Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Inside the Bricks & Minifigs Scandal w/ Reckless Ben

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

In this: Side Stories Special Report! Henry sits down with the spearhead behind the Bricks and Minifigs Controversy - Youtuber and Justice Seeker Reckless Ben joins the to discuss how a massive corporation stole thousands of dollars in Legos from an innocent man, his battles in court to find justice for victims, and we find out exactly where things stand in Reckless Ben's battle against Bricks and Minifigs. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last podcast. On the left. Side stories? That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Rumble, young man Rumble.

What we got here is the new sheriff in town when it comes to Legos. And honestly, I'm really happy that you came so hard at this. branch. Will you do any, I don't know if you even understood that you were coming at the Mormon church directly. Yeah, I found that out later. I was surprised I found out they were Mormon because I thought Mormons aren't supposed to like steal and lie, you know?

You'd be surprised. They also fuck little girls. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They, uh, they, uh, they marry super, super young. Yeah. You're right.

They do marry very young. Like 12. They go over to Nevada because it's still legal there. one of my cousins is Mormon and I remember they got married in like their teens I think yeah it's very very young it's so they can have sex with each other in the eyes of the lord and begin cranking out their Mormon army hey they know loopholes too I guess so uh yeah you remember the poophole loophole did you ever deal with that as a child no uh I never I wasn't raised Mormon but um I've heard about it yeah it's not real oh it's not the

No, the poopole loophole is, it's not loophole. You're getting done to the butt. So it's just as invasive. No, it doesn't count. And God doesn't see that as sex. God thinks that's fine. Wow. Yeah.

Well, I'm glad we have that. I'm glad we have that on camera. So what we have here is this guy. I love this fucking guy. You've done such good work with your channel. I've been following you since the McKinney Manor story. And what you did over there was fascinating. I honestly think it was extremely

it was necessary and you're doing it in a very flagrant way but I think that's why they call you reckless Ben Yeah I kind of just like Pull stuff up on the butt and I'm like Maybe this will work out of let's try it you know

And we just try random stuff and just Document the experience that's The whole channel basically just has come with The stupidest ideas we can think of and trying to act them out in real life No but doing it for good you know You know Ben Do you feel that when you, I think that is interesting,

is that you, were you searching for stories like randomly? Or is it really is like something that inspired you? Like, what got you into the whole thing? What started your YouTube channel? So I was living in my car across the street at my friend's house. And he lives across the street from Scientology. And I was going online. So I was like, I wonder what goes on inside.

Like I know all these billionaires pay money to believe in a, alien that a science fiction writer wrote about. So I'm Googling it online. I'm like, what goes on inside Scientology? And like, there's like rumors of what goes on. But I was like, I don't want to believe some rumor. Like, I want to see it for myself. You know, there's all these conspiracies of what goes on inside. But like I just like just like just show me what goes on inside. So then I look, I start watching these like Scientology documentaries. So I'm like, finally if I watch these documentaries, I'll find out what goes on inside. And no other documentaries show what goes on inside. I'm like, what the internet with a million

these guys couldn't figure out what the answer is Scientology. So I was like, you know what? I'm homeless in my car right now, and I can even make a better documentary than all these documentaries. So I call it the world's best Scientology documentary. We made it with a $50 budget, and I was homeless. I had no video experience ever in my life, and I still made a better documentary. We found out all their secrets.

And we're not all their secrets, but we found out a lot of their secrets. It's fascinating because we've also, did you find yourself on the bad end of Scientology? Yeah, they tried to sue me for like a million dollars, I guess. They do that a lot. Yeah, but then I made my own religion called the Church of Scientology sucks. It got approved by the IRS. And now I just believe that everything I'm saying in my documentary is true.

I just believe that Scientology sucks. And so they can't sue me for what I believe in, you know, or else that's discriminating me against my religion. And that's how I got out of that one. Dude, have you thought about getting a law degree with this? You're talking to a lawyer or like, you know, getting a lawyer. Like, you got your lawyers at this point have to be so tired. No, I've never used to a lawyer until like a couple weeks ago, actually.

