Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: A Break From Reality

Episode Date: August 22, 2019

Ben 'n' Henry break down this week's true crime news: Epstein update, a competitive eating death, and an Edmonton man admits to a gruesome killing but says he's not criminally responsible. TRIPLE L.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left side stories That's when the cannibalism started We survived Atlantic barely man barely we survived Atlantic survive Oh, holy shit, dude. We were on our Gallagher two-tour which involved three shows in two casinos And I think it's safe to say this is my little joke remember my little joke Henry. Yes. I'm a gambler with a comedy problem That's very scary. It's very scary once you have mug like catchphrases For your gambling addiction. That's when it gets scary because you're normalizing it. You're shifting it to the center

I've been no, I'll say you all right. You were I'm gonna say gambling irresponsibly Oh, it's a direct witness of it You were trying to show Marcus and I the ropes which is a funny sighting in the first place because it was just a huge father with his To ghoul like children walking through the casino kissles this man. Let's go. Let's go. We gotta go. We gotta get we Have to get the tables. I'm gonna show you blackout 17 blackout 17. It's that easy And he's yelling and you all Marcus and I are like we want to go to the ice cream store Daddy you said we were gonna go to the rollercoaster three hours ago daddy daddy. I want a hot dog I but Henry we can't before we start the show full disclosure in

Bethlehem, Pennsylvania that roulette I had a iconic roulette run I had 11 numbers on the board. I had stacks of chips in front of me I you know, it's funny because of all our fans are just big dudes So it's just a bunch of big guys be like, all right, let's see what you got man I mean, you know, we're not we're not Leonardo DiCaprio. We weren't surrounded by supermodels I like my beefy boys and they were very encouraging. You had quite a collection Here suit young men Staring at you like you were Bobby Bonilla in his prime

They were so entranced by your game playing because I'll say this right so Atlantic City. Yes Irresponsibly done. Yeah, we all got very very drunk. Yeah, I know I lost three hundred dollars immediately Right, but though I will say kissles somewhere in a haze. You walked over to another casino We left one location to go to a second location. What you're never supposed to I know I know we went to we went to another place You were literally and you were trying to explain it to me. You were like Oh, I'm not sure the whole map the whole map is easy as pie. It's which is you gotta game it You got to be smarter than the ball You're gonna do me. It's a little bit more. It's more stroke victim than hammered, but I'll take it

You don't know what it gets to when it's just it's not about just us sitting at the bar It's you you become a different type of person in front of casino It's like your eyes turn into little dice And you become somebody else, but I did watch you go click click click click click and just put money All over a roulette table and you just like stare and at it fucking one five hundred dollars There it was okay, but then you lost it all. Yes, of course you lost it all but in Bethlehem This though that hit that run you were on Scary it was because I'm cold the numbers. I look for you for an hour

I couldn't find you all of a sudden you get over there and the way you're talking you have you're holding court With all these sandwich boys and trying to explain to them how like you say And they don't have the money that you're wasting we just left getting paid We went from a paid gig you just went blip blip blip blip blip with your big ol feet over to a roulette table These are people that are there on vacation. No, they're not they didn't just get paid They've already been spending money and watching you lead a bad example. Oh, no, I was I was fairly conservative I did not waste too much money everyone because I Respect your money when it comes to patreon, but I will say this what what is the what's the secret before this?

Not a gambling podcast, but what's the secret? I stick with black odds and I'll occasionally do a zero or a double zero But I have my structure and the game comes to me. You don't want to chase you want the game to come to you That's how you do it. All right, everyone. This is side stories. I am Ben. That's Henry Thank you, but in all seriousness. Thank you all so much for coming out to the shows at AC in Bethlehem so much fun and in Pochesta and I will say it was fun getting a chance to hang out with a bunch of the fans to on the casino floor Oh, yeah, the funny set of circumstances to be there because I'm not a real gambler No, take it seriously and an AC kiss was getting a little mad because we don't take it seriously Which is still very funny

No, that's the problem with being comedians if like if I am getting aggravated you're like Ben's getting mad This is really fun. It's like it's not fun. We're driving it up We're trying to focus. There was one guy that we were playing with in in Bethlehem who had a hundred dollar chip And he's like putting it on black my girlfriend says if I lose it She's gonna leave me and then just hit red and I was like, okay, you just have to your single But anyway, Henry, you know what today is what it's not just any old day today is the 30th anniversary of Kyle and Lyle the Menendez brothers killing their parents. Wow good for them. Isn't that crazy? I'm sorry. I'm sorry Lyle and Eric Kyle and Lyle just sounded better Lyle and Eric

Now, do you think that they uh, do you think they celebrate Mother's and Father's Day in jail? I don't know. Do you think that they they go like got your money? Got your daddy whenever it comes up. I bet you that they probably get taunted every Mother's and Father's Day Just been like hey you guys get a car today. Oh Oh, you didn't because you killed your parents. I get it Well, you know that they actually just showed you have to be proactive about your problems I actually I don't agree with what I just said No, I don't agree with the with the statements that Henry Zabrowski made very good. See you're doing so much better

That's why free speech jail has been pretty unoccupied lately. I am not recuperated though I'm just waiting in the darkness. Okay, the time will come the time will come again for me. I will come again Oh, you'll see I'm aware. Oh, you'll see but wait into my 70s wait until you're seven wait until ten minutes from now But if you do want to feel old Henry Lyle is now 51 years old Eric is 48 It's just there, but you know, it's one of those things where there'll always be teenagers to me, you know me too, man They're frozen in time. It's like Madonna

