LATE BLOOMERS - THE GREAT DEBATE: 10 ridiculous fights every neurodivergent couple has had

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

From the thermostat wars to the dishwasher showdown, Rich and Rox are going head to head in THE GREAT DEBATE. In this episode of LATE BLOOMERS, they settle (or at least try to) the 10 ridiculous fight...s every neurodivergent couple has had. Expect passionate arguments, zero logic, and a lot of love underneath the chaos. Whether it’s about time blindness, cleaning styles, or who left the light on again, this one’s for every ADHD and autism duo just trying to survive domestic life without a referee. Because underneath the bickering is something universal: the way neurodivergent love can be messy, funny, frustrating, and full of misunderstanding, yet still completely magical. This episode will make you laugh, cringe, and probably text your partner to say, “We’ve had that fight too.” 20% off Loop EarPlugs here: ⁠https://www.loopearplugs.com/pages/lp-adhdlove⁠

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It is the big debate. We are finally using our platform to talk about real important topics. Like how do you actually correctly stack a dishwasher? And at what temperature does the house need to be to justify turning on the heating? Oh my God, I didn't know we were doing heating. Why? That's going to cause, oh, that's going to be a debate. This is Lake Blooms, where we are getting our lives together, apparently.
Starting point is 00:00:24 In a cold room, eventually. I didn't know you're going to drop the heat and that's where we differ. So anyway, I'm dropping everything where we differ. I'll let you lead. This is 10 arguments, every couple, every ADHD couple. I think just all couples, to be honest. It's had, and we're going to get into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah? How many we got? We got 10. Wow. Right. Go on then. Number one. Dish washer wars.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Yeah. Okay. What's the right way to stack? it correctly cutlery up or down oh wow and rinsing rinsing so listen i think we've got i want to put it on the table we come from totally different sides of this political spectrum yeah and we've had to find a way to live and work together throughout i mean polar opposite dishwasher stack as you and I. Yeah, look, some of my views on dishwasher's stacking has been recently shattered, to be honest, because I was always a rinser. I was always rinsing the plates, so they were
Starting point is 00:01:43 sort of quite clean. And then stacking them just to give it that extra, like, you know what I mean, chef kitchen clean. I mean, I don't do that, but I've always, that is the correct way. You rinse, you stack. Yeah, but it's not. The guidance. The manufacturer guidance for the majority of dishwashers would be to not rinse. You obviously have to take any big bits of food off, but you leave all the sources, all the juice, everything. Wow, that's great news for me. Is that modern dishwashers because they've got like sensors?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, they've got sensors. And if they appear cleaner than they are, it might not clean and properly. Okay, so first bombshell, don't rinse. I think we need to get into the difference between you and I and who... wins this particular debate. I'll go first, but arguing for why I think the way I stack the dishwasher is correct. Yeah. So for me, it's not something where I'm looking to score points or show off or do it perfectly. I'm just looking to get it done. For me, done is better than perfect. So I'm just looking to get everything in. I'm also not looking for maximum efficiency
Starting point is 00:02:58 see if there's a big plate on its side on the top and there's a big wash part rather than actually washing it that's gone in, I'd rather wash all of it than have to hand wash to energy can serve for me. And how I stack is just, you just pop it in, you hope for the best. I don't really think it matters how you stack. So I'm kind of arguing for just a very liberal do as you wish stacking technique right I've stayed quiet it's my turn now first and foremost the start of that debate felt quite pointed in attacking about scoring points and showing off because that is not what I'm doing wait let me I let you speak so you you you listen I believe your way of stacking is counterproductive because although you say you want to get
Starting point is 00:03:55 it all in you don't want a hand wash the way that you stack it is less efficient and you'll get less in. So when I stack and everything's perfectly in line, it creates more space. I utilize maximum space. To be honest, we've had situations where you have thought it was full. There's still loads left to go in it. And I've said, let me work. I've deconstructed it, put it all together properly. And I fit more in the dishwasher than you. So it's not about scoring points or showing off. I will do the same if I was in my own company. So nobody saw it. So obviously you said I was personally attacking you. You felt it was when I said I'm not looking to score points. Then you've slightly personally attacked me