So everything I've done my entire YouTube career has been without a lawyer. And I think if I had a lawyer, I wouldn't be able to do the stuff I'm doing. Exactly. The, like, two or three times I've ever talked to a lawyer, they're like, that's the worst idea in the world. If you go through with that, you are screwing yourself. And then I end up doing it and ends up like always. working out. So I guess the lawyers have always just been wrong.

Well, you're really, I think you're harnessing obviously is this, I mean, the power of the people. Like you have a, when people watch and have a mandate and are interested in it, and everybody is, I kind of, like, that's kind of what brings us to this story. It's just how many people

are interested in, you know, this level of, it's low level corruption that fucks us every day. Yeah, and if I follow the lawyers advice that I won't get the people on board because then there's not the entertaining story, you know, so at the end of the day, by disobeying the lawyer, I get the people on my side, and by getting the people on my side, then I take down the company. So by disobeying the lawyer, indirectly, it kind of takes down the company. I don't know. It can. It's just, I'm just worried

about you, bro. I don't want you to get yourself into such insane trouble that you can't get yourself out of it. Yeah. Yeah, I always try to write that line, you know, like, how close can I get to, like, crossing that line without actually crossing it? And I feel like I get, like, this far away from crossing the line every single time, which is my favorite thing to do. You know, it's always, like, how close to that line can I get without crossing? I'm like, okay, I've actually screwed myself, you know? But this story, so this story is like, you're just recent video that just came out. It's like already at, like, 5.5 million views. Like, I don't even really want. Oh, yeah, bro.

It's fucking huge. I want you to know, like straight up our audience, go watch the original Reckless Ben videos. If you don't quite know what we're talking about here about the Bricks and Minifig story, go watch Reckless Ben and go through that whole line, then come back. Because I do think it's important for you,

because I don't want to start from zero with you talking about this subject. But you stumbled into, not stumbled, obviously, Brian Mansell approached you, correct? Yeah, well, I put out a feeler. I was like, hey, if anyone has, like, crazy problems that the police can't solve, like, I'll solve it for you, you know?

Yeah. And I probably got, like, 10,000 emails. And that was just one of, like, the 10,000 that received. So it was randomly, do you just chose that randomly? Or was it just, like, one, like, you were going through? And you're like, oh, we'll get to more. And this is the one that came up. Well, he was telling me that this corporation was telling him that if he sues them,

They're going to drag it out in court later. Like, and they're going to use every legal loophole they can in order to, like, basically destroy his, like, dad who's in poor health. And I don't know, it's just that story seemed like super compelling. I was like, I use crazy legal loopholes, you know? So I was like, if they're using crazy legal loopholes for bad and I use crazy legal loopholes for good, this will be the perfect battle, you know? And so that was my thinking going into it. But did you, did you even, did it seem like that? Like when you were entering to this, they would get this extreme.

Um, I don't know. I just tried like 20 or 30 videos all at once. And about half the videos, I would, I thought there was going to be like super extreme. You know, and I show up. And then I'm like, okay, let's take down these bad guys. And it turns out they're like not bad or like there was a misunderstanding or something. So that was about like half the videos. And then, like, this was just one of the ones where it was like, I showed up.

I'm like, okay, let's hear their side. You know, like, let's just go in the store and be nice with them. and within 10 seconds to me be in the stores get out or we're calling the cops like I don't know if you want your Legos back like all the like

they're harassing us and it was so like I tried to give them an opportunity to be the good guys you know and they didn't take it well the audio like they could have I could have just moved on

to a different video like all the other videos you know but they it seems like they wanted me to make a video on this by the way they treated me you know yeah they've they expanded this into this whole almost like a morality

They were giving me, as a YouTuber, they're giving me like the perfect content. Like, that's exactly what I want for a story, you know? Oh, yeah. It seems like by the way they acted, it's almost as if they wanted this to happen, you know? How was the jail when you were in jail? Like, how was it? How was that experience? That was pretty fun.

Yeah, I've never been in jail before, so, um... I like your positive attitude, man. Like, this is awesome. This would be devastating to me. I'm 42 years old. I can't sleep on a cot, man. I'm fucking out. It was a sad because, well, I was only in Utah for like four or five days and we had all these like cool things we wanted to do.