Madonna will always be that that that we were talking about the sex book that Madonna put Oh, my god, that era Madonna just burnt into my scrotum. Absolutely the years of Masturbating I do love her music, too. I'll still dance of course real life. I can't do the complicated voguing I do watch some of that that that's very very intense. Oh, yeah, it's a real workout there. It's like yoga So there it is 30 years ago today So if you don't know about that case we actually covered the Menendez brothers case So you can go back in our archives and and give that a listen a compelling interesting story and they really I mean They almost got away with it

But they almost got away with it, but they just love that money They'll have shown off that money and that's how it done go. They were so excited did not they were so excited to be orphans You know and there's not a lot of people that are that excited to be orphans It's just Richie Rich and Heathcliff. They're the only ones that are really really benefited from being orphans We can quickly update you on the Jeffrey Epstein mystery that is unfolding into absolutely nothing so far We will just quickly do this because we don't want to do another Dedicated episode to the story until something concrete really comes out because which I I don't know if it ever will But what we know now is right Epstein's bones and his neck on his autopsy reviewed to be broken, which?

technically means it is slightly more statistically likely that he was strangled then Suffocated right, but then the actual official cause of death came out as suffocation so Who's playing a game here? We don't know It's just a little bit more likely that he was strangled But technically if you also just botched the job of hanging himself. He could have done the same thing He literally could have jumped off his bed and if hung suspended we have no fucking proof

We don't know because that footage hasn't come out. We have no clue we have no proof and as we predict it So we have we have that information and of course that water that that is being muddied every single day And I do want to comment when it comes to a conspiracy theory those are now being so mainstreamed And of course when we get into politics, we'll talk more about this case on abling and stop at Yes, check out check out the coverage on abling and stop at as this rolls forward Because kissles gonna do a lot more work on the straight up just what is the information that is coming in and the Political ramifications because that's where this story is kind of headed to but that's watching people spin it for political reasons Exactly

And so that's something we do have to be careful with because if you once the government starts spinning the conspiracy theories They're just doing that so they can continue to get away with it It's much better if the spotlight is off of them and onto much larger notions or concepts like the Illuminati So they're hiding in plain sight. It's still the same and when the president and his crew Start sounding like alex jones That's on purpose that is on purpose They are they are using the storyline for their own benefit for whatever benefit it is if it is just political confusion Or they're uh, or what has become known was when the president says that somebody else did something

It means that he did it, right? Uh now, uh jillian maxwell But I don't want to say anything. I also think that he I don't think that he had anything necessarily to do with it I just think that he definitely benefits from it. Um Um jillian maxwell now immediately after we put out our episode was discovered living She had lived with a long time boyfriend for three years in a mansion in manchester by the sea in boston, right? So she had she actually was there so they did locate her then so that mr. Who's over but then pictures emerged later in the week of jillian maxwell at an in-and-out burger in los angeles her first of all Just the idea of seeing jillian maxwell at an in and out is really funny

Because I don't think that she'd be the type of person to really eat a fast food burger I don't know if she's ever seen one I think she's like so these these burgers are pre-prepared. Uh, yes jillian. Yes What is it? It's a big yeah What is this bit? Is it like confit? Is this like duck confit? No, it is sort of like that, but it's a hamburger. You fucking bitch. I'm gonna call the police But is she She is hiding she doesn't know what catch-up is but they're now saying that those pictures

Might have been staged but henry honestly, I'm gonna give her Well, I'm not gonna give her any credit. I mean, she's no she's the woman behind She's the the the woman behind getting all the children for jeffrey eppstein to rape But she trolled the cia pretty hardcore in that photo shoot because she was reading a book called the mysterious lives and deaths of cia agents Which is just a straight up like hey guys, I'm watching you too and I know how you die They are straight up playing this like a television show. They really are she is also doing she is playing her part But they believe it was staged by her lawyer

But we don't know if that's true because that came out in the daily mail Which it's just trying to do they're in a gotcha Competition within new york post. Yeah post put those pictures out So now we have no clue what's real or what's not real and congratulations us government. You did it You did it again. I will say our prediction was correct on last week's episode though Miss max well is certainly now the tip of the spare and if I am her I am not happy that eppstein is out of the way Because now people want action. They want someone to be prosecuted. Obviously, they're gonna go after eppstein's estate There's gonna be some money coming in as there should be they should all get everything that should all be split up sold

And they should get some cash, but I think max well is currently got to be sweating quite a bit We also learned just a little bit more about this really weird You know, what is it st. James island aka the set from midsummer? It is really beautiful midsummer. It is a beautiful piece of property Oh my god, because we watch some of that drone footage I think if people have been talking a little bit about this is that the there's a drone footage of channel on youtube I forgot what it's called. Let me look this up. Yeah, what is the what is the exciting name of the drone channel on youtube drone? I think it's rusty shackleford

