Law&Crime Sidebar - LEGO Scandal Explodes as YouTuber ‘Reckless Ben’ is Arrested Twice

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

When YouTuber Benjamin "Reckless Ben" Schneider traveled to American Fork, Utah, to investigate the alleged theft of a $200,000 "Star Wars" Lego collection, a civil dispute quickly escalated into a criminal showdown. Local business owners accused the creator of taking his hidden-camera tactics too far, resulting in Schneider's dramatic double arrest by local police. Law&Crime's Jesse Weber breaks down the newly released bodycam footage.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: Stop guessing - start making perfect food every time. Use code SIDEBAR for 40% off - https://chefiq.com/discount/SIDEBAR HOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael Deininger, Christina O'Shea, Alex Ciccarone, & Jay CruzScript Writing & Producing - Savannah Williamson & Juliana BattagliaGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrimeTwitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Am I being arrested? Yeah, I'm going to be arrested. Really? It's my first time ever being arrested. It is the Lego controversy that is blowing up online. Allegations of theft, allegations of trespassing, allegations of harassment. Tell you what, we now have police body cam footage that is telling a lot of different sides of this story, and we're going to do our best to try to make sense of it right now.

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Use code sidebar for 40% off sitewide at Chef This story has a lot of people talking online. It has a lot of emotions to it. It has a lot of people trying to find out the answers of what happened. And people have been asking for coverage on this case, so we decided, why don't we do it? So you got this YouTuber Benjamin Schneider, apparently goes by the name Reckless Ben on YouTuber. It has a channel of nearly a million subscribers. He does investigative documentary-like content where he goes. those undercover, exposes schemes, things like that. Now, in his latest investigation, he really gets into this story about a guy in Oregon,

whose family had a $200,000 Lego collection. And the collection ends up at this bricks and mini-figs store under a specific agreement where the store would sell these Legos, keep a cut, give the original owner the rest. According to Ben, one day, this collection just gone. And there's no money. there's no Legos. The family seems to claim that they got robbed. So Ben is investigating.

And he helps the owner of this collection sue the corporate owners of bricks and mini-figs, and they apparently win. But according to Ben, the corporate owners, to avoid paying the judgment, they close the Oregon store. Now, Ben tells police that he filed a new lawsuit, this time against the owners personally. Those owners, Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best live in Utah. So Ben decided to fly out there.

And that is when everything goes sideways and is caught on police body cam. Am I being arrested? Really? My first time ever being arrested. So that was apparently March 10th. Ben gets arrested. You have this newly released body cam footage that we're going to show you where you can see exactly what police claim happened.

And we're going to take a look at this because there's been a claim. that the police were protecting the people that Ben has accused of wrongdoing. The other way of looking at it is whether Ben himself crossed the legal line. And by the way, talking about the line, so the bricks and mini-figs, the corporate franchisor, the franchisee, the executives, apparently filed a lawsuit against Schneider and also the man who claims that this store stole his Lego collection. They claim that the defendants created online content to, quote, defraud, manipulate, threatened, trespass, extort, injure, and damage them.

Now, here's the thing. Ben hasn't really stayed quiet about it because after the body cam was released, Ben posted his own response video, and he seems to suggest that what the police released may not actually tell the full story. Most of this footage is redacted. So again, there's a big mystery of what happened. Can we all come together and convince the American Fork Police Department to unredact this so we can find out the truth?

So to figure out who's right, or if anyone is, we got to go back to the very important piece in this timeline that got us to that arrest. We go to March 8th, 2026, two days before what we just saw there, Joshua Johnson calls American Fork PD. And he says that a suspicious person just showed up at his house. Person's apparently wearing a baseball cap with a UPS logo taped onto it. And he left a package. Inside that package, reportedly, rubber ducks. Johnson tells the dispatcher that he thinks it's Ben Schneider. And he says that there's a civil case in Oregon.

He believes Ben is sending people to his home to harass him. And according to the police report, while an officer is still on the phone with Johnson, Johnson says that two females just got out of a car and are walking toward his property and a male driver apparently staying in the vehicle. So officers respond. They apparently find the driver. And his name is reportedly Benjamin Adams. So not the YouTuber.

We're talking about a different Benjamin, but Adams apparently or reportedly tells police that he's there to pick up a friend for a date. And then he seems to change his story. How you do you? I'm Ben, by the way. What's up? I'm Ben. Not the, like, you're not a reference.

