Last Podcast On The Left - Relaxed Fit: Holiday Magic / Misanthropic Luciferian Order

Episode Date: February 8, 2020

This week, we got a relaxed fit ep that delves into the multi-level marketing scheme Holiday Magic, Brenda Ann Spencer, and the Swedish Satanists behind the Keillers Park Murder.

Do we want to start with the incredibly controversial topic that we wanted to talk about before the show that we were talking about before the show about how none of us see OJ on screen. Is that how we should start the show when we believe that you could separate the murder from the Nordberg? Well that's what we're starting the show with because you know what I'm about to do? Start the show! Welcome to the last podcast on the Left, everyone! Oh my god, are you feeling loosey-goosey?

You got your sweatpants on and your ugg shoes because it's relaxed fit week! That's what it is! Thanks everyone for listening to our Heavens Gate episode. We've got episode 400 coming up next week, it's gonna be fucking gigantic, but as such we need a little bit of time for preparation, so here's a relaxed fit week. Indeed it will be mind-blowing. I want to thank the person who made the meme with Bob Barker saying make sure to get your cult member spayed and neutered because I stand by that and I almost think we should end

every episode with make sure to get your cult member spayed and neutered when it's done. You're not a lot of foursome anymore, Heavens Gate show that you can make them make the decisions for themselves, which is I think technically the art of the deal. It really is. So were there any, did we get any pushback from the Heavens Gate? I feel like there was no, usually there's always someone being like, you know, actually there was whatever, but I feel like everything was pretty much right. We did our job, I know that there's another massive Heavens Gate podcast, it was like

a 10 parter podcast that was done, I think it's just called Heavens Gate, that's like the closest thing that I got pointed towards us, but it's more, it's very much so focusing on the lives of the other members and we were more delving into the mind of Marshall Applewhite. I'm sure there's many things to be gleaned from there, but we got a lot of great emails of people saying stuff like pictures outside of the San Diego house where they were all dead, which is fun to have our listeners just outside, just taking pictures inside of this just random person's home. Right, well that's the question, do you, first of all, if you are one of our listeners,

do not hunt whoever lives there with their camera outside like you're pecker into John Waters movie. I'm not gonna tell you not to though, because I did it for years and I still do it. What did you do for years? I look in famous quote unquote famous homes all the time, I look in the windows, I look in the trash. When did you do that? Back in the day, I definitely did it, especially when I did my own true crime walk through

for the, when I did it for last podcast. Henry's Hollywood Adventure. And then I've done it separately with other friends where you go and you look eluid also, so Natalie and I still go and do that. Every time we're on tour, where there's a scary place or there's like a true crime locale, Natalie go see it. But does someone still live there? Always.

Huh, no kidding. Well that does beg the question, do you think that the price of the house went up, the price of the heavens get suicide home, did it go up or did it go down? Always goes down. Although nowadays they have that murder flip house, which we brought into reality, you're welcome world, not sure if you should be thanking us, but whatever. I think nowadays, whoever lives there, you gotta flip it, because that's big time. Put a museum like, make it a Colton Museum.

That could be a very good place for one. Interesting. Well, I mean museums made out of murder houses, it's definitely been tried in the past. Remember they were gonna do it with Ed Gein's house, but the townsfolk burned it down rather than let that happen. I mean bad is ever going to happen to a town when the townsfolk burned down the home of their most nefarious killer, nothing bad could ever happen, that doesn't put a curse on your whole town.

You know, I think that if more cult leaders, I know I think more people who have these types of true crime properties went more in the angle of Roswell, what Roswell did with the alien kind of pop culture movement where they embraced it, go for class lists, screw your neighbors, your house had 39 people commit suicide in it, you put a Heaven's Gate roller coaster on that property there, it's gonna just go straight up and then straight down, like just one big and then it releases everybody, you have to put the frocks on them, that'd be incredible, just stay tasteless. So you want them to do what Ernest P. Whirl did with his Halloween house, you just want

to make it an adventure park? Yes. Well, I know the Museum of Death, if those of you who live out in LA, if you've never been there before. Or New Orleans as well. Or to the one in New Orleans. The New Orleans one is also cool, but the one in LA, they actually have a little Heaven's Gate room, they were able to get a hold of one of the bunk beds and they also have a very

tasteless display of all various Heaven's Gate artifacts, but yeah, if you're out there in Los Angeles, go check it out at the Museum of Death, very cool. I've heard a little birdie, I heard rumor that I think it might be closing, Museum of Death, Museum of Death in LA, so if you are in LA and it's still open, go and support them before it's over, because it's such an incredible resource. If anybody over at the Museum of Death listens, we'd love to figure out how we can help at least keep a pop-up open or something. Absolutely do, Brian.

If you're listening, send me an email and we'll figure it out. Of course, and we would love to do a Patreon interview with you as well, we've done that with people who collect things of the McCubb before, and that will be very exciting. Speaking of Patreon, on last week's side stories, Henry missed the Super Bowl and we were talking about why he missed the Super Bowl, it's because he needed to eat banana cream pudding, that's not a joke, that is Henry's reality. It's not just the Super Bowl, remember, it is the last four minutes of the Super Bowl, one of the best Super Bowls in 20 years, and he opted-

I don't got to curse the ball, I didn't bring my talent, you could infer from the way the game was being played that the last four minutes were going to be very important to the rest. He couldn't even- The words that came out of my mouth, literally the words that came out of my mouth, the four minutes in, four minutes at the end, ten minutes left, four minutes left, ten points, four dinars were written by ten points. I literally looked at it and said, their spirits are broken, let's go, Natalie, let's sleep. I said the words like I was completely wrong, I got my, I secured my bag, I got my banana pudding, I took it to the car and I consumed it as fast as humanly possible.

Now maybe this, maybe this question has been asked already on side stories, but I'm curious, what was Natalie doing while you were consuming the banana pudding? She just stared forward, she just stared forward, she supported me, she had her, you know, like what is she going to do? I mean, I'm driving. Yeah, that's called Stockholm Syndrome. So because Henry loves pudding so much and he loves, you know, reading news of the macabre, there will be a new Patreon bonus episodes, they won't be that long, maybe five or ten

minutes. Put, what is it, pudding time with Henry? Well, I will see what comes out. I was going to keep it as a low level surprise and see whether or not I'll be doing more pudding content. Well, I think now we have to make that a reality, so it's a different pudding every, every time you record, I want a different pudding because it's half about the pudding review. I know, but I can't be having this much put on a regular basis, I need, I need to, like,

I can't, there's no, you can't go and put cossus, you know what I mean, you can't just eat pudding until your body shifts in a new place where you're living a healthier life, it's not like keto. No. Do bi-weekly, how's about that, you can, you can stand a cup of pudding every other week. Even less. Amen. I didn't even finish the entire, well, no, this bad ad pudding, I really went to town

because it was real good, but now it isn't like bananas. Ah, the banana pudding is my favorite pudding, you know, I'm a Texas boy, so of course I love good banana pudding. See, this is why everyone's like, oh, I want to start a podcast, what do I talk about? Well, there you go. Now, if you want some good pudding in Abilene, Texas, head on over to Betsy Rose's Barbecue, they got the best banana pudding in the whole town. Really?

