Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Phantom Clowns and Cattle Mutilation

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

Ben 'n' Henry break down this week's true crime news: phantom clowns, Samuel Little, mutilated cattle, and MORE. TRIPLE L.

There's no place to escape to. This is the last stop. On the left. Side stories. I love your glades. That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Side stories. Yeah. Ooh, kissle are you feeling spooky? Dude, I'm freaking scared, man. There's a bunch of fake spiderwebs all over the place. You can't even go into a Dwayne read anymore, which is a Walgreens. You know what's scariest about the fake spiderwebs? What? They're made out of asbestos. You get that web long.

That's what killed my grandfather. Amen. Yeah. There's a lot of cobwebs at Birkenau. No, that was not that grandfather. You are just, no, my grandfather who fought for the United States in the Forgotten War, the Korean War. And then you know what he did? Carpentry. And that's where he got cancer. Wow. You know what? I'll tell you what. It's the Forgotten War. It's definitely the most boring war.

It's not a boring war. There were zips. There were zaps. There was... Wasn't it like three weeks long? I don't know. I don't remember. Alright. Didn't we win that war in a ping-pong championship? I honestly don't know a single thing about the Korean War. There's a big monument now in Washington, D.C. and we're going to be in Washington, D.C. in early November, November 8th. Come check out Side Story's live and Henry, we will go in there together. Oh, God.

And we will learn about the Korean War. Do I have to be lectured by a vet? Yes. When we're traveling for work. Or whoever we find missing a digit. If they're missing a finger, we're just going to assume they know all about it and whatever they say, that's the truth. No, they were probably in an anti-smoking commercial. Hey, what's up, everyone? How you doing? This is Side Story's.

I am Ben, joined by my compatriot, Henry Zabrowski. Yes, it is your comrade. Indeed. Comrade Henry Zabrowski, West Coast Communist Henry Zabrowski, which means I give my latte to the poor man I see. Oh. I do buy, I sometimes will buy a goddess bowl and give it to a poor man, so he knows he is equal. That's very sweet of you. Everyone loves Queen-O. Yes, they do. They do love Queen-O, yes.

But it's Halloween. Yes, it is. And I film spooky and kissle. What have you been watching? So, obviously, I did check out It Too, that's been the most mainstream horror film that I saw recently. And as we mentioned on last week's stream, or on last night's stream, we can't really talk about it yet because it's still too fresh and people haven't seen it. But that's the most- It too? It too, yeah.

That's fine, getting sucked. That's just my hot take, but I don't want to ruin it for anyone because there were some great scares, there were some fun jump moments, some really cool big-ass puppets. Yeah, leave 10 minutes before it's over, basically leave 10 minutes. As soon as you get down there, leave, and go catch a free beer in the lobby. Could be. That's not bad advice because I'm going to say, see it, you got to see it because it is cool. It's cool. Joker, again, it's all right. These are our movie reviews because we really can't give any information away because otherwise our audience is going to turn this episode off immediately.

It's all right. The walking thing's real thin. Real skinny, I was very concerned the entire time about how skinny he was. But he's always been thin. I know, but he goes in between. He got specifically very skinny and then he did do a whole breakdown on an interview afterwards saying, you know, I felt such extreme control over losing 70 pounds by not eating. I was like, yeah, it's called an eating disorder. That's why you do it. It's because you have very bad anxiety or you have horrible depression and you feel like everything's in a fucking, you're sliding down towards chaos. And the only way to hold your life together is make sure you only eat two hard-boiled eggs a day.

Well, that is a great point, Henry. That is what eating disorders are, a way for you to control whether it be getting big or getting tiny. Would you say that he was thinner than Christian Bale in The Machinist? I think that if you asked Christian Bale, he'd be like, no, I was the skinniest actor of all time. And then walking things be like, no, sir, I was the skinniest actor of all time. You know, it's so funny that is the difference between professional wrestlers and actors. He's watching the Goldberg documentary about Bill Goldberg and 30 minutes of it was him complaining about how he can't gain weight. He's like, I've got to gain weight. I'm 56. I'm like, you are such a bastard.

You can gain weight. It's called get a rascal. And the weight just arrives at you. But they like to do it in a muscular way. Yes, in terms of order. Every year I try to do 31 for 31. And so a lot of times what I'll end up doing is that if I miss a day because of travel, I double back up. So I'll watch two or three in a night to make sure I got it. The family loves it. I don't hold the living room hostage. It's not that everyone's afraid of me. No, honestly, it's true. Natalie does join me, which is nice, except it made us interrupt because we've been watching Game of Thrones as well because we never watched it because we don't like being a part of fads.

And as we were watching it now, now I don't remember what's happened in the show, so we probably have to start it all over again. You're doing Game of Thrones now? Yeah. Huh. Okay. I don't know. It's a show we're watching because we always have a show we are watching and then normal shit because we don't like watching all of the shows. I can't keep up with all of the stupid television. Oh, it's totally impossible. It'll take over your entire life.

And if you love superhero movies and television shows, now they got the Marvel app and you're doomed. I'm not a big superhero movie or television show fan. I'm a big fan of nooses. Nooses. Yeah. Is it a genre of film? No, no, just called Committing Suicide because I'd rather do that. I actually, no, that's not true. I love to live. I love to live. If I choose between watching The Arrow Show and Committing Suicide, I'll watch The Arrow Show, but I don't want to see it.

Is it called The Arrow Show? I think it's called Arrow, but yeah, it could be called The Arrow Show. I like the color green in it. Great. I do. That's great. I've never, that's the only thing I know about it, but I do like that color green. They use a good forest green. But in, so for Halloween, specifically for 31 for 31, I like mixing up classic rewatches. Like last year, I watched every single Hellraiser. I didn't really talk about it, but I watched every single Hellraiser and they obviously, they go up and down in quality.

