Lateral with Tom Scott - 177: Bride then groom

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Helena Kirk, Dan Faulkner and Michael Dearsley from 'Hey, I Loved that Movie!' face questions about movie materials, bumper balloons and lacklustre locations. LATERAL is a comedy panel game podcast about weird questions with wonderful answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit https://lateralcast.com. HOST: Tom Scott. QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe. EDITED BY: Julie Hassett at The Podcast Studios, Dublin. MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of Epidemic Sound). ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS: Emily Hiatt, trizgo, Bee, Trevor Cashmore, Brett Curtis, Paulo Mateus. FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott. © Pad 26 Limited (https://www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Plot holes, suspiciously convenient coincidences, last-minute rescues, confusing endings. I have a feeling they're going to fit right in on this podcast. First of all, please welcome, Dan Faulkner. Hello. Welcome to Latterl. Tell us about the podcast. So, the podcast premise is essentially, think of a movie that you loved as a child.

Like, you watched it all the time. It might have been one of, like, four VHS tapes you had. You watched it religiously, and you've not seen it in like 10, 20 years. Does it hold up, or is it just the nostalgia of it? Normally, it's just the nostalgia. Normally, it's just the nostalgia. Yeah, normally, they're not good.

But, you know, it's harder to talk about a good movie most of the time. Well, let's also introduce the second member of the panel today. Also, from Howell of That Movie, Helena Kirk. Welcome to the show. Hi, thank you for having me. What movies have you been looking at lately, then? So, yeah, I think we'll have just started or just finished our Oscar season. Sorry, the boys are looking at me blankly, but I think we discussed that. But yeah, last, we've just done some, we've just had some great guests on.

So recently for us, we had AJ from the cult poppture podcast. And yeah, we're just gearing up to watch some more bad films. So I am going to ask, you mentioned the boys. I'm going to ask the other boy, the third member of the trio, Michael Diersley, welcome to Lateral, what is the bad movie? Like, what's the one that you really, really, regret watching for this podcast. So, yeah, no, so thank you so much for having us.

Yeah, no, anyone that has listened to the podcast at any point will know it is Southland Tales. I've not heard of that. No one has. No many people have, and I don't, you know how people go, oh, the film's so bad, you have to go see it. Don't. It's really not worth it. It's one of the first films that The Rock is known as Dwayne Johnson, like he's credited as Dwayne Johnson. and he doesn't talk about it, which shows you how bad it is.

Oh, okay, right. Yeah. It is shockingly long. Nothing really happens. And the worst part is on our podcast, that was the first episode we had a guest. Oh, no. We were trying to work out how mean we could be about the film. Did the guests love that movie even now?

He loved it so much. It was painful. Well, very best of luck. I hope you're not going to have that reaction to any of our questions today. Before we fade to black, or before we greenlight any unnecessary sequels, let's roll the opening titles for Question 1. Thank you to Brett Curtis for this question. The Yamaha DX-7 was one of the most popular synthesizers of the 1980s. The musician and producer Trent Reznor is regarded as being partly responsible

for the surprisingly high prices today of this instrument. Why? I'll give you that one more time. The Yamaha DX7 was one of the most popular synthesizers of the 1980s. The musician and producer Trent Reznor is regarded as being partly responsible for the surprisingly high prices today of this instrument. Why? Michael, you're the music guy. Yeah.

Okay. Who, who, who, I know the name Trent Rezner and I know he's in a popular band. Nine inch names. I can't remember which one. Is it nine-inch nails? Yeah. I couldn't work out. I remember it if it was like one of the members of Slipknot or that sort of thing.

They've got that kind of name, you know. I'm not sure. Is he part of Nine Inch Nails or is he Nine Inch Nails? I'm not sure if it's one of those things where the band is the guy and whoever he happens to be working with. I think it's entirely him and sometimes another guy. Okay, okay. So he is nine-inch Nails. And clearly nominated the wrong person.

