LATE BLOOMERS - 5: THE ANTI SOCIAL CONTRACT: 20 New Rules For An ADHD & Autistic World
Episode Date: August 26, 2026This week on LATE BLOOMERS, Rich and Rox are throwing out the social rulebook and writing their own. Twenty new rules for a world built for ADHD and autistic brains instead of against them — becaus...e eye contact shouldn't be mandatory, small talk shouldn't be the default, and nobody should have to lie about liking a haircut.From compulsory name badges (because nobody with ADHD can remember a name five seconds after hearing it) to abolishing dress codes, banning greetings cards, and introducing a visible social battery indicator so you never again have to mask through a conversation you don't have the capacity for. This episode covers the unspoken rules that make everyday socialising exhausting for neurodivergent people, and what a world built around executive dysfunction, sensory overwhelm, and direct communication could actually look like. Rich and Rox debate arrival windows instead of start times, why "how are you" should be legally binding, why last-minute plans should just be called plans, and why friendship should be measured by depth, not by how often you text back.If you're ADHD, autistic, AuDHD, or just someone who's ever felt like the current social contract wasn't written with your brain in mind, this is the episode where two neurodivergent adults finally say the quiet part out loud.20% off Loop Earplugs: https://www.loopearplugs.com/adhdlove
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Imagine a world where everybody has to wear a compulsory name badge,
and if you're at a party and you want to leave,
you can just walk out without saying by and it isn't considered rude.
Today, we, two neurodivergent people, are rewriting the social rulebook.
Here's 20 things that we would implement if we were in charge.
Welcome to late bloomers, where we are getting our lives together.
Eventually.
Brought to you by our amazing sponsor, Loop Earploid.
So, babe, we're in charge.
This is wonderful.
Imagine if this was actually real, though.
Like, can you imagine?
Oh, I absolutely love it.
So listen, here's our 20 social rules.
In fact, social norms.
These are just the norm now.
If you don't do it, you're weird.
Yeah, and you're going to laugh at you.
Yeah.
I'll start.
Number one, everybody has to wear a name badge.
Why is that?
Because I can't remember anybody's names.
I can't tell you the anxiety.
You walk in a room, hello, what's your name?
Simon, Dave, Will.
Immediately gone, cool.
I then need to reference them, call them.
I don't remember.
I'm anxious.
I'm stressed.
Add a little name badge.
Get it tattooed.
Simon.
Like, Simon, can you come and help me?
Done.
What about if it was just more acceptable to just not know the name?
It's what you.
That's what I would prefer, because I don't want to read the name badge either.
I just want to go on and talk to you.
So in your world, names are.
abolished and you just you it boy no i think you can have names but it wouldn't be deemed rude
if you if you just said oh do you know what it's our world i'm happy to run with it oh yeah um
ready and my one my number two your birthday is your responsibility not anyone else is
i mean that feels pointed well no like look if you want a big party call you arrange it if you
don't if you want a quiet little sit down
Cool. If you're on a holiday, you book it.
Wait. So you book your own birthday party and you invite people.
So no one else helps you books it.
No.
I mean, it would save a lot of hassle or getting things wrong or...
It saved me a lot of money because I would be going to the cinema.
Because I'd never book anything.
Yeah.
Because I can't organise.
I wouldn't save money though, is it?
Actually, I spend more on your birthday than I do my birthday or I would on my birthday because
It's like Bubby would like nice things and go to nice places.
But you would still spend a lot of money on your own birthday.
But I wouldn't because I can't organise anything.
So I'd have all these dreams of this elaborate five-star spa, all my mates, everyone.
But I'd never, if birthdays were our own responsibility, my birthday is a Maccas on a Thursday night, I think.
So are you not up for this?
Because we could implement this.
These are the new social.
This is what's happening.
And we're in charge.
Can I get a signature on the bottom of these cards after?
Number three, phone calls are to be made illegal unless you need an immediate answer.
So if it's an emergency, give me a ring.
And if you are like, I'm outside and I need the code right now, give me a ring.
