Law&Crime Sidebar - 5 Times ‘Sovereign Citizens’ Learned a Hard Lesson on Bodycam
Episode Date: June 3, 2024So-called “sovereign citizens” may believe they are above the law, but law enforcement officers across the country are dealing blows to their beliefs. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber has a ...look at five times cops taught “sovereigns” a lesson in law and order.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: If you’re ever injured in an accident, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. You can submit a claim in 8 clicks or less without having to leave your couch. To start your claim, visit: https://www.forthepeople.com/LCSidebarHOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael DeiningerScript Writing & Producing - Savannah WilliamsonGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You don't have any license plates on your vehicle.
I do have a private, I don't need a license plate.
You need a license plate not bought from eBay.
You don't have no jurisdiction over me.
You are on my earth.
And if I decide to do something about it, I can right now.
What you see here is a guy, it's got a screw loose.
But we tightened it up for you.
We are back with sovereign citizens.
Those interesting individuals who seem to believe the law doesn't apply to them, well, what happens when it does?
These are some memorable sovereign citizen arrests.
Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime.
I'm Jesse Weber.
Today we are talking about once again sovereign citizens.
Now, you'll likely remember one of the most famous cases that we covered here at Law and Crime Concerned, a sovereign citizen, Dorell Brooks Jr.
Now, remember, he was the man who drove an SUV into a Christmas parade in Wisconsin and then insisted on representing himself.
For the weeks-long trial, he was found guilty of all charges, sentenced to hundreds of years in prison, which he deserved because the evidence was absolutely horrific and damning against him.
But moving on, the sovereign citizen movement is a loose way of referring to a group of people who believe, for whatever reason, the U.S. laws do not apply to them.
One way we've seen this is the idea that the U.S. Constitution was changed from its original form, so the laws based on it are null and void.
basic idea is that there is a conspiracy afoot, that the government is illegitimate, that they don't
have authority over sovereign citizens. And we have seen this take the form of various justifications
and legal arguments. We did a sidebar about sovereign citizens in court, but it is not just
courtrooms where sovereign citizens think the laws do not apply to them. No, it is also out on the
open road, too. As the sovereign citizen movement has grown, law enforcement has had to deal with
more stops like the ones we're about to get into.
So with that, we're going to dive into our first body cam video, which manages to cover a lot
of the, or most of the common sovereign citizen beliefs.
And one thing to note as we go through these videos, sometimes the suspects don't outright
identify themselves as sovereign citizens, but they tend to use language in terms that
are consistent with that ideology.
So just keep that in mind as we go through all of this.
But now, talking sovereign citizens, one outset of that are the Moors, and they believe that in the 1700s, the United States and Morocco signed a treaty that grants certain people, seemingly immunity.
So with that, let's turn to our first case.
It is March of 2023 in Berea, Ohio.
An officer has pulled over this van because the license plate on the back just says private.
Hello.
Hello. How are we doing? I'm Officer Douglas, Korea, police.
The reason for a stop is you don't have a tag on your vehicle.
Right, it's not.
I don't contract with the state of Ohio.
Okay.
I'm a private national.
Okay, so you're a sovereign citizen thing?
Well, no, it's not a sovereign citizen.
Are you Moorish?
Yes, I am.
Okay.
Do you have your travel document or what do you have?
Okay.
Where do you stay at?
In O'Learia?
No, I don't.
Okay.
What's your current address?
I don't really.
I dossamio in Berea.
Okay.
Do you have anything with the VIN on the vehicle?
No, just...
No, just...
No, no.
Okay.
I do have all my information right here.
Okay.
Do you mind if I see that?
Yes.
And I also have my Morris...
Well, it should be right there, all right there.
Yeah, it's all right there.
Have you ever had an Ohio ID before?
I don't, I don't contact with the state of Ohio.
So have you ever had an Ohio D before?
No.
Okay, okay. All right, you want to go outside.
Yeah, this is a sovereign citizen. I don't know if you want to head up here. I'm sure they're going to request the boss at some point.
When the officer goes back to a squad car, you can catch a glimpse of what her seemingly her Moorish government ID card looks like.
And he tries to use the address on that car to find out more about this driver.
The woman has some paperwork that she believes might help.
Yes, ma'am.
Here's also my right to travel that's also notarized and it's notarized and it's filed with the state of Ohio.
It's an affidavit of my right to travel.
What is your first name?
Asada.
Okay.
And then your last name is Bay?
Yes, it is.
Okay.
You said 2-23 Run Street?
That's my address on there.
You can't just take that out of your pocket.
I'm not taking it.
I'm just holding it so my hands are free.
Oh, okay.
So what is that?
And I'm on my way somewhere that's very important.
Okay.
And you're kind of holding me up.
Okay.
And I also do have a fee schedule as well.
A fee schedule?
Yes.
What's that?
I don't know what that is.
It's a fee schedule for if I'm bothered in my private mode of travel.
So it's just a notice of a tent fee schedule.
So this is for any and everything that you may have going to pull me over for or anything that you may keep me on the side of the road for.
It's called a fee schedule?
Yes, it is a fee schedule.
Okay, can I take a look at the first off, sorry.
The first one on the fee schedule, yeah.
Okay, all right, let's just hang tight, okay?
Well, listen, what's up?
Can I have my ID back so I...
Yeah, you're welcome to.
So I can go.
You're not free to leave.
Why?
Because you're being detained.
Detained?
Yeah, the traffic stop, you're detained, you're not in handcuffs anything like that, but...
This is unlawful detainment.
It is not, okay?
It is unlawful detainment.
I know you believe it is, but I've done this plenty of times, okay?
Okay, well, I also have a right to travel in my private road of transportation.
May I see that?
It's my private mode of transportation.
Wait, I see that?
Here, you want to trade?
I'll give you this bad.
No, you cannot.
Oh, okay.
Well, just like I said, you're not free to go, okay?
So I just hang out for one second, all right?
Up chief.
Sovereign citizen.
Morish American.
I think I got a real info off of paper that she showed me.
She has a fee schedule for any time she's stopped by law enforcement and bother.
enforcement and bothered.
He scheduled?
Yeah, I don't know where are you on Sheldon?
Right across the fact.
Got her.
She scheduled.
So we should charge her in time?
No.
She charges us.
She charges us.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Interesting.
I hope she has a license or something valid.
I'm sure she doesn't.
She doesn't.
She doesn't.
no business with the state of Ohio, but she has allegedly an affidavit signed by the state of Ohio
saying that she's a lot of travel.
Did you show it to you?
I mean, yeah, kind of.
Who made it?
I don't know.
We got like four deep dust.
It probably looks bad.
I was going to keep calling, but nobody else got here.
So I'm like, well, I don't know what he's sitting here.
I just figured I've dealt with sovereign citizens before.
And that's what I asked her.
I was like, oh, are you Morish American?
The officer is able to confirm that the driver used to go by the name Dominique Camel.
and now that he has her name, his computer starts sending alerts.
Suspended license.
Suspended license.
Yeah, but you're still going to identify yourself as the problem,
and that's where the hook will be.
It's usually where these things go south.
Yeah, which, I mean, we dealt with it in Cleveland,
and usually everyone's fine until they have the automatic fingerprint at county.
Yeah.
