Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: The Corrections

Episode Date: May 24, 2018

Marcus joins Side Stories with a list of Last Podcast corrections.

I tell you what, if I was 16 year old working in Starbucks, yes I know I feel like I would be invigorated by receiving health care, but if a woman is willing to shit on the floor and throw it at me, just let her use the bathroom. Well in Starbucks she's allowed to use the bathroom now and you don't have to buy anything anymore. There are public restrooms surrounded by a coffee restaurant. That's all Starbucks is now. Come on man, you at least have to sniff a crawler or something before you can use the bathroom.

Well, yeah, I don't necessarily want them sniffing around before they take it. Anyway, welcome to the side stories, ladies and gentlemen, I am Ben Kessel, Henry Zabrowski. Yeah, and guess what, we have a special guest that we managed to pull into the fucking studio against his will. Oh my gosh, Marcus Parks. I get to be special guest, Marcus Parks. You are special? I have to introduce...

What? You spoke before the introduction, you're special guest, Marcus Parks. Oh my god, it's me. And ladies and gentlemen, you might recognize him from last podcast on our left, Abel against Top Hat page seven, and really just influential, you're an influencer. Thank you. Marcus Parks is joining us. Hello.

Have you been asked to sell ads on your Instagram yet? No, I haven't even been verified on any of it yet. I'm not verified on Instagram either. I can't, they won't even verify me on Twitter. Really? Yeah. They stopped doing it because of the Nazis. Ah.

They stopped doing it because, but I got in there early because someone was impersonating me on Instagram for a while, I became verified, and he was using some colorful language about people of certain sexual orientation, so that's why that had to stop. All right, well, so first of all, thank you everyone for the response we've gotten here for Side Stories. It's a little of a, kind of a bit of an offshoot of last podcast on the left, the proper show. However, unlike last podcast on the left, I just want to really clarify, there's no information in this show.

This show is our Gabby conversation, so if you're coming for a deep dive of like a bunch of informative conversation, just listen to the show proper. This is just us hanging out as friends. We're trying to be friends audibly, like we're trying to record that essence, and a part of it, it's like when we were doing, because like last week I was doing QAnon, in the middle of it, I was just like, I can't do this anymore. And a part of it, it's like, we just don't have enough, we don't, it's like, this is just not the place to come for all of the grisly details unless you want to know quite

a bit about my bowel habits, which I can hit you with quite a bit, but we just don't have the time because of the research weight of last podcast. Yeah, it's quite heavy, and the research and writing time that goes into the book that's going to be coming out next year. Yes, can't wait. So, this is just a hangover. And I've been just put- I've been tagging.

Tagging? Yeah, yeah, that's my big thing now is that I really can't, I don't really have time to work as much in work because I'm out there tagging. Oh, you're tagging buildings, what's your, what's the name, what's your moniker? Spider-Ham. Spider-Ham's incredible. I love the spectacular Spider-Ham. Oh, yeah.

You remember that? Yeah. We had a comic book. Yeah, Peter Parker, spectacular Spider-Ham. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. By the way, we all saw Deadpool 2, and none of us mentioned it to each other, but we all saw it on like the same weekend, the weekend that came out.

Very good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Ryan- It was fine. Oh, you are such a troll. You are such a troll. Ryan Reynolds is both Brook and I's celebrity cheat, so it was a little awkward because he is the most charming and the funniest actor that we have working today.

What I'll say about Deadpool 2 is that it's one of the rare movies where the lead person is actually the most entertaining part of the movie. Yes. Most of the time that those people are not, except for, I would say, a Robert Downey Jr. and an Iron Man film, because he was very good back in the day. But Deadpool, Ryan Reynolds, oh, he's funny, and he says a bit of a quip there. Yeah. Back and forth.

Yeah. That was great. He's not a billionaire who funds the war efforts. That was more fun. Hey, man, he's an inventor. Yeah, and they had like a bunch of like really cool mid-90s X-Force jokes, like they got a little dig in on Rob Liefel, who can't draw feet. There was a couple of jokes in there that I knew were just way over my head, but I

knew I was supposed to think they were funny because there would just be a nerd in the back being like, ha! Yeah, I did that exact same thing. This is like, yeah, you're a great character, great about a guy who can't draw feet, and I went, yeah. Yeah. That's how I felt about Phantom Thread. When I went to go see Phantom Thread, it was filled with a, it was a Brooklyn art

house theater, and it was a whole audience of people going, oh, isn't that? Oh. And I was like, this isn't funny. Is this supposed to be, and then they're all talking about on the interviews with Danny DeLewis and Paul Thomas, and they're like, this is like a departure, we tried to make this really funny. And I was like, what? This is funny.

It was, it wasn't marketed like it was supposed to be funny. I don't know, man. I need to be told. I need to tell, you got to toss Will Arnett and then at least one of the commercials for me to know it's a comedy. I also, you know, I was watching Roseanne, the sitcom, I like a laugh track. I've come full circle, let me know, just cue it up for me, I can't, I don't know what's funny anymore.

Does the new Roseanne have a laugh track? There's a laugh track in there because she says some inflammatory things, but it's not as inflammatory because it's doused with the water of laughter. Very nice. Yes. I do like that show. Her sister Jackie saves it because she always points out that Roseanne's a bigot. And good.