No, I'm just another Ben. That actually is a mutual. Yes, I'm not even. But. Are you okay if I photograph these? Yeah, go for it. Would you guys, I guess, like to tell my, like? what I'm just doing here.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I was just, sorry for, I guess, that. I, too, have been in places. So with cops, I do have, like, some trespassing charges in the past. Sounds like it. You guys are going on people's property and mess with them, so it doesn't surprise me. My, I guess, whole position in this whole thing is, like, just filming. So the YouTube book he came in, the other, last night you flew in,

from, I think, L or something like that. He just posted him on Instagram, hey, if he was in Utah, I'm filming a video. He didn't go in here. to the video. Do you get paid or something for this or what? Yeah, I get paid. I film for different creators around Utah. This just happened to come over as an opportunity for me to make some extra money. So you're exchanging a criminal record for money? What does that mean?

Well, I'm getting charges. You're getting charged for like trespassing and stuff for money. I never enter onto the... You said you have multiple trespassing charges, right? Just with abandoned plates. I go to abandoned plates. I don't do that anymore. You're filming for money for that? That's a bad idea, as well. I'm saying. Oh, yes. I stopped doing that. It's just, that used to be my past. Yeah. So again,

that was Benjamin Adams, the driver, and police say he was trespassed. He was told not to return. But at almost the same time, another officer spots this dark car. And according to the officer, it failed to come to a complete stop at a stop sign, and the officer pulls it over. What's up, my man? What's good? Good. How are you? Good. My name's Officer Richardson with Ameriport Police. The reason I stopped you is the stop sign. You didn't come to a quick. we stopped at it. I didn't? No. Oh, okay. Unfortunately. Do you have a driver's life design? Yeah, I do. Appreciate you. Those boxing gloves? Yeah, so we got like a purge mask, we got a bunch of camera equipment. We filmed YouTube videos. Oh, dope, sweet. Yeah. Is this going on YouTube then? Yeah.

Shout out YouTube, dude. Hey. Hey. You've seen the Colt and we, uh, like, you heard of Scientology? Yeah. We joined Scientology for like, I joined it for like four weeks. I don't know how long you were. Watched you that, dude. We joined one called the 12 tribes where they're going to do like a suicide soon, so we like tried to stop the group suicide. How are you getting into this crap? Yeah, I don't know. I just Google Colts near me and they pop up and we just go join the Colts and get secret footage of it and it's pretty cool. That's wild.

Good point. You ever heard of posth variance? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You have? Oh my gosh, dude. No, yeah. No, they've ever pulled someone over and there's spaghetti cap on their driver's license? No.

But I'm a homie. We know a guy. That's so funny. Yeah, he literally has on his driver's license. Is your YouTube big? Not really. Like, I guess what's big? How many subscribers we talk about?

A couple hundred thousand? A couple hundred thousand? A couple hundred thousand? Oh, that's a lot. Do you have a couple hundred thousand? I only got nine thousand. I started, like, seriously, like, he's been doing it for like eight years now. Oh, wow.

What's your YouTube? Where's your car? Reckless. I started off doing slacklining. Oh yeah, yeah. So you got good balance. Yeah, I would like set off like good places and stuff. But I do like the double backflips on it and stuff.

Yeah, I do like crazy flips and stuff. Yeah, I just do a bunch of like extreme sports and that guy turned into this, there's like the world's scariest time at house. It turns out as like a cult, I guess. Oh yeah, I've heard of that, dude. I've gone down the YouTube rabbit hole on that one. Oh yeah, that's... I was the first person ever completed.

And then we took it, it turns out the guy says he was a torture fetish, so we ended up stealing his company from him. And I was like, I brought the LLC and everything, yeah. And so then we like shut him down, and that way he can't, like, torture people anymore. Because he was like false advertised. He's like, it's a scary time of the house doesn't exist.

He just brings him in his backyard and tortures them and stuff. And you were the first one to like, get out? Like, yeah, went through it. Yeah, I went through it. Yeah. I was the first person to make it all the way through without quitting. And then I was like, well, this thing sucks. You just like waterboards you all day.

