Last Podcast On The Left - Late Night with the Devil: An Interview with David Dastmalchian

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

The boys sit down with actor and star of the new film Late Night with the Devil, David Dastmalchian - to discuss how his love of all things spooky made him one of the most recognizable faces in Hollywood...Late Night with the Devil in Theaters March 22nd!

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See, that's divisive. Miracle Whip's already divisive. Did you say Publix? Yeah, Publix. Publix grocery store? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm big Publix see that's divisive Did you say Publix yeah Publix grocery store Incredible I once left a script in a Grocery cart at a Publix like at like a locked secret script like because I was just reading it They printed it for me to read as I was prepping to go do this thing and I was in Atlanta And this is you know those things are given to you under threat of death.

Like you do not lose this. So I'm shopping into Publix and I really liked their deli section. The fried chicken, like Friday night meal. They would have great sides. And I was all excited about that. And I got some, a slice of like rainbow cake from the bakery.

And I treated myself to some yummy things. I was gonna take back to my hotel and I get back to the hotel and I lay out this really luxurious spread of grocery store fried chicken and mac and cheese and probably get in my underwear, flip open the laptop ready for a night of documentaries. And then all of a sudden I go, where's my script?

I need to... Oh my God. And it's like a top secret, like it's like one of those. And I ran like chariots of freaking fire. Like I just, I ran, I'll never forget the dread in my body thinking like someone's gonna, cause it has my name all over it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's got very crucial like plot details of things that would be like a Big big big big big problem. Yeah people will be mad Because people talk about that like the people finding scripts and trash cans and shit Like they pull it out of the and then all of a sudden it's all over the internet. Yeah, like a cache of Polaroids that I just happened to leave around. And then you gotta bring them? I didn't understand.

How else do you sleep? Yeah. If you would have left the script at Winn-Dixie, you'd have nothing to worry about because they can't read. Welcome to the last podcast on the left, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with Henry Zabrowski. Ed Larson.

Hello. And Henry, would you like to introduce today's guest now we have what I'd say I actually said this the other day the modern lawn Cheney guy the genre Lord Prince Right. I said the modern dick Cheney. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's for private Again, he had a lot of good ideas and he actually thought about the country Yeah, that's a good way to start

that just that just gave me a guest boner. The fact that you introduced me as Lon, like our Lonchi. This is David Dussmolchin. This is David Dussmolchin. Oh hi. Hi guys. I'm so excited. I am.

I'm so excited every time I think about the fact that we're friends now because having been so obsessed with the way that you guys have done what you've done and loved the show for so long. And then the fact that it was Eve's, like, passion and she kept being like, Dave, you have to get into last podcast. And I was like, I don't when I'm when I'm working or when I'm writing, I put on music, I don't listen to podcasts. I'm not really into the podcasting thing. Years ago. And she's just like, no, Dave, this is this is for you. This is great. And and and she and her best friend, Karen, were just like every time. And then I find I was like, you know what? Fine. Forget it.

I'll listen to these these these these chuckle heads and then yeah, and now I'm here. I'm so excited and Thank you for that introduction. It means a lot. I really appreciate it. I mean honestly going back through all of your work You're here technically to promote your new film late night with the devil which is going to be very very exciting for the people that are at home. Because we are the people who listen to our show. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the mill. I made it halfway through and then I shut it off

because I was like, I'm gonna see this in the theater, I'm gonna pay money to go see this. It looks unbelievable. That's like a great, great compliment. I've never heard that before. And you go like, God, because people will say like, I watched your thing and it was so awesome. But let's have someone say to you say like I watched your thing and it was so awesome

But let's have someone say to you. I was watching your thing and I stopped it. Yeah I can't do the laptop with the movies is this points me. I wanted either on this either because I have a big TV Humble bread. Oh, yeah That's what I want right actually, I think I can have a measure each other's I've measured by eyes. I was bigger. He does have the biggest television. I've been in your home Yes, you have have I been to your home. I don't know yet. I haven't been to your home. I've been outside of your house I've been invited over to your house into parties in your home. I've seen your TV. I've seen your vinyl collection Henry it it's begging for an invitation. No, you come over.

You guys have been to my house numerous times. Love it. You have the, again, there are people who don't know. Not a very big TV. But you, no, no, but you don't need one. You don't. You live in a very cool, spooky house. Now one of the things, my favorite thing about your house is your wall of like horror sound effects records.

Like it's just amazing. It's like you've got like a musical seance from Rosemary Brown, which is one of my favorite records ever. It's like this amazing compilation from this woman who said that she could channel the spirits of dead composers and she would write her own, like she was like, okay, this is what Beethoven wants me to write. And she would write some of the style of this is what Beethoven wants me to write and she would write some of the style of Beethoven is what Mozart wants me to write them write some and it came with like a full booklet and everything. It's yeah musical seance. That's when I was like, I like this guy.

I grew up in Kansas and I just this is so obsessed with all things horror once I got the bug, but then at our local Montgomery Ward, there was this vinyl record with a picture of Dracula on the cover and blood dripping down, and it said, like, the Monster Mash and sounds of Halloween or whatever, and I was like, what is this? I begged and begged and begged and begged, and it was a pretty religious household

where, like, Halloween was not celebrated. I was the one decorating the front yard and pissing off my parents because I made such a big deal out of it. And my father finally relented, which he rarely ever did. And he got me this record I brought at home. I put it right on the record player. I started listening to it and it scared me so, so bad

that I was crying and my mom was furious. My dad said, see, this is what happens. So then she had him take it back, get a refund, and they got me some bubblegum pop Halloween album of funny, goofy songs. It's a mummy time. And Pringles starts to stand. I also love those, those are great.

Yeah, those are amazing. But I eventually really regretted that, and now it's a lifetime obsession. I collect Halloween vinyl. And I'm so lucky I have the wife partner regretted that. And now I it's a lifetime obsession. I collect Halloween vinyl and it's it's I'm so lucky I have the the the the wife partner that I have in Eve that she would not only like proudly display her nerd ass husband's Halloween record collection, but that she'd frame them and and and you know, not them.

So we say that about Natalie about how like if you weren't in for this whole package, I don't know what you're in here for. You know, like, is it head scratcher sometimes? Yeah. It is goth turtles all the way down. You get into this home. I love those records. Just put them on and it's just, yeah.

