Last Podcast On The Left - Predator Badlands: An Interview with Dan Trachtenberg

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Hot off the presses Eddie sits down with the director of 10 Cloverfield Lane, Prey, Predator: Killer of Killers, the new hit installment in the Predator Franchise, Predator: Badlands - Matt Trachtenbe...rg joins the show to discuss his latest film that gives us a new angle on the Predator, taking the reigns of one of his favorite childhood blockbusters, Yautja Lore, a possible peek into the future of the franchise, Alien vs. Predator, and much, much more.... For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. Hi. Hello, everybody. Thank you for coming on and listening to us. Yes, this last podcast and a left interview series, Hamstile. I am Ed Larson, your ambassador, and joining me today is the visionary, director, storyteller, writer, all kinds of amazing stuff. I can't wait to talk to this guy. I'm going to stop Blaborin so he can get in here. everyone welcome dan tractonberg yeah all right all right yeah all right come on in big time what's going on dan how you doing i'm good i'm stoked to be here yeah yeah you feeling good after this bad lands i'm feeling good yeah we made a really crazy movie and uh and people ended up liking it uh which is a big sigh of relief. I bet, man. I bet. Because, you know, everyone loves the Predator franchise and you have just like taken it? Is it your, do you, does it belong to you now? Like, are you John Favreau
Starting point is 00:01:08 of Predator? Is that what's happened? I've made three very unique, very different movies inside the franchise and we'll see, we'll see what happens next. I'll say, I'll say they're very, you call it very unique but i feel like they all like involve teamwork like i feel like they're all like like like it's like it's like if you the only way to win whether you know you're on no matter what side you're on is is teamwork and uh and so i i've noticed that's a common theme uh for you is that something for you a team player did you play sports like where does this come from i didn't play sports i'm funny i i i love sports movies i love underdog stories i love underdog stories.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And Killer of Killers and and Badlands certainly do involve like found families and and the notion of being stronger together. But the underdog story like is certainly a through line in all three of the movies. And yeah, I just I just find it to be something. an emotional fulcrum for the Predator series where the main character of the franchise, the antagonist in every film besides Prey, is looking for the most worthy, hunting something that is deemed the alpha. And so that's a wonderful counterpoint to a story where characters are trying already
Starting point is 00:02:51 to prove themselves as worthy to their clan, family, or even, you know, to themselves. It's interesting because in Prey, like, it's like he was looking for what was worthy, but he had to fight, uh, Nauru. Like, I think that was like the coolest thing ever. Like, it's like, it wasn't even about his fight anymore. It's about her fight.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Well, we're really, the whole movie, he doesn't see her as a threat the entire time. She keeps saying, I'm, I'm a badass and he keeps saying, I don't even see you as that. you know um and it's not really until the end that she does um become a threat that that in the final moments he sees her is worthy and that and then it's too late man so yeah i got to ask i want to we're going to get into it in a little bit i want to like ask you a bunch of like predator yak jaw uh lore you know like i because i feel like you know better than anyone right now and i don't
Starting point is 00:03:46 know. Was there like a like a like a similar alien that you had to like work off of or you get to kind of like, you know, make it up as you go? No, the truth of the matter is I don't know more than anyone. There are people that know, um, uh, the lore from ancillary material far more than I do. And I, I know, I know a certain amount, uh, that's for sure. But, um, the, the funny thing about this franchise is there's no jean roddenberry there's no george lucas and and the movies were all very episodic and and lean and mean so the background of of the yautja species the predator species was really explored in comics and novels and and when i signed on to do the first movie when i sign on to do pray. I was like, all right, give me the goods. Show me the Bible. Let me know
