Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 74: Sex Dungeons
Episode Date: February 17, 2015In light of the recent events in Cleveland, the boys explore a few of the sex dungeons of our past, including Josef Fritzl and a mysterious group of Australian men known only as The Family. ...
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There's no place to escape to.
This is the last talk.
On the left.
That's when the cannibalism started.
What was that?
Um, okay, that's Marcus and then I am Ben and then the guy over here to my left, he's
been a real doozy if I've got to deal with this morning.
What are you talking about?
My name is Good Times Jimmy Dean Sausage, Henry's a Brass.
What?
Jimmy Dean Sausage.
In order to get through your day, it's very important to start off every single day with
a big pipe and hot saturated fat loaded Jimmy Dean Sausage.
The best part about it when we're doing with our new sausages, I don't know if you've
been aware of what we're doing over at Jimmy Dean.
I'm not.
What we've been doing is we've been supplying our new sausages with injections of hot liquid
fat.
Really?
So that you don't have to chew it.
And it gives it that buttery taste.
What it does is it allows you to, for maximum, like, you know, we're all busy in the morning.
Sure.
We're all trying, you make it a cup of coffee, you're trying to get ready.
I gotta go to school, dad.
I gotta go to school.
He's like, God damn it, Mr. Johnson is gonna have my fucking ass this morning.
Mr. Johnson's a terrible boss.
You know, he just got time to make breakfast.
That's right.
So he takes one of Jimmy Dean's new, what we like to call, liquid sausages.
Liquid sausage.
And when it comes, it's in a little pump and you just go, you like pump it a couple times
in your mouth and it's the fat equivalent of a big Jimmy Dean Sausage.
And it just slides into your pancreas.
What if?
Wow.
That sounds amazing, man.
It's pretty good.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I am just fiddling with these headphones.
Yeah, indeed.
I can't hear anything.
All right.
Well, speaking of Jimmy Dean Sausage and overall families and how Jimmy Dean Sausage has helped
families, today we're gonna talk about families that don't help people.
We're gonna talk about families that murder individuals.
Rape each other as well.
They hate a lot of anal bleeding, things like that.
I understand that this is a very touchy political climate for the rape topic.
Sure.
But I'm just gonna straight up say the very top of this, we're gonna be up to our eyeballs
in rape today.
But no one will be upset, no bloggers will be upset because most of the victims of the
rape that we'll be discussing, men, mostly young men and boys.
They'll be fine with it.
They'll be fine with it.
They love it.
Except for all of the ones I'm gonna be talking about, all women.
Okay.
Well, that's different.
Even it out.
It's affirmative action.
This all starts from an amazing current events news that happened.
We want to cover it last week when it first broke out, we just started recording.
We just started recording.
What happened?
Oh, I don't know.
You've changed.
Jesus Christ.
I'm half leprechaun this morning.
I just need a clean slate on the brain.
Yeah.
I mean, just talking about, like, I need electroshock therapy.
Oh, yeah.
Like MKUltra on myself.
That would be nice.
So I don't remember anything.
Well, I think you could probably find some acid and some drugs and you could find a way
to tie yourself up for a weekend and just lose your mind.
Same time though, every time I tie myself up, I just let myself go.
Right.
Yeah.
I just not discipline.
That's why you gotta get me to tie you up.
That'll be better.
You know.
Of course, Henry's referring to the Cleveland situation, what happened there with that,
the Castro family.
We're mostly the Castro man because for some reason-
Because the steamer came in at Cleveland and it was indeed a shit storm over there
in Cleveland.
So we had these sort of stories on the mind.
We can start with the Castro story if you want.
I think we have to.
Or we can just sort of intersperse it throughout.
What I was hoping was that as time passed for this last week, that we'd get all the
juicy shit.
I wanted to hear from the victims.
I wanted to hear Castro just being like, I thought that he was going to be like that.
That's exactly what it sounds like.
You know, just like, they're coming, they're coming, they put the dog leash on themselves
and I was like, what, what girl, why, why are you, why are you blame Mexican?
I don't even know if he is Mexican.
What is his race?
I don't know.
I'm not Cuban.
Cubans go Cuban.
Is he?
I'm not saying that because you know one famous Castro.
Well, yeah, I mean, it helps.
If you're a Kennedy or Irish or if you're a Castro, you're Cuban.
What was Sammy Sosa?
Cuban.
Yeah.
I thought he was Dominican.
I don't know.
Is his middle name Castro?
Mm-hmm.
That's why I thought he was Cuban.
Indeed.
But really, not too many gruesome details have emerged.
No, no, no, no.
Fun shit.
No.
Well, some would argue horrific.
Yeah, I'm saying.
Some would argue things you don't want to hear around the dinner table.
Juicy tidbits.
Some fun, juicy tidbits.
I mean, there are some tidbits coming out about Castro's life.
One of his friends, Tito, said, I just don't, I cannot, I cannot trust what Tito says.
No, no, no.
Tito is a guy that he used to play in a band with because I don't know if you guys know
this, but Castro was one fantastic bass player.
Yes.
He played Salsa.
He made beautiful Mexican, Cuban, Spanish.
He made beautiful Spanish music.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I got to get home.
I got three girls up in my, I, no, no, no, no, never.
I just got to, I got some boys.
I got to practice my bass.
Yeah.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
He slowly backs up.
Don't listen.
Don't listen to what I got.
There's no bass sound that goes like this.
I just realized that it's like, you know, if you're kidnapped by a member of a band,
it's like, at least be kidnapped by the lead singer or by the main guitar player who can
you put you to sleep with some nice licks or a nice song.
Not the lazy bassist.
The bassist.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
It's like, how can you fall asleep to that?
I mean, God forbid, at least he wasn't a percussionist or something.
That would have been far more torturous.
