Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Do Attend

Episode Date: February 21, 2019

Ben 'n' Henry break the down the week's true crime stories: Lorena Bobbitt is back, Michelle Carter goes to prison, and MORE. TRIPLE L.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last time. On the left. Side stories. That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Man, it's good to have something to live for. Absolutely. You have to have something to live for. You need to. You gotta have a drive. So, recently, what happened to me is that in the parking lot of where the office is, the studio is here, my car got sideswiped. Sure. Well, who doesn't? You know what, Henry? Your car was kissed by another car, maybe a Mazda Miata. Maybe it was a sexy, beautiful car, came by, said, I love that Prius, and gave you a little kiss. The last time I got kissed where that kiss was worth $1,500, I

married the woman. And I love her. But the problem is that they hit the car, right? So, they need to leave a note. No. They fucked up the whole bumper. And now, bumpers all fill with technology, right? Uh-huh. So, you go and it turns out to be exorbitantly expensive because they have all these safety monitors on the sides that they have to fix all these sensors, and they can just say it's broken. You don't want to do, you know, there's no proof, because I don't know. Well, it's definitely broken. Because I'm not a fucking car man. Well, it's broken. I'm not Tim Allen. No, I mean, I don't even think Tim Allen could be a car man today. You gotta have your degree. You gotta have an IT degree to be a car man

these days. I remember when we used to call them, uh, they were like grease hogs, and they were always like, I can turn that and screw. And now it's like. It's grease monkeys. Whatever. It's grease monkeys. Allow them to be higher on the food chain. And a bunch of hogs. Whatever. And now you need data from Star Trek in there being like, I can fix your car for you. I have no emotions. I do not look at your car like a child like you do. Uh-huh. I was fixed. But this is the thing, right? So, whoever did it left the chunk of orange paint on the back of the bumper. Uh-oh. And I took a picture of it because now the car, the car's in the shop. So now what I've been doing is every day. You're a psycho.

You're a psycho. I'm tri- I'm trailing through the park. I know what you're doing. Go into each car that remote, the color. You are a psychopath. Okay, so you're hunting your neighborhood for slime. You're looking for the slime monster. And now you're also playing junior detective Henry Zabrowski trying to find a car that has a matching paint swab as yours. I didn't get asked to do this. This got thrust upon me. I didn't want to be an amateur detective. Other people are making me do this. Society is making me do this. And so yesterday, I'm trolling around this car, right? And I'm looking around and I'm, you know, obviously I look like I'm, you'd say what your term was, a psychopath, because I'm walking and I'm looking for any

marks on this car and I see this family come to and now I'm hiding underneath the car. Like I go and I hide. Oh my God. Because just in case they are, even though it's them or me, and then a part of me thinks, why am I hiding? I'm not the one who broke the law. Are you going to beat up the family? You're going to beat up a family of five because you have a small scratch in your car that you can't figure out how to fix? I am going to say this. I don't know what I'll do if I discover who hit the car. You know what? I know what you're going to do. I'm not saying I'm going to hurt them. You're going to do nothing. You're going to be like, huh, that's phase two. Right now you're

in phase one. You're in the hunting phase. You're like, I'm out here. I'm in the woods. I've got my little bow and arrow, got some beers, got some beef jerky. I'm going to find some deer. And you don't realize once you see a deer, you got to kill it and then you have to gut it. No, I sort of understand. I sort of understand the checks I'm writing for myself that I'll have to cash later on. But my main, what I really want to do is I just want to scratch, I know, into the, into the bumper or like into the hood with my keys. You want to make this a 90s teen horror film? Great. All right. This is Side Stories, everyone. I am Ben Kissell with Henry Zabrowski. You know, utterly upset over in Los Angeles.

We got a lot of stuff to get to today. We're going to read some of the Michelle Carter text messages. We have a couple of funny stories. We also had some great emails this week that we're going to get to about, about Skinwalker Ranch and also we had someone who went to school with Conrad Roy, of course, the man who committed suicide at the behest of Michelle Carter. But first things first, I want to, first, I want to, there's, there's one story that we've been getting sent like a lot, like 10 times a week about this woman who ate her husband over three years. It's not a true story. So don't bother sending it. If you want to know if the story is true, just type it into the Google machine. And if Snopes is the first thing that comes up,

it tends to be, it tends to be wrong. It's completely fake. But no, we are trying to be better and also not broadcasting fake stories because we've been, we have been fooled in the past. We've been fooled. And we don't want to be, we don't want to be fooled anymore. I don't, I don't want, I want to be Roger Daltry about this. Absolutely. But the first thing, not get fooled again. It's tight, tight old man. I hear you buddy. My, my go-to example would be Penn and Teller. They have a show called Fool Us. And it's actually very good. Love that show. That is a kind of one of my, that's my alone post masturbation, like what I'm just coasting for iBleach on the internet. I watch a lot of Fool Us.

Yeah. Well, it's, I don't know how they do anything. I don't even, I don't, they're so hard. Magic is incredible. But the first thing we're going to talk about, there was a new documentary out, I believe it's Amazon Prime. And it is called Lorena. And it is about Lorena Bobbit. And I got to say, it's a four part series, season one. I don't think they need to make a season two. I think we got it. But holy hell, that story is so much bigger than I remember with my 13 year old brain growing up in Wisconsin. Natalie and I were talking about this, about how like, I remember, I mean, because it trickled down into us just talking, make cock jokes, with all just about cutting off penises and throwing penises. And we were having a wonderful time. But then when they showed the footage, because they did a couple

of those gotcha moments, a couple of the jump scares with that cut off cock. Oh my God. And it looks like a Duchamp painting. It looks like surrealist painting with the way the clean cut of the penis shaft and just his balls there. And it's kind of nicely composed. Well, you know, that's the thing. So they they're just going through the documentary. She's like, and then you talk about do people not know who Lorena Bob? All right, so doesn't that you you must if you are listening to this show, you're probably 35 quick back story. Lorena Bobbit, her husband, John Bobbitt, he was extremely abusive. She cut off his penis. He came home hammered. She cut off his penis. She takes it into the car with her. She throws it into the into a wooded not even a wooded area. It's just sort of, you know, in the grass by

a stop sign. And it was a retention pond. It was right outside of the 7 11. Yes. And that became national news. And of course, she ended up getting a lot of love. Lorena did from battered women and from women in general would be like, What the hell did this guy do to deserve to get his dongler cut off and cleanly like like, like freaking H H Holmes did it or something. And I know that they were really trying to pinpoint this because she ran this concept of being innocent because of insanity, right? That saying in the moment she had been raped in her sleep by him, he came home drunk. He he forced himself on her. He rolled off in a moment of pure rage. She went blank. She went to the bed. She went to the kitchen. She said she opened the refrigerator door shaft of light from the