Starting point is 00:04:48 what's up. I'm ready to give me the list of weapons. And it did not exist. The studio did not have anything of that nature. It wasn't until I linked up with Alec Gillis and Tom Woodward at the time, ADI. They worked with Stan Winston on the first 87 movie and had been with the franchise for most of its run and alien as well. They've worked on several alien movies. So Alec is the closest proximity to what's in the films having some sort of a Bible and put together a whole packet of weapons and armor and designs, species designs that were explored either used in their films or almost used and abandoned or whatever. So I could just see. everything was out there and really discern what the design language truly is for the franchise.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But from there, I am using my own narrative instincts, just like the people who wrote the comics and the novels did to create the canon that people that all of us fans and the internet then devour. So I'm kind of half running on the lore that has existed and kind of taking what I find to be, um the most compelling and and the most narratively rich and then forming my own sort of canon with the movies as i'm as i'm putting forth now your last three movies i mean to me best three since the original and um do you take the other predator movies like the predator and predators like does that exist in your world they do i mean i've certainly taken elements i think every predator movie has had awesome sequences, awesome bits in them. I don't know that I've loved every single
Starting point is 00:06:45 movie holistically, but the aesthetic of our cloaking device that started with Prey for me and was in the animated film in Badland, Killer Killers and Badlands. That came more from the 2018 predator than any other installment of the franchise. and even the notion of the cloaking device being something inside the gauntlet, a little ball, you know, key fob that goes in the gauntlet that's revealed at the end of Badlands. That came from the 2018 as well. And a lot of our weapons are, you know, the we call the netball came from the netball came from the net. net gun that was in Predator 2 and the AVP and and and the combi stick that seems so synonymous with the franchise isn't in the first movie. So yeah, I've kind of taken elements
Starting point is 00:07:56 from all of them. So they're all canon then, we would assume. I guess you don't get to make that decision. I don't make a decision. Anything, as soon as a movie, how? has something that references narratively something from another film, then I think it's canonized, then at least those are canonized, you know, until someone changes it later. You know, it's like whatever the movies say means that that's true. When did the name Yachtjaw appear? Because I didn't, right, I never heard it before your movies,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but then, you know, I probably just missed it, you know, because I've only seen the movies. No, it's never been in the movies. It's never been in the movies. It was in a, I believe it was an AVP novel that, indeed the term Yautja, that I think is meant to be pronounced Yautja. But Yautja just had a little bit more of a ring to it. It's like Jif and GIF. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no one likes those GIF people, you know. At this point, I can't remember how I first, in terms of GIF and GIF, I feel like I always thought it was GIF, and then I was horrified when I learned that it was GIF. And now I can't even remember which one was the first that I, you know, learned. I just look at it as something that makes me dumber. Love it. So, Yachtja, I heard, now you tell me if I'm wrong,
Starting point is 00:09:29 because I heard all kinds of things, and everyone here likes to think that they're the smartest person and knows everything. I heard you wanted to call the most recent movie Yachtja. and then they were like you're an idiot don't do that no one knows what my friends were like that my friends we were playing a game um i had i had kind of like a a weekend with with my my friends at palm springs and we were playing a like password style game and i put in the thing yautja um and nobody knew what the heck the word was and everyone was making fun of it and i was like i think i'm just gonna call my next movie that um and they were like don't do that uh but i yeah i wanted to call you know i
Starting point is 00:10:12 thought the movie would teach us the movie would make it a cool thing um and uh it just didn't didn't get to stay around well i think you've officially made it a thing man because it's i'm in you know i always wanted i'm sick i hate that we call it predator i hate that we call it alien i know it's a xenomorph you know but like if there ever is another alien versus predator movie I hope it's xenomorphs, xenomorph versus Yaucho. You know, I think that'd be a better thing. Also, I got to say, a gripe, it's got nothing to do with you. But the Alien vs. Predator movies, like, you don't need humans in this movie.
