Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: #ShakespearesSh*tstorm w/ Lloyd Kaufman

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

This week for a very special Side Stories, Ben 'n' Henry are joined by co-founder of Troma Entertainment, Lloyd Kaufman to discuss his new project #ShakespeareShitstorm, his prolific body of work, and his thoughts on modern mainstream culture, BUT FIRST were breakin' down this week's true crime news: a meth fueled sex-murder in Green Bay, an OnlyFans stalker caught hiding in content creator's house, Nude man caught pooping on neighbor's backyard table, the woman fighting to keep FART as her license plate and MORE!

There's no place to escape to. This is the last talk on the left side stories Man, oh man, I I think I finally shit out the rest of that deep dish. You got rid of it I'm still sitting in it. It is dude. I don't know. What was that place? What was a grinder? What was it called the grinder place? It was like I don't remember the name of that place that we got the pizza from No, that's the other one. He always being racist against Chicago. I think we got one from luka monadas Very very thin crust and no cats allowed I

We had this this type of upside down deep dish pizza in Chicago where it's like it looked like a mushroom tip Which is a wink. Yeah, wink a mushroom tip. It definitely looked like you could put a nipple on it Yeah, oh, yeah, I look like a big titty and that's what made me like it But it was just kind of like a bread bowl, but it was pizza dough but filled with pizza content inside of the bread bowl I love it. It's very very good, but I definitely took we've talked about this having a full like Clear poop. Oh, it's very scary. Well after you ate the pig's eye. That's exactly what happened to you as well I feel like I just need to I'm making my own olio. Do you remember olio? Oh Lean was it olien? Is that the one that you should drip out of you?

Yeah, that was the fat free chips that I was obsessed with anyway welcome to science stories everyone bed gets all hanging out with Henry We also want to welcome our patreon viewers This is an episode that we will be recording for patreon So if you haven't subscribed yet, please feel free to go and do that. Thank y'all so much for your support Thank you for your money, and this is what we fucking look like Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We've just lost all of our money. All right. Well last episode we talked about dickies barbecue Is it and I you know again? How many times we'll do side stories and I am so Surprised by what the audience has an emotional reaction to right you know what to be fair

It is food-based. Yo, yes, I think and maybe maybe we have trained our audience. We are just like our mother. Oh fuck. No Emotions to food our audience has been poisoned every time they're sad They're eat if they're happy they eat if we talk about food They get heated they get heated because we talk about this backstage a little bit like we're not gonna get into this But no we can't we can't it's an actual fight It's an actual fight, but we kiss on I are both of the mind that food is such an important It's like especially if you know like backstage the type of things where it's like we want so much extra food Yeah, I know it's bad. It's sickly bad because it's like but still I fucking the staff eats it people eat all the food

That's there everybody eats the food in the green room to me. It's a shine It's a sign of wealth and power and I don't even care if it's a bunch of grapes and tomatoes It's just I like an abundance of piles of food piles of food There's nothing wrong with that nothing and in no way does this mean that we shut our emotions off as children In no way does this mean that buffets are my new dad? But when it comes to dickies now dickies of course was the restaurant that a man got so mad that his order didn't have enough I believe barbecue sauce that he then shot in place Evidently dickies is not a good restaurant. It's definitely not shooting good

It is not shooting good or is this why that person shot it up obviously that person was Exceptionally mentally unstable, but dickies is terrible 18 votes. This is according to an online Oh, thank you to Joel for giving us the big breakdown and all the various votes and reading all of the various very intensely emotional emails absolutely There's one that says dickies is the McDonald's of barbecue, which you know, you could almost say that's a compliment technically McDonald's is Sometimes the only thing you can truly depend on yeah because of all of the various chance which we've discovered McDonald's probably has the most Unparalleled like in terms of quality if you get a type of McDonald's sandwich is exactly the same every place that you got absolutely I'm also hearing that dickies has great catering

So it seems like there are some people that like dickies and some people who really really hate it for the most part It's not good enough to kill somebody over the thing about catering is you're gonna eat it no matter what because you're just at an event so you're gonna eat whatever is there because you're trying not to get too drunk to tell your boss how you really feel or Tell the secretary how you really feel and both of them are not a good thing to do Do be careful if you go to a dickies because in 2014 an employee accidentally put lie Which of course is a toxic cleaning agent in the iced tea thinking it was sugar that's so there had been some All I know is it seems like now dickies so dickies has a poisoning and a shooting and I never heard of it before no So dare I say PR?

They you know what they're doing catching the true crime way if they tried yeah, and then now they're like 2022 True crime why now because dickies has to sell more crappy barbecue I mean someone's got a sling this barbecue this pulled pork is not gonna move itself unless it starts moving itself and then call the government Couple other updates number one this mystery airborne slime in East Las Vegas that we were talking about it I think it was last episode. It seemed very interesting. It seemed very Mysterious, so because it was next to some some weird clandestine air strip or people flying in and out But it turns out it is be poop So now when it comes to the bee don't they have a lot of speaking of press good press whether it be Jerry Seinfeld in

The Bee movie or us movie you must save all the bees But now they're just taking dumps wherever they want to maybe we need a little bee bathroom. I think it's diarrhea Well, they say I just shit. I'm stupid, you know in many ways But isn't it honey? I thought they crapped honey, or do they think honey? That's bee calm Side stories LP ot l a gmail.com. What out of a bee can you eat? Is it shit? Is it puke? Is it calm? What is honey? I think it's calm, but also when it comes down to it I don't know how they're so I this is a thing. So yes, there's that explanation. It's bee poop, but also at the same time Why is it all of a sudden? It's such a massive degree like did they get into the deep dish?

I don't know how did they slather an entire town with bee shit? I don't know But I don't know it is the according to the Clark County Department of Environment and Sustainability It is black and brown and it's sometimes oil Guess I just never heard of that shit before it's what they according to Kevin McDonald. He's a public information officer He says it's what it's what's called bee frass Yeah, he frass Get out of here also known as fecal matter. So ah bee poop I guess but again, but it's still why is it all showing up in such a high concentrated amount

It's never done that before and now it's doing it our buffets back Is this a sign? Is this the sign? Please tell me dear Bellagio, dear God of Bellagio Please bring your premiere premiere buffet back. I missed the seafood aisle man That's seafood aisle in the fucking sushi area. Oh, it's good. I do love it Uh, there's another we got another update. It turns out the guy did not get meningitis Come on, Maka. He didn't get meningitis. He didn't get that from the food. It's an airborne illness So whatever they said was incorrect, but it seems like maybe just maybe the person that ate the food before apparently ate the food got sick