And there's so many variations and hard to find ones. And I mean, and, and a lot of the actors that I love. Yeah, that one's shock that's just a bunch of screaming. Yeah. The actors that I love did a lot of cool shit on the side or these were great recording studios. It would come that time of year. It was a money thing that they could be like, oh, we're going to make a cool spooky record.

But like, oh my God, Boris Karloff speaks, Peter Laurie had his own. There was so many great ones. How have you not done this? We gotta do this. You need a spooky album. You heard it here first. I'll produce it. I'll be in on this. I would love to because it's like a couple scary stories and then like a just sound effects. Yeah, Marcus loves weird noises. That's most of what he listens to. Yeah. What's the spookiest noise? The spookiest sound that a person can hear. As a spooky sound collector. I think it is.

There's this one album that really messed me up as a kid, and it was on that same record that I told you guys about, and I think it was the moment that it turned for me. And it was a werewolf eating an infant. Whoa! Awesome! Dude, I think I heard that. Yeah, it's so messed up that they would put that on, and you hear the baby crying, and like getting, you hear the crunching of the bones and the flesh and I was just like

I'm not supposed to be it's like it's like it's like Werner Herzog, you know during a grizzly man It's like this is not something that I am supposed to be hearing This record, this record of this moment needs to be destroyed This sounds of Timothy Treadwell is like what I was hearing and it really messed me up man The suffering of children. Yeah. All right Edvel is like what I was hearing and it really messed me up man. The suffering of children. Yeah. All right.

I think I may have heard that at one point. Well I'll play it for you because I own it. That'd be wonderful. Just makes me hungry. And during the Halloween season it's fun because every night I try to put on a different record with the kids and they love it and we'll carve pumpkins or just listen to the old records. It's great. That's great. So that's so wholesome.

Yeah. So you came out. You know me. You came out the like the Chasm Spooky. Yeah. I's so wholesome. Yeah. So you came out. You know me. You came out the like the chasm spooky. Yeah I did. I did. I think I came out the chasm spooky and like inclined towards whatever reasons why.

Like it was always Halloween. It was always even the monsters on Scooby Doo. It was anytime there was a Halloween episode of anything I was just like that was the thing I loved the most and wanted. But that was compounded by being raised in a very religious household, it was a very conservative community where Halloween and anything to do with horror,

rock and roll, was considered opening yourself up to the dark side. And of course, I'm of a spirit that when you lock a door, the first thing I'm gonna do is look for the picks to grit in there. And then for me, the big, big, big impact was after school's rushing home to be watching cartoons. And they would have these stingers on Fox 41 in Kansas City in the 80s.

At the end of an episode of Transformers, it would be like, and tune in Friday night for Crematia Mortem's Friday Nightmare at 10 o'clock or 1030. And so I started like sneaking down and just getting lost in the world of the horror host Crematia Mortem, who then, you know, shows me all the ha— speaking of Hammer films, like all the Hammer stuff and Universal stuff and RKO things and all the weird obscured B and Z movies that I was just like, And it was that obsession that got you for for late night with the devil, right? Because the movie and this is not a joke.

This is not a mean thing. It's a, it's essentially a hyper serious repossessed. Sure. Exactly. You know, Repossessed. Which I love. Iious repossessed. Incredible. Which I love. I love repossessed.

But, because you built a host character, like a talk show host character, which is super funny and it feels lived in. But it kind of came from this kind of education as a kid with horror hosts. Sure, sure, sure, sure. So the horror hosting, actually, in a

more direct way, it's what got me the job because after my mom passed, I did a lot of reflecting upon, like, oh, why have I always been so obsessed with horror? It's the thing that kind of drove my mom crazy. But we did bond a few times. I remember once watching Psycho with her. She let me watch that and holding my hand when I was a kid because I got scared. And then I was thinking about that maternal

or paternal or whatever figure that Karen that takes you into the safely across the river who was the horror host, which for me was Cremacia and she was the first, a lot of things for me, like first crush, first impression of this like sexuality that I was really turned on by this first safe person that would make dumb jokes about, you know, whatever we were watching that night or whatever I was watching, you know, if it didn't matter,

she was the safe person for that. So I wrote this article. And for Frank Goury and Phil Nobeel Jr., who is the editor there had said, if you ever want to write something, let me know. And I was like, I feel like I've got an article that could be interesting. And I told him my pitch and he was like, go for it. So we wrote this article about horror hosts and that relationship that they can have with us. And then the guys, Colin and Cameron Karens, who live in Australia and are just horror nerds,

cinemaphiles, incredible, really talented, wonderful guys, they read Vangoria. And they read that article, and they were like, that's the guy we want. Which is weird, because when you who are listening see this movie, you're going to say, who in the fuck thought Dave Dasmolchin for this role? Because I know I fit into a certain target, I guess, when you think about the kinds of roles maybe that I normally approach or what people think of me as. I, a casting director producer would never have thought in looking at this script, you know who we got to get? Let's get that Des Malkeon guy on the phone.

Yeah, we got to get him. He's charming. Is it an insult to say that you're creepy? I'm creepy. I mean, I am embraced what I have and I am grateful for it. The way that I like to, I hope this doesn't sound like self whatever, it sounds really gross to compare yourself to people who are legends, but I guess I could say I aspire to heroes like Chris Lee and Vitzer Price and Lon Chaney, the ultimate hero to me because he just disappeared into the roles and genre, I just have no, my nose will never be lifted to anything in any space that's good storytelling. I would much rather do an incredibly well executed genre piece than a mediocre melodrama. Do you know what I mean?

And I, and I, when you're eventually in the Jerry Lee Lewis biopic. That's right Tiny Tim biopic Let's make that happen, you know about his haunting right I don't suppose you know how he died Yes, yeah Well, he didn't actually die because the legend is that Tiny Tim died during the performance on stage. He had a retirement home. It was at like some sort of like Masonic Lodge or something like that. It was a bunch of like ladies that wanted to do something nice booked him. The problem was actually that not enough people showed up so the show got cancelled.