Yeah. I mean, most recently known for doing the soundtrack to the new Tron movie, I think, on Tron Ares is a Nage Del soundtrack. Is it? That's cool. So he's responsible for it being so expensive? Partly, yeah. He's partly responsible. I'm trying to work out, remember, and try and work out what kind of synthesizer it is.

Like what kind of thing it is. Because if it's, I'm thinking, did he break a lot of them? Because I know certain synthesizers. and certain tech like that, there's very few of them. They don't produce... Some of them are rarer and they don't produce them forever. I'm just wondering if he just kept breaking them. And since they stopped being produced, they've gone up in price.

Yeah, I was thinking, are they expensive because he's bought all of them? Yeah, I was thinking, had he bought, like, 10 of them because he's the one guy on stage and he's got 10, he's got a run around to all of them. There's so many of them. I'm glad we're all in the same place, so that there's very few. few of them left, and I, from Tom's reaction, I feel like that's completely wrong. More or less right. Yes. They were very popular. They often brought them in with the band to use them on stage. The equipment was regularly destroyed and discarded. You are right about that,

Michael. I'm going to ask why that might be. Oh, is it like a fashion thing where people turning them into, because I know that I have a pet hate where people take pinball machines and turn them into coffee tables. Is it a similar kind of thing where... That was a perfectly good pinball machine you've just ruined. Horrifying. Trent Reson does not have a collection of gutted DX-7s that have been turned into something else, alas. Okay. Is it the way he uses them on stage, or is it after he uses them that they're destroyed? He doesn't want you to get his finger-pressed. so he smashes it. He's really weirdly, he's weirdly careful.

I want to give you that one, Michael. That is, the exact phrase I have here is that the equipment was regularly destroyed and discarded due to the nature of their energetic performances. Yeah, that's what I was, that's what I was thinking. I was like, if he was in, which is why I thought Slipknot. Because I was like, if he's in Slipknot, I know they're a very, like, I know they're a very aggressive band on stage. I assume it is the same with nine-inch nails and they just kick.

it just gets destroyed. Yeah, this is not Joe Strummer deliberately destroying his guitar at the end of the performance. This is just, I mean, there is a YouTube video titled, nearly three minutes of Trent Resner assaulting keyboards at Woodstock 94. That's great. This is a thing. I know a couple of musicians, they will break equipment to get the right noise out of it. It could be the most expensive equipment on the planet.

They're like, yeah, but I need it to make this specific noise. And to do that, I'm going to need to pay to get it. fixed after. So sometimes when 9 Inch Nails is on tour, what do the producers have to do? Buy up all the local. Buy loads of them. Yeah. That's quite difficult.

There aren't many left. Do they have to go around to collect them? Do they have to go around to the collectors that own them and buy them or they have to make public appeals to ask, does anyone have a DX7 and would anyone like Trent Resner to play it? It's a risk. but it will have been played by Trent Reznor. People that own them will jump at that.

They've never had a shortage, I can tell you that. Each of our guests has brought a question along with them. We're going to start with Michael whenever you're ready. Okay. This question has been sent in by B. Branches of Card Factory in England sell balloons in the shapes of numbers. In August, there is a spike in the sales for one of these balloons. which one and why? Branches of Card Factory in England

sell balloons in the shapes of numbers. In August there is a spike in sales for one of these balloons, which one and why? I mean, before you mentioned the August thing, I was thinking was it, you know, people thinking that they've got it wrong, but they can just turn the nine upside down and then it's a six.

But not quite... So it's kind of just after Chris... Are these like people born from Christmas or something like that because I'm just doing the months backwards thing and there's a spike, but there's just a spike in birthdays, not a spike in one particular number. First birthdays? Yeah, you don't put, you don't put a day, month, year up as balloons for...

No, fourth days. Although there is a fascinating thing that kids born in August or... No, kids born in September, I think are more likely to be successful footballers and successful at various things than kids born in August. Yeah. Because the UK school year starts in September. So you have the youngest and oldest in their class.