We at least are not a part of the novelty podcast movement, there are so many of these novelty podcasts, but you can't even get one going now if you're an amateur podcast or dude in a pudding podcast, and that's to be like Glenn Close or something, now they're having people show like, Helen Mirren's gonna have a pudding contest next week, who fucking knows what this shit? Oh my goodness, well, she is beautiful at any age, dare I say, more beautiful now than she ever has been. A little bit later on in this episode, Henry is gonna, or Marcus, rather, is gonna tell

us a tale of Mirdare, so it won't all be pudding talk folks, but we will get to a black metal murder here coming up in the very near future, so make sure you stick around for that. Dissection. Dissection. Can I talk about this thing that I became obsessed with that Natalie sent me? Well, I had one question, is Norbert Jewish? Now, that I don't know, and that does beg the question, how much can you laugh with Norbert in the naked gun before you're being insensitive to the Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman families?

That shot when he, in number, it's two, right, when he's in the wheelchair and he goes down the steps. That's one. I mean, that's the best. It's really funny. When he gets shot on the boat, I love you, was it, I love you? Forget the name of the boat, I think it was, I love you. And when he gets shot like 10 times and then ends up like...

Yeah, with it, you know, he gets, you know, his head bombed, he gets, you know, he accidentally gets pushed up against a wall of fresh paint, like, that, we, me, you and Eddie have had many a conversation about the funniness of that scene. But now that I think about it, why did we even have a trial in Los Angeles for the murder of those two innocent people? We should have just enacted all the naked gun comedic scenes, but in real life. Because then you could just shoot him a bunch, put the wedding cake out there, have him burn his hand.

If that all happened to him, if you went down, if he's spelunked down that hill, remember that entire scene where he was just, that was like 20 minutes in the movie. That was in two and a half. That was in two and a half. Yeah. And he really just... What? Is he Jewish?

I don't... I don't... I don't seem to remember a joke in 33 and a third of him being Jewish. Nah. Okay. Not good. I'm just checking. That's good.

As we learned in Uncut Gems, there's a lot of African-American Jewish folks, and of course a Murray Stottemeyer. He was a New York Nick, a great Phoenix son, a horrible New York Nick, but he is also Jewish, so it is possible that Norberg is Jewish as well. Quite possibly. I don't know. Either way, we should have done... You know what?

And if he is, it makes me like him better. Norberg. Norberg. Separate OJ from Norberg. Separate the art from the artist. In this case. Now, before I interrupted myself, I got really into this concept of what is known as large group awareness training.

Natalie sent me this Wikipedia page of this group called Leadership Dynamics, also known as Leadership Dynamics Institute, which was a private for-profit company. It was owned by this guy named William Penn Patrick, because one of those old-school, like, Carnegie-style Americans need to be stalwart or spirit, and need to look forward and drag their fellow man into the future, like really, really intense people who believe that using strict behavioral control, they could inspire business executives to work at higher levels within MLMs, the multi-level marketing. And so they ran for this program called...

He co-ran Leadership Dynamics Institute with this very fuzzy little company called Holiday Magic, which was just the makeup company, like Avon, where you buy in, you get a series of makeups, but you also have to hire people. The idea is that you're also, you're proselytizing while you're selling makeup. It's a pyramid scam. It's got big pyramid schemes, things going on, just pyramid elements. And so what they started doing is these large, they started doing these large group awareness training sessions, where people that were in the upper management of these pyramids,

in order to get the promotions that they were supposed to do, they would have to go, basically they were forbidden to reach a certain level within the company, unless they went and attended one of these Leadership Dynamics Institute's group meetings, these classes that they have to go take. Now, all of this is completely true. So this happened in the 1960s, up to 1973, where they'd go to these kind of remote locations and have three or four days, like kind of like a lock-in, where they are going to go and they are going to do kind of group classes during the day, and they all stay together

at night. It costs $1,000 per person, and it was no refunds. You have to pay for this, and so you're locked in, you have to do it in order to stay within the company. The 1960s money, what would that be, $10,000 by today's dollars? So they show up, thinking it's like this normal process, so there was a movie based on this called The Circle of Power that is absolutely fascinating, and there's a lot of dick in it, there's a lot of fat man dick in it.

But so they show up, they're not supposed to know anything about how LDI works, because it's supposed to be super secretive, because you're not only supposed to get the secrets when you arrive for training. And so the way this book goes out, there was a out of print book called The Pit, a group encounter defiled by Gene Church and Conrad D. Carnes, right, that is about this very specific group, where a guy showed up to like, to the training, so he was told, he was forced by his boss. In order to get his promotion, he had to go to this group training, so he sees his buddy

Bill Schwartz show up, and he's got a fucking black eye, and they ask him like, what's wrong, what's going on, and he's like, huh, nothing, he's like, how was the training session, because he did this training session the week before, he's like, you really gotta see for yourself, buddy. Whoa. And so he was like, okay, what are you doing here, why are you taking it again, he's like, they've asked me to come back and replace one of the assistants that they have in here, we're supposed to replace them, and I'm just gonna step in and do it for the day, and he's

like, okay, so they go into this room, this is the first day, the first night's totally normal, everybody's hanging out, partying, doing ever, kind of like having those like work trip, kind of liaisons. Henry and I, we were in, where the hell were, in Toronto, we were just at the hotel bar, and there was a conference that weekend, and it was the first night of that conference, and I don't know how any of them lived till the next day, because those corporate execs hammered. Woo.

They were hanging on each other. There were a couple, you knew HR, like had a busy morning, on that Friday morning, because we saw a few, like whoa. I was in an elevator with those people, and it was something else. And I believe they worked at Chase Bank, it was a bank. I think so, I remember one guy was so fucked up, because we came back from the show in Toronto, one of the guys was so fucked up, that he tried joining the three of us, having a conversation, because he thought that we were a part of his conference.

Yes. And he was like, he's just hanging around, he just was, because he was black out, and he just straight up, he had no clue where the hell his room was, he had no idea what's going on. So that happened the first night. Okay, so they're just getting hammered, having a good time. So they arrived to the first class, 24 men, men only, they're all in this kind of this gym room, they arrive to a gigantic gymnasium type place, or it's slash conference room,

that has a coffin in it, giant crucifix with a noose hanging from it, a cage, this big dog cage, and a podium wrapped in silk with a genie's lamp on top of it. Right, so they walk through this, they have no clue what's going on. This guy, Ben Gay, is his name, the head instructor. He walks in, total silence. So he walks in, everybody kind of sit milling around, the first thing he does is, you will stand up when I entered this room. Damn, I almost stood up right now, and I know you're just, I know that you're just channeling

him. He resets it up, they all stand up, they're like, okay, because they all had to sign these release forms, as soon as they walked in. Uh-oh, a lot of red flags here. So this came, this is an excerpt from the book. This is from Ben Gay, this is how it starts. You may have noticed some of the things here in the center of the room, that drew a ripple of laughter from the other instructors.