Vomited and that felt that the maybe vomit flex got somewhere inside of the apartment and that's how that guy got it Because he was not vaccinated against me man. I'm a man. I'm an engine man because he wasn't vaccinated against it That's why he had such a bad reaction again. Remember get vaccinated against me man. I'm a man Meningitis and also if you can Don't have roommates if you can get rid of them, but it's hard And another We said that John Lilly in the MK ultra episodes He was the one that had sex with the dolphin I said that off the I said that off the cuff some time

I did make it up, but it turns out it was his employee It was somebody else in there a woman a Margaret Howell of it. She was the one that jerked off buddy I'm giving you a pass. It's close enough. Thank you If you know someone first if you're one degree of separation from someone who had sex with a dolphin I'm sorry. You're guilty birds of a feather. You've been there flock together because you didn't stop it No, you didn't say like hey, let's think about this for a second when she comes in. She's all wet smells like a dolphin's calm Um, you can ask a question like did you fuck the dolphin and then when they say yeah, you can be like oh Man, that's just so to deal breaker for me. It might be what if dolphin comes smells like ice cream

What if it's delicious and we don't know well, there's gotta be various comes of certain animals that might actually be tasty And we don't know it's like how we found milk to be fair. Well, not really but I found milk I bet you it all just I think it's all the same. Hmm. I think it's all just the same biological Goop that we're all created with which in a way, isn't that nice? All right. Well, we have to go We have to go to Wisconsin now This is not to talk about the fact that Aaron Rodgers just decided to $200 million contract and he's still the Packers quarterback. You're excited about this. Yes, okay good

No, what are they packing? I'm gonna kill you. Is that funny joke? It is so this woman in Wisconsin She is she liked to have sex with her boyfriend But they like to do it on meth and then sometimes when you do strong hardcore BDSM stuff And then one person is on meth and then it's like, whoa, please get out of hand You end up choking the partner out and then be heading them I feel like it's there's there's ways there should be a stopgap in there. There should be steps Absolutely, Taley Taylor so wrong to have sex on meth, right? No Sure, I mean don't fucking choke him to death of the chain

That's the problem. And of course, if you know meth is a little dangerous be careful out there Taylor Denise Well, she showed this man the business indeed she's 24 years old and she murdered a man named what is what's his name 25-year-old Shad Tyrion, oh so Shad is now dead. Yeah, but I it's just a terrible name, but that's not his fault No, it's not and also there was a great wrestler named Shad who also passed away. Maybe that name is a little cursed I don't know either way. They also found in Wisconsin. This is in Green Bay They discovered a body part in a bucket and it turned out to be quote a male organ Oh, what like a piano? No, like a penis. Oh, that seems to be that seems to be a euphemism So she could just say penis so she cut off his head

She dismembered the body but like Ted Bundy said sometimes you forget where you put your flashlight Well, the story forgot where she put the dude's head. Yeah, she so what she said straight up is they found her at a friend's house in a Sweatsuit completely covered in blood and she was like And originally because what they did was that the the mother of Shad Tyrion went down be like, you know Like looking for a son like where the hell it is He's normally having sex at this time because apparently they were known for having loud raucous meth-filled sex in the basement of his mother's home And and then I guess you just you get used to it You don't hear it anymore. It is not eat. That's why there needs to be a happy Mother's Day card happy Mother's Day

I'm sorry. I fucked this chick in the basement so loud all the time. I love you. I thought you wanted a grandbaby You know, that's how she rationalized. Oh, of course being like as long as they're making another one. That's fine But they found a bucket and she opened up. She pulled there was a towel on the bucket and she lifted it over and it was her Son's head. Oh my penis inside the bucket Oh my god, so they went and they found out that your show business Was the one the last person to see Shad alive So they tracked her down at an apartment and the first thing that she said to the police was You're gonna have fun finding the rest of his guts. Well, ma'am. I'm starting to we have a suspect now

I want to thank you for that sentence. Yeah, I might have a suspect also. Yeah, it's all it's all It's all in Wisconsin. So as we learned with, you know, all of the serious trials and things that take place in Wisconsin That accent isn't conducive to talking about crimes Especially not seriously talking about crime. Oh, yeah, I put his head in a bucket there. We must kill that bad man All right, so anyways business. So she started apparently though. They were having some good old-fashioned Sex, right and they turned into beating themselves. I don't know if it was good old-fashioned sex Well, it sounded like she might have been truly she was fucking him from the back, right? So she might have been pegging him And then he wrapped the chain around his own neck. This is according to show business

You know and then she went so she wrapped the chain around his neck And so like he gave it to her. She's right. She's debugging them, right? So she's got maybe she's got the penis in the butthole and then she's got the dildo in the butthole And then she's she's choking him from the back choking from the back and then he started coughing up blood And then she decided she told the cops straight up what I'd already gotten this far And then so wait a second hold on a second. So in her mind He's coughing on blood and then she's like Good wisconsin pull yourself up by your bootstraps better finish the job

Well, we're already here in this case. I would say you can clock out early Oh, absolutely feel free to stop And just do a do a do a quality check You coughing up blood is a red light and you need to remember that audience members no matter what once you start fucking coughing up blood That's when you really need to stop Check yourself and wonder what how we got here so far and this next statement is where it becomes nefarious And how we know for a fact that this was not an accident Oh, no, absolutely not because then they asked her like so why didn't you stop and she says well, maybe I liked it

And then she said yeah, I liked it. It took three to five minutes for the victim to die. I want to say this This is one of the as far as like being stabbed being shot being choked from behind in this case Uh, you know, you got the meth at some point it dawns on you You're about to die and then you got a panic and then you got this woman who as Henry said potentially is pecking you Oh, yeah, three to five minutes is a long freaking time I was a wrestler. That was a wrestler. You want to talk? I remember I remember I've seen the I've seen the plaque each quarter or each little round is only two minutes You're like two minutes. What's that? It's a long time. Oh, yeah, man. You get real tired

So three to five minutes this dude three minutes of solid love makings the most That was not love making but you know, that's true. I mean honestly you have to remember you're in the middle of that So she business and hmm. Don't forget what happened next. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes Because then she got um So she stabbed him a couple times and then she had um, she apparently she performed sexual activity with the man's corpse for two to three hours Wait, I'm sorry for what how long for two to three hours into the early morning. How good was the meth? At some point, don't you like wake up and you're like, oh, there's a corpse here and I'm blowing it

Like what does this mean? This woman Is Dahmer? Oh, yes. Well, she said that when she first the first time she talked to police She said that she blacked out and she woke up and all this to happen and then afterwards She's like, no, actually I was very much aware of every single thing that I was doing there and so she got a butter knife And she decapitated him. She got a bread knife, which is even it has that little serrated edge barely She decapitated him and then she started moving the body parts around She started like manipulating his dead body caught off his fucking response