Starting point is 00:04:46 with how I choose to do it more free, more flowing, more liberal. You're very strict. You're very conservative. Now, I'm not in this to pretend like I know all the answers. I'm happy to meet in the middle and I'm happy to concede if the other side has a good point. And you are right. There are times and I've sat the dishwasher and I've said the dishwasher's full. You've come in, done a bit of on my white horse. Deconstruction moving around. You've opened up space and that has meant the other dirty washing has been able to go into the dishwasher. rather than sitting in the sink. So there is something in what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:05:28 You will often, when I'm stacking the dishwasher, come over and say, oh, Bubby, don't worry about that. Let me do it. Yes. And it's slightly dawning on me in this moment that you might be doing that to get me out of stacking. Because you hate the way I stack. That is what's happening, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:51 there's another point as well which is worth debating and then I think we should just draw a line under the dishwasher sticker is I will preserve certain items I won't put them in the dishwasher like if it's a new pan or it's non-stick you don't really share that view
Starting point is 00:06:11 is that fair? I have accidentally damaged some like wooden spoons and things. Do you know what? I don't have an ego. This is a debate. I'm happy to give you the dishwasher was. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:06:27 One-nil. Number two, leaving the lights on. Is it essential for the vibes of the room, or is it a waste of money and energy? Wait, what, leaving the lights on when you're not in the room? Yeah. Why would the vibes matter if you're not in the... So I'll go first.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. I don't think this is going to work out very well for me this episode I'm coming into it the best intentions now for me I don't like coming home to a dark house reason being it can feel a bit scary and it doesn't feel very welcoming so if there is a lamp left on in the hallway maybe in the kitchen
Starting point is 00:07:15 when I come home it's just immediately more welcoming When I'm in the house, I don't like to constantly be up and down on my feet. Lights on, lights off, lights on, lights off. I like to have the vibes sort of on. So I'm talking that low-level lighting, energy-saving bulbs, fine. I love energy-saving, but I'm a very vibes-based person. So I like, you know, I like to have my sort of lamps, my warm lighting.
Starting point is 00:07:46 In the bedroom, I like to have the blue light in or the red, depending what's going. going on that night. So, yeah, I'm going to argue that vibes is more important than saving money. Follow-up questions. What if we're going on holiday for a week? Well, I'd say it's even more important to have a light timed that comes on so people think that you're still in the house. I think actually that's the other argument.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's not just vibes. It is actual safety. Okay. So a couple of follow-up questions. I actually agree with keeping a light on, it makes it look like somebody's home, like from a security point of view. And I also agree to your point about not wanting to come home to a dark house. My questions, though, are it's probably fair to say you leave the light on in every room that you go in.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So for those arguments, for example, if you go into your wardrobe makeup room and all of the lights are left on is that for the reasons that you've you've put forward because it doesn't feel like it would be there's another reason for that which is just forgetting about it having a terrible okay so i think we can agree but maybe ADHD comes into play and maybe i'll concede to your points around leaving some lights on if you concede to quite often you need to turn them off and you haven't because you're not. Yeah, so you're in it for the vibes and for the safety. But if I'm just leaving them on because I forgot, because I'm a numpty,
Starting point is 00:09:27 we should probably ever think. Is that me then? Yeah, fine. I think that's one all. Okay. Number three. Toilet paper technique. There's two parts here.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh my God. First of all, there's whether the toilet roll should be, hung coming over the top or coming from underneath. Oh, I don't care about that. And the second part is how much you're using for the different activities. So you don't care about over or under. So I'm just going to tell you, it is over. If you go to a hotel, it's over. If I go to the toilet and someone's hung it under, I take it off and I turn it round. Fine. I'm happy. I don't care. Now, you're very passionate about something. So over to you for your argument. I'm very passionate about the amount of toilet paper that you use.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Whoa. Straight in with a personal attack. Yes. Sear was the same, actually, both of you. Right. Number one, you've never been in the toilet with me. I buy the toilet roll. I know how quickly it gets used.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And you've also explained before. So I will take, say it's the number two. Oh my God. I'll take probably four squares, fold it in half. So it's double-layered. No, I'll do that as many times as I need to until I'm clean. You, like, make a boxing glove of toilet paper on your fist before you roll it round. I wrap it a few times, so no we or other substances is getting on my hands.
