Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Lady of the Dunes

Episode Date: August 16, 2018

Ben and Henry are back with some good old-fashioned chat. Real wholesome like. We even heard that listening to Side Stories is good for your bone and joint health*. Triple L. Topics this week: Ghost babies, plane theft, and more. *This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk. On the left. Right above your gliss. That's when the cannibalism started. What was that? Alright. So what was- Kissel, you had a working theory about what makes a child more attractive?

You said that it's confidence that makes her come strong? What are you talking about? Oh my goodness. Lies. I don't know if that's true. I just don't know if it's true. It seems like if you have a decades and decades worth of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, we're not talking about each other.

We're talking about, technically we're talking about Stephen King, but if it would affect the looks of your children. I'm not a scientist. No. Alright, welcome to Side Stories, everyone. I am Ben Kissel. That's Henry Zabrowski. Yes.

How you doing? Yes, it is. And I am in- I'm good, man. I'm fucking- I'm in Steel City, baby. I'm in Pennsylvania, you're in Pittsburgh, that means you're a yinzer. That's what they call about there. What I like here is that the Pittsburgh salad is a pile of french fries with lettuce wrapped around it. Ooh, that's good.

It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Not bad. Kissel, I've been meaning to approach this subject. Okay. Okay. I don't mean to sandbag this with you. I don't mean to do what's- to got your journalism.

Mm-hmm. Because I don't want to do that to you, alright? Right, I feel like you're about to do that though. No. It seems like you're setting up to do exactly what you just said you didn't want to do. No, no, no, listen. Alright, I've been hearing other shows do this thing called vulnerability. Oh.

Okay. And I've heard that other shows that people like open up, because our show is about us as us. It's like talking, just jabbing, jabbering as friends, being friends, chit chat. Sure. It's like the chew. This show is like the last podcast version of the chew. Right. Yeah, sure.

We need a cooking segment, I think. Yeah, which I have done already. We did it with the Patreon interview this week. I turned it into a cooking section. Yeah, check out the Patreon interview. Great Patreon interview this week. All about Krampus, of course, the evil character during Christmas. Not in evil Santa Claus, but check out the Patreon interview.

You say evil, but I say technically on the right side of history and what we probably need in this country this day. Do- kissle. Sure. If that's not a hot topic, I don't know what it is. Alright. I got your question. What is this? Be vulnerable.

I am. I'm always vulnerable. I'm king vulnerable. I'm saying this is your moment to say something vulnerable. Oh, I'm just supposed to present something vulnerable. I'm just going to say something about your fears. Well, you know, I fear- Did you throw up a lot as a teenager?

No, I did not throw up a lot as a teenager. I have a growing fear of flying. That's really starting to stress me out quite a bit. It really is because we have to fly a lot more. Yeah, we fly a lot more. I'm too big to do it. I think my weight alone will tip over the- Like that man that we're going to cover here who stole that plane in Seattle.

I think the plane is going to go upside down and inevitably end up crashing in the woods somewhere. That's a fear. Fear of being alone. Fear of no longer being loved. Those kinds of things. That's basically it. Okay, good. Good, good, good, good start.

Yeah, why do we have to do that? We're bumping our numbers. So listen to me. Oh, we're bumping the numbers. This is what we're doing. By the way, okay, what's your vulnerability? This is what we're supposed to do? Yes.

Is this good content? I think so. My vulnerability? I work too hard. Oh my God. Oh, yes. I think that's- All right.

Well, we've got a bunch of fun stories to get to despite what Henry is- What? I'm just going to say he's a bit of a prick, ladies and gentlemen. Just between me and you in the audience. Just between me and the audience. All right. I want to talk about this story. Henry, I'm going to read this first story here.

This is about a woman and her name is Amethyst Realm. Okay. And she says- I don't know if that's her birth name or not, or if that's just given to her by a wizard or something. It's not. Okay. And she says that she is in a serious sexual relationship with a ghost.

They met in Australia and they want to have kids together. Great. So isn't that exciting? Little ghost children. I will say, because Casper could come sliding out and wouldn't that be the cutest thing on the face of the planet? Well, what is a ghost- Is it just a little poof out there?

I think- Because that has a different term. It's a quiff. Yes. That's what you said yesterday. We were talking about it. Yeah, it's a little quiff. Yeah, it's a little-

I keep it nice and PG. Yes, yes. Now, I wonder- What are the details? So how did she- All right, so this girl- How did she- Like, what does this even mean?

I don't know, maybe it's like a ghost version of Tinder or something like that. So she claims she has sex with ghosts and she is now revealed she finally is in a serious relationship with one of them. So I think she kind of slept around the ghost community. We're not shaming her. Reputed- Not shaming. I don't give a crap what you do.