I'd like to take a moment to explain what they are and how we might possibly use them. You see before you a coffin, it's open. Coffins are used to bury people in. It's possible that here in this class, we might have one, two, or more people who are already dead, just don't know about it yet. We find someone like that, we're going to put them inside of this coffin, I'm going to leave them inside there for as long as it takes for them to realize how much it means for them to be alive.

You might have noticed this cage. It might well be that there are people in this room who feel like they are living in cages. They feel panned up inside themselves. We found through experience that by physically putting someone inside this cage and confining them for long periods of time, if necessary, they grow to appreciate the value of the freedom that they already possess. They grow up understanding how much they had before they spent time in this cage.

For those of you that felt at times that you've been persecuted for whatever reason, whether on your job or by your wife or your friends, we're going to let you see what persecution really is. We have a large wooden cross here. It is about eight feet by five feet wide and it wouldn't surprise me if before we finish, one or more of you in this room will have the opportunity to test this cross and see what it feels like to hang on it. You'll also notice a hangman's noose and I'll tell you what, I'll just let your imaginations

work on what we might do with that one. Well, it's pretty simple to understand, I think. But he had a riding crop and a stick on his person. This is a mandatory business meeting. Did he go to like Jigsaw Business College? Why is he making people go through hell so they can feel alive for the first time? It's about scouring your soul of all non truths. What does this have to do with selling makeup?

At one point, aren't you just there and be like, so what does this have to do with Rouge? I've been working on all my different lipstick colors, different shades of red. I have a full... Well, Holiday Magic was just a part of the company that was over, that was kind of the huge umbrella of this entire operation. I've got two questions, Henry. One, is Ben gay an alias or was that his real name? I think it was a real name.

Okay. Well, what about the genie's lamp? Get right here. So the genie's lamp, the silver chalice is what he called it. He said it represents the truth. The truth. Imagine that this room were filled from floor to ceiling wall to wall with shit and the chalice was somewhere inside.

Wait, hold on one second, sir. So I'm supposed to imagine the floor also has shit on it because then am I stepping in the fake shit or just... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, oh man. Your goal is to find it. Chances are strong that when you open the door, you wouldn't even think about entering a room full of shit. This is what happens to people when they look for self honesty.

Man, now that I think about it, that shininess. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The purpose of LDI and what we're going to do is not only help you get into that room but to physically force you inside the room and keep you there until you find the chalice. No matter how long it takes and bring it out with you to act as a guiding light for you for the rest of your life. And so he starts walking out of the room. So remember Bill from the previous session is just sitting in a chair with a black guy.

So Ben walks over to the man and he's like, if it is necessary for us to simply pat you on the back for you to find honesty with yourselves, what do you think we'll do? The class responded, pat him on the back and then patted one of the assistants on the back. He's like, is it necessary to, if it's necessary to kiss someone on the top of his head to make him honest, what will we do? Uh-oh. Kiss him on the head. Sure.

He goes and he kisses the other assistant on the top of the head. Okay. It's like, if it's necessary, gentlemen, for us to beat the shit out of someone until he can't think straight enough to lie, what do you think we're going to do? We don't talk about Fight Club. We don't, I thought the first rule was we don't fight, talk about Fight Club. Listen Goon, listen here's your, chickens will be distributed later. Is there still shit on the ground?

I need you to focus. Okay. So it's like, and so the whole class goes, beat the shit out of him. That's right. He says, he punches Bill in the face, literally dead punches him in the face at the very top of the meeting. And he walks up and he's just like, I'm going to let you guys know if you leave this room, so he sits this all up saying, if you leave this room, you're forfeit a thousand dollars.

And so what we're doing is we're signing partners to everybody. Everybody's now in twos. And if you leave, your partner also has to leave and lose a thousand dollars and you're going to lose your status within this building, right? You're going to lose your status within this company. He's saying this whole time that holiday magic and the leadership dynamics, that holiday magic and the LDI are separate. He's saying they're separate.

They are not separate. They all are co-run. It's all one big giant company. And they all sign this release where they just straight up gave him total allowance to do whatever they want. And then goes on to tell them that they know the emergency room people and that the emergency room people for Palo Alto, where they're close to is very used to setting bones for them. And they've had one person accidentally die during the training doesn't seem so accidental.

So did it, did it work? Did they sell more makeup than anyone else? Because I think no, they got sued out of existence. That makes more sense. But so over the next four days, they will do some of the most brutal shit. One of the fat members of the group, the one guy that was the heaviest, they stripped him nude. No.

All of them making fun. It's my character from fucking boardroom. The old murderfist sketch, which you can find on YouTube. They stripped him nude and made fun of how, how could he even fuck with his gut and they're all like slapping his gut. He made people get him slap his gut. They beat him with a stick. They put him inside the dog cage where they then covered him in food slot, like a piggy.

He's like, this is how piggies eat. This is what piggies do. They made them all do burpees all day. Do these little visits. What do you mean? No, no, no. Burpees. What are you talking about?

That's when you go down and you have to come. You have to pop back up. It's called a burpee. You got to go on all fours. Pop back up. It's a three part process. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We called them. We called them squat thrusts. That sounds so much more erotic than burpees. You were conceived. Yeah. But when I just became fascinated with this, watch the movie Circle of Power because it does a lot.

It breaks down what was in this book and guys were hung on crucifixes for hours where they were tied up to the crucifix and they were beaten with sticks, beaten with riding crops. And all of this was the idea was because the way they start this whole process is being like you're going to lie despite yourself. You're going to lie about your honesty because it was all about scouring yourself. It was getting rid of all your hangups, getting rid of all of your because what it takes to be a truly clear headed pioneer of business is total clarity. It sounds to me a little bit like Wolf of Wall Street meets Lord of the Flies.

Yeah. It's a little bit Jordan Belfort-esque. You're just trying to figure out how to get the most out of people. I would say covering them in human slop like they're a member of the old tag team. The Godwins probably isn't the best idea. As a matter of fact, there was just a WWE match, a dog food match that was with Roman Reigns and Baron Corbin and they put a bunch of dog food on Baron Corbin. I don't know if they thought about this, but it looks like human shit.

Dog food. I remember when they used a berry stone called Steve Austin alive. But he was never buried alive. But yes, indeed. Or at least the undertaker attempted it many times. He did many, many times. But you know, I guess you got to try to bring the best out of people in different kind of ways.

Although this just doesn't seem like it would work at all. It really didn't. It sounds to me what they were trying to do is create the kind of sociopaths that make the most successful CEOs in business. This might be where Martin Scurelli, his dad, found his future. I guess there are no women there. But it seems like a thing that Martin Scurelli would really enjoy, the farmer bro, of course. If you look up William Penn Patrick, he wrote this booklet called Happiness and Success through

Principle that is one of those very right-wing, leaning concepts about the self-made man and what it takes to be the self-made man. It is a very extreme point of view. But all of this was the end of what is essentially what they call the human potential movement. From the 1960s, where people were very into this idea of kind of the concept is it's cognitive therapy, which is that people can change their lives by interpreting the way they view external circumstances. Instead of blaming things on things outside of yourself, it's all about putting all the

blame on yourself and trying to figure out how do I get the most out of me. Which is, there's a bunch of people that studied, they didn't believe that human beings were only living up to 10% of their potential, which just kind of came out of it. Which is what's been skewed, but with the fake term that we only use 10% of our brains, that is not real. It is a weird, deformed version of this idea that we only are living up to 10% of our potential just in our lives. Believe it or not, folks, this is humans at 100%, baby.

