Law&Crime Sidebar - 5 Accused Predators Who Got Busted for Allegedly Targeting Kids

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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You're under arrest for a sexual battery. Have a minor. A minor. Mm-hmm. And possession, drop, drop, wrong. Why's your zipper your buttons down on your crotch? Well, I probably just forgot. At any given time, there are criminals out there praying on the most vulnerable across the country.

But law enforcement officers are busting more and more suspects showing predatory behavior. We're going to discuss some recent predator busts, and who better to talk about some of these operations, than the unflappable and renowned predator catcher Chris Hansen. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber. All right, before we even get started, we've got to talk about something, an elephant in the room, if you will. We've read your comments, folks. I know.

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By the way, Chris Hanson, everybody. You can check him out. He's the host of Take Down on True Blue, the podcast predators I've caught and I'm so happy to have you here because we're going to be breaking down these five big predator catchers from recent cases and I mean honestly who better to break it down then you so let's get into it we're going to get into the first one right now this first one is in Cape Coral Florida in September 22 there's a 911 phone call from these concerned parents who believe that this man was inappropriately messaging their minor age child online and police interviewed them about the situation let's take a look he's not coming you right now i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying you guys right now and i'm i'm this is not a threat

this is not a promise this is an instinct we're there's no more contact that's definitely if this man shows up on this door i am taking that as a threat to my children right i'm pissed because i had a gut feeling and i didn't have enough that's okay you didn't now it's in front of me and i'm mad No, it's like I get it. Okay. I'll document it in my report that he was giving obscene gifts. And he's luring them with money because they're young adults wanting to be... It's like candy.

Yeah, like I don't know how to explain it. I get it. If he didn't get to our kid, I don't want him to get into another. Yeah, so that's the whole point. Somebody like this has been thinking about this longer than just our kid. So I'm going to put in my report that they're interested in working with detectives. I'm talking to this. guy because like it's gone to that point where like if the child was naive enough to go alone

with him somewhere like Chris they actually end up working with the child they continued to message with this man on the other end eventually a cape pearl police officer took over pretended to be the child is that typically how it's done well I think it's how it should be done if a parent sees this sort of activity online with their child and they reported to the police as they did in this case it would make sense that the police would then work with the child and the family to take over the identity and create a criminal prosecution against the man who is clearly up to no good. I mean, this guy is a bad actor who's trying to solicit a child for illicit purposes, and there's a record of it.

But for the police to take it a step further and go undercover and actually go get the guy, I think that's textbook. That's the way it's supposed to work. And not surprisingly, I think we can all imagine what happened. this conversation quickly became sexual, lasted for several weeks. And according to investigators, the man, identified as 51-year-old Reagan-Barrisford, even sent graphic nude photos to, again, somebody he thought was a minor. And they arranged to meet up at this local gas station. But while Beresford was expecting a minor to show up, that is not who showed up.

Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Put your hands behind you. Get out of the car. Put your sunglasses down. Put your hands behind him. What he can't? Do anything on? You're going to cut me, stick me or poke me? Go with him. He's a custody.

No. We're going to walk over here, okay? No weapons on you? No. All right, go ahead, sit inside? Sit tight real quick, okay? We'll explain everything else going on. So Chris, that actually went.

went relatively smoothly? I think it went very smoothly, Jesse, because you had the police set up the sting operation. They had the evidence, the probable cause to make an arrest, the probable cause to charge this guy with, you know, multiple felonies in all likelihood. And he showed up to meet who he thought was going to be a child. And armed with all this evidence, they took him down without any fuss, without any violence, without anybody getting hurt. So you have to give credit to this police department, these detectives, and these arresting officers for doing it very, very well. I'm glad you said that because sometimes it's the planning that's the most important thing. You can't just go and gung-ho like that.

And it's the case. It's going to the district attorney of the prosecutor's office and saying, look, here's what we got. This is the next step. And that's why we, on our takedown investigations, always collaborate with law enforcement. So the decoys, the chatters are law enforcement. so there's no question about the possession of the chats or the chain of custody of the evidence. All that is protected.

