Last Podcast On The Left - Orphan First Kill: An Interview with William Brent Bell

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Henry sits down with director, producer, and screenwriter William Brent Bell to discuss The Boy films, bringing back The Orphan in prequel form with the new film Orphan: First Kill, creepy kids, real ...life evil orphans, and MORE!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello ladies and gentlemen of the last podcast of the left patreon god, it's good to see you. I mean, I can't see you I can't really see anything. I have a blindfold on. I'm in an undisclosed location. This is Henry Zabrowski But you know who's not is my steam to guest Someone that is out here. I mean because he can't be in hiding because he is on a promotional tour And he's got he has to be out there. He's in for and they I'm certainly I'm certain he'd rather be asleep but No, but he's excited about the movie. No, I see the eagerness in his face. He's excited about the film We're gonna get into the meat of it
Starting point is 00:00:40 This is William Brent Bell the director of some of our favorite movies on side stories the last podcast We like we've talked about the boy sometimes where also has come up quite a bit Which I also it's a great movie. Um, but most importantly this your newest film orphan to first kill Which I'm very excited for I'm excited for the world to see. Thank you so much for being here William Brent Bell Thank you so much for having me and obviously you can call me Brent and It's for Googles Absolutely, and no, it's great to be here. You know, I don't really
Starting point is 00:01:18 Really want to be asleep, but no like being in front of out in front of things in a publicity ways Not necessarily, you know, where I usually am. I'm always behind the camera. So watching the girls watching Julie and Isabelle doing press this week, you know, I'm just like, ah, they make me look so bad That's their job and you have to be remember remember remember who made you orphan. Yeah, we say that to the actors. Yeah Yeah But it's been fun. It's already been fun. Can I ask you right? So number one, we'll get into the film I'm excited about this because it's a prequel because at first I was just like how we do in the sequel to Orphan because not against spoilers. Let's just say orphan doesn't fare very well at the end of the first movie
Starting point is 00:02:04 Her neck takes a turn for the worse. She gets what she deserves. Yeah. Oh, yeah Um, oh, yeah, but my question is man What do you have against children? You know, um, I Guess I just think that they're kind of up to no good kids kids remain pretty a lot of great really quiet You know, yes kids are wild but those ones are too obvious it's the quiet ones who I know hear everything and You know, I mean, I knew when I was a kid, you know
Starting point is 00:02:38 We are our strongest memories of things like movies are well before 10 and oh, yeah Yet yet adults look at a kid six to ten and you know They don't realize how smart kids are and I still remember How can I think we were as kids? I was a kid. I was very much so into everything that was spooky and dark But it also used to terrify me. So essentially, I mean, I would torture my parents Because all I'd want to see was whatever is the creepiest thing and they were like, oh Like and I'd read it too because my I started reading Stephen King when I was like 10 years old
Starting point is 00:03:14 Like and it was probably very it's far too young Yeah, yeah, yeah But I'm reading it. My mom did the thing. Well, at least he's reading Which doesn't know that I'm up all night like terrified by my own imagination. Yeah, I mean, but you know, I Been thinking about this a lot lately and um, I was terrified too and I saw movies way too young and it's what my parents did When as a product of divorce they sat me in front of the television and I ended up watching scary stuff My sister made sure I did she was like four and a half years older that perfect age where she hated me
Starting point is 00:03:50 But also kind of was torturing me by having me watch halloween and stuff as a kid But it's great and and so while I have these I have stronger memories about horror films before the age of 10 than I do about like my regular life Um, the house I was obsessed with movie house Oh, yeah, little boy and now I rewatch as an adult and I was like it's a very weird toned film, I mean There's there's a lot that we were allowed to watch that had very weird tones and books that were written back then like he said Stephen King, but I mean, you know best sellers back
Starting point is 00:04:29 Um in the late 60s and early 70s when you know such a heyday for horror also people were buying Jaws or you know the other or these amazing books that turned into horror films Um, it's not like that really necessarily more except for kind of the more straightforward Or like Stephen King or Peter Straub, you know Did you it's that how you found yourself into because you've directed a lot of horror Like do you feel that you are like because then I feel like some guys get a little bit like well, I'm I'm a director. I'm not a horror director, but do you feel that you're like a horror guy?
