Law&Crime Sidebar - 15 Shocking Sex Abuse Claims Against School District
Episode Date: March 16, 2026Teachers, school staff, and administrators, all accused of knowing about sexual predators in a Wisconsin high school and doing nothing, now face a federal lawsuit. Amanda Watzka, Brooke LaCou...nt, and Grace Williams, have come forward with similar stories of alleged grooming and abuse by Oconto Falls High staff. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber combed through the 60-page complaint to get to the bottom of the plaintiffs’ claims.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: Get 50% off your first month of scam protection, credit, identity theft, and dark web monitoring at https://omniwatch.com/sidebar HOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael Deininger, Christina O'Shea, Alex Ciccarone, & Jay CruzScript Writing & Producing - Savannah Williamson & Juliana BattagliaGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrimeTwitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Teachers, school staff, and administrators accused of knowing that a Wisconsin high school was a hunting ground for sexual predators and doing nothing about it.
That is the accusation from three women who all went to Alcanto Falls High and realized that they experienced some of the same alleged abuse and even the same alleged abusers.
It's been an ongoing cause of just hurt and pain.
and so.
Now, they have filed a lawsuit to hold this school district accountable, and we're going to break it down right now.
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You have three plaintiffs in a federal lawsuit against the Board of Education.
of a Conto Falls Public School District in Wisconsin that are right now waiting.
They are waiting a reply from the defendant after they filed a 60-page lawsuit last week.
And their suit is seemingly backed up by arrests and a conviction of school staff in connection
with the parent grooming and assault of teenagers in their care.
It can get a little tricky depending upon the jurisdiction in terms of what prior convictions
can be used as evidence in a civil case or subsequent civil filings, but just generally,
this is what we're talking about.
So this lawsuit claims that when the school district learned about allegations against
teachers or staff, they didn't follow their own procedures.
Instead, the accusation is that they allegedly covered up the misconduct.
According to the law firm that filed this lawsuit, that meant that one of the plaintiff's
abusers was allowed to stay on the district's payroll and eventually abuse another one
of those plaintiffs years later.
Even though there were multiple years of reporting and the warning signs, and yet they failed to act.
What these women discovered in 2025 was not just an isolated incident, but a deeply disturbing
pattern of teacher-student sexual abuse that happened over decades.
As we allege in our lawsuit, this school board, it's deliberate indifference,
created and protected an environment
and cultural where predators
had access to children
and these students were left
unprotected, unheard,
and alone. These women are
coming forward now, not only to see
justice for the harm that was caused to them,
but also to expose the institutional
failures that allowed the abuse
to continue and to demand
meaningful change. So no other students
have to endure what they did.
Our lawsuit
has three plaintiffs.
Grace Williams, who's present to my right,
Amanda Wattska, who's present to my left,
and Brooke LaCount,
who cannot be here today.
These three brave young women
have come forward with these claims
because they want to solve an institutional problem.
They want to stop the culture
where sex abusers, groomers,
other school staff who think it's okay to engage in sexualized conduct and grooming towards students is allowed to flourish.
The goal of this lawsuit is to cause a cultural change, both at Oconto Falls High School, where this happened, and hopefully throughout the region.
Again, our clients are Amanda Wattska, Brooke LeCount, and Grace Williams.
These three women are from Oconto Falls, Wisconsin. All three of them endured sexual.
grooming and abuse by teachers and coaches while they were minors enrolled in this district schools.
Through our investigation over the past approximately eight months, we have identified at least
nine teachers, at least, and staff members who engaged in sexual abuse, grooming, or
severe sexualized misconduct with other students at Oconto Falls.
Of those other students, we have identified at least four.
14 known victims over an approximate 20-year period from 205 to 2025.
20 years, folks, that children sat in these classrooms, trusted the adults around them,
and were failed by every single person in a position to protect them while at that school.
We're asking you to come forward.
Let's blow this open.
This is a reckoning for this problem.
It's got to stop.
and these women have stepped forward to carry the load to make it stop.
All right, the suit's been filed.
We're waiting on a judge assignment in a first court date.