But if you have to be kidnapped by a band member, at least, please God, lead guitar.
This man was a classic bassist.
Did not do well.
Classically trained.
No, no, no.
Classic as in he doesn't do well with the ladies and never gets laid.
But I thought that was the opposite of the other women always slept with the bassist.
Not usually.
No, not usually.
No, no, no.
Bassist.
That's why I play the flute.
Ah, yes.
Bassists get kicked to the side because us drummers, they like that primal animal instinct.
But what about a job?
They hate a man with a job.
Jobs.
You ever know a drummer with a job?
I haven't had a job in four years.
I can't get a job.
I'm too busy making all this noise.
But here's what Tito said, when we used to go performing, he was alone all the time.
He wanted to always see if he could go out and dance with the women.
Strangers.
So he would go pick somebody and say, want to dance?
Many, many times, they would say no.
Absolutely not.
You're disgusting.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
Is this the Ben Kissel story?
Oh, I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I want to dance.
I want to dance.
Mostly, every time he would come back very mad because they didn't want to dance with
him.
OK.
Dance with me?
Don't, don't.
No, I take time.
I tie them with doggies.
Mr. Castro.
What was that?
What was that, Arielle?
You just smell.
You just smell a little bad today.
You, you got problem?
You bring up mailman.
You don't bring me my delivery on time.
And I go take in my tie-in with doggies to the tree and I take it when I show him how
I tie him to do doggies.
Tuesdays.
Tuesdays.
I'm right there with you.
I never understand what he's saying.
Do you guys ever think that he might have three girls in his attic?
I'm not gonna I don't know but he is always with the alone never with the dancing of women
He's always thank you. I do like I do like the term. He's always with the alone
As if the actual person that he's with does not exist. It is the alone
He was also a school bus driver for a time good. What's the screening test for there is none
They just let anybody I could just wander into what I think I've got like
Okay, come on a man underwear on they can't see
Come on in we're hiring new about bus drivers. Yeah, so you just look them up and down and then stop at the feet if they have feet
They're hired. Okay, so just let's do the streamline it here
What's most important with driving a bus right? You got to have a butt to put in a chair, right?
And you need does he have a butt? Yes, I do see a butt. Does he have some hands?
He's got one hand. Well, that'll work just fine because he's a cool bus driver
The other hand is gripping onto a giant metal hook
Mmm, that'll scare the kids. He's hired the dog leash. I rub the dog leash around the steering wheel in and I'll drive
I tell you you don't tell me when they like to school. I take them. I tied them to three with dog leash
Did you understand a word that he said I get a feeling he's like three girls up in his attic
I just hire him. I don't know but he was fired from being a bus driver after three incidents one
He left a child on a school bus one of the things you can't do that's like
That's like the top like major requirements of being a bus driver drop off the kids deliver the children
Yeah, to he made an illegal U-turn during rush hour traffic with a busload of students with a bus fine
They're screaming and shit. You just make decisions. It's a tough. That's a tough turn to make with horrible
And then finally the last straw was he used the bus to do grocery shopping. How many groceries was he getting?
They all come in a complaint when I took the school bus to go. I get my lettuce and I got my eggs for the people
I've got tied to my dog leash in the back of my tree. Those bosses come to me
I will tie them with dog leash to three. They tell me one more time. I can take school bus to go grocery shopping
I mean if you're working at the supermarket
Don't you notice at some point this Castro character is rolling up to the supermarket with the bus filling it up with like
Enough food for four, but you know, he lives alone because no human being could love him
He's taken the school bus to the grocery store. I just think that's a red flag over the past decade
Didn't they just pick up on that be like he's not and he's not morbidly morbidly obese
There are so you know this food many fucking retarded facts tied to this case. There's
Everybody just let it happen. Are we talking about everybody just let it happen. No one stopped him
He was a moron. He was a very when they show the pictures the house and stuff
It's just like it couldn't be more obvious. He boarded up on the windows
He wouldn't let you pass the kitchen all his stupid brothers his stupid brothers come in there
It's like don't go to Arias else
You're not allowed to go into the kitchen and we would just sit and drink in the living room and he'd play music
Jewish Mexican
Is that that they would just sit in the living room while he was just like no no no
Don't listen to those sounds and just play like
And think God's Spanish music has a lot of like
Out of all the professions out of all the professions like being a bus driver is the only profession where you really can't take the company car
You know like that's that's just that's really only for work. Yeah, indeed and most of time he wouldn't
Here is what his son says. He never let anybody just love the idea of nobody this also
What was that? Well, it's a new rendition man. You know Santana is really going crazy these days
His son said he never let anybody in his house
Nobody his mother his own his father my father his own mother if she went there
She would call from outside the house and say she was out front my other
Pedro would ride his bike there
But nobody ever went into that house and then retarded ABC news went over this week about all the different times are like well in
Ten years the cable company would have would have would have come there over
15 times yeah, and the oil company would have come over 40 times and other but like all both of them are being like
We do stuff outside the house. We don't look inside the house. I'm just like I just feel like there's no noises
Coming from the house. There's nobody back there in the basement for ten years
I mean I'm like half half like every hour
hour for ten years
I was entrapped in a basement. This is how much noise I make on a podcast
This is how much I know noise I make in a voluntary situation
I feel like if you tied me up in a basement. I'm just gonna go
Forever forever
Well, he was I mean like the screaming what's that there's the screaming bird you'll never like raping me
That's what that is my goal my goal is that if you're gonna rape me
I'm gonna make it bad for you. I'm gonna be like your dick's too small you fucking prick
You might end up with one of those black delia smiles at the end of that
I mean he was an idiot, but he was a cruel motherfucker
I mean the best I think that the the best intimidation tactic that he used to keep them from doing that too much was the old
Baton switch he used to do where he would pretend that he would leave the house
And then he would come back super quick
And if there was anything out of place or if you heard them screaming or anything like that
Severely beat the fuck out of them and rape them and I mean that's where he was really bad
And he also kept all and you know and we were talking to me and kiss will talk in the other day about
How the women like would never like how they never bonded together to escape?