And then that's kind of the back and forth. That is great. That is great. They're all doing very well. Yeah. Richer than ever. That's good. Richer than ever, than they'll ever be, and they'll ever be ever again.

Marcus is joining us today, partially due to the fact, I thought that would be fun to have a feature on Side Stories where Marcus gets to come and address the many things we are told to be wrong about in some of our episodes. And we would like to do a correction with Marcus Park's segment. Okay. This is going to be when Marcus is on, we do put him to work a little bit, as always. Uh-huh. He's got to work.

He can't not be working. I have to work. You have to work. You have to work. You know, we know that. How much I love to work. Just drive you crazy. No.

No, no, no, no, no. It's like tearing at the foundations of his personality and his relationship. Yeah. He's fine. A large rock right on my chest. All right. Well, we got a solid minute for this segment of corrections. So what are some of the corrections?

One of the corrections, actually, I have to correct myself on this one, and I corrected you on something, Ben. And I was wrong. Hey, all right. I got to admit right up top, George Harrison was briefly a Harry Krishna. Well, let's move this segment to five minutes long. I'm liking how it's starting. I knew he was a Harry Krishna.

He was briefly a Harry Krishna. I got the Mahavrishi and Harry Krishna a little confused. So yes, Ben, George Harrison was briefly a Harry Krishna. And you, my friend, will never be living that down. I wouldn't have known that I was right unless you told me I was correct, but my friend, you are wrong. Let it sink in. Yes.

I've got some things that you've said that were wrong, because this isn't just Marcus Park's corrections. This is everybody's corrections. Oh, good, good, good. The finger goes around. I know that the Bach, we were confused about which Bach it was, that it was not, let me tell you. So Barbara Bach is not Catherine Bach.

Catherine Bach was from Daisy, it was Daisy Dew. And what he's talking about is on the Mark David Chapman episode we talked about the playboy that Mark David Chapman read on the way from Atlanta back to New York City. He read a playboy with the John Lennon interview in it, and we said the wrong Bach. Or we didn't say the wrong Bach, we identified the wrong Bach. You said the right one. I said the right one. I made the wrong joke.

There's a certain Bach that's on the cover, and the Bach that Henry thought it was was the Bach from Dukes of Hazard, but it was a different Bach. And the amazing thing about this Bach is that the Bach that was on the cover of the playboy that Mark David Chapman read. Sebastian Bach. No, he's got his tits are too flat. This Bach ended up later marrying your favorite Beatle, Ringo Starr. No kin.

No kin. Synchronicity. Wow. It was a synchronicity right there. Ringo is the best. Always on time with both the drum and location. He just never caused any waves. People have to just study Ringo, do what I do, attach yourself to talented people, and

just show up. And then they just have to keep you on, and just don't rock the boat. Just use a permanent fixture, and then what were you, you can kiss off the podcast, and they're like, ugh, that could be the same anymore. Right. But at the same time, yeah, you get grandfathered in. I did do a, I Googled my name on Reddit, or I didn't Google my name, that's how powerful Google is.

I searched my name on Reddit, and overall fairly good response. A couple of people being like, why is he there? But then the audience is so nice, and they say he represents us, and I say, I do represent you in the fact that, I don't know what I'm talking about either. So it's perfect. It's nice that we can admit that we're wrong, because it shows that we're growing, and you know what it shows? Because this is growing up, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh.

Now who sings that one? Blink 182. What was the sad song that Blink 182 had? Adam Song. Adam Song. He's about divorce. He did not make it. Oh no, it's about suicide.

Yes. Wait, which one was it? I think Adam Song was both about divorce and suicide. Okay, it's kind of divorces the suicide of love, so that makes a lot of sense. When you type in Blink 182, sad song. Blink 182 divorce song is Stay Together for the Kids. Yes. Oh yes.

Here's your holiday. Yeah, that one. That is the most on point song about divorce ever, Stay Together for the Kids. Ben, their anger hurts my ears. Ben running strong for seven years, rather than fix the problems, they never solve them all. It makes no sense at all. I see them every day.

We get along, so why can't they? If this is what he wants, and this is what she wants, then why is there so much pain? I'm gonna Google Blink 182 net worth real quick here, because I have a feeling they're richer than God. I never thought I'd die alone. I laughed the loudest who'd have known. I traced the cord back to the wall, no wonder it was never plugged in at all. I took my time, I hurried up.

The choice was mine. I didn't think enough. I'm too depressed to go on. You'll be sorry when I'm gone. Each member of Blink 182 is worth $60 million, so there you go. I never conquered when you came, 16, just held such better days, days when I still felt alive. We couldn't wait to get outside.

The world was wide, too late to try, the tour was over. We'd survive. I couldn't wait till I got home to pass the time in my room alone. That's so sad, isn't it? It's really sad. Just get back out there. Get on with your friends. All right, other corrections.

Next correction, Ben, this is a correction for you. Doubt it. The Hemsworth brothers are Australian, not English. Oh, ah, come on. It's different. It's a different country. Adam Song took place on the album Enema of the State. I know, what was the name of the porn star on there?

