Last Podcast On The Left - Side Stories: True Crime Trial Update - Summer 2026

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

Court is back in session as Henry and Ed catch up on the cases that refuse to stay quiet: the Lindsay Clancy trial and the failures surrounding postpartum psychosis, Bryan Kohberger’s attempt to wit...hdraw his guilty plea, Keefe D finally facing the music for Tupac’s murder, and the latest on D4vd, Nick Reiner, and Luigi Mangione. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free, plus get Friday episodes a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no place to escape to. This is the last podcast. On the left. Side stories? That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Did it, do, did it, did it, did it, did it, breaking news.
Starting point is 00:00:25 So we recorded this episode of side stories last week, an attempt to get ready for a little. We do a little summer vacation every year. We want to keep you guys set with as many shows as possible so that you don't ever feel alone in this horrible world of ours. But unfortunately, what happens? What if we want to be alone? Then go fuck off. You're right? Then go fuck off someplace.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's great. No, go. You can't. You're not allowed. But we wanted to do a cover. Last week, we wanted to cover all of the various trials that were going on currently. It's a big update episode. It was.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I love about side stories is no matter when we record it, the second we're done recording, everything changes. So we recorded what was just kind of the beginning ramp up to a bunch of different trials and everything's different as of last week. It was a bunch of cases that haven't changed in months. Every one of them changed. So before you listen, just know here are the updates. Nick Reiner was not allowed to get his trust fund.
Starting point is 00:01:33 D-da-da-da-da-d-da-d-da. Denied. You don't get shit, you fucker. That fucking idiot finally is being punished in some way because he has what's considered to be, I believe the term is slasher's status. Ooh. I believe is the term because we know that they're still kind of fighting it, but right now they are saying that he does not have access to that money
Starting point is 00:01:53 because he is, in fact, the guy that killed the people that gave him the money. But he's not guilty yet. Not yet, but soon. I can't believe he's actually like put in a not-guilty place. I mean, he's a crazy person. They found him covered in blood. He's completely absolutely vacuum and an utter liability and a weight on society. There is nothing going on behind those eyes, man.
Starting point is 00:02:16 He is a literal waste of human DNA. And he killed an extremely important artist and destroyed a family. And we know that for a fact. And he can go fuck himself. Absolutely. So the next one is, number two, is sadly, Louis. Luigi Mangione has pled guilty, but that's because she's got class. Shows that he's way more of a man than Nick Reiner will ever be.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Ever be. Luigi Mangione, he opened up. He said, yes, I knew what I did was wrong. I chose Brian Thompson randomly. Yeah, he was not part of United Health. He wasn't a customer. No, he was not Luigi Mangione. He was not, but Luigi Mangioni did come out and he did reveal his reason.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And the thing was, is that he had a lifetime of back pain. And he said that the straw that broke the camel's back was when he was trying to speak with somebody, trying to get some kind of answers about it. And so he framed himself as he posed as a multi-millionaire slash billionaire potential investor into United Health. And they couldn't have gotten back to him faster. Yes. And so that's what became the motivating factor. And it seemed that Brian Thompson was just the guy he could get at. Yeah, no, basically Brian Thompson walked out of the meeting first.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, so that's why he was got it. But now, Luenji Mangione will probably avoid the death penalty. He will most likely just be in jail forever. Forever. Yeah, yeah. You'll probably be in jail forever. Yeah, unless we get some... I bet he still gets a TV show somehow.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Somehow he's going to get a Netflix podcast. And we're looking at you, Netflix. I'm putting this to you. We're booking them. Yeah. Actually, could you help? That'd be actually great. Could you help us book Luigi?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Booking at Netflix.com, could you get Luigi Mangione to be on side stories? Can we visit him in prison? He's the only murderer I actually want to speak to. I do want to still would like to speak to David Berkowitz. Oh, really? But I'm not allowed to because I'm not Christian. Oh, really? He won't talk to anybody that does not believe in the Christ.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Hold on. He's not Jewish? Oh, no, he's a chosen. He's a new, what's it called? True for Jesus? Yeah, he found Jesus in pretty. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah. You know, I don't know much. You never hear somebody become an ultra-Jewish in prison.
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, you never hear about that. That's never something that's like, I'm suddenly Jewish. Well, it's kind of funny. I wonder why that it is. Sight Stories, L-P-O-G-L and Gmail. Why does no one go to prison and be like, I had plenty of time to learn Hebrew? I got all the books.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I talked to it, a rabbi over Zoom. I'm pretty sure it's just Muslim, Christian, and atheist. Let me ask a question. So, Side Stories. I would just become a much deeper atheist, I imagine. That's what I assume. There's no Jesus in prison. None.
Starting point is 00:05:04 No, even when people try to show them to you, no, no, no, their body with the tattoos. No, if you meet anybody name Jesus in prison, they're doing bad things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you think their name is Jesus and her name is really Jesus, they get really mad if you try and call them, hey Zeus. They fucking freak out as a matter of fact, and I would double check on that.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I would always double check it. Right? Or you want to ask them, you a Jesus or Jesus? I'm sorry, I was talking about. Rick Wits his dog. Thank you. So then the final little update is that Lindsay Clancy, a bunch of evidence came out in court that basically said, number one, she Googled how to commit suicide, what to do with hallucinations. So she absolutely knew she was suffering from hallucinations. She reached out to her mother. We now know that she reached her mother and said that she had
Starting point is 00:05:52 thoughts of harming the children. And what I still find interesting, and my opinion still stands is the fact that she told her family members that didn't want to face the seriousness of the problem so they didn't want to step up to the plate as hardcore as they probably could. And then Lindsay Clancy
Starting point is 00:06:13 didn't tell the medical professionals that she was working with all of the details of her actual symptoms because she was afraid of getting her kids taken away or being put into some form of mental asylum. Which shows that she was competent. That is my opinion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 That is my opinion. I think that a lot of people are going to be angry with me, even just for saying that up top here. But I just want you to know, I completely believe in postpartum depression and it's, and postpartum, which is now, we now known as, it's called psychopathy. Postpartum psychosis is extremely different. I talked about it. I feel like if you listen to this episode, you will hear our very measured takes on this. Yeah. Now, Googling how to kill yourself, that doesn't make you not.
Starting point is 00:06:58 crazy. No, but it shows that there might have been a plan. Yeah. The main key, the key of the trial is did, how much did she plan? How much was a, how cognizant was she of her plan?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Because in order to say that she needs to be put into a mental asylum, we basically have to say she was so deep in her mental illness that she had no idea what was going on and she did it out of entirely out of impulse. And to me, the problem is, is that there's a lot of steps in here. She'd hid a lot of what she was
Starting point is 00:07:33 feeling from certain people. And I still think that her husband and her mother had a lot more responsibility here to step up to the plate. But unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, it's up to you. And one of the worst parts about United States of America and what we're doing with our health care system right now. We don't give a fuck about you. It's just up to you. It's no, no professional is going to follow up with you. They cannot read your mind. And unless, yeah, I do believe it all needs to be changed. But you have to work with the system that we currently have.