refrigerator fell upon the knife and then yada yada yada. She's driving in her in her testimony. She's driving with the knife in one hand and his dick in the other. And she just wakes up, looks at the cock, throws it out the window, drives all the way to her work in a fucking like a sleepwalk scenario, goes tosses the knife into a trash can because her boss was kind of a protector of hers. She would tell her kind of what was going on inside of the house. But it is interesting to watch the defense like really trying to like find an actual reason like saying that no, you knew the difference between right and wrong in the moment. And I I'm sort of like because now I'm talking to it's like it doesn't really matter what she if she knew or what she was doing anymore because the amount

of abuse led up to mistakes up to the point where essentially she was fighting for her life. Yes, she really was. And of course, a lot of people speculated why would she go to work? Oh, so calm like just going to work the next day. But that's where she would go. Oftentimes she would sleep in her car in the parking lot. Evidently, it wasn't that night that John was being horrible. But it was all I mean it was just a collection of horrible series of abusive way much that's more of the problems of what they were talking about the domestic violence and the investigation domestic violence is really difficult because it's a one on one thing it's within the privacy of someone's home. So it's he said she said or he said he said she said she said it's like it is that all time and it's very difficult to prove

what is reality. But you look at the history of abuse she had it obviously and how many times she had called the cops on him and then when the when the when the which the woman with her nails done by her and when she lifted up the sleeves and she saw bruises or wrists up to her fucking elbows. She was obviously in duress and and and she definitely was in danger. Absolutely being murdered because he was going to murder her. Oh, absolutely he was going to murder her and as a matter of fact a little bit later on in and this is full of spoilers. Should we spoil the whole thing or just I don't know you just watch it. You're going to just watch it. But it's rage porn anyway. It's just more of the the documentary does a good job of pointing to what a waste of life. John Wade

Bob it and yes really horrible. And there's an interview with another woman because he ended up getting all these bizarre side jobs after the celebrity. Honestly he got I remember all the all the stern stuff but anyway so long story short he ends up dating this girl from the bunny ranch. She takes him out of town all the way up here to upstate New York and what he does to her is unbelievable ties her up for three days tortures her for three days. She was about to die. He was about to carry her out in a body bag because he thought she was dead and he opens the door and she was able to sprint out so he was he is a killer. John Wayne Bob it is a killer. It's not cute. He's not like I can't believe he got his dick cut off. What a funny porn. Frankenweener which

is a funny name for a porno but but he wouldn't mutilated his own cock with an enlargement surgery on camera. But anyway let's go back really quick. The funniest thing the funniest thing about this documentary is when the cops so they're snooping around and they're looking for this dick. And when I thought about like John Wayne Bob it's dick. I guess I was thinking more like a like a sick like a dildo. I was thinking more but in reality because it's no it shrinks up. It's just like a little smurf like a little. It's just this little head. It's just the head of this dick. Yeah just like a little smurf that hasn't seen the sun in forever and it's totally pale like powder and of course that's a great 90s movie powder

check it out. And no do not check that movie out because it was directed by a child molester. Oh okay then don't. I didn't know that. When did that happen? He got convicted of child molestation powder in that film. They went on to go to make Jeepers Creepers. Yeah. Can I have anything? Can I have one? I wanted the boy that controls electricity. I'm going to tell you what for this new Michael Jackson documentary coming out. I'm going to say get yourself a blindfold and get yourself some. Honestly don't go see it if you're worried about having your heroes ruined. Quick side story when it comes to Michael Jackson. So our friend Daniela Panetta she was in the screening and she texted me on Instagram was like this is going to be

sending some shockwaves throughout the community because they had victims all lined up there and they were speaking about what Michael Jackson did to them. Listen to beat it now. Get it all in and get your thrillers out. And then I immediately because you know all of us are just massive news junkies so I'm just flipping through the paper and then I see I think this was in New York Times art section the director of the new Michael Jackson musical that's supposed to hit Broadway and he was talking about how he was like we're taking Michael a different approach. He was complicated. I think your Broadway play is going to get totally shelved. The thing is is music is eternal and can beats molester child can

grooves ruin a child's life. I don't think so. I don't mean that's why we're featured nothing but groups they just call it like they just call it beat it because maybe they'll get away with it by just naming the song. Yeah after one of the most aggressive naming yeah name it name it the most aggressive song title that he has beat it. That's a perfect way to do it anyway so that is going to be a firestorm in the media but anyway I just want to tell this one story about when the cop found the little dongler. Oh my god this fucking bull shit. So we got these cops and they are like I don't know early 90s masculine so they are just weird so the cop they magically stumble upon this dingler and the cop looks

at it he puts his boot on top of it and is just like here here it is and he said he points at it as far away as possible they said it's like he raised his hand up to eyeball level and pointed down because just the idea of touching a man's dismembered penis would make him gay. That's what he because he's like I'm a very religious man so I can't touch so John Wayne Bobbitt's cock is just being smothered like a cigar in an airport bar by some random boot and it is I just thought that was great. So if he was by himself if he found a dismembered penis in the field would he just pick it up and just go like kissing his kisses and it's like popping through his mouth and suck on it like it's the spark plug

like in a cone head. I have when he's cleaning the spark plug and he's spitting out like nah it's okay. I have no idea what this cop was scared of but evidently that was that was a bit too far for him to go. So there's also a spoiler that I don't even know if we should bring up but it is pretty funny at the very end of John Wayne Bobbitt when they cut to him pulling away and it shows that he had he went ahead and made himself a vanity Donald Trump license plate that just says it says I think it says DJ Trump. It's DJ Trump. Yeah DJ Trump which takes quite a bit of I mean it's just perfect it's just spot on because he's just a dickless he's literally a dickless bully that came from trash and

continued his trash legacy into the future. Yes well it is pretty remarkable and this is not I understand you know there's we're still talking about him we're not even talking about Lorraine Bobbitt when you all of the shit she went through. We can change that though we can change that right now. Yes of course he is and I'm not whatever everyone's different there's a lot of reasons for everything but he is like when you think about like true de-bag like that was just like when you see someone with a I don't care what president you're like you should never like fall in love and like fetishize the president to the point where you have a vanity license plate. DJ Trump and then on his motorcycle it just