So they would not identify, and then we'd get down there,
and they would read the fingerprints and give us their name.
has that but i mean it's it's such a like and that's the problem so it's going to be fun just give me like i just
i just want yeah you said i'm sorry we are just a measure of operation about like this is possible
okay all right ma'am you said i'm sorry is that aliria okay all right all right all right what was your name
before is Bay. My name is Asada, L Star Bay. That's all the old name does not matter. So this is,
this is my name, and this is, this is filed with the Morris National Network. But that's not
the state of Ohio. It's not a law enforcement. Right. And I'm talking about Supreme Court law. I'm
not talking about the state of Ohio. Supreme Court law. I am a Morris National. And this is
my travel card. I went through all the proper steps to get my travel card. I went through all the proper steps to
get my travel card. I went through all the proper steps to put everybody on notice, and this is
what it is. So that's not a driver's license, okay? It is my right to try. I don't have a driver's
license because I do not contract with the state of Ohio for a driver's license. I do have a right
to travel in my private mode of travel, and this is my private mode of travel. I'm not trying to
be difficult. I'm just letting you know, I have a right to be private. I live in the private,
and this is how I can conduct my affairs. I don't contract with the state of
with the driver's license. I don't contract with the state of Ohio for anything. I have a right to contract how I want because I live in the private. This is my travel part and this is my Moores American national name.
So you don't drive on any public streets or anything like that?
I'm not conducting commerce. I'm not for hire. I'm not for any of that. So I'm not conducting commerce on any public highways.
I'm not doing any type of business. I'm going from point A to point B.
to point B in my private mode of travel, and I'm not conducting any type of business.
I'm not conducting any commerce that would need me to have a driver's license, and I have not
committed a crime.
You have committed a crime?
I have not committed a crime.
You don't have any license plates on your vehicle.
I do have a, I have a private, I don't need a license plate on my vehicle.
You need a license plate not bought from eBay on your vehicle.
You need to be registered in the state.
Oh, no, this came from the Morse National Network when it came with my ID.
It's a private, what they have on eBay is not my business.
this is not my concern. But this is a private vehicle. I'm not for hire. I'm not for contract. And I'm not conducting any type of commerce, sir.
I understand that you fully believe in all this. Okay? I respect that.
No, I know. I know. It's not what I believe in. It's what I know. I know. I know that the Supreme Court law states that I have a right to travel just like I'm traveling.
Supreme Court law says that. Not me. I didn't say it. I didn't make it up. This is Supreme Court law.
I have it right here in my thing. It's Supreme Court law. It's not something that I made up. It's just the Supreme Court law.
Okay. And I fully understand that you believe that.
No, it isn't what I believe. It's what the Supreme Court law states.
Ma'am, I'm telling you...
Okay, could you call your sergeant, please?
Ma'am, I'm the Chief of the Police.
Okay, well, are you the sergeant?
I'm the Chief of Police with my department. I'm the head of the agency.
Okay. Where's the sergeant?
I would be above the service.
Oh, okay.
So that's why I came over here to try and hovers my law.
Like, I think he settled as easy as possible.
Yeah, that's right.
We're pretty involved.
That's why I'm going to go up here.
I'm going to have a conversation with you.
Okay.
I'm a student of this.
I love to hear this time.
Okay.
Okay.
While we're at, though,
right, but I'm not abducting commerce.
I have it right here.
And I know what you've been about,
friends I've seen it.
Unfortunately, that's not the context of the law.
While this spirited debate continues, the officer jots down the car's vinn.
And that's, you don't have.
have a right to do that.
Do what?
To write anything down that has anything to do with my vehicle.
Okay.
You do now?
No, you do.
I know my right.
You know what I?
Okay, and I also know my right.
You guys are a public service.
You guys are a public service.
We're here to serve the public.
I'm not, I didn't call you, I didn't ask you, you have your light toward behind me.
You're supposed to use your license.
This is not an emergency.
Well, why can't you?
accept my Morse National ID and keep me, let me go.
Because it was not issued by recognized by my state.
But this is, we are our own government.
We have our own Morris National government.
Yes, we do.
Okay, but.
But if it's not recognized by the state of Ohio
in the United States government.
It is recognized by, it is recognized,
it's definitely recognized by the Department of Justice.
Well, we have, we have, we, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We have a, right here, we have a Department of Justice
and it's all on the back.
Would you like to read it?
Who, uh, issue that?
Is that Moorish?
Yes, the government.
The Moorish National Government.
But the Department of Justice?
The Department of Lessons, we are for trying.
We do the Department.
We get briefs, so we know.
Right.
We try to have the best possible powers with
right.
Right.
So I guess with this officer, is just, if you can forget who you are,
and we know who you are.
I just told you who I was.
But, and that's why you asked you,
you had a previous name that I,
you didn't change your names all the time.
You didn't change your names over time?
What difference does my previous thing make?
Then if we know the are, then we feel comfortable,
say, okay, that person is just fine.
I'm not a murderer.
They didn't kill somebody.
Oh, no, I'm not a murderer.
I'm not saying you are, but I'm giving you a very extreme example.
Right.
Why is it?
I'm just a mother.
I'm a mother.
It might get something to eat.
And you're kind of interrupting what I was going in.
But I apologize.
So if you give us a measure of, I guess, cooperation.
I just cooperating.
I have.
And I have.
And I've never had any one.
issues like I do in Korea. I have the worst issues. It's the Korea Police Department. I feel like
at this point it's like a harassment type of. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about the people that work
for you or under you. At this point, I feel like it's harassment. I don't know if it's because
the color of my skin. I don't know if it's because I choose to live in the private because I have
a choice to live in the private. I respect you. You know, that's why I'm not trying to ask me.
We can do our business and we can let you go about your business.
I mean, I'm not understanding what else you...
Well, we need to verify who y'all.
Never had a license.
You don't do that.
And we are going to...
So you're threatening to take me to jail?
No, I'm not threatening.
I'm telling you.
For a non-violent crime, for a crime that haven't been demitted and committed.
Because I do have a fee schedule here.
Okay.
My fee schedule definitely says...
Okay.
And you can make those claims after the fact, but I don't want to get there.
Okay?
Hold on.
Where's unlawful detainment?
Or detainment, lawful detainment, because there's...
Oh, issue traffic citation 7,000 thousand.
Tryment for...
Excuse me?
Do you rather just have us an issue of traffic citation?
If you know you are, we'll issue a transportation, send you on your way, and you can go about trying to make a claim for that.
Okay.
claim for what?
For us?
Would you like to read this?
Because this is...
We're past that now.
I told you we're at this point.
I'm just asking some cooperation at this point.
I'm giving you cooperation.
But you're not.
You're giving me a lot of the more stuff which I totally, I respect it.
I love it.
I said I'm the student of people and humanity and that's why I'm trying to have this conversation with you.
But you're not really working with me at all.
Okay.
So I've told you what the book response is going to be.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
It's the last thing.
It seems like a very nice person.
You see your mother is sick.
I don't want to eat.
Chief Clark.
What's the name?
Officer Douglas.
Oh, I am.
I'm going to definitely file a lawsuit.
Okay.
Let me call you back, Lab.
Could you just provide your information before you got it switched over?
Could you just provide your name before you got to switch the bay to me?
to me you looked it up didn't i looked up bay yeah i were asking about the if you had
made before that no you did i saw it what i wrote down what did you wrote down your vinn and then
the birthday you provided me and then street did i see what you wrote down what is your name is it
was it the dominique was that your old first name so if you can't just run dominique there's a million
Dominique's in Ohio.
But if you know that, why are you sitting here trying to play me like I'm stupid?
I don't know your last name.
You got the VIN number, don't you?
But if it's never been registered to you, it will never come back to a license plate.
It doesn't, because I got...
If it's never been registered you in the state of Ohio, it's never going to come back
to a state of Ohio license plate, and therefore it won't be registered to you or anyone else.
Does that make sense?
Can you tell us if it was registered here?
No, it was registered here.
In Ohio or through the Amora station?
No, it was registered here.
And I bought it because I had to register it here when I bought it.
Do they give you a temporary tag?
Yes, and it expired.
Okay.
And once it expired, I never got anything else because I do not contract with the state of Ohio to get a license.
Okay.
I'm not trying to be difficult.
This is just what I'm, you know, this is who I am.
I don't go by the old name anymore.
I'm not a murderer.
