Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 66: The Dark World of Internet Fetish Sites

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

Inspired by the NYC Cannibal Cop story, Ben, Henry, and Marcus explore the worlds of vore, gynophagia, and Cannibal Cop's favorite site, Dark Fetish Net. We'll also be discussing whether or not the cop was going to actually go through with his planned crimes.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Yeah. Oh, that's Marcus M. Ben with us as always from sunny Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm a raisin' net, Henry Zabrowski.

Raisin' net. I used to be a grape. And now I'm just a scarred piece of just horrible fruit jerky playing jazz. You're calling raisin' nets fruit jerky? Yeah, yeah, they're a lesser fruit. Oh, I see. Even though they're covered in chocolate? Oh, yeah, I forgot.

Which was it? It's just the California raisins. Yeah. You're just thinking of California. Get chocolate out of your brain. I just consider anything, any raisin, to be a raisinette. I just call them, I call raisins pre-raisinets. That's a good thing to call them.

That's very nice. Every raisin, definitely, what do they say, wants to be a raisinette. They all want it. Yeah, they all want it. It would be sad if you were just a little raisin. And then, well, first of all, you start as a tasty grape and everyone loves a grape. Oh, yeah. And you're just a little slobby raisin, and then you don't even get covered in chocolate.

Some toddlers like wet fingers all over you, you know what I mean? And I don't need that outside of when I'm paying for it, if you know what I'm saying. I totally agree. I don't know that kid's crying because no happy baby eats raisins. They need chips. I had to go to the hospital once because they took a raisin and I shoved it so far up into my sinus cavity they had to suck it out with a vacuum. Is that right?

Yeah. Well, that's a bad... So I'm mad at them, still. Good. I think you have every right to be upset with the raisin to try to assassinate you. I know. I know. It's like I'm Biggie Smalls.

Interesting. Well, speaking of assassinations and overall things that will kill. Today we're going to explore the dark world of internet fetish websites. And we came up with this idea after reading a story, it's been going on here in New York City. Yeah. This is like Ben's favorite story on the face of the planet right now. It's pretty fucking awesome.

It's a captivating story about a former New York City police officer named Gilberto Valet. Which is a fantastic name. It sounds like a guy who's selling like Mexican beer. It does. It really does. He conspired to murder and cook and then eat his wife with a couple of co-conspirators on a website called darkfetish.com. No, darkfetishnet.

Darkfetishnet.com. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And he was with what like Chef Boyardee 6ix9ine and like another guy named Ravioli Doctor. Yeah. Meat hands. Meat man.

And we got a taker and we put it in it and we call it raviolines. Oh, it's so, so good and we can them and we sell them to the poor. I would eat that. A person, human meat inside of a nice ravioli, I think that's a fine way to present a tasty person. I was looking online, speaking of dark things on the internet, I ended up on the WTF board on Reddit and I had this vivisection of a human leg looking at a sample of leg cancer. God, it looked delicious.

And those were the sorts of things that Gilbert Vallee would like Jack off to and exactly like Henry said, want to eat. Yum, yum. So he is on trial for a conspiration to kill his wife, Kathleen Mangan. And this is also pre-taco Henry. I haven't had my fucking tacos today. I went and had a salmon sandwich. Salmon sandwich.

I'm already getting hungry just talking about this. I have never, salmon doesn't belong on a sandwich. It's horrible. It does when you're in Beverly Hills, 90210. Oh, please Henry. It's changed you. It's taken meetings, man. Woo, sunglasses on.

Vallee also wanted to kill his college sweetheart, Kimberly Sawyer. So basically what separates this from other people who jack off to certain things on the websites was his, he was really hands on. He bought the ropes. He was really very, very close to doing it. And the email exchanges between him and some Coke conspirators, one fellow in Pakistan known as Moody Blues, were very detailed. And they see.

Does anyone talk with the remaining members of Moody Blues and see how they feel about this? They're not supportive of the name. They're not, they're not totally behind it. But the email exchanges and the chat exchanges were so serious and were seemingly coming to real life that he was arrested and things like that. So now he's on trial and it's quite hot. It's like Jordan, right?