says Trump and I'm like what are you trying to prove nobody cares. I'm a puke. I don't care if I fuck who the president is. Whatever. I don't give a shit who the fuck it is. You're really rooting for him that hard. When it comes to. Honestly unless it's Taft. Of course and it just fits so nicely on a vanity plate. Taft of course. Yes. So yes. My other car is a bathtub. It says. This is the content people love people. It is free though. It is free. Yeah. Yeah. That's very good. So just lastly about John Wayne Bobbitt and we'll talk a little bit about Lorraine. So he had his penis cut off and then he wanted to do porno. So he wanted to get for Frankenweener or Frankenpenis a full on like puffed up extension

both with and girth. Turns out he went to the wrong doctor. Totally mangled his penis. It can no longer work. It's completely not functioning. So he actually had a good surgery the first time to replace it and then because of his vanity because of his vein personality he ruined it and I just thought that was perfect. It was a cash crap. Yes. Because he was saying everyone's everybody's so excited to see my dick. Oh yeah. You're discussing because it's a side show dude. Exactly. You are a side show and not even a side show character that we love and admire because I do like a lot of side show characters. Lorraine Bobbitt's story and it becoming was very very inspiring and the way she changed her life to change

her like give back to the community. All the kind of love she got from victims of domestic violence victims of domestic violence all over the world that she went and she took care of. She put a lot into understanding that she got the spotlight from this crazy tabloid story. Right. And so she then used it and I thought that it was very it's very illuminating for people to see just how much mayhem and shit can happen in somebody's house and how like people need networks. It's like you know like she really it's it's not it is not an easy choice to leave the way they talk about the some because they talk about the most vulnerable point for a woman from leaving an abusive partner is the six months after

she already breaks up or when they break up. Yeah they're going to kill you. And to that point so just anyway I know we're kind of all over the place here so bear with us but just to go back just briefly when it comes to the trial John Wayne Bobbitt was on trial for abusing Lorraine. He was found not guilty because the trial was kind of a sham. The judge only let five days be accounted for two days before and three days after or something like that. It was a five day window that the judge allowed to be taken into consideration when it comes to abuse. So he was found totally not guilty. He was walking Lorraine. It was found guilty by reason of insanity insanity did 45 days in a psych ward. Anyway so Lorraine

it gets out and I'm begging for 45 days in a psych ward. Honestly it sounds really relaxed. I don't think it looked that it was just it was at the prison. That was I mean that one was but I mean one that I'll know you need you need like what's it called what's the rehab place something of Malibu. Yes yes I want to say it's called like escalades of Malibu or waterfalls of Honolulu where you go and it's just you sit in a lawn chair but no one can really see that your handcuffed to the lawn chair. Right yeah that would be perfect. So Lorraine because she was able to do what she did and defend herself obviously she got a lot of outreach from people who were victims of domestic violence. She partly that into

doing a lot of speaking engagements for her own therapy in many ways too and she has saved countless countless lives. So she does a bunch of wonderful things and she is a great little husband. I love Dan. I think it's Dan. Love him. Big Dan. Big Dan. I love him. So she was able to bring it together save lives help people. John Wayne Bobbitt as you can imagine is going to die alone sad in a crappy crappy little place and that just shows you what you put into the world is what you're going to get out. You say it with the fake accent but you're correct. Yes. Because I really believe that John Wayne Bobbitt is a piece of shit and he will never get any sort of success out of this. No absolutely. All those times

you saw a monster and all the Frankenweenies or Frankenpenis all those porno's he didn't get a dime because he got hoodwinked by everyone because he was around. You can imagine the disgusting people and Lorraine had a couple of people that used her too but nothing is bad as John Wayne Bobbitt and again you know what he's a moron so. He just he leaned in because he's a classist piece of shit. So anyway check out the Lorraine documentary it's well worth it. There's a story that has happened I guess this is happening in Philadelphia and it happened over this movie. Oh yeah. Now it says people that we've got reached out to by a bunch of listeners and turns out to be this story is a little bit it's going viral and it's this

copy of this letter that seemed to have been left in people's mailboxes over the weekend in Philadelphia. I haven't gotten a number on exactly how many. It comes from what I believe is an entity known as ABBA. It is just a letter. It is on a piece of paper. It's just a sheet of paper. Is it an entity named ABBA? I don't know what it is. It's probably a person. It's I mean who knows. I don't know if it is the ABBA and I'm certain the ABBA is actually upset they can actually sue for this. It's not ABBA the bad I'm just saying I think it's a I don't okay all right anyway it says ABBA at the top. Okay all right so this is what the letter read that was given to looks like probably about a hundred people in Philadelphia this weekend.

ABBA this is to inform you that all the food ate since first grade is alive in your body especially the dead animal remains or meat since it was cooked alive and is alive in your body anywhere it goes now you must go with it that's 365 days a year from first grade to now breakfast lunch dinner also newborn baby received your first grade body or a meal just like the 365 days a year breakfast lunch dinner the only way I see for you to save yourself from the every witch away of being burned alive that scheduled is to become a solid steel statue by place yourself under anesthesia and mixing your body with melted metal then re-solidifying the metal or seal yourself in cement that's an option cement is an option that's an option

okay when it becomes real to you you can type it up and have a lot of copies made then pass them out and post them up what is needed is a steel furnace where metal can be melted and the bodies of people and animals mix with the metal to become steel unable to be hurt of course you'll be sedated first there will be that is just the letter B a meeting on April 27 2019 12 o'clock in the afternoon on the subject of building its steel furnace at 27th and Gerard Avenue on the vacant lot what we need is a bulldozer to dig some ditches and steel furnace equipment do attend do attend all right so this is sort of like a it's sort of like the game of clue remember that when they were all going there like when

we got this bizarre letter we were just told to attend so I would say this if you're in the Philadelphia area and you got strong friends maybe bring a Ben kissle with you just but the Ben kissle it works out go there and see what the hell is happening and report to us please what is going to be happening late April in this vacant parking lot and really worst case scenario you do know how to you do learn how to build a steel furnace and that can be good for crafts good for ceramics good for baking cups or bowls vases whatever you might want it just seems to be bizarre I mean obviously there is some footage here I'm actually looking up right now there is some security cam footage

of what looks to be an older gentleman in a winter hat a big floppy hat it looks like an elf hand distributing the letters up and down the street now this seems to come from a one of those pinhole cams oh yes I forget the name of what's what's it called a snapper you're on camera now I think it's called you're on camera now yeah and so this man is just going from house to house with an arm full of papers just delivering them to each house they said cops and fellow you're saying just report it we don't know what the hell this is going to be right I'm really would be I mean impressed if on April 27 to that 2019 at noon if you showed up at that parking lot and it was Abba playing their first