So she slept around the ghost community and she found the ghost, I suppose D, that she liked the most and she is ready finally to settle down. In the amethyst realm, she hit the headlines last year when she revealed that she has slept with 15 ghosts since breaking up with her fiance 12 years ago. So perhaps she's not quite over the breakup. I guess if you're the fiance, you're like, I don't know what happened. Maybe just try to get back together with her. Well, the one thing that's nice is always like when someone, like the one thing that

always feels good is that if you're boyfriend or girlfriend of your breakup, if they end up like marrying or in a super long-term relationship with the person that they leave you for great, then that's fine. The problem with having sex with ghosts is number one, I can't see it or hear it, right? She just writhing around on a bed just going like, and then like, and then she just feigns having the thing come and she just so horny that she can come from the air. I guess so. I think it's easier for a gal to have intercourse with a ghost.

That's just speculation. Feel free to DM me on Instagram if you think it's not easier. I just feel like if you're a guy, you got nothing. You got no friction in there. But if you're a gal, you got the emotions, you sense the ghost. We've all seen what, what was the name of that film with Patrick Swayze. I think it was called Ghost or something like that. Yes, yes, it's called Ghost.

And that was, okay, but that was very romantic. So the ladies, they think about Patrick Swayze. They think about working on clay pots. They think, oh, I can put a flower in that pot when I'm done with the sexual, uh, you know, kind of situation there. You have to be. So perhaps it works out. You just have to be the horniest woman in the world.

I mean, like, I'll put it this way. There was a or broken. There was a point I want to say around 2223. Now this is much the chagrin of my fiance or maybe my family 2223. I could make myself come to orgasm without touching my penis, right? Cause I was so gripped with it, gripped with the spirit of horniness. Listen to me. All right.

I'm just going to speculate though. Your belly was quite large. I could have rubbed the tip. I think there was a constant rub. Yeah. Yeah. I could have rubbed the tip against my own. But it is a problem that you dealt with and it's possible.

But if I was to say have at that point changed my name to Ruby pants general or, um, Mr. Pearls, right? I could have said at that point that I was having sex with the coast. Um, and it makes fun. I think a woman, let me actually, um, I mean, my fiance's in the room, Natalie, can a woman come from the air? We're going to get some opinions here coming in from Natalie without, without, oh, and the answer is they're no longer getting married.

She's leaving. She's packing her bags and she's walking out of the hotel room. No, she says. Okay. She says that if a woman catches the proper jet stream, but that's a ghost. That is a ghost. So they want, so unlike flying the plane, you want to hit some turbulence and then it all works out.

I get, I don't know. So anyway, this woman, she decided to take things out of all the 15 ghosts she found, one that she loves, and she decided to take things to the next level and is in quote unquote a pretty serious relationship with this ghost. The ghost who amethyst can't see, but believe she can communicate and have sex with has now returned with her to the UK and the relationship is progressing. I don't know. Do you buy it a plane ticket?

Does it need a seat? No. I don't know. I don't understand how you travel with a ghost or does it just fly along the plane alongside it? I guess, I mean, she's obviously, uh, somewhere between in desperate need for attention slash mentally ill, and it could be both, right? But I also wonder, like, I'm going to try and put my believer's cap on that I do every

once in a while and imagine she does have this weird type of entity. I'm imagining an Idris Alba that is following her around, right? Like that type of ghost. But my thing is, is that in the very, like, I guess if you do believe you could have a child with it, if you believe that that is possible, like you're doing some kind of magic working, like there is something along the idea of, like, what L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons did in order to bring about the Babylon working where the woman would come that would host the Antichrist, but at some point that woman would need to be real, like you would

still need the vessel. So, what I imagine is going to happen is, is that some man is going to show up. If a man is smart enough to, because you're not like any poker, it's a bluff is all about timing. Sure. So, I think a bluff is also a good name for a ghost baby. Call it a bluff. I don't know why, but if a man, a man right now, I'm going to just put this out here in

the universe. If you're listening to this and you're in the UK, if you find that this amethyst Ruby woman, amethyst realm woman, realm, is attractive, she is very pretty, very pretty. You show up at her apartment in a colonial dress, right? You're from Australia. You put on an Australian accent. It's like the ghost of Christmas past. Yes.

All right. And you show up at the house being like, Australian accent, being like, uh, uh, shrimps and a Bobby. Oh, hey there. That's bad. That's horrible. Australian. Yeah, earlier.

Oh, I'm the ghost you been fucking, right? You show up. You're just equivalent of an outbacked steakhouse when it comes to being authentically Australian. Yeah. You put on some shrimps and a barbie and you go out there. What is that? Is that a Midwestern or mixed with an Irish person who just happens to be hammered? I don't know what it is.

In order to do Australian, honestly, even on the show, in order for me to do Australian, I have to work up to it for about 20 minutes before the show to even practice and not even think of doing this accent. So what I would say is you show up and you tell her you're the physical version of this ghost and you start fucking her and she'll have a baby. I guess. And then the best part is that you could just disappear. I suppose.

Yeah, you could literally, you could literally ghost her and then she'd be like, that's my guy. Um, this is what she told an Australian website and the name of the website is new idea. So the name of the Australian website is new idea. She said when it comes to the meeting of the ghost, how did you meet the ghost? Perhaps the questionnaire asked, she says one day while I was walking through the bush, I guess that's an Australian term for, I guess bush, um, enjoying nature. I suddenly felt this incredible energy.