Yes, they do. Hellraiser 3 is surprisingly fun. Hellraiser 3, now that is the one where the man, he runs the rock joint, right? Yes. The one where he has this tulpa and all of the victims. Yes, and it's got the CD head. Yeah, of course. Centabyte.

That might be, I don't want to talk out of school here, but I think that's my favorite Hellraiser. It, it's close. It's very close. Because I have the original because the original is just, I mean, it's just incredible. Will there ever be a, is there, we're not even in talks of a Hellraiser reboot right now. No, because they try to do it. I watched the fat Hellraiser. Oh my God. He's not even a fat actor, but honestly, we got to take Joaquin Phoenix now that he's

thin with Joker. And you know, it's got to play a more horrific character. Just put him in the pinhead makeup. Let's just get this out of the way while he's still loving to only eat two eggs before he starts eating steak when he stars as John Wayne in a biopic next time. I would come so hard for Joaquin Phoenix. Hellraiser. I would too.

Woo. But I also watch, so then, but this year, so, so I've tried to hit a new franchise. Okay. My big thing is that I've never seen all the saws. Really? Yes. Okay. Saw one, which is again, far too serious.

Saved it with a fucking Joker. It's so serious. It's so serious. Are you doing, are you doing the why so serious thing? Why so serious? Where it's like, you could just do a little bit of a joke. I mean, you're still a Joker, whatever. See, this is nice because I have seen all the saws and I'm interested to hear your take

because everyone's like, oh, horror porn, all this nonsense. They are straight up by the time you get to saw three, four, five, six goofball slapstick comedies. Well, this is, so please guide me. All right. So saw one classic, great. Classic. Fine.

You know, I fucking shut off saw two. Saw two. It was garbage. Saw two is almost unwatchable, but you gotta get through it so you don't lose the storyline. Henry, there is a big time. So you're only, you're through saw one and a 15 minutes of saw two. I made it through about half an hour or saw two and I was like, this is fucking garbage. And I watched all the phantasms.

Phantasms hold up though, because, you know, say what you want. Uh, uh, Coscarelli, the, uh, Coscarello, the, uh, the director, keeping the same cast for Phantasms was the single grace hood because a mistake. They all aged horribly. And it is unreal. It is so awesome. I love that franchise. I love that franchise.

Although as I got older, I realized the tall man, he's only like five 11. Actors are all really tall. He's not that tall, but I love Phantasms. If you haven't seen the Phantasms series, again, you do have to sit through a lot of like questionable filmmaking, but it is so worth it. So moments that come are great. They are really good. And it's also such a good wackadoo sci-fi horror because it starts leaning on the sci-fi

end, which I think is really fun. I really love Phantasms. But yes. So you're saying, can I just read the Wikipedia of a saw two and watch saw three? They're not complex in many ways. But in others, there are because I don't want to ruin this for you, but you know, it's been out for a decade. As the series progresses, jigsaw, obviously it is, it's an idea and there are multiple

other people who perhaps have learned to love themselves because jigsaw tortured them. And maybe there's a group of people at one point that get together and they have their jigsaw appreciation meetings and all of them look like they are Iraq war or World War two veterans. I have to get there because they're all missing like whatever horror that they were put through. They're all missing a limb or an eye or neck. I got to get there. It really is.

That point. All right. I'll press on. Just honestly, you can even watch them in reverse because by the end of it, it's just a bunch of nerds like you and I, Henry sitting in a room trying to make a horror themed game of mousetrap because everything is just so ridiculous because it has to be so complicated. So complicated is a lesson within a lesson, within a game, within a game. And it's just, I'm just watching Donnie Wahlberg suck on a cigarette that first that second

saw it too and I was like, I can't watch this shit anymore. But then they always have a Scooby-Doo flip at the end and it is, it is just, I recommend the Saw series. I don't understand. I'm just happy that we're over the time when people were taking it seriously in the way that they were saying like, this is damaging to children. I'm like, this is ridiculous. It is absolutely because that's what we talk about all the time is Nat and I are like,

I love the artistry of the kills. I think that they're fun and they're super metal and you forget that James Wan was also really talented director at one point. Yes. They actually really knew what the hell he was doing. And also no one has actually died in any way in which they show people died in the movie Saw. It has never happened.

Well, there is apparently, there has been a jigsaw inspired guy that has been happening recently. Oh my goodness. There is a story right now, a guy named the Jeffrey Howe that was murdered by a guy that was like put through a system. Essentially there is, there's a, I can't remember the name of the podcast. There's a podcast out right now that is starting to break down this one guy. Basically he killed one dude.

Okay. In a gigantic labyrinth. Oh my goodness. So it does inspire creativity. I also am working my way through child's play, which is entirely worth it. Have you seen the latest one yet? Cause I heard the latest one was really good. I was about to play last night and I didn't yet, but I will loved it.

I am one of those. I am a haunted doll person. Sure. I you've been saying this. I like haunted dolls. The boy. Have you seen the boy? I did see the boy.

Yes. It's the boy. The boy is doing it. That's my favorite. I've been like, it can't possibly be the boy. The boy is a doll. And it's like, the boy is the one doing the crimes. I love that shit.

Also, you know what? I also, you know, that's not going to get you out of jail though. When you get your speeding ticket, when you're super stoned, the boy, you'd be like, no, no, I need to just keep a ventriloquist dummy with me at all times. They're like, the boy's making me do it. He tells me horrible things. Yep. I agreed.

The boy and dead silence. I know we're mixing puppets and dolls here, but let's just say that they're one entity. Dead silence is also a great movie. I'm going to put this way. If you email us to correct us the difference between a puppet and a doll, you're a pedophile. Don't you dare. Don't you fucking dare.