And so there's a near-perfect prosecution rate because of it. Yes, I want to be as involved as possible. I want to get in the mind of this predator and do this interview. And I'm able to do that still with the law enforcement collaboration that we have. You said it so perfectly because you have to make sure that's an ironclad prosecution. Otherwise, if you just come home. Because what have you done? You've created a video for clicks and views and potentially.

potentially profit. But you haven't created any sense of justice. And to be socially responsible, that's what we have to do as journalists, as content creators, doing these stories. And clearly serious. We're talking about the charges. Beresford was charged with traveling to meet a minor, solicitation of a child, transmission of material harmful to a minor. He entered a not guilty plea. The case is still ongoing. I think it's pretty clear that these are very disturbing stories, to say the least. And whenever I hear stuff about this, I'm always saying to myself, how well do you really know the people in your life? Who do you let into your life?

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You can get 50% off of your first month of confidential background reports right now. Just go to truthfinder.com slash LC sidebar. Now we're going to go over to a different case. This is out of Michigan. So this is Sandusky, Michigan, August 2022, where a man accused of trying to pull a young girl into a thrift store bathroom, made things a whole lot worse for himself. You see, a woman reported to police that she was in the store with her two young children, an eight-year-old daughter, six-year-old. son when suddenly the boy ran up and said that a man was trying to take his sister my daughter was apparently attempted to be pulled into the bathroom by a young man here

okay i said a young man oh i'm sorry okay my i was right around the corner at the racks where the clothes were my son came over and told me someone was trying to grab her and take her into the bathroom. I obviously went over there and he was inside with her trying to get out of the bathroom crying. That's another reason why I don't believe that he tried to push her out because I saw her in the bathroom trying to get out. I would like you could not be around her please. I've got everything I need from you guys. Okay. Why don't you guys go ahead? Just take off. We'll get back with you guys when we have more information, okay?

What happened? Yep. You got to go on the middle back. What? Somebody, a kid that works there trying to pull her into the back room. Is he in there? No. Is he in there?

Stay here. Oh. Is he in there? I'm going to go deal with that in a moment, okay? Wow. So that's pretty happening. Have you ever encountered anything like that where somebody's trying to... We've seen it.

We've seen cases like this that have developed spontaneously where you've got the more classic sort of predator who's hanging out. in places where families may be trying to break a child away from the family gathering and take her into a place to, you know, catch this child by surprise and commit this heinous act. We've also seen cases where grooming has taken place between the predator and the target where they've been texting while the child is with a family at a store someplace and tries to get the girl to meet him in the, you know, unisex or family restroom. I mean, it's shocking.

And here you have a very fluid and dynamic case where the father, presumably the father shows up. Now, if you're the dad, you're going to be mad as hell. Oh, yeah. And you're going to want to take this guy and throttle him. And that's a natural tendency. And the police officer here now has to say, I get it. I'd be upset, too. In fact, I am upset, even as a law enforcement officer who's supposed to just investigate this thing objectively.

But I'm going to go deal with this guy, and I need you to be here with your family and protect them, I go protect you and everybody else in this community. And that's a challenge because if I'm the dad, I'm going to whip this guy's ass, just throw down. And that's the natural instinct. But again, if you let that train go too far down the tracks, you're going to have a problem with the prosecution. So you have to cool it down, as difficult as it is,

and say, look, I get where you're coming from. And if it was my child, I'd feel the same way. But let me go deal with this and make sure that we do the right thing. You said it's so right. The problem with that prosecution, also a problem of that person getting in trouble, too. Well, yeah, you don't want that, you know, and that's the other problem that we see with these vigilante predator catchers is they sometimes get violent with the target. And I'm not defending anything that the predator has done because it's horrible, foul, and illegal. But if you assault them, then you're guilty too.

And we've seen cases around the country where the vigilante predator has been prosecuted or himself harmed in a normal way. Which makes it more important the work that you do, Chris. So in this case, to give everybody what happened, the manager or owner of this thrift store, comes out to talk to the officer, relates that they've had problems with the suspect, 19-year-old Andrew and Jewel before this happened. And the officer goes inside to get a better look

at the alleged scene of the crime while Jewel tries desperately trying to avoid going to jail. So he does, he had a charge in the pier because he was on probation recording misdemeanor, but he was never charged. They had never had enough evidence at the same time. Okay. What I see on the camera, I can quote it to you, is him going in the back, coming back out, then looking and waited until they came back around.