I knew a new lover had arrived. She went on to say it's pretty serious. In fact, we've even been thinking about having a ghost baby. That's her words. I know that sounds crazy, but I've been looking into it and I don't think it's totally out of the question. So it is getting serious there. Maybe we'll have to have a ghost, morey, povich episode, figure out which one of these ghosts

is the father. There's 15 of them. Perhaps there's a competition. I don't know. Wait a second. My ghost baby. Uh-huh. It's got Asian face.

Oh, but cheated upon. Oh, my God. Oh, super secret. Cheated upon. Is that all? I don't, that's cockney. Cheated upon. Oh, no.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Somebody went to, he's trying to slip his wick into me there, and so now he's jumped out, slipped a wick in there, misslip, a bit of a misslip. All right. Yeah. A regular Heath Ledger over there. Uh, she believes the fint of pregnancies are actually ghost babies, claiming they don't

go to term because the human body and the mind can't process them. So that's why she's not taking these ghost pregnancies to term. And last year, Amethyst appeared on This Morning to talk about the fact that she left her fiance after he caught her having an affair with a spirit. So she left the fiance because she was having an affair with a ghost. How can you? Can you imagine that losing your girlfriend to a ghost? How boring does that guy have to be?

Number one, it would be on brand for me. Number two, you dodged a bullet. I guess so. At this point, if you have to, honestly though, Kissel, like we shifted to like out of just like we're funny brain, like your real life. If Brooke showed up one day, right, you come in with Puffin, you've had a long day, Huffin back and forth, you've been yelling, you know what I mean, you're covered in sweat. That's me right now.

Yes. Yes. You show me the living room. Brooke is like, we have to talk and you sit down with her and she's like, I have something to tell you something honest and you're like, get on with that because, you know, that's how it always starts. Well, impatient. Sure.

Yes. And she's like, I had sex with a ghost last night and I think I have feelings for this ghost. Right. What would you, I mean, you'd just leave. You'd be like, oh, you roll it in, roll it in, make it part of the family. Puffin, Ben, Brooke and the ghost. It's a sitcom.

And then at some point we'll have to adopt a ghost when, you know, the episodes start to kind of fall flat a little bit. I mean, you know, whatever makes her happy. She told him, this is what, this is what Ms. Realm says. She said, I couldn't, I could imagine you've got quite a name for yourself in the spirit world. That was the question. He asked her earlier when she had her first sexual encounter with a ghost.

She said, it was 12 years ago. I was living with my fiance. He was working away a lot and that's when she started to feel the presence. And that's exactly what happened to this guy. What Henry just described in theory, or in a, in a, you know, in a, in a parable. What broke, if Brooke broke up with me, that's exactly what happened. She said she's gone off men completely and has had sexual relationships with 14 ghosts, but asked if she would feel that way forever.

And then someday she wants children. She says she believes she can get pregnant by having sex with a ghost. So we'll see what happens. We'll follow the story. I honestly feel like there's going to be so many like retweets of this story with like hashtag me, like hashtag goals. You know what I mean? Like I feel like there's going to be a lot of that.

I do understand it. I feel like the, the dude kind of dodged a bullet here. Right. I think she's got a lot of stuff to work out. I think that this got a lot to do with resentment of the fact that he was traveling a lot for work. And he was a ghost. Yeah.

And I guess he literally was a ghost to her in the house. And she's like, you better be careful because when you're going, I'm going to be having sex with a ghost there. And he's just like, do whatever you want. All right. I'm in the kangaroo hard of seeing business. I don't know. I don't know what he's doing.

He could be out there. God knows what he's doing. All right. And he's just trying to make, he's just trying to bring the shrimps home to put on the Barbie. Right. And so he absolutely. You have a great understanding of the Australian people of love, romance, all worked out. I do.

I would love to see this like deleted scene in love, actually, where one of the characters has a ghost relationship. But to end this, to wrap this up, the interviewer did ask if the ghost sex ends in orgasm and the amethyst says, for me, yes, which I think means that the ghost is ghost blue balls. But she said, for me, yes, but the ghost, I guess, isn't, maybe that's why she's not getting pregnant. I don't know. Anyway, that's amethyst realm.

The fucking, the ghost is like, oh, oh, oh, and you know, she's like, I'm going, I'm going. And he's just like, oh, yeah, I'm, I'm closest, but I'm close to think, I'm having one. And then she's like, ah, just rolls over, starts making a sandwich. And then he's just saying, they've been like, wouldn't it be nice if both of us could orgasm? You've got kind of a cuckold situation, maybe. All right. So that's that story.

Let us know. DM me on Instagram at Benkitsa1. Have you, baby, had a relationship with a ghost? Let's hear your thoughts on that. Well, I will say, I'm really glad we started with a serious story so that we could really segue properly into the story of this man who stole horizon, horizon airplane from Seattle airport this weekend, crash into an island. It is, it's horrifying just simply because it can be done.

It seemed to be done relatively simply. This dude who hijacked it, Richard Russell, like that name, Richard Russell. He was 29 years old. He ended up stealing this plane. He worked for Horizon Air. He handled the luggage and towing aircraft and things like that. Yeah, he did. He had the cones.