Starting point is 00:05:06 um And well, yeah, I mean some I mean I'm from Lexington, Kentucky. I'm always going to be from Lexington I'm a horror guy like it's just part of my DNA Some people because some guys get umbrage because I've had this we've talked with directors about this and sometimes you're like Well, I'm not a I'm a director, you know, and you're like no, I know but you've done only horror films They're all like but you wait until I do my final, you know rob zombie. I love him He wanted to do the hot the hockey comedy You know, I mean that he can't seem to get going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's it's
Starting point is 00:05:38 in between movies, um Sometimes more than others. It's like It'll always be like well, what's next and then they'll be like Some science never rom-coms or straight dramas. Yeah, but there'll be um science fiction ideas or you know things that are in the realm but not straight horror and um And then I just find myself gravitating right back towards horror and because to me Of course, it's such a wide spectrum of story styles that a lot of yeah, who aren't as familiar with horror And they have a preconceived notion in their mind of what they think it is and a community number of things. Usually it's
Starting point is 00:06:18 Either ghost stories or slashers like that's about all they kind of connected to but yeah, you know, it's so much more Oh, yeah, the genre especially in the last couple of years is really shown just how beautiful and varied the horror genre is Horror genre because you can like it can be drama at its highest order I just recently rewatched the witch to and then you like watch something like that and you're like And that's a historical drama because we're on last podcast We're doing the Salem witch trials and you see just how much work He put into that movie to make it like a real piece of history like a chapter
Starting point is 00:06:53 Talk in that old English style At first it's like what is this like if I don't get and then you're just okay I'm immersed in a world where people all talk this way and you have to you have to perk up and pay attention And to enjoy that movie and I know I've seen stuff where he's kind of ashamed of that movie or something Or I ever I was crazy. He said the same thing about the Northman too He also was trying to walk back to the Northman because he was like, oh, you know, it's an action movie and I was like, yes It is
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yes, it is. It's a wonderful But it's saying that he that he had trouble like I didn't know how to tell a story when I did the witch I was like you just need to come down Look at it again because you've told a brilliant story A beautiful story beautiful story. Yeah, do you do do the same as a director? Is that the thing like do you watch your own work? Like when you go like do you watch it afterwards? Do you like it still or you're like, I never want to see boy two again
Starting point is 00:07:51 Oh, that's good. That's a specific I love Brahms too. This is don't worry. You're about to get a series of boy questions I mean every movie, you know Ron Howard, I saw something where he said You know being a director every movie is going to break your heart at some point and it's really true But it's also kind of like I guess I don't have kids but that and I not that I won't but But you know movies are kind of like your kids like you can't really choose necessarily and I always know what the intentions were Or I know The behind the scenes or the politics
Starting point is 00:08:27 So so I look at a movie that I've done sometimes with rose-colored glasses Because I might not see it just the way a normal Public viewing audience would see it, you know, I've got yeah all the other scenes on my avid or I've got Oh, yeah You see the other all the movies it could have been you see all the different yeah, and um and something like the like Brahms in particular was one that That we've I've never had a situation where you know at the last second the studio came in and completely uh
Starting point is 00:09:02 Changed the movie sort of and really oh, yeah, and um, but That wasn't the only kind of problem with that movie But it was definitely the biggest problem because you know, yeah, I bet and it happens How does that process happen because it's like I do want to just talk about love of the boy I want to ask this but like in terms of that like because I've never made I like I've made Independent films. I've always been on the talent side of it versus like the creating part of it like and the editing So when you submit your film So is that idea is like when the when the studio comes and change everything like did you hand them like all right?
