Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 659: Jimmy Savile Part II - The Devil Behind the Curtain

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

This week, the boys continue the story of British TV Personality & notorious Pedophilic Predator Jimmy Savile, focusing on the years in which the outlandish Broadcaster committed some of his most notable charity work - as well as abuses. Infiltrating children's hospitals seeking new victims, feeding his necrophilic fantasies in hospital basement morgues, all while stacking up handfuls of allegations behind the scenes with little to no repercussions. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last hot task. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. Humamara. Oh, yes. What an interesting. Facts.

The most delightful ways. Take heaven for little girls. It's time to get it out now. Get it out. Get it out now. Right at the beginning. Young girl, get out of my mouth. My love for you is away out of line

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14 years old when he met her Welcome to the last podcast on the left Ladies and gentlemen My name's Marcus Parks I'm here with the golden throat of podcasting Henry Zabrowski My name is Gary Puckett And I sang the song Young Girl

And I die smiling, no one knew my crimes. Oh, so that was Gary Puckett. Yeah, it was Gary Puckett. What was his band again? The Union Gap. That's right. That's right.

Yeah. Stay out of that gap. And we had the last podcast on the left's resident safety expert, Ed Larson. How are you doing, Ed? I'm feeling all right. You know, I'm feeling great now and bad later. I'm feeling bad now because I've been spending day after day. an hour after hour with the story

of Jimmy Saville. We're here part two of three and this is one of the longest scripts I have ever written. I've been watching that Steve Coogan show, you know, barely any jokes. Yeah, you got Steve Coogan, Jimmy Savilled, nothing. I'm sitting here waiting for the last,

waiting for the yucks. In the trip. Yeah. He did all sorts of impressions. Yeah, yeah. He hasn't done the Michael Cain thing once. Not once. Michael Caine. Michael Caine. Michael Cine. Michael Caine. Yeah, let's celebrate a little bit of nice British history for a second.

Marco Coyne. Markle Coyne. That's how you know it. He's been like, a man, he brings her down. Like, yeah, they grape it? Well, that's all over now. When we last left Jimmy Saville, the year was 1963, and 13 allegations of sexual assault and abuse

had been made against the most evil man in England to various police stations around the nation over the course of just a few months. Not a single one of those reports, however, had resulted in any sort of investigation. That's why we should give those cops guns. Wouldn't give him confidence to work harder? Partly, this is due to the fact that even though Jimmy was just starting to get famous, he had already formed numerous meaningful connections with law enforcement.

Even worse, it's likely that the coppers were letting Jimmy know that people were making reports. But instead of stopping his increasingly monstrously. behavior, it seems like Jimmy Saville figured that he needed to do a bit of public relations. Something to bolster his public image and convince the people of Britain that he was a good person, if a strange person. As we said last episode, charity would become Jimmy Saville's most effective camouflage. But before Saville came to be known as the most successful philanthropist in England, he had his mother, aka the Duchess. See, I don't think it's a quintuble. See, I don't think it's a coincidence that Jimmy's first public appearances with the Duchess occurred in

1963, which was the same year that the first wave of allegations began piling up against Jimmy Saville. Starting in 1963, the Duchess became Jimmy Saville's constant companion at film premieres and on holidays, his steady date, so to speak. And even though Jimmy Saville spent a lot of time on the road in his caravan, he would live with his mother whenever he went back to his home base in Leeds. This, however, was not because the Duchess was pleasant company. The Duchess was cold and unpleasant to everyone, including Jimmy. And anyone who came into Jimmy's orbit when the Duchess was around got treated like a pimp who was just trying to squeeze money from her son. You know, it's so hard with

momagers because they get so involved and they do ruin the whole crew. It ruins the set having them involved. But he says this in the psychiatrist chair interview. Like he specifically says, I started bringing my mother around with me because nobody doubts a guy that brings his mother around. Yeah. And then he started like, like, this is the key to Jimmy Saville, which you bring up later in the episode, is this idea of we're all, like, we all are safe to assume he's kidding. Yeah. Right. Which is this thing that we're seeing right now with the president and all this kind of shit. But if there was one person that told you every single crime that he ever did, it's Jimmy Saville. Yep.

Now, to be fair, it seems like the Duchess never really had any real understanding of what Jimmy's career actually was. She never watched nor listened to any of his shows, and she never congratulated him for anything he did. Because she believed that show business was literally to use a term for puffters and workers. You know what I mean? Like, she was one of those people that believed that it was like not real. Yeah. And from what I can tell, the Duchess still believed until the day she died that her son, like her husband, made all of his money on the Leeds black market. And she was always waiting for the police to come arrest her son for theft because Jimmy Saville was making a lot of fucking money.

But even though the Duchess was domineering, denigrating, and rejecting, Saville was still embarrassingly devoted to her. Jimmy would get up every Sunday morning and take his mother to mass, kissing her hand in deference and draping his arm. around her like she was more girlfriend than mother. As record executive Tony Calder put it, it was obvious that Saville could not have a serious relationship with any woman but his mother while she was still alive. But in the end, Jimmy's plan worked. He developed a reputation as a man who loved his mother, a good man. And his close relationship with the Duchess certainly helped stave off any rumors that cropped up regarding Jimmy's sexual crimes. I bet you he's even stole that whole fucking tack

from Liberacee. Because Liberace famously, you know, he was a bachelor and he lived in his homes and he only ever talked about his mother. But that was viewed as like, my mom, God bless her. Like, she, my mom was fucking, like, because she just she'd be a great duchess.

Oh, yes. She wanted, she wants this life. She wants this like. She kind of like, the way she viewed Barry Manilow, right? Like, in her mind, homosexuals were like, and not in, think if she liked you look much like jimmy savel if she liked you as a man you couldn't possibly be homosexual sure even though barry manlow got his start playing gay bathhouses in new york with bet middler

my mom was always like hold on a season i know i know i don't think i could do this honey come down i'm unfortunately and go outside listen to the divine miss m then come back and we'll talk yeah listen just know the guy who wrote copa cabana is married to a man And I am still I know, I know. Man, that is Lou. Yeah. I know.

My mom was always like, he's a bachelor. He's the bachelor. And then the same thing with Liberace. She always was like growing up. There was no idea. Like, yes. He's just like candlesticks. Yes.

He's covered in jewels and he's got an infamined way. And he songs like this. But because he loves his mother, like it's this whole thing. Like, I've chosen a character. And then it's then real. And I think at this time period, it really, was like, okay, he's a mother guy. Yeah, and people believe what they want to believe.

You know, your mother believed that Barry Manilow was straight because she had a crush on Barry Manalo, and she wanted to think that maybe one day she could be with Barry Manelow. She wanted to be Lola. Yeah, and turns out Lola, big old hog on him. It was so funny, when my mom got divorced to my father, she really thought that she was going to start dating Billy Joel. That is, that's like on the, it might be towards delusion. It might be towards true grief.

We'll, you know, figure it out. But it works the same way with Jimmy Saville, is that people wanted to believe that Jimmy Saville was a good man, that there was a man in Britain who was charitable, who really only cared about helping other people, and was not an absolute monster. And he was like a toy that would go back in its cupboard, and then the cupboard were closed,

and he would start in his penis would go away. Yep. Now, even though accusations of sexual misconduct had followed Jimmy Saville wherever he went from the moment he entered the entertainment industry, Saville was unfortunately incredibly good at his job. The British people found him entertaining, and he had an innate understanding of what teenagers like to see

and what they like to hear. And so a BBC producer contacted Jimmy Saville in late 1963 about being a presenter on the first episode of a music countdown show called Top of the Pops that was aimed directly at British teens. Now, it really can't be overstated just how big of a cultural impact the top of the pops had on not just the UK, but on the entire Western world. Performances made by both British and American artists on top of the pops could be cultural watersheds, and the show itself remained relevant for decades, well into the 1990s,

and it started in 1964. I mean, just a few examples of some of the great performances. David Bowie brought glam rock to the masses when he performed Starman on top of the pops in 1972, to. When he draped his arm around Mick Ronson, it changed the way people thought about male relationships in the UK. And he never did anything wrong. Not a single. Boy George. Never did anything wrong. He just, no, George just kept that one man hostage in his basement, but that had nothing to do with the music any. He pushed the boundaries of gender when Culture Club made their debut on top of the pops 10 years after David Bowie. Hell, even the Spice Girls, who I will legitimately defend

as an important pop group. They broke through on top of the pops. That was where they got famous. Incredible artists. Gary Glitter, Michael Jackson. So many crazy artists were on the top of the pops, man. You hear, and the Spice girls back on tour, Baby Spice had to change her name.

Oh, yeah. To Old Spice. Oh, cute. You can save it. You save it for the rodent. But lurking in the background of hundreds of incredible performances that influenced generation after generation of British musicians was Jimmy Saville.

And Jimmy perverted one of mankind's greatest accomplishments, musical expression, to constantly feed his most carnal desires. I just can't believe Carson Daly wasn't the rapist. You know, honestly, I feel like when it comes to why Carson Daly wasn't, the hair. Yeah, he's attractive. Wrong hair. Wrong hair. Wrong hair.

Now, the first episode is Top of the Pops. aired on New Year's Day, 1964, with Jimmy Saville as the host. The show was an immediate hit. It ran for 42 years and had an average viewership of 15 million people a week. It didn't lose cultural relevance until the 2000s. But in the process, Jimmy Saville made household names out of bands, and he broke countless careers, all while he made himself perhaps the most well-known household name of all, at least within the UK. In other words, In words, Jimmy Saville was attaching himself to pleasure, to joy, ensuring that everyone who watched Top of the Pops associated him with the incredible feelings we get when we hear something

new and exciting. Saville, however, was not the only host. Top of the Pops had a rotating team of four presenters, including Jimmy Saville. But while all four hosts were approaching their 40th birthday when the first episode aired in 1964, Jimmy Saville was the one who presented himself as much younger. While the other hosts dressed and groomed themselves appropriately for their age, according to the standards of the time,

suits and well-groomed hair, Jimmy Saville, at 38 years old, did everything he could to attract attention and set himself apart as, quote, the world's oldest teenager. That's how he liked to refer to himself.

And the other hosts took note. Yes. Saville would appear on camera without explanation dressed as a Roman legionaire or a pharaoh. He liked to wear costumes. Sometimes he'd wear a suit adorned with real bananas

or a hat covered in flashing lights. His hair was also longer than most of the acts, male or female, and he bleached and straightened his hair to make himself look even more bizarre and even more clownish. It's almost like his job was boring and he had to dress like that so people would remember who he was. You know, I also think that he understood about creating a unique, iconoclastic image

that would make people believe, that when you're meeting him, you're meeting Ronald McDonald. Yeah. And he liked being recognized in public. Okay. It's his whole thing. It's the way the whole fucking gig worked. He was so addicted to being recognized in public that they said he was, anytime he was outside

of the UK, he was like a scared little boy. He was afraid because nobody knew who he was. And he needed people to know who he was. Yeah. If he came to America, he's just a creepy fucking old man. Yeah, that's what he was when he came to America. They knew who he was at the Vatican. We know a lot of guys over there.

It's a real boys club over there, if you notice. Now, both the British audiences and the people at the BBC agreed that Jimmy Saville looked odd. But when it came to his bosses at the Beeb, Saville was also, even though he looked incredibly strange, he was also the most professional of all the presenters. He was the one that the producers didn't have to watch or tell what to do, where every other host had to be briefed by a producer before every taping

Saville could go on air without so much as a word, and the man in charge at top of the pops at the BBC came to, as he put it, believe in Jimmy Saville. Saville was trusted, and the freedom earned by his competence was twisted into something evil almost immediately. I'm going to say this as an executive producer. We don't work. There is work here.

There's work to do, obviously. Producer, with no executive in front, that's the person who works. a bit of work. Almost as hard as the co-producer. Yes. And I think that they look at Jimmy Saville. And when they could see somebody that they don't have to lead by the hand, it's very easy to do. He was a natural.