Like you were either just five or you've been five for a year. And that makes a big difference. Yeah, especially at that early age. My niece is actually a, she's a 31st of August baby. Yeah. And now she started school. It's like which class, do they let her go into the class that she's technically eligible for by one day,

or put her one whole year ahead. Which means she's the smallest in there. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not going to be balloons. You don't want to celebrate. Sorry, I just got distracted by statistics facts there, which is a thing I do. Yeah, because it's the 8th month, but like you say, you don't put the number of the balloon.

You don't put, like, August in the balloons. So what happens in August? Yeah. And it's the UK, isn't it? It's not the UK. It's specifically England. This doesn't have. happen elsewhere in the UK.

It just happens in England. Huh. That feels like it's a really big clue, and I got numbers. Just go on. So what's special about August? People go on holiday, but they don't take balloons with them. Really excited about those holidays. Yeah.

Why do people buy balloons? It's birthday parties. Yeah, especially numbered balloons. But is there, is there like a number celebration that happens in August that none of us know about. I mean, in that case, it's probably a sports question. If us three don't know anything about it, my guess is it's some sports question.

Is there a sport thing that happens in August that people need like the number four to cheer on their team? Yeah, like World Cup, Euros, that sort of stuff tends to happen in August. Yeah. It's not just numbers in general. It's one specific number. We're telling us which number give it away?

Um, maybe. Okay, well, don't tell us then. Okay, well, we've got ten guesses. He's going to pop a balloon for each one that we get in. I bought them here. Is someone going in and just buying a lot of these numbers? Yeah. Or a lot of people all going in and buying one of these numbers.

So it's very specific people going in buying a lot of the same number. Is it international one, not international, but well, because it's England, don't it, is it like official one-one-one day or something, I don't know, like when we celebrate launching one-one-one? More of like an institution, like

a, yeah, like an institution buying these, this number. Okay. Oh, it's for a company. It's going to be for like a sale thing or something, then maybe. So what companies are a number three? The phone company? Oh, it's the emergency services

advertising 999 in August. for some reason. Yeah. Because of fires. Because they're going to burn on the barbecue. It's teletext advertising 888 subtitles. That's a job that won't land for nearly everyone. I think I accessed teletext once by mistake as a child and we're very confused.

Institution makes me think the royal family. Or like some celebration of the royals. So it's not a company. It's not a company. it's, but it's not royal, but it's, yeah, it's governmental. Okay. I can give you the institution. The thing is, if I give you any specific things now, you'll just get it immediately.

It's going to be like a government department or something like that, but the tax year doesn't end in August. I'm just trying to think of things. It's not bleak like the, you know, when women's pay equal pay. It's a really good thing. Okay, it's a good thing. It's a really, really good thing. It's like it's a celebratory thing. Especially for balloons.

The balloons make more sense than it being like, yay, if we've reached equal payday for women. And it's not royal, so it's not like King's official birthday or... And why would they have one number specifically? Well, I suppose, for the age of the... More zeros. Okay, but if it's all zeros, that could be like an O or a... Like, they could be using it for something other than the number.

Is it just crowd instructions to go, ooh? So it is a public or private institution. Okay. Like a school? Yeah, yeah, it's schools. But August is summer holidays, isn't it? Yeah, unless they're preparing for September. I think early August.

Like early to mid-August. What happens in schools big celebratory event? They'll get their results for the GCSEs and everything, weren't they, in the schools? Because it's 1 to 10 now. No, but 1 is bad. Oh, it is. It's nine. It's to celebrate nine results. Correct.

It is the number nine to celebrate top grades at GCSE Results Day. See, we're old enough for it. It was ABCD for us. Yeah. A, B, C, D, E. And then I think we had U just as ungraded. Yes, I got A-U in my Chinese oral exam. Oh. Not that I've held on. to that at all.

So the GCSEATs results are graded you through nine in England. Oh, they kept you. They kept you. Yeah. For the trauma. Oh, yeah.