Put that in a bucket with the head and her thing was is that she started moving the body parts around She said whatever bags were around. That's what really was important I just wanted to I wanted to save type and I wanted to save my energy. Oh my gosh And so then at one point she said that she didn't get paranoid and lazy But at the time she thought that it was dope and that honestly maybe the dope was making her paranoid And so she started taking all of the various body parts with her But she left the rest behind she got the legs and the foot and all the kind of on the feet Inside of her car and then she left the head and the penis behind because she said quote

I got lazy. She got lazy and she forgot it. So be uh, You know very careful out there show business What from a thick-knit woman? Yeah, I mean, she's not unattractive. No kind of unassuming in a sense. I mean she does look Far too calm in this mug shot I don't care I say one day someone technically that would be called resting bitch face But you know, I feel like that's a lot of people suffer from

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To order yours today. Oh right, well speaking of Killers and just absolute Horrific acts because of sexuality perhaps This dude be very careful on only fans not to have your address out there because what is it called parasocial relationship? Parasocial relationship honestly, this is not even parasocial This is straight-up stalker activity and I this person you can never blame the person that something bad happens to But she definitely um, she had tried to protect her own identity and this guy went above and beyond to figure out where she lived

Mauricio Damon Guerrero, uh, he was in taken into custody the last month. So, uh, he's a dude Uh, he is a 20 year old man. He allegedly drove 400 miles to break into a woman's home He met on the platform only fans at this point. He got there. I don't believe she was there And then he stayed in her home Doing god knows what the suspect reportedly climbed onto the roof through a window in the attic Officers on the scene quickly took the suspect later identified as Damon Guerrero into custody on suspicion of burglary Yeah, he went over there. He basically figured he drove 400 miles, which is enough Did he put the diaper on like remember the astronaut check? I think he understood you could make a rest stop

Um, but he went to drive he drove the 400 miles, uh, and he was taken into Yeah, he drove the 400 miles and he broke into the woman's home And so while she was she was living there unaware He lived there for about a week where they end up founding him up in the attic They found where he was with a couple of bottles of piss food And uh, they then found his cell phone which had videos of her asleep. Now. Oh my god, that is very Very very frightening reminds me of uh, that fantastic film parasite. Oh, yeah, but even that was more social commentary This is just straight up the absolute horror in a way. This is a social commentary when it comes to

Modern dating. Um, she said she gave him her previous address in New Hampshire And then he had promised to buy her a tv and a fireplace But then obviously, uh, he had no ability to do that But that's really like while amazon is not something that you can like we don't we try not to support it as much as possible But it is one of those things What's nice about those lists is that it could control who can see your information Why a lot of times people put up those gift lists those gift lists the thing that you can buy Sure for various only fans performers people on twitter like you should just use that because she told in the address

He somehow figured it out. Um, and she said that she first found him in front of her apartment Where she walked outside because I guess they had done a couple of chats where she like She'd sort of been seeing him over zoom a couple of times But she had no intention to meet him in person in any way shape or form Absolutely not. Uh, she and so she uh found him outside her home sleeping in his car Um, and then when she confronted him, he said that hey, listen, I drove from Pennsylvania I just slept outside of your house. I was just trying to see I just want to see what you're like Because according to police what he said to them. I thought she wanted a stalker and let me say this right now

Nobody wants a stalker. Do you want a fan? Yes Do I love when you send hot sauce to the p.o. Box? Absolutely burn my ass off But stay, you know, you don't need to be everywhere You don't need to break into my home and and fill me while I sleep well No, absolutely not give you give yourself two years And you'll be filming yourself. Will you sleep and selling it on your own polish only fans? I was trying to find a term that I talked about it on top Out regarding amazon 9 of the factories where they get their goods use slave labor. Oh, yes, and they call it

It's not good They have a special name for it, which I thought was just so fucking insane But anyway, what like volunteer robots like Fernando if you can find that that'd be a miracle Um, but this is really fucked up because he went there of he was building this up And so this is how he fucking did this. So she went when he first showed up in front of her house She realized okay. Well, now my home is compromised. I'm gonna need to find another place to go So she moved to her mom's house. She was saying her mom's house. She has no fucking clue how he figured out

How to get to her mom's house. Okay, so this man is doing some sleuth work He is being an internet detective, but he's not trying to find the four mentioned luka magnata He's not trying to find a serial killer. He is in fact the killer himself. This is so scary Also the term so in 2020 amazon found that 8% of its firms audited had labor issues related to quote Freely chosen employment That's holy shit. It's called slave labor. So just remember that really chosen Employment I thought that term that term drove me nuts reminded me of the term during the mk ultra series Just the the way that they speak about it

This is if it's some fancy thing and it's like no, you're just giving people acid You're just breaking people's minds their assholes and doing an amateur hypnotism So guys somehow you didn't know hey, I don't know they don't know he did it He figured out where her mom was staying He rented an airbnb nearby and started casing the house and then when he went he went to the house He waited for the leave. He went to the home with a crowbar He stopped this is like again. This is like type of shit. It sends a chill up my spine He broke into the apartment, right?

And then he went and found a summer for keys he found house keys and then she said the real Literally her keys went missing for a day and she couldn't figure out where it was. He went goblins He copied all the keys. Oh, yes. Oh, no, believe me. Did the goblins copy the keys. Was I gang stalked? No, Natalie and I talked about this the other day She ends as like thing was like this some weird like statue thing and it literally moved to like truly It moved to a place in the house that she did not remember putting it Well, okay being gang-stocked but this person went in removed the keys and then she said well then she mysteriously found the keys Like later on in the same exact spot where she thought that she left it

So he went he copied the keys and then wound warmed his way into the fucking house And so then he was just waiting every single time they go asleep She'd be ever he'd come out of the attic at night and prowl around Dude, no get out of here I don't mean it. This is that we try not to cause panic to our listeners, but it is important to remember Like this is why I do a sweep at night when I wake up at four in the morning every single night I walk on the house. I don't sleep. I don't sleep. So I look out the windows. I check the perimeter I fucking I got the alarm. I have cameras. I watch garlic

Tom Hanks from the burbs. What are you doing in your home? I you are you are oh my god the dude in Florida The man who was in the tidy whiteies try not to get abducted You are that man go from gold breeze. Yes. You are that man. Yes. I could do you put a shirt on are you all in No, I'm in my underwear just in your underwear. I walk the whole perimeter broom or knife in your hands nothing I'm gonna do bare hands also what it comes down to if they see a nude polish man in the dark They're gonna know vengeance has gone All right, well speaking of naked and speaking of neighbors Kenneth Clark Carlisle

What a name it is. He's a 64 year old dude, right? And now for unknown reasons he was just walking up the driveway of his neighbor's house butt ass naked And then what he did So you know when you're naked? Yes, it's so much easier to go to the bathroom because you go anywhere Hey, you're your peepees out. You can do whatever you want. You pee wherever you walk So you're the neighbor you pull back the curtain. You're like, oh, uh, yeah, Kenneth is drive coming up our driveway