Like, this is stupid. And so I was like, I'm going to take over his business. And so I like found some like legal loophole to take it over. So that conversation goes on for a while, Ben seemingly explaining his YouTube work and the officer's listing. But then another officer arrives. And he's the one who apparently responded to the original call at Johnson's house, right, about that strange person showing up. And he's already spoken to Benjamin Adams. He's seen the text messages apparently.

And now he wants to talk to Ben. So who's Ben? Ben. How's you tell? That's good. Do you like it? So here's the thing, right, is that he called in because people were filming his property, he got a package delivered today, right? And I already spoke to somebody else.

He was filming him. I have the footage. I have the text messages, right? Let's let civil problems remain civil, right? And let it just stay in court. Okay? So at this point, do you guys have your ideas? on you he's got my driver's license right yeah he'll get it back to you once we're

done here you don't have your ID on you know up to his house he lives like right on the corner though okay okay what's your name of date of birth I have a picture my ID that'd be great oh sorry I thought there was somebody else in the passengers oh no there's not yeah gotcha California man so he was saying and on the two females that are involved So do you have their information? So because the thing is, is that everybody today is being trespassed from that property. Okay.

Yeah, we just barely met those people today. Again, that was March 8th. Ben and another person, police say were trespassed. They were released next day. Johnson calls police again because this time a man is at his front door, ringing the bell, knocking, and the man reportedly says he's there to talk to someone. You're going to hear him refer to as brother, Johnson. But when officers arrive, they realize this is supposedly some random person that Ben

allegedly found online. I'm just here trying to talk to brother Johnson. Okay. I'm in the what's the what's the relation? Um, there's just been something like audio going around or like someone there's been an audio on around with the young group. Um, if you all I can play for you. Can you say that again slowly? There's a what? There's an audio going around through our young men's group yeah brother Johnson taking advantage of some people like how so so this guy donates his life savings in in Legos to bricks and mini figs it's like a resell store yeah I was just coming to come discussed out with them and then on the ring doorbell he said he'd be out in a minute so I've just been waiting for him I

I'm up in Mill Creek and Salt Lake. Okay. And you drove down here? What car is yours? My car is not here. I drive a four-in-year. So how did you get here? I drove down here and then I met up with Ben, like five-ish minutes away. I think he's at an Airbnb and then they just drove from here. Where is he at then? Honestly, I don't know what he just left you?

He, yeah. I mean, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just, he just. I mean, he just asked me to come confront him and get his side of the story on everything. Did you? And what was your fine example? I was just going to ask him, like, you know, does he, is he willing to give up everything, like he said? Because he swore on everything, he swore on God. And if not, I was going to confront his bishop about it. Okay.

Okay. And then, so have you been drinking at all? today because I have I smell a little bit off your breath so no I'm not drinking at all I don't I don't drink so what am I'm smelling you're gonna hang out with this officer then okay I'm gonna see what his name is he said his name is Ben is this guy brother Johnson okay I'm gonna find out what's going on with him just hang out with him okay what's your friends last time Ben Schneider and Schneider so he sent you today correct asked you to be a

third party liaison with him. So he was trespass for this residence yesterday. He was using you, the third party to console. That's ending you up in the same trouble that he's in now. I was unaware. I didn't know he was trespass. Probably not

best to be a tool for someone else. I get it. I really didn't know I was... Go ahead. Continue. I really didn't know what I was getting into. He's a YouTuber. for a while. He slid up on Instagram and said, hey, I'm coming to Salt Lake. I just stood up. I said, I'm a local and it was like, cool, are you free the week of March 9th?

And then text me earlier. Well, this isn't Salt Lake County. This is Utah County. We do things differently down here. So if I wanted to, I could push things, but I understand you're being used by someone you don't know. He wants you trespass from the property, which means you cannot return. If you do that, you don't. you will be arrested for criminal trespassing and put into Utah kind of jail. That would sense. I don't think you want a record. That man reportedly identified as Christian Morgan taken away, released, but as he walks away,

officers claim they watch him head straight for this black car, parked down the street, and inside two people. Reportedly, one of the people they just got for trespassing earlier, and, yep, according to the reports, Ben Schneider. So later an officer tracks down Schneider and stops him in his vehicle. What's your name? Are you Ben? Okay, going to lower this window for me, would you? What's your last name, Ben?

Schneider. Okay, what are we doing, boys? We're just going for a drive. I actually live in the area. Okay. I'll ask again, because I wasn't born yesterday. Why are we doing it? Why are we harassing people?

