Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: Russia's Werewolf Killer
Episode Date: December 13, 2018Ben and Henry get you caught up on this week's latest true crime news: The Angarsk Maniac, a basketball card featuring the Menendez brothers, and more. ...
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Hail yourselves, everyone!
There's no place to escape to.
This is the last talk on the left.
Side stories!
Love your glids.
That's when the cannibalism started.
Side stories, yes.
I finally got to watch the documentary that came out this year with George Knapp
and Jeremy Corbell called Hunt for the Skinwalker about Skinwalker Ranch.
Have you read anything into Skinwalker Ranch?
No, I haven't heard that.
I mean, I know it's creepy stuff.
It is creepy stuff.
I mean, obviously, I've read into it.
You know, and I read Hunt for the Skinwalker when it first came out,
but now watching the doc, it's nice to see
what its Skinwalker Ranch actually looks like,
and it's pretty fucking creepy.
And I really know that Bigelow,
Robert Bigelow, the UFO
bajillionaire, like the guy basically
who was an aerospace millionaire,
who dumped a bunch of money into UFO research,
like our patron saint,
the patron saint of rich nerds.
So he could pay,
we could do six flies on us with him.
We got to get to him.
We got to get to him,
and I think a good way to do it, Kissel, honestly,
is that if you dress up as a sexy woman
and arrive on the doorstep of Robert Bigelow,
and be like, huh, you doing big boy
and looking for someone to kick me to six flakes,
and you'll be like,
you're the tallest sack of woman I've ever seen in my life.
And I want to see just
how long your pussy grows.
Well,
you'll be very impressed.
Alright, this is Side Stories, everyone.
I am Ben Kissel. We got Henry Zabrowski over there.
Yeah. In much nicer weather
in Los Angeles,
but we're not talking about the weather today.
We have a lot of other things to get to, including the air-dair.
I don't want to talk about the weather, but I will say
it was really cold yesterday. I did have to put on a hoodie.
Oh.
I did have to go.
I mean, because Wendy has to walk in her jacket.
I know.
Because she legitimately will not exit the house
if it's not 65 degrees or hotter.
Isn't that...
Your struggle is real.
It is.
Alright, we got a bunch of news to get to today.
We could, man, or we could just sit around
and talk about the changes
of our bodies or what's happening
as we get older.
We could talk about that. We could talk about...
We could call it old man stoop hour.
It's getting harder to lose weight
is what I'm finding.
I feel like it's your lifestyle.
Yeah, if you don't work out or anything.
You're not even attempting to lose weight.
No, you used to be able to just lose weight.
It would just go off your body
and now it just stays on your body
and I don't know what the heck is going on.
You were addicted to uppers
and drinking vodka and seven up.
That's all you drink.
You're a soda guy.
Alright.
You're a soda guy. That's a mixer.
Yeah, I love these. I love the sodas.
Anyway, you got to start drinking seltzer.
I know what I'm supposed to be doing.
Because you get the bubbles, you get the cut.
You don't listen to me.
I sit and I talk and I advise and I advise
and I advise and you never respond.
You never change.
Your only advice is more bubbles.
You're just like put more bubbles in it.
More bubbles.
I'm just saying you can sort of convince yourself
that water is beer if there's bubbles in it.
Well, that's very true.
Okay, let's start off
with this story.
We're going all the way to Russia.
Oh, yeah.
This story is crazy, man.
There is something about
Russian serial killers.
We'll have to cover this dude
or another one in the future.
They are special.
Especially as more information comes out
about this more recent guy.
We have a Russian serial killer policeman.
He's found guilty of 56 more murders
which take his count
up to, I believe,
it is 78 murders.
Yes, in 2015
he was convicted of killing
22 women.
He is now confessed to 56.
As Henry said, he was a Siberian cop.
He raped and killed women
after offering them late night rides.
He was found guilty of dozens more
murders this week.
So he is now...
His name is Mikhail Popkov.
He's also known as
the very brief Anzion
by Russian media.
Now, he got a pretty cool...
I gotta say, as far as monikers go,
as far as nicknames go for serial killers,
the werewolf,
that's not the worst nickname I've ever heard.
I'll put it this way.
It seems to be the more brutal your crimes are,
the cooler your nickname, which is unfortunate for society.
Because then you're shooting for the nickname.
You know what I mean?
You want to be called the Grim Reaper.
You want to have a good one.
It can't just be like,
I don't know, like the
the Doughboy of Wilmington,
and then all your job is that you just kill people
with dough, like you surround their heads
with dough at night, and it turns out it's
Paul Hollywood, you know, flying
into the United States from the UK.
But no, the Doughboy...
That would be terrible shit
to be called the werewolf.
Absolutely.
And so his job was, he was a cop
and he used to drive around with his cop car also,
because he became,
I believe he stopped, he retired
in, I want to say,
1998.
Whatever it is, if a cop is off duty,
they're just a citizen.
So just don't even bother, you don't get in their car,
don't do anything.
Just treat a cop like you would anybody else
and say, I'm fine officer, I'll walk.
But it's very difficult,
because he had the car, I could,
you could see why, you could see why people
trusted them, and a part of what he would do is
he would target women alone at night,
specifically either sex workers or anyone
who looked like they were drunk, because in his terms
his job was to
cleanse people who lived a
debauched lifestyle.
Okay, so now what is this called?
What is that trope called with serial killers
who think they're doing it for the greater good?
He's a missionary killer.
Which unfortunately is the most boring
sex style, but it's one of the more
interesting serial killer types.
Yeah, and depending on who you're with
it can also be a very romantic position
sexually. I'd just like to see
what's happening. Absolutely.
He was also known as the
Engarsk maniac,
because he was
an off-duty officer around his city of
Engarsk, it's near
Erkskuk, it's about
Erkskuk, it's about
600 miles east of Moscow,
so he got the werewolf and the
Engarsk maniac, so
how does he do it?
