Last Podcast On The Left - Relaxed Fit: Lucy Letby

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

The boys are back with one final transmission before leaving the UK, and oh boy, it’s a doozy… Strap on your Gold Star helmets and be warned, this one is not for the faint of heart (Trigger Warning: this episode contains graphic descriptions of violence / murder of infants). This is the still developing story of the UK's "alleged" serial baby-killing nurse, Lucy Letby.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left And maniacs I wonder in that world The nurse kill eight infants maybe that's the entire plot of animaniacs We don't know it much like they say about rug rats where they're all dead Like drowned in the tub. I think something like that and it was seven infants and it's allegedly And I'll go ahead and say that is the last time I'll say that word this episode legally cover for the rest this episode Allegedly blanket allegedly. It's true. And we did cover this a little bit on side stories But now we have we're gonna be covering it on the last podcast on the left

And Marcus has brought his his butt-like energy. Yes, he did to this property now. We're staying current. Yeah, you are Liz trust We're here we're in London town It's actually it is foggy which I do think is it's kind of on the nose a little it's an accurate stereotype Ben Marcus and Henry hanging out. We had a fantastic evening in London We had our beef wellingtons for the first time and if you do have a chance to get a beef welly Take it because it was a delicious. It's a delicious meat pastry. I mean fucking up though They can they can but we don't have one in America. No, I would not have one in America No, no, all right. Well speaking of fucking up today's episode. It is current. It's we're right on we're on the tip

The cusp of modern crime. Yeah, Lucy. Let's be that's right Let's just say not the nurse you want but the nurse some got What is scarier than a nurse? I mean because it's spooky season and what's scary than a nurse that makes Halloween decorations Oh, we'll get into it nurse Lucy let be is on trial right now She is accused of the murder of seven mostly premature babies and the attempted murders of ten others And honestly this case is like nothing. I've ever seen cuz truly you came at this with the Fascination because Kissel was kind of into it. You were fascinated with it. I was looking up pies

I was looking at some I looked at some haunted places But still like because I was looking at the the news tracks go by about Lucy Let be at my first instinct when I saw it was like maybe she just sucked at it Yeah, that's what you were saying. It's like they maybe she's just bad You know, that's what they do when people are bad. They just move around. It's true. No, you do that That they do that but not in this case. No, unfortunately, she was very good at committing mayor dare While most killer nurses are so-called angels of death on power trips maintaining the just-putting sick patients out of their misery Yeah, Lucy let be as we'll get into seems to have actually enjoyed the cruelty of the act to be fair when I am old if I hit 90

I'm going to a hospital called angels of death and I want at this point It'll probably just be legal to put me out of my misery. I'm rooting for you the nature. Thank you It's it's also interesting because she kind of looks like Ali Mack from nexium. Wow, she does a little bit a little bit of that like semi-hot white woman like wide-eyed like Like that vibe But you know, it's more like oh I love the child They but here I feel like aren't most nannies and nurses magical Of course, they have umbrellas. They can fly they can float

There is they play a whistle and their hat gets big and they jump into it and the hat takes them to the next Family where the father died in the war and then she has to like teach them all like how to shave and how they can get into the war Mary Poppins there's a statue of her absolutely right near where we're at Yeah, you just Henry you just like it combined Mary Poppins Willy Wonka in the sound of music. It's all the same. That sounds fantastic There's a great that's the extended universe. We need to create and of course Let's not forget the supporting cast of knots is in the sound of music. Where is their appreciation? I'll also love your impression of a white woman. It's just Michael Jackson But from what we've heard from testimony from the trial that's still ongoing

Lucy let be seems to have relished in finding different ways to kill babies And she didn't do it painlessly either like say like Harold Shipman It's like putting the insulate in let him let them go to sleep instead Lucy let be seems like she was hell-bent on inflicting the maximum amount of pain and misery on what are arguably the most vulnerable Human beings in existence premature baby. Oh my god Honestly, the only way I'd really search for cruel ways to kill babies is if they were all sort of like controlled by nano-machines And I was attacked by a group Yeah, 15 to 20 premature babies that I'd have to beat off from with

Robotic, that's not their fault. No, that's not their fault at that point that you're mixing a multiple multiple genres here Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're mixing horror. You're mixing science fiction. That's too much. I'm reading a lot alone Lucy let be 32 from herford, England. I think I looked it up. I think it's herford See we're learning. No, she denies murdering five boys and two girls and attempting to murder another five boys and five girls between June 2015 and June 2016 But let's go through a bit of the timeline here as far as the investigation goes. Okay in July 2016 The neonatal unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital. That's in Chester very right south of Liverpool, right Southwest of Manchester. So that's where it's your it's you if you're 15 years old. You have to be drunk. Yeah