Once I have the paperwork, the summons back from the court,
we will send it out for service on Oconto Falls,
and we'll keep you further updated as we go forward.
Thank you very much, questions.
So it seems this lawyer introduced the three plaintiffs in this case,
Grace Williams, Amanda Watska, and Brooke LeCount.
According to the filing, these women didn't even know each other back in high school, but that they met later on social media and realized they all had similar stories of a parent grooming and inappropriate contact with district employees.
Also, by the way, literally breaking as we recorded this, two more plaintiffs were added to the lawsuit as part of this amended complaint, both former students of Ocantle Falls High School, Brianna Kane and Kayla Casper.
And we're going to hear from one of those plaintiffs, Amanda, in just a moment.
but first, I want to go through some of these allegations, okay?
And I do want to let you know up front that this filing names a lot of different people.
And we're only going to be identifying the three people that the women directly accused of abuse,
so two of whom have either already been convicted of sex crimes or are currently awaiting trial.
And also of note, the lawsuit doesn't name them as defendants, instead only naming the school district itself.
But you read from the complaint and it says, quote,
This is a civil rights action arising from the sexual grooming and abuse of three students at Accanto Falls High School by teachers and coaches employed by the board.
Plaintiff Amanda was groomed and sexually abused by her tech education teacher, David Heisel, while she was a student at Akanto Falls High School from approximately 2010 to 2013 when she was between the ages of 16 and 18.
When you talk about liability and responsibility of the school district, the board, it's because the people, the educators who are accused of doing all this, they were employed.
They were acting as agents, right, of the employee.
You're talking about not something that they did, not within the scope or the course of their employment, but that it was connected to it, right?
So I just want to make that clear as we go through it.
As of now, though, David Heisel has not faced criminal charges in connection with any sort of sex crimes.
but the complaint does make pretty damning allegations against him and even provides photos of him with Amanda, which will get more into the specifics in a second.
But the Green Bay Press Gazette, and by the way, also I should tell you, criminal case is very different from a civil case, right?
So you might not have sufficient evidence to prosecute to say that someone committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt are highest standard.
Whereas when you talk about potential liability from the same set of facts, the same set of circumstances, all you need to usually show is,
preponderance of the evidence, right? So more than 50%, it's a lower standard of proof.
So that's why sometimes you can see a finding of liability in a civil case, but maybe no charges
in a criminal case or maybe not guilty in a criminal case. All right. Now, the Green Bay Press
Gazette reports that while Heisle's name still appears on a district website as being a teacher,
he's not listed in the school's directory. Continue from the complaint. Plaintiff Brooke was
groomed and sexually abused by assistant volleyball coach Bryn Marie Larson while Brooke was a 15-year
old sophomore at Oconto Falls High School during the 2013-2014 school year. Plaintiff Grace was
groomed and sexually abused by substitute teacher Bryn Marie Larson while Grace was a 17-year-old
junior at Oconto Falls High School in February through April 2018. Now those dates kind of give you
an idea of how long the district is accused of allowing a predatory environment with the plaintiff's
allegations dating all the way back to 2010 and some concern in the filing that it could have
even been going on even longer. The lawsuit also names a third former staffer, ex-teacher,
Gail Gander. The 60-year-old was reportedly fired from the district back in December,
charged in January with five counts of sexual misconduct of school staff, three counts of child
enticement involving the exposure of genitals, and three counts of exposing his own genitals
to a child. None of those planes have accused gander of abuse, but they claim.
that his charges are in connection with teenage boys.
You go back to the lawsuit.
Throughout the periods of their abuse,
plaintiffs were minors who did not understand
that their teacher's conduct was predatory, criminal,
or constituted actionable civil wrongs.
Each plaintiff always remembered the facts
of what occurred to her, but did not understand
until 2025 that those facts reflected criminal conduct
and constitutional violations.
Now, this is important because it speaks to why
the women are coming forward to file this lawsuit now,
Years later, when there could have been a statute of limitations issue, right?
You know, is it time barred?
But also goes to credibility.
Why do you wait all this time to file a lawsuit make these accusations?
So their legal team argues that since the women didn't realize what happened to them was a crime until 2025,
that's when the clock restarts.