And so he was just there in this Masonic Lodge and famously died there. And to this day he still it's you can still hear his voice. There's the sound. That's the scariest sound. But yeah supposedly he haunts the Masonic Lodge where he died. Well if I were to get the honor of playing Tiny Tims today once I was approached for a biopic this is a true true story, I'll send you guys the email that I got and you can post it,

it was to play Michael Jackson. Go get your own box. What? Ha ha ha! Amazing! Yeah. And the problem is that like, it's like, you know, you just see all the calls

from your people and you're just trying to sit here and figure out, like, is this what I wanna do? Is this what I wanna do? So I guess I'm, oh, I'm post Pepsi ad Michael I'm heal the world Michael yeah when you get emails like that can you ask like curiosity follow-up questions not knowing the literally all I said was let's do this and we are the world and then I said let me know and I never heard back from this it was a guy in Across the world somewhere. I've been you and Lee Lee and Landry I think was his name

I don't remember but I remember getting that email and being so touched. It was probably a DM I don't even know if it was an email, but it was like a very Like formal approach to like this is this is really something that we feel strongly that you would do well But I'm honored. I love the idea. I mean I'm come from a theater background and again formal approach to like, this is really something that we feel strongly that you would do well. But I'm honored, I love the idea. I mean, I come from a theater background, and again, I'm raised watching Lon Chaney and other actors that can quote unquote transform

whatever that means, because you're still bringing a lot of yourself and who you are as a person into each role that you're playing, and you're trying to bring all of your history and your dynamics physically and vocally. But I love this notion, this idea that you could be watching something and be like, that looks like that guy that was the crazy guy in The Dark Knight.

Or that looks like that guy that was on the Ant-Man movies. That can't be that guy because that's his voice or the way he laughs or the thing. All that is so, it's such a challenge that I love so much. So when Late Night with the Devil, when these guys, they were working with, they were working with Steven Schneider and Roy Lee, who own Spooky Pictures, and Roy Lee is this incredible longtime friend of mine who just sent me the script and their pitch deck,

and he said, hey, these guys would like for you to be in their film. And I thought, just as I occurred the log line, I was again going back to like, what about this guy, Dave Desmolchin, that we know and love, makes you think he's the guy to be a late night talk show host? Because late night talk show hosts are charming and they're fun.

You guys are talk show hosts. And you're charming and you're funny and you're sweet, but luckily you're mostly off camera. Yes, that's the idea. No, I think I just was baffled by it. And as soon as I started reading the script and looking at their materials, I was hooked. I was like, I gotta do this. And so then I just dove into, on a nightly basis,

watching hours of what I could scrap up on YouTube from Don Lane episodes to Carson monologues and Letterman monologues. That's great. And trying to manufacture this notion of like a guy who could do that. It's very weird. Cause it's a, in its entire separate skill set of performance.

It is, it is another type of performer because as a late night talk show host, you are have to be able to be broad, let people in. You're going into people's living room each night. So it's supposed to kind of feel like that somebody trust who's also like Improv like he's like fun in the moment, you know, but you do a great job of me I'm out one of my favorite pieces is the the montage of the previous episodes of all the dumb shit that has happened in all The seasons. Yeah What is the log like what's the concept behind this movie?

So Jack Delroy, who I'm playing, he was, it's 1970s, like literally 40th in the ratings when Carson was like at number three and his show is just on the chopping block and he's had the worst run you can imagine. His wife, his life partner, his soulmate passed away tragically of cancer. He's kind of maligned in the press as like the second rate, you know, and he's going to be canceled any day. And so I don't know what that's like. Canceled in the 70s is like a whole nother thing.

Yeah, it's a different kind of canceling, different kind of canceling. He's he's like he's he's coming up on it's Halloween night. He's he knows that that call is coming any second. And so it sweeps week, it sweeps week. And so he needs he needs a win. He needs the ratings to just skyrocket. And he throws everything he can possibly imagine at the stage that night,

and including some choices that are compromising to maybe his ethical compass, and compromising to what we would deem as like maybe, I guess ethical as opposed to moral, but like definitely some real questionable choices of what he's willing to put up there to try and get those eyeballs. And things go far more well than he could have ever imagined

as far as trying to create a night of shock television. And what is so wonderful about the way the script is constructed, and I hope people enjoy this as they fall into the mystery of it all, is under the immense pressure and the kind of fracturing of the nervous breakdown that he's having, coupled with his alcoholism, his perception just of ultimate reality is starting to become untethered.

And you're watching the show happen in real time. So it's a 90 minute movie. It's a foot, cause it's found footage. Yeah, it's just like you're watching an episode of the show. And so you've got, you know, good evening night owls and thanks again for being here. Wow, we had a big win this week with, you know, the Yankees, any fans in the house tonight?

Yeah, that was great. And he does a whole thing like that. And then we get these quick blips during commercial break where it's like, okay, we gotta get to what's going on. And then people are talking backstage and the energy is building and building and shit just goes bonkers, man. Great.

You know, it's cool. I actually think that the character wasn't wrong. I think that's solid producing. And I actually would love to have an actual demon in here. You know, we're gonna do what you do. Hi. We're gonna do an event in New York, and I was trying to get a real exorcist in

to come and be part of the... Convince these two, because I want to do seance in here. I don't want to do a seance in here. Let's do a seance somewhere else. I want to go to the Mystic Museum down in Burbank. I don't want to do a live seance. I seance somewhere else. I want to go to the Misse Museum down in Burbank. I don't want to do a live seance. I think that's a great idea.

I work here every day. I don't want to have to deal with bullshit from ghosts. Hey man, they're just, they have unfinished business and they need to be monetized on the podcast. I have deadlines. Before we became friends, I, one of my Halloween gatherings included a seance that was kind of breaking some of the rules of seance etiquette because it was a group of people around the table but then there was like another 80 people watching from above and from the side but it was just perfectly silent.

The energy in the room was insane. It was a pendulum style. So there was a pendulum from the roof of the house that came all the way down to the table and that with when she began leading the the the the event and the question started watching the way that it goes I'm sitting there being like there's I don't there's no way that anybody's touching this because I'm here and then at one point and people were doing what you guys did you fucking pussies they were like don't don't do this don't do this is a big mistake big mistake

and I'm like oh come on it can't be a bevvo so it's going and some question came up here was and we had candles up way up high in like the window sills that you had to get like on a ladder to put up and one fell on somebody's shoulder. The screams people ran out of the house. Some have never come back. Eve also tried to buy, she found on eBay, a supposedly cursed Ouija board. And that was the one where I did put my foot down a little bit. I was like, I feel like if it's already been deemed cursed, like what does that mean? Why would we want to buy that? I could hop the storage unit. Yeah, yeah, it is our unit.

