Last Podcast On The Left - Last Interview on the Left: Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett - Ready or Not 2: Here I Come

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

The boys sit down with the masterminds behind Radio Silence Productions - Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett, Directors of the explosive new dark comedy horror, Ready or Not 2: Here I Come in theat...ers TODAY - March 20th! For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 All right, today, we are joined by a directing team. We're joined by the directing team of Matt Bett Nettinelli Open and Tyler Gillette, the men behind Radio Silence. You've seen their movies. You've seen Ready or Not, You've seen Scream 5, Scream 6, Abigail, Devils 2, and you are going to see on March 20th their new movie, Ready or Not 2. We're here with the Radio Silence, boys. How you doing, Matt and Tyler?
Starting point is 00:00:32 Hey. Hey, yes. They're extremely excited to be here. I know we said this earlier, but like, my God, this is. Yeah, in the preamble. That's a preamble. Yes. So let's run it back, guys.
Starting point is 00:00:44 What makes you fans of us? How long you got? Where do we begin? Yeah, where to begin? You know, when we used to do our own shorts, I'm not even kidding, and we used to do shorts and we'd drive up to, like, Lone Pine, we would listen to your guys' episodes the whole, way.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. All the time. I can comfortably ask, because we talked about this. We want to keep this light. We want to keep this fun. But would you feel that your entrance into the major Hollywood system has given you information
Starting point is 00:01:14 that you're trying to disseminate through your pop culture films in a way that we would find entertaining and not frightening due to the truth of the information that you hold? Yes, they're warning. Yeah, we're just totally training the last. Interesting. You're going to get us killed. Are you excited that there's two of you. That way, if one of you mysteriously has a heart attack after this comes out,
Starting point is 00:01:42 they can't do it to both of you. Yes, the radio silence legacy will continue on. It's a long game. We've been planning. If there was a way for the government to leave your bodies, how would you want that? Like, honestly, how would you choose the government to kill you both? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I want to be found. like a fountain at a shopping mall, like a busy shopping. Okay. I think would be great. No, we can make that happen. Yeah, no problem. Oh, we can have you, you can fall through the skylight to make sure that it's like, at the busiest time of the holiday season, you fall through the skylight
Starting point is 00:02:18 and into... Impaled into the middle of fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, a little girl must scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matt, how do you want to die? I have to go of it. Maybe that one. Yeah, by the government, by the government.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, boy, geez. Could it be one of those things where it's like there's a bunch of versions of it? So there's a bunch of conspiracy theories. I hope so. And it becomes one of those, is he dead things? You're poisoned. You're shot. You're hung by the, you're hung from the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:02:47 You're electrocuted. Yeah. Yes. In like different countries. And so there's a bunch of mystery. His suicide note was just the letter, why? Yes. Just know, I will make sure.
Starting point is 00:03:00 up. I will make sure your penis is preserved in formaldehyde for the rest of time. I didn't want to ask, but... The Moody Museum's already on the line. It's great. We're going to have it there for you. They're desperate for cock. So let me ask you
Starting point is 00:03:16 guys, why do you hate the rich so much? Because obviously, I'm looking at your home. I don't know. It's weird. You ain't it. Yeah, on the desperate. Desperate climb to reach that. It's very odd
Starting point is 00:03:32 how critical we are up there, right? Yeah, but I mean, because, you know, the Ready or Not films, like, both of them are definitely like criticisms on the rich and how they play with the, I mean, we're doing a series on the, like, we're working on a series on the DePontz right now.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And, you know, the DePont Foxcatcher murder was very much just a man playing with the lives of those that they see below them. Like, what is it about that with Ready or Not films that you guys wanted to bring to the forefront. Abigail, too. And Abigail as well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, Abigail is a lot of it. I think it's something that it just, I mean, it's unfortunately just a truism. It's just, it's an evergreen truth that the rich will take advantage of everybody else, right? At the end of the day. Yeah. And I think. Yeah, and that a long enough timeline, if you've achieved that level of success, there's no way that you've avoided. exploiting somebody or something on the path to that.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's just not, that's just how the world operates, unfortunately. Yeah. So you have no grace for good billionaires. Who are the good billionaires? Are there good billionaires? Do you not have any empathy for billionaires? Do you think of how much pressure it is? The ones that give it all away.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah, the ones that give it all away. I mean, come on. Did you see how concerned Bill Gates was? about his wife's STA. He was super good. I saw that. I don't. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But how much money has McKinsey Scott given away now? What's the current? That's the running. I think seven. Yeah, the running tally. She must have so much fun throwing his money into every single place. But like, she must, that must be a flat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 This is, this is one billion to keep men bald. This is what? The anti-viatican donations. Has the last podcast got any of that McKinsey Scott Doe? Has she kicked any of it your way, guys? We haven't, have we? Obviously, you could see I had my tith enhanced. Avi, all of this body is reconstructed.
Starting point is 00:05:48 This is no way. No one would choose this naturally. This doesn't happen naturally. Yeah. It is interesting to see in horror movies how it mirrors society. a lot of times. And I feel like you guys are really hitting that nail on the head. Did you grow up wealthy?
Starting point is 00:06:07 How do you know so much about these societies? You know, it's funny. I actually had a brush with it when I was a teenager. One of my really good friends who I was in a band with for a lot of years was Daniel Steelson. And it was a very funny. I was like in a punk man, just a much of scrappy kids. And then our singer was Daniel Steelson.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And, you know, and he was a lovely, wonderful. person who was like one of my best friends. And, but it was a weird toe dip into, I live in Oakland. I'm up in my parents' house actually right now. And he lived in San Francisco. And it was a weird toe dip into this entire other world that, you know, I don't think most of us are familiar with. Daniel Steele, the author?