When Jordan was a little kid, yeah, a lot of kids talked a big game about playing basketball in the NBA. All right. All of them were just like, oh yeah, man, I'm going to be drafted number one. Michael Jordan sat there and he was like, no, but you know what? I am going to be drafted number one. And so he went and he contacted his Pakistani friend Moody Blues on the internet and began an email campaign.

It got him to be six Pete, six Pete Michael Jordan, six Pete Michael, although not drafted number one. Hmm, really? He was number three. Yeah. Well, that is a disappointment. But some of the email exchanges between, uh, between, uh, Valet and, uh, this one fella, this was called Gingerbread Witch Tactics and, uh, yeah, it's, it's pretty great.

Uh, Coke and Spirit are one. Can you read that? He says, uh, Coke and Spirit are one. It's really hard to dislocate a jaw. Also, how would we put a, how would we put her over the fire, spitting kills girls, you know, like putting a spit through her? Uh, have you put her in, uh, have to put her into a cage. What's your favorite cut of meat?

And then Valet says, I was thinking of tying her body onto some sort of apparatus, cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible, which I mean, these guys really get a show on the cooking network already. Yeah. Oh my God. It's a, but it's all a part of the slow food revolution going on in the culinary arts room. There's nothing more organic than a friend, you know?

No, they talk about locovore. Indeed. Yeah. He's right next to me. He's eating right out of his house. I mean, it's his wife, but that's kind of nice. God, I'm hungry. Well, let me stop you right there for a second, give you a little bit of insight into what

kind of people hang out on darkfetishnet.com. Now this is the thing. So he, so yeah, so he just went on forums and started just putting it out there. Yeah. He was just right, right. I think, I'm thinking about killing and eating my wife and everyone was just like, me too. I pardoned the pun, but I do think it was a slow burn because he started off and he just sort of looked at it.

I feel like what, what happened with this guy is that happened, what happens with a lot of people on the internet. He got, yes, ended into this situation. He probably just started out with like, hey, well, I love to eat pussy. Yeah. This is the problem with these fucking improv people is that as soon as they get involved in any place, they're just, it's all sorts of shenanigans. They just take it to the dark spot.

Marcus, who's looking at these websites? I am looking at the profile of a man who calls himself Dave hung like a horse porter. Smallest dick on the internet. His net. No, I'm looking at an actual picture of Dave hung like a horse right now. He is 57 years old. Would you like to look them up? Would you, no, Henry, I'm going to send you a picture of him right now.

Let's see. And so you feel like judging by this picture, he is truly hung like a horse. My God. It just, I'm going to, I'm going to show you right quick, man. Here, let me see this guy. It just makes me think of the nine inch, you know, so I was like, oh yeah, I didn't realize when Marcus said there was a picture of him that he was fully naked and you got to see his huge horse cock indeed hung like a horse.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sending it to you right now. Uh, Henry's a Browsky. And so what's horse cock's MO? All right.

So, well, let me tell you about this guy. He's 57 years old. He's here in the, by the way, his username is one Finway fan. Oh, God. Oh, he's the Red Sox fan, of course. Yeah, it says. Whoa, look at that trunk. Yeah, it says.

What does this guy do? Henry, get close, get closer to the computer. I can't hear you. Oh my good Lord. It looks like, uh, it's like a brown, it's like a brown, uh, it's like a stick. Yeah. And he's clean short too. Like a tree branch.

The horse that come into your head, Henry, looking at that sweet, sweet dong, the giving tree. All right. Here's his bio. Hi. My name is Dave and I'm 56 and Mary. Can I read it? Do you mind if I read it?

I go ahead. I wanted to read it, but you. Oh, no. All right. All right. Now go ahead. Hey, um, my name is Dave. I'm 56 and Mary.

Um, I'm into just about anything. I love women. My favorite fetish is beheading. I've not to talk to women about chopping up the head. Let's jerk off in front of women. I have a pretty large cat. He does. The more I've told me when she's all fucked out, no good anymore.

I could chop off her head behind the woodshed. I can't wait. Favorite quote. Put your fucking neck on the block, bitch. Oh, okay. I think that was from the second Winnie the Pooh book. If you read his other, his main fetish interest is decapitation. Read his other fetish interests.

Other fetish interests. Hang about the neck. Ain't all ain't Sarah's chance. Fucking a bitch after a head's chopped off. Tired up. Watch this. Fuck my wife. That last one's all in caps.

