Law&Crime Sidebar - P. Diddy’s ‘Sex Slave’ Says Rapper Gave Him $5 Million to Keep Quiet: Ex-Wife

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Johnathan Oddi, the man accused of shooting up the lobby of a Miami-area hotel several years ago, told investigators that he had once been a sex slave for Sean "Diddy" Combs. Now, a copy of an alleged non-disclosure agreement that Oddi says he signed in exchange for $5 million has surfaced. Law&Crime's Jesse Weber spoke to Oddi's ex-wife, Tonia Troutwine, about what she knows about Oddi's apparent connections with Combs, and got legal insight from trial attorney Mauricio Padilla.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: If your child, under 21, has been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes or fatty liver disease, visit https://forthepeople.com/food to start a claim now! HOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:YouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael Deininger, Christina O'Shea & Jay CruzScript Writing & Producing - Savannah Williamson & Juliana BattagliaGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, P. Diddy, whatever he calls himself these days. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, he's part of what's called the boule. The boule is a branch of the minority. Okay. It's the black people. All right, by popular demand, I get a ton of messages about him on social media. We are now talking about Jonathan Addy and his apparent connection to Sean Diddy Combs. Because there is quite the update we got to talk about.

Going to give you a little bit more context about who he is. So who is he? Well, Jonathan Addy is the former story. stripper who was taken into custody in May of 2018 after he fired a gun inside the Trump National Doral Miami Hotel and Resort in the middle of the night. The Florida State Attorney's Office says that Adi fired shots in the lobby toward the chandelier, then draped the giant American flag across the front desk. He also apparently got into this shootout with police officers.

According to the Miami-Dade court, Adi faces 10 charges, multiple counts of attempted murder, aggravated assault, burglary. There hasn't been a lot of activity regarding his criminal case. One of the last times we talked about him was whether there was going to be a possible plea. We checked the court record. There are like literally more than 800 docket entries, and it appears they just keep resetting a status conference every month. So kind of unclear what the status of his criminal case is, but by all accounts, it appears he's still locked up. But you put that to the side.

Here's the thing about Jonathan Addy and his connection to Diddy. So apparently he sat down for a long interview with law enforcement after his arrest. And during that interview, he brought up, unprompted, that he was Sean Combs' sex slave. Pretty wild allegation at the time, because this was years before, Combs would end up being charged with federal sex trafficking, racketeering, prostitution charges currently on trial. Allegations being that he formed a criminal enterprise using his business to abuse women, including forcing them, to coerced sexual performances, including with sex workers, freak-offs, baby oil, drugs. But to go back in time and hear him talk about this stuff is wild. I had sex with Cassie and Sean.

Basically he would tell me what I do with Cassie. I had like 15 encounters and I heard lots of business because what they would do is Sean talks a lot on the phone and on the TV with speaking and stuff and I was like a sex slave okay for them that's what I was that's all all right the hip-hop agenda is an agenda to move drugs a law in the United States they move you need to report the they they move all the dope okay all the dope on private jets which don't get screened by by by customs inside United States okay they move what's whole high grade power in the MA, they move cocaine and they move liquid cocaine in the

bottles too. Okay, so they put the liquid cocaine in the bottles and they move. I see the liquid cocaine. I've drank it myself. Having sex with Gideon Cassie. Okay. It's not good. He drinks all a time. And that, of course, is in reference to Cassandra Ventura. Combs's ex filed her lawsuit against him in 2023. It was settled, but we believe she's going to be. a key witness in his upcoming criminal case. But let's not forget this, because it is very pertinent to what we're about to discuss. This update in this story, take a listen to what he says here. I've had a great life. I've settled five, four point one, two five million dollars with Ditty. Okay, was he scared? I wasn't exposed. I don't want to talk about Ditty right now.