Oh, no rusty shackleford. That's a care. That's a uh, that's from king of the hill That's the dude. That's the name of a character, but that's the name of his youtube channel. Yes Yes, he has been on it for a long time. He's a conspiracy theory page on uh on youtube But this drone footage man henry, so let's talk about this one area because I do think this is interesting You got the you got that disgusting looking blue white striped box, right? It's his masseuse click. It's a little masseuse room. Yes, his little masseuse room interestingly enough My understanding is it only locks from the outside, which is horrifying And it used to have a gold dome on top until the wind blew it off

So a lot of people were referring to it as a temple or something like that Uh, and it is like super creepy. It does seem again like one of the housing locations in the movie midsummer But we they said there was a bunch of beds in there and things like that So i'm assuming it's the quarters where everyone would sleep Now perhaps it was where he kept some of his victims Some of the people that were working the events We don't know and then there's this empty field that just looks like it could only be used for mass murder I have no idea. It's like some kind of mass murder behemian grove style party. Maybe like

Uh, you know, I honestly so much fun in there get some get toss a football around in there Let's whistler Like the you remember those the the nerf like whistle footballs that'd be so much fun You get down there. You got a couple of 15 year olds looking for it whenever you lose it in the woods That's gonna be so much fun. Oh, yeah, buddy's hanging out there like you got a little boat there beautiful lagoon You could see how a man who loves his privacy He would look at this it's because about location location location. What an but an incredible vacation spot I mean now I hope finally somebody honest like an elan musk

Or a tyler parry can own this island. Yes really really flip it or somebody rodney danger fields at it because that's what i'm really hoping for Right turn it into a fucking cruise location A fucking blast it out put your butt all over it put a lot of water slides on it and fight people from Pittsburgh and st paul and our people our people to go down there and to flop around all covered in zinc And 90 spf and just throwing beer cans everywhere. Oh, honestly. Yes We have to reclaim that land in the name of fun and the name of celebration and party Yeah, just the idea of former governor bill richardson and ellen derchwitz tossing the football around nothing more athletic than those two clowns Um, so it was just a bunch of people bent over and they were trying to fit the footballs inside of them

It was horrible. I'm sure it was disgusted and obviously that island again needs to be sold. Hopefully to someone who will We must we definitely will do something much better than jeffery upstate So we will fall now on this story for us is going to be over until we see more but for further coverage Please go do abling and stop at because that's where it's going. That's where we're going be. All right. Let's move on to some Man this week. I don't know what happened, but it's another week full of madness and mayhem in the world What do we almost like it never stops? I want to do this first store. I want to do the story about this Edmonton man Okay, let's do that All right, so this is a story about an Edmonton man. Uh, admits to gruesome killing says he's not criminally responsible

This is reported by the global news. Okay by Fletcher. Kent Sylva kushwall has admitted to stabbing his ex-girlfriend 101 times Mutilating her body now a judge must decide whether he was criminally responsible The Edmonton man was convicted monday of the second degree murder of 38 year old nadine scow on august 24th 2015 and an offering an indignity to her body The agreed statement of facts read at koshwall's trial monday said the pair had dated for three years But were no longer together early one morning koshwall came to scow's building and walked into her suite He stabbed her to death leaving a scene that senior homicide investigator bill clark described at the time as one of the most horrific

Of its long career. Oh koshwall kept stabbing her even after she died using multiple knives from her kitchen Now you were seeing several tenants in the building at 104 street and 106 avenue heard a woman screaming One said that she yelled. He's going to kill me. Help me. He's going to kill me and she did it three times And he didn't call the police. All right So that's that's the thing about this story and henry is going to get into the gruesome crime scene here in a second because It is indeed gruesome But this is also a story and i'm not blaming the tenants here But you have to have a little bit of just like we live in a community

And um, if you hear your neighbor say he's going to kill me. He's going to kill me three times Maybe just pick up the phone Call 911 just in case Always better safe than sorry. He's popping into the citizen app. The citizen app. Sure If you get the citizen app, you could just pop it in there and just blast it out And you can do it totally anonymously if you have to sure So it seems as if the neighbors didn't do this woman any favors Uh, the man was sort of known around the area as being a little bit aloof a little crazy

He said that he had ptsd Well, he said it came childhood Yes, it came from his past in south sudan as a boy where he saw a lot of violence and a lot of He saw a lot of fucked up shit Psychologist leslie block examined kashwaal at the request of the defense He determined kashwaal's mental conditions have rendered him incapable of appreciating his actions But he shows signs of paranoia and delusions now now she's saying he's no longer connected with reality Yes

Now what we cross because he said he's coming across in a deaden state He said this is a man who cannot sleep at night He cannot sleep at night because he still sees the militia Coming around his home and taking people and he can hear the screams still and he sees the next morning The destruction brought on by these militia and how the carnage has been ever present right very very intense Because he's saying they're saying and according to block that he says that the militias came and killed his girlfriend, right? So I don't know about all that very very intense. He obviously is suffering from something. He's suffering from ptsd Yes, he does have ptsd and obviously growing up in south sudan will give somebody ptsd and that of course does not allow you or give you the

Uh credence to go out and stab someone 100 plus times and leave the crime scene the way that he did So the question is this happened in 2015. Why has it taken so long to get this man to trial? And of course that is because we are wondering about his mental incompetence And one of the reasons people say, ah, maybe he's a little on the crazy side Is because of the crime scene he left behind and henry. I know you have the details on that And now this is from the edmonton journal Okay in an agreed statement of facts read into the record by crown prosecutor lori trayhan court heard scows heart ovaries and uterus were removed

