Last Podcast On The Left - Last Interview on the Left: Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett - Ready or Not 2: Here I Come
Episode Date: March 20, 2026The boys sit down with the masterminds behind Radio Silence Productions - Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett, Directors of the explosive new dark comedy horror, Ready or Not 2: Here I Come in theat...ers TODAY - March 20th! For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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All right, today, we are joined by a directing team.
We're joined by the directing team of Matt Bett Nettinelli Open and Tyler Gillette,
the men behind Radio Silence.
You've seen their movies.
You've seen Ready or Not, You've seen Scream 5, Scream 6, Abigail, Devils 2,
and you are going to see on March 20th their new movie, Ready or Not 2.
We're here with the Radio Silence, boys.
How you doing, Matt and Tyler?
Hey.
Hey, yes.
They're extremely excited to be here.
I know we said this earlier, but like, my God, this is.
Yeah, in the preamble.
That's a preamble.
Yes.
So let's run it back, guys.
What makes you fans of us?
How long you got?
Where do we begin?
Yeah, where to begin?
You know, when we used to do our own shorts, I'm not even kidding,
and we used to do shorts and we'd drive up to, like,
Lone Pine, we would listen to your guys' episodes the whole,
way.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All the time.
I can comfortably ask, because we talked about this.
We want to keep this light.
We want to keep this fun.
But would you feel that your entrance into the major Hollywood system has given you information
that you're trying to disseminate through your pop culture films in a way that we would find
entertaining and not frightening due to the truth of the information that you hold?
Yes, they're warning.
Yeah, we're just totally training the last.
Interesting.
You're going to get us killed.
Are you excited that there's two of you.
That way, if one of you mysteriously has a heart attack after this comes out,
they can't do it to both of you.
Yes, the radio silence legacy will continue on.
It's a long game.
We've been planning.
If there was a way for the government to leave your bodies,
how would you want that?
Like, honestly, how would you choose the government to kill you both?
Oh, man.
I want to be found.
like a fountain at a shopping mall, like
a busy shopping. Okay.
I think would be great. No, we can make that happen.
Yeah, no problem.
Oh, we can have you, you can fall through the skylight
to make sure that it's like, at the busiest time
of the holiday season, you fall through the skylight
and into...
Impaled into the middle of fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, a little girl must
scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt, how do you want to die?
I have to go of it.
Maybe that one.
Yeah, by the government, by the government.
Oh, boy, geez.
Could it be one of those things where it's like there's a bunch of versions of it?
So there's a bunch of conspiracy theories.
I hope so.
And it becomes one of those, is he dead things?
You're poisoned.
You're shot.
You're hung by the, you're hung from the ceiling.
You're electrocuted.
Yeah.
Yes.
In like different countries.
And so there's a bunch of mystery.
His suicide note was just the letter, why?
Yes.
Just know, I will make sure.
up. I will make sure your penis
is preserved in
formaldehyde for the rest of time.
I didn't want to ask, but...
The Moody Museum's already
on the line. It's great.
We're going to have it there for you. They're desperate
for cock. So let me ask you
guys, why do you
hate the rich so much?
Because obviously, I'm
looking at your home. I don't know. It's weird.
You ain't it.
Yeah, on the
desperate. Desperate
climb to reach that. It's very odd
how critical we are up there, right?
Yeah, but
I mean, because, you know, the Ready or Not
films, like, both of them are definitely
like criticisms on the rich
and how they play
with the, I mean, we're doing a series on the, like,
we're working on a series on the DePontz right now.
And, you know, the DePont
Foxcatcher murder was very much just
a man playing with the lives
of those that they see below them.
Like, what is it about that with
Ready or Not films that you guys wanted to bring to the forefront.
Abigail, too.
And Abigail as well, yeah.
Yeah, Abigail is a lot of it.
I think it's something that it just, I mean, it's unfortunately just a truism.
It's just, it's an evergreen truth that the rich will take advantage of everybody else, right?
At the end of the day.
Yeah.
And I think.
Yeah, and that a long enough timeline, if you've achieved that level of success, there's no way that you've avoided.
exploiting somebody or something on the path to that.
It's just not, that's just how the world operates, unfortunately.
Yeah.
So you have no grace for good billionaires.
Who are the good billionaires?
Are there good billionaires?
Do you not have any empathy for billionaires?
Do you think of how much pressure it is?
The ones that give it all away.
Yeah, the ones that give it all away.
I mean, come on.
Did you see how concerned Bill Gates was?
about his wife's STA.
He was super good.
I saw that.
I don't.
Oh my God.
But how much money has McKinsey Scott given away now?
What's the current?
That's the running.
I think seven.
Yeah, the running tally.
She must have so much fun throwing his money into every single place.
But like, she must, that must be a flat.
Yeah.
This is, this is one billion to keep men bald.
This is what?
The anti-viatican donations.
Has the last podcast got any of that McKinsey Scott Doe?
Has she kicked any of it your way, guys?
We haven't, have we?
Obviously, you could see I had my tith enhanced.
Avi, all of this body is reconstructed.
This is no way.
No one would choose this naturally.
This doesn't happen naturally.
Yeah.
It is interesting to see in horror movies how it mirrors society.
a lot of times.
And I feel like you guys are really hitting that nail on the head.
Did you grow up wealthy?
How do you know so much about these societies?
You know, it's funny.
I actually had a brush with it when I was a teenager.
One of my really good friends who I was in a band with for a lot of years was Daniel
Steelson.
And it was a very funny.
I was like in a punk man, just a much of scrappy kids.
And then our singer was Daniel Steelson.