Starting point is 00:06:50 The author. Yeah. Do you think that? Yeah. Her son was this guy, Nick. And he was, he was wonderful. And he, but, but, but, and he was really complicated, right? It was really complicated.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. with his wealth and yeah we didn't know that he was her he he joined a band I we were kids I mean we were like teenagers and he joined the band I think we were like maybe 16 or something and it was at least probably I mean it felt like forever as a kid but it was probably like six months before we even knew that his mom was Daniel Steele but there were like weird tells where like someone would drop him off at practice and there was like a car phone this is like in the 90s yeah it was like what you have a car phone Do you feel like it gave him extra room? Does just be something extra and something special that it was harder for somebody like you?
Starting point is 00:07:39 What's weird? I mean, again, I could go on about this forever because he's probably one of the most charismatic, talented people I ever knew. And he had this, and he had this like real, there's a duality that was obvious all the time, where he was, he had this life that was different than the life. that we all kind of lived with him. I mean, we just did it like normal, like in a van with a bunch of guys sleeping on floors. And then he'd come home and he had a different life. And it was, it's like we were saying a second ago, he was always very conflicted about it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And it was, and he was kind of embarrassed in the way that a teenager is embarrassed about anything that they're not comfortable with around their friends. Yeah, I don't know if that answers the question. But yeah, it was weird. I'm just going down memory line now. No, no, this is a, and this is a great, actually a great no dogs in space moment where we get to have that little trivia of the lead singer of Link. 80 was Daniel still steal son.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That's incredible. I didn't know that because yeah, you guys were the, y'all were the first band signed to Asian Man Records, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You got a little bit of punk pass. So like in that, what, like, have you ever thought about like using that punk pass to kind to kind of make a like green room style like punk horror movie? I mean, we've talked about it a lot, right? Tyler, like there's been a lot of, yeah. Yeah, it's such a fucking rad subculture and a world to live in, especially in the 90s. It was so, like, special. And at least it felt like that to me at the time.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And, but you're always, the entire experience is you're going to like the worst places with like the scariest people who you've never met before. And then you're like, let's play songs and run into each other and jump on each other for a few hours. And then go to somebody's random house in the backwood somewhere to do. whatever shit we're going to get into. Every turn in that feels like there's an on-ramp to some great movie. Yeah. Yeah. But that sort of band past, I mean, that's very much built into, like, just how, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:38 the two of us work. Like, it's, you know, we were a band of five when we started out, and, and now we're just a sort of shitty old duet, but like the idea of just, like, you know, like, writing it out with the buzz. Normally, they start as a hot duet, and then all of a sudden there's, like, a horrid. section. We started with the Lauren section and now we're down to
Starting point is 00:10:01 like some ukuleleys. Yeah. But that's how we run everything, you know? Like we're just, we show up on set and we want everyone to just play their instrument as loud as possible. And I mean, it's we, it's very, very similar in, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:16 in its process to just play in with your buds. Yeah. Do you ever look at directors who direct movies alone and think that they're chumps who work too hard? Dude. Yes. We have buds. I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:28 so many friends, like, they're just on an island alone with their anxiety. Fuck that. We, our buds who are directors, we talk to them about it,
Starting point is 00:10:37 and there's a, there's a very consistent from everything like, oh, wait, one of you can just go, like, to the bathroom during the day
Starting point is 00:10:45 without the entire crew knowing. Without, like, I got eyes on, I got eyes on Tyler. He's going into the bathroom. It's just a, hey, man,
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'll be right. right back. To the moment to moment thing of like, hey, this isn't working. How do we get through this? And it's so nice to not be stuck in some world where you have to believe you have all the answers and they have to be perfect to have that relationship where we can just be like, I don't think this is working. What do we do? And in the moment, you know, like a sport or like a band, just kind of get through it together. It makes all the difference. And it probably also helped to spread the success and failure to two. You know what I mean? Like it can't be. It can't be. Because I'm certain that you woke away, and you have a massive success. One of you walks away and was like, thank God he has me. You know, like, one of our favorite things to do is to go on Amazon and read, like, for something that we've made and read the worst reviews. That's no fun to do by yourself. It's only fun if you can, like, screen grab it and send it to, send a deer with your friend.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Is there one that, like, really stands out in your mind that, like, actually that was very clever? Oh, shit. I mean, we can pull some up and read it. you know, Windor. Don't give them any fucking credit. Don't fucking give them an inch. You guys ever commiserate with the Felipeo brothers?
Starting point is 00:12:04 Do you know them at all? You ever talk about being directing duos? No, we never, yeah, I haven't met them. It's actually, it's a small group of people when the DJ
Starting point is 00:12:14 occasionally puts on these events and all the co-directors end up sitting at the same table. And it's a small, it's a small. It's the kids table. It's the outcast table. Yeah. And we're all,
Starting point is 00:12:25 down on by the rest of the DGA. And it's like, like, Phil and, you know, Phil Lord and Chris Miller. I mean, like, good, like, great people, great directors, but we're all, we're all the stepkids. Do you think that's what happened to the Cohen brothers is they were so sick at that fucking table? Yeah, they were never at our table, weirdly enough. Can we get them at separate tables just to get them back together?
