Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Dan Aykroyd

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

Ben 'n' Henry speak with Dan Aykroyd. Yes, that Dan Aykroyd. Of Nothing But Trouble & Ghostbusters fame. He shares his extensive knowledge of UFOs, his opinion on disclosure, his personal encounters with the paranormal, and so much more.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time on the left side stories Hey, what's up everyone how you doing Benjamin Grant kissle here with Henry Zabrowski in beautiful sunny, Los Angeles We didn't do our normal intro like it's a side stories, but you know what? It's not a normal side story It's not a normal side story is today special side stories Fresh off the presses I don't know what Yeah, it's something like that I Don't think it sounds like too mice having a small series of orgasm or G yeah, I could be

Um today. We are honored to have with us Dan acroyd. So this is the interview with Dan acroyd a interview. Oh my god 30 20 set 25 years in the making this motherfucker is The best he knows his shit. He we just give it a listen if we want you will all right Here it is the interview with Dan acroyd We are so honored to have our guest with us if we named his accolades that would be the entire interview So you know him you love him mr. Dan acroyd is with us. Thank you so much, man Gentlemen good to talk to you good to talk to you. So I wish I was in the room with you sir

I don't want to sound threatening, but I do wish that I could hug you I don't want to say I'm just glad we're separated. Well, we'd we'd we'd crack open a bottle of crystal head And I'd make you a nice long island railroad barcar martini and That would that would definitely get us off to the right on the right foot. Oh my god. Absolutely So, uh, we're gonna touch on a series of things you mentioned crystal head vodka unbelievable if you haven't had it Give it a try um, and we're gonna talk about aliens because you are King of kings right now when it comes to uh, the disclosure movement that's happening

But first we named our last tour the nothing but trouble tour This movie bonded marcus henry and myself for life. It is a brilliant film mixing horror macabre and comedy you have some of the most iconic you have two poc Shakur Digital underground john candy chevy chase demi more and of course yourself Um, what the hell was that like when you went into the studio because we've pitched some shows What was that like when you went into the studios and like so I have an idea for a film and they're like What is it and then you lay out the story for nothing but trouble. It was about 15 Like I would say a 15 minute pitch

Chevy went with me and the studio bought it. They loved it. We made the movie. I brought it under budget everybody had a great time And then when we opened the picture we opened against two massive Female demographic oriented pictures in the marketplace. We opened against silence of the lambs with jody foster And sleeping with the enemy with julie roberts julie roberts So every girlfriend wife sister niece and in the country was telling all their guys uncle Every every girl was telling their boyfriends. We got to go see You know silence of the lambs or sleeping with the enemy. So our audience basically was Completely absorbed by those two very strong female pictures

And and nobody saw the picture when it first came out But now I have young people, you know coming up to me all the time saying that uh, that that it's part of their Their cortisol now. It's part of their vernacular And uh, I of course, that's one of my favorite characters. Hey, I'm glad you like to judge you guys He comes to my territory and maybe we'll take good care of you. We'll have a party boy Well, my favorite scene the hot dog eating Oh my god is classic and it is wonderful and inspired me you come on by now We'll give you your full full share of dutch country hair for you get you'll get a full parcel

We'll still have a party for two weeks. You will I'll keep you there for two weeks. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, it'll be good I love it so much. What was uh, I mean that must have or Henry Do you have a question? I have a question because more so deeper into the pitch process and what it's like to come to I a a group of of nameless Faceless executives with a thing that you really love what's like your original piss for ghost smashers Where it sounds like it was an entire you had an entire world built There was a like a story bible ahead of it and when they received that document What was there was first response to show like because the because it was very different than the final film

it was um, but uh a lot of the Elements from the first movie were in the first draft of course stay popped all the equipment the You know, it was it was very much, uh, you know, we set up we set up that world I had it set a little in the future and I also kind of Some interdimensional stuff in there, but it wasn't as wild as people say it was I'd like to find that script by the way. No, we never we never gave that document We never gave that to the executives. What we did was we pitched the story to them They bought it on the basis of my involvement

Ivan rightman's herald ramus billy these were these were you know, we we were clicking on all 16 cylinders In our careers for comedy then and so they said these guys can't go wrong Let's hire them and then then we submitted the script and we basically had approval of the script uh Columbia coca-cola columbia at the time of they stayed out of it creatively They've trusted us and let us do what we wanted to do frank price was the executive there and he let us He let us alone, which was which was great I mean that is such a miracle in this industry to have carte blanche to the degree where you can just say This is our vision ghostmasters obviously became ghostbusters. I'm sure our audience put that together

But my god, that is just a testament to the comedic genius of you and your friends Um, which is remarkable the fact that they trusted you to put this out together Exactly exactly. They were geniuses, you know herald animal house caddy shack billy caddy shack stripes Ivan the director of of the stripes movie and It was just uh, you know, uh Kind of a great confluence of all our all of all our gifts and now it's the 35th anniversary of the thing And they're making and they're making another uh movie jason rightman. Ivan's son wrote a wrote a film that is really touching really heartfelt scary exciting