I'm not a killer.
I'm just a mother who's trying to go get some groceries for her six children.
That's it.
The officer then does another check of Camel's information, and it becomes time to decide, what are we going to do here?
Hey, Chief.
Not valid, but no one's.
Not valid?
Yes.
Okay.
Send her underway.
Cool.
You go with that?
Yep.
all right ma'am so he was able to find you what will you provide me a good phone number
for you uh you don't have to it's totally optional okay yeah all right so I'm giving
you a ticket okay I'm saying in advising city of Bree is advising you have to go to court
for the ticket okay now you can go to court with all your documents I'm with the
like that, you can prove your case, you can file the fees that you'd like against us and
then to the court, okay? I just have to advise you that you have to appear in court, okay?
Your court date will be March 24th and 9 in the morning in Berea.
By signing it, you're not admitting guilt. Oh, I'm not signing it.
Okay, all right.
there is the court date at the top on the inside there's also a phone number and a
website on the back okay directly to the court okay is I speaking with I wish
it was under better oh it's fine it's fine I was gonna talk to you too but I'm gonna
come up there and possibly soon give you all this information if it's okay you
can drop off understand I don't have the right to tell you you can travel
without no no it's not about me me giving me a right to travel it's about me
giving you the information that we are on file with the Department of Justice so you can see that we are recognized with the United States.
But I guess just letting you know that if I don't respond for my doesn't mean I don't know. I'm going to bring it up to you personally.
But I'd like to see it.
No, I'm going to bring it to you personally.
And I'm going to show you that we are recognized with the Department of Justice, which is a United States branch of office or whatever.
And we are recognized.
And we also have a Department of Justice file number that we're under.
So I just want you to see that we are recognizing this isn't just a load of BS.
No, I'm not.
I'm respecting you.
I just, we have to work within the conference.
Oh, no, it's fine.
It's fine.
I just wanted to let you know that.
I appreciate it.
Again, I wish I had been able to talk to you under different types of terms.
It's okay.
Because, again, I'm fascinated by all this.
Right.
You also have a right to live in a private as well.
I didn't, I didn't know.
Is your copy yourself?
Thank you.
Yeah.
It's true your friendship and peace.
Let me buy you back to Jack up.
All right. Well, thank you. You guys have a blessed day.
Thank you as well. Drive safely.
That seemed pretty cordial overall, right? Well, that's not quite the case with what happened next,
because now we're going to fast forward six months later.
And Camel's next interaction with the same officer, by the way, didn't go as smoothly.
We come into this body cam footage when the officer already has Camel and handcuffs outside
out of a U.S. Post Office in September.
Apparently, she never went to court for those previous citations.
Let me lock my door.
Okay, hold on.
What's wrong with you?
Just grabbing on me like that.
Okay.
Look, can I lock these things on turn up on you?
Oh, give me my phone.
Oh, hell no.
I have to call my mother.
Okay.
You never got a plate for the car either, right?
No, and I'm not, it's not registered.
It's not registered.
You're not driving, you're traveling, same thing as last time.
I'm traveling, yes, you know that.
Okay.
You know that.
Okay.
You can't have stuff in the backseat, okay?
This is mine.
Okay, I'm not going anywhere with it.
Just can't have it on.
you. Simple as that.
Okay?
So I can't have my debit part either?
Yes, no, I can get everything for you.
You just can't have it in the back seat.
Why can I have my keys?
Because you can't have anything.
Okay, but I don't want you touching my keys.
That's fine, but you can't have it.
Okay, but I need to call my mom to come pick me up.
When you're not getting picked up, you're in jail.
Okay, but I can still get out.
Yeah. Okay, so I need her to come pick me up.
Okay, and we can make that arrangement when it gets there, okay.
Ma'am, you never laughed, okay?
No, you need to get the fuck awesome.
Okay.
Okay.
You know, well, I ain't need y'all.
Well, I ain't in your jurisdiction.
You just want to...
Jurisdiction.
What jurisdiction do we have?
I'm not in your jurisdiction.
Are you in the city of Rio?
You're not even supposed to be touching me.
You're in the city of Rio.
The officer double checks the VIN to make sure this is, in fact, the car that he stopped six months ago.
Turns out she still has the private license plate in her back window.
I stopped her.
I stopped.
All right.
Four.
Same.
Now, when he takes a look inside her vehicle, the officer is once again able to confirm her name as Dominique Camel, when he seemingly finds it on a bottle of medical marijuana.
And he makes an interesting observation.
Can't have a license, a sovereign citizen, but get a weed card.
She's sovereign, but she has enough of Ohio ID to get a medical marijuana card, the medical marijuana.
You can't talk to those people.
They just drag you into a circle of .
I don't know what she's...
Whatever.
I'm not a sovereign city.
He just said you were.
I'm sovereign.
Okay.
She's able to use our currency as the United States.
You know, she's got cash.
She's got, you know...
So it's just a ring of insanity.
So...
All right, well...
She tried pulling away from me when I copped out.
As soon as I got behind her, she came running on.
She's using the United States mail system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, driving on her a couple of roads.
I'm going to be nice.
I'm going to go mail that for.
Okay.
And then I'm going to provide her for obstructing, resisting, and a bunch of traffic.
As the arresting officer works on his paperwork, Camel appears to be lecturing one of his colleagues.
I don't think I'm free.
I don't have that.
You just do nobody.
You put your pants on just like, I put my pants for you.
You ain't no better than me.
And I don't, I don't need.
I don't, it is not about mercy.
I have a right to be who I am.
I have a right to do.
Listen, I don't care about your opinion.
Your opinion's on.
How about that?
I just see who I want to be.
I don't have, I have a right to choose how I want to live.
I can't nobody tell me how to live.
Can't nobody tell me who to be?
Can't nobody to prove anything.
It's not hurting him and I'm not hurting anybody else.
You've got to be how I want to live.
And you're not God, you can't tell me what to do, and you can't tell nobody else what to do.
Y'all put on them uniforms and they make you feel like you got a position of power, like you can treat people like
but that's not the case.
Because soon as you walked up to me, you were rude.
You didn't come up to me and say, hey, ma'am, you know, what's going on to that?
You came up to me on some bullshit because you thought you had in your mind that I was a certain kind of person or a certain kind of way off top.
But you don't know me.
I'm not sick of a thing.
I'm the only child.
My mother has, and I choose to live how I choose to live.
I'm not hurting you.
I'm not committing no crimes.
I didn't feel nothing to nobody.
I didn't run nobody over.
I didn't, I'm not dealing no drugs.
Okay, I got a warrant.
It's for a traffic ticket.
Traffic word.
When did I hurt anybody?
Where's the victim?
Where's the victim?
There is a victim?
There is a victim.
no victim you do you know everything else you know this ain't good work you know everything else so where's the
victim is we're the victim in the time so what happened well campbell had a jury trial scheduled for may
24 but it is our understanding the state ended up dropping the charges and everybody so i want to
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Next up, we're in North Tonawanda, New York in May of 2023.
and a police officer is arriving to assist with a stop that's already in progress.
According to his fellow officer, the driver of a blue rental car allegedly blew right through a stop sign.
What's up?
Hey, David.
Hey.
Tell you who he is yet?
What's that?
Tell you who he is yet?
It's not.
All right.
Let's take him out and bring him back so we didn't identify him.
I was just trying to see if we had anything on there so I could at least come up and already have his information, but it's a rental car.
Yep.
No idea who it is?
No, I've never even seen this guy before.
We're right through the stop sign, but he is not, uh, he said he doesn't have to stick around.
Okay, well, I'm advising you legally, you have to stay here.
Yeah, he's detained.
That's right, since you're coming.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
Morning.
You got a rental car, brother.
You gotta have a contract for it, right?
contract for a right of the driver's license, I need to see that place.
Senator T-196-207 status check.