It's like that my favorite show as a kid, which was Friday the 13th, the series, where you've got the like lock vault, where Uncle Jack kept all of the cursed items from his curiosity shop. That's what I want to get a storage unit, but it's in Glendale. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then when I die, no one will know about it, and they're gonna do that, like, what's it called? Where they break it? Storage Wars. Storage Wars. That didn't ruin your life? That's another movie man. That is literally another film. I love that. Haunted Storage Wars is amazing. Haunted Storage Wars is an unscripted series that we didn't know we needed. That's incredible. I got good advice on how to handle cursed objects that I could give you off air that they talk about like, cause that's my goal. That's like one of the things I'd like to move towards is getting some cause I have, we're supposed to get some in the

mail, but it's at the PO box. You would never be serious enough to do a seance. I know you because throughout the year, so many times he was always like, I really want to make this episode like spooky and like creepy. And I write it to like spooky and creepy and Then he comes in with some silly voice You can't like you can't fuck around the same what if you get Jackie Gleason He was very serious about alien he was yeah, I feel like I can talk with him about that. What am I? I'm reading something.

I was going to ask you guys, have you read American Cosmic yet? No. Okay, I just got it recommended. I figured you guys might know about it. I just started and I really liked it. Have you read 2083 Anders Breivik's Manifesto yet? No. I can send that in an email.

Thanks, I appreciate it. The new declaration of Norwegian independence. Love that. Fly from your grave. Can I ask you, so this is a kind of basic, very late night conversation because when we had you for our goth mandate, we couldn't talk about movies, we couldn't talk about any of this shit because of the strike. But I wanted to ask you like, first of all, just straight up, what was the moment that you like you could pay your bills being an actor? Hmm like when did it happen so I waiting and he needs to know I How do I get in there

So I go this is it's gonna be a long story, but you asked a question that I feel like needs like a backstory to it. I go to Chicago from Kansas to study theater at DePaul Theater School. I developed this raging addiction to opiates during college. So by the time I get out, I am fucking just strung out and life sucks for a good couple of years. I finally get clean five years into that. Congratulations.

Thank you, 22 years this year. I decide to go, I get invited by a friend to do a play, Storefront Theater, and a number of opportunities to do theater in Chicago that is free. So I was working as a telemarketer by day. I was doing, remember Time Life Books? Oh yeah.

I was a telemarketer for Time Life Books. So funny remember Time Life Books? Oh yeah. I was a telemarketer for Time Life Books. It's so funny. And at night I was an usher in a movie theater, Webster Place Cinema in Chicago. And I, back when they still had the unionized projectionist. So I would go and hang out with the union projectionist and smoke cigarettes and watch movies up in the booth. It was the best.

So I, I get back on stage and I got an opportunity, a casting director literally said this, he's like, oh my god I thought you died. Casting directors are great. Still here. And he brings me and I got a commercial. In 2006, it was when the transition happened for me. I got a commercial. I booked a commercial. It was a singular wireless commercial. It was when the transition happened for me. I got a commercial. I booked a commercial. It was a singular wireless commercial. It was my first time ever on a set like that. And it was me and my future father-in-law having a phone call where he says something like, I'm looking forward to being your father-in-law. And I say, well, thanks, Jim. Jimbo. Jimmy

crack corn and I don't care. And the call drops. And then he's laughing, but I hear silence. So I'm like, oh, sorry. That commercial was directed by the director of my favorite documentary. And so when I got that job, not only did I get paid a good, you know, like what do you get a couple grand to do a commercial, but Chris Smith, who made American movie, anyone who's listening that doesn't know American Movie, Coven, Coven sounds like oven, it's gonna be called Coven. So Chris, that commercial was a huge success. And I was able to transition into then doing theater full time, which was only paying like maybe 500 bucks a week.

And those are good theaters, but the commercial paid. So it was like, that was the moment when it went national and back in those days commercials paid a lot differently. It led into 2007, casting director for The Dark Knight came to town and held a big casting call for all the creeps and weirdos. And he was casting the opening sequence with the bank heist, with the clowns, and so that's what I was at a giant cattle call for, and his assistant, who's a lovely guy, saw me in the crowd, and he goes,

you're in that Jimbo commercial. And I go, yeah, and he goes, we were just talking about that, and he goes, hey, John, John Papcedaris, legendary cashmere, he goes, this is that guy. And he's like, oh yeah, you're really funny, and he kind of looks at my weird face, and he's like, are you ready for the scene? I was like yeah and he goes come on so he takes me in this room I do this scene which is a dummy scene yeah but it's a guy being like oh this guy whoever put me on this job I heard he dresses up

weird and he thinks he's gonna get this money blah blah yeah and he was like it was that is a moment man that like, all actors dream of, that lottery moment when like the ball landed on the number that I called, like it was my lifelong collecting comic books, dreaming of cinema, being such a fan and hoping and praying that someday I'd be able to go chase that dream. And he says to me, you're really good. He's like, you're, this is really good. Do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all this shit you're doing. It's, it's great, but you gotta put it

here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm pointing to my eyes for those who are listening. He says put it here. So I, and that note made sense to me. Because that's film acting, it's like, it's like, you know, it's just taking all that energy and like... It's a magnifying glass. And I'm coming from the stage, you know? So then I... Oh no, I came from years of being like, great, a little smaller. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went home and I did that. I tried to figure out what that meant, the shaking of the leg and the twitch with the thing and all this. How do I put that in my eyes? Came back the next day, just me. And there's Christopher Nolan sitting in a small room and he's got a little handheld camcorder and that happened.

And it wasn't all like, you know, wine and roses because that, you know, I was not making much money. I didn't have a good rate. I was just making scale and occasionally getting jobs. So there was lots of unemployment collection and just going on hundreds of auditions. But between, but I was, that was the last time I had like a day job. And I transitioned into then being a full-time actor. Although I would say years like 2010, 2011, 2012. If I was, you know,

there was years that I made, I mean, $27,000 one year, $33,000. The stocks just go up and down. Yeah, it's wild. But when you do stuff like, so do you feel like it's a thing of fate almost? Yes. That you ended up as like a genre actor? I feel like it's a confluence of a lot of things. Do we gravitate towards the stuff that razzes our berries? Certainly.