Otherwise, don't.
It's illegal.
Okay.
So if it is legal to make a phone call if it's urgent, does that mean you have to answer the phone?
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
It's a two-way street.
Right.
So no more phones on silent, impossible to get hold of.
It's like if you ring me, I'll answer, but it better be urgent otherwise you're going to prison.
Doesn't that just sound glorious?
Like, I want to live in that world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because my phone would always be on because if it rang, I would know to.
Someone I love needs me.
I'm answering.
But when it's just some prick calling me, it could have been a text.
They might not be a prick.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I just got a weird thing with that.
I just, if it could be a text, send a text, and I'll ignore that as well.
I love that.
Number four, small talk is illegal.
Wow, we've both gone for some illegals here.
Yeah, another prison sentence.
Small talk.
Right, I'm down, because I also hate small talk.
talk, but what is, so what is the social norm? You walk in at a party, you're introduced to someone
for the first time. What do we do? I can play it out. Oh yeah, nice to meet you. My name's Dwayne.
I'm rich. Been really hot recently, isn't it? Oh, sorry, mate. We're not going to get to
know each other. You're going to jail.
Well, they're just immediately arrested on the spot.
Like minority reports.
I mean, like they know.
They're taken away then.
Small talk.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
But what I need to know is what are we replacing it with.
So let's say you go to a party and I say, oh, rich, meet Sarah, who I used to go out with.
All right.
So I'd be like, Rich, I'm rich.
Oh, hi, nice to meet you, Sarah.
How are you doing?
Oh, I've got a UTI actually.
I'm really struggling with pain.
I'd be like, actually, I'm having a marriage.
as well.
I, like, pood myself and followed through yesterday.
Do you know what I mean?
At least it's real.
Okay, so, small talk out for big talk.
Big talk. We're talking big in this world.
I actually got to say, I'm feeling it.
Okay, number five, this could not be more perfect.
It's like you read my cards.
I didn't.
I know.
How are you is legally binding.
So what you've just said, how are you?
You don't just go, I'm fine, thanks. How are you?
I'm really good, thanks. How are you? Yeah, lovely.
Getting food. How are you? You have to answer and it's legally binding. So you must tell the truth.
How are you? Do you know what? Really good. I've been working out. I've been doing quite,
I've been sleeping well. I'm feeling really good at the moment. Awesome. How are you? Not very good.
I'm struggling. Mental health. Somebody's ill. I'm so sorry. Like, allow a route in to a normal, real human conversation.
I tell you why this is genius and you won't even know why this is genius
because you would love to ask people how are you and they give you a real answer
I don't want to I don't want to know so I won't ask them
right so I need to go back to the example of Sarah who I've introduced you to in the last
question so that party rich this is Sarah Sarah this is rich and I walk away
yeah what are you saying nothing
if there's nothing to be said nothing
I'll sit down with my little
diet coat
sapping it in the corner
and you just ignore someone you've been
because I don't think like
oh I love this song
I don't think that's small talk
because that's like saying I love this song
that could get us onto
talking about Marvel or whatever
like I get to choose
you would bore her to death
with your special interest
well then I'd go jail
wouldn't I maybe I don't know
no not in our world
What do you mean?
Special interests.
Keep going.
All right.
Number six, eye contact is optional.
Yeah.
Like, don't make it weird.
Like, in fact, don't look at it.
Like, if you look me in the eyes, you're weird.
Well, no, some people will like eye contact.
I don't.
Well, I don't.
I do when I'm listening, but I don't when I'm talking.
So if I'm like talking to someone,
unless it's you, I'll look away,
but if I'm listening to them,
I'll probably be looking at their eyes.
So how are we going to handle this?
Do you almost need like a sticker
that's like, look me in the eyes,
don't look at me or else you'll be arrested?
Is this illegal or is it just a bit more flexible?
No, I think it's optional,
because if I look you in the eyes
and you don't like eye contact,
you can look away.
But I mean, eye contact is optional in this world.