We are, I almost, I wish we were only using 10%, so we had a potential of 90% growth, but we are, we're maxed out. We're firing on all cylinders here. This is the most we can do. We nailed it. But they, obviously they closed leadership dynamics once it was sued out of fucking existence and what, you can see how it ends in the book, in the movie Circle of Power. I wish I could get a copy of the book, A Group Encounter Defiled, but it's out of print.

But they called it the pit, because what they would do when they sensed dishonesty, they got people so worked up that they were people on the side of the instructors as well. Well that's what I was going to ask. There must have been, there's always that one stooge. There's always a Briscoe dude, where that's an old WWE reference, Gerald Briscoe, but there's always someone who is just like, I'll take the, I'll punch him first, and they just like love it. Those people tend to become senators, they tend to become very powerful.

You develop these little mini colts, temporary colts almost in this area, but I now know that they are large group awareness training sessions, they don't involve beating everybody, and this is at the peak of its most extreme, and the reason why they had the pit was that when they believed, when one person would call out another person, they'd form the pit, which was the center between all of them, where they would beat the fuck out of each other. And of course, if you want to go to one of those training sessions now, you can sign up for UCB improv classes, one through five, I mean they will teach you how to lead, and

indeed you will pick. They're too weak to use corporal punishment. So this is very much like the corrective areas for Scientology, when they, do you remember when they tied all of the different trailers together, and the weird office parks, where they put people in trash cans, and dumped cold water all over each other? Yeah. David Miscavige is, I would almost pay to get screamed at him though, just to experience that kind of rage and energy, because he's so tiny.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes, if you want a great example of that, Justin Trudeau's, my Scientology movie does a good job. Also, on last week's side stories, or I guess this week's side stories rather, we talked about the Monday, I Hate Monday's Killer, that's Brenda Spencer, she's a golden girl, she's over 55, so I said we were going to get a little bit more insight on the music, because of course Marcus has a great music podcast, No Dogs in Space, and you know all

about Bob Geldoff's very bizarre, very bizarre work. We'll talk about that in one second, but before we get to that, here's one piece of information about Miss Spencer you may not have known, yes it's 16, she said she hated the police, yes she said she wanted to go on a rampage and kill a bunch of people, but she also won first prize in the Humane Society competition for photography. Yeah. So there you go, she had a lot of talent in photography, and she should have just done that, as opposed to sniping a bunch of kids.

You're right. Yeah, she didn't actually kill any kids, she sniped eight, she definitely hit eight, but the only people she killed, she killed the principal and the janitor, who were trying to get the kids out of the way, I guess they were, I mean to put it very crudely, I mean larger targets, so she was able to hit them a lot easier, but she was sniping from her house across the street from the elementary school, and she was using a rifle that her father had bought for her for Christmas when she had asked for a radio, he instead bought her a fucking Ruger semi-automatic, 22 rifle with a telescopic sight, and 500 rounds of

ammunition. Wait a sec, she asked for a radio? She asked for a radio and he bought me a gun, that's the quote from her, because she said that her father was trying to get her to kill herself. What? Well, someone was going on, of course after the shooting she says, as the reason why I don't like Mondays, this livens up the day, that's what she said. Yeah, because there was a reporter that was just calling random houses in the neighborhood,

and she ended up answering the phone, and when she asked her, you know, why are you doing this, she said, I don't like Mondays, livens up the day, and of course later that year Bob Geldof, who was then the leader of the Boomtown Rats, who are an Irish punk band, but you know they kind of went into more of a poppy territory, wrote I don't like Mondays, that song was number one in the UK for four weeks straight. Did people... Huge hit. Did people know that it was based off of this murder?

Absolutely. So, and that was already, because we talk about like the true crime boom, how weird it is, but remember... This has been going on for a minute. Hey man, nice shot. That was based off of the senator blowing his brains out, the Grunge classic. Oh, Bud Dwyer. Bud Dwyer.

The man who was in charge of the finances there. Yeah. There were plenty of bands around that time that were writing songs about killers, like The Dead Boys had a pretty good song about Son of Sam, so there were some punk artists that were getting into all this shit, but yeah, Bob Geldof wrote, I don't like Mondays, it was a huge hit in the UK, huge hit in Ireland, did not hit the top 40 in the United States, but it did get a lot of radio play everywhere except San Diego, where all of this happened. So, Bob Geldof like later, and Bob Geldof, you know, he eventually went on to do like

live aid. Okay, can I, I personally, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bob Geldof is one of the biggest scam artists in music history, right, because no one got any money from live aid. Yeah, I mean that there's a lot of debate as to what Bob Geldof did with all the money for live aid, and whether he paid any taxes on the money, and if it is actually a scam or not, or if him and Bono are laughing their way to the bank, because Bob Geldof works with Bono quite a bit. Such a scammer.

Bob, Bono is the musical version of Mother Teresa. He's a scammer, he's a liar, he ain't helping the poor. But Bob Geldof, after I don't like Mondays became a hit, the killer, what's her name, Spencer? Spencer, Brenda Spencer. Brenda Spencer wrote him a letter thanking him for writing the song, because he made her famous, and he did not feel good about that, but it's hard because that's, I mean, you know, technically it's the business we're in as well, it just works, and technically

it's inspiration, and it worked, and she did it to be super snarky, and they're a punk band. Well, it's a very, I mean, it's not a punk song, it's a very heartfelt piano bass song, and I actually, I love the song, it's great, and it is like a very heartfelt exploration of a tortured mind, because Brenda Ann Spencer did have temporal lobe damage. She had gotten into a bicycle accident, her brain just wasn't fucking put together right, you know, it was firing on some bad cylinders, and she had also been abused horribly, you know, growing up, like she had a bad fucking life, and you know, Bob Geldof wrote a pretty

heartfelt song about that, you know, she definitely needs to be held responsible for, you know, including eight children and killing two adults, but it's a great little exploration into a sick mind, and the Boomtown Rats, like, as far as punk bands go, they're alright, like looking out for number one's pretty good, but if you want to hear real, the, but if you want to hear the real fucking story of British punk, we have an upcoming series on the damned, On No Dogs in Space, we just recorded the first episode, it's fucking great, can't wait for it to come out, it's gonna be coming out, series after next, it's gonna be very fucking cool.

Alright, keep on supporting, yeah, keep on supporting, no dogs in space, well, speaking of music, what do you think, H-Bone, should we have Marcus regale us with a certain tale of death metal? Yes, please. Oh yeah. Do it. Well, of course, everyone heard our Norwegian Black Metal episodes, of course, about all of the murders that happened way back in the day with Varg Vikernis and Euronymous and

all those guys, but there were further murders, past those, past the ones that everybody knows about. Were they copycat murders or? No, but it was in the same scene, like it was other Black Metal musicians that also figured, hey, I can kill a guy too, and one of the most fascinating involved the guy named Jön Nütvite. Rolls off the top. I think it's a very common name there.

