Last Podcast On The Left - Episode 81: Female Serial Killers

Episode Date: February 17, 2015

The psychology and motivations behind women who kill! From Elizabeth Bathory to Aileen Wournos, we explore the reasons behind the killing sprees of the fairer sex. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? It's a thing that happens only in hell. Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty certain. What, a mosquito biting you between your dick and balls? Yeah, that's what I'm sitting on. Like if you lift up your dick and that little crevice there, that's where it bit you? Yeah, absolutely, and it's just like a... How to find it? You know, I guess it read my diary. Yeah, it's adventurous. I just wish a mosquito, dear diary, I wish a mosquito would bite me between my dick and balls. I'll do it. I'll die in the mission. Is it a talent? Oh, yeah, definitely. I fucking, because I can do that thing where I'm not... I can't do it. Welcome to the show, everybody. That's Marcus Parks. I am Ben Kissel. With us as always, the recently wounded and injured Henry Zabrowski.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Oh, oh, oh, we're doing... Oh, man. Ah, giving up on children. Giving up on children to the fat perverts at TSA. What? You were just prepared for the pedophile government. Is Alex Jones with us today? Yeah, I don't think you should have recorded today. I should when you just see the evil that's in front of you. Alex is so amazing, of course. What pedophile government? The pedophile government picking up the kids from the airport.
Starting point is 00:01:34 He's directly referencing the Franklin cover-up of the Franklin credit union scandal of the early 90s. We've got to do a whole episode on it. Absolutely. And this is kind of the problem with talking about MKUltra and talking about that. Is that it's real. It totally happened. The government officials are fucking our children. They love to. We don't know if they're doing it specifically for ancient evil magic. Sure. But we do know for a fact that it's happening. Yeah, they might just be doing it to come. That's a possibility. Oh, yeah. Just come thick, solid, three-foot ropes, a jism all over the kids. And the kids just... Make little DNA strands with them.
Starting point is 00:02:06 The best part about a kid is that they're so resilient. They don't even know. They're just like... Yeah, they don't know. They don't remember. Oh, it's spaghetti. Y'all, when Senator Kaufman came over, he made spaghetti on my chest. All right. Well, let's just edit that right out. All right. We'll take it. Can we start with... Can we get this party started to today's episode? It's latest night, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Of course, today, upon viewer request... Hell, yeah. We will be discussing the greatest female serial killers of all time. Pop your bras off. That's right. Pop your bras off. The revolution has won women rule the world. I just want women to be comfortable, and I keep hearing that bras are uncomfortable. I've heard that. Yeah, they scratch your back with the nipples.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah, yeah. Let them swing, girls. This is your night, baby. That's right. Female serial killers. I feel like we could say the same thing about probably me and you, to be honest. We both sort of have a male breast situation. Take off your panties. Let your pussy out. That's right. But of course... Oh, my. I think she's... What happens when a pussy comes up? Is she raising up in the air three feet?
Starting point is 00:03:23 That's a sound a vagina makes to me. Yeah. Stay away, Henry. We've seen Marilyn Monroe's dress when the subway air gussed that up. Yeah, it made it noise like... And then her vagina. You could imagine how wavy that was. An American flag on the 4th of July. Yeah, it's like Abe Vagoda's cheeks.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh, indeed. Very flexible. Female serial killers. That's right. Of course, now, female serial killers are different than male serial killers, of course, because men and women are different. So let's get into some psychology of the female serial killer. Well, first of all, there are, yes, less female serial killers than male serial killers. However, percentage-wise, among female killers, more are serial murders than one-time killers. Yes, so if they're going to do it, they do it often and they do it well.
Starting point is 00:04:16 A lot of these times they talk about, too, we're going to break down the nine different types of female serial killers that you see more often than not. I mean, it's a weird type to even pin down because, you know, there's no domers in this group. Hate to disappoint everybody. There's no freezers in the head. There's no Thai boys running away in handcuffs. That's the thing is that there's no, like, you know... I just wanted to hear one story of, like, I cut his head off and I made him eat my pussy. Right. The closest is Elizabeth Bathory.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But even then, I think that's more myth. And that's what they said. That's like 1900s sensationalism where she's just like, I laid down with him and felt much excitement. Women haven't had orgasms. They didn't have orgasms until 1969. Oh, yeah. No, not until dudes got real cool. Oh, yeah. But let's go into Elizabeth for a second. Why was she so famous? Elizabeth Bathory was a Hungarian countess from way back in the day.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That's right. And it said that she... Probably didn't woman that you're into. She's like five foot two, three hundred and twenty-five pounds. Now you're talking about me. Like milk jugs for legs. I could. And the legend says that she supposedly killed about six hundred young girls who had bathed in their blood in order to make herself look youthful and exuberant,
Starting point is 00:05:28 although she was only officially blamed for 80 murders. And she was never tried or convicted of any of these. All they did is they blamed her for it. They walled her up in a room and then she died four years later. Just old punishments were the best punishments. They were the best punishments. And you say, do you remember Iron Maidens? That was just a tube that had spikes in it. And they just put you in it.
Starting point is 00:05:49 How do you get walled up in a room? Don't at some point you just be like, hey guys, so you're forgetting to build the door. Where's the window in my breakfast nook? Yeah, because... Oh, it's a present. You're putting me in a present. Just keep on working. I don't want to just...
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's fine. Hey guys, hey guys, before we put that last brick in, can you just give me like nine gallons of blood? Just so I can have it while I'm in here. Of course that's also why Gwyneth Paltrow looks so good today. I've got a little bit more on the psychology before we go into the nine types. Of course. Is that women serial killers, they fantasize about their killings for years. Yeah, that's really...
Starting point is 00:06:25 Like they go through all these... It's like what girlfriends do to boyfriends over long periods of time. Yes, they plan meticulously. They study about ways in which they can dispose of the victims. They work their knowledge into their fantasies. They rehearse them over and over again. One female killer stated, I knew he would grunt when I strangled him because the cats did. I practiced on the cats for months.
Starting point is 00:06:45 They all grunted when they died. I liked the way I felt when I strangled them so I dreamed about it. I made my victims grunt in my fantasy life. I'm hard. Yeah, I mean that's the thing. Kids nowadays just have posters of one direction on the wall. It's like get it together, start strangling the cats. And the majority of female serial killers, a lot of them, it's poisons, it's drugs, it's things like that.