Starting point is 00:10:51 To me, the humans ruined the whole thing. There should have been one word of English in that whole movie. It should have just been clicks and screams, you know. Well, that's certainly an inception point for Badlands, because, That was the fear. If I put any humans in the movie, it then would be what AVP is. It would just be humans and a Yautja teaming up
Starting point is 00:11:14 as opposed to, no, no, no, no. The protagonist, the main character is the Yautja. Yeah, but there's still, like, the sense of humans, you know? There's still, like, the company. I know it's a robot, you know, and stuff like that. You know, but there still is, like, the stench of humans. Would you ever want to make one without, like, just, like, nothing? Just Yacht Joll.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I love it. I love it. I love Ganyi Tartikovsky's primal, you know. That was also a big inspiration. And I love that kind of storytelling that is just very visceral and visual. Does their planet have a name? It's referred to as Yautja Prime, which we put in the movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But yeah, Yautja Prime. Yachtro Prime. Do they have like a government? Like, you know, like what, like they're obviously very technologically advanced. you know like it's like there's gotta be like yuck jawed nerds you know who's making all this shit i see that so there's two interesting answers to that one i see them as very nomadic and very tribal um i would think of them a little bit more like the dothraki in in game of thrones barbarians um and so as much as those have government or the wildlings you know you know um i don't
Starting point is 00:12:33 I don't know that they're in, I don't know that they're voting with constitutions and all those things. It may be something that feels a little bit more ancient. But in, in the lore, in the comics, I have, I've, yeah, I don't, we'll see how much any of this would be included theatrically, though, but I'm very interested in it. that it is the origin of the species is they were actually enslaved by a more intelligent race called the Amengi and then there was a big overthrow and they stole all the technology of the Amengi and that's how they got all of their stuff and in Badlands in the beginning in within the first few shots when we're following the hover the hover the hover bike um it go it passes by some broken amengi statues so um oh yeah very cool very cool
Starting point is 00:13:36 man this is also a cool little bit uh when uh sorry so you're you're working you're like you're making all these movies you're making the predator movies like all right yakja they obviously they have to procreate but do they love i i absolutely think any any creature that is that passionate you know that is that angry I think also
Starting point is 00:14:05 loves as well so yeah yeah because we saw a little bit of love I don't want to get too deep into it because I don't want to spoil anything because everyone has to go out and see badlands in the theater prey and killer killers were incredible but I was a little disappointed they weren't in the
Starting point is 00:14:22 theater and so go see predator badlands in the theater there is no experience like it. It's still going to be, you're going to be so happy about it. Now, the thing everyone's talking about, is that an ID4, a hunter,
Starting point is 00:14:40 harvester, a skull, or is that a War the World skull? Or you don't, you're like, yeah, I don't care. War the Worlds is not owned by Disney and 20th century studios. Okay, there we go. But Independence Day is. Independence Day is. All right, all right. Oh, that's very, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Interesting. Interesting. I like this. Now, are there any other Easter eggs that no one's pointed out yet that, because I'm sure you're reading what everyone's bitching about. I think I just dropped a big one with the the Mengy statues. Yeah, that's what I'm
Starting point is 00:15:11 talking about. I love a scoop. I love a scoop. Coogler gave us a scoop. He really helps out. All right, so we're going to, Alien versus Predator. Are we doing more of these? does it matter i mean the company's obviously going on the alien movies are killing it um romulus was awesome alien earth people are loving that uh are you in uh fade a alvarez are you guys getting lunch
Starting point is 00:15:37 all the time do you check in with each other uh we were getting lunch before we even knew we would ever make a predator or alien movie i've been fede for for a bit that's awesome and uh and massive massive fan of his uh and and um yeah so so well we'll just have to see how you know where the where the narrative takes us i love it because you're such an original storyteller but you love using it's what seems like other people's stories to tell your stories and which is it's like a new concept in the world like i i was looking through everything you've ever done it's almost like, no, you didn't like create any of it.