Starting point is 00:08:07 If you don't ask enough questions at the doctor, you're not going to get your shit fixed. You have to fight for yourself, unfortunately. No one's going to fight for you. And if you can't, you got to bring a friend. You have to bring someone, which is why the, now we're saying, and I see a lot of people saying the same thing, why wasn't the husband there being like, she told me. she wanted to hurt the kids. I don't care if it was a... That should have been
Starting point is 00:08:29 be all and all. She told me... Patrick's a piece of shit. Patrick's a lump. Patrick can go fuck himself. We're already way past you already. We're going to get into all of that deeper now. We're going to talk about everything we're about to get into
Starting point is 00:08:42 in the rest of this episode. I hope you all enjoy. Please remember, it is our opinions. And we're having fun here. But there's some facts in there. Yeah, sure. Now here's side stories. from your blade.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Court is in session. Dun, dun. Is that the Law and Order noise? Can we get that? Dun, done me a second. I can get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's also just the Windows 95. It's just like Law and Order. It's a little bit same. Don, done. Law and order, special special school victims unit. SPU. Oh, yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Welcome to Side Stories. We're back in court. That's right. Yes, that's right. We are doling out justice. On today's update, today's update episode about the various trials going on. Ed and I are going to be judge, jury, and executioner.
Starting point is 00:09:39 That's right. Executioner, please. Yes, because we are going to, what was it, Death by Mau Mau Mau? Death by Mau Mau. You remember that? No. No, I don't know that one. The idea where they get the guy, it's like the three guys go.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I forget the whole. whole setup. But they end up on an island with a bunch of cannibals and they say hey, do you want like death by, you know, we could kill you quick or you can get death by Mao Mao. And death by Malmow is, I believe it's getting crushed to the death by big butts. That sounds
Starting point is 00:10:09 nice. Welcome to side stories. You got that joke down. I know what's going on here. I'm really good at this. This is what we lost with our fathers died. Yes. Was that joke? Another thing gone. I can't ask him how to complete that racist street joke and God, I wish I could. I know
Starting point is 00:10:24 he is in heaven. All my moisture Diane references are running running slow. Running slow. But here, welcome to side stories. I'm sitting with the illustrious Ed Larson. My breasts are big. They are. But you are not as big as you were.
Starting point is 00:10:40 We've photo proof of that given to us recently. When I saw that picture and I realize how big of a chunk you were, but now you're looking great. I'm looking fine. I put weight back on. No, you look good. I like it like this. I need, I could lose 10. Yeah, we all could. I would love 10 off.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah, I wish I could chop off your feet too, but we can't. My feet weigh way more than 10 pounds. Who knows? We'll find out when we get to do it. But I'm sitting here, Andrew Zabrowski. I got all my parts. And I think if you just cut little parts off of me, it wouldn't even make that much of a difference. Because I'm all tit.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They'll just grow back. I'm all tits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And speaking of all tits, today's episode is we've decided because there's so many different concurrent trials and not yet done trials and trials that never were. Maybe trials that might happen. Who knows. They were all happened. They were all updates
Starting point is 00:11:29 connected to stories that we have been covering here at side service. And some of we really haven't. Yeah. So we wanted to give both a trial update and also a trial presentation because one of my favorite things in the world to do as... You love watching court footage. I
Starting point is 00:11:46 can't believe how much intention span I have when it comes to court. That's weird. I can sit and watch whole days at court. Yet I've never known you to go on jury duty. Why would I ever? I lie.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I lie. I say stuff. I'd be like, I kill bitches for fun. That's like the first thing I say, let me kill a bitch. Let me kill a bitch. Just to like, I don't mean it, guys. Yeah. I don't mean it guys. No, he's just trying to get out of civic duty. Yeah, I hate my civic duty. I hate civics. Yeah. You know, that's one of my main pet peeves. Yeah. Honda Civic?
Starting point is 00:12:22 No, honestly, they're great. for running past security barriers into national buildings. They're really, thank you. It's a satire. Had some trial satire. Sattyers. Well, if they do run over several congressmen. Those are satires they use.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yes, but they get, yeah. Do you see someone's living at Mitch McConnell's house? Oh, what? I don't even want to. Can't even. Let's just not even. Don't derail me immediately. Someone came wet to his house to try to,
Starting point is 00:12:53 footage of Mitch McConnell and a different senator showed up and he's like, I live here. Yes, sir, yeah, no, I, uh, what do you mean? Who's Mitch McConnell? Mitch McConnell rents out his guest house to another senator. Mitch McConnell is sand in a jar right now. All right, let's just get you anyway. Let's get some
Starting point is 00:13:11 trials, so you can't do this. All right, so number one, the number one trial on my mind because I'm watching this. All day long, I watched the entire, I watched the husband's entire testimony and cross-examination. I watch the therapist. I watch the nurse practitioner.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I watch all of these various things. I am in it. I'm a juror. I'm ready to make a decision. Yeah. Lindsay Clancy. So the Lindsay Clancy trial has currently been going on for two weeks. Now, I know I'm going to get some people angry.
Starting point is 00:13:45 All right. Just talking about the subject of this trial. I just learned about her today. I've kept her out of my brain because we haven't talked about her on the show and I knew it was a big undertaking. So let me say what I think I know and then maybe you could correct me. Love it. So she is a woman who says she suffer from postpartum, killed three of her children by strangling them with exercise bands and then slid her wrist and jumped out of a window and now she's paralyzed. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, and it's the surprise.
Starting point is 00:14:15 All right, okay. It's a juicy story. It is an extremely juicy story. That's a juicy story. Yeah, so this... I was hoping we were going to talk about Clancy Brown. No, no, no. He hasn't killed his children yet.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yet. But hey, please, think about us, Clancy Brown. All right, if you would? Live from North Lane. All right. So this story is... It's extremely complicated. So, yes, Lindsay Clancy murdered her three children with exercise bans.