Oh, okay. All right. And what I would like to do is someone offline, Henry. Open this up in an incognito window. I didn't realize what I was doing. It might be very illegal soon. Which is something that we can discuss with this valet trial. Yeah.

And if he is convicted of conspiracy to commit murder, it might have a chilling effect on these dark fetish websites. He really does have such a pretty smile, though. That's the thing. Valet. Yeah, yeah. Yes, he does. Here's another text, a nice exchange from him.

This one's called 75 Pounds of Tasty Lady. Valet writes, I love that she's asleep right now. Not having the slightest clue of what we have planned. Her days are numbered. I'm glad you're on board. She does look tasty, doesn't she? Cocoa Spiritor 1. You don't even, you don't even, wait.

You don't know. So wait, this was like the old AOL chat rooms where they just hear pictures back and forth and shit like that? I guess so. I think this is message boards. Like you can go to, yeah, just check out the message boards on dark fetish net. Yeah. And then Cocoa Spiritor 1 says, yeah.

Cocoa Spiritor 1 says, you do know if we don't waste any of her, if we don't waste any of her, this is nearly 75 pounds of food there, which I mean, that's a good amount of food from one person. That's a hell of a lot of food. It's a nice haul. They're not talking about the bones and shit like that. You can't eat the bones. No, I know.

You can boil them for soup and stuff like that. They're talking straight meat. I think they're going, you know, post-cook. They're thinking 75 pounds of pure succulent human meat coming off of this dude's wife. But again, yes, this all starts as storytelling. When does it move into the actual, you know, the movement, the actual wanting to do it? Well, with Valet, when he did it, he did end up going and meeting that college girl that he was thinking about killing.

So that was a very like personal thing. And then he talks about it, you know, they were eating dinner and her out for lunch or something. And he talks about it in a chat room with his co-conspirators about how he was staring at her lips, about how she looked so unbelievably tasty. And she voluntarily met with him. She did because they didn't know that. No, no, no.

She has no idea that he wants to eat her. You know, that's just not something you bring up on a fourth or fifth date. That's not just on his OK Cupid profile. It's funny you mentioned OK Cupid. That's actually where he met his wife. Wow. They met a year ago on OK Cupid. He immediately knocked her up.

And so you get the feeling that he was relatively upset to be in this marriage to begin with. And he wanted to take it out on her by eating every inch of her body. Wow. This is another profile on darkfetish.net. Natalia Gusevas. She is volunteering to be who I am, mature Russian sour for breeding and slaughtering for meat. OK.

My main fetish, me at industrial slaughterhouse and at meat market. And that gets into what Marcus researched today, a little thing called VOR. V-O-R-E. I have never heard about this before. Marcus, what is VOR? Well, VOR is short for Voraphilia. OK. It's a paraphernalia where arousal occurs from the idea of someone or something eating

or being eaten by someone or something. It is thus distinguishable from cannibalism, the actual act of human eating human flesh, as there are no bounds on the species of either party in Voraphilia. And in fact, what Voraphilia usually is, the most common one that I found was snake eating woman. OK. Oh. Yeah.

And I found this thing on, I found this site called VOR tube, which is mostly, yeah, oh, it's bad. It's real bad. And they have videos, most of these things are pictures, the VOR. It's a lot of pictures of women being eaten. It's a lot of like rule 34 shit. Like I found one, I found a particularly disturbing Sonic the Hedgehog one. Was it because it messed with your childhood?

No. Fuck my childhood. I hate it when people say that bullshit. It's like, oh, ruin my childhood. It's like, what? Grow up, you fucking idiot. Oh, right. All right.

So this is an audio clip that someone made and uploaded to this site. All right. Check, check this out. This one is called I Have Thought About. I've thought about it a lot, I want you and your friends to cook me and eat me first. Take off all my clothes. You should stretch me out and fuck me, then fuck me again. At some point, I will tell you to do me, consider that point of no return.

No matter what I say after that, don't let me go. I want you and your friends to do your worst. By the morning, there should be nothing left of me but bones. What did you think about that? I had no idea that Mavis Beacon was such a pervert. That's amazing. And by the way, I haven't thought about Mavis Beacon in forever. I haven't either.