He's the one who directed them into position. Which you know, that's always what, you know, all the TSA stuff, Henry, maybe you'll agree with me. I'm like, it's someone on the inside. That's who scares me the most. No one's traveling. They want to get from point A to point B and do whatever they got to do whenever they get there.

It's someone on the inside who's a disgruntled worker. That's who's going to end up doing something bad. TSA, more like the theater of security that they do each day. I know for a fact when I was stripped, because Delta forgot to put my pre-check on my flight and I forgot about it. It's been a really long time. It's been like two years since I've had to go through normal security all of a sudden I'm going through.

I'm taking off my pants. They're all, they're sucking on my feet. I was like, why are we doing this? But no, this is pretty intense. The man referred to as Richard by air traffic controllers and tense recordings. They just said, he said to them, he's just a broken guy. And then he, so basically he took this plane up, which he apparently learned how to do from video games, doing flights because, which is very interesting that you could just do

it because I thought it was way more technical than that. I saw the, you see the cockpit and I think on a bigger plane it is, but I know for a fact I've heard pilots say this is that, and obviously connect, correct me if I'm wrong, is that the one parts where the pilots have total control of the plane are takeoff and landing. Right. That's it. The rest of it is done by machine, by computers.

It's all autopilot and that's what happened in that one flight, that plane that crashed in Buffalo a couple of years ago, it got a licey because they did it on autopilot the whole time and they're like click, click, click, when it was time to land and the whole plane was frozen. So I don't even know, like I feel bad for pilots that really like to fly because they just mostly sit there, like any other passenger, eating egg sandwiches and stuff. Honestly, it's the best seat in the house. I guess so.

I think it's wonderful. I think it's a fantastic job. You're in there, like you're hanging around, you got that cool uniform, you get to drink for free at the airplane bar, you can have two or three before you get on that plane, just keep yourself loose. Yeah, maybe. But so he took the plane up, he did some pretty harrowing of like maneuvers. Right.

He was beginning, he was doing a lot of 360s, he was doing a deep dive, pulling it up. I'm actually very surprised he didn't pass out and they had to scramble jets because of the ongoing mission, basically this thing called Noble Eagle, which is a way they jump into action as soon as something like this happened. So he had jets fucking tailing him everywhere, ready to blow him out of the sky. But he was like, he went and he fueled the plane for going because he said he wanted to go check out the Olympics, which is the Olympic mountains, and that they eventually, what he was, they were talking and asking him for like, you know, hey, buddy, what's

got, you know, like, you're going to want to bring that plane down soon. I mean, how does that go, just like, hey, so we see you in the plane, like, well, what's going on, bud? What's going on, buddy? What's up? What's up with you, buddy? Now it's a bit tense about it, but you kind of have one of her planes there. And he said, he asked for the coordinates to the killer whale that there's currently

a killer whale shepherding her dead calf through Washington coastal waters for nearly three weeks. It was, I guess it was shown on the news and he's like, you know, the mama orca with the baby, I want to go see that guy. Really? Well, then why wouldn't he hijack a boat? It's a plane. And what we have here is some actual recording of Rich talking to the air traffic control.

So I think it's about two minutes long. All right. So there's a lot of people that care about me and it's going to disappoint them to hear that I did this. I would like to apologize to each and every one of them, just a broken guy, got a few screws loose, I guess, never really knew it until now. There is the runway just off your right side and about a mile. Can you see that?

That's the McCord field. Oh man, those guys will rough me up if I try to land in there. I think I might mess something up there too. I wouldn't want to do that. Hopefully. Oh, they probably got anti-aircraft. No, they don't have any of that stuff. We're just trying to find a place for you to land safely.

Yeah, not quite ready to bring it down just yet, but holy smokes. I've got to stop looking at the field because it's going down quick. This is probably jail time for life, huh? I would hope it is for a guy like me. Very good. I don't need that much help. I've played some video games before. I would like to figure out how to get this cabin altitude.

I know where the box is. I would like to make it pressurized or something so I'm not so lightheaded. I just want you to whisper sweet nothings into my ear. Hey, you think about laying this successfully? The lab will give me a job as a pilot? If you wanted to try, that might be the best way to set up and see if you can land there. Or just like the pilot suggests, another option would be overpuget sound into the water. Dang, did you talk to McCord yet?

Because I don't think I'd be happy with you telling me I could land like that because I could mess some stuff up. Well, Richard, you talked to him and just like me, what we want to see is do you not get hurt or anybody else get hurt? Hey, I want the coordinates of that orca with the, you know, the mama orca with the baby. I want to go see that guy. Put him in the ground. All right. Damn it. I don't know, man.

I don't know. I don't want to. I was kind of hoping that was going to be it, you know? I'm going to land it. It's like a safe, safe kind of manner. I think I'm going to try to do a barrel roll. And if that goes good, I'll just go nose down and call it a night. Oh, wow.