Is it more like,
because people think it's rude if you don't look at them?
It's not really optional in society.
standards because it's literally in interviews it,
maintain good eye contact.
Yeah, okay.
It's looked upon as good or bad.
Oh.
So eye contact is just neutral.
Yeah.
It's whatever.
It's like whatever.
I'm actually kind of obsessed.
Okay.
Okay, number seven.
You can't pause this long on a podcast.
I have said this to you before.
I know you do it for dramatic effect.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
I do.
be like as my, as my internet gone down.
I'm reading.
I'm reading.
Long one, is it?
So,
yeah.
Talking about your special interest,
nobody can say it's boring.
People have to listen.
I don't know how I feel about that.
This might be the first one that I'm like,
oh, I don't like it.
I tell you for why.
I don't like.
talking at people about my special interest.
I like finding people that share the same one.
So just forcing them to have to listen to it.
Oh, no. Okay.
They're not excited about what I'm saying.
We are deciding the new world order in this discussion.
So I'm up for changing it.
I do think you're right.
I would love nothing more than to someone to sit down and talk to me about
psychoanalysis.
and different types of therapy and what they're going through,
and Nancy McWilliams and Jonathan Shedler.
And like, maybe it's at a party,
a segregation via special interest,
including a small talk, like.
No, because that's illegal.
They can do that in prison.
Prison would just become people.
How's the weather really good?
How are you being really good?
I love it.
So are you happy with the world and parties and social events,
segregated by a special interest.
So I'd be like therapy people and they'd all come.
You'd find the Marvel people.
You'd never see me again.
It can be cordoned off.
Marvel.
There's a Marvel section.
If there's someone in there, I'm like, yes.
Isn't that Comic-Con?
Well, yeah, maybe.
Oh, it's your turn.
Right.
Number eight, Neurodivergent goodbye is standard.
So sometimes referred to as an Irish goodbye.
I actually do do this.
Yeah.
I just leave.
Yeah.
I don't want to, like, when we were at my brothers the last time, I was like, can we go now?
And you were like, yeah, we've been it.
And it's, we've done enough.
And then it was 50 minutes waiting for you to say goodbye to everyone,
like one on one, give them a cuddle, and then sometimes conversations started.
Just leave, isn't it?
I actually think I really like this, because there is this expectation to say,
I love you to see you say bye
like just leave, just what,
that's the Irish goodbye,
in fact, it would just be called a goodbye.
They've said goodbye
and that just means you've left without saying goodbye.
And anyone that comes around going,
hi, just letting you know I'm leaving now,
he's a bit weird.
Well, if someone said goodbye
and then they started talking to me,
I'll be like, why are you talking to me?
Is it illegal?
I don't know if it carries a prison sentence.
I think it can be called out though.
Like, look, brother, you said goodbye two minutes ago,
Why are you talking to me now?
Why are you still here?
Are you a liar?
Yeah.
So goodbye is a one-time event when you walk out.
I'm down.
It's feeling so good.
Right.
Number nine.
Number time?
It's about time.
Time in the number nine.
Arrival windows.
Okay.
I'm not sure I like this one.
So.
Continue.
Oh, I'll allow it.
Time is confusing.
For some.
For some.
Yes, it is.
But you'll be like starts at eight, be there for eight,
and I'll be like, starts at eight, I'll be there for eight,
running late, get there for eight 45 sweating.
And you turn up at eight 45 sweating, panicking, anxious.
And then I go, oh, don't worry, it was a loose,
it's not starting until nine.
Why don't you tell me then, right?
So on the invite, when you ask me to come,
whether it's text, wedding invite,
an arrival window.
So arrive anywhere between eight or nine,
and you are not, stop shaking your head.
It won't work.
Start, arrive anywhere between eight or nine.
You are not late.
At nine o'clock is when you become late.
Therefore, I've got an hour to turn up, to chill, to vibe.
Time is flexible.
Why are you shaking your head to me?
It won't work.