Starting point is 00:12:52 We, uh, they, they do, the, the president. the DGA one year did come up to us at our table. And I remember it was like Akiva and Yorma from Lonely Island and us. And I think Chris and Phil, but they were just, they straight up said, so it's like a half a brain each. How does this work? Why do you need each other? We're both going to attack you. That's how we're watching. Yeah, totally. I'm like that. The other's attacking from behind. I actually, I have a technical question. I, I, because ready or not, Abigail, these are, a lot of it has really, really intense, awesome action pieces, which I think are probably the hardest thing in, like, stunt action things are probably one of the hardest things you shoot, right,
Starting point is 00:13:36 when you're going through this. When you are building these things out, how specific are you in the script versus it changing as you go on the day? Like, all of the things that Samara Weaving goes through and ready or not, is all of that fully scripted, or are you also playing things by ear and changing things as you go? It's always pretty loose. I mean, I think you have to have a, you know, somewhat of a blueprint. There has to be some specificity so you can design the set and, you know, get every, all of the ingredients for the sequence have to sort of show up. And so that, that has to be present in the script.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But with ready or not, too, I mean, we were, we were moving so fast and flying so by the seat of our pants with the sequel that we knew, you know, the sort of broad strokes of how the thing was going to start and like what, how it had to conclude and what that had to sort of mean emotionally for the characters. But within that, if you've got a great stunt team that is really good at improvising, I mean, it's like watching any sort of great, you know, performer improvised. They, you sort of look at the set and what you have and, oh, we've got these things are all break away. And, and the brainstorm in the, you know, in the moment of, well, shit, let's throw this person through this. And it's, it's one of the most fun things because it is, it is so alive. And I mean, the only big stunt things that have to ever feel for us anyway are like super, super planned and rehearsed are the things where you're like pulling people up into the sky and, you know, wirework, things that require real rigging and, and there's real danger. You know, you just have to premeditate all of that. But the fight stuff, man, And it's, it's really fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And by the way, to throw at a cast member, like, hey, we know you rehearsed this. What if we do this? It's amazing to see how, you know, most of the fighting in our movies, it's not like John Wick shit. You're watching people like in a bar fight, basically. That's the kind of action that we, that we love. And that stuff, like, it lends itself to this very improvisational kind of style. But it is the hard stuff to shoot, man. Samar Weaving's a fucking star, and she's also one of those people.
Starting point is 00:15:47 she sells the physical acting of abuse because like normally you got these like skinny leading ladies they don't look like they can't kill people they can't kill fucking people. Samara I believe can kill people. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you know that she had that like her guttural primal scream is one of the best in the business.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Did you know that she could do that before you got her on set? No, we had no clue. When she did that the first time, I remember her speed. It was very early because we shot the end of the first writing or not first. It was all in the first week. And when she did her, she like rolls off the table and does like, oh, ah, screams. And that was the first time we heard it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And it was like, oh, my God. Yeah, everybody on set was like. Yeah. And then when we went into this movie to the sequel, we definitely, that was a thing. We were like, where is the right moment for this? and we found a really good one that we were like, oh yeah, that's when this has to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Because you can't overuse it. You can't make it. You have to save it. You have to be like, you're waiting for this. It's like when you're waiting for like that special part of a song. But Sam's a unicorn. I think one of her superpowers is like she is one of the most beautiful human beings you'll ever see. But there's zero vanity in the way that she approaches like every moment of her life.
Starting point is 00:17:12 She's so gross and silly and isn't afraid to like, fuck up and be weird and you know there's there's she's fearless and and you need that for for that character very specifically. You're saying she's so in other words she's Australian. Yeah. Yeah totally.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I remember I met Margo Robbie and she was like that she'd like burp and spit and then go like sorry that mate like do that and you're like I'm mesmerized you're literally you can do anything you can do anything I love you with anything you want it's the best.
Starting point is 00:17:47 There's actually a moment in Ready Your Not 2 where Sam was like, I want to spit at the end of this. Is that cool? We're like, absolutely. Please do. We'll talk a big luggy. Yeah, Ready or Not Too? It's, like, we got to see it. It's such an incredibly fun movie.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, it's a lot of fun, man. It's such a great time. It's so much fun, just as good as the first one. But, like, I mean, you guys, like, one of the things that I love about y'all's movies is that your sense of pacing is so fucking good. Like, you really know how to pace a movie. So, like, when you approach a movie, like, as directors, do you all see yourselves as, like, primarily, like, horror directors or action directors?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Because y'all are just action. You're so fucking good at it. Thanks, man. Yeah, thank you. I mean, I, you know, it's like, we never, like, think about it too specifically. Because I think the way we came up, it's like, like, we both, like raised on Twilight Zone. You know, like, that was, like, the touchstone that started everything. thing for us. And so it was sort of like we love genre stuff. We love sci-fi, we love horror,
Starting point is 00:18:51 we love action, we love adventure. And so like when we first started working together, a lot of our stuff would kind of dip into, like one little 10-minute short would be sci-fi, horror, and adventure all kind of mixed up together. And I think we'd just take in that with us because it's like we feel weird when something's not edging towards scary. We feel weird when something's not edging towards scary. We feel weird when something's not edging towards action. And we also feel weird when it's like lacking emotion, because that's kind of what we always tie everything together with, is how do you get, you know, someone like Samara at the center of this
