Last Podcast On The Left - Relaxed Fit: Teal Swan - A Spiritual Science Situation w/ Natalie Jean and Amber Nelson (Some Place Under Neith)

Episode Date: April 30, 2022

This week as our beloved captain of the ship Marcus continues to slice through the spiky tendrils of COVID-19, Ben 'n' Henry are joined for a very special crossover event by the fabulous ladies of LPN's own Some Place Under Neith - Natalie Jean & Amber Nelson to discuss the internet cult phenomenon Teal Swan, the motives of her organization, and their controversial stance on Suicide. 

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left That's when the cannibalism started All I want to do in my life is a citizen. I know but someone you have to see a crime that Henry and I see a crime Oh, yeah. Yeah, what your head's too big physically big My friend Neil used to make fun of my head so much, but now I think my body is growing into it Welcome to the last podcast on the left everyone. It's been hanging out with Henry Marcus is not with us. No, no I know he's alive. No, he's not with us. Yeah, I know if he was if he was dead, they would be a bigger announcement Yeah, we monetize it. It'd be merch. We would tweet that. Yeah, yeah, well, there would be a tweet for that

I didn't have that on my 222. I'm already upset cults. They're growing and where are they growing everywhere in your pants and Online. Yeah, and that's what we're gonna talk about today We're gonna talk about how the internet has weaponized groups in a way that is interesting I would say interesting Unpredictable you never know what's gonna come out of these groups, but also But but at the same time a lot of it's not very good But it can also be neutral because in something isn't it nice to have your uncle Frank given him something to do Well, stay away from the kids there

So because this is such a large subject We've decided to join forces with the ladies behind the fantastic podcast Spun Some place underneath Amber Nelson and Natalie Jean have joined us. Thank you guys so much for being here Thanks for having us. Oh, we're so excited to be here at the table with you. Don't you deny. You're my wife Your wife first podcaster second I'll start I'll start every sentence with Henry is my husband and I'm thankful to be here Well, you have to walk five feet behind him. No, no, no, no, she walks in front because she's stronger

Too much food yesterday. So this will help me vomit Great, would you eat would you eat chicken wings? Oh Thai food? I went a little Thai crazy. Oh, I know that failing man Night horse man. He comes at least and sometimes you got to make it look like you're with the family You know, you wake up and you say I'm not gonna do that today But then around midnight you do it. Yeah, isn't that something we're speaking of doing it? It seems like people are lost Maybe some people really reeds. Maybe some people go to Thai food But other people go to teal swan. Yeah, her real name is Mary teal Bosworth but teal Bosworth sounds like a place where you go get gaped and

And maybe you have your nipples played with British cigars. Oh, that's nice teal swan much more Pleasant and welcoming. It sounds like it's a name that she she got from walking out of pond and seeing a swan Yeah, float it's actually at one of her ex-husband's last names. Oh, yes girl steal from that man Yeah, she might have married him just because she was like this last name will work perfectly for me He was divorced quick cuz it's good for letters, which I don't think is really important But you guys just covered teal swan in a series for spun And so that's why while the information is fresh inside of your eggs I figured that you guys could throw them out on the table and

Describe to us kind of the beginnings of teal swan and then we can jump in because I ended up watching a bunch of her seminars Mm-hmm, you know, I was more just very impressed with her crowd work her. Yeah. Well, she Hottie certified it's black hair and blue eyes, which just makes my like uterus just wall wall wall wall When I look at this, you know, I'm a lesbian when I look at teal swan We've had to keep pulling her out through this one of the things that she doesn't do is blink And I wonder did she just have naturally wet eyes and that might be a that is a necessity For a strong cult leader But what do you guys think about her presentation on YouTube because it does suck you in and YouTube provides an environment

That is hyper unique very specific and very personalized and the fact she makes eye contact I mean sometimes when I'm real down Oh, yeah, and I don't have uberates and I don't get my Thai food No, I gotta look at my YouTube motivational inspirational videos mostly coaches talking about how their team was able to win But teal swan delivers a similar message. Well, Amber, I know that you mentioned because teal is a perfect internet Guru she came in right at the right time for the internet Um, she actually has openly said that she uses key words and in like search words Like the algorithm to her benefit. So if you type in

My mother just died. Yeah, what do I do? We get the suicide prevention hotline and then teal swan you chop up the body Oh, yeah, find out where to put the Off the breast so they think it's a serial killer and not her wonderful son a wiki how that's a wiki Yeah, I think the point taken that we should all take is more hashtags to create more camaraderie You took a social media lesson She's savvy she's not it's not the hashtags. It's the insidious Putting it into the right coding of when she has her videos come out

So you don't know you're being drawn to it Oh, yeah, she gets a lot of followers going the universe just brought me her video when I was really depressed But it's actually because of what you're searching, right? Now she shows up miss Bosworth. She started her life now Tell me if this is true This is not that she was a part of a systematic torture world done by a boutique cult leader That found her as a little girl and then did stuff like so we're up inside of a corpse The baby in front of her now all this is corpse. Yeah, this is legit, right? He turned her into because that's on half Star Wars what they did with that was it a good friend

I know what's the name of the beast? You don't know the name of the beast Oh not the Snarlax. Let's call it the Lorelax The high thing is the hand thought or whatever it is with bantha when he crawls up inside the thing when Luke Skywalker hides She got her sort of whole mantra off this other woman who looks like a blow-up doll in a suitcase that arise from you from China You know like her eyes are sunken in I believe you believe Barbara snow Barbara snow Yeah, yeah, what is the like past regression therapy where she's just basically like so your father did molest you Didn't he and you're just like no he didn't it's like yes

He did if you want to eat some food and get up and leave this place your father molested you May know the name Barbara snow because she was prolific in the satanic panic And so Barbara snow was teal swan's childhoods there Teenaged there. I'm sorry early 20s. Let's just go let's just go back We have got quite a bit to unpack here. So what everything you just said Henry is bullshit. I teed it up. No I teed it up. But is that what teal swan says her origin story is that she was abused It was a systematic event. She was sewed up inside of a corpse Yes, they showed a movie inside of the person's body. No, I'd made it very difficult. Okay. Yes

I don't like to play this Russian real-life Russian dolls So she has an empathetic backstory and I guess this is where she is able to connect with people when they're going through trauma Right. Yeah, cuz she's like I've been through trauma. I was systematically sold and I was sewed inside of a person's asshole Yes, so then they can say no you understand what it's like when my dog died. Yeah, is that the yeah the point of her story It is she that is her qualifications and it's really fucked up when you hear someone for followers because like for example One guy who's interviewed was a Rwandan genocide survivor. And so he's there with her saying he seems to have real trauma. Yeah, I mean trauma's relative But then he's going to her going oh she understands what I've gone through so I'm gonna give her a bunch of my money