Starting point is 00:14:45 She then attempted suicide by slitting her wrists and her throat and jumping out of a second story building. This all happened in January of 2023. And this trial, though, is not about her guilt. So we already know, and she is already admitted, that it is true. Yeah. She killed the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:04 She tried to commit suicide. She's now paralyzed from the chest down. There's no way to, like, really know. Yeah, one kid was five, another one was three, another one was eight months old. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, they, and even just them fighting together was hard to get her away. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:19 I mean, three ninjas can't work. Yeah, the baby wasn't a good head to the trench coat. Thank you, Eddie. So this is, and they said we'd have a hard time finding humor in this story. So this guy, so this all came up. This story, though, is about how culpable was she? So right now, her husband, former husband, Patrick Clancy, he is in the middle of suing the hospital, the psychiatrist, Jennifer Tufts. everybody else is kind of involved around this.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He's not suing his ex-wife? No, because he's forgiven his ex-wife. He is coming out and saying, I believe, that her essentially mental illness, her postpartum depression was so extreme that it could explain what she did. And it goes on. Now, they are searching for compensation.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They're searching for compensation. There's a civil trial that is happening. I believe it's going to happen right after this in which the husband is coming right after the entire establishment. trying to figure out is was she too mentally ill to know that what she was doing was right or wrong and was she so in the throes of postpartum depression that she and did the state fail her did the medical community fail her should her doctors fail her to her hospital fail her but lots
Starting point is 00:16:36 of people get postpartum depression we postpartum depression if you and i know what it is then lots of people get it they they do get it and there's many levels of postpart impression what makes this really difficult trial. Because one of the big contentious parts of this is there was some planning involved. There was she sent Patrick Clancy to a fast
Starting point is 00:16:58 food restaurant far away. Right? In the night that they murdered, could have sent to a slow food restaurant close. Oh my God. If he had sent him down to fucking like old. Because they're great places. Like slowies. Yeah, yeah. Slow. I've ever been to Mount
Starting point is 00:17:14 Sludges, food that takes nine hours. I love Mount Sludges. But she's sending him away. There's a little bit of talk of that in that time period, right? Because it reached a fever pitch in her mind. And did she send him far away to make an opportunity
Starting point is 00:17:30 or did she take the opportunity to kill them when he was so far away? There's a lot of conjecture and talking about, was she given the right and wrong drugs? Did she take the right drugs? Was she over-medicated? Was she under-medicated? Where were the doctors?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Why? How did this happen? I just Googled 15% of women apparently get postpartum depression. Yes, but there is a distinct difference, which I think a part of what this trial's about, between postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. They are two separate things, but also can happen at the same time. Okay. So postpartum depression is, honestly, it is more common than we think. And it can create tremendous changes in behavior immediately after birth. same thing and it can happen after the second baby it can happen after any you know what I mean like it doesn't have to just happen with one but often if it happens once it's gonna happen again yeah we know that Lindsay Clancy had issues with the first baby she did have symptoms of postpartum depression just wouldn't latch it just it
Starting point is 00:18:32 would you mean the mother wouldn't yeah no the baby wouldn't latch yeah but that's that's very simple let's not get into the the breast weeds all right I know we all want to talk about who's latching and who's not all right I wish we could. I wish this whole talk could be about latching. A latchkey child. Is that what that is? That's just one that sucks on pieces of metal. That's one that is obviously it's doomed to be Tetsuo the Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:18:59 If anybody's seen that film, it is extremely upset. So they are, the prosecution is really interesting because the prosecution is saying they're bringing all these witnesses in to actually vouch for her character saying that Lindsay Clancy was an extremely attentive mom. She was
Starting point is 00:19:15 marathon runner. She was a nurse. She was, she had all of this shit going on to basically say, look. So the prosecution's like, she's really nice. Well, the, yes. So that they could say she either hid her symptoms knowingly or did not, like, like she had a plan. Like, yes, she was sick, but she wasn't so sick that she wouldn't know that there's a problem she needs to hide. And then she made a plan to kill the children. Okay. Right. So that's like one side of it. So. their post, like, look, she was this happy, healthy person who had no other main, quote, main issues. And this is the issue.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But the, so now the defense attorney, a guy by the name of Kevin Redington, his job is to basically be like, no, she's a crazy psychotic bitch. And nobody did anything about it. Like, the idea is to put it all back on the state, which is why they have been going hard at all the, her staff, like all the, like the psychiatrist, the nurse practitioner, and just the hospital itself. Okay. But isn't insanity like the hardest thing to plea? It's extremely difficult.
Starting point is 00:20:19 But this was different because we have series of notes because she did go to therapy. I feel like... I go to therapy. Yes. You go to therapy. I just, I don't feel any sympathy for her. Well, this is interesting because this is where your Ed's going to get in trouble. And because what's nice is that mom talk is hardcore trying to support Lindsay Clancy and say,
Starting point is 00:20:45 Postpartisan impression is real and it's far worse than anybody wants to talk about. I know it's bad and I know it's real, but so many people go through it, they don't fucking kill three kids. You see, this is a, it is interesting because I was watching Louis Thoreau spent time at a post, a postpartum depression clinic. Right. And one of the things, so one of the things keeps coming up in this trial, according to Dr. Jennifer Tuffs, her psychiatrist, who looks like she's 14 years old. Right. So this like, I feel like one of them. major issues is that Jennifer Tufts looks like a child.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Lindsay Clancy was one of her first jobs coming out of psychiatrists school. That's not a good first one. It is a hard for, like that's a part. I actually have a lot of empathy for the psychiatrist because I do feel like a lot was placed at an inexperienced
Starting point is 00:21:35 person's feet. Why would they not give it to a more experienced person? Because this is the United States government. This is the hospitals. There is a massive problem. Like, the defense is not incorrect. Mental health in this country is a fucking abysmal. Massive fucking problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Because the stuff that's coming up, it's just, let me kind of try to parse it. I'm sorry, I got so many questions. No, please. So Lindsay Clancy understood that there was an issue. Was afraid about going back to work. That was like kind of a built up. Paranoid, she was having paranoid thoughts. She was believing that the kids weren't going to properly learn how to live on a bottle, right?
Starting point is 00:22:11 that when she go to work, that they'd like starve to death. And that she started having really crazy, impulsive thoughts. You're just, this is all just stuff that is she was sick. She was very mentally ill. She was extremely mentally ill. But this is the issue. So she goes to Jennifer Tufts, her brand new psychiatrist, her husband, who is largely the most checked out human being.
Starting point is 00:22:33 If he could have sent a hologram to court, he would have, right? He's so fucking checked out that his. the way he's talking about her concerns leading to all of this stuff, is she saying stuff like, I think I might have had like some, I might have some impulsive, like, you know, intrusive thoughts about hurting the kids.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And he just kind of thought, which he's taught in all of these various things, is that you just have to ask her, do you have a plan to kill yourself for the kids? And does that distress you? And every time he asked those questions, he said, no.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And he said, I guess we're good then. You got to ask that more than once. You don't leave anyone alone with the children. I watched. All of the footage. She goes out for the fast food. You stay home.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, this is the problem. By this point, she was fucking cuckoo for cocoa bars, right? If she is completely insane, then he should be held accountable. Well, this is a, there's a lot of people talking about this. So lots of people failed her, not just the hospital. She goes to the hospital. So now she is kind of like, okay, I'm having an issue. She was given Prozac while she was in nursing school once.
Starting point is 00:23:34 She knows about psychiatric medication, and she's tried it, even though she's extremely, like, hesitant to do so. She goes to talk to this brand new psychiatrist who's just getting her with all the boilerplate stuff, asking all these questions. And Keith Redington is hammering this psychiatrist saying, well, why didn't you flesh all this stuff out? But psychiatrist only has a certain amount of tools that they could do. They have to ask you, do you have suicidal thoughts? Do you have homicidal thoughts? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:02 And then you, it's on you to say yes or no. And so every time Lindsay Clancy would show up. And so they talk about how there's a mood, which is what the psychiatrist talked about, which is what she tells you. So she asked Lindsay Clancy, how are you doing? And she says, fine. But then there's a thing called affect, which is the psychiatrist is looking at you and is basically- Being a judgy prick. Yes, but for reasons, right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 They're looking at you and seeing what are you like, though? How are you dressed? How are you talking? What's your energy like? What's all the stuff? And so she began to notice more and more that her affect was all over the place, but she kept saying that she was. fine. She kept saying she didn't fucking want to kill anybody. She didn't want to kill the kids.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. Meanwhile, her lipstick's on her nose and shit. Yes. And so they go and they keep putting her, they try very conservative medications on her. They give her a little bit of Zoloft, a little bit of this. And in the beginning, she talks, and I feel like a lot of what the defense is kind of working on is the jury not understanding how
Starting point is 00:25:02 some of these medications work. Because the big issue here is so like, oh, she was on all these medications, but she was on a lot of medications. that it takes weeks and months to work. And she would kind of dibble, dabble with each one. Yeah. And so none of them ever caught hold.