Starting point is 00:11:08 But can I just say, in rolling it round, you're covering the back of your hand as well, which is, so you're wasting 50% of the toilet paper that you use is just wasted because it's literally knuckle side. But how do you know I'm not wiping once, wiping twice? Are you? Exactly. You're not flipping your hand over and knuckle wiping. Good, it's toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It costs about a pound. Toilet rails well expensive. I don't feel like that's just the hill to die on. Like I feel like we should be liberal, we should have freedom, We shouldn't have people getting involved in. Listen, let me just make my point, right? So I firmly stick to. I don't mind spending money,
Starting point is 00:11:56 but I don't like wasting money, even if it's pence. Right. And that, to me, is a waste of money. I'm going to call you out. You can say, I want this toilet roll, which is the most expensive toilet roll in the world. If you want that, cool, just don't waste it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 What happens when the toilet roll run? out. I, I will eat the whole animal. So I will use the cardboard tube to dry up a wee. Yeah, you should. Maximum efficiency. So I don't think you can levy it at me that I'm wasting because I use every single piece, including the cardboard role. Right. Well, that's disturbing. But bearing in Minds you've wasted 50% of the toilet roll on the actual roll. I've balanced it out. I don't think you have with one wipe with a cardboard chew.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So are you telling me you count one, two, three, four and fold it out. Four sheets of toilet roll, right, is not very thick. I think you'll still be feeling urine and... When it's folded over, it's fine. I don't know. And then when I've wiped, I'll fold that in half and use it. No, no. That's...
Starting point is 00:13:10 Are you joking? No. That's disgusting. It's not. Max, who's won the toilet roll? Because we're really at odds here. That's a rich win. Come on, we ain't got time to debate this long, each one.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Fine. 2.1. Impulse purchases, little treats to keep us happy through life or a waste of money. Well, I mean, I feel like that's loaded because you say little treats. Little treats are fine. I don't think my idea of a little treat and your idea of a little treat is the same thing.
Starting point is 00:13:51 A new mascara. Little treats. Fine. But you wouldn't buy a new mascara. You would do a £300 hole from Colt Beauty and a mascara would be included in that. You'll get free items. Listen, listen, I'm not going to get into the specifics
Starting point is 00:14:08 of what I, an adult, choose to spend my monthly money on. Well, fine then. Because I don't have credit cards and I don't overspend. I have my monthly money and I live within that. I live within my means. If you live within your means, I am then fine. So I'm going to argue that an impulse purchase, we only live once.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Only live once on this planet and it goes by very quick. We're in our 40s and oh my good. Lord. That's crazy to think about. So a little impulse purchase, a new hoodie or a new face cream or a candle. It's like, let's just have a spark of joy in that day. I'm not talking about like impulse purchasing a car or a bag. I'm not talking about putting yourself in debt or putting things on credit cards. No. Financially responsible impulse purchase. Okay, my only argument to that, because I think it's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 My only argument to it is impulse purchase fine, but if it's pure impulsivity and it's not thought through whether you actually want this item or not, it could be a waste of money. My argument being that you would have bought things in the past impulsively, they would have arrived, you'd have opened them, and you'd have never used it, worn it. It's just in a cupboard and you'll forget that it exists. Okay, so I'm sort of happy to meet in the middle here Maybe it's not impulse purchases
Starting point is 00:15:44 But it's like little treats that you've thought about That you can afford that you do deserve And you will use And you will use Fine, done I'm happy with that, yeah Talking about little treats for yourself That you will use
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Starting point is 00:17:38 rule. Are mismatched socks okay? Are holy socks okay? When to keep and when to throw away? Holy, as it holy, as in stocks with holes in, not holy sucks, not like spiritual. Yeah, okay, fine. Actually, with me, you wouldn't know. Yeah, it wouldn't put it past you. My Jesus sucks, 50 pounds, my impulse purchase. Listen, this can be a quick one. Okay. I think. Go on. I, there is no world where I would ever. mix up socks or wear socks with holes in it. It's horrible. It freaks me out. The feel and the thought of it and the fact that it's not correct would do me in. But I'm not going to say my way is right because for somebody else, if you want to wear mismatched socks and socks with holes in it,
Starting point is 00:18:28 then call each to their own. I've got no strong opinion about what others do. That's personal preference, I think. So, you recently had a hole in your sock. Yes. And you weren't very happy about it because it did. No, because I didn't know that there was a hole in my sock when I put them on. I bought you a little treat. You could call it an impulse purchase of some special sensory socks.
Starting point is 00:18:51 They were lovely. And they're lovely, right there. I'm just, you know, just going back to the other point. So mismatched, I mean, I don't wear mismatched nowadays. That's because you bought the same pair of socks, 400. times. I bought 20 pairs of the same sock, flying pig socks, which meant no sock matching for a couple of years, but a lot of them have got holes in. Ah. And I held on for quite a long time. Wait a minute, though. The reason that you don't wear mismatched socks is because I do all the
Starting point is 00:19:21 washing and I pair all your socks and put them away for you. Is that, that's fair to say? That's fair to say. So do you think you, I think you would be a mismatched socks. Before you, I was a mismatch, and I used to sort of act like it was fashion, like I'm rebelling in my sockwear. Realistically, I just didn't have the executive function. I think it's fine, though. I think it can be a look. Wow, you think it can be a look. Why not?