I can't remember what her name was. Janine, yes. Yes, Janine was a, Janine was, it was just Janine. Janine, or was it, uh, oh, I think she was a one-namer. Uh, I think she was a one-name. Janine Evans? Oh, no, no, no. I don't remember that one.

I don't remember that one. Janine Lindemolder. Janine Lindemolder, that was the one, oh, my penis just remembered. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. All right, yes, the Hemsworth brothers, that's right, Australian. I remember that now. Yes.

They are handsome. Yes. I love him as Thor. Very, very handsome. I can't believe there's two of them. You know what? Every day I wake up and I think, God, that there's two of them so that there's enough. I want there to be enough of them.

Well, I mean, it's just, they're twins, right? Are they twins? Uh, I don't think so. No, they're not twins. No, I don't think, no, no, no. Well, we'll have a corrections on this episode, next episode, not twins. Uh, I have another corrections, this is for me. This is from our Black Metal episode, when pronouncing elvish words, the C is always

hard. Yeah. All right. We are children. Yeah. Okay, guys. These are hard. Yeah.

Also, and then remember, we learned last time is it's Frazier, bruh. I was about to get to all of the Dennis Nielsen corrections because there are quite a few for the Dennis Nielsen episode. Well, just with mispronunciations and stuff like that. Well, just general, just a whole bunch of different things. All right. Yes, Frazierberg is, as Henry said, pronounced Frazier. Yeah, I like Frazierberg better.

It makes me think of Frazier naturally and it just feels like he's the mayor. Frazierberg? Frazierberg. Frazierberg. Frazierberg. Frazierberg. I don't know. I think if they're tongue to do all that wavy stuff.

Frazier. Rounding boy, the story of a droning boy. It's from licking the knees of an older man. Found out what a magic sponge is. Uh-oh. Is it what we said it was? Yeah, it's sack of nuts. No, magic sponge.

It's a facetious phrase used in the UK because you know how a lot of soccer players will fake injuries, flopping around. The magic sponge is that they come out with a sponge in a bucket of ice water. And the reason why they call it a magic sponge is because they'll just kind of sponge whatever the person is faking and that magically makes it all better. It is actually hilarious watching soccer and then it's like when you get injured in God of War, where you just like step on something green and you're immediately healed, it's very like video game-esque because they're not really injured.

Not injured at all. Good actors though. Very good Italian actors. They always pretend to cry and shit. Are you done with being haunted by Dennis Nielsen? After a while, like when I did, like Mark David Chapman got to me emotionally from reading about it. And then Dennis Nielsen did the same thing.

And a part of me has been thinking quite a bit about his office life and what that must have been like of him just every day coming in, obviously reeking of corpses. Yep. And no one's saying anything, just assuming it's just because he's got weird guy smell. Yeah, do you, that's a good point. Does corpse smell steady? I mean, it's gotta be on his clothes and everything, right? Oh yeah, corpse smell definitely sticks to you.

How the hell do you deal with that? I don't know, I guess a whole bunch of deodorant because no one ever talked about his office smell. The only thing they really talked about him in the office, his office behavior, what he was known for, he was known for being very clever. People actually liked him and he was extremely liberal. He was super left wing and he would just harangue his coworkers constantly about left wing politics and specifically would talk about Margaret Thatcher all the time, which makes

him pretty, it was a whole common thing in the 80s like musicians saying about how much they hated Margaret Thatcher. Right. You cannot read a comic book written by a fucking British writer in the 80s without some story about how evil Margaret Thatcher is. Just sneak it in there. Alan Moore. Alan Moore woke up from a dead sleep.

How many times? Margaret Thatcher! He's so mad. Oh yeah, Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Neil Gabe, all of them, but especially Alan Moore is just like, Margaret Thatcher! Oh fuck it! I wish I could be better at the accents. They were maybe, so I guess, so he wasn't as bad in the office as I assumed he would

be. He was still fucking jerk off. I'm saying this on some level, he's still like not the funnest guy, but he was like clever. He was very punny and funny, but he would have a hard time just interpersonally as you'd imagine. Yeah, absolutely. Creepy guy. Creepy guy.

Yeah, you're right. I guess this is going to come out before the next episode. This will come out before episode two. Just a little foreshadowing. The plumbing is stuffed. Oh my god! I can't get that out of my head. You will listen to that and it's like Jesus.

It's craziness. Yeah buddy, it's fucking terrifying. I don't like it. He had one friend in the office, one woman that he said he had warm feelings towards and a lot of the women actually really liked him because he was like the gay guy in the office and he was openly gay actually. He showed up to the Christmas party with Twinkle. Yeah, the boy that he lived with before the murders began.

Well he was 18. He was 18. He was 18, yeah. I'm not going to put him that far above a boy though, he had the mentality of a 16-year-old. We actually joke about this in the live show, which by the way we've got a bunch of shows coming up, hope to see you all on Clusterfest in San Francisco. Cannot wait. But it's like whenever there's an adult scene, a porno and it's like a teenager, it's really

you only got two years. It's 18 to 19 years. I don't like the term teenager, it's just an 18-year-old or 19-year-old because it's a 60% chance that it's not legal. So 18 to 19. It's very difficult to get in those years. There's still children. Even in 18, 19 there's still children.