He kept them in three separate places. They were very rarely in the same place
They got together ever now and again though because when there you know when the cops came in to rescue them
All three of them were loose. So I feel like what happened in the end. We'll we just don't know yet
Yeah, we don't know how they finally
Run out of there. I just feel like it took I tell you what though. She booked it and she left those other two girls behind
She'd she just like look behind too dead. She literally ran out of the house. I was just like I've been in there
I've been in there and she didn't say anything about two other girls
They just sat in the house and yeah, it's really you know, it's it's a rough
It is a rough part of town because that woman, you know, she breaks out of Castro's home
She runs into the closest man's arms that she finds we come to learn
He is also a wife beater. You can't throw a rock in Cleveland, huh?
You can't throw a rock. It's not a nice town. No terror. We were talking about on top at yeah
We got to end it like the movie the crazies. We just need to send a drone over there
Give it a Cleveland. No more Cleveland. No need for it. The Cavaliers are terrible when LeBron left. They lost everything
It's all done Cleveland has nothing. I wonder why LeBron left
Oh, maybe it's because your town is full of sociopaths and serial killers
It wasn't that wife beater such a wonderful internet personality that makes me happy
I said he was funny and fun and everyone loves his interview
He got really me me really fast
And there's another person that they came out and said that she that she was the one who saved them
And he was just there like talking about McDonald's
Loved his McDonald's, you know
And this is the one nice thing that I enjoyed about seeing him interviewed his smile and his smile was the closest thing
I've seen to an actual black person smile when discussing McDonald's similar to the commercials the McDonald's actually has
I was like, maybe they're not lying in their marketing. Maybe they're not racist. That black dude was thrilled
He pretended like you couldn't get it every day
It's an important lesson to eyewitnesses from now on is that throw a plug in there. Yeah, you can get in there throw a plug
You know, that's why I always go like, you know memory foam mattresses
Those girls all raped in the building and they had it and they were shoved inside alligators and dead alligators
They would put aside and those memory foam mattresses that I was sleeping on are just so expensive. I need one
Well, I'll tell you when I was rescuing that woman my feet tend to really hurt but now with these Dr.
Scholl's inserts that's for damn sure and the pet egg I've been using it's too bad. She had nine miscarriages
A lot of miscarriages and this is what I'm just not exactly sure because we don't have all of the details yet
Of exactly how he separated them exactly how he controlled them because he was not smart
He was not a smart what's gonna happen the details are gonna be very bad
And I know there was details about his history and about how he is he had a history of abuse
And there was a woman that he was with for a long period of time that he sort of like started like tracking where she went and locking
You're in the house and doing all it's he's just a very but it's he also sent his ex-wife's new husband to jail on
Child abuse or on yeah, he's like his whatever. So what's he called? He's like his enemy. It's like his archdemesis
It's a total psycho his name's colon is his last name
Colon colon. Okay. Yeah, they never say my name, right?
In 2004 Cologne was convicted of two counts of gross sexual imposition and classified as a sex offender for molesting two of Castro's daughters
Cologne's a Castro orchestrated the case even served as a witness at Cologne's trial to divert attention away from his own crime
I'm also gonna say that this woman has not very good taste in the dudes. Oh pretty bad
Maybe not. I don't know if he was also pretty much an innocent in this situation
I I just think that Castro is a I think there's two types of psychopaths as we could see like like Jeffrey Dahmer
Like well, there's a lot of it. There's a lot of that right where there are people that are sort of retarded that that that
stupidity turns into
Sociopath because he literally could not understand someone else if they wanted to they don't have any empathy because they can't understand
Perspective and then there are people who do understand perspective like Ted Bundy or like John Wayne Gacy is a very good example
So it was a very smart person who who understood who's a smart person who believes that they are above
Society and believe that they can like BTK like fucking Dennis Rader
Yeah, right they believe that they can impose their control on society because they're better than society
I just think there's a real Castro guys a fucking just a disgusting animal
Yes, and it is but I can't believe that he got these girls to stay there for ten years
And it was also like they got picked up on the same road over like the same like week
They were was in one row that he picked them up after like they were just got in the car
It's like it's the year well
They just got in the car because they know him because he knew his sister and
But if you would did this in Williamsburg
I could understand it because I'd be like hey you guys are up in an attic sure you're chained up tiny rooms
Have you seen the rent? Have you seen the rent prices in Williamsburg? Where are you gonna go?
Where are you gonna go?
This show is slowly turning into you just sitting on a stoop with
Well as we'll see from some of the other
Well, we'll keep you up to cover. Yeah, and we'll keep you up to the Castro situation when some good details
Emerge yeah, I just want to hear that he dressed it up as a skeleton
He dressed up as a skeleton and I went into each room going like hi mr.
Oh, so that's a kind of that's what you want in here. Yeah
You know
You also see your skeleton. You don't like my skeleton costume. I won't take you with a doggy
And I will tie you to the I will tie you to the tree
Fat guy still but as we'll see some from some of these cases people are fucking idiots
Oh, yeah, yeah, people are morons. Do we want to start with the monster of Amstetten?