single oh my do attend oh that would be incredible that would be really got the homeless street team going I mean I think that's great and no matter what this person if you build it they will come it looks like there is now a Facebook event for the vacant lot furnace festival now they're calling it the vacant lot furnace festival which I love Philadelphia with like okay cool we'll go vacant lot furnace festival not a big deal that's a horrible accident but it is what it is 27th and Gerard so get out there April what is it April April 27 that noon 2019 my problem is is that what if it's just a guy a guy just shows up with his dick out I mean like I mean that could be that's possible but I think if you have

a lot of other people there blaring music from their cars maybe try to choose the same song maybe Abba would be a good band to play just collectively as a group pop a couple of Coors have a good Philadelphia time get some cheese steaks out there I think it would be good this this guy might accidentally bring the community together I mean honestly this could be a new festival you start the steel furnace festival you show up there actually there's a they're starting a go fund me for mental health in the Philadelphia area that they're calling it do attend and they said because the furnace letter went viral they're trying to get people out there to give money to I have no clue if this is legit or not so

I'm not gonna fully yeah be careful so but a part of it is like so there's stuff like people are really trying to flip it into something important but I tell you what man wouldn't it be nice to have the ability to just turn into a steel statue then nothing can fucking hurt you then I'm out here I'm full steel statue me walk them through the park well looking for the person who dare defend my fucking my Prius was innocent well your Prius is a Prius so no Prius is totally innocent they're still a my Prius is innocent you cannot be an innocent Prius that's just my I don't call it what it is maybe it's car is I don't know clink but clink and then all of a sudden all the families are running for me and they

said oh he came from the steel furnace right absolutely must be brave enough to have went there to Philadelphia April 27th at noon does this man have just to try to arm chair diagnose obviously I know breaking news were not actual doctors what do you mean Richard Chase he was always talking about how things inside of his body were alive and is this like a is this a schizophrenia do you think because there is I tell you what it's certainly not the it's certainly not measles no it's not me we can do honestly you can take our word to the bank on yes um he is a obviously a very you say a lost individual that is trying to reach out or he's an artist or he's an artist which is why why why take one away from the

other absolute artist could be very sick and still and still be distributing these letters it does seem to be someone that it does seem to be similar to the gang stalking type writing the way it's all kind of misspelled and weirdly put together there was a man that used to come when I used to work at Eckerd's right oh for I used to work before I think I've talked about this on the show but there's a period of time where I worked at the photo developing section of an Eckerd's which are now basically CVS is back before it was digital back when I used to have to wear big rubber gloves up to my elbows and actually soak shit oh yeah cancer causing chemicals that I should never have been allowed to touch well a regular Robin

Williams in one hour photo which is actually a good Robin Williams feet a film I have to like apologize for Robin Williams now he's a very good performer in that film as well he is obviously a very good performer and so I was doing this but there is this weird older gentleman because John Moreno that was a murderous also used to work with me and we were always like drunk at work and like fucked up and so but this guy used to come in and he'd be like hi got any gold coins to die and we're like because that was the time when the dollar coins were big the dollar gold coins were new and so you'd give us dollars and we'd give him gold coins in exchange and because he loved his gold coins well thank you so much

of all I got a lot to spend my gold coins I got my leprechaun really cool great great sure whatever man but then he started bringing these Xerox papers that are very similar to Abiletter where it would say being like you got to he it was this whole program that he had built out that said me and John he would like he put John and Henry in the contract and he said you have to sign this contract in order to make him do push-ups till his arms go crickety-crackin' and he was just like you gotta make me do the push-ups to my arms go crickety-crackin' and then because if not because he said if we don't if his arms go crickety-crackity and we let him stop doing we let him stop doing push-ups then he's got

to hold the bricks down he said I gotta hold the bricks down unless you make me do and you gotta sit on me you gotta come and sit on me and it was more centered on John because he seemed to be sexually fixated on John asked him all the time if he had a boyfriend and seemed to come in like you can come I get naked I do the push-ups you make me do the push-ups and if not you beat me and you make me hold the bricks down great well that's what you did I'm sorry he's doing great I'm sure he owned a building he was one of those guys that did that thing where he was left to his own after whoever was last taking care of him right passed on and so he owned property in Tallahassee and he used to like walk around

all the time and we knew he was worth a bunch of money but he was just this crooked weird gay homeless leprechaun well you know you like to work out and that's good for the body so I think John could have helped him out a little bit with that hopefully his bones are to this day going crickety crack we wish the best for the creepy man he used to come into the Eckers in South Florida so that that's another layer of creepy that was the darkest period of my life great alright I'm pretty certain because I used to get a little handle of Evan Williams and before shift every night because this is when I was also living out of my car for a period of time so I'd go and like I'd suck down

the Evan Williams behind the machine so the bosses wouldn't see even though they got camera spine I know they're saying so I used to crouch down and suck on the Evan Williams you reek like Evan Williams they knew I used to go sleep in my Hyundai Elantra yes why why didn't you have a house it was it was a time it wasn't there was a time there it was between houses and then all of a sudden it was between places and I you know when you're at a level of like I don't know if you've done that we're just such a trash people as a human being that I was just like fuck it I'll just leave my fucking car which is me eating KFC and drinking whiskey and sleeping in my car honestly there's

something kind of fun about that of course it was growing up is a rules growing up is an interesting time you know I mean that's nice though we didn't have parents who gave us money so it was just like you sleep in your car you don't you don't have you don't have a lifeline the way that some folks do and of course if I really need money I'm sure my parents would have been fine but I'm not my parents I just want to call I was cut off life from your play life from your play well all right so let's get to a story it's not quite as possibly fun as the funeral festival would be I really hope that turns out to be a place where people find love it's going to be better than the fire festival guaranteed

but let's clean me while him just slapping his dick you can do it as well whoever organized it I will say can do whatever they want if they are isolated and alone they cannot do it yes but yeah whatever you're the organizer you get a little bit of carte blanche but now we mentioned on last episode towards the end we were going to read some of these email exchanges from Conrad Roy and Michelle Carter of course Michelle Carter the gal who let's just say pushed him over the edge you know a good motivating head coach can get their team to do great things and she is like the opposite of that so no well actually technically the she is that she's Phil