Starting point is 00:19:24 that can kind of ground all of the action, all of the horror, all of the emotion, and make it feel like it's cohesive in one thing is always sort of the goal. But it's a bit of we love it all and we get to play, you know, kind of for a living now, which is incredible. So it's this, how can we make this more actiony? How can we make this more scary? I mean, that's a conversation we have, I think, all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:50 It's like, let's lean harder this direction or that direction. Yeah, and it's so fun to, like, have a grab bag of tricks, right? Like, you don't, and tropes to play with. All of those little subgenres, they have little dials that you can turn at different moments. And so it just means you have so many tools at your disposal to, at the end of the day, like, surprise, surprise the audience. and that's the movies that we grew up on did that so effortlessly. And it feels like, you know, I mean, we could go on and on about how the business and distribution has changed and how niche things have become because of streaming.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like, we loved, like, you know, Terminator and aliens and, like, those movies that felt like they could do all of these things. And it all felt so effortless. And it was because, you know, these were big ideas that were being made for huge audiences, for everybody to see instead of just one person interested in, like, robots sitting on their couch, you know, in their, in their house. And that's the, we have a real muscle memory for, for those, for those types of movies and, and are really just trying to, like, replicate the feeling of that in the stuff that we make. Yeah, man, going to the theater
Starting point is 00:20:57 is fucking awesome. I love it so much. Your movie comes out on March 20th, correct? Ready or not yeah. Yeah, dude. So make sure you go out and see that movie in the theater. It's a big, fucking action movie, big horror movie, you guys are going to love it. I'm sure it's going to be amazing. But I got to ask about, like... Oh, I thought you were going to hardcore. We were talking about Gaza now, right? You're now
Starting point is 00:21:20 it's a hardcore. You give them the flop. You set them up with the night. Actually, yes. Not Gaza. But I am I'm excited. When you see this, because obviously we all want the movie theaters to survive. I go to the movies at least once a week.
Starting point is 00:21:36 We want everything to be great. Now, when everything that's going on in the news right now with the files coming out, are you looking at this and be like, we can't buy this type of publicity? I will say, shocking and disappointing how topical the movies that we make have become. And sad how unsurprising it is. Yeah. But the weird thing that we saw bubble up when they released the new trailer was that this is Holly Weird conditioning people to be. Henry, I believe you were circling this at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Conditioning people to be used to the idea. I'm sorry. I believe I just said it out right. Do the Lodomis family represent any particular family? Do you have an inspiration? Oh, man. you are really trying to make a step in it. No, I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:22:37 all the families. You're just laying, fucking traps. I think we know. But it's the fun of, like, living in this sort of heightened world of these billionaires, is it feels like you can, you can sort of be broad and specific at the same time. And, you know, it also, I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:58 it's fun to, like, look at a class that is so out of reach for for everyone that isn't in it, that you can just, you can dream up the wackiest thing and it's probably not that wacky. And I think that was really the compass, like the sort of guiding light for us on both of these movies was,
Starting point is 00:23:21 well, fuck, we don't know. Like, what's the craziest rich people shit you can, you could think of? And, yeah, just bummed that some of it is, It's real. Some of it's real. Yeah. When you go into these executives offices,
Starting point is 00:23:38 this is one of my favorite phenomena in this whole new awareness that we're getting as a country right now, I guess, which is you get to go into these very, very powerful people's rooms, the most elite of the entertainment industry, and you pitch these things, what are the looks on their faces?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Like when you say, like, so this is when they systematically murder all of the rich people. And are they just sitting there just going like, ha ha ha, ha, ha, that is simply fantasy. Like, what a wonderful trip down to dream world that cannot happen. Like, do you think that, like, how do they react in those rooms, like, and being in that world? I am actually, I think we're surprised at how much everybody's always into it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It always feels like. Yeah. I think there's enough self-awareness, yeah, and a willingness to kind of, to hold up a mirror because they better I mean I felt that way when I watched the the hunt that came out recently and like how it showed like
Starting point is 00:24:40 bloodthirsty Democrats and you know I was like this is a lot of fun sure I had a great time with this you know and so I'm enjoying this but you guys really not only do you focus on the rich
Starting point is 00:24:49 you focus on Satan yes and and so Satan is a big part of your thing and Satanism are are you all Satanness do you dabble? I was raised Catholic.
Starting point is 00:25:04 You're halfway there, buddy. You're halfway there, buddy. I was raised Catholic too, man. You're halfway there. Don't notice that I didn't, don't think that I didn't notice that you slipped the satanic version of hallelujah and ready or not.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I heard it. I was going to ask, what did you guys pick up on? This one, and there's a lot of in this, it was funny, there was a lot of conversations when we were going,
Starting point is 00:25:29 you know, going in like free production where we went back and we looked at there's this thing that the studios do where they do a toe dip with uh critics and so before the movies even finished they show like a dozen critics and then they tell you how shitty your movie is it's the worst and they tell you how it's shitty and then you're just kind of bum for a few weeks and so you totally forget about it which is happened on both of these movies and we went back when we were making this and looked at what the critics said about the first movie and like the number one headline was all the Satan stuff is awful and horrible and needs to go.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Maybe don't say Satan someone. What? Yeah. And then, and it was quite, it was, for us, we were like, well, they're going to hate this next one because they're going to go to bad. So much harder. It goes so fucking hard with the Satanism. And I love that. That's what I love so much about because I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like some of my favorite horror movies are the. 70s Hammer Horror films that really dig into the set like the Satanism like was this movie like ready or not to was it inspired by movies like you know devil's reign to the devil a daughter like where there's these cabals
Starting point is 00:26:43 lurking in the background I mean all of it we talked a lot about and I think it maybe had to do with having come off of Abigail because we talked a lot about like the Christopher Lee stuff where it's just so gothic and it's so there's such a vibe
Starting point is 00:26:59 And our thing on this was the Lodomis's in the first one are like low rent amateur versions of Satanist, kind of like pretending because maybe they saw a movie once and they put on a stupid fucking robe. And so with this one, we were like- Well, he even says it in the movie. In the first one, he's like, oh, it was the 80s. It was like the first thing he talks about. They're playing make-believe. It's like when you hear like how the mob watched the godfather and we're like, oh, we're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's our new thing. Yeah. And then for this one, we were like, Yeah, but what if these guys are good at it? Like, what if they're, they've got a cool temple and they've got the real robes and they, like, got the real goat pit and all this kind of fun stuff. So we, it's kind of a spoiler. Sorry, I didn't realize I was dipping into that. But audiences got to know.