Starting point is 00:16:21 It wasn't like any, it was all existing stories that you came in, like gave a badass angle to. By the way, 10 Cloverfield Lane is one of my favorite movies. I was like, I was like, whoa, when I found out the new Predator movies were being done by the 10 Cloverfield Lane guy, I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:37 let's do this shit. I can't wait, man. I thought Goodman deserved an Oscar for that movie, or at least nominated. He was incredible. I was like, was that like, that was a tour to force and i don't want to jump too far into this from that but like i was he doing different takes of each scene like because that's something i heard and it was oh man and you just like you in terms of you i think you're asking like was he wildly different in different take yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:17:03 because i never knew what goodman i was going to get like when he showed up on screen yes that's very much a part of it was pushing him in wildly different directions from take to take and then we could really mess with people when we were cutting the movie together. All right. All right. Going back, going back to the Fox and Disney.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I did some lookups and see where we could like maybe have some more. I'm going to pitch at you. All right. I mean, I'm going to pitch at you. We can talk about it and you can say yes or no. And like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:38 it's a like, so it has to be owned by Fox or Disney, right? In order for you to even think about. including it so they're like here's your list you know what are we doing here okay well they're not saying that but but you are i'm saying that i'm saying lots of things thank you for pointing that out because i don't want to get you in trouble but i yeah yeah i speak wildly like and so just know that anything i say people at home i'm talking to you right now anything i say is i'm
Starting point is 00:18:05 saying it you know anything dan says he's saying it you know i lie a lot um so predator versus Lake Placid Crocodile. I got it. I mean, I really think this is like, this could be amazing. This is, I mean, it's definitely like a huge being. I feel like the predator would probably kill it pretty fast. I think
Starting point is 00:18:25 so, but that's, I love, I love, I want to see it. Yeah, a bunch of these, you know? How about this? Here's an interesting one. The Omen. Predator versus Satan? Like, is there God? Like, is there God on
Starting point is 00:18:40 on yaw prime like does like do they have Satan do they you know like do they have religion? I don't think they believe in earthly um hey I don't believe in shit but you know like it doesn't mean it's not there
Starting point is 00:18:54 you know so it's interesting all right so the omen probably not probably not going to see predator versus Satan then here's one I really feel like would be a legitimately amazing fight the bone tomahawk monster bone tomahawk was a was
Starting point is 00:19:10 a fox was a fox you've seen bone tomahawk right yeah the kurt russellor yeah yeah yeah shit was wild yeah and you know they they they fight against uh indigenous people you know we see this you know so uh i feel like that could be a good fight was that interested that looks like i piqued your interest a little bit on that one yes but but i think i feel like we've i think we saw um the predator come down in that century um and you know already so um Can the predator time travel? Is that what's going on here? No, no, no, no, they've just been around for quite a bit. And so when they got Nauru is her name, right?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah, Nadu, yeah. So at the end of Killer for Killers, can we talk about this? Yeah. Okay, cool. The end of Killer for Killers, we see, you know, we see. Unless you haven't seen Killer of Killers, go watch it now. If you haven't, it's a spoiler, come back. Come back, yeah, stop for a second.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But at the very end of Killer for Killers, a phenomenal cartoon available on Hulu. you tease that you see Nauru and then we see Mirdaw and then we see Marka. Yeah, Mike Harrigan and Dutch and so so they have like they freeze bodies. Is that what they're doing up there?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah, cryo. They do cryo and they can just hold it for centuries. That's right. That's right. You got it. All right. And so are there any other centuries? Does he come back every century or no because I mean Predator 2 and Predator 1 I mean he was back like that might have been weeks apart for that's true you're right you're right I stand correct
Starting point is 00:20:47 I don't think it was weeks apart it was 10 years it was a decade apart oh okay okay so you're right bone Tomahawk and Predator you won you win I give up I love lore I love lore all right the fly
Starting point is 00:21:03 I don't think the fly probably wouldn't but but you get you stick the Predator in a fly machine. Oh, well. Who knows what's going to happen? Who knows what's going to happen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 That is gnarly, dude. That is gnarly. Yeah. I know they've done, like, comics and stuff like that, but, like, is there any, like, Marvel X-Men? I know that Archie's fought the predator at some point, apparently. Yeah, they've done so many of those in the comics, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But is Disney even hinted that they'll are like just stay away from our Marvel? Disney hasn't brought up any of those kinds of things. I mean, once again, they're not, they're kind of been looking to me as to, you know, where things could go predator-wise. And yeah. So you're the predator guy now. Yeah, unless, you know, maybe we'll meet someone else awesome and, you know. I mean, after your trio, dude. Dude, to me, it's you.