Quote, the theory of plaintiff's case against the board is not simply that they were sexually abused,
but that they were abused by teachers and coaches under circumstances created by the board
through its pervasive custom and policy of knowing about teacher, student, sexual abuse, and
failing to act.
A lot of these lawsuits, the question is, did you create an environment for this to happen, right?
Did you enable this to happen?
Quote, while plaintiffs were aware of their abuse, they had no knowledge and no reason to know
of the board's unwritten policies, customs, and practices tolerating sexual abuse and grooming
across many teachers and students, and the board's deliberate indifference to such conduct
until fall 2025 when they learned of the full scope of teacher, student, sexual abuse at Ocanto
Falls High School and the board's decades-long pattern of ignoring it.
The board's conduct and maintaining such unwritten policies, customs, and practices
was entirely within the board's own control and wholly unknown to plaintiffs prior to 2025.
By the way, let me just, quick sidebar here.
These are allegations.
These are allegations, right?
They're making some serious accusations against the school board and the school district,
but, and obviously they'll have a, and obviously the other side will have an opportunity to respond and defend themselves, but I just want to make that clear.
In fall of 2025, plaintiffs discovered for the first time that the board had such unwritten policies, customs, and practices of fostering and condoning sexual abuse and grooming by discovering that at least nine different teachers, including their own abusers, had engaged in grooming and or sexual abuse as to at least 14 identified victims spanning a period of at least 20 years, 2005 to 2025, and that the board had consistently failed to investigate discipline or otherwise act.
on reports of abuse. So the complaint then has this chart laying out some of the allegations
when they reportedly happened, who was involved, who was allegedly involved. The alleged
victims are identified by their initials. Some of the people in the perpetrator column are
identified as staff members A, B, C, D, and E. So for example, staff member A is accused of
quote, alleged sexual conduct in Isshack in approximately 2011. Staff member B is accused of
alleged sexualized quid pro quo for grades between 2012 and 2015.
The chart claims that staff member C&D participated in alleged verbal harassment on multiple
occasions, made propositions to a sugar baby after graduation, and sent inappropriate social
media messages.
The lawsuit then gets into specific claims that are made by Amanda and Grace and Brooke.
I want to start with Amanda.
Now, she claims that she met David Heisel in her sophomore year, that she was interested
in drafting and architecture, so she took several classes with Heisel, this tech education
teacher.
She claims that Heisel showed her special attention, nominating her to be student of the month
and helping her to go to a competition called Skills USA.
And she claims that his interactions with her went beyond a normal teacher-student relationship.
Quote, Heisel began discussing personal subjects with Amanda, including his personal life,
interests and hobbies while asking Amanda about her personal interests, home life and hobbies.
Heisel started inviting Amanda on drives during her sophomore year, continuing through her senior year.
During these drives, they would go to Heisel's job sites, go out to eat and sit in his vehicle and talk for
hours. Amanda does not have an exact count, but averse these drives occurred at least weekly,
sometimes multiple times per week over approximately three years, including her junior and senior years.
destinations included his construction sites, Green Bay, his house, and his grandmother's house.
During these drives, Heisel discussed his sex life with Amanda,
inquired about her sexual history and experiences, and discussed his home life,
his marriage, and his children while alone with Amanda.
Amanda was 16 and a sophomore when these drives began.
So according to Amanda, Heisel told her about his upbringing as a Christian,
reportedly told her he could take care of like a good Christian.
man would or could take care of her like a good Christian man would. She claims that he told her
his wife had cheated on him, but that he was going to leave for Amanda. And she says she believes
she was in this legitimate romantic relationship. And she even allegedly provided a few photos
from her high school years that she says backs up her claims that Heisel was openly inappropriate
with her. For example, there's a photo of a tape measure or there's seemingly a photo of a tape
measure that Amanda kept with her, that kept with her supplies in the classroom with her
maiden name on it. And she claims that Heisel put his own initials, D.H. at the bottom.