You put some ambient music under that and a beat, you got a Radiohead song. Here we go. So look at this. I just found a forum of Vore and what they call Gynophasia, which is exactly what you're talking about, which is incest, mix with cannibalism, mix with rape, mix with bondage. So a whole cornucopia. It's a real stew of everything wrong. And apparently, there was a fan fiction website of this type of stuff, and I just found a

story here that I would like to read. I've got one as well called How I Ate My Grandmother. What's your story all about, Timmy? Thanks for bringing it to class today. I always loved my grandma. She used to be simply great, and she loved to play with me and my siblings and my cousins. She used to be a great cook, and she always had an answer to our questions. Then disaster struck.

She was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease, a cruel disease, really. It doesn't kill fast, but slowly destroys a human brain. First grandma forgot things, then she started to forget us. Over time, all her family members became strangers, and they got worse over time. However, physically, she was fit for a lady in her 80s. She was doomed to die slowly, losing her mind, being trapped by this horrible disease. For a couple of years, things got worse. Granny was slowly dying in the hospital, losing her mind, losing herself.

I did always think of Granny. I had to end this. I was working on a secret project, a machine to turn back time. But I gave back her youth to grandma. I worked like if I was possessed by a demon, and I found a solution, a machine to turn back time to make her young again. The result never was stable. Rats, I rejuvenated, got younger, but only for 24 hours.

Then they aged quickly and died a horrible death. I wasn't able to solve the problem while grandma's health declined. Then I thought about cannibalism. When we were kids, grandma used to play cannibal games on this. What? She was a witch like in Hansel and Gretel. It's bizarre leap, you know? Only good.

Oh yeah. I mean, this is fiction. Yeah. All right. So I met Granny in the hospital. She didn't recognize me. She was 84 right now. Her body was healthy, but her mind wasn't.

It was horrible to see a person you love in that state of mind. I had to wait for days, many days. Finally she was back. For a moment, grandma's mind was clear. Help me please, Jonathan. She said, yes, grandma, I will help you. I have found a way to end this, I said, and told her about my plan. At first she didn't believe me, but then she agreed.

Just minutes later, her mind was blocked again. She looked at it later on. She met me in a nearby forest, and we drove to the laboratory. She looked at my machine in disbelief. There was a humming sound and some blinking lights. She entered the machine and went to the recruiter to activate it. There was a humming sound. After 50 minutes, the process was finished.

I opened the door and inside a young woman in her 20s with long red hair, smooth white skin, nice, medium sized breasts, and wonderful green eyes. Grandma's a young- It's still your grandmother. Jonathan, you did it. I'm young again. She said, you're looking absolutely stunning, grandma, I replied. Well, we have some time left until you need to be prepared and cooked.

She stopped me. Jonathan, let's have sex for one last time. What? One last time. Please don't. But she was my grandma, but yet also a stunningly beautiful young woman. And please don't call me grandma. My name is Emily.

She quickly addressed herself, removed those old lady clothes, and I didn't address myself. Then we had sex, and I must say it was the best sex I ever had. We both explored our young bodies. We will touch each other's bodies for more than two hours. Don't say words like that anymore. I'm just happy to know what Steven Urkel's up to. Oh, here we go. One last failure.

All right. Okay. This is fucking horrible. Yeah, go there. So we invited, I guess, after she was clean, we went to the kitchen. In a few hours, the guests would arrive. So I checked the oven one last time. By that time, the doorbell rang.

It was my sister Judy and her boyfriend. Both of them agreed to help me prepare and grandma Emily and followed me to the kitchen. We oiled Emily's beautiful body and made some stuffing. We stuffed in her ass and her pussy. Grandma liked it, especially when her young pussy was stuffed. Finally, I shoved a potato up her pussy in a carrot. Grandma Emily had a laugh when I took a mirror to show her oiled and stuffed body. I'm looking like a turkey, Jonathan.

We put her on a plate, put some more vegetables on this plate and shoved her in the oven. We didn't want to torture grandma. So we slowly raised the meat, the heat, step by step. She would feel no pain and fall asleep at some point in the cooking process. I don't think that's right. No, no. It really doesn't work so quickly. I mean, they just go, they just say they love her, they ate her.

Grandma, you were delicious. In love, Jonathan. The end. Obviously, Jonathan here is writing a piece of fiction. Right. And his grandmother doesn't actually think that she's going to be cooked. But can we go back to ballet just real quick? Real quick.