Erkskuk is actually named after the man who founded
the town, is that they actually rolled them into
werewell and curse is the sound
you make when you're drunk and trying to
get yourself out of a wheelbarrow.
I think I've heard that before.
It's an incredibly important risk
placement, as well.
In terms of if you're trying to block
your way in and out of Russia, because
that's where Erkskuk's
I believe in risk,
it has the land bridge over to Alaska
if you want to attack North America,
which is a really good thing to have in risk.
That's where you kind of want to build up your forces.
It's like building up your forces in Southeast Asia
if you're holding sort of like an Australia
rain, you build your forces, build your forces in Australia,
then you move your infantry
up through Asia. You know what, Henry?
I'd love to play a game of risk with you.
Oh yeah, I love
the game. Are you being fucking sarcastic?
No. You fucking
No, I like risk. Risk is good.
I used to play it on my PC when I was growing up.
Yeah, but how big are you to those
pieces? You know what I mean? You can't even
find them. They just get stuck in your dimples.
The question is, how did
you do it? How did this dude
how did Popkov, this maniac
what did he use to kill these people?
Well, not
pleasant weaponry to say the least.
Come on, Gissel. Yes, obviously not.
Well, I mean honestly
like when you're like, when you think about
Berkowitz, you're like a gun. Okay, I can think about this.
This dude used a hammer and
an axe and then he would dump the bodies
in the woods at the side of the road. And
he also dumped bodies in the cemetery.
But the thing is, you still
got to take the body out of the cemetery
and then you got to bring him back to the cemetery.
He's not making anyone's lives easier.
You're making undertakers happy when you just drop
fresh corpses into the cemetery because they love
to work. It technically is a job greater
but he is
he would lull them into the car
they would, he would lull them to the conversation
then he'd either hit them with a hammer or immediately start stabbing them.
And what he did know is that eventually
when they were originally searching for Popkov
what they found, what they found was that it was somebody
who was very good at cleaning off a body.
So they suspected for a while that it was a
police officer. Somebody who knew
how people do
knew how to people investigate crimes.
So what he did was essentially do it in a way
really random
and drop it off, drop them
off into a far from where they were
murder, which was on the side of the car.
And then you're also controlling the crime scene, right?
Because your car is the crime scene.
So as long as they don't get to the car
which eventually they did
they eventually did because they found them doing
random DNA tests. Yes, they
found him while they were doing
random DNA tests. Because they
found the, they basically went
through everybody that drove the make of car
that matched tracks that were found
in the crime scene. Okay, so now
he is 54 years old.
He appeared in court again, as we said
earlier, this past week
and he is going to go to a Super Max
prison. The Super Max
prison is nicknamed the Black
Dolphin. No. Which I don't
know why it's called the Black Dolphin.
But it sounds horrifying.
Have you looked into the Black Dolphin at all?
No, but he is also accused
of, again, as we mentioned earlier, raping
at least 11 women. And we know what
dolphins do. So perhaps
it's, perhaps it's
something to do with the
horrors that occur behind prison walls.
Have you not seen this?
It was actually, I believe it was
in, it was in lockdown
at some point. It is one of the
most brutal prisons in the world.
It's called Black Dolphin because it was
it had a prisoner constructed
sculpture of a Black Dolphin
in front of it, which I guess is nice
to give them something to do. But the prison
houses, according to Wikipedia, the prison
houses approximately
700 of the most serious criminals
in Russia. Now what they do,
man, this is fucking rough.
Inmates are kept isolated and housed
in cells that have a set of
three steel doors. For
90 minutes a day, they are transported
to a large cage for
exercise. During this time, cells
are searched for contraband. Prisoners
at Black Dolphin are then kept under
24-hour supervision.
They are not permitted to rest or sit
on their bunks from the time
they are awoken until it is time to sleep
again. A span of 16
hours. Every 15 minutes
a guard makes rounds to ensure
inmates are complying with the rules.
The prisoners are fed soup four times a day
so that's good for you. You love soup?
I love a good soup, especially in a cold
Russian winter, sure.
I feel like it's not good soup, it's not
it's not gonna be no hail and hardy. I mean honestly
at this point it does sound better than
the American Supermax
in American Supermax, you don't get soup
you get that loaf, you get the
prison loaf, which is all the food combined
into one disgusting thing, one nasty thing.
Yeah, but that's how it comes out.
That's how it comes out. In order to speak
with any guard, you have to refer
to them and the words yes sir
but in Russian it directly translates to
it is so citizen chief
which is intense, that's very intense
I'm gonna start saying that to people. But the
big thing was that they use blindfolds
when they bring the prisoners in so they can't
even map out the prison and if they're transferring
them between cells they blindfold them and then
they cart them back and forth in a
stress position where they handcuffed
their backs behind their backs
and then lift up the hands
above their hips so they're
forced to bend forward so
it's very difficult for them to escape.
It is not a comfortable situation
to say the least. Prosecutors
they described Popkov as having
quote a pathological
attraction to killing people
but that's not good. If only it was
a pathological attraction to
baked goods. I know he would be great.
And then he would crush. He would crush cooking channel.
They need a Russian. He could be the
Martha Stewart of Russia but instead he's
just another Russian serial killer.
The prosecutors also say he is
quote a homicidal. He has
homicidal mania with sadistic
elements but he was ruled
sane enough to stand
trial. I mean I would assume
that he is sane enough. He wasn't
a fucking cop for at least six years
while these murders were happening.
But they also do a thing
in Russia. Man a fucking court system
that's very entertaining because they keep them
in a big cage. Oh yeah. And so they just go
like. No, no, no, no. God
I would love to do it. Just be in there
for weed charges and it's just me going like
well man well like run around
the cages and shit. It'd be kind of fun like
am I a fucking zebra dude?