Jackson but but the opposite because they won six championships in this man committed suicide I mean yeah that and that way you are correct yes and we do have a couple of a redo of an email I want to read because some people that listen went to school with Conrad and apparently he was a very nice guy and it's very sad that he was she looked like so she looks like a fucking alien she is horrifying she's got a big old forehead in those piercing eyes she's going to be I'm afraid of what it was so well basically she just got sentenced to 15 months in jail she got set and I was like I wonder what the hell is going to happen to her once she gets into prison I feel like it's just

going to harden her into even be a more fucking deep end bitch I have no idea I don't know about physically I I don't even care I don't want to comment on that because quite frankly there is there's something about those piercing eyes but she's a horrible person so let's just read Henry will read Michelle and then I'll read a little bit of Conrad's responses and then we'll just talk about it because I mentioned on the last episode like should a person be sentenced to prison time for texting someone to do something bad is it still on the person to have personal responsibility but it seems like this goes a little bit above and beyond because

the dude was like literally help me and then she was like no how about I don't let's read through these texts so you can actually hear what it sounds like to have somebody completely manipulate you and and push you in a place that you didn't need to be pushed okay it's so it's very fucked is very fucked I'll start with I'll start with Michelle Conrad hey you there oh hey sorry I fell asleep it's okay why haven't you done it yet though I'm too messed up to what are you talking about my head you think you can't think about it you just have to do it you said you were gonna do it like I don't get why you aren't I don't get it

either I don't know so I guess you aren't gonna do it then all that for nothing I'm just confused like you were so ready and determined I am gonna eventually really I don't know what I'm waiting for but I have everything lined up no you're not Conrad last night was it you keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but you never do it's always gonna be that way if you don't take action you're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off you just have to do it do you want to do it now is it too late I don't know it's already light outside I'm gonna go back to sleep love you I'll text you tomorrow love you oh my no it's

probably the best time now because everybody's sleeping just go somewhere in your truck and no one's really out right now because it's an awkward time if you don't do it now you're never gonna do it all you can say you'll do it tomorrow but you probably won't love you oh my god thank you this is a fucking monster she's a fucking monster oh my god thank you there's a couple of things she says here like you're you're you're so hesitant because you keep overthinking it and pushing it off you just need to do it Conrad the more you push it off the more it will eat at you you're ready and prepared all you have to do is turn

the generator on and you be free and happy no more pushing it off no more waiting and then she plays with him she says I would never leave you you're the love of my life my boyfriend you're my heart I'd never leave you you are literally killing him ah good lord you're literally killing him and then afterwards when this whole thing went down basically she pretended like she didn't know where he was and talked to his family and so dead no clue that all of this shit went down and when acted all surprised when the body was found so she knew what she was doing too like oh she didn't know she posted on Facebook or Twitter or something being like

I'm grieving I can't believe I lost my boyfriend she wanted to get that sympathy card she's just fucked man yes she's just up she is just a duck she is horrible and of course she also says and you can't break a promise and just go into a quiet parking lot or something she really dives deep and she continues to tell him that she loves him in between so she is obviously this man's already extremely depressed and sad and being 18 years old sucks and so she's like I love you do it I love you like I cannot so she just had him running in circles mentally yeah and I think a part of it too is that I'm not going to when it comes to Michelle Carter

is that she was also 17 years old so it's weird how you get into these these like thought loops I think as younger to this like concept of this high drama because your emotions are going like crazy and so you believe in some shape or form that she is in a television show almost with Conrad well and sometimes yeah and the separation of the screen is real yes you know because you don't understand you don't fully understand you're talking to somebody like and what you're doing because it's all separated you're doing all over fucking text it's not like she's there where it's like how fucked up would she have been able to like how fucked up

would she have been if she had had to do it like in front of him oh my god it's horrible so we got this email from Kayla and this is what she just has to say I'll just kind of paraphrase some of it but she's like hi guys heard you guys want some opinions on Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy he was she went to school with Conrad Roy she says he was just a bit younger than me they had gym class together and they were on the school's track team as well a close friend of mine had befriended him and introduced us to him in gym class he was joking and having fun with her as I remarked on what a unique and weird name Conrad was

I remember thinking how nice he was and how friendly he was it haunts me years after this his mother came into the clothing store I worked at to find a dress for his funeral she so it's very sad she goes on to obviously say horrible things and accurate things about Michelle and so this guy was just a normal 18 year old boy and you can just imagine when you're a parent losing losing a kid like that and under those circumstances I fully understand the rage that they must feel towards Michelle and I understand that's why the justice department or that's why law enforcement got involved so I guess the question then

is what does this do because of course Michelle Carter and her defense attorney has appealed saying you know dude she just sent some text messages but they're so intense and it's just it's completely responsible because he had already I mean like how many guys out there and and women how often you realize you've put yourself into an almost this there's a vulnerable spot with somebody else where you've kind of given over control of your will like it seems to be he was so in a pit of depression which I can kind of understand it's like a part of being like it's a part of being a teenager honestly absolutely and also true

depressive episodes a lot of times they're almost being like you fucking do it you tell me what to do right because the sheer effort of directing your will because a lot of what depression is is not just acute sadness it just it's not just crying it's also you are fucking you feel nothing right you don't care about anything and of course and it goes so deep that you're almost to a point where you're just been like whatever if you if you literally just stop hassling me I'll do it right and of course continuing on with Kayla's email here she says learning that Michelle went on after his death to help organize a fundraiser

for mental illness in his honor it was called homers for Conrad is disgusting and that really does bring it into like the next level of like you drove this man to commit suicide would he have done it without those texts we don't know we just know for a fact that she definitely didn't help the case to manipulate all of that and put on fundraiser try to seem try to seem like a mother Teresa although mother Teresa was no mother Teresa herself but I love that lion bitch lion bitch she loved the television camera she did she's like a Nancy Grace which is weird if you could think of you can you can pair those two I think this is not going

to be the last time we're gonna hear from Michelle Carter I think she's gonna do fucked up shit in the future I think that this is literally a psychopath in the making and this is the first taste and unfortunately prison may make her worse I mean where does she just go down as we've seen you know when we were watching going back to the Lorena documentary we haven't changed our society has actually gotten worse when it comes to glorifying bad behavior when it comes to making people celebrities simply because of crime we've talked about this on past episodes so I wouldn't be surprised if Michelle Carter does a media tour writes a book

and I'm sure as Ted Bundy had sympathizers and Adam Lonza had sympathizers I am sure she is going to have sympathizers of course I wouldn't be surprised if she's gonna be able to because she was found guilty I'm not sure what the legal logistics are when it comes to profiting off of this but I'm gonna be a celebrity you can sell your own story I believe you can I believe that you could figure that out I mean she's also young so maybe she's got the ears maybe maybe she's got the ears at her that are gonna teach her that life's a fucking precious thing and that it things big people come and go real fast and you are going to