I tell you, because you, nine o'clock would just be the new eight o'clock.
So you would get ready to try and get there for nine o'clock and end up.
So there's something in it, but what would be better is if you said 8 o'clock,
and then everybody is allowed to be an hour late,
but they don't know they're allowed to be an hour late.
So this is going to take like a mind wiping device or something.
Yeah, we can invent that.
Yeah.
So it would only work if you don't know you're allowed to be an hour late.
Yeah, but this isn't just ADHD time blindness.
This is also like autism taking it literally.
Like it starts at 8 and it's got to be there for 8.
Well, you're saying that like it's a bad thing.
No, it's a really good thing.
But if there is a soft start,
well, if it doesn't really start till half 9 and then you're just there early,
like, oh my God, can't small talk.
Well, that would be me.
I'd be there at 8.
Yeah.
So like you would also benefit from being told the arrival window.
But I would also not like there being a loosey-goosey arrival window.
Like if I'm doing a part-
If it was a rival window for people who want to socialise 8 till 9, events start and 9.
Then the 9 o'clock would be your new 8 o'clock and you would be late.
No one needs discussing.
Right, number 10, everyone has a wish list for gifts.
So no one has to guess.
Oh.
You just have like whatever shopping you'd like for you.
It would be garage and there's some new golf shop.
Like what influencers have like their Amazon wish list.
Yeah.
So like weird old dudes combined.
them presents. It's that, but for friends and family, a wish list. Like the wedding
gift lists, I actually, do you know what? We never had one of them. No, no. If I wanted it,
I would. But, but it would really help me if I'm buying you gifts for your birthday,
because I'm like, I don't know, I don't want to buy a clothes. I don't know, like, I don't
know. So basically, it's like an app where you have like a shopping cart of a wish list,
all different shops that you want in the right size. And then when it comes,
Comes to birthday, you go on, you buy it all up, done.
I love that so much.
You should build that at.
Wish list.
Yep.
Wow, okay.
Before we get on to number 11, a very quick word from our amazing sponsor.
Now, if you are neurodivergent, you may not only struggle with social rules.
You might also struggle with sound sensitivity.
Unfortunately, we don't live in a world where we can actually ban small talk.
I really wish that we could, but you can absolutely turn it down.
Loop earplugs are a complete godsend to anybody that struggles with noise.
That might be the noise out in a restaurant on a train or even going to sleep at night.
There is a pair of loop earplugs for everybody.
And as listeners of the late bloomer's podcast, you get 20% off.
By going to the link in the show notes or the link in our social media,
biographies, you will be able to access it and enjoy.
Right.
Who says biographies, by the way?
Social media biographies.
Yeah, I mean, I love it.
What's wrong with that?
I just, I've only ever heard it referred to as the bio.
What does a bio stand for?
Probably biography.
What else is it going to stand for?
But nobody says it.
It's on my point.
I'm not saying it's incorrect.
Number 11.
No tech spectations.
Well, listen.
Can I please let me plead my case before you well listen me?
Sure.
A text becomes like an old school way of communicating,
like a letter or a carrier pigeon.
There is no expectation of immediate reply.
You send it like you send your pigeon.
How do the pigeons know where?
to go. I don't know. Like, legit. Oh, is that? No, seriously. How, how can you tell a pigeon
go over to the... Have I made that up? Is that a Game of Thrones thing? And I've like...
No, I... Oh my God, I don't know. I'm assuming it's real. Right, can I, can I, can I give my... I, I don't
disagree. I'm fine with it. But just to remind you, have made telephone calls illegal. So,
So we're coming up to not being contactable in any way.
Oh, that sounds absolutely.
Dreamy, doesn't it?
No, you're right.
So telephone calls are illegal.
I feel like I might have to slightly loosen the reins on zero expectations of texting.
No, I've got it.
I've got it as well.
No, I've actually got it.
All right, go on then.
Right.
Let's see if we're the same.
So basically there's a new system in messaging and meta would do it.
So we'd get it on WhatsApp.