All right. Well, that is, he is like John Belushi in 1942, that very bad movie that was the follow-up to Animal House that no one really watched. Not the follow-up to Animal House for the second film. But that was, that was crazy. But after listening to the recording, it makes me kind of sad because he seemed like a kind of a normal, fun guy that kind, that some reason came to the edge. And like, what a shame that he couldn't have figured out how to speak to somebody before it got to that point. Like, I think we, I mean, we talk about it in the show all the time. If you're feeling crazy thoughts, these weird sort of impulse control thoughts, like it's going to reach out to somebody and say, hey, what if I took one of these planes tomorrow?

And so your body can be like, let's not do that. Yes. Maybe that's a bad idea. He seemed like a jovial dude, but obviously totally out of step with the seriousness of the situation on account that he just stole the plane. And an impulse, I understand lack of impulse control, but my God, once you get a plane up in the air, that's really, that's not a good thing. Honestly, from him saying, I kind of thought that this would be it, I legitimately think that he, it was a suicide attempt. And he didn't realize, he didn't really realize it until he was doing it. Right.

And then you have all these kind of like long drawn out thoughts. I'm certain that this, this story will be gone through. I don't know if he left any letters or if he talked with anybody about why he did it. I'm really thankful that he didn't kill a bunch of other people. Oh, absolutely. But I feel like a part of it, it's like, man, it can also just show you. But then again, like whatever security measures you have, there's really not a lot you can do to sort of hold back the human spirit if they want to create a bunch of fucking mayhem. Yeah.

That's just kind of part and parcel. No. For what it is. That to me is the scariest part of all this. Like it was, I think it was a little too easy. I'm just going to say it was too easy for this guy to steal a plane. I think that is the case. I don't even know.

Don't you have keys or something? Like, how do you start these things? I mean, there's a social contract that states, hey, don't throw, don't fly planes into things. Like this idea of like, it's like we have cars on the highway. We're a part of the kind of the thing that we all agree to is that I'm not going to jerk the wheel into oncoming traffic. Yes, I think about it every 15 minutes. You do. My therapist calls that intrusive thoughts.

Right. It's the whole point of that. It's like it is a purposeful thought that your brain does just to kind of be like, are you crazy? And it's like, I'm not that kind of crazy. I'm just the kind of crazy that needs two or three scotches to go to sleep. That's totally normal. You're just, you're a 1940s detective kind of crazy, you know, stressed out. I'm stressed out.

I'm on the hunt for the truth. Sure. And guess what? Where the truth doesn't lie in my dreams. Yeah. And in sobriety, apparently. The also thing, you know what else is funny about the human mind, Henry? You know what it is?

What? Cute, like puffin. Or the human brain says, I want to squeeze it and I want to kill it. That's an actual phenomenon. The human mind is like, if it sees something super cute, for some reason with a primal desire to kill it. I don't know why. Is it just because it's too, we're afraid for it. We're afraid for its own life.

It's like we've been taking Wendy through downtown Pittsburgh and it's like, and she's just so like, like little tiny dog in the big city, but she wouldn't make it. No. If she was on her own, you know, she seems to like the beach though. No. She does not. She does not. She likes the sand.

Ah. But she is very, very scared of the lake. Well, yeah, that's why I said the beach is the sand. The lake is the water. For me, a beach is a combination of water and sand because sand is just desert. All right. If it's just sand, it's just a desert. And I will fight you to the fucking death over this conversation.

If this is, if this how it's gotta go, if this is how our friendship has to end, I'm willing to let it end like this. All right. So that's the point where, where the water meets the sand. That is where we draw the line. And we will fight ourselves. We will fight to the death. Also, I want to talk about this story. Henry, this story is Joe Hill.

He's the son of Stephen King and he is a looker. He looks a lot like Stephen King after a lot of Coke or something. But anyway, he's a great guy. Very lock and key is a great graphic novel. And you like all of his books. This Joe Hill guy. I've legitimately read the majority of his books. I've read 20th century ghost roles.

Heart shaped box rules kept me up at night. I loved, what was it? Not, you know, if it was the other one. It was Joe Hill books. It was the one where everything was on fire. It was the fireman. That one was very interesting, very closer to his father's work. I'm about to start working on strange weather once I'm done reading the three body problem,

which I'm currently in the middle of the third book. Jeez. You know this guy, I'm just going to say he writes a lot. So he wrote an article. He has a theory. Yes, he does. He's a professional author. That's what they do.

They have to do it. You know that his middle name is Hillstrom. That's where it comes from. His full name is Joseph Hillstrom King. So I guess that's why you went as Joe Hill, huh? I guess so. Interesting. He could have gone by Joe Hillstrom, I suppose.

It sounds like a last name, not a middle name. I don't think that is a name. But okay. Good for him. So anyway, there is a, this is the title of this article. The true story behind wild theory that Jaws, the film Jaws, could identify a woman found almost beheaded near the beach. So this is this really tragic story from 1974.