He's totally butt ass naked And then he went to the glass table and then at that point Where is the glass table? It's on the porch. So the glass table is on the victim's porch Sure, sure, and then he took a big old dump on it I definitely am not going to stop him. No, and then Carlisle was arrested Friday afternoon for the criminal mischief charge um Cops say he captured Cops say he was captured relieving himself in broad daylight On two separate angles of the victim's home security. Wow foot footage

So we just did a fantastic interview about uh, about Ted Kaczynski. Yes So can't wait to for you guys to listen to that on our patreon This man seems like he might be a little kaczynski-ish Well, what is their relation to this man? This man showed up and then did what like like what do you do? I guess truly if I see a nude man on my see like, yes, let's say my 4 a.m Walk around I saw a nude man walking into my property and going to go take a shit and then as long as he leaves That's kind of like because in my mind is I was like We'll just lay for this to sort out and then we'll get the cops on the dna

Because I really am excited to watch the cops have to scrape the poo poo up and have to take it back to the various labs I don't know what they have to take it to cis, you know, sadly, I would which name. Oh, what's the name? Fucking from jay david, uh, carousel. Yeah, sure Sadly, this is not a bearer situation. So there was no dna connected. Oh, yeah This is not about bears breaking into refrigerators. That's when they really do the hard work Well, that's when the detective work begins So this man went took a dump on a glass table and then the neighbor was like well We've got to call the police because of that happened, you know, and then the cops showed up and

Uh carlyle, he was in his RV and this is according to uh, this is according to the officers Uh carlyle was spoken to through the door of his RV camper and he was still visibly naked and highly uncooperative Visibly naked Look at the door that you see this like nude man. He's was like Uh, um, so he was on bond for criminal mischief, but it's only 250 bucks But he still is behind bars facing several other Charges stemming from a december arrest. It seems like carlyle also was busted for drunk driving and discharging multiple firearms Into a lake near his residence

Really interesting because I also I hate like those goes law terms because like criminal mischief just sounds like someone's just having a little bit Too much fun. He had too much candy. Yeah, but that's not what it is I guess that's mostly vandalism when you consider that vandalism someone. It's weird when it comes to human shit Something about the process of human shit comes directly out of your butt onto my furniture. It's not vandalism. That's a weapon That's an attack your biological attack of my home You know, it is kind of nice to use the glass table though. It is easier to clean you're gonna hit that with the hose I mean, and also it's just sounds like you should pay them. This is any other environment. They would be paying him 25 grand This man lives a hell of a life

I have to say so when it comes to the multiple firearm charges and shooting into the lake Carlyle fired the guns while seated in his car. So he's just blackout drunk He just pulls up to the lake takes a shotgun rolls out his window and just starts shooting the lake with a shotgun Um, he has been again charged with DUI and two felony firearm counts and oh and that's called This is how I look it up. This is the google salad. I just use what is called to be under glass table when someone shits What is it glass bottom boat? That's the term according to urban dictionary. It's right here. It says a sexual act in which the customer It says customer which actually he doesn't have to be it could be a spouse

It could be a loved one It could be a brother and a sister depending on what part of the country you're in and so it's a sexual act In which the customer lays under a glass coffee table and looks up through it while their partner Deficates on the top. Listen through the rumor about the Nero in that. Oh, yeah Who knows what's really everyone wants and again. They just mad at how good a act that he is well Little bit But you want to do it. Do you want to do it off? You little bit. I mean, I'm gonna post you milk me

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Freaking license plate. Absolutely. And dare I say of course if you're going to have a vanity plate Do I think they're mostly douchey? Yes, but not in this case. You're allowed. You're allowed. This is about a freedom of expression I saw a guy the funny thing about hollywood. You see people in in fancy cars 12 years ago Right, but they're still driving them. Yes. I saw a guy in a red convertible and on the license plate It said buzz TV, which must have been something he was working on web.com and it's from like 2008 the car and it says buzz BU ZZ TV and I'm like you failed No, this is before the bust. They used to give us money to make the short comedy film. Is that right? This woman wanted to express herself in one of the most glorious ways possible

farting She wanted to have fart on her north carolina license plate However, she just wanted the word fart fart, which is allowed. Why is that? People as a matter of fact as a matter of fact Henry turned Henry turned me on Henry told me the first ever joke recorded Was a fart joke. It was a Sumerian number in these on a Sumerian tablet It was about a wife sitting on a husband's lap and she farted That's the first joke of all time. So there's nothing wrong with fart

So she says I want to have fart on my truck the dmv asked Cindy to respond explaining what the plate meant As if we don't know what the plate means. Just make up an acronym. Just lie to him Yes, she and some friends uh online put their heads together and came up with an attempt to save the fart They decided to tell the dmv that it was an acronym and this is what it said friends of ashville recreational trails That's incredible. Well, we say completely made up. That's uh, but that's not exactly accurate now You actually you made it be a thing. So that should be a visual. That's exactly correct. It's almost like you have Telepathies now the group does exist. Yes, and Cindy says there is 15 people within the group I love this. So the dmv did respond

And uh, it's yet to be seen if the dmv will allow Cindy to keep using fart But they better allow her to because again Look at all it takes is just do something If you build it, they will come if it's a brothel But just do something and then now she has 15 new friends because she wanted a vanity plate that said fart They came up with a fake acronym and now it's a real acronym. So that's why you're the hearer of the week It's just the fart. I honestly And i'm just so excited because it really come down to what's nice about

It's nice about maybe Maybe this is too far But what's one fun thing about the american system is that if you do figure out a way to creatively Get yourself through the system. You can do it like this is really smart The fact that they did this and they allowed it because it really comes down to it You know, this is just stupid jurisprudence. It's just fucking assholes. Oh, it's just a moron I It's someone wearing like a jfk jr 2024 sure being like, I don't think we can have fart on a license plate around here

There's class around finally. There's goddamn justice in this world. I mean none of it that we needed But in this one time it we got it in this one time All right, everyone Enjoy this interview with the founder of trauma the man who brought us the toxic avenger So much more tromeo and julia without this man. We wouldn't have south park. Perhaps. Oh, I mean would we have james gun? No, I don't know. I don't know this man uncle. Lloyd guffin. He's getting in there. All right. Here he is All right, everyone now it is time for our interview with a man that needs no introduction But we will give him one you you have to have one

He is the man behind the toxic avenger and so many other fantastic characters the mastermind that created trauma a true living legend Lloyd guffman is with us. Thank you, Lloyd And we are so excited that you have a new film shakespeare shit storm coming out very soon Excuse me last podcast on the left it's a hashtag Egg Shakespeare shit. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize and honestly the audience can't see Lloyd at home But I'm going to tell you your breast implants