Because you're disgusting. I, it's a hard statement here on, on side stories, but that's, that's, and we're steadfast on that one. I'm hardline on that. Okay. Another good one I just watched that I forgot was really creepy was the canal. I never heard of it. Irish horror film.

Okay. About a dude moving into with his wife who's super hot, but it's just not that into him and seems to make him really upset. He moves into a house where the man that lived there in the 1800s murdered his cheating wife and the ghost sort of inhabits this man. Okay. Very cool. It's very good.

It's very good. That was really good. And also the wrinkles, the clown documentaries. Fun. I didn't even, what is that? Wrinkles the clown. So there was a period of time. It was in 2016, right before everything slid into total fucking chaos.

We were having those clown sightings everywhere when news was wholesome wrinkles. The clown was a guy that created a viral video of him saying, you can hire me. You can call up my number and I'll come and scare your bad kids. And it became sort of like a viral thing and it's very, very interesting. And it hearkens back to a real phenomena that was in the 1980s, like 1981. I want to say it coincided with the, it coincided when they finally gave a John Wayne Gacy the death penalty in 1980. It was this rash of clown sightings. If you look up 1981 Phantom Clowns, it is this, it is a phenomena.

It was a social phenomena that was talking about, there was rumors that were both debunked and not of people in clown costumes fucking with people, like causing General Mayhem. Was it inspired by John Wayne Gacy or did it just so happen? It seems that you couldn't really separate the two because of the time Pogo Fever was kind of happening in the country. Right. Cause I mean, I guess after John Wayne Gacy was dead, you could really have fun with it now. You could really just be like, that was cosplay. That is what that was. Yeah. Serial killer cosplay that I mean, I think that is when, when, when something is gone, when someone is dead,

then you can start to like be like, that was really weird though. Right. Like, yeah, that was weird. That was strange. It was a big, that was strange. And he like did that, right? Yeah, I do that. Should I burn my clown costume? Well, no, I think you should wear it, Brian.

And you also need to reverse Joaquin Phoenix yourself. Put on some weight so you can really look like a creepy Pogo. That's what I have to do to get my fucking acting career back. I know it, buddy. I'm gonna be back even fat. Well, actually, if you want to see a movie based on clowns that is truly horrifying as well, it's about three years old now, but clown, clown. Clown! Clown is a great horror film.

The dude puts on a clown suit. He wants to wear it to surprise his nephew, I think, at a birthday party. And then things get a little spooky-ooky. Y'all! Another good one to see that I watched recently was Vincent Price's The Fly. And also, the creep show, television show is great on Shudder. Yes, I have been watching that, and that is old school. They captured the vibe.

Also, if you really want to get old school, they still have all those old, uh, oh my god. Are you afraid of the dark? Are you afraid of the dark? It's still on, I believe it's on Netflix now. And Goosebumps. Did you talk about the children's show? Yes. And Goosebumps.

You like it? Dude, they're the best because the twists are amazing. Goosebumps. You're watching a mad drunk. You're sitting there. You know what's also really good? That is possible. I would put out there, alright, a couple other movies out there.

Incident in a Ghost Land is fantastic. Okay. I watched that recently, very, very good, and so is the taking of Deborah Logan. Seen that? Very tasty. Very good. So these are the things I've been watching. I mean, I'm just trying to keep you going, man.

This is October. You better be fucking mainlining that horror. We got to be doing this shit. I absolutely agree. I completely love it. Check out all the good horror films that are out there. And if you don't have Shutter, they don't sponsor the show because they don't have that much money. But you know what?

Let's get them some money. It's only $7.99. I don't know if they even, like, are happy that we pump it so hard. Like, I don't even know. No one's ever, I've never received a message saying that they like that we talk about the show. I don't know if there's going to be working at Shutter. It could just be bots. But whatever the bots are doing over there is really good.

They've got really good programming over there. They really do. And it's, if you want to see a horror film from the 1940s all the way up to today, you can see them on Shutter. Highly, highly worth it. Well, speaking of horror, let's just do a little bit of news here. Yes. Man. So big news in serial killer history.

This fellow Samuel Little, we've talked about him a little bit before in the past, but now he's back in the mainstream. Samuel Little is now considered the worst. I hate when people say the best or prolific. There's nothing prolific or good about this man. He is the worst serial killer in United States history. The FBI has now confirmed 50 people, however, Little has confessed to, I believe, 93. He says he's confessed to 93. They say they have confirmed 50.

Right. I keep looking up, how did they confirm it? And it seems like he's doing a lot of confessing. Right. And he apparently has a photographic memory. So he has been drawing pictures of victims and describing victims. Yes. And then they're using his DNA on cold cases.

And I guess are slowly but surely, because this has been since 2012. Yes. So now they have been slowly but surely connecting them to all these dots, which is just like, how did the, if this is real? Because again, we've talked about this a couple times with serial killers. We've covered about how like once you're in jail, you can confess to fucking everything. Oh, sure. Because he gave up, basically what he said is that I'll give you as many bodies as I gave. I'll give you as many bodies as I made, as long as I don't get the death penalty.

Right. So they didn't give him the death penalty. And so now he's just rattling. They just bring him it because, oh, but what do we also know about confessions? It gets you out of Gen Pop. Right. He's 79 years old. He's fucking, he's an old bastard.

Yeah. So they fucking pull him out of Gen Pop. He doesn't have to deal with anybody. He gets coffee and cigarettes. Right. And special meals. He gets to sit in an interview room all day, fucking hobnobbing with the cops. I watched about 15 minutes.