Starting point is 00:19:45 And then holy sucks, you can't stand it. I don't like it, but I get attached to socks. So I will often have, like, you keep them. Well, like, you know my flying pig sucks, they had holes in for a long time. And I kept them except. Number one, I couldn't bear to throw them away because I get emotionally attached to inanimate objects. And number two, it means throwing them away, organising that and then buying new so it's like tasks. But yeah, again, I wouldn't be saying that was right or wrong. So I feel like we're kind of...
Starting point is 00:20:20 That's the same as you saying you like nice fresh bed sheets. Yeah. But you don't really like changing them. So I think you can still confidently say you don't like. Holy sucks. No. So we're in agreement then. Okay, done.
Starting point is 00:20:33 When they got holes in, throw them out. You deserve sucks. Oh dear. Is this the heating one? No. That's last. Number six. Butter technique.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Oh, no. Should butter go in the fridge or be left out? Should butter be sliced from the top or cut in chunks? What about crumbs in the butter? Slice from the top. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Oh, my God. Oh, I'm going to want to go to. No, I need to add one as well, Mrs. Crumb Butter. I literally have also put what about crumbs in the butter. So do you want to start us off here with... So I will struggle to debate this because I am objectively correct, I believe. I will tell you the, not my way, the way to use butter. Number one is you don't put it in the fridge.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That's ridiculous. Yes, unless you're in a climate where it would physically just be a pool, then you're going to have to put it in the fridge and take it out before using it. That would be a nightmare. Can I just say, we're obviously walking into an area where we really disagree. I just want to point out, because it's very important to find common ground, I agree. Butter, real butter, left outside the fridge in a butter dish. It's easier to access, and it's actually easy.
Starting point is 00:21:59 easier to spread. So, you know, I know we're going to go separate ways, but let's just appreciate we have got some common ground. Fine. So in a butter dish, you then, the way you use the butter is you get a knife, a clean knife, and you just run it along the top as evenly as you can. No hacking into it.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Like the only way that is acceptable to, cut the butter as if you need to use it for cooking and then you would cut it from one end as straight as perfectly so you're just reducing the size of the butter and not taking a corner off or whatever so it keeps its geometrical shape what would that be called the like a oblong like not a cube but the long oblong cube you know what I mean it's called an obloob Is it actually? Oh. So you keep that. And babe, I can't. So the crumbs are a big one for me. So say you're spreading butter on three pieces of toast. You need to spread the first one. And then you need to have a bit of kitchen roll with you. Well, in this process, you need to wipe the knife and then go again. You can't lick the knife because then you're putting saliva in the butter. You can't just rub it on the edge of the toast because you won't you won't get all of it and you will you'll end up with crumbs in the butter and you can't tell me even though you may disagree with my beliefs you
Starting point is 00:23:36 cannot tell me that crumbs in butter is an okay thing for you I can wow because I really really don't mind so two things to address there first of all you have to cut like this thin slice on the top you cannot cut a corner it's not a slice from the top it's a scrape Fine. I think anyone can cut the butter however they want. A bit off the corner, a bit off the side, a bit off the top. I don't think it's that deep. I don't think it's worth getting on a high horse about. Just let people have freedom in how they choose to cut the butter. And I feel strongly about that. We don't want butter shaming. Not everybody wants it in a perfect oblong. You just want a bit of butter. Like you're there. to get a bit of flavour for your toast not to make some art project. I've got a solution then. We have our own butter.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Listen, I'm actually... We've got two batter dishes because I little treated myself. But you have to promise me that I won't use your butter. And the other thing is crumbs in the batter. If I'm buttering toast, I'm not wiping or washing or getting another knife,
Starting point is 00:24:53 that's just too much work. it's okay, a bit of crumbs, wipe it up, but it's just okay. I don't know, I don't think we're going to agree. No. So I think what we can do, we can agree to live together with different beliefs and we'll have different butter dishes. Fine, done. What happens if you're buttering my riveita though?