I don't know. Jön Nütvite was a Swedish Black Metal musician who murdered a man named Josef Ben Medor in Gothenburg, Sweden in July of 1997, in what was most likely a homophobic hate crime, much like the murder that Black Metal musician Faust committed in Lillihammer in 1992. Of course, Faust was involved in all the church burnings that were happening way back then. However, while the murder Faust committed was purely homophobic, Nütvite was one of those dudes who took his own brand of goofy satanism so seriously that it probably had at least something to do with the murder of Josef Ben Medor.

When you say goofy satanism, what does that mean? I'll get into how goofy this satanism is, because it does have its own flavor. The Nütvite, besides being a member of the melodic Black Death metal band Dissection, was also a known member of the Temple of Black Light, aka the misanthropic Luciferian order. Aka the light that sees all the come on your bed. Yes, yes, the snowman light. And he was also a member of a Swedish street gang called the Werewolf Legion. No!

I thought a Swedish street gang was just called Kerala's. Now the M.L.O., the misanthropic Luciferian order, is a far cry from the sort of satanism practiced by people like Anton LeVe, as Nütvite absolutely despised LeVe and everything America's Church of Satan stood for. What was the, he doesn't like the power-bottom thing, what was the issue? Elsa Crowley was the power-bottom, Anton LeVe just poorly kept a lion, that's his whole thing. He liked the big boobies, he liked big old boobies and he liked to suck on them as much

as possible. Okay. Well Anton LeVe's satanism, it's more of like a philosophical thought exercise, wrapped in fun ritual. Would you say that's fair, Henry? I would say yes, it is definitely the campier form of satanism, which is the idea of playing with character and ritual all at the same time, they understand that you can be bigger than yourself and be sort of like an almost cartoonish kind of, I don't know how you could

even put it, it's like, he puts the fun in it and the showmanship in it. It's fun because Anton LeVe was a former circus barker, hell of a Kalei people player. Really? Yeah, absolutely. And I think with the American satanism with the church of satan, like satan is a metaphor, like satan, they're not actually worshiping like the actual Luciferian satan, they don't believe that God exists and satan exists and you know, they can pray to satan for favors and such, like it's all a game essentially.

You're using satan as like an allegorical term for the forever adversary, for the maligned one, for the person who's never had their story told and then what I talk about a little bit in the last book on the left about the concept of we that God in the original story in the Genesis story, God in the original Genesis story, the serpent, the only the real knowledge that it reveals is that humans are just pets for God. And that what it shows that we are kept like a little pen, the Garden of Eden, which is kind of like a pen, and that what it is, is that it's supposed to be about, it's a thought experiment about putting us on the same level as God.

Well, it's also a thought experience about having sex with your family, which is now apparently what Pornhub is continuing. You're really obsessed with this. It is disgusting, I don't know why it's happening. You bring it up every two weeks because I look at Pornhub and it's always the first page and I don't want to talk about it anymore. Well, I have just gone, I've gone past, you just got to change your algorithm. I don't click on it.

Well, what you need to do is you just pay for Pornhub and then you can tailor it to your own tastes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, the thing is about the MLO is that they thought of themselves as full on magicians, more in line with self-styled sorcerers like Alistair Crowley, because these guys actually

did believe in Satan as a person you could talk to. A person that you could ask favors from and Satan would listen and grant you those favors if you did the rituals correctly. But seen as how they were so serious, they even took the fun parts of Crowley and magic out of the equation. Like, there wasn't like, you know, white stains and all of the fun sex stuff. It was just serious. Not even with the black light, huh?

No white stains then, even, huh? I will say, I've gotten some further information on Thilema and the concept of some of the sex stuff was actually allowed out to shadow some more of this, more serious principles. But Alistair Crowley actually, he kind of leaned in to all of the, more of the people painting him as this grand pervert, like this like ultimate heat nest as a, essentially a screen for the real work that went past. And it's very interesting because we say that the idea is that they talk about the sword and the cop being the dick and the pussy.

It's more that the sword is the tongue and the cop is the mouth. Well you never know, I just see a sword and I see a cop. We just do that? So during my and Caroline's wedding, when we did the sword and the cop and you just saw the sword and the cop, you did not see any beautiful symbolism there? I have no idea why you stabbed that cop. It's about fucking. Oh, no kidding.

Well, the MLO, their brand of Satanism is somewhere between ritualistic magic and the sort of things believed by serial killer Richard Ramirez. See Ramirez believed that the 14 absolutely brutal murders he committed made Satan happy because Satan was Richard's imaginary friend going all the way back to his teenage years. I mean, of course, it's an excuse and everything and it's just Richard Ramirez switching, you know, the Catholic God of his childhood with, you know, the Catholic Satan. So he wouldn't have to feel bad about murdering people who you just kind of give in to his most base impulses, but still it was seeing Satan as a very real figure.

Furthermore, Ramirez also lived his life completely on the fringes of society because he believed Satanism set him apart from the squares and the MLO believed very much the same. They believed that a true Satanist can't be a part of modern society because modern society is founded upon lies. Oh, yes. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Watch Above Majestic.

I just did. There's a lot of lies in there. Like, did you even, did you know that Abraham Lincoln could suck his own cock? There's a lot of lies that we've been taught by schools. Interesting. In fact, they think that the very fabric of what we perceive to be reality is a lie in and of itself because they believe that the state of capital C chaos being infidimensional and pandimensional is the true state of being rather than our paltry perception, which only

allows for three spatial dimensions and one linear time dimension. Do you get that, Ben? I mean, I get that they are just sitting in a basement somewhere thinking about this stuff. It does sound like a mishmash of also some discordianism as well with the worship of chaos. Yeah. They call it neo-nosticism.

All right. Good lord. Fucking, call me when you've roasted your own coffee beans. All right. And then we'll start throwing around the fancy names. That is chaos. Life from your grave. Life from your grave.

As far as I can tell, the MLO believed that one could reach that plane of chaos through what else but misanthropy. And some, like Knutwiet and others in the MLO, started believing that murder was the height of misanthropy or so I assume. I don't know that for certain. That's just what I'm inferring from their actions and their words. Okay. Yes.

It seems that the idea of doing something that's so, which I actually kind of understand because what it does is those kind of actions, they do isolate you from humankind. You're breaking the ultimate taboos, which is kind of like why we see a lot of serial killer sliding to cannibalism where they, at least they all admit to cannibalism or they want to tell you that they're cannibal to get some kind of fucking reaction on you because it's the ultimate fucking deviancy. Right, right. Except these guys are using misanthropy as a way to like supercharge their rituals.