They have about 15 minutes of his confessions on the FBI YouTube page. Yeah. Which is, I watched it as well. And I was like, way to get in there, FBI. It's not sponsored. I didn't see any ads for Nestle or anything. They're like the upcoming. Pretty fun.

They did though. Newest feature film coming from Disney. They're leaving money on the table. The FBI is leaving money on the table and they really need to stop doing that. But this is what's interesting going back to just. But he seems to have like a, but he seems to have like a joy talking about the details. Yeah. And that was why I am wondering if like they need to like be broadcasting it.

I think this is sort of exactly what he wants. Now, cause he, he really is a fucking piece of shit. Like he is just a very, like he is a very scary. He's a big old boy, big strong, big strong. He's a big, he's a big man. He is. Big dude. He strangled and beat every one of his victims to death.

He was operating from 1970 to 2005. And then they got him at a, during, I guess some sort of DNA sweep, which is also not completely clear at a homeless shelter. Interesting. They got him at a homeless shelter and apparently the CIA has now been doing this fairly often. They, as soon as this was done, the residents were concerned about, cause he was caught in Louisville. After he got caught, apparently residents were concerned about a DNA for cash transactions

that were happening in the homeless community. This is from Wave 3 News in Louisville by Felicia Ashley. They are saying that these homeless people are essentially being approached and given 20 bucks to get a sample of their DNA. And then they're using and they're running them through the systems. Cause now we're saying that's how the Golden State killer, same person. Yeah. So now they are, they are, so it's all of these weird privacy concerns.

So there's a lot of shit about this case that is still like, the book about him is going to be written and we'll figure it out. There's probably some, there's probably some cold case podcast that's already going through all the police files. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll talk about why he wasn't caught for so long and obviously we've discussed the notion of the less dead, which tends to be sex workers, specifically sex workers of color.

But that's what he specifically, he said that he, his whole thing is that I killed women that no one would miss. Exactly. But that is extremely concerning. And honestly, Henry, you're breaking breaking news to Ben Kissel here. I never heard of that program before. That almost sounds like something we could delve into further. Maybe on top hat, we can go in that and here, but it seems like so they're paying $20 a

pop for DNA of a person. But as we saw with the Golden State killer, it was his relative that could submitted for the, you know, for the DNA ancestry. And it turns out they don't show this in the commercial with like the leaf when all the leafs pop up. They don't show it when your uncle was also the Golden State killer. Like I had no idea. I was related to the Golden State killer.

Much like how Ted Bundy's supposed to. We're famous. But I would suppose it's not just about the homeless person's DNA. It's about their entire family lineage. That's what you get from DNA. So the fact that the feds are just paying 20 bucks a pop for something as invasive as that, very interesting. But this dude was around.

He was a vaguely well known homeless dude in the area, Samuel Little. He was a drifter killer, essentially. He just operated in and out of the California and he was in California, Texas, obviously Louisville. He was in Florida. He was arrested many times as a very long rap sheet. He was a still very little known kind of about his normal, normal life. He basically did a, he traveled.

That's what he said. He was a cemetery worker. He said he was an ambulance attendant at one point. What does that mean? What does that mean? You just pretend to be the body in the back so the ambulance knows. You're like, try to lift me. He was, but he was arrested for in eight states for DUI, fraud, shoplifting, solicitation,

armed robbery, aggravated assault and rape. He was already investigated two separate times for attempted murder of a woman. He was in several murder investigations. You just got to fucking quit it. It's time because they just didn't have any evidence on him. And then he just rambled into another series of crimes. And I guess he just quit in 2005. That's what he says.

He says that he stopped doing shit in 2005. So he just put up, he just put his cap on the nail on the wall. He was like, today's the last day. But the first day of the rest of my life. Just put his time card in, nodded at BTK, nodded at Son of Sam. They're like, have fun in retirement. You know, working hard, hardly working. You know what I mean?

Doing that shit? Yeah. It's like that horror movie beyond the mask, which is another great horror film as far as I'm concerned. That's a really good one. So going back to what we were talking about with the less dead. This is according to FBI analyst, Christy Palazzolo. She says, for many years, Samuel Little believed he would not be caught because he thought no one was accounting for his victims.

I do like that the FBI was like, he thought no one was accounting for his victims. But then it's like, the FBI is like, oh yeah, we're not accounting for his victims. No, we didn't account for any of these victims. Definitely not. The FBI is like, technically, he was right about that. She goes on to say, even though he is already in prison, the FBI believes it is important to seek justice for each victim to close every case possible. The FBI has set up a website showing Little's sketches. As Henry mentioned, the dude does remember the faces of the people he killed,

or at the very least, he's good at doing make-em-ups. I don't know. He is either just doing make-em-ups, and one of the most incredible performance art things within true crime. He's just making shit up off the top of his dome, and he's being a fucking real bosskiat. They sure, if that's what he's doing, but I really think that in the... Did you see some of these sketches? Yes, they're very haunting, and they are very specific. They really are.

He is... He might be right. The one thing I will say about the interviews is that it does not look like... It looks like he's remembering. You know what I mean? Right. Where the way the details are coming out of his mouth, or... He's doing the thing. He's looking up and right, and he's collecting data and coming out. Because I don't think he's necessarily a bright man.

No, no. He is just a brutal man. And the way he kind of talks about it is very perfunctory, where he just, he's like... Yeah, I did her in the car. Right. And then I just pulled over the road, I found a little thing, and there was a dirt road. There's always a dirt road. Yeah.

There's always just like a place he would just go through the Everglades. I mean, like, you got fucking alligators and all these animals that are doing your disposal for you. So he's just dragging them in the fucking... He's like, yeah, I cover with leaves, and I left. Yeah, this is... I went uncaught for 35 years. Good lord. Because, and the only thing he did to really cover up his crimes is like, I put a hat on her face.

