Law&Crime Sidebar - Depp v. Heard Day 15 Recap

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

Angenette Levy recaps the biggest moments from Day 15 of the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial. Heard continues her direct examination by detailing instances in which she claimed Johnny Depp physically and sexually assaulted her before and during their marriage. Heard gave a different account of the trip to Australia where part of his right middle finger was severed. Heard detailed a violent sexual assault with a liquor bottle that Depp refutes. Heard discusses Depp's jealousy of James Franco and a celebration from Depp's team over his ex-girlfriend, supermodel Kate Moss. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Ann Jeanette Levy. And welcome to Law and Crime Sidebar as we recap day 15 in Johnny Depp versus Amber Hurd. There was a noticeable difference from the first day of the actress's testimony. She changed from a three-piece suit with a blue and white striped dress shirt with her hair down to a black cardigan over an ecru blouse of sorts. Her hair pulled back. She picked up her testimony in 2013 when she said that she traveled to Tokyo with Johnny Depp and his children for a press tour for The Lone Ranger. He was drinking at the restaurant, and the kids were kind of, you know, noticing but not really sure what to make of it.

Johnny became upset with me for judging him. Johnny screamed at me in the hotel room, and I'd like to think where the kids were in an adjoining room. What if they could hear us? Do you recall what names he called you? Do you recall what he said? And I heard at this time nagging bitch, nagging bitch all the time called me. He even said that he made a mistake with me. Heard's lawyer Elaine Brettahoft displayed a photo of Johnny Depp seemingly passed out in Tokyo.

Despite that, Hurd said the relationship progressed nicely after that. I was getting close to his kids. and he had a stint of sobriety shortly after that and it felt really good again and shortly after that he started

suggesting that I let him rent my apartment for the vultures that's what he called the press and he said now that we were like a known couple now that it was out in the press that my apartment wasn't like safe effectively for for me and I you know I had a modest apartment in Los Angeles and so

he started saying I needed to have security on me or we'd rent out the neighboring the neighboring houses because of the vultures and heard told the jury that she thought that by moving in with Johnny Depp he would be less jealous she also said that Johnny Depp wanted her to work less I am independent and I see my myself as independent and strong-willed and I had to bargain. Every time I'd get a script, it would be, you know, I thought you weren't taking another job. I'd always say, you're kidding me, that's crazy, I have to work, I support my family. You know, when I moved out to L.A., I'd get a check for, you know, a gig, $600 or something.

I'd save half from me, send half to my family. You know, I kept having to justify taking work by saying, I'm supporting my parents, you know, I'm supporting my sister, I'm supporting my family, I have to work. And he would say, you don't have to work, kid, let me take care of you, my woman doesn't have to work. And that sounds really sweet and really romantic in some way, but it became a real fight. You know, every time I got a script, it was what kind of, you know, how I was dressing, what kind of behavior I'd have, what, how much, Did I have a sex scene? And then I started saying, no, I won't take the sex scenes or, you know, I'll take the part where I don't play, you know, that kind of character. Or then I started minimizing the kinds of kissing scenes that I had.

And eventually I had to change the wardrobe that I could have in the movie. I couldn't have a, couldn't have a sex scene. But that all, you know, was, it didn't happen all at once, of course. It was little thing after a little thing, after a little thing. little thing. While filming London Fields in September 2013, Hurd said Johnny Depp proposed to her in the same hotel where they had consummated their relationship while on the press tour for the Rum Diary in 2011. He got down on one knee and said, I want you to be my girl, be my girl forever. My woman, my girl. I want you to be the rest of my life. Say yes to me. He said he wanted to

spend every day he promised me that every day when I woke up that I would wake up and he would make me smile at least once and that would be his goal and I looked into his eyes and I saw my future hope you know like blind hope so in love it was one of the most i can't describe that kind of joy you know i thought you know if we were married then this is real of course heard said yes later she said that she in depth discussed possibly drafting a pre-nup johnny said he would tear it up uh if i he said if I if you ever brought one up to me or if I ever saw one got my hands on it I'd tear it up only way out of this is death then heard testified about an incident following the met gala in

2014 where she said Depp accused her of flirting with a woman heard is bisexual and johnny starts asking me about this woman um he thought I was looking at this woman in a sexual way he was accusing me of flirting, and that's how the argument started. I don't recall what other accusations I was fielding at that moment, but typically, in my experience with him, it wasn't just one. So you'd make a point, and then he would go on to a different accusation. But I remember that what started it is this accusation that I had been flirting at this event.

We get back to the hotel room, and Johnny shoves me and kind of grabs me by the collarbone area like not really my neck but top of my neck above my collarbone below my neck I think at that point when we were still in the living room I shoved him back but I can't I don't really recall

too many specifics I remember he threw a bottle at me it missed me but it broke the chandelier and at some point I remember maybe this was the shove that I was talking about, but at some point Johnny and I are in its struggle in the living room and he kind of like shoves me down on the sofa and I get up and I'm trying to get him off of me and it's just stronger than me. I don't know how I'll describe it and at some point and he just wax me in the face. Then in May of 2014, Hurd said she started filming a movie with James Franco. He was mad at me for taking the job with James Franco. He hated James Franco and was already accusing me of kind of secretly having a thing

with him in my past since we had done Pineapple Express together. This is important because we've heard about James Franco in the trial previously. There is surveillance. video of Franco and Hurd snuggling in the elevator of the ECB, where Depp and Hurd lived around 11 p.m. the evening of May 22nd, 2016. That's a day after, Hurd claimed that Depp came to the penthouse to collect his belongings. At that time, Hurd says that Johnny Depp threw an iPhone at her face, leading her to the request that restraining order. Hurd said she and Depp argued about James Franco on the Boston flight in May 2014. Hurd described her account of what happened on the plane, Depp was in Boston filming Black Mass, and they were flying back to L.A. Heard testified

that Depp slapped her face during the argument over James Franco. I got up to move again, and he's just taunting me, having a laugh, screaming, and then just straight up me and calling me names. And it was oscillating between those things. And I get up slowly again, and I just resolved to just sit the rest of the time up at the front of the plane. And as I get up, he kind of kicks the swivel chair into my hip, kind of just hits me. And I look at him, and he asked me, what are you going to do about it? I just stared at him. I just stared at him and wanted him to see me.