And her genitals were mutilated her heart was found pinned to a wall with a knife Beneath a letter a written in her blood. Oh my god. This shit. This shit is fucking for real He trashed her entire apartment with her blood. It is very very intense any idea what the a stood for is that Is there any like I have no idea was he attempting to what message? I'm just hoping it. It's not a I really hope this is not some hidden promotion for adult swim or Like something like that. I mean, that's why we're Yeah, that's why I'd be really really sad to that new brad pit movie

Astronaut where he's the astronaut. What is this one? It's uh, it's called uh add astra It could be for that which I think it's a little controversial I know it's hard to get eyeballs these days because you got to cut through the noise right right, but this is a lot I would hope I wish it was a marketing ploy. So this woman was still alive. So he really had a um What do you think, you know, because we uh, we have a mild expertise and crazy ass people This sounds a little rich. It sounds a little richard chasey to me. Uh, what does it mean when you go after? What do you think it's so personal to go after the internal organs specifically the uh, the ovaries and then he also, um Her genitals were mutilated. So this is something that this man

There's a reason he targeted this part of this woman's body. Wouldn't you think well, he wanted obviously he felt a great deal of rage Whether or not he knew what he was doing. I don't know Uh, when it comes to richard chase, richard chases the basically the tale of very intense Uh, very intense mental illness gets run amok. Yeah, like he came with no treatment and no what's no help whatsoever and Complete and total loss of communication with reality Right when it comes to something like this type of murder is that he wanted to discrate the body It's more just about did he understand his actions were wrong at the time that he know What he was doing was because the amount of time

Spent doing the action because it's about rage, right? Right and after you're stabbing a body multiple times Then you start to wonder Is this person mentally ill And not in control of his actions or Is he Doing it to say that he's crazy right and that does that make you then Extra crazy like if you can say like can you like I did it so people would think I'm nuts

And then I would get off on people saying I'm too crazy to to commit to crime Right, I'm not mentally fit for trial But then people would then what if it's that then shows you are not mentally fit to do anything Absolutely Also, it's about the behavior around the murder as well a neighbor told investigators the pair had issues He'd encountered kajual trying to enter scous apartment the day before her death He'd been seen yelling at her apartment and mashing and all the buildings buzzers and around 12 a.m. On august 24th Another of scous neighbors heard thumping coming from her apartment

Kajual had been spotted on transit cameras walking from his apartment towards scous around that time Around midnight or 1 a.m. Scouts neighbor across the hall awoke to a strange man standing by her bed The man ran out when she attacked him with an umbrella penguin style But the neighbor did not call police nor did she call police when she heard a scream from scous apartment Nor when she put her ear to the door of scous suite and heard moaning I think the police would have liked to know what was going on in that case So we will we'll try to keep you updated. The judge has not yet ruled on the competency of this man It's possible that he goes to the loony bin forever or he's psychiatric ward. I don't want to be disrespectful

Um a psych psych place a mental hospital or it's possible that the judge says hey, you know what this was obviously Premeditated it was so vile. It was so brutal You have to stand trial for the murder of this woman in face incarceration So either way he is off the streets, which is good good. Obviously this man is extremely extremely dangerous He's very dangerous, but that's very very intense. You just got to be careful and again. You just never let him back in No, absolutely So this especially when they start screaming when you're because I understand I know when I'm in a highly agitated state when I find myself screaming at a structure

When I'm outside of a building and yelling at it That's when it's time for like but now luckily I you know Natalie is there to scoop me up Hopefully there's somebody maybe there's a fan that sees me If you ever see me screaming at a building outside Just be like hey man doing all right. You know what I mean? Like give a give a little check in And then you know even I I'll go into a I'll go to one of those places for mental exhaustion Yeah, look malibu passages of malibu. You'll you'll fit right in there with all the celebrities Um, all right. Well moving on to a sad story, but technically a much less disgusting story

It doesn't involve murder. This is unfortunate This is about a competitive eating competition And my heart goes out to this man a Man dies after competing in an amateur taco eating contest contest during a grizzly's game Dude, this is very sad. I want to say but this is what we talked about This is where I always scared when we were supposed to do our own self styled taco eating contest and I almost died I know in the process you did almost die because you're very difficult

It is a dangerous food That's a very dangerous food to eat quickly. You need to do it with a relaxed atmosphere With some guitars playing a couple of beers and you're getting a throw relax Yeah, so this is really sad So just be careful, but he was he did go out technically a winner. His name was Dana Andrew Hutchinson He loved sports and he loved having fun He said that he had not eaten all day. He was ready to do it Ready to go in there and win. He was actually speaking with people and uh, he told one man

His name was eric schmitt. This is according to eric schmitt He said he said he was going to enter a taco eating contest and has not been eating all day to make himself the winner Mr. Schmitt goes on to say when watching the event it was on a jumbo tron. He says he was winning I mean, he was hungry. You could tell my son and I were standing there like oh There's the guy and he was winning because he was starving But then unfortunately he took off. Uh, he took one more bite. He began to choke and the So they cut the titan tron they cut they cut the jumbo tron footage He collapsed