It looked like she fell asleep working the field. I mean, like, no, that's not him. You didn't even chop it up and feed it to dogs. No, she did not go Kuklinski on this whatsoever. No rats were involved. And again, it's almost like no one was looking for the bodies. It is very... It's horrible.

It is horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And this is, again, going back to Christy Palalazzo. Palalazzo, lolol. She says, over the course of that interview in May, he went through city and state and gave Ranger Holland the number of people he killed in each place. He said, Jackson, Mississippi, he killed one. Cincinnati...

Yeah, dude. He killed... In Cincinnati, he killed one. In Phoenix, Arizona, he killed three. In Las Vegas, Nevada, he killed one. So it seems like, not just does he recognize who he killed in their faces, but he also remembers how many people he killed in which places. And it seems sort of counter to what we think about when it comes to serial killers, like Ted Bundy, obviously the famous quote. Like, you know, you forget the crowbar or the wrench or whatever the hell that was.

Yeah. Like, it seems like Bundy couldn't even do as specific of, you know, recollection on his victims and Bundy was supposed to actually be smart. So maybe this guy is like a savant in some way. Like, I don't know. I don't even know how to describe someone who has a memory. Well, he's got a photographic memory. Yeah, photographic, yeah. I mean, I don't know what the hell's up with this shit.

He seems to be... He does seem to be very in tune and he seems to remember each one. He seems to have an emotional memory for each one of these murders. It seems like he drew the pictures to remember. It seems like, honestly, he's been replaying them over and over for forever. Because the way he described it is that he just straight up is like, this is what I do. This was me. I was a serial killer.

That was my every day. It was what I thought about every single day. You can go to the FBI YouTube channel if you want to check out their new programming. Samuel Little confesses. It really is insane. Yeah, he's a piece of shit, but now he gets to be going on all these road trips. So they're taking him out of prison now, checking to see if what he's saying is accurate or are they keeping him in prison and going to snoop around.

I don't quite know if he's getting out of prison or not. But he is definitely, I guess this is the final phase of being a serial killer. Now he gets his recognition. It's almost too good for him. Well, that's, I mean, it's all this shit. It's like everyone was so happy. I mean, unfortunately, it makes me, the term justice porn has been said again. It's something about the golden state killer where it's like everybody's so happy that he's been gotten got.

Everyone's really excited that justice is finally done. Man, he's fucking 79 years old, 80 years old. Yeah, he's even older. He literally made it all the way to the end and he lived through it. It's because our police departments don't speak to each other and it's because they're murdering people that they don't care about because they don't care about sex workers. That is what it's about. So we now have to go and celebrate.

We got him. It's like, yeah, you got an 80-year-old man that was living in a homeless shelter that had already stopped being an active serial killer. He was already over it. He was already into whatever. He was waiting to die. Over it, do you think these drawings that he's created will end up on the serial killer market? The serial killer market is getting harder and harder.

You have to be pretty legit now. Nowadays, it's like, because I've been to several serial killer art shows in L.A. You went to one with John Wayne Gacy, right? Yes, and then I was supposed to go to one with Charles Manson, but I didn't because we were on the road. But as we were, lethal amounts is an incredible art gallery in Los Angeles. If you're ever in Los Angeles and you want to see whatever shows going on there, lethal amounts is pretty fucking sweet. Lethal amounts, okay. You have to give a certain amount to victims' societies.

Even if you were selling tickets to the event, you have to give money towards charity. You have to do things now. It probably will end up, I imagine something like the Museum of Death will purchase these paintings at some point. He won't make this money, but hopefully families of the victims will make some money. Yeah, because they really are, I don't know, they're just really interesting. And you can see a bunch of the sketches on the internet, as you can see everything else. But they really are haunting, haunting drawings and depictions. And he seems to give his victims even a sense of emotion in the drawings.

So, I mean, he must have been able to feel that he was doing something that was causing someone else an immense amount of distress, pain and misery. But obviously he didn't care. Again, going back to a little bit of the racial component here, I think without a doubt he doesn't get to this number if he was killing anyone that was not black and was not a sex worker. There's no way he gets to this number. And also being an African American homeless person himself off the grid entirely. You know, we saw this with the Grim Sleeper as well.

We covered him briefly in the last podcast on the left. These people were able to get away with it for much, much longer because society turned a blind eye. And it really is just a tragic double-edged sword when it comes to the racial injustice in our country. Absolutely. And white people, and as we talked about in that episode with the Grim Sleeper, white people don't want to talk about it because they don't want to see him. They don't want to be like, oh, I don't want to be called insensitive. It's like, these are serial killers.

This is not about your hashtag, whatever society. No, no, no, these are serial killers. These are serial killers. But there's a lot of talk about he was, you know, he was quote-unquote very charming. Samuel Little, he kind of worked his way into people's lives. He had girlfriends, he had all of this shit, but he still made it. And again, all of these people still add these kind of caveats to him. He was like, oh, but when I met him, he was actually really nice.

I was like, yeah, I know. But he was the last thing that 93 Women saw. Right, exactly. So he was, yeah, so he ended up, he said one specific statement was that I had a woman in a car and when she realized I was crazy, the only thing that she could say was, oh, shit. Good Lord. And now he's in jail doing whatever the hell he's going to do. And hopefully more, because that's what I want to say.

They're asking for people to listen to three confessions that he has put out. FBI is straight up asking if you have any idea who these victims are. They're trying to identify some of his final victims. So there is a website, I forget the name, there is no website. Just look up Samuel Little, identify victims and find out like they have all the shit where they have tips. We're saying like, call into a tip hotline to help identify some of these victims. All right. So make sure, yeah, check that out.