Do we move towards energetically and passionately the things that really inspire us? Were there times when I probably wasn't able to connect with material that I was auditioning for that wasn't stuff that spoke to me in a way that I could connect to stuff that did speak to me? And maybe a lifetime of studying and reading comic books and watching horror and sci-fi movies helped me understand that for me personally, the approach to genre was no different than it would be if I was doing Tennessee Williams or Shakespeare. I would just give a hundred percent in a way that you could get lost in the thing. So I think, but the fate that there's

that there's that thing. Like I just I know so many actors and I'm not being humble. It just, I know so many actors, and I'm not being humble, it's just I know so many actors who just are more versatile, more can repeat emotional states of being more, have the capacity to do work that is far superior than my own. So why did I happen to be at that place on that day? Why did that all stuff come together? Who fucking knows man? It's a it's a it's a total head scratcher. I just try to be well You were ready for the moment definitely was ready for the moment

I had I mean if there's a character that I would be like, okay, give me give me the five I can do this if you said like he's a joker's henchman, I'm going to do it. Yeah. Let's get the bed boss. That's my room. Did you love the show? The thought that when each villain had like his entire team had the matching outfits. Yeah. But when you, did you have any face time with Heath Ledger? Oh yeah, a lot in fact. I mean I worked on The Dark Knight I did like three or four days in Chicago.

There's the big parade sequence. That was a huge sequence. I mean there's thousands of extras and tons of actors. My first day on a film set, you've got to understand this, my first day on a film set, I have been told that they also gave dummy sides for the actual production. So I went to an office, signed away, whatever, got these sides that said, there he is, let's get him. I thought I was a driver in a truck. So I practiced for a week before every time I get my car back, let's get him, there he is, let's get him. Like that was the lines that I was ready to do. I show up, do my fitting the day, the night before shooting, and I'm in a cop uniform with a big bullet hole in the leg. And I was like, why am I in a police uniform? And they're like, he's very secretive. You'll see.

And I count work on the day of work. And it says, and one of the producers comes to my trailer, gives me the sides for the day, and he says, so this is actually the scene we're doing. You have been with the Joker pretending to be policemen, and then you're doing, you know, shooting at the mayor, trying to kill the mayor. And you get shot in the leg, and then you're going to be kidnapped. The first thing we shot was me in the back of the ambulance with Harvey Dent, Aaron Eckhart. And I look at the scene and it says, you know, he's asking me questions. It says, all it says about the thug is like an intimidating thug.

The thug smirks. And then he asked me another question and it just, the way it was on the page felt like the thug had the upper hand in like an intimidation way. Yeah. And as you said, like my therapist often says to me, when the student is ready, the teacher arrives. When the moment is ready, I was ready for this thing

because I'm looking at that going, I'm not more intimidating than, Aaron Eckhart's like that, big square jaw, like he's muscly, he's like, he could totally intimidate the crap out of me. What's more intimidating me trying to do it a tough-faced smirk? What if just giggled when somebody says like and I said and what if I can't? Formulate the thoughts that I'm trying to say what if interior is actually I'd love to help I'd love to be of service here But the only thing that's gonna come out of my mouth is just giggles because I've got some kind of condition

that's almost like someone put a filter over my my voice box and How terrifying would that be because you're working with a joke? Yeah And so that has to be part of the interview process of working for the Joker's that you would have Giggle you have to be a creepy guy. You have to be fairly intimidating without necessarily, because he's not a big guy. You know, the Joker is like, he's asymmetrical. Oh God, such an incredible, I mean, yeah, so that's what I did and luckily liked it

and then it just went from there and I just, I was so grateful. But was Heath in character the entire time? Heath was not in character. He was so grateful. But was Heath in character the entire time? Heath was not in character. He was so sweet. So I went in hair and makeup. My first day on a film set, I walk in hair and makeup. Heath Ledger's at the far end. He's playing, I don't know if they're taking turns DJing or what, but he was playing this

really cool music, which I didn't know and I'm a big music guy, so I was fascinated by like who is this that he's listening to. Next to him is Christian Bale. Next to him is Gary listening to. Next to him is Christian Bale. Next to him is Gary Oldman. Next to him is Aaron. I can feel the vomit like rising to my throat. Next to him is Aaron Eckhart. Then me, then Maggie Gyllenhaal, and then Nester Carbunnel.

All in this long ass hair and makeup trailer. Peter Rob King is overseeing and coming and doing touches up. Peter Rob King is the legendary makeup designer and artist who did Legend and Alien and Temple of Doom and all these movies. And everybody, I mean Heath totally like welcome shakes my hand very nice. Everybody was so cool. But with Heath in particular, because we had more time together, like I don't, I haven't held guns since I was a kid.

I always really didn't like guns. I grew up around guns where I lived as a kid, but they never were my thing. But I'm having to do this rifle work. And I felt intimidated, nervous that I had to do all this stuff, and he took all this time to show me what he had learned about how to make stuff look cool when you're working with the guns.

We talked about music. I was able to say, have you gotten to see any cool shows? And I think he was sneaking around and going to some of the cooler like venues, like probably under a cap and whatever sunglasses. And the band he was listening to was at this 2007. I'd never heard of Animal Collective, who I now love. And he was doing the Ande Animal Collective and Panda Bear. And we talked about, he, you know, I said, he said he was just talking about his kid and he asked if I had any and I said, oh man, I don't think I could do that. And he said some really nice stuff to me.

Like, you'll always think that. And then, I feel like you'd actually be pretty good at it. And I think when it happens, it'll be. And here's the thing about an actor like Heath Ledger, that I wanna be around people like that every time I go to work. Because you got two schools of thought. Got one actor here on set who's pacing around,

who is taking them in the chest and jumping up and down and getting in character and yelling at people and I'm the Batman! Bale was actually really... You're the Batman now Christian! He used to come to work by grappling hook. No, Bale was super chill actually. He wasn't like that but I've been around those actors You know what I mean? You've been around those guys who are just like... You're Jeremy Strongs of the world.

Oh my god. It's exhausting. Yeah, they're pain in the butt. It's all of the energy has sucked into them and their needs and their process and you've got gaffers trying to work on some light shit and these guys are, I'm ready. It's now. I'm in my zone. I'm ready to fuck. It's hard. So Heath is talking about, you know, music and bands and like his voice, his dialect, Australian, you know, dialect. And he's talking and then, oh, uh, Heath, we're, you know, ready. And then he's like, oh, I gotta go. And he's like, just turning a little knob in his brain, his little masterful genius brain of being that caliber of an artist that he could then go and become this thing,

this entity, this thing that transcended just like a movie villain. It wasn't just a, it embodied something that just tapped into everybody that saw that fricking movie. It did something to all of us. And I was just watching and on, and I thought about it, because I remember when he got, oh, this is the best moment I had with him actually. Remember when I heard that he got cast in the role and I honestly was like what?