Starting point is 00:07:07 They don't get up in front. There's no hammer to the face while he's struggling in the back of a car. There's a reason why. Because a lot of them do fantasize. When they fantasize about killing, they do fantasize about knives, hammers, as you say, things like that. But they don't believe they have the physical strength to be able to do it. Because they don't and they always need to remember that. So don't you dare come in with the chainsaw, ladies.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Do you think this makes female serial killers more intelligent and better than male serial killers? Obviously a man just wants to go out and strangle somebody, they can do it with their bare hands. Well, they're definitely more effective and they last longer, their careers are longer. And they do it for different reasons. That's a part of the psychology that we were talking about. Part of my own, like, three years of researching it. I just think there's just a difference between, besides just the normal differences between a penis and a vagina. There's also an immediacy to the ajakalashan.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's different than with women. It's just like a man, you know, like when BTK strung up the little girl in the otary house, he came like six times. Accidentally. Because that's what dudes do, they do it for that thrill. Where it's like a woman, she'd have to kill the dude and then it's lighting the candles. Dinner, getting married. Listen to some soft music. Yeah, I'll do all this stuff in order to finally reach a cresting slope of a musical orgasm.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Right, I agree, yeah. Alright. So what are some other psychological situations these ladies are going through? I mean, it is interesting though. I mean, if you're a chick, you're obviously inferior when it comes to strength for the most part. I'm speaking in general. Not my mother though. Not your mother, no.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And there were some very strong women out there. She had to make me. A very strong woman. Ed's mother. Oh, just a horse. You could have hit Ed's mom. You could throw a boat at Ed's mom. Oh, she was just catching in her mouth.
Starting point is 00:08:55 She was catching in her vagina. Have you ever seen the movie The Sandlot? Have you ever seen the movie The Sandlot? She's the dog. She's the dog. That's mean. Whoa, whoa. That's mean to say by Ed's mother.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Oh. Moment of silence. Okay, I think it was fine. We took it. We took it. The last point I want to make about the psychology, I find this extremely interesting. Is that over the last, say, 50 years or so, as women start getting more rights, they start entering into the workplace.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Uppity. We laugh the good chortle of three white men alone in a room. The women's rights act or the women's uppity act, whatever you want to call it. But as they get more rights and as they are integrated into a male-dominated society more, they kill more often for the same reasons that males do. Rage and control. Yeah, sure. Super, yeah, the rush.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah. The rush of the flush. Blood. Yeah. I understand that. Totally. That's why I ate a bunch of sliders this afternoon. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I've got nine sliders. You had nine sliders because I'm feeling the fucking, in the zone. I mean, I don't think you're going to have a rush or a flush in any time soon. I'm on the razor's edge of a Gandolfini type massive heart attack. Right. But he died in Italy having a very expensive dinner. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, you're going to die after a white castle and a bunch of Colt 45.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Sliders. Yeah. Yeah, white castle sliders. Of course. Silver bullet taking this werewolf down. No, I don't think so unless that silver bullet scores light. Now let's go for the nine types of female serial killers. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Most common. You've got your rotas. You've got your scary spice. Right. You've got your B Arthur's. B Arthur. First up, black widows. Very common.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Black widows, victims or relatives, close family such as grandchildren, children, partners, husbands or others. They kill for monetary gain. Most often life insurance. These women often kill anywhere between six and eight people over a period of 10 to 15 years. These are like sleeper cells. These are people that operate with patients over a long period of time and they just want your fucking cash.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Right. There's something that's even more cold blooded to me than somebody that just literally poisons you over a year just to get your money than somebody who's just like looking to chop off your head in order to come in. Well, now, I mean, oftentimes, you know, obviously men, they like the physical form of ladies and so they try to make money so that women will like them and that of course the woman likes the man with the money. Yeah, I couldn't have anybody in my life.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I didn't have my big fancy BMW. Indeed. Would you equate, I mean, Henry, what do you think, the idea of like a woman getting money as a serial killer, like a female serial killer getting cash, is the same ideas like what BTK or Dahmer had with sexual satisfaction? Yes, because they were so pent up and they couldn't communicate properly. I mean, except for, I mean, at the same time, Denis Raider was just the devil himself. He was an idiot.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's more like Richard Chase. Sure. The vampire of Sacramento just couldn't get hard unless he was murdering. Right. And this chick just couldn't get hard unless she was just a stack of cash in front of her. Well, yeah, well, she just wanted that cash. Yeah. Because she could buy all the vaginas in the world for all that cash. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That's true. But I think that is a fun comparison, though. The most prolific black widow was a Norwegian-American woman named Belle Gunness. Gunness. Gunness, who was just a hideous woman. Yeah. She killed over 40 men. Who married this Belle Gunness?
Starting point is 00:12:16 She had many suitors. Things were different back in the day. I guess so. What people like is, because you know how in the 70s, nobody wore bras? Right. Back in the 1800s, everybody looked like their own grandfather, including the women. That's true. He showed me.
Starting point is 00:12:33 What was the name of that woman that you showed us? Amelia Dyer. Amelia Dyer looks like the Quaker Oatsman. She does. She really does. She looks like you could break a bench over her face. She's like, get done yet? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Come here. Let me wash your nuts. Yeah. Break a bench and pick your nose. That was a very interesting one. She killed possibly over 400 babies over a period of 20 years, because back in those days, in Victorian times, it was extremely frowned upon if someone were to become pregnant. In fact, they would just completely just get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. Especially out of wedlock and stuff like that. Yeah. Out of wedlock. It was considered to be a mortal sin to have a baby out of wedlock, so they would have these baby farms, most like, you know, kind of like orphanages. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 The baby farm just looking at it. Oh, crops done. Yeah. It seems adorable in a weird way. A baby farm. Yeah, it does. Put your baby farm just sounds like a prison camp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 For single dudes. Indeed. Woo. Now, this cowboy can tie this stallion down with a baby, because I don't come. Oh, interesting. I don't have semen. What do you mean? What happened to your semen?
Starting point is 00:13:42 I think I'm out. What do you mean? You ran out of it? Like Spider-Man running out of web? I think I'm done with it. I don't think I can make any more. Have you tried recently? Every day.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Really? Pulling and tugging? I can't believe it. Wow, the first semenless man. That's all right. That's a fine. I'm fine with my air rifle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:04 But Amelia Dyer. I mean, do you give her 400 deaths if they're babies? Is it really, is it 400? It's on deaths. 200. It's between 200 and 400. You could pick up a baby and just, you could throw a baby over a fence and that's technically killing it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 It's an easy kill. Yeah. You don't feed it. You slam a baby's head in a door instead. Anytime, if it comes down to like just like not taking care of something and it dies, it's like you didn't really kill it. You could just not feed it. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And it dies. It's like many women are. It is a, what do you call that? Vulnerable? Not vulnerable. Like women are? Not barren. No.
Starting point is 00:14:39 No. No, that's your own thing. Okay. Let me just try to get the word where they're passive aggressive. What I'm saying, killing a baby is very passive aggressive. Just don't feed it. Here's her method. She would find these families who were looking at, she just kind of had a side business where
Starting point is 00:14:57 if you needed to get rid of a baby, you could give it to Amelia Dyer and you would think that it was going to an orphanage or something like that. They didn't want to kill the baby, but they thought that giving it to this woman was, you know, at least the Christian thing to do. She's a hero. It technically was the Christian thing to do. Technically. No, it's the exact same thing as those parents who dropped off their retarded kids in that
Starting point is 00:15:18 place that Geraldo Rivera revealed that Croftsie's based on. Oh yeah. They're like, oh, everything's going to be fine. You know you're giving your child away for death. You're just leaving. You're trying to just forget about the baby anyway, so it might as well be dead. Indeed. They paid her a handsome sum for this.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, four farthings. That's a lot of money back then. Four farthings. Oh, I could get nine pigeons for this. The many things I'll buy in the 1800s that are stupid. Ah, stool cleaner. Very good. Ah, yes, ivory ribs to keep me looking skinny.