Yeah, Joseph Fritzel now did we did we cover him on a previous podcast or only lightly
But Fritzel, you know, he's nobody to brush under the rug. This guy is the real deal
He's the Rupert Murdoch of trapping your family and raping them for kids
He is amazing at it. He's a mogul if if tears were money
He would be a billionaire because he certainly caused more than a billion of those. I got all right
Well, this is a man a very quick overview on his crimes
He kept his daughter Elizabeth shut it god damn it
He kept his daughter Elizabeth shut in a basement underneath her at his house for 24 years
While raping her and fathering seven children with her
While his wife
Upstairs was none the wiser. I mean she was washing dishes 24-7 just staring at the wall like acting like nothing
You know, like she really didn't hear anything. She definitely didn't see anything
She just sat there just washing dishes and just making sure that the things the refrigerator
She's walking around just like watching the TV, you know in every single night and probably just like cutter self
On the leg underneath the thing. I don't understand the amount of denial in both of these cases right with the Castro brothers
The Castro parents with this chick
I mean, how don't you know there was a human beat like don't you just like sense other people around sense misery?
Like where does he go when he emerges underneath the house for seven hours covered in sweat and screaming?
You know, it's like and women can thank you mother. Yeah, he's just going to bang his daughter
He must smell like sex a little bit when he comes up or something
I mean there has to be some telltale sign that he's banging somebody
I'm getting in the end of this scenario. Let's start from the beginning. Let's start with the beginning of Joseph Fritzel himself
Yeah, let's start with his mother always always always starts. I don't know his mother regularly
Severely beat him as a child kicking him even when he collapsed to the floor and bleeding
But this is Austria. Yeah, that's this is Austria and only is it Austria, but this is Austria during Nazi times
Yeah, so I mean that's the same thing when you hear a lot of these people getting beat in the 1940s and 50s
It's like everybody was getting beat. Yeah, and so yeah, she never hugged him or kissed him or told him
She loved him. He's a monster. No. Yeah, and she brought him into this world only to prove to his father that she wasn't infertile
Yeah, I had a child to prove a point
Yeah, and but then after a lifetime of abuse at the hands of his mother he flipped the fucking game on her
Walder up in bricks in her attic and left her to die. Well, that's what happens
I have no problem with that actually so far Fritzel's fine with me
I understand why people do these things, you know what a couple except I feel like you're gonna sit in the living room
Trying to watch TV and you hear
Yeah, you're never gonna be good enough Joseph. You're never gonna be good enough for your mother Joseph
Oh, you didn't build his wall strong enough for me to not yell through
Joseph
He kept her up there for 20 years
Yeah, he would feed her and he would keep her alive
But yeah kept her boarded up or not boarded up bricked up in an attic for 20, you know
Man, so he had practice. He had oh so much practice. He this is a man
This guy makes a Castro look like a fucking amateur. Absolutely. He was preparing for his sex for his sexseller for
Years, this is a pro-leaguer. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. I mean, I makes the toy box killer look like
You know, I'm actually not a real Castro and it makes Ariel Castro look like Ariel the mermaid
Think about the little mermaid the little mermaid
1967 Fritzel was sure he does smell like fish and spent a year and a half in prison
Here's the thing though. Is it he went to a year and a half in prison for walling up his mother in the room?
No, for rape. Oh, I got caught for walling up his mother in the room
You know the other one was a crime of passion. So we got caught absolutely and so
Fritzel almost said Castro Fritzel out of the seven children that he fathered with his daughter
Mm-hmm three of them he adopted. Oh, well, that's he did the right thing. Mm-hmm, but in Austria
Most crimes are erased from records after 15 years. What so yeah?
I know it's some kind of like mainly the holocaust after mainly the
After World War two all of their laws got so softened up like in for murder the most you can do is 15 years
I don't understand Henry. Do you want to go on a trip with me to Austria? Let's go have a
Experience of the senses. Mm-hmm. I've got a one-way ticket for you. I'll be coming back
He's also a suspect in two other cases and rumored to indulge in a decent exposure
It was also alleged that he raped his wife's sister
But when he went to say to say that he was not a friendly nor like nice man
But I would like to sit down to dinner with him because he like picks up the turkey and starts fucking the turkey
Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, I love this turkey. Yeah, I wish it was my daughter. Oh, yeah, where is my daughter?
Hmm interesting interesting
I do like the idea of him just like flashing a group of people and just be like Fritzl Fritzl Fritzl did it
Come on Fritzl did it
In 1972 he gave up on this mail-order lingerie business that he was working on if I could I could count on
My fingers and toes how many times I've started it and gave it up on my mail order lingerie
So the lingerie was for men. Is that the deal? I don't know, okay
We have male lingerie business. There's just a man running a female lingerie. How is he selling it as you order?
Oh male order lingerie
So people would just like get their lingerie and they'd be like I think this is just a bunch of knives
The problem is that he kept with like hand delivering it and like showing up be like
Yeah, I want you rabbit right
Yeah, you got her that means there's a woman out there right now or there was a woman out there who was wearing his lingerie
During their most intimate times lingerie that Fritzl had probably touched and drooled on and slobbered
We probably tried on his daughter for a while. Yes. Yeah, that's got to be a creepy
That's that's that's when you throw away as soon as you find out about the tale of the haunted panties
So and then in 1972 he gave up his mail-order business to become what else a landlord
Of course. Yes
Of course. The thing man landlords are all sadists and serial killers. Castro you could argue was just a terrible landlord
You know and Fritzl is the same way. Yeah, they're very I mean, they're like micromanager landlords. Yeah, and
1977 that's when he started sexually abusing his daughter when she was 11 years old and he started building his
Prison cell like his fucking cellar in 1981. She didn't go in until 1984
It's just so crazy the amount of pre-meditation years and how he got her into the cellar totally fucking buffalo billed this chick
He got he built the entire thing. It was all ready to go and then he was like
Elizabeth I need some help put things a dawn and so he got her to put the door on
She's like daddy is that's good now and he goes ha ha ha you're in there now forever and
That's a great switcheroo. That's a good thing for dates for you as well
Oh, I can't wait to go on more dates. They've been going amazing. Oh my sweet little daughter
I wonder if you look down into my new super-secret safe room
Find a lovely box
For some reason when I thought of him just like making the room for three years
I thought of Noah building the Ark. Yeah, you know, it's a very similar sort of passion
You have to have the same time and what's Martha doing is Martha just doing dishes while he's in the other room going like
Do you know like sawn wood? Yeah, it's making his torture soundproofing and just being like yeah
This is a perfect place for me to rape somebody mainly our daughter up there just being like do you want corn for breakfast?
right home
Hmm frit them well Elizabeth, of course after enduring years of abuse from a father had run away a couple times already
Yeah, and at this point but at the same time, I just feel like even Elizabeth. Don't you feel something coming?
