there was something, it was so awful, like that, yeah, she had a stroke.
But it's this happening all the time, they didn't get any fucking footage?
I mean, pictures, they didn't have video, they didn't have the proper, I mean, I know, I know, I know.
I don't know.
Honestly, dude, it's a very valid question.
Yeah, it's a huge problem.
I'm not sold on this at all, you know, but.
Yeah, it's a very valid question.
And, you know, there is arguments to be made in these sorts of things that, you know, people, not necessarily,
make things up, but they fill in the gaps
and they end up saying that stuff
flies through the air, and there was nobody there, but maybe
there was somebody there. Or they exaggerate things when they
retell it, or, you know, their memory is fallible, of course.
Let's get a shot of the knife of the door. I mean, yeah, but
they just, you know, that's one of those.
Now, after Donald killed Ethel, he went away for a few days,
then left a note that he was not
allowed to speak for at least a week because he had taken a vow of silence that vow of course was broken the next day when he left a note suggesting that it might be nice if wali paid for shirley to get a new hairdo like maybe it's your up maybe it'd be nice if you want to give her like a spa day or something it'd be nice she's looking a little rough
yeah my host is ugly donald returned in full force within just a few days continuing to torment the hitching's family with near constant paranormal activity the hitching's
meanwhile very much put on a stiff British upper lift and attempted to continue with their lives.
They accepted Donald to such a degree that they began leaving presents under the tree for him every Christmas.
This is making them solid as hell.
They are. Chibbitt, on the other hand, continued down the fruitless path towards trying to prove that Donald was the spirit of Prince Louis.
For the next year, Chibbitt chased down any detail that Donald put forth.
And, of course, he would go to his colleagues and try to get them to help him out with it.
That, of course, shredded any credibility he had with associates who kept telling Chibba that there was no there there with Donald and the French.
Finally.
Stop.
Well, they...
Just stop it.
They just eventually...
But that's the thing that kept going on for years.
They were like, Harold?
You're ruining your life.
You've got to stop.
There's nothing here.
Like, there's something...
I agree that there's something going on.
But this is not Prince Louis.
You need to stop.
He was just desperate because I do believe there was a sunk and cost foul.
see, and it did seem like, oh, this is my big get.
I get to be the guy from Borley Rectory.
I get to, like, be the guy
this embedded. He's put so much time in
at this point. I get it. It's like, if it's not
Prince Louis, his life's a failure.
And it was.
Surely, meanwhile,
finally found a job that was acceptable
to Donald, but it's not like Donald was holding out
for something fun. In September
of 1958, Shirley took a job
as a clerical assistant at a
stationary firm in West
London. It sounds like the most boring job.
It's not like she got a job at the candy factory.
Well, he loved notes. He needs lots of paper.
He did. That's interesting.
That's very interesting.
I actually really like that.
And, you know, Shirley ended up keeping that job for many years.
Donald's communication also began slowing down considerably after Shirley got this job.
And while it seems like the noises stopped following Shirley outside of the house, the
poltergeist activity within the house, nevertheless continued on a fairly constant base.
As such, Harold Chibbett continued working on the Battersea Poultergeist story for years afterwards.
This went on for years and years and years.
Finally, in 1963, seven years after Harold Chibbett met the Hitchings,
he finally decided that while Donald was certainly a spirit,
it was unlikely that he was the spirit of Prince Louis.
It took him six years to come to that conclusion.
God, what a fuck, poor guy.
to come to that conclusion.
Excuse me.
I suppose...
He could have been a doctor.
What?
He literally...
He could have a real doctor.
In that time period.
I suppose because he came to this conclusion,
Harold Chibbett declined to make the French angle,
nor the celebrity angle,
the focus when he finally finished his manuscript about the case.
Instead, he gave his book a title
that was utterly unmarketable in every way,
calling it the poltergeist that can write.
And this is why sometimes you need an American.
Every once in a while, you need them in there because...
Hey, sometimes when your publisher tells you it needs a little zaz, they're right.
They're right.
Also, you hit it earlier.
Ghostwriter is better.
It's a term.
Title.
Yes.
That's immediately a better term.
Ghostwriter's incredible.
That's a movie.
Literally, sometimes, they say this.
titles are the difference
between hits
and not hits. Harry Chipp
destroyed his life.
It's like calling Jaws the shark that bites.
My
Steven's Shark
movie.
You know, I actually
agree with that because I think
that if Super Troopers had a better name
it would be respected on the level of Ghostbusters.
Seriously. It's just a bad name
but it's a classic comment.
Phenomenal film.
Yeah, yeah, one of my favorites.
But yeah, terrible name.
Now, by the time Harold Chibbitt finished his book in 1963,
Shirley was 22 years old and had fallen in love with a man named Derek.
The Hitching family, however, neglected to mention anything about Donald to Derek for several months.
And they should have.
Because whatever was going on with Shirley was still happening seven years later.
And that's what's interesting about this, is that it's seven years later.
Harold Chibbitt's gone.
There's no report.
There's no nothing, but something is still happening, to the point where the family has to sit down and talk to this suitor.
They have to talk to Derek and say like, hey, so there's this thing named Donald, and you're going to have to deal with it if you want to be with Shirley.
It's very interesting.
And Derek decided that if staying with Shirley meant that he had to accept Donald as well, then bring on to boogeyman.
Oh, yeah, dude. He got a man because I guess that bolder guys knew what we all didn't know, the G.
She had a, she had that coochie that wouldn't quit, and she was a wife material.
The Poultergeist knew that?
Yeah.
That she had a Coochie that just wouldn't quit.
Well, she knew from the inside.
Uh-huh.