Starting point is 00:15:52 What's an ivory rib consist of? It's just like those fucking corsets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name's Amelia. Nice to meet you, partner. Yeah. You're a big scary woman. Here's my baby.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Please take care of it nicely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take her real. Take her real. Good girl. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go home guilt-free. Just murder the fucking baby immediately.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Of course. How did she kill it? Uh, just, I mean, you know. Oh, just stabbing it? Yeah, just smothering it. Choking it? Yeah, smothering it. Smothering it and then burning it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You see, I just get a big wooden box and I just throw them in the box. Yeah, that's a good idea. I mean, can you just, if you have long nails, you could just like tear into a baby, right? You could just like do that. Yeah, if you're a fucking hyena. Okay, I mean, I don't know. If you're a jackal in the jungle, not if you're a classy lady of the 1800s. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Dang it. She only was convicted of one murder. That's all you need. Yeah. It was one baby murder. Yeah, one baby murder. Yeah, and they gave her more like a week of staring at the wall for punishment. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Oh, she killed an unnecessary baby. Technically, we should give her money. No, no, no. But we already have. We've got to punish her in some way. I wish they could just kill all the babies. So what are other types of female serial killers? They kind of jumped into her, but I just love her because she looks like fucking Bobcat Goldway.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I wish that you were her judge on trial. And by the way, she got paid 80 pounds per baby. That's huge. Pounds of rice. That's a lot of rice though. Oh, thank you. This is bitter day money. Oh, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You just jumped there yourself. There was not even a segue to an Asian situation happening. Like you said, rice. Immediately. He always finds a way. Always. Henry finds a way. Next up, we got angels of death.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Okay. Angels of death, they set themselves up as God. Praying on those who in her estimation are already marked for death. The sick in the hospitals or an aging relative whose daily support has been left in her hands. Since you have a lot of nurses, I would assume in this sort of situation. It's like the same people who like nerds who look at superhero movies and just be like, I don't like Thor. Thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I will kill Thor if I could. And possibly the best known of those is our only entry into this, into today's episode, a woman who kills for sexual pleasure. Okay. What's her name? Jane Tapan. Well, this is the same. This is another sort of an example of 1900s sort of sensationalism.
Starting point is 00:18:31 She says that she got sexual pleasure out of it. But they also said at the time reporters really made wild stories out of anything that was happening in the news. That is true. So I think it just sounds like there are a lot of nurses that seem to be compelled to kill for various reasons. Like either they think that they're doing mercy killings or they're just like, we got too many people in the hospital or they just love, they just think it's pretty when they go. I just got it. Oh, he's so cute.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Oh my God. I love to see when he goes. Oh, it's adorable. If I was a woman watching a man take his last breath would be the greatest moments of my life. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think that for most ladies, that's the thing that they want to see. So would you say that as opposed to sex that most male killers are driven by, it's money or compassion for female serial killers? Like literally it's compassion almost.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah. Jane Toppan killed 31 people. That's a lot of people. It's a bunch, yeah. She got to be a nurse at Cambridge Hospital and during her residency she used her patients as guinea pigs and experiments with morphine and atrophine. She would alter the prescribed dosages just to see what it did to their nervous system. That's just science. So she's a bit of a mangola.
Starting point is 00:19:41 She is a bit of a mangola. That's just some unit 3731 science. Yep. That's all it is. I bet they got some good stuff out of her. I mean, she didn't tell anybody about it. No. Right, she didn't write anything down.
Starting point is 00:19:52 No, no, she's doing real indie. But now she's real indie. She's underground. Yeah. She's like the pavement. She's the yo-la tango of experimental nursing. I agree. And you know who she started her entire career with?
Starting point is 00:20:03 She killed her landlords. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. The rent's too damn high. Yeah, she lived our dream. The dream that all of us have. I agree. So why did they get the, that's just a fact.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Why did they, why did they get the idea that she got sexual pleasure out of it? Was she ever busted? She said so. She did say so. Yeah, she would say so. So she would knock these people out. Who are her exact words? Aren't they written down?
Starting point is 00:20:24 It was just something like, I laid down with them and I felt a warmth in my cleft. Yeah, something like that. That's how there always is, just like a stern warmth crawled up my crevice. And I knew then, ah, I will have to be married to this ghost. Uh-huh. How it treated me so. I gotta go now. It's deft ghost fingers massaging my yule.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Did you say yule? This is weird. It's Swedish for whole. Then we have one Swedish listeners and Fanny isn't Fanny the Swedish listener. Is yule Swedish for whole? I don't think yule is Swedish for whole. But yes, please Fanny. Put the baby in the yule.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Is that, that's all I have. I'm sorry. Was that, that's, I don't know. Just skip me. Put the baby in the yule. Is that, that's cock me. I'm all over the place. Fanny, just answer.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I had five pieces of fried chicken for lunch. That's it? That's for problems. My blood sugar is just going whew, whew, whew, whew. As different parts of the skin are digested in my lower intestine. You look great. Kinda. It's whole.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Whole. You looked it up? Yeah. Whole. All right, Swedish is whole. Did you find Jane Toppins exact words? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 But apparently it's spelled H-A-L and there's a circle over the A. Ah. Ah, so like it's a whole. That's fucking great. Brilliant. All right. So what's another fucking good job? Fucking good work everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Let's not, it's nice. It's fine. It's how they spell the word. Who knows. Spell it with H in the O and the L and the E. That's how you know that it's spelled whole and it's red whole. It's a real Alex Jones moment you're having right now. Real Alex Jones moment.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Real government is taking all our spellings and making them German Swedish. Crazy. This pedophile government's doing a lot of stuff. A typical kill cycle for an angel of death is eight victims over a one to two year period. Okay. Although if the offender is mobile, meaning if they do house calls and the like, the number increases to 16 or more. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Their short careers are due to a tendency to brag about their actions. Oh, okay. That's the thing is everyone's got to shut their mouths. Stopping so cocky. People are too proud. I agree. Yeah, you can't be LeBron James in there. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You got to be the other guy on the heat that no one speaks to or never speaks. The quiet one. Who is also responsible for wins. This is how much I know about sports. That would be Chris Bosch. Thank you. That's the man you're referencing. Henry, you murdered a woman.