Yeah, he's got the big room coming the daddy's fucking craze look at his eyes eyeballs roll around his head like he's looking at your fucking
Sack of gold coins. Yeah, like knowing that you're gonna when you build the door and you know, and it's like there's no sense of dread
No, whatsoever. I guess I mean, I'm sure there was and then it was just like, okay
This is finally happening now. Well, you know, I'm here. So made as well make the best of it. Oh
And so when she disappeared suddenly he told everyone oh she went off and joined a cult
He made her write a letter and this is one of the genius parts of his plan throughout the years he would make her write letters
To his to her mother. He would travel to another town and then mail the letter from that town
So the mother like seems like a lot of work. It's just such a crazy hobby
He even I don't find the time he even went as far as to record her phone
Conversations like record her voice and then would play them for the mother. Yeah, and
That was the thing at one time. She called
And it was play even though they had just gotten a new unlisted number number and the mother
Rosemary was like, I don't know how she got the numbers. This is weird
Yes, because yeah, I think Rosemary had a fucking brain tumor
It's very well. It was like just not mentally slow. I don't know what she was doing
But her eye was not on the prize. That's for certain. No, yeah
Well, I mean she it down in her little cell. She had a TV and a VCR. Oh
Oh, that's the highest technology for the time life is on the VHS now. Suck your father's dick. Oh, right
That's a little much. I think
Well, she had her turn a bug life. It's an animated movie. You can't suck a dick turn an animated movie
She had her first child
Kirsten and oh what a pretty name. Uh-huh second child Stefan in 1990
Mm-hmm, and those two stayed in the basement for their entire lives up until they were discovered and when were they discovered
They were discovered in 2008 2008. God damn. Yeah. Yeah, they were so they were 17 and 18
Yeah, and step but how do they stand? I don't understand how you don't overpower the man
How don't you I think at that point they were pretty that's their hole
I understand the babies because they don't know anything. Yeah, but this woman at some point see that's the thing
I'm not victim blaming whatsoever, but it does it does bother boggle my mind
I was talking about Jackie with I mean Jackie's very strident in her beliefs
But I she was saying the same thing about how like if you give you captured Jackie if you tie Jackie
It's either Jackie's a browse. Yeah, you're gonna. You're gonna have to murder you would have to murder hurry up to murder me, too
Yeah, I'll roll around my big things. I roll. I twist like an alley. Yeah, I grab it. I twist grab twist
They give you the right food. They give you that new pizza hut that new pizza hut with the cheesy crust
Well, I'll say anywhere as long as I'm appreciated
Exactly
They'll give you one hour of performance time every single night. You'll be just fine
No, they had when these kids finally came cops came to rescue Henry Zabrowski. He was screaming. He wanted to stay the whole time
They had to do therapy with them as far to get actually get them out into light and sun because they were in a tiny space
Right an open room fucking freak them out. Oh and that and in fact Stefan has permanent
Spinal damage because the cellar was only five foot six inches high
Oh, come on Fritzl. It took you three years to build that put a ceiling on there
He was and he was five foot ten. That's pathetic
So he was constantly crouching and his spine is permanently curved. However bad construction expand it at one point
Well, not he didn't expand it Elizabeth expanded it. I mean he directed her into expanding another room. Oh, well, that's nice
Yeah, that's nice give your family down whatever the lady wants. That's what his that was his motto
Mm-hmm, and then in 1992 Lisa the third child was born and this is when Fritzl starts taking him out of the basement
Here's what happened is that the baby was crying a fucking crying a storm up in Fritzl
They were not only was his wife living there, but he had tenants in this house like he was allowed was doing Airbnb
There were dozens of people who came in and out of this house all throughout this entire ordeal
And so he was afraid that the neighbor are so fucking stupid and bad. Yeah, don't know how that we
I mean these guys. I mean the cellar was completely until I mean he was a true maniac
He was a true yeah, and so he he brought the baby up to try to get it
Like it had a piece of string tied around its foot or something like it was something with string
And so he brought it up, and then the wife walks in and he's like ah
Look Elizabeth sent us a baby. Ah
He just said that Elizabeth had dropped off the baby in a cardboard box and
Left a note just saying the child needs looking after god
I thought he's a lot of things what a fucking moron. He did it two more times
And he's like she's in the cult I don't know what she's doing there
But she keeps dropping the babies. I guess we'll have to I am just I after a while
It's like what are you even I feel like the wife needs to just die go to prison even longer than he did
For believing all of his bullshit. That's what does she do now?
What is is there any interviews with rosemary? She is in seclusion. She lives in lint. Yeah, of course seclusion in the West Wing
Yeah, and her yeah, and then she tried going into contacting Elizabeth. Elizabeth's like no
Oh, yeah, no highly doubt it. What's Elizabeth up to?
Elizabeth is a lot of her she started a new bikini line. I heard I heard that she's doing a whole like surfing thing
It's really great. She's yeah, she does it's Austrian surfing. They're trying to pump up their surfing
I didn't realize that there was a large surfing culture. Yeah, what they do is they go out to the sand pits
They have these big sand pits, and they just like they spray paint and blue and on sort of like crude wooden boards
Sure, and they call it surfing. Ah
Austrian surfing surfing
Nerfing go to the schniefing so after Monica and Felix are bored
Okay, and he keeps bringing him up to the wife and the him and the wife are raising these kids
The first child Kirsten becomes like just fucking gravely ill down in the cellar and Elizabeth is begging
It was like you have to take her to the hospital
We don't know what's wrong with her and he's if any concocts the plan that key concocts is
Is that?