We're 10-4.
Pardon.
I'll give you a little bit of insight.
My uncle was first sergeant military place.
Okay.
My cousin is a police officer in Genesee County.
Okay.
Who is in Genesee County?
That would be...
Morgan.
Morgan.
Yeah.
He's in May.
So anyway, I also have had Federal Security Clarence of High Security Public Trust, right?
So I'm all about Constitution.
Okay.
So I need you as a public servant because am I a public servant or are you the public servant?
So you're correct, I'm the public servant.
Good.
You have an oath to that Constitution.
Am I correct?
Yep.
What's the Tenth Amendment?
So I'm not going to get into that with you.
So you don't, no, no, no, no, no, da, da, da, da, da, da, do.
We're going to have you step out of the car.
You're not going to do anything.
All right, come on, sir.
Get out.
Yep.
We're going to remove out of the car.
So I'm going to record this again.
You're free to record.
You can record whatever you like.
I'm going to roll up the window.
Now you're going to replace you want to moment.
I'm going to have 203 start this way as well.
196 to 203 if you can end to this location.
Next step is I call 911 and I get spot here.
one and I get SWAT here.
We are SWAT.
We are SWAT.
Good.
Your instruction is at this point in time,
because if you're trying to demand anything out of me,
I need to identify you, sir.
I have no problem with giving you my license and what I'm doing is I'm ensuring you're
abiding by your oath to the Constitution.
So we need to see your driver's license and your vehicle registration?
You don't need to see anything from me because you are a public servant.
I have the right to travel under the Ninth Amendment.
I have right, First Amendment, right, freedom of exercise of religion.
Freedom of exercise of religion.
So what does it have to do with you committing a vehicle and traffic?
I'm going to clarify.
Stop interrupting me.
You're the public servant.
First Amendment.
Freedom of exercise of religion, right?
Does it state that clearly?
So what I don't understand, sir, is what does it have to do with you not stopping at a stop sign?
That's why I'm getting to.
Are you going to answer my question?
No, I need to see your driver's license and registration.
If you're not going to answer my question, then we're not.
Do you want to act like a public servant and answer my question or do I...
So what you're going to do is it's turn this from just a simple traffic stop.
So what I'm doing is I'm asserting my rights as a U.S. citizen and validating that you're not abiding by your oath to the Constitution.
So my job here today...
So your job here today is to enforce the law. Is that correct?
Correct, which you violated?
No. Because the first...
Which is the supreme law of the land? Marbury v. Madison, if a law is created that violates a constitutional standard, it is automatically null and void.
So, sir, is that correct? If you haven't opened to the Constitution, so that's what I'm getting to. Did you? What's the freedom of?
So if you don't understand, I'm free to educate you. Are you going to listen to it?
Sir, Pennsylvania versus MIMS. Sir, Pennsylvania versus MIMS says that we have the right to ask you out of the car.
You don't have any rights at First Amendment, separation of church and state.
That's Supreme Court case law.
Supreme Court case, Marbury v. Madison.
If a law is made that violates the constitutional standard, it's automatically null and void.
Sir, you can either give us your license or you have to step out of the vehicle.
That's your choice.
This man, who we now know is Richard Ewart, also goes by the name of O.
Obadiah, he posted this body cam footage on his own YouTube channel.
Take a look.
It's annoying, isn't it?
I'm here until time.
Yeah.
I've already fought a course case and all the time wander.
Just let you know, my head had it thrown out.
It was dismissed for the same principle I'm stating with you right now.
Okay.
So do you think you have the.
You violated vehicle and traffic law.
Which law is that?
1172A.
State law?
New York State vehicle and traffic law.
State Constitution refers to the U.S. Constitution as the U.S. Constitution.
It's the Supreme Law of the Land. Is that correct?
We're not doing this, sir.
If you're not doing it, then I'm not doing it.
Okay.
Calling 911.
County, just here advised this driver's calling 911.
Yes.
Yeah.
In Niagara County, 911, where's your emergency?
Yeah, I don't know where it exactly is.
What road are my on officers?
We're on Rui Road, sir.
Do we?
We're on Rui.
Rui?
Okay, I'll let you the officer explain.
Right now I have a couple police officers.
I'm trying to assert my rights under the Constitution,
First Amendment separation of church of state,
but states clearly in the First Amendment that the freedom of exercise of religion,
that freedom of exercise, if Congress can't pass the law, then they can't violate, the Judicial Department can't enforce the law, that's Supreme Law of the land.
I'm asserting that with these officers that are pulling me over for a traffic violation, which is state law.
And on the federal level, they refuse to abide by their oath of offices Constitution.
Now they're acting under the Tenth Amendment, which states clearly to the state or the people, it's not exclusive to.
So that said, they don't have any authority nor jurisdiction in this matter. Even if I did go through a stop sign, there's nobody that was hurt or injured, which doesn't make it a crime. And since I follow common law, which is five of ten commandments, no murder, no stuff, no coveting, no bearing, false witness, and no adultery. They are currently committing an insurrection. Well, I don't know if I did or not. That's what they're proclaiming, but state law doesn't supersede.
federal law. Federal law, First and Tenth Amendment, as well as the Ninth Amendment,
apply here in their violin rules of the Constitution, which in turn would make them
insurrectionists. Now, I have police officers in my family and what have you.
Sir, my name is Richard E.R.T. Driver's license, U.R.T. And just for fun, because I don't have
any problem with giving them my license. I'm just kind of asserting my rights at the moment.
Do you have an emergency?
The emergency is these cops are violating my constitutional rights and they refuse to leave.
Well, there are a lieutenant on the way over to speak with you.
You can speak with the lieutenant when he gets there.
But unfortunately right now you're tying up an emergency line for somebody that could be in cardiac arrest
or having trouble breathing or having chestings.
Well, they did try to say that I have to step out of the vehicle and they're trying to demand things on me.
We're acting like they have the authority when they're public service.
you can speak with the lieutenant when he gets there, okay?
All righty.
Thank you.
Okay.
You're welcome.
We could have gone a whole different route over this other than...
Exactly.
And I just wanted to ask me questions, and I didn't refuse to answer.
It is my job.
I was super cordial to you.
I came up to you.
It doesn't make a difference.
Again, you're the public servant, right?
Correct.
So if I ask your question, if you wanted to keep cordial and everything,
you would have answered the question.
Right, but you're not even identifying who you were to me.
I don't have to identify you.
You do though, because you're driving on a New York State roadway.
You need to produce...
It has nothing to do with it.
You can speak with my supervisor.
I'm the supervisor.
Okay.
It's New York State law.
This is the traffic center.
Identify yourself or you're going to be arrested for obstruction in a misdemeanor.
All right.
You have an ultimate constitution, is that correct?
Yes.
Here we go.
It's time to get out of the car and identify yourself.
So if you go and do what you're doing,
do what you're doing, you're violating your old institution.
No.
Yes.
You're a detain right now.
You're accusing a committing on crime, a vehicle in traffic law.
You have to identify yourself.
It's basic when you're 16 years old to get your license.
I'm intent at 2.03.
You're going to identify yourself to these officers right now.
Why are you not identifying yourself?
I already did actually on the 911 call.
I give my driver's list this number and everything.
But as far as that's concerned,
Again, you have an oath to the Constitution.
Are you going to allow me to speak?
I'll clarify this for you.
Yep.
Are you going to identify yourself?
Are you going to allow me to clarify?
Yes, yes.
As the arguments continue to go in circles, the officers have finally had enough.
What I'm saying to you right now, because as much as you're trying to come at me,
keep in mind, I have the full legal right to remove Joe Biden from his office right now with the same context.
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
Do you know what here it is?
Do you know what year is?
Do you know what year does?
Okay.
Let me clarify this for you because if you want to have this kind of argument.
Do you proclaim December of the 12th month?
