Last Podcast On The Left - LPN Deep Dives: Dune / Episode 2: Bene and The Gesserits

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

Find "LPN Deep Dives: Dune" right here on Spotify!---As we continue our quest deeper into the spicy world of Dune, Henry and Holden peel back the curtain on the mysterious society of The Fremen and we... learn how Paul and Jessica survive their escape into the desert wastelands of Arrakis.Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Put your right hand in the box. What's in the box? Pain. Stuffed. Put your hand in the box. I hold your neck. I've gone to your box. Stop fear.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Fear is the mind killer. And fear is the little death that brings total liberation. I will face my fear. I will be able to pass over me. And through me. But Duke! We'll die before these eyes and they'll know. They'll know!
Starting point is 00:00:31 That it is I! And love of me a heart broken. With justice and duty. The sleeper awakens. Yummy, yummy, yummy. I've got dune in my tummy. And it feels like reading the books. Alright.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Now I'm in the mood. Hello, I am your god-emperor Henry Zabrowski. And here is my human wife, Holden McNeely. I oblige you sir. And I come with my milk. And I will feed baby. But I will feed dad as well.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Do you think that maybe your love will allow me to feel what it is to dance in a field. To be with my sweet, sweet C.H. again. Maybe. Okay. I'll see about it. Welcome to episode D.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That's the French. Welcome to the episode D of Dunecast. We're going to be going a little bit more into the plot of Dune 1. But I tell you this next little section, this quarter that we're going through, is a lot more philosophy than it is actual action.
Starting point is 00:01:36 To the point where I think Henry, you are testing me right now. Because I've been saying, what are we covering this episode? And he'll sort of start talking like he's answering. Covering? But then he'll, yes, exactly. And then he'll twist it and turn.
Starting point is 00:01:47 They need to start at quoting a passage from the book that I don't even think is in the section we are covering. The Orange Catholic Bible. I will always lay litany down upon you. It is what you like. It's important for you to know that a stone is weighty and the sand is heavy,
Starting point is 00:02:00 but a fool's wrath is heavier than both. You're so excited that you remembered your quote. I did. I will say, I want to, wait, we should probably recap what happened in the episode before we move forward. Absolutely not. Listen to that episode.
Starting point is 00:02:13 No, just to say, Paul and Jessica, his mother, they have been thrown out. has been murdered. He was supposed to take over Dune and the slice industry. All these sorts of shenanigans, but now we're in the section of the book
Starting point is 00:02:26 where the bad guys are winning. Baron Harkonnen, yes. Harkonnen. Harkonnen. I actually remember this all the time. I have to constantly fix myself to say Harkonnen. Oh, okay. And not Harkonnen.
Starting point is 00:02:37 How do you get that from, what did you get that from? The Lynch Dune? Audiobooks. You got to get it from the audiobooks. It's the only time I've ever heard any of these words said. And I think that's what's really important too. If you are reading along
Starting point is 00:02:47 or you are delving into the world of Dune, the audiobooks are nice because you can really disappear into them and you can finally hear the pronunciations of half the shit. And it's also funny to hear a weird old British man go, I don't understand. What is my terrible purpose?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Okay, I like him being Paul and Jessica at the same time. So now we know that Jessica and Paul, they were supposed to have been murdered by Harkonnen men, right? They were supposed to be taken. They specifically assigned a deaf soldier to tie up Jessica's because they knew they've heard about this so-called powers,
Starting point is 00:03:21 these witch's powers that the Bene Gesserit have. And that's what we'll talk about a little bit more in detail today. Yes. But I love the scene because the deaf one, right? Because the idea is they control people with the power of their voice, but it's a little bit more subtle
Starting point is 00:03:32 than it's shown in the Dune films. Yes. Also, I think it's very important to note that they say witch a lot and they throw around these terms, right? It's slur in Dune world. But yeah, at the end of the day, it's the Bene Gesserit which we're going to get into.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And yes, they are technically like these witchy-witchy women and they are fun in witchy. They're highly trained, highly capable women. It's like based in... It's when books... I really like this in name of the wind as well to name-drop another fantasy book I love. But I love when they base the quote-unquote magic
Starting point is 00:04:01 in some kind of science. And in this case, the voice, the way they fight, it's all based in actually physical techniques. So there's no true magic involved. It's literally decades and decades and decades, I mean, hundreds of years of technique training that has allowed this for them. Dune is the epitome of soft sci-fi,
Starting point is 00:04:20 which is what that means, which is the idea that we are in a totally human future. There is no robots. There are some aliens that we'll meet eventually. But the goal here is that it is all about what is the peak of the potential of humanity? And that's kind of what the Bene Gesserit are supposed to be. And that's why I wanted to go back
Starting point is 00:04:39 and did we talk about the Butlerian Jihad? Because I think if we're going to talk about the Bene Gesserit, we have to, in a way, talk about the Butlerian Jihad that sets all this up. Did we speak towards it much? A little bit, but to be honest, it's vague in the books. Unless you're reading the prequels, right now you just know for a fact that the Butlerian Jihad happened.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And what it was was humanity's escape from the league of super smart AIs that they had created. Terminator happened. Terminator happened. The plot of Terminator happened. On Earth. On Earth. On our time period,
Starting point is 00:05:12 Robots won, they took over for several years, and then the Butlerian Jihad is the term of humans coming back. And that explains why. And honestly, I feel like a dumb fuck asshole because I kind of learned this kind of in preparation for this episode this week. And I was like, oh, that really answers a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It does answer a lot of questions. Four fucking 800 page books. But you're supposed to read the books with this remaining mystery because that's kind of what Frank Herbert said as he was writing these books. He liked dropping little seeds and bombs. He just wrote the words Butlerian Jihad.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And then it kind of expects you to run with it. Because what you do notice is where are the robots? Why are there... This is not robots. This is all titties. All dickies. But you're doing sci-fi. You're like, oh, there must be androids.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I mean, they're thousands of years in the future. They have all this high tech stuff. And instead, we have mentats. Mentats being humans that act essentially as living computers that have trained their brains, which, again, is a very fascinating thing. We will get through... As we go through the plot points, we'll hit.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We will hit all of them. I just wanted to throw it out there, though, that technology has been fucking... At least, like, robotics have been wiped out from this universe. Yes, we said this last episode as well. But yeah, this is now where... That's why the Benny Jesserit have gotten the control that they have. Yeah, and the time between the Butlerian Jihad
Starting point is 00:06:33 and sort of setting up for, you know, the new era that Benny Jesserit got together, and we're like, Trixie, Trixie, we're gonna fucking puppeteer all this shit using our sort of witchy woman ways. Yes, with the great scattering. We'll get there. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Like, this is the problem is that that's technically in the future. We will reveal all of these as we go. Because also, I've never read the prequels. Ah, which is very difficult. Yes. Because there's a lot more story in the prequels. But was written by... Was not written by...