Oh, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that she might not have been sewn into a body because it's physically impossible So I would like to see a message very very very very big Can we do a myth buster? Oh, yeah Busters is running out of ideas. They just did one on do girls fart and they strapped a fucking camera Something to the I swear to God They just did it and then so the woman on the show just had to like all days like trying not to fart and then she did wow and then They myth busted the idea that women don't fart I fart all the time when I'm by myself

Classy yeah, yeah, and Natalie farts in a bag and we keep it next to the bed I'm sorry, this is more retconning. I'm sorry. I was talking to Barbara Snow Or the harvest at night, but that do that point. I bet you teal swan. That's probably next on her merch page selling farts It's like the gamer girl bathwater, but escalated. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I know some girls do sell farts on mine Oh, yeah, I know. Absolutely. We're here for it. Yeah, come on. Get on this I know the more I look into this stuff like that like what teal swan does the more I'm like, what am I doing wrong on the internet? You have a

And you can't just take money from people who already have very little of it. You're not a business woman That's why this is so deceptive and dangerous Natalie I want to ask them so they how did she transition into becoming this leader now I know that she found the internet like she hopped on the wave early But that's like one thing that I wasn't very clear on like when how did she end up setting up her? I would go as far as to say a ministry I'd like an internet ministry internet self-helping like how did she end up like starting that? Yeah, she has a philosophy

I would really kind of equate to like a combination of the secret and like dianetics. So it is sort of in that in that Self-help realm, but it's also Not getting his proper due for what he brought to the modern world So you're saying that a lot L around Hubbard should be happy that he helped create multiple call leaders that are taking money Beautiful LRH would be very proud Well, she she was a she's always been a very unique person you can tell she's Unusual and she's very charismatic. She has the gift of gab. She can talk and talk and talk and she never stutters

She's got all the elements that are in place there. So she's already kind of drawing people in to her Well, she's a straight vlogger like it was that how she was a model but she was she was a she was the kind of model I was which was like I had a model mayhem account. So did she yeah, yeah, yeah You got paid to model But yeah, no shame I went to Balthazar Whatever you call it and then just did that little walk and got my hair curled Dude, I used to I used to meet photographers on model mayhem and go to their houses. Yeah, I don't understand You can actually still find some old photos of me on camel toes. Oh, yeah, I had one of the strongest camel toes in Milwaukee

You should tell you don't never brag His penis up and he pulls the jeans a brown his balls because it's not about the penis. It's about the toe I'm glad these women are here. I love it. Well, the thing about Teal Swan is her voice You would think a leader would be bombastic, you know, just like you obey me But her voice is very controlled. It comes in you come into her. It feels like you're being psychic very intimate awakened It's very intimate and then you know next thing, you know It's like our three in her videos and you're like, what have I been doing totally? I mean, it's very hypnotic She has we were saying on the show

She has a voice that sounds like Elizabeth Holmes a little bit in the sense that she yes, it is a deep. Yes Exactly. It's like it's not I don't know that's really my camel toe. Yeah. Oh Oh, my god. Oh, no, my wife is here. Tell me more. It goes soppy camel toe. I love that I feel like the luckiest boy in the desert So she got really into the sort of new age because she was around the Mormons She wasn't her family was not from LDS and we've talked about we just did a Small little boutique cult on last podcast called the children of thunder and we talk about one of the superpowers of Mormonism Is that ability that's baked in within their central philosophy that anybody can have become a prophet and can have a

Revelation and then can start their own crew because they cut it's all built-in so she kind of already was yeah franchising and she was already actually Aware of this factor like literally. Oh, I can just do this So she started off modeling on model mayhem sounds fantastic and then she started doing YouTube videos at what point Or before the YouTube she started a following in the new age community where she was and this is a tangible community That wasn't online. Yes. It was when we put up a monthly sketch show in New York So that was I think integral to her because this is where she established this one specific guy who is still next to her He is her like validity essentially. He will say he's a yes man to her Okay, this is like data. This is a dr. Cuckinsen that I saw that on the guy a documentary open shadow. Yes. Yes. Yes

So this kid she found him early when she was developing a commune of like-minded New Age people He came by and became her kind of sidekick and he's basically the only person who's been with her the entire 15 20 years For her and he sets up all the video shit for her and he he validates any story. She says I want that relationship. I find him. Can I have a boyfriend that sets up my twitch stream and feeds me. Yes First mate the courting to teal the way she found him was she met him at a party I can tell what she's thinking is that she clocked him She's like and then and then she showed up at his house one night in her early 20s saying that she was like being

Assaulted and then he took care of her. Yeah, okay, and then they moved together First of all Amber you're gonna have to be slightly less picky with your dates cuz I hear your dating stories And I always feel bad for the guy so Yeah, we call them Amber stories really 50 50 50 50 with your stories. We don't know who's the victim who's not oh my god I mean, okay, maybe I am a monster. No, you're not a monster I don't know people called Natalie and I monsters. Yeah, sure and now look it's okay The last guy I said no to I went on a date with him and he literally said nothing the whole time I'd be like, so you're gonna go see your mom soon

Huh, why didn't so you just had an opportunity to have this man. Yeah, that's a thing That's the guy that's the guy because yes, men don't better Zip it zip it. He said nothing nothing two hours. No great perfect. Maybe he was mute You disgusting Disgusting so back to teal swan the real psychopath So she actually had a commune of actual people and then how did what happened? How did she get to the so internet and why did how did she discover that because like Henry said she is an og Yeah, talk about you just straight-to-camera blabbing talk about boom flip it. So she got that first guy

Yeah into a relationship he she made it so that she was too much for him Yeah, but that they were still connected. So they stopped dating They're conscious another partner. Yeah, this partner is from the Mormon community. Okay, and he has is completely sex-deprived He talks about this. He's done interviews and so she comes in and like draws a man with this And he's really good at tech so he starts building a website and he also has Helped her develop this in the first couple years. However, he detracted because she told him to kill himself And then he committed himself to a mental institution and he got away that way Couldn't handle the heat. Oh, it sounds like if anyone tells you to kill yourself. Don't do it number one

Don't and yeah, please get out of there. We don't need a Michelle Carter situation Yeah, so he's a very he's spoken openly if you want to hear his story He does a four-hour hour interview on the show Mormon stories. Oh, I've seen that website and it is very great Oh, that's warming Henry that's pornography But Is it true? So Neil would you say that the main controversy the reason why we kind of all now know about teal swan is her Her views on suicide one of the reasons. Yeah, there's a couple and that's like but that's kind of like that was the big hook in

Which is being like oh, wait a second She basically and maybe correct me if I'm wrong her viewpoint is that suicide is essentially neutral Almost what she called was it a restart button. She calls it a reset but a reset button reset button Yeah, but you don't get turned back on now. Why does that work for her? Well, because like she she puts those keywords in right that I'm depressed. I'm feeling suicidal I had this horrible thing in my life. She's drawing people in who are already on the cusp, right? And so she has this way of And she's correct in this there's not a lot of good mental health care and especially for suicidal people

They're just isn't yeah, so a lot of times people don't know where to go how to find in her the way that she talks in assurance and the way that She's beautiful and these these sort of almost satanic like satanist sort of like at first when you hear her You're like, this is fucking cool, man. I get this. I feel this the satanic which talks about this idea Yeah, I am telling you and we talk about this all the time It's all about the packaging a lot of times in especially in this type of world the world of Enchantment in the world of person-to-person bring you in which was now you could see is obviously Manipulated by cult leaders like the thing about teal swan that works which is kind of even people ask me Be it like people have asked me like how does a good podcast host come about how does that work?