So it was a little sad being like just sitting in a jail for like eight to ten hours just being like, well, I guess I spent all this money on all these props, you know, and I guess I can't do these ideas anymore. So that was sad. But like the actual jail part was like fun. Like it was like a cool experience. Like I just like doing things I've ever done before. Like trying something new every day, you know. So I was like, yeah, something new. I guess if I was in jail for like five or six days

and that would suck because it's like okay now I'm not doing anything new I'm just doing the same thing over that would suck but the fact that I was only there for one day was like perfect you know it was like oh I get to try a new thing and then oh yeah you got your experience something and then leave but it's like did you notice like in your travail and your travels

and all this kind of shit like when you bumped into this sort of like Mormon hand of the police what was the distinct difference like is there a difference between like when you you wandered in this scenario? Like does it,

because to me, Mormon world is its own universe. They don't really like to have us go inside. They don't want us in there. That's how it felt. Yeah, it felt like, oh,

I'm able to verify everything with evidence, but they don't like the fact that I'm here. And I want to say Mormons didn't like the fact that I was here. Everyone happened to be Mormon that didn't like the fact that I was there. Whether or not that's the case or not, I don't know. What I find is that they whitewash quite often when Mormonism is involved because of how much money. I'm also white too, so.

But literally, I think that they cover up when Mormonism is involved in criminality. Like they specifically, I've noticed every single time I've covered cult leaders, murderers, family annihilators that all happen to be Mormon. They always kind of leave that out. And they kind of like, because there's somebody. It's weird. Yeah, which is so weird. because Mormons are supposed to be nice.

And there's actually, it's crazy because a lot of Mormons are actually, I'd say the majority Mormons are on my side actually right now. There was a Mormon protest and I like showed up in disguise. And I was like, how long can I last before people realize who I am, you know? But they did a whole Mormon protest against the police for what they're doing. So, and a bunch of like very nice Mormon showed up who seems very reasonable, you know, that we're like, this is not what Mormonism stands for. And but it was, it is so strange that so many Mormons too, though, are defending this.

Like, uh, I'm, I'm not going to get like too much into details for like privacy reasons, but one of the guys that was at the raid, his, uh, wife might be divorcing him because, like, the Mormon police are against him. And because of that, he must be doing something bad, even though, and she won't even watch the videos because all her Mormon friends are like, don't watch this. This is anti-Morman propaganda, you know? And so they can't even watch my video. And so they might be getting a, he's not Mormon, but she's Mormon.

And so like it seems like they're getting a divorce because of he got arrested by the Mormon police. So because of that, it's like, oh, well, if the Mormon police are against, you must be, you've done something bad. And she's like, well, just watch the video and he'll explain everything. And she's like, why can't? That's anti-Mormon propaganda. And he's like, he's like, no, a bunch of Mormons are actually, like, loving this. Like, look at this Mormon podcast. He was on like, the Mormons are praising this.

and she's still like, no, it's anti-Mormon propaganda. That's kind of funny, though. That's what happens, man. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird how it creates these blinders. I want, so now, so they had created a way out, right? Wasn't there a way out of the situation for a hot second where they were going to try to,

there was some kind of settlement and then the, and then it just not, it didn't happen, correct? There was like, probably at least like 35 to 36 ways out by now. say. Yes. Right now, I am starting to make the ways out slightly harder. So right now their way out is now they have to do the chicken dance. So it's harder than, before it was just give back the Legos. Now it's give back the Legos and do the chicken dance.

I think next month we're going to upgrade it to the American Fork Police has to rename American Fork like reckless Ben Town or something. So each month, we're starting to give them ways out, but each month is just going to get slightly harder and harder. You know, so it's like if you want to get like do that stuff now, It's the easy way. It's just going to get harder and harder the longer they wait, you know. So they put a gag order on you. They've arrested you. They've searched you.

They just stuff. And they are still, we are still at point zero. So they finally took the gag order off. Our lawyers contacted their lawyers and we're basically like, hey, like, if I'm not able to talk, like they told, like, I don't know what you're all to say Netflix, but they said I was in a bomb their building. Yeah, you were, yeah, all full of shit, yeah. And obviously I never said anything like that.