Are incredible. Oh Those are called those who man breast you get that when you're old. I'm 76 Is that oh no, dude? I have him now. I'm 37 Look at me You shave my body. I look like an abuelita. Um, thank you. Thank you. Honestly. Now you're hard And honestly don't appreciate that. This is a professional. I do appreciate it Um, but we'll put the dates out there for those of you know hashtag shakespeare shit storm Absolutely one of the dates where people can see hashtag

Shakespeare shit storm April 8th through the 14th. This is going to be at cinema village downtown This is one of my favorite theaters in the world cinema village and then the premiere is at April 8th at the museum of the moving image In queens and you should really check it out hashtag shakespeare shit storm And I actually I saw this at the digital premiere during covid and I absolutely love this movie I really think in terms of like one of your directing pieces like the movie that you specifically directed This is truly one of the best ones. I have seen it's It's truly it's very funny. My question would is why the tempest like where why did you decide to do? a version of the tempest because obviously you're like born to be prospero like you could be prospero on stage

Well, thank you for that Tempest has been my favorite uh, shakespearean play. I would have direct I would have Shot it during the tromeo and julia days But excuse me hemorrhoids, but uh Cut out the hemorrhoids part that's all good buddy part of the bar our friend our friend our our Co-creator uh marcus parks is currently going through a colonoscopy. We have a lot of butthole talks as a group of friends

So don't worry about that well, um, you know in my case, they're hem hemorrhoids There we go. Boom What are we talking about? I know. Oh, yeah, you asked a good question. The tempest is my favorite of shakespearean play I saw it for the first time with my mother when I was about eight or nine in stratford, uh, connecticut uh, morris evans and uh, I can't remember the later others, but um, It knocked me out as a kid and uh It stayed with me through my whole life and uh, I figured i'll wait till i'm kind of prospero's age

Yeah, and uh when I can really get into his uh feelings and uh, so I waited on the tempest to to now and uh, it's uh, the tempest as you know is about the loss of power Yeah, it's about magic. Uh, clearly i've lost power. Drome is sinking deeper and deeper and deeper into the uh underground not to mention the fact that i'm Almost 80 years old, but I look older No, you look fantastic. You you look exactly technically what you look like as you get older. You do look fantastic and of course troma is Fantastic and toxic and of course troma is such an iconic brand That it goes it only it only gets stronger with age as I think people take it really does is people take the artistic

All of the artistic ventures as a whole You look at troma and you're like holy crap. Look at this library of content and creativity launching careers Like trey parker and matt stone and launching careers. Uh, of course james gun I mean these are some of the most famous successful people in hollywood and so don't don't trauma is iconic And uh, it goes nowhere. It lives forever. Well, thank you. Uh, now Even samuel jackson. We made an old black movie way before boys from the hood Uh, you know, we made it around the same time that spike lee was coming up But uh, unfortunately, we didn't have columbia pictures behind us. So, uh,

But isn't that video shows we're afraid of it even though the theaters played very nicely Well theaters to this day are still like a place because we feel like when we do live performances They're really it's still just this like place to be yourself without worrying about Sensoring because really thing comes down to I feel like when people are all collective in a room to watch something They're a little bit more. I don't know like open to more difficult Content and and and conversations and it's not it's a it's a you know It's a full circular experience where you have you're saying the words and you're being engaged by the audience as

As opposed to of course social media which at the end of the day is you just talking to yourself And a wall of other anonymous voices when it comes to trauma Lloyd, let's just go back back in time. Wait a minute one second. Yeah, this is my 50th year trauma has made At least a hundred movies. We own another three or four hundred four hundred We got the Rowan collection where we have preserved about three hundred uh negatives of public domain movies with uh, like white zombie and Sinatra stuff that would have deteriorated. I've written seven books as you mentioned

You can't find somebody in LA who has not worked for trauma from trade parker to Eli Roth to Gabe Friedman to Samuel Jackson to furgy to enjoy the late Guy who crashed in the Fast and Furious the whole thing But yet, uh, you're the only ones who get it. You and uh and our fans You know, no mainstream media gives a shit that I that I've had 50 years. They don't care and uh, that's a big problem So it's thanks to you You have you have to burden you have the burden Thank you, Lloyd, but I have to say the reason the trauma is so special

Is because it hasn't been perverted Dude, it hasn't been tainted by these big corporate brands like you get to stay true to yourself You don't have to deal with the horseshit of moving into the mainstream which requires you to dance dance And you have to walk whatever line they set up the mainstream if the mainstream if the new york times Instead of having 15 articles about the new spider-man movie had one article on the front page of the uh Of the entertainment section about hashtag shakes for your shit storm I guarantee you we'd have 2000 screens in about 10 minutes. But interesting. Well, I don't know if the new york time says that reach anymore It does it does. We don't exist in the uh media, right? Nobody knows about us except for you and our million

Fans, it's not enough Never enough Is that something that truly does aggravate you because from a fan perspective, henry and mine and our audience You know, we see I remember the first time watching toxic avenger your interpretation And speaking of superhero movies Um, you know as this nerd all of a sudden becomes the the avenger for all that have been downtrodden And of course, it's also a very pro environmental movie. I mean you were doing that shit back in the day before it became eco whore

Yeah, exactly like you you were been talking about the environment for a long time talking about workers rights for a long time You've been talking about equality between the genders for a long time It's very it's interesting to see how your stuff which is kind of where we live Yeah, which is that you can the whole point is to Put a lesson in the middle of a bunch of shit jokes because that's what makes the sugar that makes the medicine go down And then also because you are you know, I you're not on the outside you created an entity You are also on the inside in that way But because you have sort of a peripheral

View and just an unbelievable, you know artistic talent that might not fit into the mainstream You can really sucker punch these motherfuckers and once you get into the mix I mean we learned this with James Gunn the Guardians of the Galaxy kicking him off They just finally let him do it and now he's back because everyone's like, what are we doing here? You don't have to deal with any of that. You are in charge And I think that is what makes it so trauma lives and dies with you and I think

You know, so I just want you to you know, also realize that like I think it would I don't want to see you in the New York Times because I fucking hate the New York Times I want to see you in fangoria. I want to see because there's another one. Have they ever ever done anything but put us on the back of the bus, fangoria? I'm very sorry We've always been in the back of the bus no matter what So, well, the back of the bus is where the cool kids hang out. Don't forget the guys who, you know, I Considered Tony and Mike a friend but go and look at the history of trauma in fangoria and up until today Where are the where where no, it's about fox and sony and spider-man