That there's another apparent photograph showing Amanda posing with a male student. And Heisel,
apparently in a black sweatshirt, is off to the side looking at the pair in what Amanda
described as a kind of defensive posture. There's also a photo of Heisel and Amanda at her
graduation from Maconto Falls High, and she's holding Heisel's young son making it seem like
they were a family. That seems to be the characterization there. And according to Amanda, I mean,
the real thing here is that she claims Heisel sexually assaulted her during an out-of-town trip.
Quote, in or about spring 2012, Amanda attended a Skills USA competition at Chula Vista Resort in Wisconsin
Dells. During this trip, Heisel entered Amanda's hotel room and scoped out the room and
bathrooms for other students, Amanda immediately felt threatened and fearful. As Heisel attempted to
engage Amanda in sexual activity, she was able to leave the room and return to the common hallway.
Heisel followed her into the hotel stairway. The lawsuit then goes on to describe an assault
in the stairway in very graphic detail, and she claims that Heisel didn't rape her, but only
because she managed to convince him to stop because he was a married man. And then years later,
Amanda started to open up about what she says happened to her. The lawsuit reads, as Amanda began
to investigate and discuss her experiences with others, she learned for the first time that numerous
other students had experienced teacher on student's sexual abuse at Oconto Falls High School
and that the board had created an environment in which such abuse was enabled and empowered to occur.
Amanda learned in 2025 that the board's pattern of knowledge of teacher-student abuse and failing to
Act spanned at least 20 years, 2005 to 2025, involved at least nine different teachers and
affected at least 14 identified victims. Prior to 2025, Amanda did not know that the board had
a pervasive problem with other teachers engaging in abuse and grooming and failed to act, or that
the board's systemic failures had created a culture in which teachers like Heisel could abuse
students without consequence. Amanda did not learn that the board injured her through its own
institutional conduct until 2025. So this goes to the questions again of why filing now.
Why didn't you make these accusations earlier on? It's about a knowledge component. And look,
an underlying part about this will be trying to prove what happened or allegedly happened in 2012,
which could be a challenge. You know, is there corroborating evidence? Is there corroborating witnesses?
Is there photos? Other text messages, things like that. Now, Amanda did speak at this news conference announcing
the federal lawsuit. Take a look.
Are either you comfortable talking about that?
I feel like we just began to share our stories.
We're not even completely there yet.
My personal abuser has not been held accountable at all at this point,
and we're over a year from me coming forward.
So it's been an ongoing cause of just hurt and pain.
And so coming forward, having the voice to do so and the means to do so and the support to do so is important because not everybody has that opportunity that is in the same position that we are in.
It's got to stop, right?
So it takes somebody to have the courage to step up and stop it.
Otherwise, it's going to continue for another 20 years.
And then other plaintiffs will be in their motherhood or their later years and uncover the trauma that they experienced in their earlier years.
and I just want to prevent that as much as possible because it has impacted my life greatly.
Okay, now I want to talk about Brooke LeCamp.
So she and Grace Williams claim that they were both targeted by Bryn Marie Larson,
who would end up spending some time in prison for sexual assault.
So Brooke claims that she met Larson through Larson's mom, Dawn,
who was head coach of the school's volleyball team.
Larson was apparently the assistant coach had filled in as her substitute teacher is needed.
Quote, this is from the complaint.
Around August 2013, Brin Marie Larson began sending Snapchat messages to Brooke often late at night.
Brin Marie Larson began sending Brooke photographs of her naked body and asking Brooke to reciprocate.
Brooke had just turned 15 years old and felt uncertain, confused, and pressured because Brin was one of her volleyball coaches.
Brin says things quickly escalated to Larson asking her out when she was just 15 years old.
They ate at Panera.
then Larson pulled into a target parking lot, put the seats in her vehicle down, and engaged Brooke in sexual activity.
The lawsuit says Brooke did not know what sex between women was and was not interested in sexual activity with women,
but she felt obligated to comply because of the power differential between her and Brin Marie Larson
and because of her youth and inexperience.
Around the same time, Brin Marie Larson told Brooke she could turn her into a college athlete.
Brin Marie Larson also began attempting to separate Brooke from her family by telling her that her family did not come to enough games and did not care about her, but that Brooke could always rely on Brin.