Empties went up to try to help him But unfortunately he died at the hospital about 30 minutes later and he leaves behind two teenage children So just be very so sad. It is so sad. It's so sad Be careful in your eating competitions because you know If you're not pro win, but also pros are pros for a reason Nadia white talks about just what the kind of what it does to her body The amount of difficulty it has because also she throws it all right up too It all comes out of the back of the fucking that's difficult on your throat. Really it's difficult on your gullet

I will say this one statement. It's pretty funny where he said from schmitt He was winning. I mean he was hungry. You could tell my son and I were standing there like oh here There's the guy and he was winning because he was starving. I know but apparently which is just the that's you know what? That's a fucking that's a lesson for life That is you want to win you got to be hungry for that win You do you do but you also got to be careful. Apparently the rest of the weekend's taco truck throwdown events did go on But they did indeed cancel some of the competitive eating events. So there you go I don't know what if I'm not sure if these were harder soft tacos

I'm gonna assume they were hard tacos and I would just say go with the soft taco route I think you're much less likely to choke, but you got to be careful. Anyway, that's just a little story there That's a that's a story of warning a story of woe, but also a story of winning He did go out on top So you are you're a good man, and it's unfortunate what happened to you It's just yeah, dude This story just hit me close to home because I'm currently for an o in competitive eating competitions white castle burgers um spicy chicken wings

Uh, obviously the tacos and some others and some others along the way So, you know, this is just how you're gonna go. This is very possible But you know, but that's why you pick it really you have to really pick it very Carefully, which food you want to go at and what level because I think if you're gonna die during an taco You're gonna die during an eating competition. Guess all the only proper way to do it July 4th, Coney Island hot dog eating competition. So you go down as a true american. Yes only way to Properly schedule your death I love it or if we could get on Sean Evans hot ones

Uh, we I was tweeting about this. I don't know if we're famous enough to get on it anymore I think that we used to be but but now we used to be at the level where it was appropriate But I don't know if we can get on but I'm fucking ready. Yeah, bro So if you know Sean hit him up for us because I don't do that. I'll do that in a gosh darn minute I would love to check that out and uh and see if I can't beat stone cold Steve Austin Who was a total beast on them? Okay, everyone. That's just a little competitive eating story Steve Austin episode was really good. Oh, yeah, dude Stone cold is the best

All right, cool. So this story is about a south indiana man Evidently, okay. His name is joseph Uberhansley. He's 38. He was charged with murder burglary abuse of a corpse and rape in 2014 After 46 year old tammy joe blanton was found dead. What makes this case even more brutal Uh, is that evidently he ate parts of her brain and parts of her body? So this man truly is A cannibal so of course the question is kind of sticking with our story previously Is this man competent enough to stand trial evaluation again? Was he hungry? Was it one of those where it's just like maybe he was just so wrapped up and how hungry you was after

This is like a Snickers commercial. Is that you're not you when you're hungry. Is that what you're saying? This is like a this is like a hangry ad. Yeah, this is where you have what's his butt's dick. Uh, my dick on this Yes, so his lawyers say he's got debilitating a very serious mental health issues. He's got uh, you know, he's His behavior is extremely strange Again, we'll see he'd been convicted uh and spent 12 years in a utah state prison after killing the mother of his child So this is not the first time that he has committed extremely violent acts So this is bizarre that he was even out about that story So but this story this murder had took place on september 11th

2014 around three o'clock in the morning Blanton called police to report that Oberhansley was trying to break into her home police arrived He agreed to leave officers left her home when she didn't arrive at work the next morning co-workers called the cops They found uh, they they said they found a knife in his pocket And it was covered in his ex-girlfriend's hair in blood when the cops finally got this guy and tracked him down Uh, he stabbed her in the head neck and body Then he cut her open with an electric saw and removed part of her brain and ate it raw then cooked And ate another section. He cut out her heart and ate that too

Along with a part of a lung. So No, no, that is another one of those hyper personal weird seems like maybe a schizophrenic break or something It's either a break. You know what it always gets me is when the planning gets that intense, right? I don't know whether that's ever like that's always a question Please if you are either you work for for a psychological forensics You work like with people that have done this type of gruesome murder Please email us at side stories lpotl at gmail.com to help with this this conversation because I really want to know if

if an intricate destruction of a body Something like this that takes time and right effort where you have to go and get tools I don't have to think about how you're doing it. Does that make you more mentally ill or less mentally ill legally? Right does that make you know more cognizant of what it is that you do that you're doing right? Where you sit and you think about it or is something that protracted? a Does that mean that you sat and you've been like thinking about it for a while?

Yeah, is it all so like I don't really know or is it half if it's fucking Half of one half another one of those fucking like gray areas where we really don't understand the human mind It does seem premeditated of course showing up a little bit and then again with this very Uh, I guess he wanted her to be a part of him or I mean we can't do a deep dive into the psychology of this person We're not psychologists, but my god. There was something very personal there They that's what they talk about with cannibals though, right? The cannibals really it's all about incorporating the victim into you Permanently, right? Jeffrey Dahmer openly said that that's why he did it but that he was also the loneliest of the lonely serial killers, right?