Starting point is 00:27:45 No, I think that brings them in. I think it brings them in. I think they're going to like that their, our audience is going to like that there's more Satan. They're going to lie. Like, I mean, you use the words goat pit in relation to a movie. our audience is going to go see it. Yeah, that's actually like a good thing for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I like when sequels, but honestly, I like when sequels expand versus like, let's just do the whole thing again. Yeah, I love it. No, no, the world building in this was like so much fun. Like you really expand it because it's a direct sequel. I mean, it begins where the first movie ends. So, like, was there, was there any, like, challenges to doing a direct sequel to a movie? I think the big thing for us was just knowing that over seven to seven years since we made the first one that it somehow like magically found a fandom that we wanted to deliver something that felt satisfying and obviously in the world of the first movie without being overly precious about it. All of our favorite sequels, you know, like T2 and aliens, like they take they take the DNA of what's great about the first movie and, and,
Starting point is 00:28:56 they they apply it to something new and and fresh and surprising and ultimately like those movies whether you see the first or not like you're just you can be such a fan of and enjoy and enjoy them as a singular experience and I think for us that the the pressure was just how do we make something and not be afraid to in some ways like maybe shit on the first movie a little bit and not be like overly like overly cautious and and not try to be like too in a nostalgic about what it is, but to maybe challenge ourselves and challenge the audience's notion of what the movie could be. And that was just, it was fun, but there was a lot of pressure in it, too, because you, you
Starting point is 00:29:40 obviously want to deliver something that people, you know, that people love and enjoy in the same way as, you know, as the first movie. The first movie felt really effortless. I feel like that's what's so beautiful about that movie is the reason why it found its audience is because it is wholly its own. and it like it's it feels real
Starting point is 00:30:00 it feels awesome I love their reactions the family's reactions and they're so fucking funny and I guess that's also what works about it is that it's funny scary bloody
Starting point is 00:30:10 yeah totally and I think that like so much is like and what we were sort of talking about like the Satanist stuff that we love the idea of a modern
Starting point is 00:30:17 the modern interpretation of something like really ancient and full of tradition and how just bastardized that has become and by I feel like that happens with all old institutions.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And we just, we love that you have people with all of like trappings of modern life, like still trying to like hold on to something that has its roots in a time and a mythology that are maybe like not even understandable. There's, it's so old and so, you know, so uncanny and strange. And that to us is like where all of that fun lives. Like people like not knowing if the fucking devil exists. Like all of that's just. just so, it's just so sticky and, and fun.
Starting point is 00:30:59 How important was it to you that you be incredibly accurate about Satanism? Were you? I don't even know personally, to be honest. Unfortunately, no, but I love you both. I would love to know everything that we got wrong and how we, that we did. We had like a, there's a whole, like Elijah does a whole, um, chant or speech or, you know, I don't know what you, a sermon.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah. And you can kind of hear at the beginning of it for, and, and that was one that we, Ryan, Ryan, one of the writers, guy in Ryan are the writers. And Ryan, he's big into this stuff. And he was like, I'm going to get you guys a nice, long thing. So he wrote us out and it was funny. We did an ADR. And Elijah Wood was like, okay, so I'm just reading this. I hope I'm not like, this is not some incantation.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like, what is this entire paragraph? No, it's easy to write stuff that sounds like it. You know what's funny is that in my mind, when I look at those types of ritual sequences, whenever it throws to Satan, it's like I think it's good for the audience to understand because I think most people, the audience doesn't fully understand Satanism as a whole
Starting point is 00:32:15 and all that. Like, so it's like fine. But it's like to me, I always want to see a specific demon. That is like literally my actual, like, nitpick with every one of these, which is I want a specific demon and a specific ritual for a specific demon. Otherwise, I'm good to go.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Who is Belial? Belial's wanted Satan's guys. La Bale. Yeah, well, it's an anagram of Belial. Yeah, Belial, you got another name for Satan, Henry, right? No, he's one of the guys. He's a figure representing ultimate wickedness. I've just always think of, I've always,
Starting point is 00:32:54 He was like, oh, the guy in the basket. Yes. That's where I always go to. Because you know what it is, is that in Satanism, they replaced blood sacrifices with sex sacrifices. So the idea was that eventually Anton LeVay was trying to say, no, no, no, no, we don't sacrifice animals. We come. That's what the, to mimic the spurt of energy from the neck of an animal. Like, essentially, that's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And you are recreating the creative burst of life that is a flow of blood from a freshly open vein, but you are transmuting it with your powerful seed. Did you know your movie was about that? Yeah. And my question is, nah, is if for ready or not three, are you going to have people explode with cum instead of blood? Yes. And just have come explosions? I think you just unlock how we up the end here.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah. You know how they said that they pitched aliens where James Cameron went in the room and he wrote alien and then he wrote like a dollar sign after aliens? You just write ready or not three. Come. Yeah. Like underneath on the big day. Here we come. Because here the two is here I come.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Big square around. Here we come with a you. The come in the title is not accidental, guys. Otherwise, it was great. I think the Satanism was great. Yeah. Awesome. Fantastic.