So basically we said, because you lied to get me silenced, that's like super illegal on their part, you know? And they're going to have to be for every day I'm silenced. They're going to pay damages. So like we can report a lot of damage. Like we were going like this. And then the minute my gag order hits, we go like this, you know? So they're technically responsible for every day I'm silenced because they lied to silence me. And we can prove their lies with proof and evidence.

so it's basically a slam dunk case we have against them. And I guess their lawyers after that got super desperate and we're like begging the judge, like, please give them his freedom of speech back. Like we don't want to be responsible for these damages. And so they gave us our, so we revised the restraining order. Basically everything is still in there, just freedom of speech back. So some of it's still kind of bogus. But eventually, you just can't go there anymore, right?

Like you can't go to any brick comming figs. You can't go talk to those guys anymore. Yeah, I can't take a picture of the, I can't, so I can't be 300 feet away, but also can't be 400 feet away and take a picture of their building. So that's also a no-go. There's some other stuff, but at least I can talk about them, which is good. That's like the main thing I wanted back was like just talking about them. So Brandon Best and Josh Johnson, are they still like, they're still the main kind of, what do you say? I'm not going to say villain, but they're the main like source still, right?

of the issues, or are they kind of, are they out of the picture now? Is it all Bricks and Minifix corporate? I don't know. So Bricks and Minifix corporate would hire Josh and Brandon to do what's called franchise churning, which is where you take, have a small business owner, build up a franchise, and then you steal that franchise from them and you take it as your own, you screw them over it, and now we profit a whole like half million dollars or whatever, you know. It's called franchise turning.

And Brandon and Josh were the ones that would go in. and take over the, like do the hostile takeovers is what they call it. So this has happened more than once? Oh, yeah. There's like at least like 10 people who've personally reached out to me, probably more that haven't reached out to me yet. But so Brits and Minifigs has literally done this multiple times in terms of this, this concept of, I've never heard the term franchise churning.

And this isn't proven yet. So I know, I know. You're fine. You're blamed their franchise churning. But the theory is that this is a big part of their business model is having small business owners, build up a business, you steal the business from them, and then you give it out. That's what the theory is right now. Got it.

Hopefully in the fourth episode, we can prove that, I guess. That's what we're working on. So that is, but that's really cool. So when you do stuff like this, so like with your videos and all the kind of stuff, can that actually be used in court after the fact? Yeah, they're using it in court against us, and we're using it in court against them. Got it. They're like, look at all the shenanigans they did.

That's why they should get arrested. and we're saying, look at all the evidence we found. Let's take them down, you know? So where is Brian Mansell now? Like, where is this situation as it stands right now? But I mean, like, in terms of like, where does it stand now, like, in terms of, like, there's still no, there's no. Oh, they're suing them for probably $10 million minimum.

They're suing Brian, too. Well, yeah, because, well, they only got, like, what was that collection worth? Like, the high value could have been up from, like, $150,000 to $200,000. That's not enough money for Bricks and Biff. They need like $10 million from him. You think they're going to stop at $200,000? He has no money. From an innocent man, you think they're going to stop it robbing an innocent man at $200,000?

They need way more than that from innocent people. Tell me about it. I know, I get it. Believe me, I wish I could extricate $2 million from every single vulnerable person. I wish I could, but I don't have God's mandate. Yeah, no, they need way more than that. Like our videos are destroyed. they need as much money as they can from the innocent people they stole from.

Because it's so funny to me because this all comes from the most innocent world of stupid-ass Legos. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think Legos is kind of the front of it. Yeah, sure. I think. Legos are not. I don't think Lego's happy about this. Yeah, probably not.

They haven't made any comments about it, which is crazy. But they're kind of just staying out of everything. I think they have the perfect opportunity to capitalize on it. Actually, I think if they just said that what Bricks and Maphix is doing is wrong, people, this would be a great advertisement for Legos, you know, because now so many people that have never been interested in Legos are now like, interesting. I think this could be like the biggest Lego brand deal ever, you know? Seriously. But they're just choosing not to say anything, which is a little strange, I guess.

Because Bricks and Minifix literally has nothing to do with, with giant, with big Lego. Yeah, it's like GameStop having nothing to do with Nintendo. You know, they just resell Nintendo stuff. So you guys, because I know the last video, so the last video you came out, it's already, like, it's fucking huge. You're already putting out all this, like, evidence. So, like, now, like, do, is the goal now is like, oh, we're going to the fucking end of the end of the end of this? Um, I mean, probably, uh, like, it's, it's been a net positive for me. So why would I quit?