I'm going to talk about you. Help me understand you. I mean. So why did I play that? Wow, according to the Daily Mail in the New York Post, Jonathan Addy may have in fact signed an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement with Sean Combs, signing this in exchange for $5 million. And apparently, there is a picture of an NDA signed in 2014 that has surfaced. According to the report, you can see Combs's signature on it. It says over Sean Combs, individually on behalf of Bad Boy Worldwide, Sean John Enterprises, there's a signature there. And Wadi went on to apparently tell authorities, my settlement put me in a box.

Basically, I couldn't talk because I was going to be sued. They kept following me. He reportedly also said, and he also said this. I caught herpes, and I came back, and I sued him for the urbis and won. But they don't want to... Mark Gerbos and Ben Messalas were his attorneys, okay? And Christopher Leon's here was my attorney. They asked me she'd turn in that, which was the video recording, and I did so.

They gave a batching accident and it's possible, I threw everything out, it's possible I can produce a copy. So now I'm joined by a very special guest. I mentioned at the beginning, have her on with us right now. I'm joined by Jonathan Addy's former wife of six years, Tanya Trout Wine. Thank you so much for taking the time and coming here on Sidebar.

Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me and thank you for taking interest and my ex-husband's case and, you know, everything that's been going on. What is it like seeing your ex in the news so much recently since all of the Sean Diddy Combs news broke? I mean, I said it before.

I get a million messages about your ex-husband constantly when we first did an episode. I mean, what is it like seeing his name in the news so much? Well, when I met Johnny, he was a local celebrity in Miami. He danced for the local Spanish telenovelas. He's fluent in Portuguese, Cuban slang. So I knew when I married Johnny, he loves, he's a performer. That's not me.

He is. He's an exhibitionist. He loves people. He loves being in the limelight. So the fact that he somehow entered the limelight is not as surprised me. That is not the shocking part. The way it happened is extremely shocking to me, extremely disheartening. And I was, I think my initial reaction was anger.

Because he knew I was against violence. He was a very kind of anti-violence. So for him to enter kind of the mainstream public arena in a violent way was very disheartening and very sad, very angry and sad. Hey, everybody. This is another law and crime legal alert. Did you know that children are being diagnosed with serious conditions like type 2 diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease? And the research is potentially linking ultra-processed foods to this? Yeah, so Morgan and Morgan, they're stepping in to fight to hold these food companies accountable.

With decades of experience fighting large corporations, they are ready to stand up for the families who deserve justice. If your child, under 21, has been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes or fatty liver disease, then visit www.4thepeople.com slash food or scan the QR code on screen to learn more. Because you and I have just spoken that you had a great relationship with him up until, of course, things changed. Oh, absolutely. He helped me out of an abusive relationship. He was the guy, you know, and I think that's why I tolerated a lot of, you know, our differences in our professional lives because he was so, I never worried ever. I had complete freedom with him to go on the beach, to work, to meet colleagues. You know, he wasn't controlling. He wasn't abusive in any way. And he was a lot of fun to be around. You always felt safe. He was someone that lit up a room when he walked in. You know, he was a simple guy. He was never flashy or overdressed or anything. But him and I could literally walk into a coffee shop and everyone's head would turn.

He was just that striking of a personality. And you are still in contact with him as he's in jail? Off and on, I've tried to have contact. They're a little bit difficult, I think, maybe protective of him because of his status in speaking. You know, I prefer to speak to him on lawyers. terms than personal, you know, to offer any kind of assistance or advice I could have and give him a little privacy in our, you know, consultation so he can be more open. It has not been that often because it is usually contact on a personal basis and they do record all those recordings. So we've really

limited our interaction. And I believe, I believe Johnny to be a victim. And I think, you know, victims should speak out. I'm just really concerned that it's been so many years and he hasn't really had an opportunity to speak out. Do you know the status of his case? It's been pending for literally seven years since 2018. And I find that very good. I, you know, at first it was COVID because they had the big COVID. You know, that was what he explained to me. I did call to follow up and what his attorneys are doing. His attorneys have not called me, consulted with me, talked to me in any way. I have followed other cases of his current attorney, and it does seem he kind of, you know, lets things kind of play out on their own.