And uh, so we we start that this summer. You also got to sort of trojan horse your actual belief in the paranormal Into a popular culture at that time now The time did people know like when you go and that you had this entire background of already being invested in paranormal studies Well, what people did not know no one knew what ectoplasma is anybody in the paranormal research knew But after our movie came out now You know a couple of billion people know what ectoplasma is Oh, yeah, solely due to our movie really and then now if you look at all of the confluence of stuff that's on television now every County has a ghost hunting society travel and entertainment. They do excellent shows about haunted places. I I love their series

Um, all of all of that I think comes from ghostbusters and people Researching and going on there really is a real world of research here. I don't think that people knew about my background Yeah, but I did go on the Johnny Carson show with a spirit photo of my great-grandfather the original Ghostbuster and and and showed the world that but I think that was before we'd made the movie Right, we've got you know, we've got a lot of research there to back back it up American society for psychical research the The work that was being done at edinburgh university now even now there's a paranormal course you can take there But now I love it people didn't know what ectoplasm was before the movie came out now Everybody knows what it is. Absolutely changing culture changing people's minds and opening up their perspective

Which is what you have done your entire career just lastly and then we'll get into the paranormal the aliens Just lastly going back to nothing but trouble you work. John candy is a is an idol of mine I've loved him ever since I was a child chris farley. John candy um What was that like working with with your friends in that capacity chevy chase and John candy were great friends and colleagues of mine And they saw this vision this original vision that I'd written and they invested in it and they said dan You know, we support you. There's some great funny stuff in here We'll make we'll we'll make this happen

We'll we'll join you in this because we have faith in you and your vision And so I had complete support for my actors candy and I go back to second city when we joined second city He was a clean ex salesman and I was a mailman And so we go back that far and then chevy and I go back to SNL and spies like us. So it was uh, right You know, it was a great. Uh, well, I made spies. I guess. Yeah, I was uh before that And so we trusted each other and you know, we were just like brothers It was it was a wonderful experience and I really put them through that I made candy squeeze into a wedding dress And chevy I put him through stunts and he complained every minute of it, but

Uh, but his performance is solid and so is to me more and she was great. Oh, she's so good She was great and she's a kind of a filmmaker herself Of course, she's a filmmaker as an actress right and she did great She gave me great suggestions and and ideas for shots and inserts and do this here You should do it so she really brought her knowledge of film to the to a night took her suggestions She was smart real smart So that is that is just one of the best films of all time. We are just so excited to talk about it I'm gonna say it. It brought us all together. Honestly. All right. I mean, all right now

I'm chomping at the bit. I want to ask you straight up Dan Now that there is what we have been calling a lot on side stories soft disclosure happening in the world of ufology Where it seems to be they are slowly leaking out real footage for straight from the pentagon with the help of I guess Tom DeLong's new company to the stars academy How do you how are you feeling about like what's happening right now? Are we do you think we're getting the straight shit from the pentagon or is this a new Like a new cloud cover like are we in a is this disclosure that's happening right now or is this a new game that they're playing

Well, ralph lumenfall is a very credible reporter at the new york times and he and haleen cooper who wrote the book about UFOs pilots generals and law enforcement come forth with their stories. They she wrote a great book about You know credible credited credentialed people who see these things and who've had witnessed who have witnessed them Their their work is amazing. They had an article I think it was two weeks ago in the main section of the new york times for read zikariah Just showed the an avf 16 f18 footage on cnn And on the cover of this week the the magazine There's a cartoon of aliens waving at an f18 pilot and it says taking ufo seriously

So we are we are in the first stages of what dr. Bassett and dr. Greer would would Would say is the you know the last tick off to midnight where disclosure becomes Full now the air force that there's a great series that bob zamakas and jack rapkey produced over there at His I think it's history channel of the blue book the project blue book. I'm sure you guys were watching a lot Yes, yeah, and hynek, you know, he goes i'm gonna lie about this I'm gonna say it swamp gas and birds and seagulls why because if we they'll take our funding away if we save the other stuff Let's keep giving them these explanations So that we have jobs and we can really find out what's going on here

And that's why for a long time hynek denied it So and and the people who were investigating it denied it But they're incredible the government has had an interest in this going way Way back so and they they've had project signed project grudge project blue book You had the ruffled report. You had the twinning letter somehow got out there So you've had a you've had an interest in governments and you had an interest in the united from the united states air force for this stuff But now there's they're trying to they're finally getting closer to really admitting that

these are craft that have performances Um, which humankind at this point cannot manufacture Well, Dan, I just have a question as far as the timing because it does seem like now the navy has put in new Um rules regarding how you can get UFO sightings up a chain of command You're not just chastised and kicked out of the military. Like you're some sort of loony tune Why do you think we're seeing such a?