Yeah, he was. Did he host it all the way till the show's end? No, he was one of the fourth. I can't remember what year he stopped, like, presenting on it. I mean, because at one point he just looked too old. Yeah, he was like frightening. Yeah, he's like already, you know, he's already in his late 30s when the show starts. I mean, you can't have a show like this that's aimed at teenagers,

you can't have a 50, 60 year old man coming on stage. You know, he appeared in the very last episode of Top of the Pops. I do know that. He hosted the very last episode. He came back. Now, while Jimmy Saville's reputation as a professional followed him to Top of the Pops, so too did his reputation for having an insatiable desire

to have sex with as many young girls as possible. Making Saville, the host of a show with a live teenage audience, was putting the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons. Because considering how many massively popular bands and artists were constantly performing on top of the pops, I mean, the Beatles were there all the time, the Rolling Stones were there. There was no shortage of prey for Jimmy Saville.

Reportedly, from nearly the beginning, Saville would find a teenage girl from the live studio audience and disappear from the set for 20 minutes into a private room. Once out of sight, Saville, acting off an almost automatic compulsion, would pull down his pants and rape the girl who was often too shocked or frightened to react. An hour later, Saville would be ready to go again.

And another girl would disappear. Don't get that a whoa. You're nice. Jesus Christ. This is wild, yeah. And another girl would disappear for another 20 minutes. And then when the taping was done for the day, they would still be a steady stream of teenage girls

in and out of the 38-year-old Jimmy Saville's apartment because his sexual needs were truly bottomless. But when pressed as to what happened when these girls would be alone with Saville by author Dan Davies, Saville would say he was engaged in, quote, nice friendly things, tea and friendliness. He also said that he only liked girly girls and didn't have time for girls who were too smart. Again, this was Saville knowing what he could get away with. And this was also Saville openly telling people how he did it every step of the way without actually telling them. Yeah.

You see, I tried to tell him. Jimmy, what you got to do is wait till the first door hits the edge off the sleeping cup, and not as high you know, they're ready for penetration from the comedian. Now, who is that? Fivers comedian Bill got me. Now, well, sex was Jimmy Saville's number one impulse. he could also be incredibly violent. A young man who became friendly with Jimmy Saville

said that he was walking to visit the famous TV presenter one day in 1964 when a gang of British street tufts appeared and started giving the kid a hard time. If you've ever been to England, it's a regular occurrence. I remember, Yankee, Yankee, Marcus and I were threatened by little boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was intense. I know, I still owe them money for that. In Dublin, in Dublin, every little boy's a man. Yeah. Well, seemingly out of nowhere, Jimmy Saville appeared like a pedophile Batman and grabbed one of the troublemakers. Saville plunged his thumb

into the troublemaker's eye socket, causing blood and viscera to spurt out. Saville took this boy's eye and thought nothing of it, simply went on with his day. Saville could also get threatening and violent with the musicians on top of the pops. In July of 1964, the Rolling Stones were set to perform

their first number one hit. It's all over now. But they had decided to be difficult once they arrived at the BBC Studios. When they refused to go on stage for the taping, Jimmy Saville personally threatened the Rolling Stones, telling them that if they weren't going to play, they could choose to be unconscious instead, because Jimmy's so-called minders were going to beat them half to death if they didn't make the recording. Stones, of course, played and returned to Top of the Pops numerous times over the years for many more performances. I want to see him try that with Motorhead. Seriously.

God, how satisfying would it be to watch Lemmy beat Jimmy Saville to death? No, I would, God, nothing would have made me. I die of happiness. Just put a cigarette out in his eye. To me, they talked about this scene, and they talk about how he switched, and how he came in the room, and he's Jimmy Saville, clown man, and then all of a sudden his voice drops like three octaves, and then he's growling at you

and you're actually scared of this man. Like, in the altar... Like, Keith Richards was scared of him. Well, there are also... Keith Richards was 17, 18 at the time. But still, if I was an 18-year-old, like, rock star and some old, weird man came back here to tell me what to do, like, how many times rock tars are going to go,

like, fuck you! There's something about him that scared the fucking shit out of that. Because he had fucking henchmen behind him. Yeah. You know, you fuck around at the BBC back then. Rock and roll also is like 10 days old at this point. You know? Yeah.

You know. Saville, however, was not content to keep his sexual crimes to just the BBC studios. His sexual appetite. I mean, you can get as many synonyms as you want. It's truly ravenous. In BBC, they used the term he was an extravagant sexual offender. Yeah. Which to me kind of involves...

Actually, it was the guardian that called him an extravagant sexual offender. Yeah, which to me, you know, I mean... means like a lot of like wigs. You know, like, if you're an extravagant sexual offender, I'm thinking that you have your own semi with all the gear. Yeah, Royce didn't hurt. Spending too much money, not even looking at price tax. Not even looking.

Well, when Jimmy Saville wasn't filming episodes at Top of the Pops, he was roaming England in his caravan with a Jaguar sports car hitched to the back in search of more victims. One of his favorite hunting spots was Scarborough Beach on the eastern coast of Northern England because, as we'll get into later, Scarborough's mayor was also a sexual predator who terrorized the youth of this seaside town for three decades. But when Saville was solo in Scarborough, he would park his caravan on the cliff tops, then unhitch the Jaguar so he could roam the area. Once he found a girl or multiple girls, he'd take them back to

a secluded caravan, where I'm sure the implication was quite strong. But even when Saville was confronted by reporters with the fact that maybe this was a bad thing to do, he would maintain that these girls, they threw themselves at him. They fell in love with them, and then they broke up with him. And it all happened in a matter of days. There's no harm, no foul. In fact, Saville fancied himself as such a coxman that he claimed that many of these girls would mail him Christmas cards for years after the sexual encounters they had in his

souped-up caravan on the cliffs of Scarborough. This, of course, was another of Jimmy Saville's mini-lives. You can't mail a Christmas card to a van. It's super hard. It's super hard. You would need to use Blitzen himself. You know what I mean? I feel like that takes a little bit of Christmas magic.

And maybe Santa is involved. Because I think that if there is somebody that Jimmy Saville knew, it might have been Santa. Also, this isn't helping the reputation of vans. It's not. No. Well, I mean, this is an RV. It's not a van. It's just in England they call RVs caravans.

A rape view. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They also call undershirts vests. Huh, really? A lot of fucked up dumb stuff over there, huh? You're acting like a real cigarette right now. Live from North Korea. The Jimmy Saville continued to show up on the radar of the police throughout the 1960s, but again, nothing was ever done.

According to a report from the London Metro Police's pedophile unit in 1964... Pedophile! Petify! Pedophile! Peterfile. They did. He's calling pedophile. You're aided fire?

He's doing the Irish one. Oh! Well, we'll get into that on the next episode when we talk about Lord Mountbatten. Oh, can't wait for him. Why don't they all have like rape built into their names? Jimmy's so vile. Mountbatten. Yeah, exactly.

Well, according to this report, an investigation occurred in which police discovered that there was a house in Battersea where several girls and a young boy were being pimped out by three men. Jimmy Saville was recorded as a regular visitor to this house, and it isn't a coincidence that the girls in question had escaped from an institution called the Duncroft Approved School for Girls. This institution, which we'll get into in great detail later, looms large in Jimmy Saville's later charity work.

And it's possible that this underage brothel is where Jimmy first heard of the Duncroft Approved School for Girls. Yeah, and instead of where the boys aren't, it should be where the boys should. shouldn't be. That doesn't make any sense. We're trying, man. We're doing our best. We're out of taking swings.

You know, I stand up for you, Henry. It's a hard, it's a hard gig this week. I know it's a hard gig. Where the boys aren't seriously, not as popular as it used to be? I don't know what that is. Oh, you fucking, I think you do. I don't. Where the boys aren't?

Well, there was one boy there. Well, there. Now where I'm talking about. It's pornography, Marcus. Oh, it's fucking pornography. It's pornography. Okay, I got it. I get it.

I get it. But before Jimmy Saville truly dove into his so-called charity work, he was working hard to shore up his relations with law enforcement because Jimmy Saville's relations with law enforcement were probably the largest thing that kept him out of jail for so many years. In 1966, a police officer from Manchester said that he was one of many law enforcement officials who paid social visits to Jimmy Saville's Manchester apartment. This officer said that several teenage girls and several police were a near constant presence at Saville's flat and that his fellow police officers would often disappear into the back rooms with Jimmy's teenage visitors.

This officer, however, insisted, as everyone always did, that all the girls were at or above the age of consent, 16. You can tell. It's easy to do, okay? Like, listen, all you got to do is check their ID is funny. I'm just just, joking. No, no, no. I do it with my pinky. That's how I can tell. No, that's the thing about that you don't know. In the UK at the age of 16, everyone actually gets a, what's called a fuck card in the mail.

And then you just show that fuck card. Actually, it's called like a shag pass. Yeah, shag pass. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this officer also weekly added that in 1966, quote, Nobody had really heard of pedophiles. Yeah.

Nobody had heard of pedophiles in 19. No. No. No. Except for, you know, kids. Why are we asking kids all these questions that? But this was bullshit. I mean, there were multiple police departments in England that had established pedophile units years earlier.

Yeah, now, pedophile unit isn't just them hanging out. You know what I mean? No, they're looking for it. Yeah. Saville had his own pedophile unit. His penis. His penis. Yeah, yeah.

He also had his own group. We'll get to that next episode. But it wasn't... His balls. Where the boys shouldn't be. But it wasn't just the cops who were ignoring and are participating in Saville's crimes. In the mid-60s, a young reporter named Alan Leek spent time with the four presenters from top of the pops. But the time he spent with Jimmy Saville had a far more sinister tenor than all the rest.

Now, to show you just how confident Jimmy Saville was, how he hid. in plain sight and how people simply ignored his evil behavior. Saville, on several occasions, brought an underage girl into the presence of this reporter to show her off before Saville disappeared with her into another room. After the standard Jimmy Saville 20 minutes, Saville would reappear and wash his gross little penis off in the kitchen sink in front of the reporter, which gave the reporter a sense that he had been fully complicit in what Jimmy Saville had just done. The reporter also confirmed that several police officers were regular visitors to Jimmy's flat.

The reporter even talked to some of the girls, who all said that Saville engaged in, quote, quick sex in either his car or in his flat. And these girls were also openly offered by Jimmy Saville to the reporter for sexual favors. But again, when the reporter was asked why he didn't expose Jimmy Saville in 1960, he could only offer the weak excuse that he, quote, hadn't got a story from his time with Saville. Perhaps the reporter bought into Saville's claims that the girls were always making up lies about Saville to get attention, that they were always lying that he'd gotten them pregnant,

even though he claimed to be sterile, which he wasn't. Could also be that the reporter knew that if he took a shot at Jimmy Saville and missed, his entire life was over. It was ruined. There it is. Because who would believe that Jimmy Saville, a man who helped people and loved his mother so much, could be such a brazen monster. Just decided. That's above my pay grade.

That's literally what he decided. He watched all this and he was like, this is so institutionalized, I'm fucked. Yeah, that's nothing I can do about it. There's all these police officers here. He's openly washing his dick in front of me. Yeah. This is, I'm now a criminal. Yeah.

I'm one now. Now, reporters and cops weren't Saville's only enablers in his crimes. Saville would actually employ people to assist him in his sexual misdeeds, men like Dave Eager. Tell her bad name. Bad name. My name's Rodney Kidfucker. Yeah, you wouldn't. Honestly, the name comes from a long line of Swedish kidfukers.

Yeah, it's the Kidfuker line. We, you know, just to say cold, we would have 12 children and we'd murder. with him through the winter. We'd kill them and kill them throughout the winter in order to stay warm and eat them. I'm a kid fucker. I'm a kid fucker. Now I'm a radio DJ.

How you doing? I'm the, I'm Herman and the Hermit's manager. Yeah, nice to meet you. Dave Eager was groomed as a DJ and an assistant to Jimmy Saville in the mid-1960s. Eager was paid 10 pounds a week

to go through Jimmy's fan mail to find teenage girls for Jimmy to contact and rape. Additionally, Eager would make sure that the newspapers knew that all of the girls that Jimmy was having sex with were of legal age. That was part of his job. And that's, of course, when many of these girls were not of legal age. With men like Dave Eager on his side, men who still insisted after Saville's death that they knew nothing, even though they themselves were procuring victims, Saville entered the peak of his crimes in 1966. And he destroyed lives across Britain at an un- imaginable rate for the next 10 years. You know, it's like, it's that whole hide-in-plain sight thing that we've been talking about. You know, it's like, if he, people see him take a young girl and he, like, waves at all of them and walks into the room with her, there's, they got to think there's no way he's doing anything bad.