And, you know, and he was a lovely, wonderful.
person who was like one of my best friends.
And, but it was a weird toe dip into, I live in Oakland.
I'm up in my parents' house actually right now.
And he lived in San Francisco.
And it was a weird toe dip into this entire other world that, you know, I don't think
most of us are familiar with.
Daniel Steele, the author?
The author.
Yeah.
Do you think that?
Yeah.
Her son was this guy, Nick.
And he was, he was wonderful.
And he, but, but, but, and he was really complicated, right?
It was really complicated.
Yeah.
with his wealth and yeah we didn't know that he was her he he joined a band I we were kids I mean we were like
teenagers and he joined the band I think we were like maybe 16 or something and it was at least probably
I mean it felt like forever as a kid but it was probably like six months before we even knew that his mom was
Daniel Steele but there were like weird tells where like someone would drop him off at practice
and there was like a car phone this is like in the 90s yeah it was like what you have a car phone
Do you feel like it gave him extra room?
Does just be something extra and something special that it was harder for somebody like you?
What's weird?
I mean, again, I could go on about this forever because he's probably one of the most charismatic, talented people I ever knew.
And he had this, and he had this like real, there's a duality that was obvious all the time,
where he was, he had this life that was different than the life.
that we all kind of lived with him.
I mean, we just did it like normal, like in a van with a bunch of guys sleeping on floors.
And then he'd come home and he had a different life.
And it was, it's like we were saying a second ago, he was always very conflicted about it.
And it was, and he was kind of embarrassed in the way that a teenager is embarrassed about
anything that they're not comfortable with around their friends.
Yeah, I don't know if that answers the question.
But yeah, it was weird.
I'm just going down memory line now.
No, no, this is a, and this is a great, actually a great no dogs in space moment
where we get to have that little trivia of the lead singer of Link.
80 was Daniel still steal son.
That's incredible.
I didn't know that because yeah, you guys were the, y'all were the first band signed to Asian
Man Records, right?
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got a little bit of punk pass.
So like in that, what, like, have you ever thought about like using that punk pass to kind
to kind of make a like green room style like punk horror movie?
I mean, we've talked about it a lot, right?
Tyler, like there's been a lot of, yeah.
Yeah, it's such a fucking rad subculture and a world to live in, especially in the 90s.
It was so, like, special.
And at least it felt like that to me at the time.
And, but you're always, the entire experience is you're going to like the worst places with like the scariest people who you've never met before.
And then you're like, let's play songs and run into each other and jump on each other for a few hours.
And then go to somebody's random house in the backwood somewhere to do.
whatever shit we're going to get into.
Every turn in that feels like there's an on-ramp to some great movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that sort of band past, I mean, that's very much built into, like, just how, you know,
the two of us work.
Like, it's, you know, we were a band of five when we started out, and, and now we're
just a sort of shitty old duet, but like the idea of just, like, you know, like, writing it out with
the buzz.
Normally, they start as a hot duet, and then all of a sudden there's, like, a horrid.
section.
We started with the
Lauren section and now we're down to
like some ukuleleys.
Yeah.
But that's how we run everything, you know?
Like we're just, we show up on set and we
want everyone to just play their
instrument as loud as possible.
And I mean, it's we, it's very,
very similar in, you know,
in its process to just play in with your buds.
Yeah. Do you ever look at directors who
direct movies alone and think that they're
chumps who work too hard?
Dude.
Yes.
We have buds.
I mean,
so many friends,
like,
they're just on an island alone
with their anxiety.
Fuck that.
We,
our buds who are directors,
we talk to them about it,
and there's a,
there's a very consistent
from everything like,
oh, wait,
one of you can just go,
like,
to the bathroom
during the day
without the entire crew knowing.
Without,
like,
I got eyes on,
I got eyes on Tyler.
He's going into the bathroom.
It's just a,
hey, man,
I'll be right.
right back. To the moment to moment thing of like, hey, this isn't working. How do we get through this? And it's so nice to not be stuck in some world where you have to believe you have all the answers and they have to be perfect to have that relationship where we can just be like, I don't think this is working. What do we do? And in the moment, you know, like a sport or like a band, just kind of get through it together. It makes all the difference. And it probably also helped to spread the success and failure to two. You know what I mean? Like it can't be. It can't be.
Because I'm certain that you woke away, and you have a massive success.
One of you walks away and was like, thank God he has me.
You know, like, one of our favorite things to do is to go on Amazon and read, like,
for something that we've made and read the worst reviews.
That's no fun to do by yourself.
It's only fun if you can, like, screen grab it and send it to, send a deer with your friend.
Is there one that, like, really stands out in your mind that, like, actually that was very clever?
Oh, shit.
I mean, we can pull some up and read it.
you know,
Windor.
Don't give them any fucking credit.
Don't fucking give them an inch.
You guys ever commiserate with the Felipeo brothers?
Do you know them at all?
You ever talk about being directing duos?
No,
we never,
yeah,
I haven't met them.
It's actually,
it's a small group of people when the DJ
occasionally puts on these events
and all the co-directors end up sitting at the same table.
And it's a small,
it's a small.
It's the kids table.
It's the outcast table.
Yeah.
And we're all,
down on by the rest of the DGA.
And it's like, like, Phil and, you know, Phil Lord and Chris Miller.
I mean, like, good, like, great people, great directors, but we're all, we're all the
stepkids.
Do you think that's what happened to the Cohen brothers is they were so sick at that
fucking table?
Yeah, they were never at our table, weirdly enough.
Can we get them at separate tables just to get them back together?