Well we all know what it was. So I said to him, I think this is why he liked me. First thing I said we meet, he's very nice, very soft spoken, he's very, he's not outgoing by any means but he was definitely warm and kind. And I said, how's it going? You having fun? And he said, I'm having the most fun. I mean, the best time.

And I said, I gotta be honest, when I heard you got this role, I thought it was a terrible idea. And he goes, me too. And he, and I remember thinking like, wait, that night's tale guy is going to be the handsome 10 things I hate about you. But then you go back and you watch 10 things I hate about you. You watch Brokeback, you watch Monster's Ball.

And you're like, he, he, he was like our brand or James Dean. I even said that when I left, I went home and to my ex, I said something to the effect of, I feel like I just spent a week with James Dean. Yeah. And there's somebody that just, he had that, he had two scoops of it, whatever it is. Yeah.

I just love the him just like full Joker makeup. He's like, you know, Animal Collective is like unbelievable. Yeah. It's fucking great. Alright. This is more Chris Farley show elements. Sure. I'm going to add more. That was cool. That was cool.

You did that. Remember when you did. So you've worked with some of the hottest names, right? Well, I just heard. Hottest names. And a bitch. hottest names right? Hottest names! In the Bay! Unfortunately I think the worm's eye

is going to need to turn to Dune Yeah please, I love how much you love Dune How was it? Because my brief foray into the world of Dune showed me that a lot of these I'm going to go ahead and say young gentlemen that are of Dune showed me that a lot of these, I'm gonna go ahead and say young gentlemen

that are into Dune are nuts, right? Like they're nuts about the content. Like when you got, they're like, all right, we're gonna do Dune. Like did you ever, like, cause now you've been in a lot of nerd things before you got Dune. So you probably, you're used to the internet as a whole,

like handling what you're doing. Sure. Right? Like how does it feel to step into the role of fucking like Braddorf? internet as a whole, like handling what you're doing. Sure. Right? Like how does it feel to step into the role of fucking like Brad Durif? Yeah. Right? You're taking over for Brad Durif who's... So intimidating.

It's really intimidating. He is just... When you look at his resume and you think about every magical piece of freaking pixie dust he threw on every film he was in and And you look at just the, it's insane. Chuckie, he elevates child's play. He certainly does. He makes that a movie. Every Deadwood monologue that he has is unbelievable.

He was the best character. I just saw Earl Brown yesterday, he was also on Deadwood. And I meant to ask him for a while, what was it like seeing some of the Duref stuff? Cause he's just, it doesn't matter what it was, the David Lynch stuff you name it. He was he was he is incredible I want to work with him somebody somebody cast me and something with Brad and his daughter's a great actor too. She's cool

Yeah, she's an actor. She was doing Chucky. She was on this new TV series Chucky yeah, she um, play your dad. Yeah, that would be so rad man so so the story about that is really interesting because Denis Character almost in the book besides Baron. It's a great character It's a great character he Denis cast me in prisoners based on an audition tape But he had no recognized me from the Dark Knight and we became fast friends and bonded quickly and he kills me brutally in prisoners I mean, it's a brutal death.

Then he emails me several years later in a really interesting way at a really critical moment in my life when I was trying to decide between doing a big television series that didn't speak to me at all to make a lot of money or going to make my little indie film All Creatures Here Below. I was airing on the side of All Creatures and I was getting a lot of flak. That was at the point where I knew I didn't really want to work with agents anymore. And then he emailed me and said, I killed you in Prisoners, I want to bring you into the year 2049 and kill you in Blade Runner 2049. I was like, oh my God. So then we do

Blade Runner 2049 and then he's prepping Dune and I knew he was making Dune and he'd spoken about Dune as far back as when I first met him. And that had been his thing. As a kid, that was the thing that just was his thing. He already understands it better. He lived in it since he was a kid. And he goes, all right, I'm ready to kill you again. And he sent me a piece of concept art that was really beautiful of, but it was of me,

but dead, like post-poison. My friend Sam Hudecky does all of Denis' concept arts and he was like working on the worms and doing all that stuff. Like that was, that was rad. So the news I don't remember how it like came out or how people responded to it but I don't I don't think I paid much mind to that it was all I was my own biggest fear I it was just the thought of like stepping into the shoes because Brad did such an incredible job with the role in Lynch's Dune and-

He drinks the drink, it sets his mind in motion, which I- they should have given you that! I wanted that speech, I really wanted that speech. I had two really big scenes, sadly, that were cut out of Dune. One is Piter drinking the Sappho juice on the night of the invasion when we come back to reclaim. And so what's happening is all of Iraq, like the palace is just being fucking carpet bombed and all of the Atreides are getting slaughtered by the beast and I'm standing on this like precipice looking out at all of it. Just sipping my Sappho and I've got Thufir Howitt bound and like on his knees in front of me and I got to give this long luscious monologue about playing chess and why I'm

always six steps ahead of you and I would have won. And sadly when we were doing reshoots, Deniz said to me, he's like, David, you were so great. That scene is so beautiful. But like it just stopped the pace of this invasion. He's's like there's this huge action happening and all of a sudden it stops so he's like I gotta I gotta cut it and the other thing that got cut which was not in the book it was a scene that Denis was just playing with just creatively but I think it would have been really fun I wish it had made it is

that he gave me this like torture organ where I'm playing this like torture organ and you can't see who it is that I'm torturing but then the beast comes up and he's like stop wasting time with all this stupid games that you play and I'm Like you don't understand what I'm doing because what it ultimately was that I was doing is I had you a wife Yes, and I am torturing her but with some kind of what was it like opposite of the orgasm organ and the Exactly the exact opposite some kind of what was the opposite of the orgasm organ and the Barbarella. Exactly. The exact opposite. So, yeah, man, that was a dream come true.

And now part two comes out. I'm going to go see it next week. And I'm dying to. Yeah. So you're going to shave your eyebrows off for the. They're actually held on my magnets. You actually can't see it's for a regular removal for for film. I'll do it. They're actually held on by magnets. You actually can't see. It's for a regular removal for a film. These caterpillars? There's no magnet strong enough, man.