Please. Please do. Yeah. And then I want to read one called Mommy's New Diet. Okay. Well, we can just read Mommy's New Diet. I was just going to say that. I want to hear more about ballet.

Yeah, yeah. Let's go more back to ballet. between the that story and in the valet story is his wife truly believed that she was going to be eaten and murdered yeah well she was on the witness can when she was on the witness stand you know they asked her like so what was he going to do to you and he and she was like i was going to be tied to a bed with my feet and my throat was going to be slit and blood was going to gush out of me and uh in this you understand that it's satire we're playing characters right right but uh but this is where sort of valet takes it to the other level in it in a chat

conversation they're talking about how she's going to kick and scream and how uh you know she's going to you know beg for mercy and just giving her lighting ratings right you know how she's going to be that's true yeah you know you can't predict what if she absolutely loved it and then you know his co-conspiracy was like don't listen to her don't give her mercy and then he responded with uh it's okay we'll just gag her and uh so it was much more malicious than that unbelievably mildly romantic story about jonathan and his grandmother well was she just mad that it wasn't romantic would she been fine with it if he was just like and i will lay flower petals down up on the plate right before we cut her tits off i mean clinical women would definitely prefer a

little more romance so yeah he might have been able to salvage the relationship had he had slightly more flower petals around and this is important for all boyfriends out there you know you can't just deliver something straight edge to your woman you know i mean you gotta gussy it up you gotta really start thinking about what they want how they want to be murdered yes that's right henry all right marcus please mommy's new diet this is written by dancing queen six two eight one okay and i'm gonna skip a lot of the exposition in the story i'm sorry yeah i should have read it fully skipped mine as well but i just you know it's fun to get the full feeling of course of course i just when you say dancing queen i just imagined someone who looks exactly like dancing germane

yeah dancing germane a very successful stand-up comedian i also imagine somebody who often tucks his penis between his legs and he looks in the mirror and then he prances more than dances well the how the story starts off a lot of the paragraphs it's explaining mommy's sleepwalking problem okay and mommy is having a dream about going to a luau in which a suckling pig is being cooked and mommy has a toddler a very young son that is asleep and a lot of times mommy sleeps sleepwalks and comes and sleeps next to him so it was no big deal that mommy came in sleepwalking one day and started to stroke his face so we're gonna start with mommy we're gonna start with mommy at the luau this is involving a toddler is that right yes okay how many horrible stories i know that

started a luau i can't even yeah at the point it's the what it's the horrible poi that we're forced to eat oh my god sounds better than a sandwich a salmon sandwich it's true all right at the luau all eyes were on meredith that she was pulling the perfectly roasted body of the suckling pig closer and closer to her she was too hungry to bother with etiquette or manners she was going to devour this juicy delicacy whole she started to stretch her mouth open wider than she ever had before mommy muttered branny nervously as his mother mother's mouth opened into a gaping chasm before his very eyes what are you the question was cut short as meredith shoved her son's head completely into her open mouth oh my her lips wrapped around his young neck and her

tongue slathered his face branny squirmed in wind confused and frightened the suckling pig tasted better than anything else that meredith had ever had in her life she wanted to savor it but the demanding growls of her stomach would not let her delay she knew she had to get this mass massive meal down and into her deprived belly as quickly as she could to satisfy her crippling hunger meredith so hungry meredith grabbed the cotton clad shoulders of her son and shoved them into her mouth while she sighed simultaneously took a loud gulping swallow the boy's head was jammed down her throat and his frightened cries were muffled by the tight passage in which he found himself branny started to struggle harder trying desperately to pull himself out of his mother's

mouth meredith couldn't believe how glorious this meal was but she knew she had to hurry other dinners at the luau had grabbed the legs of the pig and were trying to pull it back out of her mouth they wanted to deprive her of this food that she'd so desperately needed but she wasn't going to let them with a rather violent jerk meredith threw her head back as she took another loud gulp this swallow sucked down her son's chest and stomach and now his pajama covered legs were sticking up in the air out of her mouth and kicking violently he screamed and cried but all that could be heard from outside where a few muffled wines barely audible as his head was now about to enter his mother's stomach and so on and so forth okay all right it's sort of