It's that the person has to match the material and that you look at teal swan And she looks like an alien and that she looks like this ethereal untouchable type of person especially with the no blinking It's fact even I've never even thought but it is true It's no blinking because I watched a how-to-act-for-film class by Michael kai Michael kai Malko kai set Michael kai Malko kai What was this a master class? Oh, so no no no it was just some he did this hour-long talk that's online But he paid for it. No, no, it's free on YouTube. You know how to act for camera. Yeah, you just stand there

Hey, you bet him, but you've been in movies. I haven't acted in three years And so the Michael kong what he said straight up is that if you want to be believable on camera is never blink and that That's like what that was like one of his big lessons. No, I want to blink Yeah, he says never making my eyes itching. Yeah, no came your eyes open But teal swan is the perfect example of like I I don't believe the words that are coming out of her mouth But you could see how a less prepared person could believe Yes, and Amber you were mentioning that when you were going through a hard time in your life in a different point in your life You're like, I'm really glad I didn't Google the things I was thinking and found her because I feel like and I get that

I feel like she's somebody you could fall into and then it's that sort of you go down the path And then you're in the you're in the thick of it. You can't get out again. You're just like, oh, I'm here now I have to agree with everything after yes, and what's happening here Hey, what's up everyone, how you doing Ben kissle here with Henry Zabrowski Yeah, it's me bad. Yeah, bro. Henry Zabrowski is smoking some of that sweet last podcast Go out there and purchase yourself some I hope you enjoy it We have sativa we have indica and we have a hybrid and I have to tell you for my personal experience They are wonderful super tasty live resin. You really get the delicious weedy taste which is what I like and three different experiences

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He says about how all your thoughts dictate your reality and I was like cool rock and roll Everything is mental All her medic thought is kind of based on that so then I fall asleep and I wake up to episode 12 And he says so we all know Jewish people come from outer space Yeah, you missed a lot there Yeah, so going back just to kind of lay the groundwork still on her So she so she got the website up and going she got a little following on her web page And then she went to YouTube and how long did this take before people were like oh shit

She's the one for me. Was it a slow process or didn't happen relatively quickly pretty I think pretty quickly. She's not that She's only 37 years old. Oh, yeah, she's about she's almost 40. I think but she started doing this when she was after she started seeing the Satanic Panic therapists and came up with this origin story Basically the packaging developed. Yes, you got it developed. So that was about 22. I want to say she was 22 So, you know this happened relatively quickly and then she started YouTube and then she came on to YouTube Okay, and and she also wrote a book which would I would consider like her sort of dianetics where it's her methodology Oh, yeah, what's it called again? Um, the sculptor in the sky

It's not that one. She also has the connection process a spiritual technique to master the art of relationships She's really successful. She has a lot of books. She also has shadows before dawn because she has the next same thing So I went on a hunger of the pine. Yeah, oh the anatomy of loneliness. Very very your way back to connection Yeah, but here's the thing about all these books as you listen to these In doctrines and if you ask me to recite what she said afterwards, I'd be like, I don't know, but I felt good Yeah, oh, yeah, I was talking with Shane Morton a long time ago It was like kind of my mentor who works on your pretty face is going to hell And he always kind of says this too because I was talking about how there was a period of time where I had

LRH's speeches like on CD and I was listening to them in my car, right like last week It was it but I mean like I was but there was a period was when I still had a CD player in the car So I kept like listen I would listen to it like as I went and it is really interesting because eventually it does It is all gobbledygook, but it does begin to make sense and after a while you're like, well, it's just actually kind of funny And she's what people said about Rush Limbaugh. Yes, but Shane Morton would talk about this. It's about rhythm It's about rhythm and then like that's kind of what I was gonna bring up about teal swan is the most impressive thing Is what you were saying before Natalie to me. It's her ability to run that mouth Yes, I watched the seminar of hers was like an hour long

So now I guess like the YouTube thing once the population grew her group group because now she started doing these workshops Right where you could pay it's like 200 bucks a pop to go and straight up. She also has a full-time commune now Yeah, yeah, she wants to save the money to buy land. She wants to have a country. She wants to own a country I like her I Think Except for the whole where she kills people with her words. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but one of her abilities it seems so I think it's like That's a good. That's a question though. We can ask later. Oh, yeah, but she she's the source of information

This is kind of what I've gleaned. She's the source, right? So in order to get her lessons you have to be close to her and kind of pick them up over time It's kind of the way Marshall Applewhite worked like this idea that well I'm the only person with the key that opens the door and so you guys all you guys can't do what I do You need me and she started out that That process saying don't just see me at the top course and then a couple years in she was getting mad at people for your You know your cross referencing people you're not taking my advice and then it became a no only me thing Yeah, yes, she's she's a clairvoyant or Claire sentient, right? Is that what she says she is clear sentient clairvoyant and Claire

Something else Claire Jules. That's where I got my belly button pierced So what does that mean can you clear avoid? I mean obviously I know what the term means but in her context We broke it down very poorly. Does that just mean she reads comments on the YouTube page? She's just drawing to the future. She's I know that she does drawings of the future I know that she believes that she knows future events. Have we seen these drawings? Oh, she sells them for lots of money She also sells jewelry that looks like a little kid did it in arts and crafts show A lot of men dollars she puts together she paints her little paintings and she believes it will help you She says they're energy charged and that they're you put them up and they'll fix your chakras and all that okay

But none of this is nefarious unless of course again, you convince people to commit mass suicide Well, the thing is you got to we already know of two members of her Facebook group that went on to commit suicide Well before of that though is Leslie who she directly Was I personally believe was responsible for her suicide now Can you explain that a little bit because she Michelle Carter this woman a little bit? Okay? Well, I'm looking at some of the teal swan paintings as well And I must say no, there's no I don't know what the it looks like cuz you're blocked a glass window you're blocked drawn And you're not mature enough

Spiritually or sexually understand she does like circles and isn't that important for life? Okay got it Yeah, it does remind me a little bit of like drawings you do well You're not listening to your history teacher Really is this is just what you would draw my word just a mass death Oh, yeah, I mean Amber and I to discuss that she has her journals from her youth where she's oh my gosh She's saying this is proof I was being satanically ritually abused and Amber like and I really our journals all were filled with women screaming and stuff Oh, yeah, I had a vial. I would catch my tears in it. Yeah, you know, are you a witch?