Am I a fucking zebra dude? I think they
might just shoot you on the spot.
They're allowed to.
Do you think I'm going to make it in Black
Dolphin? Honestly.
I have to
throw up pants because they don't find them comfortable.
Sure. You mean like I have to
I'm wearing I'm switching to all athleisure.
Oh that's you're going to do that.
Because in LA it's technically
high class. I can have elastic on
in LA because they consider it chill.
I know what the wealthy people have been trying to
pass off as high class now for some time.
They just want to wear sweat pants like every person
in the Midwest but they want to feel like they're superior.
Give in. Kissell give in.
I like the Midwest look.
You're not wearing them. No all of my pants
are stretch pants.
They all stretch.
Those Adidas gear are really nice.
The Adidas pants those track pants
are really nice. Alright. Well
investigators say they uncover the remains of some victims
of the bodies of course
that Popkov killed
and as well as finding
murder weapons including axes,
screwdrivers and knives.
So the guy I mean
it's pretty disgusting.
That's how they committed him of the 56 more crimes.
They realized they went through and they were finding
corroborating evidence to the things he was saying.
He was directing them to bodies
so he went and they found bodies
they found weapons. There was one that he didn't find.
He also killed one police officer randomly.
It was the last person that he killed.
He killed a drunk police officer that I guess
just out of pure jealousy or gamesmanship.
I'm not really sure.
If you're in Russia and if one of your
pet peeves is drunkenness
that's not the place to be.
Holy shit. It's just under Ireland.
I mean you do not want to be
in Russia if you hate alcoholics.
You want to go to Utah. Being in America
and hating people with big dreams.
That's right.
So speaking
of big dreams I guess again
because apparently
he had them. He wanted to be the most
notorious serial killer in Russian history
and it looks like
he has pulled that off.
So the number of killings for which he has been convicted
exceeds the total
of several notorious murderers
in Russia and the ex-Soviet Union.
Those murderers include Alexander
Peshushkin
aka the chess board killer
which is a great, great story.
Cool. Maybe we could
cover that one. He killed
48 mostly older women
and he would meet them in a park in Moscow
probably the saddest place in the world.
He aimed to kill one person for each
of these 64 squares
on a chess board
which is why he's the chess board killer.
Yeah man, it's simple. I mean honestly
you're turning into Mysterio.
That's a great super villain.
It's so crazy.
And then of course Andre Ciccatello who we covered
you can go and listen to our old episodes
on Ciccatello.
He was convicted of killing 52. So this dude
we had another
I don't want to say best. What's another word?
Travis isn't speaking too much today
because he's super sick. I'm in sicko mode.
Heavy hitter.
I guess he is a new heavy hitter.
Look at this.
You know what else saying, because a lot of people were saying
that we weren't going to get new serial killers in this digital age
because it was difficult to catch them
because we're so ever-present in the social media
but we got Samuel Little
that may possibly top the charts
of American serial killers in terms of numbers
and we got a new Russian guy. We may be heading
into a nude. I don't want to say
Golden Era because it's very frightening
but it seems like we're in a place where we're
getting a lot of new serial killers coming out of the woodwork
and that's allowing last podcast
to continue deep into the 2020s.
In a sense it is the Golden Era
of finding out how many people these folks
have killed and you know they're already
arrested so it's
not as bad as
I don't think that you can be
a new
I don't think you could pull off
79 murders today. I still don't think
you could do it. He just did.
No, he didn't just do it. He did it in
1990.
From 1992
to 2012.
Yeah, but in Russia 2012
it's not American 2012.
They got like, I don't want to malign
and disparage the Russian people
but their technology isn't exactly...
I've seen a lot of dash cam footage.
But the dash cam footage is actually pretty clear.
It's pretty good but that's kind of where
you're at dash cam. Yeah, if you've seen
the movie it's called The Road Movie
it's a Russian dash cam movie
and it's all about just Russians
Grand Theft Auto style killing people
on the streets. That's awesome.
That's how you can kill 76
people in Russia. That's awesome.
Well this dude, so Popgolf... I mean that's
bad. It's very bad.
Popgolf is
apparently he's boasting
to salamates and he's
bragging that he has killed
more people than Chickatello. So this guy
I guess he wanted
to come clean about the murders. Obviously
the DNA evidence helped but he's
proud of himself I suppose.
It is very interesting because we have another social
media very cognizant
murder that happened in Russia
which with the... I cannot
even pronounce it if I wanted to
the DPRS
maniacs, which I believe was also
known as... was it
Three Kids One Hammer? I'm looking
this up.
It was Three Kids One Hammer. It was directly after
they named after a sort of a
horrible parody of Two Girls One
Cup where they were going to fly
film themselves murdering people with a hammer
and then
they were going to try to sell the videos
on the black market.
Jeez. Well how'd they do? Great.
Great. Oh my god. They did great.
No, they didn't do great. They were fucking turned in
in all that part. Good. Well let's
stay with the world of technology.
I keep trying to help you
by giving you old tidbits. I told you
I told you things you can eat. I told you
things you can wear and I'm hoping I can pull you out of this
come into the athleisure lifestyle.
It's how basketball players dress. I know
but I'm not a basketball player. They also work
out all the time and they sweat.
No, Shaq was fat.
Well Shaq got fat. I love
fat Shaq. I love fat Charles
Barkley too. My favorite.
Alright, well let's stay in the world
of the internet. But let's come back
to America.
Specifically Colorado legalized
it and they are making
a lot of money. Be careful in Colorado
though folks. I had a
one of those drinks. It was like an orange
drink. Each ounce was
100 milligrams. You got to
read the label. Yeah, but I don't
why would they even put, why would they put
1200 milligrams of weed
in something you're supposed to drink. 12 ounces
is not a lot. Cause it's fun.
Oh my god. This is back, this is
back before. You're talking about, that is
more ancient weed technology. Now it is
way more spaced out in LA.