Starting point is 00:25:16 None of them worked. And then she also would go to various other places. Like she went from, she was talking to the psychiatrist, but then she kind of stopped talking to the psychiatrist to go talk to another prenatal care center who gave her another series of pills. She started taking that stuff, came back to the psychiatrist, and you're looking at an extremely inexperienced psychiatrist
Starting point is 00:25:34 that doesn't know what to do. And she keeps saying, the problem is because they're all like, because the defense attorney's hitting her, why didn't you follow up? Why didn't you do this? And she's like, because that's not what we do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:46 That's not what we do. We don't. That's not how old next week. Yes. Well, it's also, how many times have we just talked about this with just our general health care? Like, you have to go and get the appointments.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You have to do the follow-up testing. It was, sadly, the whole thing was pushed to Lindsay Clancy's lap to say, well, Lindsay Clancy should have been the one to be more. Or her husband. Yes. more open about our symptoms, more
Starting point is 00:26:11 searching for answers in terms of calling out. And there's a lot of people saying, oh, she tried, she tried, she tried. This is really the crux of the entire case, which is what do you believe? My problem is that I know that health care is fucked. Yeah. Especially when it comes of mental health. There's nowhere for these people
Starting point is 00:26:32 to go. Yeah, I agree. But the issue, too, is that even No, that is in the case. That is the case. So this is the system when currently we are in. She can't be let out. Well, no, she's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's really about, is she going to go to a mental hospital for the rest of her life? Or is she going to go to jail? Oh, well, you know, who cares? But it's not either, none is good. Neither one is good. Yeah. But this isn't true. As long as she ain't out and about, I guess she's crippled now, so she can't really do anything.
Starting point is 00:27:02 No, no, no, no. You have to get close for her to bite you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but this is, I really think that. All of this being said, when I had watched out Louis Thoreau postpartum depression, I thought it was interesting that there was one young lady he was following who was like really pleasant. And she was just like the sweetest, loveliest lady. And she had like supervised visits with her baby inside of this postpartum depression place. And they were like, he's like, I don't really understand what your problem is.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And she's like, well, I just keep trying to kill myself. and I can't, like, control when I kill myself, when I want to. And he's like, that's crazy because I'm talking to you and she's fine. She's like, yeah, it's like a thing. I don't, you know, I literally don't understand. Just because I'm nice doesn't mean I'm not trying to kill myself. Well, I'm just filled with despair. And so then what happens is like in the very documentary, you're talking to this woman,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and I felt the same way. I was like, oh, she seems fine. And then in the documentary, she breaks out that day. and attempt suicide. Okay. So it's this thing where you're seeing, I can see how there was no obvious symptoms
Starting point is 00:28:14 that the person is changing the way they appear to the health, all of the health professionals because it's really hard to say, I want to kill my, or I'm thinking about killing my kids because guess what they do?
Starting point is 00:28:30 Take the kids away. Yeah. And guess what Patrick Clancy was also probably urging her to do? Keep that down low. Yep. And not saying, hey, because Patrick Clancy, what he do, immediately divorced her after the thing, got remarried with a whole new family. He got, Patrick Clancy's get living.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Well, he's a stepfather. Patrick Clancy's never wanted to have a single bad thing happened to him in his life. Yeah. And he was never given the lesson that that's kind of what life includes. He seems like the most irresponsible person in this story to me. I hate Patrick Clancy. Yeah. After watching his
Starting point is 00:29:07 Testimony I fucking I do feel like The person who failed her The most is him That is my That's his job Is it take care of his
Starting point is 00:29:15 Fucking wife and his kids But also The also main issue here is How did someone fall in love With this fucking guy It's just because Everybody just tell The girls just won't come
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah Some girls just want to get that come And have the cum And the baby's inside you Do we know what he does for a living? He's in tech sales Ugh He's in tech
Starting point is 00:29:35 sales. So some people just want that fucking, that guy that'll come hard enough to get it inside you. And they don't care. They don't really care. Lindsay, these are not like passionate people, I guess. But Lindsay Clancy was a vaguely, was truly a loving mother and a high functioning member of society. And she went down a hole of extreme mental illness. And it really is hard because no one's psychic. Yeah, I think that no matter what the case is, she's crazy. Well, yes. She killed three kids. That doesn't make you not crazy. But should the health, a mental health community, should it be on them? That's the question. That's the question. The question is, is a psychiatrist supposed to see through stuff and then break the rules of modern mental health side that we have in the United States of America that sucks. But they would have to break the rules and go way out of their way, especially if they are a. Natalie, not a private practice psychiatrist like this, like she was?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. You're legitimately got how many clients? I hate to be this insensitive, but if one of your clients kills three children, I don't think you should be a psychiatrist anymore. Well, that's what they're trying to do to her. Well, get a new job. I don't know what to tell you. I don't think you're going to be good anymore. See, my problem is, is that I really do, I do have...
Starting point is 00:31:01 I feel bad for her. Don't get me wrong. I have empathy for every single human beings. in this process because they were all trying to quote unquote do their jobs but it is they are hamstrung by the industry themselves yeah but they're also uh it it's hard like how do you like are you legally culpable for giving a hundred and 15 percent i don't know if it's just a private industry where nobody gives a fucking shit and there's no uh nobody cares about bedside manner if They don't care about keeping people coming to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They just don't care, right? Like, I have, I just quit my doctor. I didn't get a brand new doctor because how much I hated my fucking doctor. And I'm a completely fine guy that lives, you know, like just whatever. I don't have necessarily any major health concerns. And I still couldn't reach my fucking doctor. And I was sick about them, not giving a fucking shit about my existence. So I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's just like, is this the moment that's going to change? in the entire mental health industry. I doubt it. No, not at all. We couldn't even change it with mass shootings. Yes. So I don't think that, I think that postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are both things that are extremely misunderstood. Yeah, because we don't fucking take the time to examine women or care about their health concerns. Because this is, and this is the major, that's the societal issue here. Yeah. So I do understand the people that are like, no, Lindsay Clancy was sick and she needed to have been taken care of. I do understand that. But, My main issue is that it'd be different if she just,
Starting point is 00:32:35 and I'm, this is super cruel, this is my fucking opinion, if she had just killed herself. It'd be very different to me. And I feel like, you know what? We've talked about it before. It's half a joke, but I mean it.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Leave. Well, Lindsay Clancy was extremely mentally ill. Yeah. She was very sick. Go move to fucking San Francisco. But if you're so sick that you can't see the edges of your sickness or can't understand, like that's my only,
Starting point is 00:33:01 again, my issue, would be as a juror is like she knew well enough to lie. Yeah. She knew well enough to tell everybody that she was having these symptoms but she didn't know what to do. Here's the problem. If she gets away with this, not a get
Starting point is 00:33:14 no one's getting away. No. If she goes to a mental hospital instead of prison, which I could be convinced that she belongs in a mental hospital, not prison. Also, I think it's a, I think it's a very dangerous precedent. But you see, it depends because it really
Starting point is 00:33:30 depends because if it can lead towards understanding postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis more, that would be super important. I guess this is an extreme situation. Like, think about that. Think about the fact that... What about Casey Anthony? Well, Casey Anthony,
Starting point is 00:33:46 Casey Anthony, covered up her crime. Casey Anthony had no, she had no his... Kaley was six. One of her kids was five. But it was the newest baby. Yeah. Is what turned, the postpartum depression
Starting point is 00:34:00 happened hardcore on the third baby. And she already had a history of dealing with the last, the second baby. So the third baby really was the thing that like started it all off. You really want to change shit? You put her in a mental hospital and you lock up the husband. I mean, that's how you change shit. Well, I think now it's interesting. You're starting to lock up parents who get their kids guns and they go shoot up places.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I truly. He should have been in there. It's his job as the fucking husband. It's just fascinating. She was seen by so many people. And there were so many people saying that no one could recognize her psychosis symptoms. And it's just, I guess my side stories LPOTL at gmail.com, my opinion is how the fuck are we supposed to know if you're feeling and thinking these things, if you're not articulating it? But she had to articulate it to him.