And Larson started inviting Brooke over to her house and Brooke would end up spending the night and the lawsuit claims that Larson's own mom, Dawn, knew what was going on.
Brin Marie Larson had Brooke sleep in her bed, where Larson would sleep nude and engage
or attempt to engage Brooke in sexual acts.
Larson also played pornography on her television.
When Brooke stayed overnight, Dawn Larson, health education teacher, head coach, and
mandated reporter, was present in the home and aware of Brooke's presence.
Don Larson observed Brooke and Brin Marie Larson snuggling on the couch and had to have been
aware that they were sleeping in the same bed.
Now, in 2014, police started investigating Larson, and Brooke says she was terrified and confused and denied having sexual contact with her assistant coach.
Despite the police investigation, nothing was done to stop Bryn-Marie Larson's contact with Brooke.
Larson subsequently showed up at Brooke's mother's workplace, sent Brooke flowers, and continued engaging with her online.
Brooke says her so-called relationship with Larson continued, but Brooke actually ended up switching schools because rumors around school were rampant that you,
she was a lesbian involved with Larson.
Now, Larson also moved to another district for a while,
but would eventually, would seemingly be allowed to return to Ocanto Falls.
So the lawsuit refers to the school's athletic director
and what he allegedly knew about what was going on.
Quote, in the police report from the 2014 investigation,
the investigating officer recounted the following regarding his conversation with Moynihan.
By the way, I should also tell you this is all potential evidence in lawsuit.
I did speak with Jerry Moynihan, the Ocanto Falls High School athletic director,
Jerry said that he remembered people complaining to him about seeing Brin and Brooke together,
but that he wasn't really able to substantiate anything.
Jerry said that he did have a discussion with Brin about boundaries.
And the complaint goes on to name more school teachers and staff
who would have seen Larson and Brooke together in situations that were at the minimum inappropriate.
And then the complaint references the third plaintiff, Grace Williams.
She claims she was 17, a junior at Acconto Falls in the 2017-2018-2018.
school year that Larson had been allowed to return to the district as a substitute teacher around
the same time. Quote, in 2025, Amanda contacted Brooke about Amanda's own experiences of abuse at
Aconto Falls High School. Through this contact and subsequent investigation in 2025, Brooke learned
for the first time that despite the 2014 police investigation, the board permitted Larson to return
to Oconto Falls as a substitute teacher in 2018, where she victimized Grace Williams in
substantially the same manner. So Larson was once again accused of using social media to kick off
this sick behavior. The lawsuit states in or about February 2018, Bryn Marie Larson added Grace on
Snapchat. Grace accepted because she knew Larson was adding popular students. By the way, when I talked
about evidence before, if you have the social media proof, right, if you have photos, messages, it's all key.
Grace says that all of her friends were also communicating with Larson, but that Larson singled her out.
saying she would leave her girlfriend for Grace and allegedly started doing things like sending her flowers and inviting her to her home.
And during one of those visits to Larson's home, the lawsuit claims Larson invited Grace to her house along with other students, including T.F and M.K.
When Grace went to Larson's house, Larson asked Grace to come to the bedroom with her and began making out with Grace in her room.
Grace tried to stop it so she could leave peacefully.
Grace then saw Dawn Larson, who was present in the home at the time.
Grace and Dawn locked eyes and Dawn walked away.
This occurred in or about March 2018.
Yeah.
After the bedroom incident, Grace told her mother about what happened.
Grace's mother wanted to go to the police, but Grace did not want to because she was scared
of being bullied or harassed by other students.
Grace eventually disclosed the abuse to her friend, T.F.
Who went to the school resource officer and reported it.
The school resource officer spoke with Grace and had her explain what happened.
Grace believes the school principal and guidance counselor were also notified.
Despite these reports, the board conducted no formal investigation, and Grace was never formally interviewed by school officials.
Grace was not given any emotional support, counseling, or other supportive measures.
Students began blaming Grace for Brin and Dawn's departure.
Grace's story was not taken seriously by school officials, and for her, no one really cared.
That's quote, no one really cared.
So Larson pleaded no contest in February of 2021 to third-degree sexual assault.