Like yeah, definitely the heartbreaker serial killer, so I don't really know it sounds sort of like a mixture then of a process or product Right the process killer someone who loves the process of killing product killer who just someone who wants the corpse So someone who is a maybe a necrophiliac they it's not necessary It's not not they don't necessarily want to murder, but they want the product and so in this case it seems as if It's a little bit of both Because it seems as if obviously he had the intention of cannibalism, but then He seemed to relish in the moments of this one absolutely Because that's it's all the afterwards, right? It's all of that like playing with the body. It's having then control

Right, right. Yeah, right where it is now. It is my play thing. It is my toy. This is very very scary Yeah, and you got to be careful you date out there be careful and listen if you're friends with someone or like co-workers Listen when they're like this person's really dangerous whether it be a boyfriend or a girlfriend There's a lot of kooky people out there. So just be careful. I really want to put him in the category kooky people Yeah, he really is just he's a really kooky quirky guy. Yeah, you know like uh, you know Yeah, like um, what was the name of Woody Allen's love in all of his movies The woman that always was in every one of his movies his love interest. Oh diane keaton Yes, a real diane keaton like a real diane keaton. We're in a suit and it's like oh, that's kooky. That's fun

I actually want to cover this story really quick not the blob story. All right story. Let me cover this story This from the Daily Mail. So it's a rag, but it's fun. Okay police find mummified human remains in a closet and a shrine to an unknown deity at the home of a new jersey man Who is accused of sexually assaulting a 13 year old girl Jesus new jersey police discovered mummified human remains and an alter to an unknown deity in the home of a man Who has been accused of sexually assaulting a 13 year old girl? Robert frank williams 53 of new work was arrested on friday following reports They had abused the child over several months the sx county prosecutor's office that the abuse began in 2018

But now they have not confirmed the identity of the remains and it's unclear if the remains are from an adult or a child It was a mummified human in a bin in his closet literally in a storage bin It's your pictures from his facebook page I love the fact that we're in age two We're like can you imagine just like having followed jeffrey dommer when he was right? He did crimes or out like what it would see his daily life what it was like Yes on fucking social media and in this Daily Mail article and you can find it That the headline is please find mummified human remains in the closet and a shrine and then you guys can go from there

I'm sure that'll come up Um, but you can see the pictures of this shrine And it it really is extremely interesting this very intricate This guy also would put captions on all the pictures So this is a a caption that he had one of on one of the photos that showed a bunch of dirt stuffed in tight Stuffed inside two sandwich bags. I hear I'll read it already. This is this is his quote on social media I'll collect dirt for men's and women's tombs Catholic and Jewish cemeteries as well as all required dirt to build pots if you need specific dirt

Then I can collect any amount needed And it's all very strangely spaced out strangely spelled the it's kind of yeah, it's a pretty much a general The general fucking might say an altar. I mean it seems pretty cool He has several pictures of him with a crown on another picture I'm in full top hat with what it could only be described as a voodoo on like yeah Accessories a lot of skulls a lot of beads a red cape There's obviously some specific thing that he is he is working towards Another photo just shows a bunch of tombstones and the shapes across us and he says these are some tombstones

I acquired and also for sale and then he had an giant pentagram with candles But this is like very this is very perfunctory. This is not even a pentagram. It's a Jewish star This this reminds me a little bit of us covering the early life of Joseph Smith Of course in our Mormonism series and thanks so much for such a wonderful Response everyone's been so sweet about that series because um, which I know meant a lot because this is one of those deep dive Mind-breaking series that that we've embarked on so the encouragement is wonderful But Joseph Smith doing the grave robbing It seems is he just like trying to sell this on etsy?

It does he think that you can just go steal stuff from graves and be like I flip it See what I do is I go to the grave and I flip it and I flip it People do it all the time still the the the fucking the ghoul market is is open And it is it is flourishing Especially because of people like us because we are like that we collect these odd bits So people like him technically he's a businessman up until molesting when you do the molest Then you shift from businessman to I guess technically if you have a billion dollars you become

Like more important. I don't know if you have less than a billion dollars you become a criminal Absolutely, but he is obviously the human remains, but he could have just dug it up from a fucking grave I get honestly he very much could have um this man A dangerous man who is without a doubt a risk To society probably needs to be behind bars Um, so anyway, that's just that little story You never know who the hell you're living next to not to fear not not to make you scared But i'm just gonna say have a barbecue

Just you know in check come out time once a month be like it's neighbor barbecue And if someone comes over you know dress what you're working on If you say what you're working on the guy's like i'm beginning on an an entire world Of necromancy and power and I'll show you what I'll show you some dirt Even if you need specific dirt I can get as much of it as it takes and you're like hot dog Do you eat meat? I actually don't remember if you eat meat or not and then noted Yes, okay, cool. So let's do hero of the week Oh

And the hero of this week, you know, it's so fun. It's so fun when it's an animal week quite frankly, um, I'm not gonna say that my feelings were hurt But I uh was tagged quite a bit in a photo that went viral from the Iowa State Fair Involving a large hog and the hog's name is Brutus He weighs about 1200 pounds And he was shown chugging a bud light lime at the Iowa State Fair You were tagged in this fucking picture So many times in a way that I can only the only way I can describe it is a is a victory

For the Zabrowski camp another victory The lies that you have spread and sewed into society is just unreal. This is how misinformation This is just a joke, but this is in reality how misinformation spreads. I don't drink bud light lime But now he did back on the day he did you did and you bragged about it I did not one day. We will find that audio and it will be it will be present I do not think so, but anyway, perfect. I watched you do it You are a liar He is 1200 pounds he slammed that bud light lime down and he was super cute. Well doing it