Over a year?
Yes.
Even though the word itself state literally means to come on us.
Sir, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's a mental health.
I want to help people too.
Is this a mental health issue or you?
That sounds like you do have one.
Because if you proclaims December to be the 12 month,
be the 12th month when it literally means it then.
Meets are probably not in your right mind.
Identify yourself to these police officers.
Right now, identify yourself.
To these police officers.
So are you doing an insurrection against people at the moment?
You're about to be removed from this vehicle.
Shut the car off.
Shut the car off.
Let's go right.
Ready?
Committed assault.
No, you tried to close the window on there.
I told you get out of the vehicle.
Taking multiple chances to identify yourself.
I told you quite often that your instructions and some people.
Do you have any weapons in the car?
No, now you're performing illegal search and fevers.
I'll least into the Fourth Amendment.
Uart was charged with obstruction of governmental administration and released on an appearance ticket.
He entered a not guilty plea, and the police contacted Hertz to sort out that whole mess about what to do with the rental car.
Now we go to Florida, where two residents ended up behind bars after law and four.
enforcement says an early morning traffic stop could have had deadly consequences.
This dashboard camera video is from December 2022, just a couple weeks before Christmas.
A Florida State Trooper has stopped this older model truck, which doesn't have a license
plate. He approaches the truck on the passenger's side to talk to the driver, but
drivers seemingly won't roll down the window. It is hard to hear some of the responses from the
driver identified as Samuel Doolin, but we are able to follow along based on what the
Trooper is saying.
Okay, open the door.
Open the door.
What's that?
I notice you don't have a tag on your vehicle.
Okay, if I need to talk to you, I'm going to open the door.
All right.
How is that illegal?
How is that?
Please tell me how that's illegal.
I don't see a tag on your vehicle, like I said.
What's that?
How do I know that?
That's why I'm stopping you to ask you about the vehicle.
That just means the vehicle can go under 25 miles an hour.
Okay, do you have your idea on you?
They continue to argue over identification,
until the trooper eventually goes over to check the truck's vent.
The list can go very smoothly.
You could have been out of here by now if you just show me your ID.
10. 13. 13.
10.4.
5.4.
Okay.
nope is your good number up here okay can you please move your stuff the trooper later reported that
he'd spotted a handgun inside the truck within the driver's reach so we went back to his
patrol car to wait for backup what's up let's talk back here the whole is going to do
All right, so obviously there's no town, right?
So I stopped to question him.
I go on this side, because that's why I do my stops.
And he didn't roll over and go down and did this.
It's like, no.
So I'll open his door up.
And it's like what you just did was illegal.
He said, no, it's not.
I'm trying to talk to you.
That's almost.
They didn't have attack attached to the car, right?
It's like, well, it's a farm vehicle.
You don't we see this stick the triangle?
It said, okay, well, let me get your identification.
meaning you get your identification. It's like, I have it, but I'm going to give it to you. And I can see a signal zero sitting in a console. All right, so.
Okay. That's cool. All right, so we're going to trick him out of the vehicle.
Yeah, he's not complying. We're going to have the vehicle.
The Polk County Sheriff's Office also responded and started blasting out commands through a megaphone.
right there passenger put your hands out of the car driver keep your right hand through the window
with your left hand open the door while duelin did put his hands up as asked he still refused to exit the
vehicle and that is when as you can imagine things escalated
Get out of the car
Go ahead.
Get out of the car.
Open the door,
Get out of the door.
Get out.
Open the door!
Open the door!
Get out of the car!
Get out of the car now!
Get out of the car now!
Open the door!
You are now.
Open the door.
Open the door, open the door.
Open the door!
Go on the ground.
Get on the ground.
I know.
I got his hands.
I'm pulled your way.
Hey, I'm just letting you know.
The man didn't talk to me.
They opened my door.
Grab it.
Get out of the car.
The man did not talk to me.
He opened my door.
He then called y'all.
You changed me.
You broke my window.
None of the shirt.
Don't have to talk to me.
Calm down.
I am.
I'm just talking loud.
Why is the sheriff's doing what a steak trooper told him without talking?
You did not even talk.
The state trooper came off the liquor, open the window, didn't talk.
You know, stella stuff.
That is the legal order.
It was not a lawful order.
The dash cam doesn't lie.
the trooper and Doolin went back and forth about ID several times.
Doolin asked to be put in a deputy's car instead of a troopers portedly because of his belief that since the sheriff is elected, he's an acceptable authority figure.
You're back there.
I'm not getting in the state troopers' car.
I'll need you're a search for a lot.
This is on y'all.
Not him.
This is how you're all.
Why not?
You don't get a choice.
Nope.
It's not.
You don't get a choice.
I know I don't do it.
Everything is that's up.
I'm not managed.
I'm just saying everything you're doing to be legal.
They're not even doing it's a professional.
Maybe you're talking.
You also notice that Doolan's girlfriend at the time,
was also pulled from the car though in a much calmer way when it comes time for her to be led away
dulin gets protective hey can we do something at least be polite to the lady she wasn't
leave belligerent yes she's not going to be arrested right
Clearing her back to your car for now.
Put her back to yours for now.
Just get in the car.
She's being detained right now.
Okay.
I thought this could be a nice easy stop.
he refused everything. I told him. I saw a weapon in the car. He said, yes, protective issue. I said, okay, we need to come out of the car and refuse to do it. So I just stayed back here. It's okay.
Well, as the sun starts to come up, law enforcement search Doolin's truck finding five firearms among them was a Glock 9 millimeter, which had been altered from semi-automatic to fully automatic.
and a rifle also altered to be an automatic weapon.
The rifle's barrel was also two inches shorter than is allowed by law.
During a news conference the next day,
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd answered questions about the arrests.
He had his girlfriend with him.
She got to be a part of this and even got some charges as a result.
She's Tiffany Bean.
So now you've got Samuel Doolin and Tiffany Beam in the vehicle.
we break the back window out of the pickup truck
he still refuses to get out of the vehicle
we immediately tased him
and once the taser struck him he became more compliant
we pulled him out of the vehicle and arrested him
here's what we learned
he wouldn't identify himself
he wouldn't get out of the vehicle
we saw a handgun
and when we ask him about all this
He said, well, you know, I'm kind of a sovereign, and I don't recognize state law enforcement.
They have no authority over me.
This was an illegal stop.
Only the elected sheriff has authority, law enforcement authority.
What he learned before the day was over that he was right.
The sheriff's office does have authority, and we appropriately charged him.
But he also learned the state troopers have authority as well because they charged him as
well we took him into custody tiffany immediately lost interest in wanting to resist any further so she
was simply arrested and taken into custody for resisting he says he has sovereign tendencies and
today he has jailhouse tendencies you know what i'm saying so that's our christmas present to him
early present when you don't obey the law we're going to lock you up merry christmas the sheriff revealed that
Doolin is the brother of Joshua Doolin, a Florida man sentenced to 18 months in prison for his role in the January 6 riots on Capitol Hill.
He also says Doolin told investigators he had been an army ranger who was dismissed from the military because he refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine.
Sheriff says, while Doolin put up his hands and never reached for his weapon, his possession of the illegally altered firearms was concerning.
As he picked up several felony criminal charges, what we know is he was not.
a felon before he wasn't a or he didn't have any criminal record before so he managed to
go from ostensibly a law-abiding citizen to pick him up a lot of serious felony charges that
he's now facing over simply not having a tag on his truck now come on man it doesn't
take rocket science to figure out in the state of Florida when everybody else
has got a tag on their car, you got to have one too. And if you don't, then we're going to
cite you and take the appropriate action. And as a result, he chose to do it the hard way.