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Starting point is 00:35:37 Speaking of the explosions, like, how much fun is it to make people explode on camera? Like, to do those, like, pops. Extremely. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fall. over the course of the many people we've exploded. The first movie was just a literal, like,
Starting point is 00:35:55 pyrotechnics in a plastic bag full of goo. And we've sort of moved on to safer, more reliable technology now. Our guys on this movie engineered this blood cannon that looks like a drone out of, you know, Star Wars. It has all these holes cut in the side and these kind of fins that stick out of it. And they hook it up to a big pneumatic, pneumatic tank and just like fire air through this thing. Fill it with blood and fire, pressurized air through it.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And it's, I mean, there really is like a feeling of excitement on set. Those events are the reason you show up, you know? It's like there's a countdown. And I mean, everything about it, it just feels so, so grand and exciting. And messy as hell, it's just, it's a blast. How hard is that to live in it? This level. You don't reset.
Starting point is 00:36:51 They're one and done. They are. It is. And then the rest of the day or week or however long it has to be there, the set is sticky and gross. Oh, for the rest of the time. But it's a vibe. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's, you know. I love that. That's great. What do you use? Caro syrup? Do you know? What's your blood? What's your blood mixed you?
Starting point is 00:37:12 We use the same mix on, on the last few movies. And it's, it's a mix. of caro syrup and then I you know they sort of thin it out for the blood canons because you want you want more projection and then the stuff that we use on the actors is just a more viscous because it you know it's it stretches better like you get the webbing and all of that you know that great effect that feels really cinematic and so you can kind of water it down you put
Starting point is 00:37:40 sometimes they put dish um dish detergent in it like dish soap yeah also help it not break break up So there are a bunch of little tricks of the trade, but it's... And then it helps clean easier, too. Nick's a few times. Yeah. One question, I had you on set, you had legendary director,
Starting point is 00:37:58 David Kronenberg as an actor. Now, when you're looking at this fucking guy, how do you tell him what to do? Like, what is he doing? How do you tell him what to do? Is he one of those where it's like, I dare you to direct me? Like, is it one of those?
Starting point is 00:38:16 I mean, he's the nicest fucking dude. He was, he was, that idea came about our casting director was, we were trying to find something. We had to cast it locally. And he was like, David Cronenberg is a Toronto native and might be into this. And we were like, oh my fucking God, that is the best idea we've ever heard. And he, it was literally one call and Cronenberg was like, yeah, I'm in. And you didn't have to push the script through like a membrane.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Like I thought that you'd have to. You'd have to push it through. open sphincter into like a goo. But he was so lovely, though. Like, just the sweetest guy and, like, Kant was like, I really liked the way you run the set. Like, just a lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely dude.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But giving him any direction was, I mean, nerve ragged. Just feel you star struck the entire time. Yeah. Yeah, it was, but he couldn't have been kinder. He was like, he very much is like, you guys just tell me what you need, you know? And of course, like,
Starting point is 00:39:15 uh, ha, ha, um, I'm, do the thing that you do. Just do what you do, Mr. Cronenberg. And he's like, I will haunt your dreams. Yes, of course, I will haunt your dreams. You know how many different ways I can have sex with surgery? I think about it all day. Organs and blood and organs.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Now, we had a little technical difficulty, and we loosely talked about this, but I want to bring it back around. We love that you're doing all this action stuff, and you're bringing action to the horror movies. And of course, you cast Sarah Michelle Geller. Like, who better to, like, fucking do a bunch of action scenes than Buffy? Was that, I mean, we haven't seen her in a while. Was that what are your ideas?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Was that the casting move? Like, who was this? This is great. My wife was so happy. Well, Sarah was a, she raised her hand. It was, and it was late in the process. We had been trying to cast that role. and I feel like it was like two weeks out.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Does that sound right, Tyler? Yeah, it was too close. We were like, oh, my God, how are we going to shoot this? We had a lot of another story, but Samara's back was basically broken leading up to shooting, and we didn't have either of the brother's sister rules cast. And so it was like, oh, my God, how are we going to start this movie in two weeks? And then we got so lucky that somehow Sarah heard about it and said I would be way into that. And so we zoomed with her and she was on a plane like a week later and it couldn't have been cooler, couldn't have been like more just into everything and excited about it.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And one of her first notes was, though, that her character, before she had been cast, her character's weapon was a crossbow. And she was like, this just might be a little too buffy. Yeah, yeah. Fair, fair, fair. It's such a pro though. I feel like we've had the chance to work with, you know, a few actors that have just been doing it since they were kids. And I mean, it's insane to see somebody that's just that good at what they do. They show up.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They like know exactly what the moment needs. And you nudge you nudge here and there. But for the most part, you just do a bunch of takes because you can't stop watching them be awesome. And that was that was Sarah every single. She's great. Yeah, I did. I was looking at the, you know, the cast for all your movies. And I noticed, you know, you guys have worked with a lot of people who have done a ton of TV,
Starting point is 00:41:51 like people who were in, you know, for the OC for Friday Night Lights, friends, lost, fucking Downton Abbey, you know, you got Matthew for fuck sake. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But do you notice, like, as a director, is there, a difference between actors who have done like primarily TV and actors who have done like primarily
Starting point is 00:42:14 film? That's a great question. I do feel like actors always feel like they understand like the sort of run and gun pace of things in a different way, right? Like they're used to, I remember, I mean, talking to Sean on this one, he's like, yeah, we show up on the set of the pit and we're like jamming through 12 pages a day. And, you know, you land on a film set and, like, you're, you're lucky to get through five and a half without it feeling, you know, really, really pinched. And so I think that there's, there's, they come into it with like an, like an energy.