And so when he takes it, he took him to the Christmas party and then people then from then on would be like, are you gay Dennis? And then he'd go, hmm. And he would just smile. All right. He'd like to respond by just like, hmm, hmm, am I or am I not? I like that. Answer a question with the question.

That's a good way to get out. All right. Any other corrections? Many more. Oh. It's the majority of our life. Yeah. Oh, yes, in response to the claim that we made about Dennis Nelson being the only serial

killer with a dog, he was not the only serial killer with a dog, Ian Brady and Mira Hindley or Myra Hindley had a dog named Puppet. Oh, right. Yeah. But that's like the closest one because we covered the rest in the actual, this episode which we'll talk about is because we talked about how like, because John Wayne Gacy had a dog as a boy. I cut all that out.

Oh, you cut all that out? Yeah. Because it didn't work with the flow of the episode. It was like two minutes past. Yeah. But you just covered, that's why I did that. That's why I did that. So we can find myself in these scenarios.

We can cover in your on-side stories. Yeah. We can cover here on-side stories. Yeah. But that's the thing. Well, it's like, I did look it up while we were doing it. And I said all of this shit. I didn't know that he didn't get to you because I don't listen to all the episodes.

Yeah. John Wayne Gacy had a dog as a child. Yeah. And I think everyone has a dog as a child, though. Yeah. No. Some people don't. Holden didn't because Holden, because the animals react adversely to him.

Holden had a friend with reptiles. So that was like his version of having a dog. Yes. John Wayne Gacy had a dog as a child. I looked all this shit up. So I wasn't wrong. You read a Wikipedia article. Yeah.

Which is where the other fucking idiots found the information too. That's where everybody finds it. But you still missed the only ones that had the dog as adults. It was Mira Henley. Yay. It was Mira Henley. It was Mira Henley. They were the Moors Murders.

Oh. Which we have to do. That's a thing. I don't find myself responsible for any information that's outside of one of our episodes until we get to it. It's like up until then you can tell me I'm wrong, but once we get to that episode then we could talk about it. Yeah.

Because I have to talk about the Moors Murders. That's a good episode. We haven't covered those yet, huh? Yeah, we did. We did cover those. Yeah. Horrors of the UK. Oh, yes.

It was a very, very small, very, very tiny overview. Okay. Remember that was when we were doing that in anticipation of our UK tour. The first one that got canceled? That's right. That's right. Yes. Not for lack of sales.

I forget why that got canceled. It was because of lack of sales. It was because of lack of sales. Oh, it was. Yeah. Because they were putting us in venues that we can fill now, but five years ago we were nowhere near the, because remember five years ago, because they rebooked us and we ended up playing in that abandoned bakery in Manchester right next to Strangeways.

That was more appropriate for us. That's right. We performed right by the prison that held Bronson. That place was truly horrified. That was great. I think that's my favorite venue I've ever performed in. Me too. That Manchester venue was so fucking cool.

It looked so evil. We had such a good night there too. That was so fun. I want to go back. I want to go back to Manchester. Yeah. We'll have to. At some point we'll do it in the not too distant future.

Yeah. I think what we spend maybe like less than 24 hours in Manchester, we were just in and out. So we didn't really get to experience much of the actual nightlife of it, but the venue was amazing. It was, how many people were there? Maybe like a hundred? Yeah, it was chill, man.

If even that, and it was on a slightly elevated stage in this old bakery that had a World War II bomb shelter in it. And a lot of people when they got there, they were like, this is a dangerous neighborhood. Yeah. We were like, oh, okay. Very nice. Very nice. We shouldn't be here right now.

Yeah. They were horrified. I love that kind of shit. By sheer ignorance, we got like street cred. Be like, yeah, we know. We're fine. Yeah. Yeah.

All I do is walk into the hardest neighborhoods of the world. That's what we did. And that was the one where we thought we were getting driven around for free, and then it turns out we owed the guy a lot of money. Yeah. We did not know that until he looked at us like with puppy dog eyes, be like, I'll have my money now. Yeah.

He's like, oh, we have to pay you. Okay. He's like, yes, you owe me 800 pounds for the last four days. Where is that boy? I don't know. He was very nice. He was nice. What was his name?

Chandler. I don't remember. All I know is we saved him from sleeping in the van. Do you remember they wanted him to sleep in the van and were like, he's got to have a bed. Yeah. He's got to drive us for like 10 hours. So we had to get him out.

This is when we were in the UK. We had no money. We had nothing. Yeah. We had nothing. But the people who booked us hired a driver for us to drive us from Glasgow to Manchester and then down to London. They got us a driver that we had to hire.

Yes, they got us. That we had to hire. Yes. But we didn't know that with time. Yeah. They just called a guy and said, show up. And I kept on getting hammered and giving him like 40 bucks because I was like, oh, this is a nice tip.

I didn't realize we were like, oh, God, anyway, he was a sweet guy. He was a super sweet guy. Yeah. Yeah. He got us all the way there and then at the end we discovered we owed him pretty much all the money we made on Mars. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll call that one breaking even. I'll always remember him. I was sitting up front and you guys were asleep and he was to sit there and he was just like, me and my girlfriend and going on a vacation this year. And I was like, oh, you guys go and just like, we're going to Poland, we're going to see Auschwitz. And I was like, oh, man, all right, you guys are going to have fun, huh? Yeah.