Starting point is 00:22:52 You going to talk about it? If you murdered a woman. No. You would never discuss it. No, no, no. That's the type of secret that I would keep to my grave. Intriguing, isn't it? Let's go on.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Next up is sexual predators. Okay. And in fact, Jane Topan is listed under sexual predators. Well, because she technically had that sexual. She had that sort of, that sexual edge to her, but it's still at the same time, it's not like the only one that we have, the only real genuine serial killer that exists in female history, because you know what they say, well-behaved women rarely make history. I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I've heard that. This is, let's cue her. Marcus. But don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Everybody's favorite lady. Uh-huh. She could wake up the world with her smile. Yes, she could.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yes, she could. The girl that everybody wants to be. I would love to date her. I wish she'd return my calls. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together. Eileen Wornos. Eileen Wornos. I love you, Eileen.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I love you, Eileen. I love you, Eileen. Have my babies, Eileen. This is amazing. Of course, yes. The most famous of all the females. After all. I just wanted to hear that.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And then she throws a ripest head up in the air. Eileen, the most famous of all the female serial killers. Well, she's the only real one. Yes. I mean, I'm saying that anyway. Well, because she did it for, well, there was some sort of debate for a long time as to whether or not she was just a revenge killer, which is another category of female serial killers, just in the fact that she was a prostitute,
Starting point is 00:24:53 that it was hitchhiting along the highways of America, killing what? She killed seven. Seven dudes, yeah. And so, but a lot, and so her original testimony, her saying that she, you know, dudes would rape her, and she'd beat them to death with a pipe or shoot them. Right. But now we know, upon subsequent interviews,
Starting point is 00:25:09 that that was not the case. She has totally revealed the fact that she got a, she got a pussy gush. She got a pussy gush. I got some audio. She doesn't talk about the pussy gush, but But that's what I mean. Here's a bit of a
Starting point is 00:25:23 I just feel like if we're going to talk about dude shooting cum every time, I agree. I kill somebody, I imagine that women just go like, they're like, like done like stabbing them, and then like lift their legs up spread eagle, and go,
Starting point is 00:25:35 like shoot squirt all over him. I've seen porno. I know what you're talking about. I agree. But you know the thing. I agree. I agree. I agree wholeheartedly.
Starting point is 00:25:49 She got a pussy gush. What's scarier in the world than beating a shit out of a dude with a lead pipe, take it off your panties, and then squirting all over it. It's amazing. That's horrifying.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I mean, if she would have done that to me, I would have one eye sort of open kind of blinking. I would be covered in blood, but then the cops would know I was still alive because I'd have a rock hard boner. Smile on. That's the thing. You were lucky enough to get killed by Eileen.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You did not die the worst death on the face of the planet. Your corpse is like normal corpse face, and then grows into a smile as the squirt shoots all over you. Oh, yeah. It will keep me alive. Let's get into detail.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Let's listen to her Eileen her own words. Let's remember how insane this is for a woman to hitchhike during, it was the 70s. This was the 80s. 80s and 90s. It was pretty, for a lone woman to hitchhike,
Starting point is 00:26:42 you have to be completely insane. Well, didn't she travel in a pair? Didn't she have a partner? She had a partner. She had a, the woman's name was, let's see here, her last name was Moore. Well, she's Danielson. Tyria Moore.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And they met at a gay bar in Daytona. Yeah. Because of course she's a Florida girl. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, which is a great, another popular serial killer hangout in Florida. So she's got the background. She's got the cred,
Starting point is 00:27:07 and now we're going to hear some words from her very own mouth that show that she's got what it takes to make the cut. Okay. I cannot go in the execution chamber and die in the execution chamber as a liar.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And I cannot go in the execution chamber and be executed under the devil. I have to come clean and cleanse my spirit in the name of Jesus Christ. So I have to come clean and tell the world the lies that went on through my mouth. I mean, now prosecutors and cops. Why not you,
Starting point is 00:27:43 and that you killed those seven men? Huh? That you killed those men in cold blood. Yeah, and I've got to come clean that I killed those seven men in first degree murder and robbery. As they said, they had it right. A serial killer.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Not so much like a thrill kill. I was into the robin biz. I mean, you know, serial killers are in this thrill killing jazz. I was into the robbing. Just to eliminate a witness. But still then again, I got a number. So it's serial killer.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I mean, she's really just sort of like the world's worst gold digger. You know? Because you're just robbing broke dudes on the highway. How much money do they have? Put some makeup on and get to Beverly Hills. Indeed. I think she's a little hot.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Her voice is attractive. Her voice is very attractive. I like the way she moves. And this plays into what we were discussing earlier about how men do it for sexual pleasure. She was in it for them. Well, looking at pictures of Jane Toppin, she kind of had it going on too.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I could end up being murdered by her as well. And then another idea that we were, we can't devolve this whole podcast into just how hot they were. But I think that we were talking about, we were going to, part of the joke that we were going to do for the podcast, should I bust it?
Starting point is 00:28:58 We're not going to do it, right? What? Our plan yesterday, our catfishing plan. I guess. I don't know, I thought you were going to do it. No, I don't have the guts. Let's not talk about it. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Now I feel like we've learned in trade and it may or may not happen. But Squeaky Fromm was hot. Yeah. Squeaky Fromm was very attractive. She was super hot. Yeah, Eileen, she's, I don't know, she's something else, man.
Starting point is 00:29:21 She just operates on a completely different level. She reminds me of Manson. She's got kind of the same flow as Manson. She's obviously, I mean, she's nuts. She's lived a life on the road and she's robbing people for money and then just popping them in the head. So that's something, I mean, it's just still, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:38 it's just hard. I don't know how she thought that the rape defense was going to fly. Is that like... Oh, I think that the rape defense is perfect. Seven times! I mean, I was trying to get... I don't think that that raped,
Starting point is 00:29:46 the notion that you would be raped by seven truck drivers while hitchhiking across America is not that odd to me. Yeah, that actually seems pretty unreasonable. Yeah, yeah, that seems like a thing. I imagine she was almost raped the majority of the time. Right. Yeah. The kindness was,
Starting point is 00:30:00 and I'm sure that that's a lot of where that came from, is that she, I forgot what her upbringing was. I mean, she didn't have a good say. Her upbringing was super fucked up. Her name was Eileen Carol Pittman. Yeah. Was her original name. And then she took her mother's name after her father,
Starting point is 00:30:16 after they divorced. She never met her father. He was in jail. He was a schizophrenic who was convicted of sex crimes against children. Yeah. He hanged himself in prison in 1969. When she was four, her mother...
Starting point is 00:30:31 The Beatles hung up the guitar. Isn't that something? When she was four, her mother abandoned all of the children, leaving them with the maternal grandparents. At nine, she engaged in sexual activities in school in exchange for cigarettes, drugs, and food. Hey, that makes two of us. Yeah, that's totally fun.
Starting point is 00:30:49 She also fucked her brother. She claimed that she was sexually assaulted and beaten as a child by her alcoholic grandfather. And according to her accusations, beating her, he would force her to strip out of all her clothes. At 13, she was pregnant by having been raped by a friend of the grandfather. Babies having babies.
Starting point is 00:31:08 She gave birth... That's the real issue here. Babies having babies, people. And she gave birth and gave it up for adoption. So somewhere out there is son or daughter of Wernos. You know, sometimes you don't... You probably dating her. Probably.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Sometimes you don't want to find your mother, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You imagine you find out it's... She's been a prostitute. She was a prostitute from the time she was 15 up until her capture. But she did mention Jesus. And I feel like we always have to... Whenever I hear the word Jesus, I always just say Hail Satan.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Hail Satan to you, Jesus. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Hail Satan. You got it?