Starting point is 00:09:37 We're done Guys we did all over work Is it like that where you get a picture lock and you do all of your own sounds and posts Is all the posts done too by the time you send it to the network and then they just do whatever they want with it I mean, it's it's slightly different, you know, depending on the movie and and where it is Like and we may like the film I just did in london lord of misrule with ralphine sin from the witch, you know, um Man, he's on fire dude. He's on fire. What a fantastic actor the way to you see him in this movie because it's it's It's the most complete character since the witch. I mean, he's he's you know
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's a full character in the movie that but anyway, um You know that movie I'm locking picture this Next week or two And and finishing the sound mix and stuff like that But we haven't sold it to a distributor. So when the distributor comes on board They may crack the movie back open and you never know and and it's oh seriously They can do that like the distributor does that. Well, no, they do it with me and but oh, okay It's kind of like, you know, it's with every movie. It's like well now let's spend some more money on this
Starting point is 00:10:43 Or let's try this or have you thought about this and it usually is a good thing and um and sometimes You know, we go I go through the whole plot. It's not just my cut It's every cut I oversee and the sound mix and every aspect But in the case of that movie bombs in particular, um The company that was producing the film went bankrupt after 30 years making tons of move, you know, lake shore They made underworld they made Yeah, million dollar baby and million things and um and they just you know, it's just they were they were too big And uh, they went under so all of a sudden you had no producers and then the studio
Starting point is 00:11:21 Just kind of cracked it open and They're like we want to mix and changes because they thought my god and then you're and and you're like Basically, your production company daddy is gone exactly the person that was supposed to be cradling this through that person Who's probably it was? Yes. Yes. And so then after I watched it. I was like, have you guys seen what they did? No, actually, we've not seen seen it like we don't have like they're not involved anymore So it was just literally you never know when a movie can get tweaked in this huge long process And that's why I'm so paranoid all the time paying attention, you know I mean it was the same way devil inside was that way like there was a tweak
Starting point is 00:12:01 after a year of Beating up that movie and testing it so many times at the last second The president studio made a change that went down and you know kind of movie history as as a You know putting up that card at the end of the devil inside was a last second idea that the only thing we never tested in that movie and And he even you know told me later that you made a mistake He meant for that card to happen after the credits
Starting point is 00:12:27 But it was like you didn't say that and it was one of the last directives that the studio asked us to do Anyway, it is and then it just changes You know it can affect the whole oh the entire movie because the ending is one of the most important Parts of the movie because it's what the audience is the last thing they see And so it's the last memory they have of what it's it's difficult. I mean, I'm not complaining. It's just It's it's tricky. It's a lot. It's yeah, and especially if you're trying to do movies that Are going to be seen by a lot of people, you know, then you've got a lot more money Be involved in a lot more politics because people are very worried about that money and the marketing very much so
Starting point is 00:13:06 So then You know judgment and then you can have your whole 90 million dollar movie thrown on the trash for no reason that you worked on for a year And now it can just go away even Yeah, I already done. I mean, that's a shock. It's already I've been texting with every person. I know in the film industry that we're all like There's no way that's going to stick, you know, I mean, I feel like we've seen Lately especially and I don't think this is what they're doing, but there is, you know, where they'll send out kind of negative
Starting point is 00:13:37 You know, like, oh, we're going to be low in cherries this year for the, you know, uh food season And then everybody goes out wants to buy cherries, but it was like they were never going to be low on cherries So all of a sudden we're talking about that girl like it's the The must see it does work. No, it does work everyone. It's true But it's true because then everyone's like now I gotta see this movie And then you like and then we're all gonna sit there for the 95 minutes of a essentially a cw show and just be like Well, I'm glad How I feel is I'm just glad that everybody gets paid and everybody's work gets seen to me
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's like I just know that how many the most Talented artisans in the world get paid all of this money just have to work shelves I really do feel for the people making the costumes And all of that shit, you know, like I said, I really believe knock on wood in the system or whatever that that movie Can't be gone, you know, and you're gonna see all this crown swell and I don't understand why now, you know Like why you don't release it on hbomx, but yeah, it makes no sense It seems like it's a reader. It's you know, it's fascinating A roast as dark as the night
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Starting point is 00:15:26 But we actually just had this conversation on our show about the difference between Orph literally orphan and the boy about how that it's kind of like we it was a jokey conversation But the breakdown of like no one's an evil child turn adult movie One is a object treated as child Movie and that you can't know the ending of the boy because you don't want to do but like but my question is What do you see as like the difference between these things like any of like in the in the sub genres of horror How do you break them apart?