Elizabeth showed up at their house and dropped off a 19 year old woman a lot of that showed up in the house and dropped them off
It's just yeah, I mean things keep going to your go-to. Yeah
Yeah, let's just half dead and say like take care of her so he takes her to the hospital
And he's like I don't know where Elizabeth is and the the authorities are saying like we need to know her medical history
We have to know what's going on here and they put a
Like they put a full-on APB APB out for like seeing what's going on and as his story just kind of keeps slipping
Oh, yeah, he's just he starts telling the story to one other person
That's not fucking daffy rosemary in there as they go in there like acting like eating plastic fruit all day
It's a man. Oh, I love his these apples
And so finally the cops said like may maybe we should go check out this guy's fucking
Murder basement
Look, I made a new dress for the refrigerator. She's like does so no these clothes for the fucking appliances
I'd say beautiful
Yeah, and so that's when they finally found the kids and are the I mean hell a couple of more adults at that time
Oh, yeah, and I was a majority charged with enslavement incest rape coercion false imprisonment
And murder by neglect because one and what and what murder was there was he got life imprisonment
Okay, but the one murder was that Felix was a twin and one of the twins died
So he just took it up. He just took it upstairs
It's a healthy woman to give all those birds give births all those babies by her father while trapped in a basement
And of course that there's some people there's some white people have a really hard time having babies mostly in Park slope Park
Slope Brooklyn, that's the other situation with the Castro
Scenario of course one of the girls had to give birth for the other girls
She had a girl did a little deliver the girl's baby and then Castro
It's kind of funny because you know he punched that chick a whole bunch whenever she had the shit five miscarriages
Yeah
And they're charging with five murders and a lot of pro-choice groups have to err on the side of Castro because they think it's a bad
Slope because they're giving they're making fetuses like people now, which is I love that
I mean the thing is what also makes me very confused about the Castro thing is that they
Are only charging him with like there because they're trying to figure out what to charge him with because right now
the only thing they can charge him with is rape and
They do have enslaved there is enslavement, right? Oh, yeah
Okay, and then the five murders so he's gonna be facing the death penalty because of that, but it's a sort of
Special case political. That's a special thing. That's not like abortion
That's not like choosing to have an abortion when you know
No, baby, it should be legal you can't just go around punching every chick in the stomach this pregnant
There's like has a fetus, you know, yeah, that's not a person. No, no, no, that's bad. That's bad. That would be rough
Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, so Fritzel is in prison now that story is pretty incredible
Yeah, Fritzel's in prison and he divorced his wife in prison. He divorced her because she would never come visit him. Oh
Unbelief she didn't divorce him. He divorced her. Yeah, that is
Remarkable men are from Mars. Yeah, men are from Mars and this woman is from the depths of hell
She is a moron and every two weeks. He pins a note to his daughter
Asking her for money to study to be a lawyer so he can defend himself and she's about
$4,000 to quote get me stots on my legal career is
Giving him money. He even moans about not being able to get the special shampoo. He claims he needs for his implanted hair
He hasn't got plugs. He's got this is the opposite and again
This is a guy who just thinks that he can own the universe that he's smarter than everybody
He made his own little world, you know, it's like if you would ever date Prince in 1993, you know
It's very similar to the Joseph same time though. I could use that time
Sitting around drinking all the bowls of cream on a big purple couch
listening to play soft guitar music
His beautiful eyes. So if you had to get kidnapped, you just want to get kidnapped by Prince
Yeah, yeah, fuck. Yeah. Yeah, Prince is out there fucking take me. We'll want to talk about this Adelaide Australia story
Oh, yeah, there's not too much with it, but it's just kind of a fun one and this was about a
Large group of very wealthy folks there in Australian Adelaide a lot of doctors and lawyers and things like that
They ran a small cult and they love to have sex with boys
So they kidnapped I think it's six of them Alan Barnes Neil and when I like it
It's 12 people right and they're all like various like high-profile
Australians like they are, you know surgeons and lawyers
Which we can like read it sounds like the Bohemian Grove. It does. Yeah, and everybody that they kidnapped died from the exact same car
It's kind of ridiculous, which is
Just pretty much anal bleeding they all died from injuries as resulted by anal bleeding
Yeah, yeah, the first one that likely caused by the insertion of a large blunt object into the anus. Yep
I bet it was a kangaroo
It could have been
But of course, this is why they think they think this is sort of a doctor situation similar to the Black Dahlia
Because this is Neil Muir his remains had been dissected and neatly cut into many pieces placed in garbage bags and thrown into the river
So they think it had a doctor's hand and there were also some of the victims were shaved. Mm-hmm a surgical manor that's kind of fun
And then of course the skin-bearing tattoos had been removed and most of the body parts were placed in another garbage bag
And then they were placed within his abdominal cavity. So they really kind of turduck in them
You know, they just took the gizzard bag right out of them and popped it right back into it
They don't even know who did it necessarily. Nobody was arrested one person was arrested for it and that you because he was wearing
You know, he was wearing a big like like skirt made out of sparklers. So just like hey, I just be like
I think that that makes sense because his name is Bevin Spencer von Einemann
Currently serving life
I have more names by an expensive own omen and I'm the world's fanciest murderer
Also shout out to Baldy and Johnny in Australia
On all our Australian listeners this one's for you. Yes indeed. They do it right. You did this
You know how this to happen. I was also reading about the Port Arthur mass shootings the other day that happened in Australia as well
What was that all about? What's the thing is Port Arthur which is with this heinous mass killing they used to have a lot of mass killings
What is that? I'm school shooting. I think so
This group killing spree were in which 35 people were killed in 23 were wounded
Yes, the historic Port Arthur prison colony a popular tourist site in southeastern Tasmania. Yes, it was a very it was very scary
It's a very scary thing and then there's a lot of conspiracy theories wrapped in that
That's a whole another thing we could we could literally do a whole podcast about Australian mass shootings
Yeah, that happened that were ended because of the their ban on assault rifles
I just feel like doctors are psychopaths. No matter what another doctor
I mean doctors just think I've been the last I told you the story of the last time
I met that one doctor who told me about his friend
He like went to the Philippines and bought that girl for a month and all this stuff and hanging and it's just like well
You know doctors have a they have a
Superiority complex. They just know what they're doing when I think they're better than a body this fellow mark Langley
he was murdered by this group of 12 individuals and
Among other mutilation it was found like a month among other mutilations was found that he appeared to have been cut with a surgical
Instrument that went from his navel to his pubic region and then a parse a small part of his bowel was missing
I mean, that's that's difficult to do. Why you take out the poopy tube? I don't know why they took out the poopy tube
What did they do with the poopy tube? It's like a thing. Where do you keep the poopy tube?