They stopped accepting premature infants born before 32 weeks partly due to an unexplained high mortality rate in 2015 and 2016 instead the premature infants were diverted to other hospitals in the northwest of England Kind of reminds me of when we were in we all lived in the really intense section of Brooklyn Do you remember what that was that woodhole? Yeah, I've been to woodhole recently. It's still it's worse than it's ever been Much worse and I remember walls are now noticeably stained Oh, yeah, and I remember people saying if you get shot in the waiting room in woodhole Yeah, you should call a taxi to take you to another house So that's got to be crazy thinking about that like they had to like so many babies died

They have to just be like we're gonna bring the hole on this. Yeah pump the brakes a little bit I mean to put it in a perspective the death rate of babies at this hospital was over 10% The average expected death rate for maternity wards in the UK and it's just this one woman. See you too can make a difference And that's what this is all about. Here's the escalation just two babies died at the Countess of Chester Hospital in 2013 in 2014 that number was three babies two three not bad in 2015 eight Babies died then in 2016 five babies died by June So and that's when when five babies were dead by June. They're like cut it off Okay, send them somewhere else. We gotta look into this shit

It seems it seems like she was escalating then. Yeah, well, it's also kind of nice that it wasn't like 25 babies, you know what I mean? She only had so many hours in the day They at least saw that they were like let's stop now Yeah, yeah, and so a series of investigations was initiated to ascertain the reasons for the sharp rise in Mortalities with an independent review being carried out by the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health number one We got a look at the video games. These kids are playing number two What kind of music they listening to you blame a lot. I blame a lot of this on rock and roll

Yeah And despite this report finding some staffing levels quote-unquote Inadequate the Foundation trust were unable to identify the fundamental cause of the high mortality rate with the independent report Similarly finding quote no single cause or factor identified to explain the increase seen in the mortality numbers However, suspicion fell on Lucy let be when she went on vacation with her parents and the number of infants getting sick and dying Significantly dropped. Hmm. I want to find out where she went on vacation and find out of the baby mortality rate rise up If you're down in a beezer or something you find out all these babies are dying at raves first of all again fentanyl But then look for Lucy let me so she was so blatant

It was so obvious that it was she was the only Variable yeah, that was like as soon as it's removed things change Yeah, but perhaps the biggest tell was the fact that when the infant mortality rate was high on the night shift where Lucy let me was They switched her to the day shift and then of course, baby started dying on the day shift Let's see what she can do in the light But I already started getting some emails when we briefly covered this on side stories Talking about this and it is like they do communicate within the hospital. Yeah, everybody knows that there are sometimes on your shift There's somebody that's like not the sharpest syringe in the toolkit right and then and they watch them

They kind of like all notice because they had they know that it's they are the line They are the ones that are really they're all they're on the ground They're watching all the shit happen, especially nurses and just like thinking about that too Like think about that like you have to sit with this woman who's just like I love the child you're looking at her Spacey face like long hair and shit, and they're like Okay, let's try her in the morning Maybe she's just grumpy. Maybe it's a grumpy thing. Yeah, no they talk to each other about it There were text messages that came out around the time that you know five six babies were dying

I think like in 2015 she got a text message from one of the other nurses just like you're not having a great run of it Oh, you like my goodness. Yeah, cuz they didn't they never thought in a million years, but she's fucking killing babies They just thought like oh my god like she's it yet Lucy's having it really rough. She's having a lot of babies die This is crazy. This is kind of like this is a really hardcore This is very sad point of fact, but I was watching a interesting documentary about this to terms called forgotten baby syndrome Which is that people like if you have like a set day where you basically you have a new baby You're half asleep. You are the nurses out of your mind No, this is just normal like a parent and that if there's maybe a change in your schedule that it leads to

Forgotten baby syndrome which what they call it which is you accidentally leave the baby in the car Yeah all day and then the baby especially if it's hot right hooks in there Yeah, it's really fucked up, but it was the story of this one dude that seemed to be again Allegedly he might have done it on purpose because he was trying to get out of his family And I know that story the guys were talking about the paramedics that had to do CPR on the babies and talk about how like that is One of the worst things like they all go into trauma services It's worse than when you like shoot a guy on the fun on the fucking when you're on the job You know worried like you have to go with cuz it's horrible to lose a baby. Yeah. What suck dude, you know and can you're right?

Well, I know for my truck in my Chevy Silverado, it says look in the back seat baby check and I'm like if I see a fucking baby back Well, I mean I can also see why maybe Lucy let me went under the radar for a while And why there were some of the nurses saying like you're having a real rough run of it because Just recently just in the last couple of weeks. There was a report that came out that said that 45 babies who died at East Kent hospitals trust between 2009 and 2020 could have survived if they received better care Little soft catch your packets. No, they can't tell you what's going on No, and if they do then you have to kill the baby because that baby's the antichrist that baby's boss, baby

Yeah, kill landlords. Yeah But as far as Lucy let me went they arrested her and searched her home when they noticed the correlations and they found a note that said quote I don't deserve to live or kill them on purpose because I'm not good enough I'm a horrible evil person then she wrote in all capital letters. I am evil. I did this Alright, well that seems like a confession unless of course She's looking into series of dead chickens that she just put into some kind of chicken pie and felt guilty about it But this was immediately this was just put in the trial. They were talking about this And now her lawyers are doing the back paddling of like she just you know