It's better than giving someone a zero. Yeah, it feels better. But yeah, the, so schools would buy all of the number nine. School and like happy parents, I guess, would buy the number nine because it's the highest grade. And I guess, yeah, they just wanted people to be really happy and take photos with the nine if they get it.

That makes sense. Yeah, I've definitely seen, because even schools are on social media these days, which is wild. But I think even back in our day, it was, I remember like people would pose with their certificates for like the local newspaper. And it would be like, you know, John John Johnston's got six A stars and is, you know, top of the class or whatever. Yeah, do you think they used to buy, like, balloons that said four and they just tacked a bit on to make it an A for the best? Thank you to Paolo Mateus for this question. In 2022, the TV Channel, TV2, installed 10 benches around Denmark.

The seat is about 1.4 metres or 5 feet high. Each bench has a brass plaque. What message does this get across? I'll say that again. In 2022, the TV Channel TV. installed 10 benches around Denmark. The seat is about 1.4 metres 5 feet high. Each bench has a brass plaque.

What message does this get across? Sorry, are you saying that it's on stilts? It's like five foot in the air? Basically, yeah. I'm assuming TV2 is based in Denmark as well and it wasn't a terrible excuse for a getaway. I assume that. So I'm going to assume that's a Danish TV channel.

Yeah. I assume something like their version of the BBC kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a message. So they want it to be, it's not, it's not going to be like a prank. Why would you, why would you have tall chairs? What can tall chairs represent?

I mean, it's Scandinavia, right? Aren't they all like really tall? Not at all. That's it. I mean, not to sit up on a five foot stool, but they can at least lean not. on it. They finally want the size appropriate chairs. Or maybe it's, is it, is it, is it to, is not to be sat on, surely? I'm thinking, is the other brass plaques like to do with possibly, like, specific TV shows,

maybe. Like, if it's, if there's 10 of them, maybe they're like, oh, these are the top 10 things that were watched from us that people sat on the sofa for. Are they all equally equally tall? Yes. Yes, okay. And they're in different locations as well. They're not just in like one small concentrated place.

Yeah, around Denmark. Is it, so is it like an art statement or is it like a, because that's or is it like an actual, like Dan said, like these are the shows people watched kind of thing. Is it like a statistical thing or is it like a, do you reckon it would be like an art statement? Is it a celebration? or is it a commemorative? Yeah.

Is there some wordplay here and by it around Denmark? Is it literally around the edge? Or just random places? So is it something to do with like... It's not that flat. You can't see one bench to the other bench just because it's five foot in the air.

No, that's the Netherlands if you want that. Yeah. Yeah. What year was this sorry? Was that in the question? 2020. two. Oh, okay. So, okay. Not one thinking of them, which was, it was like, TV signal antennae to help her. I was going to say, is this on purpose? But it sounds like it's on purpose. It'd be really hard to do it by accident.

Like, surely once you've made the benches, even if they got the length wrong, you wouldn't install them with five foot long legs. You could just saw the length of course. Yeah, that's an easy fix. So it's obviously on purpose. I like the idea of an engineer and like a producer going, we've built a, now. They've got to go out. So we grew up in seaside towns in England and seaside towns absolutely love a commemorative bench to the point where Broadstairs coastline is basically a graveyard.

You're not wrong. I've just never heard it described like that. You're right, there's just a lot of benches with someone's name on them in Memorial. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's little room for anything else. else. Yeah. Is it to do with like a dead TV show, is that what you're saying? But why would they make them five foot high? Yeah, it's the size that's weird.

I think, Helena, you've hit on something there with Denmark's coastline. It's not literally around the coastline, but that is important. Oh, okay. Because you've now said the thing about the sea, I think that my other idea probably isn't true, so I'll say it anyway on the off chance. But I was thinking maybe it's kind of like a, like a message or a PSA about like be kind to short people or people, maybe people with dwarfism. Like, you can't, just because you can reach someone doesn't mean other people.