He just showed all of us that he's going in the room with her. No, he's exactly doing, he's doing his crimes out loud. Yeah. He's, he is unashamed. Yeah. And he believes he's entirely above any form of reproach. And he, because he is. Yeah.

Can't get him. Kevin got them yet? They did. Never did. They never got him. But you know who got him? Oh, St. Peter. Sir Peter got him. Now, by the mid-1960s, Saville was incredibly wealthy

from all the various gigs in which he was becoming one of the most famous men in Britain. Radio Luxembourg was still going strong. Top of the Pops was a massive hit, and he was still DJing at dance halls across England. With these huge paychecks,

Jimmy Saville bought a Rolls Royce, something that he dreamed of since his days is a beven boy. And that Rolls Royce would become one of his trademark accessories along with his cigar. He also, because remember he had a fake Rolls Royce. Yeah, he had actually, he had turned a junker into a, like, a sort of like Frankenstein Rolls Royce. Yes. Now he actually, but he, and he also talked in that,

that interview about how he would always constantly buy a new one because he said, if something happened to me tomorrow, If something came out about me tomorrow, if it was all over tomorrow, I'd rather have that new Rolls-Royce than an old one. And honestly, for Predators, it's great advice. If you've got the money now, you know, right now, if you're just about to be canceled, you know it's coming, buy that car right now. I won't even know that.

This is the time. Because you're going to have a lot more fun talking to your lawyer on a cell phone in the Rules-Royce because you're not going to have a home anymore. You're not going to have a wife anymore. You're going to have a lot of time in that car. Yeah, but remember, always going to, it's going to be eventually the third act of Boogie Knights where you're in

that really nice car, that Corvette, but it's broken down now. Eventually that's going to be your life. Yeah, because you can't afford to fix it. Yes, because that point then, that's when you finally get all the goodwill that we've been begging you for and you blow your fucking brains out. Right? And that's how you turn it all around. That's the kind of apology I

want to see. Well, because Jimmy Saville was now publicly rich, he started doing publicity stunts for charity, making huge shows of donating to the poor, and donating to organizations that helped the sick. These stunts, of course, also did a great job of hiding who Jimmy Saville really was. In one stunt, Jimmy worked in a Welsh coal mine to raise money to buy a guide dog for a miner who'd been blinded on the job.

That's just an example of, like, the small things that Jimmy Saville would show up for. But it's the kind of thing that makes that juices up every fucking local idiot. They're all just like, oh, look what he did. Oh, he gave up to the coal mine. It snorced as do you gave the blonde man a bit of a bit of. I don't think Jimmy several were ever had his sex with a child. Because remember when he helped old brown belly with his dog? Listen, if he was going to do anything, he would have raped that minor in front of all of us.

Because of sheer, I know it, because there's nothing worse than a blind, lost minor. They call their open to be fucked. Open for cork and ass. So he was like nice to those miners. Yeah, to those miners. Yeah. Well, using his supposed time in the Bevan boys, Saville actually managed to insert himself into every coal mining kerfuffle of the decade.

And there were many, the most tragic of which, of course, was the Abavan disaster of 1966. That October, a huge pile of waste material from a local mine collapsed in the town of Avivan after heavy rains. Now, this wouldn't have been an issue had the pile not been located on a mountain above the town against every safety regulation in existence. I knew we shouldn't have put that mountain in the set there. I knew. I saw it's going to be a bit of a problem, man. I can put it on top of the town, there's no problem there. You said it that way?

I actually agree with him. You're going to go down there. We want to be gaped. We know that. But piled on a mountain it was. And when it collapsed in the rain, it transformed into a raging flood of coal slurry, a godly fist of industrial waste. 140,000 tons of this shit

rushed down the mountain and smashed into a local school, killing 116 children and 28 adults. They died horrible deaths, involving either crushing or suffocation. Okay, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I think it's nice that those two Don't go out or be out anymore

Because it's enough as it is to make it as an adult Anyone that digs our way out of there straight to the minds They're great work Jimmy Saville was of course Soon on the scene Fundraising money for the families

Of the Abavan disaster victims And since he was a former coal miner Himself, Saville's efforts Made him even more of a working class saint in the eyes of the British people. He was always very, very good at attaching himself to something that was very emotional. People would make that association in their brains.

Jimmy Saville, good man. Saville, however, would always say he was only doing these events to encourage teenagers to help their fellow Brits, which raised his profile as a good, if strange man, even more. Thank God 9-11 happened here. Yeah, God, he would have been down there with Steve Bouchemmy. Oh, I'm digging out. Oh, man, if those planes hit Big Ben, you just heard they heard gong. You know, and then he goes over there.

I don't know if people would care. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, Britain, they had their, was at March. Well, that was horrific. They had their huge, the bus bombings. Yeah, those were horrific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think if they took out Big Ben, I think that English people would kind of be like, yeah.

All right. You know. Now, in the mid-1960s, Jimmy Saville's charity, it was limited mostly to stunts and events, as he had not yet quite found his way into the institution. where he would commit some of his most heinous crimes. And so, to find vulnerable victims and indulge in his worst impulses, Jimmy Saville spent the mid-60s in the seedy underworld of British pedophile rings, and he actually involved members of his own family in these indulgences.

In 1967, Jimmy Saville took in his teenage nephew, guy named Guy Marsden. No child should be named Guy. Nope. Marsden had run away from home, and he had found Salisden. in London, and Saville wasted no time in introducing Guy to the absolute worst that Saville's life had to offer. Soon after Guy arrived, he and Saville met an unnamed man at a train station in London. This man invited the two of them to a flat for some quote-unquote snacks. This, quite unfortunately, was simply code for sex with actual children. According to Marsden, Saville claimed

that he found young runaways on the regular, and when he found a runaway, he sent them. to this unnamed man's house. At this house, parties were constantly happening, and over time, Marsden attended several of these pedophile parties, where the only attendees were men and children between the ages of six and ten. These parties would last for days, and they constantly moved locations.

Children of both sexes would regularly disappear into rooms with adult men, but either through guilt or denial, Marsden insisted that all of the kids were there, voluntarily and all, quote, had a good time. Where did they get the kids? They were runaways. Yeah, they were runaways like the homeless kids. Yeah, just pick them up off the street.

You can bring them in. And there they were until, God knows what happened to him afterwards. Marsden apparently, one of the reasons why he didn't come forward is that he stayed in, quote, quote, the scene for many years. He kind of made a bit of a place for him there to survive. Yeah, he is a, this is what we're going to see more of this. where Jimmy Saville was kind of a singular offender for a while. And I think that he was trying to keep it to himself.

But as he got older, he was adding to his crew. And he would then, as we know, which I do think is like a common thing, is that pedophiles and rapists of this type tend to form groups. They tend to get together as groups in order to protect each other. So we are going to see this is, I think, on one hand, Jimmy Saville was visiting other people's pedophile networks, and it would take a while for him to build his own. Well, I mean, the one thing that also keep in mind with Jimmy Saville is that one of the things that kept him from getting caught is that his life, everything in his life was highly compartmentalized. Deeply compartmentalized and controlled to the very, very bottom of it.

Yeah, he made sure that he kept all of these things separate. He kept all of these people separate because he said he never wanted anybody to gather around and gossip about him or talk about. about him. And, you know, of course, and it worked. It kept that's, it's a control tactic. You know, if you isolate somebody, you can control the entire narrative. If you let them talk to other people, then they might figure out that what's going on is really fucked up. Yeah, and it's also like you're so brazen with your assaults that no one's going to believe that you would actually do that. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Jimmy Saville had proved with Top of the Pops that he was a hit with the British people. And even though his reputation as a sexual predator was well known at the BBC,

they still gave him another show on BBC Radio 1 called Saville's Travels. In Saville's Travels, Jimmy would roam around Britain in his caravan, chatting with everyday people while promoting his various charity events. But as it went with every job Saville ever had, he used Saville's Travels as simply another avenue to feed his insatiable urges. Since he was going to be constantly traveling, Saville upgraded his caravan with a large double bed, red upholstery, gold tassels, and a stained glass dividing door. It was built for the sole purpose of

comfortably and privately committing sex crimes. And when Saville made his caravan his primary residence, he became more elusive than ever. Now, considering what Jimmy Saville was known to get up to at the BBC studios, there were obvious implications as to what it meant to have him roaming around England unsupervised. Nobody at the BBC, however, even tried keeping tabs on Jimmy Salis. As long as he showed up where he was supposed to and kept delivering ratings, the BBC was criminally hands-off when it came to their top presenter. In the TV show, the Steve Coogan show that I'm watching on all this, they would highlight Saville travels, but it would be like, I don't know if this is true or they dramatize this, but he would like rape somebody and then interview them and put it on the show. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they'd be like, oh, she sounds nervous. It's so cute, you know, but he, the truth is he is. just assaulted that person and then put their voice all across the fucking country. They legitimately just didn't want to get, we're going to see too, which I'll bring up later on, there's a sense of, which I'm finding,

you know, we've seen it before, but it's specifically noticeable here of the British police a little bit being like, ew. Yeah. Oh yeah. There's a little bit of... There's not a little bit of that. There's a lot of that. And their hats make them look like little penises. You think.

Right? You can look a bed end. It's like they, there is something about, we're going to see this with necrophilia. We're going to see this with pedophilia. There's a whole, there's a whole, like, English people don't do this vibe that they are trying to say that it's embarrassing to talk about that these are crimes that are embarrassing and that you can't just

like kind of bandy all these things about and they just don't want to get involved. There's a paradox with the British people where they're at the same time, They're both disgusting and just a fucking filthy people. Yeah, which I like that. I like that about that. I love that. Makes me proud to be a British descent. But they're also, they don't like to talk about it.

No. It's highly embarrassing and offending to talk about their sexual peccadillos. But they still do it. Yeah, they do. Yeah, Fred and Rose West. Now, when it comes to house... I'll give her a portion. I'll break her off a portion.

Well, speaking to being British, when it comes to, how Salval got away with all this for so long. It's my personal opinion that the British concept of cheekiness plays a massive role here. That's also across the fucking board, dude, just being fucking, we see America also we took, we really define that. It's just a joke. Oh, yeah, it's just kidding. People can wave off all manner of horrible things by calling it cheeky.

Locker room talk, as it's been said here in America. Yeah. And Jimmy Saville figured out in the late 60s just how effective cheek. could be in obfuscating his true goals. For example, in 1967, Jimmy Saville was invited to be the guest of honor at an event in the civil parish of Otley in Leeds. Saville was invited by the mayor himself, Ronnie Duncan. But... Ronnie Duncan, you know what he's Duncan here?

But Jimmy Saville agreed to this event under six conditions. That's a lot of conditions. But these conditions eventually became. standard for most Jimmy Saville appearances. You might call it Jimmy Saville's rider. Yeah. First, Jimmy Saville's fee of 200 pounds should be donated to a local charity. Great.

Nice. Second, Saville was to be given a tent in the local park where he would sleep every night. Okay. Third, Saville demanded a so-called honor guard of six teenage girls to, quote, keep him safe at the campsite overnight. Can I just say, can I just put my head in here? I do believe that right now. That's an obvious no.

I just feel like that That might be Bitter I would say I'll be overreach He wanted them all to have red flags And be waving them Yeah And he put it

I think he purposefully put that As the third condition It's right in the middle Fourth, Saville demanded A special tour of Otley Hospital And a painting of the hospital Had to be made And honorably presented to Jimmy Saville

And finally Savile Requested all the cigars And matches he desired along with an ashtray. He's also quite a lover of fake awards and fake honoraries. That is one of his favorite things in the world is for people to give him things. The obvious standout on his writer

is, of course, the six girls. But while some of the council members in Otley were apprehensive when they heard this, oh dear. We only have four extra girls. That's the sound of every British person covering up crimes of this entire

series of my I'm obviously obviously well Mayor Ronnie Duncan readily agreed to all of the conditions You bet Jimmy know that I like better

Yeah I can find you a couple extra girls Because you know the appearance of Jimmy Saville at a civic event Guaranteed record numbers In fact the six girls provided to Jimmy Saville as his honor were all daughters of local counselors and businessmen. And they're these fat fucks.