Yeah, and we'll get to that once we get to the defense at the very end because it's fascinating what the defense is trying to come up Here, but such was the authority suspicion that she may have been killing a lot of babies quite often They dug up her garden to see if they could find signs of infant remains They thought maybe she was just grabbing babies killing them and burying them like she was some sort of infant rose west She had the time to garden. They're gonna kill all those kids. You got a time to fucking make a Dang daisy out there. Yeah, if you got time to lean you got in time to bury a bunch of corpses in your garden Oh my goodness. I'm starting to think anyone who gardens They have potential to kill potential. I'm actually looking really forward

I'm very much looking forward to having a garden when we know you have the potential to kill But not the desire exactly the potential but not the desire. It's very important distinction It's a very low level of being a dictator of one plot of land Tomatoes and decided they live or die. I'll mow you right now And as the trial is currently happening as we're recording this we've got some grisly details on just how Lucy let be Committed these murders and I'm gonna go ahead and say these are some of the worst details of a serial killer that I've ever fucking heard But the details on who Lucy let be actually is are still somewhat scant We don't know a lot about her because again she from what I've seen she was just a regular old woman

She's just a no track of aberrant behavior Not that we have seen I was looking it up today and it just seemed that she just was like she always loved babies that I know she's been talked about this for a long time But wanting to be a nurse and then I do wonder if there is a little bit that came out in those notes She wrote to herself which is kind of true is that maybe there's a little bit of the the middle way that we talk about all the time Or is that she does suck at it and then in her anger at herself for sucking at it She also then does horrible things who knows I mean I'm thinking perhaps she couldn't get pregnant It has some sort of anger towards children for existing that is one of the things all speculation

I mean who knows that's in the note that is in one of her notes It says being like I'll never have a family. No one will love me. I'll never have my own kids So I have to take kids from other people, but this is not gonna help No, no, that is not how you go about adoption. Yeah, yeah You don't know like because yeah, that's the thing you got to wonder at this point Like did she get into nursing so she could kill babies or did it just come upon her as she was in her nursing career? Like yeah, it might just be one of those things that's attached to it like when you get to travel for work Isn't that nice?

You're right. So it's like hotel points Well according to the highly unreliable daily mail Jordan sands the behind the high unreliable highly unreliable You know what? I'll remember this for the longest time daily mail was the number one source of stories for roundtable of gentlemen That's why it's really unreliable. It's reliable for content Well, Jordan sands the boyfriend of one of Lucy's friends described Lucy as a kind-hearted But awkward person and that's the worst that anyone could say about her. Yeah another person whose name Must remain anonymous

Term the nurse as quote-unquote an amazing person One of her neighbors told the daily mail quote I knew her when she was a little girl and she was as sweet as anything I've seen her grow up on off. She seemed a lovely woman So this news is deeply and utterly shocking. I can't fathom it. Wow Oh, there's a little bit more when you hear these sorts of things You always get one or two people saying I thought there was something fishy about them But with Lucy all you hear is positive things. Well, I'm hearing some negative things

At this point I must say in her career Yeah, or in her life It was never like, you know, it's like, you know, fred and rose west to bring him up again Just because we just covered him It wasn't like ever like everyone who's like, yeah, don't go over to their house. They're fucking awful They're horrible people like with Lucy. Let me nothing. Absolutely nothing But I feel like this is kind of where it happens. It's just all in her own head Yeah, I feel if it is indeed found to be true

I think that there is going to be she will obviously be the subject to a lot of psychological analysis They're gonna look at her then get and she will never admit to it No, well, who knows maybe when she's incarcerated or something But I will say there's a beautiful actress in Hollywood right now that's going to win an Oscar for looking just slightly ugly When she plays Lucy let me And Lucy let me tell her we are fucking American We need to take this You want to switch it around?

Take the narrative back Okay I mean Lucy let me was so credible that she was even the face of a 2.6 million dollar appeal for the hospital to build a brand new Pediatric unit back in 2013 Two years before the murders started. It was always stressing about how quick the turnaround was Yeah, that's actually just an indictment on British faces Because they were looking for a model and they're like Lucy you're it. Yeah, she's just got that like

I guess it's what she's very bland. Well, she's kind of bland in a way Well, she's got one of those like three British faces Yeah, you know, there's like there's the round the oval and the narrow and she's got the narrow We can say this because we're white and we're of British descent I mean, I'm 86 86 percent British right here. You can say I can say it I feel I felt it a little bit when we were in Ireland like I did kind of see my people a lot There was a lot of like that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I see you in Ireland very much So now every time we go to Ireland, I always look at you and just think god. There's a lot of him

