Last Podcast On The Left - LPN Deep Dives: Dune / Episode 3: The Baby Gods

Episode Date: March 29, 2021

Check out "LPN Deep Dives: Dune" right here on Spotify.---In this episode, Henry and Holden continue down The Golden Path, as the story on Arrakis begins to unfold for Paul Atreides, who's "gifts" grant him the ability to see things from a whole new perspective, as he steps into the mantle of Muad'Dib.

Put your right hand in the box. What's in the box? Pain. Stop. Put your hand in the box. I ordered your neck to go in your box. It's not fear. Fear is the mind killer.

And fear is the death that brings total restoration. I will face my fear. I will make it to pass over me and come here. But you will die before these eyes and they'll know. They'll know that it is I. And follow me, heart-tonguing, with your presence. The Sleeper Awakens Are you recording now?

Yes. Are we ready to do it? Are we ready to commence? Yes. My fucking little droogie. That fuck requires I even what we're doing. You're my plaything today. You're my sweet little rambunctious plaything that I saved from a river today. Why was I in a river?

Because you were lost. And you ended up in the middle of a river. I don't know how you got there. I tried to fjord a river in this scenario. You did it. It got lost in a river. Now you're a soggy little boy. I am soggy, but not because I was in that river.

But my name's God Emperor Henry Ziprowski. You're my useless appendage. Hold him, MacNeely. No, no, no. You're not my useless appendage. You're my Sam-brained lizard turd. Hold him, MacNeely. That's a fremen curse.

I've been called a lot of things with words I could never say on this podcast. I couldn't even say on this podcast 10 years ago. I couldn't say the things I've been called. But that deserved each one. Deserved each statement. The last time we left our heroes, they were being spit out of a storm into the desert. Now we're now covering essentially what is within Dune, there are three books. We had a fun discussion and an actual total misunderstanding before the podcast because

I kept referring to book three. And then Holden's like, whoa, we're not even here on Dune. I am close to the children of Dune. No, no, but there are three books within Dune itself. Isn't that fun? Isn't that hilarious and fun? Everyone loves it. So book two.

By the way, you just did the thing I make fun of my mom for doing, where she describes things as fun that aren't fun. Always. She'll be like, oh, that's a fun hat or like, that's a fun porch ornament. You know what I mean? Meanwhile, it's like, it's just like, it's a mermaid mom. It's just normal. That's a chicken.

It's like, what is this? It's a glass chicken. Sure. That's. I don't think you've had fun in 20 years, mom. I just wish your father would press me on one more time. All right. Can we please leave?

I don't know why I gave her that. Why? Yeah. Why is it hot in this scenario? Not fucking old, you know, prospectors. I don't know how they made you. So my dad was a corporate lawyer. So book two of Dune is the middle area, right?

Obviously it's the middles between one and three. But what we're seeing here is because this oddly lines up with the all of the awful reading I had to do for Alistair Crowley for last podcast and not awful, but I mean, just mentally straining, right? Very, very difficult reading. Yes. And a part of what he talks about in Libra for Libra Abba, I say he has this, this statement, which I've thought about a number of times, which is every one of the famous prophets

are like the central prophets of the biggest religions in the world, Mohammed, Jesus. There's always a period of time where they talk about their boyhood and everybody knows they come from a certain type of boyhood, like Mohammed was a prince, Jesus, who's fake was born in a manger, like that story of the humble beginnings. But they always have a middle period where they go away. And what you find out is that they go away and they come back. The Buddha, the Buddha went off to be an ascetic because he was also born in royalty with everything.

We want to get rid of all this money so we can figure out what to do with all the possessions so we could have that humble kind of, and then he found the middle way, which is by the way, bringing a Buddhism is not out of question here. It is not. There's not a lot of Frank Herbert, Herbert, right? Yep. You're still in it. I was going to say Hubbard.

Oh, it's getting close buddy. It is close. He was very inspired by Zen Buddhism actually, which is the number one type of Buddhism that came to America initially. My dad was really into Zen as well. The light weekend Buddhism, not like the full shave your head, go away Buddhism, but some people do do that here in America. And the Buddhism that is full of paradoxes, and I know this is, we're bringing this up

quite early, but like the paradox is tantamount in Dune. Yes. It's cross ideas, things fighting against each other, different versions of the same stories all playing against each other, kind of all show, you have all of these forces, all of them thinking they know what's best for humankind. And I use the word tantamount correctly, I just realized I don't even think I know what that means. I thought tantamount was a set of breasts put on a wooden plank.

I'm pretty sure that's what it is. So book two is Paul in his trip of going away. So he's going to go to the desert. Last time we found them, they made their way through this desert storm and not the three day war. Do you remember that? We watched on TV. No.

I'm sorry. The first desert storm. Yes, desert storm, operation desert. And then Paul is now, he made his way, right? So what he said right before he went to the storm is that he had kind of like, we saw, he had met with Lee at Keynes. He saw all of this shit in his mind. He's starting to understand he's Prussian.

He goes into the desert storm, he shits out of the desert storm by writing a vortex up and out of it as the Fremen have been doing since time immemorial, right? And the noise he made as he came out. Jessica actually puts it succinctly is that when they land, she said, oh, we actually just live the litany of fear. Like that's the purpose of the litany of fear. We start to see it actually come to life where she said they walked into, they faced something was really scary.

They went all the way through it and when they turned around, the storm was gone. Now we're here. We're in book two. And Paul at the very beginning, because I wanted to talk about this last episode, but I forgot, Paul talks about two paths at the very beginning of book two. Oh wow, which is very interesting when you think the word path is becomes much more important as the series goes. Absolutely.