So good job Brutus. I'm not sure if he won or if he didn't win I'm not even really sure how a pig wins or loses a pig competition I'm not sure who goes to them But we were in Iowa at the same time and now I really regret not having one more day in Des Moines Where we could have just gone and been like, yeah Brutus Woo go boy go. It would be fun to buy him It would be fun to buy him and then all of a sudden you just have him around and then I mean honestly We would just eat him. Yeah, maybe at some point when he got too old although I do love piggies

I've said it before I'm not like cows. Okay chickens. Okay, but pigs they're friends with dogs And if I got a pig I don't I mean I would give up pork if I could and then you know what I do try But then I found out it's in everything I mean, I just like pork Yeah, so I don't eat it all time. You know what's always kind of disappointing honestly a pork chop at a restaurant It's always a little bit disappointing. And you know what a little underwhelming, you know what else? You know what else I don't like is pork jerky. It's not good for the jerk. Don't like pork jerky. You know what I do like Oh

Cured pork. I'll take any any second of the week I also like the way I make pork chops because I'll sometimes do it my own mom's way Oh, is that right? You get the country style ribs, right? And this is like like it's it is sort of gross, but it works You take a mixture of sweet and sour sauce with a mixture of either like You get some form of the Thai chili sauce that red chili sauce right or sriracha or something that you like you mix it in With sauerkraut. Whoa, you put the you mix it all together in with country style ribs And you bake that for at an hour

It's fucking an hour and a half for 20. Wow for 25. Oh Sweet and salty Well, there you go You've learned a lot of things on this on this episode that's going to shorten your life You learned how to play roulette and you learned how to make stick to your rib barbecue Which is There are certain recipes that my mom just had and I don't know where it came from but she did it with with the uh duck sauce Oh interesting actually. I've never heard that. Um, all right everyone. It's got that time. Yeah. Yeah. I

I suppose that I have some you want to I have some listener. Great. Let's do it. So number one Uh, so this comes from j. Okay. I've been working backwards through the episodes and at one point Henry had talked about the documentary a dangerous son I worked in a residential treatment facility for a few years working with adolescents with behavioral issues For the most part these kids had an imbalance that caused them to have little to no control over their impulses and emotions Or lived through a trauma that changed the way they interact with others But every now and then you'd come across one that was purely a psychopath I've seen some wild shit in my seven years at the facility

But one that sticks with me the most was an incident with a kid that I will call Jared Jared was violent and impulsive. He had no remorse and would attack people with no provocation He would at times break into fits of laughter that was followed by ramblings of his desire to kill people Set fire to animals or destroy the world around him One day Jared went off on one of his aggressive outbursts and began stabbing himself in the neck and chest with a broken piece of plastic I spent the remainder of the evening within arms reach of him several times having to fend off an attack Or place him into a seclusion room to prevent him from attacking other residents At one point near the end of my shift a sudden calm came over him and he began to describe to me an idea that he had

He wanted to kill a dog Cut off its legs and head Then he wanted to kill a person and remove their arms legs and head Then sew the dog's appendages onto the human's body. That's creative. I kind of yeah He's kind of creative. Okay After telling me about this Jared had no more outbursts for the evening and my shift ended with no further incident The next afternoon when I arrived for my shift Jared is no longer at the facility I was informed that during the morning while outside for recreation

He climbed over the fence and eloped from the facility I was later informed from the police when he was returned to us that he had made his way to a nearby highway and was hitchhiking He was picked up by an older woman Per her report once Jared got into her car. He did not speak a word to her He only sat in the passenger seat Turned towards her and stared at her while laughing to himself without looking away for several miles Oh my god, he would not answer any questions that she asked She eventually pulled into a gas station and said he she was going to get them some candy and called the police

Oh my god, that is Horrifying. Thank god that woman is still alive Oh, I mean that's scary. It seems like a human centipede type thing. It seems like, you know He's creative I guess if you were Tom Savini and you were putting together a horror film And if we lived in an alternate universe where you could create a man dog like that. I'm stealing this idea Yeah, I mean that's we can make a horror movie out of it, but Okay, well, I'm happy that he is where he is. Yes. Um, all right. I got this one coming in from H

This is entitled hail yourselves UFO sighting. They say ever since I saw in UFO when I was a child Uh, I've kept my eyes to the sky today. I was driving up to pick up my best friend from the airport Keeping myself alert because of how shitty Norfolk drivers can be All of a sudden I see something that can only be explained as a flying grain of rice Moving in a way that a plane or a jet would not move It was moving at a steady pace at a semi quick speed and didn't get any bigger as I drove closer Now since I'm currently in the u.s. Navy. I've seen and heard plenty of military aircraft And this UFO was not and there was no noise

I was overwhelmed by the feeling that this is not something that was man-made Unfortunately it disappeared over the trees because I could not get any other photo or any photo at all So what is this Henry this sort of flying grain of rice? It sort of reminds me of the Of the uh, the tic-tac UFO that was seen over the uss limits Which we also cover one of the videos of the same type of object that we cover on the live show And what was the name of that large what looked to be kind of an asteroid that that was going through That was going through earth. I forget. It's it's got a very very long name. Um, is it a new way way Something like that something like that. Yes, uh, it very interesting. I don't know