Yeah, there's like it's like multiplicity. Yeah, it's a lot of like the the tinier dog and loony tunes like running around It's like trying to fight each other really that does it does feel like that Yeah, totally But concerning the trial in one testimony a mother of twins said she walked in on Lucy Letby Attempting to murder one of her baby boys Lucy Letby then told the mother quote trust me. I'm a nurse. Uh-oh Lucy Letby was trying to kill the five-day old boy when his mother arrived on the neonatal ward with his milk jurors were told

Allegedly Almighty a word for the infant the mother said was quote-unquote acutely distressed and as I said before this is going to get fucking awful Bleeding from the mouth The woman did not realize Letby was allegedly in the process of attacking her son and was quote-unquote fobbed off By the alleged killer wait hold on. What does that mean? It's it's another way of saying I do love all the you know You can go gobb yourself Oh gripper Richard they have all sort of they saw different sayings here that I really do like but

It is that I feel like this is kind of the crux of her crimes. Is that statement trust me? I'm a nurse. Oh, that's so scary because it's that thing of like that's why she got to this lofty position Some people it's why we find that predators and bullies were like winnowed their way into being cops and politicians In america doctors and shit like that because it's a power position that no one can counter you want in america this day Trust me. I have a youtube channel I could never There was like some crime going on we were joking about that with all these police standing around we want to walk Hey, listen, we run a true crime pod

Let me take a crack at it Take a crack at you want to you want to see my gun Well the infant who weighed just under three pounds at birth rapidly deteriorated and was pronounced dead less than five hours After let me was seen attacking him the jury was told Okay, a doctor president said he quote had never seen a baby bleed like this And that the child lost more than a quarter of his total blood volume Baby ease death and that's how they put it. They baby a baby b baby Yeah, they don't it goes up to baby m. I mean no joke. They may not have had names yet. Yeah, that's what we made it to a 90s

Oh, you made it to m. That's right. And that's the real horror story Yeah mid-season cancellations That's uh, what? Oh, but you still pay me till we get to z, right? Okay Well, baby ease death was initially put down to a gastrointestinal disorder that can occur in premature babies No post-mortem was undertaken. This an authority said was quote a big mistake. Yeah, a big wally rude That's another term Well experts later concluded that baby e died as a result of gas intentionally injected into his bloodstream and quote bleeding indicative of trauma now gas

Is kind of just the nature of the element. We I think that they mean I think that that's like how they put it scientifically But it's air. Yeah, literally. It's what we covered a little bit But again, these details are now coming out because all of the medical examiners are literally currently talking about it on British court television. Mm-hmm. They are having a field day with it. This is Casey anthony times Seven times seven times seven plus alleged Well after killing the child, this is where it gets truly into serial killer territory Let me then took an unusual interest in the twins family

Searching for them on social media two days after baby ease death and several times over the following months Even on Christmas day. Oh my god. That is so effing crazy and scary It does the hand that rocks the cradle a little bit. She's like Rebecca de morne Yeah, I really think that that maybe that again, it's it's it is either entitlement again, allegedly Uh entitlement or if it's it's I can't have kids They got I'm gonna take them. Maybe maybe she was you know hanging out with her family She's got a sister or a brother with kids and so she goes and she looks well, you know how it is with old

Jacob, you know, they're all like, you know, putting pajamas on the kids stuff and you're just sitting there just like Getting more and more angry at what is supposed to be the most like idyllic peaceful scene and human nature. Yeah Well, I blame christmas. I blame christmas. Sure. Well, the nurse allegedly quote-unquote wiped out the mother's visit from the medical records Then falsely claimed to be in another room when baby e collapsed This the prosecution alleged was let me trying to maintain an alibi in someone else's medical records Yeah, that makes sense. Well, this is now where before I didn't know all the details Where you start to see the track like the cover up But then again, you know, if you're a lawyer you say that's just because you sucked and how many times I've had to go and try to go

Like, you know, how many times I'd like, you know, you know, how many guys I've sent to the chair by accident seriously I'll send you there right now, but she did actively go Brush it up cover it up. So she knew what she was up to. Yeah, she knew that they were coming for Jurors were told that let be this story is not over with these fucking with this family Jurors were told that let be then took a sinister interest in baby e's twin brother Six-day-old baby f the nurse allegedly administered a feeding bag laced with insulin to baby f less than 24 hours after she'd allegedly killed the other baby But baby f survive

How was she not immediately busted if she had to I guess it's like again It comes down to just like a human error and or they like I guess you say like oh, she's traumatized The other baby died now her head is not in the right place And then they must have taken her off of that family, right? There's something also to the idea that like, you don't want to believe this nurse is killing Remature babies like who would ever do that? Yeah, that's what the guy I was talking about with the forgotten baby syndrome I think there's the russ hauser. I'm gonna look up his proper name, but it's it's the same thing I think the reason why he did it on purpose because then again when people come questioning