We'd got it on I message.
And basically it's a very quick label.
You write your text and you just label it a quick button and it comes in a colour.
So you can choose red, you can choose amber or you can choose green.
If you read someone, if you send it in red text, like I need a reply as soon as you see this.
If you amber, it's like, buddy, I'd love to hear from.
you this week. If you green text, mate, six months, I'm all good. I'm just texting. So like a
color coded text situation. So I know, do you need me now or can I come back in a few
weeks? Okay. Seems colorful. Can I just give my idea as well? Which is there's no shame for people
chasing up. There's also no shame to go, oh, sorry, I just didn't. That there's no guilt or
Like that I feel like is the problem here is how you feel when you haven't got back to someone you think
friendships over like it just becomes the norm.
Can we have both?
Can we remove shame from texting and also go colour coded?
Done.
Fine.
Number 12.
You are allowed to say you don't like things.
So like an example would be a haircut or...
No, because I know what...
know why you're saying this because you don't like being compelled to lie out of politeness
because of autism.
Yes.
But remember when I had a struggle a couple of years ago with a haircut.
Yeah.
And I was like panicking.
And it wasn't, it wasn't very good.
Like, let's be honest.
But you didn't lie.
You said you hate it.
No, I was like, I really don't like it.
I really don't like it.
I really don't like it.
I look okay.
Like, do I still look pretty?
And I was crying.
And you went, you do.
You look beautiful, Bubby.
if you're gone, now you look like shit.
Like I would have, like it would have really hurt.
I don't know.
But I don't think I said it's the best haircut you've ever had.
No, you didn't.
Like I didn't.
You said you still look beautiful, but I didn't.
Okay.
All right, next.
No, but I don't want to take it away from you.
I don't want to make you lying in our new world order.
I don't.
So I'm just going to carry on doing what I do.
I love for that you do it anyway.
Not even in this imaginary world.
You actually do do half the shit anyway.
Okay.
Number 13.
Lucky for some.
Or is it unlucky for some?
The phrase, last minute plans, is abolished.
And those are just called plans.
And we come up with a new phrase, which is like,
what's the opposite of last minute, last first minute hour?
First hour plans, which are like weeks and months in advance. And that's the weird one. So plans are
today or tomorrow. Coffee later? Sure. Golf later? Sure. Tomorrow, enough where we know how we're feeling.
Are we feeling good? Any other stuff? Any overwhelm. To making a plan is bought into the real world.
Whereas the weird one is the first hour, the people that do first hour plans. Firsthour.com. People booking
ridiculously far in advance.
I think I'm a little bit confused about what this means
because when you started talking, I was like, well,
is that, how is that going to be on my nervous system?
If anyone can just do what they want, a plan's a plan.
But I don't think you're saying the plans aren't allowed.
So what I think I've done that,
I think I've confused it by calling it first hour.
So let me roll that back.
That was just a little ADHD tangent there.
We call it last minute plans.
Yeah.
But last minute plans just become plans.
And then anything that isn't a last minute plan, like a today or tomorrow, becomes like a far in advance plan.
And that's the weird one.
Like, are we making a far and advanced plan here?
I don't know.
But normal people are like, I'm getting married tomorrow.
Do you want to come?
Or cinema tonight, are you up for it?
I'm getting married tomorrow.
Do you want to come?
That's your example.
Maybe.
be that.
I don't know whether you've nailed that example.
I think a lot of people will agree with me.
Don't that.
Don't.
Doesn't that need to be a far and advanced plan?
A wedding?
Yeah, probably that one.
But like cinema, Nando's catch up coffee.
Like, let's bring planning back to the day is happening.
So we can know if we feel up to it or not.
Okay.
14.
No hints.
So no reading between the lines.
Just say it.
If you want it, just tell me.
Yeah, like not, oh, this kitchen's looking a little bit, you know, not its best.
Rocks, stack the dishwasher.
So I try to do this with your wear again shelf,
but then I never can cast you back to the conversation that we had merely yesterday.