Starting point is 00:07:03 Me old son, Brian Herbert. Yes, was written by the son. A man who's... No one has ever loved their father as much as Brian Herbert loves his father. Yes. I just can't imagine continuing my father's work, which is just smoking packs of Marlboro lights
Starting point is 00:07:17 and screaming at people at Publix. Do you think they touched foreheads together to get the past to get the memory... They could touch fucking tips. Touch each other's penises. So, Jessica's writhing in these raps, right? Which I do love because they... Jessica is also beautiful in their world.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like, they're very, very sexually enticed by Jessica. And so, finally, this kind of series of shenanigans, Paul gets them all loose. Because Dr. Yui has set them up because he knew that he was going to be the traitor of all time and be known as the traitor of all time. But he loved the Trades family
Starting point is 00:07:50 and he did not want them to be wiped out. And he kind of conversely thought deep down in his brain that, oh, what I'll do is I will create this whole, like, revenge scenario. He was trying to fix everything by... And he did. He did in a... Yeah, he did in a way.
Starting point is 00:08:06 A man, of course, obviously. But sideways. How is it all goes? Because, again, there's just nothing more human than the world of Dune. So, it never quite works out... Yes. Exactly how they want it to.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Something I appreciate about... And you're referring to the Poisoned Tooth and Lido, the Lead Suicide. That's my favorite scene in the first half of the book. It barely misses Harkinen. Because Harkinen, remember, what I love again about Baron Harkinen, especially in this time period,
Starting point is 00:08:31 this section of the book is Baron Harkinen's section of the book. This is when he really is the most in charge and he's feeling himself. He's wriggling around. What I like is when he cuts back to where he is, now that they have taken over the Arrakeen Palace where Duke Lido used to live, and now that everything is fucking in tatters and destroyed,
Starting point is 00:08:49 he's living in this grounded, space-gilled freighter. They put this big spaceship on the ground and they put, like, rugs and pillows on top of everything and they put it, like, it's very, very nice in there. And they said the one thing they brought from Giedi Prime, the Harkinen home planet, was one of those Pete Townsend artworks where it was just like...
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's just little boys, like, jumping and playing in a stream and he just goes up and he's like, Yes, another plan, most accidentally executed. I'm just, like, rubbing the rumps of these, like, statue boys. Yes, the art that you get, it's the second you become a studio exact that you put in your living room.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He is the studio exact and he's loving it. Also, okay, so Harkinen, my big question was, and the reason why I brought up Mentats and stuff, is Baron Harkinen, one of the things he does is, he replaces... Piter de Vries dies in The Poisons. Well, unfortunately, one of my favorite characters, the Mentat assassin, Peter.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Peter, he was, again, Brad Dorough, best character actor in the fucking world and he just wanted to be in charge of doing it. He thought he was going to be in charge of doing it and he's immediately got fucking gait by Dr. Yui by, well, Duke Leto, who finally, like, bites on the tooth, spits it out and Harkinen, with his sixth sense,
Starting point is 00:10:02 that can only come from a permanent villain because he's this fucking very, very large man on suspense or tracks. How does no one kill this man? He somehow had the reflexes to, like, Oh! And, like, spin away from the gas. I also told Henry that when I read
Starting point is 00:10:19 Dude, the character of Harkinen, I imagined Henry on suspense. I get it a lot. I get it a lot. I can't wait to not walk anymore. With weird warts and stuff all over himself. We will start a podcast network and do it for all the world. We will show everyone the power.
Starting point is 00:10:35 We will squeeze! Squeeze them for their podcasts. So, at this point, Baron Harkinen thinks everybody's fucking dead, right? Because they chased them out into the desert. He's first called Paul and Jessica definitely dead. And he's just, like, excellent.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And he just moves on with his day because, you know, he's a villain. So his job is, he thinks, like, Oh, we've already done it. There's no way my elite group of essentially drug-addicted soldiers could possibly be wrong. Because what we find out is that
Starting point is 00:11:03 the guy that loses the job by dying, also by Duke Leto, the head of the Harkinen forces, gets immediately replaced by another dude who shows up, who happens to be addicted to this thing called Samuda, which is another one of those things I love when Frank Herbert drops in,
Starting point is 00:11:16 which is these, like, weird dune psych drugs, these, like, things that you do where it's, like, a combination of, like, it's either a thing you eat or smoke and then you listen to this type of music and then the music puts you into a writhing foam and then you have to take an antidote to pop out of it.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's very cyberpunk before cyberpunk, even. But it's also just, like, it's just got a lot to do with, because I don't know if Frank Herbert did a lot of drugs. Yeah. No, I need to, when I go through, we're gonna do an episode all about the bio of Frank Herbert,
Starting point is 00:11:47 because I'd like to find out for certain. And we'll look into it, but there was not, he doesn't have that rap like Philip K. Dick had. No, yeah, he doesn't have the street cred of P.K.D. Frank Herbert was a man who did his homework. These first three books took seven years to write. P.K.D. said that he was writing books that he saw in memories of a present
Starting point is 00:12:03 that hadn't happened yet. The fact that he wrote... He's literally, P.K.D. was insane. The fact that he read, it took that long to write it, just as a clear indicator he wasn't a speed freak or a fucking painhound. I guess how.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I mean, he must have just... Pussyhound. Pussyhound. Someone was a... They spiced down below. I'm gonna say there are very clear indications in the writings of the Dune series that he was indeed a pussyhound.
Starting point is 00:12:26 He was just... He liked the ladies. He liked a strong woman. Yeah. Jessica, I mean, you just talked about Jessica. One of the big things about the Bene Gesserit, real quick, is just that they are, like, actually specifically very good at sex.
Starting point is 00:12:37 They're very good at sex, because what they've learned early on is that the Bene Gesserit, they are both subtle and not subtle. They use sexuality to their way, because what they understand is that men are incredibly weak, especially when it comes to their wieners.
Starting point is 00:12:56 We allow a lot of decisions to flow through the urethra out of our penises and back in, and I don't know why. It's that gravy, babe. The gravy rules everything, and they understand they have to get a hold of it. This comes from the Dune companion. This is the Bene Gesserit,
Starting point is 00:13:14 an ancient school of mental and physical training. The Bene Gesserit order was established primarily for the female students after the Butlerian jihad, which is what you said, because they used to control all flows of information. They jumped right on it, essentially. They saw an opening, and that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:30 The Butlerian G had happened. They saw their opening, and they were like, we're going to puppeteer the whole... Over decades and generations, we're going to puppeteer this whole situation. We're going to take all of this shit. They are keen powers of observation,
Starting point is 00:13:41 which we'll see play out, because Paul gets a shit downloaded straight into the back of his brain. They also are body manipulators. They can do whatever they want in their own insides. They can control their organs. This is an extreme example of what I'd say of what they say about people that are yogis
Starting point is 00:13:58 or very intense martial artists where you can control your body temperature. To the point where you can levitate. One of the biggest early training techniques is just having someone sit there and only focus on moving just the tip of their pinky toe on one of their feet, and literally just do that for hours and hours and hours.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yes, and they do the hand exercises, which is what she brings up all the time, because the idea is to be able to control every single nerve of your body. They're so good at hand manipulation. They will make you fucking... I don't even want to talk about the bidet gesture, massage technique.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But they also, what I like about them is that they... Because they have different levels, right? So the Benny Jesterit have people like what Jessica was, which is essentially a handmaiden to a Reverend Mother, which is she was just sort of like on her way up working for a boss. Because the Benny Jesterit, the bosses are called Reverend Mothers, and they also have these positions
Starting point is 00:14:49 within the Imperial Government, where they do things like truth saying. What you will find out now is that the Baron Harkinen is very... He's very aware of the fact that what they're doing is both illegal and secret, but he is doing it in cahoots with the Emperor. The Emperor is there. The Emperor is guiding the hand of Baron Harkinen,
Starting point is 00:15:09 but at the same time, the Emperor can dump him at any time if he wants, because the Harknins have to pass the tests of the Reverend Mothers that are still within the Imperium, like Imperial control, because it all has to be legit for everybody to make the money that they're supposed to make at the end, even though it doesn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:27 and they're going to take it anyway. But they have to, in order to be a Reverend Mother, do this thing where you have to go through what's called a spice agony, and successfully you transmute the water of life. And what that means is you're given this psychedelic poison that your body has to turn into not poison when you eat it. And the only way to make it to a higher level
Starting point is 00:15:47 of being a Reverend Mother is that you basically have to make it through this ordeal to get through it. A very important note, Jessica, at this point in the story is not a Reverend Mother. She is not. She's just a sexy, sexy concubine to a Duke. Who's also just fucking one of the deadliest bitches to ever live.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Also, to be fair, they were cast out in the desert, and yes, Harkinen should have done his due diligence and made sure they were dead, but the desert, insanely deadly. There are sandworms. It's literally walking outside a Beetlejuice's house. The Harkinen purview. The worms just immediately fucking come at you.