The thing about Auschwitz is it's they got those two dueling hot dog stands outside of it, which I think is completely inappropriate. I really do. I want to go there so bad. It would be fascinating. People need to eat. I just don't think that, but you can't have a commissary like I actually do though. They have like vending machines and stuff there.

Really? Yeah. You've got to eat, man. You're under all day. Yeah. I guess it's not, I know it's like the history of it is bad. I mean, it's, you should not be necessarily, you shouldn't be like a, like a big turkey leg.

Like you can get a ren fair. I mean, the quite, but like, do you need a hot dog? Like do you want a hot dog? Like that is, it's also my only preference. Want a hot dog? Right. You remember that old catchphrase? Yeah.

You want a hot dog? Yeah. But no, the answer is no. Anyway. Yeah. I don't know. I get hungry in a lot of weird circumstances and I wonder if it's just an emotional response. Honestly, that's a good point as soon as I'm stressed, immediately hungry.

I eat a lot when I'm stressed as well. All right. Next correction. And this isn't necessarily correction. This is just a misconception that we had. Okay. The first minister of Scotland, Ruth Davidson is gay and the Irish prime minister is gay and Ireland, Ireland legalized gay marriage.

Yes. Before we did. Yeah. Very, very, they say Ireland is post Catholic these days. Well, and everyone's praising the Pope because he did tell a gay person that that's how God created him. Oh, wow. So, whoa.

I'm so happy the Pope said it. I know. Oh, yeah. I will say like when you set the bar like 100% bigoted, like as soon as you just like slightly say something nice, you get a lot of praise. Hey, you're a human. Wow. Wow.

I can't believe it. That's so great. You're a human. When they, did they also like just apologize for their treatment of the Jews during the Holocaust? Like, didn't they just do that? I will say Pope Francis is doing some corrections of his own. Yeah.

I think John Paul apologized for the whole Nazi thing. Okay. Good. Yeah. But when he did, I do think Pope Benedict rescinded it though. Because he was just like a muttering like bookmark of a person, right? Like, didn't they just get him up like slide him into his suit and he'd be like drooling all over himself and then.

Pope Mobile. Yep. He was really the big. I think he, Pope Francis is doing pretty well, but I think Pope John Paul was the biggest that I remember. People loved him. Yeah. Well, he was around for so long.

Yeah. He got shot, didn't he? He did. That's why he had the Mobile. Yeah. The Pope Mobile. Yep. He's trying to quit.

The new Pope is already saying it's time for him to quit. No. Francis is saying that because Benedict already quit. Francis is going to quit too? Yeah. He said he's going to quit. Whatever happened to Pope for life? Yeah.

Nope. All right. Well, that's crazy. I guess maybe Benedict started a new trend. I suppose so. All right. Wish our Supreme Court justices would take note. I just don't really understand how you can just quit.

How can you just quit? I think the whole point is that you stress your whole life. Then it's like, oh, you know, I don't want to be Pope anymore. Yeah. I don't know, man. You fucking piece of fuck. I don't care about any of these idiots. Hmm.

I think I don't know if there's a law that says you have to be Pope until you die. No, Benedict. I'm making it so. I hereby declare that it should be a law that Pope stay until they are doddering, shitting their pants, and they can't even get their ruby slippers on. Well, all right. I think that was the way for quite a while. And our final correction today, highest body count in the UK or just total in UK, Harold

Shipman. I responded myself to this because Harold Shipman to me is a doctors who kill category. Right. Like, I know not like, yes, it was 215, but he did it like it was interpersonal and a lot of it was for money. And like, yes, he took some trophies and shit, but for me, for my money, then it's more of a capital S, capital K, serial killer. Well, did.

Yeah. Shipman did a lot more. It was like an industrial move to kill people. Well, yeah. Because Shipman, Shipman never killed outside of the hospice, right? Yeah. Yeah. But I'm not.

I think you're splitting hairs here, though. I am splitting hairs. That's the whole point. That is literally what I'm doing. Yeah. I'm saying that that is how I believe it, like, yes, technically he's a serial killer and he had a methodology, but I do, but I don't know if he had the same. I mean, obviously I would like to, we will research him and cover him at some point.

But in terms of like, actual in depth, like deep fantasy life and the way Dennis Wilson lived and the ritualistic way that he murdered people, like it's just in terms of branding. I would put him in a doctor's. I see where Henry's coming from as well because did Shipman see himself as like a Kevorkian? Well, I think he see himself as an angel of mercy. I mean, that's how most nurses and doctors who kill see themselves. And I think it's still a fantasy. It's just a different kind of fantasy.

And I guarantee you Shipman was, I mean, he had a full bone every time he put that needle in. You think so? Oh, yeah. We'll have to do a deep dive on him sometime soon. Oh, yeah. I'd like to. I'd love to do doctors who kill anyway, like that, that whole thing.