And as, okay, as I'm saying that out loud, that should never have been my like main guess. Oh, but always say this out loud because you have surprisingly hit on a couple of things there. PSA, public service announcement? Yeah, and earlier on you said art. I think that's part of it as well. My thought of a message would be like the whole like seat at the table metaphor was like where my brain went straight away. But like it's a bit vague. But it's kind of vague that like a TV show would do.

They're kind of like we're doing this art statement. And it's just this vague comment on society. Oh, not vague at all. Specific. It's very specific. Oh, okay. I was going to say it started something elaborate and then they get cut and the budget's cut until it's just a bench on. Stiltz.

I mean, yeah, you've got the picture right in your head. It's a bench on stilts. Public service announcement or art project will be good. And we talked about coastline. Oh, is it raising sea levels? Yes. Yes, it is. Oh, amazing.

Keep talking. What are you see in your head? So I guess the idea is that that is like in X amount of years, this is where the sea level will be kind of thing. Yes. This is the possible sea level rise by 2,100, according to UN estimates. This is TV2 who put out, as an art as a public service announcement, benches, where your feet will no longer get wet in a few decades' time.

Halna, we will get your question now, please. Okay, this question has been sent in by Trithgow. Next to a wheel, a small compass is embedded in a table, even though it will probably never move. Why is it there? Next to a wheel, a small compass is embedded in a table even though it will probably never move. Why is it there?

Terrible accident. Sometimes these questions have so many things to go on that you can't track them, and sometimes it's just a wheel and a compass in a table. Yeah, it's a carpentry accident. Wait, no, it's a wheel and a compass in a table, right? The wheel is not in the table. to a wheel.

A small compass is embedded in a table, even though it will probably never move. When we say wheel, there's like car wheel, but there's also like ship wheel. There's like steering wheel. There's lots of different types. You can name more if you want. There's tractor tires.

It's time for name that wheel. It's time to spin the wheel of wheels. It's landed on the BBC TV show. The wheel. Is it the wheel? It is. Ten points. I can confirm it is a wheel.

We add that. Okay, add that to the information we know. There's less kinds of compass as far as I'm aware. I would say of the two things to try and hone in on, that's better. Those are the two. Because you have the compass that points directions and you have the kind of pair of compasses that you draw circles. Yes. Why would you embed?

The thing is, why would you embed that into the table? Maybe the wheel you made was so perfectly round, you were just like, yes, bye. I'll never have to do that again. I've done it. I'm never going to draw another circle. I've reached circular perfection. Perfect. You said it'd almost never move, right? The compass. The compass will almost never move.

Which I think gives away which compass we're talking about here. It's not a draw circles one. Oh, is it, by any chance, at one of the magnetic poles? No, not necessarily. Because I was thinking otherwise it would consist, obviously, if it's directly on the pole in theory, it will constantly be aiming the same way? No, it will, the opposite.

It will just be kind of loose. Yeah, would it be wiggling? Ah, okay, yeah. Yeah, there's just no great magnetic thing for it to point at. I think that's how a compass behaves at the poles. I think it just kind of floats. Oh, yeah, let's do magnet chat. Cool.

get into magnets okay so that means the table is big and solid the table is not being moved round and it means it can't be on board a ship or something like that because it would move it would be doing what it's meant to do it will probably never move unless it's a ship that used to

move like is it on display somewhere and it's an old ship that's what I was thinking is it like a ship that was made and never went sailing Like it never got put out to sea. Titanic 2. That was my thinking. Because they learned.

They're like, we can't risk it with this one. No, nothing, not a boat. Not a ship. Oh, okay. So it's not, because my next thought was maybe a shipwreck that, you know, it will be there. You know, but no, not a ship. Okay. You just want to get onto the Titanic, don't you?

Yeah. I hear it's a company in the US that's good for that. It goes surprisingly well, I hear. Wheel. We're all thinking steering wheel or something that's vertical. I would like to suggest a horizontal wheel, something like a roulette wheel or something heavy that's also in the table that's like a thing that spins in that axis.