But there are two paths. There's one where he joins up with the Harkonnins. He has his vision in his head where he's going to go and give himself over to the Harkonnins, join the families like the Benny Jester always wanted him to do. That's what I was going to say, like the Benny Jester wanted. Yes, but then he also sees this other way, which is the way of the Jihad, but he does not know what that means yet. He sees this vision of the Atreides flag flying and an endless Jihad going and he decides

he realizes what he calls himself is a seed. And this is when we get the famous where he sits there and he's like, the sleeper has awoken because now he's fucking, he's ready to go. He understands that seed is, to use the sound effect again, is getting pushed into the fucking glee. I don't like that sound effect. Yes. And he is going to form a theocracy.

That's kind of one of the, like a part of his scenario is that you're going to find out is that he's essentially going to create a fucking, oh, he's going to create a fucking greater religious dictatorship with him at the very top of it. And he sees it when he's a little kid first entering into the desert because his Jihad is very different than the Butlerian Jihad. Right. Because the Butlerian Jihad was a man versus robot. We got to get these robots out of office.

Out of office. Yeah. You're stuck in offices. I'm sick of Clippy. Clippy just told me he's going to fuck my wife. C-1402 just passed the anti-abortion bill. Oh, he fucking shit. Yeah.

He doesn't even understand what it is. And now we know Paul's seeing these settings for the first time. So they're in the desert and he has no clue what to do. They have, they have very little desert training, but he's somehow instinctively knows through prescience. This is how we use the thing called the Thumper. They're stuck in the deep desert. The Thumper is this thing you stick on the sand and it goes bump, bump, bump, bump, bump.

And it tracks the sandworm so that you can then safely pass through the desert using the natural movements. So you go slide, step, step, step, slide, step, step, step, slide. And they have to do that for four kilometers as they watch this giant sandworm. And he has this moment when he sees it where he, like he feels instant fear, but somewhere deep in his memory, he's like, that's not a fearful thing. That is God. Like that's a thing I'm supposed to honor, but he doesn't quite understand it.

But he also, now he's starting to see, oh, this thing's also has something deeply connected to the spice. And he doesn't even know at this point that the Freeman worshipped the worm. No clue. The Freeman worshipped the worm. And also, I want to connect this really quick. You're talking about him leading this jihad and all this kind of stuff. I just want to remind essentially our audience of the Missionaria Protectiva that perfectly

set him up to become this chosen one leader of this religion, because the Bene Gesserit implanted this idea of a Neo coming to them at some point. And that was them doing that, setting up myths and legends in their community in order to pull the puppet strings like they've been trying to do. And again, Paul's going to essentially use this against them and defy them eventually by being able to just slide in as Mr. Neo. You say defy, but then you also see that they also found their points. Because I was also, I was looking up the definition of jihad, because they also talk about in

Islam, that part of jihad is there's also an internal struggle. There's an internal struggle to believe, right? That is like one of these things. So what you're going to see is that the Fremen, is it a blessing or a curse to make every one of your beliefs come to life and come real? And also, do you believe in life after love? Love, love, love, love, after love. Shared it.

Yeah. She keeps on keeping on. She's been fucking slamming them down after love. Moved. Toast, Sonny. Dude, she got so much fucking. Oh, yeah. I watched it.

I watched it from outside of her home. I watched it through her big, big windows. So they managed, they're stuck in the desert, and they got to make their way through. Jessica immediately gets stuck in a big sand crevasse, right, where she gets stuck down. But she goes into this like, she can go in an immediate coma, which would not be honestly be nice right now. Yes. If you could just go into a coma.

Anytime. She can drop in, so he digs her out. But it's this, they sit there, and Jessica, again, is starting to get scared of her son. Because she's like, he's very capable. And again, the reason why they have Timothée, Shyamalanma Dengdong playing him in the movie, he's supposed to be 15 years old. Like he's an actual child. So they make their way through the desert.

You have like a couple, like this is like a fun action scenario. They're in there. And finally, it's hard to describe. It's like, I want to read the book. In Syria, two people walking through the desert. But there's like action, because they have to run away from the worm, and he sees it for the first time. The worm opens up to the cave hole that they're in, and he sees all the Chris Knife teeth

inside of it. And he's like, that's pretty fucking cool. And so they finally, they stop to rest for the night, and they're discovered by Stilgar. Now we've already met Stilgar. They already know who Stilgar is. These dudes creep up on these motherfuckers. So they are, they sleep, they wake up, all of a sudden hear that, Fremen are everywhere. This is the first time we're really going to see, like, but while now we've seen them

blow up some motherfuckers, these guys, like, wow, just somewhere between just desert Jedi's slash, like, I don't know how to describe them. These are like the ultimate B team to ever exist. And Stilgar is very confident when he meets them, because he's like, obviously we got these essentially, it's like we got these white people in a fucking trap, we're going to fucking kill them. They're just going to take their water because we know Paul essentially, they sent a message out.

Like they got that little bat. That's all I wanted to talk about. I forgot about last episode. It's like when Thufir Hawat was like hiding with the Fremen, and he's like, we must get the message out to the rest of the CH. And he takes out like this little capsule, it's like a little tube, and he opens it up and he pulls out a tiny bat, and the bat goes like, and he just goes like, and he speaks the fucking Chopska at the bat.

That's their language, Chopska. And then he throws it out and he goes, and he's like, that won't be sad. That was the last best bat we've ever had. Like he was so excited. He was so emotionally connected to the bat. The bat arrives. I love, I love tuna. This is so, but this is so much better than reading the books for the cinema.

For a second, I was like, oh, Henry should just do a full retell it like his own version of. I'm like, oh, that's what we're doing. That is what we're doing. The bat came them and told them, you got to save Paul. Paul's alive. The Duke's son's alive. The duchy is still active on Arrakis and you guys got to get ahold of him.