Starting point is 00:34:51 She will, she said every single thing she said was downplaying it because she did not want to blow everything up because, and I'll actually. put even more on Patrick Clancy. It's because old boy couldn't handle anything. Yeah. And so he just wanted it to be over. He wanted it to be over. He wanted her to just either shut up about it or kill herself so that the situation would be over and then he could have his precious trophy children because it's the
Starting point is 00:35:22 only thing that matters to these men is the children as property as lineage. That's all they give a shit about. So in my mind, he was just happy to get some brand new kids and a new, quote, unquote, problem for your wife so that he's never had to deal with it again. And now maybe he can get some money from the psychology. He can get some money from the hospital as well. Him suing everybody is fucking fucked up. Oh, yeah, I think so. It is really, it really is.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I think that this is kind of why I'm a little, I am a little bit harder to jump on the Lindsay Clancy boat because I think that the money grab at the hospital and the site. psychiatrist is a bit much. I do see them maybe taking the license away from the psychiatrist, though. I think that's, I could see that could happen. I don't see why not. I feel bad for her because I feel like she... I feel bad for her, but she's got to be emotionally destroyed after one of her patients killed three children.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Oh yeah, she's all fucked up, but that doesn't mean technically she has the profession and the connections to maybe help herself get over it, but also I'd say she just might not want this. If this is your first case out to get, I'll tell you what, if that's my psychiatrist and I hear about her being that person, it's like, I'm out. No, yeah, I'm out. Me too. No, I'm telling you. But I will, I just feel like the way that the defense is coming at the subject, I really don't like it.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I don't like. Well, they want her to get the death penalty. Well, no, the defense wants, where did this happen? This happened to Massachusetts. But I just, there's a part of me that, like, the way. way the defense is coming down hard on psychiatry is also a thing I don't really like. He's like
Starting point is 00:37:04 making fun a telehealth appointment. He's like saying all this stuff is like there's like a little thing there which is like no, some people that's how they can see anybody is a telehealth appointment. That's like the bare minimum. That's how Lindsay Clancy was even seeing anybody. That's how I see my therapist. But I just
Starting point is 00:37:20 I mean like in terms of like we can't just say oh it's close of the best like that's not the issue. The issue literally Zoom calls aren't the issue. is women's health. Yes. It is capital W. Capital H.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Women's health is the massive, massive, systemic issue on top of this whole fucking thing. For all of time. Yeah, and it doesn't really matter because we got a fucking fucking leather purse
Starting point is 00:37:43 in charge of the, who's the secretary of health who fucking shakes like a chihuahua and it's perfect seamless dookies. Yeah. And he couldn't give a fuck. Because he honestly, I think RFK'd kill every woman he could.
Starting point is 00:37:56 The other thing that's interesting is I heard that they're trying to like say that her suicide attempt wasn't legitimate. That's a whole, that's to me the meanest angle that the prosecution is taking. And I don't think that that's necessarily true. Because what they were trying to show was that she was a nurse. And if they're calling the slices on her arms. Oh, she was a nurse. Yeah. So they were saying the cuts on her arms and her neck were too superficial to have been serious. But I also feel like that's, that's like a whole. I feel like that's when we're getting into if I was a juror, I'd be like, let's not concentrate on this. I think that any person that kills their three children is crazy. Unless,
Starting point is 00:38:34 of course, those children are possessed by demons. Yes. And they have to be killed. And even if this woman, Lindsay Clancy, is possessed by demons, which aren't real, I think that she should still be locked away forever. What if your children defect to the Chinese? They give them. Is that war? Let them happen. No, that's war. No, they can have them. The Chinese can take the kids. You think you just give them up to the Chinese? You wouldn't let them not have them? You know, someone of my family adopted two Chinese girls.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I love that. And I love them. But they didn't defect. No, we, you know. If your adult children defected North Korea, you wouldn't want to fight them? Nah. If I had an 18-year-old son, I found that he was going to go join the North Korean army, I'd be like, you got to get through me first, son.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Really? Yeah, son, we got to fight right here. And I wrap myself in an American flag. I'd be like, oh, son, you want to go to fight for North Korean. Maria, you got to fight your fucking father first. He's 18. I know, but he's still, I mean, he's on, I put him on this earth. I take you out.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh, one of those. Yep. Well, that's what Clancy did. Patrick Clancy's the bad guy here. I mean, you know. I think that's my opinion. Honestly, I think the childbirth is the enemy. I mean, no one to be.
Starting point is 00:39:45 That's like my main issue. What I love is about two childless men on this is that the best part is not having kids. That's to me my favorite part of this. story is that I don't have kids. Every story we're telling here, I think, is like, well, maybe don't have kids. Except maybe like. Why, because they'll turn into Brian Coburger? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So Brian Coburger, we'll talk about this. Let's get into this slightly. We've never talked about Brian Coburg. It was like too big of a story and it was too confusing and now it's just like aggravating. For a long time, the plea, again, so for Lindsay Clancy, Side Stories L-P-O-T-L at g-mell.com. I'd love to hear your opinions on this. Know that.
Starting point is 00:40:32 We're just in it. I'm just here listening. I'm open. I'm open because I'll send her to a mental asylum. Any day, I love to. Yeah. I'll drive her. Live from your play.
Starting point is 00:40:45 So this is Brian. So Brian Coburger is the next story, right? So this, we never cover this because number one, Brian Coburger is a thin-faced, pale fuck ass piece of shit that as far as I'm concerned is doesn't exist
Starting point is 00:41:05 he's a ghost and I can't and he's going to go away to a concrete square and we're never going to hear from this waste of space ever again he definitely looks like Patrick Bateman style like psychopath he is a guy anybody that looks up to 10 Bundy is a fucking moron yeah and he's
Starting point is 00:41:21 chilling with um oh our boy um uh Valo Mr. Valo Oh, Chad Dillian, him, Chad Daybell. So what happens, Brian Koteberger, on November 13, 2022, he murdered four people in Moscow, Moscow, Idaho, which was, you're four young ladies. Three young ladies. Was it? Was it?