We, uh, they, they do, the, the president.
the DGA one year did come up to us at our table. And I remember it was like Akiva and Yorma from Lonely
Island and us. And I think Chris and Phil, but they were just, they straight up said, so it's like a
half a brain each. How does this work? Why do you need each other? We're both going to attack you.
That's how we're watching. Yeah, totally. I'm like that. The other's attacking from behind.
I actually, I have a technical question. I, I, because ready or not, Abigail, these are, a lot of it has
really, really intense, awesome action pieces, which I think are probably the hardest thing
in, like, stunt action things are probably one of the hardest things you shoot, right,
when you're going through this.
When you are building these things out, how specific are you in the script versus
it changing as you go on the day?
Like, all of the things that Samara Weaving goes through and ready or not, is all of that
fully scripted, or are you also playing things by ear and changing things as you go?
It's always pretty loose. I mean, I think you have to have a, you know, somewhat of a blueprint.
There has to be some specificity so you can design the set and, you know, get every, all of the
ingredients for the sequence have to sort of show up. And so that, that has to be present in the script.
But with ready or not, too, I mean, we were, we were moving so fast and flying so by the seat of our
pants with the sequel that we knew, you know, the sort of broad strokes of how the thing was going to
start and like what, how it had to conclude and what that had to sort of mean emotionally for the
characters. But within that, if you've got a great stunt team that is really good at improvising,
I mean, it's like watching any sort of great, you know, performer improvised. They, you sort of
look at the set and what you have and, oh, we've got these things are all break away. And, and the
brainstorm in the, you know, in the moment of, well, shit, let's throw this person through this. And it's, it's one of the most fun things because it is, it is so alive. And I mean, the only big stunt things that have to ever feel for us anyway are like super, super planned and rehearsed are the things where you're like pulling people up into the sky and, you know, wirework, things that require real rigging and, and there's real danger. You know, you just have to premeditate all of that. But the fight stuff, man,
And it's, it's really fun to watch.
And by the way, to throw at a cast member, like, hey, we know you rehearsed this.
What if we do this?
It's amazing to see how, you know, most of the fighting in our movies, it's not like John Wick shit.
You're watching people like in a bar fight, basically.
That's the kind of action that we, that we love.
And that stuff, like, it lends itself to this very improvisational kind of style.
But it is the hard stuff to shoot, man.
Samar Weaving's a fucking star, and she's also one of those people.
she sells the physical acting of abuse because like normally you got these like skinny leading ladies
they don't look like they can't kill people they can't kill fucking people.
Samara I believe can kill people.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you know that she had that like her guttural primal scream is one of the best in the business.
Did you know that she could do that before you got her on set?
No, we had no clue.
When she did that the first time, I remember her speed.
It was very early because we shot the end of the first writing or not first.
It was all in the first week.
And when she did her, she like rolls off the table and does like,
oh, ah, screams.
And that was the first time we heard it.
And it was like, oh, my God.
Yeah, everybody on set was like.
Yeah.
And then when we went into this movie to the sequel,
we definitely, that was a thing.
We were like, where is the right moment for this?
and we found a really good one
that we were like, oh yeah, that's when this has to happen.
Because you can't overuse it.
You can't make it.
You have to save it.
You have to be like, you're waiting for this.
It's like when you're waiting for like that special part of a song.
But Sam's a unicorn.
I think one of her superpowers is like she is one of the most beautiful human beings you'll ever see.
But there's zero vanity in the way that she approaches like every moment of her life.
She's so gross and silly and isn't afraid to like,
fuck up and be weird
and you know there's there's she's fearless
and and you need that
for for that character
very specifically. You're saying she's
so in other words she's Australian. Yeah.
Yeah totally.
I remember I met Margo Robbie and she was
like that she'd like burp and spit and then
go like sorry that mate like do that
and you're like I'm mesmerized
you're literally
you can do anything you can do anything I love
you with anything you want
it's the best.
There's actually a moment in Ready Your Not 2 where Sam was like, I want to spit at the end of this.
Is that cool?
We're like, absolutely.
Please do.
We'll talk a big luggy.
Yeah, Ready or Not Too?
It's, like, we got to see it.
It's such an incredibly fun movie.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun, man.
It's such a great time.
It's so much fun, just as good as the first one.
But, like, I mean, you guys, like, one of the things that I love about y'all's movies
is that your sense of pacing is so fucking good.
Like, you really know how to pace a movie.
So, like, when you approach a movie, like, as directors, do you all see yourselves as, like,
primarily, like, horror directors or action directors?
Because y'all are just action.
You're so fucking good at it.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, thank you.
I mean, I, you know, it's like, we never, like, think about it too specifically.
Because I think the way we came up, it's like, like, we both, like raised on Twilight Zone.
You know, like, that was, like, the touchstone that started everything.
thing for us. And so it was sort of like we love genre stuff. We love sci-fi, we love horror,
we love action, we love adventure. And so like when we first started working together, a lot of our
stuff would kind of dip into, like one little 10-minute short would be sci-fi, horror, and
adventure all kind of mixed up together. And I think we'd just take in that with us because it's like
we feel weird when something's not edging towards scary. We feel weird when something's not edging towards scary.
We feel weird when something's not edging towards action.
And we also feel weird when it's like lacking emotion,
because that's kind of what we always tie everything together with,
is how do you get, you know, someone like Samara at the center of this
that can kind of ground all of the action, all of the horror,
all of the emotion, and make it feel like it's cohesive in one thing
is always sort of the goal.
But it's a bit of we love it all and we get to play, you know,
kind of for a living now, which is incredible.