Starting point is 00:16:08 You know what's interesting is is I would probably say that you know The comparisons more Brahms a guy in the walls to to ester, you know You know that was what in the show We didn't want to spoil the ending of the boy who hadn't seen it like we were like but now this is patreon So they're gonna you're gonna have to know that like the boy's not the boy Yeah And and and so the sociopaths of the psychopath the human Um, it's really just about what what what sliver of this their life story we see so in the boss
Starting point is 00:16:41 We see the story we see which is mostly about these parents their coping mechanism, right and um, And then we reveal like it wasn't just a coping mechanism Um, there's more to it the same thing with you know orphan. It's like She's a little girl, but she's not she's she's actually this adult sociopath We've just never delved as much into Brahms's story as we've seen her Do now two full movies and seen a couple sides to her so So there are it's there's a lot of similarities
Starting point is 00:17:15 To me certainly on like my the things that get me excited about horror Well, I like anything the innocent on its head Is one of the you know, it's such a it's good to say part of horror forever But like when you went to go to design the boy. Yeah, like no Yes, the doll the boy like how how many options did you go through and how did you choose? What the optics were because we had was another kind of conversation We've had ongoing on last podcast about like Annabelle, right how I actually prefer Oh, sort of like the actual Annabelle, which was a raggedy and all and it's super plain
Starting point is 00:17:55 And then the movie when they make it a little bit more elaborate Where I think the boy is a really good down the middle Like it's just a good old-fashioned creepy porcelain boy Well, you know and that to me is um scarier than if that boy was making an evil face and Yes, I had you know, um, you know forget the fact that obviously Annabelle Was was in the zeitgeist around them as well. So whenever the studio wanted me to make him look scarier Is that a note that they give you like? Yeah, like make him scare shouldn't he and but I'm like no, it's like
Starting point is 00:18:31 Damian from the omen or the two twin brothers from the other or These characters are Cherubic like sweet kids and but they're holding like a knife behind their back and if you get close enough, they'll slit your throat But and so I tried really hard to make him look Um as those dolls did in that time, you know, kind of beautiful and and innocent and um, but you know, we used real Fake eyeballs like eyeballs. Yeah, you know, it was I mean the amount of the changes and the Variations in developing him, you know, it was super intense and it was an oh, I bet I think it was the the when we did the camera test three days before shooting his hair was
Starting point is 00:19:15 terrible it looked like uh, he looked like a Like a male figure skater. He had this Hair was like had these wings And that wasn't like what the design was but it's what the wig looked like And so the night before we're in there like, you know Having them cut his hair a certain way going. Oh, this is a nightmare Like if he shows up like it changes everything then um, and it turned out good like uh, we on the shooting day He was like, ah
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's that you treat the boy like he's a little cast member Like is it like do you have to like do like set the tone like when you're doing something scary like that? Like how do you make everybody kind of feel the weight of it? Or do people like goof around because I feel like there's kind of different ways people run horror sets where like It's on one side of it's super extreme. He tends to be like a lighter set. Yeah I mean, you know, he was kind of treated like a cast member for sure. I mean and You know, here's what's funny about him on set You know, he has different looks based on what's happening in the store, especially in second
Starting point is 00:20:19 We was in the dirt but He's over there and we put him in a chair and I've got great like, you know behind the scenes photos of him but But not only is he is he just sitting there waiting to go on camera and of course you get used to it You feel like he's a he is a cast member But like based on like how his hair was we needed it to you know, like be Style a certain way so he would have little clips in his hair
Starting point is 00:20:44 Like so that his hair would you know curve a certain way when we let the clips down So it would be like he would be waiting rollers, you know in between tanks So it wasn't heavy or anything, but it wasn't like goofy. It was like And he's careful with him, you know, because he's he's somewhat fragile depending on which version of him he is But yeah, you know, he's uh, and he just sitting there, you know getting Lit for a scene The other actors are across from him and it's really no different, you know, it's kind of like a stand-in except
Starting point is 00:21:16 There is no person to fill the space. It's just him Because you as an actor you're supposed to technically you've been given the directive of like well Like I love the interplay of the that's what's so good about the boy Is the is the is he real like that feeling of like, you know, like you could watch them kind of play that process Of as he Became real. Yeah, which is pretty great. Yeah How how did Brahms the second one prepare you to do this new movie? So orphan first killed so this is like so you've done a sequel or or like
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, how does this prep you like I mean, obviously they are different structures But like is there something about like because you didn't make the first orphan. How do you like Continue that story Well, you know one thing that's great is the first movie holds up so well, you know, and I mean there's a quality to it That's dated that we kind of wanted to partly lean into both in the look and sound of it But um, and it had such a such an exceptional level of casting, you know for for a horror film For a movie then so you're like, okay