Starting point is 00:42:52 There's a sort of like caged animal like, fuck, we got to like get out of the gate and run as fast as we can. And I think it's always, it's always, they're always, they love to have time to give more. And we've found that with, with all of, with all of the cast that has, has, has. TV experience, they like show up super on book, super prepared because that's what TV demands of them, right? That, that you just, you, you got to get it and move on. And you got to be locked in and they don't like when you're slow. Yeah. Yeah. And because of that pace, like they get to do a lot of different things, right? It's, he shows that, you know, like Buffy, for example, I mean, tons of action, tons of emotional stuff. And so there's just a, I think there's a real, there's a real sort of like
Starting point is 00:43:38 school of work that comes out of that, out of that process. And it's also coming in with like a strong, oh, sorry, I was going to say coming in with like a strong choice already made because it's like I got to be there on take one. Because I remember just to talk about Matthew Good for a second in Abigail. I mean, he shot for half a day on that movie. It was the last half of the day of the whole shoot.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And he comes in and he's like, you know, I'm just going to kind of have fun with this and like really take some swings. and we're like, that is the end of the movie. Your fucking Dracula, just be as big and wild and weird as you want to be. Like, we are here for it, you know. I remember him coming up to us and like asking like, is it too much? And he even asked Melissa, like, am I, is this, am I maybe, is this weird? And she's like, no, no, no, the guys will tell you if you cross the line.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah, yeah, they'll tell you. It's always easy to give more. You know what I mean? It's easy to give more. Well, I guess the difference between where you talked about television actors and film actors, It looks like you guys are working on the new iteration of the mummy with Brendan Frazier. Is he bringing back his character from the whale? Top secret.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You were saying about applying old ideas to new things. That's it. That's how we're doing it. Can you just imagine? This isn't that mummy. There's a brand new version of the mummy with that character. Wow. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:06 But honestly, how is it going into this process of, obviously you did scream films? This is a, like, you did a reboot of IP, you've done a couple other things. This is big, this big time old school IP. Yeah. And they're bringing it like, how's that? There's a ride based off of this fucking. Yeah, dude. Like, how do you, like, what do you have to do with that shit?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, do you have to go on the ride a lot? Yeah, it's based on the ride. The movie's actually based on the ride. It's an adaptation. Dude, my best part of that movie's going to be when it goes backwards. The second half of the movie just rewinds. Yeah, dude. We sort of told ourselves after Scream, like,
Starting point is 00:45:49 ah, fuck, we're not going to. We can't get involved in another, like, you know, pre-existing franchise or something that we didn't originate. And then, like, we started working with the writer Dave Cogashall. And our pretty, our, like, dear friends are producing it, the same dudes that we've been working with for, for many. years. See, that's a dream. Ready or not.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, and got the band back together. And when we started breaking the story and hearing Dave, like, pitch on it, it was like, fuck, man, it just, it's too, it's just too good to not, to not steer fully into it. And it has remained that. It's, it's, like, such a special, such a special script and to have the two of them back for it, it's, it just feels really good. It's one of those things. Yeah, we've been doing this long enough to know that, like, that's ultimately the thing that you follow is that feeling.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And this one just feels, it just feels really fucking good. Rachel Wise is coming back to? Yeah. Cheers. Awesome. That's amazing. Yeah. So is this, is it like a reboot with the same characters or is it like a continuation of the, you know, the old, the 90s movie movies?
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's, it's finding them now. I mean, we, you know, we wanted to not overcomplicate anything. We really wanted to be like, here they are. It's been that many years. This is what they're doing. And here's their new adventure. And making sure that, you know, I think for us, and again, we did this on screen, we had to really focus on like, what is the thing that makes this special?
Starting point is 00:47:19 You know, like, what is it? And how do we, you know, Tyler, you mentioned this earlier, how do we create the feeling that we all had watching it back then? It doesn't have to be the same thing. It doesn't have to be like nostalgia overload or just like ripping it off. But it has to create the same feeling. And I think for us, when you watch that movie, then and now, Rachel and Brendan are that feeling. You know, you're just like, oh, my God, they're so good.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I just want to be with them doing their thing. And so that was kind of our, like, the headline going into this was this is about those two characters. Let's have fun with it. And the Brennan Frazier character has eaten himself into immobility into a wheelchair. And he has to. And then he's facing the struggles of being gay. Yes. Yes. He's the mummy.
Starting point is 00:48:04 It's the mummy. It's the mummy pool of the coming. This is all of this you can take. Yeah. We're going to get fired now, guys. You got some monsters. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:17 My primary memory with this movie is having a really awkward movie date in high school. What are you doing to erase that memory from my head? We got to, we got to, we got to work that in somehow. That's the, uh, I have a very funny. story about it, but I'll tell you later, off camera. Good. Is the Tom Cruise version dead? Is that just like, just not have nothing to do with this?