You know, um, it's been a net negative for bricks and mini figs. So I could see why they would want to do the chicken dance and get out of this. But I don't know. I've been told by some pretty high of people that they are never. ever going to do the chicken dance. So it's do the chicken dance or destroy your $400 million company, which one's worse? I don't know. Some pretty people have told me that both options seem equally as bad for bricks and mini figs. It does seem. It does seem bad. Do you have like, do you have people come and do

free legal work for you? No. I have been watching. So actually, well, kind of now. There's a lot of like law channels like legal eagle. Like, um, there's probably, like 10 different law channels that have been covering this. I've been doing a really good job. So I just watched their videos and I feel I can get free legal advice, which is nice. Cool. How do you feel? How do you feel as a dude?

Like, I know you were talking about you've been traveling like crazy and stuff. Like has this changed your day to day from before? No, not really. Before my day would be like I wake up, edit, go to sleep and like film. And then right now I just wake up, and it go to sleep. It's pretty much the same. Got it. I guess I have been, I try to watch like one or two videos right when I wake up just to see

what the new updates are, you know? Sure. Because all those channels kind of like dig in and find stuff that I don't even find, which is awesome. That's so funny. I try to watch like one legal video day and one drama video like right when I wake up, you know? And then, and then besides that, the rest of my day is the same.

Have you tried getting on any other big shows? Are you going to be like, do people want you around? Like, or everyone's afraid. are people afraid of the Mormon church? No, people aren't afraid. I don't know. I've just been, I've been on a lot of podcasts and stuff. A lot of it was on the gag order,

so I couldn't talk about them, but then we just would post it afterwards. But, yeah, I don't know. The Mormons sit on a thing called, what they call their rainy day fund, which is a $100 billion surplus that they sit on. It's for when Jesus comes back, I think. But my question, Ben, is if everybody's dead, why do they need money?

I don't know. I'm not Mormon. I feel like they'd have an answer for you, but I don't know. Why have this money? Why have this money in a post-money world? I feel like the Mormons would love to answer that for you. I don't know. I could just see like the Mormon podcast I was on.

If I answered, they'd be like super excited. Like, I could answer that. I don't know. I haven't studied it. I don't know. You meet any fine Mormon ladies? So we're like, please get me out of this and bring me to California. No, I think they're all pretty happy being Mormon.

I don't know. There was a couple, yeah, there was a bunch of Mormon girls at the protest you were at. But yeah, it seems pretty happy to be Mormon, I guess. Yeah, it's weird, right? Because I do think that in many ways, for a man being a Mormon, it's fantastic. Really? Oh, yes. You get one of the secret things also within the Mormon communities is how if you're a man of a certain standing with a certain family, you just get a job, dude.

You just get, you just walk. They just take care of you. They're super, super, as you can see, they're very concerned about money and making money and building businesses. It's a part of their religious views is the idea of. You think that's why some of them will make like scam businesses because there's like such a high pressure for them to be successful. that if they don't have the skills to be successful, they turn to scams, I guess. I think that you just hit upon a central tenet of the Mormon mind,

which is that exact thing, which is that you have tripped into this. That's so sad. No, it is. It is an entire... Because there's such a pressure for them to be successful that if someone's just like stupid, they can't be successful, they just,

that's like, oh, I have to turn to scamming, you know? Exactly. Because it is about that. there is a celebration of the central patriarch being a businessman, a family leader, a lot of pressure. The woman, unfortunately, is like a passenger. She's kind of kept like a pet that's got to make babies, right? And so on some levels, for ladies, they don't get a lot of say at all.

The men get all the say. They get all the stuff. They essentially get handed a wife and a job and a whole lifestyle. But exactly, if they can't keep up, the rest of them, bury them. Oh, no. All the things are connecting up, because that was my biggest question is, like, why would a Mormon lie in steel?

But now it's kind of making sense. It is about, I do think that that's the idea is that it's order to look powerful to the others. And you have arrived as a young man with this confidence into their very, very controlled world. Dang. Yeah, it definitely didn't like me showing up. serving court papers or making a GoFundMe, that was a no go for them.