Really interesting. And we will keep you up to date as more information comes to light. Samuel Little seems to love speaking at this point. So I'm sure he will have more to say in the future. Okay, Henry. All right. I want to talk about this real quick. It's been coming up again and again.

And it's really just about, we're in a fucking whack-a-doo goddamn time. No. We are just in a, I just, you know, I'm still beside myself. It's still just like, we had disclosure two weeks ago. Uh-huh. Where the Navy said that they officially have no clue what UAVs are. Yes. Now, MPR itself is reporting on cattle mutilations in Oregon.

And the national public radio is doing this now. It is. This is where we're at. So it's literally like, welcome to MPR today. We're going to be talking about cattle mutilations. We have here. No blood. Now we want to warn our listeners, there is some talk of cows disappearing.

So I don't want you to be triggered if you have cows, move them away from the radio. I do not want them to be scared. Spoil their strawberry milk. But you know, here we have in the early morning light, dust from hoops, creates a fog, settle these Zali Ranch in remote eastern Oregon. Ooh, they're being scary. They really are. That's straight out of the article from MPR.

The name of this, the title of this article, if you want to read it is not one drop of blood, cattle mysteriously mutilated in Oregon by Anna King. And I guess it was on all things considered, which is one of those shows that I use to fall asleep. I do love that this is like, I, they definitely scared some people. This is the closest you can get to a war of the world, you know, because the thing is with like, you know, with like one of our favorite people have not heard these things before.

People on MPR have not heard of cattle mutilation. Yes. So this is bone shattering for these people. They thought cows sing songs with each other like whales. That's what they, they think cows can communicate and play chess and do math and shit. All right. So five young purebred bulls mysteriously showed up dead in the ranch this past summer. They were completely drained of blood with body parts precisely removed.

This is very interesting. The ranch's vice president Colby Marshall. He says, we'll go here. I'll take a little walk. We're in a mull around. Carcass, carcass, Stuller. I'm sorry. What, what did he say?

The carcass, the carcass, the carcass bull. The carcass, excuse me for, could you speak in MPR English please? The carcass of the bull is still over there. Coming upon one of the dead bulls. They're saying the bull looks like a giant deflated plush toy. It smells. Nearly. There are no sounds of buzzards, coyotes or other scavengers.

His red coat is as shiny as if he was going to the fair. But he's bloodless and his tongue and genitals have been surgically cut out. Good for him. My God. I am just saying the reason why this story is fun is because it's on NPR now. Yes. And the aliens have worked their way so deep into mainstream society that even NPR. I mean, like they're busting the story.

So they are blowing minds. They are. I'm excited as a fucking the radio and the picture of the cow. They have it. It's right there at the top of the article. It looks like John Candy and John Belushi and Chris Farley simultaneously jumped on this cow and completely deflated it. It is really, really creepy.

So there's a lot of theories that are going around here. This is according to Harney County Sheriff's Deputy Dan Jenkins, who's been working the cattle cases. So he's literally there is a deputy right now working cattle cases going home to his wife slamming down whiskey. He started to smoke again. He didn't smoke for 20 years. Oh man, it's scary, dude.

It's crazy. And this is what Jenkins says. He says a lot of people lean towards aliens. He goes on to say one caller had told us to look for basically a depression under the carcass. He goes on to say, because he said that the alien ships will kind of beam the cow up and do whatever they're going to do with it. Then they just dropped them from a great height.

This is a this is a sheriff's deputy Dan Jenkins. This is the beginning of a Nicholas Cage crime thriller. But I'm saying this is how far we have come. This is how far ufology has gotten to is that they are talking about that is old school, like deep cut. The cattle relations used to be a thing that would be above. I mean, they've been around for forever, which is why it's one of the phenomenon that's more interesting than any of the others because they have no clue really what's happening.

Again, hyper skeptical, you can always say it's animals. You could say it's all of this shit. You could say whatever it is that you want. But when you have these ranchers looking at these, they see animals consumed by other animals every day. I know what it looks like. At some point, they see something like this that is so outside of their parameters of their understanding.

Yes. I mean, you know, I'm not saying it's necessarily aliens. I don't even know what aliens are anymore. I'm now in a whole point where we're just kind of, we're making a reality possible. There's something about even just the chicken and the egg of us believing in the phenomena more and more, making it more concrete as it goes. The phenomena in us are in a constant communication, validating it. We are making it real as well.

It's 50-50 between our unconscious and some kind of intelligence, Kessel. And you don't fucking look at me. You don't look at me with that side eye, Kessel. But you know what? I have salt chicken or the egg. It's the egg. The egg came first. I decided it because that would make the most amount of sense because you can't.

But this is not the first time this has happened in the surrounding area here. About two years ago, 200 miles south of where we're talking about, a fellow named Andy Davies said that he found some of his cows cut up and bloodless. This is what he had to say regarding what they did. They circled around the tracks. They were looking all over the place. They didn't find any tracks. And he says, and he said it's a very dusty country.

Then he says everything you do leaves tracks, but they did not find any tracks. So it really is hilarious that NPR is now scaring the hell out of a bunch of house moms and house dads as they sit there trying to enjoy their stories of Gerald Ford and how he was actually a very good athlete in college. And then they're like, and all the cows are getting abducted. But wait a second. I was listening to NPR and they told me Lady Gaga defeated Carnivore-ism. I thought we had defeated it.

The hamburger was a thing of the past. Well, apparently it no longer is because the aliens have found out how amazing the taste of beef is. And that's what they're doing. What if we're just making aliens fat? What if there's just an alien? Did McDonald's sign a deal with the aliens? And they're like, and the thing is, you can just take our cows. We'll give you the secret residence.