But I just think that you can break it down into different categories. I feel like that there's obviously ways to talk about the way people think about stuff. It's like the idea, the difference between a mass shooter, like like constant shooters and you'd have somebody like Berkowitz. Like there's a difference where it's like one, it's like a spurt. It's like, it's like a thing. It's a one moment. It's about getting attention where Berkowitz was like living a whole, he had a methodology

and all like a philosophy and his inner life attached to what he was doing. It is weird when they got like Nilsson, when they got the bodies in the home, that's, that is a little bit different than like a shipment where I guess he clocks out and he's no longer a serial killer or how they even find that guy? How'd they figure out that he was killing everybody? I think how it happened was they started noticing that as soon as Shipman saw a patient, they ended up dead very, very soon afterwards. So they went and they, I think I'm don't quote me on this.

Don't, don't give me a correction on this one if I'm wrong because when we do the episode I will do it right. But I think they found out that some of his patients were dying mysteriously and then they went and exhumed a bunch of his other patients and found that they all had the same chemical in their bodies. I think, I think that's what it was and that might have been, I know one doctor or nurse who killed, got caught that way. I think it was Shipman, but I'm not 100% sure.

That would make sense. That would make sense. That would make a lot of sense. I'm looking at his Wikipedia page right now, but it's like, you know, it's in the sense like, Diamorphine is what he was doing, it's all kind of bullshit, but I just feel like there's a spiritual difference between the two. I understand. So it's like the difference between like, say like a straight up like sexual serial

killer, a, like a, say a black widow and a doctor who kill, like those are all three like kind of different sorts of things. Because I believe that the motives are a part of, I mean, like why are crimes committed? Cause it's a part of like going all the way back to like, why are we here? Why did he have 215 bodies? A lot of it had to do with money. Like, yes, he had money from the, from the people, whether you had him sign a bunch of documents or something.

Yes. He was like working into getting in their wills. He was taking their stuff. He was doing stuff. So I think a lot of it was money motivated. I'm sure obviously it's like a sexual problems that were built into it, which is what happens when you kill 215 people. But I think that the same thing with black widows, black widows have a very concrete

motive. The thing about serial killers, like when we talk about Dennis Nielsen is his motives are complex to the point where there is no direct motive. There is like the direct motive is a fantasy. So it's not like he doesn't get anything out of it. He just made his life worse by killing people. Yeah. The shipman was using it in a way to make his life better.

And that's what we talk about on this week's Patreon episode. We have a great interview for anyone who has given to our Patreon, please give. We interview Tray and Barbara, the director and co-director of Evil Genius, the Netflix docu-series. And the whole thing is like, it's possible there's one guy, what's his name, Rothstein? Bill Rothstein. It's possible. This whole thing was just his fantasy that he wanted to come to life so that Marjorie

would love him. I mean, there's so much crazy stuff out there. Who knows? Motivation is very difficult to prove. Very much so. All right. But I think it's important because you can't separate the two. I watched Red Dragon last night and that's what they talk about quite a bit.

It's about motivation. And Hannibal Lecter. Oh, he's scary. He's so hungry. Yum, yum. Not a good film. Honestly, you eat worse than Hannibal Lecter and he ate humans. Yeah.

Wait till we go to fucking Rome. I'm horrified. You know, in Italy, they have a dish where it's just a sheep's head and then you just dig in. But I can't do it, man. Oh, dude. Iceland does it too. Iceland is...

Just a sheep's head? Just a sheep's head. Yeah. The food in Iceland that our buddy Ragnar, the food over there, because he's a food guy over there now. Oh, is he? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Real big food guy over there now. Iceland has some of the most incredible, they have these destination restaurants of people going all over the world. They have like two or three of the best restaurants in the world in Iceland. I know. It's like totally hypocritical. But it is all the type of stuff that Henry loves to eat. I'm like such a hypocrite.

I understand. I should be able to look my food in the eye and eat its face. I just can't. I'm not a Miami homeless person. I can't just gnaw on people's faces. I can't gnaw on animal's faces. But I understand that I shouldn't eat meat then. But you know, it's just hard to pick a cheekbone off while you're staring in the eyes.

Rome is about pasta and organ meats. And I'm going to show you guys, it's going to be this place that we're going also. It's kind of like a northern Rome, one restaurant I picked that we're going to go, oh man, we're going to get so much fucking feet meat, dude. I hope we survive. No, I've always kind of wanted to eat an eye. Yeah, buddy. Well, you can.

Can I do that? Yeah, of course. They pop. Yeah. That's what you want to eat it. You boil them and then they pop. Like they have like a thing where it's like a, I did this shooter once. It was bacon wrapped in sort of like a cylinder, like a thick cylinder filled with a tube of

lamb's brains and they're very big. But the problem is that you really got to eat it all at once because if you bought it, which I made a mistake of is I bit it in half and the shot of brains hit me right in the back of the front. I don't like it. And that was rough because they really has to sit. Have you ever eaten eyes? No, because my mom stopped doing because it was this very Italian thing and my mom never

did it. She never did the goat head bake that you do where you pop out the eyes. But it's supposed to be, I mean, obviously it's going to be a complex flavor. Yeah. I guess so, there's a documentary. It's about this guy, Richard Turner. He's the blind magician. And he's an eye in it.