I think they have something called a crowd fund meitis, which is what I think they might have. It's basically like the fear of GoFundMe's. And I think they have that in American Fork Police. It sucks as like really rare. Like not many people have like almost like no one has it, you know, but it's weird that like someone in a police department. It's just unfortunate that someone in a police department would have that condition, you know. Well, you know why. It's because they sit on a bunch of commas,

and then they don't like anybody being able to catch up. Yeah. You know, that's what they would like. They don't want you to show up with the ability to defend yourself because they're really used to having total control over the area. And no one goes there. Who the fuck goes to American Fork? Yeah, just a small little neighborhood, yeah.

Yeah, why would you go? It's like everyone knows each other, yeah. Yeah, why would you as a human, where are you, can I, like, are you, are you, L.A., Are you Kelly or New York? Yeah, Los Angeles. Yeah. It's like, also. Yeah, when would you go there?

When would any human? Yeah, LA's also known for like, like, defund the police and like, we're like atheists, you know? And that's like what kind of the stereotype of L.A. So the police officers see like all this defund the police stuff going on in L.A. all these riots and stuff. And they're like, oh, L.A. is probably a bunch of hooligans. Someone from L.A. is going to come and tell our high up Mormon friends how to do business. I don't know.

Yeah. Well, I'm proud, man. I'm proud of you, dude. This is hard. But so now the next steps are, so what are these next? I mean, you were just saying, you're making,

continuing to make videos. You believe that maybe, you don't know, but in your next video, we're going to get to some action. Yeah, so the first and second video were like pretty adventurous,

I'd like to say, and the third video is kind of more like classroom vibes. I like to call it, where you're just kind of like learning facts. You know, it wasn't, I don't know.

I just thought there was a bunch of important information. It was hard to, like, turn it into an adventure. At this point, I was, like, gagged and stuff and restraining orders and trouble. So I was like, I just want to make a video just getting this information out there. And then the fourth video, we're going on another crazy event. I think it's going to be the craziest video in the whole series. I always like to, like, end. It might be the last video.

I don't know. But if they do the right thing, we'll see. If not, we'll just still keep going, which I hope we keep going. but if Brick's so many figs is smart, they'll make this the last video. But I do like to make, like, if you watch for my other series, it's always kind of like,

it's good. And then the last video is always, like, there's always like a video, like, towards the end, which is like an absolute banger. That's what this video, I think this one's going to be the best one of the whole series. This is going to be amazing.

Fuck yeah, I can't wait to see, man. So go check out Reckless Ben, YouTube. It's just Reckless Ben, right? Yeah. As you want to make sure they know that.

Um, I, I support you, bro. I support you from here. Oh, thanks. You have a Satanist fellow in L.A. that will do anything. If you ever need, I'll also say straight up, if you need information about the Mormon church, I can give you quite a bit if you never want to deal with it. If you want to know what the hell you're,

you might be dealing with or if you come across this in the future, because these guys are completely insane. That's the thing about them. No one don't think, don't understand about Mormons. Also, big thing is massively arrogant. Really? Mormons have a It's a Mormon ego

Which is we're above everybody else I definitely felt that Yeah I don't know if all Mormons are like that But the Mormons I dealt with Like the police and the Josh They're like thieves and liars But they still feel like

Oh I'm more important I'm more special than you guys It's like why like shouldn't thieves and liars Be like below that? I don't know Well they're doing it for God It's like guys Because they used to have also

They used to have a blood mandate. So they used to believe there was like a whole section of Mormonism where they believe that if to save your soul they can kill you and absolve you of your sins for it's called blood atonement and that they do it to help you. Dang. Not all of them. That's crazy. But there's a whole chunk of them. There was like a whole um there was a whole line of Mormons and it depends on whether or not, it's real or not. They were considered like the heavy proletariat guard that would do fucked up shit

for the main Mormons. Dang. So I, you know, thankfully, I think where you, truly where you were was very you were in cute, Mormonity, which is good. Yeah, yeah. I think it's good for you. You were in cute, more manatee and they didn't understand, and that's why they're doing

all the legal stuff, you know? Yeah, it's great for footage. I love how insane this has gotten, uh, they just keep like making up lies about me. And I think it's great because I have all the footage to prove my innocence. So I'm not scared at all, you know. It's like funny. That's like why I went to this without a lawyer at first because I was like,

I don't even need a lawyer. Like I have all the footage to prove myself. And then I saw how they were like, oh, we can't even watch the footage. Like we haven't, this footage is like, well, first we didn't watch the footage. I'm like, well, here's the footage. Like, well, even if we do watch it, it's still not credible. I'm like, we haven't even watched it. I'm like, yeah, but we.