a jona in the whale situation yeah that's about halfway through the story it keeps wow it goes on and on and i i skipped a lot in the beginning that's just kind of that's the meat of the story in the beginning yeah but that's what they're really into they're into this idea of like consuming the entire body this is like one of these version of this like this vor type cannibalism stuff that you could see how i mean i mean i have no idea why people enjoy it but you could also sense though yeah it's relatively common with with a lot of serial killers you know you have your jeffrey dommer obviously being the most famous but a lot of serial killers would take memorabilia and things like that to remember their victim and what's more memorable than when you

eat their arm you know when you eat their flesh i mean i think that's the whole point but this is a whole different thing though like this isn't actually eating people like this is like eating someone as a snake or a snake eating someone like one of those so you fantasize being the predator yes right yeah fantasy that this is like that's a fantastical thing yeah but then some of this stuff on this dark fetish dot net it's just like i just really wonder where does like where is the difference between a guy like valet and and and and you know someone who just likes to write about this well i think the difference uh there's another story with valet he was talking to a fellow named throat slitter and uh throat slitter sent him a uh a video of a uh of a goat

having his uh having his uh having its uh throat slit and uh and so it was really taking a serious turn when valet like he wanted his wife after she had the baby he really wanted his wife to go running and uh so he would map out her route for her and then he would always choose first of all he suggested that she go running at night which no loving husband does that's absolutely hey honey go run at night you know when you're the most possible uh yeah yeah yeah it's the best possibility for you to go to sleep yeah is you're about to go to sleep once you uh put on your shoes and go for a bit of a run that'd be great yeah it's pitch black out there very scary he also only wanted her to run on on roads without street lights so there and this is true so it was taking these sort of like real life

um you know um it was taking a real life angle to it that i think obviously if you're pretending to be a snake and you actually see that in real life that's just shenanigans that's just somebody crawling on their stomach chomping their mouth at you and it's really not that terrifying and let me give you let me read you but in let's do a comparison all right uh we read the uh profile on dark fetish net we're like dark fetish net like that fucked up at like i'm going to read you a profile um from the vorcite okay from the like the site about like eating snakes and all that i got accepted to oklahoma university pharmacy school that's amazing what that means for me my life is finally pointed in direction for once finally on the road to getting a big boy job

what that means for you i only have to make season all my classes meaning i don't have to study as much meaning more time for drawing oh that's nice it's much more fantasy let me read you another dark fetish net uh uh uh person profile all right let's hear about it miss morbidly obese z who i am a single diabetic mom and soon to be grandmother just found out morbidly obese at 435 and i know my life expectancy is low i've had a dark daydream since my preteens i don't place blame on anyone for my feelings at times i escaped to dfn to indulge my dark side as it helps me cope with my real life challenges my main fetish big game hunting of yours truly at 435 that qualify for those hunters who enjoy bagging a super obese female beast human or animal hybrid

that the scientists of the future put together to give hunters a new thrill good for both trophies and meat the hunting preserves of the usa in uk uk stock their private lands with hugh sows and hugh cows i enjoy riding hugh sows and hugh cow wow i'm always the victim and never the predator love playing a very large lequilla lead a character naive nerdy you gets taken advantage of and i'm going to email you the pics that she has on her website for you to see them over to me brother oh you're very excited and this is yeah and then the other one was a gemma uh gemma is a is a girl who says that her main fetish is that she wants to grow up to be a toilet piggy all right and this is but this is just an example of this universe right this universe is not like

there's many different other types of fetishes right like this is just the darkest where it goes yeah another one that i found was called unberthing okay like which it's exactly how it sounds it is sent to you as by the way marcus what's up is it shoving all right cool is it shoving the child inside of the vagina yes okay yeah yeah and and a lot of it is uh a lot of it is that like comic books but are not like comics like comic strips uh i'm looking at one right now that is just fucking nuts yeah it's and it's also part of that goes into like they lie they love like the big belly like the huge belly on even if they're not pregnant part of this shit is just them looking for some sort of like big bellied woman that's like part of their fetish