Okay. They believe that being a misanthrope gives them power because that's their whole belief system being a misanthrope causes chaos. When you cause chaos, you're able to reach the plane of chaos for some reason. These are the kind of guys- Look at this. I went to, there's a pepper section. I wanted to buy some fresh peppers to make some salsa, but they threw a couple of habaneros

in with my jalapeno bag and they don't even know, charge me for just the jalapenos. Oh no, it's a bit of power for the devil, ultimate chaos. Well, I had a girlfriend break up with me in college. Jeff said this on the shirt because she told me that she was a misanthrope and she broke up with me in a graveyard and she said, she hated all humankind and that's why we couldn't date anymore. And it turns out she was just dating some six foot guy as well. This is a strange way of calling you fat, it's a very, oh you're a misanthrope.

Did it work out between them? No, no, no. He was huge due to that. She's got a happy family now I think. Yeah, no. That was actually, that's one of the nicest excuses that a person can give. It's not you. It's not everyone.

Yeah. I hate all humankind. Yeah, she tried, but I knew it was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I understand. Well, in other words, John Nuitvite and his buddy Vlad, who are at the topics of today's discussion, got way into Dark Magician LARPing and that fantasy world that they created quite possibly gave them the justification they needed to murder.

LARPing started this? Well, I mean, that's the thing, it is, well, I mean you could call it LARPing, but on the other hand, there are still Christians, the world over to this day, that use the Bible as justification for killing gay people. Oh, absolutely. I mean, look no further than fucking Uganda. I mean, this shit happens all over the world. Well, quick side note, if you, the evangelical community in this country do have some power,

but they have a lot of power in places like Africa, they get a lot of people elected, and that is why they're so nefarious and so awful. They still passed legislation, they just passed legislation this past year that allowed the murdering of gay people in African countries. So they are horrible and very powerful still, despite the fact they are slightly on the outskirts of our modern society. That's right. But very, very intense LARPing has led to some of the worst crimes in human history.

Like the Nazis, you'd go as far as almost call them as an extreme LARP at some point. An extreme LARP? An extreme LARP, where they went to because they started with their sort of theosophical views, if you believe in the whole occult side of Nazism, which we've covered before in our white people nerds episodes we did a very, very long time ago, but there's something about these thought processes, especially some of this extreme dark magic, because it becomes very fascist-like. Yes.

It's a lot of it really, it really attracts that type of mentality, like people who think that like we're going to bully people and that actually gives us power. Well I found out. It does for a while, but what it ends up doing is also creates a bunch of people supremely mad at you and you're creating enemies, which they also believe is what charges them up. I have decided I'm going to change my Pornhub algorithm by searching extreme LARP and just see what that gives me. I'm just going to search it every day for a month and see what the front page looks

like from here on out. Have you never explored the cosplay category? You should. It's very recent. It's a lot of fun. I actually, I don't care. You don't? I don't like it.

Have you ever? It's not- Have you ever been on Woodrocket? No. What is Woodrocket? It's a good one. I don't want to always spread all of my porn secrets, but it's a good one. It's innocent.

It's like nice. The cosplay stuff is just strange to me. Why is it strange? I just like chill humans. It's fantasy. I like human beings. You've got to get some imagination now. They're not just animals.

They're not just animals. No, they can also cosplay as other like hot chick characters. No, I know it's all Harley Quinn and stuff. I got it. I know that. Yeah, that's part of it. I mean, Riley Reed as Harley Quinn is pretty nice, man. It is.

I'll also just watch Riley Reed as Riley Reed. Yeah, but it's fun when they're using a voice. She also has a great- But I'm a character. Yeah. Riley Reed has a good podcast, as a matter of fact, about pornography. No, she hasn't. I love Riley Reed.

She's wonderful. I'll check it out. Imagine me in a porn just going, it's me. I'm Mario. Yeah? Yeah. Well, I'm so happy you showed up, Mario, because my toilet needs some plumbing. Yeah.

I was doing a scene with the King of Cooper. Oh, no. No, this is not the plumbing I wanted to do today. Yeah, I got a lot of shit in my pipes. Oh, no. It is a bitch. Well, the occult ceremonies of the misanthropic Luciferian order, and by the way, Jon Notewite narrated every single occult ceremony.

He was the guy, he was the guy that was reading all the instructions. He was reading all, he was doing all the incantations and all that shit. All right. These ceremonies included meditations, invocations of demons, they even fucking sacrificed cats, which they bought from classified ads. Leave them alone. So you had these fucking black metal guys calling up numbers and showing up at someone's door for cats.

Nothing's tough about killing a cat. Whatever you fucking want to do, buddy. I mean, it's against it, but they don't understand they're not actually doing anything within magic by killing cats. No, you're just beating me into a cat. Yeah, exactly. But that's the thing. It's part of their cosplay.

It's part of their LARP, where it's like they are doing something that is wrong, that is taboo, and it makes them feel good. But isn't LARPing in cosplay the illusion of violence and the illusion of war? If you really start doing it, you're just killing a cat. I don't know. It's your cosplay. If you're Deadpool and you actually shoot a bunch of people, it doesn't mean you're Deadpool.

No. It doesn't mean you're Deadpool. No, I know, but if you say I'm Deadpool and I'm playing like I'm going to shoot a bunch of people, but then you really shoot a bunch of people, that's like what they just did because they actually killed the cat. But you're not Deadpool. If I tape a bunch of knives to my fucking fist and stab someone, I'm not Wolverine. They would call you the Wolverine killer.

They would. I mean, they would. So you would kind of be Wolverine. Yeah, in a way you are Wolverine. In a way you are. If you do believe that you're Wolverine. So yes, this is, now I'm completely lost because you're technically weirdly correct. But there was one other dude in the MLO who was taken all this bullshit just as seriously

as Yone. His real name was Victor Draconi, but his MLO name was Nemesis Coshnude Sheriff's. Although most people just called him Vlad. It's just hard to get somebody to say, if you're gonna make up your own nickname, it needs to be short. Yes, definitely. It can't be long. Well, no, it's, but Nemesis Coshnude Sheriff's is great for ceremonies.

Sure. Dost thou concur Nemesis Coshnude Sheriff's? Yes. Yes, I do. I do think we should get salads from chopped. Yes, because I have had a lot of bread this week and I can really use some greens. Bop stock is down again because people are off their diets. That's terrible.

But actually either any one of those names could be good for a ceremony like Dost thou concur. Dost thou concur Frata Victor Draconi. Yeah. You know what they're horrible for? You know what they're horrible for? Job interviews. That's what they're horrible for.

You know what you need jobs in order to make money and I understand. They probably have enough money. It's like a face tattoo. You're getting it to ease the burden of getting jobs. You better be able to. You don't want, you don't want to get these jobs. You better be able to rap. That's all I'm going to say.

Shane Smith, who's a fan of the show, has got a lot of face tattoos this half his bit. Okay. I mean, I am not against a good face tattoo, honestly. If you're committed and if your lifestyle fits it, you can also monetize it, not to be like Mr. Capitalist, but you can. My tattoo artist, Timmy B, has wonderful face tattoos. I know. I'm still mad you're covering up the bad tattoo though.

I know. I like his bad tattoo. Hey, Timmy's doing some fucking great work. It's amazing. Of course. What's the name of his tattoo shop? Night Owl Tattoos out there in Northampton, Massachusetts. They do fucking great work there and they're all listeners of the show.