And maybe there are a few little coterie friends and and you know, joe bob briggs and and which is which is which is owned by a company nothing Um, what's it called the shutter which is owned by a giant devil worshiping conglomerate So, you know, they've got all the money in the world. They can advertise and by the way the guys who created the joe bob show Both of them were my assistants and and they are the producers of hashtag Shakespeare shitstorm. Yeah, john brennan And john brennan. Yeah. Yeah, john brennan's a good friend. He's actually matt mangerides. I think it may have been his idea He was in charge of our whole

The video home what do you call it hard goods department hard good Brilliant. So, uh, it's got a monster, right? I gave you some other reasons. It's got a fairy. It's got A It's a little hanging fruit. It's a it's a natural but It was especially for your lens the museum of modern art gets us the museum of the moving image Oh, who else do you want the art people get us but not the uh, well the art people But don't forget the art people are the people that keep art alive. Yeah, you know, no one No one's got to remember too is that if you people are going to love you so much after you're dead

You don't even have to worry about it You are not the first to tell me that you'll get in the new york times when you're dead and then it'll all be a huge irony I will say so in hashtag Shakespeare shitstorm. Okay. Love this movie. This is great But there's a scene in it. I just want to kind of ask straight up that um, because our friend nadia white Who's a friend of ours of our show? honestly Also, you had marcus parks was a member of a band called the cowmen that was in the background of that giant party scene They're great. I love them. Oh, yeah, they were part of that big massive scene and there's a there's a

What would call sort of what I would term it a vomit Like avalanche Right that does happen somewhere in the center of this movie right How did it start is that in the script like did you write that into the script or was that a thing that happened naturally and you're like Let's get this going a good question. Uh, it's a CGI told CGI is it all CG Really closely and you'll see, you know Nadia not throw up on her own though because Nadia is a trooper

She's a real performer. She really is Uh, would you ask her but I say uh, so we put in the CGI I It was supposed to be a diarrhea scene and Nadia Hadn't eaten anything so Oh, there you go. That's the power of Nadia white. Uh, she is uh I'm uh, uh fucking with you the every time who vomits in our movie. It's real vomit That's what I'm saying some cases. They might have put a little green stuff in

Um, but that scene at the bar where you see that you can't fake that I bet you even Spielberg's gonna start using right? Well, I I remember Toxic Avenger. We had the first head crushing scene in a movie full head crushing scene The next thing you know Spielberg or Sodaberg They're all doing head crushings Get the fucking in Goodfellas. You said it. That's right. And by the way, there's a great show on uh, Netflix called uh Sally forever And the woman who wrote it directed stars and it has a featured role in the big budget Toxic Avenger movie

Yes, she shits on a man's face and you see the shit come out and hit her hit the guy's face She there's people who vomit on each other Continually and there it is the featured on Netflix with already well, maybe maybe And uh, you know and and uh talking to the cameras all popular Maybe you don't oh, yeah Maybe you don't get with one of these big corporate uh oligarchs because it hits too close to home for them And they really can't handle that So take it the only thing we need to sell tickets. We have to you know, if the fans don't support us

So we can't stay in business It's nice about like when joe bob rig showed trauma's war because I absolutely love that episode because it's really interesting What shudder is doing is I love the fact that they're going through the archives and showing shit that no one has seen before like No, I never even heard of trauma's war and then watching it else is like that went up into my top 10 trauma movies Oh, thank you See you for the first time Joe bob is the real uh cineast he loves film and he loves culture and he's he's read a book or two and he's uh well educated But the people at shudder are idiots. So I don't think it has anything to do with them

Well, who knows he has nothing to do with them. It's just son martel Matt mangerides john brennan joe bob And by the way our production designer on hashtag shakespeare shitstorm is the uh production designer for joe bob Um, pretty much the whole crew is a trauma lungs So it's because of him it has nothing to do with the idiots at shudder. They well, you know 50 years from now They'll be calling up My grandchildren to see if they could show a hashtag shakespeare shitstorm There's no way no way shudder thought toxic avenger trauma's war trauma and juliet

Bloodsucking freaks mother's day. There's no way they understood those movies bloodsucking freaks That movie was uh, that movie was amazing. But when it comes to inspirations, you mentioned you inspired steven spielberg A lot of other, you know creatives when you hear matt and uh and trey And james gahn and uh the the people for mentioned that you mentioned when you hear of their success Does that make you proud? Because people people refer to trauma as university. Oh very much. You know, it's where people go to learn film You learn to work on a budget Learner fisted sketch comedy because we're all people that did it like when you did we didn't realize just how much

And i'll tell i'll say this straight up just how much we directly stole from you For years So with trauma, I mean you learn all of these different skills. I mean that must be something with you guys But uh, you you got successful or something happened. I don't know if that happened I would definitely just say that we I don't have our our sketch group ran out of steam and now we're doing podcasts well if you happen to Run across a script or right when i'm i don't have a something i'm obsessed with right now

I'm producing two movies one is called weird deer with the Much of the crew from hashtag shakespeare shitstorm and then mercedes the muse Just finished divide and conquer And then liam reagan is uh who is working on weird deer weird deer, but he's uh producing in uh Uh england and I think they're editing now. So uh trauma movies in production, but I I don't have something too direct So if you guys come up with something I will let let's throw that out to our audience if you are someone who wants to learn the art Make a script send it to trauma send it to loyed

What do you look for when it comes to a young talent when it comes to someone do they just have to be hungry? Um when it comes to a young director or writer, you know just tell our audience a little bit because you are you know You've been around for fucking 50 damn years. What kind of skill sets do you think are you know the best? To make the best film and things like that for trauma film Oh, well, uh the skill sets for trauma is a love cinema and b I love trauma all the people that work for us. We only have about 10 employees. Yeah, they all started as uh You know observers basically fans. Oh, yeah everybody and um They're lovely people and they're motivated by trying to to to be involved in making some art that they believe in

And uh, and and they learn and the best, uh, I think James Gunn really He has it all he very talented. He's got a masters. He's written a novel in during his uh, When he was a graduate student, uh, and he works his ass off and he's a good guy And he's very good with talking to people. He's a people person. Yeah Of course, it's gonna make the thing with Eli Roth. These guys are well educated. I went to good schools. They've read a lot of books Uh, I I can't say I know Samuel Jackson. If I met him, it was I didn't direct that film So maybe I met him a couple of times Uh, but Tray and Matt same thing. They're very well educated. Tray Parker has an encyclopedia

Knowledge of trauma and the Broadway musical Yeah, basically my beat. Uh, I'm a heavy into musical. So that's how I understood um Cannibal and musical when the shutter people or whoever were there before shutter and all the other mainstream Idiots and suits didn't didn't get it I could have a little about cannibals. We can't distribute that. Yeah, it's dumb They're always wrong. They're always incorrect. I was so we were all told that podcasts were a waste of time for years We were told for for by all of our people