Are you sure you weren't in a satanic ritually? No, I was just you know, not hugged enough Are you sure though to that point people's thoughts are dark people are always thinking about death to very least a lot death and sex and taxes It reminds me of when Kurt Cobain's book released and I would hated it after he died obviously and then released his journals and People were like look at this. He's so dark and cryptic. I'm like, no man He just said kill white supremacist. He just like fuck Nazis Yeah, it was pretty basic stuff with little stick figures shoot real fake bullets. Yeah, it's what we all drew He was a kid. He was a kid and it's normal human thought

So for till swan when you say her words cause people to die This is obviously and very this is dangerous territory because obviously we have a First Amendment And so what do you think crossed the line into like oh shit? This is very bad Well, so Leslie was one of her followers before she became a YouTube phenomenon. So she was one of her first She calls them clients. Oh, it's like the tenacious D when they had the first superfan Yes, essentially. So she was early on in that in that you talk community and okay, she was Going through her own things. She was having some depression. She was on Lexa pro She was trying to deal with this and doing her own thing. She comes into teal's community

Not only is Leslie's husband also involved in this he becomes also, you know fixated on on teal. Oh, yeah they her husband and teal both decide to tell her that You can take medication if you want, but you're never going to be at your heightened soul like that's fine You don't have to do that. We're just gonna be over here being totally chilling up in heaven We're gonna be one with the Gaia you're gonna not be there But it's totally cool because you feel kind of not panic right now. That's totally so yes So that first step happens

She starts to take herself off of this medication without a doctor, which is very dangerous always first massive problem Yes, teal is starting to implement her process and she's like basically using them as an experiment It seems like so she's giving Leslie all these suggestions. It's not working for Leslie teal's getting irritated with her And so let's he's like, please help me. She's like, you're not taking my suggestions Do you even want to live and Leslie? Said yeah, and she goes What was the phrase I've never seen a soul wanting to leave the earth so much as you and then she says You need to either you have to make a choice right now that you choose to live or you choose to die and

Very shortly after she took her life. Wow. She's like the girl Jim Jones She she kind of mean she's like a Regina George from Mean Girls. She Mean Girls people There's other people from her past to who didn't take their their lives But have said that she said very similar trying to challenge them. Yeah and try to I think it's like going to go to inspire that it sounds like she owns a shitty comedy club. She does In this older life and then interviews afterward. She said and then she reincarnated that day That's like other lap in the face. That's her like that's her kind of get out of jail free car, too Is that they just cut the souls go back in rotation? So going back to the reset button after this happens very shortly after when she's giving her talks

It's on video. You can you can I have the footage. I don't think it's online anymore But she says in this she's talking about Leslie to the audience and she said she just there's nobody who could help her She couldn't know spiritual guide could help her so she did what she was supposed to and she but the the great thing is It's two days later. She was reincarnated and the audience goes She was reincarnated as As Dan cook he had his soul replaced does does she have any evidence of said reincarnation? No, just her you you better believe her. You got a believer now Did she believe that she is a alien or a Jesus energy like that that Jesus energy

Also, there was a guru from India from a hundred years ago. She also believes she was him How come everybody who says they're reincarnated is always like Jesus Christ and never like a whore from 1502 She tells people that she also had these other lives like the woman who took her life She told that husband of that woman that she and the husband were in Sorry, this is not a good word Eskimo village together. They were together in a past life Well, didn't it is that she did that Because did you get to kiss and it's cold and then you got a cuddle, but it wasn't real it's all fake But she did the thing where she was trying to keep him in play by being like, you know

I had a dream once and you and I were together like did that type of thing, but and he was like And so the husband of the Leslie the woman who committed suicide he didn't seem to care that his now wife is dead or then wife is dead He's still a teal fanatic who he he was interviewed and said he can't afford to see her anymore She won't see him because he can't pay but his dream before he dies is to spend one more hour with her That's why I was like if you saw her live it'd be different because I was watching the seminar as if people pay all this Money to go to and it's a very much at the style of it was at the show the other side Where she teal swan in a BBC investigative report. I was watching she said straight up People who come to me are already broken and they're looking for me to be there

And so she said the what I hate that I get another terminology. She said the quiet part out loud Said that straight up this idea that like she knows that if you're in that room to see her you got something fucked up going on So what she does is you she says up top. I don't know what's gonna happen today I don't know what you're all gonna say, but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna read that because she says that she can read All spirit flows and all auras. She said that when she watches society It looks like a 400 television screens are going on at all times. You can see your auras. You can see your go see your guts You can see your digestive system Yes, I mean she picks questions out of the crowd and then what she does is to bring them up nexium style where the idea of like

We're gonna talk openly about your inner shit and that's gonna release it, right? But then what she'll do is she'll some guys some some random ass thing and then she'll be like and I'm so I knew you were gonna Ask that question which is where we're gonna bring it out to the audience And we're gonna talk about how you what your dumb thing that you just said is now It's pliable to all of you and then everyone just in going Business building exercises this is this is why everyone says oh hotels aren't they fun It all takes place at Holiday Inn's this all of this is conference room nonsense It is like yeah like I wonder and I wonder if they do what evangelical

Liars pastors do where you fill out a comment card before you go in oh you and then you get obviously they have a little person Go and grab the comments and that is like oh what got something here So it's interesting. She knows that her audience is traumatized But unlike you know you can say what you want about someone like Tony Robbins for example He's had some misses, but for the most part he's in that positive I think people and I don't think he's helped people commit suicide the fact that you know your audience is Deeply traumatized because that's where they're there and then for her to take advantage of it really is that's what's so gross

It's not like Accident no no it is gross the last psychic I went to see and like I love spirituality. I love psychics I love to believe there's something more than me, but a lot of people they really take advantage of you The last psychic I saw she was like it seems like you need to be healed for the masculine and the human spirit And I was like now I'm having a great day, and then she looked at me like so pissed off like fuck. Yeah She's like oh shit. She's like no you you've been having problems with your father, and I was like no He was great. I mean he passed away like ten years ago, but he was great. She's like no no his passing really hurt you I didn't that's the thing though

She actually fucked up right there because she said something about your current alive father Well, you know he's been dead for ten years, and she's like yeah, he's not even being a good psychic now. She's kind of bad I paid her $80. Oh But maybe this is a good time to jump into the kind of the wider idea because it's so teal swan She now is working her way towards getting a legit cold legit structure like trying to have a place where everybody can be physically Isolated what's weird is or interesting is I think she's skewing now because I think she's an opportunist in that way The the most recent thing she's been putting up is about anti-feminism stuff. So I think she's gonna take like a Dana Loche Candace Owens

Spin only feminist right. Yes, right. She says like some of the videos will say like 1960s that really ruined women and we should go back and then she'll be like, you know by my book It's like a very trad wifey. Yeah, I have a platform and I'm selling stuff and I'm a businesswoman, but it's bad Don't do that. I'm naughty for it I'm naughty for the money reminds me there was this Fox News personality Andrea Tantaro And she wrote a book tied up in knots, but she didn't write it. It was written by another dude It was a ghost writer written by a little man Michael Malice who is such a little bitch And the whole thing was how women getting what they wanted made them miserable again