Starting point is 00:41:41 Was it? All right. So these guys were, it's a very fucked up story. Four victims, Madison Mogan, Kaylee Goncalves, Zana Kurnodal and her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin. he seemed to have been stalking the house, ready to go. He had a whole, like he was dressed all in black. He had a specific knife for it, and he broke into the house and the night. He killed the two upstairs people.
Starting point is 00:42:07 One of the kids downstairs heard it all. They thought it was, like, them and their boyfriend and tussle with the dog, you know, all this kind of shit. All this kind of confusion. We don't know. Then he left in the middle of the night. They woke up the next morning because they had been partying all night. They woke up just assumed everybody was just in their rooms and they weren't found to like the middle of the morning.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And it was this horrific scene. Now, Brian Koberger did plead guilty. So he went through. There was three years of prep, which is why we've never talked about this. Because the details were largely wrapped up. There's a new Netflix documentary that I didn't finish. Yeah, I haven't watched it either. But I will, I have to finish it.
Starting point is 00:42:46 But the Brian Koberger's story to me is kind of up and down. The reason why we're even talking about it is. is that he's trying to rescind his guilty plea. Now, one thing that Brian Coburger did during all of his time period was really act like a top fucking great chode, right? He's a little Dennis Raider, BTK, in love with himself, thinks that he's the most evil man in the world and wants attention. And I think what happened was that he realized that when he got rid of the trial, because the trial was very much going to get him. There's a bunch of evidence that have still never come out. We know that there was a specific sheath to a knife.
Starting point is 00:43:25 They never found the knife, right? They never found the knife, but they found the sheath that he used. We know that that was all connected to him. They connected the car to him. But apparently the car was slightly off too, right? There's something like that. There was like, because it was a white Hyundai, but it was like a different year. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:42 The problem with Brian Coburgers is that he was getting a doctor in criminology. So he really was. He would know how to get away with it. He was trying to get. He was doing his best to get away with. And he really had planned for quite a bit. And so as the trial was going to kick off, they were like, you know, he's just such a piece. First they were trying to say that he was too autistic to go to trial.
Starting point is 00:44:04 No. He said he was too autistic, but then they were like, he's fine. Yeah, no, no, no. He's fine. This is the same thing as last time. There's plenty of autistic people in the world. Yeah. Yeah, only a quarter of them could murder.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like a fourth of the people who work at this network. Yeah, like I think a lot of people here. are. Now it took almost three years. That was where the trial could kick off. And then they eventually said they gave him an offer because they were going to, it's a death penalty state. Yes. So they were like, well, take the death penalty off if you just
Starting point is 00:44:33 plead. Firing squad, I think. Yeah, which would be fun. Yeah. On one end. And so the families were unhappy because they really wanted some real old-fashioned justice. I don't think they understand truly how bad jail is. I mean, prison. And for
Starting point is 00:44:49 somebody like Brian Koberger, it will be extremely bad for him. Oh yeah, he killed three girls. Oh, everybody's caught. Can't wait to fucking test him. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:57 like even the Nazis hate him. Yeah, everywhere, they can't, well, he'd join the Nazis. You'd have to. If I was him, he didn't have a choice.
Starting point is 00:45:03 If I was him, straight to the white power guys, and be like, hey, what's up? How are you doing? 420. They won't let me be Muslim.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Oh, hi guys. I can't be trans race yet. Um, soon. But, yeah, so they gave it that he finally just said, but now he's trying to withdraw his plea.
Starting point is 00:45:23 There is so, so they're trying to redo the whole trial. The cops coerced him is what he's saying. He's full of shit. He just does, he just wants attention.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I mean, the Netflix documentary came out and then he did this. Yes, it's because he wants to be in the spotlight. He wants to trial. He is now mad that he didn't do the trial. And he wants a trial.
Starting point is 00:45:43 The families are actually pro all of this because they want him to get the death penalty. Yeah. But I don't think they understand that you have to, there's all these other like parameters that have. to hit. They're going to have to go there every day for a fucking year. I think that this
Starting point is 00:45:55 is all not going to go anywhere and he's just going to sit in jail. I doubt that they're going to redo all of this. I truly, I even know how you can rescind it. You've said it. I mean, he said it. I don't know how you rescind it. I don't know how you rescind it. I don't know how you like, I don't know how that works. Side stories, L-P-O-T-L-Gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I just think that he's a fucking piece of shit. But did you watch the victim statements? No. One of the truly... Oh, the sister. Yeah. The sister, reading Brian Koberger to filth,
Starting point is 00:46:26 is truly one of the best true crime moments I've ever seen because it's finally like someone of the younger generation actually saying what they think about serial killers
Starting point is 00:46:40 and kind of what we've been saying about zero killers for so long. Like Colin, basically you're a pussy that couldn't do anything and you need to attack. And you need to kill
Starting point is 00:46:49 three women that were smaller than you your sleep because you couldn't handle him. Yeah. And she brought up his failed attempts to be a rapper. Yeah. Which is I feel like it's number three now. Cyril killers,
Starting point is 00:47:03 former rappers. Yeah. I think that attempting rapping is one of the... How do I feel about having an ability to rap? I feel like you're born being able to rap. Yeah. I feel like there are guys that are just born being able to rap
Starting point is 00:47:19 with gays and ladies. Gies and ladies. born being able to rap and there's no school that you're going to go to that's going to make you be able to rap there's no I don't think there's any lesson I can't rap but I can do a pun
Starting point is 00:47:33 well that's different I'm a word play yeah word play I can do could you try to do a furry style for everybody what's my topic Brian Coburger Brian Coburger
Starting point is 00:47:43 yeah what's going on my name is Brian Coburger I like to have lettuce on my cheeseburger man no beat I didn't have a beat yeah that's bad I didn't kill nobody no I didn't kill anybody he's innocent no I didn't even try to be a rapper
Starting point is 00:48:04 you put that on it no I can't even imagine like I try to be a rapper and everything turns into sort of like a stilted ho-down for a child's play yeah beats I got the beats come and grab my beats they're red you peel them you dip them you cook them you make them cool again and you When I rap, I do it right.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You're going to see it's quiet a sight. When I'm rapping, everybody is dancing. You better get yourself to prancing. Out my way because you got an ugly face. You better be careful because I'm going to put a fist in there. You did better than I did. For a while. Back to the trial.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Back to the trial. Thank you. But, yeah, so, Coburger, I mean, he's just going to be in prison forever. Yeah, I doubt that anything is going to happen with us. They're not going to kill him in prison. They're just going to keep this the way it is, and he's fucked. I think he's going to get beat to fucking death. You think so?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yeah. Not in Idaho. You know what it is? Truly, if he doesn't join a white power group, the main issue is his attitude. Yeah. I think that guys in prison from what I've seen from all the prison material I watch, like I watch a lot of prison material, I watch a lot of like, you know, besides Big Herk. I like watch a lot of, like, prison interviews.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I like Oz. Yeah, I mean, that's, but I like the real guys. I like the real men. and when I watch them, they don't like guys like Brian Koberger. And Brian Koberger seems to be a really good... Because it's not even about... I'm not even talking about, like, gross jail rape.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I'm talking about, like, calling... What they call it, pulling your card. Yeah. They pull your card. They ask what you do. And then the thing is, is that sometimes what will happen,
Starting point is 00:49:40 especially if you're new, you've got to either fight your way in, right? You've got to fight the biggest guy there. You got to... They'll do that, right? They ask, they got a bunch of lingo that you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And all of a sudden, you're in there, and you've got to deal with it. and everybody's got something going on. And Brian Coburger is going to need protection. And so the problem is the first guy he's going to jump to who's going to be like, I got you, man. I'm not protecting you, man.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Which how it always goes. And that guy's going to do something weird to him. And then he's going to be like, oh, fuck, what do I do? And another guy, I'll be like, me, brother. I'm going to fight you. I got you. I got you. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And he's fucking dead. And then he's going to join the white power movement. And then eventually from within there, someone will kill him from within there. Yeah. That's my view. I think that's a good, I think it's a good theory. Yeah. You know, speaking of hip hop, the Tupac trials heating up. That's right. Keefe D's going to go down.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Kifi D's going down. I can't believe that that's fucking happening. Yeah, Shug Knight, almost in the same breath, said, I don't want any part of this. And then immediately was like, there's other people involved. It's not just Kifi D. Like, he's like immediately was like, I'm not being, I'm not getting dragged to prison. I ain't doing this. And then he called TMZ. He's like, listen, just got to know. Kifi D is a little bit of trouble.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So was going to have to come to help me that. Because Kifi D. Trump. So D. Davis, he is in court right now. They're trying to put Tupac Shakur's 1996 assassination on him. Well, he's talked about nothing. But all of his various connections to it, how happy he was that he did it, he was the one that did it. He said he was in the car. He said that he gave the gun to the people who shot Tupac.