unbelievable robust amount of information coming out Uh about UFOs right now. Is there anything in your opinion as far as where we are as a culture or a country as a world? Are we ready for this? Oh, I think we've been ready for it for a long time I think the public is is is uh accepting it I would say half at least more than half the people believe that their These craft are operated by a non-human intelligences Um, janap 146 though the joint army and navy publication from the 1940s specifically says

You know, you must report these things not to the public But you be sure to report them to your superiors So for a long time pilots have been alerted Uh to to report these things and I I I believe that the there's public pressure now more people have cell phones and cameras More people are calling in when they're sightings to air force bases and police stations And so you've got a tremendous public pressure to to find out what's going on every president who comes into office One of the first questions they asked according to bill clinton Uh, what is you know, tell me tell us what's going on here. Is there really something happening? And of course

No, they don't tell the president. No, well, there's nothing there. No, no, don't no I think it's because presidents are like performers like we are and they're blabber mouths and the fbi It's like don't tell them But some president and maybe it's going to be trump It's going to have to deal with the issue publicly and say, you know, we had an event that happened Here's the footage of it, you know, 7 000 people saw it and um, you know They're gonna have to deal with it like the voronezh incident in russia

They had two different ships come down two different creatures 700 people saw it the russian government launched an investigation and this was in the 19 1978 so I think the future I think what we might see is one of these species and lord hill norton The air force defense, uh, uh, you know Attache sec secretary he was in the british cabinet He said there's 23 different types of ships that he knows of that he's seen and heard uh spoken of in his research and Briefing papers at the 23 different species. So one of these species I don't think all of them on a relationship with us and they well should not because we're poison

We're terrible. Look at us. Look what we do to each other We're we're a murderous bunch. We really are we are a group of vengeful apes Really really awful human kindness is not, you know, there are some redeeming Uh, there's some redeeming elements like keith richards, maybe but the rest of it's uh, you know Okay, and anybody can line up behind him, but uh, but the rest of it is just uh, you know, so why would these species want to come down here? Where we are ruining our planet. We're killing each other But I think one of the species may want to make the bridge and what you could see Is official contact made

The government deciding everybody is going to find out they've got to see it and a very public landing will take place Hopefully where one of these ships will come down in a baseball diamond in a big city And we'll be there to welcome them not like day of the earth stood still where we fired at them But welcome them with music with food with a festival with dance with A telepathic a body of telepathically trained Defense workers who can understand and feel what they're feeling and also transmitted them The love that we are capable of on this planet. Absolutely. That's a concert. I would love to go to that You there's several concepts in there that I think are really really interesting because I know that paul hellier

Uh has come out and he said that he has received actual contact. He said he's spoken with Actual entities that said to straight up like you doing a good job, which is I'm I'm desperate for validation I wish they would do that for me, but I Yeah, he's well. He's a very credible witness. He's a minister. He was minister of defense Uh, when my dad was working for the first truto and my dad was a privy counsel officer in that government It was a colleague beside paul paul hellier and worked at the canadian And a transportation development agency and so paul's very very credible. I hadn't heard that he That he had uh had contact. I'll have to have to follow up on that

We lost a great man, of course just recently statin freedman. Yes, the beautiful beautiful So toast of zero added of crystal head vodka to statin freedman. What a wonderful warm humorous intelligent You know just one of the great people in the field and a great guy too And boy, he was able to hold his ground when in a in a lecture, man He he just slapped those skeptics down with the facts We spoke to him not too long ago, which is very sad We could but he talked to us he was essentially being like i'm just about to retire And when we were really we were

Excited for him, but then I was like, I don't know if ufologists actually ever get to retire No, and I don't think that he fully did because I believe he passed in an airport, right? He's on his way either to or from a lecture, but what a what a great guy. I love him great very dearly Yeah, and then bud hopkins what we lost a couple of years ago a few years ago the you know, of course the Great abduction researcher and john mack was killed in a very mysterious accident John mack wrote the greatest book about abduction. You know, he was the harvard psychiatrist Who uh who had to look into this because so many people were reporting these events in a very credible way He wrote two books abduction and then uh transformation

He stepped off a curb in england and a drunk driver eclipped him and killed him And that day in england three other john mack's were killed in traffic accidents Really? That is trippy Well, maybe this is we can bridge this back because dan you also believe that you were approached by People you called men in black when you were filming your interview series for sci-fi I wasn't approached what happened was we were interviewing basset and greer that day And this was our disclosure episode and we'd done big foot and other things and

And uh, joy and george saku less there who's the chariots of the gods the alien guy love him We'd done all of those and then I had just interviewed uh, bass Greer and I believe I was about to interview basset And my phone rang I went out for a cigarette actually and my phone rang and it was britney spears of all people calling me to say Would you come and help me would you come and help me work on snl? This is why this is just a tabloid worthy story Because i'm on the phone with britney spears as this happens Anyway, all right, I take a drag of the cigarette. I I change hands to put the phone. I say, oh sure

britney, I'd love to help and I turn I look down 42nd street on the other side of the street is a Black crown vic With two guys really tall guys standing there now they weren't in black. They were wearing like denim shirts and denim Pants and they were really tall with black hair and they were looking right at me and I try of course. I'm looking for the plate I'm going one. You know, I'm not an idiot. I look and I you know, that's that's a police car What I look and I I can't see the plate. It's almost like it's pixelated. It was right across the street So then I turn back to say well britney wendia and I go turn back again within a second I look back and that