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, this sort of resets with those original characters. All right. Yeah. And is this just, is it a part of the like universal monsters universe? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Congrats. Fuck yeah. man, it's going to go in the amusement park, dude. You're going to be the new mummy ride, man. Yeah. Fucking have it go upside down. Yeah, we're going to scare up the shit out of you. No. No, what's it like to be a part of like the, arguably, like, the greatest horror movie tradition in history?
Starting point is 00:49:20 I mean, it's unreal. Like, honestly, we, we text each other about it all the time. It's like, just like, like, like, a random text that, like, midnight. Like, holy shit, we're making a mummy movie. Like, how is that real life? that's fucking crazy. You also kind of have to forget about that because you, you know, again, you like don't want to, you don't want to be hanging on to that too tightly.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I think you feel, I think you can feel that in the wrong way. And so it's finding out how to like express it in the right way. And that's really just what you, what you challenge and what you, you know, what you, what you revive. And again, I just, we can't say enough about how stoked we are. it feels, we feel so ready, like, just on a script level, we could, like, start shooting now, you know, it's just a lot to build a movie of, of this size. Well, let's just, I'll just have you know that the whole country will finally be excited
Starting point is 00:50:15 by a project when you reboot George of the Jungle. And that's really not, unfortunately, until we're talking about that, I don't know where the excitement's going to be. I love the idea of just making a bunch of sequels, Brennan Fraser sequels, Airheads. Bucyodome. No. He shows up as a Cino Man in Biodome, I believe. Briefly.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Very, very briefly, he shows up as it's more of a Polly Shore vehicle. And Ceynoman is now a fucking caveman lawyer. Do you guys need Pauly Shore's info? I can get it. We can call Polly Shore for you. We can give him your address. Are you willing to? to do an Encino Man reboot,
Starting point is 00:51:03 a horror Encino Man reboot? Oh, the dream. The dream. I just watched it again. It's so good. Yeah. We watched it like within the past like six months. And I was like, this is a fucking great movie.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You ever seen that thing where they showed what Neanderthals would probably sound like, where they go like, ah! The high voice. That's what you got to do. You reboot Encino Man with a real Neanderthal and they dig out. And it's just like, it's like a screaming monkey thing.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We do the serious version of it. Yes, but with the screaming high-pitched, one, two, three, four. Guys, this is awesome. Yeah, I mean, is there anything you could tell us that? Like, where are you at in the Mummy production? Like, where are you, have you started shooting yet? Have you got locations?
Starting point is 00:51:54 No. We are scouting. We went on a really amazing scout. to Morocco just recently. And so, I mean, we're at the beginning. We're at the bottom of a very, you know, tall, tall mountain. But we start prep in earnest in a couple months and probably, I think, shooting by end of the summer. You're sweet little boys or living the dream.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I heard there's a lot of pyramids in Egypt. Guys, I know you went to Morocco, but you should try Egypt. Think about it. You know, I mean, it just seems logical to me. It does seem logical. Have you thought about that? I want this Egypt. I want this Egypt place.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Send me some links on Egypt. It sounds like you guys really aren't doing this radio silence thing, right? I think you need Ed. Yeah, dude. I think you need Ed in this. You go to Morocco and you take a right. Yeah, you really got to go. You're just going around the top there.
Starting point is 00:52:50 You got to get past all the other bad guys. You know, you've got your Boko Harums and your ISIS. You just got to skip past them because that's bad for insurance. a lot of those guys you can pay off Ed you should run our production services department I forgot so well ready or not to coming out March 20th go see it in the theater
Starting point is 00:53:19 seriously here you go here I come it's going to be amazing yeah it's such a great it's such a great horror movie such a great action movie it's funny it's if you love the first one you're going to love love love the second one and it just I just I also have to ask like how much fun is it to take someone like Elijah would and be like you're going to be the devil's lawyer extremely fun and like that was a character on the page too that was you know it's a lot of exposition right it's a lot of like rules and talking and we emailed
Starting point is 00:53:53 Elijah and said, hey, this is super weird. Very random. And it's an interesting character. He doesn't have a name. He's the lawyer. Would you have any interest in coming up to Toronto for a few months in doing this with us? And we can send you the script. And I think he emailed back like the next day.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I love it, guys. I'm in. And he just made that his own. And I mean, and Avery, our costume designer, that costume he has is so, it just, it all works together so well. And I mean, Elijah's really like a lot of the magic trick of the movie, right? because he has to tell you everything in a way that's entertaining when it's rules, rules, rules, rules. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And he's the devil's lawyer, which is the fucking lawyer. He's a real G. Elijah Wood's a real, a real motherfucker. Yeah, I like talking to him. Yeah, he knows what's going on. He also knows movies. I think that's also one thing we're kind of seeing, too, is a lack of what you're talking about as actors that know what to do. It's because they have a wonderful understanding of film and of watching film and of, I feel like that's one thing we're sort of missing. And that's why it's more and more like, we got to go to the movie theaters.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We have to see these things. We have to have a set of references that's not just saying Lubu-Boo, FCA twigs over and over again. Yeah, and I think for us, it's like, how do you find people that are like Elijah to do the most absurd possible thing with the most, with the most seriousness? Like with absolute commitment. And that's him. It's a good guy. Fantastic. It's a wonderful movie. And I forgive him for North.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Sure. Guys, thank you all so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. You guys, it was all. Thank you, guys. This is really, fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah, this is very special to us.

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