What is that actor who was in American Beauty that played the guy that's banging Kevin, that's banging Annette Bening. He's the real estate guy. I love that actor. I feel like he and I have the most pronounced eyebrows in all of entertainment. Peter Gallagher. Thank you. Not to be confused with Gallagher. Gallagher, Gallagher. Gallagher, Gallagher. It's actually two names. Anything else? Because I want to make sure, because we're going to get you out of here soon, but I can't let you leave.

I mean, I do want to ask you, please, David Lynch. Just talk on him. just okay. Here's the story. This is my yeah, I love this Story we're obsessed with David Lynch. We're obsessed with Twin Peaks. We should be if you're not obsessed with Twin Peaks There's something wrong with you. Um, I I Came to okay, so I done the Dark Knight I had a history in the theater and my obsessions with things that I get obsessed about, and I come to Los Angeles in 2000, I went to New York briefly, met Eve in New York,

we moved out to LA in 2010, and I took on this, because no one would sign me, I was like, I've been in a movie, I couldn't get an agent, I couldn't get a manager, I was just going to workshops where you pay 25 or 40 bucks to get to do scenes in front of an casting director usually and I and I would wake up every day because I was still had enough from the commercials to like keep myself afloat and I was submitting myself through actors access

to all these things and I put these goals up on like a poster board of stuff I've got to do this week and whatever how do I keep myself motivated Making a lot of short films with my friend Colin who went on to direct animals and all creatures here below and is now making all kinds of stuff. But like, I had three, I said you got it, goals to me have always worked this way. It's like I have the life goals, then I have the annual goals,

and then I have the like what's going on month to month, week to week, and sometimes even day to day, right? It's just how I run business. For as a creative, trying to make it in creative business, because it's like, you know, practical, you kind of break it down to a bunch of practical steps. And then what's the big dream? And I would wake up some days and be like, there's nothing for me to submit for here. There's nothing good happening here. And how am I going to do it? So, so what can I, if I ever am at a loss, look at those three big life goals and go, what could I do today to just get myself close? Read a book about it, do da da da da. So the three life goals were one, work with the Muppets.

It's still a goal of mine. I saw the Muppet movie as a kid in the theater and it changed my life. I remember Sweetums running through the screen at the end and thinking he was in the space with us. That's the first song I ever sang on a stage was the Rainbow Connection in kindergarten. That's the first song I ever sang on a stage was the Rainbow Connection in kindergarten. It changed my life. What a creepy child. It totally taught me comic timing. It's a brilliant movie. It's a masterpiece. Next to 2001, those are my two, like, if I said, this is magic of what movies can do to show my kids.

And then James Bond villain. So that's up there. And then in the middle was to work with David Lynch. That was one of the goals. So every time I'd be looking at the things and going, Oh, what am I doing? So here's these actors access submissions where you, if those listening don't know what that means, it's just, you're an actor and you're, you're paying usually a fee to be able to submit yourself to be considered to possibly get a chance to audition for something that doesn't even probably pay anything. That's the joy of being an actor. So I saw this breakdown and every time there would come one, I would just do the diligence

of going, okay, well, if there's a casting director, quote unquote, attached, I could at least do the research and see if that person maybe has connections somewhere, has worked on anything. And there was a USC short film. I couldn't tell. I can't remember what it was about or what the title was, but I did like the due diligence and I would cross-reference things and I see that the casting director is a woman named Krista Hussar, who when I googled her, I saw that she worked for Johanna Ray, who was David Lynch's casting director.

This is extremely good advice, guys. I want you to remember, if you are trying to make it, this is how you do it. And I go, oh my god. And I submit myself for this thing, and I get to go audition for it. Now the script that I was sent, I couldn't understand really what I was doing in it, and it didn't necessarily connect with me, but it was cool. It was a weird, very arty script, so I really prepared the fuck out of it. I mean, I came ready, and I went in, and I gave gave it all I had and the director was a USC student.

This is for a student film, by the way. There was no pay. You were going to get credit and a DVD of the short film. And I did some adjustments and then I thanked Krista and I knew from where I'd gone to the audition what her office was. So I sent a postcard saying like thank you so much you know I'm massive fan of of Lynch so I just just just know how honored I was to get a chance to even show you anything blah blah blah years years years go by I'm continuing to hone my craft and do work on projects and

blah blah blah and in 2016 I was in Chicago doing a short stint on a play and I get a call that I was going to get an audition for a top secret thing for Showtime. And they wouldn't tell me anything about it. And I went to go back to LA and I go to like the deep valley to this office and sign like all these NDAs and there's all these famous actors coming in and out of this audition room. Is this where we suck the dick to get in the Bohemian Grove? Speaking of Bohemian Grove, just you wait till late night with the devil. Every time we say it too we have to say late night with the devil.

The trailer is incredible because they find that perfect 70s. That guy's voice is so perfect. They put the perfect crackle on it so I go in this room and There is Joanna Ray in all of her glory this incredible casting director, and there's a camp camcorder and a couch and I'm like She goes to you. Oh, and she sits me down. There's no copy. There's no audition sides She goes tell us what you did this morning. And I go, okay, well, I woke up with my kid

and we watched the Muppet Show. This is a true story, we watched the Muppet Show. It was the, we watched the Alice Cooper and the Vincent Price episodes because I love the spooky stuff. And we talked about that a little bit and asked me a couple other questions and then turns off. And I know at this point

That that is the process for David Lynch's auditions. He doesn't do scripted sides. He does Conversational stuff he wants to see you. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so I so she ends and then she goes that was great and she goes do you know why you're here and I go Is this is this this isn't the David Lynch like Twin Peaks thing? Is it she goes? Yes, it is. But do you know do you know why you're here? I was like, I isn't the David Lynch, like, Twin Peaks thing, is it? She goes, yes, it is. But do you know, do you know why you're here? And I was like, I don't. And she's like, and sitting like in the corner is this woman,

a little pack of her, like, her acting, you know, names that she remembers. It's Krista Hussar, who had been the assistant, and who had been at that casting, who remembered me. That is how it works. And brought me in for this. I get to go be on set with David. So they just booked you from that?