And so I'm like, okay, maybe now it's time to get a lawyer involved. So maybe. So I thought it was going to be as easy as, like, I thought the legal system was as easy as like, okay, here's what's being claimed about you. If the evidence shows that's all alive, then you're innocent. That's what I thought. But what they can do is. Yes, because what they can do then is because if they have way more money, they can just push and push and push. The goal is to make it so it never gets to the point where the evidence is presented.

Yeah. What I found out in court is it's not who is right. It's who has more money. That's who wins. Who's innocent and who's guilty doesn't really matter. What matters is who has more money and who has less money. That's what matters in court. Yes.

And do you get access to that GoFundMe or no? So right now it's sitting in a legal trust that Brian set up. So that's all for Brian. Great. Good. And he needs it. He's only going to use. Well, he's very adamant on the fact that he's only once what was wrongfully taken from him.

And once he's made whole, like he doesn't want to profit from this because he has a job. You know, he's doing well from. He only, like he's, I mean, he's not doing like well, but he's, he's doing good, you know. Yeah, he only wants to make. He's fine. You know what I mean? In terms of money, he's okay, you know? He only wants to make what was wrongfully taken from him.

He doesn't want to profit from this. He doesn't want to become famous off of this. He doesn't want to make money off this. He just wants to go back to before this even happened. You know, like the situation he was in before this happened, that's what he wants, you know? Yeah, I get it. I get it because this is, no, any real Mormon doesn't like all this drama. They just want to go back to their last.

They just want to have a nice life. Most people want to have an example. Well, Brian's not Mormon, but... Oh, yeah, he's not Mormon, right? He's just kind of living there. No, he's not even living there. He's in Oregon. Oh, shit.

That's right. They went to Utah. Yeah, he has nothing to do with Mormons or anything. Jesus fucking, poor guy. He's just a dude. Jesus Christ. Well, I wish you luck, man. And we're going to be following the story,

and we're going to be following the fourth episode. We're going to be talking about it. And I'd love to have you back at any time. to talk shit, man. Yeah, next time I'll be more than on three hours of sleep, just waking up. Normally it's the opposite. I feel like this is like the highest energy podcast I've been on, and I'm like the lowest energy I've ever been on. Normally it's like, I'm the high energy person and everyone else is just like super chill.

Like, so what happened with these Mormons? And I'm like, ah! And I feel like the roles are reversed on this podcast. It's kind of funny. That's my job. I'm just filled with rage. Okay, Ben. I'm just filled with the power of pure.

Ridge, pure 42-year-old man, Ridge. And you'll get there. And when you feel this anger, God help you. God fucking help you, young man. Because when you're here, you better be ready. That's why I'm now. I'm deadlifting. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I can punch.

My goal is to attack. Deadlifting is with your feet. You can kick with the dead lifts, right? I can jump. Yeah. You can jump on top of them. Yeah. That's my goal. Get on the shoulders. Actually, I don't know. I heard like leg day is actually the most important for your upper body. too because it builds the most testosterone.

So if you want your upper body, you look big, don't skip leg day, is what I heard actually. And that is one of the best pieces of advice I've heard all day. And you could take that to put it because it's true because I love leg day now. I love it. Yeah, no, it actually makes your upper, it builds testosterone, which then in like indirectly helps your upper body too.

No, I'm more manly than I've ever been. I'm rock hard right now. Oh, nice. That's just because I love podcasting. And I just want to say, reckless man, man. Thank you so fucking much for talking to me, dude. And we are going to be covering this.

Oh, nice. Sweet. Thanks for having me on. This is sick. Of course. Thank you. Hell Satan. God bless.