So they see Paul, but then they look at the mom and they're like, honestly, straight up. He's like, the Fremen, you know, we don't know what to do with you. I think we're going to have to kill you. She immediately shows her worth. So she does this because, I mean, first of all, the way to describe Jessica, Frank Herbert's just so fucking horny. He's just so in love with her. And she does the thing where she, she tried, she was like, I'm not going to use voice against

him because I don't want to take away his agency because he's too worth too much to be compromised. So you're already just like, I can beat these people. Like I don't know how they have this confidence, but they are very, the many just for it. And people on Caledon, just in the fucking general are very, very confident. And so Silgar comes down and it's like, all right, we're going to have to kill him because he has these like moves, right? Because the Fremen are real fuck vast.

They don't fuck around. And so they're not like, when I love them at the Fremen, they're not the people that expound dramatically about all the things they can do and then kill you. They just fucking stab you in the throat. Yeah, they just take you out. They get you in the crosshairs and take you out. They take you out. Jessica, he comes in fucking flips all around him, right?

It's the fucking coolest. No dude movie has done the scene correct. No one's done it correct. He comes, got the fucking knife to his throat. Jessica's just like, oh fuck, what the fuck? But Silgar, because he's a cool motherfucker. So like Paul, he sees what his mom's doing because like the Benny Jesterit, they always put it this way.

They could tell, they do everything by going like, like just doing mouth movements at each other and they're like, my mother told me to dodge to the right and then move quickly to the left, knowing that James, he can only attack from the right. Like they say this like random ass shit. So James, who we're going to meet, hot head, he's like, we have to kill him. We have to take that water. And so James comes right for Paul. Fucking all 95 pounds soaking wet to him, Timothy, Shyamalan, and Ding Dong.

He rolls into a thing, punches him right above his dick and then scurries up the mountain. Jessica has total control of Silgar and meanwhile, Silgar, he's just popping a bone for it. Because he goes, ha ha, if I knew that you were skilled in the weirding way, you would be worth 10 times all weight in water. And so they go, they have this moment, we're like, whoa. Because now he's saying this term the weirding way. Yes. You've never heard before the weirding fighting style.

And Jessica's also not heard everything. And Jessica, she thinks she's got all her own technique. She's got her own fucking style, essentially. And that's what's going to be this beautiful merging this fucking sex between these two different fighting techniques going to make you unstoppable. Perfect member of the unstoppable Jihad. So what makes the weirding way the weirding way? I don't know.

The Bene Gesserit have their style of what they call like the Pranubindu training, which is like nerve training. And they have high powers of observation, but also they are very physically disciplined. They are trained to fight and do political maneuvers. The Bene Gesserit are incredibly dangerous. But Silgar calls this thing the weirding way, which is just, it seems like they're psychic, which is why this slur of witches are always thrown around. And essentially what they say is that we can understand more about you from you just walking

around than you telling me anything about yourself. And it also, I think what the main thing about it too is that it essentially allows you, with the weirding way, it almost gives an impersonation impression that you're teleporting through space. Yes. Because you can essentially like know exactly where you're going to be at a certain point and your speed and your movement is so swift and amazing. That's how he's like right behind her before she can even realize it.

Yes. She slips, she slips around him and he immediately sees, okay, first of all, we know our legend says that a boy king is going to come and be the dude that is going to help Fremen essentially get dude. Like we'll go a little bit farther into this now, but the Fremen, they want Dune for themselves. They want Arrakis for themselves. And Jessica immediately knows, it's like, what we'll do here is I won't kill you. I won't kill, because I could kill all you motherfuckers.

Yeah. He's like, but I won't kill you. We're going to blend our tribes together. I'm going to teach you guys the weirding way. I'm going to make you guys unstoppable because the way that Fremen work is that anybody who bests the boss is the boss. You have to do all of these like, there's a lot of official rules in Fremen society, which is interesting for a very free like mountain people.

There's a lot of rules. And so one of those rules are it's like technically she's now the leader of his siege, but because she didn't officially challenge him, she's not. But now everybody kind of sees she can kill any one of us if she wants to. And she's saying, I'm going to give you these tools. Right. I think, all right, I will say, I think I know why there's a lot of rules is because more so than anything else, these people have a minute to minute survival issue.

Yes. So that is why there's so much structure. Very, very intense. And they're on a long term goal. But now Paul, so he's feeling really confident because he punched James in the dick. And James was this fucking hot shot dude that everybody was fucking trying to suck beyond, right? He was the hot new realness of the Fremen group.

But guess what? When he scrolls up the thing, guess what he is? He's been like, there's no way I would ever allow you to hurt anyone, hurt my father or hurt anyone in my siege. And he looks up and what does he see? This chick, Channy. Channy is, let's just say Channy is this slick hot, hot dime piece, bro. I guess so.

And so she comes in somebody's a nine. A nine. A nine. Solid nine. So she, Paul realizes, oh, this chick could have killed me this whole time because she was like hidden above him in a thing and she had, but he also sees it and he sees the butt and he sees her face. And he first goes, what are these feelings?

I have never once had this protrusion. But then also at the same time, he's like, oh, I know that girl from my memories. Like that's the first connection who's like, oh shit. I've seen all of this before. I know her. I know these people. And I kind of know how all of this is going to go down. But we're also going to see Paul is starting to become a little bit of a dickhead because

he does not like jokes because what happened is they relinquish the hostage situation. They're like, okay, we're going to go back to the siege. And now we're going to begin Paul's actual training or even though he's been trained his whole life, now we're really going to see, we're going to teach him how to be one of the desert. Why do they bring them in just because they see the potential in their strength? The weirding way is going to be taught. They're going to get that.