You just make a cock stock out of it. Oh, is that what they're doing? I have no idea
That's why they're doing wedding bands. They could make rings make jewelry with it, honey
That's such a nice necklace. It looks like a piece of a bowel. Hey, no, it is me Steven. Would you like some calamari?
I'm sorry. No, it's poopy tube. It's poopy tube
I got it from a boy and of course Mark Langley died from a massive loss of blood from gross injuries to his anus
I just feel like what are they doing to the butts?
They're sticking blunt objects. What are the things whatever they want to stick in their fists?
What are they doing? Are they just watching or they jerking off on them? Oh, I'm sure they were jerking off on them
I mean, I think they were jerking off around them
Or the videotaping it or just fucking each other. Yeah, just banging each other with them
What if you just I mean like the worst of all is just sitting eating red vines looking at them
Yeah, it's like I was sitting there just eating popcorn just being like I love this movie
This other dude this Neil Muir guy his head was tied to his torso with the rope passed through his mouth
And then just like an out of his neck so I don't even think his neck was attached
It also sounds like one of them must have been some sort of gift wrapper decorator for him
Oh, yeah, he really made these packages so nice. We need to get Barry in here
Just like pep this place up, you know
We're killing the bodies is some ribbon and what it needs is just a little bit of love
Yeah, Hank, I love the way you cut a bowel. You're a great surgeon, but we need to make this place right for the dead straight boys
So that's an example that boys get it pretty rough as well and I wouldn't make an argument
You know boys aren't really kept in addicts boys aren't kept in basements
Boys are violently raped and then murdered relatively quickly because no one wants us around stinky and smelly yelling all the time
We can't make the babies. We can't make the babies. There's really one when our butts are gone when a boy's butt has been firmly used
What uses he it's done. It's never going back to normal size. That's a ruin in the end
It's like yeah, he they all know that they all know that's just like well
You just have to get a bunch of disposable little boys you do you do and I mean getting just dying via blood loss from the anus
That's gonna take a second. I mean doesn't that take I mean I'd imagine
I just just gushed right out of there just every one of these boys or every one of these I guess not necessarily boys
Yeah, I don't think it's like a Pringles can anything you pop the top. It's just like gushes right out
No, I don't know takes a little while
Yeah, I mean it's just you know when you think it couldn't get any worse
Just remember you could be one of those five boys in Adelaide when you're I would just find it would be really scary if they
Found them all like jet like a like on top of parking meters. That would be amazing all up in there
And he's like all my little marionettes. We got time for one quick one out of us, Austria
Yeah, of course because at the time of Joseph Fritzel there was another case very similar
This is a sick country. I guess so I mean how many do we have Austrian listeners? I think we do listen
Let the girls go let the girls everybody that we have in Austria
I know you guys don't have girls in your basements go sneak around your neighbor's houses and find all of the girls
The big thing is that if you ever think it's like a parrot or a parakeet going like I don't mean it's like no
It's a person. It's a person. You know they are in a base. You have your own Goonies moment have a Goonies weekend
Well, it was a big problem for Austria at the time. I guess so and the prime minister
It's cuz they had such big basements. It's like they were asking for it
Well, the prime minister of Austria went on TV is like we are a wonderful country
Not the land of dungeons. I feel like you could mark it Austria
So what's this other guy who got totally trumped out by Fritzel?
Well, the girls name the girls kidnapped she was a 10-year-old named Natasha compouche
She left her family's residence in Vienna's Donoff Stott district in the morning of March 2nd
Who'd ever live in a place like that? Well, very nice listeners of last podcast on the left wood
You're pretty face because go to hell Thursdays at midnight
She failed to arrive at school to come home and a 12-year-old witness reported having seen her dragged into a white mini van by two men
Although campus did not report a second man being present a massive police effort followed in which
776 mini vans were examined
Including that of the actual
kidnapper wolf gain
Then cloppel then cloppel are you telling me a pink cloppel did this
The construction pink cloppel family mm-hmm
Yep, he stated that on the morning of the kidnapping
He was alone at home when the police were satisfied with his explanation that he was using the minivan to transport rubble from the construction
Oh, they were a construction. Well, that's really strange
Also, I feel like a lot of minivans in Austria are just used to transport rocks mostly. That's just what they do
Yeah, so the police is okay. So a woman goes missing the police doing a crack investigation
Yeah, they just ask him where were you and he says I was at home
I was just chilling out, bro. I mean he was one of 776
Well, then which one is going to be all set hanging out saying at home alone
Well, yeah, the problem is is that there was a common joke in Austria at the time is you have someone would you do less than that?