How could any father kill his two-year-old baby this way? And that's why you can be like You think that because you have now dissociated from any sort of morality at all That you are because you you're so selfish and so wrapped up and you're on bullshit that you just think like well This is the ultimate unquestionable crime. Well, that was the guy texting with that chick. You wanted a bang too, right? That was that sort of who's texting with that trick. He was having the affair with yes Yes, yes, yes, yes, but they were all he was having sex with children. He was having sex with 16-year-olds Okay

Well another of lucy leppy's alleged victims a three-month-old child was left with irreversible brain damage after leppy tried Three times to kill her by injecting milk and air into her nasogastric too Geez the jury was then shown a diagram that explained how inflating an infant's stomach with excess milk or air Could cause them to stop breathing apparently if you're trying to murder a child in a neonatal unit This is a fairly effective way of doing it because it doesn't leave much of a trace So it's like how john morrisan died on his own puke. Yeah, that basically Reform it up. Yeah, john morrisan was his father who died thinking about his son whipping his dick out of console John morrisan's actually a pro wrestler who took jim morrisan's character, but john morris. Yes, jim morrisan

Jim morrisan allegedly died of a heart attack jimmy hindricks choked on his own vomit. I can't keep up with these rock stars in the rock star lifestyle No, jim morrisan died in a bathtub. Oh, no shit. Yeah, supposedly his heart just gave out, but some say he just faked his own death I don't know about that Jane morris. Yeah, I went to I went to his grave a few days ago. I feel like he's in there. You think he was in there You're not gonna do it. I'm not gonna put your ear up listen to some tunes. It smells like bacon fat and white That'd be great. Now jurors were told last week that let be quote was the only constant presence When three babies died and one suffered a life-threatening collapse In two weeks. Wow neonatal unit in june 2015. Damn

Lucy let be also allegedly killed two out of three triplet boys And smiled after killing another premature baby girl on the fourth attempt Man, she is fucking freaking it's again or she's just a shattered person that because like they do have There are stress responses where you can smile and laugh and shit like, you know How people respond to technically what are a bunch of negligent acts that led to horrible tragedies So now she's kind of on a roll Doing if it's true, right the other side if she's just fucking up again and again and again But the idea of that because there also seems to be something connected to triplets and twins

Yeah, well, I think it's also because triplets and twins are often born premature. Yeah, yeah Born premature born smaller, you know, and they need a lot more Care and really wipe out an entire family. Oh, yeah An authority said quote baby. I was born very early and very small But she survived the first two months of her life and was doing well by the time Lucy let be got her hands on her Let be is accused of repeatedly pumping baby I with massive amounts of gas over a period of two months when she had to be resuscitated by let be's colleagues On one occasion the University of Chester graduate was seen standing in the doorway of the girls darkened room quote

Cooley watching a baby who was in crisis Doing nothing. God she is Fucking scary down Again, this is presenting the case because it's just so weird It's just that that again. These are all the little character pieces to start to fill out like who this person actually is Like the idea of watching but I guess also you do if you're in that job You're also like I think people criticize. I see a lot of my true crime videos people criticize 9-1-1 Like call responders like about how like cold they sound. Yeah

But again, the whole point is that they have to be a pinion of quote-unquote sanity They're supposed to be clinical get you the information route the people that need to be there and also field for when people call That are non-emergencies. No the type of shit 9-1-1 operators are basically machines Yes, like that's what they have to be they have to turn off their humanity and just be a fucking automation machine Because they are doing an incredibly important service, which is like you got to get the information through the pipes, correct? Absolutely, because if you're like someone's been shot, they're like someone's been shot Oh my god, no never mind. Now you're now you're consoling them and then the whole thing falls apart new guys in the corner puking his guts out

Oh, because you wanted some new brickpeck Let me was also questioned by police about why she had sent a sympathy card to the baby's parents Oh god, that's so creepy. She said this was the only time she had done it But it is not often the nurses who got to know a family as well as Lucy had known child eyes parents That's what she did. She got much closer. Usually there's like again like the 9-1-1 operators There's a bit of a distance, you know, you can't get involved with these people's lives, but the Families the baby she killed she brought them closer because she wanted to see the trauma So was he chosen by proxy? Yes, because then now I get to be a part of your tragic and I get to console you, right?

Yeah, hmm. Oh my goodness. Lucy think it was the killing of the babies that cut her off or watching the suffering of the parents That cut her off I think both oh absolutely both because listen to this She admitted to officers that she had kept an image of the card that she sent to the dead baby's parents on her phone Which is a case of a serial killer trophy if I've ever fucking heard Because that's the thing, you know, that's what serial killer trophies are for, you know, so they can go back That's why they keep the driver's licenses So so they can go back and relive it. She's got a picture of that sympathy card on her phone

So she can look at that whenever she wants to remembers the time she killed that baby And she remembers the trauma that the parents went through she remembers all of it. It's a trophy It's a fucking digital. It's an NFT and and this serial killer trophy And that's what we're here to talk about everyone gets a trophy in this generation We need more competition with our children. It's so strange because I've never heard this is highly unique I've never heard that she's guilty is a very unique in crime because I've never heard this style Because again, like it's just that those little hooks. Yeah, you like it's a serial killer. That's it's so scary That was the one that was the detail that kind of blew my mind of the whole case