So it's this, how can we make this more actiony?
How can we make this more scary?
I mean, that's a conversation we have, I think, all the time.
It's like, let's lean harder this direction or that direction.
Yeah, and it's so fun to, like, have a grab bag of tricks, right?
Like, you don't, and tropes to play with.
All of those little subgenres, they have little dials that you can turn at different moments.
And so it just means you have so many tools at your disposal to, at the end of the day, like, surprise, surprise the audience.
and that's the movies that we grew up on did that so effortlessly.
And it feels like, you know, I mean, we could go on and on about how the business and
distribution has changed and how niche things have become because of streaming.
Like, we loved, like, you know, Terminator and aliens and, like, those movies that felt
like they could do all of these things.
And it all felt so effortless.
And it was because, you know, these were big ideas that were being made for huge audiences,
for everybody to see instead of just one person interested in, like,
robots sitting on their couch, you know, in their, in their house. And that's the, we have a
real muscle memory for, for those, for those types of movies and, and are really just trying to,
like, replicate the feeling of that in the stuff that we make. Yeah, man, going to the theater
is fucking awesome. I love it so much. Your movie comes out on March 20th, correct? Ready or not
yeah. Yeah, dude. So make sure you go out and see that movie in the theater. It's a big,
fucking action movie, big
horror movie, you guys are going to love it. I'm sure
it's going to be amazing. But
I got to ask about, like...
Oh, I thought you were going to hardcore. We were talking
about Gaza now, right? You're now
it's a hardcore. You give them the flop.
You set them up with the night.
Actually, yes.
Not Gaza.
But I am
I'm excited. When you see this, because obviously
we all want the movie theaters to survive.
I go to the movies at least once a week.
We want everything to be great.
Now, when everything that's going on in the news right now with the files coming out,
are you looking at this and be like, we can't buy this type of publicity?
I will say, shocking and disappointing how topical the movies that we make have become.
And sad how unsurprising it is.
Yeah.
But the weird thing that we saw bubble up when they released the new trailer was that this is Holly Weird conditioning people to be.
Henry, I believe you were circling this at the beginning.
Conditioning people to be used to the idea.
I'm sorry.
I believe I just said it out right.
Do the Lodomis family represent any particular family?
Do you have an inspiration?
Oh, man.
you are really trying to make a step in it.
No, I mean, look,
all the families.
You're just laying, fucking traps.
I think we know.
But it's the fun of, like,
living in this sort of heightened world of these billionaires,
is it feels like you can,
you can sort of be broad and specific at the same time.
And, you know, it also, I mean,
it's fun to, like, look at a class that is so out of reach
for for everyone that isn't in it,
that you can just,
you can dream up the wackiest thing
and it's probably not that wacky.
And I think that was really the compass,
like the sort of guiding light for us
on both of these movies was,
well, fuck, we don't know.
Like, what's the craziest rich people shit
you can, you could think of?
And, yeah, just bummed that some of it is,
It's real.
Some of it's real.
Yeah.
When you go into these executives offices,
this is one of my favorite phenomena
in this whole new awareness
that we're getting as a country right now, I guess,
which is you get to go into these very,
very powerful people's rooms,
the most elite of the entertainment industry,
and you pitch these things,
what are the looks on their faces?
Like when you say, like,
so this is when they systematically murder
all of the rich people.
And are they just sitting there just going like,
ha ha ha, ha, ha, that is simply fantasy.
Like, what a wonderful trip down to dream world that cannot happen.
Like, do you think that, like, how do they react in those rooms, like, and being in that world?
I am actually, I think we're surprised at how much everybody's always into it.
It always feels like.
Yeah. I think there's enough self-awareness, yeah, and a willingness to kind of,
to hold up a mirror
because they better
I mean I felt that way
when I watched the
the hunt that came out recently
and like how it showed like
bloodthirsty Democrats
and you know
I was like this is a lot of fun
sure
I had a great time with this
you know and so I'm enjoying this
but you guys really
not only do you focus on the rich
you focus on Satan
yes
and
and so Satan is a big part of your thing
and Satanism are
are you all Satanness
do you dabble?
I was raised Catholic.
You're halfway there, buddy.
You're halfway there, buddy.
I was raised Catholic too, man.
You're halfway there.
Don't notice that I didn't,
don't think that I didn't notice
that you slipped the satanic version
of hallelujah and ready or not.
I heard it.
I was going to ask,
what did you guys pick up on?
This one,
and there's a lot of in this,
it was funny,
there was a lot of conversations
when we were going,
you know,
going in like free production where we went back and we looked at there's this thing that the studios
do where they do a toe dip with uh critics and so before the movies even finished they show
like a dozen critics and then they tell you how shitty your movie is it's the worst and they tell you
how it's shitty and then you're just kind of bum for a few weeks and so you totally forget about it
which is happened on both of these movies and we went back when we were making this and looked at
what the critics said about the first movie and
like the number one headline was all the Satan stuff is awful and horrible and needs to go.
Maybe don't say Satan someone.
What?
Yeah.
And then, and it was quite, it was, for us, we were like, well, they're going to hate this next one because they're going to go to bad.
So much harder.
It goes so fucking hard with the Satanism.
And I love that.
That's what I love so much about because I'm a huge fan.
Like some of my favorite horror movies are the.
70s Hammer Horror films
that really dig
into the set like the Satanism like was this
movie like ready or not to was it inspired by
movies like you know devil's reign
to the devil a daughter like
where there's these cabals
lurking in the background
I mean all of it we talked a lot
about and I think it maybe
had to do with having come off of Abigail
because we talked a lot about like the Christopher Lee
stuff where it's just so
gothic and it's so
there's such a vibe
And our thing on this was the Lodomis's in the first one are like low rent amateur versions of Satanist,
kind of like pretending because maybe they saw a movie once and they put on a stupid fucking robe.