And he's like raping my daughter to my dungeon
He was literally home alone like oh he has no life at all. That's so sad
He's got to make up all those wonderful fairy tales
Well, while she was captive Wolf game would beat her so badly
She could hardly walk when she was beaten black and blue
He would take his camera out and photograph her so he could presumably whack off to the pictures after or show them to her and say like
This is what I'm doing to you. Mm-hmm. She's like, I know I feel it. Yep. I'm living it, buddy
and so in
2006 same year as
As Joseph Fritzel's lady was escaping
Someone called a pinot pin clopple on his mobile phone
She was back. Oh, they just have to tell us calling me on my mobile. He didn't keep her in the basement
He would bring her out. She was vacuuming his car. He walked away to take the call and
When he walked away, she just left the vacuum cleaner running and then just fucking
Fuckin idiot
Yeah, he left a bag of her he made a she made a
Very crude mannequin of her body with her clothes all filled with with car dust
She's just running down the road his last words were like, but what about my car? You're not done with the car
There's still pennies every night. I never thought she was gonna betray me like that
Yeah, she ran 200 meters through gardens and streets jumping fences and asking passersby to call the police
But nobody paid her any attention brilliant again because it was a common running joke
And all the girls used to do this all the time run through the guards be like oh, I'm running from a dungeon
How don't you call the place just call the place well, she had she cut off all her fingers. Oh, I see
But if somebody runs up to you, I mean no one's running into your arms
I could help somebody and this is a huge case
The this is a it was much like the Cleveland case where she ran up to a 71 year old lady and said I am Natasha
Kampush and the old lady immediately knew who she was she called the police
Yeah, cuz they're watching the news and then pit but cuz their daughters having said hello to them in years and years
I was just nice to see a young person again forever
Pincloppel he knew that after he knew the police were on his tail mother fucker jumped in front of a train killed himself
Wow ruined the day's commute though, too. What an asshole here's a weird twist to the story
Kampush bought the house that she was imprisoned in I mean you can't deny good architecture
Was it you know if it's got good flow and it's got big rooms and a lot of windows
And you know it's a nice place to have there's not a lot of options in Austria for real estate, you know
She's a regular visitor to the property and by 2009
She was cleaning it out to possibly move in herself in 2010. She said that she retained the house because it was such a
Big part of her formative years
Also stating that she would fill in the cellar if it was ever sold adamant that it would never become a macaw
Museum to her lost adolescent
Table down there. I mean yeah, you know room and then she went. Yeah, she threw the killer
Rager of all ragers that in Fritzel's fucking house. That's fucking sweet
I'd love to go to a party talked about a story on roundtable where Austrian kids go down to Fritzel's rape basement and have fucking ragers
Of course. Yeah, yeah playing Pantera
Like pretending to be tied up going like
I firmly believe that studio 54 saw far more horrors than Fritzel's basement
Oh, yeah, I had a problem put a disco ball down there at a 15 year old Brooks Shields and roller skates in Dio 54
I don't know what they were having a lot of people died from anal bleeding studio 54 a lot of people
Yeah, a lot of bodies. I just feel like it would be a type of death. I'd hear more of I don't I don't ever remember hearing people dying of
Anal no, I think it happens very rarely. I mean it has to happen on purpose you really got to
Want it you got to work. It doesn't happen doesn't happen on now. No, okay?
Well, it's bleeding what kills you is the bleeding of the digestive tract
Okay, yeah, so you really got it. You're just looking up like anal bleeding questions rectal bleeding rectal
Scientific so how far up of the but do you have to go before you rupture?
I think you literally have to hit the wazoo. The wazoo. I think that's the medical medical term
Yeah, the wazoo. Yeah, so he was bleeding from his wazoo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's when you fill him up to his giblets
That's what he gets it, but a lot of times he's asking for it
So yeah, yeah, yeah, he's screaming for it actually going like no, oh feel me like a fucking Christmas turkey
Yeah, no, I've heard people say that before
Mm-hmm Christmas turkey speaking of turkey. It's almost lunchtime. It is almost lunch time
We're gonna have to go get some food and massive bleeding. I mean, I don't you don't die from loss of blood you die from toxic shock
Relatively quickly. Yeah, so these guys were just trying to feel weak dizzy faint short of breath have extreme cramps and diarrhea
That's the thing that you're bleeding and you've got diarrhea
Somebody's favorite little thing in this adelaide at the same time and you're just sitting there while you rise it and die
And they're just playing that you know like she spins me right round baby right round
They're all like dancing around you while you're dying there. That's the worst. That's probably the worst part
That would be the worst if I hear that song before I die
I'm gonna know there was no God, you know, and there was no reason to be here at all. That's that's a really quite tragic
All right. Well, I think we covered some fun murder topics today again
I'm just gonna put a thing out there to all last podcast listeners
You know, let the girl go let the girl go let the girl go let her go let her go
You know our fans are heroes let her go and if she turns you in face the music
That's you know, just be a man
It's your it you made this or be a lady if you're a lady with a captive
Well, we have a very dungeon now. It's time to sleep in it, buddy
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That is a trick that's a trick don't put on the dog collar big trick
He got you. He's not a photographer for glamour magazine. He's never is you're beautiful and you are a model
Go through agents. That's right agencies that you have contact first. They don't approach you on the street
That's right. Just don't take any business. Take a business card. Yeah, the business card
The business card is actually just a small cut-up piece of a McDonald's
Big Mac Whopper Big Mac Whopper. That's what my mom sounds like. It's a Big Mac Whopper
They should make me so mad when I was a fat kid when I was such a fat piece of shit little kid
She's we go to McDonald's. She's like you let me get a Whopper and I was like mom Whopper's a Burger King
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