Starting point is 00:25:17 What butter do you use? Mine. Whatever you're, whoever's using it. Okay, so it's my butter to use. You're allowed to consume it as long as I, I'm the one, yeah, okay, fine. I'm happy with that. So you can have your oblong.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That's that. Number seven. Calendar commitments. Do you put everything into your calendar, or do you rely on vibes and memory? Everything has to go in the calendar. Otherwise things get, I think even through this debate,
Starting point is 00:25:46 you're going to end up agreeing with me here. Everything should. There's no shame, because I know that it can be difficult to manage, but everything should, otherwise things will get double booked. Yep. It's as simple as that, really.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So this is quite a simple one. I am going to argue my point because it's the great debate, but know that I'm arguing it with a deep sense of being on the losing team here. Okay. So I don't remember to put everything in my calendar. That renders my calendar useless because the minute you forget one thing, any day could be wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So therefore, I can't use it because it's unreliable. Therefore, I rely on saying no to things so I don't have to remember them or being so anxious and thinking about them so much that I don't forget. So if I've got a doctor's appointment, I'll ruminate on that date. If it's somebody's birthday, I'll think about it. If I've got a rehearsal date, I commit it to memory. I've got a terrible memory, but I'll commit it to memory and think about it. So I don't forget.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It doesn't work. I often do forget. I do get texts. Where are you and I'm not there? I double book stuff. Can I just stop you? Yeah. Is this your argument for not using the calendar?
Starting point is 00:27:09 Because I feel like... I said within my soul, I knew I was... Okay, so... I'm going to... That's yours. Everything should go in the calendar. But no shame to people that... Because I know that it's difficult.
Starting point is 00:27:23 but that's what we're aiming for. What would help? What would help? I don't even know. Okay. Number eight. I think you're winning. Is it like...
Starting point is 00:27:37 Probably. Yeah. Carrey, come on. Bedtime routine. Do you like to go to sleep with noise or no noise? And is it appropriate to use your phone in bed while falling asleep? Well, listen, I can debate my views on this, but I don't practice it because it's not good to use your phone just before bed, but I do. The blue light, like, it's like, I think it's science to say that it's a bad idea to use your phone just before bed, but I do.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I can't go to sleep unless the TV's on, or I can't feel tired enough. Sorry, the TV has to be on for me to then relax into feeling tired enough to switch it off, turn over and go sleep. No lights though for me. Like, you've been falling asleep. It's your job to turn the little side lights off, isn't it? And the last few nights you've fallen asleep with them on. And I've woken you up in the middle of the night to turn the lights off. Yeah, so I feel, again, some common ground.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I'm happy to fall asleep with the TV on. in fact I quite like having noise if I'm in a room that's silent I would sometimes put earphones in like if I'm away and there's no TV I'll listen to a podcast it just helps with feeling less alone and less anxious in terms of the phone
Starting point is 00:29:06 you know yes we know it's not good whatever my bedtime phone routine is just turning down my screen brightness bit by bit until I'm tired probably not good for you but I don't think either of us feel that strongly
Starting point is 00:29:22 I never used to be able to sleep without being drunk or sleeping pills so I'm very much like if you can sleep with the TV on your phone doesn't matter sleep's important do what you need to do basically number nine
Starting point is 00:29:37 washing clothes when do you know when to wash an item of clothing is it after you've worn it once or is it when it when it starts to smell and where do you put the clothes when they're in between clean and dirty? So we have different routines here. Yep, we do. I don't wash clothes every time I wear them, but I will wear them constantly until I wash them. So I will have no wear again
Starting point is 00:30:08 space. Well, if that goes on the back of the bed tonight to be worn tomorrow, that is a wear again Yeah, but I'll actually wear it again. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, I know. There's a personal attack. No, but I'm just saying that your wear again potentially is, I guess let's rename it. I maybe don't think it's a wear again. I think it's a not yet to be washed pile because you don't often wear it again.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Sometimes dirty clothes go in there as well, babe. I'm not going to. I'll sometimes dip in and out. So look, what you're saying, is you have to wear the same outfit over and over till it's dirty. I think you could be in the minority here. I don't think many people wear the same clothes every day. Like if someone was going to work, they wouldn't wear the same shirt and trousers the next day.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Work was different. The shirt needed to be washed every time I wore it. You couldn't wear a shirt twice because like all day you'd be sweating. You'd be moving around. I'm talking about lounging around at home and stuff. Like I would wear the same joggers and T-shirt. Yeah, okay. Okay, that's slightly different. And then how do you know when to wash clothes? Maybe it's not based on the clothes stench. It's based on maybe when I...