Starting point is 00:16:20 The Harkinen's purview is that the premon are just a fucking bunch of scraggly whatever dudes. Scrappy little nobody. Whatever, just hanging out in the desert, lucky that they are not consumed by worms, and he thinks that they all live in primitive little huts, and that they're out there just fucking just living in fear of the worms
Starting point is 00:16:36 and barely surviving. But what he doesn't understand is that the Fremen on Dune, they are the real controllers of the planet, and they actually are one of the most up to which the Beetlejuice never thought that they'd have competition. They didn't know that the Fremen
Starting point is 00:16:52 would actually be that competition. To the point, well, and then I mean... So just going to Paul, they get away, right? They are immediately, they understand that they're in a lot of danger. They get scooped up. They get scooped up by an Ornithopter, which these Ornithopters are these fucking giant...
Starting point is 00:17:08 They're cool as hell. That was one of the first things like, okay, I guess it's an Ornithopter. You know what I mean? It's a helicopter that looks like a bug. And I think that's cool as fuck. And it's got like wings that catches the... Because basically,
Starting point is 00:17:24 Duncan Idaho slips down. He's just like, I'm coming after you. I'll stay on the future. And now that's the first time that Paul understands that something might be a little bit different about him. Because he is... Does he has a vision here? He's just not quite yet. He's found out that his father has died
Starting point is 00:17:40 and he doesn't know quite what to do about it. Like he knows it immediately because there's a letter from Dr. Yui when they crash that has the dupe and sign it written. Oops, mommy! I did it again. I killed you. Free Britain!
Starting point is 00:17:56 And Duncan Idaho comes down and Ornithopter sees them. He's like, I'm going to come back. Paul realizes something a little different because he's like, I recognized that was Duncan Idaho flying that Ornithopter just by the weird little indiosyncrasies that I know about Duncan.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He's like, I saw kind of the way like all of these weird little traits that Duncan would do. In the way he was flying this copter and I know that's not just my Benny Jesserit training. Because just guy has been giving him secret Benny Jesserit training on the side. And he...
Starting point is 00:18:28 He was like, but that's not my training. Benny! Benny Jesserit! We should save that. That's our weird owl. We're going to give this a big talk. I am working on a Dune Parody song album. This is huge.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I can't believe I didn't tell you about this. I'm writing an entire Dune Parody. I'm here. I'll do all the rap. You know how much I like a desert rap. So they get scooped up by... Duncan Idaho finally comes back and gets them. They go into the first CH that they ever saw. So the thing was that Duke Leto, when they were
Starting point is 00:19:00 first all talking about this bullshit while he was still alive, he wanted to get in control of these, but they thought that these imperial like, they're the stations out in the desert. And they were always thought for years that these things were inoperable. They were just kind of out in the desert. And essentially
Starting point is 00:19:16 to the Harkins, he was like, ah, fuck it. We don't need anything to deal with these bullshit outposts. We don't need these. Duke Leto got really interested in them because he thought they were filled with spice. The Imperials hold on spice. And he wanted to get some for himself because he started to understand, oh, I have to be Trixie Trixies
Starting point is 00:19:32 because everybody else is Trixie Trixies around me. But guess what? He got fucked. He's not Trixie Trixie. He's not. He's too pure. He's too good. He finally gets scooped by these friends and they go into one of these Imperial holding areas. And it turns out the Fremen are a little bit more cunning than they ever thought. This is
Starting point is 00:19:48 the first, like, sight into it. Cause Paul his brain realized, oh, fuck. Cause for years, they were saying, they've been talking about how do we terraform Dune? That's like one of the big questions that comes out in the first chunk of the book. Cause everyone's saying like, there's no water here. And it's this massive fucking problem. But we've terraformed
Starting point is 00:20:04 planets all over the universe. Why the fuck don't we just terraform Dune? And I know the answer to this question, but we're not supposed to know the answer to this question. Now we know the answer to the question, which is they kept saying that it was too expensive and no one wanted to do it. They thought
Starting point is 00:20:20 it was this weird bribe thing going on with it. It's because of the space guild we're doing. It's because of the Sandworm's relationship to spice generation. We still don't know that part yet. Well, that's what I was saying. No, no, no. But what we find out is that it's not the Harkinens and the Imperium that were bribing the
Starting point is 00:20:36 space guild. It was the Fremen themselves saying that we don't want these weather satellites here because if we basically will cut a deal with the space guild on our own and just give them spice because what they wouldn't discover if they put up these weather
Starting point is 00:20:52 satellites is that the Fremen have a massive underground system that they have been living in since the dawn of fucking time on Arrakis. And they are highly organized and they are already in the process of terraforming Dune. And they have
Starting point is 00:21:08 all the secrets when it comes and probably one of my favorite things in the especially the first book is they have all the secrets when it comes to water conservation. All of it. They know everything about the they know every single thing about the planet. They've been working with Liet Keens, this planetologist. That was supposed to be a member of the Imperium.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But Liet Keens at this point has basically become a Fremen. He is a Fremen. He's married to a Fremen woman. He's a part of a C.H. He is loyal to the Fremen and his overall arching goal would be to terraform Dune and make it so that we don't have to have anybody else
Starting point is 00:21:40 on this fucking planet telling us what to do. But he's playing a long game. But it's not revealed until they showed up. So the Fremen are us starting podcasts back in the yes, but less physically able. Oh yeah. Yeah, these guys are ripped fucking
Starting point is 00:21:56 these guys are fucking clean though. Killers clean though. Because the way that they handle with water and everything, I mean that's one of the fascinating things, right? It's like the still suits, the whole way that they can like turn dead carcasses. They can
Starting point is 00:22:12 drain the water from them. That's a part of their thing. They believe that any expression that would involve water like crying or it is sacred. Because they've trained their bodies to not cry. So that if you really do feel pain
Starting point is 00:22:28 they'll be like, oh see he sheds his water for him. Yes. Which is this incredible touching moment of like when you first know when Stilgar first goes to meet with Duke Lado and they have that meeting because Duke Lado's trying to woo them to work with the Fremen because he has an inkling understanding like