They're going to get Benny Jesser at training and they made a promise. So you trade. Yes. Okay. Basically they said, having Paul, because again, they're kind of into the idea that he's the Lisa on Al-Gaib. He is their version of the Quetzacharach. Yes.

Like they think that he's going to be that, but they're not quite certain. Some people are more hesitant than others. Pilgar just liked the cut of Paul's father's jib so much and he saw the same thing come out of Paul's mouth. So Paul's already talking like an adult man and he has this thing and he's like, you're barely a child. You're more of them. So they start calling him a man child, which he gets really mad at where he's like, my

name is Paul. And you're going to be like, all right, Paul, listen, these guys, they all could, if they all get together, they could kill you. I still get called man child. You are upset. Absolutely. I was in VR last night. That's what I was doing for my time.

I'm a bully eggplant. So they will go back to the CH and the problem is that James is really mad because he got punched in the dick by 15 year old and he is a badass. And so you're like, fuck it, we're doing a duel to the death. They have to do these with this ritual thing. He's like, I'm calling him out. One of the tests, basically you find out there's like a bunch of tests that I guess they've all been waiting for for this to happen that we will know the least on Al-Gaib is here.

If his mother can pass a test and if he can pass a test. So one of the first tests is that the mother's champion has to best a champion of the Fremen and James decides to say, I'm calling it, I'm pulling the trigger. I need to fight. If you don't have, if you're not going to fight the mother, I'm going to fight your champion, which is your son. You brought him. Right.

So 15 year old little fucking boy and his little loincloth, they strip him down all the silk. They're fucking still suits. Ooh, ooh, ooh. It's me versus you. Yeah, yeah. He's coming in. He's coming in.

And that's just making the guys. Oh, yeah. Stop doing that. Oh, yeah. Take this. We are minutes. Push, in the bush. Don't push my bush.

In the bush. Do not push my bush. And so he gets his Chris knife. And you know, because the thing, I'll put this time, honestly, even me too, you're reading this and he's like, he's a little kid, you know, and yeah, he can kick some ass, but you know, what can he do against these like rugged warriors? But Jessica looks at him and she sees him start to like weigh the Chris knife and swipe it all around, like get ready to go, right, which is made from the tooth of a sand worm

and it's very, very sacred to the Fremen, right, because it falls apart without human contact. Like it has to be up against your skin for it to stay together and you have to blood it. Right. It's pretty fucking sweet. And so he's like, Chani's already given him inside information, even though I don't know why she's immediately, but she's kind of negative.

Yeah. Right. Like she's got calling a man. Yeah. Stop it. Oh, I'm the Duke. Stop. She's like, yeah.

She's like, wow, your laughs so weird. I think your laughs like really weird. Stop it. Stop talking about my laugh. And so they get into this fight, but Jessica has this like vision and she sat there and watching him fight and she realizes, oh, my son's a killing machine. Like and we not only is my son a killing machine by whatever his talents are, we did this. Like we made him this.

And so Paul, they fight to the death, right, Paul, who is used to shield fighting was on shield fighting, the whole thing is that you're supposed to defend fast, but attack slow because a knife has to be wielded slow to move its way through a shield and stab somebody, right? And but so he's kind of off. So the all of Fremen, all of Fremen think that he's like toying with James because he keeps getting the upper hand on him, but he won't do the killing strike. No one wants to believe that he hasn't killed before. So finally he kills James.

Everyone's really mad. And so because they think that he was like fucking with James and James was like the next in line to be the head of the ZH. But there's this like moment where after he kills James where Jessica, she's so scared of her son immediately again, she's immediately scared of being like, but she's also kind of makes me mad. We're like, all right, you did this. But she says this sentence, she basically says, as he kills, she goes, well, how does

it feel to be a killer now? And Paul's immediately all fucked up because he has to basically come out and say, I've never killed anybody before, and they're all like, oh, wow, that's the craziest shit we've ever seen. And we're just going to have to do that. I guess that first test has been passed. That Paul is ready to go. Essentially that part in Teen Wolf when he turns into the werewolf on the basketball

court, and there's this big moment of silence. And then the ref inexplicably just goes, play ball, and then they just start playing basketball. Literally the same things and everybody loves it. There was like, okay, you can't kill. And so they go back to this yetch. It's like now, second, because there's not wasting any time. This is the next fucking test. Shot is to eye in that fucking dime piece.

Me! She's like, Jessica, Nora, likey. You've never killed, I've never fucking slammed down a 15-year-old, so we got something common with never. And still Gar keeps like winking, being like, mm, mm, fucking, you fucking, you can point to these cave paintings, there's just two needles. See, this is a menu. There's butt fuck there and there's, you could do any sorts of these fucks.

And so he has to go through another test immediately. They're sitting there and they're trying to, they have to go to the funeral, right? So the funeral, they turn James into water because, and then the water has to belong to Paul because anybody who kills somebody, basically because they exerted so much sweat in the fight, you then get the weight of the, the weight of the water from the person that you killed in order to sort of get your water back, right? So he feels very awkward about it. He has no clue how to do it because they're just improvising.

Every single time they're trying to figure out what the Fremen want because they keep saying there's these tests, but then they kind of just have to figure it on their own. And so what happens to Jessica is she knows they're waiting for some kind of sign, right? So she sits and she has this moment where she's looking at still Gar and there's a thing called the adab happens, which is this persistent memory that comes from the generations of being a member of the Bene Gesserit, where you can see lines in your brain, like it's this kind of like inner bound memory. And she knows the missionary protectiva dropped hints into this society of what the hell it

is that I'm supposed to do next. And she just randomly just starts kind of like tripping balls a little bit. And she starts randomly saying this prayer that turns out to be one of the most sacred prayers that the Fremen have ever had. But that's a prayer that the Bene Gesserit wrote for them to say to the Fremen later on to find a safe place within the Fremen. So she starts to say this thing and they're all like, oh, like she's like, oh, I fucking she is the one.