I have learned that this thing called protein, it helps me bulk up after a day of blasting my quads. But you know, a lot of alien stuff out there. Wasn't, what is it, Tom DeLong? Wasn't there something that he said was from an unknown spacecraft and then it just turned out to be a piece of concrete and he paid like $1,000 for it or $10,000 for it? It just came out Tom DeLong.

It looks like he's been saying he's had a thing of exotic metals that he paid 35 grand for and they think it might be Bismuth. It might be six pieces of Bismuth slash magnesium zinc and a piece of aluminum. Dude, Tom DeLong, he lost his wife. And I don't know, maybe it wasn't true. Your apology is hard, dude. I know.

I just really started to feel bad for him and Blink-182 is starting to tour again. I know they've replaced him in the band, but I'm sure if he's just like, guys, guys, just let me play one song. I'm sure they'll let him play again because at some point he's going to go bankrupt and he's going to be loveless

and I'm going to be desperate and sad and then he's going to listen to Adam's song. No, dude, you know what he'll do. What? Honestly, he'll just go back to fucking Blink-182. All right. Well, I hope so. At one point, if it gets really bad,

they all want him back. Yeah. The new song, they had a new single out that just basically about how much they miss him. Is that right? Yes. Oh, no. Isn't that sad?

They have to tell their friend. I know that's where we have gotten to a delusional part of our lives where you are writing hit singles about how much you miss me. Just the whole podcast called Missy and Henry and be like, what happened? Did he die? Did he go to the National Forest and get abducted?

No, no, I literally, I just miss Henry. Like, he is gone mentally. He's right in the same house. He and Natalie, I know exactly where they live. Nice job, son. You getting tall? You getting big up? We're all going to turn into our parents one day.

Oh, God. Oh, God. I'm already half my mother. All right. Well, let's see. I really, you know, when it comes to Hero of the Week, I don't know what to do this week. There was a dude who was, he was being held up at gunpoint

and he lit a cigarette. I thought that was kind of cool. I don't know. Is that good? He's just addicted to cigarettes. Yeah, that's true. He didn't know what else to do with this fucking time. Also, I want to say thank you to Matt Staggs

for giving me the, pointing out the new Joe Rogan episode. Thank you so much, buddy. Matt, always appreciate you. You know what, dude? I'm just going to do the Hero of the Week is the people who've submitted all the Hero of the Week songs and maybe we could just play two new Hero of the Week songs and those are the Heroes of the Week.

They're very divisive. The Hero of the Week songs, apparently, they are very divisive. People either have no opinion or they have the most intense opinions of the thing that doesn't matter that I've ever heard our listeners have. Besides not, besides the misspelling of a Reagan. That is, I would say that that is the most divisive thing

that's ever been in our show. Yeah, probably, probably. All right, well, here are two new songs, back to back, Hero of the Week submissions. It's the Hero of the Week. It's the Hero of the Week. It's the Hero of the Week. It's the Hero of the Week.

It's the Hero of the Week. It's the Hero of the Week. It's the Hero of the Week. All right, there you go, Hero of the Week. How long was that? How long was that? We've got to make sure it's under two minutes. Oh, it's definitely the two new songs. You say it's definitely.

The Hero of the Week songs are like a minute long. Travis, just make sure it's under 90 seconds. No, not seven minutes. They get a little time, Henry, but yes, you're right. It was 90 seconds. Travis edited it, I promise you. I know, I just saying, I know our listeners are enthusiastic and I am also, I am an indulgent artist.

I've been called that. I've been saying that if you said it in the Hero of the Week song and it's over a minute long, people are going to be upset. Yes, I know. But you know what, the arts, if the arts don't invoke an emotion, is it even a piece of art? Wow. Wow. Wow. All right, I have some listener letters.

And before Henry reads this email, we are going to announce we are going to be doing two full episodes of Listener Pasta. So send in your spooky oaky tails and keep them, you know, kind of short. You know, maybe within like a minute reading at longest, right? A minute and 90 seconds at longest, please. You know, honestly, just send in what you got and we're picking through because some will be longer and some will be shorter. That's the reason why we're doing two episodes.

We've got straight, we already have had hundreds of submissions. And some of these, the goal with these is what we're really trying to do is we're trying to fucking be scary. All of this month, we're trying to get scary. Last podcast is getting scary this week. We're going to be doing a lot of oaky spooky shit because we've been in history land for quite a bit. And I want to thank everyone for the response

on the Mormonism series, It Lives Forever. And my God, you guys have been so supportive and wonderful. And yes, we will get back to aliens, blood and guts and all the things you love as well. Here this month. But email side stories lpotl at gmail.com. That's side stories lpotl at gmail.com. Let us know your spooky oaky tales

and we will read some on the show. All right, emails. Here we go. This is room A. I was just listening to your most recent episode of side stories and the mention of precocious puberty reminded me of this really incredible article I read written by a man, Patrick Burley. Are we still on puberty?

It's actually a very intense and challenging condition for young child to cope with and it absolutely makes sense that this is what Natalia has. For example, that is the Ukrainian orphan we've been talking about for a month. Yes. For example, at the age of two, Patrick had his first pubic hair. Oh, I don't want to...

Can we be done with puberty stories after this email, please? Yes. He had the testosterone levels of a 13-year-old and was growing facial hair. By four, he was obsessively thinking about sex. Is this me? It was a condition he inherited from his father and his father and his father, whose parents simply lied about his age

and skipped them several grades. Patrick's parents decided to keep him in the appropriate grade age-wise, but it took its toll in different ways. He was incredibly easy to provoke, which the other kids took advantage of. That's the only story. You should look up the article about that guy.