It's so fucking pussy.
They really make it so difficult to get the stuff
that'll blind you in LA.
Honestly, you have to really mash a bunch of stuff
together to fucking ruin your life.
Well, please, please
don't. You as a blind man will just be
it'll be. Where am I?
Where am I?
Who will feed me? Are you
are you a spy? Are you a spy?
So you refuse to give up your driver's license
just still driving all around
Los Angeles just screaming.
I just drive until they honk.
So in Brighton, Colorado
a Colorado man
who told police he shot a teenager
this is the story that we're getting to here in Colorado
a Colorado man who told
police he shot a teenager in the head
and this is where the story becomes a little strange
after she hired
him to kill her via
a Craigslist ad. He pleaded
guilty to second-degree murder
and this was put last week Monday
as part of a plea agreement with the prosecutors
the dude's name is Joseph Lopez
who had been charged with a first-degree murder
now again the plea deal says the second-degree
murder to avoid
a possible life sentence of killing
19 year old Natalie
Ballinger. So this story is pretty crazy
he does look like a man
who crossed the lines from Reddit
over to Craigslist that would
answer the ad to kill
a woman. Unfortunately
he has got the wispiest
rat-like van dyke I have ever seen
in my life.
It is unfortunate. I'm just looking
at the face of Reddit atheism
as I'm sitting here. This is a picture
of it. It's his face. So he shot
he shot Natalie Ballinger I guess
in the head and then the body
was found in a wooded area just
north of Denver in late December
one day after
she was reported missing. This is according to
Adams County District Judge Roberto Ramirez
Batting for
Roberto Ramirez
He's sent to Lopez
Lopez is a younger dude at 23
years old and he's going to serve a
maximum of
48 years in prison so that's a maximum
of 48 years so he'll
probably end up getting out in around
20 to 25 I would assume.
Well he was having a lot of fun
browsing the women seeking men
section of Craigslist which may as well
just be called booby trap
world. I mean honestly because
there was no reason for
a woman to go to Craigslist to seek a man
you just have to leave your house
You have a better chance of finding
a woman on Ashley Madison by the way
that site is full of all men
than finding a woman on Craigslist.
You know it's actually a pretty good get
honestly if you were I would actually work
at sugardaddies.com
You just have to have cash money. Well I can't
yeah I mean no sugar daddy wants to hire
me. No I'm not saying you
Can I solicit a sugar daddy is that what
you're saying? No we're talking about it
you're talking about we're looking for sponsors. Oh I see
That's called our ad campaign
That's our sugar daddy. This is
according to court records Lopez told police
that he responded to a Craigslist ad titled
quote I want to put a hit
on myself I don't this
is it's very bizarre to me
this it does have sort of a
dumber shade of Dr. Kvorkian
there's a little something Kvorkian here
I guess why
Well according to him
According to him a Dr. Kvorkian
you know what's the key to Dr. Kvorkian?
Doctor. You got a doctor
Doctor you went to school for a bunch of years
He's going against the Hippocratic oath
is what I heard. But I heard also
them people were begging for it and sometimes
you got to give them what they want. Except for Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson didn't know what he wanted
Well who knows what Michael Jackson wanted
So he just wanted to dance. All he wanted to do
was make his father smile. Yes and
that did not. I don't think that ever happened
and by the way the only thing that Marcus
and Henry refused to believe in this world
Joe Jackson
He made
Michael Jackson a eunuch
He when he called that
It's just so good. It's so bizarre
your obsession with this
He castrated. Joe Jackson castrated
Michael Jackson. That's what
happened. Absolutely bizarre
Well it happened because
that's what the family says happened and you're not going to believe
I want to see the autopsy reports
I want to see a picture of his and no dick
Well
I don't think he went full heavens gate
I think he had something going on
But his father castrated him so he could keep that
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His prosecutor said Lopez should have called
911 or found help for
Bollinger after he saw the ad
Bollinger
And Lopez texted each other
Dozens of times before he picked her up
And they drove around for an extended period
Before he killed her
He didn't respond as a human being
That was according to
Chief Deputy District Attorney
Ali Baber
Who also says he responded as a
Predator when it comes to the Craigslist ad
So I guess
I believe so because he clicked on it thinking about
I'm gonna say one look at this guy
Is that to be completely frank
I think his first idea
Is
This girl so sad maybe she'll sleep with me
I mean like there's almost like a thing
Where it's like I'll get her now
While she wants to die
I could get one in there
Real quick because
She is debased
I feel like that's what his thinking was
Maybe something was going wrong
Take a look at the autopsy of this dude
I don't think he's gonna do well in prison
He kind of looks like a Jack Black character
From Nacho Libre
I think he's probably gonna get pummeled
On a regular basis in many
Different ways which of course is never good
But Bollinger's family
Is extremely pissed off
About the plea deal
They say it's a spit in my family's face
That's according to Ted Bollinger
He says there's no justice in this
And he argued that the court didn't make his family
Aware of the pending plea deal
As soon as it should have
So people aren't happy that he's
Gonna be getting out within his lifetime
Because again he's only 23
Serving a maximum of 48
I know but they fucking
It's all this horseshit
I mean he's a waste of space
I don't think he's gonna do well in jail
I don't think it even matters