The woman is called the Lady in the Dunes. She was nearly decapitated, nearly decapitated. Both of her wrists were cut off when she was discovered. And she was, her hands were replaced with sticks and with needles, pine needles and things. And this is still completely unsolved. She had a blue bandana tucked underneath her head. And her wrangler jeans were folded up like a pillow,

still unsolved after over 50 years here, 1974. And Joe Hill thinks this woman may have been an extra in the film Jaws. If you pause it, I believe it's at 54 minutes and two seconds. I think that's when it is. You see a woman wearing, yeah, 54 minutes and two seconds into the film. You see a woman wearing the same blue bandana. She looks very close with the brunette hair. However, she does have different jeans on,

but this isn't being totally discredited by people who have studied this. Investigators who have studied this over the years, they say any evidence is possibly true. So they say this could be right. It is a very interesting theory. And the FBI said when he spoke with the FBI about it, we're like, well, honestly, we have broken things on less than this. Yes.

So they're going to start trying to pull through it, because it's a very scary case. Totally. Or it's just like a woman essentially just left and very intrudetective style placed. Because what do we know from true detective and what have we learned from Silence of the Lambs and shit like that is that they wanted her to be seen.

Right. It's a statement. It's supposed to be, this is my version of a Joe Hill book. Right. Except I'm doing this instead of spending years of doing cocaine. Yes. And working in a basement. Right.

Well, the interesting thing is they say that she was most likely killed elsewhere. She was found 100 miles away from where the beach scene that was shot was shot. And so they say that she was killed elsewhere and brought there. As Henry just said, it is almost like an art exhibit. Which I mean, you wonder, did this person kill more people? I mean, this is like out of the movie seven or something. It's horrifying to think about. Well, hopefully this is the kind of the weird ass thing that breaks it.

That all of a sudden it's this very random occurrence. Because I always find that very interesting. How many times do we see in serial killer cases that weird little bits of random information or the thing that breaks it that ends up like catching the guy we recently saw with, what's his name? The, with Michelle McNamara's book. Yes. Golden State Killer.

Yeah, the Golden State Killer. Right. Yes, absolutely. So this is, according to Hill, he wrote this. This is in a blog post. He said, it would be no surprise at all if a girl summering at, it would be no surprise at all if a girl summering on the cape decided to take a few days to explore the vineyard, especially with the added bait of celebrity to draw her in.

He goes on to say, you know, this is according to the FBI agent rather who read Hill's blog. He said, you know, it might be worth going forward with your theory. There might be something in it. Odder ideas have cracked colder cases. So who the hell knows? But either way, it would be nice if they could get some closure there. Yeah. As long as like, I just can't have another beloved star taken from me.

And if this is Richard Dreyfus, I am going to be beside myself. Okay. Because I know he's a jerk off. No. Wow. Wow. I know his son, his son is a nice guy. I don't know.

So this is again, according to the little blog, he said, two Estonian things happened on the Cape in the summer of 1974. One is that Steven Spielberg filmed Jaws. And the other is that someone murdered this woman in the dunes outside province, province town and got away with it. Anything that stirs people's memories could potentially be productive. I believe that was according, yes, that was a, that was Hill. So it's interesting.

Except if it's every teamster in the world and every set that's ever been has been like, Yeah, I remember. She had a nice bottom, right, Joey? And they all used to be smoking cigarettes, but now it's vape. Yes, that's true. I mean, I will say though, I love the crew. You got to love the crew. They're always the best teamsters.

I love teamsters. Love them. Please don't. We're in the middle of Iceman. Okay. I don't want to piss off the teamsters. They know what happens. I love the teamsters.

Transpose incredibly important and they need their breaks. I don't care what anybody says. They have to have those breaks once an hour for 15 minutes of that hour. Right. And this lady, she's five foot six or five foot 10 or five, five, six to five, eight, 150 pounds. She was found by a young gal who was walking her beagle. Once again, I don't even know if I'm going to take Puffin out for walks anymore.

It just seems like nothing good ever happens when you go on these journeys. You do take Puffin out quite a bit, which I think is really nice. I do. Yes. He loves to be outside. Yeah. He's being outside. It's nice, but he's going to find a hand.

He's got that cute little face, too, where he's going to have those big eyes. You know, you're going to look over and you're like, oh, Puffin, what you got there, buddy? And then he's going to be like, it's going to be a severed penis in his hand. And he's like, oh my God. It'll be great for the show though. Yes. That reminds me of our Iceman episodes. He's like, who, Klinsky, he is, oh, stay tuned for part three.

I think it gets more, uh, more disgusting from here. Um, there's a lot of, there's a lot more ball torture. Yeah. He, I mean, I was thinking about this again yesterday, just obsessed, obsessed with the ball torture. I just don't, you know, I would say leave it alone, but that's just me. Well, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, but Kissel, you're trying to make people feel pain. Yeah. I know that you're going for it. That's what my father always said is that if you're in your fight, he's like, it does it make you a pussy to punch the guy in the balls? But it kind of does. He's like, you got to go for the balls. You got to mess with the balls.

You got to pinch on him. You got to suck on him a little bit to freak him out. You know, like nothing freaks the guy out in the middle of a fight more than you just start sucking his dick. Yeah. Like he gets really upset or, or he's just like, you know, you open him up. Yeah. And he starts crying.