They're all do the same. They're all like, hey, you have mortal. Yeah. Yeah. Now go kiss him. Yeah.

Go kiss Mr. Savo. Yeah. Much of that is shit. How many times? Oh, yeah. At Disney, I was forced to kiss Aladdin. Do you rip?

What? Go give Aladdin a kiss. Go give Aladdin a kiss. Yeah. Why did you have to go give Aladdin a kiss? Out of everybody, Aladdin? Go tell Aladdin you love him. I was always, me, I was, I was, I was, I was.

I kissed Smee. Sme's a wonderful. Smee needs a kiss. A grateful kisser. A generous lover, as they say Smee is. Decades later, one of those girls from Otley told her story,

and it was just as harrowing as you could imagine. That night, Jimmy plied the girls with Vaca, but stayed sober himself, as he always did. Then he, quote, unquote, tried it on. with each girl in the tent. Now, this woman refused to elaborate as to what tried it on, man, but she did call Saville a disgusting old man

and a pervert. In addition, a group of boys from the local rugby club shot out Saville's lamps at the campsite with air rifles. So Jimmy lost it and got into an actual physical altercation with a bunch of teenagers.

And he's about 3940 at this point. As the witness put it, Saville was violent that night, really nasty when he took turned. Scary. And this amongst all the other stories we've told is why we're pretty sure that Jimmy Saville probably killed someone

at some point in his life. In his defense, a bunch of rugby teenagers, I mean, you just want to fight them. A rugby club does inspire violence. Yeah. Being a 40-year-old man trying to attack me while I'm trying to have sex with these little girls in my

van and you interrupt me? I'm getting a fucking shalack. That's a fucking certain. It's a scrubby thing to do. I got a lot of work going on. Are you the idea how hard it was to groom these children? Concerning murder, Jimmy Saville may have simply gone too far on occasion and it accidentally killed someone. He may have ordered one of his many goons to kill someone who was inconvenient, or he may have just tried it on once or twice just to see what it felt like.

At the very least, we do know that he is responsible for many deaths by suicide that came as a result. result of his actions. But as far as why he didn't cross the line into serial killing, I think it's because disposing of a body was far too much of a hassle. It's a guaranteed investigation. And Saville's guiding principle, remember, was to only do what he knew he could get away with. But more than anything, I think Saville was sort of like David Parker Ray, the toy box killer. While Ray certainly committed a lot of murders, he also let a lot of women go, because he, like Jimmy Saville got a charge out of knowing that his victims had to live with what he had done. I think Jimmy Saville reveled in the trauma he caused, just like he relished the memory of finding

the severed hand after the Nazi bombing raid he survived when he was a young boy. Well, you know, his main concern was rape. And I think that he got enough of it to not have to worry about covering up his crimes, like, in a way. I think that he would kill... I think if he killed somebody he killed another man. I think he probably killed another man Or a child

Or a child accidentally Because I actually think that weirdly He's he's too much of And this is a horrific statement He's too much of a pussy to murder Like I don't think he's there to murder all the time I think he's legitimately He would want his goons to do it

Yeah you had people to do it for him Eventually Old Jim the Pell Whatever the fuck Jim the Pell did Yeah Bad Yeah I think that it's likely

he murdered a child. During one of those, you know, the rings that he was in in the 60s, like, they didn't just let those kids go. No, they did not, no. Now, Jimmy Saville had learned by this point that people would let him do whatever he wanted just so long as he was able to claim that it was all for charity. And so Jimmy Saville began demanding tours of local hospitals when he attended an event, or when he was taping a segment for his BBC Radio One show, Saville's Travels.

See, Jimmy Saville had discovered during his work at the Leeds General Infirmary that hospitals could provide him with a captive audience and a vulnerable victim pool. But this wasn't the only reason behind his tactical evolution. See, by the mid to late 60s, Jimmy's age was starting to show. Saville hit 40 years old in 1966, and his act wasn't quite as cute as it had once been in the eyes of many teenage girls. Yeah, because he's a fucking ghoul. Yeah. So, to continue fulfilling his twisted desires, he pivoted to environments where his victims were confined to a bed, completely captive, or easily manipulated.

And so, by the end of the 60s, Jimmy Saville had crafted an image of himself as a champion for the sick and disabled, the consummate volunteer. Saville, the social worker they called him. He was a role model for Brits, young and old. But in reality, Jimmy Saville was, as one former victim put it, simply positioning himself to use the UK's national health service, hospitals and facilities as his own personal pedophile sweet shops. Gross, Marcus. I didn't say it. You're disgusting. You actually did say it.

Well, I didn't, I didn't originate it. I didn't originate it. I never heard pedophile sweet shops before. One of his former victims said it. Oh, okay. I just said that. Honestly, I don't think. One former victim, put it that way.

We're coming at sweet chops hard. Yeah. And listen, it's not just pedophile. Sometimes it's big fat guys. Yeah. We like sweet chops. I love sweet chops. So skinny guys love sweet chops.

I know you do. I know you do. This puts like a whole new meaning to you can't have your pudding until you have your meat. You can have your pudding. Do you have your meat? That's fucking, now I'm like turned. I'm very upset. Hey, you did it yourself.

Do you think that that's what they were talking about? No. Maybe. You know, pudding being. Pudding is a different in, in, um, pudding is different in UK. Yeah. Pudding is a steamed dessert. Oh, I'm sorry.

I forgot who I was with. Yeah. It's not a cum allegory in the UK. Yeah, yeah. It's more cakeish. It's a cake. It's like a steamed bun. Yeah.

Well, now I want some. See, and that's what I turn it right back around. Yeah, next time we go to England, if they allow us in, we'll take you out for a great pudding. Oh, wow. Toffee. We'll get you some toffee pudding. Toffee pudding? You're going to love it.

You'll like it. Now, while Great Britain's NHS is largely funded from taxation and gives you, you'll give you. universal health care to every citizen, charitable fundraising to support the health services is a long and treasured British tradition. NHS fundraising covers things like amenities for patients and staff, medical research, and the renovation and improvement of facilities. Jimmy Saville became a master at all three categories, and his fundraising ranged from prizes for NHS staff at social events to the construction

of entire buildings. So once the hospitals saw Jimmy Saville's value, he quickly built up goodwill. He'd start by pushing old ladies around in wheelchairs, making jokes and being cheeky. But before long, Jimmy Saville would find himself in operating theaters, witnessing open-heart surgeries as a guest of honor. But Jimmy's real purpose was to establish himself as such a constant presence that people would forget he was even there. And once he made himself irregular, he found,

that he could get away with damn near anything. As such, it was determined that while Saville was supposedly devoting his time and energy to helping people at NHS facilities, he sexually abused patients and staff at 34 hospitals, five mental health units, two children's hospitals, one ambulance service, one children's convalescent home, and even a fucking hospice. Saville's a horny guy Now this is What I find interesting too is that of all of the places That you'd want because I think that's that that's kind of a lot of what the Sentiment was about Jimmy Saville when he first started being

Like literally openly obsessed with coming to the hospital Yeah Where they were all like This is not like while we do our best to make this a nice place This is not a pleasant place to be No This is a hospital And then the fact that like and we're dealing with

Sick kids we're dealing with really sad stuff We're dealing with something's not cute, right? We're dealing with all these things. And his insistence on showing up again and again made them all be like, it was more like a, it was like a, oh, thanks, Jimmy. It was like, oh, okay, Jimmy, if that's what you want, yeah, we can get you a room. But that was the people at the hospital. Yes. Outside of the hospital, when people saw that, people thought, oh, my God, this place that I would never in a million years ago, he likes it.

He loves going there. That is the same as thinking Barry Manilow is not gay. You know what I mean? Like, nobody wants to go. Like, yes, it's wonderful what he's doing. Nobody wants to go to a children's hospital. Yeah, and to be there constantly all the time. And I think there was also a little bit of transference with the British people where it's like,

well, I don't have to feel guilty about not helping these people out because Jimmy Saville's doing it for me. He's doing it for me. So it makes me feel good. Man, I can't believe you want the hospices. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, man. Those chicks are gross. you're bad

I thought that's what you were talking about I heard at the end of this tour Baby Spice is going to have to change your name to Hospice Spice Save it in again Save it forward the road Hoss Spice Hostpice

Hostpice Well it's a different spice But again I think it's nice When everyone's consensual And you have big-titted nurses That are trained And you and handsome nurses That are trained

For people that are consenting to be around handsome and big-titted nurses at the end of their life. And I think that that's why Hostpice is going to change the whole end-of-life game. What is the minimum of cup size to be employed by Host Pice? That's fine.

C. Five inches as a man. Really? Yeah. Five with a C? I would say more like a five and a half, six. I'm trying to kind of open up. They're trying to make more guys in there.

Okay, it's really hard. All right, yeah. Now once Saville gained the trust of a hospital or a facility, he was often given keys so he could come and go as he pleased because Jimmy Saville's a busy man. You never know when Jimmy Saville's going to show up. And in some cases, he was even given private quarters on the site. Quarters, rooms that he kept for decades.

I didn't know they had quarters in England. Private rooms. We can't cater to every one of his injuries. Okay. It's over there. They call it a boot. It's all fake things. His own 50P.

Yeah, 25P. They call it P. I call it. Thank you, Eric. About all the NHS institutions that Saville befouled, there were three that could be considered his favorites. In interviews, Saville often said that he got so much enjoyment from these institutes that he should actually be paying them to allow him in. He did. These institutes were the Duncroft-approved school for girls,

the Stoke Mandeville National Center for Spinal Injuries, in the infamous high-security mental facility known as Broadmoor Hospital. Oh, all these destinations, vacation destination. Yeah. Places I want to go. In the halls of these institutions, Jimmy Saville found the most vulnerable, docile, and malleable people in England, and he abused them for decades.

I feel like this is really where we're going to see the heart of why he made it to the Mount Rushmore of evil. This is it. Yeah. Live from North Lane. Now to get the full scope of Jimmy Saville's crimes, let's go through these institutions one by one. Starting with a frequent subject here on last podcast, I think it's the facility we've spoken about the most, Broadmoor Hospital. It's like Arkham Asylum, but with mushy peas. Built in 1868 as a criminal lunatic asylum, Broadmoor is a 53-acre facility built on a ridge overlooking the countryside in Berkshire.

In 1949, its control was transferred to the Department of Health, who redesigned it as a special hospital that treated patients with mental illness and or dangerous, violent, or criminal behavior. In other words, not everyone in Broadmoor is dangerous, but many patients were and are. The facility was overcrowded, understaffed, and run like a prison until 1957 when a doctor came in to modernize Broadmoor. A little over 10 years later, Jimmy Saville showed up on Broadmoor's doorstep, offering to help improve conditions and improve the facility's image. Now, Saville was drawn to Broadmoor by a patient in 1968. A guy sent Jimmy Saville a fan letter containing a Brazil nut set on a wooden plaque, inscribed with the words, Nutter's Inc. Jimmy Saville. That's fun.

It's fun. It is. And along with this ornament was a letter from the patient, asking Saville if he'd hold an event at Broadmoor Hospital. If he did, the patient said that he would make Saville an honorary member of the Broadmoor Nutters Club. This is actually a real club, organized by Broadmoor patients. So Saville wrote back saying he'd be happy to. Is it Broadmoor's Nutter's club a bunch of like serial rapists and murderers?

Like literally? Not all of them, no. Oh, good. There's some. There is a part of the hospital. Yes, is serial murders, rapists, and pedophiles? All of the matter of the worst villains in the UK's history. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, you know, the West, you know, Rose West, I believe was at Broadmoor. Oh, yeah. Myra Henley, Peter Sutcliffe. We'll talk about him next episode, definitely. That's how they got to be friends. Yes. We'll talk about that next episode when we get into Jimmy Sallow's Adventures in the 80s. They were friends.