So thank you very much for listening. Night Owl, I'll be back soon. Hi, Night Owl Tattoos. I have a tattoo I'd like to get. Yeah, it's on my body. You going to get a tattoo? No, I'm not going to get any tattoos. My whole body is a series of stories.

I'm good. So in the weeks leading up to the murder, Vlad had been getting more and more fanatical and it was his idea that the group should perform a series of human sacrifices and follow it up with a big old group suicide. Oh, Jesus. Because that's going to be what Satan likes the most. But then- Absolutely. You're trying to be the most misanthropic as possible, killing yourself is the best

way to show how much you hate yourself and everybody else. Okay. Now some of the members of the MLO, like Notewite, were totally into it and those that were ready to go attended a meeting at Notewite's apartment where they made a list of possible victims for sacrifice. Among the targets for assassination were Notewite's girlfriend, members of Notewite's band Dissection, and a former member of the MLO who decided that the life just wasn't for him.

So it seems to me guys that we're just killing our friends, have we thought about going maybe heads of state, maybe we should take them out or the police commissioner. But do you remember like when you first brought, your first brought that new basis when back in the Kalman days, you know that new basis that he's in there and he's kind of just kind of a free-willing guy who just likes eating pussy and you know, just like a normal dude and all of a sudden you're just like playing with stuff and you're like, so I've been thinking of this new like super dark base run that we could do for Vlad the destroyer, you know, track two and stuff.

Wait a second, did I just over here, you guys say that you're going to fucking kill me bro? I have a shift at the coffee shop in like six hours, I can't fucking leave them in a lurch. I love your, I love your Norwegian Hispanic accent, it's like no one happened. I mean Dissections, I mean they're pretty good. Are they? As far as that genre goes, you know, melodic black death metal. I like melodic death metal.

I like the melodic black metal a little bit more than the straight noise black metal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, actually you'd really love, you'd really love dissection, check them out. Yeah. The check out the somber lane or storm of the lights bane, both of those are pretty good. Okay. Now as it goes, most of the people in the MLO were just there because it was something

fun to do. Sure. Like magic's a real fun hobby for a lot of people. It is. And the people who were just into the ritualistic nature of the MLO wanted no part of actual murder or mass suicide. They're like, we're fucking out guys. We're not because they didn't want to die and they didn't want to kill anyone.

I'm literally just trying to get laid here bro. Yeah, that's it. That's it. I'm just in a metal band. But even with the defections, murder was still very much on Vlad and Nutvite's mind in the weeks and months leading up to the death of Yosef Ben Medor. On the night of July 22, 1997, Nutvite and Vlad were walking home after a night of drinking when they were stopped by a man asking if they were Satanists based on how they were

dressed. It was a pickup line. Yes, I am. How do you know? The man's name was Yosef Ben Medor. And when Nutvite and Vlad said they were indeed Satanists, Medor said he wanted to know more about their cult. At first they declined, but when Medor insisted, they invited him back to Nutvite's place.

Now I've seen this hotel documentary before. This is a really good role, this is the way to do this. Two Satanists, no cups because they don't have any dishes. But while they were on their way, it became obvious that Medor was gay and unbeknownst to the musicians, the place where they'd met him so late at night was a well-known gay hookup spot. So Medor was correct to make assumptions here. Two homophobes and a gay bar, accidentally?

It wasn't a gay bar, it was like a park. This was back in the days like in the early 90s when there weren't a whole lot of gay bars around, so gay guys would sometimes have to go to gay hookup spots like parks or restops or wherever because they couldn't be seen in public. They couldn't be seen in a public place. In order to hide their sexuality, they would have to introduce themselves into these highly dangerous situations which a lot of times would end up in either savage beatings or just straight-up fucking murder.

It's so sad. It's very sad. It's very sad. And glad things aren't quite as bad today. And of course, being terrible people, Vlad and Nutvite got all angry and offended when they finally figured it out, and by the time they got to Nutvite's house, Medor refused to go inside. They said, I'm not having any fucking part of this, you guys aren't into it, I'm not

into it, I'm just gonna go. So Nutvite and Vlad said they'd be more than happy to continue their discussion of Satanism at nearby Keillers Park, and it's assumed that Medor felt as if he didn't have a choice. We don't really know what Medor was thinking at this point. But isn't like, all they want to do is freak out the squares. At this point, being gay is still edgy, it's still, you know, not necessarily a mainstream unsexual ideology. No, it's super.

It's the ultimate fucking deviance of the time, you figured that they would all work together. That's the weird, like, I didn't know there was a homophobic bend to Satanism, because aren't they supposed to be opposite of evangelical or religious? Well the first thing, the right wing, weird shit. Exactly. Weird. Well the first thing about it is that like Satanism as a concept is far reaching.

There's a lot of different brands of Satanism, just like there's a lot of different brands of Christianity. And second of all, as Henry said, a lot of these Norwegian black battle guys, it's right wing shit. These are right wing dudes. They're actually very conservative, and there's also a masculinity aspect to it, where they believe that they must be masculine in order to, I don't know, in order to impress their fucking buddies.

Hey man, the leather bar I was at during Christmas that my brother loves to go to was very masculine. I'll tell you that. You're very masculine. Very masculine. Very masculine. Yeah, but there was the idea that, you know, if you're gay, then you're not a man. And then they, of course, took it even further by saying, if you're gay, you're subhuman.

We identify as Archie Bunker Satanist. You know, we just think he's got a lot of funny jokes and some good truths, too. Back in simpler times, that's when it was fun when you could say all the fun words and all the bad stuff and still watch my football game. Yep. And worship Satan. There are just between one man and one woman and a goat. Well, Medor said, all right, fine, I'll go to the park with you.

But before they left, Notewite went inside his house and grabbed both a taser and a pistol. Then once they got to the park out of public view, Notewite handed the gun to Vlad and tased Yosef and Medor. Medor tried running away, but Vlad shot him in the back before handing the gun back to Notewite so he could finish the job with a final shot to the head. Shot him in the fricking back as well. Just insult to injury on that.

Yeah, cowards. The jazz move. Now, the two might have gotten away with it, if not for the fact that Vlad was an even bigger piece of shit than he'd already proved to be. In December, he beat his girlfriend half to death and threatened to kill her. But he did this after telling her about the murder he committed the previous July. He was proud of it. Of course.

Yeah, of course. You gotta tell someone, or did it even happen? So the girlfriend went to the police station and spilled the beans about the shooting of Yosef Ben Medor in Keeler Spark. And when the cops arrested Notewite, they found a human skull in his apartment and tacked on a charge of possession of human parts. Did, where did that come from? No idea.

No idea. It's good to know. In New York, with weed, where it's like you could have the body parts, but you can't make purchase the body parts or smoke the body parts in public. Yeah, you're saying was the skull decriminalized? Yes. Well, both Notewite and Vlad were convicted, but since this was Sweden and their criminal punishment system is lax to say the least, they only received sentences of ten years,

and both of them were out in seven. That's the issue between over-incarcerating and under-incarcerating. You've got to find that sweet spot, and that is a sour spot to me. You know, I bet the Germans have the sweet spot. If we're looking around for criminals, I don't know. Well, they've improved. The modern Germans, I would say. Yes, of course.