Delta's dude, Delta's fucking crazy dude, he's fucking, he's blind as shit. He's blind as shit. He learns how to fucking, he deals all, he's doing all these up close card tricks, completely blind. Also became a black belt and for some form, I forgot what the form of black was as shit. And a part of it is in order to get it, they have to beat you in. You have to fight 10 guys and he's like, they're like, hey, we know how hard you work. We're going to give you the belt.

We know you're going blind. And he's like, let me do this myself. Yeah. And so they just beat the fuck out of him. He had to fight two guys with a broken arm. Yeah, it was pretty cool. The guys, he's a badass dude. And yeah, you got to check it out.

You have to check out Delta. He's all blind all the time. He's like Daredevil. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. All right. Well, let's see here. Anything else?

Thank you for the corrections, Marcus. I would love to point out that I was correct about George Harrison. Indeed. He was a Hare Krishna. I think Hare Krishna is, you know, not the worst people. They come to Midtown or they go to Union Square here in New York when it's nice. They don't want to be here when it's cold. And you know, they're okay.

A little annoying. They like to, they dance in a circle. Yeah, they do that. They're relatively peaceful, though, I think. I mean, we try, we try our absolute hardest to be correct at all times. We do a lot of, we do a lot of, you know, double check and fat check and things like that. But when you got a show coming out every week, it's hard.

When you talk as much as we do, I think we actually do pretty good. Yeah. On all the shows here on The Last Bad Gas Network. Yeah. I feel like we could be doing worse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I'm excited.

So I guess, yes, of course, keep the corrections coming. They're going to come anyway. So I think keep them coming. And so we're going to do this because that part of it's we're staying vigilant. We're staying strong. We're going to keep doing this. Maybe every once in a while, we're going to have Marcus in here to do this and give us a corrections roundabout.

Yeah, whenever you're done, you know, just working extremely difficult is working extremely hard on the book. I'm so looking for next two weeks, man. Next two weeks is just, I'm going to be an author for the next two weeks. You guys are going to be off in Italy doing your thing. I'm just going to be in my little office, click, click, tacky, tacky, tacky, tacky. For some reason, I just picture you corn cob pipe, no clothes, but cowboy boots. And you just kind of walk around with a lot of confidence and I just sadly see you be

like, I'm not going to hurt you, Caroline. I'm not going to hurt you. I'm just going to bash you fucking brains. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't go full Nicholson. As a matter of fact, I don't think you have a door in your back. No, you do have a door in your bathroom.

It just doesn't lock. Actually, we discussed in our apartment, we have one door in the entire apartment on my office and we did not realize until the day we moved in like, oh, this apartment doesn't have doors. Yes. Open concept. Open concept. But at least you guys are nude a lot and you don't have that many guests.

We don't have that many friends left here in New York City. I know all of you have abandoned us. Nah, nah, nah, man. We're just fucking just spreading it around, dude. You guys got to fucking, we'll be chilling out and hanging out more on either coast together. Yeah. We're going to be all over this great state of ours. Country.

It's a country. It's a country. Oh my gosh. All right, everyone. Well, thank you so much for listening to side stories. Hail yourselves. We appreciate it. Anything else?

Don't forget, we have tickets on sale for our San Diego Comic Con show. You can go see, go get ticket link for that at last podcast on the left. I don't know. I want to dress up. I want to be in the comic. You want to cosplay? I want to like, I'm not going to call it cosplay. I'm going to call it being cool.

I'm just going to call it being cool guy. And I want to be like, you know what? What would you make a pretty good Colossus version of what Groot? You would be a pretty good Groot is so thin. He's thick. He's thick. And then all of this is I am Groot young Groot is then oh man. Groot is so funny.

Vin Diesel speaking of money, 20 million bucks. I think he got for that. It's great. But he did learn how to say I am Groot in like six, six different languages. It's nice. And did you see that one kid? He had to write a story from the perspective of a superhero and he said I am Groot. And then the whole thing was just I am Groot.

Oh my God. And he had to get an A because he didn't write. That is very smart. That is very smart. That is very funny. That is very funny. I always like kids that like find a way to cheat, but it's also allowed. And I love the new Avengers movie.

It was great. I didn't see it yet. It doesn't matter to me. I know how it is. You know, I'm a big comic book guy. Yeah. I love my Marvel movies. Spider-Man Homecoming best comic book movie ever made.

You think so? I think so. Spider-Man? Spider-Man Homecoming, well I wouldn't say best comic book movie, best Marvel movie ever made. Really? Spider-Man Homecoming. I don't like Spider-Man.

Deadpool was better. I don't like Spider-Man. Deadpool is kind of outside. That's the Fox or the Sony universe out of the Marvel series. Dark Knight. Oh no. I mean Marvel comic book movie. Not all comic book movies.

Just Marvel. What else is a Marvel one? I don't like Spider-Man. Iron Man, Avengers. I like Spider-Man. Did you watch the new Spider-Man? I did. I liked it.

No. It was very good. I don't like things about boys. I just don't like. I don't like stuff about young boys. I like stuff that's about grizzled big men. What about Wolverine? Well Wolverine's kind of different.