Starting point is 00:31:30 So if I have a shower, that's when all my clothes would go in the day washing, because I'm not putting them back on. Well, that's interesting. You base it on your cleanliness. Yeah. So for me, it's purely based on the clothes. It's the sniff test. Can I smell B-O? You sniff the crutch. Yeah. Sniff the socks. Sometimes I have to do it to know wherever I've worn it. Sox is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Like, sorry. Just, just wash the socks. No, no, I know. I don't know why I leave sucks out thinking. Or underwear. Or pants. Like you've got poo particles on pants. Here's where it's complicated.
Starting point is 00:32:06 This happened to me the other day and it mess with my mind. We went to the gym. And before we went to the gym, it was in the morning. I put on a pair of pants and a pair of socks and they were brand new. Me too. We were only in the gym for half an hour and they were fresh.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I came back and got in the bath and I got out of the bath and I was like, I don't think it's logical to put on new socks and pants. They've only been on half an hour. I put them, exactly the same thing happened to me.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Half an hour of where. See, that just feels... It was half an hour of exercise, squatting with a sweaty crack. Like, you're not... Don't put them back on. on, babe. Well, I did put them back on, so.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Because they didn't smell at all. And I would be like, are they dirty? Not at all. In fact, they smell really clean. So why would I... Okay. No shame. I just couldn't.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's like when I go swimming, I would have to take a change of socks. Even if it's like, it's the first thing I've did. I've put socks on. I've gone to swim. I couldn't put the same socks back on. But I think it's because I've got really sweaty feet. You have really sweaty feet.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So who's won that one? I think we're both. okay with that. I think it's okay. I like this that actually we're not trying to force our views on someone else. We're just allowing each other to vibe. That being said, I am onto the final one. Oh my God. I know what this is. The thermostat tussle. Yeah. Should we be living in the Arctic cold? Right. That's attacking already. Or should it be lovely and toasty and warm? I didn't write the questions. You did though. Put a jumper on. So put a hoodie on, put a nice, cozy hoodie on. And then if you get cold there, then the heating goes on. I don't think I should have to be wearing
Starting point is 00:33:59 double layers in my own home just to not be freezing. If I'm shivering in a t-shirt, I think it is perfectly okay to say, babe, could we please put the heating on? The only, and this is more of an ask rather than a like you're wrong I'm right type thing the only thing is is that I run really hot I know that no no so hear me out so if you have a nice fluffy warm cozy hoodie on the temperature of the room is probably of that's me in a t-shirt to be comfortable so the problem that we've got is if you want to be warm in a t-shirt, I'm sweating and uncomfortable and don't know what to do with myself. So I feel like this is a body temperature thing. Listen, that is so real and I don't want you to be uncomfortable. I will very often in the living room be under a blanket
Starting point is 00:35:00 so that we can figure that out. I don't really think I'm talking about that. I'm not like are you going to be sweating and so hot and I just want to feel like I'm on a beach. I'm talking about when it starts to go into the winter months as it has recently and I'm walking on the tiles and my tutsies are freezing and my hands are cold I might even be in a hoodie and I'm like oh bubby it's got a bit of a chill down here and you're like no it's fine and correct me if I'm wrong there is a slight thought about the money of turning heating on
Starting point is 00:35:32 it's just trying to hold on I think rather than like when it's neat like I said to you the other day it feels quite nice with heating on because it's that different type of heat that's vibe and art official with it cold outside and it just feels nice. I get that. I just don't like doing it too early. I don't like pulling the trigger too early. No, I agree with you. But I don't think anybody should be either too cold or too hot in their own house. There's a middle ground and potentially as we do get into the winter mumps, just popping it on a little
Starting point is 00:36:09 18, 19, 20. So fine. But my thing would be, you know, if you're too cold and you've got socks and a hoodie on, then we put it on. And a coat and a blanket. No, no, no, no. I'm happy to stop at a hoodie or jumper.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. But like, if you're coming down in short shorts and a vest, then maybe there's, yeah. But we have gone for cosy and warm. Yeah, fine. Lovely. This has been the great debate. We hope that you've learnt something.
Starting point is 00:36:48 We hope you've seen how we've debated with mutual respect, even though we come from very different sides of the spectrum. Let us know in the comments which side you fall on. And if you have enjoyed it, give us a like. Subscribe, follow. All of that fun. Shout out wherever you are. Thank you for watching Late Bloomers, and we will see you next week.

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