Starting point is 00:22:44 I think these guys are fucking bad asses and we need to work with him. And that the Stilgar looks at him and he's just like, I see that we will share water then. Our tribes will join. And then they sat and they stared each other and then he spits on the table and everyone's like oh and goes to their difference and shit. And then Duke Lado's like
Starting point is 00:23:00 How'd you? How'd you? That is the sign of honor. And then everyone's like yeah. They fucking pull out the plunge. They're like a little bit more water is going to get fucking out of this. But now that, so Paul is with Leigh at Keynes and they're kind of
Starting point is 00:23:16 having negotiations and they're stuck underneath this ground. She finally sees, he's like oh fuck. They got tech. They got all the globe shit. They are working. There's labs here. There's a whole sophisticated thing especially with the pack that he gets from Dr. Yui. He gets the Thumper
Starting point is 00:23:32 which he had never seen before. It's like all of this shit. He gets the Stil tent. He gets a sand snorkel. He gets all of this bullshit. Don't even laugh. This is real tech. This is high tech Fremen tech. The Thumper is a pocket putt. It's one of those remote controlled
Starting point is 00:23:48 butt plugs. Okay. It's for when you're a lawyer but you're also kinky as hell and you need to just fucking kick up a Tuesday. Bird. Bird is just a fucking big bearded big titty boy just like me. Just hungry for experience. So Leigh at Keynes and Paul are having like a standoff
Starting point is 00:24:04 because they're sitting here and they're talking a little bit. Paul has now become a little bit more of an adult than he ever thought he ever would. So up until this point Paul is not sure what the hell he is. He has a moment before they go into this meeting it's the first example
Starting point is 00:24:20 of what we call prescience or his vision into the future. And also the first sign that he's got like some Benet kind of and also he's a natural mentat. He's all of it. He has Benny Jesser training he's Quitsack Hatterack and also
Starting point is 00:24:36 he could have definitely gone to mentat school. So he's got like a problem relating to people. Like you're gonna see immediately that Paul is actually very frightening. Especially to his own mother which is kind of like oh fuck you. You wanted this. You made him and now you're afraid of the
Starting point is 00:24:52 Quitsack Hatterack because he sees this view in his face because he seems to understand like oh shit's gonna be different now. He can see in the past. He could see all realms of the future. He can see all realms of the present. The way he talks about it is like he's like the future is just now
Starting point is 00:25:08 like you're sitting with your mom everybody's dead. Everybody knows fucking dead. You're sitting in a tent like that is just like a big old like it's just a giant nipple with a sphincter on it right? And you're inside of this tent you're in the middle of the sandstorm and then you turn to your mom and you're like
Starting point is 00:25:24 I can see the fucking future. The future is like a flag. It's like what do you call it? It's like a ribbon in the wind. Every statement changes the future. It's like why did you do this to me? What am I? He's literally Matthew McConaughey in True Detective. He's like time's
Starting point is 00:25:40 a flat. I recall. He's right time's a fucking construct. That's another thing with PKD too. PKD we also talk about that time's not real which I guess is what happens when you do a lot of fucking cocaine cocaine. It just turns you into a fucking ambulance chasing
Starting point is 00:25:56 lawyer. You can, but some of those guys are just interested in money. So he has this kind of idea that there's something else going on. He's not quite sure what it is. Liat Keans to the Fremen, which you'll find out he's become sort of their god leader too because he was an off-worlder
Starting point is 00:26:12 but when he showed up and explained all of these things about the planet and what he learned and then he fell in love with the Fremen culture so much and he understood, honestly he understood their superiority. He understood that these are, they are in very loyal tribe systems. They are they are unfallably
Starting point is 00:26:28 they listen to their CH leader. They are incredibly forceful. They can kill a group of Sardarkar. They talk about how three of them can fight a hundred Sardarkar. The most elite fighting force in the universe. So what genuine question, what keeps them
Starting point is 00:26:44 and I know that obviously soon they're going to have some, maybe they might have like a leader or something that might push them to do this, but how come at this point they have not been just overthrown all the bullshit is it literally just because they don't have that one guiding force to
Starting point is 00:27:00 lead them into that or is it just because they're just trying to kind of stay low and just build up their whole empire a little mini empire. I don't know. I think it's not clear. I think in my mind though, I think truly it's about we're already dealing with our own shit like fuck Harkinans. We'll deal with it
Starting point is 00:27:16 like when we want to like we essentially can go kill them anytime we want we are on a long game of terraforming dune without any of these fuckers knowing and they just don't know that we're living our whole lives and he knows that as soon as we tell the Harkinans, like as soon as we show up and if you go for them and then you miss and if
Starting point is 00:27:34 you don't completely fucking kill them the imperial is going to show up with legions and legions of Sardarcar and blow up your whole fucking lives and then our Arrakis will become like I believe what it's called a Secunda. I forget the planet that Sardarcar come from
Starting point is 00:27:50 which is a prison planet. Can we say one of the coolest things about the Freeman that like no longer happens now but is like one of the things that we learn about what they used to be able to do? What? And I think this is another reason why they maybe haven't like arranged an attack yet. What? They used to be able to fucking ride
Starting point is 00:28:06 the dope giant sandworms? Oh, they don't just used to. They continue to. They do. That's how they get around. Okay, I forgot whether I thought it was and re-catching up with the plot I thought that it was something that didn't happen as much. No, you see. Oh, no, no. They live. They just have been keeping that
Starting point is 00:28:22 kind of on the DM. They don't want anybody to have anything to do with the worms because what you'll find out is that the worms are their god. It's Shy Hallud. They worship and venerate the worms because the worms poop out spice and because they poop out the spice which makes them them, right? Makes them feel nice.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It makes them feel nice. It makes you feel nice. It makes you feel nice. It gets up. Gets up. It makes you feel like, ah! Ah! At first but then you get addicted to it and then you can't leave the planet, which is also what Paul realizes as they're sitting around. He's like, oh, there's no escape for us. We are now on Arrakis
Starting point is 00:28:54 because what happens is as you get used to the constant permeation of spice just in the air, you get addicted to it and you can't not have it. It kills you to not have it. Yes. So it's a poison and a cure
Starting point is 00:29:10 all at once and it's like oil. It's that concept of like, you're fucking addicted to it. Yeah. So he meets up with Liet Kienz and Liet Kienz was saying he's kind of become this de facto god emperor quote unquote of his group of friends and they worship him.