They booked me from that. And it's a really cool role. And we shot. Yeah, it's an awesome role, it's great. I went for, my first day we parked at the Prince Hotel, which is this great place in K-Town. They have this incredible Korean chicken. If you've never been, you guys gotta go to the Prince. It's amazing. I love it. It's the best. And

then we shot at the LA times building, what was supposed to be offices of the casino, me and Brett Gellman. And then comes Kyle McLaughlin and here's David and David's like, I mean, he's, he's, he is everything I ever, I don't know. It's just, he is, he's that, he's like a messiah to me. He's such a hero, such a guru. And I, I get to go introduce myself. I'm super nervous as typical me and, and, and, and we start working together and, and I'm watching him and I'm like, this is everything that you could dream. It's this is what the experience was like for me. It's like it's like when when imagine if Dorothy, like Toto runs over and yanks on the curtain at the Wizard of Oz.

And you go and you pull the curtain back. But instead of some janky dude pulling a bunch of levers and nodules, it's even more magical than what you saw with that big green head. Because I heard he's like he's like funny and light funny light warm open Totally knows exactly what this was a seven hundred and something page script that we were she didn't shoot it like episodes of a TV show He shot a seven hundred and sixty some page Movie that he was then gonna cut later into episodes of a TV show so he would say something like you Someone would have a question and he'd be like, well, that's because on the scene that da da da da da,

we're going back to this page and did it. And you're like, he knew everybody's lines. He knew exactly what he needed in every moment. And you watch him work with someone like Kyle and he's like, okay, Kale, in this moment, you're going to put your hands on the table and slowly rise to face one another. And you follow him, you just do it because he knows exactly what he needs and watching the way their dynamic work together.

It's like evil Wes Anderson. And David, he still smokes, and he was carrying a, always an ashtray, and like I think by rules of whatever location we're at, had to carry a little fire extinguisher around with him and he would say um instead of instead of once more for um instead of one they always go like uh once more what do they say safety or safety yeah instead of that he'd go okay once more for security yeah and then at one point he went up to the roof of the and we had this PA who

was so sweet helping me get me like sodas and blah blah blah. Just like a guy help, being helper, working so hard. I was watching this guy run around and bust his ass all day. And I saw David sneaking up to the roof to have a cigarette. And I was like, Oh, I could have got a cigarette. He's like, Oh yeah, you have to go up to the roof. And I go up there and there's David standing there like staring out at the city of Los Angeles, like puffing on his cigarette. And I'm standing with this kid, not a kid, he was in his twenties, but um, and, and, and he, and he said, he's making conversation, he's so nice.

And he said, do you have, um, you have a family? I said, yeah. He said, you have kids? I go, yeah, I've got a son named Arlo. And he turns, he goes, Hey dad. And I realized this is David's son. Who is this filmmaker in his own right? Who was just busting ass and helping out for the day.

And I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be like, I, and I realized this is David's son. Who is this filmmaker in his own right who was just busting ass and helping out for the day? And he goes, he's got a kid named Marley. Oh, that's a wonderful name. What is that from? Um, and I say with the story of Arlo's name comes from he goes, You know, Monsanto, I think they may have been responsible for the for the tainted spinach at the Chipotle restaurants And I go huh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like he goes on this like he's he's in a thought about Monsanto and about GMOs

And this is the last I gotta gotta tell you guys, this is so good. So then we went to the Morango Casino out in the desert. And we lived there together. We all lived in the hotel! And then we'd have for lunch, we'd have the buffet together. And we're shooting at one point. And he's sitting at monitor, uh, five feet away from me. And I'm over his shoulder just staring at him.

And in my brain, I thought okay, man. I Know you've got power If you can hear me right now Give me a sign. Yeah Give me a sign David, please Give me a sign. I just sat and I waited and I waited and all of a sudden this is I swear on on all that I know because And just wild

I was like He's magic. He's magic and he's We all should be his his work with meditation and the subconscious and getting into who we are and being present. I don't do TM. I've begun a meditation journey though. My friend Steve Agee does TM and he would like, I think I might try it, but what I'm getting out of meditation right now has been immensely helpful for me and working on just a lot of the stuff that I'm kind of Going through and working through like psychologically and you know therapy stuff. Oh, yeah, it's it's really helpful You ever do auto erotic asphyxiation well That really centers me

I I Was always afraid of participating in that activity because I'm I'm not a guy to say no to anything. I was just like, there's that terrifying reality that you're going to be performing an interview with the police and they're like, shh, shh, she said please, she asked me to choke her. Okay, hands behind your back sir. I'm an actor! They're the first ones to call TMZ, are you kidding me? They get a tip fee for that.

That's why I always put a plastic bag over my head before we begin. Just to get me in the headset. The mindset of doing the show. Oxygen is everything. I am so happy. This has been awesome. Thank you so much for coming out. Thank you for letting us ask all the corny questions that we can't ask you like when we're just hanging out That was so and last time it was pretty fun. You guys we had a great response to the Goth Lee and I getting to talk about our comic book and all that nerdness was so fun

And I but I was sad that we couldn't talk about all the other stuff like the dune of it all or the other movies Of it all and and and because I know they're listening A big shout out and thanks to Eve and Karen for always turning me on to you guys. And now I'm so turned on. Thank you. So, Late Night with the Devil. When is the official premiere night? March 22nd. March 22nd in cinemas near you.

Be the first person. Don't scream too loud for late night with the devil It's gonna be good. It's gonna freak people out and I love you know, we love the devil. It's fun It's just it's a fun movie too And and and then the stuff that it's draws from and the reality behind it is it's really it's disturbing So it's it's just right up your alley. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm excited for the sequel the morning show with the devil Yeah, I mean, we already have one. Joe Scarborough. What's that weekend?

It's the Sunday morning with the devil. It's like the McLaughlin group. Church sucks, right? Yeah, actually, this devil guy's making a lot of sense. I would say one of the most jarring experiences of me moving to LA is I like to watch KTLA in the morning for the traveling and then just you showing up on a Paisley set in full goth gear talking to Sam. Yeah, yeah, talking Hollywood, yeah, the Hollywood Minute. The Hollywood Minute. No, it'd be better, even better. Like forget Jim Lehrer, what if it was NewsH, with the devil. With the devil? There's a lot of variations on this now. We've got a new-

Sports Center with the devil. With the devil. Well, thank you. Namaste. To catch a predator with the devil. Namaste. No, thank you. Hail Satan.

No, thank you. Oh, and Haki. Hail David! Yeah, you did good work. Really good work today. Really good work today. Really good work. Thank you for that.. Really good work today. Really good work today. Really good work. I feel good about myself.

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