His life is over as it is
He said that she wanted to get over it as quick as possible
And she wouldn't accept being talked down
About it as what she said
Interesting I would like to hear
If this did go to trial
She does have a defense right
Well she solicited
Obviously I disagree with it
But that would be the defense
And I think it would have been really interesting to hear
A lawyer go in there and talk about it
I can't that would be me as the prosecutor
Going like shut up shut up
I feel that you are
I mean I don't know I feel like you have a lot of options here
Like don't do it
Like a big option is like don't do it
I'm just saying sometimes defense attorneys
Hit a lucky
Hit a lucky streak
You know and they're able to convince
A jury that well this was nothing
But more than assisted suicide
And perhaps there's a juror
Who doesn't think there's anything wrong with that
I think it would have been interesting to see the trial
That's all I mean sure
I mean I always like the dirty details
That's why we do our fucking show
But a part of it is that when you see him do it
It's just that thing you look at
It's like you could just don't ask somebody to kill him
If you're gonna ask somebody to kill you
I'd say like
Shoot for the top
Try to get it to be Keanu Reeve's stress is John Wick
Oh that would be awesome
That'd be pretty sweet but you know how you actually
Just get him to kill you naturally
You just show up and you kill his dog
Oh my god don't even say it
I don't want it to be like this
Alright well let's move on
What story do you want to do next Henry
There's a fun ass story that I've been sent
Many many times but I like to go into it
Because it's kind of funny
Menendez brothers appearing
In the background of
Former Nick's point guard Mark Jackson's
Hoopsguard
And if you see this picture it is absolutely
Fantastic and they did the
They are there
It works for the timeline
The Menendez family murder
Happened on August 20th, 1989
The brothers were apprehended in March
Of 1990
There's a gap there
And it seems that the picture
Must have been taken at MSG
In 1989 to 1990
Because it was supposed to come out for 1990
To 1991
And it checks out because they spend
A lot of their parents money and a part of what they
Spent it on was courtside
Seeds for the Knicks
It's such a funny first of all
Great era for the Knicks
They were really coming up here
I was really excited for you to put your input
On this because I know how happy
You would be that the Knicks get a bump
And the Menendez brothers
They got courtside seats
You pay for it
Yeah man they inherited
$14.5 million
They got $14.5 million for killing
Their parents through inheritance
So of course the first thing you do
You don't do this anymore
No one rich is like I'm going to sit
Of a courtside watching the Knicks
Because they'll probably just end up having to play
In the game to try to get a point scored
For that damn team
Don't even give me, I'm a fan
I'm a fan, I'm just a little heart broken
You don't sound like a pan
He's the worst owner in sports
And quite frankly I wish
His children were
Were like no I'm not going to say it
You are calling for his death
No
No I'm not going to say it
The secret, the most brutal member
Of last podcast and the last wishing
For the death of a basketball coach
I agree with you
If you take a look at the card
They don't even look interested
I wonder if they're thinking about the fact
That they murdered both of their parents
Do you think they had
That had to be there
At any time they had to look at each other
And be killed to their parents
And Mark Jackson just had another great assist
How do you
No I think that they might have
Thought about it, yeah sure
I feel like they were pretty happy
With the fact that they got courtside tickets
But actually for me
Looking at it is that
They look like they're having a good time
I guess by Menendez brothers
Standards they don't seem to be smiley
Or anything
They got bad faces
But they seem to be kind of there
He's got his nicks hat on
They seem to be enjoying it
I don't know
They just wanted to be on the scene
They got those fancy new cars
You know what's the really silver lining
Is that the Who's Mark Jackson card
It's actually shifted from
It used to be 15 to 20 cents on eBay
You can get it for up to 15 dollars
Wow
15 dollars
I love everyone growing up
Do you remember the trading card
Phase or trend where everyone's like
You never know this is going to be worth
Thousands one day or even millions
Same thing with comic books and they're just not
Didn't your dad buy like all the Superman
Versus when Superman died
He bought three of them and he's like
It's just so you can read one
One I got so I make sure it's safe
And one you get to make sure it's safe
So nothing happens to it because it's going to pay for your college
And it was that and it was the same thing
Yeah I had so many baseball I remember how happy
I was with my Phil Sims rookie
Card that I had
And I was just like this is going to be fancy
This is my ticket
I did that with Beanie Babies by the way
You were in the Beanie My Mom did Beanie Babies
She had to buy Mother Law
Filled with Beanie Babies that are worthless
The Beanie Baby?
I'm not sure that's the only one
I'm certain that there are several of them that are like
When the world final makes its turn
Towards the age of Aquarius
Beanie Babies will be the new money
It's possible
It's possible
Well let's stick in the world of sports
Well no because that came up to
There were other stories that looked it up
One link to it is that other stories of
People with embarrassing
The one that came up was a
A man named Bill Ripken
Who had a
Photo taken for
I forget what season this was
I believe in January 1989
Where was this?
He had a great year that year I guess
And they took a picture for his baseball card
But they didn't realize that underneath the car
I guess it's the knob
Of the baseball bat
What do you call the bottom of it?