eventually because I know I've got more sensitive as I've gotten older this is me sensitive this is you sensitive this is me sensitive well used to be calmer I do think he used to be more calm you know what are you talking about I think you used to be a little bit more calm now I got things to fight I guess so see everything I got my back against the wall kiss I know what you're up to well now you're currently just stalking to some degree like you're a character in Resident Evil 2 the reboot which again you have to play you're just in a parking garage with a magnifying glass trying to find the person to hit your car

when it comes down to someone's gonna be thankful for me what if it's just like this buff dude because it's near a gym you park near a gym what if it's just like the biggest dude and then you have to be like so just one that you know you hit my car sir and I just thank you thank you for you know I mean I'm gonna fucking I mean Natalie hates when I say it but I'm gonna you know the kind of pull a Bundy I mean I get a crutch and a and a we get a crutch in a cast and I act like I'm all hurt and stuff I think just by sheer surprise I can whack them in the nuts right or what I do is to play an extended game of cat and mouse right leave

messages first but don't don't ask for money just ask for we I like like do kind of like in die hard with a vengeance right where all of a sudden he's got to do weird public stuff like I act like I'm I'm a part of a massive network of of secret key so you want to you want to be a lone gang stalker you want to gang stalk this man for hitting accidentally side swiping your Prius doesn't look that accidentally all right so let's do we have we're gonna conclude this episode with a little fan a scent I guess kind of creepypastas but it's it's about skinwalkers cuz obviously we're gonna walk a rich after we do the last week's

episode it's good Walker rich we asked for people to send in whatever stories or any information they had about skinwalkers people they've talked to and we got a bunch of fun assy we did but I really want to go so we're gonna read those in one second just just before we do that I just want to read this one story because it's freaking cracking me up so this is this dude this is a misunderstanding at a Home Depot in Wichita Kansas the headline is I'm fixing to blow it up bathroom warning mistaken for bomb threat at Home Depot a report of a bomb thrown at a Home Depot store in Kansas turned out to be a

big misunderstanding someone at the store in Wichita called 911 after a customer reportedly said they overheard a threat in the store's restroom we had we just had a customer here we just had a customer here who may have made a bomb threats the caller said by the way what happens in the bathroom what's set in the bathroom stays in the bathroom random caller he said somebody told me there's a bomb in here and you need to leave the building he said it three times so the guy took a dog and he's just like there is a bomb there was he talking to himself I don't know what he literally do the thing or saying all right about

to blow with this fucking rip please did some investigating to learn the bomb threat came from a man in the bathroom stall warning others about the severity of his need to use the restroom he said you all need to get out of here cuz I'm fixing to blow it up and that was one one witness said he laughed at the remark and took it as a joke and so this caller I understand see something say something maybe Home Depot in Wichita Kansas isn't the front line of the war on terror but nonetheless I love this story because then you have to be like officer if I had to poop officer and they're like we'll take it down we'll

note it yeah yeah you want to see it I took some pictures of it for my friends cuz I tell you what I dropped an A bomb wait a second I mean oh but he gets also if a man's got a belt hitched under his belt right right he's not a terror no no he's not a terrorist because he hop because if you got a belt like the shirt tucked into underneath the gut and stuff that it belies a father like confidence sure it shows you want people to see the wealth that you have attained in your in your belly have an extra eight inches of batter yes attached to your frame absolutely and you know just take into account where you are is

the person laughing would this be the place that you would be fixing to blow up if you're in the bathroom yes yes it is are you at the New York Stock Exchange or the water supply for Los Angeles to buy I don't know where you go like are you on top of the Hoover Dam and he says I'm fixing to blow this up that's a good indicator right maybe some terrorism is involved yes but not in not in a home depot which don't anyway funny story and I just I just love I just feel bad for the guy cuz you know he just had to go to the bathroom so bad and then you get out of the bathroom there's a bunch of cops around you like how bad do I mean

I know I dropped the loaf but I didn't know it was the criminality I'm sorry I confessed to the crime it was me I had lentil soup for the breakfast because it was left by my own wife and she said I need the fiber oh my god what what a guy anyway he's the he's the legend of the week I just come up with different things of the week and I'm saying the man who took a dump in Wichita is legend of the week or hero we don't need segments Castle we're bigger and faster and stronger than well technically they're I kind of announced them after we've already done the story and then it's so it's not really a segment but I'm a

producer you know I produce we are produced I produced on TV for a year I don't remember those years lead in one year I remember and again Travis is a producer as well yes Travis is a producer you know this is what we do we generate content your people listening to this right now that trust us I hope that they do so anyway let's do these emails this is an email from Lauren kind of skinwalker related kind of not okay cool hey guys I wanted to send a story to you all for a while now but the recent skinwalker ranch episode made me feel like now be right time to send it I don't think it'd be really considered a

skinwalker story but it has fallen under the umbrella of weird creature phenomenon taking place on farms alright so my mother's friend from high school claims has happened to him while he was still going to high school in the 80s we don't know whether or not it happened or not or it was a trick of the imagination blah blah blah we know this sure but it's a fun story this is the story of my town's paranormal incident the devil dog I came from very small rural town in East Tennessee among the Appalachian Mountains a majority of the families here either work in the farming or coal industry my mother's high school

friend we'll call him Steve good fake name great name was going out with his brother to their farm one evening after school and they noticed that the cows were tightly huddled together which seemed odd to them there's an old wives tale that when cattle huddled together there's a storm approach however there was nothing in the weather forecast that suggested this although they thought that this was strange they just shrugged off and decided to go on with their work on the farm Steve said his brother will call him Brad good friends brothers name Steven Brad okay even Brad good news those are good blank names love it do

go get something out of the shed Brad obeyed and went off to the shed a few minutes later Brad comes sprinting out of the shed screaming before Steve could ask what was wrong this creature ran out of the shed behind him now listen to this description it at the body of a dog the legs and hooves of a goat and the head of a rabbit naturally the two brothers piled in their truck and drove off as fast as possible the creature chased them until they got a decent distance away and although the brothers drove away they parked at the edge of their property and still watched the creature that had made its way on top of a hill on the

farm Steve says the creature walked around in a circle a few times like a dog finding the right place to lie down and then proceeded to dig its way into the ground cool and so what they said here a few weeks went by Steven Brad had not seen any side of the creature again a doctor and his son moved into a small town that was on Steven Brad's property so one day while the doctor and his son were having dinner with Brad and see his family Steve thought it would be funny to get the doctor's son scared as a bit of fun hazing since he was new to town Steve said hey you better watch out for the devil dog on the farm he'll get you