You have your ID on you or no? So... Do you want to follow us to my house? My house is literally down the street. All right. So, well, here's the thing, okay? So you were all involved. You were all involved yesterday.

I mean, the issue of Pat... You were trespassed from the residence yesterday, right? Yeah, but we were in the residence in the home. I know. You sent someone else. We didn't send him. Who sent them then? To that were trespassed yesterday, though.

Why don't you call him? Tell him to come over to the car. Because he's not... We don't have that... How did he call you guys then? We're gonna play stupid? I know he called you guys. I watched him try to get in your car.

Well, he's saying you sent him. So it's not a church member going up and asking. Okay, listen, okay? If we want to play stupid, we can play stupid. I'm not. So I'm going to be straight up with you guys. He was at somebody's house harassing that individual.

He got trust. Listen, he got trespassed today, okay? I see, I watch him, tried to get in your guys' car, and then he bailed. Listen to what I'm saying, though. Then he said, Ben is the one that sent me to, yeah. Well, like I told you earlier,

you're walking a very dangerous line, to be honest. Which can get you hemmed up a lot of the time. Yeah, and I don't want that. And I don't blame you, right? Yeah. If you didn't do anything wrong, I don't want you getting pinned up for a lot. stuff that's wrong. What I would

suggest, I'm not going to push tonight's issue. I appreciate you. I'm not sure if you're lying to me or not, to be honest. I'm willing to take any direct test you want. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to put in there that since you guys returned, they have to document it.

So stay away. I know. It's a little too convenient that he says you guys send him. Because I live in the neighborhood. I live in the same neighborhood as this guy. I'm driving through it all the time. So if I drive pass this house to get to my house. Is that incriminating? Nope. Just if you go on the property. Okay. Like I said, that's why you're not being charged and arrested and being booked in

deal. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate you. But I'm just saying you're walking thin line by being even... Don't give this guy evanesion if he's in the wrong. I understand that. Right? Yeah. And your buddy already told me that you're the one that showed it yesterday in the UPS you're trying to have him signed something. That right there is a federal crime. I understand that. Yeah.

So if he decides to take a different route, with that, you can be liable. Understood, yeah. Because it's on ring, doorbell camera. You don't work for UPS, but you're wearing a UPS hat, and you make them a sign. You know what I'm saying? I do understand that, yeah.

That's a federal crime, so we're not gonna take action on it, but if he decides to, or the mail office somehow gets around it and they report it, it's something coming down the pipe that's gonna really jam you up. Yeah, I apologize. So don't let him manipulate you to that. Don't let anybody manipulate you. If you're not going to do it on your own, don't, it can do it.

Yeah. Does that make sense? I appreciate you. Same with them, like, having 30 different people in your car. You don't know that well, like, Christian? See, I film content. So it's like, it's just people online that, like, are also filming videos together. So I don't know what they're into, right?

Yeah, for sure. I don't know anything about these people when they come in my car, so I got to be more careful. I know you, yeah. I know you said you've known bad, but if he would have approached you say with Frist you in the car, he has some stuff on him. then that also goes on you, right? I understand that you're trying to fill contact to come to live and do that time stuff,

but maybe you bet these guys a little bit better than stuff like this happens. I do understand that, yeah. Because if we found stuff in the car and nobody took accountability, all you get to charge. Yeah. Makes sense?

So I'm going to talk to him really quick and then we'll let you guys get out of here. Okay, so just stay in by it. Cool, Ben? Yes. All right. So you did give him your ID and all that already? I gave a picture of my ID

because it might use at the house. So I already told him, okay? Luckily, nothing was found in the vehicle. However, because of the situation today and because of the things that you've said and what could happen and transpire, you guys technically could be arrested under federal charges for that UPS situation. We don't take an action on that, but if he decides to inform the mail office and go that route, it's going to be a, it's a jam-up that you're not going to want. So even if you're trying to do a stint or trying to joke around or bait, whatever you called it,

I don't remember, but dressing up as UPS, going to someone's house. He did. I saw the ring door luck out of him. He's wearing a UPS hat. And you asked him to sign for a package, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it was just to show him like the irony of why that, yeah. If that's not dressing up, what is that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. And you get end up in jail in Utah when you're from Cali. Okay. Not worth it, right? Yeah, yeah. We play differently here.

Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. It's like I told him, we'll let you. you guys go now, but you're walking in the line. Just be mindful of that. Next day, March 10th, Johnson reportedly calls police again. This time, police say he tells them a woman is standing near his front door taking photos. Officers respond. They find a vehicle park nearby inside Ben Schneider. You guys see those papers? Yeah. So this is what you're trying to serve them with? Yes. That's required by the work that we have. I wish we could just send him an email.

I guess he could just send him the phone call, or the court could just send it to him, but this is what we were required to do from the United States court. So we're just following the instructions of the government. Have you guys been here before? I have once, I came one time to have a good faith conversation with him before suing, which the government also requires us to have before. So are you Benjamin Schneider? Yes. Okay. So I'm just following the, basically, the instructions of the government, and he keeps calling the cops on me to

we try to avoid getting in trouble for his crimes. So that's why he keeps calling it. I think it's like the third time he's called the cops now on us. Because he thinks if I just call the cops on me, he can get away with it. But we're showing him like we're not going to let me go away with his crimes. Okay. You okay if I give these papers to them? Yeah, for sure.

Okay. Hang tight. Hi. I'm trying to speak with someone to verify if a cases, just verify if a cases, real. I do. When you're ready. It's 26. S is in Sierra.

C is in Charlie. 06.134. Okay. Do you know if it's already been to court, or are you allowed to tell me kind of where they're at with the case? Okay, so the defendant needs to be served with papers before the case will

I guess start. Okay, thank you for your help. That's all for today. Thank you. Then the officer returns. He does not want the paper. He does not want the papers? Here's that back for you. He wanted you trespassed. Okay.

So don't come back. But she never even went on the property though? Yeah. So who went on the property? None of us did. You guys, no one went on the property. Did I know. Okay.

Why is he saying that you guys went on the property? because he wants it's arrested so we have nothing to court. Okay. But he does want you trespass, regardless. He doesn't need a reason as to why. So how do we serve him then? You got to go through the court, man. You got to...

We did go to the court, and I said we have to serve him in person. Okay. So we had $200,000 with the LEGOs in the store. Okay. And it's the world's largest Star Wars Lego collection set. Okay. And basically, the deal was he... he, like, we can, like, put our Legos in his store.

Once one gets sold, he keeps a small percentage of it, and then we get the rest. And then, well, that was with the previous owner. It's a complicated thing. It was with the previous owner. He's corporate. He comes down, takes over the store, because I'm taking everything in this. The owner's, like, screaming him, like, you can't, like, kick me out of the store. Like, all of these sets have not been paid for yet.

He says, I don't care. I'm taking it anyways. Boom. He takes all the sets, sells them, keeps all the profit, which was supposed to go to us. So we sued him actually and we won. And they had to shut the whole, he shut the whole store down to avoid paying us. So now the only option left we have to sue him personally because it's a personal thing he did. So now we're still in personally.

And he's doing everything he can to avoid accountability. So according to the police report, there was also a sign and it was placed on a public strip across from Johnson's house. And it reportedly showed Johnson holding money with the word. words, I stole a dying man's life savings. Now, Ben reportedly admitted that he put it there. That is when the officer told him that he was kind of straddling the line here. Obviously, this isn't working. Yeah, no, it will work if we keep doing it. Yeah. It always has worked for us before. So right now, you're straddling the line of what we call stalking. But we're not stalking. We're here for a, we're doing with the court.

Regardless, regardless of fifth year to serve papers. If you continue to have people going up to his door and onto his residence, making him and his family feel unsafe, you are straddling that line of stocking. Yeah, but what the law says is if the average person would feel unsafe by our behaviors, so I think he's feeling unreasonably unsafe. A reasonable person would not feel unsafe in the situation. What about his family numbers, kids? Life kids. They should not feel unsafe. We're here for a legal business reason.

If he feels unsafe because we're here serving papers, that's on him. That's what the law says is that's on him, not us. Okay. Well, him and his family are not feeling safe. That's their fault. That's their fault. That's their fault. That's their fault.

That's their fault that they feel unsafe. Regardless if if you're to serve papers or not, having multiple people that you just met come up here and try to serve papers for you. Well, I can say the same thing. I feel unsafe trying to conduct business with him, and he calls the police on me to hide. I feel unsafe because of that. Because we had a three-hour search in our car. He said we had heroin in our car yesterday.