I feel like there are many types of these types of crafts and I don't know why There I actually got another one another set of videos that have some send if they had these videos I've seen multiple ones that were interesting, but they might be flares. Oh, but something that's solid It's all about if it I'm gonna say if it zigzags It's weird anything. It specifically moves in a way that planes do not move, right? It's very very important and in a way that flare a flare does not move No, do we have any more emails? I do this one's a little bit thicker But I love it because it comes from an actual microbiologist

This comes from p. Okay, we actually met I believe after a kansas city show like several years ago Which is very nice. I'm so glad that uh, she stayed in contact awesome Um, our military is known to research select agents both for the purpose of infecting populations and for countering such threats to our own population Typically biological weapons cause acute potentially fatal infection with a low dose of microbes that can be transmitted via aerosol A good example is coxiella burnetti, right a causative a causative agent of q fever They can cause infection with less than 10 microbes delivered via aerosol It can be debil- it can be debilitating, but it's usually not lethal the u.s. Government has investigated the weaponization of coxiella and many other infectious agents as bio weapons

A better example is bacillus anthritis aka anthrax q metal riffs This microbe form spores that spread quit widely and easily and causes severe acute disease that is debilitating and potentially lethal It has been used successfully in recent times in the infamous the infamous attack on our government in 2001 Lyme disease caused by borrella burgodorpha because it goes back to us talking about weaponized ticks, right, right, right Does not fit the profile of a typical biological weapon as it causes chronic symptoms that develop very slowly The early symptoms mostly consist of periodic joint pain and it can progress to more severe systems after To more severe symptoms after many years Thus in coldly logical terms, it is difficult to identify how b burgodorphy would be a useful biological weapon

I'm I'm absolutely slaughtering these latin names. I've no oh, they're extremely difficult No clue no clue it does hardly anything in the short term and it's not rapidly or easily transmitted So I was at first skeptical when I heard about these weaponized ticks However, our government has experimented with many things in the name of defense Not all of them are good ideas after a bit of light researching I found that the newbies claims that have been made by others namely michael caroll's account of weaponized ticks in lab 257 the disturbing story of the government's secret germ laboratory. It's totally it's totally feasible And it seems quite likely that borrelia was just one of the microbes being evaluated as a biological weapon

And during my training as a microbiologist We heard lots of stories of stunning missteps and lax practices and I got to experience one first hand Even with all the precautions and safety training. They're still horrific accidents The lab I joined at university of Chicago had quite a history One man died of plague and one student contracted a flesh-eating infection on her face I'd be happy to give more details on the story here if you guys are interested. We are absolutely interesting

These stories came back to the 70s and apparently she said, you know, remember that in the 70s people were still mouth pipetting urine back then Using piss using their mouth to fucking transfer piss to different tubes So a lot of mistakes were made And I have one last quick one. I have one last quick one. This is called how Ben Kissel ruined my sex life Oh, come on. This comes from R. I've been meaning to email you for a while a couple months ago My boyfriend and I were in bed watching tv like we usually do when I get off work Flipping between the travel channel and adult swim when things started getting pretty steamy After a while we heard the hard way why tv in the background is an awful terrible idea

I'm on top. My boyfriend's about to finish. He looks me dead in my eye and says not now Ben I'm utterly confused. So I turn around and it's Kissel on tv talking about aliens in area 51 Very excitedly Oh my god. Well, honestly between your pretty faces going to hell and the talking head alien show I understand we've probably ruined a lot of people's sex lives I'm just gonna say turn on turn turn it on to HBO where it's all sexy. Come watch Game of Thrones You know get in the mood Listen, you know, you gotta listen to Sade or Hordeshead

But Hordeshead is only if you're gonna cut each other while you're having sex All right, well, we try we try to do our best sometimes we save lives and sometimes we ruin sex You know, it happens Falker, I can see you going. Yeah Shoot it in her big boy. Yeah. Yeah. Is he talking about 17? All right, everyone Well, thank you all so much for listening. We cannot wait to see our european friends This tour is going to be so much fun. It's fucking way. I'm like fantasizing

I'm 13 days away from going into a Dublin pub getting my jamo getting that Guinness straight out of the heat Oh, my friend. We're gonna have ourselves a couple of beers. Oh, we are going to be my friend We're gonna get our asses kicked. We know we are going to be very polite very i'm not gonna, you know Hey, if we survive Glasgow, I think we can survive Dublin You just roll with it. Unfortunately what it means to survive Glasgow and to describe this place You just got to drink until you start making as much sense as they don't make to us That's you got to get on the same level All right, everyone. Thank you all so much for listening

Love love Love your life love your life like you just slipped into a pool full of Guinness Oh, that's how you feel the frothy top. The frothy top always get on top of your your tits there. Oh You got to live Yeah, live like you're about to get on a plane for seven hours of european You got to get a little pillow for your butthole. Yeah That's your story. Just make sure you listen to yourself and then Just laugh about how we're just a bunch of meat a bunch of bones inside of it jangling around and sometimes you get your penis sucked

Sometimes you get your your vagina Pleasureed. Mm-hmm. But other times you got to do it for yourself And I think that's important all the time to remember if you're not getting the pleasure you need you got to go get it So I'm alive. You're requesting people masturbate while laughing vigorously. Yes. Okay, wonderful Thank you all so much for listening and never forget to hail yourself Hail Satan Maghustalations Hail me

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