Starting point is 00:29:26 They, you know, praise Liet. Liet becomes kind of short term for God, not unlike the hallowed, which is their real god of their cosmological religion. But he's kind of their focal point and then you have Paul shows up and they have this and essentially Paul says like, you know I'm Neo, right? Like your people
Starting point is 00:29:42 think I'm Neo and Liet in his own way at the first like, he doesn't want any god competition because he's like, oh, we can't you're literally a child. I am a man of the desert. Your child telling me that you're Neo. I don't care because I'm the god here.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So they have this tip. But finally like Liet's looks like there's something about this keyed. There's something about him. He sees them. He's like, okay, we could let's bond together. Let's join our tribes to figure out. All of a sudden, Harkin and show up. They follow Duncan Idaho. We see which is now it's a scene now that I have to know
Starting point is 00:30:14 because this is for all of y'all. We see Duncan Idaho get murdered by Sardarcar that are obviously in Harkin and outfits, right? Like he's killing a bunch of people but there's this flash when we see Duncan Idaho die in the hallway trying desperately to save Paul. Paul looks back. The sphincter
Starting point is 00:30:30 closes and then they leave to go out into the desert. They jump in an ornithopter that's left by Liet Keynes and he's like, you're gonna do this thing that we know as fremen we can do but no one else knows that we can do. You're gonna take that ornithopter. You're gonna jump into a sandstorm. The sandstorm that they've been told
Starting point is 00:30:46 again and again and again destroy everything it touches and kills can strip the fucking skin from a person. He's like, you're gonna jump into this thing and you're gonna go and you're gonna ride the top of the sandstorm and then I'm gonna tell dudes on the other side they're gonna find you because we know where the sandstorm's going. Meanwhile
Starting point is 00:31:02 like Paul's like, what? Because he's like, that's a lot of shit that you know that I had no fucking clue that you knew how to do because he's still constantly learning like, oh these motherfuckers are for real. Like they got a lot of shit going on. And so they put the scene of Duncan Idaho dying
Starting point is 00:31:18 is going to leave a reverberation throughout the rest of the sea of my god because this is, it's weird because it's in Dune 1. I don't know if he meant it because in Dune 1 it's kind of like that cool guy's dead. You know what I mean? Oh that cool warrior
Starting point is 00:31:34 dude's kind of dead. But then it turns out like, oh this is like the most important part of all of the books. Weirdly enough, yes. Because Paul sees him and then what you and I hold to know about the books is that that's gonna be that last look
Starting point is 00:31:50 is like a thing that is shared forever. Like Paul does this thing when they're in the desert where like Duncan Idaho is like, do what my shield young lord. And he's just like, I tell you what Paul, your right arm is shield enough for me. And it's like this weird trust he gave
Starting point is 00:32:06 Duncan Idaho, which is like okay, but then it's very important. And now you're asking, well how why is this the most important character? He dies right here and I also Yeah like page 300. You also know that book four, I mean these are thousands of years in the future. How
Starting point is 00:32:22 could that possibly be? You will find out these things. Also just remember every single time you think you're about to say goodbye to a character in Dune and you miss that character, just know it's coming back in a way that you might be like why do you do this? Why is this coming back? Why is this guy
Starting point is 00:32:38 coming back? And he's like, they keep coming back. So don't worry about it. Anybody you like, they show back up at some point except for Leigh-Ed Keynes. Leigh-Ed Keynes just dropped off in the middle. I like forgot about Leigh-Ed Keynes. This is a spoiler by the way because he's a big character in that first book, in that part.
Starting point is 00:32:54 He is very big because he teaches them all the vague small things they even know about the desert. That's kind of what he's served to do. It's like the last version of like things used to be normal on this planet. Things used to have an order. Leigh-Ed Keynes was their little god.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Harkadins where you know they were there for 85 years. Just you know when they're a little horrible thing on this planet. Working their people, working the people of Arrakis. Because there are people that are on Arrakis that are city bound. Or just humans that live there, that are from other parts of the Imperium.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They're all probably mixed with some Fremen but mostly the Fremen are both a myth and a fear and all of this shit. They just live out in the desert. They don't want to have anything to do with the water fat people of the cities. Yes, and that's why you have to look at Paul
Starting point is 00:33:42 as this distillation of every single strong element in this universe or at least this civilization. Because he's got the Bene-Bene he's got the Bene-Jesserit. He's got Bene-Jesserit training. He's got the Fremen knowledge now. Soon.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Especially when he fully becomes fremen. He's in the pocket to learn all this shit from the Fremen. He's got all of this just bureaucratic knowledge of all the different things. Teager, he's learned how to be a propaganda artist. He's learned how
Starting point is 00:34:14 to be a political McAnuver. Is that the term? Is that the term? Sure. He's just a fucking he is all of these things. He's Karl Rove, if Karl Rove with Timothy Chamele, and then if also he could do karate. With Timothy Chamele can't do.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Ralph Machio meets Timothy Chameleon meets Martin Luther King meets Nio. So it's all of these things at once. But we don't really know
Starting point is 00:34:46 quite yet the full extent of what's going to happen with Paul because the one thing we'll learn about the Quitsack Hatterack is that every fucking person, everyone of these fucking people think that they're the ones that have control over the Quitsack Hatterack. That these some kind of fucking puppet the Bene-Jesserit think they
Starting point is 00:35:02 got him under control. The fucking Fremen think that they'll get him under control but they don't understand that he's the fucking spark that's going to set this whole fucking planet on fire. Why did I throw out, though, the reason why the Bene-Jesserit, okay, and I've been talking about missionary productivity because you already kind of mentioned the religion of the Freeman.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I do want to sort of instill this maybe concept at this point unless it's too early. But I also want to say that the reason why the Bene-Jesserit, who as we already said are so brilliant are these puppeteers of the universe at this point have been working so hard to create this chosen one
Starting point is 00:35:34 and then use this chosen one for all of their power. But the reason why you're thinking like, well then why is it throwing them off so hard? Well, the reason for that is because it just jumped the gun a bit. They did not expect Jessica to have this man. They thought there was going to be a whole other generation
Starting point is 00:35:50 before the chosen one was going to happen. That's their reasoning. But my view is that you create the monster and then like it'll never be under your control. You think you want this thing. You think you want this this powerful tool because what
Starting point is 00:36:06 they're actually, they don't understand is that they're closer to the Harkadins than they think they are. Because number one one thing that's revealed, this is a spoiler as he's sitting in his prescient fucking sway, he realizes not only can I could see all these pasts so I can actually see