So just like this I've never seen anything like this. This is correct Like I don't know if nobody has ever existed like this or if there's not or there's never got caught Or if there might be something something to do with like technology and bring facebook into it And like this is a new way Operating like it's just the evolution of the serial killer back in day. I remember remember the movie one hour photo But you guys like, you know Robin Williams character becomes obsessed with people like through these private moments That he gets to experience on the side But now we literally have social media that you can kind of almost like in your fantasy land like I'm I'm in

I'm with their family too and oh what a tragedy and now we're you get to be a part of somebody else's narrative Somebody's thinking of you now. Yeah. Parasocial on steroids. Yeah, I think so But that's the thing following child eyes death on october 23rd Let me ask her parents if they wanted to bathe their baby daughter Oh The court was told that as the baby's mother bathed her recently departed child Lucy let be came into the room and in the words of the mother was quote Smiling and kept going on about how she was present at child eyes first bath

And how much child eye had loved it that is just oh my god Also, dude. Is that normal to uh bathe the dead baby. Yeah, that's that's to do Especially with premature babies to do like some sort of like motherly thing or like a parental type ritual thing for healing Yeah, for a healing thing like you know, I you get to be like a little closer And sure you get to have like a little bit of closure to it. You feel a little bit more connected. Yeah, it's pretty it's very common Yeah, I'm not judging anybody. No going through grief, but it's it's a little macabre. It's it's just a lot It's a lot. I know that you know, I had a co-worker once that was um, I remember I was working at this office job It was temp to perm. I was temp. I shouldn't have you get the perm

No, and I no no I did get the perm and it was that's where I work with Holden McNeely But I was sitting at a cubicle and they told me that the woman who sat there before she had just quit And then they had found like she had all these pictures of her baby They all dressed up like these like little like glamour shots of her baby and they're like, oh your baby Oh, that's so sweet. How like how old is she? You know, then they're like, well actually, um, she was born dead And then we do this we did a photo shoot with her body and then all of the pictures at the office, man It's just a hard conversation. I I know it's like very personal and it means a lot. I get it. I get it I'm not I'm not yucking your yam. Is that the term? Yeah, it just

At the office, it's a hard icebreaker. It's a lot. Yeah Again, I guess we've been doing that since we had photography. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, especially uh dead babies Like people used to photograph dead babies all the time, especially the advent of photography. Yeah Well, that's the thing Oh Well, we're talking that was child. I but by the time child l was attacked in april 2016 Almost a year later. Well, no not almost a year later about six months later Doctors at the hospital had grown a bit suspicious. Yeah of lucy. Yeah

Something's going on, huh? By this time let me was supposed to only be working day shifts because the consultants were concerned about the correlation Between her presence and unexpected deaths slash life threatening episodes on the night shift So they just gave her a better schedule Well, I mean, that's the thing during the day shift. There are more people there. There's there's more oversight Yeah, there's more oversight You're still kind of hoping because again where we just said like it's it's a crime that no one thinks that anybody would commit How could anyone yeah, it's so else beyond the pale that like they just thought like on

You know, maybe she's really bad and that but we just got to look at her and you know, it's like but then how do you eventually take it away? How do you go in and and say like hey? Hey Let's move you to reception and there is something about the mask that she wore which is again of a very vanilla woman If she looked like the doctor from reanimator, maybe people would be a little bit more suspicious. Yeah, doctor crossbows Just like shows up with two bleeding red eyes I'm in oncology You know, he might be great

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Well one consultant walked in on let be trying to kill Child k After the consultant had grown concerned about the baby being left alone with her That's how much that suspicion came to be like let's move her to the day shift And then as they looked into her more and more it's like I don't even want to leave her alone Yeah with the child the consultant began to feel uncomfortable when he realized let be was alone with the child Because the consultant that was beginning to notice the coincidence between the unexplained deaths slash serious collapses and the presence of Lucy let be when he walked into the room. He noted that the infant's breathing tube was dislodged

Apparently she was trying to kill child k when the pediatric consultant walked in on her because that's what she was always counting on Is that I'm in here by myself someone walks by the window. They say I'm in here. Oh, Lucy's got it They're not gonna come in but then this person comes in let be allegedly use the hemophilia of another child known as child in as a cover under which to attack him The disease which causes bleeding for no reason was attributed to many of the episodes involving the infant boy In one instance the infant's throat was so swollen and covered with fresh blood Damn that a consultant was unable to get a breathing tube down This is what one of the medical experts wrote and this is I think

One of the most harrowing notes. I have ever read by any medical professional This is life threatening He was also noted to be screaming and apparently cried for 30 minutes This is most unusual I have never observed a premature neonate To scream This oh my goodness well all of these well the The residual effects here is now this hospital is very haunted. Yeah, that's what I will say