Yes. I don't know who this is. The Yorkshire Ripper. Yeah. Oh, sounds like fine. Was he fat? He ripped pants? Is that what it does?

Yep. Was he a big fart? Yeah. He was a funny guy. It was originally the Yorkshire Tudor. Yeah. No, he killed girls. Yeah, about 14 or so?

14 year old girls or 14 girls? 14 girls. I believe one of them was pretty young. Interesting fact, the drummer from Joy Division was actually questioned as a possible suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper case. because he drove a van that was very similar to Peter Sutcliffe's. That's why they're so sad. It was because that one guy couldn't stop dancing. Well, the event at Broadmoor, Jimmy Saville's first event at Broadmoor, it was a huge success.

And because Jimmy always had an instinct for opportunity, he immediately asked if he could stay later on in the evening to entertain the staff. and Jimmy Saville ended up sleeping on the premises. Which is just like, it's just like you're going to go and you like Broadmoor? Yeah, you know. The mental hospital. Jimmy, well, I mean, there are some people who truly do enjoy this type of work. But it's work. But to like, be like, oh, I'm staying overnight.

You know what I'm being like? Oh, we're having to sleep over y'all. Yeah, that's a lot. Well, Jimmy established himself in Broadmoor literally overnight. And he quickly got to the business of turning Broadmoor in the way. one of his many sexual playgrounds where he would abuse the mentally ill for his own pleasure. Saville was soon bestowed the title of Honorary Assistant Entertainment's Officer at Broadmoor, and he was given unrestricted access to ward areas even within the secure perimeter.

He had all the same access as the head of the facility. Saville established a regular presence at Broadmoor by putting on concerts or disco nights every Thursday evening. and he was allowed unrestricted and unsupervised access to chat with whatever patient he wanted any time he wanted to do so. On the days that he would film an episode of Top of the Pops, Saville would immediately drive to Broadmoor after the taping. And in Broadmoor in the TV room, he would watch the episode with Broadmoor's psychiatric patients. Sometimes he'd even bring guests from Top of the Pops with him or dancers from the show.

One time the popular go-go group, Pans People. He brought them to Broadmoor once. Pan's people? Extraordinarily popular. Their Wikipedia page is so incredibly long. It's insane. How much information there is about Pans people out there. All female dance troupe, famous for their residency, on the top of the pops, they were just, oh, they were hot chicks.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like taking the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders to the mental hospital. Yeah. That's an extremely long Wikipedia page. Why? Why is it so long? How do they have so many credits?

People love them. Yeah, British people get really obsessed about things like this. I get it. Well, once Saville established himself completely at Broadmoor, he began taking patients out for rides in his Rolls-Royce, where he would, of course, sexually assault them. Despite the fact that Broadmoor was a high-security facility, Saville even snuck some of the younger patients out

to see tapings of his TV shows. Those patients would, of course, be assaulted at BBC Studios. He also had a specific ability, which I think goes with a lot of predators, where they can sniff out people that have been predated before. And I think that's a lot of this, too, is the reason why he would also go into these spaces of people that have also either come from, they either have problems, come from institutionalized problems, come from family problems, that he can do the thing where he can do the thing that pedophiles and predators do and say, this is me loving you. Yes. Yeah, he knew how to do it. And also he knew that he could just tell these patients like, we're not supposed to be doing this right now. We're not supposed to be outside of the facility.

You're not supposed to be. I'm sneaking you out. And so if they tell, then if they say like, hey, this guy rape me, they would also be telling on themselves. Not just that. When they get back, the other patients there would be like, oh, you're so lucky for going. Perhaps. I got to say, I do wish I could have been driving when I was doing it. But I test the cars didn't come out yet with the self-driving option.

Now, Saville had total access to Broadmoor from 1968 until 2004. And while the Department of Health found only 11 allegations of sexual abuse reported by patients... So only 11, but between 1968 and 2004, I mean, the real number is certainly triple, quadruple, hundreds possibly. Ten times, ten times. It is like literally he was doing it for decades with impunity. as a group. Yeah, they wouldn't write it down when people would complain. Yeah. But for Saville, Broadmoor wasn't just about his own physical gratification.

He was also learning, teaching, and commiserating with other men who shared his predilections. According to a psychiatric nurse who worked at Broadmoor for 30 years, the pedophile patients gravitated towards Jimmy Saville whenever he was there, and they often had long private conversations. It's almost like they had work. shops. Dude, he like, again, this is a thing that happens with pedophiles. Yeah. This happens.

They just, they sense it. And they get together and they, they strategize. And then this is a thing that, like, they all said this is that they would find him. They'd be a Jimmy Saville would go missing. Famous, Camille, famous man in the world. And he's hanging out with a bunch of pedophiles around him in a circle. Laughing and fast off. Holding court and talking to all of them seriously, like talking to them closer than he would

talk to the patients and close to the staff. Yeah. And they're all like, like, but they'd all go like, no. Actually, no, they wouldn't. Like the staff knew there was something wrong with them. I mean, how could you not? Yeah.

Like the nurse that told that story, they said that they long considered Jimmy Saville, as did many of his colleagues to be a man with a severe personality disorder and a man who had an obvious liking for children. But because Saville had charmed, the administration, and because he was good press, no restrictions were ever put on Saville's visits. Because that's the thing, Saville's, he wasn't just assaulting patients.

He was assaulting staff in these hospitals as well, whenever, whatever he could get away with. And the administration was always turning a blind eye. He was raising millions in the 60s and 70s for these places. Well, the thing is, is that once he's in, right, then he can do really whatever the fuck he wants. because if they start coming, sniffing around and investigating, guess you gets on the hook?

Yeah, Jimmy Saville, the fucking hospital. Yeah, so it's like the hospital goes on the hook, which is the thing that they do all... You gave them keys? Yeah, like literally. Everybody's fucked. He has now come in, he has polluted his place like a fucking cancer, and now you can't get him out.

It's all about the complicity. Yeah, he implicates everyone there. Yeah, and because of that, his access was truly unlimited at Broadmoor. Until the 1980s at this hospital, all female patients had to strip naked for their baths under staff supervision. Saville was not only invited to attend bath time, but he often did so while making inappropriate remarks about the patient's bodies. I guess he was allowed to be in there as long as he was in roast mode. Yeah.

They're like, well, as long as you're making phone with eventual eel, that's fine because we're all trying to laugh as well. So do they bathe them clothes now? No, no, they just don't. make them undress in front of staff. Yeah, they don't wash them like a bunch of barn animals in front of everybody. Yeah, they decide, you know, they're trying. They're trying, Eddie. What'd they do with all the hoses?

Donate them to the local car wash. Yeah, dude. I hope they did. Yeah. I hope they did. But perhaps even worse than Jimmy's exploits at Broadmoor, which we'll explore further in the last episode. Yay!

Was what Jimmy Saville got up to at Broadmoor's sister facility, ramped in psychiatric hospital. Patients at Rampton were all mentally disabled, or in Jimmy Saville's parlance, subnormal. These patients were naturally drawn to Saville's clownish appearance and demeanor, and while none of these patients reported abuse, I mean, most of them didn't even have the ability to express that they had suffered abuse. Several of the staff at Rampton confirmed that Saville had unlimited, unsupervised access to Rampton patients for decades. Now, as if preying on the mentally ill and the mentally disabled wasn't bad enough, the second... I'm still on Jimmy's side. Yeah, this is the Mount Rushmore, email.

We're going to need to ramp this up. I mean, unfortunately. We're going to need to ramp into this up a little bit. Well, the second of Jimmy's three favorite facilities was the National Spinal Injury Center at Stoke Mandeville. Many of the patients there were paralyzed either temporarily or permanently. In investigations found that Saville abused... at least 63 people connected to Stoke Mandeville over the decades he spent there, although the real number, again, is certainly far, far, far higher.

Saville warmed his way into Stoke Mandeville in 1968 while making an episode of Saville's travels. And even before he began taping the episode, he digitally penetrated a young patient's vagina after asking her to come sit in his lap. He got away with it, so Saville knew that he had found another playground. Stoke Mandeville is where Saville infamously volunteered as an overnight porter, transporting both the living and the dead in the middle of the night when no one else was watching. According to several staff, Saville was creepy and particularly loved taking bodies to the mortuary. Here, of course, is where we get into the necrophilia. Oh, yeah, we do.

Now, Jimmy Saville gave an interview in the early 70s in which he revealed why he loved working at hospitals, and specifically why he loved working at the morgue. He said that he had an aptitude for dead people that when he was holding somebody that just died, he was filled with tremendous love. Apparently, the person doing the interview didn't ask him why the fuck he was holding dead body. Yeah, how often are we holding this dead body?

Like, how often is this happening? What's the scenario weird? When is it happening? Does their families know that you're holding these dead bodies? I usually just grab at them. Honestly, when I'm dealing with bodies, normally it's with pitchforks. And normally I'm kind of in the middle of like a cleaning up a warlike situation. So normally when I'm handling dead bodies, I'm like, when is it going to be 5 p.m.?

Yeah, I just like the lift and drop. You know, just lift up the hand, let it pop down. Lift up the hand, let it plop down again. Do you know that the BBC, they only have, they have, this is the official count of victims from the BBC. It is 214. 2.14. That's the official count. The official count.

And that's across every... That's at the BBC. That's all the hospitals. That is mentioned accusations. Wow. That is reported accusations. Damn. Well, Saville said that he was filled with envy when he was around a dead body because the dead

had left behind all the problems. If somebody were to tell him tonight that he wouldn't wake up the next morning, he said, it would fill him with tremendous joy. At times, he claimed that he couldn't wait to die. And that's, for me, it's such an interesting, it's such an interesting statement because it almost says that it's on some level, he knew that he was a monster. That he was an aberration.

He knew that like the world is going to be a better place when I'm not here anymore. But he also believed that in a way he was better than the rest of society. Like what you're seeing here is a true narcissist. And he also died with a smile on his face. Yes. And he, because I think that this is the same connect. I feel that these are all the same as a multi, multi-millionaire living in an RV on purpose. Right?

Like he has downgraded. He has no physical possessions. These clothing is one thing, right? They would say he had clothing and he would get these types of stuff. And he had apartments throughout. Yeah. But he was obsessed with appearing as this sort of like, I'm just a humdrum, man of the people. Yeah.

that just washes his underwear in the sink each night. I don't bring multiple pieces of underwear. He would wash his underwear each night when he would go away when he'd travel. He wouldn't bring any clothes. He would stink. He would do this whole thing. Fucking disgusting. And these things are all things I think that are connected.

Yeah. Weirdly enough because it's fake. It's this fake because in his mind, my call here is that when he's in the RV, he's like, I know life so much better than every. everybody else. And I know that all life is about is raping money. And that's what I do. Yeah. And these guys are all losers for having families and lives and thoughts and emotion. Everybody else is a fucking loser. Yeah. We all know that no British people ever thought like that. No. No. Except for dear, dear, dear sweet Andrew. Dear sweet Prince Andrew.

But as far as what Saville really did with the dead, a fellow BBC Radio 1 DJ named Paul Gambitini claimed that Saville regularly visited hospital mortuaries to satiate his necrophilic urges in addition to the abuse he was committing on the disabled and the sick. Because remember, like Saville is an overnight porter. He's transporting paralyzed people from room to room, and he's alone with them much of a time.

And he would get, he would run to go get the, to take the bodies down to the morgue. And eventually they were like, you're not supposed to be doing this. And to the point where they were like, all right, fine, you can do it. Yeah. He was insisting in doing it. And then he also said that there was nothing like, like, he would go, he would joke about playing with the bodies as soon as they were like, well, they were still warm. Yeah.

And I think that that is exactly what he did. Yeah. And I think that he brought him down there. And I think he gave, like. he gave a couple a couple of honks and licks like literally he put grandma down and he went hong hong like lick this pussy a little bit

and then was like ah you know that's how they start the entire show really yeah it's just like him like hanging around the morgue too often yeah that's how they start that's how they kick off the entire thing that's great there's a lot of things we've covered on last podcast on the left we're like oh there's some exaggerations here

oh you know we don't want you can take this with a grain of salt I think that Jimmy Saville, like what we've been saying before, he's guilty of way more crimes than what's on the fucking paper. We have no idea. We have no idea. And I think that he absolutely was a necrophiliaic. Necrophilia was not illegal in the UK until 2003, specifically as a crime. They viewed, they said that. So necrophilia was like it had never been prosecuted ever in the UK before.