We can do it the easy way or we can do it the hard way. The state of Florida is determined you
have to have a tag to operate your vehicle on public property. He ignored the law. He went to
in jail. Sheriff Judd mentioned that Doolin's fiance, Tiffany Beam, was also charged back in
December of 2022. In May 23, Beam, who had been assigned public defenders to represent her,
filed the notice of change to counsel. She wrote that Doolin would be representing her because
she did not think the appointed lawyers had, quote, the adequate time and mindset to properly
represent her. Doolin signed that document, pro se litigant. Doolin admitted to investigators that
he created, signed, filed the documents in question because her lawyers weren't doing their jobs.
He also admitted he is not a licensed attorney in the state of Florida.
Prosecutors dropped the charges against Beam in November 2023.
As for Doolin in January of 2024, he entered a no-contest plea to two counts of possession of a short-barreled gun, rifle or machine gun, and he was sentenced to one year in prison.
Next up, we're staying in Florida, but heading down to the Panhandle in Santa Rosa County, it's June 2022.
And that is where deputies stop this driver after allegedly punched a man in a McDonald's,
drive-through because the man didn't know how to drive?
Hey, how are you, man?
Hey, I'm definitely with the sheriff's office.
Were you guys just involved in an altercation of maybe a road rage incident with somebody?
Yeah, that's a road rage.
Okay.
All right.
Would you want to step out me real quick?
Just talk me so I can get your side story?
But I can talk to you right here.
I'm asking you to step out, okay?
So you can step out or I can help you out.
It's your choice.
Listen, you don't have to write to put your hands on me.
I'm talking to you.
Nobody's going to put me in.
I'm cooperating.
I'm talking.
Okay, and I'm asking you step up so I can talk to you.
I'm not going to step out of my vehicle for what?
Do you have your ID, sir?
I sure do.
Okay, let me see it, please.
Alright, let me get my video again.
Okay, get your video going.
So you want to tell me what's going on then?
I was turning from coming from the beach.
I was getting over in the left lane.
This f***s around me and cusses at me.
So I come over here to McDonald's and I tell him, I said, look,
you were behind me.
I want to follow me.
So that means you need to wait to see what I'm going to do before you try to speed around now.
He got in the far left lane, so I got in the far left lane behind him.
And I came over there and I asked him, I said, what was the purpose of you cussing at me?
And he started.
Okay.
Just that simple.
So he was behind me?
Because he's tossing at you, you punched him in the mouth.
and I'm gonna tell you why
it's because from here forward
y'all don't learn to respect
what we are on earth
that was uncalled for
I was I had I was in front of him
so that means that wherever I go
if it's behind me
I decide where I'm gonna go
I was getting in the lane
the left the only left lane
that was open
to get to the far left lane
that lane wasn't even open yet
just to get the fucking McDonald
and came beside us
and you saw the cussing out
I was like I came over here to the lot
and I asked him
I said, what was the purpose of you cussing at me?
And I said, you're gonna look.
Where was he standing when you punched him?
Was he like at your window?
He was sitting in his car right here.
I walked over to the car and I asked him.
I said, look, what was the purpose of you cussing at me?
You were behind me and you had to wait until I moved.
And whatever I did, you decide what you're going to do after that.
He started cussing.
He said, well, you're going to learn how to drive.
I said, well, you're going to learn how to respect what I am on earth.
And what I stand for on earth right now, y'all better stop messing with us.
Y'all better stop messing with us.
with us. That guy, he got judged today. And if you knew who I was, you would know why he got
judged. And if you knew that he was into, before this incident, this day, everything happens
for a reason. Nothing is supposed to do. Somebody out with him over there? Everything happens for a
reason. And y'all need to stop getting involved in people's personal business because all that
does is just create more situations where people don't have to take responsibility for the
they do. You understand when you make contact with somebody is considered a battery.
So we got the call, so we have to investigate it.
That's what we're here to do.
Look, he verbally abused me, so that's battling.
Okay.
Okay.
Would you write a statement on, say, away now?
Listen, I'm not getting involved with y'all.
We handle that ourselves.
We're too grown men.
We don't need to be police.
We don't need to be controlled.
We are not in preschool.
We are two grown men.
I appreciate my business like I was supposed to.
I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but he has a different opinion.
Okay.
And as a man, we can have that.
Okay. And whatever his opinion is,
If he wants to write down stuff with y'all, then he can't.
I don't have to do that.
I'm not getting involved with y'all.
I'm telling me what you want to know.
Okay.
I'm cooperated with you, but I'm not getting out of my car.
Okay.
I'm not writing nothing down.
All I had to do was deal with him.
That was my problem.
I dealt with him.
And that's it.
Deputies find out later that the man's name is Daryl Reynolds.
But he doesn't plan on telling them that right now or really seemingly cooperating in any way.
I'm camping.
My son and I retired and we came down here for peace.
You retired military?
I was in the military, but I retired.
What branch of the military?
Navy.
Navy?
Well, thank you for your service.
Thank you.
How many years you spent in the Navy?
I was in two years, and I ran a business.
I ran several businesses.
Okay.
I had a commercial cleaning business and a landscape and long care business.
Okay.
So I can form a spiritual journey.
Okay.
This is the type of that I'm dealing with.
I got nothing against your spiritual journey, man.
I deal with all this stuff.
I dealt with the problem.
I already fixed that.
He ain't man enough to do that.
for his self, that's his problem.
Okay.
If he wants to run around cussing at people and being mad at people because he can't,
that little baby can't have his way, then he gets where he is.
Okay.
Well, that's not always the way the law is it, though.
You understand that, right?
Let me tell you something about your law.
If you go back and actually study your law, none of these laws actually, they have expired.
The statute of limitations on all American laws have already expired.
Go ahead.
20 years from 1776.
And furthermore, how are we as citizens on land operating in maritime law?
Okay.
Let me go ahead and you step out of the vehicle for me.
I'm not getting out of my...
What did I do?
What did I do?
Can I get your name?
I told you my idea.
He's got my idea.
This is what we're going to do.
We're going to get you out of the car.
We're going to talk to them, get his side of the story.
Why do I got to get out of my car?
Let's talk to him.
Look, I'm not going to because you guys are.
going too far with this.
No, sir.
Going too far.
I am not doing these things.
I'm trying to be cordial.
We're trying to expect you to be cordial.
What you want to do is control me.
I'm not going to let you do that.
Listen, I'm going to sit right here.
I am talking to both of you like you are.
Yes, sir.
He verbally abused me.
That's against the law.
Okay?
It's against my law for me to be talked to like he talked to me.
I understand.
And I follow universal law, which trumps all this mess that y'all got going on here.
So, like I said, you don't have no jurisdiction over me.
You are on.
my earth and if i decide to do something about it i can right now look at this you need to understand
what this is i understand and you need to understand who i am you need to understand that i have a power
that i can do right now on both of you if you don't stop messing with you i'm not you're not you
i'm not you are threatening me you're asking by law i can do this well by my law i have the right
to do we're asking this we're asking you please make it easier on everybody we get this
Why do I have to do, why don't I have to get out of my vehicle?
I'm not, if I'm in my vehicle, you're safe.
Everybody's safe.
You're asking a crime that possibly you committed.
Okay.
Okay, yes.
So we're investigating this.
So we need you to step out, okay?
Is this your son back here?
Yes, it is.
He's being completely cordial.
Everything's being good, okay?
He's fine.
Why won't y'all let him get him?
But there's no reason.
We're trying to get you out.
We're not going to let him get out.
Why do you get out?
If I'm not under risk, why do I need to get out?
Because there's a possibility of you being under arrest.
Why do y'all have to regress me?
For committing batteries, sir.
But we have to investigate that.
And you're doing the way you're doing it is making it more difficult for us.
More difficult than you're here on vacation.
We're just trying to work away through it, okay?
Listen, guys.
There's no listening.
Just be cordial, step out of the vehicle, and let's figure this out.