Yep. Okay. So it's a roulette wheel. So I work through what, why would you have a compass? The table's never going to move. the roulette. Oh, it's to detect cheating? Yes, exactly.

Is this a casino trying to see if someone's brought in an electromagnet to steer the ball? Yeah, so the, yeah, they bring on. So it's to make sure that they don't switch out the teflon ball, the non-magnetic ball that is used in a roulette ball, not switched out for a magnetic one that could then be controlled. Wow. I did not know that casinos had teflon balls. Could I have phrased that definitely?

Yes, absolutely. I refused you. Rulet wheels can be made vulnerable to cheats via magnets. A roulette ball is traditionally made from Teflon or Ivorine. If scam artists swap out the ball for a metal one that reacted to the magnet, the compass would twitch as the ball spun around the wheel. Wow, yeah, I get. But the thing is, that means that someone did it once.

I always think when you have these kinds of things that these things put in place and regulations and stuff, I always, it always makes you think someone did that once and they had to go, okay, no more. There's a story ever so often. So rather than trying to stop people from accessing the ball, they've just made it so they can detect the ball if the ball's changed and then so it's always there and it'll probably never move.

One thing I know about roulette cheating is it's not about knowing exactly where the ball will land because that's really obvious to detect. It's about skewing the odds ever so, likely by tilting the table just a degree, or knowing which quarter it's going to fall in, that's enough to change the odds. I mean, you can steadily beat the casino. So it sounds silly to have a magnetic ball. It's not about, like, attracting the ball to one place. It's going to be about attracting it to a quarter of the ball, just changing the odds a little.

Good luck with the next one. The outskirts of Ouse Fleet in the East Riding of Yorkshire has been described as Britain's emptiest experience. Other than a field, an electricity pylon, and a few trees, it looks like much of England. What has put Oosfleet on the map? I'll say that again. The outskirts of Ousefleet in the East Riding of Yorkshire has been described as Britain's emptiest experience.

Other than a field, an electricity pylon and a few trees, it looks like much of England. What has put Ousefleet on the map? Is it emotionally empty? I don't think it's done a very good job, whatever it is, because I have never heard of ooze fleet. Can we get a spelling? Because I really want to know if it's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Ouse

or if it's like a U-Z sort of thing. Oh, it's the river. O-U-S-E. O-U-S-E. Somewhere nearby is the river Ouse. Yes. One of the river oozers. There's more than one.

You wouldn't want to get in it? No, it doesn't feel nice. Empty. It's a lone woman. Lee outskirts, empty. Yeah, Britain's emptiest experience. So is it is it to do with like,

obviously the geographical location of, I was thinking it's not like the most inland because I know that's a little bit further south from, but is it like the furthest from the one point in England that is furthest from any other

like village or town or anything? I keep thinking along those lines, yeah. Experience makes it sound like this is some sort of day out that you can do or like something that people sort of check off like, oh yeah, I've done this, I've done Britain's loneliest or... I've been to the emptiest part of Britain. And we'd be like, ooh, tell us more.

That sounds really exciting. Yeah, that sounds thrilling. We're definitely along the right lines here. Yes. Okay. But it has electricity. Or at least a pylon. It has a pylon, yes.

You're definitely circling the answer here, but there's, there's some. something more special about that. So if it's the furthest away from something, I assume. The furthest away is the bit where you're wrong. Okay. But you're certainly in the right area. Is it like the biggest expanse of flat?

But the Yorkshire is not flat. Maybe it is by the coast? Not quite, no. So it's not like the furthest you can see all around, sort of to the horizon there being nothing? No, there's definitely other stuff. You'd need something else with you to tell what's special here. Hmm. A torch? Is it underground?