So when this stuff was coming up with Jimmy Saville, after. the fact after he died and they were talking about necrophilia, they legitimately were like, yeah, sure, we have it on the docks and stuff, but necrophilia essentially doesn't happen in the UK. And I would argue, it happens there at the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it happens there's the fucking mom.

Because they're all so pale, they look dead when they're alive. Really not much difference. I mean, I'm not going to start looking dead for like four days. Yeah, exactly, dude. So I feel like these guys are like, they just, it's icky. It was an icky crime, and they didn't want to think. think another example of like, there's no way Jimmy Saville also was a necrophiliac. Well, it's the thing.

This BBC Radio 1 DJ, he said that he convinced himself at the time that none of this was actually happening. The necrophilia wasn't actually happening because he just, he truly said he didn't want to think about how gross it was. Why in a living fuck would he be in the morgue? Yeah. Why would he be going to the morgue? Every single thing he did was about fucking something. Yes. So, Saville continued satisfying his urges in increasingly disturbing ways by taking full advantage a good old-fashioned British squeamishness.

It could be. I never. I'm sorry. Sucal. Briss a one. We're supposed to warm. Tea? Tea. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Concerning the living, one of Salvely, victims at Stoke Mandeville was a 13-year-old girl named Caroline from Glasgow, who was accosted in the middle of one of Jimmy's many fundraising drives at the hospital. And I think this incident tells you so much about Jimmy Saville. Tragically, Caroline had been paralyzed from the neck down after a car accident that occurred when she was very young, so Stoke Mandeville handled her care. This also is unfortunately what made her a target for Jimmy Saville's almost

casual abuse. Caroline said that she was lying in her bed when Saville suddenly took her face in his hands, rammed his tongue down her throat, then walked away as if nothing happened. Caroline did indeed tell her family, hey, Jimmy Saville stuck his tongue down my throat, but nobody believed her,

because nobody could accept that Jimmy Saville, of all people, had done something so horrible. But that's how casual it's become for him. That's casual. That's what I'm saying. It's just so casual. He probably thought it was a joke.

Almost. Not even. It's just that's what he does to people. It's like, oh, you're a lady there, right? You're laying in here. It's a 13-year-old girl. That's in his head, right? Jimmy's brain.

You want to fuck me. All you guys want to fuck me, even though he's talking to invalids and 13-year-old. He's walking around like he's Justin Bieber, acting like this is all like, you guys are all my fans and not people that are legitimately like dead-bbound. That's your example, Justin Bieber? Who else? I guess you got out. Who's the new guy?

Paul Anka? Yeah. Who's going to these things are? I'm singers, man. I feel like he thought that when he was abusing these people, like, in his fucked up mind, that he was, like, doing them a favor. Well, yeah, he will know it's that they were, they should be so lucky that he's there in the first place. You're lucky because I'm setting all this up. I'm going to do whatever I want to you because you're as good as dead anyway.

Now, while Stoke Mandeville and Broadmoor certainly provided Saville with a lot of victims, there was no institution more plentiful nor more willing to give Saville access than the Duncroft approved school for girls. And again, it's insane that people let a man like Jimmy Saville anywhere near this place. It's insane that they let a man anywhere near this place. Yeah, it's, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, but Savo was considered for years to be a friend, an important patron to this institute, all while he abused countless girls inside and outside its walls. Well, this was a very specific facility, too, because this is like, this isn't the other,

like the other ones were obviously between the invalids and the fucking people at hospice and dead men, people's spinal injuries. Huge facilities. Yes, but those were like legitimately bedbound patients. These are girls that have been sent here by moneyed people. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah.

I'm founded in 1948 as an experiment in which psychotherapy. was used to correct behavioral defects in girls placed in its care. Which means cigarette smoking, kissing other girls, kissing a boy before they're married. Anything you just want to ship a girl away for because you don't like what she's doing in front of you? Fun stuff. Duncroft started as something of a mix between a halfway house and a state prison for teenage girls. Owing to the British style of parenting that often left child rearing to institutions like boarding schools, it was thought that it would be better if vulnerable, damaged girls were looked after by the state.

and Dunkroft was considered to be the cutting edge of these types of so-called approved schools. There was not, however, any indication that Dunkroft was anything but a punishment because the facility was surrounded by eight-foot-tall walls, which gave the whole facility a minimum security prison vibe. Now, Dunkroft was a relatively small institution. Out of the 300 girls sent to special schools in England each year, only 12 went to Dunkroft because Duncroft was resolved. for the upper crust.

These were the daughters of ambassadors, surgeons, BBC executives. But none of these girls were sent to Duncroft for anything violent. Most were merely inconvenient or troublesome. Most were so-called bad girls. Where the boys aren't. Yeah.

I've seen some footage. I've seen documentaries about something like this. They were sent to Duncroft for running away from home, using drugs, having eating disorders, engaging in underage sex. In other words, these were girls who wanted to act older than their age. And that made them prime targets

for a master manipulator like Jimmy Saville. Because that's what Jimmy Saville's game is at Dunkroft. It's manipulation. Well, now it's like the, it's almost the, well, these girls, they kind of deserve it. Yeah, no, that's...

This is Jimmy Saville. That is his thinking, yeah. Now, the headmistress at Dunkroft was a woman named Margaret Jones, who often threw garden parties at the Institute and liked to use the upper-class connections of the Duncroft girls to bring her closer

to celebrity in fame. Yeah, this shit was a star fucker. She was a star fucker defined. A string of minor royals and British actors none of us have ever heard of. Oh, what do you mean? Like Dundleby Bubblebutt and oh, I love Ripperton Gendelman. I love

these guys. He played the teapot and the teapot goes to the big Ben. I love British comedy. I love British people. Yeah, it's like, Brian Brongcroft. And it's just like, no idea. Another dead guy.

Yeah. But these people were paraded through Duncroft during the years Margaret Jones ran the place. So when Jimmy Saville rolled up in his trademark Rolls Royce, he was simply another celebrity for Margaret to add to her collection. Later, Jones would claim that she was hoodwinked by Jimmy Saville, defending herself by saying, nobody ever complained about Jimmy Saville? Why would I even ask questions? He was led in so many other places. It's Jimmy Saville.

But from what it seems like... No, the guy's a fucking creep, and he looks like it. Yeah. He's like literally the creep is fucker on the face of the fucking planet. Well, from what it seems like, Saville simply slaughtered himself into Dungcroft's established systems. And Margaret Jones either wasn't paying attention, or she was too dazzled by Jimmy's celebrity status to care about what he was doing. See, the girls at Dungcroft were basically controlled by cigarettes and records, which doesn't sound like it would work, but I'm I will admit that at certain times in my life, the only things that mattered to me in this entire world were cigarettes and records.

And I would have done almost anything to get more of both. Now it's nicotine gum and records. Well, I'm on the patch now. Yeah, yeah. He's got three patches. He's got some on his feet. I've been on Nicorette. It's only been like six years.

That's all. Yeah, he's not addicted to the bad. He's not addicted. No, he's cleared. But you know what it is, too, is there's nothing to do all day. And it's prison rules. It's prison rules because that's like, you know,

when you're in prison, that's the stuff you play for. You play for cigarettes. You play for sweet and low packets and shit. That's what you do. Well, it's not just that, but it's also, it's addiction. They use the addiction to control these gorge. It's using addiction and joy. You know, as far as how the girls at Dunkroft were controlled

by these twin sirens of cigarettes and records, their days revolved around cleaning the facility and working in the kitchen. If they were well behaved and did all their assignments, they got 40 cigarettes a week that they could smoke in the commons room while listening to records. That's fun. But if the girls were ill-tempered or didn't do their work, their cigarettes were taken away, and they would be sentenced to solitary confinement in a silent, padded room for an indeterminate amount of time.

You know, and it's like that shit that you hear all the time. Like, people are, like, wrongly in prison. They start to, like, become, like, what people assume they are. Oh, sure. You know, and it's like that. Oh, yeah, of course. You know. Oh, no.

they're being told they're bad kids and the bad teenagers. So now, like, that's why I think they're, unfortunately, like, the perfect victims for Jimmy Saville. Yeah. When Jimmy Saville showed up at Duncroft in 1974, he immediately saw how to take advantage of this situation. He would arrive with armloads of candy, records, and cigarettes, the currency of Dunkroft. And he would be greeted by a posse of girls every time he showed up in his Rolls-Royce. Like the patients at Broadmoor, Saville would take these girls out for rides in his Rolls Royce for sexual abuse and rape, but it was actually a former Duncroft girl who became the first

person to come forward about Jimmy Saville's crimes, although this girl did so in a clandestine way. Her name was Cat Ward, and it was the online memoir that she wrote prior to Jimmy Saville's death that set reporters on the trail that led them to discover Saville's massive web of evil, although Kat only referred to Saville as J.S. Now, Ward said that, when Saville took her out on drives and his Rolls Royce, just like he did with dozens of other girls, Saville would grope her. He would then promise cigarettes, records, and trips to the BBC. In an exchange, he demanded oral sex. When Kat finally did it, she gagged on his ejaculate, and as she was gagging, Saville leaned over to open her car door as if it was a routine he was well used to,

saying, not in the car, not in the car, almost impatiently. This treatment, favors like cigarettes or trips to tapings in exchange for oral sex came to be known as Jimmy's specials. And they were so common that Jimmy's specials came to be a known phrase around the BBC. But if a girl didn't care about cigarettes or records, Jimmy had a far more insidious tactic. He'd tell the girl that if she didn't give a Jimmy special,

he'd tell all the other girls that the one who'd refused had, quote, ruined it for everyone, thus threatening. total social exclusion. So he knew how to get him no matter what. Like he knew how to manipulate him. Oh yeah, very much so. No matter what.

And to your point earlier, like Catward said that Jimmy Salvo was the third man who abused her before she was 18 years old. Yes, and I also think that the reason why she even had the agency to even speak about it was because she actually came from some form of money,

had some kind of like social backing. That's how she could even kind of even talk about it. Yeah. Well, they talk about it in the I think it was in the book in plain sight, you know, they talk about how at the time it would have sounded ridiculous.

Insane. She would have sounded absolutely insane to say that Jimmy Saville had done this. But it was when, and even like online, when someone, like, when a reporter would read it, they would read it and be like, this doesn't make any sense. Like, what is, like, Jimmy Saville?

What are you talking about? Yeah, that would make him the biggest villain in UK history, you know, like. But then they started putting things together. You know, sort of putting these little, like all of these things together and realized, like, oh, no, this story's fucking true. Also, with his full access to these places, he's going around.

He's talking to the staffers that like him. What's wrong with this girl? What's her past life? Oh, of course. Oh, he's sniffing them out. She was fucked by four dudes and be like, oh, okay, that's a good target for me. I mean, I don't think the nurse should be that cavalier. Yeah, yeah.

They're fucking know how that is these girls. Oh, he's getting spit roasted. Anyways, I got to go wipes. some asses. I'm sorry. But while Saville was obviously a monster, he did have somewhat of a girlfriend that he picked

up at Leeds General Infirmary in 1968. He had to eventually. Yeah, well, but she was also a complete and total secret. It was always a secret. Her name was Sue Hymns, and she was 17 when the middle-aged Jimmy Saville began the closest thing he ever had to

a relationship. According to Hymns, Over the course of a few months, Saville would take her to cheap hotels for sex or various events with celebrities, like when he took her to a photo shoot where Prince Charles was in attendance. Saville had his hand up the teenage girl's skirt the whole time, and apparently the man who is now King of England thought that Saville's antics were hilarious. But strangely, the friendship between Jimmy Saville and the future king is conspicuously missing from the young Prince Charles season of the Crown, now available on Netflix. Oh wow.

Good work, Netflix. Oh, wow. Amazing. Well, I also think that she was just, let's say he was experimenting with, like, maybe I could have somebody. Maybe I could have somebody. Maybe there's a thing here where Jimmy Saville has a wife.