He was written by a man and Andrea Tantaro, but anyway That market is a really unique market because there are a lot of there is a lot of resentment Within the female trust me. I know I know you're right there is resentment So that's the flip market where it's millions and millions of dollars right there So do you think she's just trying to do you think she thinks about it in a financial terms more than she lets on? Oh, yeah, I think she really understands like okay. This is a little rock I can turn over the positioning position that I can do that it makes me unique and I can stand out I think it's money, but I think for her it's way more of the control aspect. Yeah, she's like feeling important

She likes feeling like a very high heightened being and that actually brings me to this next little guy I want to bring up so you think she would rather be a spiritual pope than the CEO of a multi-billion dollar kind of because she Mention or anything she wants the money to a little bit. She likes not having to work Making content talk about about we all wanted it. We were all thought we were lazy wanting to be comedians But it turns out it was ten times harder than getting a fucking office. Yeah, I think she likes the being taken care of aspect of it She has handmaidens and people who do think people she can't plug in her own plugs because of her energy So a woman comes literally comes up and plugs it in for her. She can't touch it. Yeah, she can't touch it man It fucks with her vibe man. Oh, it makes your nipples fall off

I haven't let Natalie touch your socket since I read it Right, I was just like no and I was like take me Lord take my nipples no take those nipples, please But that's why I wanted so now we can break out so again, so teal swan is trying to create an actual physical coach She's going for it. She's going for the golds, right? But there are people that were there are people out here right now these days that we're seeing the term cult as It is bandied about quite a bit and the idea of people using it almost in an ironic sense or a post Modern sense how we call everyone's a pedophile now to everybody everybody's a pedophile Everything's a cult and full disclosure. We have baby gear. This is future cult leader. It's cute. It is cute

So horrible tongue-in-cheek tongue-in-cheek, but like we watched this episode We were watching a documentary on the Hillsong church, right and in my mind. I was watching it. Yes, there's money laundering. Yes There's child molesting. Yes, there is just straight-up manipulation of the week hypocritical Hypocrisy, but the whole time I'm looking at it and they're trying to call it a cult But I'm like, this is just church and so like at what point does something be go from a cult? To what is it from a church to a group, right? Because I believe the idea that we can't prosecute people for thought crime Absolutely people should be able to go and talk about whatever it is that they want to talk about especially on the internet

It is fucking neutral. There's nothing you can do. You're not gonna be able to control the internet no matter what you want, right? People are trying. They're trying, but it doesn't work. It doesn't work. I think a cult in a church The difference is a church would say you can access a higher power. It is within you like here's whatever book You need to read and a cult says I access the higher power You come to me and give me your money and your time. I'm the guy. Yeah Yeah, that is a good point because when we were writing, I mean, I didn't write much of Soul Plumber AKA none of it, but I read it. Thank you But one of these only pieces of advice that I gave was when it comes to evangelical belief in Christianity

They do put themselves second. Yes, that's the idea that God is supposed to be number one God's number one and they almost humble themselves to God and that's a part of this key component So I think that's a really valid point where the cult leader makes themselves God, of course I'm a secular humanist. I think we're our little gods and don't take they take that with great responsibility But you know, that's a really fascinating point But what is the system that you were talking about this morning? Yeah, so the the bite model uses three components Okay, which is the behavior thought an emotion and information. What's the what's the eye the eye information information? Okay, got it. So essentially those are four categories that have you can go down a list

It's not like you can't just check off and go. That's a cult. That's not a cult, but right if you're looking at an organization It's a really helpful guide to go down and see how many they boxes they check off and go This is red flag material trying to contain how you behave If they're trying to control how you think like literally what you think from the inside out if they're trying to control How you feel where they're trying to say oh, you're wrong about this not feeling good And then they're also trying to control the flow of information. So they're trying to control money must be involved in this as well Yeah, that's in that's behavior I would put that under behavior the idea is that because then you're giving up everything to join a little group

But that's why we talk about something like so now I feel like one of the weird things is like We're in this gray area of is something like QAnon a cult, right? Is that I think that there is cult like behavior But what I one thing I you know my opinion to start off is this idea that I think that we are seeing a new thing That this is a new thing that it's not yet not a cult not yet a woman. It is a It's a new thing about how people are starting to understand that just from their homes they could start to mess with Reality they can really fuck with real life and then you can join in on the phone Yeah, I think that doesn't I think the sense of it being a new phenomenon is the fact that Because social media is involved

It's almost a collective of people who decided to detach from objective reality And they're all deciding that at the same time that the Detroit can just be whatever they want Yeah, especially after like during lockdowns because you know, we're six feet apart We're together, but human beings like we need each other to literally huddle against the wind in the cold Oh, I hated that satan the satan say satan indeed. What now it's time to talk about dr. Fauci But um, I hated that same I hated it together. We're what was it together apart? No, we're not It was very it was very bad branding for a thing that humans cannot control But that's what they I think a lot of people who subscribe to that sort of cune on thought

That's why they become like a kill Fauci. They need a bad guy. It's Fauci's fault Well, can't you just be the chaos of the universe? Exactly. Well, can you be so it now? Of course, we have people who are going to be mixtures of all of this, right? Oh, I'm sure people in teal swans audience That this is the real string theory. They all connect But they really do and so I wonder if maybe it is going back to what you were talking about with more of a dana locia Or kandace owens Uh perspective I wonder if she sees a lot of cune on thought in her in her tribe

And because of that the tail is wagging the dog and she says this might be the way to go I think that's probably true. Well, she sees a model that works. There's actually a uh, this is thanks to our researcher fusco Who sent me this thing which is really interesting that there was a concept created by patricia thorton in 2005 called cyber-sectranarianism Which is this idea of web-based strategies of text distribution recruitment and information sharing strategies with multi-faceted international media campaigns and periodic But high-profile episodes of protest both in and outside the real world explain it to me like i'm five years old I mean the idea that like this is where the starting of like what this quote-unquote an internet cult can be

Which is that it starts at home? It starts from the internet and it is a different thing like a cult where then it doesn't work along a central It's not like the the watkins are controlling this they almost just like blackpilled like half of their society They're happy to cause the chaos and then the difference between a cult and whatever this is is that this is it goes The power is yours. You can go along this into and take it your real life It's like an mlm for a soul Kind of you know, I mean like you get paid when you bring five other souls in yes But there's one person that is really balancing this correctly, which is a person named ramona did you low that is

She's doing a good job. She's really starting to put it all together. Yeah, she is what is called She's been calling herself the self-proclaimed queen of canada. Okay. Well, then I think she is the queen of canada I mean, this is what she's saying. That's what happened. Can I be the queen of Louisiana? Good luck to be honest. Yeah Yeah, you gotta go get it But she is she has jumped on the qanon bandwagon in a very specific way where she has said a group of what she calls White hat people within the deep state They were the people that they're the ones that are helping donald trump attack all pedophiles deep within the government