There haven't been any filings. You know, I personally would have, you know, filed many motions to get him out by now as a cause of concern. I was going to try to just be support for his counsel at some point, but, you know, it's going way further than that. These are allegations, disturbing allegations, regarding the Trump-Darral incident. Do you have any idea what happened there? I saw someone in pain, and I saw someone coming from a violent background. So, you know, whatever transpired in that time, we were separated, it looks like he encountered a lot of violence. Now, I know he comes, you know, from different backgrounds and cultures, and initially that's what I presume.

that maybe he was triggered in some way that, you know, because I don't know if you remember Oscar Pistorius and the South African runner that shot his girlfriend, you know, I was thinking, you know, he had some episode I didn't know about, but with all the current information with the violence and, you know, P. Diddy's life. and if they were really associated with each other that way, it's possibly he picked up that violent rhetoric from him. Do you believe he had some sort of relationship with Sean Combs? And what do you think that relationship was? Oh, I 100% believe he had a very close relationship with Sean Combs. And I believe it was sexual, intimately sexual and violently sexual. Now, this is only based on him telling me,

I have no personal knowledge of that. absolutely no evidence of that besides his own representations and the representations of Cassie and, you know, other people who have made similar claims to what he did in the police investigation video. Is there anything that you can share about what he told you about it? Well, you know, I have to be careful here because, you know, we do have some marital privileges that I want to respect should his case ever go to court or he'd be pulled into a case about any of this.

There are also attorney-client privileges. He did consult with me. Now, Johnny did give me a lot of leeway to talk to media and press. He wants his story to be told, but he really wanted me to tell it seven years ago. And I withdrew, you know, withheld from telling his story because I was, I didn't want in any way interfere with his defense or his case because, as you know, a lot of things can be taken out of context. It can be misinterpreted. And I said, let's, you know, I like to respect the court system and let things play out. Obviously, he's not had a trial. So he still deserves for people to know why he lost it. What went wrong? You know, I do believe it was as a result of a relationship with P. Diddy that's evidenced, you know, by his contract that he signed. When he did provide me a copy of that contract and did give me permission to show it to the public seven years again and recently in conversations, he did give it to me almost in fear of his. life like like tanya i've talked to everyone you're the last person i can talk to you here take this

you know that was kind of the way i caught everything and it's like who what you know and i was familiar with p ditty you know when everyone was back in the 90s uh and you know i haven't you know he's become this mogul and kind of behind the scenes and i i hadn't really heard his name again until johnny brought it up but yeah johnny was an entertainer. He is a local celebrity. Like you can go around Miami and ask people who he is and they will know him. I wouldn't doubt it if some of the officers that day did know him and that's why he's still walking because he could have lost his life that day for sure. One of the things that I heard you say previously about this NDA and the reason we can say that this NDA may exist

is because you would notice the change in Johnny's behavior, right? you noticed a change in terms of this urgency to move forward with a divorce filing. Can you talk about that a little bit more and how you believe? Because people might say, well, you know, I see this page. It looks like it was signed by Sean Combs. I hear the allegations that he signed in NDA. But there was something that you articulated that I want you to explain to our audience about why you think this is proof that he signed in NDA, his behavior at the time.

Oh, absolutely. We were divorcing, and I really didn't want to divorce, Shawnee. I really had hope for him. I really, in my heart of hearts, felt he was going the wrong direction with getting more involved. But I thought, well, he just loves to entertain and who am I to stop that? Who am I to interfere? So I never argued with him or fought him on it, but I thought this will play out.

You know, we were in our 30s. We weren't young pups, you know, experimenting. And so I thought, well, he's going to phase out of this. You know, when we got together, he said he wanted to get out of this kind of doing parties and videos and different things. And so I believed him. And I said, well, who am I not to give him a chance, you know? And so I thought he was going to age out of that.