And so with this one, we were like-
Well, he even says it in the movie.
In the first one, he's like, oh, it was the 80s.
It was like the first thing he talks about.
They're playing make-believe.
It's like when you hear like how the mob watched the godfather and we're like, oh, we're going to do that.
That's our new thing.
Yeah.
And then for this one, we were like,
Yeah, but what if these guys are good at it?
Like, what if they're, they've got a cool temple and they've got the real robes and they, like, got the real goat pit and all this kind of fun stuff.
So we, it's kind of a spoiler.
Sorry, I didn't realize I was dipping into that.
But audiences got to know.
No, I think that brings them in.
I think it brings them in.
I think they're going to like that their, our audience is going to like that there's more Satan.
They're going to lie.
Like, I mean, you use the words goat pit in relation to a movie.
our audience is going to go see it.
Yeah, that's actually like a good thing for them.
Yeah.
I like when sequels, but honestly, I like when sequels expand versus like, let's just do the whole thing again.
Yeah, I love it.
No, no, the world building in this was like so much fun.
Like you really expand it because it's a direct sequel.
I mean, it begins where the first movie ends.
So, like, was there, was there any, like, challenges to doing a direct sequel to a movie?
I think the big thing for us was just knowing that over seven to seven years since we made the first one that it somehow like magically found a fandom that we wanted to deliver something that felt satisfying and obviously in the world of the first movie without being overly precious about it.
All of our favorite sequels, you know, like T2 and aliens, like they take they take the DNA of what's great about the first movie and, and,
they they apply it to something new and and fresh and surprising and ultimately like those movies
whether you see the first or not like you're just you can be such a fan of and enjoy and enjoy
them as a singular experience and I think for us that the the pressure was just how do we make
something and not be afraid to in some ways like maybe shit on the first movie a little bit and
not be like overly like overly cautious and and not try to be like too in a
nostalgic about what it is, but to maybe challenge ourselves and challenge the audience's
notion of what the movie could be.
And that was just, it was fun, but there was a lot of pressure in it, too, because you, you
obviously want to deliver something that people, you know, that people love and enjoy in the
same way as, you know, as the first movie.
The first movie felt really effortless.
I feel like that's what's so beautiful about that movie is the reason why it found
its audience is because it is wholly its own.
and it
like it's
it feels real
it feels awesome
I love their reactions
the family's reactions
and they're so fucking funny
and I guess that's also
what works about it
is that it's funny
scary bloody
yeah totally
and I think that like
so much is like
and what we were sort of
talking about like
the Satanist stuff
that we love the idea
of a modern
the modern interpretation
of something like
really ancient
and full of tradition
and how just bastardized
that has become
and by
I feel like that happens with all old institutions.
And we just, we love that you have people with all of like trappings of modern life,
like still trying to like hold on to something that has its roots in a time and a mythology
that are maybe like not even understandable.
There's, it's so old and so, you know, so uncanny and strange.
And that to us is like where all of that fun lives.
Like people like not knowing if the fucking devil exists.
Like all of that's just.
just so, it's just so sticky and, and fun.
How important was it to you that you be incredibly accurate about Satanism?
Were you?
I don't even know personally, to be honest.
Unfortunately, no, but I love you both.
I would love to know everything that we got wrong and how we,
that we did.
We had like a, there's a whole, like Elijah does a whole, um,
chant or speech or, you know, I don't know what you, a sermon.
Yeah.
And you can kind of hear at the beginning of it for, and, and that was one that we, Ryan, Ryan, one of the writers, guy in Ryan are the writers.
And Ryan, he's big into this stuff.
And he was like, I'm going to get you guys a nice, long thing.
So he wrote us out and it was funny.
We did an ADR.
And Elijah Wood was like, okay, so I'm just reading this.
I hope I'm not like, this is not some incantation.
Like, what is this entire paragraph?
No, it's easy to write stuff that sounds like it.
You know what's funny is that in my mind,
when I look at those types of ritual sequences,
whenever it throws to Satan,
it's like I think it's good for the audience to understand
because I think most people,
the audience doesn't fully understand Satanism as a whole
and all that.
Like, so it's like fine.
But it's like to me,
I always want to see a specific demon.
That is like literally my actual, like,
nitpick with every one of these, which is I want a specific
demon and a specific ritual for a specific demon.
Otherwise, I'm good to go.
Who is Belial?
Belial's wanted Satan's guys.
La Bale.
Yeah, well, it's an anagram of Belial.
Yeah, Belial, you got another name for Satan, Henry, right?
No, he's one of the guys.
He's a figure representing ultimate wickedness.
I've just always think of, I've always,
He was like, oh, the guy in the basket.
Yes.
That's where I always go to.
Because you know what it is, is that in Satanism, they replaced blood sacrifices with sex sacrifices.
So the idea was that eventually Anton LeVay was trying to say, no, no, no, no, we don't sacrifice animals.
We come.
That's what the, to mimic the spurt of energy from the neck of an animal.
Like, essentially, that's what you're doing.
And you are recreating the creative burst of life that is a flow of blood from a freshly open vein,
but you are transmuting it with your powerful seed.
Did you know your movie was about that?
Yeah.
And my question is, nah, is if for ready or not three, are you going to have people explode with cum instead of blood?
Yes.
And just have come explosions?