Starting point is 00:51:17 He said that he would have shot Tupac if he was on. the other side of the car. But because he wasn't, the other guy had a better shot, and so that guy shot Tupac. What y'all don't know is that KeevD was in character. Okay, Keefe D. is just a character Keefe D plays. All right. My real name is Keith. That's me.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It's Dwayne, actually. It's me, Dwayne. You can't be mad at me. You can't be mad at Dway. D. Dwayne doesn't know what Keefe D does sometimes. Keevee D, he's out of pocket. Yeah. Me, Dway, I'm just in the back seat with my favorite.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Fingers crossed. Hoping that. Oh, he pulls us into a safe little place. But every time KVD's got the wheel, we end up in trouble again. So Kifidi-D is the main witness against himself because he admitted to doing it. Or bragged about it. 12 podcasts. He put it in a bunch of podcasts and he put it in a book.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And he claims that the podcast don't mean anything and then there was a ghost writer for the book. I do believe there was a ghost writer for the book. I don't think that KVD pulled up to a little conversation. coffee shop and got his latte and just sat and he was just like I just love to be you know when I write my book Brooklyn is just another character and LA is just another it's just the soup we're all in and just see him with his sweater like he's got like the big like cath man on and he's sitting there just going like it was the rapiest of days it was the crappiest of days Well, remember, Tupac and Shug Knight apparently beat up Kee-Feedee D's friends in Vegas right before the shooting, and this was retaliation.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But it turns out everyone else who was in the car with Kee-Feed-D is dead. Yes. He's the last one. Him and Shug are the only people still alive. This whole scenario. From the whole, yes. So it's so crazy. And then Shug, who's also in prison for murder currently, probably not going to.
Starting point is 00:53:14 to get out for a very long time is trying to release his own book and has pushed the release of his own book back Shug Knight's book called Your Pain is My Joy is the name of Shud's book. That's the name of his fucking book. Your pain
Starting point is 00:53:33 is my joy. Jesus Christ, buddy. Because he wants to see what shakes down with this trial before he finishes his book. Why would he name it? That's hilarious. It should have been like The Shug Knight story. Why, I'm fine. Hey, how I ran death row and escaped it.
Starting point is 00:53:51 How am I writing this book while blind? The Shug Knight story. Remember when he said he was blind? Because, yeah, he hit the guy. He was like, I couldn't see. I couldn't see. But you're driving. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It is unfortunate. Also, I could say Shug Knight tried to run me off the road personally. So I see him as a vehicular murderer. Well, I think that he had a hard time seeing. I think that was the problem. He should have got glasses. And you know what I blame is toxic masculinity? And I think that that's why Shug Knight refused to get glasses. Are you ready for this? Yeah. Shug Knight?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Probably a CTE. Fascinating. He played for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I could see that. That makes total sense. Yeah. He's violent, impulsive. I don't know what else you call him? Bad attitude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big guy. Straight gangster. Straight up. Straight up gangsta. You think he'd like us?
Starting point is 00:54:44 No. I bet him he did not care for me. Actually, he seemed like, you know what? I'd take it back. He was actually kind of nice, and that was more aggravated. Yeah, wow. I was terrified.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oh, you should be. Yeah, yeah, I called him Mr. Knight and everything. I would call him Mr. Knight. I'd be calling him, sir. You don't call him Shug. That's for sure. We didn't earn that. Hey, there, Mr. Shugs.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah, no, he was hanging out with Kat Williams at the comedy store. Not a friendly at table. Hey there, boys. You got to have a good time? Hey, you guys want some chicken wings? I bet you do, huh? How are you boys doing?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh, right. I'm not with me out of my bowling. You want to go bowling with me and my family? That's short for sugar, isn't it? Yeah. It's really cute. Is that short for sugar? I bet you got a little sugar in your tank, right? That means you're having a good time, right?
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'm sorry. You know, most black men get diabetes at your age when they're your wage? Can I taste your urine? Could I taste your urine like Patrice O'Neill's her girlfriend did? Do you see that? Do you know Patrice O'Neill? Excuse me. Do you know Brian Gumble?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Hey, excuse me. Do you know Barack Obama? I bet he knows Brian Gumpel. Yeah, sure. Yeah, Brian Gumble will fucking stab you in the throat. DeForvid. He's also a musician who's facing prison. We talked about him to death.
Starting point is 00:56:03 The updates for him are he is currently on trial. Turns out that he had knocked up Celeste when she was 13 and she got an abortion. Yes, it's an abortion DeFovit. It was an abortion to Forfeit. And then she was murdered a year later, most likely by him, because she was found in his car. His trial is going to stir very soon. And I don't really get, I'm not going to get into the weeds of it until the trial's over.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I think a lot of people are already following the trial. I think it's going to be pretty quick. Yeah, he's going to be arraigned on August 31st. Yeah, I have a feeling it's going to be pretty quick. DeForvid's really small. Yeah. That is one of the weirdest things that when you see all these footage of him now, he starts to realize, like, he really is like a kid.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Well, he murdered one. Yep. And so there's that. Now DeForavid's going to be singing for supper in jail. You know, he could put out, we need a concert, though. If DeForvid puts out a vinyl from prison, how awesome is that? I mean, no one's done it in a long time. That would be kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Has anyone ever done it on the Blues Brothers? Was Folsom prison? Like, was that recorded there? Well, it was recorded there, but he wasn't a prisoner. Yes. Manson put out a prison album. He did. Oh, man, DeFord gave it to you.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's in a pile you gave me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah. DeForvid, I think that could really do it here. I feel like if he wanted to use the power of song, this would be the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:27 So, but he's fucked. Is he going to get death penalty, we think? No. No. We don't think so? No, it's California. Yeah, but I think they were talking about it. There is like a loophole in California where you can get the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Nah, I think they're just going to... To be honest, I wonder if he'll even get to trial. Yeah. He could plea out. Yeah. He could very well play out. I think he's just going to have to take life in prison. Yeah, he's going to go jail.