Sure. Thinking about his whole past. He doesn't know where he's coming from, where he's going. He doesn't know what he's got to change. He doesn't know what he's got to tell his wife. Yeah. I think that episode, I think it's the UFC reality show ultimate fighter. If a trainer was just a very, it was a very special trader who's just like, what you got

to do? Get down and just start, you know, fallacious. You got to weaponize love. Right. Right. That's what it's about. I wanted to talk a little bit briefly. I mean, like we're going to be closing out the show here pretty soon.

I'm just going to say this. If you want to pop, pop open a pretty decent size rabbit hole for yourself and be able to get lost in it and make yourself kind of alienate your family a little bit, which I like to do every once in a while just to show that I still can. Sure. The death of Max Spears. This was a guy recently. So the reason why they pop back up on the news is that Max Spears was a ufologist slash

conspiracy theorist from Britain who was recently in 2016 was found in Poland sleeping on the bed of a, on the couch of what may or may not have been his girlfriend who was a reporter named Monica Duvall from Poland. Wait a second. May or may not have been his girlfriend. Isn't that something that they would like, are you his girlfriend or are you not his girlfriend? And she was like, I don't know.

Okay. And so they, they went and basically he was found vomiting up black fluid out of his mouth like two liters of black fluid and he died. And a couple of weeks ago, the Polish police force issued back his, his computers and phone back to his family and they were wiped clean. Now this is obviously an opportunity to make a joke about the Polish police force. But it is also highly strange because a part of what Max's Max Spears job was, I mean like obviously you could say he's full of shit, but then you'd stop the rabbit hole.

He said he was a part of a thing called Project Mannequin. Now this is where the rabbit hole is. Project Mannequin was the UK's version of MKUltra. I have not done the full research into it yet to find out if it was real or not. But essentially the story was broken by a man named James Casbolt in the early 2000s where he said that as a boy, because of specific abilities that he had, it's a little baby boy and because his family was connected to the Illuminati, he was brought to the UK's version of Area 51 AL 499 and he was trained to do things like create control sound waves with his brain

in order to manipulate people. He could use a super soldier and that Max Spears says that he was a part of the same problem. Now he was part of the same program. Now he says that when you hit 30, the problem is that once you hit 30, your programming starts breaking down, you start remembering your memories. Like someone who is like a child star in the Disney Channel. Yes, exactly. All of a sudden you're like, I remember every producer.

And then all of a sudden you get to tell everybody. Leave Brittany alone. It's just nice that our brain saves us like that. Number one, thank you brain. But Max Spears, this is just a tiny scratch of the surface. Because there are many things involved here. Because Max Spears seemed to have a lot of problems with opiates. His last interview, which was put up a couple of days after his death, is unfortunate.

It is him slurring, completely incoherent. He says he was under psychic attack, but I think that he was under psychic attack from himself, from the heroin he was using, but I don't know. That's what he says. On a scale of Jesse Camp, the former MTV VJ, or Boy George, when he was giving the interview, high on heroin, and then he kept on falling asleep on the ballpoint pen. And then at the end of it, he had all these little markings. Like he was some kind of astrological.

Like he was some kind of, what do you call that? Like a star map. Anyway, what was he like? Jesse Camp to Boy George. I put him between the two with, I would include them in that, with a George H. Bush, first Bush, George Bush senior, passing out in the lap of the Japanese Emperor. Oh, okay, yes. I would put him in there.

Yes, I would put him in there. That is a 90s reference. Yes, everyone gets it. For those of you that are very young. But also the problem with James, the problem with James Casbolt is that recently he's been put in jail for 12 years for harassing his former girlfriend, saying that he was going to kill her old family, blackmail her old family, unless they gave him $2 million. And then it found out that he had been stalking many, many women online

by creating these fake personas and harassing them. One of them being, he became known as not as the slender man, but the slender spaceman. And he started harassing people online and on his blog for some reason, he kept terrifying her, creating a fake account called the slender man and pranking her through Facebook, like saying like he's really the slender man coming to kill her like in an unfriended scenario. And then in one of his blogs, Casbolt for some reason wrote, when it comes to scaring women, you got to make it as evil and as horrifying as possible. And I actually think that also applies to men.

When it comes to scaring anyone, it seems like the guy probably needs to be behind bars. He might be a total predator and the slender spaceman will always be David Bowie. So he does not get that whatsoever. He does not get that title. But he does have a lot of claims, James Casbolt. The problem is that Max Spears also said that he has the same powers. He said that he could be in charge of a thing called Lerm, which is light encoded reality matrix, which you could like think about things that you need kind of like in the matrix

and you could put them in your brain. And that I'm trying to find all of the different karate is that he was good at because they don't sound real. I want to find out if somebody else has seen the, it's like Kumbjatt King. It was a couple of things that I have not really heard of before that I'm certain that there, I know there's many variants of martial art. He did. So I don't know what's real or what's not.

I don't think a lot of it's real. Well, they don't seem to be very credible. He's into a lot of karate. That's always an interesting personality type that loves karate, not demeaning or maligning any people who love karate. But it does take a specific person because it's my understanding that they don't really hit each other, but they do get points. And I never understood how karate works, how competitions work.

I'm not maligning because they're strong. Can we please not make fun of people in the martial arts world? I'm not. They are very serious. I just, you know, he just says he's done a lot of things. I don't think that he's done. All right. Well, there that is.