We'd go into something else in our relationship. It would mature. And he never stopped. And I'd never called him for the divorce. I didn't want a divorce. I was happy. You know, not happy with us being separated, but happy with him as a person. It was really to me just his career that kept us separated because I wasn't okay with it.

He knew I wasn't. And it was like, look, get over this career and we can just move on. He came to me and he kind of was very similar in that way. He didn't like my response. He didn't like that I didn't like his career. and so that's where we kind of just let things lay for a while. Then all of a sudden, out of the blue, he calls me. He's like, I need a divorce.

And I'm like, okay, you know, I mean, we were separated. I'm like, sure, we'll do it. And he's like, okay, I need you to do the paperwork. Well, I'm an attorney. Of course, I could do the paperwork. A divorce is quite simple. We don't have any assets together. We didn't have any children.

It's a very, you know, simple divorce. I prepared the paperwork. I was going to file it. All of a sudden, he hires a lawyer. And the lawyers call me, you need to sign this paperwork. You need to get this sign. And I was like, what are you talking about, Jane? You told me you had no money.

Why are you hiring a lawyer? When I'm a lawyer, I can do the paperwork. It's not a problem. Oh, you're taking too long. You're taking too. And I'm talking this is within a few days or weeks. And we've been married six years. I'm like, what are you talking about?

I'm taking too long. And you have to hire a lawyer. Where are you even getting money? I did ask him that. Where are you getting money to hire a lawyer? You know, that you can't just let me handle this. And then it was his lawyer that told him to file the financial affidavit that he was a personal trainer, which, you know, I know he did way more

than personal training. And that was it. And I was like, okay, fine, you know, and I remember when we went to the, to file the paperwork, we had a notary there. I had rushed, I literally rushed out the house to sign the paperwork. That's how much he was pressuring me. So was it just me thinking. And I was like, my God, okay, you know, let me do it. And I knew something was up, but he wanted a divorce. I'm going to give it. Maybe he met a new girl. She's given him a hard time, you know. So I went and forgot my ID. The notary public was like, oh, I'm not doing this. And he kind of looked at this. Like, you know, when people just say, why are you two shouldn't be getting divorced? It was one of those odd moments. But it was, you know, he could just tell we still cared for each other, I think. And he was

just like, well, you didn't bring your ID. I'm not going to do this. I said, that's fine. You know, I'll take the paperwork. Go get it notarized and bring it back. back. So I went and took it to local notary. And he wouldn't leave me alone about getting the paperwork back to him. And I was like, what, what is going on? It's like, whatever. Just I wouldn't got the paperwork done. I gave it back to him. And that's all I heard about it. And, you know, I was just fine. I think I even got upset and told his lawyer, you know, he's an. Like I was just upset with how he pressured, pressured me through the whole thing and, you know, acted like somehow I was going to. create a problem for the divorce like are you kidding me like we we've never had a problem in our marriage why are we going to have one in our divorce so i you know it was not a comfortable divorce but it was what it was so he went on his way i went on my way and and that was it and i didn't even know about the agreement till he randomly contacted me one night like and it was a few weeks before the shooting and it was just rambling and i i signed the steel for all the

money and he started just throwing lawyer names left and right half I've never heard of I knew I think Gloria Al Red was one of the names I'd heard because I admire her she was one of my inspirations to actually become to become a lawyer you know I studied her throughout my entire life in her cases they were very I broke up and he mentioned her and he mentioned a lot of other lawyer's names and I was just like wow okay maybe you know I was looking at it positively that something and good, but he was not himself. He was frantic. He's, you know, here you have to take this look. Here's his agreement. And he gave me a lawyer's number to contact that said he had the full agreement. I contacted that lawyer. He gave me the runaround, of course. He did meet with me.