the doctor's son didn't even flinch who implied oh there's no need to worry about that that's my friend oh no idea how to handle this response and the family just went on with the evening a few weeks later the doctor's son killed himself by shooting himself in the room oh my is a crazy crazy story devil I will talk about the there's some connection to the bell witch because the main creature that was mentioned in that had the body of a dog in the head of a rabbit interesting kind of very interesting and I have a little tag on puffin that says devil dog that we got in Florida when we were there for your wedding that's so

cute yeah he's a German Spitz all right well this this story comes in from Liz I'm gonna leave the last name out just just because this is from Liz dear last podcast we this is and then she says the name of their family Emily Elizabeth and Michael absolutely love the podcast thank you so much and particularly enjoyed the skin Walker episodes we decided to write because we spent many awful vacations in parentheses visiting our son of a bitch piece of shit grandfather Elmer okay let me know what you think that's how I feel about my fucking ex-grandmother I actually do love the the illiterate son

of a bitch piece of shit grandfather who lived directly across the street from bottle hollow we could see the concrete teepee buildings and the reservoir from from his property we estimate his land was not more than a few miles from skin walk a ranch well it seems like Elmer's in the right location to fit his mood the area is extremely isolated and there weren't other homes around for miles since the first time we visited we were repeatedly warned about packs of wild dogs that roam the area we were strictly not allowed outside at night and often heard howling and grunting we wanted to rescue the dogs but we were

warned by our grant by our grandfather parents and anyone else we met to not approach not is all caps so to not approach any dogs we saw we did see one of the alleged packs once coming out of a ditch we can only describe them as mangy mutts that looked like more that looked more like coyotes they didn't seem afraid of humans and sat and watched us from afar even when we went to the nearby town of vernal other kids would ask if we had seen the packs of dogs that lived in the basin Elmer of course this is the piece of shit grandfather repeatedly clonk complained that bums were camping on his land saying he saw

fires in the night and when he went to investigate found circular rings of burnt grass throughout his property he also lost many an emu yes he raised emus to the pack of dogs he said finding them ripped to shreds but not eaten he also had several animals drop dead we mostly attribute that to be to him being a shitty farmer Elmer eventually left it to an incident he will not talk about all he said was it got bloody all we know is he did dig large pits and proceeded to shoot his animals and throw them in the pits he left most of his belongings there we would ask him more but we thoroughly hate him and believe

he is truly an evil man maybe that's what drew him to the area in the first place feel free to share Utah is Utah where the weirdness is rampant thank you so much Liz so it looks like their father or grandfather perhaps maybe he was being tormented by some skin walkers himself killing all of his cattle and whatnot honestly with the weird rings on his bait on his property which we know for a fact we're gonna get into next week there some of the behavior of the whatever was going on at skin walker ranch did present itself as weird rings and scoop marks and dead animals and the lights in the forests are also very

similar to many of the UFO sightings in Utah yes Utah's very you tells a beautiful place a lot of sky out there now this is a letter I just wanted to read because I I love this this type of shit it's about high strangeness mixed with magic that I I think it's very fun this this is a great epic this is a great letter from bug eyes in the night okay by Justin hey guys I had the day off was working on the wife's car listen LP LP OTL and the power of Guinness prompted me to share a story I thought you might find interesting in 2012 I was living in Northeast Texas just off I-30 just getting into magic and the

occult I was experimenting with a lot of Crowley and rituals and Ouija I'm not saying that was the catalyst behind these events but I was hungry for results and willing to throw caution to the wind because I'm a very peculiar type of stupid anyway it was July 23rd I was sleeping next to my wife when a bright light accompanied by a deafening noise was headed straight towards our bedroom window which face the interstate I woke up with instant panic and shook my wife awake thinking a truck had veered off the interstate and was headed straight for us she was screaming I was sold a run I was gonna bolt in the next room and

grab our then one-year-old daughter next thing I knew I was waking up from a sound sleep what a vivid fucking scary dream I was catching my breath as you do after an intense nightmare when at the foot of the bed I immediately saw a figure just about six feet tall wearing what I can only describe as a nun's habit except dark purple the skin was like the green of an olive and the eyes look exactly like locust eyes wide and glassy and unblinking I was horrified I also found myself paralyzed and unable to run towards the creature whom in my panic I just wanted out of the room that's when I woke up again holy fuck

what's wrong my brain tonight and I heard my daughter crying that wasn't unusual but the fear and her cries made me bolt out of the bed into the room where she was supposed to be sleeping the door to the room open inward she was standing behind it shivering and crying I wrapped her up in a blanket and took her to the couch in the living room the curtains were open which overlooked some shrubbery and on the front porch where I saw a group of small gray five or six two or three in the morning and very dark running from the porch when I awoke it was daylight and I had fallen asleep on the couch with my daughter my wife

had no recollection of the truck my daughter remembered nothing a few months later we moved to a house across town I was still heavily into magical experimentation still not taking the proper precautions like an idiot my daughter kept running that wasn't even me that was him oh my my daughter kept running from the room screaming in the night we just thought she was having a rough time sleeping we would leave the bathroom light on on for her as well as a nightlight but the darkness in the room didn't seem to be an issue so one night my wife and I had planned to watch a meteor shower we set alarms for the

specific time woke up to the alarm and went out to find it cloudy disappointed we skunked off the bed where my wife was awakened by the sound of a little boy crying it was so disturbing to her she wouldn't leave the bed and asked me to check on it huh that's the husband's duty we're done we supposed to die first yeah absolutely what you're supposed to have a gun by your bed I think that's why I mean well I that's what my whip that's what I got okay that's good I thought perhaps some poor little guy was sleepwalking and woke up in our yard I walked around the house and found nothing assuming she experienced an episode of

vivid a vivid hypo hypnagogia hypnagogia with the bed minutes later my daughter came screaming from a room I wrapped her in a blanket we fell asleep in the recliner the next morning my wife noticed a number of red dots in my back that I could not explain so this is some weird-ass shit man you're supposed to you got to take care of yourself from doing magic because it's kind of wiggity thing so absolutely so we're gonna do one more listener email thank y'all so much for sending these by the way again you can do side stories LP OTL at gmail.com and you know we'll do this every now and again because it's really