This is according to the Green Bay Press Gazette, a little bit different than pleading guilty.
You're basically saying, I'm not going to fight this. It's different than making a formal admission.
A charge of second degree sexual assault of a child and two counts of child enticement were dismissed as part of a plea and she went to prison for two years.
It was released in 2023.
And the lawsuit goes into other allegations against teachers and staff at Conto Falls.
That includes Gail Gander, an English arts teacher who worked at the high school for decades.
Quote, honor about December 15, 2025, Gander was arrested.
on criminal charges for allegations of misconduct during his employment with the district.
The arrest relates to allegations from five student victims whose allegations are sufficiently
recent to fall within the applicable statute of limitations.
An additional victim of Gander's misconduct known as MD has come forward stating,
I wish I had the courage to speak up about Gander back in 05, but I didn't.
MD's statement indicates that Gander was engaging in sexual conduct with students as early as 2005,
meaning the board allowed Gander's abuse to continue for at least 20 years.
That's the quote from the complaint.
Other staff members were apparently accused of going to high school parties with students,
creating an alleged list of the hottest students in school,
touching teenagers inappropriately in full view of their classmates.
So this lawsuit includes multiple different appendices,
which contain more charts of alleged abuse.
You have Appendix A, it's titled, Pattern of Abuse, Victims, Perpetrators, Conduct, Board Knowledge.
Appendix B, timeline of reports on the board's apparent response.
Appendix C, list mandated reporters that the plaintiff's claim failed in their duties to protect the students.
All three plaintiffs claim that their interactions with the Conto Falls staff left them with ongoing discomfort, PTSD, more harm.
Again, this goes to the damages calculation.
They all are suing for violation of Title IX and a Manel claim.
Title IX, of course, protects students from discrimination or harm related to their sex.
A Menel claim refers to a deprivation of rights to bodily integrity under the 14th Amendment,
so the women say the district and its employees violated that.
And the suit doesn't give a specific amount of damages or compensation that the plaintiffs are looking for,
but instead says, quote, all three plaintiffs suffered substantial damages,
including loss of equal educational opportunities, emotional distress, and other compensatory damages,
wherefore Amanda, Brooke, and Grace respectfully request that this court entered judgment in their favor,
and against the board award compensatory damages and amounts to be determined at trial,
either injunctive relief requiring the board to institute adequate policies and procedures
to prevent teachers student grooming and sexual abuse and grants such other relief as the court deems just and proper.
Now, local affiliate Action 2 News reached out to the school district for a response to this lawsuit.
The district sent them a statement that says in part plaintiffs threatened to sue the district
and made substantial monetary demands in August 2025.
Since August, the district has responded to plaintiffs and their attorneys to recognize the wrongs by these two former employees,
but also to help them understand that the district took prompt action when it was made aware of the misconduct.
The district is confident that its past actions and its response to plaintiff's demands have satisfied its duty to keep its students and schools safe.
By working with law enforcement, the district has addressed each of these situations.
Plaintiffs' allegations in their complaint about other staff and other students,
have also been investigated by the district.
The district's staff of excellent professional educators
strive every day to deliver a great educational experience
for all students.
This is not diminished by the inexcusable actions
of these identified former employees
in every instance in which the district
became aware of allegations against an individual
definitive action has been taken.
The district is not able to comment further
on the details of this lawsuit as it is ongoing matter.
The district remains confident, however,
that it will continue to act promptly
to any allegation.
of misconduct. So it's interesting because the school district has been served with the lawsuit.
They've issued a summons. I'm sure they're going to file a formal answer, you know,
denying the allegations, maybe putting forward affirmative defenses for why this case can't move
forward. But it's interesting about what they seem to admit to and what they don't, and whether
or not they're going to take this to trial to clear their name or not. Because if they go forward
with the settlement, there's a number of reasons why you'd want to go through a settlement, right?
You don't want the time, the expense of going through a trial, discovery, what information
is going to be shared. That could be problematic. But, you know, if you issue a settlement or if you
go through with a settlement, there will be many of those out there who believe that the school
is just trying to wipe this away, right? And so it's tough. It's tough. Interesting to see what
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