Starting point is 00:22:28 we have To some degree the answers to the tests, you know, especially when isabel was officially on board and we knew you know And I knew like other than the technical aspects of making her believable or you know in the story We have you know, the actress who knows better than anybody You know how to bring to life his character, but as far as the look and feel it's like Part of it is like when in doubt look at the original film, you know, yeah It was like that with casting, you know, like bringing on julia To me was a really like it's the same kind of level as uh, vira farmuga, you know, um, and it's like, uh
Starting point is 00:23:08 When you know when it was just normal creative conversations and people like oh, what about this casting choice? And it's like that doesn't really Live up to what the original film was so always going back and pointing to the original movie because it was so good and being able to lean on it on every level to make sure that You know, we're doing things more in a unique way from the original film But at the same time it still needs to be that dna so And and the boy movies definitely prepared me for that for many reasons because it's similar There's a lot of similarities, you know in the in the
Starting point is 00:23:43 In the look and style. I feel like in the tone There's like there is similarity in tone, which is like I feel like it actually does allow you to move pretty much directly from the boy To orphan. Yeah Hey, what's up everyone? How you doing ben kissle here with Henry Zabrowski? Yeah, it's me, man. Yeah, bro. Henry Zabrowski is smoking some of that sweet last podcast on the left, babe Go out there and purchase yourself some. I hope you enjoy it We have sativa we have indica and we have a hybrid and I have to tell you for my personal experience They are wonderful super tasty live resin. You really get the delicious weedy taste, which is what I like and three different experiences
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Starting point is 00:25:00 A real tiny person. Yeah pretending to be a child. Yeah, like I said, you know, you know in vintiana these Right now it's so popular to watch Movies and series in particular about these charlatans, you know, whether they're creating We work or You know something like the inventor and And I think the love of the con man is a slightly american aspirational
Starting point is 00:25:31 Idea because I think it kind of brings up the idea like it's the very core of the make money from nothing Yeah, I mean American ideal. Yeah fake it till you make it and then what always fascinates me about Those stories and the story like natalia grace and a story like like ester or lina um is like These sociopaths, you know on different levels and they all are um Like what are you thinking like what what do you think is the end game here because you can't sustain this? Eventually, you're not like natalia grace. You're not going to grow up and then they're going to be like what's going on
Starting point is 00:26:07 What's your deal? Yeah? Like when you cut her hanging out playing dominoes and smoking shit like she's like that character from the simpsons Like yeah, which I love and it's yeah, so to me. I'm just like, yeah, you know like Um, I get it as a as a means to an end. Maybe you know like With ester, you know getting to america. It's a great way to get to america and to slip through Whatever people were looking for this uh an adult and so she slips through the cracks as a child But how long, you know, do you think that can last and how many times you're going to continue to do that same thing? And I feel like with the characters like this their lives are probably probably very painful as normal adults
Starting point is 00:26:47 And yeah, so they slip into these lies But like I said those lives aren't sustainable so When are you gonna learn from lesson? A lot of times you see these guys, especially pathological liars people that have a We see it's like some version of an antisocial personality disorder like whatever is in under that umbrella A lot of times it's the only way that they feel anything like they legitimately have a block They only feel
Starting point is 00:27:15 They feel nothing like there's nothing registers and the only thing that does register is upping the stakes Of your current life Like you do things where you try to fuck with the system Because it gives you a reaction finally. Yeah, and you know It's kind of the reverse of something like um, is it munchausa syndrome? Is that where you were you know where you were you? Well, you've got the child. Is that well, yeah, they've got the two different. Yes, it is my yeah munchausa by proxy I believe that it's like the idea that you have the it's the mom keeping the kids sick
Starting point is 00:27:51 kid kind of leaning into the good, you know, it's this sort of inner world of of I put it just mental illness. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and and um, and so, you know, someone like tally grace. It's like As an adult is she ridiculed in some way that it's just really her but as a child she gets to be the smartest kid in room and Oh, yeah, she gets that's great. You know, yeah, she's you know She's brilliant and it's the same way with ester, you know, she's you know, and we talked about like Esther's past. I mean, she's 31 in this movie 33 and the other so she's got 20 years Back and oh, yeah, she's supposed to be you know, but like go to college and she tried to go to college and did she You know, uh, was she 28 and fell in love with her t. A. Her, you know, teachers assistant or