Starting point is 00:31:46 I don't know what that is. Yeah, test. All right. Now, do we want to play more of the... Oh, let's play. Do you want to play the day before... The clip that I just played? Oh, by the way, as a matter of fact, I just realized there were a...
Starting point is 00:31:59 A minute work song. Come on, Eileen. Yeah. Come... It's come on. It's come on. It's an encouraging Eileen. It's not coming on Eileen.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Oh, this didn't... And it's Eileen. It's not Eileen. It's not Eileen. Okay. You're just thinking about... Do you know an Eileen? No.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Are you dating an Eileen right now? No, I don't... Um... No. I just... It reminds me of a joke. There was a one woman... One like woman in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:32:24 One of my dad... Every single time this woman passed like... Crawling by in her cane with her fake leg. My dad would always lean over and go... Put her name's Eileen. His father was a New York City police officer. Oh, yeah. I think that's a great joke.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Anyway, Marcus, let's... Well, the first clip that I played, that was with a British documentarian who followed Eileen Warnowski quite a while. And she was very... As you can hear, very lucid. The whole clip is about five minutes long. She's very lucid. She goes into the reasons why.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You know, she's like... I was filled with rage. I did it for monetary gain. I killed them in cold blood. The first one was an attempted rape. But after that, I just liked it. Yeah. But as she got closer to her execution...
Starting point is 00:33:11 Something... She... I don't know what the term is, but I think it's called... Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. Well, well, well, well. Hey, mister. Hey, mister. I think that's the term.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Hey, mister. Hey, mister. Yeah, she did inspire Mulan Rouge. Yeah. But as it came closer to her execution, she got nuttier and nuttier. And I've seen one of the document... The full documentary that the second... The first clip I played was from.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That is about a British couple that go from, like, when she's in prison all the way up until the execution and she just gets crazier and crazier the whole time. Yeah, I've seen this. It's pretty great. It's really great. Well, she's... It's the same thing, kind of the opposite effect.
Starting point is 00:33:55 What happened to Ted Bundy? Where Ted Bundy would go from super charming to being, like, really fucking erratic, like, when he was going through his trial and then towards the end he found some peace and then decided to actually finally say that he commended the crimes that he did. Right. She just kind of went full Manson towards the end.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Okay. Yeah. And here she is the day before her execution. I was just wondering how you're going to be, you know, nine o'clock tomorrow morning. Are you prepared? I'm prepared. I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I'm all right with it. Sounds all right. Sounds great. I'm all right with it, but, like I said, remember, let them know that I know that the cops knew who I was after Richard Mallory died. I left prints everywhere and they covered it up and let me kill the rest of those guys
Starting point is 00:34:47 to turn me into a serial killer. I know they did. Yeah. Now, that is a very interesting. That's one of the big theories that she put forward near the end of her life. She became convinced that the cops had made her into a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:35:00 But they were letting her go. Yeah. Yeah, they were letting her keep murdering and stuff like that. Was the hot dog squad also on her case? The BTK hot dog squad. I mean, because God knows, I'm sure Detective Popcorn could have probably solved the Eileen Warner case
Starting point is 00:35:13 fairly quickly. I can't believe, can you believe how much she touched his belt and his boots? Detective Popcorn, who do you think committed the murder? Carmel. It's such a delicious thing to pair with this savory flavor. There's a bloody man in the car. Hold on one second.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Okay. Oh, my lord. Having a sip of Coca-Cola and a bite of a hot dog is just put me in the chair because I have already seen heaven. Detective, we have to get to the bottom of this case. Oh, yes, of course. Got to look at the bodies. Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Let's look at the bodies. What do you see when you look at the male bodies? I love snow caps. They're crunchy and sweet. We have a lot. I'm so distracted. I have delicious membranes. We've got a lot of work to do.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Man, it's dead. I've got an idea, guys. Let's let her just be a serial killer. All right. I actually like that idea. I'm hungry for lunch. Boy, you guys want to go to the movies? You've met your life.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Detective Popcorn is the single greatest thing that's ever existed on radio. All right, let us continue on with more from Eileen. Because I was no professional serial killer or anything. I don't murder or whatever you want to call it. It wasn't special at all. Eileen, how? I did some sloppy work. How have you prepared yourself for tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm all right with it. I'm ready to go. Hey, I was tortured at BCI. They had the intercom on in the room, and they kept lying that it wasn't on, and they were using sonic pressure on my head since 1997. The same thing Richard Chase was also talking about with the government, like putting things in his head and listening to him,
Starting point is 00:37:17 and that's why he had to kill that 22-month-old baby and suck all its blood out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a normal reaction. But the thing is, is that he did something like really crazy. Right. You know? She just killed some dudes.
Starting point is 00:37:29 She just killed some rednecks. Yeah. Those dudes are probably fucking horrible to begin with. I mean, a man who would pick up a lot lizard at a parking lot. Yeah. A construction worker, an electronic store owner. A Native American, a police officer. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:44 A part-times rodeo worker named Charlie Karskadoon. Charlie! Now, I swear she killed Karskadoon. Where's Karskadoon? I can tell that Karskadoon is gone because there's still an almond joy left in the snack machine, because that Karskadoon, God damn it, how he fucked. He loved almond joy.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He hoards them almond joys, and I never get one. Where's Karskadoon? We need these barrels to be over in the arena by the six o'clock horse run. Karskadoon always had a lot of things to do. Mainly picking up prostitutes and eventually murderers. Karskadoon. Hi, my name's Charlie Karskadoon.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Mostly I handle horses, and a lot of times I just, you know, I try to put bees in enclosures. That's my big thing is that when bees escape from hives, it's my job to put them in some sort of basket or net. I mean, mostly I just get stung by bees. I'm highly attractive to bees. Well, I think you're going to fit in great here at Disney World. It says here you're a people person.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Oh, you bet. I mean, I'm a people person as in I am a person. I'm a people of the person. Oh, you do that very literally. Yes, yes. I mostly deal with horses and barrels and bees. Okay, okay. Well, I don't think we can allow you around children.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And you would be surprised how much the three overlap. Interesting. Interesting. Another of her victims was a sausage salesman. Oh, that's mean. What a poor fuck. She's hauling sausage across. Where did she operate in Texas, right?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Who, Eileen? Yeah. Florida. On the Florida highways? Yeah. Do you know where and what areas? Yeah, first one was Clearwater. What?
Starting point is 00:39:19 She's from my hometown? Yeah, that was the first murder. Richard Mallory was from Clearwater. Oh my God, I wonder if that was somebody's dad I know. Could be. Nah, probably not. Too old, right? I do know that.
Starting point is 00:39:32 What year was that? 1989. It's possible. Clearwater used to be pretty rough. I mean, not rough, but it used to be very underdeveloped. Yeah, it's possible. I do feel like the next victim is going to be John Candy from Plains Trains and Automobiles. Just a showering curtain salesman.