Starting point is 00:22:08 If they take it from you, I'm pissed at this point. You know, so you're running with this so much, and it's, it's very impressive. Thank you. So, but Cloverfield, the Cloverfield's not the same. It's not allowed, right? No, that's Paramount. That's Paramount? Fucking assholes.
Starting point is 00:22:24 All right, how about this? TV, all right? TV's not another question. To catch a predator, starring predator. Forget Chris Hanson. There's a, there's something, on YouTube. Ah, I thought it was my idea.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's like a five-minute-long, crazy sketch that's pretty wild. Just the predator throwing his voice as a little girl. It's weird. Is I'm in here? Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great. How about our predator, Yakja, comes to Earth, all right? It gets caught, it's like, it gets noticed.
Starting point is 00:23:04 You know, it gets caught on camera, starts realizing. people love the idea that there's an alien on earth. Predator starts to become a celebrity, all right? Predator is now like, he's like, oh. I'm into it. I'm into it. He's like, okay, I think this is, this is cool. This is cool.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm like, you know, it's almost like a running man type of situation. Oh. Then the predator, because he's an alien, it came from, people start worshiping him. Like he's a god. Okay. You know, kind of like Columbus or Cortez or something like that, you know. Predators being worshipped as a God can change, mimic people's voices, starts preaching, becomes a mega-church pastor starts stealing money from the community is still a predator,
Starting point is 00:23:58 just in a different way. Yes. As he thematically, I like this. I love a good thematic. story so um all right all right i'm with predator captured by the u.s government in the 1960s okay he slipped up he made a mistake and he's captured he's captured by the u.s government they start running tests on him all right all right we we got to this thing we got to use this who shows up Alan dullis the head of the CIA in the 1960s okay great yeah yeah yeah he's
Starting point is 00:24:31 common knowledge we're all supposed to know that my fans my fans know this all right so he they Did Rob know that? Rob knows it. Yeah, Rob knows it. He would actually, if he said he didn't, we'd have to fire him. So Alan Dulles gets a hold of him. And he's like, all right, let's send the predator through M.K. Ultra training. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They're going to send him, you're going to make him a weapon of the U.S. government. All right? The predator is now. He now works for us. It's him and 11. Team up. Yes. It's like him and Reggie Jackson from naked gun.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And, you know, it's like, so it's a. He's out there. He, the predator, full, invisible second shooter on the grassy knoll. Uh-oh. Well, we would never know. We never know. We never know. But we would know if we made the movie and showed me.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Right. But I feel like that could be, because it doesn't make sense how the head blows up. You know, but if the predator was on the grassy knoll and the head would blow up behind that way, it would all be invisible. I think we'd see the three dots, though. Oh, but do you? would you see the three dots on the Zabruder? I mean, that's a shitty camera. Let's face it.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's a shitty camera. It's true. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. We can test this. We can go out to Dallas. We'll get you a Zabruder camera. Yeah, it's like when James Cameron tested the like the door with two people on it to see if it worked.