This was very like, uh, but that baby lived Uh, no that baby died That baby that's a neonate screamed for 30 minutes and then died. Oh Yeah, no, it's terrible little life. Well, that's why Lucy levy is so insane to me That was the second thing that really got me is that it's not just, you know, pop It's not a hot shot. Yeah, they're not just going to sleep. Like it is intentional harm. Like it is making it It is making it cruel. It's making it hurt. Like that's the biggest thing. She's making it hurt Which that's why you look and do you just

You can't ever tell Sometimes you just look into her spacey eyes and you just don't know what just like what you just don't know She's a fucking monster. Now as far as the defense is allegedly Very good. Allegedly monster. Nice Now as far as the defense has been going in lucy levy's trial Things to put it lightly are not going well. No No, what do you mean? Basically it sounds like just skidding wheels Like you're really trying to figure out like how to get her out of there because they're like, don't we all hate babies?

Everyone deserves the defense. Yeah, she's doing their job. Yeah, she's blood not guilty Uh, but the defense has claimed that there is no evidence She is behind the deaths of seven babies jurors at Manchester crown court were told blame had been heaped on the nurse and To consider that coincidence may be at play. Whoo. Consider it. Let's just consider it. I mean, I I it's just who? It's tough Well, her defense lawyers showed the jury a prosecution exhibit Agree with the names of staff on duty across the top and across one side the names of the children allegedly attacked An ex marked let be being on duty at the time when a child was said to have been harmed or killed

Eight times on day shifts 16 times on night shift Okay, her defense said that this was a self-serving document He claimed that it does not show the treatment each child was receiving the health of the baby in question Collapses by babies when let be was not present Shortcomings in care of others how busy the unit was and what let be was doing at the time of each event And what kind of music are these kids listening to? Okay, rap rock Which is no longer new

It's new to me. Well, that's the thing. It's new forever because it's in you and I know what they've done. Yes Her defense also cited the post-it notes the one, you know, I am an evil person. I did this Let me had allegedly written of course. I am evil. I did this as well as I don't deserve to live I killed them on purpose because I'm not good enough to take care of them on bits of paper And her defense argued quote This is the anguished outpouring of a young woman in fear Underspare when she realizes the enormity of what's being said about her. It's cancel culture To herself that she wrote publicly to be read

He said that he did write it. She'd like that's their main thing is that she's swimming with like her whole life Falling apart and she wrote all these sort of like modeling emo notes about how like I'm a monster I am evil. I must have did this. Of course. I did this which is like it just don't help No, it doesn't no I done because that said that you would think if she didn't do it She went to verton that she did well the whole argument is that she was saying I did this is and I'm not good at my job I'm not good at my job because at that time those can both be correct I had to we feel like there is sort of like I think that there's a fucked up mix She may have done the first one on accident and it was like, oh

I could who knows I mean who knows I the first couple and then all of a sudden you're just You've already kind of like so I just hopped in to been a nurse of death That's how it is. You've already done it. You've already crossed the fucking rubicon. Yeah It's like it's like when you're it's like when you're a radio programmer and the host is gone They're like you've got to fill in so yeah, and now I've done radio for 30 years. Yeah, that's how it all starts Yeah, well, that's what the lawyer says is that they're her defense the or the barrister? That's what he says. Very good. So they're called here. Yeah, they're called barristers barristers. Yeah I'm probably wrong about that. Maybe it's barrister when they're doing it in like a paperwork

Capacity in a lawyer or an attorney defense. They have wigs on right. Uh, yeah, they got wigs. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, they all got wigs I was silly, but now it's kind of fun. I love this case was delayed because all the uh, all the lawyers went on strike Uh, well, that wasn't all the lawyers. That was the public defense lawyers. Oh, yeah Yeah, it would be like a fall of art. Yeah, if all they should because they deserve more money They really they deserve a lot more fucking money But you know concerning lucy let me say I did this I killed this the defense is arguing She had gotten fired at that point. She had no job. So she was stressed She didn't have a job. She's I bet you she is real stressed

I mean, there are still coming out. There is medical reports that need to come out Right because there is that is still a part of now of like we need to look at the hard reports that say This is how these babies died a fair amount of them have Yeah, they're they're they're rolling out. It's all rolling out now. It's just that thing where you're like Damn, dude, like can you just be can you be so bad at your job that you become evil? I think we'll have a relaxed fit update then. Yeah, no, I mean, this isn't there's no way any of this is an accident But every every single every single one of them are so blatant and it's beyond it's beyond accident You can't accidentally fucking squirt milk into a premature baby. Oh, I just slipped and I fell

Things don't look good for lucy let me but soon enough I think it's pretty safe to say There's no way in hell lucy's getting out of this one Oh, and she just may go down is one of the cruelest serial killers in england's history Which is a hard club to get into. Yeah, no kidding. And we always were discussing. Can you be a serial killer these days? We had the scottens shoot a shooter That's like everyone I always find these like that stupid hot take Style of article of like the age of the serial killer is over and she's been like unfortunately, ma'am that truck keeps on rolling Yes, it does also 2015 and 2016 weird years, weren't they? Yeah. Yeah, they really weren't especially here in the world