We had a three-hour search in our car. That makes me feel unsafe. I think that's reasonable for me to feel unsafe. It's not reasonable for him to feel unsafe. Well, you're the one putting yourself in this position by sitting outside his house. What's the alternative? Putting up signs like that?

What's the alternative? You can't be doing that. Why not? You cannot be putting up signs. Why not? What I? Photos of his face in front of his house with information like that.

Isn't that freedom of speech? Isn't that? Residential picketing. Uh-huh. It's a clausky misdemeanor. With his shirt on the pocket? Okay, I have to stand over here. Do you have any weapons or anything like that on you?

Uh, no. Okay, let's the trans, find your back. Are you under arrest right now for Stockton? Really? That's good. What's following the walls? What's... Is there a phone or anything you'd like to take with you?

Uh... Uh, is that okay? Do you get a phone? Okay, we'll collect it for you. It's not going to be on you. Oh, no, we got, Paul. You guys are actually going to me, not Josh. This guy stole into the mego's. That's March 10th.

Ben is apparently booked into jail, later released. Next day, March 11th, police say Johnson calls yet again. Now there's a group of people reportedly hanging the same message on a neighbor's fence. Johnson's face, I stole a dying man's life savings. And one of them, they say, is on FaceTime. with Ben Schneider. Hi. What you guys up to?

Basically, basically all this money back to the family. Yeah. Okay. We got her permission. She said we can film here, so we're just getting ready to film. We're going to get home.

The owner of defense? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we got her permission. We've done a huge girlfriend and stuff. Yeah. We have permission from this house, that orange house. Yeah, they're also, they said we were good to film there too.

So we said we're allowed all over that property areas. We're just trying to get this GoFundMe going. It's a legit go-fund-me. What's it for? We're getting back this money for this family. Let me pull up. It's a real go-fund-me. It's a real go-fund-meet.

Yeah, do you want to hold this up? Can you have to hold it? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, I don't know. He hasn't been on the phone in forever. That's not true. So. But, yeah, so here's the Go-FundMe.

We got $10. $20,000. I know who Ben is. I know the situation. I know the situation with this guy, the YouTube, the Legos, I know all that. He was arrested for stalking, okay? Yeah. You know that. He's paying you guys to be here. I know that too. No, he's not paying us. He can't, and maybe it'd be better for him. Where is he? I know he just left, too. I have no idea. Okay. The problem that we're running into is you guys are slowly becoming an accessory for stalking. And you guys can be arrested for that.

And so we're kind of at the phase point where the people that are involved in this are getting upset. We're here to keep the peace. We're here to make sure that nobody gets in trouble, nobody gets hurt, nobody gets arrested. But I don't think that this kind of stuff is going to help the situation. Well, but if we get this off and get the drone shot of it, it's going to look good, and then we'll take it all down. That's how we're getting the funds for the phone. Yeah, that's how we're going to, because we can't, you know, we're not going to do the lawsuit anymore. We're just going to do this go fund me.

Okay. We've already got it's following it. So the other issue that we run into is it can run into some defamation stuff or it can have some other ramifications that come from because the gentleman that Officer Richardson is explaining has been arrested. He's not allowed to have contact with that party or indirect contact either. So you guys are indirectly in contact with that party. So we don't want that to threshold.

Okay. Because that can mean you guys can get arrested as well. I'm all for GoFundings. I'm all for support. Like, what you guys are doing, none of my business. But you have to understand we're not stupid either. I know you're FaceTime and Ben. I know he's having you do this. And cool, if that's what he's doing, and cool.

But I'm just, I guess this is, like he explained, you don't want to be caught up in there. Ben doesn't want to go to jail again. We don't want to arrest him again. Yeah, absolutely. Like, that's not what we want to do. Obviously, we have to do our job. Yeah, absolutely. I know you guys are doing your job.

But what we want is not take people to go. Yeah, absolutely. We want Ben and his job. Posse, whatever you guys probably sold, reckless Ben, whatever. We want you guys to be happy. We don't care. But we also have to look out for them. But Ben apparently isn't there, and police didn't actually know where he went until, according to the incident report, they receive a tip.

And a neighbor says that some YouTubers are apparently renting an Airbnb nearby. So officers go to check it out and they see the black Chevy Malibu from the sign hanging. They apparently get surveillance footage reportedly allegedly showing Ben walking into the basement apartment so they get a search warrant. The doors are open. Windows are open. Windows are open. Everybody step out.