Logan's the best one. That's the best one. Yeah but that's over in like the Sony universe. That was in the X-Men movies. I don't know what the difference is. All these universes. Yeah. There's like the Marvel Studios universe and there's like the Sony universe like in

those. I think it's Sony or Fox. I think it's Fox. That's where all the X-Men movies are. That's where like Deadpool and Logan and all the X-Men first class movies. That's where those live. Marvel though, they are Marvel. They all come from Marvel comics but they're in two different universes.

You make my head hurt. Yeah. My brain hurt. I like Black Panther. Black Panther was great. Black Panther was very good. Yeah. Black Panther was great.

Yeah. I mean I could really like if you guys want me to like break down some actual like comic book continuity I could really make your head hurt. I don't know man. Well just tell me what you want to know and I'll come back next time and tell you all about it. Next time? All right.

Yeah. I don't even know. What? I don't know what I don't know. So. That is true. Well I mean it depends on if you want to know Marvel or DC lore. DC lore if you want to know about like pre-crisis, post-crisis, pre-crisis-crisis or crisis-crisis-crisis

or zero hour any of that type of stuff. What's the problem? The continuity kind of keeps restarting each time. Oh I see. To all this stuff happened before it didn't happen. I like the Dark Knight. That's what I like. I like the Dark Knight.

That was my favorite one. Yeah. That was a good one. Infinite crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite crisis, final crisis. Wow. Yeah. A lot of crises. A lot of crisis.

Infinite crisis was the best one by far. Unbreakable. That was not. I don't think that that was very good. I'm excited for it coming back. I'm excited. Oh is it Split, sequel? It's coming back?

Yeah. I mean because at the end of Split you realize it all tied into Unbreakable and then they're coming back. Split? It did well enough to get I think he wanted to like push the studio's hands but I don't think that Split did very well. did very well did it yeah I like split you down with it I you liked it yeah I liked it I had a good time with it I thought it was silly it's silly yeah

it's silly I just felt like it's one of those right just didn't believe that the guy was that scary just like kick the kick him hit him what was that movie with the grandparents that felt kind of like an M. Night Shyamalan movie that was it what was that one it was the visit and it was an M. Night Shyamalan movie it was that was a great movie oh yeah well I think I actually I actually I assumed that it wasn't him because it was good he came back with it yeah well M. Night Shyamalan the whole thing was you his whole thing was surprise endings and now with social media it's almost impossible to keep anything under wraps

yeah so yeah his endings are like constantly getting spoiled and then it's like I get it okay he was dead the whole time got it he actually still fucked up the ending with the credit sequence and the visit how because it's the credit so you can't well I don't want to get into it yeah but you know what I know uh-huh I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna be you I'm not gonna be spoils everything two years old two years not that long a time there's two years movies out there's some movies made in the 70s that I haven't seen or the 80s 90 blame the person who tells you the end of like easy rider I think or

usual suspects watch the movie or it gets spoiled for you and if you haven't seen the visit that is your fault I'm not you know a lot of people don't have time that you have been actually a lot more time than I have maybe I tell you what you know who didn't have a lot of time was that woman who shat at the Starbucks on Duke she dropped egg and like so fast yeah and I like how she needed it she pulled the napkins knowing what her end game was gonna be yeah all the napkins shat through the shit and then wiped herself she didn't ruin her pants yeah man yeah she I mean you just gotta trust people

right Tim Hortons by the way was it oh that's what I thought yeah if they say they gotta go just trust him so was it in Canada because I know we still have a couple of Tim Hortons here in America I know I wouldn't go to one I don't go to Tim Hortons outside of Canada because I don't give to other countries instead of the give back home I give the home I don't make a guy that's that's very very patriotic Henry yeah yeah buddy you know surprisingly I kind of miss Canada I like hey man Canada's a great place people were very sweet our fans were very sweet there there were some snooty bartenders that I that I was

confronted by for no reason but there are some snooty people here and there but yeah I do miss a little good well I'm sure we'll end up going back I'm at some yeah I'm certain that we will go back I want to go back I want to spend time in Calgary Calgary was that we did not spend I would rather spend time in Calgary than Toronto I think and I want to hang out with the Hort family here are people in Calgary punching themselves in the face just hearing that because there's like nothing in Calgary yeah everyone's just like you want to come to fucking Calgary and I get it because we went it's so relaxing it's

fun I like the vibe remember that the the hip-hop show that we saw in Calgary yes great they were definitely Calgary and it was definitely hip-hop and it was yeah they were good it was it was so much fun yeah it was it was really reminded me of the Midwest it reminded me very Midwest it definitely reminded me it reminded me of Texas yeah you know why because it's like that whole area like the there's a lot more in common vertically in this country than in this continent than we like to think you know and that's what this is that's what people say when you go to another country and you say that you're from

America you're not you're from the United States of America because North America it's its own content and each part of it has its own personality I just I can't wait for you do you you're gonna be a great father you know yeah that's it yeah five dogs well thank you so much for listening to check out that patreon interview we did with the evil genius folks my god it's it's a interest ain't stop hail yourselves everyone come on Marcus yeah this is really fun yeah it's easy it is very easy he'll say we're just relations do you want to say a hail game okay all right live love