Image of those two guys in that car was gone. They didn't go past me. They didn't make a u-turn They were gone. I go back inside after agreeing to do SNL and Really weird about to tell bob wise my producer what just happened and he comes up to me and says our show's been cancelled And they want us out of here within the next 45 minutes. We're not going to review doctor We're not going to interview basset. Um, we're uh, we're done And that was it. Oh No explanation at all. Just just cancelled nothing just done done and then they buried, you know, they buried it And I I have some of them. I think I own some of them, but they just

Uh, that was it pull the plug on It does seem to be that they between because I'm very interested in the concept of the the psychic side of the story When we because we did a three episode series on men in black On our on our show and a part of when we were going through it It's like I love the the haunting ideas of connecting these men in black to the ufo phenomenon to folklore And these trickster entities that men in black are sort of these these kind of bridges between what we used to call fairies and trolls and goblins and the hidden people and they're now in our lexicon These are other various species of aliens and do you do you caught into any of that?

The idea of like psychic links or kind of like jock valet when he talks about how the The phenomenon may be almost 50% psychic like we are we bring them about we make them come here almost we help them materialize Well, there's a lot in what you've uh, what you've just said that let me hit a couple of points So I believe that a lot of the black men in black and their technology are just basically straight up military my lab military lab Investigators, I believe some of them are alien and come here because basically they can change into anything They can change into a rabbit if they want to and hop around in your living room, you know

Any size I mean so they can boom morph or they can change into everything they can cloak themselves I swear that I saw a ford crown vic and two guys vanished within a second So I they've got a like to talk technology. I believe that that's happening the attractiveness of the planet earth Is is is is um is is indisputable. It's the most beautiful Sphere in the multiverse. No, where else do you get lakes and rivers and trees and mountains and Cities and culture and it's very attractive and most of these species are coming here as tourists And that's it straight up and simple cruising through to take a look the sport model that's being seen now It looks like a stingray. It's about the size of an automobile. It's completely gray. It has a stinger at the back

And uh, completely opaque, of course, there's no windows in it, but it's being seen more frequently You can see that it's for two people for two occupants And you can just imagine it being parked in a garage and it's near a planet near zeta reticula And and a couple deciding to go out on a friday night cruise and zipping over there Well, you know watch Manhattan for a few minutes and that's not ominous. That's kind of wonderful Um, but uh fairies trolls men in black definitely folklore figures Uh now very very strong ones, but always linked Seemingly linked to interviews with the uh with the people who are witnesses and sometimes warnings are given and sometimes

They just walk away and don't do anything So I think it's a it's a mix that's so interesting with the tourist idea And of course we always have in this country for the longest time the idea of an alien invasion Going way back to war of the world the radio play that people were like, I think this is serious and there were riots in the streets Um, it'll come quietly. It'll come you think so with hybridization, which is already happening I think you know, they've there's some crossbreeding that's been going on for the last couple of hundred years and And hopefully uh, they will bring the best uh of human qualities to the fore More mindfulness more thoughtfulness and the and as to the psychic element of all of this

The theory is now on many of the these craft that are being controlled that they that they're being controlled they're being controlled mentally That the operator merely thinks where he wants to go or he she wants to go or it wants to go And the ships respond with navigation uh power Uh gravity bending uh photon control all of that they do that from the mind of the operator Um, which uh, I you know you talk about yourself driving car That's what we need never mind ai. Let me get in the car and I won't touch anything and just let my part of my mind drive it While the other half does the does the accounting, you know

Well, I thought you you made a good point And uh, uh unplugged in ufo's when you say that because I know that there's obviously there's a lot of talk about whether or not There is reverse engineer technology from craft ufo's from ufo crafts That the government is sort of slowly leaking to the private sector But basically he said that maybe the reason why it's not fully being broadcast and fully being shown Is because we we can already overwhelm most other armed forces with just our normal technology And they don't need to play the card of Here's us turning into a turning a physical craft into a liquid

Here's a thing that can turn on a 90 degree angle because it would be too much at once Well, you know, I mean the government would love to get their hands on this technology and maybe they already have but haven't mass-produced mass-produced what? The black triangles are interesting, you know, because they look like they could be Earthly manufactured, but their performance says another thing sam aranto The researcher out of illinois talks about the tinley park cases where they these things would park over The neighborhood for a few minutes and people having barbecues would look up and see these things hovering above them slow moving No sound and then well, they would just vanish, you know, so