The Poultergeys knew from the inside, because the Poultergeist was...
Shirley is a woman at this point.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, surely is a woman now.
But you said from the beginning, so now you're speaking on a 15-year-old girls.
I'm saying he had an idea.
Uh-huh.
I mean, the ghost is 15.
I'm just saying the ghost is a little boy.
Ghost is immature.
Wow.
Does statutory...
Save it.
Save it.
It really is.
It's the twilight argument.
He's technically a teenager, but he's also hundreds of years old.
She's a teenage girl.
Does it apply?
When I had to explain to Natalie, when I was playing persona 5, explain to how, yes, I am playing a 15-year-old boy.
Yes, I am.
seducing my teacher who I found out was a hidden sex worker and then I'm using that
information against her yes but it's a video game and how did you explain that to her
in that way and she said don't talk about it anymore yeah cool there's plenty of video
games yeah you don't have to play that I did eventually stop but it's so many yeah I did
Stop. I did stop. I did feel weird.
It did feel strange.
Well, Shirley and Derek were married in 1965.
And after Donald spent a few years just changing the channel on the TV every once in a while, he did hang around after they were married, the activity went down.
You know, like they ever, they would say that they would be sitting there watching TV.
They even moved out of London.
And they said every once in a while, the TV would change channels on its own.
They might hear something weird every once in a while.
But by 1968, Donald had fully disappeared.
No exorcism, no nothing, he just went away.
Whatever was happening just stopped.
As for Harold Chibbitt, the manuscript for the poltergeist that can write was sent to and rejected by so many publishers that it eventually got lost in the mail.
He made so many copies.
He accidentally sent the, I think what happened is that he accidentally sent the original.
copy to a publisher and then it just
disappeared. So, Chibb
gave up and instead
self-distributed a paranormal
newsletter until his death
by heart attack ends
1978. To fucking
paranormal investigators die
of anything besides
heart attacks. Heartbroken, because
that's what that is.
In case where their wives try to kill them.
A lot times, yeah.
That is true. That is true, yeah.
I think his heart got bored.
Yeah.
and left.
Much like they all do.
This is what we keep beating for.
It's not attack as much as it just passed out.
Yeah.
His part quit.
Shirley and Derek, however, are still alive and happily married to this day.
As far as we can tell.
But Donald the Poultergeist never returned.
And whatever he may have been, still remains to this day, a total and complete mystery.
It's very interesting.
And surely, she would come out later on.
on she had a little cap later on because she said that they had activity on and off for
several years and surely said that she'd been dealing with for a while and so two stories came
out one story oh she said more she's got two new stories so one story was um that when he finally
went away they found a letter a bit like a piece of paper that said goodbye right that was like one
story that she said which i don't know about that the second one was she said that she said that
within the year of the interview that she had done she was doing some cover was class and she
was there with a lady that was a lady you got no it's important she came forward and told did the
thing being like I'm a medium if you ever dealt with it if you ever lost somebody you're
lost anybody and she's like no and she's like you ever lost a little little brother and she's
like, well, I just have to say something.
Because, like, I don't do this unless I have to.
It's like, you're being followed by something.
And she's like, what am I being followed by?
She's like, you're following, you're being followed by a little boy with red hair, like
long red hair, in silk clothes, and, like, silk princely clothes.
And she had never, she didn't know who she was.
So it's interesting.
Again, it's a famous story, though.
Yes, and she's a medium.
But this was years after, this is all years after that.
It's one of those where I don't know how I feel about it, but Shirley holds on to it.
And Shirley has come to believe that it's a ghost.
But I do think that Shirley is also a very strange woman.
Yeah.
And now she's talking to Michael Landon.
Hey.
He's a hot boy who's died of young.
He's the, you remember Michael Landon?
That was my mom's hall pass.
My mom loved Michael Landon.
My mom loved Michael Landon.
I thought Michael Landon was like in his 30s when he died.
That's young.
If she's going for anyone, it's going to be River Phoenix.
Yeah, at this point.
Or Jonathan Brandis.
Oh, quiver phoenix.
Well, no, now that Shirley's like 85 years old and British, it's like Benedict Cumberbatch
or something.
You know who I see her for?
But he's not dead.
Is it weird described it, but I feel like she's an Emmanuel Macron woman?
Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a good one.
See, this is why we try to do ghost stories.
And this is as close as we got.
This is how, I mean, but that's the thing. This is every ghost story.
as close as we got on this one.
Sorry, the conjuring doesn't exist.
It just hard.
It just didn't, it just doesn't happen.
UFOs are more real than this.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'll say that.
But I believe that the center of this is the psychic activity, which is why it's interesting,
but no one's like, besides everybody now, as we're all, as Monday morning quarterbacks,
sure, we can see it.
Aliens are ghosts that play tricks on us.
How about that?
Love that.
Yeah, love it.
Yeah.
At the end of the day, it's like, all we can say is, it's wheelie, wheel.
Weel, we, wheel.
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There are two James Dean
Museums
One of them
is run by the town. The other one is allegedly run
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Honestly, the one that was run by the town
was closed for the season. So we had to go to the other one, but we did not
find out until afterwards that the man who ran it was a
convicted sex offender.
Was it a good museum?
Um, underwhelming, uh, because it was, it was stuff like, is like, this is the, a jacket that was worn by a guy who was two grades above James Dean.
This is some underwear that I imagine James Dean might have wore.
Yeah, he's like this. He's like this.
This is a motorcycle, but look kind of like James Dean.
Well, I can't wait. I got to buy a plane ticket to get wherever that is.
You know, James Dean, Jim Davis, the creator of Garfield, and Jim Jones are all from the same, like, 50-mile radius.
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