He was very kind. He was very friendly with Johnny, but he refused to go into anything to do. And he actually, I try to work with him to co-counsel, to defend Johnny, and, you know, he kind of blocked it. So at that point, I kind of fear, well, he's a little more favorable to the guys paying for the contract than he is Johnny. And I let it go from there. Yeah, and I think it's interesting because, you know, Daily Mail reported that if you look at the divorce paperwork, as you mentioned, said he was a trainer making $2,000 a month, but then less than a month. or he apparently goes on the shopping spree, he buys five properties for over $765,000, possibly in all-cash deal, so you wonder, again, where did the money come from? Did it come from this NDA agreement?

Do you believe that Johnny is going to play a role in Sean Combs' criminal case? Do you believe that he has spoken with investigators in some capacity? Because if you look at this case where they're talking about sex workers being a part of these elaborate sexual episodes, freak-offs, Cassandra Ventura, again, we believe, could be a key witness in this case, possibly victim one, you would think Johnny would be a key witness in this case? What can you tell us? 100%. As soon as Cassie filed her case, Johnny called me, and he said, Tanya, I have information. I can help her case. And at that point, I think it took a day for them to settle. And I said, Johnny, I said she settled the case. There's nothing to talk about.

So, you know, as an investigator, or if Cassie needed support for her case, 100% Johnny would be there. And Johnny would testify and support her and I'm sure as personal, intimate information, both about her and P. Diddy. And he would gladly share that if he felt protected in a courtroom setting. But right now, I think he's afraid. I don't, I hope he will talk. but I think he's afraid. Whether they're going to call him, if he's in witness protection,

I don't think so. And the reason I think so is because I don't think they need him. I think there are so many victims that it's unfathomable for us. I apologize when I'm talking so much. For us to imagine how many victims there are. And I think Johnny is one of many. And I found it very interesting in the interview when Johnny was speaking. to Secret Service for Trump, and he's going off the rails on P. Diddy and, you know, a lot of

the information he had was public, but he had some intimate information as well. And the Secret Service agent just said, I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear about him. I don't want to hear about P. Diddy. Stop talking this nonsense. And, you know, I saw Johnny's entire demeanor change in that interview. And I thought that was a big mistake. I mean, it was before the lawsuits. It was before the arrest. It was before the indictment. That's why people are looking at this and now and saying, oh, my gosh, was there, you know, something to this? And just to be clear, so you're, you can't say definitively whether or not the government has subpoenaed him to come, you know, obviously he's in a very interesting precarious predicament, but to come and be a witness in the New York trial. We can't confirm that. No. And they, well, they have complete access to him. So literally, they don't have to give him. notice. And they know he's a cooperative witness. They'll know that from Cassie. You know, they'll know that from him, yeah. You had said something in the Daily Mail, and I didn't know, I couldn't

quite understand it, or at least this is how they perceived your answer to it, that it wasn't a coincidence that the timing of the Trump-Dorrell incident coincided with Cassie Ventura ending her relationship with Sean Combs. What did you mean by that? If that is that, is the correct statement. Yeah, that's absolutely the correct statement because it just fits Johnny's personality. If he was in the home with these girls and P. Diddy, girls meaning Kim Porter and Cassie Ventura, he 100% would have told them take the money and get out. Don't put up with this. Don't stay here. It would explain the hotel incident that I believe was in 2016 when we divorced and when he, you know, sign the NDA, you know, I think is the time when Cassie

tried to grab supposedly a bag of money and run out of the hotel and he beat her up. And that's what I think a lot of domestic violence victims don't understand that, well, in this case, it sounds like he was violent all the time, but some domestic violence cases are just very controlling and the violence only happens when they try to leave. And that's why you saw such aggression that day in the hotel. But I definitely could see

Johnny instigating some of that. So, Tanya, before I finish up here, one of the things, look, you have been so generous with your time and open about Johnny's situation, your relationship with him.

Unfortunately, whenever you put anything out into the media when you put something out online, they're of course going to be people who are skeptical and who are going to look into Johnny's life. They're going to look into your life. And I wanted to give you a quick opportunity to respond to something because I imagine anybody's credibility is always challenged. They look at people's lives. They look at what they've done. And one thing I just wanted to give you an opportunity to respond about that someone might bring up is my understanding is you had a past disciplinary action. And I wanted to get out You have a response to it.