Starting point is 00:39:47 She's really killing a nice middle-class group of men here. Well, I mean, again, these are people who just abandoned their families long ago. Right. These are all just people, bookmarks, bookmark people that are waiting to just have that bookmark thrown in a garbage can. Yeah, yeah. I agree. That's how I view salesmen.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I mean, I think it was all around your area of Florida because it was like Winter Garden, Pasco County. My friend Angela lives in Winter Garden. Jupiter. I wonder if she got murdered. She's fine. I was saying this situation when we were discussing this serial killer, she's fine. Ocala?
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's another one near you, right? Ocala, yeah. Ocala. I mean, it's like two hours away from where my parents live. Yeah. There you go, yeah. Should I not give people the location of my parents? No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Your father's an officer. He wants people to come running. He wants people out of this fucking modern Florida. He really does. He'll stand to his ground. There's no doubt about that. All right, let's get a little bit more Eileen. I love Eileen.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Eileen. Eileen. Eileen. Eileen. She's got both legs. I think they had some kind of eye in the cell. I'm not sure, but every time I started writing something, it went up higher. So I'm thinking that probably had the TV rigged.
Starting point is 00:40:58 The TV or the mirror, something was rigged. They got a huge satellite on the compound. After they put the huge satellite on the compound, it could have been either rigged to the TV set or the mirror or something. Because the electrician, when he put the mirror on the wall, he said, doesn't that look like a computer? Something like Grandmother would say. Yeah, that's something your electrician was really retarded.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Not dark. Not dark. It looked like a computer. Yeah, it's just like, you know, it's just a square piece of style. That's style. What are you talking about? What are you, a surreal painter? I love the electrician.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He just totally cracked the code for it. Totally opened up her world. What electrician was put in the mirror? Yeah, exactly. It's a mirror. I think she just doesn't know what handymen are. Yeah, I think she gets it all wrong. She calls them all electricians.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. It's like my mom calls all superhero movies X-Men's. Yeah, the X-Men's. Did you say your X-Men's? Oh, Iron Man 2? Yeah. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, I saw my X-Men's.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It was mediocre. Yeah. X-Men's 2. I really enjoy the Avengers. Do you think what, did that affect your mind, do you think? Huh? Did that affect your mind? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It was crushing my head and they were using sonic pressure continually. Henry, do you think there's some merit here? I mean, we know that the government has used MK Ultra and things like this. No way. Nothing at all? No. I mean, there's a lot of people that, that's what they say a lot about these serial killers. So they are, they are people that broke out of their former MK Ultra training and these
Starting point is 00:42:25 are like the shattered people that are left and that's a part of where a lot of serial killers come from. There was Richard Chase again. Again, yeah. He keeps popping up and he was another example. Right. Ted Bundy said something along the same lines that he may have been a part of some sort of government training program.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But and it is true that a lot of these, they would use apparently little girls with this idea of a seductress model so that there is more famous examples that they say came out of MK Ultra like Marilyn Manson, not Marilyn Manson. Charles Manson. My fucking brain. Although Marilyn would be very happy that you made that mistake. Yes. No, Marilyn Monroe.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Marilyn Monroe was supposedly a sex droid created by the government and that's why she went because she could suck dick so good. She made the president come so hard in her, in her, in her dome piece. Right. Yeah. She got all the nuclear secrets. Oh. They were in a sperm?
Starting point is 00:43:17 But this is what scientists, this is what the government really, there was a sort of idea that they were like, we're going to make a lady suck dick so hard. Right. We're going to bring down governments. Right. Right. Right. And they just know that in the end, if it takes longer than two minutes, they're
Starting point is 00:43:31 going to get tired. I agree. They can't spend it all day doing this. All right. So you're not buying her idea that the government is. I think that she, I think that she was experiencing schizophrenic symptoms that came from her family line. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 She was diagnosed completely with borderline personality disorder. Yeah. She's totally nuts. And the pressure of the whole thing is making her go crazy. She could have, I mean, she could have a brain tumor. Yeah. Could be. You know.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And she's actually feeling pressure. I feel pressure all the time and that's mostly because I'm near in 30 and I really haven't done anything. That's not true. That's a different sort of sonic pressure. That's not true at all. It's not successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You've done a lot more than we have. Anymore with the. Over 30. You should be scared then. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's very sad.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You should feel this sonic pressure. Every time Henry complains about, like, I'm failing, I'm like, you have everything more than I do. And of course, check out Wolf of Wall Street. That's little films directed by that little director named Martin Scorsese with that little lead. He likes to be called Martini. Martini Scorsese.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. Yeah. You're doing real bad. You piece of shit. All right. All right. Four aliens. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Of course. Loads. Now, when I had three meetings with Ms. Villacorta on it, every meeting I had, she increased the pressure of the volume of the calm, increased the harassment on the floor, increased the trays being inedible, just increased every bit of my complaints and trashed all grievances. They're trying to make it look like I was crazy at all times, rig up the room with torture. If I said anything about their whole, I think their whole plan was trying to make it look like I was totally crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And so nobody would believe anything I had to say about anything. It totally worked. Yeah, definitely. What she's talking about there is in the last year or two that she was waiting at execution, she constantly talked about how the prison guards and the prison staff were mistreating her and torturing her and poisoning her food and all that type of shit. It was like she was in jail, you know? I will say that, I mean, I'm sure she got some weird treatment, but when it comes down
Starting point is 00:45:35 to it, she's just, yeah, she's crazy, she's crazy. But this is great though. I mean, do you feel, because, you know, honestly, it's bizarre. When Richard Ramirez died, I had a, I did have a part of me was mildly sad because you listened to these stories for so long. These are true American, these are true American icons. They are in this weird, disgusting, dark and sick way. What's really fucked up is that because we come from violence, we come from a culture
Starting point is 00:46:03 of extreme violence, our forefathers were murderers and the people who discovered this country were murderers and torturers. These are people that are, I mean, technically, they're coming straight from the fucking tree. You know, like she's like, she's like all this, she's like, what's his name, Andrew Jackson, he burned the south and it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, gene, you know, and, but this woman is, is unique in the fact that she, you know, she, she kind of, it's in a way that it's a part of how like we look at these two is like Richard Ramirez
Starting point is 00:46:36 is, gets embraced as a counterculture hero because in some way he's standing up to the status quo by doing what he's doing, even though he's a monster, like Eileen's kind of the same thing where it's like, you're really the only woman that kind of had the fortitude to do what you did. And I think, you know, you can make a strong argument that what the men are hunters. Yes. Women tend to be victims. So she played the role of a victim to get the hunter to attract her much like a possum
Starting point is 00:47:01 or much like a, what's, what's the thing with the, with the spikes? Uh, Sea urchin. No. A porcupine. A porcupine. Much like a porcupine. You know.