But he did, but I will say he does it at educate slash yourself.org, educate dash yourself.org. He has a really good breakdown of how the triggering commands are supposed to do because essentially it's a very, Project Mannequin was a very similar to the MKUltra thing where they have triggering techniques. Where it's like one of those is that you get a call, you get an electric message. One of the real mannequin codes is is blasted at you like this one, which is Lima, one, one, seven, two, Bravo, Mike, XXX, XXX.

And then you hear this code signal, the puppets are mobile. It is we who pull the strings. Oh my. But apparently this also connects to Robert Picton and his concept of create of murdering sex workers in order to work for a clone agency that you would use the empty bodies of the clones to put the brains of the celebrities that were working out of Buckingham Palace with Queen Elizabeth in order to surreptitiously work about the needs of the New World Order

using the power of celebrity, but in the bodies of these Vancouver sex workers. Well, you know what? I'm just going to say you never know what people are thinking about. And that's why I don't explore too much. I just kind of, you know, let's keep it to the surface there. Everyone, everyone, you know, dismisses small talk. They say, I don't like small talk. I don't like small talk.

Big talk is when you start thinking about things like that. You see, you see, there's the problem is that with the less life you lead without truly examining yourself. I was saying about being vulnerable at the beginning. I was very vulnerable. Yes. But you're going to be very afraid of the ideas that pop up if you don't, if we don't have these big conversations, right?

You have to be able to express them. I have to be able to say whatever controversial thing comes out of my mind. Sure. Because if not, it festers. Right. Yeah. And of course, naturally, and it's always great to like, am I going to have a career tomorrow?

You know, kind of fun. Yeah. I like setting little man landmines for all of us. Sure. It doesn't really matter because if the time, we've, it's already out there. Don't steal a plane. Okay. Well, you mentioned Slenderman just very quickly, my home state of Wisconsin.

That's where the Slenderman stabbing happened. That movie, there is a movie coming out called Slenderman and the Marcus Corporation. It's a theater chain in Wisconsin. They have said they will not be showing the film in the locations around, nor in the town that that Slenderman stabbing took place. However, it will be showing the films in Milwaukee and Waukesha counties. So kind of interesting. That stabbing, of course, was in 2014 and there's a documentary on Netflix about it.

So I understand why that film is a little bit, you know, controversial there in my home state. Do these people not really think that the true proxies of Slenderman with his incredible cock would take the green line to Waukesha in order to see the movie and play fucking, to pay tribute to their master? I have no idea. I'm sure people will go and watch. I don't know if the movie is going to be any good, but it is. People drive for two or three hours for good cock.

I've heard. Yeah. And for good movies, especially when you live in a small town in Wisconsin, that may or may not have a movie. I've heard it's not a very good movie. No, I don't. It doesn't look very good. No.

They butcher a lot of these kinds of internet phenomenons, I think. Because so you know what's very good? What? That sharp objects at HBO. I heard it's good. All right. I'm loving it. I am loving it.

You know what else is also good? I am a killer on Netflix. You would like that. It's about death row. Oh, yes, that would be very good. You love things about prison. Oh, it's interesting. We got to reform it, but that's not for this show.

All right, everyone. Well, those are the main big fun stories in the true crime news this week. Feel free to... As always, send them to us. Yeah. We should set up our own email for this. So people could just start sending stories to that because I'm basically completely checked out of Twitter.

I know you're barely in and out. Well, I got to do it. You can DM me at Ben Kissel 1 on Instagram and I'll find you there. Yeah, you can do the same thing for me. My Instagram, I'm still active on Instagram. You can DM me on Instagram at Dr. Fantastie if you have any good stories, but we should set up our own email for the next time so that we could start just having an account. We can log all the stories.

Log. Log. That's fine. But for now, the last podcast network at gmail.com, you can feel free to use that. Send us your stories. Yeah, perhaps we'll have an email, a different email next week who knows. But yeah, and we'll see everybody in Phoenix and in... Is it Santa Rosa or Santa Ana that we're going to?

Santa Ana. We're going to Santa Ana. Okay. And then, hey, we know we've got to be careful of them. Phoenix is these Haboobs. What's that? Haboobs are dust storms that have been attacking Phoenix recently. Gigantic, massive dust storms.

So scared. Yeah. I'm driving there. I'm going to take pictures. Well, why would they name it a Haboob? I think it's another culture. I guess so. All right, everyone.

Thank you all so much for listening. Hail yourselves. Thank you. Hail Satan. If you're going to be alive, and if you're not loving, you better be laughing. Uh-oh. You know what I mean? Because if you're not loving, you're just sitting there with your friends at night,

laughing and laughing with your freedom, getting drunk, punching each other in the face. No love. And then what happens is that one day you just die in your apartment and you know who finds you? The landlord. Maybe. That's not good. Or?

That's what happens. No one will care. No one will look for you if you don't have love. Not to make you feel bad. No. I mean, but that is the case. It is truly the case, find someone, anyone. Settle if you have to.

Hey, even find a ghost. So that seems to work for people too.