I think you just unlock how we up the end here.
Yeah.
You know how they said that they pitched aliens where James Cameron went in the room and he wrote alien and then he wrote like a dollar sign after aliens?
You just write ready or not three.
Come.
Yeah.
Like underneath on the big day.
Here we come.
Because here the two is here I come.
Big square around.
Here we come with a you.
The come in the title is not accidental, guys.
Otherwise, it was great.
I think the Satanism was great.
Yeah.
Awesome.
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Speaking of the explosions, like,
how much fun is it to make people
explode on camera? Like, to do those, like,
pops.
Extremely. Yeah. Yeah.
It's a fall.
over the course of the many people we've exploded.
The first movie was just a literal, like,
pyrotechnics in a plastic bag full of goo.
And we've sort of moved on to safer, more reliable technology now.
Our guys on this movie engineered this blood cannon
that looks like a drone out of, you know, Star Wars.
It has all these holes cut in the side
and these kind of fins that stick out of it.
And they hook it up to a big pneumatic, pneumatic tank and just like fire air through this thing.
Fill it with blood and fire, pressurized air through it.
And it's, I mean, there really is like a feeling of excitement on set.
Those events are the reason you show up, you know?
It's like there's a countdown.
And I mean, everything about it, it just feels so, so grand and exciting.
And messy as hell, it's just, it's a blast.
How hard is that to live in it?
This level.
You don't reset.
They're one and done.
They are.
It is.
And then the rest of the day or week or however long it has to be there,
the set is sticky and gross.
Oh, for the rest of the time.
But it's a vibe.
It's fun.
It's, you know.
I love that.
That's great.
What do you use?
Caro syrup?
Do you know?
What's your blood?
What's your blood mixed you?
We use the same mix on,
on the last few movies.
And it's,
it's a mix.
of caro syrup and then I you know they sort of thin it out for the blood canons because you want
you want more projection and then the stuff that we use on the actors is just a more viscous
because it you know it's it stretches better like you get the webbing and all of that you know
that great effect that feels really cinematic and so you can kind of water it down you put
sometimes they put dish um dish detergent in it like dish soap yeah also help it not break break up
So there are a bunch of little tricks
of the trade, but it's...
And then it helps clean easier, too.
Nick's a few times.
Yeah.
One question, I had you on set,
you had legendary director,
David Kronenberg as an actor.
Now, when you're looking at this fucking guy,
how do you tell him what to do?
Like, what is he doing?
How do you tell him what to do?
Is he one of those where it's like,
I dare you to direct me?
Like, is it one of those?
I mean, he's the nicest fucking dude.
He was, he was, that idea came about our casting director was, we were trying to find
something.
We had to cast it locally.
And he was like, David Cronenberg is a Toronto native and might be into this.
And we were like, oh my fucking God, that is the best idea we've ever heard.
And he, it was literally one call and Cronenberg was like, yeah, I'm in.
And you didn't have to push the script through like a membrane.
Like I thought that you'd have to.
You'd have to push it through.
open sphincter into like a goo.
But he was so lovely, though.
Like, just the sweetest guy and, like,
Kant was like, I really liked the way you run the set.
Like, just a lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely,
lovely dude.
But giving him any direction was, I mean,
nerve ragged.
Just feel you star struck the entire time.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was, but he couldn't have been kinder.
He was like, he very much is like,
you guys just tell me what you need, you know?
And of course, like,
uh, ha, ha, um,
I'm, do the thing that you do.
Just do what you do, Mr. Cronenberg.
And he's like, I will haunt your dreams.
Yes, of course, I will haunt your dreams.
You know how many different ways I can have sex with surgery?
I think about it all day.
Organs and blood and organs.
Now, we had a little technical difficulty, and we loosely talked about this,
but I want to bring it back around.
We love that you're doing all this action stuff,
and you're bringing action to the horror movies.
And of course, you cast Sarah Michelle Geller.
Like, who better to, like, fucking do a bunch of action scenes than Buffy?
Was that, I mean, we haven't seen her in a while.
Was that what are your ideas?
Was that the casting move?
Like, who was this?
This is great.
My wife was so happy.
Well, Sarah was a, she raised her hand.
It was, and it was late in the process.
We had been trying to cast that role.
and I feel like it was like two weeks out.
Does that sound right, Tyler?
Yeah, it was too close.
We were like, oh, my God, how are we going to shoot this?
We had a lot of another story, but Samara's back was basically broken leading up to shooting,
and we didn't have either of the brother's sister rules cast.
And so it was like, oh, my God, how are we going to start this movie in two weeks?
And then we got so lucky that somehow Sarah heard about it and said I would be way into that.
And so we zoomed with her and she was on a plane like a week later and it couldn't have been cooler, couldn't have been like more just into everything and excited about it.
And one of her first notes was, though, that her character, before she had been cast, her character's weapon was a crossbow.
And she was like, this just might be a little too buffy.
Yeah, yeah.
Fair, fair, fair.
It's such a pro though.
I feel like we've had the chance to work with, you know, a few actors that have just been doing it since they were kids.
And I mean, it's insane to see somebody that's just that good at what they do.
They show up.
They like know exactly what the moment needs.
And you nudge you nudge here and there.
But for the most part, you just do a bunch of takes because you can't stop watching them be awesome.
And that was that was Sarah every single.
She's great.
Yeah, I did.
I was looking at the, you know, the cast for all your movies.
And I noticed, you know, you guys have worked with a lot of people who have done a ton of TV,
like people who were in, you know, for the OC for Friday Night Lights, friends, lost,
fucking Downton Abbey, you know, you got Matthew for fuck sake.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But do you notice, like, as a director, is there,
a difference between actors who have done like primarily TV and actors who have done like primarily
film?