Starting point is 00:47:12 A dragon. I just love the words that I forget are just like the most primitive, like primal, like six year old words. What's that thing? It's also cause it's 115 degrees in this room. I've also had 12 beers, so that doesn't help before five. You gotta get used to it. You gotta work through it, man.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I know. I did eight hours a day. I just gotta just bring a bathing suit and take off all my clothes. But Henry, if you have a daughter, I mean Eileen is someone that you could almost look up to in a way. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah. I mean, you know, there's a lot of things, you know. There's Eileen Warnos, there's Amelia Earhart, who technically fucked up. Yeah. She died in the ocean. Mary Todd Lincoln, Big Nettos. Mary Todd. You know.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I don't know if we should. Dana Scully. Oh, yeah. Scully you can always go with. God, Dana Scully made me a man. No, I mean, I do think though, you know, these women are very important. If you have a daughter, you know, and you want to turn them on to how to be a powerful woman, I truly believe that she is an icon of the women's rights movement.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. Just hopefully you could teach your daughter how to better cope with the sonic pressure that the man is going to put up on. That's true. I mean, you know, and that sonic pressure comes in the, in the ways of construction workers can't call in them as they walk down Sixth Avenue. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's very interesting, but like, so there's been a lot of, there's a lot of insight that you see with these researchers, especially the difference between the sexes with how like psychosis comes out in that. This is interesting. This video that we've been watching, the name of the user is Eileen Wernos. Oh my God. Is it her YouTube account? It uses her mug shot as a picture and under the description, it says, interviewed one
Starting point is 00:48:53 day before my execution. Very cool. All right. This is weird. I think that's kind of how like all the curious George books take place from his perspective. Right. I think there's something like that. I think there's something like that.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Someone's playing a character. Oh. Somebody's getting an SNL real wedding, right? I like it. Oh, she's going to replace that Brian Moynihan or Bobby Moynihan rather. Bobby Moynihan. Do you want to say any more from Eileen? Of course.
Starting point is 00:49:17 If you want to. Whatever. Henry, do you want to? Yeah. Let's take it out. Let's take it out with some Eileen. Let's do some more. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I skipped ahead. I skipped ahead. Actually, no, we haven't. All right. Let's go back to Eileen. Well, there's really one woman that I really want to talk about. Let's do it then. That's Mary Beth Tinning.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Okay, great. Yes. Yes, please. I really want to talk about her because she is, this is bone chilling. Yeah. I mean, and so we're going to close a chapter in Eileen Moreno's God Lover. Yeah. And check out the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:49:44 What's it called? It's just called Eileen Moreno's Gone Insane. Great. So check that out and you can listen to this. A little biased with the reported. But check that out. Eileen Moreno's Crazy Go Crazy Crazy. You know, cray-cray.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. Yes, of course, of course. All right. Well, this woman, Mary Beth Tinning, I was looking up something else. It's a woman, Mary Beth. You're looking at porn on that computer while we're doing this. Are you checking off Eileen? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:50:09 You got to stop being attracted to her. Yeah. Get over it, man. Get over it. Ah! Lover. You got to get your truck driver's license before you could be with her. You got to, like, you know, be real sad.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I'm willing to put in the work necessary to make this relationship happen. You just go ahead and strike while the iron is hot while she's cold in the grave. Well, yeah. I'm going to go to Michigan and fuck the ground under the tree where she had her ashes spread. You know what? Let's just move on. Let's just move on. I feel fine with it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Well, Mary Beth Tinning, surname Ro, she was born in Duane'sburg, small town here in New York. Oh, yeah! Yeah! She's- New York! Congratulation! Congratulations, man!
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah! She tried to kill herself several times as a child. Ah! As a child! That was the thing, as a baby. Can you imagine being, I mean, like, I had a bad childhood, but at the same time, you know, I was just, I loved Ghostbusters. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Too much, yeah. Well, over the next few years, she just worked in a series of low-wage jobs. She became a nurse's aide in Schenectady, and in 1963, she met her husband, Joe Tinning, on a blind date. They married two years later. What a prize he must have been. These two. These two were a fun bunch.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah, definitely. Well, Mary Beth, at this point, had two children. Okay. And how old was she now? Yeah, one, two, and one, four. The children. One was two, and one was four. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:37 One was two, one was four, and they died. Okay. Mysteriously. Interesting. Mysteriously. And then she had another baby, a couple of kids. It died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Ah, right. Again, she brought it to the emergency room, all of them. She brought them into the emergency room, complaining that they were convulsing, and then insisted that she'd bring them home, and then she'd bring them home, and then she'd show back up with them dead. And it happened three times in a row. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And she had another baby, and it died. Same exact thing. All right. And then another one, and another one, and another one. She gave birth to and killed eight children. Never mind the fact that she adopted one. Yeah. And murdered that.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah. The same exact way. This is an example of Munchausen Biproxy Syndrome. Okay. This is in which you kill or put another person in some sort of bad medical state in order to gain attention for yourself. Yeah. In order to feel some sort of like sympathy from people.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah. Because her father died around the time when she got, after she had her first two kids, her father died, and there's some who say that her first child died of natural causes. Okay. And then there seems to be a connection to the feeling that she got when that first baby died, and everyone was like, oh, Mary Beth, and she's just like, yes, it's mine. Yeah. It's mine.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Well, that would make sense as opposed. Kind of how like, it's kind of like the psychological edge you have over like the opposite sex or whoever you're attracted to when someone's like cheated on you. You're going to be like, oh, you know, I guess I just wasn't good enough for him. You know? And they're just like, ah, boy, yeah, I'll get ya. Well, I think it's interesting, too. I feel like that's why a lot of people, you know, attempt to commit suicide because they
Starting point is 00:53:29 have this idea, this notion that people are going to go to their funeral and mourn them. Yeah. And then her father died, and she got mourned. Yes. And then her son died, or daughter died, and she got mourned. Well, she's alive. Well, she's alive. So she can actually feel it.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah. I could, if you have a suicidal, if the idea of suicide for that reason, and I think that's why a lot of people commit suicide is enticing to you, that makes perfect sense. It just drives me fucking nuts is the fact that it happens so many times in a row, and nobody said shit. Three babies in a row where it said it was sins. Three in a row. Three in a row, because she's literally, she'd just have them.
Starting point is 00:54:03 The last four, the last four, she killed as soon as they were born. Sure. They were born, and they were out of her like months, and she murdered them. Well, right. And it's just like, I just can't imagine, because women and men are different in the fact that biologically, women are so much more like, they're attached to the baby, because the baby's floating around inside your fucking vagina for, for a long time, not your vagina. Uterus.
Starting point is 00:54:30 The, the uterus. The Buddha. That's what they call in England. Yeah. The Buddha. Because the boot is the trunk in England. Yeah. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:54:39 No. But obviously it makes a lot of sense. You're more connected to the body because you're feeding it for nine months, and we're just sitting there being like, can I drink a beer? Is it okay if I drink a beer? You can't drink. But can I drink beer? Oh, you're getting pizza with pineapple on it.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I'll call you, so can I have some? Okay. Yeah. That's fun. Oh, you're eating pickles and ice cream? That sounds good, actually. That's great. Can I drink this whole bottle of vodka?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Oh, yeah. That's great. You can. I'm going to go out with the boys. You're not, you just, you go to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. You're pregnant.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You're pregnant. You know. You're like a human anchor. That's the thing. No one wants to see you outside. Nobody wants to see you outside. Can't keep me down. I'm a human kite.