The modern Germans. Well, they definitely, I think they went extreme one end, and now anything that they do on the other end helps kind of pull it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now they do have a fairly decent criminal justice system now. Well, following their release from prison, Notewite called up his buddies in dissection and got the band back together. Oh, what a Blues Brothers story.

Cool. And in 2006, they recorded an album co-written by the Magister Templi of the misanthropic Luciferian Order, named the album Rain Chaos. Now, they're still together? Uh, no, because later that- Not the band, but the group. The group? As far as I know.

I mean, all of this was like 2006, haven't heard it, and I'll get here in a little bit the last thing that I heard from them. But yeah, they might still be together, I don't fucking know. But later that year, Notewite was found dead in his apartment inside a circle of candles, killed by a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Open in front of him was a satanic grim war named the Lieber-Azerate, which was written by the same dude who wrote the lyrics for dissection's last album. Wow.

He didn't even write his own lyrics? Well, no, the Magister Templi co-wrote the lyrics to Rain Chaos with Notewite. As far as his motivations for killing himself went, we can surmise those from Notewite's earlier statements about suicide. This is the dumbest shit I ever heard. Okay, really? We've been recording for a long time. This must be really good.

He believed that a true satanist must kill themselves when they have reached the peak of their lives in order to transcend this earthly existence and become a demon or something. He makes Marshall Applewhite seem the reasonable one. You know what though, what a good way to convince your asshole buddy to commit suicide. He has been spouting his dumb horse shit forever and then finally you have to be back on this band with this guy and you know that he's being insufferable as humanly possible. Now that he beat his rap, now that he's walking around as a fucking murderer and lording it all over everybody, like fucking Vlad Vekernist did in his YouTube videos, his smug, let's

take a look, let's listen to this. Let's find out. Let's find out. His fucking bullshit. And so at some point he just wrote, he's like, actually I got the transmission from Satan last night who said it would be most fucking evil if you commit suicide. What? Is that true?

Yeah. Apparently if you do it to your brain or something to kill your brain, you become a demon on the other side. It's totally true. It's totally very real. Yeah. Okay. A double dog dare you to do it.

No, I can't get out. Yeah. Here's the saying is that I've written a couple of articles for some metalzines. I've put out three fair to middling black metal albums over the course of about three years, over the course of about 10 years. That's incredible. Yeah. They're pretty good.

So I think this is a peak. This is as good as it's going to get. So I think now it's time to become a demon. You guys are both peaked, so just take care of it. I tell you what, oh Chrissy Teigen liked my tweet, she is the ultimate in comedy. I guess I have to commit suicide now and become a leather-winged demon. It's so much fun. You've peaked.

Frenchie in the news commented, or they liked one of my DMs that I sent to them, Frenchie in the news. That's very nice. Monsters holding bitches really loves no dogs in space. So that's cool. Awesome. Really good. And you know who loves them?

Slash. There you go. Look at Slash. I'm like one fucking Instagram step from Slash right now, so I think I might have reached my peak. We're all one Instagram away from Slash. Have you been following Slash? Of course.

I've only done his butts. He loves cartoon boobs, butts, and he's Slash, man. He's Slash. He's great. He's Slash, man. Yeah. Well, as far as Vlad goes, he wrote a book for the Temple of the Black Light in 2008 called Lieber-Falxpher, or I think it's Lieber-Falxpher, I don't know, no one knows, man.

But that was about the cult of the left-handed reaper, aka the skeletal lord of the bloody Sith. There is something fun about it, yes, I get that. And you can learn rituals involving said reaper if you want to read that book. And as far as what Vlad's doing today, 12 years later, I got no fucking clue. That was the last that I saw from the Temple of the Black Light. I think they are still going, and I think it's like there are some black metal musicians who still follow Temple of the Black Light.

It's one of those things. It's one of those things. It's like the black metal version of Scientology, I don't know, this is like the big one that you want to join. Well, knock this off of your Ben Kisselbingo. Last podcast is not condone, or we don't condone what they did. No, of course we don't condone what they did. We don't follow this group.

I got to listen to this album so I can see how good it is. What if it turns out that Vlad now works for Spotify, deep inside of it, because I feel like they could hire somebody from deep inside the black metal community. I mean, they're a Swedish company, so it's possible. Speaking of Spotify, we will be exclusive February 14th. I'm sure they're going to love that segue, and we are very excited about this. And I don't know, I mean, you know, nothing's going to change, it's all free, download. You guys have heard the spiel.

I mean, the cool thing about, you know, the Spotify move is like moving to Spotify is why I'm able to do a show like No Dogs in Space. Like it is a absolute A to B. Like it's going to allow us over the next couple of years to do so many fucking cool things with the network, things that we've been wanting to do for forever. So, yeah, it's super fucking cool for us. Absolutely. Let's see here.

Is there anything we have our live shows in April? Check those out. You can find all the dates on our website, LastPodcast.network.com. And Group Workshop Spotify wants us to go to a state. They say they're flying out. It's mandatory for all of us, but apparently there's this fun thing called the spank machine. Did you get the email about bringing four gallons of peanut butter? Oh, is this an acting job?

This is incredible. All right, everyone, thank you all so much for listening to this week's relaxed fit. We will be back next week with more of the content you love. Keep on supporting all the shows here on the LastPodcast.network. Yep, we'll see you all in April. I have some potential Hail Yourself America dates coming up, but I will announce those when those happen. Also Tuesday, the tickets will be live for Patreon for our Austin show.

Yes, finally. 2019, finally. Yes. Finally, 2020. Finally, it will be done. So, Austin, we apologize for the delay. Honestly, it's really not. What's in our doing?

It's above our pay grade. There's a thing called the Comedy Mafia, which is a true thing. So yes, Austin, you will be able to get tickets. So thanks for your patience. Yes, thank you for waiting. All right, everyone. Thank you all so much for listening. Hail yourselves.

Hail Satan. Hail Geen. Let's do a magustillations. Magustillations. Hail me. Also, I did see the breakdown of LastPodcast on the left. They say Ed Geen was a guest, and I was like, what a fantasy. That was real fun.

You were giving him an IMDB page. He would be a horrible podcast guest, because you'd just be like, could be. Just staring. Might be. That's true. So, Ed, did you kill your brother? Might be that happened. Henry, any other questions for Ed?

Oh, Ed, tell me, what kind of tacos do you like? Might be I like Chipotle. Oh, wow. He was. That's the most disgusting thing I know about you, Ed. Rocketball. Rocketball. We love you all so much!

Wish you all a good day mate. Sew a cool new one. Thank you so much! Bye folks. Love ya. Hope you like today's video. Bye-bye. We'll be doing an amazing podcast, a new one today.

Happy magic. We hope you enjoy it. I said, today's video is a witch you weren't wanting to hear. turns out to beimos. Funny line.