and i think all this stuff that makes a lot of sense i mean all of the things that you guys are saying it's so it's complete fantasy it's completely not plausible you know and that's what's so scary about the valet character every everything that he wants to do you could actually technically do oh dear god how did they know that he was going to do it besides the fact that she was just scared of him there's other situations going on with this uh co-conspirator two and uh the co-conspirator two wanted him to kidnap uh knock a girl out for him and then deliver the girl to him and valet was going to receive five thousand dollars and uh co-conspirator valet says five thousand dollars and she's all yours co-conspirator two says well can we do four and then valet is like i'm putting

my neck out on the line here you know you can't do we can't do four it's got to be five so he's making money transactions yeah you can't negotiate yeah no i mean it seems like a relatively low number anyway yeah a human woman i think so yeah you can't i mean you have to he's a cop a woman should cost more than a Pontiac that's the only rule that i have really going on the line here jerry i was really sticking my neck out here it's crazy um so i think that's one of the situations that really separates this valet character marquis you have some other fantasy uh i'm no just i got what i got well i got why henry sent me and that is fucking disgusting all right let me see a picture of this woman i mean well it's not a picture of the woman per se

it's just like pictures of her fantasy like this is photoshop pictures of her being gutted and shit yeah oh no it's sitting way too close to home for me yeah that's sad she's just a redheaded gal with a with a nice size gun i suppose we could call it and a large droopy red bosoms i mean and i found this other site called marshman media which actually goes its videos and it definitely goes more towards the cannibal cop sides of things uh there's one video called funeral home boogie okay which is 35 minutes and it is obviously and it's a woman in what is obviously a funeral home on a funeral home slab and it's just a guy fucking with her for a while and then fucking what is supposed to be a dead body and these videos are extremely one's called necro love

story two uh and hogtie killer 10 or hogtie hogtie killer 10 part one homeless shelter throat slice more hogtie killer 10 part one that doesn't make any sense well there's also do we think that hogtie killer seven part two does that is that better no they got the numbers all wrong just my question do you think this keeps people from doing these things or do you think it encourages them to do this i think in valet's case this is all leading up to him actually doing it you know this is funny is that i was thinking about this exact same thing last night i was watching that have you seen that edgine movie on uh netflix yes i have it's arranged yeah it's pretty good the one that was made in like 2000 it's pretty good i liked it a lot yeah uh

but i was thinking about it like you know when he the woman comes over and asks him about like she sees the book that he's reading on headhunters and he's like just talking about it like it's just nonchalant i think if edgine would have had somebody to talk to about all this shit things may not have gone as far as they would have i think that if you could have just found people to that that you know i mean i think he was also pretty retarded he was well he was i think it was more like schizophrenic than retarded he was and just completely fucked up by his mother i don't know though i i think in a lot of cases i i agree with you and i think it's important to get like you know you can get it out online you can role play and you can have fantasy i don't think uh

like valet and edgine their brains weren't creative enough to have fantasy man what they said i also this is a police officer it's a very matter of fact mind that goes into the police force there's not exactly a lot of like artistic and they're cowboys as well he's in my pd this is a guy who's looking for action in the first place right and he knows how to do all this stuff and of course regardless of if he gets if he gets uh you know convicted of the conspiracy for murder and rape and eating humans uh he'll go to prison for uh stealing all the information from the nypd date of course which is really a huge violation that's the big crime because in the end it's all circumstantial evidence of him you know we're just going to be talking about like how serious was he

is he you know then they'll go into like sex addiction and all this stuff but then um everyone should also take a look at the jeffrey dommer files movie it is fucking incredible have you seen it yes oh is it is it just in theaters or can you get it online it is on apple tv you can get it on itunes it's fucking fucking incredible it's one of the best stocks i've ever seen and it's kind of the there was a great part where it's like he basically when they found him there was there were shots inside of his apartment that i had never seen before and one of the things that they i guess they found when they had him is that he had a big pot going with four hands and a bunch of dicks in it whoa really it's making a soup yeah yeah hand job soup yeah let me again the most

amazing thing about dommer all took place in an apartment building yeah the balls on that guy they have an interview with one of his neighbors who was um a black lady who was like talking about how like we were he lived was in like a blacks only neighborhood in milwaukee right next to the choco factory and then he went up to him and basically at some point she went up to him and she was just like why do you live here you know just like why are you here and you know she's like hi you know it's right next to my work you know uh because that's how we talked and then he was afterwards and then they afterward she's just sitting there she's like she's like and i can't believe that i was this i was his friend and i tried to friend him and i tried to do a stuff and