We were told that all of this was a waste of time and it was never going to do anything And at your show sometimes you have to stick by your guns Absolutely You believe in um, which also kind of brings me to a question of like so you're producing still which is awesome But you really still do you really getting you want to direct again you want to get back in there You want to get back in the seat? If I find if there's something that's very original can be any genre Or genre if you say genre Very good. That's a good

And uh, you know, I'm open to anything doesn't have to what about what about the Lloyd Kaufman story Oh, I was young jiggalo Lloyd Kaufman like he's out there like obviously He was raised in a brothel to be the ultimate, you know Lothario of women, but he still loved film And so he had to be torn away from his job of being being this this traveling essentially male prostitute for the government Half well, wait a minute. You're undersized. It's half willy loman, but half male prostitute I honestly think that that's not a bad idea, but the idea of like almost a bio pic about the beginning of trauma

Well, interestingly enough, uh, I am working on something maybe when we get a A little bit of a synopsis you guys could read it. Uh, of course when we get a first draft, uh, which is It's got sort of a Salt Lake City punk Part kind of my Uh, yeah, punk. Yeah, but then it takes a very harsh turn Uh, and and moves toward the Dostoevsky, which the people at shutter have never heard of Interesting. No, I like that. Yeah, I have to ask, you know between sergeant Kabuki man again the toxic avenger

Trill me on julia What uh, what are some of your favorite characters when it comes to trauma? What are the ones where you're just like these are my babies? Um, who would you fight because we know Doug Sackman. We have a mutual friend when Doug Sackman who has kind of had He's the helm of of sergeant Kabuki man and he seems to hold that like he brought sergeant Kabuki man to the 2020s Yeah, who's who's your most iconic character that you created? well My wife says that Toxie is basically me getting older in each movie

I imagine that's some truth there the His significant other is the one who Uh, you know, there's the boss uh, all that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah, and she's blunt. I guess it has to be Toxie Yeah, that's the number one and like In terms of identifying with the trauma character every once in a while. I have a little pang for uh dolphin man Yeah Because I do have breasts and dolphin man as a as a mammal Uh, I think the most personal film is hashtag Shakespeare shitstorm and

It feels like it it has a haunting like that's one thing I want I tell people about trauma movies and this idea of like when I rewatched When you rewatch Toxie and you rewatch these things there actually is sort of a like not to You know belittle it and anyway, but there was a real emotional center to these things that allowed them to work And Shakespeare's shitstorm actually has this kind of feeling of I guess that's why when I watch it I actually felt very sad because it kind of felt like oh, was this Lloyd saying goodbye to directing movies Is this his like final like I did it? This is my statement because it kind of feels like it. I I think you're close

Unless something awfully good comes along. I I think that's it for me You know after the movie hashtag Shakespeare shitstorm finished principal for production and remember We had six weeks in queen and two weeks in, uh, albania. So, uh, you know, that's right Yeah, you guys went all the way to albania to to shoot correct and um, you can see a lot of production value and trained That's where we trained the whales the whole thing. So, um, the point is that uh after the movie was over Uh, I made a tribute to one of my favorite directors alfred hitchcock by actually having vertigo That's perfect That's incredible one of the I was I had like a room spinning around

For three days and I hadn't had a drop to drink Oh, hey, that's you getting higher in your own supply. It's old flashbacks from the 70s Iron maiden flashbacks speaking speaking of the 70s 80s Um, I'm a also a huge fan of john waters Uh, I remember growing up on like desperate living pink flamingos, but both of my older brothers are gay And I don't know if that has anything to do with the fact that I watch those movies very young probably more so Yeah, I mean the idea of understanding true camp as a little boy is actually very difficult

Um, and uh, when we look at like, you know, the 70s art movement and the 80s cinematic art movement Do you see any like when it comes to waters and yourself because I I hold you guys in the same kind of prestige In this way of like these movies shock you. Yeah, they're like, whoa, that's different. I haven't seen anything like that before Um, I haven't seen a chicken get fucked to death. That usually doesn't happen easy to Matthew You know eating all the eggs Did you guys have a competition with each other or did you guys ever cross paths? We have cross paths. Yeah, I'm not particularly And how do you say it? He was to me? He's more of a of a

How do you say it? Uh, I mean clearly the guy has a wonderful Brilliant body of work. Yeah. Yeah his whole style Well, you don't got to be friends. Like that's a big thing. It's really about how you guys What you guys meant because it's something about Especially in america where it's society that's true american filmmaking like what you did What john waters does which is this idea of bad taste which I feel like and we are we have lost Like a little bit of that. I'm the embracement of it because I mean, obviously

Today everything is considered bad taste. I just watched a wonderful movie with steve martin called my blue heaven Oh, I love my blue heaven. You couldn't make that day. It would never let you make that movie today the whole crowd Bad taste, uh bad taste in the truest sense, you know, you look at someone like peter jackson Who started with dead alive when it comes to bad taste theoretically that movie is You know, it's brutal in a freaking lawn mower taking people out Didn't he was that his first? Yeah, you're right bad taste dead Well, dead alive. Yeah, and then there was dead alive the concept of bad test It's really interesting idea of like because also the thing about all of these bad taste movies

Trauma included is that they have been the home For many people that have not found home other places exactly It really is a it like especially if you look at now if you go to trauma now Like you can look at go watch dot trauma dot com like if you look at the body of work that's not within Trauma, there's so many themes of like, you know, lgbt inclusion Uh people all sorts of if you don't fit into a space Trauma will have you that's right And all of these places seem to have that aspect of like yes a part of the shroud of bad taste

Also allows you to actually be more accepting of alternative lifestyles. Well, certainly We've been way before our Al Gore invented the internet He should be killed for that He was bragging about it 21 years ago or so 22 years ago We were ahead of him. We're Anyway, there's no I don't think one can fault us really Yeah, but you know, um, you know, the interesting thing is you did give a home to a lot of people that were You know, again, maybe searching for something

You know, there's a lot of unique perspectives that trauma provides throw a lot of you know, that stuff out there and so I know that you know, you've been sort of Upset with not being embraced by the mainstream But because of that but because of that your doors were open to a lot of people You know that desperately needed you who knows where these people would be without you Your daughters are going to spend a lot of time having to go through your possessions to give them out Later on and I can't wait to be there at your home Helping strip it. I'm going to help strip it and honestly

You're welcome. Come and have a cocktail if you guys ever want to have a cocktail I absolutely would love to I absolutely would love to Oh, I'll give you a one of a kind I have my places a little bit like kevin eastman's Except I've I've got the stuff that's worthless his house is a museum of you know, church keys and oh, that's my oh, yeah That's what I'm slowly becoming I feel like it's just a type of person where you just build up a collection of all of this stuff over years of years of Being an asshole come over. I give you a unique one of a kind souvenir from the well the home of uncle loydy