I understand that this was back in 2018, the Florida Bar Association. I'm just going to read the release, and then I would love your response. The release from the bar said, Troutwein prepared a power of attorney to allow her to take over the financial and legal affairs of an elderly neighbor who was ill and suffering from dementia without the woman's consent. Troutine was dishonest in representation she made to a law enforcement officer and she also caused a notary to lose his license by knowingly giving him incorrect information about Florida law as it pertains to notary. Again, people might look at that, question your credibility. I want to give you an opportunity to respond to all that. Okay. Where did I start?

That was a big deal. That was the drama I was going through while Johnny was going through his personal drama. It all started with a fight with a condo board, which is kind of a big deal happening today. I ran for condo president. I won condo president. The guy, the bigger investor that own more units, I owned one. but I was friends with the other 100 owners. So I won the election by vote, but he owned 400 units and try to count those.

This is where that whole problem stems from. Esther, the elderly lady, was my neighbor and was best friends with my mom. She had actually helped me to pass the bar exam. She was a physical education teacher for Florida State University in her younger years. My mother had a very violent accident. and she helped rehabilitate my mom while I was studying for the Florida bar. She would read my notes. You know, I remember her voice and the tapes while I was studying.

We had a very close relationship. She would, my mother would cook for her. You know, she was a single woman with no children. She had nieces and nephews and a brother, her age. She had no children. My mom cooked for her every holiday. She spent things. She was an extended part of our family.

and my mom had passed and she consulted with me after mom passed and she said she was scared because she had she encouraged us to buy that condo she met with us before we purchased it she we almost like an interview we interviewed with her she liked my mom my mom liked her and it was a great relationship that you had as long as my mom was alive when she passed she came to me and said what do I do I'm very scared your mom's are there I told her don't worry I'm going to move into the condo, and anything you need, you come to me. It'll be just like mom was here. You don't worry.

And I will not leave this condo or put anyone in it that you're not satisfied with. And she was happy with that. And she watched every day. And she started, I went on vacation for a week. I came back. She had taken a fall. She got scared. So she had full Medicare.

She had a home health care worker. Everything was fine. but she had an issue with one or two of her home health care workers. And I said, don't worry. As you just call the agency. They'll send you a new one. If they don't or you have a problem, you come to me. I'll help you out.

We'll get through this. Don't worry. Well, time went on. And she had a health care whether she was happy with that kind of left. She left her number. I didn't get it. I should have. I regret that now.

And she somehow got a new health care worker that was extremely violent, abusive, and aggressive with her. And I witnessed it on several occasions. I reported it to adult family services. I reported it to every agency under the son. I communicated with her family. Her brother was concerned about her. He was in an elderly old folks nursing home, her brother. He had contacted me and said he wanted contact with his sister. The new home health care worker had blocked contact from him from her extended family and her friends including myself she was quite violent and no one wanted to be around her so uh her brother george said can you help my sister and i was like sure and then i said well let me get your son involved warren you know because i

realized their age and situation and warren was you know a home depot worker who's familiar with everything going on. He's very close with his father. So I was in communication with family. So I was literally hired by Esther herself, who had asked me to intervene, her brother and his son. So, of course, I intervene. I could have done a power of attorney, you know, but you can't explain everything to, you know, the person at the time. I could have done the power of attorney without being an attorney. I didn't need a law license to do that. People do that for their friends and neighbors and loved, loved family members all the time. So what I was doing really had nothing to do with my bar license, except the fact that I happened to know how to do it. Now, the police

were called, I called them because of the violent health care worker, because I didn't want a violent reaction when I came in with a family to have her removed and have a new health care worker put in place. So the president of the Florida Bar, she was what you would traditionally call a scapegoat profiteer. In other words, she was trying to take the land, the property, the condo. And she was concerned that if I took over, because we had it out with one another, and we were involved in several lawsuits, I kept her from foreclosing on 10 condominiums for other members there and taking ownership without paying for the condos. And she was concerned if I took over Esther's affairs that she would not have the ability

to take over that condo. Yeah, I met the president of the condo, not the Florida bar. I misspoke. Okay, that's okay. I had an issue with the president of the condominium, not the Florida bar. I'm mixing ideas here talking about Florida bar and condo. Yeah. But she was the complainant, not the client.