I don't know. Maybe that is Uh, an earthly military body that's creating them, but I don't I doubt it somehow. I doubt it. I think When you have performance like that capability like that We we know about it, you know, they're they're they're they're just they're busting their asses trying to get this f-35 to work, you know, so Absolutely, we just watch them, uh, uh, we ground all those bowing planes. They could figure if they can't figure out those planes How are we going to figure out gigantic Silent pyramid structures flying through the sky. It's figured out. I mean, I think we know how it works. They've got some kind of Um, you know, no fish infusion cold fusion something like that. That's producing power

They're they're bending light. They're turning as you say mob material into light and they're They're doing it just with technologies that they've been able to develop Using resources wherever they're coming from and that given give us a million years. I mean, maybe we're there But I think it's a million sounds like it's a million years in advance. Maybe not yet Maybe it's only 10,000 because look where we've come in 150 years We've come from the Wright brothers taking off at Kitty Hawk. Yeah to uh to the these seven eight seven dreamliner Which by the way, I do like and fly all the time Dan I'm interested to hear because we were on a flight because we fly all the time not to not the dreamliner

But we do a thing called delta. Yeah, it's pretty nice. It's pretty nice what they did the other day They get remember when the the school kids trip was cancelled Because of a flight and cancel some operations equipment problem at delta They laid on a whole plane load for the kids to take them to to dc for their school trip The kind of corporate heart that we need in the world And that's what's going to save the planet by the way, we'll get back to flying in a minute I will talk aviation in a minute, but if you stopped if you fly from Boston to London, it's that's you're you're going to eat up three square miles of ice cap in greenland

That's gonna that flight that ticket will cost that if we stopped flying tomorrow If we stopped eating meat tomorrow, we stopped driving cars tomorrow We are still not going to solve and reverse planet A climatological change until corporations and governments get 100 percent behind this and invest their money Their time their resources their focus And their energy and their hearts into it. They have to get fully behind it if they don't We have 12 years left before and if you're a real estate mogul in Florida You better be interested in this you better start putting resources in because half your properties are going to be underwater

Aviation you want it to make a point there? I've I love it. Well, no, I've flown in many great planes. I've basketballed a dc-10 simulator down the runway. I've been in an f5 fighter plane I've been in a b25. I've done a barrel roll in a lear 24 over mount saint helens You know a few weeks after it exploded. I do love it. I don't really enjoy loving. I don't love flying I don't enjoy but I like right and and the technology of it and the culture of it Fantastic. No, because I pretty much blame I blame air travel on the hemorrhoids. I've received and I'll never forgive them I'll never forgive you. I cannot tell you how many friends of mine have hemorrhoids. It is ridiculous What is going on in our mid 30s bodies? You got to make friends with the steward of the stewardess and go and hang with them

In the back where you can stand up. They'll plow you with nuts and beer all afternoon They love to talk because they have nothing to do in between meals. Exactly. That's actually where I was going with that question We were on a delta flight and this stewardess named jewel She turned out to be she was an older woman maybe 65 70 years old and she turned out to be a listener but she came up to Marcus and I and she said that she had actually encountered a humanoid on the plane She said that you could see his eyes even when his eyes were closed. She also said she saw multiple UFOs in the sky She was really

adamant and and completely Trustworthy, I mean and so I just my question is are some people more Available are some people more Aware or more awakened To see these UFOs and in humanoids and and all these sort of Paranormal things because it is such a psychic event. It seems I think it's I think that that that it's more of they seem to These entities seem to contact. Why aren't they contacting like the minister of defense or the president or high government entities?

No, they go after ordinary innocent people And I think the innocence is part of it because this innocent being will accept what we're trying to do here betty and barney hill These were two, you know Just a couple Driving home on vacation and they were chosen for one of the greatest encounters in history Because you had a credible witness who was conscious and awake for most of it But then the betty was you see and then john max book all the people that were there I went to the fifth avenue medical a society

Building in new york city for a lecture with john mac with my wife a few years ago And I was with a couple of friends who were abductees and there were about 300 There were 500 people there and he asked how many abductees and 300 of them put their hands up And they were from all different parts of life This one woman said I was this wealthy Massachusetts socialite all I wanted to care about was neiman marcus and shopping and the next rolls royce And then one afternoon I was sitting by my pool And a little orb came down and a creature came out and he spoke with me for half an hour

And told me I could change this planet And she's one of the leading environmental Resource people in the world right now There was a guy there with one arm And he said I was in a sailboat And he said he's a it was a stock trader I don't know if he lost I don't think he lost the arm in the encounter But he said I was in my sailboat in long island and this blue orb came down and these beings visited me

And it was the most beautiful evening I've ever had and I'm waiting every night of my life I'm waiting for them to come back and I got up and I said of all of you here that have been taken Who wants to go again? Who would love to be taken again? Who would like to have that encounter again? Only half only half of them put their hands up then half of them. It was not a pleasant experience I want to talk with you about that too because you could you are personally very close with uh, dr. Greer And his but are you I'll ask you that do you know you guys know each other you guys hang out? No, not really. I'm a fan and I wanted him on my show and I've I've always talked him up. His work is great Um, yeah, I'm a big fan of his work. I've met him a couple of times. Yeah, but in the world of ufology