One thing, I want y'all to understand this.
I don't, I'm not going to jail over something that pet.
If two men in the street can't handle their business,
if he's picking up to run his mouth to anybody he runs into
and can just say whatever he wants to say out of his mouth,
there's consequences for that, okay?
He's suffered the consequences.
And if y'all get in the way of his judgment, you bring it on yourself.
And I'll get out.
I'll tell you that.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
It's bringing it on yourself because you're getting involved in.
Now Reynolds agrees to get out of the car,
but bristles when the deputies try to arrest him.
His son Cameron even gets involved,
and the deputies threatened to tase him.
Look, look, you don't have to do all of that.
Keep your hands behind your back.
This is why y'all, this is fucking.
Okay, back up.
Back up.
Go ahead and tase him.
Put your hands behind your back right now.
Put your hands behind your back.
Don't you tense up on me or we're going to the ground.
Do you understand?
I got it.
I've been listening to distance.
Y'all just messed up for you, sir.
I didn't touch either one of y'all.
Listen, we gave you the opportunity to go nice and peacefully.
You want to resist, you want to pull away, this is what happened.
I didn't not pull away from you.
You absolutely did.
Now you're catching an additional charge.
You're going to be placed on the rest for battery day as well as resist officer.
You'll understand that.
Got it.
Pushing me over now?
Go ahead and search him.
For what? I don't have any...
You're going to jail.
Okay.
So, you're getting searched.
For what? I don't have pocket.
It doesn't matter.
It clearly does.
Stand up against the car.
Don't move.
Or what?
Or what?
I'm genuinely asking, or what?
Have a seat.
When it comes to your soul, I hope you know it's mine.
Okay, great, fantastic.
Search is rocked is like that small weed in here.
Yeah, you can't believe you just, we were trying to be.
I try to talk him out of it, you see?
I tried.
You're hell of patient, man.
Yeah.
I don't want him to step out, boge yet.
Yeah. You got knives all in there.
You got knives all in here.
Hey, Sarge. I'm going to check his.
Let's make sure they're all double locked up.
He says one of them's too tight, so you wouldn't mind.
All right. Thank you. I appreciate you. Just around to me. Let me double check it for you.
All right. Which one's tight one? He said? This one. All right.
I'm going to let it come back a couple clicks. Is that better?
All right. And let me double check this one. How's that one for you? That one all right?
Okay, okay.
Okay.
Hold time me one second, all right? Is that better?
Okay.
He wasn't getting out car. He wasn't doing this.
He wasn't doing to buy our laws.
He saw him.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You want to put Junior in here with me?
Yep.
23-2-17.
He's probably molding this one to be the same.
How about Ryan said out home?
Where are they going?
We're going to Las Vegas.
All right, you all right, search him down?
Yep.
All right, I'm going to check him a real one quick.
Anyone's bolt sticking stabbing?
What?
Anything sharp?
Don't poke and stick and stabbing?
No.
All right.
We'll walk over here to the driver's side of the car, okay?
I'll follow you, my man.
You're about six by, I'm six, six, six.
All right, slide on in for me right there, okay?
I know it's going to be a tight fit because you're taller.
I apologize for the fit.
I know it's not because you're taller.
All right, C-belt's optional.
You want C-Bow to know?
How about you, sir?
C-Bone or no.
Okay, all right.
Sit back with me.
All right.
They're going on a spiritual journey.
With Reynolds and his son in custody, another deputy checks in with the victim.
What's up, man?
I was turning in to go get somebody.
I went to go turn off the bridge to take the right.
Right.
This guy cut me off.
I tried to go around him, get away from him.
He followed me here. I turned it here.
Use my blinkers the whole time.
And I noticed he was using his blinkers the whole time.
He followed me.
I went through the drive-thru. I was going to get some deep.
He got on the other side and said, I'm going to teach you some manners, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm going to get you.
I'm going to try right here.
And proceed to get out of his vehicle.
and just did you ever get out of your car okay okay you got your ID on you do you want to
pursue charges on him for battery oh we've got him he can't do this to peter now it seems that
because the witness said Reynolds reached into the car to punch him Reynolds was charged with
burglary with battery as well as resisting an officer without violence he was released on bond
But he got in trouble with Florida Fish and Wildlife Officers because he apparently, him and his son,
were using a local campground as a home overstaying the seven-day maximum.
After his court appearance on that citation, he was required to stay in contact with the bond agency if he was going to remain free, but apparently he didn't.
So the judge revoked his bond.
He reportedly has been locked up since February of 2023, slowly working his way towards trial.
We're going to end this in Eustace, Florida, near the.
middle of the state it's december 22 and an officer has pulled over a truck at a dollar general
hi i'm sergeant brown use the PD reason i stopped because you're not wearing your seatbelt
give your license registration you ma'am i'm sorry is that i'm sorry i'm sorry i just took my seatbelt off
you didn't have her own yes i did yes i did you're gonna have to i just took it off i
wear my seatbelt actually i i yell at everybody for not wearing their seatbelt outstanding
Your license on you, ma'am?
Um, I'm not gonna do this this morning.
Dude, we're not from here.
I know you guys from Michigan, I saw the tag.
Yeah, so I'm not-
Passport.
I'll give you my passport.
Okay, that's fine.
Whatever you got?
But I'm not, I'm not doing this traffic thing.
I'm in Homeland Security School, Brown.
Okay.
I'm not gonna mess up your career, so.
Do you have your passport on you or some sort of ID?
I left it at the fucking hells.
It's not even on me.
Okay, no worries.
You got mine.
He's got his.
Okay.
I'm on my way to church right now.
Okay.
It's insane.
I took my seat blood off.
You see?
I told you.
Thanks, man.
Yep.
Do you actually have a deal?
What do you mean?
I don't need a driver's license in America, actually.
I've already won this in court.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
31.
All right, let me verify it.
8, 8, 9, India, 5.
I'm sorry?
This isn't.
This is my jurisdiction, actually, yes.
Stand by, is this.
And what seemed like a basic traffic stop starts to become a little more complicated.
What's your first name, ma'am?
Ma'am, what's your first name?
What?
Your first name?
But I'm trying to figure out what crime I committed for you to ask me that.
Not wearing your seatbelt, ma'am.
That's not a crime.
It's a traffic violation, ma'am.
It's actually a civil infraction.
Which I can pull you over for, yes.
No, I was wearing my seatbelt, though.
We're having a dispute here.
I was wearing it, and you're saying it wasn't.
We're having a dispute here.
So you can't tell me I was wearing, I was not wearing it.
Can you settle down for a second here?
Here's actually going to play out.
I'm going to verify everything, and I'm just going to cut you a traffic warning and be on my merry way.
That was my whole plan, just to be honest with you.
Not to get to a long, drawn argument about whatever.
This is not to be a pissing match, to piss you off, to be mean, to be evil, all that good stuff.
I am going to be as chill as possible.
There is no need to be, like, mad today.
The driver continues to insist she was buckled up the entire time.
I definitely 100% under God's graceful eye.
Okay.
He's wearing a seatbelt.
Okay.
Listen to me.
My game plan is very simple.
I am just going to verify that you have a license or whatever that says you can drive in the state of the United States.
Once that's clean and valid, I'm out of here.
That is my plan.
Okay.
This is not...
Morning, ma'amara, how you doing?
Can you give me, like, one minute?
Oh, yeah?
Give me one minute, Mama.
All right.
What's your first name, Mama?
It's Dixie.
Dixie.
Miss Dixie.
Yes.
You got a mill name, Miss Dixie?
I don't.
Okay.
What's your last name?
Williams.
Okay, and your birthday?
It's in August.
Wow, I cannot wait to tell my professor this.
Okay, in the year?
We have to do all this.
Yeah, because I don't have her DL or a passport.
I don't need a DL, but I just told you that.