Police department, search warrant. Stand up and come outside. Right now, let's go. Step outside. Step outside, everybody. Come on. Everybody step outside. No, no, no, no.

Don't move. Just show. Are we all going to present it? Just curious. We all are all like to talk about that here. Okay. And then they bring in Ben for more questioning. So I thought it was a funny plot point for the video to be like, okay, well, if we serve him, we go to jail, you know.

So obviously we can't go through the civil way because they keep saying, do it civilly. And obviously, going civilly, suing him is not working for us. So let's do it. GoFum me. I have a big following. I'm very confident if I made a GoFundMe. We would get him the $200,000 just from a GoFundMe. I'm very confident we would do that.

But I have to do something funny. So we were like, well, we found a house that we saw some people at the house yesterday. They were really like, oh my gosh, like they're arresting you just for like serving court papers. Like all the neighbors were like, it seemed like they were on our side, you know. So we talked to the neighbors about it. And they were like, yeah, let's do a GoFundMe here. I give you permission to put the sign up in my house, you know. It's freedom of speech.

We're allowed to do that if it's their private property, you know. And so we're like, we'll just do like a little video where we're like, hey, like donate to this and we have that sign hung up, you know. And then we're like, we're just going to make like a short little video just for the go fund me. And then my friend gets arrested. And he's not even like I just met him for this video. He showed up to this. So I had a fake tier of my Patreon where it was like, if you pay me $3,000, it's like, it's a joke tier. A lot of things I do are satire.

I guess you haven't found out by now, but I involve a lot of satire in like my work. And so a lot of big YouTubers that I think are terrible people, they always have like tears where it's like, if you pay me $1,000, you can collab with me, which I think is so. It's like, why would you have someone pay to work for you? You know, I think that's so stupid. So I did the same thing jokingly in my own. Like, if you pay me $3,000, you can be one of my videos. And I think the guy who got arrested today, he was like my biggest fan ever, you know. And so he was like, I'll pay that.

You know, he's like, if I pay this, are you really going to do a video with me? I was like, no, it's a joke. Like, don't pay them. I'll just do a video with you. Like, you don't have to pay anything. So I flew him out. And so that's how I met him, actually, was through that. And then what they said is he was being kind of a dick to the police, I guess, today.

And that's why he got arrested. So I don't know if that's true. I don't really know him that well. Probably maybe he was, I guess. Maybe he's not as good as corporate as like the rest of us are. I mean, all these people are just random people that were in that Airbnb that you guys like swatter us for. Like those are all just random people. I just met all of them as a couple days ago.

So I'm really the matter. If anyone should get in trouble, it should be me. But not them. Okay. So today's event was that kind of, you know, was that kind of, you? your ideas to do this video with the GoFundMe and all that? Or how did that all come? So I wanted a video that GoFund me because the whole thing is like, okay, if we do a video of this thing, I know, like, I just know how the internet works.

It's going to raise the money for his family. Right. And before we could even shoot the video, the police just came and shut it down and arrested it up like, like, shell. I don't know if he deserved it. Maybe he was talking back. I don't know. I'm not sure either I wasn't there. I wasn't there.

Yeah, because I was afraid that if I go back, then, so I just stayed back out of it. I wasn't in it at all. But the plan with everyone was to create this video. It was just to create a video, yes. For the Go fund me. And then get the, because if I just say like,

hey, this man stole his leg, I was donate, no one's going to care, you know? Like, you got to do something, like, kind of funny for it, you know? But the purpose wasn't to intimidate Josh. It was like those neighbors seemed like they were like on our side, you know, and it was like, oh, like if we do it in the neighbor's house, like it will go viral. Okay.

Yeah, but the purpose wasn't to intimidate Josh. It wasn't to like make him scared, I guess. It was because I know that that's going to go viral and that's going to basically blow up and get, like that sign is a funny sign, you know. Like we have the freedom of speech to say that, you know. And it's true. It's not defamation. I mean, even if it is defamation, he has to get us in civil court, but it's not defamation. It is true.

Like, that is what he did. And I have so much evidence to back it up in our documentary. And we have the freedom of speech for that person to put that up on their property. And I thought we were doing a good thing by getting this family of their money back, you know. And we're like, because the police said, hey, do not serve them court papers, which means basically the police told me, do not take this man to court or else you get arrested. And so I was like, just thinking and we're like, let's do it go fund me, you know? And that was their solution.