There seems to be like now obvious because there's constant in fighting, right? There's a lot of drama in the world of ufology and it seems to be one of the main fights Especially against somebody like dr. Stephen Greer is this concept of he is like the aliens are here to help us This is going they are they are here to help us and there's a lot of people saying that's disinformation saying that What if this is all some other lie? What if they're prepping us and it'll be like independence day and we're here Waiting and we do throw the big party at the baseball stadium and they come and we're dancing and we're showing them like Guy Fieri He's like barbecue in form. Oh, I like it. They just explode the baseball stadium like what happens and that goes down

Well, that's childhood zen. That's Arthur clock's book Childhood childhood zen a wonderful story. They come down. They look like devils with leather wings But they're benevolent and it turns out, you know, they want to harvest us and eat us I believe I believe that that I believe there's some that are benevolent and really do Want to find out more about us more about themselves Want gentle interaction? And then there are just some straight up meanies who are Taking people away and not returning them and

And doing you know and dropping them and from great heights Um, Todd sees, you know, Todd sees, you know that case. No, I don't know that that case Uh, oh, well, you better to look it up. The sheriffs won't even talk about it He he was picked up in front of his friends and then really rudely dropped into a tree and his body was so mangled Wow Christ That there you go. Todd sees so that's a bad one that yeah That's not the way we want to be treated and that's not the way we treat them either

Do you believe in David Ike's storyline? Like do you believe in any of that the idea of the reptilians and the grays and all these people are kind of in a fight over our Earth that our earth is sort of like a coveted piece of territory that we're kind of in the middle of a fight of four I think they're on the right path. There's one theorist who says that really that the The asasani or the beautiful Nordic types that are you know, uh benevolent and they've Actually, the reptilians and the Nordic types have had a meeting and the Nordic types have said

You go down there and you harvest the earth people like cattle. We're going to fight you. We have technology You have got technology We may both die in this but we're not going to let you go down and rape the planet earth Because uh, you uh, you you know, you think that uh, that there's delicacies there to be had No, no, we'll fight you. So that's an interesting theory there that they you know, both sides It's a stalemate the reptilians know that they can't win to get the Nordic types The Sasani and the Sasani know they can't win against the reptilians, but both are willing to kind of have a standoff and and

But the reptilians have cheated on the arrangement. They're coming here and they're grabbing us all the time. That's that's that's the theory now You know, for me, I'm a writer. Okay. I'm a screenwriter and I'm an entertainer All of this is supremely entertaining. Yes. Yes. That's the primary reason I'm into it is it's because so So entertaining it's so neat whether any of it is really true or real or not I I believe the objects are real and I believe they're not manufactured here I've seen four of them that I believe were not Earth earthly, uh, man of earthly manufacture

I don't know what's I don't know what's real. I don't know what's real and I don't know what's not real But I know it's supremely entertaining. I was in Martha's vineyard with my wife Uh, and two friends and I stepped out for a leak at three in the morning on the on the balcony of my house in chillmark And I looked up in the sky and I saw two glowing discs, you know Traveling from the from the far right horizon Uh, and then rising and doing a fast zigzag pattern across the sky I immediately called everybody we all came out and watched them and they were flying echelon formation wing to wing They were doing at least 20,000 miles an hour. They were probably about 100,000 feet up because the concord makes a

A right turn above Martha's vineyard at 47,000 feet The planes turn there and of course I can see that but the naked eye I knew approximate height 100,000 feet up speed when you go from horizon to horizon that fast as fast as they did In about a minute and a half, you know, they're going pretty fast. So that was the first one Um, second one, uh, I was at my farm in Canada and I have my police bike out for a ride and I was going into town and I saw this little red dot Going across the power lines the big hydro lines at the next farm over and I thought well That's a helicopter, you know, they they do service the lines. They check them to make sure they've been blown down

But I'm thinking they usually don't do that work at night So I watch the thing and it comes and it just stops and then makes a right angle turn right for me So I turn on the wigwags on my police bike, you know, the takedown lights that I have Turn them on and my brights and this thing comes right over me and it stops about 700 feet up No sound but my mind it has to explain it. It's a helicopter. It's a helicopter. My mind keeps going It's a helicopter. It's a helicopter Then it shines a light on me and then I think I see is it now they're two people there are their frames

Is there a boom? Is there a rotor? It's just it's got to be a helicopter and then it just switches the light off and then just coasted right all over me Across the next field sideways Silently with the little blinking red light Now that was not a helicopter. I couldn't hear it. You can hear a helicopter at 3 000 feet up, right? Of course, and then the eeriest one. This is a cool one. I was in montreal Um at the queen elizabeth hotel and we were selling patron tequila and newfoundland made zero additive crystal head vodka