Yeah the knob, it's his knob
Fuckface
And it got published
Which is pretty great
It's pretty good
What ensued was absolute chaos
Because they found out the error's card price
And it ended up raising to nearly $500
Which is pretty
Pretty great
But for nearly 20 years
Bill Ripken hasn't told the whole story
Until finally he revealed
With this story
Of this bullshit
And he actually revealed the true story of it
Where he said
I got a dozen bats in front of my locker
During the 1988 season
I pulled the bats out, model lard 161
And noticed because of the grain patterns
That they were too heavy
But I decided I'd use one of them at the very least
For my batting practice bat
Now I had to write something on the bat
At Memorial Stadium the bat room was not too close
To the clubhouse so I wanted to write something
That I could find immediately
If I looked up and it was 444
A minute later and not be late
There were 5 big grocery carts with the bats in there
And if I wrote my number 3
It could be too confusing so I wrote fuckface on it
I love it
But the thing is he lied about this for years
And he said it was a prank against him
Because he's kind of a jackass in the clubhouse
Yes
What a guy
I love baseball players man
I always remember how horrible Joe but Chamberlain was
When he used to go into
Quote-unquote guest bartend at Eddie's Bar
Which is
He was never officially asked
To bartend
But he definitely would go back there
And definitely was a huge asshole
Well, Joba was not that bad
He was nice before
He didn't want people to think
He was drinking so all he did
Was get Long Island iced teas
Which is more than I drink
No one believed he was iced tea
You reek of liquor
And Eddie used to go
He would actually call
Joba used to call Eddie
From the clubhouse
In the pan before he would go on the field
And be like yo
Have the sliders ready for me
And make sure you got more tea
Like all this fuck
I know for a fact
I would party with him
Until like 4 o'clock in the morning
And they would have like a noon game
He had to be hammered
He had to be hammered while pitching
But that's how baseball players used to be
All the time
Yeah, I mean this was 2012
Whatever
He's keeping history alive
He's keeping the heart of the game alive
You remember that movie for the love of the game
Of course
Alright, well let's go on
I ended up being in the middle of the
I feel like a lot of the country
I didn't realize how big the story was
Until I saw the episode of 2020 about Chris Watt
And the murder of his family
You won't cover it in depth
Go watch it ABC 2020
It's pretty sweet
Man it's scary
The idea of just meeting somebody on Facebook
Because they, number one
Facebook is just a barren land now
I don't know what the fuck Facebook is now
God knows
But a part of it is
If you meet somebody on Facebook
You don't know who you're meeting
Even if you even marry them and have children with them
Two years later
So anyway
For those that maybe haven't heard about this story
This is national, this is one that
Henry and I were talking before
Both of our mothers would have been glued
To 2020 and Dateline
And 60 Minutes
This is a story that goes across the country
Chris Watt, he has been found guilty
And received a life sentence without
The possibility of parole
He killed his pregnant wife Shannon
Both of his daughters Bella and Celeste
And then they had an unborn son
They were going to name Nico
No one really knows why the hell he did it
According to Shannon's parents
He was like a chill dude
They said that he never like yelled
Or got upset, nothing but nice
He was freaked out about the new pregnant woman
And then he started hitting on a chick
At work and they started having a very intense
Love affair, my thing is I was trying to figure out
How he murdered them and I actually haven't seen that yet
How did, this is a fun Google search
How did Chris Watt's
Murder his family
This is my whole life
This is just a little, if you want to just see
What it's like to just be on last podcast and left
It's just this, you just say this
How did it happen
And then someone tells you horrible shit
Oh, he tried to blame it on the wife
He tried to say he killed the wife
Because she saw her strangling the kids
Well he had a whole series of lies
And of course this dude
After they were murdered he texted with his
Girlfriend about their future
Behind closed doors
Or say he giggled when he told police
He had nothing to do with their disappearance
He did that whole thing
Where he went in front of the cameras
And he had the crocodile tears
Like in Wayne's world where he's like
I'm not mad, I'm not mad
And then it's like the Oscar
Speech that he gives as he splashes water onto his face
I'm just going to tell you this
This is for all you people out there
When you're talking to a guy alone at a bar
And he drops the line when he says
Because that's how he met this woman
Him and his wife are currently separated
And they're on their way to getting divorced
And this is how you can tell if this is not true
Look at the ring finger
If the dent is still there
Right, because now I'm starting
To get the dad dent
I'm starting to get the married man dent
And it stays, right
So if you still see the dent
That ring has come off
Within hours, or even days
Alright, it is fake
Look for the rut
Because that's how you know
Look for the rut
Words of wisdom
The girlfriend's name is Nicole Kessinger
Now she's a 30 year old
She was a co-worker at Anadarko
She told the Denver Post
They had just met
And she says I barely knew him
So this dude, this is classic
With guys who are like in relationships for a long time
They just assume that like
Other women want to have sex with them
And then they're just like
This relationship, she's just gonna love me
And we'll just be like right in
We're already in a three year relationship
Because they just want to replace their wife
And they don't even think about the other person
Being like, who are you?
Because it's all about them
It's all about this guy living some fantasy life
That he thinks that his marriage is like
He's sick of his marriage
Even though he's fully in on it
He's fully on it, but his wife, Shanaan Watts
Was like a full on
Facebook, social media
24x7, their relationship was
Constantly on display
So a part of it was, you can kind of see
He thinks he's living this fake life with the woman
Who essentially is broadcasting every moment of their day
But she's wildly happy
She's just happy
And she's just one of those people that does that
She is a mid 30s person
Who got obsessed with Facebook
And the potential to reach people
And then she became working for a PR company
That did these vitamin patches
So she also used it for work
And he obviously maybe even got disillusioned
With it and instead of like
Doing what a normal human does
Which is speak to your partner
Or figure it out and do the work
You live this kind of sick gross double life
Where you're supposed to be pretending
You're pretending to have some
Illicit affair with somebody else
Or a genuine relationship
Which is all predicated on a lie
And none of it's true
None of that passion is real
Shanaan did tell her friend
That her relationship seemed to be a little bit
Slow going at the time
This was on August 7th
She texted a buddy and she said
He has changed
I don't know who he is
He hasn't touched me all week
Or kissed me
So she was feeling a lack of intimacy
But of course that does not mean
That you're going to kill your fucking family
Because you go through a week of
Maybe lacking intimacy or something
So it's still
A sensational news outlet
Brutal because he sent
In this letter dated July 3rd
Which is a month before all of this
Shit went down to his mistress
He sent one of these dumbass cards
That are very hallmarky which says
Nicky, a year of stuff that you love to do
A brand new dreams to may come true
One that brings you smiles and laughter
And fills your heart with love
Long after and he sends it
He sent that to the mistress?
But no that was like in the card
Which is, the sun's up you
Big things will happen this year
Dreams will come true, that smile, that stare
That laugh, that giggle
Gets me every time
You are truly amazing, inspirational
An electric woman that takes my breath away
Every time I see you
You are wonderful, don't ever stop
Being you
Three exclamation points
Happy birthday!