Oh, absolutely It sounds great straight up my certificate my trauma certificate is one of my prized possessions and I have it on my wall and it's Um, and it means a lot to me. Well, it does. It's it comes from the heart, you know Where I cannot buy love or or a word of mouth With all the love money or a boner. No, no, we can't and I but I honestly think that there is big things for trauma in the future I do think that there is a the the brand is strong in terms of people Uh, really are this generation is really getting into the horror movie the true horror movie scenes Of the 70s and the 80s and they're discovering it like horror is stronger than it's ever been

And it's because when people get together everyone's like, you know, they're all dressed like vampires or whatever and everyone's just like Hey, how are you? Hi? I'm uh, I'm ben. I just want to go have a couple of bud lights I want to hang out like everyone is so sweet and uh, you helped create that world Um, so we want to thank you as horror fans, you know, if john waters had a festival like trauma dance And he invited me to be on a panel or to speak I would do it for free Now he's got all the fucking money in the world And I asked him to be on a panel with james gunn tie west and uh, trauma dance film festival

We've been doing it for 22 years. He said he only does things if he gets paid Well, you know, it's it's it's it's america So the people at newline were the absolute scum of the earth And uh, somehow he was able to deal with them Well, honestly, you gotta play the game. But meanwhile, uh, clearly there's a big money thing going and I say that from I will say that from the, uh Uh, the uh time that the uh that the bourgeois movie made about the dark the housewife who uh, With that beautiful woman who became obese

Uh, I say from that time on trauma trumps john waters on every film Even the movies we didn't make Well, you know Uh, trey parker all that stuff is better. Oh, it's not a competition, but indeed trauma wins the hearts I know this is a thing like I actually sort of I know I get it with the chip on the shoulder because that is a Dave willis who created aqua teen and worked on your pretty face is going to hell with me It's like we both said this the chip on the shoulder is also the fuel. It's the it's the coal that I mean

It ultimately it is going to kill us. Lloyd. Yeah, but it is that chip That's the only problem. That's the thing that makes you strong You don't want the chip to get too heavy then you fall over like the flintstones card You're right. You're right. My wife gets upset because I yell at the television. She watches You know, now honestly, that's a show I would watch dude I just see myself in a fucking time machine because it's me and my wife Stop yelling at the television. It's drew carry. It's fine. He wasn't even competition But before we go

Is there a way is there like is there a line of advice that you could give this to young people that are out there Like trying to make movies like I know that like a little bit when you said on joe bob I really appreciated the idea that like it's so much easier to make movies now than ever before like you can make Shit like what's something that you like what what's something for young filmmakers to know About what they should do to get their first movie out the door and because everyone can make one There's also more competition. So it might be a little bit more difficult to stand out Which of course is something you know how to do Well, for one, I've written seven books. Five of them are all about filmmaking. Make your own movie. Direct your own damn movie

Put off your own damn movie sell your own damn movie Whatever We have a video make your own damn abortion that I did Somewhere hey, by the way, I never mind keep going now. I was onto something Uh the books but um, I think there's a big decision. Do you want to be totally Independent artist which you kind of can do with today, but you can make a movie for 2000 bucks Sure movie and still be a dental hygienist and make, uh, you know a decent salary

Uh, so that is one way to go. Uh, you know starting your own trauma is probably impossible But I think you can do your own distribution now Uh, not necessarily through trauma, but uh doing what we do exactly what we do Read my book sell your own damn movie because I think that will help the the other The other decision at the crossroads is go out to city of angels work your way up through the Uh corridors of power and uh, if you have talent, uh, and if you uh have

an ability to Keep to actually do what you say you're going to do which very few people do have And if you've read a few books, uh, it's like shooting fish in a barrel out there. They're also stupid So Straight parker you guys if you wanted to live and go out there every day and pitch and write and pitch and write you'd make it Woody Allen says Woody Allen. This is probably the best lesson. I could give you Woody Allen says success is 88 percent just showing up. Oh, I agree I completely agree and you also you need some high quality knee pads

Absolutely. That's another thing Woody Allen said. All right. Lloyd coffin. Thank you so much for being with us, man You are an absolute icon and it was wonderful. Well, Woody Allen is also fucking his daughter apparently Yeah, we well that was kind of the joke there It's kind of a disgusting person, but you know, hey, he married her man. All right. Okay. That's good On the left doesn't laugh We're gonna do we're gonna do what we call a hard cut. Uh, no, I'm just joking. Thank you so much. Lloyd. You were absolutely wonderful All right, everyone there it was our conversation with Lloyd coffin The iconic Lloyd coffin, you know what I like is he's so he was reserved. He holds back

He doesn't let you know if he's angry or what he thinks about Hollywood But you know, that is a man who has lived it And you know for all of it's hard to be in a sea of people that want you to kiss up to them It's very difficult because you gotta kiss the brain. It's not in his personality type. It's not in ours It's not in ours, but you know, we just have to be so grateful to the people that Uh came before us and the fact again, you know trey and uh matt and james gone It's like those names just to me are just you know, I watch south park all the time And you wonder would south park be here without you know without cannibal the musical. We just don't know

They talked about it. Um, all right, everyone. Well, thank you so much for listening. You want to do a triple l? Uh, you got to get out there Whoa That's a triple b. Oh man. That really came from deep. I felt my toes That was like if I if I asked you to burp as a cartoon frog. You just got there. You got the roll my friend That's like we usually bleep out the burps, but I think that has to stay in. Yeah. I mean no vomit. No, that was amazing So every day live your life knowing like oh man. I mean this guy got my meth No, I don't want to think about that now

Love the fact that you trust your new girl. Maybe you only went out a couple times You trust her to peg you with impunity and she is she is gonna rail you and rail you and rail you And you don't need to look back, right? Because you ain't no horse. You ain't no horse. And then you're gonna laugh In heaven Looking down wondering be like where'd it all go wrong? Ha ha. Well, I guess we got a little bit carried away Didn't we you know what I mean? Huh? You just don't you know, I always want to be laughing in heaven Certainly not here. Well take care of yourselves everyone and be safe out there It's hard to vet everybody, but you know what? I don't know. I don't know just assume the best until it's not the case

And then give me like I gotta get out of here. Yeah, all right everyone Thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Hail yourselves. Hail Satan. My goos de lechons Get out there and make something creative even if it's you know, to be honest if it has to be a tic-tac Make it a tic-tac. Just do something creative, please. Otherwise, uh, you're gonna go crazy Yeah This show is made possible by listeners like you Thanks to our ad sponsors You can support our shows by supporting them for more shows like the one you just listened to go to last podcast network.com