That's a great question.
I do feel like actors always feel like they understand like the sort of run and gun pace
of things in a different way, right?
Like they're used to, I remember, I mean, talking to Sean on this one, he's like,
yeah, we show up on the set of the pit and we're like jamming through 12 pages a day.
And, you know, you land on a film set and, like, you're, you're lucky to get through five and a half without it feeling, you know, really, really pinched.
And so I think that there's, there's, they come into it with like an, like an energy.
There's a sort of like caged animal like, fuck, we got to like get out of the gate and run as fast as we can.
And I think it's always, it's always, they're always, they love to have time to give more.
And we've found that with, with all of, with all of the cast that has, has, has.
TV experience, they like show up super on book, super prepared because that's what TV demands of
them, right? That, that you just, you, you got to get it and move on. And you got to be locked in
and they don't like when you're slow. Yeah. Yeah. And because of that pace, like they get to do a lot
of different things, right? It's, he shows that, you know, like Buffy, for example, I mean, tons of action,
tons of emotional stuff. And so there's just a, I think there's a real, there's a real sort of like
school of work that comes out of that,
out of that process.
And it's also coming in with like a strong,
oh, sorry, I was going to say coming in with like a strong choice already made
because it's like I got to be there on take one.
Because I remember just to talk about Matthew Good for a second in Abigail.
I mean, he shot for half a day on that movie.
It was the last half of the day of the whole shoot.
And he comes in and he's like, you know,
I'm just going to kind of have fun with this and like really take some swings.
and we're like, that is the end of the movie.
Your fucking Dracula, just be as big and wild and weird as you want to be.
Like, we are here for it, you know.
I remember him coming up to us and like asking like, is it too much?
And he even asked Melissa, like, am I, is this, am I maybe, is this weird?
And she's like, no, no, no, the guys will tell you if you cross the line.
Yeah, yeah, they'll tell you.
It's always easy to give more.
You know what I mean?
It's easy to give more.
Well, I guess the difference between where you talked about television actors and film actors,
It looks like you guys are working on the new iteration of the mummy with Brendan Frazier.
Is he bringing back his character from the whale?
Top secret.
You were saying about applying old ideas to new things.
That's it.
That's how we're doing it.
Can you just imagine?
This isn't that mummy.
There's a brand new version of the mummy with that character.
Wow.
That's amazing.
But honestly, how is it going into this process of, obviously you did scream films?
This is a, like, you did a reboot of IP, you've done a couple other things.
This is big, this big time old school IP.
Yeah.
And they're bringing it like, how's that?
There's a ride based off of this fucking.
Yeah, dude.
Like, how do you, like, what do you have to do with that shit?
Like, do you have to go on the ride a lot?
Yeah, it's based on the ride.
The movie's actually based on the ride.
It's an adaptation.
Dude, my best part of that movie's going to be when it goes backwards.
The second half of the movie just rewinds.
Yeah, dude.
We sort of told ourselves after Scream, like,
ah, fuck, we're not going to.
We can't get involved in another, like, you know,
pre-existing franchise or something that we didn't originate.
And then, like, we started working with the writer Dave Cogashall.
And our pretty, our, like, dear friends are producing it,
the same dudes that we've been working with for, for many.
years. See, that's a dream.
Ready or not.
Yeah, and got the band back together.
And when we started breaking the story and hearing Dave, like, pitch on it, it was like,
fuck, man, it just, it's too, it's just too good to not, to not steer fully into it.
And it has remained that.
It's, it's, like, such a special, such a special script and to have the two of them
back for it, it's, it just feels really good.
It's one of those things.
Yeah, we've been doing this long enough to know that, like, that's ultimately the thing that you follow is that feeling.
And this one just feels, it just feels really fucking good.
Rachel Wise is coming back to?
Yeah.
Cheers.
Awesome.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
So is this, is it like a reboot with the same characters or is it like a continuation of the, you know, the old, the 90s movie movies?
It's, it's finding them now.
I mean, we, you know, we wanted to not overcomplicate anything.
We really wanted to be like, here they are.
It's been that many years.
This is what they're doing.
And here's their new adventure.
And making sure that, you know, I think for us, and again, we did this on screen,
we had to really focus on like, what is the thing that makes this special?
You know, like, what is it?
And how do we, you know, Tyler, you mentioned this earlier, how do we create the feeling
that we all had watching it back then?
It doesn't have to be the same thing.
It doesn't have to be like nostalgia overload or just like ripping it off.
But it has to create the same feeling.
And I think for us, when you watch that movie, then and now, Rachel and Brendan are that feeling.
You know, you're just like, oh, my God, they're so good.
I just want to be with them doing their thing.
And so that was kind of our, like, the headline going into this was this is about those two characters.
Let's have fun with it.
And the Brennan Frazier character has eaten himself into immobility into a wheelchair.
And he has to.
And then he's facing the struggles of being gay.
Yes.
Yes. He's the mummy.
It's the mummy.
It's the mummy pool of the coming.
This is all of this you can take.
Yeah.
We're going to get fired now, guys.
You got some monsters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My primary memory with this movie is having a really awkward movie date in high school.
What are you doing to erase that memory from my head?
We got to, we got to, we got to work that in somehow.
That's the, uh, I have a very funny.
story about it, but I'll tell you later, off camera.
Good.
Is the Tom Cruise version dead?
Is that just like, just not have nothing to do with this?