And they had a, him and Sue Ham's had a weird relationship. She, like, moved to Munich in, like, 1970. She got married. married in like 73, 74. He, like, molested her, right? Like, as a kid.

And then they got back together. Well, she got married and then she got divorced in like 1991. And then they started dating again. But of course, he treated her like shit the whole time. He would tell people like, oh, she's a homeless woman that I found. I found her at a shelter. And they just, but they would continue to see each other. But she was one of those people who was like, that was just Jimmy's way.

Yeah. She's a different type of beard. Well, she's an enabler. And I'd probably go as far as to say. I wouldn't call her an enabler. No, I wouldn't say because she's... She's also a victim. Yeah, she's also...

I'd say both, but then I think that unfortunately, sometimes victims become enablers. Unfortunately, it's one of the worst parts about this type of shit is that you can convince somebody, you can rape them, then convince them, oh, that was back in the day, it's over. Now I'm having you here. You then help me, always. Having you in the room helps me every time.

That's why Gis Lane was there. Yeah. But she was in the same position. It wasn't the day. Like Sue Hymns was just like he never told anyone this is my girlfriend. No. He would just have her around and he would insult her anytime someone asked who is this person. I think that's what he'd like to do.

Also, I think Jus Lane was there because she was also good with spreadsheets. Yes. You're right. She was. Because Epstein was not organized. We saw those emails. Now, since Jimmy Saville had developed such a stellar reputation as a philanthropist and a broadcaster by the end of the 1970s, The BBC gave him yet another show, Speak Easy, which was the first chat show ever aired on BBC Radio One.

Over the course of this hour-long program, Sava would talk about what he thought really mattered to the teenagers of the day, which was his area of expertise since he was indeed England's oldest teenager. But according to a researcher that worked on the show, a stream of underage girls flowed into Saval's caravan, which was parked just outside of BBC reception during speakeasy tapings. Additionally, the co-producer of religious broadcasting at the BBC, Reverend John Lang, fully supported Jimmy Saville's access to kids. Marcus, please. Because Jimmy Saville had also done a lot of work with the Catholic Church.

I will not say, you want to talk about the BBC fine. You want to talk about Broadmoor school? Fine. You come from my church? You go for the Catholic Church. You go through my church. Yeah, the greatest church in all the world. God, help us, man.

And also, don't forget everyone, there's only four or five more J.K. Ultra shows left in the stores. Yeah, check it out. Our last one is in Tulsa. Yeah, yeah. Now, since Jimmy Saville seemingly couldn't miss when it came to entertainment, the government hired him to be a spokesperson for a massive campaign in the early 1970s, encouraging Brits to wear seatbelts and cars. This resulted in a BBC series called Clunk Click,

which ran for eight weeks and became a surprise smash hit. We just started doing stuff in the wrong time period. She just used to be easier, dude. I got a whole show about seatbelts. Oh, yeah, let me see you. Is this a child stuck your penis? Get her out of here. She's a slut.

I need you out there back in showing me how to put a seatbelt on. Well, clunk click was so successful that Jimmy Saville's name became synonymous with the phrase. Clunk, click, every trip. Clunk is closing the car door. Click is putting the seatbelt on. And PSA's... Oh, the clunk was punching her wife. Click was...

Loading the gun. That's the American. That replaced Click it and tick it. You're right. I'm sorry. PSA's featuring Savel were just as insane and violent. is what we've come to expect from all PSAs outside of America. Man, I don't know what it is about the British and the Australians and the New Zealanders.

But, man, you guys do PSAs right. It's fucking brutal. True fear. Yeah. One we just watched where the guy gets his face sprayed by the steam and then he cuts back and it's like, ah! And his face is melting off. It's fucking awesome.

Watch out for steam, y'all. Steam's not just for bow bones. But the reason why we bring up clunk click, it's not just because it's really fucking stupid. Clunk click. Every trip. Clunk click sounds like a bunch of fat kids who are like form their own group. What's the cold click? What's the clunk click?

To eat you, not a hot dog. Do I smell an all you can eat buffet somewhere around here? Sadly, I think they would be completely safe from Jimmy Sable. What, doesn't you want to take us in the rose rose? I just love it. You know, all you can eat is easily my favorite song from Crush Groove. Oh, wow. Oh, you can eat.

It's just a whole song by the fat boys about them going to Sabaro. It's so good. And they just rap about how much they love to eat and how much the great it is. The Sabro has all you can eat buffet. We used to be a country. Yeah. But the reason why we bring up Clunk Click is because one episode featured the Great Beast of glam, the terror of

Vietnam, the man who soundtracked almost every sporting event in the Western world for decades on end, I'm speaking of course about Gary Glitter. Now while Gary Glitter is known in America for just one song

Hey! It's unfortunately great. It really is. It just makes me want to have sex with a child. God, I love that song. Actually, that's how I got into, like, my first band is, like, me and my cousin were really high. And, like, just one night, you know, started going, child pornography, hey! Yeah, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-ta-ha-ta-ha-ta-ta-pornography, hey!

And then we had such fun, they were like, we should start writing songs. See? And then we ended up being, and we started a hugs a bunch of freeloader. You never know. Don't forget Gary Glitter's other big hit, do you want to touch? Yeah. Do you want to touch? touch yeah do you want to touch me now yeah he was a massively popular artist in the uk

during the 1970s he was fucking huge and he was also as far as we know the only musician that jimmy savel fully brought into his circle of evil oh good for gary we yeah see while gary glitter is better known for his 1997 arrest for child pornography and the years long odyssey of perversion across southeast Asia that came afterward, he'd been abusing girls in the UK since at least the 1970s, often with Jimmy Saville, and often in plain sight. In one episode of Clunk Click, for example, Gary Glitter was invited by Jimmy Saville to sit down between two teenage girls sitting on beam bag chairs. Glitter settled between them and said, I'll get two? And to this, Saville replied, yes, you get two. I should be giving girls away.

Saville and Glitter then proceeded to grip and embrace these girls on camera, all while the girls looked obviously and incredibly uncomfortable. As it turned out, these girls were actually taken from Duncroft, and they were there on the permission of the headmistress. Each girl had been offered cash to sit on the beambags with Gary and Jimmy, and that's a fucking pedophile duo if I ever heard one. Gary and Jimmy. You don't want to be too with that, too?

If I was a pedophile, like, I'd be so nervous meeting them. You know, like, it's like one of those where I'd be like, oh, my God, they say never meet your heroes. I wonder what's going to be like meeting Gary and fucking Jimmy. I wonder what they're going to be like. I hope they like me. Well, apparently Gary Glitter is about to die, finally in prison. Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on his deathbed right now. Actually, is he in Broadmoor? No, he's just in one of the prisons. Yeah. Reportedly, Jimmy Saville gave the girls cash to be on camera with him and Gary. But he took the cash back after the show's taping. And what was far worse is after Saville took back the cash,

the girls were taken to Saville's dressing room where they were given alcohol and passed between Gary and Jimmy all on BBC property. Now things were obviously getting, let's just say. Is it wrong that I'm like mad about the cash? Yeah. I'm like, I'm just like it's really, it's all the thing. Yeah. That's just the entertainer in you.

Yeah. That's what that is. You know, you just know what that feels like. Yeah, man. Now, things were obviously getting, let's say, out of hand at the BBC. And while investigators got close to Jimmy Saville, they still missed the mark time after time. And that was often because the BBC would not let investigators get close to Jimmy Saville. When a 15-year-old dancer on top of the pops died by suicide, for example, her diary revealed that she had not only been groomed by multiple BBC employees,

but had also been plied with drugs before having horrific sexual encounters with a certain BBC Radio 1 DJ. What she wrote was so bad that people refused to print it. The suicide and the diary led to an investigation. But even though Jimmy Saville was not named as the DJ in the diary, the victim's half-brother indeed confirmed that Saville was their man. Saville, of course, refused to cooperate in the investigation in any way whatsoever. because Jimmy Saville was also learning that when shit got serious, stonewalling was an extremely effective last line of defense.

If you listen to any, like cops did eventually at one time talk to him. David and Mr. Savage and Trump, that's what they do. No, no, no. They just say no, uh-uh, absolutely not. Never happened. Never happened. That was always in getting mad about it. Never backed down.

Yeah. You never admit a fucking fault once. Never say I'm sorry one time. If you say I'm sorry. once. It's over. The whole thing comes down. That's how women get the brain damage.

That's what he would fucking do. Yeah. But while the investigation did reveal that exploitation of underage girls was happening at the BBC, no one was arrested and no changes were made to policy. In fact, the BBC invented stories to discredit the victim instead, making her seem unstable and willing to do anything to be famous. I think that was a diary where she talked about how he smelled. Yeah.

That was the one thing about how it. The smell of him made her gag. That when he took off his pants, the smell of his crotch was so overwhelming. Yeah. And that was also a part of his game. He wanted to make it as bad as possible. He knew that it was even more of a punishment. God, it's so hard to be like, like, I wish you would have fucking just written his name,

but that's also just an awful thing to make. It's a whole thing. It's hard. It's extremely fucking hard. You don't want your life destroyed. As a victim, you get your life destroyed. But she committed suicide. Yes, and that's what happened.

Yep. Now, Saville did make a statement in the wake of the dancer's suicide, but it was only to say that the halls of the BBC were free of seductions, free of drug-taking. Saville, however, also took the opportunity, and this was another one of Saville's big tricks, to admit to a little wrongdoing to distract from his far larger crime. Yeah, limited hangout. He would say, sure, he had sex with lots of teenage girls, but he always made sure that they were above the age of 16, and he always made sure.

He's checking IDs. Always. Yeah. Well, the cops that are in the room at the time are checking the area. Always checking IDs. And he always made sure to visit the homes of these girls and become friends with the parents of the girls he had sex with. Like, you know how that, you guys remember that, right? Yes. Like, you know, when...

Every time I hooked up with a girl, I would go and look for her family on social media. And I'd send a message to her mother or father and say, oh, my God, I was just inside your daughter. Uh-huh. I wonder what you're like. Yeah. You know? What's your deal? Yeah.

Do you like scotch or like anything like that? Like what's your like, what's your dream blount rotation? Hey, listen. I was just beside your daughter. My main question is, what's your Desert Island album? And he was our age when he was doing this. Oh, I know. He was openly justifying this behavior to the press as a 43, 44 year old man.

And they just sat and chuckled. But in some cases, Saville was at least telling something of a half-truth. According to one of Saville's drivers, Jimmy once took six teenage girls into his caravan and all six stayed the night. The next morning, one of the girls' parents were out waiting outside the caravan for Jimmy. But Saville was able to charm the parents so easily with his fame and his oddly disarming manner that they invited him back to their home for breakfast. This is where good old-fashioned American fucking real, like this is the only time I missed this.

It was I feel like you do this in Alabama and you just get the guy rolls up to get you out of the caravan. I can see something. I could see it going another way. Actually, in Alabama, it's far more likely to go the pedophiles way. Yeah, absolutely. Remember the whole, that were Jeff Sessions? Remember that guy? He was the Attorney General of Alabama.

I'm trying to silver lining. In Texas growing up, most of the girls that I would. went to high school with dated men in their 20s, 30s, sometimes in their 40s and it was seen as normal. Some of them even married. I'm desperate for happy. Desper for happiness.

I will say. I'm saying if happiness is what you want, the American South ain't the place to look for it. You're right. Honestly, I forgot. Well, this obfuscation, however, was what Saville was best at. He would change the context of anything,

saying that the girls were of legal age and that the parents knew and approved. And if he had done something truly awful, then surely the media would have reported it and ended his career by this point. He's literally doing the narcissist prayer. Yeah. And by the 1970s, people felt like they knew Jimmy. He'd been such a presence on their TV and their radios

that they couldn't bring themselves to suspect him of any wrongdoing. Even after countless young women and teenage girls reported assaults. God, what does that sound like? Yeah. I was trying to think there are some sort of. modern comparison sick and suck it modern comparison

except the modern comparison could end the deaths of all of us I don't know it was like a guy with crazy hair was always around young girl he talks about he brags about how much he's raped yeah yeah yeah really put himself in

positions where young girls were around he's been a part of the fabric of media for 50 years and has literally been named and almost like in every single piece of media for the last We'll think of it. We'll think of it. Yeah. Well, when you added all of that to his ever-present charity work that was constantly being reported on the news, you know, Jimmy Saville's, added again, it was more than enough for the British people to give free reign to the most dangerous sexual monster of the island ever produced.