So there are a lot of problems with that. It was just a very emotional situation that I didn't think I should continue to challenge. But I do intend to clear my name of that eventually with some constitutional and other issues I'm exploring right now that aren't, this is not a standard case. And one thing I would like to say that I felt should in that bar case that should have been considered the, wasn't was the adversarial nature between me and the condo president. There's actually a clause in the rules regulating the Florida bar that they are not supposed to take cases and adversarial relationships. Otherwise, in every lawsuit, you're going to have the two parties following bar complaints against each other to try to win the suit by who gets the best bar complaint.

And traditionally, it's not done, but we have new people in play at the Florida bar. And so that's why you're seeing these hordes of bar complaints going forward because you have new people who aren't enforcing the old rules. Well, this is why I wanted to give you the platform to address it and make it, you know, basically according to it, it's a lot more complicated than people might initially assess it to be. Yeah, and how do you explain on it? No, no, I get it. And listen, I'm a lawyer. I get it too. I understand.

Listen, Tanya Troutwine, thank you so much for taking the time to talk about all this, really, really. really appreciate it. We'd love to open the dialogue, continue the dialogue as all of this progresses. Thank you so much. It was great getting a chance to meet you. Thank you. It's a pleasure. Okay. So before we go any further, I want to bring in criminal defense attorney Mauricio Padilla to talk more about this. Maricio, so good to have you on here. Thanks so much for taking the time. What do you make of this report about an NDA? Thanks for having me. I saw the report and I read up on it. Not only was there an NDA and he claims that he was paid $5 million to execute the NDA,

but his wife at the time was interviewed that they had broken up and they were going through a divorce, and she's given an explanation that during that time, that he all of a sudden started to buy a property, that he bought like $700,000 in property, and that was from a guy that she knew didn't have any money. So is he the most credible person?

No, because he shot up Trump's hotel and is currently in jail. but that there is some type of evidence to back up this claim, I think that there is. Well, when he talks about Cassie Ventura, and you think about her lawsuit where she claims she was sexually, psychologically, physically abused by Combs,

forced to perform in freakoffs. We all saw that tape published by CNN of Combs purportedly beating her up in a hotel hallway in 2016. He publicly apologized for it. With her potentially testifying at trial, you have to wonder, is everything he's saying all true

and you have to wonder whether or not he's going to play a role at this case. What do you think, Maricio? Well, I mean, I think there are two different questions. The first question is whether or not what he's saying is true regarding him being a

prostitute that was hired by Diddy. The second question is, because I believe at this point, I think most people believe that that is true. Because it's just, it's aligning with what the government is now telling us. It's not we're not believing a crazy person that shut up a hotel. We're believing what the government's version is because it aligns with his version of events.

I guess the real question is, is the federal government going to use somebody as damaged as him as a witness in their case? And I guess I guess the real question is the necessity. Do they believe that they need to bring somebody like him or can they prove their case without depending on what seems to be like a crazy person? Well, maybe, but then again, it's corroborating, potentially corroborating her account. And she could be the key witness in this case. We believe she might be victim one in this case. But in terms of the PDF, excuse me, in terms of the NDA, apologies, does that prevent him from testifying? No.