It's kind of like, um, remember that song, I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother. There's nowhere I go that I don't think about that song. I do not feel the same, I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing, I'm an idiot, I wanted, I wanted, I don't worry. And now you have it. And now I have it. I'm talking about the fucking, the people listening.

Oh, okay. Now they have it too. Jessica, she sees this shit, she says as everybody's impressed, Paul goes to the funeral, he's got to figure out what to do with the funeral because they're all like, I guess they decided no one's going to tell you. This is the one thing about the Fremen that, um, I love them to death, but they like want you to guess how everything works, like no one wants to tell you. Just so annoying.

You're just like, I get it. It's like so safe. But like just give me a planter or give me something to do or how do I fucking wrap my head around this ceremony? Paul goes in, he looks at other people. They're all like saying like, I was a friend of Jamas. And they, you know, saying something that they knew about him, but he didn't know, but he saw a ballast set there, right?

And so he knows the ballast set from Gurney Halleck. And then something happens where he goes, I was a friend of Jamas. His death allowed me, he understood, I knew, I knew, he taught me what it was to kill and I'll never forget. Like, like they say, they're like, I took the juice from Jamas and I, I call it my Jamas juice, my Jamas juice, so he goes, he cries, it's dumb, I apologize. He sees the, he cries, right? And they're all like, water for the dead, because nobody be crying in Fremen culture,

right? Because every single drop of water is so important. But don't you feel like crying from a therapist standpoint, don't you feel like that's problematic to a certain degree? I mean, shouldn't people be allowed to emote and shouldn't their emotions be accepted in a culture? You're fucking weak. I get it.

Never cry. Never cry. I don't have time for crying. Only death, only rolling over everyone. I'm more like Bitty Hillster. Am I right? I'm sorry, I apologize for these bad. What are we going to do?

This is the show. So again, he kills, but so everyone's again, he figures out, he's like, so I'm going to play the ballast set. He pulls up the ballast set, but what does he do with this fucking ballast set? This fucking thing. He starts playing a love song to Chani. And Jessica is like, what is this shit? Like, which is interesting because it's kind of like internalized misogyny on Jessica's

part. And she even says it later on. She's like, Chani, that's no, that's no wife of a Duke. That's no wife of a, that's some Fremen rabble. She's like, that ain't no Duke wife. That's a Dookie wife. That's a Dookie wife. Yeah, he's rough.

She realizes immediately like, oh, I did the same shit. Everyone says I was never supposed to be the fit to be the, I am literally putting, I'm doing mommy psychology on this woman. I immediately, she immediately hates Chani. So they get through these tests. So they finally give Paul some food, right? Cause they haven't had any fucking food. Think about these Fremen.

They're eating pure ass spice. And when they eat this stuff, it's, it was like, thing we describe it was a wrap, a leaf wrap of rice, some kind of grain with spice just in it with some kind of bird meat in it, right? And he ate it and he starts tripping fucking balls. And this is his first interaction with the spice. This is the second, second time delving into prescience. And this time he understands that he starts to have more of control a little bit more

now than he did before where he's starting to see a little bit more. How he can navigate his way through prescience. But he has this moment where he keeps seeing himself dead, stabbed to death. Like there's all of these, he sees every single way, like it, it's really very scary for him. And he, he starts to, to know like, Oh, we're all heading towards this massive war. And that the front of the war at the front of the head tribe isn't a tradies flag tattered covered in blood. Right?

We're going to be killing a lot of people. But again, what I love about the prescience scenes is that in my mind, it's going to book five, book two, yeah, the ballerina and jihad. He's seeing like every second you said that. Yeah. The second you said that I started thinking of Paul and book three, you know what I mean? And I'm trying to figure out what, when this, when, but, but this is a path he's trying to avoid this fourth site, right?

He's trying to get away from, but he ain't gonna. Yeah. Fucking ain't gonna. I do want to immediately talk. So let's take a little break from the middle of this yetch to the death of liette Keynes. So liette Keynes, the ecologist, he was the, they basically, but completely, he fell in love with the atreides family and he helped Paul escape. But now they, the harkens have punished him and they've dropped him off into his precious

desert for his desert to consume him. And what you have is this, the scene where he's going through the desert and he sees his father, who his father was the ecologist before him, Ferdinand, and he reveals the whole plan that they realized that all they have to do is something like 3% of the planet that all we need to do is change 3% of the planet and we will terraform the, all of Doracus and make it have active water and plants and we will take it away from being a desert planet and we will create a separate area for where the spice can be created by the sandworms. But I find it interesting, so there's all of these baby gods in doom where liette Keynes

have become sort of a pseudo god slash king to the fremen. They've looked up to him because also Johnny's liette's daughter. And so because he's fully in the lifestyle, but there's something about the long view that all of these other people have for Arrakis that don't pertain to the fremen or anybody else. It's like everybody's got an idea of what they want to happen to Arrakis or an idea of how to control society, how to control the path of all humankind, but none of them understand that this quitsack hatarach is going to destroy everybody's plants.

Which I find, there's something about it that was like really haunting to me, it's like I sat down and I realized I was like, all of these motherfuckers think they know what's best. They all do and eventually Paul will fall to the same problem where he thinks he knows what's best. That's when we bring it back to our reality, right? Is that not the case for all of your parents, for everybody? You know what I mean?