And it's right back there in the corner, so I have no clear angle on that. on that. His name is named, you know, his information. I'll be getting it from him. Okay, so I got both doors locked just because of that situation. I didn't want to escalate. Would you like to go around back and talk to him or just, we can go through you. All right, can I talk, please? Yeah, go ahead. I was in the bathroom. Before I sat the door, I told her, because they pick a free toy. You can ask them up there. I told him that. You guys can get a free toy because they go, they look at the toys. I shut the door. When I was just, using the bathroom.

The little girl walked in us. And she made it halfway in the doorway. I freaked out and tried to slam the door. And it hit her. That's why she was crying. I can't go to jail, dude. I'm on probation. Please, please.

Get off the phone. Please, I swear to God. I swear to God! I swear to God! Turn around, put your hands on your back. Right now. I swear to God! God. I swear to God. I swear. I swear. You've heard so many people try to explain themselves away in those situations.

Well, so many thoughts crossed my mind here. One, you know, I'm going to go to jail because you've been previously charged with what a misdemeanor. For what? I don't know. No, you know exactly what it is. And it's something very similar to what you've done here. The other thing that comes in mind, Jesse, is that sometimes we get criticized when we show a predator who is 18, 19 years old, right? You know, still a teenager, going after somebody who's, you know, 14, 15. Well, guess what? It's still illegal. It's not Romeo and Juliet. And this is a prime example of why you need to intervene and go after somebody. This guy may not be the sharpest guy in town, but he is just as dangerous as anybody else.

and just as dangerous as a 29, 39, or 49-year-old, this 19-year-old. And clearly, it's not normal behavior to buy a strange child, a toy. Something bad was going to happen if the son, the other child, the brother, hadn't done what he did. By the way, he might have been concerned about a misdemeanor, but prosecutors ended up charging Jules with attempted kidnapping, attempted unlawful imprisonment, and at the preliminary hearing in December, the victims and law enforcement testified, but Jule insisted on testifying as well, You got to get this. The prosecutor in the end amended the kidnapping charge to a full-blown kidnapping with child enticement, which our understanding carries a possible life sentence.

Prosecutors, Jewel, they reached a plea deal and Jewel pled guilty to the kidnapping charge. He is going to be sentenced in June. All right. So we're going to keep this going now. And we want to go to August 23 where officers in Stillwater, Oklahoma, went to a woman's apartment. And this was after a very chilling report from her boyfriend. You see, he told police that while she was sleeping, he looked through her phone and found multiple disturbing images and videos of his three-year-old daughter. Hello. You Ashley? What's your last name?

Okay. Come here. Put your hands on. You're in earnest. I have pants on. What's that? Where is he? Ashley, do you have any of the man? Yeah, let's push around in the room. There you go.

Do you have any room? Are there jeans or shorts or shorts or powder on there? So the man told police that he had met Ashley Cheatham there online and she became his girlfriend, moved in with him. And again, quickly moving to get her into custody. as soon as the doors open, getting her covered up, some pants of some sort to wear. Then it's time to go to jail. Let's see what happened. Your other arrest for a sexual battery of a minor? A minor.

A minor. And possession, drop her on. You know, Chris, it's not only male predators, it's female predators. Did she seem surprised? I don't think she was surprised at all. She knew exactly what they were talking. about and she feigns some sort of disbelief or being upset about it, but I mean, can you imagine the kind of person, Jesse, who initiates a relationship and probably along the way had a discussion about do you have kids, yes, I have a young daughter, and who gets into that relationship probably with a premeditated plan of taking child porn of that innocent child and selling it online. And that is what it appears was going to have.

happen here. I mean, to do this to a child, to abuse the child, and then to photograph it and create child pornography and sell it to people who will view it, and every time an image of child pornography is viewed, it is the re-victimization of that child, make no mistake. And that's why the laws against child pornography are so strict in the sentences are so heavy, because it is just the worst, among the worst exploitations of children you can possibly imagine. And the other thing is, there is no question. If you talk to the therapist and the psychiatrists who work in prisons, who interview predators who are being honest, who have nothing to lose, they will tell you, without exception, there is a link between viewing child pornography and offending, acting

out. So not only are you exploiting this poor, innocent child, you are fueling this desire and this fantasy that these guys can't control. And that's why we see. see them show up in our predator investigations, partly. And it doesn't stop there because when the news broke, Cheatham had listed her job as a power professional at Nekoma Park Elementary on social media. So, of course, that raised a lot of red flags. The superintendent released a statement saying Ashley Cheatham was in the process of being hired by the district for the 2023, 2024 school year. All employees are required to do a federal background checked as a part of the hiring process. before that process was completed, a mutual decision to terminate the hiring process was made.