Starting point is 00:36:22 who your father is mom because the Bene-Jesserit, they also keep everything secret about where they come from. And the DNA lines that they're trying to contribute because they want you to number one be able to fuck whether or not that guy turned out to be your brother. Like they want
Starting point is 00:36:38 because they might want that. They're building up certain qualities in people. What you find out is that Jessica is a child directly of Vladimir Harkinin. And so she carries his jeans and you find out like they didn't even, they talked
Starting point is 00:36:54 about the Quitsack Hatterac and they floated all this shit but they wanted them to combine Harkinin and a tradies would create the Quitsack Hatterac but they thought Jessica was not going to have a boy. Well they thought it was just for political game. They thought it was for political game we're going to bring these two upstart
Starting point is 00:37:10 shitty houses that are fighting all the time we're going to bring them together. Then we're going to marry that to whatever because they're praying that the emperor would have a son like that's the big thing is that the emperor has not had a son. All we know is like now when you read the books you see these words like the beginning of each chapter
Starting point is 00:37:26 that come from Princess Irulan who is the emperor's daughter but he has no sons there is no heir. So this idea of like it's basically they had to create all of this shit. It's like a long game but they were completely fucking wrong. But now Paul who's his whole life
Starting point is 00:37:42 has been trained because remember for his book it's just supposed to be tradies versus Harkinin. They're the bad guys right? So his whole life he's been trained to hate Harkinins. But it turns out he is one. So now he has to like figure it. He has to roll this around in his head. Cut to
Starting point is 00:37:58 Harkinin. Harkinin is ohm so filled. So filled and he's trying to explain everybody because he's like we must go. He calls in his best boy Beast Raban. Beast Raban is described as ugly of face and of body.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Almost fat enough for suspensors because Harkinin he doesn't be like you will earn his suspensors one day. You can tell by his girth he's so excited for it because imagine that being able to give your son like his first suspenders. I liked that one part where he orders a pizza and then just drains an entire
Starting point is 00:38:30 slice of grease into a cup. Drinks the cup and throws the pizza away. Pizzas for losers. I drink only the grease. The essence. The superior essence. Do not waste the grease or you will be sent to death. You want to face the mighty
Starting point is 00:38:46 ref. He believed in not wasting any grease and that was very similar to the Freeman but it was more disgusting. So now that they have been blown up a second time, Paul and Jessica the guy comes to Baron Arconis it's like no listen boss
Starting point is 00:39:02 this time we definitely got him there ain't no way anybody's going to make it through one of his suspensors boys and he's just like well show me the bodies which again remember no body no crime all of you out there if you're going to come over here you reference the Taylor Swift song off of Evermore.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I did. Yes. It's called no body no crime. Yes. Is this one of her bonnie verre like everybody's crime bullshit. Hame is featured on it. Corey Hame? He's dead. Is he? Are they named after Corey Hame? They just took a bunch of different clips from the various TV
Starting point is 00:39:34 shows he was on and that's how they got him on the song. I can say I don't think I've ever heard a note of Hame. I don't even I don't know because I'm too busy at a Starbucks I'm too busy with Dune. You heard it at you heard it unbeknownst to yourself at
Starting point is 00:39:50 an old Navy or whatever it is. Is it the one that goes like you want it? You got it. Yeah. You want it baby. You got it. It's Dune. Is that it? I just put Dune in an all song part where they said it's Dune.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yes. Absolutely. She calls it Beast Rebonne and Beast Rebonne is a fucking mother fucker. I hate this guy. I don't want to hear everything about this guy anymore. I'm going to love this guy. Because it's him and his younger brother Fade Rautha, right? Those are the two Harkinen like heirs. So the ones are going to be taken over
Starting point is 00:40:22 the whole fucking shebang and he decides because he needs money. Because one thing that they found out because Thufir Howit who we'll get to next Thufir Howit he kind of estimated and we'll find out it's true. I said whatever it was that it took Baron Harkinen to bring
Starting point is 00:40:38 this massive fleet of soldiers because the thing that what it took the entire Atreides force was on Arrakis and they got blown up. The Atreides force they've been fucking kicking ass across the universe for fucking decades. They decided that the Harkinens pulled out all
Starting point is 00:40:54 the stops. They spent what he said he estimated it would take 60 years of spice output to match what they spent on the the invasion. Because also the tricksy tricksy thing that Duke Leto did is that he destroyed all the private stores of spice on
Starting point is 00:41:10 the prime in this big suicide attack that basically the Harkins are kind of fucked right now because they spent all of their money on this shit. So the beast raven was a fucking rapist and a murderer and one of the worst motherfuckers in the face of the planet. He's like you're now in
Starting point is 00:41:26 charge of doing your job is to get me fucking income. And without what's going to require for you to do is squeeze. I need you to squeeze which I actually understand because it's me screaming and like my account. Right. Right. Right. About taxes. Yes. Yes. About how illegal
Starting point is 00:41:42 your tax situation is. We shouldn't say these things to a microphone. I'm legal. I'm paid up. He's above board. And so now he but so what they have in their hands is Thufir Hawa. Who is the head man to add assassin for the traitors. This guy's a fucking real deal. But we got a discovery
Starting point is 00:41:58 because you remember in the first episode they floated this idea where they try to make everyone suspicious of Jessica that Jessica was going to be the traitor because they always said the whole thing is they would be knowing anybody with suspect and the very nature of the trader would destroy the heart
Starting point is 00:42:14 of the traitors family. So Thufir Hawa using this information and its mental abilities said it's Jessica. So they have a big confrontation at one point when everything is still before everything blows up. So now he still thinks it's Jessica but now he is in the Harkinons hands. He's going to be in the Harkinons hands
Starting point is 00:42:30 quickly because first you see Thufir Hawa hanging out with these fremen. They help him get out and you see one of the coolest fucking scenes in this book which is him watching from a cave hole the fremen fucking destroy an entire fleet of
Starting point is 00:42:46 Sardarcar in a suicide run. They basically steal like they go they steal a fucking Hornthopter quick from these like a bunch of Sardarcar to kill everybody. Did you say the Sardarcar they are the Emperor's special soldiers. Yeah the Emperor's new groove. They've been stuck but they've also
Starting point is 00:43:02 been in an outfit so people think that they're Harkinons because that's a part of the whole cover and so they go in they fucking they blow up this whole space school thing it's fucking wild. Thufir sees this shit happening and he's just like this is the most amazing I've never seen such daring
Starting point is 00:43:18 I have never seen such taught men or so loyal they did fight. What an underwhelming reaction. Well this is just simply I like this I'm glad they could do this because he was hoping in the end I want to join up with the Fremen.