Yeah, and what you could say honestly though is that Arrakis is going to Arrakis and there's nothing you can do to change it and the fremen understand that more than anybody else. Only these other people who have games. You gotta give it up, which is why they worship the sandworm, maybe the most chaotic force and everyone's life is what is being worshiped as a god by these people. Well, you'll find out is that they have a very harmonious relationship. So after the funeral, they're back in and they go into this big cavern that is just filled with water.

And Silgars like, we have thousands of these and one day, I mean won't be our children or their children or their children or the grandfather of those children. But one day, this water will change this entire planet. And Paul was like, this was up. And that's the same thing honestly in modern day is like when the dad brings their son down and shows him the bins and bins of beanie babies and he's like, of course, today these are all mean nothing worthless comrades, but in 20 years, you will be a millionaire with a steady meanwhile cut to me in Florida in my parents garage with the two giant bins

of beanie babies. It's been like these are literally just filled with rat shit. This is nothing now and you're all of your work. You did means exactly Thomas look, it's a princess die band. He's just from one princess die die. I'm shooting a hole through your television with a gun so that you can never go on a shopping network channel ever again. You're killing me, mom, you're fucking killing me, mom.

But one thing about the visions that I thought was finally interesting, I looked up because he described it because Frank Herbert throws terms into the book that come to Paul that you know that are only like they're like earth terms that he now is working on that you will know later on in the series that we do come to the earth as we know as we talked about, you know, we existed in doing world. And so he calls it the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which is that's how we've used the future of the world. He basically now that he's starting to trip balls more and more regularly, he starts

to realize like every breath I take changes the future. Every movement I do changes the future. Every single thing I see at branch every little literally every movement I do. And I'll be watching you. Biggie man. I'll miss you. Biggie. We all do.

We miss you. We miss you. Come back. Come back. Come back. Come back. I'm so mad. You took it to the to the Biggie song, but that was a sample, of course, from a yeah,

other song. Let's do it. Everybody's got a stalker, actually. Yeah, which is sting. Sting. In Dune. Yeah. Brought it back around.

Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course.

Prepare for this idea, right, the idea that all it's very difficult to see. Is it real? It's in? It's real. Is in a real? Yeah, it's a real term, but it's about the idea that you it's very hard to pin down actual locations of things in quantum physics, which is kind of what he talked about, how everything is just moving and moving and moving.

Paul's immediately bitter. Because it's weird. I get it because he did not choose to be the quitsack cataract. Right. And now he's starting to see, uh, fuck. if I'm the only person who can see the future because I'm honestly kind of a self-important little prince boy now I'm gonna take this burden this terrible purpose on to me yes now it's my it's me it's I did this and there was a point

where he looks at Jessica and he says you are my enemy like in his mind after being tripping balls because this is the thing because now you have your son because it's I guess it must be sort of like watching your child go through puberty except it's becoming the prophet but also I would say it there's always a point in a mushroom trip where you're hanging out with your buddy and you look at them as the enemy and you think should I kill this guy do we do a test of Wilson I do we grappled I don't know but he views her he's been like you did this to me mother you made me you made me this weapon and she calls him a

weapon as well which I also think is interesting because the two of them don't sound like guess who Baron Harkinen who also calls people weapons do they know yet they do know yeah they know now but that Jessica cuz is spawn of Harkinen yes but Harkinen like everything else which I think Paul's also gonna reflect later on cuz you know I might one my favorite quotes from him where he was just like I guess we are predators beast ruban predators are always hungry and always thirsty which is again rewatching doing the movie which I don't do right now if you're reading the books don't do it cuz you're gonna

be very disappointed because it's just Baron Harkinen in the movie floating to the ceiling going where they're in the book Harkinen is like a very worthy adversary to the atreides right but we're gonna find out he ain't shit when it comes down to being more deep because now Paul you gotta have you got a fucking name yourself because everyone's gonna have new names I'm gonna be killed James because the first thing that they look at and they be like your name now is Usul the base of the pillow usual strength and he's like I want to choose a name of my own they're like okay what's up because I don't like mr.

Brown it sounds like mr. shit that's not going to be mr. blonde and mr. blue oh Quentin Tarantino he should have directed doing yeah great but he Paul he's like what's the name of the mouse that runs through the desert which he knows is called Maudib but he wants to see them complete the circle where they go like more deep he is most are we call him the children teacher and he was like I would like to be called more deep but in accordance with my father because now he knows in the profits where he this first steps of like okay I can control I can control fate here I am going to change one thing I know they

called me more deep but here he's like in remembrance of my father I want to be called Paul more deep which is weird but at the same time he thought that this will be my first step to creating the future on my own and still goes like whatever Paul more deep and they're all excited and they do the whole like because you know in if this was 1987 they'd play like you remember like in Star Wars the cantina music like it would be like that we're like people would be drums and like fights and I don't know what fremen play I think they have the ballast set yeah which is and just one guy just like beating another man's butt yeah I

was gonna say yeah I think they play their own knees to yeah yeah like this isn't on any time signature this means this is bad music I'm just gonna go and throw it out celebration is like mumble wrap that celebration love these fremen but guess what man that's not the last fucking test can't get out of the fucking desert until you do a another test freestyle rap competition you like fucking oh man never let it go no more no more to stop in a stand to block got one chance got one shot yeah yeah that's go I love none of what you said rhyme sir so we're gonna have to ask you to go back into the desert I just can't

go home my grandma abuses me so they one last test right because they've been calling Jessica this whole time the Sayadina which is their version of a reverend mother which is also was given to them by a Benny Jester it many millennia ago okay can you I've been thinking about this a lot can you explain to me how there's a reverend mother in the freemen even though the Bennett guest or it are like trying to manipulate any Jester it either way or trying to manipulate it trying to manipulate them how does a reverend mother exist in the tribe of people that are are the is she connected to the