There's a litigation privilege where you can testify that you cannot get sued as far as I know. You cannot get sued because you signed an NDA because you were subpoenaed to testify. that a subpoena to testify in federal court should overrule any other kind of restriction contractual restriction that may exist like an NDA. So I think you're allowed to testify. And just to answer my own question about whether or not the government could use them, listen, I've seen them use

worse. I've seen them use murder in cases. So, you know, they're capable of doing it. Is it, is an NDA like that legal? So let's say, for example, it said whatever happened behind closed doors you can't talk about it is it legal is it common it's common and it's legal and usually the what you're looking at is did you get something for it so if i make you send an india and i don't give you any money for it then there's that's one of the elements of as far as i know of an nDA so if someone like him got five million dollars yeah that's that's legal you could you could have people sign

because they're getting something for for what they're agreeing to but if he breaks it he could be sued over it obviously or the and it was a wasn't a flat payment but a recurring payment I'm sure it could have been stopped let me ask you this you look at the you saw I don't know if you saw the actual screenshot of what the signing page look like but is there any way I mean there is a signature on it it's again over Sean Combs individually on on behalf of bad boy worldwide Sean John enterprises any way to verify that's his signature? Well, yeah, listen, there's multiple ways. First of all, there's going to be, if there's an NDA, there should be like a trail. How did he get the NDA? Did he have a lawyer at the time? Did he have a

lawyer? Are there emails? So that's the first, you know, in my experience, the first analysis of whether or not there's a trail out there regarding this NDA. Then second of all is the document in itself. Is it his signature? I've been involved in countless, you know, lawsuits civilly and And I've seen it in criminal cases as well, where they bring handwriting experts to decipher whether or not that's P. Diddy's signature or not. Then there's actual document analysis where they can do ink dating to see if the ink is as old as he says it is and whether or not the document aligns with the time frame that he says that the document was created. So there's multiple ways of scrutinizing the document, both, you know, forensically, electronically and actually. physical and the analysis of the handwriting. This is interesting. Could the NDA come into evidence at Sean Combs' criminal trial?

What do I mean? Could the NDA, the mere existence of the NDA, come into evidence? I don't know what was collected from Sean Combs' properties. Then again, if it's a legal document, you imagine might probably be with his lawyer. But let's say there was a copy that was found on his properties, either in L.A. or Miami. Federal investigators get it. can they introduce it into evidence? How would they introduce it into evidence for what purpose? Again, I'm just trying to speculate because it's a big story on the eve of opening statements next week.

I think that number one, they could because if they're going to use this gentleman, it bolsters his version of events, and it also aligns with what the government is saying that he would do. He would contract people like him, male prostitutes, and whether or not did he travel, across state lines, is this one of the people that Diddy actually contracted to commit the crimes that he's currently facing, charged against? So if that's the case, I think that the NDA is definitely something that the government can use. How would they bring it in? They could bring it in through this gentleman himself. They could ask them, like they can authenticate it through him, or they can try and bring other persons to authenticate it. I don't know if they could

really subpoena his lawyer. They can track down where this document was created what law office created it and also if you're going to pay somebody let's say $5 million for an NDA in my experience the person that you are paying has to have a lawyer you don't want you don't want to be throwing around that kind of money you know you're paying for a silence pretty much you don't want to do that when the when the person is not represented because that that can create a little loophole for the person to try and get out of it like I didn't know what I was signing. I didn't have a lawyer of the thing.

So, you know, I would envision that if he threw through that kind of money at him, that he would have made sure that he had an attorney. But what they can't do is just have a federal agent who picked it up during the search and said, yeah, this is what I picked it up. This is what it reads. This is what it says. And just read it out. That wouldn't be allowed, right?

Legally, no, but I've seen them try and do it. So just because, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen them try to authenticate things through agents and through agents that do cell phone extractions where they're overstepping the knowledge that they should be authenticating certain files and things that I've seen them try and do it. So just because they're legally not supposed to do it

doesn't mean that the government doesn't try. Just a wild, wild new development in this case. Maricio Padilla, I know you're going to be following the Diddy case with me. Thank you so much for coming on. It was good seeing you. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.

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