Starting point is 00:57:51 There's no way they're hooking him up with anything. I don't know if they... Because they really did not... They don't like him. No one does. No one likes him. His music's bad. We haven't even heard from his parents.
Starting point is 00:58:03 No, no, no. They are disappointed. And isn't that worse than being angry? Yeah. That's how I feel. That's kind of why I've never murdered. Yeah. Because they didn't want to embarrass my mom.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Well, another one of his neighbors is back in the news as well. Nick Reiner. Oh, that's right. Nick Reiner, who is like literally hanging out with DeFordid. Yeah, they're like in the same selves and shit. They're like right next to each other. Is indicted on new charges in special circumstances. This just happened today.
Starting point is 00:58:37 We were recording this last week, of course. He has pled not guilty. Two counts as special circumstance alleges multiple murders and the murder by means of lying in wait after a grand jury indictment was unsealed. I can't think he's not going to get his inheritance. Have we heard anything about the inheritance thing or no? Well, he was, the thing is his lawyers are trying to get it. Alan Jackson quit being his lawyer. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:03 The famous attorney Alan Jackson. We didn't have the money. Yeah, he didn't have the money. So Alan Jackson's out. And now he currently has a public defender, but he was supposed to get his $1.5 million two years ago, according to the paperwork that the Reiner's had filled out for him. And he is not currently guilty. So, well, I bet you they didn't give him that money because he was already. Because he was doing drugs and he was erratic and he was a fucking psychopath.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And there's no follow-up stories from the June thing with him demanding that inheritance. I don't think he got it. Yeah, I don't think he did. No, but he's still trying to get it. It is, that is happening. And also, his aunt has been visiting him in prison. Rob Reiner's sister keeps going there. And then the, and then the siblings, the nieces and nephew, his brother and sister are very mad at the aunt.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Family's weird. Yeah. Family is really weird because I do see in one aspect, you're like, there's like a whole, like, weird Christian impulse that I just don't understand. Like, the idea that, like... They're Jewish. You know, but It feels like It's Judeo
Starting point is 01:00:14 It's something Comes from the same place It's just the idea of like Like you've got to keep him in the family Because he's family Right like there's something about like Yeah, well he's family And it's like
Starting point is 01:00:26 You murdered your brother I just I'm one of those where As soon as you kill one of us Especially more like Even just I'll give you, I'll throw your bone Even if you just rape one of them
Starting point is 01:00:37 us. I cut my aunt Judy off for being a bitch. Yeah. I feel that I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna forgive you. Unless we hated her together, unless Rob Ryan, they hated Rob Reiner, I hate that bitch. Yeah. And that bitch, like, if that
Starting point is 01:00:53 bitch, don't miss Rob Reiner, she can suck my fucking dick. Yeah, I mean, it's weird that she's visiting him in prison, but I guess it's not enough to really go after her. No, no. It's family and it's complicated and some people feel the need. And it There's like a whole, also you know how many times you've been around,
Starting point is 01:01:09 you've ever been around somebody that's like, has to be almost like better than everybody else to just lord it over everybody. So the aunt, I could see the aunt definitely being like, well, I visited Nick. None of you visited Nick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Because none of you are empathetic enough, not as empathetic as me. Because I feel like they're all like, well, someone's got to visit him. So I go and try someone has to because he's a family. That's our family. A family member.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh, he killed the director of Princess Bride. Good. Good. I hated the Princess Bride. I thought it was hack. I will stand by him. Love that Nick Reiner took out the horrible director of the president. Was it the American president? A few good men.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Few good men? I think he did American president, too. You're right. You fucking traitor to the American people. If I could kill him again, I would. He turned down, Jack. And when he turned down Jack, that's how I knew he had a death sentence. I mean, this kid is fuck. You know, fuck Nick Reiner.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Fuck Nick Reiner, for sure. Fuck Nick Reiner. Man, his dad even made a movie with him. He even, like, went out and made a movie with him. Like, he, like, it's an awful movie. I tried watching it. Fuck Nick Reiner. Fuck you, Nick Reiner.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Fuck you. Fuck you, you piece of shit. I hope you fucking rot in prison, you fucking piece of shit. So that's what's going on with him. Yeah, sir. Sorry about that. I just... No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Get angry. I agree with you. Certain things I can get angry at. I'm angrier to him than Lindsay Clancy. Mm-hmm. Because, you know, those kids didn't make any movies. Can we keep that or have to cut that? That's all right.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah, well, you know. You know, it's that's hard. You know what comes down to? Those kids would have made terrible movies. They would use AI or whatever. Now I got a cut. Oh, fuck. God, dear my God.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Fuck. Well, I think we did it, Eddie. Oh, yeah. And Luigi's trying to get out of it, too. Luigi's got, you know, of all the people that we need to talk about, Luigi's fine. Okay, Luigi's got plenty of money. I feel like he's the only one that has, like, a chance of getting out of this from now. Oh, very much so.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Well, this is because of how badly they fucked everything up. Oh, so the guy from, the guy who shot Charlie Kirk's got a shot, too. Oh, that's right. We didn't even cover Tyler. Yeah, he's got a shot to maybe get out, too. Yeah. Well, you got one shot. The, um.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Hey, man! Don't fire me, Henry. But no, we're having fun here. It's a satire program. But the main thing is, is he's going to do federal trial before the state trial. And if he somehow wins the federal trial, the state can't try him on double because of double jeopardy. Double jeopardy. Like that movie with those guys.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Yeah. Who is it? Lawrence Fishburn. Morgan Freeman. Double jeopardy's with Ashley Judd. Mm. and Athlete Judd and Tommy Lee Jones. Interesting. I was way off.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah, I remember that. Bruce Greenwood. Yep, 1999. You played JFK. You know what? This is one of those movies that I only know from my time working at Hollywood video. Yeah, I don't think I ever watched it, but I do remember seeing the cover a bunch. There's a specific time period of movies.
Starting point is 01:04:25 That's why I was confused because it's got the same cover as Kiss the Girls. And high crimes. And every other Ashley Judd movie from 1997 to 2000. Yeah. Ashley Judd did a bunch of these movies in which she had the same poster. And they're all, they're all highly mediocre. Luigi kind of looks like Ashley Judd. We got to end.
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Starting point is 01:05:47 on September 11th, across the country? If you want to, sure. Yay! Of course. Yeah, no. People are going to think you're coming now, but you should. Letter roll. But, you know, when you can see Henry and I, you can see us on September 18th in Norfolk,
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