fun so this one comes in from Lauren she says she always loved paranormal stuff and read into it for years but for some reason had never heard about this batshit paranormal haven in her own state after reading after I read the napbook this is according to her I talked to my boyfriend at the time into reading it this was 2009 and what a different time that was 2009 just ten different time two different times it's a different different world he said as she continues I wouldn't be at all in the present as it's as it's much more known but back then despite knowing that the government owned it and watched the

place we were confident we could get in at night so this is them this is Lauren and her former boyfriend I don't know what happened I hope everything's okay but they went to skin Walker Ranch so this is them coming up on skin Walker Ranch they say she says the town was tiny and sleeping when we got there but what was surprising to me was just how isolated the ranch was it didn't feel like it was part of the already tiny population of the place at all we drove on a dirt road for miles and miles lined with only a few watchtowers with no one in them before we were at the gate and past the gate was another mile of

dirt road and tell the actual home she says she has a photo of it here as well she says I didn't know what I was expecting to see out there but I feel like it was leaning towards nothing not that I didn't believe the stories I just didn't believe it happened on one trip but even so it was such an unsettling place that not even my two friends neither had read the book and one didn't believe in the paranormal at all didn't want to get out of their car and neither did I nobody was trying to scare each other nobody was being frantic there was just a thickness and a tension when we got there mostly we

were quiet it's truly again this is skin skin Walker Ranch it's truly a mile past the middle of nowhere out there it's very dark and you can see all the stars in the sky we parked at the gate and turned the car off and tried to work up the balls to get out there meanwhile there's not much to see other than blackness and sky so our eyes were mostly on that pretty immediately we all noticed weird orbs they were bigger than they were bigger than a star and a different color but could have been missed had they not started doing definitely not star shit they zoomed her is that it is that going to be in

your official they were doing not star shit yeah dude they zoomed around each other and then behind the skyline then would pop back up again and do it all over all across the sky it was like a weird dance it was almost ridiculous they'd get really bright and then disappear and then fade back in I can't remember exactly but there were about four or five of them and we sat there and watched this for like 35 minutes pretty much only saying to each other some variation of huh huh huh huh huh should be noted that we're all ridiculously sober thank you for the no thank you for the no it's hard because that's what

people immediately want to say be like ah you were fucked up of course like ah man I mean you could see weird shit without being fucked up is actually it fucked up it hurts you to be fucked absolutely so she says she remembers the orbs from the nap book she goes on to say when we finally somehow decided that we definitely have to get out at some point because we just drove three hours we didn't make it too far down the down the dirt road my non-believing friends tough ass boyfriend who talked about nothing else for a month and my own paranormal loving ass were already not feeling cool with the place we were

walking real slow and only got maybe a quarter mile down the road before we saw some headlights in the distance maybe two miles out there across the desert we thought we might be caught but they weren't coming in from the road that we had there was nothing there was no other road in that that we knew of but they were pointing towards us we stood there and watched them from for a second and tried to figure out exactly where they were going but when they got to a hill and didn't actually follow the curve of it but rather floated over it and blatantly defied physics we fully embraced the excuse to fuck off pretty

quickly back to the car I didn't look back I didn't look back at it until the doors were shut but then there were no more lights when I did look back so that is a cool story thank you so much Lauren for the email I love this shit I mean that was a part of what they were saying the more and more you could deepen or skin walk a ranch and you read the testimony from the people that were on the ranch the part of the nids teams they all basically said the same shit it just being like you can do you know whatever it is about just like the nature of the activity here if it's real or not by the way it's creepy

as fuck out here that's what it sounds like to me it sets the tone absolutely in a beautiful clear sky I miss a good clear sky I want to see a clear sky one of these days we just don't get it one day we don't get it in the cities alright everyone well those are a couple of fun tales for this week thank you all so much for listening again feel free to email your thoughts or some stories side stories LP OTL at gmail.com and if you want to make sure that they're real just pop them in the old Google machine and what pops out you know if there's just make sure there's like three other articles and then I mean you know

otherwise we can always find that stuff out too I can't but I'll tell you what man I can't believe we lost Carl Lagerfeld yesterday who we lost him yesterday Carl Lagerfeld who's Carl Lagerfeld the skinniest bitchiest skeleton ever exist and this is what he said on this topic of short men that I I agree with oh wow I'm surprised you agree with that life is not a beauty contest some ugly people are great what I hate is nasty ugly people the worst is ugly short men women can be short but for men it is impossible it is something that they will not forgive in life they are mean and say want to kill you that's a

Carl Lagerfeld quote yeah he is he is he's a troublesome I didn't even see it trending on Twitter that I'm barely back on I it's kind of funny about what how things are are you didn't receive that news because the algorithm in the sky knows that you don't give a fuck well I don't I mean I know you're talking about he looks like a BDSM like nurse I remember he always wore the black like he was pinhead or something like a an evil rich butler yes yes yes yes I'm just happy the fashion industry is kind of falling apart and someone not you know unless you design clothes I love it no it's not the fashion industry is

strong I don't think it is the fashion week here in New York City has been in it's been in shambles shambles tell you what all I know is is that we're pro Heidi here I love Heidi on this channel oh my oh I see you're just trying to make sure of course we are pro Heidi and thank you for having us at your Halloween party no and she dressed as I've been told it's not female Shrek it's Fiona and I love Heidi and she goes into all those characters no I follow her in Instagram she's wonderful but no I think that the fashion week stuff these some of the establishment figures aren't doing as well as they have in the past but Heidi

will always be I mean she's a she's a she is a mega star she's a brand unto herself you would need to buy more magazines to know more about fashion kiss no one buys magazines I just they still do but I just I you know Natalie's very fast so I see that the world is so big this brook not do the deep into the fashion different she does it all she does the Instagrams and the other stuff she goes on the girly stuff I don't know I have no idea what she's up to she's doing something she's doing something yeah absolutely it's plotting she's plotting well everyone is always plotting that's what I have learned not me

man I just react purely I don't know about all I react purely all right everyone thank you all so much for listening is there anything else that we want to say to these wonderful people keep on supporting all the shows here on LP and all the shows are doing great because of you live your dreams no one else is going to laugh your laughs because people want to take them from you and love your loves but ask them first all right you can love them well I you can also like love a muffin or a pizza in which case you can just eat that that's not love though because it goes away love love does go away it turns to shit

yeah but that well that's also pizza doesn't go away you can just get more pizza no but I mean you're just talking about the concept of pizza yes it never goes not an actual physical pizza in front of you it can always I have I just got him rotating through although you just are you are dying yes that's the difference all right everyone thank you all so much for listening hail yourselves hail site maghustalations this show is made possible by listeners like you thanks to our ad sponsors you can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listened to go to last podcastnetwork.com