Donald trump is killing them himself She says that she was appointed by these people as a new queen of the kingdom of canada And she has been creating a group of people online that starts again It's starting as a thought exercise as like she puts a flag of canada behind her. She puts a stupid hat on She goes on to youtube. She says i'm the queen of canada slowly more But and surely people are joining up to her little group It's technically how society was created. It is yeah that they are all creating a feedback loop where they make it real by showing up for her And then she makes it real by talking back to them

And what her main thing is that she wants them to what she's calling them duck hunters And she wants them to go out and kill people that are giving vaccinations. I mean i'm like duck hunt when i was a kid It was a little orange gun. It was fun. It's different. Those are not ducks at all But you know what i'm saying like so she is trying she is using this she is an exact example of like somebody that is taking These new formats and these new flows of information on the chaos caused by the universe itself Spitting a plague out and she's riding that wave and her platform is just nonsense garbage It's just no i heard that she was the queen of canada. So we have to show her some respect But i um the interesting thing is once you get offline

And once you're no longer just a youtube video and you go the jared leto route Of having a compound in marz island now. Oh god. It's he's calling a A he's calling it was it what his name is band 30 seconds to marz 30 seconds to marz He's calling that a 30 seconds to marz immersive experience because i mean honestly I watched a couple of youtube documentaries on him and uh that man is fucking psycho But he don't worry. He just won an oscar and uh hollywood does of course tell us what morality is when i get older I want to join a cult like you know, that's my retirement plan. It's glory law called. It's called retirement home Yeah, that's the biggest cult of all and they all fuck each other and stuff like that

Yeah, but do you think when it comes to her one intangible land in a tangible commune? This is what this changes it now, right? I think this now makes it something where obviously i'm sure she's already been Investing it by the fbi. I'm sure there's she's not in cut. She she had to leave the country Oh, did she already have to leave the country? And i bet the fbi would come to her and she's so beautiful. This is teal swan, by the way This is teal swan, she's so beautiful teal swan I'm sure the fbi would come and rate her and she would like her perfect tits and eyes would just be like fellas Why are you here?

Don't you enjoy your spirit? The fbi they have no uh sexual I think they would get hard on and bad down I I think they're so cold. You're betting a lot on penises And honestly you can really count on penises to be hard and and ignore a lot of things But the fbi I think they do a lot of training to make sure their penises stay down They tape it down But who knows but either way when she gets the compound this is where it could get very dangerous Yeah, I've had dinner with jarred leto several times by the way if he was it was very strange You stay away from my wife jarred leto. It wasn't on a date. It was like groups

Did he eat vegan? I bet he's a vegan. I think so I had had some weird experiences with vegans under the bus although. I'm not one I've had just suffice to say they were bizarre bizarre experiences. He's an odd duck. Um Uh, but yeah, no, she she now has a like a commune a compound and she has people I think we're seeing it in a real time who probably detached from their families and maybe their families Are trying to find them. We don't really know right now because it's like actually happening How many people would you say are at her commune? I think probably just like 30 Okay, so that's not that many keep it small keep a boutique. It's more manageable that way

It could be growing but she has um She has big like two week seminars that happen there all the time too I see and it seems like her clientele as she calls them or probably I would assume middle class to upper middle class rich. Does that make sense? Does that check out? Oh, she will yeah, because it seems like a lot of these cults and we talk about it all the time How would anyone be dumb enough to join a cult? Keith Ranieri was on the cover of fucking Forbes Well, he had a certain cachet teal swan has now been kind of she her bubble I believe has been popped a little bit big for the quote-unquote for the the high end for the big fish

You think so it might be because she also is she really goes for the vulnerable She really goes for the vulnerable There was another person more vulnerable than the son of a wealthy person or the daughter of a wealthy person Where are they? Where is that person looking for love? But she teal swan is now on like regular instagram stuff like i'll be scrolling Well, she's just the video one the video ones go to everybody all the time people share our content Oh, I see, but she's not like this. So she is kind of she still I believe keeps it Towards the very broke. I think it's people who can't afford it are giving her money

But yeah, sure. Sure. There's somebody like Chris Contelmo who started this new group where he believe he's created a basically a church around DMT Is a guy that started on reddit reading about this guy. He's very very interesting. Uh, he just recently committed suicide That's not good. It's not good From too much DMT. No, you did the devil horns and made it sound fun Suicide Suicide while you're on DMT. Does your brain live in chaos forever? I actually that's a really good question. Nobody try please No, no need. Um, but Chris Contelmo He did this thing where he he was a Yale physicist that got turned on DMT and it changed his whole life

And he came out and he said that DMT cured his brain cancer He later on went to go reel that back because he said I never had brain cancer But I had the worst brain cancer of all which is atheism and DMT cured that He has a bunch of different rules if you read about his thing But what you know, he said, you know, basically he's the only person that got the information from the DMT machine elves And then he is going to get that convenience. He really doesn't he's the only one who's who's evolved enough to do it And he's giving it to his followers but what he is what he was actively trying to do was get celebrities

And porn stars and all these people that come to his little house and do DMT He gave some people believe that he gave out close to a million dollars in retirement money buying people reddit golds Flying people out to go see him buying people podcast equipment So he could be on their podcast doing this kind of shit. So I mean again great for art I mean, it just sounds like another one of those like negative 48 scams where it's just like a guy going I'm just gonna throw it out there and see if a bunch of people come and fuck me and give me money and it worked Is it bad? well for some I mean with the negative 48 thing a lot of

Families are like my my, you know life is now gone. She's like what's the negative 48 The jfk cult. Oh, can you? Elucidate. Yeah, I don't know about this. Oh, this is uh, this was happening for the last. I don't know When did it cut it was after january 6 all that There's a certain amount of that stuff that I literally cannot engage with because of how stupid everyone in all levels are involved You guys have definitely they went to where jfk was shot. Oh, they were waiting for him to return. Yeah, they're all so dumb But they never left. No, no, they're just there now. They're there now Yeah, they just live there and it'll calm you and they're just camping out and there's a guy who runs it

And they call him negative 48 and they use that. What's that call with it? Then you do the number Symbolism stuff. It's numerology, but it's like It's like so childish the way they're like a is one and b is two and then you do you add them together? Oh, yes And uh, so a bunch of people just like gave their their entire lives Wax their credit cards out for this guy and they all just hang out now together My question is this being like why would you it's this is I obviously we're we all know we've all been there in a way We're like I have given myself over to paranoic thought