Ms. Cheatham never worked for the district, never received a paycheck, and has never been with any of our students. Cheatham was hit with six charges, two counts of possession of child porn, child sexual abuse, child sexual exploitation, unlawful access to a computer and unlawful possession of a controlled drug. She actually waived her preliminary hearing. Her case is ongoing, but Chris, I'll give you the final word on where she almost worked. Well, I mean, to work with children like that is just so, so frightening that somebody could actually line up for a job like that. And here, you know, I'm not sure the extent to which the potential employer did due diligence, but, you know, clearly cursory check didn't do the job here. Thank goodness she wasn't around more children. All right, we're going to continue this on.

We're going to go down back to Florida. We're going to talk about this other disturbing scene. this time at a park in Port Orange in 2023. This is when police get a call that a man there was apparently exposing himself. I'm getting the kids out at the same time. So I get the kids out and I just clans one more time. And sure enough, you know, penises on his hand, phones out, his pants are down, almost to his knees. So then that's when we load it up and phone.

Yikes, that's a vivid description. It sure is. Brazen. And daylight, you know, there's a guy with, you know, his kids and this guy is doing this. you know, what has he done before? What would he do next had he not been caught in this situation? That's the frightening part. You want to hear what happens next?

Sure. Okay, so the police, they show up at this children's splash pad area. They find a man, Levan Glenn in his car, and he uses, what is the age old excuse, I was just changing clothes in my car. It's not what it looks like. Let's take a listen. You ever have, like, while you were changing, do you have your phone in your hands at all? My phone's always up to you again.

You're not going to take my car, bro. You're not going to take my car. No, I'm not, man. You're not going to get tased. You're going to get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. So Glenn does, in fact, get tased, and that is when he

hits the gas, takes off, and the chase is on. Stop! Chaser, taser! Taser! Wow. So, I mean, how often do you see them run away and police have to chase them? He's running because he knows he's going to go to jail for doing something that was horrible. Right. Something that was, you know, intended to exploit children.

Have you been in that situation before? I've seen chases. And in one of our most recent predator investigations, we, in fact, had a guy who ran and they took him down. And the reason he ran was because he had done time in prison. He was the son of very important people in this community, influential people. He was embarrassed. He was dating a woman who had teenage girls at home. And he was there to meet a teenage girl after a sexually explicit conversation.

So he tried to run. And as he came into the house, I said, you don't want to do this. It's not going to work out well for you. And he goes, the sheriff's department takes him down. Brings him back. I said, what did I tell you? Oh, I know. But the guys run because they've got someone to hide. There's no good reason to run, Jesse.

They know they're going to get caught. But also in the law, in a prosecution, we call it consciousness of guilt. I mean, presented to a jury, why else would he have run unless he did it? Now, defense attorneys, it becomes a headache to try to explain it. They go, well, you know, they've had bad interactions with police before. You know, they were nervous about police. But that becomes not made me sympathetic with the defendant. First of all, he's doing what he was doing, which there is no sense.

sympathy anywhere in any quarter for somebody like that, right? And then he runs and runs. He takes off in his car, which is dangerous. He could have killed somebody. Then he runs and jumps over a wall. What do you think is going to happen? You're going to taste you. And you deserve it. And apparently he has a long history in the Volusia County justice system dating back to the 90s. And several of Glenn's recent cases, they were consolidated. So he ended up pleading no contest to several charges, aggravated assault on law enforcement with a deadly weapon, his car, fleeing at a high speed, exposure of sexual organs, battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting an officer without violence. He was sentenced in February to two years in prison.

All right, moving on. We're going to end today with what is a very odd situation out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. So police initially stopped a driver because his truck was speeding and weaving all over the road. The officer suspected that he had a DUI on his hands, but when he looked inside the car, he found, get this? six teenagers. Hey there. Hello. How are you?

All right. Just all right? Yeah. Okay. Should your job license? Yeah. I did. I'm sorry.

I thought you're going to crash. No, I don't know. I didn't say, I don't think so. I'm saying I thought you were going to crash. Okay, and then you have a bunch of kids and then the car. How many kids? You have one, two, three, four, five, six. Who are these kids to you?