Bennett Jester it or she oh yeah her own kind of reverend mother does she know about okay does she know about Missionaria protective oh yeah buddy no no no she's in she's a double agent okay and she has been that explains and she is a part of a series of double agents that have been going on for millennia fremen don't understand these wonderful people and that's only like upon this reading I have a lot less sympathy for Paul and way more sympathy for the fremen right because the fremen so woke what I know me it's me brah but the fremen they've just been endlessly game dude and they don't know they don't know

because the Sayadina that they have is essentially Benny Jester it yeah and was placed in there a long time ago and they have to basically now prove that Jessica can become their Sayadina because that's a part of the lore right is that the mother will become the new Sayadina Paul will eventually rise to relieve their armies and so they do the ritual where they get the water of life here we go which is essentially a poison full of spice right the old reverend mother is brought out in a fucking tray right she gets laid down there and she they see each other they like do the wink they do a little Benny Jester it

like this one little piece factoid I thought was interesting the water of life is distinct from the just pure spice it is the toxic liquid exhalation of a drowning sandworm they basically put a bunch of little baby sandworms in a pool and they die and then they take that water and then they drink it and so what a real Sayadina can do is drink it and then transmute the poison inside of their bodies to make it not a poison anymore and then what happens is that the next reverend the last reverend mother that is about to the goal is you're supposed to replace a reverend mother when that reverend mother dies

that reverend mother then while you're tripping balls passes the memories on to you yes so then you become interconnected to the memories of every reverend mother that's ever been female only though well none of them that's why there's the quitsack had a right because there's never been a male Benny Jester it Paul's the only male Benny Jester it that exists right they so but all of these people are now also calling them the least on Al-Gaib the one who shortens the path they're all say they're he's got like five titles any is it Lisa is it Lisa is it baby what's my name so what's my motherfucking name what so

he goes she drinks the water of life and of course no one was stuck with us because the one thing that they also knew I think we revealed last episode but she's pregnant with Paul sister and they're all like oh no you're not supposed to do this while you're pregnant because what happens is so when you drink the water of life you can't drink the water of life you're not allowed to eat sushi coffee you got your ankles well it was on the list she she got her OBGYN so I don't understand water of life clearly on there but what happens is that what that does is it opens both you and your daughter that

the inner baby inside a baby inside of you to prescience of all timelines which we're gonna find out later on is the they're very scared of this because it might cause a phenomena called abomination nation where the child now can possibly be open to all of these different past lives and we're not talking about when our last president was really popular that was Obama nation yep this is abomination abomination but it's very scary so it happens and she does it she fucking crushes it she passes it and she we understood immediately oh this is as a Betty just where we're not supposed to know the mysteries of

becoming a Reverend mother you're not supposed to know it until it happens to you right where you're chosen to become a Reverend mother and then in the instant that she did all of it she's like I guess I am this was it and now I am in an official Reverend mother I'm connected to all things it's fucking whatever dude I've already made all of these different ass decisions that I've already ruined everything and now we're just gonna deal with it we're gonna roll with it only our the Paul sister will not become an abomination but guess what so it passes through to change it everybody else gets to drink the water of life

now because she's changed it to not be poisoned right they're all going Lisa Al-Qa'ib Lisa Al-Qa'ib that's his new name yet one of his eight new names yeah he looked at his mother she appeared peacefully asleep in a sitting position her breathing even in deep a phrase out of the future that was his lonely past came into his mind she sleeps in the waters of life so he knows she's truck and tripping balls he all of his stuff he starts to see the deeper deeper into the future one side he sees the Imperium because now he's the path this is the last like little shot that shows the fucking path hardcore right one side he

could see the Imperium a Harkonnen called Fade Routha who flashed towards him like a deadly blade we know Fade Routha by the way really right yeah Sting who it was the is the boy evil dude well Beast Rebonne is now in charge of Dune right so Beast Rebonne is Baron Harkonnen's fucking most evil biggest fattest son right the one that's coming is destroying everything and he loves squeeze I want you to squeeze them and then fate what his goal is he's gonna devastate Arrakis but then bring in Fade Routha as a pleasure yeah I'll leave daddy I invented a single baseball tap somebody's hand meat I just got

bored but he loves his nephew in a way that some inappropriate yes because he wants to go to Poundtown Arizona of course he's like every yeah like we said didn't we say he was literally every network executive or studio executive yes yes yes you just want to lick them like I'm like I'm like I'm coming so Fade Routha who flashed towards him like a deadly blade the solder car raging off the planet to spread pogrom on Arrakis and guild conniving and plotting the Bene Gesserit with their scheme of selective breeding they lay masked like a thunderhead on his horizon held back by no more than the Fremen and their

mud deep the sleeping giant Fremen poised for their wild crusade across the universe and he knows he's at the very center he's at the very center and then he begins to cry begins to cry because he knows that this is just one tiny moment of peace and there almost never be he realizes this might be the last piece he'll ever experience that's what he says there's no other place for peace and so now he knows you're going to be in the war dog yeah and they're gonna be doing it fucking forever they're getting into the shit and by the way what Henry is referring to is books of no peace and no rest very little rest in

peace for anybody involved and yes he has he full is so Chani's fully courted in now too she's and all she's locked in dog book three that we're gonna get in through next week is we're just seeing essentially the superhero ending of how every dune book begins and every dune book begins with a hundred pages of action and then ends with a hundred pages of action but then in between we learn so much you know I always tell people and I could be wrong in this situation when people at first start reading dune and they say they're struggling with it or they're intimidated by getting into it I'm just