Starting point is 00:43:34 We had known from the very beginning oh the Fremen we think they might be pretty intense and then when they did that he's just like oh yeah but then immediately gets caught by the Harkinons but this is the thing. So Harkinons got this mentat and the Harkin mentality which is the truth with this mentat.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Harkinon gets really pissed in this scene because the guy goes and he's just like actually did you actually murdered the old mentat and he would be like saying something cool to Baron Harkinon but he gets pissed. He's like I never waste a weapon without extensively
Starting point is 00:44:06 thinking about it. He really does view people around him as tools and weapons and so he really wasn't done with Pettor yet. When Pettor was murdered he was pissed because he needed his mentat assassin now he's got a new mentat assassin through Furhawad but the thing is about these guys
Starting point is 00:44:22 is that mentats they don't necessarily have house loyalty. They can learn and you can earn a mentat's loyalty up to a point. But at the end of the day they're as robotic as a human could possibly be in the sense of
Starting point is 00:44:38 like they don't have big emotional connection. They're not supposed to because if they have these emotional connections they can't do the far view sightings of all the computations that they need to do. So also too on top of that through Furhawad believes that
Starting point is 00:44:54 Jessica is the one that shat the whole bed here. So therefore that answers my question I posed at the beginning which is why did Harkinon replace Howlett who was coming from the Atreides house with why did he employ him is because he actually
Starting point is 00:45:10 perceived him as being both in his pocket and at the same time not emotionally connected in any way to any of this. But also what he does to through Furhawad before anybody knows or what he before through Furhawad knows. The part where he tickles his knees and I was like ew why are you doing this. That's inappropriate. Dude this is creepier
Starting point is 00:45:26 than what I do with my boys. Let me see your reflexes. I kicks. I hit him with a little mallet. His food kicks is the best game I've ever seen. That scene made me want to throw the plug in a fireplace. I was like 20 pages on fucking knee reflexes. But he
Starting point is 00:45:42 he decides to put secret poison and through Furhawad's food. And then puts the antidote for the poison in other parts of his food. So what he do for how it doesn't know is that he's about to be completely chained up to the harkness and he will try to fight
Starting point is 00:45:58 but now he's just like he's fixing fixing him fixing him plans with plans with plans. But that's the it's it's hard because you can't get a you can't get a Mentat's loyalty. You have to fucking work it out but you have to use their information against them
Starting point is 00:46:14 because he's hoping because he kind of openly says that they lack so we're supposed to send him a new evil Mentat. Because the problem with evil Mentats are needed for evil people because normal Mentats twisted twisted Mentats you have to
Starting point is 00:46:30 be able to like a Mentat supposed to be able to use all computations to kind of come up with the best decisions possible for anybody in any scenario. And it's supposed to be logical and it's supposed to be cost effective and it's supposed to be like strategic
Starting point is 00:46:46 each one. But an evil Mentat will tell you how to do all that but evil. An evil accountant. You just need one of those guys to use to work for the mob. Where is this guy? I need this guy. I got a guy for you to do your taxes. This guy doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I need that guy. Where is that? This guy gives no shits about legalities. This also comes from a Dune companion. Let's see if they can explain a Mentat even better. A Mentat is a human trained to possess logic and computational ability. Mentat's abilities are heightened through the use
Starting point is 00:47:18 of Safo Juice. Which is if you see in the David Lynch movies it's the same thing where their lips are all purple. But I don't know the difference between Safo Juice and Spice. But I know they get Spice eventually. It's different. It's so many juices in there. It's funny. The physical difference is behind
Starting point is 00:47:34 blue eyes when it comes to the Spice. You have blue eyeballs. But you got pink lip. When you got the pink lip that means you that Tleilaxu dip. Because yes man the Tleilaxu. I can't wait till we get to book 3 to talk about the Tleilaxu.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah I was about to say don't even worry about the Tleilaxu. Book 2 and 3. I love the Tleilaxu. We're going to get into the face dancers. We're going to get into the idea of these gigantic entire planet of just bio tubes making human creatures.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah I fucking love that shit. Very interesting. Thufir Hawat has been captured by the Harkonnens. Paul and Jessica are in the middle of this fucking storm. And she is really, really scared of Paul at this point. Paul is getting kind of
Starting point is 00:48:22 an hinge. And what Paul lets loose a little bit is when he went into his meeting with Lee at Keynes and he kind of drops. He's like being real adult in that meeting where he says like a boy threatens this dude. This guy could fucking cut his face off.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Really intense. And he's still like and now I'm seeing him as Timothy Shameloma Dingdong. So it's like Timothy Shameloma Dingdong goes into the office of a warrior king and he's just like I'm the Duke now. And you will see I will wield more power most effectively. And you have to be like
Starting point is 00:48:54 I guess I take this guy super seriously or whatever because he's fucking 95 pounds but everybody's bowing to him. But he apparently had been operating that whole time under the guise of second sight. I don't want to talk about the prescience until
Starting point is 00:49:10 we get into book two. Yeah because book two is a little bit. Or even until he goes through the test the spy sagging. The spy sagging. Spoiler alert by the way not only yeah he might also become. I don't know what he's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen at the end of this book.
Starting point is 00:49:26 He just ended up both Jessica who's not a river mother yet and Paul who also might want to go through this process just did it up in a situation where they're fucking nuts deep in spice and they just have to because he blames it on that. He's saying he starts to understand like oh my powers are starting to kick in because
Starting point is 00:49:42 I'm soaked with the spice just from eating it in the spice coffee because they eat it in their food, they eat it in their drink. It's just literally what happened to LA when we got legal. It's just I am weed. Yes. But I have to have it to smile. Possible item I could put in my body now
Starting point is 00:49:58 can be infused with weed if I'd like it to be. Do you need weed tampons? They are there. Do you need weed shoes? You can get them. They're all hemp shoes. They got rollies too even. They got the light up one. Hemp was fucking shut down by the fucking cotton industry dude because you don't fucking get it. Hemp was multiple
Starting point is 00:50:14 use. You can eat the seeds dude. You can make bread from it and rope. This is actually a freeman talking about water to a board, a very board. But when he understands Paul because of his second sight, he
Starting point is 00:50:32 made all of the decisions he made. He was seeing it from the present into the future and was aping a future version of himself. So he said he was walking in steps and then when they got into the ornithopter he stepped into a blank point
Starting point is 00:50:48 of his prescience and so he didn't know whether or not this shit was going to work out at all. But you start to see oh, this second sight that everyone's going to say later on, he's so blessed to know the future that he knows how to move to make everything
Starting point is 00:51:04 safe and he knows what to do in order to get the best outcomes for everybody but it's also a thing you're chained to. Yeah, it's a curse and it's also a gigantic responsibility because now I think one of the biggest overall
Starting point is 00:51:20 concepts of this book is everybody knows who's best for the universe. Everybody knows. Everybody knows. The Emperor. Everybody knows. And so this is the story of like maybe one person
Starting point is 00:51:36 who actually might know and can actually do something about it. Yeah, maybe he'll change everything or maybe we're not supposed to know and supposed to have this kind of control because at the end of the day it might create a weird utopia dystopia. Or
Starting point is 00:51:52 in my yeah, a thousand year reign of a Emperor Worm God but you know that's again we're skipping ahead, we're skipping ahead. I see a worm with like a tiny mustache. It's so hard to get it to stick to this fucking worm. That's why
Starting point is 00:52:08 in my mind, every time he has one of these pre-seant like outbreaks, I see him like seeing into book five. Seeing from book five. A scene from book three. A scene from book one. At this point we should say like because we're making it sound like
Starting point is 00:52:24 and then he sees us doing this podcast. Yeah, right? He sees us doing it. We're making it sound like he has he doesn't have the control. No, he has no control. He might get later. Like he's very it's very unwieldy. Oh no, it zips it out. He's a child. It's the first time it's happening to him. The spices are waking
Starting point is 00:52:40 it into him. Yes. It's starting to understand oh fuck. Like I'm a superhero. Yeah. But I didn't want to be one. I didn't want this shit. You guys made me this but now I guess I'm in charge. Shader Parker. Yeah. And so he's in this ornithopter. He's driving around. He is