I can tell you it's eight miles north of Scunthorpe. Oh, let's go. What was the word you's empty? Emptiest experience. Yeah, empty is what's good, yeah. So it's not the furthest from anything. No. I was going to say, it's not like there's no 5G because that's,

well, there's just no transmittable signals. there's something special about that bit. And you would need something else there to really work out where you need to be. Not a compass in a table. Not a compass, but, you know, that might help. Was it like never on a map until recently?

Now we're very close. Very close, yes. The thing you'd need is a map. Yeah, because when you said something put it on the map, if that's literal. That is quite literal, yes. specifically an ordinance survey map, Britain's mapping agency. And I don't know, I got taught about OS maps in school.

I don't know if any of you all did. But if you think back to those... Bronze Duke, Edinburgh. Hey, oh, then you definitely have the knowledge required to solve this one. Oh, okay. Let's not... Let's not get hasty here. I may have once possessed the knowledge. Well, I know that an ordinance survey map loves

they have the height on them and the what type of what how if it's marshland or what kind of what you're standing on and they love a symbol I remember we did have to like memorize what all the different symbols were yep because they're one for pylon there is one for pylon yes

because that's a useful thing actually because it's big and there and you should be able to see where it is which is what an order for survey map's all about is like to help you, you know, get lost in deal if you're doing Bronze Duke of Edinburgh. You've got the symbols, you've got the contour lines, there's something else on, not just OS maps, but a lot of maps.

Roads, rivers? Not a feature, just part of the map. Oh, like the measurements on it, is it what's used to be like, this is an exact mile, like this is comparatively to what is in real life to the map, is it? Is it covering it?

Is that thing covering that spot on the map? Quite the opposite. Okay. You're close with like the ruler on the side. I'm sure it's like the scale, that's it. You're close with the scale on the side of the map. There's something else that loads of maps have, particularly these ones for hiking and things like that.

Because you need to tell the distance aside from that scale. Oh, it's in a grid, yeah. It's in a grid. That's a key thing, Dan. So, we've got that this is Ouse Fleet. We've got, this is the emptiest experience and that it's something to do with the national map grid. Is it the only one that's got nothing in it?

Dan, yes. It's not the, it's not quite, I'm going to give you that. The Ordnance Survey divides up the country into square kilometres. That's the grid system. That's the eastings and northings that, at least British kids will have learned in school. and in 2001, a BBC radio show set out to find the most boring place in the country. And Dan, you are right, this is the... It's not quite empty, but this is the grid square with the least stuff in it.

Because it's got one pylon, and that's it. It has an electricity line, a couple of pylons, and then other than that, it is a completely blank Ordnand Survey Map Square that looks like there is a error in the map. Amazing. Yep, this is the square kilometre with the least features southeast of Oosfleet in Yorkshire. Dan, whenever you're ready, it's your question, please.

So this question has been sent in by Emily Hyatt, and it is, During dinner, a woman tells her granddaughter, the groom always follows the bride. What does she want? During dinner, a woman tells her granddaughter, the groom always follows the bride. What does she want?

Wow. So I'm sort of picturing like an old lady who's used to bossing around underlings. I mean, like, you should now know what I mean because I've said this cryptic thing to you, five-year-old girl. And it means fetch me wine or, I don't know,

something like that. Bring me new slippers. It does sound like an idiom. Yeah, the first, the first one you said to that, Helena, was it's related to that kind of thing. Okay. Have we just not been to very many traditional weddings

because as a bride once myself, that wasn't said when I would know. Maybe it happened though. What would I, I mean, follow him out the room? Yeah, that's actually, that's not an accurate idiom, is it? The groom and bride walk out together. Well, yeah, famously. It's not actually to do with weddings.

Okay. Is it a bit like men, like women before men, kind of like you open the door to... So in this exact scenario, the bride and groom aren't people. Huh. We forgot to ask the mate, that's an important question to always establish, isn't it? Yes, it is. I forgot that. I've been doing this show for 100 whatever episodes.

Always check if they're human. Always. Yeah, always check the people. But at dinner. So in my head this is a traditional etiquette thing. This is something that is the right thing to do. When you have the Dowager countess around for dinner, the groom always follows the bride.