Gotcha. And they book them again. So our plan kind of moving forward is we're going to book you back into the jail, okay, for an additional stocking charge. So what that kind of looks like, you're booked in on a stocking for all the stuff that happened, whatever happened yesterday, right? I don't really know the full details of that. You kind of explained it to me, but I don't know the details behind that. But we're looking at some different things that happened today, right? You had your little crew go back to the house today, post that picture thing in front of his house.

And then also the... Well, you're in the vicinity, right? Yeah, but they didn't say I couldn't go back though. But they couldn't say I couldn't do that. Like, I wasn't warned today. Right, but we're still doing these patterns of showing up a people's house, like, near their house, posting these posters in front of their houses, it still kind of meets that element. And a lot of this stuff, you may have to just get an attorney and just fight it in the criminal

side of court, right? But I'm just kind of giving you the benefit of doubt and explaining to you of kind of where we're at, rather than it's just like, hey, you're under rest for stocking, and then you have questions like, what's going on, right? So I'm kind of giving you the benefit of the doubt of explaining things to you, right? And then the other thing was the creation of the GoFundMe, right? We're blasting this person all over saying, hey, he's... So creating the GoFundMe was illegal? Well, in the concept of the stalking, right?

You're blasting this guy that you were arrested for stalking yesterday, saying that he's all this stuff. It's, again, another element to the stalking. And then just the entire stuff that's leading up to this, like... But is it stalking or is it... I guess you're eyes at the fight in court, I guess. Yeah. And then if I fight in court, you'd have to get like, I guess you wouldn't have that answer in her mind?

Probably not, no. Oh, yeah, should I? Yep. Go ahead and stand up. I got an officer right here that's going to get cuffs for you. So Ben was reportedly arrested twice. You got this one incident, allegedly stalking and targeting residential picketing. You got another one, another stalking charge different days.

And in a statement released by police, the American Fork Police Department addressed all, of the growing online controversy surrounding this case because there seemed to be a lot of focus put on the police department and a lot of sympathy for Ben and the person who claims his Lego collection was stolen. I understand that many people following this situation online have strong feelings regarding the underlying business dispute out of Oregon and allegations that individuals may have lost significant amounts of money. I recognize that people are frustrated. angry, and may feel that justice has not been served in relation to those allegations.

Those concerns are understandable. Our responsibility in Utah was not to determine who was morally right or wrong in a business disagreement originating in another state. Our responsibility was to respond to conduct reported here in our community, evaluate the facts available to our officers at the time, and enforce Utah law, as officers established probable cause that a crime had occurred. The fact that someone may believe they have been wronged financially does not exempt any individual from the laws governing harassment,

trespassing, stalking, or other conduct within our jurisdiction. We remain committed to enforcing the law fairly, objectively and transparently, regardless of who is involved or what narrative may exist. But again, Ben says that the police version isn't the full story, and he responded to all of this. He points to the body cam footage from that traffic stop, claiming that there's actually footage that has been redacted. Now, let's go to the heroin claim. We got pulled over by the police, and they claimed that we had heroin on us.

Most of this footage is redacted. So, again, there's a big mystery of what happened. Kenwheel come together and convince the American Fork Police Department to unredact this so we can find out the truth. However, what the police is claiming now is that they did not get a call saying that we had heroin on us. Instead, they could just tell from the second we pulled over that our eyes were glossy. Good with these guys being able to drive? Yeah, I think so I didn't see anything clear as David Tyler that I noticed. What's the goal?

Right now? Yeah. I was gonna, I was gonna scare him a little bit and let him go with all I really was gonna do. So, American Fork Police Department, if I'm your teacher, here's your homework. First off, learn the facts of what actually happened. Second off, stop lying about the facts. No one's believing it. The third thing is unredacted the audio that makes the police look bad.

Now, here's where everything stands. So police apparently have not yet responded to Ben's claims. as of May 29th, 2026, the American Fork Police Department claims there are no active warrants for Ben Schneider out in Utah. The chief said they are not currently seeking him. But we'll keep a careful eye on this and see how it progresses since it's getting a lot of attention. It's all we have for you right now here on Sidebar. Thank you so much for joining us. And as always, please subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcast, Spotify, wherever you should get your podcasts.

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