Starting point is 00:52:56 crazed and you know his mommy is like super like you're not being a baby right now and they fucking go through all of the get to the vortex and they manage to land and find themselves out in the middle of the desert. So they have survived. Well despite when everybody said that it was going to happen, they made
Starting point is 00:53:12 their way through the storm. They're now landed but then they have all of this gear right. They have all of this sort of gear and they didn't know how to use it but somehow he can access his memories and say like I know what this thing is. I know what a thumper does. What we'll do with the thumper is it's this mechanism that you
Starting point is 00:53:28 stick into the stand and it goes bump bump bump bump bump bump bump and it tracks a worm to it and then you can go the opposite way and then when you have to walk you also remember some of his memory you have to walk in the desert not like a man would. Like you can't make a this dude like which I also was like it's one
Starting point is 00:53:44 of those ecological like things where the whole point is that the way to survive in the desert is that you're supposed to be of the desert and I think it's very important to remember because I think it's also there's like a magical thought in there too where there's something about how
Starting point is 00:54:00 if you want shit to line up in your life a good way to do it is to slide into an environment where you are now working in concurrence with the environment instead of against it where he knows the no way for me to not attract a worm is I have to move like an animal would that wouldn't be a human so you have to go
Starting point is 00:54:16 step stop slide step step slide pause step when you're in the desert it's a long time so yada yada yada they arrive at the siege and that's where we're gonna come up we're gonna start next episode
Starting point is 00:54:32 and talk about the my favorite scene in dune one which is them all meeting up for the first time because what I love about this is that because again we've only heard tell of the powers of the bennie jessaret and the powers of the fremen
Starting point is 00:54:48 and watch them like but france is fucking sweet I mentioned a phrase and we can hold off until next week if you want but I did mention a phrase that was in our notes for this week mission aria protectiva the mission aria protectiva is you know we mention how
Starting point is 00:55:04 bennie bennie and the jessaret we're essentially trying to be puppeteers of the universe after the robots were defeated in the giant robot war that never really gets talked about that they filled a gap that was there and they understood I think in a way that like on earth
Starting point is 00:55:20 I think women I'm gonna be going on here in a while watch it watch check yourself before you fucking wreck here's the thing about women is that they um were abused a lot on the planet earth and they actually were in a secondary position
Starting point is 00:55:36 once we got rid of all of the moon religions and we became mostly a solar religion base and then we all of the Christianity Bible we're talking about some other time all this kind of bullshit how we became essentially a patriarchy by subjugating the creative power of women and we did we did that we
Starting point is 00:55:52 controlled them because we were afraid of them the bennie jessaret decided what if there was a future where women were totally in charge and women were the puppeteers of the universe and I think that they then they did it they tried it and this is the missionary protectiva from the dune companion a propaganda
Starting point is 00:56:08 arm of the bennie jessaret I find it interesting that this person calls it propaganda the missionary protectiva was a cadre of missionary like sisters of the order who ceded the known universe with prophecy patterns for the protection of other bennie jessaret personnel who might venture
Starting point is 00:56:24 to backwater worlds quote-unquote backwater worlds so what they have is they decided to act just like colonizers they decided to create religion in different spaces just to create legends and myths to create hook points for the bennie jessaret to show up and be in a place
Starting point is 00:56:40 so when we show up okay we show up on a planet that we're not maybe ready for well at least they'll be precedent for we are in control and that we are a safe group here and what they didn't know is that this missionary protectiva person went with a long time ago arrived
Starting point is 00:56:56 in arachis and gave him the concept of modib the desert mouse the one that the shortens the path I believe is the term that they use this guy the Lisa now get yes because well they have the quits that cataract I don't know why they didn't think oh we're like creating parallel things
Starting point is 00:57:12 here yes hopefully they don't fucking show up together at the same time what is so great about what we're saying right now is the bennie jessaret completely fuck themselves in the ass by creating this myth of a chosen one in the freeman tribe they thought was gonna help them and then they literally just through this series of unfortunate events
Starting point is 00:57:28 have delivered this concept human to the freeman in this moment they just gave it to him because that's the thing is that now because the bennie jessaret now it's all everything's in control because the bennie jessaret to be fair did not know that this fix was going down on doom no they did not know they were
Starting point is 00:57:44 not put into the plans they did not know that there was this going to be this war there's going to be a fake harkening sponsored by the imperium like a lot like he didn't all of the shit was going to happen so they didn't know that they were going to immediately lose control of the quits because it went straight to the freeman
Starting point is 00:58:00 which is this group of ragtag fucking people that no one little nobody nobody had any money on these guys no one thought these are going to be guys that were going to lead the galactic jihad and that word is important that word is important in these days they were going to lead the jihad against
Starting point is 00:58:16 the entire universe yes and we're just seeing the little spokes of this we that that is where we're at at the end of this episode at the beginning of the next part this this union will form and I think that that is some fascinating
Starting point is 00:58:32 that is some fascinating Herbert at work like bringing it all together having it all connect in this crazy way would go on to say and we'll cover this a lot later on but Frank Herbert will go on to say he thought in his mind he was writing the book
Starting point is 00:58:48 so I mean he's insane but I like that about him where he was like doon will explain everything and that's just like all right well we'll fucking see bro we'll see what happens we'll see if it explains still fucking doesn't explain everything for you
Starting point is 00:59:04 Clarissa fucking lay down all right why don't we call her and see what Clarissa has to say about all this all right honestly I could use some help I wish that Clarissa was a resource was a co-host of a podcast an executive producer like somebody
Starting point is 00:59:20 just helped it just create more of an explanation it's right outlines it's just to coming into a room once a week and just trying to hammer it all out just screaming at each other and we don't know anything we don't have a pleasure or wives we don't have a fucking make a career better we literally
Starting point is 00:59:36 grapple for the for 30 minutes before we and then immediately we start recording we scream and scream and scream and then we have a hot dog eating competition just to see if we one of us will throw up before the show and then we begin then we start hey and now thank you guys so much for joining us
Starting point is 00:59:52 this week for Dunecast we'll be back next week listen to all the other incredible shows on LPN last podcast on the left Wizard and the Bruiser paid seven pop history ablenk it's top it's all out there but now another selection from Dune theater
Starting point is 01:00:30 we now join the Baron Harkinen as he is fit for new suspensors hahaha hahaha my dear Baron please get off the ceiling I may be your tailor but I'm very busy this day but what if I like it here on the ceiling
Starting point is 01:00:46 you've got to stop spinning please I'm spinning on the ceiling spinning spinning I make myself sick then I throw it up now I drink throw up it's delicious I'm evil now I take my penis out
Starting point is 01:01:02 yes we all know with the boy and did somebody say a little boy I'll come down for little boys please come down you know I tell you what Taylor it's sometimes lonely at the top yes everyone loves it when a man talks about how difficult it is to be rich
Starting point is 01:01:18 and powerful no one wants to get to know the real me because maybe the real you is shitty yeah but that also gives me my bad boy attitude my reputation don't jet please you know I have to outfit fade Ralph with the new leather penis hammock this day
Starting point is 01:01:34 are you yelling at me are you telling your Baron what to do no I mean maybe I mean I don't know I'll take your heart poor boy and I'll watch you die and then I'll laugh about it and then I'll fly around the ceiling again
Starting point is 01:01:50 I know that's what you'll do you've done that to count this Taylor's before me please just come down how about you come up here you know I can't spinning just quit being a villain for one second no with these new suspensers I know they're about to give out foolish table I will never
Starting point is 01:02:06 oh I did fall told you so never tell anyone I fell you know I won't tell anyone it's too risky I'm gonna have to pull your heart plug fuck I should have picked a different light
Starting point is 01:02:22 to work yep you should have been an accountant though I did kill all the accountants this morning well I guess I'm just gonna lie here about my suspensers it's very difficult for me to move with my current weight I don't mind it
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