And we were selling we were on a tour We just won a bunch of awards for the vodka and that for the clean taste and we were celebrating that we were sitting in the hotel room I was with a friend and We were actually watching the spiders at the 23rd floor of the hotel go up and down They had these little webs going up and down. You see like and they were just like rio-yos. It was really funny They were going up and down there about 10 of them on the 23rd floor of the building We thought we were that's what we were watching and then we look out right and we see out Right into st. Catherine street at that level. I see what can only be described as

a huge air mattress 150 feet long 50 feet wide with these big bulbs underneath it gray Square moving slowly no sound no lights. It was a gray overcast day Just kind of almost blending in and I'm thinking where are the strings? Where are the strings? It's a balloon. It's a parade There were no parades on st. Catherine's Street that day in montreal and we watched this thing and it stopped right outside our window about 30 feet outside off our window And it was huge huge big gray square thing with bulbs And then it just turned and just drifted out over the st. Lawrence river

We ran out into the hall and watched it go in the hall window. We were what that? What's that? You know, it was just wonderful. I was wondering to have another person there and go What is that? You know what's that? She goes, you know, right? Honestly, how do you go back to normal? This is why I've never seen one. I've always but like I started I wanted to start working for moof on I started I got their training manual They're talking about like watching the skies more and I do seriously sit and I watch the skies I mean, obviously a little bit of an herbal supplement helps me

Do a really dial in that's what yeah, that's what they need Absolutely, but it's how do you go back to just like like because back to show business That's the problem. How do you go back to auditioning and making work when you're just being like But what about our our skies are filled with things we can't explain Well, I've had some experience before with my other two sightings and also I've been working, you know over the years Just doing my own research and having the relationship with Mufon as their sort of erstwhile quote unquote Hollywood consultant in other words if you're doing a film or a television show about a certain aspect of it

I can connect you with Mufon and the right organizations for your research. I I kind of To me it wasn't surprising and I'd heard about You know ships that move slowly and we just we were just really excited What's nice now is that the navy pilots can come forward people in the military can come forward. They can talk about it and not be And not be chastised for it. And that's that's really important. That's a big step to to the full disclosure Absolutely. Thank you so much for being on the show. Just like one or two more questions. I really would love Wouldn't you love wouldn't you love to smoke a greeny with a gray? Oh my god

Hogs legs Oh, I hope they're all like Seth Rogen. Oh, yeah, dude. I hope so. I'm interested to hear when you first really got into aliens Uh, ufology Ufology, thank you kiss all these sorts. I know I know Um, was what was the reaction initially from your friends? Uh, were they like yo bro? You're off You've gone a little too wonky for us or were they willing to listen? And if it is the latter how have you seen that sort of Change now as the acceptance seems to grow

Well, my mother saw one in 1947 and she and and and and boy talk about a credible witness She was the executive secretary For hurricane aircraft fuselage production With the ministry of supply and services for the canadian ministry of defense in world war two So she could read an airplane chart from the bottom and know the difference between A line caster and a b17 or a spitfire and a meserschmitt. This was the training She had to go through because she worked for the aircraft fuselage production So she was walking down spark street in ottawa in 1947

She looked up and she saw she said it looked like a christmas tree bulb like an orb Was glowing red and green and white and as if someone was hanging a huge Christmas tree orb in the air above spark street And she said it was big and it was winking and then it just took right off And every and after that she always had stuff around the house about it She had the look magazine cover with elizabeth taylor on it Which had the story of barney and betty hill in it She had the cover with maryland munro on it of life magazine that talked about flying saucers

So she had this interest All was that she kind of you know and and you know when when anything would come up in 1952 the year I was born Although I never asked her about it. I I I'm sure she tracked what was going on in washington dc And all over the u.s. Then that was the biggest year for sightings We've had in decades 1952 So she was aware of it and and you know so many people I would Friends I would talk to relatives I would talk to People um, you know people at school a lot of them would say you know my dad saw one or my mom saw one or I

Saw one or I saw something So I think if you canvassed around if you took five people And they went out five people you're you're gonna you're gonna go and get a get a sighting report So you think maybe the mockery has been more of a marketing Decision if you actually go and talk to people face to face. They're like, yeah, dude Same here. My uncle saw something. I saw something whatever has it just been sort of fed into our narrative as a country that you better think of these people as you know quacks as opposed to reasonable folks In some quarters that's been a largely oh well in some quarters, of course in the skeptical quarters and in some quarters

There's people who are never going to believe and it and even if one shook their hand, they wouldn't believe it They think it was a a special effect or a mass hallucination Well, it does seem to be wasn't that their goal the the goal of hiding ufo disclosure The idea of do it was to originally too ridicule that would seem to be a government mandate To say that we will discredit these people so that no one can even if you come forward essentially it ruins your life They did that and they did that because of the brookings institution report of 1958 and other psychological studies that said Postulated that if you told people about such a higher power There would be no longer a respect for the authorities that are established out there