Here for all of us and again I feel like there's also a little bit out of the chaos does sort of cover things up that was happening at the time People are trying to figure out the whole society's fucking shifting out from underneath them Trying to figure out what to do how to make sense of everything and then all of a sudden somebody's just killing babies Real random making sense in a senseless world. That's right. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for this Really is a fucked up. It is a fucked up heroine and in recent which makes it so much more personal This is a fucked up case. Yeah, this is absolutely. It is. What was the name of the guy that you wanted to mention? Is uh, his name is cooper harris and there was there's an interesting special on him

Okay, the worst part about it again. It's like it's about performative of the aspects of shit where she Uh lucy let be the way she kind of acted was nonchalant. Yeah Kind of being like i'm a nurse. This is my job. I'm in control. I I love my job I I do it well and I think that that was her cover where this dude what he did was first of all A lot of things are really pointed towards it was that up to the days Leading up to when his son was basically he died legally. I have to say died, right? Was it cooper harris was uh constantly googling What happens when you leave something in it when you leave a baby in a hot? Oh, you know, well, what are you freaking thing? It is the casey anthony out of suffocated child xanax

Literally what he did And then he looked up this video that he kept showing his wife that he was like look at this like it shows like This is my worst nightmare Man, this is my worst nightmare leaving a baby in a car, right? This is three days before the fucking baby dies in the car And then what you then find out is that he he does this whole like act out where he's like Oh, and he's like screaming in the yeah, I saw the cop asked for his ID And in the body cam footage you see him literally go like what are you my d4? And you're like that's a quick switch. Yeah

Yeah, and then they told him that he was being filmed in the interrogation room And as he's sitting in the interrogation room by himself, he's literally going why? Why? How could I have done this he did not get a bfa like henry did no and then the cop comes in He didn't get asked to play a blues brother universal studio He didn't make the cut he did not he was I didn't make the bfa program. Oh, they said I was too fat to train I booked every show I auditioned for okay. It's called fucking life. All right. You fucking stick by your own yourself I was looking out for you. You're looking for your fucking self. All right great

But in the interrogation room the cop goes to talk with him Like okay, so he's crying and making it all big to do about it Uh, and but the thing is that he made all these like quick phone calls like when you and they kept asking me like What did you do with the phone calls? He was like, I was trying to tell the daycare That to that things were bad And then you tell them to keep my wife make sure my wife doesn't know and it was like, you know, obviously horseshit But it turns out they ask him you only how's your relationship going? He's like great We're doing great and then cut to turns out. She was in the process of looking for a new home

Uh, she was going to buy a new spot and she could leave him because she found him Sending sexual text messages to children for a long period of time and then by children How like because children when you say children, I think like teen 16 Okay, because when you say children, I think like 12 and under. Yeah, I so you got it. You got to specify Teenagers 15 16 underage to say Teenage when I see I see a child. I see a child. Yeah, but when you just say children, it's confusing. I well That's his hard line I know I'm I'm trying to I'm sound like a guy's like actually it's called ebophilia

It's the whole thing where now you're looking at but they But they did all that in the trial, right? So he got life in prison without parole They said they even got guilty because in the very end of it They're like, so we're booking you right now and he goes white as a sheet. You could see it in a police interrogation He's just like why would I why would that need to happen? It's like this is a horrible life. There's like This is a horrible exit. Why would you guys don't understand? I have a plan here One of the parts of it is that I won't get arrested. So

Let's just redo. Do you want to take the scene again? But he had to know and then because also he didn't want to give him the phone Because I'm going to find out that he is literally cheated on his wife over 35 times with men women and teenagers marcus Thank you. And they and he was on child. It's about journalistic integrity. Sure. And you know, that's what we're all about But he was also a poster on the child's free Subreddit on which is this people Yeah, I know how that one. Yeah, because you know now they they also have a term that they use called child free in spirit Which means you have a child

But you don't want it fantastic. Well, you know what a little piece of to wrap it up a little bit No, it's it goes from there then because they put all that shit in there, which seems like evidence, right? That he killed the baby on purpose. Yeah, they didn't the Florida They florida springport threw it out because they're like all this is unfair That he had all of these that he's a has a history of like lies and all this kind of shit And it's like that doesn't mean he killed the baby But even though like he had done all this research about how long it would take to fucking kill a baby

And he definitely went into his car several times where he would have smelled the baby inside of the car And then he and he didn't well, I had a cold Anyone had coven well to wrap it up That's been that's the biggest tragedy of coven not being able to spell all the decaying bodies in your own home Romantic way, perhaps he and lucy should have met perhaps Whoa, what if they hook up now? Like rose west and uh, myra hensley. Yeah, all right everyone. Well, thank you so much for listening We appreciate everyone who's come out to the shows. We had a massive honor of doing the palladium here in london

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