The kid got... All right. Can we just be done talking about these wonderful people? I just... I'm just wondering... You know, science is science. Science is science. All right. Okay. This comes from C. To celebrate Spooky October, I thought I'd give you a little look into my daily,

or should say nightly life with parasomnias. I tried to keep it short, but if you want to hear more, let me know. I am diagnosed with something called idiopathic hypersomnia, which means you're super tired and we don't know why, which means I'm always feeling like I just pulled an all-nighter. It also has a bunch of lovely side effects. Some people get sleep paralysis, like the time I believed I was abducted by aliens,

and others, like me, have night terrors and hallucinations. Let's start with my night terrors. They're like nightmares on steroids, where I genuinely believe I'm about to die in a horrible way, mainly being crushed by trucks or heavy machinery. I nearly threw myself off my balcony once because I thought I was being suffocated in a room full of spiders. After that, I set up a series of obstacles

to wake me up before getting to the balcony door. One time, I thought the wall was caving in on me and woke up with my palm split open, drenched in blood, from pressing so hard against the wall. I'm not on benzos to take the edge off. Weed is another effective medication, but legalities means I literally have easier access to benzos. But that's a whole other discussion.

Oh, and the terrors are especially fun when I'm sharing a room with others. While the night terrors are fun, the hallucinations are even funner. They come in two variants, insects in the walls and invasions of strangers. Insects are pretty self-explanatory. I see them everywhere. I'm asleep, but my eyes are open. So I take in the features of the room and warp them in a dream state.

This is also what happens with the terrors. The strangers are the same deal. Basically, I believe my bedroom is full of people, sometimes strangers, sometimes the vague idea of people I know. I think every one of them had that dream with her at work. I have that, but all my colleagues are in my bedroom. I'm embarrassed about the mess, about being in my PJs, confused as to why the fuck they're there in the first place.

The strangers sometimes take on a more sinister vibe, too, and can really crowd the room. I've woken up pressed against the wall because I've had to make space for them on my bed. These guys usually appear more often in big, old buildings, like when I was living in an old apartment building or a hostel. I usually half wake up, debate with myself, it's rude to shine a light in their faces,

get my phone, turn on a torch, and realize I'm alone in my room. Damn. That's very interesting. This is one of those. Other than these, I have super vivid dreams. So is that sleep paralysis? Because my understanding was you don't move during sleep paralysis. It seems to be they have a,

it's about being half asleep all the time. Damn. All right. And I have one last, I have one last letter. Okay. This comes from Jay. The swelling in my anus was unbearable. I felt like I had defecated a diamond.

Little I know this was just the beginning. The sheet over my nude body stuck to me like boxer briefs when one forgets to wipe. Where am I as all I could squeeze out of my sphincter tight throat? There was no response. I looked at my body and resembled the inside back end of a pair of dirty undergarments. Dark brown stains everywhere in a pain I could only describe as if someone were to tear the rectum open just a bit further. I looked around the room and resembled a truck stop restroom with less of the flair.

Well now a booming voice echoed from somewhere behind the stall looking doors. She was covered head to toe in filth and had a great brown mist over. Warning. This is not mud. I looked at her with fear. She slowly walked out of the room attempting not to touch anything. A heavy black woman in a white lab coat appeared out of one of the other stall like doors. Her confused gaze turned my stomach like right before diarrhea.

She had a roll of toilet paper hanging from a chain around her neck. You're lucky to be alive. My asshole. I barely pushed out. You died on the toilet at the Home Depot. You were sitting reverse style eating soup and you choked to death. She moved towards the table with a walk as if she had not been made into the toilet on time. They probably could have saved you but you had put your pants back on over the back of the toilet.

It took too long to cut you off there. The paramedics said that they've never seen anything like it before. The soup. I whispered. Campbell's straight from the can like some kind of homeless person. She wasn't looking anywhere near me. You look like you were really creating something special in there. Domination.

The janitor was not thrilled. She flipped the toilet paper around her neck and padded the tip of my penis. Her fingers were nice. A strange circling motion around the pee pee hole. Your body's a property of Home Depot now. But your penis. That is mine for now. I felt my dick harden.

I'm not dead. Yeah. Ignore the smell. Who forgets to wipe? I have never heard like no one has ever forgotten to wipe. That has never happened. I don't know. It's just a little taste of some of the lists are possible.

Oh my God. Well, I don't like this. That's not the right sentence to say after that a little taste of what we're going to give in the future here. But no. And next week I'm going to talk about the disappearance of Susan Powell. I can't wait to get into the story. Now, apparently there's also a Netflix special about that as well. So perhaps I'll give that a gander.

All right, everyone. Well, thank you all so much for listening. And again, the side story is LPOTLGmail.com. Submit your stories and we'll read them in our finest NPR voices. Love your life. You know what I mean? You got to love your life. Ah, sure.

Because other people are loving theirs. Right? You want to be like them. You got to catch up to them. It's always the horrible people that love their lives though. Yes, sometimes. Sometimes. It's always the earnest people that live with a sense of doubt.

All pervasive. You live each day wondering, am I a fraud? Am I an empty husk wandering just filled with electricity, just barely alive? But I'm living is what you say. I'm living. That's when you got to laugh. Yeah, laugh. And you're like, it's kind of funny that I got up this penis.

It's just a bunch of little meat flaps on me. But it makes all babies. Huh? It's kind of funny. I got big flappy. I got flappy meat loaves on the back of me. And my dookie comes out of that. And sometimes if you're a lady, you got flappy meat loaves on the front.

And that's where the peepee babies come out. So laugh at that. Indeed. You got to laugh at the human anatomy. It's a goofy, goofy thing. Although some people are born in test tubes. Created in a lab. Which I always wanted to be a lab baby.

All right, everyone. Thank you all so much for listening and never forget. Hail yourselves. Hey, you test tube babies. Hail Satan, man. All right, everyone. Magoostalations. Test tube, man.

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