you know he gave me a sandwich from his house he gave me a sandwich and what if what if he had human meat it did yeah it definitely did yeah did she taste did she say how it tasted so it's great it's delicious that's so great let me ask you guys a question here this is another thing walk you ham i mean that's the thing if and if you feel like he like tie boys for example do you put a tie sauce on that meat if you follow a white person do you put the mayonnaise on no yeah you would you want to do is you want to fry it twice so it's good and crispy um crispy dude let me ask you guys a question here this was something i was thinking about last night after i watched that movie do we know of any serial killers out there that are known to have

murdered people that they know besides edging because if i think back to a lot of serial killers throughout the years it seems like it's a lot of strangers a lot of chance encounters well you have what his name there's a guy named uh hyren's the guy from england he killed his mother and he had his mother's head in the back of his car i think there's quite a bit of mother murder and that was another thing we were talking about before the show with his valet character i think he makes him worse than btk and worse than a lot of other serial killers because he targeted his own wife and i think that's very rude you gotta love your you gotta love your woman you know but you don't shit where you eat that's right yeah i do but i do think that i think

mothers are a big thing yeah mothers but besides that a lot of serial killers don't kill people they know yeah well yeah they don't in fact a lot of them are known as to the people they know or you know like btk was known as a loving father you know and a lot of these people like the to the member of his church or an nypd officer i mean that's why valet fits the perfect description of a serial killer and that's why i think he was really going to pull it off there's other emails where he talks about it's actually i seems like it's more personal serial killers like looking for people that that have no one yeah exactly i think it's too it's too personal to be a serial killer uh i don't know if that's true i don't think serial killers consider anybody having anyone

at all anyway they don't think that plays into the psyche whatsoever they don't look it's more people prostitutes because uh they think that they don't have any loved ones they look for prostitutes because they're out at three o'clock in the morning and they get into their car but it's mixture it's it's it's half and half a vote that's why they look for them in the first place and also sometimes they you know they believe that god is telling them well that is an interesting thing i think that's the only thing that god can do well going back to the valet story as far as the kidnapping of the squirrel for five thousand the guy tried to screw him down for four thousand he went five thousand uh he he valet does mention she will definitely make the news so uh i i think

that that is true it is easy to kill somebody who has nobody because then no one's going to be you know calling channel seven reporting somebody missing yeah but yeah i mean with this guy he was talking about how he can hardly restrain himself um and he's like you know i'm just going to knock her out all this stuff about how he was going to he went into great detail about how he was going to kidnap her and uh and gag her and wheel her out into a suitcase and uh and all these things so um do you think that this valet case though if he does get found guilty of conspiracy for murder or all of these websites even the playful ones that you guys were discussing shut down no never they'll never shut down you don't think that's a possibility no you can't shut you can't

website yeah well first of all it's russian so they can't touch it yeah yeah no you'll never shut down or you'll just go under it'll go into the tour web yeah there's already stuff like that in tour and there's gore.net gore.net when the whole thing went down with the uh fucking what's his putts with the uh gays uh foreign star that killed his boyfriend and filmed the whole thing right right right right yeah like that didn't shut that down yeah that's true yeah yeah no this is it's a part of benjamin franklin george washington fought the british so that we could have fantasy websites about fat chicks wanted to get eviscerated by by by men slaves absolutely let's put some nice good conservative music underneath that that's a brilliant point i mean it's going to be toby

keith all the way brother it would be anti-american to get rid of these websites if a person can't fantasize that they're a snake eating a child then i don't know what god damn this country is i don't know what this country is about anymore it ain't right you gotta you gotta you gotta barack obama and the in the white house isn't it bad enough all right everybody well thank you so much for listening mcgoose relations and uh all the listeners out there uh write to us at cave comedy radio at gmail.com weigh in on uh on this controversy as to whether this guy was you know actually going to do this or not weigh it write it and tell us what you think yeah and we'll do one little quick follow-up as soon as you get sentenced uh either way um all right guys absolutely

will we will talk to you soon mcgoose relations mcgoose relations howl geene howl me howl yourself good night good don't move the los angeles don't move that way three thoughts once you want all of your dreams crushed immediately yes very much