I wanted it in the Supreme Court.
Right.
Don't have to have a separate, I don't have to verify your identity.
Yes, you do.
No, I don't.
Okay, whatever you say, but I need, what's your, what's your, uh, deborne?
Okay, so this is Dixie Williams and Ms. Williams hands the officer a prescription bottle,
which she says can help prove her identity.
After finally getting the information, the officer searches for more details about Williams,
her passenger and the truck.
You don't have your license suspended out of, yeah, out of Florida.
Cancel.
Cancel, whatever you want to call it.
Well, when you sign an affidavit of cancellation, that means you're canceling a contract
with the department of vehicles.
A lot of vehicles.
Can't find you.
And we can't even find the truck.
It's like, it's not even registered.
So I'm going to run the van real quick.
Yeah.
I mean, we have access from, we have access from, we have access in the database of all the
states, but I'm going to run the van and see what we get.
That's where we're at.
Another officer on scene has an idea about what might be going on here.
I think you're right, man. I think this might be sovereign citizens, homie.
They are.
Yeah, this is strange, dude, all day.
Miss Dixie.
Can I talk to you about the problem?
Okay.
Yeah, we're not finding it at all.
Well, I don't know what to tell you. They're on a paper system.
Okay.
I'll talk to you over here then real quick.
Um, it's the definition.
Hold on, do you have my driver, or do you have my...
We have your passport, ma'am.
But my passport ID?
I have his...
We have his.
Did it fall out of there?
Because it's an electronic card.
And what is this guy talking about?
A passport isn't an identity.
His total identification is not a form for a licensed operator.
Yeah, but we're not a resident of the state of Florida.
You still have a license operator of vehicle in the state of Florida.
Okay.
As the officer wearing the body cam stays at the truck to talk to William's husband,
you can overhear Williams becoming heated with one of the other cops on scene.
You just asked me if I was a sovereign issue.
Everybody is a savage.
As Williams is put in cough, she calls for an OIC or officer in charge.
Cody, why are you arresting me?
Good. Arrest me.
I hope you arrest me.
Call Kathy right now.
Get my attorneys on the phone.
Why are you arresting me?
Oh, I see here.
Oh, I see.
I asked for an OICC are.
Your body cameras on?
Where?
Hi.
Okay, then I need the captain.
I need the colonel.
Cody.
I am pregnant.
Can I get the OIC over here?
I'm the OIC.
Okay.
That is the law.
You're hurting me.
I know.
Don't hold me here and talk to me like that.
You gave you our passports and from up north.
I know.
That is a civil infraction.
Here's your way out, Cody.
The truck's not registered.
The tag's expired.
Okay.
Where did you buy the truck?
He's an attorney.
He's an attorney.
Yeah.
How do you?
Can you get my lawyer on the car?
I don't know, almost a year ago or something, maybe.
I'm sorry.
I'm sitting around and having been there on.
No, no, no, no, no.
I do not get arrested for driving in the state of Florida because I'm not driving.
I'm traveling.
I'm traveling.
I'm listening, bro.
I'm being, I'm being cool with you.
We're not.
You are out of control, sir.
You are abusing your power.
No, I am not.
You're going to beat me up while I'm pregnant in handcuffs.
That's what the .
We have property all over?
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.
Cody?
No, I'm not.
I have you hurt me. I have a baby. My stomach. Do not touch you.
What is the big deal of the point? Honestly.
Okay. Why are you guys? Okay. Why are you guys doing it? Okay. Okay. I'm not resisting anything.
Thanks guys. My guys are not being aggressive. Your wife is taking things up a notch, unfortunately.
But, and this is where this is where we're coming from, okay?
Okay.
So she does not have a...
Yeah, she'll calm down in a minute.
She doesn't have a driver's license.
She's not.
Okay.
But she's not driving there.
No, she was...
She was driving.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm telling you we're not driving.
Travel.
Okay, you're traveling.
Whatever you want to call it.
But she does not have a valid driver's license.
How old are you?
37.
Okay, I'm 36.
The issue is that you just don't know.
that you just don't know the definition, okay, of the words.
Driving is for commercial purposes.
You're traveling.
Now, in court, no matter how much you guys believe your own beliefs, the words, the definition
of the words have me when you know this, in court, you tell the judge, listen, I'm traveling.
Here's the law.
Okay.
They dismiss it, but you guys go through this whole, I mean, we got to do lawsuits and everything
else, and for what reason?
The OIC officer in charge asked the passenger about the couple's beliefs.
Let me ask you a question. Okay. Are you guys like sovereign citizens? No, of course not. Okay.
Just Americans that stand up for, you know, our right. Okay, and I'm fine. I'm totally fine with that. I respect that by all means. It's okay. I don't mean to insult you by asking that question. But the certain language that was being used, it kind of had me like a little concern.
Okay, explain to me the language. Okay, that you guys don't recognize jurisdiction, you guys are traveling, things like that.
recognize jurisdiction. I know, I know the three branches of the government.
Everybody should.
The executive branch and, you know, legislative branch and, you know, of course, judicial branch.
Yeah.
I get all.
Well, listen, man, like I said, I don't know, the title on this truck is even canceled.
So if this was an old beat-up truck that was sitting around, it should have been registered.
That's the problem. It's not registered. That's the big problem. Okay.
I mean, I own the truck.
I know. You own the truck, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, in,
And this tag was run nationwide, the VIN was ran nationwide, and it's showing, it's not registered, it's not even, like, up to date.
That's nationwide.
We live in Maine the majority of the time.
Okay.
We're just traveling down here.
Okay.
Well.
My wife is from Florida.
I'm from Washington State originally.
Okay.
But you guys are traveling, but you guys, you guys got to have a driver's license.
You can't have a passport and stuff for ID purposes.
Yeah, it is for ID purposes, but for driving a motorized vehicle in the States, you need a, you need a traveling. You need a, you need a driver's license.
You do not need a driver's license to travel. Yes, you do.
Yeah, you don't. If there's already all this case law, it's on it, it's already there. Spring courts, you know, move on it several times.
Okay, well, the reason the lower court has to keep going through this is because you guys don't, the words. Okay, hear me out.
And so we're battling over what a belief system is.
You believe we're driving and we're telling you we're not.
And that's where the issue comes in.
It's like every time we stand up for riots or something, you guys get on, you know,
this high horse authoritarian high horse and we're like, well, you're driving, you're this.
And we got to go to court and we tell the judge and the judge is like, okay, they're traveling.
It's like, why do we have to go through that every single time?
And the officer has more bad news for them.
That being said, unfortunately, the truck has to get towed.
What do you mean?
It's not registered.
It's not even up to date on the registration, the tag.
Yeah, it's no truck, but it doesn't, you know, like.
But you still have to, but if you're traveling, you have to have the registration up to date.
You can't be driving on expired tags.
In the DMV, Department of Motor Vehicles for every state.
I don't contract.
You don't contract with them.
Cody, call Kathy.
Tell her to get here now.
Williams was arrested in charge with not having a valid driver's license, not having any vehicle
registration, attaching a fake plate to the truck, resisting law enforcement without violence
and refusing to sign a summons.
Then in May of 2023, Williams wanted her attorneys dismissed so she could represent herself.
She then filed a motion for her case overall to be dismissed.
That was denied.
The court ordered a competency hearing.
In January of 2024, Williams was accused of taking her two biological children.
from their foster home in Sorrento, Florida.
After an Amber alert, Williams and the two girls, they were found safe in Louisiana,
but this mother now faces a kidnapping charge.
Troopers in Louisiana say she still wasn't wearing her seatbelt.
So that's a good sampling of some sovereign citizens' arrest.
But if you like to see more wild body cams of sovereign citizens being arrested,
you can check out the episode over on Law and Crimes YouTube channel under After Hours,
hosted by Sam Goldberg.
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