This is my friend. That's your friend? Yeah. How is your friend? 18. I don't know. That girl's not 18? Huh?

That girl's not 18? Yeah. No, she's not. No, she is. That girl's not 18. Trust me. She don't look 18. Ma'am, held are you?

Me. I'd ask you your name. I actually held you her. Jeremy, just turn the car up and come back and talk to me. All right. All those people in the car. Who are they? They're just my friends.

I mean... Do you normally hang out with people who are young? Not... Not... How old are you? I'm 41. 41 okay hang time right there okay yeah i mean you'll notice that uh kind of can barely form full sentences to answer the questions and he's trying to say as little as possible yeah because he's

nervous he knows he's in trouble and you know it seems that there was well it doesn't seem that there was any you know sexual impropriety going on per se he does have six teenagers in the car with him late at night allegedly been drinking heavily his fly is down on his jeans and police would police would come to learn later on that guthrie was accused of raping one of the 12-year-old girls in that car and her twin, allegedly impregnating one of them before she miscarried. So absolutely horrific. Well, yeah, and you can't make this thing up.

And thank God these law enforcement officers were on the job that night and picked up on this. I mean, because what's he going to do with these kids? Nothing good. He's already assaulted two of them, impregnated one of them. I mean, this gets into the level of human trafficking, Jesse. This is a whole different crime now. And by the way, it always makes me feel like police, they don't know what they're walking into.

They don't. And again, this is why we need to respect what is a very dangerous job. You know, again, we expect a lot of our police officers, we expect them to be social workers, we expect them to be a therapist, we expect them to be superhuman and protect us. And not every one of them is perfect, just like not every human being in our business is perfect.

But the vast majority go out, every night and put their life on the line to do things like that. And those are six kids who will not be sexually assaulted by this creep because somebody was paying attention that night in law enforcement. And that officer lets the passengers know that their guardians are going to have to come get them. He's pretty stern and a little forceful. Take a listen. Right now, right now, you guys aren't in trouble right now. What's that? Okay, how old are you? 14? 14. Really 14? Okay. 14 okay okay 13 okay 14 okay who's this guy to anybody that's our oldies and then she knows his kid okay so that there's your homing

okay so you guys all need to call your parents yes sir okay okay now remember what I said he was kind of off with his words well another officer tried to put Guthrie through field sobriety tests but that went just about as well as you might expect yeah i had uh i had some beer you had some beer earlier how many of them um like three three what kind three beers okay chris before i get to you got to lay out some this so because guthrie is accused of committing so many crimes his court case history is a little bit complicated so guthrie was in the car with the children on july 5th 2022 a grand jury indicted him, indicted him on six counts of abuse of a child, aggravated DUI, some traffic offenses.

And since then, Guthrie entered a not guilty plea. There have been continuances and so on. And we now know that Guthrie is actually scheduled to attend a change of plea hearing tomorrow at the time of this recording on May 30th. Now, around the same time, July 2023, Guthrie was also charged in connection with the rape of the twin girls back in 2021. That case has already gone to trial. And in December, a jury found him guilty. of nine of 11 sex crimes that he was charged with, including criminal sexual penetration in the first degree of a child under 13, criminal sexual conduct. He's going to be sentenced in that case in August.

So it sounds like we're getting a really bad guy off the streets. It is a really bad guy. I mean, this guy would be in trouble just for driving around drunk with underage kids in a vehicle. I mean, that's bad enough. And when you combine the sexual assault, which is horrendous, and all these different things, and that's what we know about.

That's what prosecutors believe they can prove in this case. That's what law enforcement officers know about. And I also have to ask the question, where are the parents and why are 14-year-old kids driving around with this predator drunk in the middle of the night? It's a scary thing to think about, but really harrowing cases. I'm glad law enforcement was there to intervene in so many of these and sometimes citizens there to intervene. But we also know that we got Chris Hansen out there protecting us all. Our first guest in the brand new studio. Well, thank you for having me.

I'm honored, Jesse. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. And also just real quick, want to thank everybody for our team for putting this whole set together, getting Chris to come on here. Thank you so much, sir.

Really appreciate it. My pleasure, Jesse. Anytime, you know that. Awesome. All right, everybody. That's all we have for you here on Sidebar. Thank you so much for joining us. Please subscribe on Apple Podcast, Spotify, YouTube, wherever you get your podcast.

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