like dude just give it like 200 pages or whatever it is but really when you when I got to this part of it I'd say the most page ternary part of of the whole series is kind of coming up here in our next episode one of the most because it really does follow actual just page turner book becomes an action movie yeah the last action movie we're gonna go the fight's gonna happen is a bunch of war gonna happen I didn't even talk about Gurney Halleck and his trip with the fucking I wish you know what I want and I don't know if it is I have to look this up about whether or not there are stories just about Gurney Halleck who is

one of my favorite characters in the whole the whole book because he's just really like I don't know how it's a crucial brow how it's when he shows up it tries to kill Jessica right yeah if you want to spoil it yeah I do this is all part of the thing we're good to that but yes because he's convinced he hasn't done that yet I have my timelines a little switched up so he does that after they become fucking Super Saiyan essentially like he is going Super Saiyan right now so he has gone into the desert and he has done his trip a gurney okay yes he is now more deep right gurney you see him talk about he basically

finds out that they think that Jessica is the traitor which is what Thufir Howatt also thought that because Yui the only people who knew Yui was the traitor was Jessica Paul Duke Lido and Harkinen no one else knew so Jessica being the traitor is now the word throughout the entire fucking planet right so gurney technically is supposed to kill Jessica on site yeah when he sees her exactly but yeah that's seen with him with the smugglers where he's like hanging out with the smugglers it's such a fun like very Star Warsy kind of thing where it's like him hanging out with all these like rogue dudes where

they're like do you want to go off world or do you want to stay here and you want to kill Harkinen's with us and he says like you have my arm so sweet because he knew because they basically promised him come help us smuggle shit off the planet and we'll give you as much Harkinen blood as you could soak a hotdog bun in we're also gonna jump two years right yes yes in the timeline I think a lot of there's a lot of interesting things about not that there hasn't been interesting things going on but there's a lot there's it's like we jump two years and the tables begin to finally turn in the favor of our

Atreides tiny man I don't know though we'll find out next week I mean they definitely do I've read the book well he absolutely wins in a certain manner of saying you have to keep reading the book even if you know the ending because we're getting to it because remember doing one is just set up yeah so we started getting these philosophical philosophical conversations really nerdy shit say the word philosophical really it's gonna be a very fast oh it's gonna be great we're the guys everyone's looking to to explain yeah yeah we'll stop doing the cum jokes we'll only do sort of high-level thinking no no we're

bringing philosophy to the people with cum jokes that's called edutainment yes there you go yeah so we're making it palatable there you go by making it dollop I just and I'm also just gonna apologize for the all the puns I made this episode Benny Hill Sirrette was one we did I almost made a U.E. Bowl joke about that's weird doesn't make sense doctor I was gonna be like he went it went off to make bad movies I don't even know what that means um but thank you for joining us this week we'll be back next week with even more do what if we just did what if we did like Star Wars next week people be like I guess this is

the same and you're like no it's not Dune is actually more important than Star Wars yeah I said it is more important than Star Wars maybe not financially for all the massive entertainment companies because but yeah no Dune is more it's not knocking on Dune's door per se at this point they just they they are trying to make the movies but the problem is is that the books are too philosophical there's a lot of thoughts I want I do also want to mention to talk real quick right they they did remove they changed the word jihad right they didn't say jihad in the trailer and we're thinking that we

they will not be actually using that word just because of the way that I think the connotation of the more modern connotation of that word right didn't they just say something like religious war I don't like that I honestly I barely paid attention to the trailer because I don't like being spoiled right I don't like trailers anymore gotcha now I I tried to say I don't like them anymore I get it all right sometimes trailers the best part of version I know which is my sad that's sad all right I see by the way Lexi literally says her favorite part of going to the movies is the trailer I do like trailers in the

movie that blows me away though it's like what why I don't know what a backwards human being I'm married you put a child in this one that's right and will I give her the spice yes give it to the kid make her do the agony that's what I'm saying is they're like oh don't give a pregnant mother acid right or whatever but I think maybe it can work abomination all right so listen to all the other shows on the LPN network we have got last podcast and left wizard nebruiser page seven we've got able against hotbed we've got kind of fun no dog to miss all of them nice way to myself in this position I have to pump

oh my god upon this one get out there listen to him you didn't name all of them right or side oh yeah someplace underneath we all good because now we have other shows we got brand new shows someplace underneath yeah it's also there and also we got the new season no dogs in space fraudsters I don't know if you said fraudsters this is great this is by the way I like it thing about this past episode Henry was literally your Paul the network is the path you're trying to seek out you're trying to find the golden path for this wait till I fucking garb myself in a bunch of sandworm babies start with your exo

skeleton you just start coming it was like he can jump high now and I guess that's gonna get a fucking this one help me in pilot season all right we got to get out of here bless the maker bless the maker good work I'm now for a scene from dune theater we now join the Freemans CH leader still gar and his first meeting with a brand manager sup homies name Zazz and I'm here to flip the script on your traffic I'm gonna expand your global reach and highlight the ball and Freemans swag I asked the mutual the other day yo you ever get to every get down on some

fremen and he was like miss me with that dog and I was like oh that is not trill we fremen we live by the whims of the desert oh I love them where they had Coachella were they playing the sand Pellegrino Ted sand Pellegrino no we have to live in secrecy in the desert we must move as the desert creatures do not gain the attention of shy her loot oh okay and how many followers does he have is it Shia like the birth any man or a woman who's ever felt the rasp touch of the bled follows shy her loot okay so let me just crunch numbers click I'm gonna go click click click click click click click click I'm gonna do anything

I'm just moving my fingers but I'm pretty sure that that makes him micro regional interstate influencer do you know bomb us sox we could probably get a code for that like the wind socks that collect water so that we may terraform the planet may we use these socks to terraform the planet too is that would you mean I don't give a fuck what you'd do with those fucking socks Mind if I vape in here? It's Boo-Berry. Any waste of water is an insult to our ancestors. Wham.

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