The local cop on the beat exactly. I'm gonna listen to what you say I want to talk to that great guy the president right the soldier the national guardsman the ambulance driver that no way Wait, hold on. No, I want to know no you're yeah step aside. I want to talk to who landed in my backyard Silo free got out Turned my tree black, you know open big black eyes spoke to me in language I didn't understand and then took off faster than an f16 ever ever did from my swimming pool. That's who I want to talk to Not you Not authority nothing not the priest

You know not of course the president the soldier. No Let me talk to the alien and if you have 300 million americans saying let me talk to the alien. You're in trouble. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much, man We really appreciate you taking so much time to talk to us. It is fun And now look this week magazine june 14th a cartoon on the cover there Ralph Blumenthal and helene cooper working at the new york times to really treat this seriously Um for reads the karya last week on on on his uh on his show showing this footage So, you know credible reporters are going to step forward

And I hope the day in the baseball diamond comes and then it turns out to be benevolent. I really do I do too, man. I otherwise it's it's cloverfield place head to the bunker. Yeah, dude And honestly, that's why my wife and I are really interested in getting a bunker Um, just I mean honestly just for stylistic. We like being underground Um, and I think that it would it would be fun, but also it'd be practical setting aside any kind of intervention on this planet from Alien forces. What is in the air today? I mean, I hope you put good filters on it But who knows what's going to fall out of the air when chernobyl blew up

Two years later the state of oregon sued the ukrainian government because cows were dying in oregon from the same Uh isotopic signature of radiation that blew up out of chernobyl. I mean, who knows what's going to fall from the sky You know, absolutely. Yeah, I'm gonna get a container From a container ship those boxes and you bury them. They they're great. Can't wait. Absolutely Honestly, but we'll try to make it nice the goal is for us Oh, you have to make it nice. You have to make a vacation spot and you should have on the bar lit up A bottle of crystal head and zero added of vodka. We won the prodexpo model Uh, metal the metal in uh

In in moscow, we won we won a medal in russia and they know about vodka. You won the I didn't know you won an award from in moscow from vodka. You you that's crazy excellent taste out of 400 beverages It's so clean. It makes a great martini Makes a great tangerine screwdriver. There's no additives in it bar chefs love it because there's no terpenes. No Uh synthetic lipids look like glycerin glycerin glycerin No sugars cleanest vodka on the planet and that's what you should have in your bunker. Absolutely all that i'm drinking from now on All right, sir gentlemen. Take care All right, there it was our interview with dan acroyd. Let me just say that was beyond a dream come true. That was like

We really were before this show. Hey, we and i were like, um, so like should we ask him like, um, like what's it like to be Like what's your shit, dude? What's your shoes? Honestly, thank you so much dan acroyd. Thank you to his publicists for setting all of that up Um, that was just incredible and I gotta say that man He was anyway. I'm just over the moon. I just met all of our legends and the man who is a legend of ours And he's and he remained so what I love is that he's still so Plugged in he knows exactly what he's talking about. He's been doing all the modern reading This is the kind of ufologist that we need to look up to dan acroyd is a hero for the entire

Field you go out there not only do I mean, you know, we didn't even get to ask him about soul man We didn't even get to ask him. We didn't even get to ask him about tommy boy Tom we get to any of it. We get to any of it, but I did it. It doesn't matter because he actually knows the truth I think it's very interesting. I mean, that's the problem There's a lot when I listen to him talk the more and more it's being like well Maybe these nuts and bolts ufo's guys got fucking something to talk about because you obviously know you know Because you're doing the reading and you're talking to these guys 23 species of aliens

I love it. Well, that was just that was incredible. Thank you all so much for listening to this special side stories and Yeah, I mean, I don't know It's nice when you meet people that have been in your life forever Unbeknownst to them and they turn out to be as wonderful as dan acroyd just was with us And honestly, we've had great experiences with uh with the vast vast vast majority of the people we vitalize So that just goes to show you being a good person. You can also be very successful And I think dan acroyd showed what a great guy he was. Absolutely. What a legend. Absolutely. Um, all right everyone

Well, thank you so much for listening. I'm gonna do what we want to do I think we have to tell them to triple we have to do it Yeah, you got to live your life like you're about to speak to dan acroyd and have that have that excitement inside of you at all times, right? You got to love your life like you're about to speak to dan acroyd And he's gonna he's gonna affirm that you're not the only other man of the same body That is interested in the same things and you can still because his wife's beautiful. I'm sure of course We did the same thing. I'm living the same dream trying to look the same dream and you got to laugh

Like uh, like your haemorrhoids finally Burbs or beckon. Oh, that would be because I'm out. I'm back. I'm back in the public sector It would be very bizarre if you were just strangely maniacally laughing on the street And they're like, what's so funny? And then you're like my hemorrhoids are back in I think that's the side that you may no longer have a home. No, no, you get a high five. I'd high five I mean, I wear a rubber glove and wear something to protect myself. But yeah, I'd high five him All right. All right. Okay, everyone hail yourselves My goose delicious

Help me Help me And a special hail acroyd. We hope he is around for a long long time to come This show is made possible by listeners like you Thanks to our ad sponsors You can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listened to go to last podcast network.com