Now, Jimmy Saville was not the only person in a position of power who was getting away with crimes simply because the British people couldn't bear to face what was obviously happening right in front of it. them. See, during one of Jimmy's many trips to Rampton Psychiatric Hospital, that's the one that treated the mentally disabled, Saville took 10 patients for a tour of the beaches, and more importantly, the ice cream shops of Scarborough. Saval and his guests were welcomed by the Lord Mayor of Scarborough, Peter Jackanelli, who was another one of the United Kingdom's great sexual monsters. Now, Peter Jackanelli had lived in Yorkshire since the age of seven, but while it was his dream to become an opera singer, he eventually became the 300-pound owner of a successful chain of ice cream shops and restaurants.

That's the fucking dream, y'allel. Parlayed that new mayorship. Big fat guy, run a bunch of ice cream stores and your mayor? Yeah. That's fucking, I'm done. Such was, and that's the thing. He also trained as an opera singer for a long time, so he has a party trick. Well, such was Jack and Ellie's girth

That he actually earned a Guinness record For eating 512 oysters in 48 minutes On national television He's fucking guy so far He literally is the walrus from Elson He was He was He was for the mayor

He was just as massive and gross As he was dangerous And he and Saville We're close friends. This is where we're starting to see pedophile nodes meet. Yeah. Like that's kind of like what I start to understand is that he's starting to meet other big fish that are in his game. And because he's constantly traveling, like he's not connected directly to any of them.

Jimmy Sallel. He's like the guy that shows up at the party every once in a while. Like, hey, Jimmy's in town. Yes. Unannounce he comes through. That's when shit pops off with him. But then I have my own game over here. Jimmy had met Mayor Jackanelli

during an episode of Saville's Travels when Jimmy covered a judo club that Jack and Ellie had founded in Scarborough. This club attracted a lot of young boys, who later said that Jack and Ellie spent most of the judo sessions practicing groinholds on each and every student. Come closer, come closer,

it's time for me to give you the cold. Come closer, child. And so, between the ice cream shops and the judo, huh. Yeah, he's 300-pound man Full of oyster Come on, you try to see if you could smell the sea on my breath

Yeah, a lot of farts in that room Yeah, I have too much iced cream in me Oh my God, I'm having a quinine seizure So much quineine Well, between the ice cream shops and the judo, Mayor Jack and Ellie had access to a lot of young boys and these young boys often attended something called the club, which was, of course, a front for sex parties involving young kids of both sexes.

Amongst the members of the club was Jimmy Saville and many others of the same persuasion. Jack and Alley was never arrested nor investigated, but like Saville, his reputation as a predatory pedophile who preyed on local children. It only came out after his death in 1999. This was after he had served as social. Scarborough's mayor for 30 years. It's like if Pennywise was your mayor. Dude, I think that Jimmy Saville is Pennywise.

Yeah. He's Pennywise in my mind. I can't believe there's no Jimmy Saville ghosts. Yeah. Well, as a man in a position of power, Jack and Ellie regularly made other politicians and police officers complicit in his crimes. And he therefore never faced investigation. Never mind all the clunk clicks that are over there trying to enjoy the fucking ice cream.

Well, these clunk clunk clicks are there. They're obviously gumming up the scene because they're actually eating ice cream And no one's happy about that Because no one thought this is all going to be about ice cream But they're still in their room Can I get another sample? Listen, you're getting too big for me to want to have fucking

What the fuck here? It's not all you can eat, it's all you should eat. But let's just say, I'm a bit of a clunk click, okay? And I don't have a kind of... It just goes right through. You invited the clunk click to the ice cream party. The clunk click finishes the ice cream pot. Now you hand over.

that Cherry Garcia before we set this fucking place on fire. All right? I'll fucking suck cum out of Jimmy Saville and I'll spit it in your mouth if you don't give me that ice cream right to fuck me. I'm fucking, I'm mayor of the clunk click. All boys, we've learned

the pleasures of ice cream and nothing compared to the pleasures of an oyster. Listen, I know. We all know. We had oysters already. We had oysters this morning. Oysters for breakfast. Orthus for luncheon.

Orsters for supper for dinner. Well, Jackanelli, even with Jimmy Saville fed mentally disabled patients from Rampton Hospital directly into Jackanelli's sexual meat grinder, nothing happened. Nobody noticed. Now, Jimmy Saville was effectively unstoppable by the 1970s. Even though several journalists reportedly had dirt on Saville's

sexual crimes, none of those reporters planned to publish because of Saville's popularity and because of the work he did for charity. No one was going to believe them. And then, in 1973, Jimmy Saville got a massive amount of public sympathy when his mother, the Duchess, finally

reached the end of her miserable fucking life. That was when Van Helsing finally found them. He drove a steak to her very hot. Do you think she was cremated in a Duchess oven? Oh, yeah. God.

Infamously, Jimmy Saville did not leave her body for five entire days after her death. That's because he was inside of her. Yeah. Because they were fucking! Yeah. Is that what it was?

That's what it was. And later, he said the time he spent with his mother's corpse, best five days of his life. To be honest, I think that we all talk about him like fucking her. I actually think he was like yelling at her and punching her in the face and shit.

No, there's footage of it. He's just sitting there staring at her. And she was, He's left in repose in a Catholic church, and he's just sitting there. He just stared at her for five days. Wasn't he caught on camera apologizing to her for what he had done? I think so, yeah.

Yeah, there was something like that. But he gave her lots of little kisses. Yeah. He said that she looked marvelous in her casket, that she belonged to him and him only during those five days. The death was a wonderful thing. Those are all direct quotes. You know, it's nice.

You know how you want to. Where do you want to bring your? Your mother's corpse. Where do I want to bring it? Yeah, do you really relax with it. I don't want to bring it anywhere. I mean, I can't just do it at the hospital. That's not relaxing.

No, that's not relaxing. The church is not relaxing. No, it's really not. I don't know, man. I'd bring my mom to the movie theater. That would be nice. Yep, finally watch a movie. Shut up.

It's a little dude, you know. He's a little guy in humor. Like, for the guys. Later, when people brought up how disturbing his statements about his mother's death were in hindsight, Jimmy Saville changed his tune. He said, now, actually, he waited five days to bury her because the ground was too frozen to dig a grave. Jimmy Saville, however, kept the Duchess's room exactly as it was for decades afterward, and he had her clothes dry clean once a year for the rest of his life. This, of course, put Saville in the same playpen as our dear Ed.

And yes, I do know that Jimmy Saville has never proven to have killed anyone. But that's the third serial killer I have compared him to. Oh, yeah. And if a man can be compared to several serial killers, then that makes a pretty good argument for his inclusion on the Mount Rushmore of Evil. You never want to remind anybody of a serial killer. But this is three, a few, and several. Don't you fucking. I am not doing this here.

I'm not doing this today. I thought about this. It's just, like, linguistically, few didn't really work in the sentence. Yeah, yeah. If a man could be compared to a few serial killers, that sounds kind of casual, you know, like a few, no. But several hold weight. Several is a word that, you know, when you need a little bit of oomph. We can all be compared to a few serial killers.

Every once, yeah, sure, one or two, you know. But Jimmy Saville. That's a couple. Yeah, fuck, God, fuck you, fuck that. But when he did the Louis Thoreau series, we see this. Yeah, he showed it. Like, he shows him in his mother's room. But it is why that interview was so important is that you also see Jimmy Saville being like, why are you in here?

Yeah. And being like, I want you to look at this for a second. We don't need to stay in here. And then Louis The Roe's like, no, why is it like this? And you see him try to control it, look at the cameras, know that he's on camera and he can't do anything about it. he's just like, it's a memorial. It's a memorial. Like, he's like trying to act like it's like not strange. He was combative at every turn in that interview.

And he's still convinced Thoreau somehow. Well, no, with Thoreau, I think that it's just because Thoreau was just, he could not fully say, like afterwards now Thoreau saying it's the worst man he's ever met. But he was saying that when he was dealing with him, this was before all the accusations had. I mean, obviously it was well. There were some. He asked him straight up. He asked him.

And I think that he was just trying to be like, In his way, he was investigating weirdos. So the time, he was just like, oh, he could just be an absolute impenetrable weirdo. Because that's what you want to believe. Of course. Yeah. Because I think, didn't Thoreau say that, like, that Jimmy Saville was one of his heroes? Yes.

Yeah. He looked up to him. He wanted him. Even Louis, even fucking Louis Thoreau wanted him to be a good man. He was excited to meet him. Yeah. But once Jimmy Saville's grieving period was over, he was more popular than ever. And after the wild success of the eight-episode-long seatbelt safety show clunk-click,

the BBC offered Jimmy Saville an ongoing show all his own. Just after the death of his mother, Saville took a meeting with the BBC executive who said that Saville had been fixing things for people all his life. That's all he does. He's talking about his charity work. So why don't they try a program where Saville fixes things for people on film? Without a pause, Jimmy Saville agreed to do. do the show saying, we'll call it, Jim'll fix it. J-I-M-A-Postrophe double-l. As Saville put it in the meeting,

the double-l made the title, quote, come easily off the tongue. And it's with Jiml Fixit, Saville's numerous connections to the British royal family and his long-deserved death that we will return next week for the conclusion to this series. That's fucking finished. This shit. You know, though, it's fascinating. It is fascinating. It is absolutely It is incredibly fascinating.

It is really hard. Like it's hard. It feels like really wading in a villain's mentality. Because like when we were doing Himmler, like there's something about the history of it

that allows me to sort of like separate myself a little bit. Like just kind of the grand nature of it, all these fucking horrific machinations. The unspeakable atrocities of the Nazis allow you to sort of like view it more. as like an observer of history.

Sure. Where this is just like, the reason why it keeps coming up for me is just because of how many of these fucks I have run into in my life. Yeah. And how many times I have met people that are supposedly supposed to be important people

that are supposed to run things, aspects of my life. And then you're looking at the face that you know you're looking at a creep. Yeah. And you are fucking bald face locked into dealing with the fucking creep because they deal, they literally suck at the very marrow of your dreams. Mm-hmm. They literally go to the people that have their, like,

like talk about vulnerable. Like, it's the other vulnerable stuff. Like, people that are just, like, come to L.A. to be like, I want to be on television. And then they are just, like, sucked into a fucking machine that destroys their very soul. Oh, yeah. That's why we go DIY.

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And you want to say, I've got a whole bunch of more shows coming up. Go to eddytunes.com to find them tickets. You don't need to come to my room in order to sleep with me. You just need to get a big old picture bill. And you put it out, you put it on the pillow. Yeah, you know what I can do. Yeah. Let me try and.

Find a place for me. It's not as funny this time. No, it's not. It's something for me. It's my pain. Give your sign off. Go ahead. Hail it.

Yeah, inhale, gain. Hell. Fucking. Hell. Fuck. Um, hell. Just. Princess Diana?

Sure. Yeah. Yeah, because she tried to get all the landmines. How's about this? Hail the spice girls. Spice girls. Spice girls. Spice girls are great.

You know what? I gave a lot of shit to baby spice I think she's lovely. Yeah, I think... Oh, you don't know her personally, but... I don't know her personally, but I like her. I like the cut of her chid. So do I.

So... Was that your spice? My spice? Yeah, what was your spice? Which one did you like most? I was an old bay guy. No, I actually didn't like any of them. You don't like any of them?

No, I wasn't a fan. I couldn't stand the Spice Girls. I like ginger spice. I liked Natalie and Bruglia. Ah, very nice. That was my problem. Just thinking about it makes me torn. Yeah.

Yeah. You're fucking pieces of fucking shit. Fuck you. Scary spice. Yeah. Of course. Definitely. There was no bony spice.

Yeah. Wow, you're so, you're so scary spice coded. Yeah.