I saw it.
We'd spent ages sorting out the whole wardrobe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it had piled up to mess.
And I said, babe, your wear again shelf's a bit messy.
Do you want me to help you do it?
and then we had a whole thing.
So I don't, I like, like the idea of it,
but I'm not sure it'll always work.
No, because you didn't say it in that tone, did you?
I think, I did.
I don't think, you know,
I don't think you did.
Oh, yeah we go.
You were like.
Go on, what did I? How did I say it?
I'll tell you exactly how you said it.
Tell me, because I remember verbatim.
So do I.
So you went where again Shelf's got a bit big,
bubby, hasn't it?
Do you want me to help you with that later?
That's me trying to not be shameful.
Yeah, but your tone, it was like dripping.
Okay, I hear that.
In judgment.
Had you gone, let me know if you want me to help you that later,
would have probably gone better for you.
Fine, go on.
Right.
Oh, this is big.
17.
This, you're on 15.
Oh.
But is 17 big?
Just so we know, yeah.
15.
Wait for 17, guys.
Abolished dress codes.
They're just.
isn't dress codes anywhere.
Going to a posh restaurant, wear your little comfy two-piece.
I mean, to be fair, we make this happen anyway because we just don't go anywhere.
Yeah.
Going to a wedding, wear joggers, black tie or sweatpants.
Like...
Yeah, I've got a bone to pick with your best mate.
Sophie.
Yes.
If Sophie is listening...
She won't be through a 40th birthday party.
And we were obviously invited.
And the dress code was black tie.
We actually had to go to M&F to get you a penguin suit.
And me.
A dress.
I wore like a dress.
And I had to buy a pair of high heel shoes.
I was like, Bambi on ice.
Like abolish it.
Like black tie or black track suit.
I'm never doing that again, by the way.
Someone says this is great time.
be like, do I have to wear this? Yes, I'm not coming then.
Funerals? Are you going to show up in joggers to somebody? You probably would to be for,
haven't you? Can I wear my dinner suit to a funeral? Because otherwise I'll need to buy a black
suit the next time. You wear a dinner suit too? I don't think I can, can I?
If there's a wake and you'll be dining.
Doesn't feel like, anyway, gone.
Number 17. No, it's my, it's me number 16. That's why we usually keep it to 10.
I can't count
PERS
16
Social batteries
Above timers
It says heads
I don't really understand
Why that says heads
Above heads
Stroke timers
Social battery above your head
slash have a timer
So it would be some sort of
Not a timer
Like a
Like a thing
Low high
Yeah
You would have a power bar
that's it.
Like in a video game.
Oh,
and it's attached to like your heart rate and temperature.
It can somehow,
there's some kind of tech that just works.
And it sort of puts up in the head,
5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
So, oh my God, oh my God, babe.
And I just, right, so picture the scene.
I'm sitting here.
Hard red lining on low social battery.
So if someone comes up to me and starts to talk to me,
I can just be like, go away.
And like, they'll see it.
No, you don't even speak.
You just go.
Look at them.
Look at them and you point and they'll be like, sorry.
Oh my God.
This needs to be made.
This needs to be invented.
Yeah, I agree.
I would love it.
Here's a problem.
Tell me what the problem is.
Your social battery is green.
You slept well.
You don't spoken to anyone for a few days.
You've just walked out of the house green.
And then someone you don't like comes up to talk to.
And it immediately goes.
And they see it go red.
We can have a...
Can you imagine?
They were like, oh, okay.
At least you wouldn't have to tell him you don't like them.
No, you've read, you've readline me there, mate.
Right.
I'm waiting for this number 17.
We got told a few ago that this was a big one.
So is it?
Well, I've built it up now.
I would just love it.
Ban all cards.
Debit cards?
No.
Birthday cards.
Birthday cards.
Thank you, cards.
Thinking of you cards.
I do this one anyway.
Mother's, fathers.
All cards are banned because I can't,
going out to the shop to buy a card,
to write it, to remember the address to post it.