Laying it on a little bit
Thick
Such a dad
Hit, like that is such a dad
Hitting on someone for the first time
In like five years
It's like ok bro, tap the brakes
Just a little bit here
Here's another letter, wow where do I even start
The first day I saw you you took my breath away
The first day I had the guts to talk to you
Lost in those stunning green eyes
The first day we hung out in the park together
I knew I was addicted
The first time we kissed I knew
I had met the most amazing, unique
An electric woman
We have a lot of firsts together
I'm not going to keep having them with you
All night till the sun's come back
I want to love, want to love
I want to love you like that
This guy is so
Corny
You keep my engine roaring when you're pushing
The pedal, I can't resist the feel
I can't resist the feel
You put me on another level
Laying it on thick
Is that every
I think many women would be like
We just went out for a lunch date
Maybe she would have just
You just shown these letters to your wife
And she would have just blown her brains out
It's just that thing
I feel that it's really important
Because a part of it is that
It's being honest while you're in a relationship
And this kind of this concept that you can go sneak around
There is nothing more
Pathetic than a married man
Trying to sneak around on the side
No, and it's honestly
Not that it's a bad thing, but with technology
The way it is now, good luck
Good luck my friend
My goodness, so obviously
This guy had some
Grant, some grandiose
Ideas of the love that he was going
To have in the future with this
30 year old co-worker, Nicky
No one is really happy obviously in Shannon's family
That's an understatement
But this is according to Shannon's brother, Frankie
This is what he told Watts
At sentencing, he says
I pray that you never have a moment's peace
Or a good night's rest in the cage
You'll spend every day for your life in
He went on to say, and one other thing
Shannon says she is super excited
For justice today, which I don't know
If she actually did, but it's good for the family
It is very good, but it's very
I mean, it's a fucked up story and we'll obviously
I'll be following it too, it's just something I was
Looking into, it was just like absolutely
Absolutely fucking horrifying
Alright, we'll move it on a little bit here
Amazon headquarters
Of course they treat their employees horrible
Jeff Bezos is really
Pushing to be supervillain of the year
Which I think needs to be the new title
I don't want to know the person of the year
Which is evidently the Golden State Warriors
Kind of aggravates me, that's 13 people
Including the coach, that's a lot of people
For one person
And I would also include the administration
That includes the janitors at the station
At the stadium, there's a lot of stuff going on there
If you just name a basketball team
It's like me just saying, you know who's like my
Person of the year? Who?
The Kebler Elves
Because the problem is that
You don't know really how many there are
There's three representatives
There's three representatives, you got Stinky
You got Grabby and you got Smiley
Right, is that their names?
I don't think Stinky is one of the Kebler Elves
It could be, it could be, sure
It's a Grabby and Smiley are two of them
I think his name is Richard
Yeah
It's Gripby
It's Gripby, Grabby and Smiley
Sounds problematic
But alright
Being a chef is a very difficult job
We don't know how many
Employees they had, that's what I'm saying
We don't, so anyway
Speaking of employees
And employees in a high number
Two dozen Amazon warehouse employees
In New Jersey were hospitalized
Wednesday when one
Is in critical condition
Because a stupid robot
Punctured a can
Of bear repellent
The news was soon picked up by the national outlets
And this of course, this story spread
Across social media
In total, 54 workers
At the Robbinsville, New Jersey facility
Were exposed to fumes, bear repellent
Is made with a bunch of like chili pepper
Extract and a whole bunch of stuff
That obviously is made to repel bears
So you can imagine what it does to people
The workers experienced trouble breathing
And they had sore throats
And their eyes burned
And evidently, this isn't even the first time
A robot has attempted to kill
All of the employees at an Amazon warehouse
This isn't the first bear repellent issue
What is going on
With the robot kill machines
We had the Uber driver
We had the Uber car, that killed somebody
There was another, there's a series
Of robot murders that are not being
Talked about nearly enough
Because the government wants to keep you quiet
In Germany in 2015
At a Volkswagen factory
Someone was crushed to death by a stationary robot
These are not robot murders
Okay, I'm gonna say this honestly
They're robot murders
No, robot murders is if a robot shows up
At your house
And says, I want your wife
And then fucking murders you
That's a robot murder
This is how it starts
This is how it starts
This is it
The Dallas police department
Remember that one dude, what was his name
Michael something, he went crazy
He started shooting all those cops over in Dallas
Absolutely horrible, they used a robot
They exploded the robot right in front
Like it was straight out of call of duty black ops
They exploded the robot right in front of him
Killing him, and then of course as I said
With the Uber, the automated Uber car
And also one guy
In 2016, an Ohio man
Died when driving the self-driving Tesla
He crashed into a tractor trailer
Well he watched Harry Potter
That's his fault
He needs to be watching the road
He needs to be watching the road too
We're learning with the robots
I obviously, I mean Amazon has horrible
Ways of treating their employees
But I will say it's just like
Man, I got a shower head
I got my gold bond powder
And I got all of my
Soundproofing equipment in a day
So I understand that
People are getting killed to bring me these things
But
Would I not ask soldiers
To sacrifice for the freedom of this country
I mean honestly, what the soldiers do
And if we start treating them like soldiers
Or calling them soldiers at Amazon
Then it's just bravery
To work there
Okay, well honestly if they got
Good health insurance, which you know
The soldiers probably need better health insurance
But I think if they were treated
Well they need mental health insurance
That kind of shit
All the robots shit
They're starting to sell exoskeletons
I saw that, yes
And so the other incident happened
In 2015 regarding bear repellents
In an Amazon warehouse
And that was the fire department
Responded to the accident at the Amazon facility
In Haslett, Texas
That was caused by a robot
Running over a can of bear repellent
Purposely running over a can
Of bear repellent
I don't think it was purposefully
That kind of bear repellent
It's biological warfare
And the robots know it
They can survive in a biological war
That's how they get us
We can shoot them, maybe explode them