Starting point is 00:55:19 That's right. I live on a wind. He flies. I'm flying. I'm like a, I'm like a bird that's attached to a horse's hair running through a field. If you're a fan of the show, please write in a comment, Hi Flying Kite, Henry's a Browsky. That's what I want written on your tube stone. He was a Hi Flying Kite.
Starting point is 00:55:40 We certainly is going up to that spinning wheel in the sky. No doubt. But I agree. And obviously had these kids, it's a very long wait for sympathy. Yes. It's a very long. Yeah. That patience.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Again, it's a slow cooker. Yeah. Because you also have to convince your husband to get you pregnant again over and over again. Oh, wait. At that time, he was, this husband's actually doing great. He's getting out scot-free. He doesn't have to raise a family. All he has to do, I mean, this was the first form of birth control.
Starting point is 00:56:09 She happened to be a serial killer, but if you're her husband, all she wants to do is constantly have sex with you and then you don't have to raise a family. Or until the baby sticks and you're going, you're just going to do it to the baby sticks. Sticks inside my gut because she's a, that's what everyone said too, is that she's super weird. She's weird and stuff like that. Yeah. Don't forget to buy Henry's a Browsky's line of a pregnancy test where it just says, the
Starting point is 00:56:38 baby stick. Did it stick and fall out? Yeah. It fell out or stick? It stuck. It stuck. It stuck or it fell out. Well, I got one more story involving babies.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Let's do it. And women murdering. Yeah. Good because all these stories are just fucking, they're all slow and my seamen down, which is nice. Yeah. These are known as the C-section murders. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:05 In October, 2011, Annette Morales Rodriguez, a 34-year-old mother of three, lived with a boyfriend who was expecting her to give birth to their baby within a matter of days, but that wasn't going to happen because she had been faking the pregnancy the entire time. Morales Rodriguez had lied to this man twice before about being pregnant and in the past to avoid exposure as a liar and a fake had falsely reported a pair of miscarriages. So time was running out for this woman. Sure. Her boy, if the dude-
Starting point is 00:57:31 But dude wanted her to be pregnant. Dude wanted her to be pregnant. Okay. He wanted to have a baby. But she couldn't have a baby. Yeah. She just wasn't pregnant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:40 So she wanted the baby. And the ancient parable of dude, dude, dude looks like a lady. This definitely fits under that. Right, right. So this woman, chapter one, verse seven, of love is an elevator. Yes. We have an elevator. Love is a battlefield.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Oh, yeah. What is it? Love is an elevator. Yeah. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Yeah. Love is an elevator.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Love is an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Love is an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love's an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. nucleus number eight ol-
Starting point is 00:58:27 Love. Yeah. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love is an elevator. Love opens a ring.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Love opens a ring. Love opens an elevator. Love opens an elevator. What's that thing there's like a holiday is it a Greek thing where they put the tiny man in the cake? They look up they put a king in a cake. It's called King's cake. You guys see what I'm talking about Google this so we just know that he's not losing his mind right now Usually record this show in the morning everybody at tonight. It's called the king king cake. Yes, okay, so this is a real thing Yeah, it's a god because I was very concerned for my best friend over here
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah, it's it's a type of cake associated with the Festival of Epiphany in Christmas. Okay. Oh, yeah, I'm very happy. That's a real Yeah, I got I got smarts. I mean, I don't know. I don't think they put a king in it. Yeah, they do They put a little king. It's a it's a trinket and it's a bean Okay, good much like a child would be it's rare in the United States. I got a Wikipedia up and I call my brain I got a Wikipedia right in my own head right. I don't need fancy computers But why would you put a piece of plastic or metal in a cake? Because the first kid to choke on it gets a wish That's the truth. Hopefully he wishes to die Yeah, King King cake exists. So how was she finally caught up? She kept carving these people up the jack-o-lantern murder
Starting point is 00:59:53 Oh, she only did it once they call it. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Oh, so she's not a real serial Well, she's not a serial killer. I didn't say it was a serial killing. I said it was a murder, but she did She went she found she found a woman picked up a woman from the Hispanic Community Center in Milwaukee Oh, leave her in Milwaukee. Milwaukee offered her a ride home You need a ride home on my seat. Yeah, by the way, never need a ride home Yeah, I'll take you home. Where do you where do you need to go? Um, where do I go? Where do I go? You pregnant? Good. Me miss me probably have baby. Me no fat Me no fat. Me still good wife. What's just getting the car? I'll take you someplace
Starting point is 01:00:35 So she says so she's taking this woman home and she says hold on a sec Let me stop at my place. I gotta change my shoes. Oh if a man ever said yeah, I gotta change my fucking shoes Looks like your belly's itchy. Let me scratch it with his hook Gotta change my shoes. And so she goes inside and just leaves the pregnant woman out there The pregnant woman comes in Where did she go? Where did where did woman force for take me? Just a second. Just getting new shoes over here She knocked on the door and as told the woman she had to be because pregnant women feel a lot. Sure
Starting point is 01:01:14 Come here. I have to make pee and you're good. You're good. See the how do you say how come on it? Yeah, that's fine And then as soon as she walks on the door Rodriguez Morales Rodriguez smashed her in the head with a baseball bat choked her until she passed out bound the victim's hand and feet with Duck tape covered her nose and mouth with the tape and then sliced into the woman's stomach with an exacto knife Oh, yeah, that's how you get it out the baby out and of course killed the infant as well. Yeah, of course. Yeah Oh, yeah, well, I mean I guess she's technically the most grizzly murder we got on here She's a grizzly one. Yeah, she really that's why I wanted to talk about yeah
Starting point is 01:01:51 She took the body down to the basement and called 911 and said that she just gave birth to a baby who wasn't breathing And then the paramedics showed up They cleaned off the infant wrapped it in a towel and handed it to the woman who had just murdered it New guys in the corner puking. It's got said that's from Tommy boy. Yeah, man I've been I really been working on my ID discovery voice lately What yeah, my ID it like if you watched that like the crime shows and all that when the medical examiner performed the autopsy It became obvious that the baby had been removed from its mother's body by an amateur. That's great Really good
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah, you're a superstar, bro Yeah, that's good. Um, all right. Well, I guess are we wrapping that up? I think we're gonna wrap up There's other types of there's revenge killers as a couple of things at the same time I feel like we really covered a lot of it you go girl you go girl I you know, honestly, let's get a let's get some better serial killers out there Into a fucking teepee do something do something. I'm not advocating murder No, it would be really interesting if something new and fun would happen with a female
Starting point is 01:03:04 Serial killer. It would be interesting Magustalations everybody can we take it out on a no our favorite song This is great. Whoo. It's been the feel-good episode of the week, huh? Hail Satan. Hail Satan. I'll be magustal a show We can't hail Satan enough by the way. Yeah, absolutely not and you led. Let's get a Hail Satan for the ladies out there. Hail Satan Ladies Get out there what you could sell that's right start murdering start murdering and of course hail yourselves everybody hail me And of course Oh, yes, very good. We landed her in the harbor

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