But I do it I I do it for the show like I do it creatively like I jump in I'd like to stretch my mind to think and allow whatever idea goes in there free thinker. I'm a free thinker But I can delete the ideas What is this just about media literacy like is this literally just trying to have people understand that the more use like Because we had this conversation this morning But the idea that I think people don't understand that what they see on their computer is the their screen is unique Compared to everybody else. Yeah, I think half of those people are blackpilled Liking watching the destruction of society and the other half think that they are on a mission from god himself

herself And they have to save the children itself. God is a big chicken. Oh, it's a dog. Oh god's a dog That's fine. I want it to be a chicken. You can have it whatever you want to be. Yes Yep, they're there to save the children They're there to let people know that Covid is not real like they Believe it with every answer they're being and I think that that's it's hard to differentiate who which where do you fall on which side? Because the more you research the more your algorithm is gamed for you to only see the same thing again and again

So you think you're the only person right? There was a study that was done And 77 of the people didn't realize as Henry was saying that their instagram or facebook is unique And so that's why you look at them and they tell you about Child sex slave rings in comet pizza and you're like, I don't think so and they're like you didn't hear the news No, I'm like and salt may if you look at $31,000 for shitty steak and hanging out with that guy that man's a cult leader He is a fucking

Cult leader cult cult cult cult cult. It's a salt cult But if you listen to the man who went down to comet pizza It was a three hour live stream that he gave and he actually had very good intentions Yeah, and he had kids and he was like, I just want to say he thought he was saving the world And he I think it was quite enlightening when it wasn't the case and then he's like No, how did I get here? You just put the shotgun in the middle of a pizza place You probably wonder how did I get here and it really is so sad as well because these people again are broken I had to delete tiktok because it was showing me increasingly more hateful stuff

And I was like wait a minute like the video that broke me is this woman got on there and she's like all men are rapists And I was like, excuse me. Yes, and then I was like wait a minute You've been showing me like increasingly hateful stuff, you know, and I was just like that algorithm is on purpose That's a thought war that's going on right now just like fentanyl is a is a tangible war that you could argue Um, the chinese tiktok for example is much different. Yes, they uh, they promote dancing and and music playing and science Or yeah, I mean it's a whole thing. Yeah, and of course you have to love the state and all those types of things But that is on purpose. Yeah, my my instagram initially was all right wing charlie kirk I'm a straight 40 year old white dude, and so they're just like he's gonna love it

It's taking me forever just to get to tits of videos. It's pizza. It's boobies Me I keep my boobies out of my instagram. Oh, sometimes they just because I clicked on and I'm sorry my beautiful white But one time I give you click on one big titted gilf It changes your whole Yeah, and I didn't know because it took pictures so small in the square that I just clicked it and then all of a sudden I was like Oh, she's very old granny acceptance has to be that's fine. They're beautiful, too You can look at them. You can look at them baby. I'm saying it fucked up my algorithm now. It's 40 percent gilf You do go test a little bit. I don't think that um, you maybe had clicked on more than one

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January 6th when he was chasing the cop up the stairs. He was like in all the pictures his his fbi Interview after he turned himself in got released and it is a lot of him going to the fbi agents So you guys hear about this uh This you know this pizza this peace place the the storms come is the storm coming? right Like very very I just look at pottery on instagram And then I don't know what you mean and then he was he was asking them with full earnestness in his voice

I mean, I'm just some guy from india. I found all this. I mean, how are you guys not seeing? I've been doing all this research and I found this. How do you not know? Very confused and so like having that sort of awakening to it is that he didn't he doesn't know He's getting sent all of this stuff. I feel kind of bad for him now Sort of he let himself down the valley and then you have to figure out a way to pull yourself out like that I feel like that's what it is. I think it's okay to be very curious But you need to find a way you need to have like a parachute line You got something to pull you up out

We also need a better phrase than do your research or I did research because I don't think a lot of people know what research is Like you try not research youtube is youtube Do you guys have friends that are different than you? You know people that think and behave differently. I agree. That pulls me out of a lot. IRL. That's where you need them You need to realize your life. Absolutely. Nellie, we were talking a little bit too like now So we'll say okay. These are all in the sphere of politics self-help This shit also has crawled up into the guts of can you even believe in entertainment? Like yes, are you telling me the entertainment industry is susceptible to stupid thought kissle?

What so barba's dry sands been replaced? She's alive. She just turned 80. She looks great barba. 80 years tight But nellie we were talking about 7m 7 management Which is the thing we talked about a little bit on side stories, which is like people that are kind of creating sort of like TikTok influencer homes, but that seem to be far far right christian. Yes angle. That could be a cult It it kind of is I mean he's he's housing adults There's a tiktok house near my house as well. Oh, no, they're working on the lawn and stuff. Yeah, they do tiktok stuff Yeah, it's always these seem to be having fun. They're just always muddin somehow. You're like, there's no mud here

Where did this come from? Yeah, I don't know. Um, yeah, no, they're Yeah, there's 7m is is is raising a lot of controversy because it is beautiful Sexy Talented dancers on tiktok and they're like doing you're like, wow It's not like the stupid waist dancing. I think that's stupid. The people who just do their stupid. No, they're professional dancers And they're great and they're they draw you in and then they're like We go to this church, but They are being the the dancers are kind of being micromanaged by this this very elusive older man and his

Nobody knew what he looked like until recently and somebody caught a picture of him. Who is he gross-looking? I'm trying to find him right now. He's just like a dumpy old guy. I get the pretty girls to come dance for me Hey, I mean it's sometimes you got to see something besides other old men. His name is robert shin I mean, it's a tale as old as time. Literally. It's biblical. I mean, Jesus That's why he hung out with a lot of hot chicks for a reason. Yeah, that's why he was so cool. Jesus was gay It's possible Also, the truth is if he did exist in the realm of the bible, he would actually be quite wealthy Well, the people think you would be poor but technically you've having that sandal in row

But was very fancy. Oh, yeah, but she kind of church. That's where robert shin comes from. That's the shekaina Yeah, and so he is trying to put his own stamp So but again, what's the difference between a cult and if you are an over 18 years old And you can go and sign up for this management company where you do believe in his weird You know slice of christianity and you actively decide Hey, I am going to be a part of this and then he is showing us we go and show the world God's love through my my my waist dancing, right? Like like what's the difference? Well, he's controlling their bank accounts

They're they're where they live and the families and the friends of people in it are going They're they're gone now. We can't talk to them and please help We don't know what to do our daughter stops speaking to us And then the daughter comes on and she does the sort of talking head. I'm perfectly fine I love my life and I am not an occult. I just don't like my family anymore I did see her bdi's and I do sort of kind of almost believe that she believes in with some level that she does What and she does believe in what she's doing, but that's also what occult does. Yeah, maybe her family's just annoying I don't know. That's so sad that some algorithm is driving people apart

I mean, I know this guy's an actual person But you know going back to like the algorithm and what people see that so many people are being they're not speaking to their family anymore Because these videos told me not to talk to me ma. Yeah, maybe me ma needs some love Well, maybe the family's annoying and you don't want to talk to them as well So that all is also possible. Well, I guess just to kind of bring it back to teal swan Just where do you guys think this is gonna go now? I mean I mean, she's in phase. What phase is this? Suicide?