Yeah, this sort of resets
with those original
characters. All right. Yeah. And is
this just, is it a part of the
like universal monsters
universe?
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuck yeah. That's awesome.
Congrats. Fuck yeah.
man, it's going to go in the amusement park, dude.
You're going to be the new mummy ride, man.
Yeah.
Fucking have it go upside down.
Yeah, we're going to scare up the shit out of you.
No.
No, what's it like to be a part of like the, arguably, like, the greatest horror movie tradition in history?
I mean, it's unreal.
Like, honestly, we, we text each other about it all the time.
It's like, just like, like, like, a random text that, like, midnight.
Like, holy shit, we're making a mummy movie.
Like, how is that real life?
that's fucking crazy.
You also kind of have to forget about that because you, you know, again, you like don't want to,
you don't want to be hanging on to that too tightly.
I think you feel, I think you can feel that in the wrong way.
And so it's finding out how to like express it in the right way.
And that's really just what you, what you challenge and what you, you know, what you, what you
revive.
And again, I just, we can't say enough about how stoked we are.
it feels, we feel so ready, like, just on a script level, we could, like, start shooting now,
you know, it's just a lot to build a movie of, of this size.
Well, let's just, I'll just have you know that the whole country will finally be excited
by a project when you reboot George of the Jungle.
And that's really not, unfortunately, until we're talking about that, I don't know where the
excitement's going to be.
I love the idea of just making a bunch of sequels, Brennan Fraser sequels, Airheads.
Bucyodome.
No.
He shows up as a Cino Man in Biodome, I believe.
Briefly.
Very, very briefly, he shows up as it's more of a Polly Shore vehicle.
And Ceynoman is now a fucking caveman lawyer.
Do you guys need Pauly Shore's info?
I can get it.
We can call Polly Shore for you.
We can give him your address.
Are you willing to?
to do an Encino Man reboot,
a horror Encino Man reboot?
Oh, the dream.
The dream.
I just watched it again.
It's so good.
Yeah.
We watched it like within the past like six months.
And I was like, this is a fucking great movie.
You ever seen that thing where they showed what Neanderthals would probably sound like,
where they go like,
ah!
The high voice.
That's what you got to do.
You reboot Encino Man with a real Neanderthal and they dig out.
And it's just like,
it's like a screaming monkey thing.
We do the serious version of it.
Yes, but with the screaming high-pitched,
one, two, three, four.
Guys, this is awesome.
Yeah, I mean, is there anything you could tell us that?
Like, where are you at in the Mummy production?
Like, where are you, have you started shooting yet?
Have you got locations?
No.
We are scouting.
We went on a really amazing scout.
to Morocco just recently.
And so, I mean, we're at the beginning.
We're at the bottom of a very, you know, tall, tall mountain.
But we start prep in earnest in a couple months and probably, I think, shooting by end of the summer.
You're sweet little boys or living the dream.
I heard there's a lot of pyramids in Egypt.
Guys, I know you went to Morocco, but you should try Egypt.
Think about it.
You know, I mean, it just seems logical to me.
It does seem logical.
Have you thought about that?
I want this Egypt.
I want this Egypt place.
Send me some links on Egypt.
It sounds like you guys really aren't doing this radio silence thing, right?
I think you need Ed.
Yeah, dude.
I think you need Ed in this.
You go to Morocco and you take a right.
Yeah, you really got to go.
You're just going around the top there.
You got to get past all the other bad guys.
You know, you've got your Boko Harums and your ISIS.
You just got to skip past them because that's bad for insurance.
a lot of those guys you can pay off
Ed you should run our production services department
I forgot so well ready or not to
coming out March 20th
go see it in the theater
seriously here you go
here I come it's going to be amazing
yeah it's such a great it's such a great
horror movie such a great action movie it's funny
it's if you love the first one you're going to love love love the second one and it just I just
I also have to ask like how much fun is it to take someone like Elijah would and be like you're
going to be the devil's lawyer extremely fun and like that was a character on the page too that
was you know it's a lot of exposition right it's a lot of like rules and talking and we emailed
Elijah and said, hey, this is super weird.
Very random.
And it's an interesting character.
He doesn't have a name.
He's the lawyer.
Would you have any interest in coming up to Toronto for a few months in doing this with us?
And we can send you the script.
And I think he emailed back like the next day.
I love it, guys.
I'm in.
And he just made that his own.
And I mean, and Avery, our costume designer, that costume he has is so, it just,
it all works together so well.
And I mean, Elijah's really like a lot of the magic trick of the movie, right?
because he has to tell you everything in a way that's entertaining when it's rules, rules, rules, rules.
Yeah.
And he's the devil's lawyer, which is the fucking lawyer.
He's a real G. Elijah Wood's a real, a real motherfucker.
Yeah, I like talking to him.
Yeah, he knows what's going on.
He also knows movies.
I think that's also one thing we're kind of seeing, too, is a lack of what you're talking about as actors that know what to do.
It's because they have a wonderful understanding of film and of watching film and of, I feel like that's one thing we're sort of missing.
And that's why it's more and more like, we got to go to the movie theaters.
We have to see these things.
We have to have a set of references that's not just saying Lubu-Boo, FCA twigs over and over again.
Yeah, and I think for us, it's like, how do you find people that are like Elijah to do the most absurd possible thing with the most, with the most seriousness?
Like with absolute commitment.
And that's him.
It's a good guy.
Fantastic. It's a wonderful movie.
And I forgive him for North.
Sure.
Guys, thank you all so much for joining us today.
We really appreciate it.
You guys, it was all.
Thank you, guys.
This is really, fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, this is very special to us.