I'm thinking if it's not main etiquette, if it's not like actual proper etiquette, if it's like a colloquialism of etiquette, if you get what I mean. So my brain went to salt and pepper. That kind of thing. Like salt is the groom and pepper is the bride. And if in etiquette, if there's a...

Other way around, surely, because salt is white. Like... Yeah. So if it's an idiom for a thing on the table, if that's salt and pepper, you have the bride being salt and the groom being pepper, because you always put salt first. Do you?

I assuming, not that I've ever taken an etiquette class, As you can tell, as anyone can tell that's met me. Yeah, I assume there's probably a right way to do it in the same way that they have like 18 different forks. Yeah, so you must add your salt and then your pepper. And then your pepper. So maybe she's already salt. Maybe she's asking which one do you pass me the seasonings.

And the girl's like, oh, which one do you want? And rather than be nice and explain, please can I have the salt? Be normal about it. This absolute grouch. of a lady going. Yes. So you are actually correct there. You are all so in sync

and I did not make the connection that the groom wears a dark suit, so the pepper. The bride is wearing white, so salt. I only just figured that out. Yes, and that is correct. She wants the pepper

because that is the groom following the bride. Yeah. If you say that to a child, the child will continue to stare at you and probably have a little bit of a panic. So all that remains in the episode is the quick question from the start of the show. Thank you to Trevor Cashmore for sending this in. On the set of which 1994 John Goodman film was all glassware banned?

Anyone from the movie podcast want to take a shot at the movie question? Oh no. My first thought was, um, is it? Flintstones. Why do you think that? Because they do rocks instead. It was that or it was something incredibly dangerous, but I don't know, maybe because the entire set's made of styrofoam, they don't like being cut.

Good news, you're right, bad news, I am therefore changing the question. Why was glassware banned on the set of the 1994 John Goodman film, The Flintstones? It had a horrible violent streak. Is it in case it got in shot? Is there just no glassware on that film? Is it because they're never wearing shoes? Correct. The footstones do not wear shoes. Shoes have not been invented in Stone Age bedrock.

So glass was banned from the set because the cast was spending so much of their time barefoot. The director, Brian Levant, accidentally stepped on the foot of Elizabeth Taylor, who had a role in the film. she reassured him not to worry about it, but came back with bandages wrapped around her foot, limping around the set dramatically, and winked at the crew while playing up her injury just to make the director feel bad. So yes, glassware was banned on the Flintstones

because the cast were all barefoot. Thank you very much to our... You know what? I don't know if our players are barefoot or not. I'm going to assume you are. Thank you very much to our players. Michael Deersley, what's the podcast? What's it about? So our podcast is, hey, I love that movie or at Hilton Pod everywhere.

We rewatch old movies. We watched when we were kids. See if they still hold up. Most of the time they don't. And most of the time it's because there's some shocking thing that has aged terribly. Where can people find the podcast, Helena? You can find us at Hilton Pod. That's H-I-L-T-M-Pod.

And you can find me as well on Instagram at Helena Karen Kirk. We are also on TikTok and we have a Discord. And what sort of movies have you covered recently? Dan Faulkner. So the last one we recorded was actually the South Park movie, Bigger, Longer, which has far more swearing than this podcast. We've also recently done Spider-Man 2, Pauls, which was an Australian movie where Billy Connolly voiced a dog.

And we also, if you go back to... A really horny dog. Yes, if you go back to the summer last, year we had a themed month of Augustine Powers where unfortunately we watched all three Austin Powers movies. And if you want to know more about this show, you can do that at lateralcast.com. We can also send in your own ideas for questions and join Producer David's Lateral Producers Club. We are at Lateralcast basically everywhere and there are weekly episodes in full video on Spotify. Thank you very much to Dan Faulkner.

Who! Helmer Kirk. Thank you for having me. Michael Diersley. Thank you for having all of us. I've been Tom Scott and that's been lateral.