Starting point is 00:25:55 We'll go test to see if the pruder. If the super eight camera could pick up the, you know, yeah. Are you going full Cameron, by the way? It's like full like, is this predator for life? Is this what you're? No, I don't think so. Is he doing full avatar for life? I don't think so, but it's been, but it's been what, the only reason why I've done the three movies so far is, is because I'm, I'm telling wildly original stories that I'd want to do anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. And I can do them within, um, this, this franchise. So, uh, and with this character that's made everything so much more rich and cool. so that's the only reason why I've done even these yeah but no I I'm excited to do lots of as I did before and I've done a little bit in TV and with and cloverfield a in as well you know and yeah cloverfield black mirror you're involved in you got the boys you're right it looks like right now on IMDB it says there's a water world thing going on no no update that shit yeah that is not true
Starting point is 00:27:06 I do love Waterworld I do love Waterworld very much You know it's a great movie I mean it's a bad movie But it's great I would argue Not even a bad movie I think it's worth
Starting point is 00:27:18 Post Fury Road Post being invigorated By what that movie was Take another look at Waterworld We just were not ready To see Kevin Costner Drink his own pee at the time But now we are
Starting point is 00:27:32 Now And now that we've seen uh what's this name who's the uh bill gates we've seen bill gates drink his own pee in his documentary so now it's got i missed that oh yeah yeah you know he he brought he brought a machine out to africa he was drinking poo-poo water it was a great time wow um so have you hung out and talk to arnold at all like i did i did i did yeah no we we we got his approval um for his inclusioning in killer of killers yeah um and he's been been been a big fan of what we've been doing so hell yeah it's been great yeah so if if arnold ever came back obviously it would have
Starting point is 00:28:13 to be in the in the cartoon version or in the animated version because he's so old and we see him as a young dutch um have you guys is uh any interest in that or is it just like you like to fuck with our heads a little bit no i mean i i i the the the ending of killer killers to me was a door open for more stories for all of those characters and any character that's that survived in the franchise and and more stories can be told about how they end up there more stories can be told for the next second you know after that you know and and and even far later you know um so that's really an open open door now yeah and you did such a great job with um getting rid of the r rating And so I've never said that before.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I very much indulged in the R-R-rating for Killer of Killers and Prey even, you know, so. Yeah, it's true. It's true. But for the new one, Badlands, I mean, for all intents of purposes, it's an R-rated film. But it is a PG-13 because I guess because all the blood isn't red. Is that really what it is? Yeah. Yeah, it's creatures and robots, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So we were able to do all the kinds of things that we normally do in a predator movie. it just happens a slightly different but you're you're seeing a lot of crazy stuff yeah no it was awesome i fucking love the movie so but the uh when you were a kid i was reading on your wikipedia page i went i did a quick little perusals you weren't allowed to watch r-rated movies you weren't even allowed to watch like pg 13 movies not until i was like 12 you know
Starting point is 00:29:56 that's wild to see pg 13 yeah man they let me see all that i saw predator like the moment it came out it was fucking awesome The, um, my dad, as soon as it came on HBO, my dad's like, we're watching this tonight. Your mother's gone. But you were, uh, you, it said that you, like, created, like, plots to these movies that you weren't allowed to see in your head. Yeah, I mean, I would, I mean, the, the, the prior to predator even, I, I, I want Rambo, what year did Rambo 3 come out?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Maybe it wasn't Prior to Predator. For this one prior to be seeing it, it might have been 89 or something like that. So Rambo, the first, the first. The first audio cassettes I ever purchased. I bought two the same day. It was the soundtrack to Nightmare in Elm Street 4 and the soundtrack to Rambo 3. And I would listen to Rambo 3 every morning on the ride to camp and just picture the movie in my head. And that really fueled everything.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And the same thing goes for Predator as much as I hated my mom for not letting me watch all those movies when I was a kid. I have her to thank for, um, for, uh, sort of nurturing this, this, you know, my, my imagination to really grow and, and, and come up with my own stories. And for Predator, I, I, I had, there was a video game magazine called Game Pro back in the day and they had a contest to like design a level. Um, and they would feature it in the magazine and I designed a predator level. Um, and, uh, and sent it, sent it in and did not win the contest. It's still cool to do. It's a great thought exercise.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah. You know, and so what was your Predator movie that you created in your brain? The, no, I mean, I guess I could say, because the thing that stuck with me when I first heard of Predator was some friends in mine described the movie moment for most. moment, but they said that there's this awesome scene where Billy, the Native American tracker, um, cut his, cut his own chest with his knife, um, and then fought the predator on a bridge over a waterfall. Um, and I was like, that sounds so badass. And I imagine this crazy, awesome epic battle. The movie, he cuts his chest and then we hear scream and that's it. um so pray in many ways is the like me fulfilling what my imagination craved um you know way back then