No, once you move out of the states, right? So now we're in Costa Rica. We're sort of Jim Jones territory More YL, even more, the Farty version of it Fartiest of all the call leaders from Chicago See Where do you guys think this is gonna go with teal swan? Because at some point Does she is she one of those people who has Does she do any end game speaking? Does she do any end of times talks at this point? Has she taken that turn yet where it's like and at some point we're all gonna have to die, you know that, right?

Everyone's like, okay Well, I mean her whole methodology is based on Suicide is just starting over again that everybody's reincarnated. So don't be worried about death Which is always a little bit of a scary Thing to start out with Um, I don't know why they always got to start with that. Can't we just be like, can you make me jump higher? Well, I mean, I shouldn't say start because that's not that's video 12. Yeah, it gets in there. Oh, yeah Yeah, that's it. Yeah, you've been pulled slowly along and then you get to her real thoughts. Yeah. Um, I don't know

I really hope it just that she keeps grifting and maybe she will just become like a right wing Like mouthpiece Fox Fox nation I hope that it might go that way. So the best case scenario is just Middle of the road. Yeah, it's bad business to kill yourself. So you're saying really honestly the only way to fix this is to get her on the mass singer Or she needs she'll be on there. This is where hollywood could come in. Yeah, give her attention Yeah, because that's what she wants, right? And I really feel like there's some way we're like, okay

Before she starts telling everybody to fucking kill themselves and maybe has a couple of shocks She can replace amber heard in aquaman Yes Yes By the way, obviously that's a fun little trial if people want to watch it but uh, she making it duke The poop gate is always a round table thing and I saw it trending on twitter and like finally we made it Maybe amber heard shit in the bathtub. She did. It's amber Amber turd um that fucking bitch

So you think that this is just gonna now go into much like the k remember the double down at kfc And everyone's like, oh my god chicken. No bread. This is the most disgusting thing ever, right? And it was shocking and they had posters for it and now it's just stabilizing and now it's just on the menu Yeah, yeah, yeah now it's just now. Oh, yeah the double down but when it comes out It's like, whoa, this is amazing So do you think that teal swan is just gonna sort of like home or simpson in the meme of going into the bushes? Is she just gonna become part of the million of american thought isn't that sort of the question about all of these sort of doomsday Q and on ask

anti-vax Groups what's gonna happen to them eventually and the anti-vax movement. I mean robert We just played a clip on ablingon's top at robert kennedy jr. He's very anti-vax You have a lot of conspiracy left and right these it's all over just meet their tips And what they'll do is they'll like pull somebody from another opinion and be like look how everybody else thinks and this other person I think was just fucking crazy. You know what I mean? They'll be like look at these like other opinions This is how they all behave and I'm like no We don't behave like that because you have somebody again

They all bring into this this the queen of canada Rowena did you like we have no fucking clue Whether or not any one of her dingbat people that follow her are gonna go and actually commit violence against a nurse or a doctor It does seem to be kind of like how the convoy that whatever the trucker convoy when it came to the dc Right, it all fell apart because it mostly was a convoy was a joke. It was dumb But it was the thing was that it was mostly people online going like yeah Let's get them and then feeling getting that kind of cortisol or whatever that that hormone that you got feeling like Oh, yeah, I'm a part of this group make it different. Yeah, you go like My back hurts. Oh, it's on a Thursday. Oh, I gotta I have to go out of the house and do this

Where it's like the same thing with the duck hunters like I feel like at some point it feels good to be like Yeah, I got them But then you don't know whether or not they're actually gonna do it and like This is kind of this like sticky thing of like right. Do you shut her down? Just because she's saying to do all of these stuffs. I think because she's inciting violence directly She didn't switch it to citizens arrests. Obviously. Yeah, but like that type of thing like what do we do with that kind of show? I don't know. What do we do with all the people who keep giving dates that stuff's gonna happen and it keeps getting pushed Is that just gonna happen forever?

Mormonism, they've all been doing it forever. I know April 16th, you know, we're all gonna go show our assholes to the moon I wish that was I think we should yeah That actually next April 16th 2023 all right, we're all all of america is going to feel compelled to show their assholes to the moon The moon like you're camping and you saw a train. That's what you do. You moon the train That's a little tidbit there from the campgrounds. That's track rape. I don't think I don't think that is okay. I don't think so. I don't think so Well, this has been absolutely fascinating teal swan. I again, how do we fix it? You can't uh, I don't see platforming

Come on girls because then we would get deep platforms, you know what I mean? I don't get deep platform We've already been whatever we were pre-canceled cancelled because that's called not getting cast um, but uh shadow we can't uh, we can't ban it. No, it's just thought Um, so I guess the only thing we can do is just try to educate the people that are watching And also literacy And also, you know, I'm sure there are I bet you 20% of what she says can help you Well, that's so take the best out of everything. Yeah, the best whether it be religion or leaders Even jim jones did some good stuff in indiana. Oh, you know

So take the good out of everything and then you can cobble together because we're all self editors of our own reality You can cobble together and become a fairly normal person as true shut off your phone Go take a walk around the block and then get your own thoughts together. I think that's the best thing you can do Drink one cup of water. Yeah And no more or no less no less But he also it's interesting kissle because you have spent you really I mean, I uh, I don't want to puff you up too much I already had all that Thai food last yes Yes, uh, but you do have you've spent many years reading both far on the left and and the right side of uh media issues

And it is really interesting to see how they uh, it all hangs together and how like and what do we you know? I feel it is and uh, you could just say to our people as much as possible Like I try to read news outside of america to see how people do us I like to see you how because again, you really have to try to train your brain to not get pulled into the first thing you say Ritical thinking and deductive deductive reasoning is really important to people with different values than you or different political beliefs and empathy An empathy and just be like i'm a normal person. Maybe you're a normal person Spun check out someplace underneath. Thank you guys doing such a great job

I think we're having us the shows have been so thick I really appreciate all the work that you guys do and good work. I mean we have we have to live up to the lpn standards And I know that like we're not a marcus We have we we make up several marcuses physically but if you guys cough really loud and stuff and have bleeding assles You can be marcus for the day I'll give him a shot. I love it. Yeah, it's gonna be a red moon next april 16 When marcus shows his bunghole to the to the stars, we will say how can we all say we miss marcus on three? one two three

Of course, he needs to get asleep and he'll be back next week fucking better. You fucking better be all right everyone Well, thank you so much for listening to this special episode with spun and two of the three boys from last podcast on the left You all are just wonderful. Thanks for supporting the network and henry and I may six at hollywood at the avalan We're gonna be doing a little show together. We don't know what it is, but it's next friday So we should probably talk about it. We should figure it out. We should probably talk about that And also we're going to be making an appearance at the weed conference whole flowers next week may 4th Yeah, oh my god now. We're gonna have to hear the may the 4th be with no i'm hearing nothing I don't even say it all right. I'm hearing i'm not hearing it. Hmm. All right everyone

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