That is like one of the hardest things I'd be doing that week.
They're happening all the time.
People have got birthdays all the time.
They're struggling all the time.
Mother's days all the time.
Father's days all the time.
Kids doing things all the time.
Well done.
Because banned.
All cards.
If you're face to face with me, well done, or a sympathy cuddle or a new home celebration.
Yeah, cards are.
I've been doing this for 10 years.
All of my friends and family, no, I don't say in cards.
Mine isn't because I would forget.
That is one of the reasons.
It's also a complete waste of money.
Or maybe it's not ban all cards.
Maybe it's like, you know how with an email you can subscribe and unsubscribe.
You unsubscribe from all cards.
So I don't want to receive cards from anyone about anything.
and I won't be sending them to you.
Oh no, because they had subscribed.
Fan all cards.
Yeah, I agree.
Number 18, don't open presents in front of people.
I'm a big fan of this one.
So you don't have to mask and pretend if you don't like it.
Yeah.
You can privately open it.
Even if you do like it, I don't react the right way.
I'm not like, oh my God, this is everything that I've ever dreamed of.
I'm like, oh, wow, nice.
Yeah, every time I've bought you a present that I've thought,
I thought I smash in the early days.
I don't mess about with that now.
And I thought you would love it and you'd just be flat face.
I had no idea.
I did love it though.
No, I know, but I didn't know about the tism then.
So I was just like, bloody, he's a bit rude.
Yeah, exactly.
So don't have to do it in front of people.
Done.
Like I bought you the best present I think you've ever got ever last year.
My coat.
Oh, my golf buggy.
Your electric golf buggy.
You've always wanted it.
You wouldn't buy it for yourself.
But I've got a different relationship to money than you.
You can't do that anymore.
No, because you're taking care of your own birthday.
Yeah.
Shall I take the golf buggy back then?
No, because it wasn't enforced then, was it?
Number 19.
Friendships are measured on depth of relationship,
not frequency of contact.
So people think best friends,
you're your best friend, you're chatting every day,
bring in every day.
everything. I really, really hate that because I'm my best mates. I might not speak to for six months.
And when we see each other, we're like right back to where we were. And actually, it's how much we
love each other, know each other, respect each other, take the piss out of each other.
My friend Sophie was in Egypt for five years. I think I seen her once. It doesn't matter.
Like that love is still there. And just that expectation of like daily comms. Well, I've banned
band calls and texting so.
I'm, again,
I'm completely with you.
Exactly the same.
I'd look at us on the same page.
Isn't that absolutely lovely?
Right, babe.
Last one.
We've made it to number 20.
The last one,
what rule
are you imposing in our new
neurodivergent world order?
So with communication,
clear is kind.
So my direct
communication
will actually be seen
as an A1 example of how to communicate.
So being a nice person is being direct.
And honest.
Truth, honest, blunt.
And dressing it up.
It's bad.
Sugar-coated linings.
What do you call it?
Polish a turd.
No.
What do you call it?
What's the saying?
Not sugar-coated linings.
Sugar-coating things or silver linens.
Or sugar-coated linings.
You are.
are considered like so rude.
So people pleasers would immediately just be people displeases.
It's a form of manipulation anyway.
All this, oh, let me make me sound it nice.
Well, make me sound it nice.
Well, it's not nice, is it?
So why are you trying to make me feel good about what you're saying?
Some people have had traumatic experiences
that means they struggle to tell the truth because they think they'll be in trouble.
Well, they don't have to worry in this new world order, do they?
Tell the truth, be celebrated.
even if it's tough news.
Exactly.
I can't believe that we've basically agreed on...
Almost.
What a world that would be.
We want to hear your rules.
How could we make this world better if you were in charge of writing social norms?
What would they be?
This has been the late bloomer's podcast.
If you liked it, tell us if you hated it.
Directly, directly.
Tell us why.
Tell us which one you hate.
go into detail.
I think I'm joking.
I think you are.
Anyway, see you next week.
See you next week.
Bye.