wanted to get through to him. It didn't feel there was like, it felt like there was a blackness in his eyes. I wanted to look at him. I wanted him to see me. It didn't even feel like him. And as I'm walking away, slowly trying not to be, I was being very deliberate about my movements. I wasn't saying anything. I wasn't engaging. I am walking away from him slowly, and he tells me to the fuck up. Hurry up. And I just look at him one more time. Wanting to penetrate the monster to see the man that I love underneath that.

The man I loved. And he tells me to hurry up again. And I pull my gaze away from him. I walk away from him. My back has turned to him. and I feel this boot in my back. It just kicked me in the back. I fell to the floor, I caught myself on the floor,

and I just felt like I was looking at the floor of the plane felt like a long time. I thought to myself, I don't know what to do. I can't believe he just did he just kick me? No one said anything, no one did anything. That differs sharply from Depp's account of what happened. His friend Keenan Wyatt had testified he didn't see Depp act violently toward Heard. Hertz lawyer played a recording of Depp from the plane.

She claims he was blacked out. Herdard then described Depp's detox from the painkiller Roxycodone on his island in the Bahamas, also in 2014. Heard claimed Depp slapped her in the face. It was for the first few days, okay. peaceful. I, the nurse, and then later, nurse and doctor, we're staying on a different part of the island, um, a few minutes drive, uh, by ATV, like 10, 15 minute, you know, um, by one of those ATV vehicles. But we communicated via walkie-talkie and occasionally through texts. And, um, it was just, it was okay at first. And then the behavior, then it just really wasn't okay. Uh, it was,

up, down, he'd be mad at me. Then he was wanting a hug. He cried a lot and then he, you know, wanted to have sex a lot, like, which is just not like Johnny at all. One of the most violent assaults that hurt alleges happened in 2015 when Johnny Depp was filming Pirates of the Caribbean Five in Australia. This is when Depp says heard through vodka bottles. at him, leading to part of his right middle finger being severed. But Hurd described it much differently, saying Depp had taken 8 to 10 ecstasy pills. Hurd admits they argued, and that she slammed a bottle of liquor on the floor. Then she said Depp ripped off her nightgown and assaulted her with a liquor bottle. I felt this pressure. I felt this pressure. Oh, my pubic bone, and he said he was punching me.

I just saw his arm, I could feel his arm moving, and I, it looked like he was punching me. But I could just feel this pressure. It was like, it kept hitting, it didn't feel pain. It was just a pressure on my pubic bone. I don't know. I don't remember what I said. I just remember being really still, not wanting to move. I remember looking around the room.

I remember looking at all the broken bottles. broken glass and I remember her that it's just not wanting to move because I didn't know if it was broken I didn't know if the bottle that he had inside me was broken I convinced myself it wasn't broken

and that that I that the bottle wasn't broken or else it would be a lot worse and the discomfort I was feeling afterwards just paled in comparison to how scared shocked I was scared I just married this man I just married him and forgive me for asking this but I need to just make sure the record's clear. You were penetrated up the vagina into the pubic bone.

Is that correct? Objection, Your Honor. Leading. Sustained. What if any penetration was there in your vagina? With the bottle. I can't leave. I'm so sorry.

I am so sorry. Johnny, I had the bottle inside of me. and was coming inside of me over and over again. During his testimony, Depp denied ever sexually or physically assaulting Amber Heard. Heard also described an argument after Australia in 2015, where she said she saw text messages on Depp's iPad between him and a woman. Heard said Depp and this woman had been intimate, and she admitted to punching Depp. She says in defense of her sister.

Whitney, my sister, all of a sudden put herself in between Johnny and I. She just threw herself, like in the line of fire or whatever. She just all of a sudden was there and was trying to get Johnny to stop. Her back was to the staircase. And Johnny swings at her. her and I just see my little sister with her back on face her back to the staircase and Johnny swings at her and I don't even wait don't even wait for any other I don't hesitate I don't wait I just in my head instantly think of Kate Moss and the stairs and I swung in him and all of

relationship to date with Johnny, I hadn't landed a blow. And I, for the first time, hit him, like actually hit him. Square in the face. He didn't push my sister down the stairs. And all of my time, all my time of being in that relationship to that point, hadn't even landed one on Johnny. Kate Moss is the model who Johnny Depp dated years and years and years ago, and his team seemed incredibly happy that Amber Heard mentioned Kate Moss. So why? We're going to have to wait, unfortunately, until May 16th to find out.

Heard also described incidents in December of that year, where she also claimed Depp hit her. But Depp said that Heard was the aggressor. That's it for this edition of Ler. of Law and Crime Sidebar. I'm Ann Jeanette Levy. Check us out on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever else you get your podcasts, we'll see you soon.

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