Starting point is 00:28:40 But got laughed out of that or something and you know, like and then decided, okay, I'm gonna go back to acting like I'm a kid again Like who knows how many times she tried to become a normal person and it just didn't work out and being exactly to do it I don't know. And people positioned her already as a little kid. I think that there's a little bit of that too where she looks like a child And so people kind of treat you as such. Yeah, absolutely And like you said, she just deals with it like a really brilliant child Yeah, like so you get nothing but positive validation. Yeah again Yeah, very thought about this now. Maybe this is kind of this is out of the box But if you thought about maybe doing a tie-in
Starting point is 00:29:17 Uh to the orphan orphan to first kill Where you go to orphanages and try to find and suss out these fake children These fake children and that you do it yourself You and Isabella Go from orphanage to orphanage and you get three of them with the pair of parents, right? And you try to find out which is the secret adult It's a right. It's it's like, uh, it's like a dating show. Um, you know, who is the fake child? Who's the fake child? Who is the fake orphan the, um
Starting point is 00:29:53 That's something we haven't thought about and it's like it is one of those great like, um, off Outside the box Ideas and a publicity, um Scenario I think that we should try it. No, I think I'm gonna put money into this Well, what's interesting to me is is because there's more than Natalia Grace. It's like, oh, yeah, how how many especially, um adopted Orphans from another country who are coming in as Even at 12, but they're actually 18, you know, um, how much of that is actually happening
Starting point is 00:30:27 And how many of those girls, you know, bless their hearts are hoping maybe I will sleep with the dad and get a green card And you know, those types of things that's rough. Oh, yeah, I'll tell you what man I don't believe I actually think that it's up to 75% of orphans are fake Yeah, well, especially yeah, I'm actually I'm pretty I'm that close. I think 75 to 90% Of orphans are adults Pretending to be children and that's I wish we could stop it. I wish we could stop you mean and you don't miss you mean They still could grow up not necessarily. They have a condition that will keep them a child forever Oh, no, no, that's why they have to wipe out the parents
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yes, they have to wipe out their own parents that they just get in there and then restructure and then become somebody else's orphan Yeah, I mean, you know It's it's not that far, you know from from other scenarios that we know are very real, you know I think I think so. Do you think that between the boy and orphan is the reason why you probably why you don't have children? I think because you just can't trust them Yeah, that's part of it in a way. Yeah You know what it did for me. My wife was we need to talk about kevin Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah, that stopped it because we were like we're good We're like we're relatively normal and you could still make a crazy one. Oh, yeah um, and you know, it's a cross between either them being crazy or you know They could you know, I could have easily been very, you know depressed and um, and just sad or yeah, you know I I I joked like I tried to kill my stepmother once now. This is uh, not really but like when I was like She was a kind of step monster to me and um And so I put hairspray on her toothbrush when I was like six years old
Starting point is 00:32:16 unbelievable You can't trust these kids. I cannot trust a child Yeah, I think that's I think it's what we know for certain I'm very scared of them It's certainly what these stories are leading into, you know that fear that you can't trust a child Or you can't even trust that a doll's not maybe real or um, or that it's doesn't have a life when the lights go out, you know I mean, there's there's a lot of aspects
Starting point is 00:32:45 It creeps me out man Because I have that I have one of these like I have this like chucky mask above like right on the side of me And it sits in a way that it's right above my chair And so when I come if I have to go to the bathroom at night or whatever they coming out It freaks me out two or three times a week like I see it. Oh, yeah Well, and that's that's part of the fun too like a tour of of you know, creating scenarios that feel Grounded in a fairly normal life to where you know, when you leave the movie, you're not off the hook, you know You still yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:33:18 Or when you're friends watching the movie, you know, you're still in the middle of the night and you go to your bathroom Uh, see the chucky mask and it scares you three times a week. You know, that's amazing It's a goddamn orphan Dude, so orphan first kill comes out august 19th. Yes Very excited to see it. I can't wait. I know our people are gonna love it because we're all I'm gonna say we're orphan heads I mean, it's a movie made very much It's kind of a love letter to her and to fans You know of her. I mean, you know, it wasn't just a movie made just to make a movie. It is a movie very much made
Starting point is 00:33:52 With and I'm a fan, you know with to go. Ah, yeah, like I'm gonna I mean, you'll see I'll always spend more time with an orphan I can't wait, but thank you so much Brent. Thank you so much for talking to me today And we'll put up a little link and I'll let you know when it goes up great man. Thank you so much Thank you again to all you patreon listeners for every single thing that you've done Now all of the delicious duckets that you have given from your hot wet little pockets To our big wide cold
Starting point is 00:34:22 Dry pockets and I want to say thank you Thank you so much Hail Satan Go watch orphan first kill. I know I'm going to you know, I like this shit and it's gonna be it's gonna be great Get high as hell Drink a bunch of beers And hopefully an orphan does a little bit more mayhem because
Starting point is 00:34:44 God I need it

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