Starting point is 00:32:42 narro's brother um in pray uh he gets the same scar now that i'm thinking now they hear you mention it yes he does you are not a lot of people have picked up we were insist we were insistent on and and that blocking didn't quite make sense like we we kind of created that scene to happen in a certain way so that um uh he would get that and i remember directing the actors to like no no no you have to hold it like you have to cut him exactly in this direction um in this way yeah yeah man those french fur trappers they've never been represented well on film they've never they've never no one's ever been like you know what these guys were great uh now you're talking about you made a predator um game you know to to to
Starting point is 00:33:31 you know, just for fun or when you were younger, you also worked on the Hellboy 2 alternate reality game. Predender, I feel like, hasn't really gotten his video game yet. Have you thought about that at all? It's just to say the Hellboy 2
Starting point is 00:33:46 that was just viral. It was one of the first commercial because I was a commercial director. It was just viral marketing for it. And ARG, they used to call those like I've no idea what that means. I had a big one and where there's a link to a website and then numbers and for For Hellboy 2, it was like these like found footage videos of trolls appearing places.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But Predator, yeah, no, Predator has a very cool game now called Hunting Grounds. That's like, you know, someone is the predator and then there's four soldiers and that predator gets to hunt down the other four people. there was a game that I missed sadly called Concrete Jungle that is the most similar to Badlands and it was the kind of game that I love out of the Predator franchise which is like a third person action adventure
Starting point is 00:34:45 open world game would be really cool and one last question about deck from Badlands And how long has he been training That he's like
Starting point is 00:35:00 Because he's the runt He's it's about it's about the runt of the litter I don't think I'm giving anything away with that And he goes on to like find what the What creature he wants to kill But how long has he been training to become a failure Like in his father's eyes I think he's
Starting point is 00:35:17 I think He is Teenaged Okay he's teenage Yeah he seemed like that a little bit He definitely had that, like, I'm going to do anything I want kind of attitude. So, yeah, that makes sense. Now, Yachtja, are they all dudes?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Like, the ones we've met anyway. The ones we've met are all dudes, yeah. So they're very, I guess, misogynistic culture, maybe? Like, the guys go out and fight? We haven't seen. We just haven't seen yet, you know. Oh, yeah. No, we haven't seen yet.
Starting point is 00:35:52 That's correct. What comes next? So, I'm so excited to see anything else you make. I can't wait to re-watch Badlands. I'll probably go ahead and see it in the theater again. I got my AMC stubs. I can go as much as I want. You know, it was so good.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I love seeing the theater. I've liked every version of The Predator, but I feel like you have taken it to another level. And I can't wait to see what you're able to pull through in the future with this. man I can't wait to see it's oh and fluffer nutter sandwiches love them by the way hey where are you from originally I'm from Florida but I'm all over the place yeah we we eat we eat trash yeah it doesn't matter you know but I saw you but you made everyone eat them on one of your sets on all every single set and in New Zealand they called them nutty fluffies
Starting point is 00:36:42 nutty fluffy so they have them out there no no I just I told them how to make it and they decided that was called a nutty fluffy or they misheard me or something Well check out your A1C Make sure that everything's gonna be okay I hope I hope that we get to see some more alien versus predator I love that your buddies would fade Aalver as of course you are
Starting point is 00:37:05 Everything both of you are doing is incredible Keep up the good work Dan It was been such a pleasure to meet you And I can't wait for more buddy You keep up Thanks dude Yeah go see the movie Go see it in the theater
Starting point is 00:37:17 I'm sick of this Just on Hulu stuff. No offense, Disney lady that's listening. But I want more theater predator. Let's do it. That's a hard sentence to say. Every time we talk about the predator, you're like, oh my God, am I going to get canceled? But you're like, no, I'm talking about the auction. All right. Dan, get out of here. Go, you got your busy man. Go do your work. Thanks, dude. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

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