But biological warfare, that's why they're going to be here forever
Honestly, I'm just glad
That we are hiring these robots
Because we have to
Because if not, we can't have them unemployed
Because can imagine how dangerous
Robot school shooters would be
That would be dangerous
We have
We want to do a little bit of a debunking
One quick thing I will say about the Amazon story
It's well, it's
It is a shame
How they sort of
Try to scrub these stories
These stories got pushed down very, very quickly
It was so hard
To find this story, I saw it one time
And then I googled
Robot death, Amazon warehouse
Nothing came up
It is like crazy how good they are
And they're about to be your neighbors
I know, over in Long Island City
They're going to put a lot of people out of business
And just judging
From the amount of HGH
And steroids that Jeff Bezos is on
I think he knows that his employees
Will eventually try to rise up
And beat the shit out of him and eat him
What he knows is that he has to be stronger
Than the robots as well
He's clearly on steroids
He is on 410
He's living the dream
That is sort of
That is the dream
The idea is that I could become a bigger person
I could start just injecting myself with HGH
If I become a millionaire
I'm going to fucking
Grow the beard out, I'm going to be a fucking jack
I'm going to look like a fucking cyber viking
You've been fantasizing about this look for a while
It's a lot of work
That's the problem
That's what's really difficult
I want to quickly debunk
A story that came out
A story of a Texas man
Saying he kidnapped and sexually assaulted
Seven and nine people while dressed as an alien
Is false
It came out saying that he
Drugged people with a mixture
Of LSD and PCP
And he came out in an alien costume
And stuck his fingers up their butt
In order to say that you're probing
While it is a wonderful idea
It's a horrible idea
It's a horrible idea
But in its horribleness
It seems to be
It was originally broke
By a news report
Called World News Daily Report
It is a well-known producer of junk news
Whose website features the following disclaimer
Saying that it is satirical
The identity of the elderly man
Shown in the mugshot was not immediately clear
But it did seem that the same mugshot
Appeared in a blog post
Which was for a mugshot
Monday and it's just
A sad, it's just a
A guy who was an 80-year-old man
That was arrested for sexual battery
And it's just a website making fun of people's mugshots
Right, and of course this is another situation
We got a lot of emails
And DMs about this story
So we hate to be the bearer of bad news
In this case, good news
I am not gonna be fucking hoodwinked
By a British
Boy band again
I am not dealing with that
I will not let it stand
I will not negotiate with fucking terrorists
Alright, I do want to say this is another case
Where you look at the mugshot
And I think they just come up with a story
Around the mugshot
And this guy does kind of look like a gray
Sort of does, yeah
Kind of looks like an alien, so
It's a great writing prompt
His picture is great, and we want to do
A little bit of a story from a fan
Actually it doesn't really stay here
It doesn't stay here if he wants his name said or not
But in response to Kissel's revelation
That he's been using smooth moves
Tea for some reason
I used it once
I was looking for a smooth move
Now this comes from the, I'm just gonna say
The initials E.M.
In case he's trying to run for office or something
And so this is what he said
He had a very foul experience
With smooth moves tea
Senior year of high school
I was sick and I found a bunch of herbal tea
I didn't read the label very carefully
And shared some with my friend Judson
Who was sleeping over
Four to five cups of the stuff
Mistake, holy shit
Honestly, four to five cups of tea
Where do you the queen? I know what's going on buddy
Cut to 4.30 a.m.
I wake up and I have to shit worse
Than I ever have in my life
I go to the bathroom but the door is locked
Apparently Judson literally woke up five minutes
Before me also having to shit
I start pounding on the door yelling at him to hurry up
Because I'm gonna shit myself
He yells at me, we go yell back and forth
I freak out at this point
I have to shit in the kitchen sink
Until he finishes up
Judson you see was on the track team
That morning he had to run ten miles from the Chicago leaf front
I was pulling out of my garage to take him to the train
But I had to stop, pull back in
And take another shit before I could drive him anywhere
Once I got back home my sister came down the stairs
And confronted me saying
Hey the fuck drank all my laxative tea
We started cracking up
But in the same moment we stopped
Looked at each other in the eyes and said
Judson, tea?
Judson later told us what happened to him
And he got way worse than me
There he was at the start of his ten mile run
And pretty much immediately had to run a mile
In the opposite direction to go to a porta potty
And later on he said he had to stop
And shit in a bush that was super conspicuous
And he had so many issues
And he couldn't finish the race
And he had to wait in the coach's car
Literally covered in shit
So be careful with that shit
Honestly be careful with that shit
You have to wait in the coach's car
It's never for a good reason
You're either in trouble or you had too much laxative tea
Because nothing would fucking make me more
Rage filled
Than being like alright Judson
You can sit in my Audi
But under one fucking condition
You don't touch that interior
I'm gonna put a fucking towel down
I would never let a 15 or 16 year old sit in my new car
Covered in Duke
You don't know he's covered in Duke
There must have been some indications
I'm pretty
Just judging from my laxative tea experience
It's not
You know it's not a clean situation
I'm not going into detail here
But I'm sure
That they knew what was going on
Alright everyone
Well thank you all so much for listening
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Oh I almost
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You ain't laughing like this
You ain't laughing
Like I like people who don't
Fully laugh when they do this
Like you're just super chill
You're too chill to put a full emotional
Commitment of laughing
It kind of switches the laughter into I'm not actually
I don't think that's funny I'm actually just sort of like
Why are you talking to me
Yeah yeah when you do the thing
When you respond in a text where you go ha ha
And when I know you're not laughing
I know you're just trying to cover up
I do uh
I have laughed when I have said
The one I don't like is I don't like low
I don't like raffle because you are
Not rolling on the floor
I know you're not because it would be
So remarkable
I would be concerned for you if you were
You are having a seizure
If you're rolling on the floor
Also you know what I don't like
Just one ha
Yeah it's demeaning
And it's passive aggressive
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